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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, listen.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
The ain't no different than this show Hall gol s
mon Goalie and he's walking through.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up boss? They looking like we made a bus steak.
We recruit this letter. He was like, shit, do they
let him go? And you let them go?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
But Biggie Small's to this day, his flows his cadence.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I help get the song together with him and Bone
Thugs in Harmony. That's another album. Look up the first
Bone Thugs in Harmony. First album sold thirty million records.
He's nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
For the love of money.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Gotta get that money, baby, money, baby, gotta get that money.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Let me tell you some boys. It's my uncle Georgia.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Call him George ms my uncle Georgia, Uncle Charles, George.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Ms Buncle George at yo, Uncle George.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know yo, listen now you know George. You know
how you go to the Hey meeting and be like, Hi,
I'm Joe, I'm an alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's like, Hi, I'm fat, Joe, I'm a fuck up,
I'm a bug out. I change all the words. That's
why we're gonna have a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Rich. We put it back Rich toward back to me.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
You can't even memorize my own robs, So imagine memorizing
your rhymes just somebody else when I fuck everybody ship up.
But I got that bone and Biggie done. Biggie hit
me up, said Joe, I want to rock with your man's.
I know that your man's be on the same label.
I'm hanging out with them every day. Then he had
a relationship with Bob. I had to really really convince them,

(02:12):
and I know to this day they're happy. I convinced
them and Steve Lobell brought them to the studio.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
The rest is history. With that bone in Biggie Biggie.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Bone it and nobody in New York was thinking about
am in dangerous, ain't too Minny, can't bang with us?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Sing up?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
We know ain'tel us and Torios, so go be with
you know who this Nobody was thinking about that flow
at that time.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well he did it. It was like, you know, big
with somebody that is like you.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mean, damn man, we got a big this thing
right over there. Yeah, something saluted man. Biggie was like
you in the very way of you never.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Said a whack verse.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
So every time Biggie klar ryme on one twelve. He
could rhyme on fucking a girl's TLC shit whatever, it
ain't not anything that we would listen to him. We
would listen to the new verse and be like, Damn,
Biggie did it again. He was super nice. He did
this and this and that. It was crazy. You know

(03:16):
what I'm saying, b I g that ready to die.
That ship to this day is one of my favorite
uh you know what I mean? For the Slaves since
for the same and the two Yo Biggie. I have
my homies total bust of shit. Every record. It wasn't
just total. I don't know if it was a fan,
but as a rapper, every verse similar to you, every

(03:41):
verse Biggie ever spit, we would analyze it immediately be like, Yo,
he did this song with total you know everything. You
be like, damn body that ship again. It's not easy
to body every single verse. You know Jadi Kish you
know he's really good at that. You know what I'm

(04:03):
saying here, We be listening for every verse like, oh shit,
Jenna's gonna spit that ship right now, Jo Neo, I
gotta keep it real with you, right because lately being
there we're podcasters now It's crazy because all the artists,
not you, but all the artists seemed to come in

(04:24):
here and don't want to talk about what everybody want
to hear them talk about out there. You got four wives,
what kind of pressure.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Do you buy? Is it like Muslim?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Do you gotta buy the same bag for the same
Like you know what mine is mine?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
You definitely gotta have a bag that have four wives
you have?

Speaker 6 (04:47):
I mean what okay, it's there's a mindset that the
woman has to have in order to be able to share. Man,
you know what I'm saying, Like, it's literally gotta she
literally gotta think that different way.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
If you got four women that want breaking bags, you
got the wrong for it.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
So they got a different mentality. It's it's community is family.
It's just like everybody doing something. It's like it's like
a village where everybody do something. Everybody got a job,
you know what I mean. If you're the only person
taking care of everything you do, that's not how supposed
to go. Everybody's supposed to kind of pitch in together.
Like I have seven kids on my own, one of

(05:26):
them got a daughter, of them got two kids, and
it's like okay, so I don't have seven kids. I
got nine kids, and that's fine because we all come together,
like this one's washing dishes, this one changing diapers.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
If it need be, this one doing that, everybody does you.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
Think it's a traditional way? Yeah, I gotta did you
have to do how did you? How did you did
you have to do an interview? How the hell did
you know? How did you do this? Just with you
on tour? Just like all right, she could be part
of the family. She could be like, how did you
do it? How did you do it?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Full time? So okay.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
So after my after my divorce, my very public, very
ugly divorce, I I realized that just through being dishonest,
I heard a lot of people. I heard I heard
a lot of people, and I decided at that moment,
I don't never want to be a reason nobody show like.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
So from that moment, I was like, I'm gonna just
keep it a.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Buck with everybody about everything being good, bad, ugly, whatever,
I'm gonna keep it a buck. I don't ask me
if the dress make you look fat, if you don't
really want to hear the answer, because I'm gonna tell
you straight up right. So one of the ones that
I've been around a little longer than the other ones.
So I basically just set it down, like, listen, if
you know I rock with you, we've been rocking for
for forever. Do this through that we've been rocking. I

(06:44):
love you, I do, but it ain't just you. I'm
also rocking with this one and this one.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So nan could love more than one more than absolutely absolutely,
I wanted to say, I'm throwing you out. This motherfucker'll
tell you let them out, said the fucking question.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
You ain't got full? What you ain't got full? Man?

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Co see somebody interrupt and then tell you to be quiet.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're like, you can love more than you can love
more than one woman. This is the ship. Men won't
say married. Man won't not say that. This is this ship.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Men won't say they can't because because you got more.
So that's how it goes. And what do we call
that in America? Like it's it's it's polygamy.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
It's polyamory is they're not married, it's polygamy if you're married,
And polygamy is illegal in a lot of America.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So it's poll. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
A lot of a lot of pig horsepower and they listen.
First of all me, I'm abused. I'm abused, like I'm
lyrically abused. Some of my friends come to the house.
They fucking they gonna light candles for me, Like I'm
sitting there like our Bundy God, and I'm like, watch

(07:56):
the TV. It's very hard to get me upset. But
for them doing that ship at the same time. But
he don't happen like that.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
It don't happen like that because I'm I'm very, very
very adamant about drawing the line and the saying. It's like, listen,
I'm gonna hear you out. I'm gonna let you say
what it is you need to say. But once we
started going here, you lost me anyway, so you might
as well.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
When I when I was thinking about asking you this question,
I'm thinking, so what you got.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Like a giant bed, like a big fucking giant.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
Last last King, I need Sugar King is like rid
fuck me in the Alaskan King to double together like.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Double King. I only think I heard of California and
something else I heard it. I never heard of it.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Last Joe, Fat Joe deserving the Alaskan King. Oh, fat
Joe deserves in the Alaskan king.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
I guess because you can't buy an Alaska king. You
gotta get made. You gotta you gotta get somebody to
make it. They gonna come in and build yourself.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
They're gonna they're gonna build its like a giant bed. Yes,
what it's about comes to mind. You're an inspiration, Neil,
I like it. We're gonna vicarious sneak through you that
and hope it works out. Everything is good, man, everything

(09:24):
is good again. We we have problems, just like just
like monogous relationships.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
All that ship is real. You're gonna argue over stuff.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
But again, at the end of the day, as long
as you are ahead of household and everybody understands that,
then arguments don't last on. Like you know, I'm gonna again,
let you get it out and let you say what
you gotta say. I'm here you, But once it's done,
it's done.

Speaker 9 (09:42):
We're not good.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
You think a broke man can have four women in
the alasking uh, if you do it the right way,
because again it's not. It's also listen, all women ain't
gonna it's not gonna worry not rocking with that certain
behind a woman she gotta she gotta have a certain
mindset if she's gonna do it, because if she if
she's the kind of woman again that she needs birthday

(10:04):
and all this.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
What's the question? I got two questions? How fall apart?
Because you know how you said you had one that
was with you for a while. What was the difference? No? No, no,
How quick did it take to get the other three
on board?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
It wasn't It didn't take a long time. I kind
of set up at dinner. I told I told her
one that I want you to meet I want you
to meet the other ones. Initially it was just three,
so I told her one that I wanted her to
meet the other two.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I set up the door where the last one come from.

Speaker 10 (10:36):
Ue.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
She's one of my one of my dancers. She's the newest. Yeah, yeah,
she's one of my dancers.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I got a dankham because whenever I did this podcast
without them yesterday and I went crazy and I was like, damn,
where is my man when I need him to say
chill relaxed, because he's the calm.

Speaker 11 (10:57):
Beat we'll get jass So honey.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yes, he's like he's like chilled with lunch yesterday. I'm
up in the years. So what he was like, Yo,
nig you know they came with five. You know this,
I'm like, I walked out of it in my home.
The crazy guy the face he thoughts, we call him
that mess me. They won't with me, like, yo, change
this referee.

Speaker 11 (11:18):
What you was doing?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
We did. We did show yesterday, yesterday. It was great.

Speaker 11 (11:25):
He's living his life. Honey, got three holes.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Four. Guess what this is?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Such thing I asked him, there's an Alaskan king bag, right, what's.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The ship called Lasting King Man?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's alast King he got he's sleep with four.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Let that man gotta fit five.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
People him, four chicks in the in the in the
fucking bag. That's a different kind of bag.

Speaker 11 (11:52):
But what makes you go to be married? What makes
you go from being married to having like four girlfriends?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
But I'm gonna tell you the answer is yeah, guys, no, no, no, no, no,
we not guys. We don't got you know. I'm gonna
tell you. I can't it.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm gonna tell you what the man told me. Okay,
that's a good and it was a good answer.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
He said. I was tired of hurt women.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I was tired of he said on them and stuff
like that to where I was like, fuck it, I'm
gonna let you all know it.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
He four.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Telling them the party said I'm just gonna keep everything
hone and if the dress looks horrible, everything.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
He said, he's not lying no more, and he needs four.
You know, you know it got put in a lot
of work.

Speaker 12 (12:39):
Boy, is that easy? I don't care what you say.
They ain't that easy?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah? How good it? Bro?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I got a door and a wife and I'm dizzy bros.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Away for woman.

Speaker 11 (12:54):
You make it sound like it's easy. That is not easy.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
She'd be like, Fritch play a single my brother Fritz played,
be like, yo, I pray for you se.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
He said, you're you're going.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
To have it?

Speaker 11 (13:06):
How many tsking you you busting a day for them?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
How many?

Speaker 11 (13:11):
Imagine if I don't want to get fucked that day?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
He gotta put it? Could you could? You are we
going back?

Speaker 8 (13:18):
So Dennis that technically putting that on about the album,
I'm a.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Four. Also, you're gonna feel away woman on set with
child because.

Speaker 12 (13:35):
It's making it sound easy and I know it's not easy.
I know it's not easy. And you got four bitches right,
you could buzz like twice a day, polyg.

Speaker 11 (13:45):
If it's four and that's that fun hard. I want
to get fucked.

Speaker 12 (13:49):
But you fucked this bitch and now you can noth
for me now now, now one of the bitches's tight.

Speaker 11 (13:55):
So you ain't telling me it's not easy. You're not
telling me that ship is not easy for real? That asked.

Speaker 12 (14:03):
Listen, just the type of way you fuck this bitch
in the morning. You can up for me in the
afternoon and I need the now. But but you can't
fuck me because this are you? That shit makes you
want to argue.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
That will give me tight and you as a female saying,
don't go for that. It's gotta be turbulent. Stick to
what man that she's saying, some real ship. We want
to know what the women think, the woman to know
what we think.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Want with Neil would have been a good one. She
got you got this guy crushed like, oh, but that's
real ship. I didn't get into that right like that.

Speaker 11 (14:56):
I know they be arguing I want to know, no
want to know.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
But right before you I was about to release the
album something happened with Dev Jim and y'all got about it. Yeah,
how serious it is to be able to do what
you want to do, and ownership and the bullshit and
the politics and the business that have to being in
something so long you still have to go.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Through the politics. The politics and the business never stops.
I think that's the rule. I think that's the biggest
takeaway from us. You know what I'm saying. We ain't
been out in fifteen years and it's still the same thing.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Still most anybody with some type of business mind you
you can love you can love rap like we love it,
be passionate about it, but it's something with the business
side that always discouraged.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Right, that's discourage. You just want to do other things sometimes.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
Basically, we had the album, had the album, put the
album together, so on and so forth, and you know,
they got we turned it in and we turned it
in with the Kendrick verse, and they didn't want to
put it out. They didn't want to put it out basically,
they didn't what I feel like, they didn't like the
optics while they were going through their lawsuit of you know,

(16:21):
the clips Kendrick together on the song you know coming
out under UMG. With the lawsuit they got going on
so on and so forth. So ended up having.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
A basically y'all got caught in the two eleven triple
cross that.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Basically, yeah, because you know, it wasn't even on that
type of time, So it was you know, just you know,
so so, and we ended up having a buy al
way out of the situation. It gets a little tricky
because we had one album deal the Clips did and
then you know, I was signed there as well, so

(16:57):
you can just you know, couldn't just leave without me,
you know what I'm saying, And so we had to
figure it out, and here we are, Frognation.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was in the position to buy yourself shut out
the whole man.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
Yeah, definitely shout out the whole man.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Rock Nation, Procknation for sure. Yeah. Man, you know, just
it's whatever, man. You know, we roll with the punches, bro,
like that's what it is we do. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
I always got the faith in the music, man. The
faith is always in the music. Like we always know
that ship gonna be right. So that's you know what
I'm saying, that's what we believe in, right.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Definitely. Uh, you got a tour coming up. I think
I've seen.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
All the third tenth twenty five dates of just Back
to Back.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Man, they sent me a tool bust.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
The other day, I'm like, whoa, Like what last time
you seen shod life?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
We don't need that.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I was like, man, yo, yo, we used to live
on the bus. Now it's like a bus.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
But they send me the But to us, you gotta sweet,
you gotta sweet and rod with all these people, I'm.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Like, tell you, you know, I want to be around
all these people.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, I turned down towards man, my knees ain't the
sent I like what two months? Keep like like, you know,
I don't think I could do it. Like I'm real
with you, you know, I do. I work on the
week right now. I'm gone, Like I go every weekend.
But to do the tour thing every day, bringing the

(18:36):
noise every day every city, I haven't done that in
a long time. Be I don't know if I want
that opportunity.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm keeping it real.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
And for us, you know, I guess with us just
being away for so long, it's like it's it's the
highlight to get back in front of the in front
of the fans, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So we'll sacrifice that waiting for you to you know, now,
I love it, Yeah, supposed the ways I love it.
I love it. So listen, I go see kids every
time he pull up with one finger. Bro, you're not
built like a man in this time.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
And there is a lot of young dudes that look
older than everybody on his couch from this.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Whether we all don't want to take the role model stance,
but we are so you know, God's prior to us.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know, they they they fucked up with drugs and
all types of ship like that, and it was really hard.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
We we We've always loved them for the integrity of
the music and what they played for the game.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
But these young kids, they looking at us.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
There's a young kid right now, popping twenty five or
something who's probably looking at the ship like, yo, my
OG's look good.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
That means I could look right. I could be right
in the future your I could do right. And that's
that's a moral obligation that we don't accept.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
But we really do.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Except yeah, you know, and and I could see that
you're doing. We're pushing forward the right way. So the
young brothers and sisters see us and and uh and
know they could get to the promised land. I got
a five year old, two man, so I gotta be.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Get loose from you in the park. Yeah, you can't
reade he can get out of there. Yeah, man, how
you feeling about that album? What's the what's the I
see you? At the event had the player for the
DJs playing a couple.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Of sessions with the reception, like Chrisha said, Man, the
faith is in the music.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
You know. What I'm saying is what we believe.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
And once we deliver exactly what it is we want
to do, when it sounds the way exactly the way
we want it to sound, you know, we don't think.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
About nothing else.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
We delivered our part and release it and just you know,
see the acceptance however it comes, it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Be the big the biggest part of a fan, Like
with me, the biggest part of a fan's like, Yo,
what the clips are thinking in twenty twenty five? Like
what they talking about twenty twenty five? You know something, well,
I don't know if you know. Something you get criticized
for is talking that heavy weight? Yeah twenty twenty five? Right, Yeah,

(21:35):
I got guys to be like your man be talking.
I'd be like, yo, let me let me, let me,
let me chime in on that.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
The beautiful thing of coming from where we come from
and talking to talk we talk.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Is the challenge is how can he say what do
you want to say now?

Speaker 5 (21:52):
After having success, having money, be you know, getting married,
at being a family man, still active, still.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Doing this thing and when you're nice. That's the only challenge.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Everybody that keeps saying he's saying the same thing, even
fucking listening, and he just needs something to say because
they gotta keyboard to be honest.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Not only that, what is everybody else saying? What is
everybody else saying?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I agree with you one million percent?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I just came off of vacation saying your pay I
told I was writing on the plane and it.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Just immediately speaks violence. I just don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I'm in the nicest place. Cope, shit is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I got and I'm like when I'm blow the head off,
I just it's like, I don't know if people understand.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Maybe it's my therapy. Maybe that's what I do. You
know what iking it too? I liking it to.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
You know, just having having a You know, first of all,
rap has always come from a very real place, you
know what I'm saying, So it's like.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
For real, for real people. Yeah, it comes from a
very real place.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
So you know, with that being said, and you know,
being in it, you know, twenty three years, I feel
like at this point I liking it too. Uh you know,
only like you know somebody who loves mob movies or
a person you know what I'm saying, person that that's
what they choose to like, you know, I don't. I
don't watch I don't watch horror. I watch A and E.

(23:29):
You know it's it's it's it's scarier, I believe it,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like iking I liking.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
My music to that as well. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Man, you listen, you can't please everybody, but but listen,
twenty three years in this, I'm not trying to please.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Nobody m but myself. Like that's what I that's what
I care about. Like you know, I know that.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
My taste, my ear and what it is that I
want to here that resonates with a certain type of person.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's the type of person I want to talk to.
That's the person I like. Person.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
You know what I'm saying that I know the person
who says that, who said who says like, oh you
know he talked that heavy?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
This and that like, man, I'm sure I don't even
jail with you anyway. I know that I don't like,
I'm flazi, I don't like we don't like you. But
you're not even my type of dude. You not man.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
So I just you know, you know, I take it
with a grain of salt. But you know, more importantly,
I know I know who my fan is.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
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Speaker 2 (26:23):
So I'm more modern, but Jayakin he liked to show
off because you know, I don't you know, I ain't
got no new size my ship.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
He got to be against jadakus though he said a
lot of flash ship. So when he's got up flat.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Got guns that the government ain't got. They did sounding.

Speaker 13 (26:38):
Walls doing three sixties ship you got your Oh my god,
now this is what I was going though.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Shit, Jadakins, you was bad for the longest.

Speaker 13 (26:48):
You mean to tell me that you had a completely
healthy headline and you could have just grew your ship
back at any moment.

Speaker 14 (26:55):
Yeah, it was a plastic That's crazy, bro, That shit crazy.
We are here ball with no options and you just
said it. I'm just gonna grow my ship back washing ship.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Nah?

Speaker 15 (27:07):
You know you don't you disrespectful? We thought I thought
you was bald. You had a paper towel wrapped around your.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Forehead for years. Came out boeheads was in. You know
what I'm saying, the armor, because no, you don't know
about we had. We had turk, we had over there. Man,
everybody you know like you still want to wear hair.
I do still wear hair. I don't look like turkey.

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I'm wearing it. I'm not gonna say that.

Speaker 16 (27:39):
You go.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
What you need? A little bit?

Speaker 17 (27:44):
You to me, I already a little bit. Nah, Noah
to re Tiger, A lot of people did you don't
need need?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I'm not going you don't.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Need whatever they got yet there he's got Sherman helms
ll Ship pushed back, saying there's a solution.

Speaker 15 (28:09):
There's not a solution, not for me, because I seen
what it looked like in the days leading up. I
can't go through that process when the front of your
head looked like.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
You got mean hats, so you gotta get Yeah, you
know you need to do it. I ain't lying to
you because you love your head. You gotta fix that
ship up and say I love it. I just love
the fact that I could do it like he did.
I been I've been ball for half.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I can't gro happened to me.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I used to have here, I used to have here,
like the fucking Brady Bunch. Yeah, we're saying it so
when I was young, all he's telling.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Man with the people at all, Man, you keep let
me tell you.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I had had like the Brady Bunch, but I shaved
it all because all the tough guys had the ball
these hood. My father chased me around the projects four
times trying to beat me up because he knew what
that man catch.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
You couldn't catch me, but I was raised.

Speaker 13 (29:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
The point is one day I made a bet with
Big pun and I was like, he was like, yo, man,
you can't grow. No, I say crazy my ship like
the Brady Bunch. If I want right now, I grow
braids whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
So I try to grow this ship.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
And it was like rest in peace to the headline
everything that ship was coming up like that man Pun
had some jokes about that ship.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I lost it. So I say, my ship.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
But now I got guys that they do the fake
They got like a tattoo ship.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I can't do it ether. Yeah, but you could do
the turkey. I can't do caues. Your real here come back.
Too much money nah nah nah nah. I'm not sure
that's your signature your ship. We came in.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Luch had to yo, Luch had the hard top faith
sp had to blowout, chemical blowout back then.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So like the Jackson five.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
When it was when the dope boys had it, when
it came back in like Matthew Man and Okay got
you so boom, when we got the deal, they still
had it. I went ball first. Then I made a thing.
When y'all should fall out, I'm gonna come back. And yeah,
I just kept my word and came back.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
God bless you, brother, because if I had here my ship.
They're calling me all my ship, my ship to be redutiful.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
You gotta go that time. Guy, Do not want it? Yes,
you do, because I see how you look on the
front of listenip be with del fault.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Now that's the look you make when you own that ship,
saying I was like, right, my ship. I had my
ship to be like this, the curl with the fucking
juice and all that shit on my shit.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
So let this.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Respect shout out to Julie and Jesse, Jesse Torrero. He
got the ship with the curl like they would think.
I ain't fat Joe. I'll be fat Joe's twining.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Some shit for some I would really be on.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Support if I had.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
This week it hit by the history, y'all.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
May nineteenth Man DMX dropped in nineteen ninety eight The Dog.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Always Love for the Dog.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Nineteen ninety eight, he dropped his debut album, It's Dark
and Hell's Eye.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
The importance of that album to me is that you know,
he put us on.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
He came and got us, put us, bought us with
rough riders, told him this is we're starting it off,
like you know, this is who I want to represent
with me, and the rest was history to see where
we came from, to see where he came from. He
was already then there like Bruce Springsteen, and Yo, we

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already looked at him as like a rock star. Then
fast forward him being the only one of the only
rappers that ever do Woodstock. That shit is crazy, you
know what I mean? That video lot Well forever mean
the world to me because you know what I mean,
he gave me a chance to change my family's financial situation.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
DMX stuck a guy up right in front of me. Yeah,
Max stuck a lot of niggas m Max. No, but
he was already a star.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
He was X.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yes, just met him and pun in the gas station
in Brooklyn after a show, thousands of people. After the show,
we in the gas station. Dude comes with some change.
The DMX was like, y'all, hold up, y'all. He went
and took his chains, came back and started talking to
us in the gas station. Yo, DMX, he can't even die.

(32:58):
He did so No, no, no, he done, he did not.
I'm just telling you a true story, like I got
so many have.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
We gotta filter some of these stories. I'm telling you
you might have incredible I'm not.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Telling you none of them. Cut the crazy since we go,
I gotta give a story. Look when we shot the
John Blade video, DN Max should up no listen, this
is how long ago it was, and this how crazy
this was. Stash boxes first got invented. He wanted to
test his ship.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Was more before that. Forget it was in the eighties
we had stash It.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Wasn't It wasn't doing what the ships was doing as
the as a technology. He wanted to test his own
ship out. He drove somebody was driving. He was in
the passenger, let off a four I don't know what
it was and wanted to get pulled. Ain't got pulled over,

(34:02):
and I said, this nigga's nuts though.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
He is nuts. He put it in the sash.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yeah, let he in front of the cops. Let it off,
pull a block of dude, pull over.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Know what you talk about this? And they ain't have
the ship to make it pop out yet, so he was.
I said, this, nigga pun is crazy. I just had
to bend the way to explain it.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
The way to explain it to you, babe, is you
know how somebody could be a genius in something and
then in just common sense he just don't know what
he's like. I would go to his house right and
he would have about thirty forty guns in his house.
If you sat and the pillow was a gun, you

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put your hand on the chicken, it was a gun,
you hit it, it was just And I would sit
there because I really came from the streets.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I know what Rico and Dightsman thought. Indictments are.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I know what on this says.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I don't came from him. I mean, like, they're gonna
make a jail jest for you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Nah, they don't lock.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Rappers up like that.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
They got swimming pools for rappers and all that tennis courts.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I'm like, yo, he's.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Thinking about the futuristic feds.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
What And I would tell him, like, yo, Pun, your
crazy bro. Then I go around his hood and the
cops pulled me over like this. Prom one of the
only rappers who never moved out the hood. Even ntil
he died, he refused to move out the hood. I
was already in Jersey, Like, yo, come in Jersey. Birds
are chirping.

Speaker 15 (35:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
He now I'm in the hood. I'm the realistic pun
at the crib in the hood. Tien Benz's exotic twenty
thousand dollars, dogs and all types of shit like he
was big fun, double platinum in the He didn't care,
and so I would go to his hood and as
a respected elder brother, the police pulled me over. So

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I'm like, your officer, while you putting your old man,
you know that you gotta stop throwing aggs at the
old ladies in front of the supermarket. You know, we
know he's the only guy with the bends with the
water gun shooting the old ladies.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I'm like, Yo, I go in this.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
House, I start arguing with everybody in the house, like
your punt. They're gonna put you in jail. You shooting
the water guns at the old ladies. They know, the
only guy with a five hundred bends in the fucking
sound view.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's your punt. You're going now. He just didn't he
he uh.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
He would go real from genius to common sense, no sense.
Like I had a real struggle with him and Nori
because Nory's also my little brother.

Speaker 8 (36:47):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
They used to see me and be like, yo, Joe's
the fun killer. He's the fun killer.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
No, I don't want you to go to jail and
not get to the bad ack like, I know what's
going on out here. You guys are too crazy. They
gave us a sign. I don't know who's controlling your time,
but hold up. So he only got five minutes. Mama,
come over here. I want you to sit on the couch.

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Make this ship legend.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Debby.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
You know what I'm saying, said.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Sit damn Mama. You know we love you.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
How proud are you to be brother Chuck's moms and
his journey in life, you know, with Bubba Chuck and
all the success and how you see him come around
as a man. It's important because you're the first mother
athletes mother that we all fell in love with.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
We love you braiding his hand in the middle of
the court, and you gotta stop you with that. That's
not me.

Speaker 16 (37:46):
I braided his hair. That's why the first he's supposed to, oh,
I braided. I braided his head for all the when
he first wanted his hair braided. Now, I did breik
his hair, but his head was coming loose in the back,
and he was worried about his you know, he liked
to be fly. He was worried about his hair coming
to loose. So you know, my sister called me and

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she was like, and he keep on telling me and
looking at me, and I don't know how to breathe here.
And I was like, but all you gotta do is
just braatest hair. You're braiding just the back of it.
And so when I got there, I saw my.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Son that cap running off, is rubbing off on it?

Speaker 5 (38:23):
If it is cap is rubbing off, Mommy got yeah,
because mommy got about over there.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Mommy got his flat, Mommy got the story off. It
is what it is. I got to be authentic. You
taught me to be that way. But you know what
I mean. It didn't go down.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
It didn't go down.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
And then he over there called him, now, I'm bubba chuck.
Why are you talking to mommy?

Speaker 10 (38:44):
Now?

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Now I go to my first I was Ai now
turning the bubble chuck when he talking to mommy.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
But it didn't.

Speaker 18 (38:50):
It ain't.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
It ain't happened like that.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Well but you you you I got my version, you
got your version.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, okay, So all of a sudden, you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Your son, hey, you know my moms ain't here, man,
So we want to hear it. You know, you know,
how proud are you of your son?

Speaker 8 (39:06):
Man?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
In all his accomplishments and how he inspired generations and people.

Speaker 16 (39:11):
First of all, I was proud of him from the
first day I saw him, you know, because back then, yeah,
back then, back then, when you have a baby, and
I was so young, like he said, so you know,
I had to have him Cincerian birth, and I was
sleep so when I came when I woke up in recovery,

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and they brought me to it, brought him to me,
and I was like, he's so light, and you know
what I'm saying. But when he opened his eyes and
he looked at me, and I saw my eyes looking
back at me, I said, oh, yeah, that's my baby,
you know. And I checked everything on him. I checked
everything on him. But what really blew my mind is,
first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team
because I got pregnant with him. But what blew my

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mind was his hands and his arms. His arm was
past his kneecap when I laid him out like that,
they were wave past his kneecap. And I was like,
I got a baller, and I was happy. I was happy,
and so I told my family, I told my whole family.
I was like, you know, I got a baller, So
everybody was like looking at me like I was simple whatever.

(40:16):
But the thing is, from that point on he came
in my life and he was the perfect child. He
was not hard headed. He would listen to everything I said,
and he loved the daylights out of me. And at
that point I needed love because of the fact that
my mom had died at twenty nine years old. Malpractice.

(40:40):
But anyways, the Iris since said center to Virginia and
they that's the best thing they could have done for me.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
And when I had him, when I was.

Speaker 16 (40:48):
Carrying him, I was pregnant, playing ball in a heart
for Connecticut, and I went from there to Bethel High
School playing ball, and he had a favorite cheer and
his cheery, yeah, it was a favorite cheer. And it
used to be no, no, It used to be everybody

(41:10):
be on the court and we were we're halftime, and
then they had everybody else saying go brew his goal
and everybody will shut up and he'll say, shake that thing, sho.
So that's that's my story. But Fire is proud. I
want to tell you something that he said to me

(41:31):
this year. I said, Baba, I said, you know, I
am so proud of you. I said, you just make
me so proud. I'm proud of you. I just wanted
to express that to him so he'll know it from
my all right, Yeah, and he said I'm not finished.
He said, I'm not finished making.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
You pro and that's what he's been doing. But that
being said, this ain't that. Ain't there?

Speaker 5 (41:58):
It's cracking. Kiss ga't some noise? I guess Ai and
Fama love.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
How does it feel to be on again this book
and be one of the biggest female superstars with the
most longevity and relevancy in the game.

Speaker 19 (42:24):
I mean, honestly, it's a blessing. I'm super super humbled
And it's funny when you talk about that. Remember, I
didn't know what none of that meant. You know what
I'm saying, I'm a.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
New amazing for you. Yes, everybody's happy, and I'm looking
at like, well, is that good? Five hundred thousand? Is
that a good number? You know what I'm saying. I've
genuinely had no idea it was a good number.

Speaker 19 (42:49):
So I was just like super appreciative and to be
able to be here today and still as we both
were in an arena in London to a sold out
twenty thousand seas to holding a mic out. Allowing people
to sing on records is a blessing, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
So I'm just so happy. I'm grateful. You know, man,
you know we're very competitive in our house.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh because you know we didn't. He's the baby got
all last the day ago that she throws like my
debut did that?

Speaker 9 (43:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
No, don't you did a No, you did a half
the something else you say.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
To the I don't know if you're not the video Yeah, okay,
thirty three, Oh Jada, that was twenty six thirty.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
That wasn't hold up Jada, that video come out. That
was not we That was not freaking the numbers of
turmailiare solely. That wasn't the you don't sting you week,
not talking about the week.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Let me run down the hardware that they got.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
There's a lot of hardware. Just listen, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Nelly three Grammys, four American Music Awards, two b T Awards,
nine Billboard Awards. Nelly has sold over twenty one million
albums in the United States. One of the best selling
rap artists in American history. Country graandmar Diamond ten million.

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Nellyville Diamond Plus won eleven million a shot the one Grammy,
two American Music Awards, six Ashcap Awards, eight Billboard Awards.
First Debut Album, five hundred Plot, five hundred thousand of
First Week, Triple Platinum, Chapter two Platinum, Concrete Rolls Platinum.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Thirty six Christmas Movies Lifetime Favorite.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I have a Christmas I've been calling your money forever.
It's competitive. In in a Star, in a Star start,
I can't get the I can't forget the star. Yeah,

(45:35):
it gets real. And that we love that though, Yeah,
we love that's beautiful. I made it to put that under.
We take something. I met a shanty. It's a blessing.
Could we can I talk about that? Talk about it?
But I love a shanty.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Sh shanty was like the studio. We would just a
studio body.

Speaker 19 (45:56):
You could call it a studio rat.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
That's what they used to say. That's what I'm saying that.
But I'm just saying that man, studio body. She up
in there.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
And the first day I met her, she was so
upset because they broke into her car and stole her radio.
This woman was ready to foul charges to the moon
and back whatever it just stole my radio.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Crockjead broke them. I mean it was like somebody might
a somebody that ship. I'm like, the stole the radio
with the Fenzy bot you take the ba.

Speaker 9 (46:34):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
They stole her ship. And she was like radio and
you know, I would see her in the studio. And
then one day I asked him, I said, Yo, what
does the girl do right? Because they was like gangster
rappers right something. She sings R and B right, and
then she did the big punt. I said, I said,
you want to write a hook for the big punt thing?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
And she killed it. Smoke that joint. She smoke that
joint and then we did the and then after that
it was the Princess of and she Yo, no talk
every time I see this, he was advocating when we
weren't together, Nelly, what are you doing? Every time I

(47:20):
see him?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Kiss Nelly, my god, how you been?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yeah? That's greats What are you do? You know? How
you telling me? At first he thought I was bugging out.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Now I used to be like Joe, it's crazy, right
because I also think of one situation. Not to bring
up anything negative because we just but I remember the
time I got into it with fifty cent, who your
fifth was up. We performed in Germany in two days.
But I remember the time when I got into it
with him at.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
The MTV Awards.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
You know, it's business is really crazy, right because you
think everybody your man, everybody this.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
And this and that.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
When you was the only person and all the rappers
that I knew that I seen get.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Up and you you were telling me y'all got you
like I'm holding you down in that set when I
was like, yoll, fifty said this and then he came
back and dis me, but you had my back. Well
I knew five five. Me and five always had a
great relationship, and that kind of just started.

Speaker 19 (48:27):
Well, no, because and just to tell, where was we
at m That's why I thought he was going.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
We were at the MTV Awards and they were sitting
like a table right behind us.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Now, I didn't have too much to drink. I'm a hype.
This is right before Kid rock slept.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
He set the ship out of Tommy Lee. So there
was something before Chris Rocken was sitting table right right.
Know that Kid rockets sitting with us and Tommy Lee
is like a table over.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
And my cat kid Rock, that's my cat too. He hot,
he hot his fish grease. He's sitting right there. He's
like cool and I'm gassing. He's not going to go. Well,
I'm not not gassing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I'm like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
So he does what he does, So what he's smack
because m TV Awards out and man, we were saying
right next to him, we're sitting at the table. But
but five was here, right, so I'm hype. I didn't
got hype. I didn't got big. I said, babe, fish.

Speaker 9 (49:45):
I'll make that.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
You want me to go over there? Don't look you
want She was not no way in my heart. And
I'm thinking she's gonna tell me to go over there.

Speaker 19 (49:56):
She's like, yeah, babe, yep yep, said.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
So just I'm like I'm going.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
So when I turned around, she can't see my face.
I'm walking towards five, like let me you know, table
full of g units.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh god, this right,
this is not gonna go well, you know what I'm saying.
And I started laughing, covering. He cracked.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
He cracked a smile, and I was like, fine, man, man,
do me a favor, Do me a favor, will you,
old lady man, do me a favor?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Man, apologize for it?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Man shot to you, I'm sorry, he said.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Whole crowd, And I was like, I turned her talking
about by the way I had personally that twenty meetings
with him over her.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Oh my god, yes, even knowing I didn't have sat
down with him twenty different times. It's like, yo, bro,
she got nothing, like you know, that's my sister, you
bugging out this, this, this twenty Yeah you told me
to I know she got nothing to do with the more,
but what you want me to do is war man.

Speaker 19 (51:21):
It's like I was hot, Yeah, you was hot over that, right, Yeah,
I ain't have nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
And then what do you after you said? He signs
like yai. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (51:33):
I was like, okay, it's two moments in my life
in my career that I can cite you for and
just want to say thank you.

Speaker 9 (51:45):
Brothers, Like you don't know what it meant to me.
One was you putting me in the video and your
video and.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Is the key n hell?

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Man, Like you know, pictures come out like once a year.
It's a picture. It's like it's gonna be here forever.

Speaker 9 (52:01):
I love that man.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
We was kids in the arm but you pulled up
to the Bronx and.

Speaker 13 (52:06):
I missed some note that meant something because let him
get in coming from Chicago.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Man.

Speaker 13 (52:12):
One of the things we wanted was just to be
heard by New York and for you to be like yo,
even though he was on the same label. If you
if you thought I was on some weak ship, you've
been like, uh.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Beloved and all for love it. I'm gonna tell you
the second one.

Speaker 9 (52:36):
Well, the second one we didn't talked about a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Man.

Speaker 13 (52:40):
You practically saved my life. Get there on the flag, yo, Yo,
that man really saved my life. Like I was on
the West Coast with my guy, one of my guys
I knew through one of my close homies, but he

(53:01):
was my guy and he just wasn't happy with the
whole situation, the whole ice q mac tan beef that
we had told him we had squashed it, were doing it.
We were sitting there doing a commercial. This was the
most money I was getting paid ever for something at
that point in time, right, So we at peace were like, yo,
things is good. Everybody was like, God, just be from Chicago.
We just couldn't hold it. He couldn't hold it, so

(53:22):
he started ruffling shit, and man, it just got a
little heated.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And I want to say dead. It's not because Fat
Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally begged for your life.
I literally got in the middle, was like please, he's
my friend, he's my brother, you know he you know,
some people take things personal. And they finally saw him
and he was on there saw you, and they was

(53:49):
talking crazy and I was like, no way, this guy.
I said, this is literally my brother. And I was
begging them because it was the serious one. I was like, please,
this is my brother, Joe. You know we've been we've
been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't.

(54:11):
I just couldn't do I just see And basically I
stood in the middle like please, guys like I cannot
do it.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
But they they set up. It was over after that day.

Speaker 13 (54:21):
Right after that day, but you settled that like like
I'm like, man, we are on we in California. Don't
start nothing, my homie already, because they already, like you said,
they already wanted to piece on me no matter what.

Speaker 9 (54:33):
Because so my guy out there, he just he's just
going off. Anyway. I knew Joe. I ain't even hit it,
but I ain't know everything he did.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
But oh no he did.

Speaker 9 (54:43):
I knew it was him. They said, Yo, this can't happen.
And because he had a you know relation.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Super relations still my brother and yeah, shout out to.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
My family, brother Leo. Family was good.

Speaker 13 (54:57):
That's when Fat Joe the gangster, I was like this
this thing is because he's straight up, was like he
can't do that till my man, it was like like
one of the movies was talking about good family.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
He once again, I begged him. I was in there,
mercy and I was just like, please, this is my brother,
this is my family. I did that one time for
Rich playing my best friend. One time they was about
to do it and not saying rich and I mean
real deal. Well he was getting into it with a
seven headed monthster guy who who just kills he's in

(55:31):
jail for too many bodies. And I had to jump
in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo, I can't.
It's like yo, fat boy, get out the way. I
was like, oh no, I can't.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
This is my family. I can't. I knew what it meant,
the real deal. And this other guy's you know, Jeffrey Donald,
and I'm and I'm a monster, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Sitting there like, yo, listen, please let me get in.
I said, no, knock him, knock him that y'all had
he yet up there?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
But they go, But they go. The man go because
the first argument I ever had with him.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Right, he goes the next day to rich and they
had blocked on Cyphus and says, if Joe got in
the middle, that means you're good guys, let's become friends.
And they wound up being best friends. My man is
still in jail thirty seven years. But he went the
next day. He took it on himself, as said, if
fat Joe threw himself in the middle, trying to squash it,

(56:30):
these guys gotta be good guys. And it was all over,
you know, staring at each other in the club and
a couple of girls. And you know, these guys they
kill each other over girls. These gangsters. Man, a lot
of gangsters in jail killing over girls. I'm telling you,
I had a guy. This guy was a meaning. He's
still in jail too, forty years. Right, he was mean

(56:53):
looking scared straight.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
No, no, because no, A lot of wars have come
over for women, most of them.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yo, But listen this guy. All I'm gonna say to
you is this was a mass murder. He's still in
jail forty years. He would come to the club and
he go, he's Puerto Rican. He'd be like I, and
I'd be like, yo, said I. The nanna he's talking about.
His wife was badd as ship to her, she was
fucking dudes like she was loose. So he come on then, Nah,

(57:28):
you know Jimbo from the barber shop.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Oh yeah, he was with the net with everybody. If
it's ten God, not Jimbo. He didn't yes with the net. Net.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Jimbo won't be awaund the two more days like he
would come all of one time. I argue with the
niggas like I said, No, I don't want to hear
that ship. You're a fucking liar. She's the most decent
girl in the world. She didn't do it, Yes, and
everybody knew what that was. Somebody he was disappearing over

(58:02):
then then No, No, I know maniacts like that man,
But you know, common man.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
You're the beloved of ball beloved. Let's keep it peace, man.
I got I said, you know what I said? I
didn't you see what mostly what's that like spoken sage
and something? It was boosted protect us for that story.

Speaker 13 (58:23):
It's similar to say it's Polo Santo, it's Palosanto.

Speaker 9 (58:26):
You know it come from the trees down in Chili,
bringing the good energy, bringing the good energy, move negative energy.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I never really brag about jail because I only did
four months. I got friends that did twenty thirty, forty years.
But last night I get four. Uh, I only did
four eight and that's a lot out the window at
the bus stop. What I know you was at County
so you had black coffee blooney saying WI ship like that.

(59:00):
I have grand guess fell up with kool aid. Tell
you something I did two inviteedments. I gotta explain this
to you. I did time in the fads, don't and
there's two You know, I'm thinking b shoes.

Speaker 9 (59:13):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I'm just thinking. Right.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I grew up in the projects, right, and this this
grass in the middle of all the project buildings. We
got big project buildings. Every building's fourteen floor on hundred
and forty five apartments, counted all the doors, right, everybody
will a forty five apartments. You're counted, all the doors counted,

(59:35):
all the doors now and everybody got nine kids. So
this ship is like, you fuck up one guy, you
gotta fight the other brother. You gotta fight Jamie Jonathan.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Crayford till you get fucked up to one of them
found you out.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
You gotta go up the line. Turn the cock diesel, brother,
come out.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Good luck. At least you stood tall. You for them.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
You got what you got your That's where I come from.
Projects is like Gladiator. The point I'm trying to make
this is a big grass in my projects. Everybody has
shootouts there, they have fights. You know, one day I
go up to the roof of my building and I
look at the grass, and I say to myself, was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
This like an experiment?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Because like, if you go up on my roof and
you see the gun battles, in the fights and everything
that happened in the middle of the grass, you sit
up there, it's almost like the coliseum. And so what
I'm getting to is when you go to the fesway
I went, you got two thousand dudes. Jamaican Zeria Nations
Spanish dudes, Black dudes, this cock, these white American dudes.

(01:00:44):
And there's only four tables. I'm just trying to there's
four tables with four chairs. That's sixteen seats, and there's
two thousand guys and it's right in front of the
three TVs. You got the Spanish TV. The blackest god
throw't know English. She looking at the Mommy's in the
Spanish teeth like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
That's like moon though.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
No, no, that shit is like you might as well
call that shit soft porn. Motherfucker looking at that. They
don't gotta know what they talking about. They up in
there like this every day. Right, So you got four tables,
of course I got a table, right, No, not walking
there in ten minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Ten minutes, I say, yo, who sits in them tables?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Homeboy looked at me shucked because a lot of guys
on pussy, they're not really real. Just because you in jail,
you act tough, and you get in jail. I watch
people get smacked, punched in the face and said, my bag.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
And keep walking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
These guys cock, these who playing basketball for nephew. You
don't got to go in there for me to tell you.
The guys you think is tough on your block. I
watch guys get punched in their face and say, my bag,
I'm sorry and walk away.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I never seen no shit like you got the fucking
murder me, Like you just can't do it right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Something up in there. He does that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
I go down to the table. God sitting there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I'm like, yo, my man, get the fuck up. He
don't want to get up. I say, you're my man,
you got to get the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
He got up and he left. So I took the table.
Ten minutes in there, right, sit down, have to jail.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Hated me. A thousand niggas hated me because they was like, oh,
he's not gonna kick freestyles his niggas they here on
his bullshit r. I'm sure everybody rhyme in jail, changing
like everybody want to ride for you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I ain't let one dude ride for me. So I'm
sitting down in the chair.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
They looking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Some of them hate me, some of them don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Who gives a fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Right on, nigga got four months anyway, so I'm willing
to be in the box for the four months. The
point is soon as I figured it out, like I
just needed like a week in there right, because the
first the Feds don't give you comments seven. I don't
give a fuck. I you Donald Trump, it takes you

(01:02:58):
two weeks and I walked in there. Listen, you got
him getting no, I got him get Let me tell you,
I walked in with five thousand dollars cash in my
pocket to put a commissary.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Still took two two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
The point is the first meal I had to wait
online and they were very generous. Everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
They kept doing the like the plate they kept going.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
They threw like six.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I hated them on my table right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
When I tell you, this shit tastes like when listen,
even the guys that mind their business. There's some guys
in jail, mind their business, don't bother nobody. They over there,
they don't talk to nobody. You know, they're good people.
When I tell you, all of them looked over and
wanted to see my first reaction his fucking food. This
was dog shit, this food.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
My dog was eating better than this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
They all look and they was like, okay, you know
what it is in here now right, So I go
like you, but very quick, I got me Italian chef.
They had a chef down in the in the thing
Chef Jr. He wasn't put he said, I don't think
he was just a tech.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
But he was my chef.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
He make me homemade ice cream mozzarella. Uh, they were
still the clams and they would make me the Guinian clams.
So it's all type of shit we were thumbing out right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
You know. I got the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
I got pick up a guy. I told you about
Hong Kong's Mongolian. So in jail, in jail, Hong Kong's Mongolian,
because he was the guy nobody wanted. And so in jail,
if you white, you with the white guys, you black
you with the black guy, you with the Spanish. He
was a white guy that the white guys ain't won.

(01:04:36):
But I saw him and he was man. He had
that boot strength so like he played basketball. Nobody want
to deal them because they'll hit you with an alboy
ship mother, and he was strong. So I said, my man,
come with us, man, you eat with us with us,
And I gave him a name, Hong Kong's Mongolian. And
one day he comes up to me because the guys

(01:04:59):
ya Washington slow, I mean, but he's just no, no,
he's not slow. He's just slow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
He's a little bit. He ain't go past second grade.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
But this guy was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
You know he was in second grade.

Speaker 18 (01:05:11):
Nama at least him at least sixth gade. No, this
guy take out ten give six. This guy would take
out ten twenty guys like he was all out war.
He's gonna take out ten twenty. He's Hong Kong's mon
Cody go. Look he's to standing there like this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
The white guys was looking like, oh shit, they gotta
be something to this fact. Joe s snatched up this guy,
and I'm calling him in the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Whole job, Yo, listen, ain't no different than this show.
Honk Gools long goalie and he's walking through. What's up? Boys?
They looking like we made the busteak.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
We recruit this letter. He was like shit, do they
let him go? And he ain't let him go. He
went past all the draft. Ain't I seen this sparkling him?
I said, Yo, this is Hong Kong. He come up
to me one day, he said.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Boss, Boss. I said, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
He said, I just realized Hong Kong and Mongoli is
two different places.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I said, my man, shit, the fuck up?

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Me happy?

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I gave you a dad, get the fuck out of here. Okay, boss,
I hope they bought.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
He goes on. But I got this story right. I
thought about it last man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
No, I don't really brag about jail because there's guys
did ten thousand years in jail, but in the FEDS
less now than ever. But they always said, you go
to the Fed and God's got money in there. So
next to me in the table, don't ask me how
they got.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
The table was four.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Latinos with they They could be I'm in Miami, so
they could be like Cuban, but I don't think they Cuban.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
But you could tell they got money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Like in the streets if I pulled up in the
coloring in, they pulling up in the colleague, they're pulling
up there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
These guys got money.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
They're not bothering nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
They got money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I don't really talk to them because they really ain't
my type of guys. I'm sorry if y'all watching there
wasn't my style of guide, you know what I'm saying.
And so one day we're sitting there, were watching TV
and the guy goes at orders a pizza pie. Now,
at least jail, I was in a pizza pie is

(01:07:19):
like caviard, right, everybody ain't have a pizza pie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Any normal person ain't have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
That real pizza pie. Some pizza is still a big
deal in jail. I watched niggas throwing bananas down. They
shit of ipple like niggas do the most derelict shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
For anything in there. Like I mean, grown men, yo,
watching your back while you're still in a banana.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
That's how bad it is in jail, bro, This shit
is really a third world country in America.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
It's bad in there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
But anyway, pizza they up to like twenty pizzas for
no reason. They couldn't even eat it, y'all another pizza.
Every time a pizza came, they kept looking at me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
My table was right next to them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
It was like, I go on myself, okay in the
fans at least the jail, I'm at. The eggs they
give you in the morning is powdered eggs. They had
never seen the real egg in the jail. A fucking
the egg. Think about where you go to the store,
boy does it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
They had never seen a real egg in the jail.
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Going mysell, I come out, Mike waves right there. The
whole fucking shake to see.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Crack an egg. Bam one. That was it, yo. They
had never seen an egg bam one, bam, two bam.
I'm up the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Forty fifty eggs just bam bam bam like I'm the
whole jails.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Watching the HORRISTI yo, yo, no, I'm trying it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
That's how about I keep going to like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Six to seven sixty seven, eight, six to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Six seven like this. The motherfucking look at me, dizzy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
They learned the pizza dudes, Bro, They've never seen an egg.
I busted open so many eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
The scramble eggs was so big, and I just kept
going like this, like letting them know, like, yo, bro,
I got shit. You ain't even see in this fucking jail.
Y'all trying to play with me with some pizzas. Y'all
got me fucked up. I get up to the sixth seventh,
I give it him a chef junior, let him go.
You know what's crazy is we had and this this

(01:09:51):
this no offense with this slight racist what I'm about
to say right now, we had no no, no, I'm
telling you we had one Asian guy in the whole
jail one Asian, and I would bother him every day, like, yo,
you make.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Chinese rice, you know how to cook? You know how
to cook?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
You may I'm a fat dude, like I prefer like,
listen to me, man, I want the Chinese rice. The
man telling me, Yo, I don't cook. I keep bothering him, Yo,
I don't cook.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I don't cook.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I'm like, yo, you got Chinese you know huh, they
know how to make it? He would I gotta give
him it. He wouldn't let me punk him into making
Chinese rice. I kept bothering him, like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Yo, you make Chinese, you got Chinese food, you got Chinese?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
You know how? He was like no, I want don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
All right? So one day is my man's birthday and
I give the dude the white time would like and
miss the child, and I have him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I have him serve my man for his birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Like this man, I said, Yo, mister child, baby, mister
child with the white with the whites, I say it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I'm like, yo, miss the child.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Man in the Feds.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Man, you got mister child. Yo. We was clowns. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
No, y'all listen clowns, I said, So I go on
the visit and somebody slips me some Jordans. Now in
the FEDS.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
You're even wearing a gray sweatsuit or a beige I
don't give a fuck who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
They are not. No one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Has Jordan's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
I got it by the fault. I'm telling me, yo,
slip your shit off. I slipped it off in the visit.
Then I put them on his Jordan's biggest mistaken my life.
I go up at the elevator, the whole elevator's life,
you know, because you in this building.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
They got these elevators. You could put attractor trailer in there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
So they got three hundred guys on the video and
the whole visit is looking at my feet like I
walk in the fucking tier. Puerto Rican dude, barber, I
would love to see him. He was a barber with
a little tail from Puerto Rico, Puerto Rican.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
He was a real one. So he runs up and
ghost like I tell you he's real ratio in there.
He runs up and ghost may back may bah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
He starts screaming, is if I wanted to be on
the low. It's no law.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
He's screaming made back, made box. Basically he's saying yo
to Puerto Rican the Latino guy, the may bot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Like the coloring on his feet. You ain't never see
this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
He telling everybody yo them Jordan's is a may bock
in here, man, it's a fucking may box. And he's
screaming at everybody. Started looking at from all corner. So
I get the spaghetti feet. Damn there, you know my
shit looking like Jerry Lewis, I Walker two. I want
to think that I'm not for sure I'm in trouble
right for yourge. I'm not scared of somebody's stealing this nigga.

(01:12:57):
I'm in trouble right. So I felt like, homeboy, what's
the thing? Huggy bed with the fish tank pumps man
when he came out to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
You got the fish in the shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Years later and they was playing public anademy and shit,
I'm gonna get you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Sucker, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I felt like Huggy Bed walking out there with in
them shits. Sure enough, the next day they rushed my cell.
They got these people like Internal Affairs or whatever they
call SIS. They rushed the cell boom. I'm working out.
They pull out the Jordans. I go into thing assistant
watering is there?

Speaker 20 (01:13:32):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
This woman shout out to the woman. She's like tough,
real tough. So I said, hey, I was always nice
to this lady. I don't know why I was always
nice to anytime I passed that. Anytime I did, someone
was like, hey, water and I had that report. So
she says, now of these people are your friends, Joe.

(01:13:57):
We got like forty phone calls from the hotline to
about you got the Jordans.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
So I'm like, you know, I'm knowing not my friends.
She said, do you know what we got here? I
said no.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
She said, such is such the leader of the Shawa pas,
such is us, the leader of the gorilla fark on
me in Columbia.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Such and such, the king Benavol. Because it's Miami's the hug.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
So if you're doing work out there Jamaica, Santo Domingo,
Puerto Rico, the killers are all killers.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
They throw them over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
It's Miami's the hog, right, And she said, and do
you know every floor I go to, whose fucking name
I hear the most?

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
She said, fat motherfucking Joe. What you want to do?

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Like I've been humble, I don't get into arguments with
nobody ever. Just she's like Jody, not your friend. They
called up and she gave me a chance, thank god.
But that was that was you know, they all called
on me, all you guys, you know who you are.
They all called on me about the Jordan's, but you know,
Jerr was different. I don't advise nobody to go there.
To me, it's like communism. It's a third world country.

(01:15:08):
If your family don't send you no money, then you
have no resort but to do crazy things.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
But I was just thinking about that today because I
don't try to think about that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
But sometimes it can't escape your mind.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Yeah, last night, I don't know. It's the simple things, man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
I was just thinking about it because you know, my
whole life, I've been chasing the stunt my whole life.
I've been flexing my whole life. Since I'm a chid,
I've been trying to make a movie. And I just
got I started laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
When I thought about the eggs and the fucking that that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
The pizza pie, like I really stunted on them with
the eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
I always think about the late great DJ Clark can't
super produced.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
That's the piece of good favorite man, God's favorite. You know,
this was the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
He passed away, but I always think about what he
said because you know, he did it all like he
was cool with Biggie jay Z, like he put them on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
And started with cool Hurk. He's seen his ship. He
wasn't that old man. He wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
He's one of the cool Herk's original DJ Superman Clarking
was down with Coolhrk.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
That's how fall ego about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I met DJ Callen and DJ Nasty at a cool
at a clock him battle. He had a battle when
we came up. That's how I meant call it online
around flow Joe time and so he said that Biggie
and jay Z both his mans. And Biggie would be like, yo,
why you say jay Z. But he used to tell
Biggie that jay Z is better than right, and Biggie

(01:16:49):
would be like, how you think he nicer than me?
He'd be like, yo, because you're a rapper. He's in
them c He's like a poet. He could you know
this early jay Z before all the hits.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
He's a poet. But the case may be, and so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
To me, the difference of an m C and the
rapper is an m c is and you have huge
hits two but you more. You got your hand on
the third rail. Tayli Kwali, Jada Kiss Common, These these
are m krs MC's rappers. What he's referring to is

(01:17:25):
the guys on billboard that crossed over and we think
they commerci you. What do you think about that argument
right there that he was having between Big and jay
Z where Big was like, yo, I'm nicer than the son,
but he was like, nah, j nicer than you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
He's an MC. Of course this is before success. What
do you think the difference between MC and a rapper is?
I think a MC is just what it means. You
know what I mean. You're controlling the maestro. You can
do anything. You have diversity, you have a you know

(01:18:00):
you you you can do different. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
You can do a big commercial, you can do an
R and B feature, you can do it all. A
rappers just playing with words, uh, you know, the ability
to put words together. MC can control the crowd, he can,
he can he can have the crowd in his hands.
He can engage with the crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
But Nelly not just the crowd, was just Hey, it's
all about the fun.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Now you're going into being an entertainer, you know what
I mean? Is it entertainer? Is a rapper? Is it MC?
Right now? You got you know, you got people that
wrote the song that you might even see here mama.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Yeah, Pack was everything, raped all the tuls of everything.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
He was everything you can do drama so you can make.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Music because I'm trying to find out who's the perfect one.
Like so you say pop that's why Castle. Yeah, it's
like it's the best song right in the game. You
got guys like whole with I Love the Dog was
talking about you know, we capt the hottest v's then
there we played monopoly with real cash and that big

(01:19:10):
come on as ship?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Was you ever there for any of them? Like Big Song?
I was there for Hypnotized. I was there when he
woke Hypnotize.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Was you there for I loved it? Anything like that?
I was there for I loved it though.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
No, he was actually in the We was in the
MIDI room, you know what I mean, they both was there. Yeah,
it was none of it was no fucking emails and
none of that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
You had to be there so you see them both
going at it right there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
It wasn't battling and none of that. They was trying
to make a hit song, which they did. Did you
see they We was mad?

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
You see the paper and ROMs? No, it was at
the top.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
No, listen like I didn't see listen you story or not?
Everything I tell is real. You don't got a hood
for a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Listen. We was in the MIDI room.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
We was the young locks and Hope kept coming in
our room like giving us an update of what's going on,
like I'm about to go first this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Time, and he's like, no, you go in there and
kill that ship, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
And that's what he was probably going to the bathroom,
didn't He's stopping the MIDI kicking with us, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
And we actually seen Angela Winbush.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
That's not a sample. That's hers singing I love the Dough.
We've seen we've seen her laying. We've seen Damn Max
laying Pray and pray for my damn Fall. That ain't
a sample either. We've seen him record that lot. We
wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on Life after Death.
It's only a couple of features on there. So he

(01:20:48):
loved Big forever you know what I mean. We thankful
to being around for the process of life after death
and slightly before that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
It was a beautiful thing. But hey, we was in
the studio to day they made. Was in the show
for loved it though. I think I was in the
store even I was.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
Dead for a lot of them, or when we would
come for our session and we would hear what he
just did, go on, kiss good night a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Of course we was there for Last Days because we
featured on Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
But you know, when I think about when we talking
about the perfect MC, the perfect rapper, perfect performer, entertainer
came up a lot today. I think DMX shows which
one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
You was there every song record? Shut him down, open
up shot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
I don't think he wanted to do that when Swiss
first brought it to him, he didn't. He didn't want
to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
He didn't want to do that, I don't think at first.
I don't think he was happy to do it into
it when it was done.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
When I tell you, at this time, I was still
halfway in the BRONX. So I'm at the car wash,
and when I tell you, every single car I don't
care if it was a Spanish dude that would be
playing SUSA. They was playing that ship like that song
had me the dizziest. You know how you go for them?

(01:22:13):
Bro Where you going y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Because when you want to see if your record was popping,
like Benjamin, you see who's playing my.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Man, I have never witness in the history of the
Bronx start shut him down your I was dizzy, It
was everywhere like that was the craziest.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
To me of standing outside trying to hear your song.
That was that ship right there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
He ain't even want to record that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
I think Swiss had a little problem making him get
into the lad to once you find him with the
final mixing mastered version came out and they.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Knowing was it? They knew what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
You know when I went at the video is out it,
I think, so what would you listen to in the
in the in the in the big game, like you're
going to playoffs?

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
That when is it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I'm gonna called it three dedication too. I'm that called
it three changed mine.

Speaker 10 (01:23:25):
That's all I thy like middle school high school for me,
so you're in college, that's all I was listening to that,
like you don't ever change this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Hell, I had a black ultim on teams. That's all
I was bumping. I think if I think, if I
was a ball player, I'm about to play a big game.
I'm listening to Dmax or something. Yeah, I used to listen.
I went in all ship you right here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
We ain't going anywhere, probably like I'm trying to listen
to some ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I listened to Like I mean, I mean you feel me, like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Get me in my zone, like I'm here now, I'm
with the Carter three. I'm where everything Lil Wayne ever did.
In fact, Lil Wayne, that's the Louke Wayne. That's salute
the game, right because when you listen to your traditional
West Coast music, although game could touch it, his sound
has always been universal. It could be East Coast down

(01:24:19):
whatever game got a sound that could go everywhere, right,
And with Lil Wayne, he was the first guy to
come like really straight out the South. Of course you
got Goodie Marvey got on Andre tix thousand, but that
sounded like South music. This guy was rapping to like
harcore beats. What was throwing these flows on the shit.

(01:24:44):
It never been seen. I tell you one little Wayne story.
We do the yard taking over with cal it. I
thought I had everybody that. When you see crack better
duck like the back got to east pets here, what say,
I don't give a fuck, I run it. I thought
I had everybody on it. I heard that everybody's verse. No,
I don't think that all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I'm not not for sure. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
No, I don't always think that. No, No, that sometimes
I know that's the time. I don't think I'm the best.
I make anthems.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
But that one record, I thought I had him kiss
and then we go and I go with Charlie. He says, YO,
come on me, let's convince Wayne to get on this.
I said, no problem, we're playing for Wayne. Wayne is
in the studio. He's not even in the big studio.
He's upstairs in the hit fact me. But upstairs he
got a room with just the whole ship of speakers.

(01:25:41):
He's up in there and he plays the ship. He's
staring at the speaker's louses. He gets in the studio
and the booth they crank it up. He goes, I
am the beast. Feed me hip hop or feed me beats.
I ain't gonna less on the Easy Street. I say, motherfucker,
why did I bring Chalent over here?

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Beg this motherfucker to get on this record?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Like I begged him. I begged you to get on
New York. I don't know if you recall Fat Joe
begged you to get on New York and send you
that beat Little Wayne. I begged them to get on
taking over. I'm telling you the truth. Okay, I got you.
I don't No, I'm just telling you that's what happened.

(01:26:29):
I'm telling you what happened. Same thing with Lil Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
I go over to Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
We really need you weezy days. I am a beast
phoebe hip hop or pheedb beasts. I ain't gonna wrapped
on DJ Street? Why relaxed on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
I was like, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
I walked out of that fucking studio dizzey. No, it
was hello, You're thinking, oh yeah, Joe, you know you
gotta feel like you're the best.

Speaker 8 (01:26:57):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
I walked out of them stairs knowing I got destroyed
on that ship. I'm walking down the stairs like gulls like, Yo,
we got it. You heard what he said.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
I'm like, fuck had in bro the motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
That destroyed my son like a motherfucker on this bitch.
I thought I finally had these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
He can't nah nah, Lil Wayne different, He's taking no mantealis.
He was just step ahead of everybody. I'm telling you, guys.
You look at him and he's at the basket beautifully. Right,
Little Wayne, he was a step aheaven and he was

(01:27:39):
a little bit faster.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
He was a little he was a little.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
It was something to him where he dumb out. He said,
you like that too, But he dumb out like he'd
just be like there and he ain't gonna let go.
He's like a pit bull once he got you and
you like, oh shit, he he just won't stop. He'll
just keep doubling, trippling. Why drupling down on that ship?
Come on, man, man was taking beats. He was taking

(01:28:04):
what jay z what's the ship he did over the
with the jay Z be Ren When Little Wayne did that,
we didn't even know you could rhyme to that ship
with jay Z be all. No, he did one of them.
I don't know what it was. He did one of them.
Ship's over so legendary. That little way ain't on there
I didn't know you could wrap like that on that

(01:28:25):
beat like we did.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
He heard that. I thought, at this crazy story, right,
it's gonna lead to a question for me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
This is crazy, that's insane. It's insane one right, but
it's truth. It's uncapable.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
I got a friend right he passed away. We used
to call him Joe Bentley because he owned so many bends.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
When we go to Miami, we.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Used to have all these drop top Bentley.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
This guy had too many bentmans like the Italian and
do too much, right, he said he died, right, But
I'm just telling you this story because I thought about
it on the way here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
I was like, who would be?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
But anyway, so this guy must have been the original
kapper because you know everything I say is true. These
people just ain't having an incredible life like you, so
they can't they can't comprehend the shit I be saying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Right, So this man was the bigger capper than me.
So every time he was so rich, but every.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Time he would tell me stories, I'd be like, full
of shit. Told me he used to fuck sit share.
One day, he picks me up in my house in Miami,
pulls up to star aland share opens the door and
the boost da and this day the ass walks it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Shit, you can't believe right. So the man tells me that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
When OJ Simpson was in the Bronco, he was in
the airport with the private that O. J. Simpson is
his man, right, he was the one waiting for him,
for him in the A C. Green to come on
a private breakout. This guy he's telling me our counts.
But the point is the man telling me all this

(01:30:11):
shit the whole time. I know your friendly, I know
he's I know he's my man, filthy rich, but the
ship he was telling me, I could not believe right.
So one days his wife's birthday and he says, yo,
we're throwing his wife is named the Cole Joe Bentley.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
His wife is named the co.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
So he says, yo, we're throwing her birthday party in
my other house up and night where Trump lives Palm.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Beach, and some shit we pull up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
This shit got white horses or it's just the guy
had too much money, right, I go with the terror
squad to me, remmy pistol P.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
This's why I got witnesses with this one. We going there.
O J.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Simpson is in the house, so Remy and Pistol starts
smoking blunts with him. They having the best time with Ojson.
She was smoking smoking joint blunts with Remmy and Pistol. Right.
Remmy says she even got a picture of that. Right,
So I go like, he's murdered two people smoking blunts.
It is easy, You're right. The moral to the story

(01:31:19):
is when it came down to cut the cake, happy
birthday to call Joe, Bentley puts the machete in oj
OJ's hand. He said, you did it, nigga, you did it,
and oj start chasing him around the house with the
fucking knife. Somebody got y'all got to get an animator
and turn these stories tell it. I shout out to

(01:31:40):
mister Comodore, mister Comodore, just a ready start.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
You seen the ship he did?

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
He did like when I robbed the Jimmy played it
over his white face with blonde hair, fat belly out.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
He's doing this, Charlie Murphy. But listen what I'm saying.
O J starts chasing him around the house with the knife.
He said, you did it, man, you did it. The
fucking who would be the O? J.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Simpson of twenty twenty five if somebody killed they wife
or something like.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
That, Who are you the fuck? Who was he who
was stopped TV?

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Who would stop TV? If they was in the white
bronco chasing them they might have allegedly killed their wife
in twenty twenty five? Who's the celebrity, any celebrity and
he at no, you know that's that's murder and fame.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
So you think any celebrity would would have the TV
going crazy? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
So you ain't got one pick? Oh hit wasn't even
a big celebrity when that shit happened. He just was OJ,
my pick is Tiger Woods because you got a white girl.
It gotta be a white girl right to make this
shit go crazy and white.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
People it is comfortable. He had a question for you,
I do Here's the question.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
The question is I was setting him up? Who's the
old jail twenty five? But celebrity did some allegedly did
some ship like that? Who with every channel turned on
to hey everybody that killed two? But when you said,
when you say that element, now you're talking about the
white girl, is it? Does it have to be that element?

Speaker 13 (01:33:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
I'm just thinking about how crazy Will Smith from slap
to murder.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Will Smith running this crazy?

Speaker 9 (01:33:34):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Oh no, you're fighting. Jazz is driving Jasey and he
got the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
J he's DJing while he's driving. And as he's driving
us in West Philadelphia born and raided. Oh, because I'm
thinking Tiger boys got the white wife. He's golf The
white people watch golfing because the white people love oh
j That's what made this so crazy, right, Yeah, it's
twenty twenty five. Black men murdering white women. Don't have

(01:34:05):
the same cachet.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Yeah, yo, yo, yo, the the views of this saint, Yo,
this is out of control.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
Let's tell you. Let me tell you one of the
funniest story ever heard.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Niggas Fred Legg the Mike Tyson Eve at the awards
and he was like, Yo, you gotta take the base
off the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Chell, Mike dad Ship. I told him, what's that story?
I don't know that story.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
One day Mike was talking crazy to Eve, like what
crazy out of this world? Great, like preture I'll eat
your kids and.

Speaker 12 (01:34:43):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
It was not like that, but no, he was saying.
Mike's saying that crazy ship too.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
You must have lifted like a steak instead of you
know when you see he was gonna fuck you up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Listen, listen to the story.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
Know when it's you see something and you say something
in your mind. He was doing that, but it wasn't
in his mind. He was just whatever he was thinking.
He was saving it and me styles and loopes like,
somebody got it. Somebody got to be the crash dummy.
Then we got a hawk. Somebody got to get the

(01:35:19):
hot hit him, bro, and then we're gonna halt matter.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
That DN Dawn.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
We did twenty first fingers about twenty million times. Nobody
wanted to take the first hit. But Mike was telling
her that crazy shit. I want to tell you, I
want to He was saying that crazy shit to it.
And we did that the remy we was in his
house after she shot the girl before.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
That's that's after she elect that's before she elected shot
the girl.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
I turned out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Saucy opened the door, asked man, Jerry, she can't do
you opened the door, asked naked, And I was like
hearing that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
No, No, See your micall right is knowing that, Yo,
you gotta have heart to tell Mike Tyson like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Yo, my man, throw the toe on man like and
I'm with some allegedly got out though yeah I was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
He was like, Yo, Joe, you know this is the
boxes were.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yo, my man, you gotta stop then we're gonna side,
and the type of things he was telling Remby Mo,
I felt pussy if I didn't like like address it,
like I have to be like your mic.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Or that might have to be around the same.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Shoes losing his fucking mind.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Fu, Yo, Mike is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
He was like, yo, Joe, you know, he showed me
a brand new Bens. It was like a five money
some brand new ship never drove and he was like, yo,
you just leave her head. You got the Bends, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
The ship was crazy. Like I was like, yo, my maid,
just like he was looking at me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Remmy's eyes looked at me high eyes opens so big.
She was like, nigga, you better not leave me in
this fucking place. I think my brother was with us too.
Everybody was looking like yo, like we're gonna have to,
like pound Mike Tyson out. We have no pause, no choice,
We're gonna have to like it's nothing we can do.

(01:37:19):
Like he was like, Yo, showed us the brand new Bend.
Shit was like one hundred and fifty two hundred. Nobody
even had that ship like then they sit still have
to stick to it was like, ah, we she gotta
go with us, my man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Now that ship was crazy. I was in the studio
with big though.

Speaker 21 (01:37:40):
I just always wanted to ask you itll this nigga
yeah ball he wanted you never needed his studio, he wrote,
sometimes I got it. I have a half of I
have like a quarter of oh smoking line optimost that
verse I got yell your papers and I bo hell
hell no, I can't lie to you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
I gotta set that. I just show kids. I never never,
I never said that at that yo. I never said
that you got some fun hear some punk? He said
it first.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
God, I was with Biggie when he did hypnotize.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Look he was whating on paper. I was.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
He was in the studio Bigger right in the studio
with Biggie Sports when.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
He did hipnotize.

Speaker 5 (01:38:20):
Body got a whole three vertues of him written because
he even the ship I got is only a little
bars and then the rest guys, I never by the way,
stage let.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Me call it, let me take, let me take that
was my ship right there too.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Yeah, this store eighteen hundreds of special looking guy here
last day, yayo. We're still in the hood. So we
in the We in the hood selling crack. He called us, yo,
I gotta come to Daddy's house to get on big album.
We still got joints on this we go to. We
used to me and Daddy's house with packs on.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
You can but seizing them.

Speaker 5 (01:38:58):
Got Phinney sweaters and all Chris style. We got army
suits with backs on. Oh ship like we gonna be
like them niggas.

Speaker 21 (01:39:05):
But anyway, we there this day week we on the
block that we bring like three four of our niggas
was to get the big old Mafie is dead.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
They got Branson, then he got the liquid has sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
Ranch Branton to break shout out to Barrets coming back
up with man names jaws of Branton, and he used
to sometime was a red caje nigga. Get this lickid
hash that you got to put it on your fingers,
smearing on the blunt.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
First he is late. Now he's writing the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
He's doing the verses. We find out that beat us
from Havoc. Niggas is hype. We're writing the ship. Everybody
lay their verse and niggas is high. Niggas is knocked.
Everybody in the old studio is fucking cloud seventy seven
half bag.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Soon as Niggas is in a deep slumber.

Speaker 20 (01:39:54):
Be out yelling me goway and do my vert Nigga
win And he was on the stool, but he flag
was still dropped that ship and woke everybody up like
they gave him smelling salt.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Scrapped superhero ship right there.

Speaker 16 (01:40:11):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
If you know this on Life After Death, it's not
that much features, so yeah, it wasn't. It was young
Locks they be featured on there. That was a that
was a nice accomstance.

Speaker 16 (01:40:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Then he should have that nigga bulletproof. Man.

Speaker 21 (01:40:23):
I still say that Biggie my favorite rapper Old I'll
be fighting over big That nigga shouldn't have been in Cali.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
So niggas always look at it like that, no disrespect
to know what?

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
No, no, no, but even for your show, what save
it for what? Twelve?

Speaker 13 (01:40:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
No, it's a good thing to talk about. What's the
fut That was our first time ever in l A.
I was with him, he was with it, you smiling,
he was happy to beat it. It's not one of them.
I'm seeing all these ships on the ground saying ships
puff made him go there. He wanted to beat it.
He was happy. He was happier than I was seeing
them at Daddy's house. Over there. Little she told us

(01:41:03):
the same thing. Party. Listen, I know you get to
keep it right. Let me save my pe.

Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
Hell to the party that you see the last picture
with the cane, the thing m Stevie j puff.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
We in there. We was mad. I don't know what
son happened with buff. We was over there ice brill.
We went over to him with that picture you see
with the shaves the king him. Shake that ship off,
he told us, was my single release. Whatever's going on
with Diddy? We handled it.

Speaker 22 (01:41:36):
When we get back home. He goes so Chris style
or Don Pinge, whatever was the thing. It was like
two ounces, say go over there, shake, smile, make it,
shake that ship off.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
We got my single. And that was the last ship
he ever said to everybody left went to the party.
Then that's when that should happened. Next time, say that.

Speaker 21 (01:41:56):
You park past already, Why would you have him in
la That's all I was that already. You know the
beefers less you think about it's a hard thing. To say,
because I've seen him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
He was happy like Christ.

Speaker 9 (01:42:09):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
He wasn't the still they killed Q. That nigga was
like he was chilling, chilling.

Speaker 21 (01:42:15):
I understand, But I just in my mind when I
look at him, what we got because we get to
look at it now.

Speaker 23 (01:42:21):
We get to look at you a little older now
just now we're older. But when we look at it,
he shouldn't have been over there. But what they're trying
to say for him, and Little C said on ear
was he wanted to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
It ain't like we thinking. But forced the nigga to go,
They said to be there. I was neglige you. I
be each his own bottle of eighteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
If I did.

Speaker 5 (01:42:49):
Speak tool, I've seen him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
He told us what the I mean? He told me
I see it. If I didn't even yeah, I be
to day because I love that nigg It crushed me
my first time in l A B. I shot. I
still had a beeper. My mind's a beeping me. This
ship is that's crazy. I don't even know you was this.
It's all the way down full nave. But it's my
mind because he know you with big of course, of

(01:43:14):
course that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Ship drug when I go down that block, when I
go to that light to this day, I fucking shake.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
But I seen I spoke.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
I was next to him.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
He would fucking was He wasn't. He didn't seem like
he was forced to beat it. He was one of
the happiest I actually ever seen them in life. Over there.

Speaker 21 (01:43:31):
The reason why I'm so passionate about it because I
look at it like took one of our fucking head
rappers in our superheroes. No more now street niggas are
or shoots. All skims are rappers, not superheroes. So when
we came up, niggas was superhero big Eli Bonis that
Joe Jealous whims in view, y'all dropping and no disrespected Diddy,
but no more shiny suits you niggas with from that

(01:43:52):
era to that era that it was crazy summer jam
chay with nas.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
You know what I'm saying. Ether we love to beef.

Speaker 21 (01:44:00):
So when you look at tupacin Big that was like
one of the most biggest beefs we knew. Like being
by the radio and waiting for I think flex played
at first when Big Player who shot you and me
and motherfuckers be like, yo, that's not a disrecord.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
What in my mind when I wasn't nobody.

Speaker 21 (01:44:16):
I'm coming from Jamaica Avenue down God Brewer and I'm like,
I'm waiting knit the radio to here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Who shot you? And I'm like, oh, this is who
shot you.

Speaker 21 (01:44:24):
I remember when that ship dropped records was exclusive one
djil habit, y'all niggas are dropped, maybe one djail two
DJ's a abage, you know what I'm saying. So let's
not act like in the rap game, we don't like
beef because just just now.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
It been for since the beginning of the time. We
love it. Just hair rests wanted sh biggas start that
always been. That's when the difference is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Let me tell you the difference is, so you said,
hip hop police Like so hip hop police, Yeah, they
want to put fifty in jail, but the bulletin don't
got fifty. He got you, your best friends, got the
niggas that be with y'all and this, this, that, and
they waiting for them to make the mistake to run
that reco of course, right, so you gotta understand that

(01:45:13):
it's the unchoarage. You understand the feel like they're impressing
you y'all gonna go pop this. You know how many
times I had to talk people off the cliff, like
guys crying for me, like please, he's at the club
right now, Cherry Lounge, Oh, let me let him go.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
I'm like, yo, bro, the world knows we have beef
with this guy. They're playing it earth. If you lay
them out, then that's for life. We would have been
here twenty years later, like you know, he did it like.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
The top five greatest hip hop songs ever. I'm gonna
let you. Yeah, I'm gonna let you set it off
and your artists producers stop getting fucking mad.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
We love all of y'all. We don't fucking whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
It's more than up Papa ship like yo, stop, I
love all of y'all. Y'all all are supposed to be
the greatest of all forcing me to do he's gonna
pick five. I'm gonna pick five. Don't rob base, do
not call me and curse me out tomorrow when this.

Speaker 5 (01:46:28):
Ship drive the right to because it takes two and
I try to get good big you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
It's millions of them. I don't want to fixing minding me, making.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Me do this right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Top five biggest hip hop songs of all time?

Speaker 5 (01:46:47):
You see why this is a bad thing because it
goes off your age. I can say five, and then
somebody that a new never heard it. Yeah, but it's okay,
it's not fit, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
I demographic is people our age, real hip hop. And
then we got some young kids who really want to
know the real.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
So the top five hip hop songs of all time?
How the fuck am I supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
But what what what you think? When you heard it?
You are?

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
You hear it and you just like, yo, this.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Is the biggest ship ever.

Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
See, I'm trying to think of when since I ever't
first heard hip hop? And now, oh now that's hard,
nothing but clustered.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
No, that's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
I'm drawing white noise. Why don't you go first? Damn?
You said? Why what this is? All?

Speaker 17 (01:47:39):
You?

Speaker 16 (01:47:40):
Right? Here?

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
You go first?

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
I'll say hip hop paray, naughty by nature.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
I'll say still dre I swear it gets tricky. I'll say.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
I'm just saying, biggest hip hop ship. You get caught
hold up, hold on, caught up thinking, I'll say, uh,
New York.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Alicia Keys and jay Z you right around years. You
made it easier for me. I like this because I
could have easily. That's three three What three? I said?
What three?

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
I said? Said New York hip Hop Array in New
York Alicia Keys, and I think we got the best
New York hip hop record.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
Now I'm just saying, not even the five already crack
hip Hop Array won the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
Hip hop Array won the first Grammy, the first rap
for the first grade for the Rap album, for for
a rap album, and that hip hop fucking hooray, Okay,
I got hip Hop Array, I got what was the
second one?

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
I said, still dre right, you know you hit them
pianos uh uh. And then we got new two of
the greatest songs of all time. He on two of
the greatest songs of all time. You're only on three though,

(01:49:11):
you got two more.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Biggie Hypnotize.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Biggie hypnotized, right, and fuck it, I'll go cliche, I'll
go tupac dear Mama, Wow, I need.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
A I'm you did all this was his all fucking
top ten songs. I can't be mad at we have
said spoken about all time. Right, Yeah, you think I
just hit a certain there's no way to be right
or room. I think those songs. That's exactly the point.
There's no way to be right or wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
So so my people don't call me and curse me
out every time I do a producer, every time I
do this, every time I do it that they want
to fuck kill me, like y'all. I love everybody, man,
but I'm just telling you hip hop paray. Oh hey, oh,
I'm talking about hypnotize.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
No y'all niggas fucking talk about the biggest shit. He
fucked me up.

Speaker 5 (01:50:20):
I don't know, man, let me say, nobody take nothing
because I don't like doing these.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
So I'm on y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:50:29):
Side where y'all call him and flip on him and
everybody call crack.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Because this is his idea. But if I got to
give you five, I can't let me try. One of them.
Gotta be something from Snoop what Gin and.

Speaker 5 (01:50:44):
Juice or or the g thing or one of them.
Shit is definitely one of Snoop and Dre together got
one of them. I don't know which one. Take your pick.
That's one for count that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
That's one right now, Rue d m C. Can the rock.
I gotta be one because that's one of the first
alls I've heard in my life. Now, that's what set
it off. I'm up at three now.

Speaker 5 (01:51:15):
The other one was you gotta make your own one
I gave you, Dre and Snoop is one one of
these ships is one is I'm cheating, but I got
he's cheating, no choice.

Speaker 18 (01:51:27):
He ain't go specific with it, I said, Jenny, juice
or g thing those is take your band.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
One fault that dog of all times clocked.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Because this is y'a Jada man, this ship you got,
I mean what else? I mean, uh, you got a
whole bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
That Scott one too, I don't know is one of is.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
Look, that's the stop drop shut him off on the
moth out.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
What you call him is bigger than that.

Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
What it'll make me lose my mind, y'all Make that
ship rips out there up.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Here, that his cruising, y'all gonna make me go all out.
So the hook is so top forty. The verses is dishrich.
The verses is saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Day when when the one thing gun thing like, you know,
he's going crazy, fret you know we had a thing.
Let me let me shout out cool and Dre we
had a thing we would make we we would uh
kill him on the verse and make them dance on
the hook.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
We will always do that.

Speaker 5 (01:52:48):
I gotta stop giving the formulas out. Don't get don't
tell these people that what I'm up to three or four?

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Man, up to three. Now I'm up to four. Gonna
make me lose my mind.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
I'm leaving ship out. I think one of see don't
hold me. Don't quote me, boy, because I ain't said ship.
N w A got one too picky. Fuck the police,
if you're every one you want, that's one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
N w A.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
They got one biggest of all time, great, biggest one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
You don't question my n w comports bigger than fuck
the police. That's why I just give you. N w A.
They got one of them, one of them ships they
got caught bigger than I gotta switched demographic. I shit
alone in my full corner. I got I got millions

(01:53:50):
of more, but I just had to wanted that first.
I got the old production there taking that listen.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Man, I was hustling, and I was in the street hustling,
and my brother told Mantane to pull up in the
red truck, the Wrangler truck, and he looked at me.
I swear to god, this.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
Is like a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
He pulled over. I'm on the block watching the shit.
I don't want to say what block, but I'm on
the block watching and he ran up to me and
his face it looked like a movie. This is my
best friend, rest Apece and he running like he had
to tell me something crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
So I'm like, yo, toning something. He said, Yo, come here,
come here, please come here, and the man press play
because he had the system. Boom buck out, damn boom
boom boom boom boom boomom. I sit alone in my
fall on the broomstad or not.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
We started dancing around this truck when they played my
mind's playing tricks on me, dancing around it like, Yo,
this shit is great.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
And every drug dealer felt like paranoid.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
You felt like I took the ferds everywhere I go
and swam paranoid like everybody living that life.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
You know that was one of them ones.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Nah, So let me get Jada's all. What what did
you write down Jada's five? No, it ain't his Other
songs bigger than mine than his, were just saying he says,
go is one of the biggest songs go, what's from
ghos shut in the club?

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Fifty is your birthday is in the will? That don't
know that sort You could go niggas, I can't talk. No,
I'm just saying I agree with you with that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
You know what I'm saying with the with with the fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Damn, that was a good one. That should have made
some ship. No, No, it's your birthday. That's the icon.
Be able to talk and you can sing that. That's
the that's the cheat code. But what did we do? What? What?
What did I pick? What Jada picked on the top five?
Jada just ran down.

Speaker 24 (01:56:00):
It was either you had's King Rock or on d
M c uh pick a Snooper dre g thing or
I think would be the one Min's playing tricks on me,
d M X up in.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Here n w A fuck the Police or Compton? What
did I pick? Yo? Yo, you gotta stot Layton.

Speaker 5 (01:56:27):
That's one of my favorite song Late, that's one of
my favorite songs.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
Kidding yo, your man violating my ship by here Taylor
be on that bullshit. He throw the hoodie over, He
like my stand alone in the fall, the room with us,
those missiles, those hip hop Ray, Biggie Hip, Mattie Snoop Dogg.

(01:56:54):
So I said, still dre I went still Drake, and
then I went on it was Tupac damn Obama.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
That was great. Those is great. Whole give it to
me is one of them ships too. They know that
ship everywhere and anywhere you could go on with human beings.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
And then we're gonna both agree honorary should be in.
There is there in the club. It is mad p
fifty sec in the club is definitely when the club
is like the biggest disrespect ever created. You know, we
start disrespecting we go, but don't us with the daily satility.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
That what the dealer you when supposed to be on. Baby,
If you give it to me, I give it to you.
You know what that one?

Speaker 9 (01:57:43):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
I got it? What's up with that conversation you had
with pushing beautiful see beautiful? I want to know what's
going on? You know. I I come from a universe
who man speaking language?

Speaker 12 (01:58:03):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:58:04):
But if I say to you kiss yo, giant, don't
call me back the minute you're supposed to see giants
supposed to say a giant, why don't you call him back?
But if I say the kiss yo, between me and
you or off the record, Giant. Don't call me back
the minute you see Giant, you gotta you gotta close
your mouth. But I brung up that conversation. This is

(01:58:27):
from from four o'clock in the morning to two o'clock
in the afternoon. I'm the sharpest you can ever speak to.
I'm the sharpest. Like I'm up in the morning, I'm
doing push ups, I'm running, I'm trying to get my
life together, like I'm shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
He calls me to the clock of the morning.

Speaker 10 (01:58:42):
So I remember this conversation to the tea, to the
tea and he called me, and he his first time
I ever seen Pusher all these years, like kind of
have emotions like he was like, Yo, how our boy
did that? So in case you don't know what I'm
talking about, well picked he said, both on the drink
quick time with slim Drake or push your tea.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
He said both.

Speaker 10 (01:59:03):
Pusher called me and was like, Yo, this was the
first time I ever heard Pusher like raises his voice.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
He was like, yo, you think forty from Ovio with
a pick for the said the same.

Speaker 10 (01:59:13):
And I'm just sitting there. So when I'm bringing up
this conversation with Pusher. I'm bringing this up in honor.
I'm like, yo, that was honorable that he shared that
with me. I wasn't trying to so so what I'm
trying to say is when that conversation happened later on,
in that conversation, there was things that I brought up
and I said, it's off the record. This is this
is off the record, or this is between me and you,

(01:59:35):
because let's just let's talk about what.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
We're talking about. Pusher, who is famous, called Nori, who
is famous.

Speaker 10 (01:59:42):
About a producer for real, who is arguably more famous
than both of us, right about a conversation with one
of the most famous people on the planet, Drake.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
And this all happened on drink Chaps.

Speaker 10 (01:59:56):
So I assumed that this part of the conversation us
off the record because we later on addressed that and said,
like I said, I'm shot from three to two PM,
I'm the sharpest and I remember this ship for a batil.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
He never said that. So if I blew that up
as a man, my bad. If I blew that up.
But I didn't. I didn't think I did.

Speaker 10 (02:00:19):
Like, at the end of the day, no matter what
your media now I got to tell you that, Joe,
hold On off the record.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
Like I just told you about the smoke Champ ship.
You used that on me. That was the first. It
was something weird, that was hard, That was hard. He did.
He did his job. He did his That's exactly what
he's supposed to do. That's how to get this guy
to a hundred millions.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
I never seen that guy trying to get you know,
you used to find me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
He's doing your job. Get doing your job.

Speaker 10 (02:00:56):
I'm seeing smoke drink cha. I'm trying to do a
whole So hold on, let me finish. So let me
finish so with push you like push your ballast. You
know I knew him since they called him Terror, Terry, Terrence.
You know what I'm saying, like terror, this is my family.
So you know they laughed it off. You know what
I'm saying. So I sent them a text like you know,

(02:01:17):
you know I'm coming back. You know what I'm saying,
like that type of ship. But let me let me,
let me make this clear.

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
That's my family. They got the best album right now. Uh,
I still still working out to it.

Speaker 10 (02:01:29):
I was offended that he said cloud chased when he
said everyone, and he said, you know it's it's album time.
You know, everyone wants to click bait. I just want
to address that part, that part. I don't need clickbait.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
They come every month. My work is good. It speaks
for itself. It speaks for itself. I don't have to
clickbait to that part I want to address.

Speaker 10 (02:01:48):
But other than that, if I, in any way shaped
form of fashion blew up something that I wasn't supposed.

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
To blow up as a man, I apologize, Wow, but
I don't think I did.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
Now I can say to the two people that still
believe I'm not Cat May who thinks I'm real, I've
had too cap a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
Now.

Speaker 25 (02:02:13):
You used to be counting cats like they fucking me up.
You know, don't catch I shot you everything and you will.
They said, the fuck you caps every time you do like.

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
This, They're like, yeah, Jada got our back, he know, Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
Casting stigger line again this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
But for the two people, the one percent of America,
i'ven't had so many deep conversations with Nori that you
can't even believe he has never repeated.

Speaker 1 (02:02:41):
I've never repeated that. I have to say no, thank you.
What I can say is if he knew, I couldn't
say that, you wouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
That's by the way. Too many conversations don't be conversations.
I want to tell I want to say what else?
Like this was say what you gotta know?

Speaker 9 (02:03:03):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
You know we now, Yo, listen, now's the time. Yeah,
really get this over with one.

Speaker 10 (02:03:22):
What your Yeah, we've had twenty years and twenty years
this was this is all deep the conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Like sometimes you don't realize the relationship you have with
a person.

Speaker 10 (02:03:32):
How long you know what a person like I was
in grinding, I was on grinded, I was on the remix,
and I'm in the video.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
Like you said, lean back.

Speaker 10 (02:03:41):
So it's like, if it's a misunderstanding, I get it,
and I get why he didn't call me first because
what I did was publicly, so he had to respond publicly.
So that's why I'm responding publicly at you know, but
it's all it's all love. But at the end of
the day, that's not who I'm not. Not a person
who chases cloud. I'm a person who has technicy IM
a person who has integrity, I have morals and I'm

(02:04:03):
very very creative I'm too creative to bite anybody else's stay.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
I've always been my own style always. I always stayed
in my own land because it's never been trafficked there.
But act are you professions? Do I even get to
my riot? How? What was you?

Speaker 5 (02:04:23):
And the staff shout out to be cock, shout out
to everybody? What was what kind of zoom? What did
y'all set out to do? Because if y'all just say
we're about to cook up some ship and go diamond
and take over the whole, every beast of the world
accomplished that to the t. I don't think that's what
y'all did.

Speaker 26 (02:04:44):
Well, I mean you got so we had eighty seven
o one first before Professionals, right, definitely, Yeah, So so
eighty seven o one we wrote, we wrote you got
It Bad real, so you got it bad.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
The success that You Got It Bad was just like
was the beginning of it.

Speaker 26 (02:05:01):
Like it was like, okay, listen, we make after After
you got a bad success, we went back in the
studio for Confessions. The mentality was that we had to
finish off what we thought You Got It Bad did, right,
So USh was talking about the song like he felt
like his relationship was going through the situation. He wanted
it to burn out, like just let it burn out,
and we have to go through the pain. And he

(02:05:22):
was telling me this, and I couldn't really grasp what
he was saying because I went I had gone through
that type of situation, but I was trying to and
I was trying to figure it out, and he told
me this, and then he left and I sat there
for a minute. I except thinking about him, like let
it burn, let it burn, And I kept saying like, oh, okay,

(02:05:42):
when the feeling everybody, you know. I started trying to
figure out what the runs want and then I got
it and I called him back.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
I said, I got it, I got it. I got
the hook.

Speaker 26 (02:05:56):
So he came back to the studio and we did
let it burn first. We didn't let it burn first.
And then he started saying he was going through this
thing where he couldn't really.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
Work in Atlanta.

Speaker 26 (02:06:06):
Let's go to LA And I'm like, nah, here we go.
This is the bullshit. I thought we was just go
through a phase. You think he gonna block his own blessings, right.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
I'm like, here we go.

Speaker 26 (02:06:17):
I'm thinking about me because I'm I'm I'm like I
want to be where I can grab all the records
that I need, any ideas, It's all in my studio
right for me as far as being creative, I don't
want to go nowhere because I know I'm gonna forget something.
I'm gonna leave someone I can't find something that yeah, right.
So he like, let's go to LA, and I'm like, shit, cool,

(02:06:38):
I'm going we go. We go to Brandon's Way and
we get out there and.

Speaker 1 (02:06:44):
My man that was with me.

Speaker 26 (02:06:47):
He was talking to me about girls inside girls and
relationships and this, that and the third, and I just
kept saying, that's you just that's.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
All bad, Like everything you're talking about is all bad.

Speaker 26 (02:06:57):
And Usher came to the studio and we started talking
about some things, but then he left and all I
ken't remember. He was like, Yo, let's let's let's come
back tomorrow. And I was like, man, nah, I can't
let LA beat me. I get like a writer's block.
I feel like I got a writer's block basically, And
you know, it's really really bothered me because I already

(02:07:18):
felt like it was gonna happen when I got to LA,
So I need to cut you off.

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
That happens to me in La. I need it. I
can't just go there and go straight to the studio.
I gotta I gotta cry, I gotta be, I gotta
some ship Gota happen.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (02:07:34):
I don't got the same fluidity in the studio in
La that I got anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
And I don't know what he I don't know what
it is. It takes a while for me to get
I can't just go there and be kissed off the
brit So, yeah, I never really successfully wrote in La.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
Never me myself never hit one out the park in Lla,
Like you know, I wrote ship there, but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
Blackout is recorded in l A on X album.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
This is it.

Speaker 5 (02:08:03):
That's probably he was recording out there. I'm talking about
for me one of on X album is then That's
how I was able.

Speaker 26 (02:08:13):
So yeah, so I'm I'm I'm going through this thing
and I'm struggling. So I'm like, I told the engineer
give me a copy of the beat because I made
we made a beat man, because he made the beat.

Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
And I think I know I know the beat, right,
I just don't. I ain't got the words. I can't
figure it out.

Speaker 26 (02:08:29):
And I and I'm thinking about saying stuff that I
don't think USh is gonna want to say.

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
Right.

Speaker 26 (02:08:34):
So I'm thinking like that he ain't gonna want to
do this because this ain't what his life is, right,
he ain't going through this. So I'm like, but that's
what I want to say. But I'm thinking like this
ain't gonna work. So I take the beat and I
get in the car. And I'm getting in the car,
I'm riding down Melrose and I'm thinking, like where I knew?

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
Damn, I'm thinking. I'm thinking like, shit, I ain't got
the words.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
I can't.

Speaker 26 (02:08:59):
So I start thinking about usual suspect. Right, Kas was
in the jail. He ain't had the words for the story.
He just started looking for the words on the board
and try to create the story. So I'm like, I'm
gonna try this, and that's what I've started doing. I'm
looking at signs on mail Rose. It's all kind of
shit going, right. So I get to the light I

(02:09:20):
think on third, and the Beverly Center's in front of me,
and that's when I say, every time I was in
La I was with my ex girlfriend. Every time she
called me and told him Gravey, I'm working. No, I
was not doing my work. I was handed handing the
Beverly Center like man, not giving the damn who sees me?
And I'm thinking like, oh, and I'm just grabbing this
everything I see. I would have never said the Beverly

(02:09:40):
Center that song if the Beverly Center wasn't in front
of me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
I'm trying to do the Kaisi shit right. So as
I get through that verse, I'm like, I'm like, I
got it. So everything is everything. Everything I've been doing
is all bad.

Speaker 26 (02:09:54):
I got a chick on the side of the crib
and the ride up and telling you some miningize ain't
lotting good.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
It's all bad.

Speaker 26 (02:09:59):
I just want to confess. And that's where confessions came from,
with me saying I just want to confess all of
this ship that I've been doing is bad. We ain't
have confessions that if I want to say that, I
want to confess to you everything that I've been doing
is bad.

Speaker 1 (02:10:12):
It's like my time.

Speaker 26 (02:10:13):
I'm saying, this is gonna be the first R and
B record with a nigga actually tell a girl he
fuck it, Yeah, you ain't got even asked.

Speaker 1 (02:10:21):
Yeah, I'm fucking her. This what I'm doing.

Speaker 26 (02:10:24):
I got a crib on the side. Chick on the
side with a crib on the ride up and telling
you so many lines. Ain't nothing good, it's all bad.
I ain't know where he's going.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
I just felt like day that song feels so good
to this day.

Speaker 1 (02:10:37):
So that was the beginning, right, that was the beginning.

Speaker 26 (02:10:41):
I had to drive all the way to Malibu because
everybody had left the studio and I couldn't record. I
had to remember, I had to memorize all of this. Yeah,
I had to keep going, right. So the next day
it's like, we got hurry and get to the studio.
So I put it down, write it down. I'm right,
I'm driving and writing in my head.

Speaker 9 (02:10:55):
I forget.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
So so we get back, we do we do all bad?

Speaker 26 (02:11:01):
And then Mark pitch like, well, what happened after, you know,
after this situation, what happened with the chick on the side.
Then it hit me it's like, oh damn, she got pregnant.
This is like my real life, right, the chick on
the side get pregnant. I know this story, like I
really know this story. I ain't even gonna write this right.

(02:11:21):
So that's when we're like, okay, I'm like shit, it's
gonna be part two, and part two became these on
my Confession, and you.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
If we wouldn't ever got to that if we went
and did we? So we did a part two of
a song that never even came out. Wow, that was
part two. That was the response. Yeah, and you ain't
even do the first one.

Speaker 26 (02:11:44):
Well we did it, but it didn't come out. La
didn't put all bad on the first He didn't put
it on the album. He put it on the you
know me on the repackage.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
You know, you name it some big.

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
Names, right, So you're saying l A Read, You're saying
Mark Pitts.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
Who the sides? What comes on the album?

Speaker 26 (02:11:58):
LA read on the face? I mean you know at
that time, Ariston, you know, that was his that he'd
be like, I want this, I want that shot. That's
his job, that's what he's thinking.

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
And that was his space. Like La, you know, putting
the albums in space.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
Saw like a like an old interview with all Kelly
and he said he would do like a hundred songs
and listen to all of them and pick out the
twelve on the album. Like you know how hard that
ship had to be to like here's probably some gems
left on the floor, right.

Speaker 26 (02:12:31):
But that's what I'm saying, Like, I never I never
even understood why La didn't even put both versions.

Speaker 1 (02:12:36):
He didn't want he ain't put all bad.

Speaker 26 (02:12:37):
And I'm like, you know, what's crazy is that people
gonna listen to this and they're hearing the second story.
They don't even know where it came from. But I
couldn't figure I couldn't figure out how it was genius.

Speaker 1 (02:12:49):
Yeah, it was. It was like crazy genius. So so
that was the beginning of confessionals. I think, big punt,
I've to think about it, do JD.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
That's our movies.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
Sometimes they make you watch the movie back there that.

Speaker 2 (02:13:02):
Says, you know, they got a little man like you.
Have you ever seen a little man like this? Come on,
we had one in Jimmy. Come on, yo, I'm telling
you the truth. Has anybody here, has everybody help me?
He said, it's a man this listen our fans in

(02:13:24):
moroc French Montana knows them. French Montana is from Morocco.
I told him, he knows him. It's a man that's little.

Speaker 1 (02:13:32):
I need you to man, what size organs do?

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
He?

Speaker 1 (02:13:38):
Yo? Give me this ship.

Speaker 3 (02:13:40):
I promise you this ship the rewinded box.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Hold on, no, ye, come on.

Speaker 2 (02:13:47):
To kiss cafe. Let me get the kiss cafe. Let
me get the kiss fact cafe. Listen, let me tell
you something.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
You see them human being. This man will be ducking.

Speaker 2 (02:13:58):
Behind this ship in real human life. It's not even
jos He's a grown man with a suit. A suit,
no yo, yo demand, Oh I'm capping, yo, look him up.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
He just I promise you. He said he got a
suit on. Yo. We had a Dominican.

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
We had a Dominican named Nelson that passed away, Rest
in peace.

Speaker 1 (02:14:26):
He used to come to Jimmy's Bronze cafe. The man
was this big.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
Come on, yo, I'm telling you, yo, listens. He's definitely
not bigger than a kiss caf. No, no, no, it's
nobody was this big.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
There's a little man in Morocco. He's still alive in
macadsh okay. We want you to send us pictures to
the Joe and Jada Instagram cause y'all be thinking I'm capping.
He won't be hiding behind this ship. This is at
least three fourths of his body.

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
Come on, there's no way. What's that sneaking. No no, no, no,
no no, I'm not a myth. I am not a myth. Alahamd,
I am not a myth.

Speaker 2 (02:15:16):
I gotta.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
This guy's killing. Let's see a French picture, yo, I
bet you they said it to us. French. Ain't pick up.
Let me tell you something. I tell you we had
a Dominican one named Nelson. He passed away. He used
to be a He jumped from the table to the
chair to the disc. You never seen it. I'm not

(02:15:40):
violating in no way. Can anybody get us a picture
of Nelson. He's gonna Nelson will be found.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
You guys are gonna make sure I'm not capping the
guy who does the clips.

Speaker 1 (02:15:53):
You're gonna find pictures in Nelson. You're gonna find pictures
of the man in the mock he ash because they
say I'll be capping. There's a little man.

Speaker 2 (02:16:02):
I can't tell you well, I never seen a little
woman like that, right, I've seen a little man like that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
I never seen a woman like that. How big is he?

Speaker 2 (02:16:14):
He's hot and beyond this ship it would yo, yo, yo, list,
I need you. He's hiding his face might just go
like peek over this ship like it's a little man
with a suit. Yeah, yo, dog rewinded tearing CBS, Sally Beauty,

(02:16:36):
go get it. Man with a soup, Kiss cafe, Go
get your stuff, kiss cafe.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
All right, you think I'm lying, all right, I'm just
trying to tell you. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (02:16:47):
Other people say ship for clickbait content, ship like that.
I say facts we all the time. And when we
do the clip, you're gonna see the little man.

Speaker 1 (02:16:58):
Two of them. I know what, Dominican one else he
passed away. That's in Peace's But the other man gotta
get this when.

Speaker 2 (02:17:07):
We from Morocco is alive and French knows him, French
Montana knows you.

Speaker 1 (02:17:13):
He got kids, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:17:16):
I'm not gonna go there with you. I'm sure he
got a girl. They think he's cute and all that.
The man's a little bit strung.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
What's the toy they selling over the out now for
the girls. Everybody's getting them toys. The girl woman can
have her own.

Speaker 1 (02:17:31):
Little the man, this god the man, Yo. Let me
tell you the picture surfaces of this. No, no, what's happening.
I'm not lying to you. Nelson, you found Nelson? Who
you found from Morocco. Let me see, we gotta go.
We got him, bro, No, I tell you I don't
cap man. I'm not flying capping, yo. Don't care to

(02:17:56):
let you look at him. Look at my man, Oh ship,
Oh fuck this ship.

Speaker 2 (02:18:03):
Look at my man, yo, Look look at him sitting
on a watermelon.

Speaker 1 (02:18:10):
Look at this ship. Oh, I told you this is
my guy. I'm not lying to you.

Speaker 2 (02:18:18):
This my guy.

Speaker 1 (02:18:19):
He's on a watermelon. He ain't bigger than the watermelon.
Look at this ship.

Speaker 2 (02:18:24):
I told you just I told you. No, No, he's
puty put the kiss cafe. That ship half his body. Bro,
he's on a watermelon like that's a building. He's dude, y'all,
come on, kiss you trying.

Speaker 1 (02:18:39):
To I know him from as. He's a big he's big.

Speaker 2 (02:18:45):
He'll hop like he'll hop from the table to the chair,
hop down your house.

Speaker 1 (02:18:51):
Yeah, better than never, say my brothers. The no Cat war.
You seen this ship, The No Cat of Ward goes
to crack this man, Yo, Look at him sitting on
the watermeltain man.

Speaker 3 (02:19:07):
He's a man, a grown man, be wearing suits and
ship go a way, you do.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
Got a little button up, he got a little polo
button up. We look at the little sneakers. Man. I've
been around the world trying to tell you, ladies and gentlemen.
I don't want to hear nothing. He found the little guy, Yo,
to look at the pineapple. I need Nelson. That's his body.

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
If you get Nelson, Nelson is domdicant, Nelson, Look up, Nelson,
Nelson is out there.

Speaker 1 (02:19:38):
Nelson used to hang with us in the Bronx. I'm
telling you, yo, Dorg Yo, the pineapple you met in
the Morocco. Yeah, French.

Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
No, French knows him by name and everything. When I
tell French, yo, you know the little guy, he'll say
his name real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:19:54):
That's what I called him. I was like, you know,
he's a groom man. No, he's a grown man. He
ain't a small He ain't ladies and gentlemen. He ain't
this size though, What size is he? The pillow?

Speaker 3 (02:20:08):
Look at this guy, the fucking pineapples to his neck.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
That's crazy. How little is her body? To tell you
that boy be hot behinds got fake? He'd be like this.
I told you, yo, that's hard man. He made it
his real talk. We gotta put him on the screen.

Speaker 9 (02:20:30):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (02:20:30):
That's crazy though, that's yo. Is that crazy? Not with
a suit? What kind of suit? What kind of shuit? Suit? Oh?
Look at the lady on him. No, no, look he
got the suit. Look it's no he got the suit.
What yo? Look at the lady on him. He got
his soup dead ass, Yo, Look.

Speaker 3 (02:20:53):
He got the suit. He be rocket suits the bowtte
all this ship.

Speaker 1 (02:20:58):
I can't tell you. I'm not lying. Yeah, we gotta
have an e vest on the side. You got Nelson?
He fron Nelson. Y'ah, come on, man, let me give
up already. Y'all who's bigger? Boost? Y'all give yourself a boost?

Speaker 2 (02:21:17):
Looking at Nelson?

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
Did you look at my other man that was sitting
on the Watermelton?

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
Who's alive? My cardessh is alive. Nelson has passed away, right,
you see Nelson? How big is Nelson? Same type ship?

Speaker 1 (02:21:29):
Right? Wow? Let me see it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:33):
Oh you can't really see it? Said, look this is.

Speaker 1 (02:21:36):
Nelson ship, yo. And Nelson is a little taller than
my cardash guy. Yeah, he's a little taller. He used
to rock the TS chain and broke Jimmy's Bronx cat
slay the beach.

Speaker 2 (02:21:50):
I swear to God.

Speaker 1 (02:21:52):
Two foot two inches? Who mcarss and Nelson? My Carnesss
is too two foot two inches.

Speaker 2 (02:22:02):
That's my guy.

Speaker 1 (02:22:03):
He'd be in the suits. I'm telling you what's this Joe.
He was on some ship. He's the littlest guy. What
he passed away off. Now I'm saying I have girlfriends
and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:22:16):
I used to see him in the Dominican clubs.

Speaker 1 (02:22:19):
Yeah, I'm telling you. I said it used to be
in the Dominican club

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