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December 22, 2025 • 45 mins

This week, Sophie Cunningham and West Wilson welcome Real Housewives of Salt Lake City icon Meredith Marks for an episode that goes everywhere—in the best way. Meredith breaks down the infamous airplane incident (and why the “footage” would’ve made things way less interesting), plus she shares her favorite seat on a flight and the wildly calming secret she falls asleep to: airplane cabin noise.

From there, it’s pure Bravo-meets-business. Meredith gets real about being more than a “housewife,” what fuels her entrepreneurial drive, and how a major life moment pushed her into building her luxury empire—jewelry, caviar, and everything in between. West also has one burning question: was he robbed of the Fashion Forward award? Meredith weighs in, and they swap style talk—from fashion inspirations to what it’s actually like pulling looks for big events.

And because it’s Meredith, we’re talking DJ life too: how Pride gigs turned into a full-blown career, what crowds hit the hardest, and what her DJ tour schedule looks like now. Plus: Brooks Marks tracksuits get their flowers, and Meredith dishes on the chaos of live appearances—including her and Jesse Solomons’ on-stage singing adventures.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I always see videos of people in prison with like
cell phones and stuff. I wonder if she's gotten to
like watch the show, do you think.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I think probably not. I would think that they're not
airing it there.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
But I don't know. I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Could you walk into a prison and it's just so could.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
You imagine them like can that she's in? Like that
would be so wild?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah, so wild, it would be crazy.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Hello, everybody, welcome back to Show Me Something podcast. Today
is a very very exciting day for our podcast. We
were doing something new, something we've never done before, and
we're starting it off with a freaking bang.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Guys, it is I want to say best friend first,
but all so. She's an entrepreneur, fashion jewelry powerhouse, a
DJ we love DJs in the Bravo world, and also
a WNBA lover.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
The wonderful, beautiful, incredible Meredith Marks, our first guest, cannot
be any better.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm so excited to be the first one.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
First things first, Happy belated you did you do? Did
you do anything?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I had a really chill day.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I had lunch with an old friend of mine and
Brooks and his boyfriend, and then I got a massage
and then I went to dinner with my family really chill.
It really amazing. Exactly what I needed.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Was that in New York.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
In New York, Yeah, Oh, in New York beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, the kids all lived there, so well, I know
we're there somewhat part time, but the kids are all there.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
Wait, do you think you're going to move up there?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean I've been there part time for many, many years.
I don't think I'll ever move there full time. I
love New York, but I also love coming and going.
You know, it's it's intense. It's so much fun, but like,
I don't know if I could handle it. Three inchred
and sixty five days a year.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
You are remind everyone born in Chicago, born in Chicago.
I grew up in Yeah. And then like, when did
you move to Salt Lake? And what was like the
whole process getting to Salt Lake?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I mean we were in Chicago and Seth he
had an opportunity as an executive at overstock dot Com,
which is based in Salt Lake, and Gocha called me
from there and was like, I think we should move here,
And I was like, well, I don't know. I've never
lived in I've never even lived in a suburb, nonetheless

(02:56):
a ski resort. So I was like, Okay, let's let's
see what it's like living in Park City. Let's try
it out. And it was very very different, especially raising kids,
you know, in Park City versus Chicago.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
And we had, you know, we'd moved around a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
The kids had gone to school in Toronto, and you know,
we've seth had commuted at times to Dallas and other
places as well, so you know, they had bounced around
a bit. But it was wild, like raising your kids
and a ski town is very very different.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I think for anyone who doesn't know, part of the
whole reason this trio is happening right now is because
Meredith and I sat next to each other at the
US Open and I was asking her life story, and
I think when you said you were from Chicago, I
was like, are you a I always asked you like
Cubs or White Sox, and You're like, not really into
like many big team sports, but I love the you know,

(03:52):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Really a sports girl in general, Like I'm not, but
I went last year to the championship game and it
was the coolest experience I'd ever had.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
In the sports world at all. And I mean I
do love.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Sports with horses that I do actually do a little
bit more. I do like horse racing or equestrian any
of that I do love. But you know, in terms
of like watching a basketball game with these women who
are insanely incredible and just like rock stars on the

(04:29):
basketball court, it was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
It was like it felt it just felt good. It
was like a.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Really feel good moment. So I am a huge supporter.
I can't say I watch every game or anything, because,
like I said, I don't watch a ton of sports,
but I you have a life.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
I get it, like love it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I'm like such a fan. You have no idea.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
Ah, well, well thank you.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
We need to get into the Fever games because they're
just like so different and so much more fun compared
to all these other games. But kind of with you,
like I when it comes to Housewives, I actually watched
two year seasons, which is like a lot for me
because of how busy I am. It's hard for me
to keep up. But I have gone.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Down a damn rabbit hole, and oh my gosh, do
I have so many questions for you? This is so awesome.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
So you I'll get into like the housewives and you
being a complete badass, but I have got to know,
and so many people are worrying, how.

Speaker 7 (05:20):
Did you get into this DJ?

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Because I think it's awesome, but you Brabo loves a
good DJ.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like it has been the most fun thing I have
ever done in my life. It's like having a party
every night for not really having to do all the
heavy lifting and.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
People are having fun. You know, that's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's so good just engaging with people, just literally having
a good time.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
But it came about really because I was asked to
DJ for Pride and so I thought.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
Okay, well this is wait where like then you know
I had At.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
First it was Pittsburgh and then West Hollywood and they
were like back to bath I think literally like the
next day. And I was very nervous in Pittsburgh, like
anyone who is at that show must have been like,
oh my gosh, she's terrified.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
But it was really cute. They rolled me out in
a bathtub and.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Then it was so funen so cute, And then West
Hollywood was huge. It was like I don't know, maybe
a couple thousand people. I'm not really sure. It looked
like a lot of people though, I can tell you
that much. And I had the best time, and it
was just that's how it all started, was with pride.
I was like, okay, sure, and then the phone started ringing,

(06:41):
and wow, wow.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I appreciate that because I obviously am friends with Kyle Cook,
who has gotten in a lot of hot water for
his late DJ career, and so you being able to
do it and almost have his back in a way,
just making sure people know that you can be a DJ.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Honey, I've got like ten years ahead. I've got like
ten more years on Kyle. As much as I hate.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
It, you know, I thought, well, you don't look like
it at all, so I think you're.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Doing just fine.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, No, I love it. I
think Kyle's great. We had a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
We did in an Amazon event together and that was
super super fun. And you know, I adore him and
I think he's a great DJ, so I fully support I.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Was the bottle girl, do you remember, that's right? I
brought this. Yeah, I brought the sign down that said
DJ Mayor.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
That was so fun.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
Oh my gosh, she wasn't so much fun.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Wasn't that a great night.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
What's what's been your favorite city or like venue that
you've DJ'ed at thus far.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I mean, like it depends, probably Times Square just because
that's like such an iconic place and like any thing
you do in.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Times Square is incredible.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
But it was less engaged because you know, you are
in the middle of Times Square. People like walking in
and walking out, you know. And but like any venue
or West Hollywood, you definitely have people that are like
they are there, They're staying, no one's moving around, and
it's great. But Times Square, for sure, it's just it's
just not something I ever thought would happen in my life.

(08:25):
Like if you had told me five years ago you're
going to teach in Times Square, I'd be like, you're crazy.
I mean, if you had told me twenty years ago
I'd live in Utah, I'd say you're crazy. So, you know,
my life has been a very bizarre roller coaster that
I never anticipated.

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Speaker 5 (09:11):
I say we get into it, because you're You're an og,
You're clearly a fan favorite. You're witty, You stay calm
situations where I would probably knock someone's head off.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
I do not know how you do it.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
And WeSC Cann attest to that, like, I'm just feisty,
but I could tell you have some fire to you too.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
I want to get into Ah, this is so fun.
I might even allowed to ask this.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Jinshall just got out of prison, and I think there's
so much buzz about it. People are wondering, has like
anyone talked to her? Have you personally talked her? Do
you think she'll be back for next season?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Like?

Speaker 7 (09:42):
What is the vibe around?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
So?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I have not spoken to her since she got out.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
She did call me once from prison about a year
and a half ago or so, and it was a
ten minute recorded call, so it was very basic, you know,
nothing all that in trusting, just sort of how are
you and you know whatever. But no, I've not heard
from her. I'm guessing I will at some point in time.

(10:10):
I'm sure she wants to get her affairs in order.
It's been a moment, it's been a few years, so
I'm sure at some point I will hear from her.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I don't know what will happen with her coming back
or not.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
You know, that's way out of my league, you know,
it's it's something I don't know. Andy seems to say no,
so my guess is probably not.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Then I was gonna say someone someone asked Andy and
he like it sounded like he kind.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Of asked it pretty quick. But yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
But like people love a comeback and people I think
righting their wrongs.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
And opinion, And I don't know if it's true or not,
but my opinion would be that he would probably be
much more receptive if she had paid her restitution and
he like knew that there was a change, you know,
that she had been reformed and changed and grew, and
there is something like a positive ending to the story.

(11:09):
I think my guess is he would be much more
open to it. But you know, I'm not in his brain.
That's just my opinion.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Do you guys like mis R do you like want
her to come back? Or do you like the vibe
of the show now?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know, that's something I can't really answer because I
don't know what the vibe would be like now if
she were here. Things have changed so much, even within
just you know, those of us who have been there
from the beginning, who were there with her, our dynamics
have shifted so many times by so much. Everyone has
grown a lot, and I'm sure she has too. You know,
it's been six years, and so I don't know what

(11:42):
the dynamic would be.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Damn, I'm sure that so much has changed, like even
just like with you in everything you're doing outside of
the show, Like I'm sure like she would be shocked
to even see like where your career has taken off.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Like, I just think it'd be weird in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, who's gonna tell Jin in the next few days
that Meredith is DJ She's in DJing in Boston today.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I have a feeling she knows all that already.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think She's probably been kept surprized and on information
from her family and her manager and other people around her.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
So I think I think she has a clue as
to what's been going on.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I always see videos of people in prison with like
cell phones and stuff. I wonder if she's gotten to
like watch the show, do you think?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think probably not. I would think that they're not
airing it there.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
But I don't know. I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Could you walk into a prison and it's just so could.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
You imagine them like that she's in Like that would
be so wild?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, so wild?

Speaker 6 (12:46):
It would be crazy. Did you guys? You guys film
their union already? That's out of the Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Do you like personally? I couldn't hate anything more. Do
you enjoy reunion or do you like count down the mess?

Speaker 6 (13:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think it really depends on the year and what's
gone on this year. It was very catharative for me.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I kind of really got to say the large majority
of what I wanted to say. I missed a few things,
for sure, we always do. But I really felt like
I got things off my chest.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
And you know, whether the air or not is not
my decision, and I'm okay with that, Like it's fine
for me.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It was more I just had to kind of say
my piece and and know that the ladies heard it
and you know, everyone else and.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
If it airs great, if it doesn't, then say lovey.
You know.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
You know, I think that it's such great advice because
I think everyone knows that, you know, your kids are
kind of getting into this spotlight, and I think that
they can rely on you a lot for kind of
the things to do maybe to stay away from. But
does like what advice do you give them? Because I mean,
this life can be brutal, but it can also be
awesome at the same time.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean, I always say it's like a love hate relationship,
and I have a lot more love than hate, and
if it ever flips to the opposite, I won't do
it anymore. But you know, the positives are off the charts,
the negatives can be rough, and my main thing for them,
and I think for really for anyone on any kind

(14:19):
of reality TV is just to really be sure to
be true to yourself. There's a lot of people around you,
You're talking to a lot of people, you have a
lot of people you know.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Saying, oh you should do this. You should do that.
Da da da da dad.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You should do what you want to do and what
resonates as authentic and true to yourself. Because anything that
you do because somebody told you to do it, or
because you think it's going to make good TV, or
because somebody else on another show did it and the
audience loved them or whatever is.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Not going to work and you're going to regret it.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
Did you have a cause?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
When they win next Gene wanted like full time cast
Brooks and like or were you like do it? It's
so good for me, like when you did the same experience,
or like you're but at the end of the day,
you're still his mom. And I'm curious if any of
the bad experiences you've had kind of like made you.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I mean, he kind of helped put it together.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
So it wasn't like he came in all of a sudden,
like I have a surprise for you.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
You know, they reached out. He had been very.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Much an integral part of putting the show together, and
so no, it was kind of brewing for a long time,
a very long time. They took a really long time
to you know, figure out the right mix and get
everyone on board. And the whole thing. And I think
they did a phenomenal job. I think the cast is

(15:43):
absolutely amazing, and both on screen and off, you know,
I think they're really truly great people, and I'm very
proud of all of them.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I feel like the Mama Bear.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I was gonna say that at the Bravo Awards or whatever,
I presented the Rookie of the Year award and it
was to their whole cast.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Oh I know that, Yeah the year so they crushed. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Well, I think I think that was kind of my
my thing. It's really cool to like hear that those
people like spending time off the camera together and like
they're good people off camera.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
Do you guys feel like that's how you guys are
out in Salt Lake?

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Like do you have even the time to spend time
to go to dinner, get coffee, hang out or like
is it really just like in season you're doing this
and then out of season your busiest, like you don't
have time.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
It arries year to year, you know, all of us
have different things going on at different times, and like
this year has been insanely busy for me, and last
year it was like that for Lisa. You know, like
she was running around like a crazy person. And that's
you know what I have this year, And so everyone
kinds of ebbs and flows. And because I, you know,

(16:51):
really only live in Park City about five months out
of the year, I'm.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Gone a lot.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Don't you kind of love that?

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Like, I like because I'm telling you, like for the
w I love my time with them and the majority
of the time, I could hang out them year round.
But there are people in our league the I'm like,
I need a break from you, and I don't want
to see until next time, Like, don't text, don't That's why.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I travel as much as I do, you know, Like
I mean, I don't want.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't need to spend that much time with anybody
except my my family, my husband and kids. I mean,
my mom, you know, my sister. Like my family I
could do with all the time. But even they can
get on my nurse sometimes. I love them dearly.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
But that's why you're teaching, Yeah, get another I will say.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
With reality TV and like the cast you have, it
does feel like and I think my show is a
show where like I think the reason people like it
is because they can tell that we all do like,
really really really like each other. But even in like
this environment where like every aspect of your friendships and
who you're with doing what it's like so heavy and

(17:55):
talked about and like so much like such a big
deal at all times, Like when you're not filming, it
is refreshing to like kind of take a second to yourself.
And like when you're with each other, it's so intense
during those filming months that like when it's over, taking
a step back is like it's.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Not like offensive to anyone.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Like everyone takes their time to kind of like figure
themselves out, and then like you know, you film again
and bring it back.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I think that's I mean, I think taking a moment
to yourself is normal, you know. I think that it's
healthy normal, you know, Like I mean these last like
when we ended in Greece, I've stayed and I didn't
go home for about a month.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, I took a month in year of avd.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Oh my God came and.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Met me like a day or two later.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
We had a wedding a few weeks later in the
English countryside anyway, So I mean he was planning on
going maybe a week later, but I called him.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm like, this was Rob, Come now.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Oh, good for you, Osma said you're better than me.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'd be like, give me a week and a half
to myself, then come and hang out with me.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
But I feel you all on.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
That as someone who is very proud of where they're from,
and I feel like I'm an obnoxious tour guide when
people visit Missouri or Montana. I related to Angie k
being like so over the top of everything Greece because
she's proud and just wants everyone to love Greece or whatever.
I found that so endearing cute because you know, people

(19:29):
don't care as much as you, but you still give
it a shot. And I just found her Greek pride
to be something I kind of like saw i myself.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
There's something coming up where, you know, we learn a
lot more about her family, and I don't think it
aired yet, right, Yeah, no, it's an area, but it's
coming and we learn a lot more about her family,
and for me, that was really very helpful to get
insight into her as a person, you know, and it
was see my favorite part of the trip because you know,

(20:02):
I learned more about Greece, it was a beautiful setting
everything else, and but I also really had got a
much better understanding of her and her family and where
they came from.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
And I just thought it was really cool.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yeah, I love Pat Sophie.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
At Bravocon, everyone just kind of mingles and it's like
all over the place. I have to say on the
record that the Salt Lake City women are like are
the queen bees. Everywhere you want, everyone wants to take
pictures every like center table at the awards ceremonies, like
always stars of the show. And Meredith, I don't think
I've said this to you yet, but like your cat

(20:41):
like people like are so infatuated with you guys, and
every single one of you are like so uniquely themselves
and like powerful, and I just am as someone who
like doesn't watch every Housewives show, you guys are like
such a dynamite cast.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
And I think everyone knows that, but it was so
crazy over.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Sitting She's sitting They're like, we know, like you're not
telling there's anything we don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
You know, we never know what it's going to like
work or not work. You know, we just do our
thing and cross our fingers and hope for the best.

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Like I would, She's she's about to order your jewelry
for everyone for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Love.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Oh I don't say that, but I was gonna say,
I absolutely love, love, love love your jewelry.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
I want to hear about your caviar. I want to
hear about your bath bombs.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Like, tell us about this stuff, because I, like I said,
I'm like new to all this, but so many people
are like, oh my god, ask about her jewelry.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
How that all started? I'm like, hell, yeah, let's hear it.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
You I started my jewelry company. What are we going
on now?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think we're on. We're almost in our twentieth year,
but not quite. I think it's eighteen. I have to
double check. Now, yeah, two thousand and eight, so twenty
twenty eight will be twenty years. We're almost there. And
it was kind of crazy because you know, I had
been in real estate development and I owned kind of

(23:31):
like an alternative health club, like we specialized in pilates
and gyratonics and yoga and stuff.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Like that and pas mariti os. I started pilates and
hot yoga this week.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
And it is taking my right because you have like
muscles you never knew you have.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
Get this right, Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Sorry not to cut you off.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
That is like it is so so good, Like I'm
starting to become a like addicted of so now it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And so I had had this gym and.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
One morning at nine am, I dropped my oldest son, Reid,
who you guys don't really get to see very often,
off at school and went to some meeting in the
school after and got very aggressively mugged at nine am
and broad daylight on a very chase safe street in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Walking home, I was like dragged across the street. It
was bad and.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
What what? Why does no one know this?

Speaker 6 (24:29):
Do people know?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I don't talk about it all that often, you know,
I don't know. It was really it was. It was insane.
The guy was dragging me across the street by my
hem bay because I wouldn't let go, not because I
meant to not let go it was like the you know,
the fear you brace yourself and you're not thinking. Yeah,
and so he's dragging my whole body. But a taxi
driver stopped and started chasing him. He went to prison

(24:53):
for three years for aggravated battery.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Oh so we got him.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
We found u.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Him and Jim were talking.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Now different prisons. He was in state. He was in state.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
But oh, but I should not be saying this.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
I don't even know much.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
She was Delane Maxwell and Elizabeth Holmes, though they served
in the same prison as her, which is wild like
a story to her for sure. I'm very curious to
hear about that. But in any case, so I was.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I decided in.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
That moment that I was I didn't want to be
in real estate, that I was dragging me like away
from my kids too much, and I sold everything in
as his condition, like just dumped it all. And then
the real estate market crashed like a year later. You know,
it was like the whole mortgage backed security to baffle
the whole.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
It was a disaster. So I would have been in
a lot of financial trouble and I got saved by
getting muggs somehow, I don't now. And that was at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I said to Seth, I don't know what I really
want to do now, and I was trying to figure
it out, and he said, out why I'm going on
this business trip to India and Hong Kong. I said,
you know, a lot of the really fabulous gemstones come
out of India, and Hong Kong's a major trading center
for it as well. I think I'm going to tag
along and start a jewelry collection. And my mother called

(26:28):
me screaming.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
She's like, we are in the worst recession of my
lifetime and you're starting a luxnary business. And I said, yeah,
I am, and I did.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
And she wouldn't be your mom. She wouldn't be your
mom if she didn't.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
No, I appreciate it. You need that. We all need that.
We all need people to tell us not to do
it so that you fight harder for it, you know.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
And I did.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
And that was it.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I basically went I got a lot of manufacturing contacts,
a lot of contacts for loose stones.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I studied at the Gemalogical is sort of America to
learn a little bit, and I'll just stove in head first.
And that was it.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
And I loved it ever since jewelry is it's my passion,
you know, and from there when I got on the show,
I really wanted to figure out something consumable that also
sits in the luxury space, and caviar was another passion. Yeah,
so we kind of ran there.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
And you know, Caviars having a Caviars having a moment
right now.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
One I would say, it's insane, it's ever everywhere, but
it's great.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm thrilled.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Wait, random question, do you not like take a fence?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
But do you like you guys are called had the
Housewives or Housewives, Whole Lake whatever, but everyone is I mean,
at least at least you are so much more than
a housewife. It's almost like such an outdated name, like
they're never going to change the name of the show.
But like you guys are all entrepreneurs or and business
owners and like you were in real estate, Like does
that name well, like when people say merediths a housewife,

(28:02):
do you take offense to that anyway?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Take a fence to it?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
But I don't want to be pigeonholed into that being
the whole essence of my being. Like you're saying, I
like things to be shown in a broader picture. And
I really think that's true of the large majority of
the women on my show. Maybe not on all of
the shows, but at least on mine. I think we
all kind of, you know, feel that way. And that's why,
like people were like, oh, she removed R H O

(28:26):
SLC out of her bio.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
She's not coming back. It wasn't there. The only change
I made this season was I added water bender. So
because I just think everyone knows.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Everybody knows everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Everybody knows I'm on Housewives, I don't need to screen
that out from the raptors.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's the other stuff that I need to make sure
people know.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Everybody knows I'm on it, Like that's it's already a
defining thing. So I want to make sure I'm highlighting
other aspects of my life, like being a water vender.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
It's very important.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Did you always know you had that like entrepreneur spirit
in you even when you were doing real estate or
did you kind of learn to appreciate that process, like
when you started like getting in debt even real estate.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I mean I was in development. I mean that's pretty entrepreneurially.
I was buying homes, renovating them, selling and building them
new on you know, empty lots of stuff like that.
So I've always had a drive for different entrepreneurial things.
I kind of like can't help myself. I just like
to keep creating and building and growing. And it's it's

(29:37):
almost like a disease, you know, And that's and then
you know it's.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
No, I think it's inspiring.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
No, I really do, because I I will say, like
when the whole Bravo like you guys, and this is
a good thing. You guys have a good cult. You
guys have a great following. Like do not get me wrong.
But when I was like going down my rabbit hole,
you know, I learned that there is so much about
you and there's so much there's so much about your
cast members, and I was like getting inspired. I'm like, damn,

(30:05):
like these women like yeah, I know they film, but
they have so much more like stuff to them that
people should really start don't just judge them off a
little clip here and there, like go and see what
these women are about.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
And so like I'm not kidding us, Like I think
I love her. I was like, I don't know her,
but I think I like love her.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Thank you it right back at you, you know, I
mean I have to say, look my cast, love her
hate them.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know, some I love a lot more than others.
But they they really do all for the most part,
not all.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Most Lee have very and you know they they're very
interesting outside of the show and have stuff going on
and are trying to you know, do very interesting things.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
And I think it's cool. You know, I respect it.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
Wait does does that ever annoy you guys?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Though?

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Does that ever annoy you that?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Like you can't the show doesn't highlight everything you guys
are about and like what you're doing. It sometimes gets
kind of like the bad or like the sassy caddy
type stuff rather than like all the great things you do.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
And there are, of course, there are times in a
very season to season, you know, like this year, all
we're seeing about me is not very positive, you know,
like we didn't see anything with me and Seth and it.
You know, it's like the first year that he's actually
been fully remote in decades where he's with me twenty
four seven and what I've liked to showcase that, yes,

(31:30):
of course, but for whatever reason, it didn't, you know, work,
And that's the nature of reality TV. Yeah, you're seeing
snippets of our lives and you're not going to see
the whole story or the whole picture.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Because quite frankly, that's what makes it entertaining, is you
know if by the way, I know everyone wants this
footage from the plane, but if we actually had it,
the story would be a lot less interesting. Let's be real.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Ah, well I want it.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Can you say it to me?

Speaker 7 (31:58):
Because I've been dying you know what actually happened?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, let me say this. I promise you. If I
was screaming, dumping wine and pulling hair, there would have
been video footage, and there I would have been an
unruly passenger and face some pretty serious consequences. I'm not
saying nothing happened.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Something to do with what they're saying happened is not
what happened.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
When people are crazy on planes, everyone has their phone out.
You don't ever see like.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Not go anywhere. When people are weird on planes, everyone.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Absolutely everyone films, So like, did you ever finish the movie?

Speaker 7 (32:37):
Did you ever go back and see?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Like?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Hell you the movie like before?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
And I just fell asleep in it. And honestly, for me, movies,
I don't get that engrossed in them. You know, I
kind of am halfway watching. I'm halfway scrolling on my phone,
answering emails, answering text messages.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's for me on the plane. The movies are like something.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
To have in my ear to just distract from whatever
else is going on on the plane.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Noise.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah, some people can't go to sleep without their TV on.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
That is true. I'm not one of them. But you
know what I do actually like on my phone when
I'm trying to sleep, is the airplane noise. I play
that on my phone. Just kind of bizarre, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Is that just like is that just like brown noise?
Or is it its own? Is that it's calm genre of.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Common airplane I don't know that I like it. I actually, contrary.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
To what everyone thinks, I'm I am not a nervous traveler.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I'm actually an excellent traveler.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I love flying. It's my peaceful time. It's my time
to myself. Maybe not particularly on that flight as much,
but generally speaking, it is a very.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Like zen time for me.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I love it, you know, I kind of like get
worked one and I love it.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I can't see this is airplane cabin White Noise is
a fairplaylist, and all these songs are just airplane cabin
white and no One.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Are you as particular when you fly as Lisa.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
In terms of why in terms of not flying in
seventeen c?

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Yeah, just needing to be in.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Doesn't she have one seat that she like has to
be on for every She does have.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
A seat preference, for sure. She actually likes an aisle.
I like a window, so that works well. I like,
my favorite seat is the bulkhead window, you know, front
row window, because there's enough room where you can easily
climb out if someone's sleeping and there's you know, but
no one's.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Bothering me to get out, So I like it. That's
my favorite seat.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
I think it would be fun to just like travel
with everyone, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well try and change your mind.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
She's like, don't do it. Oh yes, dude, that is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
The trips can be so amazing and they can also
be so rubbed, you.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Know, I'm sure because you can't go anywhere.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
Well yeah, how long do they normally last? Is it
just like a weekend? Is it a couple of dress was.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Four days and that's four nights, so really five days,
that's long, Like, that's long. You know, that's the longest
trip I think we've ever been on. So but like
usually like we have well this year we had the
RV trip, which was early on, you know, So usually
what you'll do is you'll have like one or two

(35:36):
little short trips that are a night or maybe two nights,
and then you'll have a bigger trip that's three or
four all right.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Quick time out.

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I'm gonna ask this, Miss Maria Bronwyn won the Fashion
Forward Bravo Award.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
She beat me.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Would you be down to lobby that I was robbed
of the Fashion Forward Award?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Approbby for you?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Absolutely absolutely amazing.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Okay, That's all I needed. She does.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
She does have absolutely nutty outfits and they all are
pretty sick. I actually got to meet her the like
second to last night, and she's like she's on at
all times.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
She was like fun, just we all were.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
It was everyone was cozy in a bar wearing hoodies
after four days of makeup, and I got to know
her a little bit.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
You guys have like do the housewives all have like
a stylus and whatnot?

Speaker 7 (38:00):
Or do you guys just do your own bath.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I think everybody works with someone from time to time,
and I think it varies how you know. I think
it just depends. You know, It's a lot of clothing,
both like on the show and in real life. You know.
I mean, I can't speak for everyone else, but I
go to a ton of events, you know, and that

(38:22):
right there is a ton of stuff. Sometimes I'll style myself.
Sometimes I have a handful of stylist I'll hire. Sometimes
I have my kids help me. It just totally depends
on what it is and what I need and how
much time I have on my hands. I love to
do it when I have the time, but sometimes you
just literally have no time.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Right, So you do love that, like that's a I
love fashion, I love clothes, I love accessories.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I obviously love jewelry. You know, it's it's a lot
of fun for me. But there it can get overwhelming
at times. It can be just way too much.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
I just sti't like the going out and shopping peace,
Like I don't have time. I love it, but I
don't have time to like go do it.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I mean I think sometimes people think or like want
to discredit you for if you use a stylist, given
that it's like not a look you put together. But
for most people, I think it's the convenience of not
having to like actually think about it and put the
time together to create this stuff. Wouldn't you say, Meredith
that like half of the point of Bravocon is like

(39:29):
what people are wearing.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I think it's just like, that's like the whole I
think everyone wants to see.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
What you're wearing, how you look, what you look like
in real life?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
You know? Do you look as good as you look
on TV? Do you look worse? Do you look better?
You know? And then they all express a lot of love,
which is amazing.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
I will say, I use a stylust for like half
of my tunnel fits, and I have no shame in that,
Like I think that the people who go to school
and know that type of stuff for that, why how
would I not use them? And I also don't have
your guys' talent though, Like I feel like you guys
are all very like artsy and just like are very
in touch with that side of like what looks good
on you? And I just don't have the time for it.

(40:12):
So I'm like, do you guys go pick out my clothes.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
I'll wear it.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Here's your check, see you later.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Do you do.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
An outfit like do you have an advat plane for
every tunnel walk like?

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Or does it just sometimes?

Speaker 7 (40:24):
I think the majority of my tunnel fits I do.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
But you can one hundred percent tell when I did
not use them because I will be wearing.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Shirt yeah, literally, we got to get Brooks, get you Brooks. Yeah,
that can actually be.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
So he just dropped his new collection. I bought like everything.
It's fabulous, so yes, we need to do that. Wait,
is who is Lone Wolf Fresh Wall.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
It's It's It's it's.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Jack and Henry Barlow's Haircare, Men's Grimming.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Yeah okay, I knew someone.

Speaker 7 (41:04):
Yeah, wait, tell me more about the clothing line. Is
it like? Is it?

Speaker 3 (41:10):
So?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
He launched it with his original track suit, which you
know had like the Brooks marks going down the side.
But now he has a new collection that's in this
fabric that he he I think has a some kind
of ip on called Terry Light and it's like this
lightweight terry that has given it and it's very like

(41:33):
lucks and comfy and gorgeous. And so he did hoodies,
zip hops, pants, shorts and then these matching tots that
are really cute too, in four different color waves, and
it's it's fab We got to get you guys some
that's really.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
Fab I'm looking it up right now as you speak.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
Hell yeah, oh yeah, wait, these are super cool.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
It's really really cool.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I love it and it's like just chic and comfortable,
and I don't know I was west when you were like, oh,
we were all in our hoodies at night, like a
couple of nights before the umbrella. I was like, why
did I have a night like that? I was dressed
all day and all night every day.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Well, it's crazy that sometimes people were cut or like
you just by how thinks schedule, you could be done
it like two thirty pm, and some people were doing
stuff till midnight.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
And if you you know, if all of.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Your breaks came like in the middle, then you were
there for you know, one hundred hours a day. I
got I was done it like one the last day,
and I went showered and put on sweatpants and like
ordered I think I ordered pizza and then just went downstairs.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
But some people, some people didn't get done.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I watched What Happens Live last night, so I definitely
was going to the tail end. Oh yeah, you said,
oh gosh, I have to ask with Jess's wonderful. The
singing car for me was not my forte. When I
saw I was supposed to sing on that, I kind
of went a little like I got a little panicked,

(43:09):
and then I just said forget it.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I'm just doing it and I'll just be bad and
it doesn't matter that it's bad. People can laugh at
me and I'll laugh right along with them.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
And it was it was fine.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
So they booked you to sing, and I.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Just it was it was in an email that had
a lot of information and I just happened to miss
that little snippet until Jesse mentioned it to me like
the day before, and I was like, oh gosh, no,
they didn't lie to me.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
It was my own Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
That was hilarious.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
Wait, well it was fun.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
Yeah. Wait, I want to know, because well, we'll let
you go here in a second.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
But where, like, are you already booked for like DJing
for like the next couple of months, because I feel
like Meanwis should go to it.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Oh my gosh, yes, absolutely, let me know when we
actually have my tour schedule. So I have tonight and
Tomorrow night out of Boston, and then I have Chicago
for Saturday and Sunday, Porto Vireta for New Year's even
New Year's Day, and then I start up again in
mid January and my schedule is on my Instagram and

(44:21):
you guys can tell me whatever show you want to
go to. If you're if we're sold out, we will
get you in no matter what. Just let me know
what you want to go to. Yeah, it will be
so fun.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I would love it.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Wow, you guys to come out on stage for like
a shot or something.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
Says uh, that's incredible.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yes, yes, I would love it. That would be amazing.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
We have to let you go. But this was such
a fun special treat and I'm honored that.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Oh my gosh, this is so fun.

Speaker 7 (44:56):
Meredith.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
You are you guys.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
I love you like you're after You guys.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Are fabulous and I can't wait to come see a
game and we I'll see you hopefully at another round
of the US Open and some other fabulous parties.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I love it. Thank you, Thank you guys, thank you.
Sending you lots of love, of course,
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