Joe and Jada - 112 & Total on joint tour, Biggie & Bad Boy stories, Diddy fallout & modern R&B

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by legendary R&B groups 112 and Total, who have teamed up for a joint tour to celebrate 30 years of 112. Joe and Jada ask about their heyday coming up in the '90s on Bad Boy Records, their experiences working alongside The Notorious B.I.G., what the fallout has been like for them after the allegations, lawsuit, and conviction of Sean "Diddy" Combs, and how they were influenced by other R&B and soul icons like New Edition, Mary J. Blige, Boyz II Men, Whitney Houston, and more. They also discuss Jada being with Biggie Smalls when he first heard Tupac's "Hit 'Em Up" diss record, how social media has affected modern relationships, and how hip hop and R&B treats its older legends compared to genres like rock music.

5:00 - Working with Biggie

9:30 - Putting together 30th anniversary joint tour

17:00 - Paying taxes humbled Joe BAD

19:00 - Playing back-to-back shows & tour life now vs. back then

33:00 - Social media & modern relationships

38:30 - Raising daughters after experiences in music industry

42:00 - How rap & R&B treat their older legends

53:30 - Fallout after Diddy controversies

1:03:00 - Influences & all-time R&B groups

1:06:30 - How Slim became the frontman of 112

1:11:00 - Joe wishes he was an R&B singer

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
So what I'm trying to tell y'all is this, whether
y'all don't know it, anytime your music come on.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
This legendary every time, every time, every time, every time
ya come on, and they can't take that from you.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
What up, Y'all's Joe Crack the biggest in the game.
What's up, Y'all's your boy Jady kiss?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know what it is that Joe and Jaden's show,
every show legendary, every show iconic, and we never let
you dan Today's guests plural two dynamic groups. When you
think of synergy, when you think of chemistry, when you
think of camaraderie, when you think of hit makers, when

(01:00):
you think of arena shakers, when you think of good
individuals that been able to overcome diversity, deal with the up,
still with the downs, get rich, get richer, go through
hard times to get it again, get even richer than Richard.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Thirty plus years in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Good skin, I mean, because that's important, ladies and gentlemen,
Let's make some noise for Mike slam keish and came on.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
One twelve in total. Nobody got fatter intros than me.
That's why no I was. That was the best flock.
You got me. That's what I do. That's weird, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Far my family, thirty plus years, y'are going on toy
y'all moving around, You're looking beautiful, Telepece.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
People to expect.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Expect that energy, like he said, that synergy, that iconic
representation of our hits.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Uh to tours crazy and listen.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
So happy for our brothers and just blessed to be
a part of this movement for them giving them their flowers.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Thirty years of great music.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
This is their first headline short. We're gonna get them
their flowers, y'all, And just so honored that our brothers
would tap us on the shoulders and say, y'all gotta
take this journey with us. And like you just said, Jada,
to be able to come back and do this again
and again thirty years and people still supporting our music
and just showing up for us, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
So we got those classic records, got to explain, Yeah,
they know what it is. Yeah, So that's what yeah
got here.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's this feels no way to explain this ship. It's like, Yo,
that shit, come on on this it is what it is.
Then you had the b I g all over your
music the greatest ever. At the time, you just say,
all right, we got Biggie. Now, you know you got
some historic ship on your hands, you know what I
mean whenever that music come. What was it like working

(03:17):
with Biggie in that.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Day, man?

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well, you know for y'all man, Yeah, working with Biggie
that was our biggest It was like our big brother.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
Man.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
He would give you the shore off his back.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
You know.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
When one twelve we moved to New York City, you know,
Big shout out to Junior Mafia and Faith Evans Man,
you know what I'm saying, Like time he got there,
they embraced us as family. Even when Big was doing
his promo for Ready Ready to Die, Man, he would bring.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Us with them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
Faith, We was in one ride, Big was in the other,
and we will following around and we learned a lot
of jewels, man, so.

Speaker 8 (03:52):
A lot with them. I got different stories for it, like.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
The stories man, because it's usually me I'm ever meeting.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Big was at their video shoot in Central Park. It
was one degree, the coldest.

Speaker 8 (04:10):
Day of I ever experienced.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
You're trying to stay warm, did you indeed bringing us
we mean Big Puff.

Speaker 8 (04:19):
They shooting the video. They got that white shirt on.

Speaker 7 (04:22):
Freezing though, So I'm like, yo, this is like the
greatest time in the worst of my life. At the
same time, well, that's our first time meeting Big was
at their video shooting Central Park. Then another one of
their videos was it Kissing You remixed.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
In Long Island, Big Bad Boy Picnic Fashachi silk shirts
and all sweat. That's also in the first time Big.

Speaker 8 (04:52):
Herd hit them up. Somebody delicted them the thing.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
You know what I'm saying, I heard I listened to
when he listened to it, it wasn't even mad.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
He was just really mad about whatever he said about
Season Kim. But it wasn't. He would have thought he
had smoke coming out of his I ain't like that,
you said.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know what's crazy is I was at Harlem right
this biggie's on top of the world. He's performing at
the State Building. He got that blue polo shirt on.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
Sneaker.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
So I'm I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Out there right in the crowd and the dude walked
by me in Harlem with a boombox.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Just big first off, fuck your bitchit the kick you came.
You kicked.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I was like, I'm looking at Biggie Small's on stage
the first time I heard that record, and the dude
walked by with the boombox, and what was bugging me
out because it was the beef was real territory. It
was like even you from New York or you from
LA and this is a guy from Harlem. He just
I felt like God did that to me. He just

(05:57):
walked by, and I knew this ship wasn't going right.
The energy wasn't right.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
I said, damn, they impound him out legend.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
No, he was across the street. He was just walking.
I just happened to be across the street. He was
just playing his favorite rapper. But I was surprised that
he was bumping that while this was going on.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
You know, of course guys like to get. They asked
with two they come too close? They getting. They asked
with you know what I'm saying. But you know, I
want to tell you.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was on verses and I'm into it with John
Rule and I said something that came out miscristrued your
sister had.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Came out and I didn't even know. Hold up, I
didn't know. Tell me, I didn't know. I didn't know
that's my girl.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I didn't even know she was backstage or who he
could have brought j Loo out and Mary Jay I
didn't know. I was just in the middle of the
shit and they ran with it. But I salute your sister.
I told her, sorry one thousand times, I tell you
the same thing.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
You know what I'm saying. That's the definitely stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (07:06):
Yeah, y'all, I thought I was gonna have to pull
these out real quick.

Speaker 10 (07:09):
Oh what the You.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Know, when you say something nice, you take the fly shot.
We're gonna give you an extra side right now. When
you say something you know, we take the ship back,
take it back. But who thought of this? And this
was a no brainer. This should have been happened, is it?
Is it like timing where you just say, yo, let's
come together, let's do this, or who thought.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Of putting y'all together like that?

Speaker 9 (07:37):
Yeah, it was definitely a timing thing, you know what
I mean. It was like thirty years. They had thirty years,
case had thirty big shout out the case too.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Case on the thought case Yeah, chase open that shit up,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (07:47):
So, yeah, years I told her thirty years, say I'm
at the I'm going, yeah, I buying a ticket.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, yeah, no tickets, Well come get that.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, I just told them I'm sneaking in the branding
on Monica on purpose. Like I'm not buying a ticket,
I'm sneaking in. Now them guys be in the back.
I'm like me plus three, I'm caught. I'm brushing the shop.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Now. We don't gotta go. We don't buy tickets, bro,
we don't.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
You got a problem if you ain't right, stick close.
I'm bum brushing, moveless. You're good, You're good, You're good.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
You don't even want to go through? Yo, who got
the tickets? Who didn't know? I'm now, y'all good? Stop,
y'all good.

Speaker 9 (08:34):
But yeah, that was a you know, pretty much an
idea that like Slim and I wanted to do something
really special and we wanted to bring back that that
nineties and nostalgia, you know what I mean. So we're
also managed by the same you know group, and we
were like yo. Aside from that, I know Keith said earlier,
you know, she wanted to give one twelve their flowers,
but we also wanted to get total their flowers as well,

(08:55):
because they have been so influential, not only in just music,
but just in fact and just how a woman is
is supposed to you know, be you know, like a
queen is supposed to be in this industry and beyond.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Man.

Speaker 9 (09:09):
So they just epitomize what that means man. So you know,
what better way for us to show that than to
just have them out there and then give them their
flowers as well, like they sisters for real, Like like
I'll give you a story, like I know, Keema get
tired of me telling the same story. So I used
to smoke cigarettes and ship right, So so.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
This is this is when I was.

Speaker 9 (09:36):
I thought that, so.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Sister, she would take the So we had a show.

Speaker 9 (09:47):
So we had a show with Total and I was
outside already hitting the square, right, so you know, I'm
on the block whatever, hitting swell. She comes out like
her model with she fight niggas, all right, So that's
that's that's her model anyway, like she fight niggas. You know,
that's off the rip, that's that shit, you know what
I mean. So I'm out sloting saying so I'm sitting
the sub. She come out of the van. I was like, yo, sinse,

(10:07):
what's happening. Yeah, smacked the ship right out of my hand,
like no no verse off the rip, like.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
From that point on, From from that point on, no
more cigarettes.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
So you know.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
A shrill love love, so shrill love, tough love. That
was the smartest shit ever happened. Absolutely, you know what cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
You know, both my parents just passed away and it
was all a product of smoking cigarettes. So my mom's
caught cancer early. One thing I could tell you is
bullshit that you can't quit. As soon as my mother smoked,
found cancer, my father quit the same.

Speaker 8 (10:49):
Dang.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
They used to smoke four packs and right. But the
damage is done and ship is a slow leakeru. It's
like you got a slow flat ten years later, twenty
years later, they got that c p O D with
You know, your lungs get water and all that cigarette ship.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
First of all, you are old.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Nigga smoking a cigarette right now. If you in front
of a building smoking a cigarette, they know your age.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
You're done, like they know yo.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
This guy fossil, he's smoking a cigarette, smoking the ship.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
But she did the right thing for you.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Well, Gisha, we all felt like you got rich and
just selled off to the sunsht.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I felt like, yo, you ain't need this money no more.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I felt like, yo, you know I get jealous of
people who could retire.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I can't retire. So will you do it? You'll give
me one of those.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
I read if you will reconnected with my king and
being in the industry. It was a really crucial time
when it was just my spirit. It wasn't working right
with my spirit, and when online I reconnected.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
He was in La.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
I had just shortly moved to Smyrna, Georgia, and our
plan was, We're not gonna let this.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Go to where Smyrna, Georgia. It's I've been everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
So he was living in La and our plan was
to never not realize the blessing of each other, the
presence of each other. We wanted to start our family
and for him, he said, I want you to do
what your heart desire is. And living in La seeing
kind of how people move, I didn't want our kids

(12:54):
to grow up like empty.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
So that was my choice. L A like the Beverly
Hills and all that. You know, we want to cut Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm saying that's what I'm saying. You want them to
have culture. Sierra came in around. She lives here now
because her husbands think she said she take them to
the boat. They get here, let them hear the old
man argue with the man behind the boat that she
wanted to make like we're trying to give these people
some kind of culture, because the plan is to have

(13:25):
our kids look better than us. But they gotta know,
like my daughter better know not the feet of lion
in the state.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
That's because yours done.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
They got to have the best of boat bros. And
they get that. Me from New Jersey on from you know,
Smrner Georgia. I like ship like that.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I always wanted to live somewhere like that, you know
what I'm saying, some something some shit like never been
able to man, you know, I always been in the
bullshit like I always want to be, like I'm even
New York Miami.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Ship gotta be hectic.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I really want to chill, so chi.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Right, But you can find a balance. You can find
the balance.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
A lot of trazy things doing this, and.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
I think there's no fat joys. They know the golf
want to chill. Go live somewhere way you can really chill.
Who does that mean? Well, you'll be chilling I'll be chilling.
You have to. I don't know how to chill. That's
that's where all the pieces.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
You know what I'm saying, but crazy chilling.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Say I saw you out there in Miami. I was
staying in North Mind that was in Belle Harbor. Then
I thought, you know you.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
You thought I was chilling. I mean, I mean, I'm chilling.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
But let me tell you something. I paid taxes yesterday.
I stood home and chill.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
My ass was in that.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
My ass was in that fucking Michael Jackson all the
air machine.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I'm in the Hyde cornic like like.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I don't know what the fuck these people be doing
with this ship, like paying all the fucking taxes. This
ship is unfucking believable. I'm sitting up in there twitching
and ship my family trying to keep me company. And
ship my family trying to keep me company, Like yo, Joe,

(15:35):
want some wings or something like this ship. That's the
only time I chill. And I gotta pay that bill
right there. That ship legendary.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
What But it's a good problem to have. That means
he's doing something, like doing something right.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Fact, so he did in Texas.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now with this, were you told about a guy who
used to eat free lunch of government cheese, saying they
got me back, man, they got me. They got me
for all the government cheese.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
These motherfuckers got me important.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Shiploads of fucking government cheese with my taxes.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
This ship, crazy man, government lost, man, is out of control.
What's that?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Crazy city people? You know, the one thing they do
got is the beautiful music. You guys got timeless music.
I sit in my pool man in the summer, Man,
I listen to y'all ship back the back, the back, back.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Often.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
Performing back to back on you.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Because I know we we held this statesman now, so
I need a day in between.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Oh man, Yeah, this is a so for this year
because of what was going on in the in the
in the world, in the country right now. You know,
what we wanted to do is like we wanted to
make sure that, you know, people weren't trying to decide
on buying Christmas presents or Thanksgiving dinner and going to concerts.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
So what we did was we scaled back for this
year and we overloaded for next year. We want everybody
to see exactly what you are getting. You know what
I'm saying, we basically putting the steer touching all six
senses inside of theaters. You know what I'm saying. So
you're getting You're definitely getting your money's worth. And next
year it'll be you know, back to back to back

(17:30):
for the rest of the fifteen or eighteen of the
shows that you got.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
How in back? How many back backs? We got sixty?
Doctor becks, Oh no, my shit fucked up. I can't
do That's when I can't do it. Get the drip.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
The men said, I did a three triple play. Ain't
that's some bullshit. I keep complaining, but I do three
shows in one. I don't give a fuck. I'm going
to get the bag. Got to get poker.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Ratone here, Club eleven, three in the morning.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
You feel me?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
So I did his show Club eleven. Man, I ain't
gonna lie. It's the third show. I didn't have the
right energy, Like two three months ago, I ain't have
the right energy. And the and the promoter who books
me all the time. Great Club eleven. You go to Miami,
go to the man hit me up and was like, Yo, man,
you ain't had the right energy. I said, next time,
I'm gonna give you double the show. I'm gonna have

(18:22):
that energy. And I slept all day when I went
in to Club eleven, like last week, Man, I'm bouncing around.
I did the whole catalog for the mark now because
we ain't got dumb. They the guys buying, they the
hell choppers that one of the motherfuckers.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Sir, you ain't doing right.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
You do about four or five I do about four
or five Club elevens a year, right, and when we
round that ship off to the nearest, we don't want.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
To fuck that bag up. You don't want that off
the table. Big told us some shit a long time ago.

Speaker 9 (18:56):
He was like, Yo, I'm gonna do Matinees from now,
I'm gonna do Matna's and I'm gonna do a show
at night.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
We was like, bro, you bugging. It was like nah,
if I can get it, and you know maddenee like
during the day and then one at night. I'm doing
that ship for like what did he how much? You
say he was doing them since world.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
But he was like, I'm gonna bring he was talking
about making a million.

Speaker 9 (19:14):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was something like
but he he gave it. He dropping juice, right, so
he was just like, Yo, y'all need to do matinees.
And I was like, bro, you know we seen so
we can't really do that ship. You know, like a
matinee and a show at night, you know what you know.
But we like where you're going with that ship, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
But he was like, Yo, I'm doing the Man right after,
right after.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
First of all, I'm old right like season we season no, No,
if I got a late show, I'm taking the fucking
Old Man. Not everything. I'm in the car, I'm taking that.
I got my shister's calculated. If we're driving to Jersey,
you know I'm sleeping, I want to bring my own pillow.

(19:56):
From what I'm saying to you, wish.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Of Old Man ship?

Speaker 8 (20:01):
Rich, y'all good?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Do I know?

Speaker 8 (20:03):
How good?

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Do I know? This guy? Me explained Sunday Because of COVID.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I don't know if they realized, but they started throwing
like brunch parties, I mean, five thousands like that ship,
like you're.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Looking on the ground that show. I was like, Yo,
we could go.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
We can actually lit our wife and say we went
golfing and we at the bunch.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Joe, let me.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Tell you something, Joe, Joe can't get away with that.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
But somebody not famous was in them ship that's coming back,
so it ain't on me. I ain't going to none
of them ship.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I'm just telling you whether it did you finish them
whoever wasn't famous. They were saying they going somewhere to
work or whatever, and they was in that brunch twelve noon.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
She was you home at four o'clock.

Speaker 8 (21:04):
I'm little ship. I got booked at nine in the morning.
It looked like it looked.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Like fuck you see that.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's the only thing was shipping by the way, nine
in your morning, dorg by it. I pulled up and
the spinning people was coming out, growing up, getting walked out.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
I want to know you they was up from the nighted. No,
that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I'm thinking, it's nobody in there and this ship is
dead his ash brown.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
How weird it is? It looked like the million. It
was crazy at nine. I went on in about ten thirty.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
That ship looked like you or looked at night.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I think that ship worked right.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
That was the Illes ship.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I haven't been Camillo trying to get herself out of dude,
I mean full energy at nine in the morning, all
the charge wasn't right down, gotta be right was right?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
The job got damn. You got to mean people.

Speaker 8 (22:01):
At ten thirty in the morning. I didn't think that
even that.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, No, they like yeah, but that's what I'm talking about.
They were throwing parties like that first thing in the morning.
Five thousand people popping champagne, this, this. Those are season
folks that came out at that time. They don't want
to do that three in the morning, ship two in
the morning. You'll be dizzy by the time, Yes, sir,

(22:25):
A normal person, not a rapper who's used to that time.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
It's three in the morning. I ain't.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
I go to this studio in the morning after the gym.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
See, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Hey, hey, I thought, are you guys still in the studio,
like in the studio? Yes? So what's that like a
like the clubhouse?

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Well studio. We all have an own studio. But we
love starting like in the morning morning. Yeah, because I
mean your voice is nice and refreshed. You just woke up,
you know what I'm saying. Uh, we do our love regiment.
Let's go and then I gotta buy a studio. He
in the studio every day, I'm not in the studio.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Why not.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Got gotta stay too much ship, too much life going on,
too much money.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
I go there and want the sun. Now, I ain't
got too much money.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
That's no search, no shirt, I ain't got too much
time to say. My thing is like it sounds whack,
but it's like I gotta like motivate myself to go
to the studio now.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
And before it was like I'm in the studio every day.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Now I gotta be like like, now I'm in the
fucked up position. I told one of my best friends
on earth.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Be love you.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm going to dinner with him tonight, and I've been
excited for that all day.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Now y'all telling me, y'all.

Speaker 8 (23:43):
Brooklyn, I ain't going there this show.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Y'all got this. I'm fucked up. I'm like jan for me.

Speaker 8 (23:59):
I'm going.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Can you do early dinner?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm there, Yeah, I think it might be an early dinner.
What time y'all get on stage?

Speaker 4 (24:05):
The eight fifteenth, right, like Case said, the.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Case Case was the man back in the day. The
ladies love Case back in the day. They still all care. Right,
he looked like a whole.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Prop man if you say he was going they were
going crazy.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
I'm trying to say certain ladies here, let me see
which one.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Get ready, But they always bring his name up when
we talk about that era is like case Case was outside.
This is what I'm trying to chase. Certain eighty friends
of mine, they'd be like, y'all problem and ship like that.
You know, you know he was out there, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Outside.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
You know that they didn't have social media, so you
know what.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I'm saying, all we came up at the top with.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Hey, social media ruin luck.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Social media ruin luck because yes, been my mom's in pots.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
They never had us. No, they ain't tamp they ruined luck.

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Speaker 1 (27:00):
My moms and pops ain't have a fucking dollar and
they was together for fifty something years.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
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Speaker 1 (27:08):
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around before electricity.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Speaking.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
But I'm saying is thank god we come up at
a time where it wasn't social media, because they force
you to leave your partner.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Now before you discuss with your partner.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Now that yo, I think this ain't working out, they
throw the line on the shade Mooley like.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Done.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Joe had an argument in public, It's over and they're
not a pressure coming yo. Girl. You know that's why
I never did a reality show because I was like, now, everybody,
it's something you go through something with your wife or
your husband, y'all could work that out. Now I was
on TV and your friend is giving her fucking advice
so that yo, I.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Don't know about this shit you talking like this.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
I'd have definitely got thrown out of my house if
I had a fat joke show or the carda Genius
done deal mylesga because I'm weird. I'm an Orthodox, but
my wife understand me. But if you watching on TV
you're like, fuck.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Him, get rid of them. Girl. I feel I feel
you on that ship.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Everybody accustomed to their partner, certain people, certain way, you
know what I'm saying. But you know that social media shit,
it's hard for the youth. There's a lot of pressure
for the youth in every way, shape or form.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
You know.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Dating huh, no such thing as dating like asking a girl.
My daughter speaks about that all the time, like signing in.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
The DM.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Be gordeous safe to say it's easier for guys now
before you have to jump out the whip and be like, hey,
what's up girl, what's going on? You know you got
how that Luther van Joyce when you pull up on
the whip.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
So when when she gets in the whip, that shit
compos It's not all that.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now I'm on a dating they're on the phone right
next to them, like you ain't sold it?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Sure, I think guys are bolder.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Younger guys are bolder now through the text then they
are on person.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
But you know what's crazy about it is like the
standard is like push because I'm I tell my serns,
I'll be like, look, not pay attention, understand what entertainment
social media is entertainment, but you got some people who
actually live that. They'll look at certain people that they
look up to and say, oh she wears this, Oh
that's where.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
They go to or whatever. I require you.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
To take me first time.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
You gonna spend about one thousand dollars on dinner. It's
got to be this first way before we even know
each other.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, What's remember the what's
that bullshit? Instead of places you couldn't don't listen unless
every left read now right? Olive god.

Speaker 10 (30:09):
I think the women robbers. I think the women hold
on listen Taco freaking bill bro.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
If she loves you, if she loves you, yeah, I
mean yeah, I want to eat it.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
You gotta bell for a dated I never because I'm fat.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Joke. I'm gonna eat steak and lobster every night, no
matter what. You come along for the ride. I don't
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Right, But my thing is, I think the women won
like they want Why because guys they want Yes, because
the guys are like manipulated, and you're gonna get over
on whoever you're gonna get over. So sometimes a girl
didn't know her worst back in the day and before
she figured that ship out.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
You know, you know, I ran threw you out of here.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Now at least now they know through Instagram, they're like, Yo,
this is a Kelly want to take me out? Is
it Kelly her mask? Go work, get your weight up,
you know what I'm saying. And these guys, I don't
know what the fuck they doing to get the shit
because seem like everybody.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Got a twenty thousand dollars bag on this.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
I see.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
That's the reason why I like, So I got daughters, right,
I got two daughters, eighteen and the thirteen year old.
So ever since they were little girls, I would always
open doors for yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. You know, just
so they know this is the standard. So my eighteen
year old, like now, sit both my kids like they'll
sit there and wait there like a nigga, you're gonna
get this door, like you know, it's it's the look,
you know, somebody, It's already in their head now, So
they know that there's a standard to how I'm supposed

(31:43):
to be treated.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
So that's that's how you know I did it man
with mine.

Speaker 9 (31:46):
Man like, and you know, and I I would advise
and I would encourage any man or any woman that
has daughters to like treat them as if how you
want them to be treated when they.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Are in somebody else's act.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (31:59):
Man, it's like, yeah, it's it's definitely Southern hospitality. But
it's just I want whomever she she ends up.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
With to treat her the same way that I treat it,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (32:09):
So that's why I'm opening doors and yes, ma'am, I'm
listening and I'm doing all these things because you know,
raising girls is it's a lot different. My boy like
them dudes like, you know, stop, you know, cut that out.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
But the girls you have to you know, you have
to actually listen.

Speaker 9 (32:24):
And then they could have told you that, yeah it
was red yesterday, it's blue today. You know, it's the
same thing we're talking about, but it's red today, tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
That is blue, Okay.

Speaker 9 (32:34):
And I'm like, babe, what we just talked about to say,
you know what, I'm a girl, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Talk that king.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Talk just saw that king, everything you saw in this
industry and life and everything.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
How you deal with having a young daughter.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
I think it's just it's kind of more like what
Prince was saying, Mike, it's what you put, what you
instill in them, is raising them that way to show
her what she's deserving of and having real conversations. In
our house, we have real convers It's always our little
lounge room, living room, comfy in there, you know, got
the TV going. We eat together and you sit down,

(33:08):
you have real conversations. Our kids we have. We've been
blessed to have really great relationships with my son who's seventeen,
and my daughter Kamara, twenty one. We have real conversations.
It's like, talk to your dad. There's some game I
can't give you. I can give you what I have
as a woman, but it's some game I can't give
you that your father can give you. That it makes
all the sense in the world. And maybe if it

(33:29):
don't make sense right now, eventually it will right. But
just take his word because she that's the first man
that she trusts.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's right first too.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
But I also think a lot we got to change
what's in the music because that's the driving force of
how people show up to how the guy approaches the female,
how the male approaches you.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Know what I mean, how the female are what she's expecting.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
We have real conversations like, nah, that's not fear that
they're going out. They're twenty one, they're going out. You
expecting the guy to buy you this inite? Where are
you getting the money from?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
You know?

Speaker 5 (34:03):
So I think with the music, we still have good music,
but we're not vulnerable in our music anymore. We don't
talk about love like it's this whole thing like with men,
and you know the stuff that men y'all got to
carry so much in the saying y'all can't be a man.
A real man is transparent with that partner. He can
he can talk about what his feelings are.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know, I just had this conversation with nephew, his
son where he was like, you know, some artists of today,
they just want to get whatever the bag is. The
bag is stupid, Hubert yaba yabay. They're gonna do that
ship for the bag. Right, we come up a time
where we pay homage. We had daylight soul to me

(34:44):
that gods, fucking legends of all legends, gods of God.
So when we come I want my followers or my
fans to know, y'all, this is fucking will you taking right,
and they kind of like missing that with the youth,
where they just like, it's not about the culture, it's
not about the message. It's not about it's more like

(35:06):
stick them up wherever, you know, and that shit don't
last long, right, And so that integrity is what's missing.
And whenever we have the youth, because all the time
we're doing this, we teach it, right. So that's what
this show is all about. Teaching people need to hear that.
It's people dealing with that. It's people need to hear

(35:29):
everything we're saying. You know out there who really been
following you for thirty years, following us for thirty years,
and they're like, all right, cool because everybody dealing everybody
got teenage shorts, right.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Fucking guys coming us in the game.

Speaker 9 (35:43):
It's great that you touched on that though, bro, because
that's one thing that we one of the main reasons
why we wanted to do this tour outside of you know,
getting at their bread, but but really real rap. There
is something to be said about the way that we
treat our culture and we treat our artists that is seasoned,
if you will, versus like rock music and talk. We

(36:06):
don't age out over it, don't crack, we don't age
out like we get better over time. And it's like,
if you're a certain age in R and B and
and hip hop, you're considered old antiquated as well. But
you know, in rock world right now, er Ero Smith
right now, if they was just like, yo, we're going
on to it right now, they should be sold out

(36:26):
in like two minutes forget about it, you know, And
so we got.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
To give.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
And you know, just to add on to it. Man,
we definitely have to get out on our genre as
far as support too. Like I went to a Pearl
Jam concert right.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Big shout out to pro jab.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Look, the lead singer was young, but he sounded just
like the lead singer right right.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
He was a new.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Man. But the people there, they were like embraced in
the music so once. So I I'm sitting there, I'm
just soaking in all the energy. You know what I'm saying,
My mind is a catalog is crazy. And all of
a sudden, the people start that was around started noticing
who I was, and they were like, hey, man, when
we don't see y'all, we don't see you, you know

(37:16):
what I'm saying. Whatever, whatever, and I was like, man,
you know cause things wasn't the way it was the
way it was at the time, and they were like, look,
I don't care how we hear this music. We just
want to hear this music. Hey, I can't name three
people up in here, but when that record came on,

(37:36):
that whole stadium lit up. And it's just unfortunate that,
you know what I'm saying, people don't know what's going
on behind the scenes. But to even get there, we're
already like told what we can't do from the time
we first started, you know what I'm saying. So for
us to get to this situation right here, like we
at our thirtieth year and you're seeing us and you're

(37:58):
hearing us, and you're feeling us at this level right here,
we've already won at this point, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm going to encourage everybody out there. You know
what I'm saying, Hey, man.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Support support our culture.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
You know what I'm saying. People build their music comes
from us.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Right and we gotta walk the walk.

Speaker 9 (38:19):
We gotta gotta walk walk Because I'm I'm a Grammy
voter too, so you know, I made it a responsible
like I felt incumbing right to not only just talk
about the fact that y'all, man, they always voting for
the same people that Now, bro, now I'm a vote.
Nowm a Grammy voter, So like I'm gonna do my
part as well, and just you know, all the artists
that I love and that I know that don't get

(38:39):
that kind of support that you know that the majors
will just put behind whatever. So like it's more than
just saying, you know, you we should support, whether it's
actually doing the actions or whatever. Man, but you know,
it's something to be said about how we treat our artists.
It's like if you're not popping, if you're not relevant
at the time, then it's like your whole cag went away.

(39:01):
And it's like your whole body of work we sacrificed.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Everybody.

Speaker 9 (39:05):
Everybody here has thirty years or more of sacrifice. Like
people don't understand what it takes to be in the
music industry. So how much shit you have to give up?
How much shit you you missed, You miss out on graduations, birthdays, funerals,
all this other stuff, man, Just to it's crazy, like
we knew what it was what the Bible say to
who much is given, much is required, right, So we've

(39:27):
been given a lot, but at the same time we
had to give a lot as well, man. So I
don't think that part of the industry never gets talked
about enough, or if it does, it's like y'all complaining,
y'all rich, you know, y'all millionaires and doing all this
other stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Man.

Speaker 9 (39:41):
So you know, y'all don't have a right to complain.
You don't have a right to you know. And no,
we're human. We're just as human as everybody else in
and like Keisha was saying, we have vulnerabilities as well.
And the great thing about it is like you guys
platform were able to speak on these kind of things whatever,
because so for so many years we were unable to
about the fact that Yo. Man, like I'm sick as

(40:02):
a dog right now, not sick and contagious like anything
like that. But I like, vocally, I don't know how
i'mna do the show tonight, but I'm gonna push through.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
But people don't want to hear that shit.

Speaker 9 (40:11):
They're like, yo, I pay my money, I need you
singing tonight, you know what I mean. So some kind
of way I'm going to push through it. But it's
that thing. It's those things that people don't understand, you
know what I mean. And so I'm glad that we're
able to and I want to thank you guys as
well on behalf of total end.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Once something over there, give me a medicine ball son.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
I'm thinking like this is a psychiatrician some now, right,
because I'm sitting back here listening to y'all and I'm
saying to myself a couple of things. The reason why
I started this saying what took so long for y'all
to collaborate together and do this? Because to me, if
I was around y'all, this was a no brain right
with no disrespect.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Let me let me give you.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I like to tell a humbling story of mine before
I tell somebody a humbling thing.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Right. I remember I went through the taxis. You know,
they took all my money. I was fucked up.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I went to see Pitt Bull said, you know, pit
Bull said, Yo, Joe, come see me, right, So I
go see Pitt Bull. His house is on the water,
like you know. Yes, I took Pitt Bull's demo to
TVT and got him his record.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Deal me fat Joe.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Now I come to him, I'm at the brokens of
my life. He's on the water, He's buying hospitals and schools,
all types of take down. He was like, yo, jow,
I want to give you some money. What can I
do to help you. I was like, your, Pitt, you
can't give me no money. I don't get down like that.
But Joe, let me.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Give you some break.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Like he really was probably the only person begging me
to give me some money, right, And I was like, yo, Pitt,
how you get this shit? He said, that's easy. I
watched every mistake you bane. He said, you should have
signed Lil Wayne when he came to Miami. You should
have signed Rick Ross, You could have signed Pitt Bull.
You could have signed He said, I watched you did,

(42:02):
and I did the opposite.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Now I had to take that the criticism at the time.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I had to look at it and be like damn
and just reevaluate mistakes and shit I did and how
I had to move. And so what I'm telling you
is because of this era, it was a time I
was really pissed, right because they were taking guys like
you right, say, you lost your deal when you're twenty
six years old. They were like the old school at

(42:29):
noon and playing one twelve and everybody I grew up with,
and I'm like, yo, old school at newdise motherfucker's only
twenty four, right, And then I feel like that era
really let them do that to them. You know, we
from an era we say fuck you were doing whatever
the fuck we're gonna do. So with us hip hop.

(42:51):
I think like jay Z took ownership. I mean, everybody
started just taking ownership, saying fuck y'all, we're gonna do
what we want to do. And if you say, you
know how many times I have friends tell me, yo,
it's over, Like I had one of my best.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Friends some of YO, you should quit already.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
It's so I'm like what I came out with lean
back Like two months later, I was like, fuck are
you talking about?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Every time? When we did all the way up, I'll
tell you this story. I was coming studio.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
These kids already had yellow head, green head percher, motherfucker
looking at me like the old nigga on.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
The couch, YO, suck bold you what's up? Uncle? Walking through?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Like they thought I was wash And then we come
all the way up. This shit go number one so
it's like and never let them dictate what we're doing.
Like right now we jump up in the podcast space.
We're a little late, but we had to come do
this because they gotta hear y'all and your side of
the story, and we got to teach.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
It's all about teaching, you know. This is what we do.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Whether we have the youth, we have the O g's,
whatever the case may be, it's no question. So what
I'm trying to tell y'all is this, whether y'all don't
know it, anytime your music come on, this shit.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Is legendary every fucking time. Fuck every time, every time,
every time your shit come on, and they can't take
that from you. So you got something, God bless you
with something that you could go ten years from now.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
The total one twelve to who gives a fuck?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
They want to see it again, and then the more
maturitre fan, the more they got money in their pocket.

Speaker 6 (44:35):
So let me just say this, we're definitely in line
exactly what you're saying. So with one twelve hole movement,
you know what I'm saying, big shout out to our
management team. You know what I'm saying, Like years ago,
you know what I'm saying, with God, we got a
chance to actually put the reins in our hands. Where

(44:56):
you know, when people were like shutting the door saying no,
we don't think you're up to this standard or whatever,
we did. What we did was we shot our own
postar numbers up and we traveled around the world. We
believed in ourselves, We brand ourselves and that's what we did,
and then we learned the knowledge of the game.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
And then we made.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
The actual agencies come to us. So with this tour
that you see, we earned it. We earned it by
selling out whatever place that they put yes, and what
we did was we sold it out four years and

(45:36):
so same agencies then had to track what they what
they said, and now had to cut the check. So
exactly what you see, you know with one twelve and
you're seeing total and.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
The whole case situation.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Yes, we are getting the flowers and thank you, thank
everybody out there, But I just want everybody to understand
that this is a business too, and you know what
I'm saying, you have to earn it. It's less of
that talk. We always come just like thank you, you
know what I'm saying. Whatever, But it's a reason It's
just like, how y'all created this podcast. You didn't say, Oh,

(46:10):
it's so many other podcasts or whatever. No, y'all took it,
and then y'all that's why y'all number one. So you
know what I'm saying. So thank God, Oh see what
I'm saying for our people? Thank thank God for our
people that you know what I'm saying. Believe that this ship, Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Own this ship, Boston and ship. So we got free.
We talked to whoever we want to talk to. We
do whatever the fuck we want to do, and we
don't give a fuck. And that was the difference. No,
it's the truth.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
No, it's the truth.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
No, it's difference between when we all came up to now.
I hate it right being signed to a major level.
Lady Fat Joe, the gangster motherfucker scared. They even talked
to me. Their lips is shaking in the street. I
gotta talk to this bonzo John Wolfing tend and be like, hey,
could you really promote my record?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Could you do?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
You know how imbarrassed I would have been in the
streets that they would have seen videos of that ship?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yo? Could you really are? Are you gonna put the
push the button.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
This time, buddy, I brought you someone sandwiches so you
could like fuck out here. I had to take power
in my own hands and go independent.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
I wasn't scared.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I was like, man, fuck these dudes, and I've been
winning ever since.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
But it's about taking the power. And you answer.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I want to ask you a question, don't want to answer.
It may be a little something, but with the controversy,
do you worry about Not now, obviously not, But was
you at the time worrying about your catalog or how
people will receive your music? I know it had nothing
to do with you, but you know you're falling that

(47:47):
whole thing. Anybody want to answer that.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
I know what we're talking about. I just want to
It made him want to hear it more exactly.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Were thought about it, but it was it, but it
was your mine.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
So you play and you see, no.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
People still love you and it has really nothing to
do with you, nothing to do with us at all.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
At first you said music.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
At first you said this might be fucking our ship
up because you could catch it.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
It was not so much more something you just thought about,
like you know, it.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Could possibly been a trickle effect.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
But not, so I'm gonna tell you something like and
big shot that Tony Neil out there for Cord So
I like you so so he called me. That's my homie.
He called me when the first when it first popped off,
and I was like, well, you got to look at it.
On the one side, you know what I'm saying, We
saw our royalty shoot up like a thousand percent. Why

(48:49):
because the younger people didn't even know who Diddy and stuff.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
At first, what was the music?

Speaker 6 (48:55):
But it said what is the music?

Speaker 4 (48:56):
So who these people? That's whatever?

Speaker 6 (48:58):
And then it was like, ohbody go to Joe that
ships for some reason, that's what it is. So then
I said, okay, well now this is what we're going
to do, because what he was worried about was, oh man,
I wonder what I heart radio and what's going to do.
So he put me on the on the phone with
somebody that was that was an executive, and I was like, hey,
because I already know how it feels like when you

(49:19):
when you go independent and now you're the CEO of
your own stuff, your conversation goes different. It's not like
you're sitting sheepishly as an artist. You're now the CEO.
And I know because I dropped so Fly and it
went double platinum independent. Right, So when you make a
phone call, you say, Hey, I'm going to talk to

(49:41):
the person who runs the southeastern side of You know
what I'm saying, Walmart, Hey, how come my stuff is
not here? Or whatever? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Make it happen.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
Same thing what Tony did. He put me on the
phone with somebody from our heart and it happened and under.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yo, Man, we love you, man, We thank you for
all the years of supporting us as artists. You've always
been true to the game. Man, we love you, brother.
You know here we get them, We give them flowers.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
You know he just caught the blessing on the on
the Humble. You know what I'm saying, on the walk through.
Somebody gonna tell them. Yo, you've seen the podcast. They
was bigging you up.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Tony. You're bro. He might be just about to close
the deal.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Somebody need to hear that ship, like Tony Neil, that's important.
I was worried about it, right, so, you know I
worry about everybody. Let me tell you something I thought
about it. I was, yeah, all right, what you're saying.
I worry about everybody because the oppressors, the oppressors, the

(50:45):
people who've been playing with us in this business, they
always try to make us feel like we don't love
each other. Well, we're not really like in the class
of whatever, whatever the case, And that's a fucking lie.
The minute I hear somebody sick, somebody passed, somebody there,
somebody this, I hurt, even though I don't see y'all

(51:06):
every day, I just be like, damn, man, what the fuck?
Whatever they have you thinking that it's all competition, that
we don't love each other, but we really love each other.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Our situation, I'm gonna tell you to keep it real.
That much shot up tremendously. If you're a person that
you understaying you can control your.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Nets to a positive. So we're here, Yeah, we're here.
Oh no, no, no, you're more than here.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
You guys represent a time of music that cannot even
be a fucking duple.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
That's an era. You know what I'm saying. What's the man?
Stephen A. Smith? You know you too, bro? Stephen A.
Smith came on. He was like yo, man.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
You know you know my mic fucked up at the
Yankee World Series was honor f for me. I grew
up five blocks away. So they put the fucking delay
on my ship. So he talking about Yo ice Cube
did it floorlessly? I said, bro, I practiced three times
a day. The ship was perfect when they turned it on.
The ship had a delight. There's nothing not to do

(52:10):
about it. But I almost felt like he was disvaluing
my mother fucking monsters.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
My ship number one billboard, all of them.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Ships I played in Yankee Stadium was number one bill board,
one hundred number.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Not the fucking dischart of that shot.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
So my brother Stephen and Strinth, when I went home
and I thought about it, I said, Yo, Steve, you
this credit in that Boom boom.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
It ain't no regular ship coming on. Nothing to stop me.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I'm all over. You can't discredit themb missing man. You know,
ice cbe the guard of guards and we're gonna salute
the man.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Yes, let's be.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Playing the big huh, I said, put a song in
the movie. God damn it. But my thing is, they
can't discredit your catalog. You know, I was listening to
you the other day when what's the part of the
song that you go like, Tony, Tony, Tony.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Feels good.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
You couldn't wait to do that, Jay, you couldn't wait
to go feels good?

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Hey man?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Who some of the guys influenced you, because you know
you guys are legends to everybody who influenced you.

Speaker 9 (53:34):
While sound originated from take six and commissioned, So those
two gospel you know groups, they gave us that initial
sound and then big shout out to Tim and Bob
who basically molded our.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Sound into what it was.

Speaker 9 (53:47):
But our three, like we always say, we have a trifecta,
right of three groups that always were like the tier
before one twelve and that's new edition, Jo Desy and
Boys Are Men. It's like so those three was like
that were those pis like untouchable. You had the soulfulness
from Jodasy, You had the harmonies and the songs and
the beautiful songs well Jodas and beautiful songs as well

(54:08):
from Boys to Men, and then you had the overall
entertainment aspect from new addition. So that was a trifecta
as far as one twelve was concerned. And then we
were that tier underneath you know some of those guys.
So like that's that's how we looked at it. But
we also had like major influences everywhere because we toured
with Whitney and the Osley Brothers and Janet and puffed
that in the Family New Edition. So we all, like

(54:30):
you said, taking it back in paying homage, we learned
something from all of them. Like you know, we learned
how to be you know, classy with with the Osi Brothers.
We learned how to how to embrace an entire audience
with Whitney, and we learned how to be entertainers with
New Audition, And you know, it was just it was
all those lessons, man, we learned from So we learned
from everybody. Man, we learned from Tope. We learned from

(54:51):
the Locks. This crazy to it is like when we
first met the Locks, we thought Mace was was in
the group. We thought Mace was what like.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
The fourth endment of the Locks. We first.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
That was great, We thought, we thought, I can't wait
till I give this man this check. I can't wait,
I'll give check this man ever seen it. I'm caning
fucking wait right cause he.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Fucked with me.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
But you know I got the master plan, don't worry
about I know how to get you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Who are some of your influences? Man?

Speaker 6 (55:26):
You know, well for me having an untraditional voice, man
like I always looked at artists like you know, Raphael Sadi,
Stokely or something like that, Babyface Elder Barge Ron Dog.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Man.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
So it's just like the people who had different style
voices where you know first, like if they whisper, you
know exactly who they are. So I had to understand
my voice and find my place, you know what I'm saying.
Thank Print might for understanding like, Okay, he doesn't have
the most traditional voice, but he'd be in the group,
you know what I'm saying. And I just felt like

(56:00):
my part of being in the group was, you know,
of course, whatever the harmonies are, what we're supposed to do,
but that when it's my turn to sing, then I
need to understand my voice and understand like, okay, when
you sing, Slim, you know what I'm saying, that's going
to differentiate us from anyone else.

Speaker 9 (56:21):
You know what was crazy When Slim first got in
the group, he didn't sing any leads. He was not
He didn't sing any leads whatsoever. Right, Puff set us
all down and was like, Yo, that's y'all lead singer.
And at first we were like, Yo, you bugging you
know what I mean, because like we don't have a
lead singer. Yeah, we didn't have any we links or whatever.
But he understood the business aspect of him. It's like, Yo,

(56:44):
this dude got one of the most distinctive voices on earth,
Like like, if you hear him, you immediately associate his
voice for one twelve. So that didn't belittle the rest
of us, you know, as far as like what we
were able to contribute. But you heard my voice before
one of them, they the rough and Sam Cook kind
of dudes, you know what I mean. So that's you
heard that the way yeah, Donny had the way. You

(57:05):
heard that soulfulness, you heard that before. So with him,
you've never heard a dude like that before. Even with
all the people that he said he was influenced by,
you never really heard his voice before because we had
what Drew Hill, who else was out next.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Next ass Yet you see when the man punished this
little son made the.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Give We're gonna make him do some one twelve choreography.
We could be swim. Take a look at one a.

Speaker 9 (57:39):
Choreography look at it. Yeah, you know, y'all y'all need
to do wonder well, it's over. Now do the choreography
on that. The kids will never do anything in their
life for that, never do nothing bad in their life.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Influenced y'all. Mary J. Blige, total, yes, yes.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
As far as total growing up from me, it was
Whitney Houston, Stephanie Mills, their vandro.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Come mom, those are my favorites about it.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Yea, even Sister Sledge to conn like and then I
remember as far as like our presentation and our delivery
and style, it was the label's that's that's what puff.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
You know you were.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
That's crazy because you got some of my top fives too.
That's not Stephanie Mills.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
She the queen you know, so happy for her at
this moment that she right.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Now right I told her yould may I knew ahead
of time. You know, Stephanie mil my girl, you know
we're on a different level.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
We are matching first. You know, one year she can't
she had to show I.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Can't pull up with the beach and chill up down
on her fucking antis.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
She ain't even know why I gave it to her.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I said, here you go, just where it would help
Stephanie Mils, my girl.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Don't do that. Why I knew, I'm just sitting it.
I didn't tell him. Yeah, the centergy is money and baby.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Hold on, hold on, baby Face, you know he come
to my birthday parties.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
This is not a lie. You could google this ship.
You don't believe it when I tell him I'm cool with.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
People, so you can call baby face. Because me and
Kim looking for a record.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Super facts, I could call baby Face.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I tell him, I don't know if I'm going to
get him the record.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
I can't tell you what the man you don't want
to tell him. You want me to tell him about
to get baby fair man. I can't even.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Believe I know because we can't say what should have been,
because it could have been. It should have been right,
it's not it's gonna be that.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Every time you sound like get in the middle of
a little literally over the could I wasn't doing. What
did you do earlier? Oh I ain't even know what
the it was?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Stupid Fried, I tell him, though some people don't know
when they fried. I know I'm fried, right, I'm more
I did, I forget everything. I don't give a fuck man,
you know what I'm saying, Yo, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Like a bosh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
You put the blinders on me and say the bags
got weigh and I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
I gotta go get that ship. That's what it's all about.
That's what's up. But yeah, Stephanie Mills Man, she's everything
to me. You know we need to stephan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
The moment she had on TikTok when everybody we did it,
we went super You were scared to do that ship man,
you ain't want to sing like that. You hit him
with the year old step You think I ain't knowing
I was.

Speaker 8 (01:00:55):
Doing this singing. He was doing the dance.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
Yeah, this is wild.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
He didn't want to do the dance. I said, y'all,
will I wish?

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Let me tell yousel if I could throw my whole
rap career in and be an R and B singer,
I would have did it long time ago. I think
Remy too. Remy would have did the same. Like we
faked singers. We want to sing, we love it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
But she you know it's like sim win a rap,
won a rap. She's snooky.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
Kema Slim Slim did the Stephanie Mills joint with us.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Y'all didn't Kim threatened with dancing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
They threatened because they you was doing the old School.
Now I was going harder.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
You gotta go hard on.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
That was gonna be on the tour.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
So I'm in here. Man, kids.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I seen so many mothers force their little kids eleven
years old to do the old school and they jumping
up and down, they doing the jewel. Hel shipped the
new edition. Ship the new audition. Do me a favor,
your forty five fifty plus. I'm going to the new
addition show.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I always do. Don't do the don't do the boutine.
Don't hear it. It is a lot. Don't do that.
It's not allowed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
That's like Lebron James doing the young It can't do that.
It's over.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
No, I need a new addition to do their steps.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Man, we need don't do this, you grown man, the
stop do it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Don't do it, Okay, I got friends of mine trying
to do it. Real guys, you're twenty in jail. It
is a I'm like, but you know what, we have it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
Hey, we got a whole bunch of you know, man,
hardcore cats be coming out there and just waiting to
sing and Cupid, it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Do I sing it like that too?

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
That's I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
You could do with that? When that's a Cupid.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
That Cupid said last night was amazing and player, y'all
have to come see this show. I'm sorry, like it
took me back. I'm like, I just became a new
fan of y'all in rehearsal.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
Now we're new fans again and seeing this show.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
You have to come tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
You it's crazy. Ya gotta come to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Dinner tonight. I gotta come too. I got you hold
up on me. It was an all hip hop show.
I think Sacramento or something exactly. I don't know what
the fuck he was doing the Sacramento but he pulls
up joint on song on I said, he came a
body the whole stadium. I knew it. Come on now,

(01:03:36):
no slim body the whole fucking stadium.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
Big shout out to all my family out there, all
the friends out there in Sacramento. Everybody knows. I'm like,
I'm an Opening Raiders fan. So you're saying through and through,
so you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
You know what I did that one time too. I
was on the run.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I caught you in Sacramento and then here held the bar.
She finally showed up. You know I've been chasing them
the bar to the whole fuck. Come on, bro, a man,
don't show up the ship. I'm for my birthday. Elder
bustle to show off ship, all this ship.

Speaker 8 (01:04:10):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Now, he ain't been paying attention to my birthday parties.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Elder bars.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
We had them to the point of where I was
technically bracked. I had Swiss beats, got this fucking like
three four million dollar cost some ship with two seats,
some European ship. So I see your Swiss because to me,
Elder Bards like, oh my god, he's like a dog. Right,
So I said, Swiss, I needed you to pick up

(01:04:40):
elder bars, maybe a block away and just pull up
in front of the ship with the Swiss was coming
with the foe. He came with the four million you know,
he got ship this side of the square. So Swiss
was like, all right, So Elder Boss never got all
that fucking plane.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
You know what I'm saying. I was hurt. You want
me to do for one day? He's in New York
He's like, Yo, Joe, I'm here. I'm like here here,
It's like, yo, want me here. I was like, all right,
pull up with me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
We did a Madison squid guard for uh Dave Chappelle
and I brought out held the bards and body.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
And like, yeah, this ship went crazy. That was a
dream come true. You too, man, When you can't do,
we wish you much love and success.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I know everything's gonna be sold out, and it's gonna
lead to the bigger bag because then we're gonna start
like making it even bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
We got guys, we can make it even bigger after
this run.

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
No, no, I mean you know, just you know, because.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
You're running, you're driving the call. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Once this is totally successful, you bring two or three
other people, then they go from.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
The theater to the arena. Right yep. That's what I'm
telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
If you're gonna bring a little too clip legends that
we love, it's gonna come sing that ship. You know
this guy Jodasy Man, he be this skinny he singing
fucking ass off man.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
Jodah, what's my man?

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
No, No, Jodasy Yeah, but can't see right, I see
the mother fucking no shirt on. They carry him through
the fucking order y'all. Like, I'm just telling you, it's
too many legends that y'all can incorporate with this on
the way out, I love it. Let me tell you something,
y'all deserve all the blessings you know, y'all keep it classy,

(01:06:38):
y'all keeping great.

Speaker 8 (01:06:39):
Make sure I get your tickets.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Man, room twelve to a room, the room one twelve
to twelve. It's too easy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
We got we got the one twelve total case. Yes,
Brandy and Monica. I'm waiting for that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
It's a fly show. You saw it already. Came back
into rehearsal like what.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
He was striving for real, right exactly, was like energy
from snapped in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Yeah Monica is a friend. Oh yeah really four to
nobody believe me, no more. Monica's a friends shout out
and my brother.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
They don't want to believe fact. Joe know nobody. You
think he only know everybody? Right, she's a friend. They
were hurst very long. Yeah, no, I got some friends I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Do, and so they were hurt. I'm going to that ship,
you have to. I told him I'm one billion. I'm
also going to go to the Boys to Man Tony
Braxton new edition.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Yeah, that's about to be crazy. Man, it's the only
show I miss. Oh you got to go to that.
We around got it anywhere, Like, you can't miss it.
That's history, that's hissue.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
How could you miss that ship?

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
You can't miss boyster Man?

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, Tony Braxton, Tony, I'm like the boy's
the man that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Everything of this is incredible, But I like that ship,
he said, you know, he moved on, He moved on.
Oh yeah, what's that song?

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
Without you in my life? Yeah, I'm doing I'm doing
just fine.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
I'm how you I'm doing just fine. Don't worry about me.

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
I'm doing Yeah. Now I'm in front now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
All that first boy Man? Yeah, the Boys got Kettle.

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
Yeah, if we could, we could take one of the
songs like water runs drive for me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
You know what I'm saying? Good Lord? Which one water? What? What?
What's weeeling you're talking? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
You know, I'm the rolls in my mother, He's Joe
Bullship rn B sick.

Speaker 8 (01:09:09):
Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
I didn't had the rolls in my mouth. We don't
even talk.

Speaker 11 (01:09:17):
The rn B ry You did the R and b
handwrap shit let's broddy LaBelle used to kick her shoes off,
acting a fool like like disgusted.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Number one of your man Luther? Who's my favorite? Sing?
He had that ship? Would have might go there?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
He walked by. I'll be up the deck.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
He just small.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
I'm like, I'm up a deck with a three piece
suit on, looking like a bus driver.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
I ain't need.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Everybody, I ain't had no money. Then you know when
you're sky blue shirt? You know are you driving the bus? Mean?

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Shit?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Are different a galaxy? Shout out to the whole. You
guys do us a service. Guys make us happy. Some
people going through depressions, some people going through whatever. I
was about to tell you early it was you even fat.
Y'all give up the turkey dinner for tickets to total
one twelve, brot. I got to see my people, man,

(01:10:35):
when they come through. I got to be there. I'm
a fan of the music. I don't want to miss it. Dang,
I don't want to miss y'all better go out them tickets.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
I appreciated, Thank you. Should I change.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Up because they on their first ship, I might have
to go bring out the grizzly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
You see what these ladies do. No, No, I pull
the ship out that shit stand by self. Hey man,
dress got the lion breathing, still doing that ship. I
got premeditated murders. I promise you I'm not threatening.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Lightly. Don't fuck with me because I come up on
there and be like, so god, man, we got we
might have had to come floating sty giving the mic.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
We might have given the mic. Man, You know what
I'm saying, where to come out here?

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
You know I should did that ship to me? He
made me perform the greatest hits. Man, I'm scared to
go to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
She said, co Joe go, I said, God damn song
number ten, Holy ship. But listen, we love y'all. This
ain't that. Ain't this cracking kiss? Takes some noise for
one twelve and told y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Need you take its mainke?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Sure you stay updated to the row one twelfth talk
coming to a city. What happened when you see these
young kids wearing vances and all that ship and you
wore that ship back then, come on, man, they come
starting on us like they got some new ship. I'll
be like my na I had the ship on I
don't know what the fuck y'all talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:12:21):
Ship.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
My ship is, yo, bro, we wore that ship.

Speaker 9 (01:12:25):
They think it's they ship, sir, Thank you for having
that