December 31, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin is fine with college football devouring itself in order to get the playoffs. NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell joins Colin to break down what’s made Brock Purdy so electric this season for the San Francisco 49ers. Maxx Crosby is obsessed with football, and that’s a good thing and what everyone should want from a football players.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go our two New Year's eve. Ohio State
take it on Miami tonight. If Carson Beck plays pretty
well and it's not easy against the buck guys, I
think you have a competitive game. I like Ohio State.
I think their defense is the best in the country,
but I think Miami upfront is tough and physical. Miami
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is a much better team today than they were eight
weeks ago, so they played very well. I thought they
should get in over Notre Dame. I liked them on
the road to be Texas A and M and I
think tonight could be. You know, I just think it's
hard for everybody to wrap their brains around how good
Indiana is. People say, well, Ohio State lost Indiana. Indiana
could be the best team in the country. They have
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the best quarterback in the country. So if you look
at those games tonight, I college football playoff. To me,
if you love college football, you had to give up
some stuff to get here. It wasn't gonna be perfect.
I know a lot of you loved, loved bowl games.
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They don't matter anymore. I know a lot of you
love the SEC championship, Conference championships, getting the way. I
know a lot of you love those classic rivalries. Some
will state, some won't. College football played with their food
for fifty years, and finally Fox and the SPN stepped
then and said, let the grown ups take over. It's
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gonna look like a little bit of the NFL. It's
like boxing. It died. Why because not because you didn't
have good boxers run by promoters self serving promoters. I mean,
if you look around at college football was an eight
billion dollar industry with no CEO. You couldn't even get
the schedules right. So it's always been a sport that's
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a great movie with a bad ending. At least now
the ending's good. I mean, you say what you want
starting tonight, the ending's great eight teams, a West Coast power,
blue bloods, newcomers. I mean the only thing that I
regret about this is that I wish Lane Kiffin had
stayed and just said, I'm gonna run the table. See
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if I can win all these games. I don't think
they would be good enough to.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Win the Natty.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I would have loved to have seen, you know, Lane
kiffen with Old Miss. Now it's you know, it's choppy ending.
But I think I think to me, college football felt
sometimes and I love it hoky and like tribal and
regional and provincial. It's like now it feels like players
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get paid, players can transfer, We've got a real playoff system.
It wasn't going to be perfect, you know when you
started the Internet until today it's amazing, but there was
going to be some bad stuff on the Internet and AI.
You know, about ten years ago people talked about it.
Now we're in the throes of it and not going
to be pretty. What's it look like when we ultimately
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get AI functional for everybody in the country, like the Internet.
So I look at college football, I like the ending's good.
I'm getting Miami in Ohio State tonight, Georgia, Old Miss, Indiana,
Alabama blue Blood, new Guy in the Block, and Oregon,
Texas Tech. I love the sport. I think it's great.
With that. Greg Cosel forty six years NFL film stops by.
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You know, I had Mike Vrabel on yesterday and I said,
you know, obviously we thought he was good. I didn't
think he would be this good this quick. How how
do the Patriots You saw him at Carolina, you saw
him last year. Greg, when you look at film, how
do the Patriots play to his straints?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, I think you always look at what your quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
You play to your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And I think one of the things that has really
stood out to me about Drake May has just been
his toughness in the pocket. I mean, we know he
can move, we know he's athletic, we know we can
throw on the run, but he is not a guy
that is affected by bodies around him. He is really
firm and tough in the pocket and he stays there
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and that allows plays to play out and develop. Colin
And you know, there's so many quarterbacks now that are
great athletes, and I'm sure as a coach you don't
want to tell a quarterback who's a great athlete never
to move. But the result often of quarterbacks that move
is that they move too soon. They break down the
timing and structure of the play, and they leave plays
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on the Now. They may run for twenty yards at times,
and you're obviously good to say, hey, good play, but
at the end of the day, you really want the
plays to be run the way they're practiced. This is
what coaches do during the week. And it's not just
the quarterback. It's the O line, it's the receivers, it's
the running backs, it's everybody works together in a structure,
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and may allows that structure to play out to its fullest.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So we watched the Rams get beat by Atlanta, and
we went back and looked at a number that they're
strangely like. We've seen Seattle win when Sam didn't play well.
We've seen the Niners win with Mac Jones. We've seen
the Bears win do their run game. But if you
look at the Rams, if Stafford struggles, they lose. And
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he had a lot of time to throw, and it
was almost as if, I mean, he airmailed a couple throws,
and you're like, Matt, you are as good arm talent
as the league shows. When you watch Stafford and he
gets a little unhinged and un ravels, is it tempo
is at his feet because I thought Monday early it
just there were open receivers, or maybe it was just
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there weren't Maybe the film said they had him schemed, right,
what did you see?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I mean, look, I think that he just had a
game where he was inaccurate on certain throws. I remember
working with Ron Jowarski for one hundred years, and Joe's
would tell me there's two games a year where you
just didn't throw it great, and you know, you never
know what those two games are going to be, and
when those games happen, you hope that the rest of
the team picks you up.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And I think Stafford just did not have a good game.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
But I would not use this game as a statement
as to what Matthew Stafford is. And by the way,
their run game has been very good for the most part.
It's just they don't have an explosive back, so you
don't think of it the way you think of And
by the way, b Joan Robinson to me is the
best back in the league. But their run game is
just not explosive. It's much more of a sustaining, grinding
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run game. But it's been very good. I mean, you
have one back that's got about eleven hundred yards and
another back that's probably close to eight hundred yards. It's
been a very strong run game, and so I don't
look at this game and.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Say there's something wrong with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Now there's no question, even though he's not a true statue,
that he's a pocket quarterback and if you can get
consistent pressure on him, you will speed him up a little.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
There's no question about that. That's true of any quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So Buffalo is fascinating. They're twenty third. They do a
lot of their scoring in the second half and in
the first half. They have been trailing in seven of
the last eight games in the second half, which is remarkable.
And I said this week it's remarkable they have the
number one run game because they trail in the second
half in all these games. Why are they the first
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half is more of the scripted half usually. Why are
they so bad and inconsistent in the first half in Buffalo?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, I think, first of all, they are a running
football team, and I think that that's evident, and I
think that that's the way they stabilize their offense. That's
the way they create create sustainability with their offense by
running the football. They're very limited to some degree in
the past game, Colin, because the one thing that they
don't have, and if you listen to any really smart
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you know, the Tom Brady so who I know you
talked to the Troy Aikman's if you listen to those guys,
at some point in this league, you need receivers on
the outside who can win one on one. They do
not have that. So there's a limitation to what they
can do in the past game. So the pass game
therefore has to be highly schemed, and you know, sometimes
that works and sometimes it doesn't. You know, I saw
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a play last week where they ran one of their
staple plays, really beautiful play that's worked many times for them,
where they send James Cook on a rail route through
the line of scrimmage. They've hit big plays on that
many many times over the last couple of years. And
Zach Bond saw it immediately and he just ran right
with Cook and it was incomplete. So it's a highly
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schemed pass game by necessity because they just can't win
one on one on the outside. So that puts a
tremendous limitation on their past game. And the reality is,
we know Josh Allen is a great player, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Not the point.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But you know, those kinds of superman plays that can't
be the foundation of how you go about winning every week.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So let's talk Philadelphia. It's so interesting you were critical
of them about a month ago on this show. You said,
you know, they're their offense is kind of you know,
it's kind of simple. And then suddenly suddenly the next
three weeks you're like, well, maybe it's not so simple.
So if you were an Eagles fan, they're going to
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rest some starters here week eighteen. Do you like there?
Do you like their momentum going into the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, I didn't think they did a very good job
on tape in the past game. This week, I thought,
although I thought Jalen Hurts played very well in the
first half.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yes, and in the second.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
In the second half, you know, they had those five
drives and they had seventeen plays for seventeen yards and
he didn't complete a pass. So it's very odd and
it's not his I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying
it's very odd. But you know, their run game has
just not been what we've expected it to be all
the year, with the exception of a few moments, you know,
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they're all line quite frankly, if you'll look at tape,
has not been very good. I think Cam Jurgens has
had a really difficult season at center. I think the
sort of chemistry between Jurgens and the left guard Dickerson
hasn't been what it was a year ago. So I
think at their core, Colin, they're a running football team.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
They are a great defensive team, which they are now.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Their defense has led the league in points allowed over
the last eight weeks, and they have a quarterback who,
when he's at his best, is really good at understanding
his role within the structure of their entire team, doesn't
turn the ball over, executes in big moments. But they're
not a true passing team, So you know, I'd like
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to see them do more in the pass game.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They I think they're capable of it, but they just don't.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So we know this to be true. There are offensive
coaches in this sport that are just really good with
young quarterbacks, Sean Pape, bow Nicks, Ben Johnson with Kyle
I thought Caleb played now. The Niners don't generate much
of a pass rush unless Sala has blitz packages. But
in the last few weeks he's not taken sacks. Caleb's
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never thrown a bunch at interceptions. He's not a big
interception guy, wasn't it usc But when you look at
Caleb today, if I gave you last week's tape and
eight weeks ago, it must look different because the results
feel different to me.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Well, I gotta tell you, Colin, I watched that tape.
I watched both sides of the ball in that game
really carefully because it was a really fun watch.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And I said to the guys in my matchup room.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
After I watched Caleb, or as I was watching him,
I said, you know what, this guy's going to be
a great quarterback. I just felt like I was watching
a really good player. Now, granted he wasn't under a
lot of pressure, and I know the forty nine ers
defense doesn't necessarily present a lot of pressure, but still,
I'm just isolating the play of the quarterback. We just
saw him throw that touchdown to Burden. I don't think
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people realize how difficult a throw that was and how
easy he made it look. You know, I think he'll
get better at some of the scattershot throws I would
assume he would. I don't think he's a naturally inaccurate
pass or by any means. You know, he's just going
to have to get a little better with his accuracy
on some throws that are you know, layups by NFL standards.
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But I mean he's just so physically gifted, and I
mean he's such an easy natural thrower to the football.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, now let's talk about two offenses that are the
opposite of that, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. The ware he's going
to go to the playoffs. I have defended Aaron Rodgers
all year on this show. I've said, guys, DK me
CAFs not exactly running every route in the tree he's
now out. They're very tight end centric. I don't know
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how they move the ball against Baltimore. I again, it's
a Pittsburgh. Tomlin is an underdog, has always been effective.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I look at Aaron this year and my take is
the reason he's struggling is once again, they can't run
the ball. He doesn't really have a number two receiver.
I don't blame Aaron or Tomlin. I don't is there
offensive personality good.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's not great, And Rogers is a guy that likes
to work one on ones on the outside, and they
don't have those guys, So a lot of times there's
routes that look like they're available, and again we don't
know how he's taught or what the reds are. So
it's always easy to criticize if you see a three
by one set and the trip side looks like the
routes there and he works to the one on ones.
He's always worked to the one on ones. And when
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you have good receivers, I mean I remember speaking to
coaches so many times over the years, Colin, and if
it's a three by one set, meaning three receivers to
one side and a single receiver usually to the boundary
side the short side, and if that guy's one on one,
pretty much every coach will tell you, hey, you throw
to the one on one.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's matchup football. It's the NFL.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
The issue is they don't necessarily have those guys, so
you know, it's it comes across as Rogers not quote
unquote running the offense, but we don't know, you know,
how they teach it and what they want him to do,
but they just don't have those guys. So it's been
very very difficult. In fact, the last time they played
Baltimore and Metcalf played, and he's not playing in this game.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
They've worked the one on ones beautifully, but it was Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So we'll see what they do this week. On the
flip side, it's going to be Derrick Henry, I mean.
And the most amazing thing about this is the use
of recard the fallback Dereck Henry a very high percentage
of his runs this year have been with recard on
the field, and last week in the game against Green
Bay eighteen for one forty with a recard on the
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field as an high formation fallback. So that's the way
they're going to go, no matter who plays quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, so before we get to the Niners and I
have to eat some cow on purty before we get
to that, the staff is almost rooting against me because
they know my affection for Sam Darnold. I do think
Seattle is more of a defensive story than an offensive story.
But I will say Sam worked very well last year
with Justin Jefferson. I think he and JSN have exceptional
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timing this year. Two different coaches, two different offenses, two
different styles. I think that's hard to do and be
a pro bowler in both. But I will say when
I watch them, if you can bracket JSN, I'm not
necessarily sure what I trust. Offensively, I think they're they're
a defensive story to me, what's the film say they are?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
And I think you would agree that their past game
over the last month has been uneven.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's right, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I mean the first part.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Of the season they really push the ball down the
field and had great success. The last month it's been uneven. Look,
their run game worked. Last week we saw Charbonneau get
one to ten. I doubt that happens every week, you know.
I don't think that would happen against the Niners, but
who knows. But their run game, they have not had
a run game this year, Colin to really fall back
on when the past game has been somewhat uneven, which
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it has been, So you're right, it's really been JSN
and not much else in the past game, and that's
been a little bit of a concern. So, you know,
I almost look at this game the other side of
the ball, because if the Niners can score a lot,
and I don't know that they will, this is a
really good defense, and they're at the forefront of the
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big nickel in the NFL, which has become a trend
with three safeties instead of three linebackers. Nicki min Warry
is such a key to what Seattle does on defense,
and their d line has been absolutely phenomenal. I mean,
I'm not sure a lot of people are talking about
Byron Murphy, but he's You know, there's two defensive tackles
this year that have played so well, and one's on
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a really bad team, Jeffrey Simmons, who I think has
been the best de tackle in the league. But Byron
Murphy has played really, really well, and in the context
of that Seattle defense, no one's talking about him.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Okay, listen, I've said I like rockfordy, but the last
month he has been sensational. And in fact, before this
past week, he'd never won a game when Kittle didn't play.
I think it was if you go back to his career,
he struggles without Kittle, So I thought this week and
it would be choppy. No, he was sensational. You tell
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me what makes him? Yeah, And I mean Garoppolo and
Mac Jones, Matt Schaub, everybody feels I mean, they worked
to some degree with Shanahan, but it feels like of
all the quarterbacks he's ever had, this kid, Shannan just
loves him for a lot of reasons. What's the film say? Why?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I mean, I know you talked to Brady pretty much
every week, and I'd love to get his take on
this whole time of pure progression, because pure progression is
what the forty nine ers are based on. And I
think the pure progression in its purest form is that
the quarterback doesn't really need to know much about defense.
But I think in the NFL that's it can't quite
be like that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It's not the same as old school offensive football, where
you know, you pick.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
A side, a man's side, his own side.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
It's not like that, but it's but I think you
have to have some sense of defense to some degree.
But I think Purdy, and particularly in this year of
NFL football, comin where defenses change, they change the picture
pre snap to post snap, you can't be oblivious to
the defense. And I think Purdy just has such an
innate feel of seeing it right away. Whatever it is,
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he sees it right away. And that was hard to
know coming out of college because the college game is
so different, you know, with the hashmark spread further apart,
there's more open space. And I just think that, you know,
two things that he does so well that we're tough
to know in college, timing and anticipation and just innately
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seeing it right away. And I think the play we're
going to show is a great example. I mean, I'm
sure it was pure progression, and I'm sure the Jennings
touchdown was the read and we can go to that
play right now. I'm sure the Jennings touchdown was the
primary read because they throw those inbreakers all the.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Time and they got the right coverage for it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
So I mean, ultimately, you know, that's what happened here,
and we'll break it down because I thought this was
absolutely beautiful, but it just, you know, it's fascinating to me.
It's a real wonderful philosophical discussion. So Purty's in the
gun here and they're in a two by two set,
and the two key players here are going to be
used Check and Jennings. They're on the left side of
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the formation. Now you're going to see used Check going
shortened motion here, and that's important because what that is
going to do is it's going to expand the corner
and it's going to give Jennings free access into his
route because you don't his timing disrupted. That's so critical
in these pure progression schemes. Now, look what you get
from a coverage standpoint. You're going to get cover two here,
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and then the mic linebacker Edwards, he's going to open
to the wide side of the field. That's what you
normally do in cover two. So now what we get
back to is we get Jennings dig route. And like
I said, that's the primary read. That's the sequencing, the
number one in the sequence. Now tongue is the tight end.
He's going to run right at Edwards and he holds
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him down and it works perfectly on this play because
what you get here is a big void. And so now,
as I said, I'm almost positive this is the primary read.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
But now he's going to make.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
This throw into the void and he hits Jennings in
stride with run after catch and it becomes a touchdown.
And we're going to show this play from behind perty Colin,
because I want people to see the timing and anticipation
that's involved here. And I think I'm not sure you
can teach this right now, Look where Jennings is. Purdy
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has just started to separate his hands to throw the ball.
So you know, you talk about an innate sense and
feel for timing and anticipation, which, by the way, is
essential in a Mike Shanahan offense. I've heard Steve Young
talk about that, you know, with Bill Walls, about how
you have to make the throw before the guy is
where he is.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You know, you've got to trust it. And Purdy does
that exceptionally well.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yep, Greg Cosel forty six years NFL films as ohs, Greg,
great stuff. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Thanks Colin, Happy New year. Talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, college football and pro football feel more aligned. But
it was four or five six years ago. I remember
when Mahomes came out, and he came out what seven
eight years ago? When Mahomes came out, I was one
of them. I'm like, none of these big twelve quarterbacks
work in the NFL. It's all like flag football. It's
a pillow fight if this stuff gonna work. And you know,
I mean why, I mean I watched Mahomes play like
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once or twice in college football. My take is this
is not it's run and shoot football from the seventies.
It's college college flag football. Nobody tackles. It's fifty two
to forty six, and a bunch of these big twelve
quarterbacks just didn't work. So now you look at it
and you think, well, now the NFL and college are
more closer aligned. In fact, I was talking to an
NFL coach probably three weeks ago, a really good NFL coach,
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and he said, Fernanda Mendoza is an easy guy to
scout because so much of what Indiana does has NFL
guys and NFL schemes. So you can watch him and
see what he can do, and see what he can
and he's not an A plus prospect. He's a very
good prospect, he said, but it'll be an easy watch.
They're doing stuff that we do on Sunday, and that's
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not always been the case with college football.
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, I'm not a New Year's resolution guy, j Mac.
I don't know if you are. I don't want to
wait till January first to get my act together. I
was talking to somebody today about that. You know, you
go to a gym in January and it's all packed
by March first. It's not. I uh, I can't. I'm
trying to think of something. I kind of think by
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you know, a lot of times you're influenced when you're
a kid or you're in college, you're influenced by your environment.
By about thirty two, what you do is what you are,
and you're not influenced. You're more mature, you've got more
self awareness. You can't really change stuff. I mean, I
guess if you if somebody said stop smoking, or you'll
pass away. You'd stop doing that or eat better, or
you could. You know it's going to be destructive to
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your life. But I think, by and large, early thirties
kind of you kind of are what you are. I
don't think I've made a massive life change since thirty
two years old. I don't think I'm made or capable
of change. I think change is hard. I think eating amateurs.
Maybe I'm trying to think of a structural change I've
made in my life since thirty two.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah, you don't have a lot of structure. You got
to fly by the seat of your pants. You know
this is a problem, you know, tighten it up, Colhard,
Come on, Jane mcruin news.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
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Speaker 1 (24:47):
This is the herd Line News, all right.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Raven Steelers will be the final game of the twenty
twenty five regular season. Aaron Rodgers will it be his
final game in his storied career. Mike Tomlin was asked
about the potential that this could be the last time
we see Aaron Rodgers on a football field.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
You know, I don't know that I've taken time to
ponder that. I'm just committed to making sure that it's
not He's certainly been an awesome contributor to our efforts,
and not only from a talent perspective and an experienced perspective,
but just his professionalism, his relationship with the game, his
love for his teammates, and his willingness to help them
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grow and get better and gain better understanding each and
every day has been has been cool to be a
part of.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, it's not going to be the prettiest game. I
think I would probably. I don't know how Pittsburgh is
going to move the ball. I really don't. They without
DK Metcalf, they don't have a one or a two
receiver and now Washington's out, so Friarmouth, Warren, cross your fingers,
don't turn it over. I think Pittsburgh could win if
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they you know, Huntley throws a picks. I mean they
Pittsburgh's won games this year with the offense hasn't been good.
They do it about as much as anybody. They just
they can just kind of figure out. Mike Tomlin as
an underdog, figures out ways to inspire his team. I
could see them winning, honestly, seventeen sixteen or something like that.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
It'll be low scoring, but it's interesting. The hold nostalgia
angle of Rogers. I don't get nostalgic for stuff like this,
you know, like I don't get into Hall of Fame speeches.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And honestly, I had not given an ounce of thought.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
If the Steelers lose this and Rogers is done, Okay,
he's done, He's retired, Like, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Does that do anything for you? Are you like man
man that Aaron Rodgers? Like I No, I mean, he's
already a Hall of Famer. What are his numbers this year?
Like I, what is his passer rating this year? He's
not really relevant enough for me to commit that to
memory or even close to it.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Like, he's not a top ten quarterback, So who cares?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
I haven't paid a lot of attention to Rodgers. You know,
I'm kind of rooting again, like I'm into like, let's
get some new stuff. I'm sick of the dead wood. Like,
you know, like Rogers has done. He's not a great
quarterback anymore. Can we see more brock perty? Can we
see more young guys?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I would say the Steeters role is pretty interesting. So
he always completed sixty five percent of his throws, Okay,
ninety five passer rating. When you consider this franchise, run
game history, O line history, last seven years, I think
he's overachieved. If you would have told me, wait, they
overachieved this year. Yeah, if you had have told them
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coming in here, twenty three touchdowns, seven picks, ninety five
passer rating and they make the playoffs if they win Sunday,
I would have been not shocked. I would have said,
oh god, I take that absolutely, take it to the bank.
I mean, go back to the Jets days. So I
think Aaron has more than lifted his weight here. I
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think Aaron's been Honestly, this is the most impressed I've
been with Aaron since maybe one of the MVP years
in Green Bay when he had Lafleur and a better
Old Line and a better culture. Offensively, I think Aaron's
been impressive. I really do.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
So that got me thinking, you were, you know, taking
some jazz at Lebron earlier. It's over Lebron's old. Lebron's
putting up great numbers with the Lakers this year. Who's
having a better year in their forties Lebron with the
Lakers right now or Aaron Rodgers this season with the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Aaron, because I think Aaron's Aaron's yards and completions are
elevating an average team to wins Lebron His plus minus
is one of the worst on the Lakers. He gets
in the way defensively. Aaron's absolutely a plus. Aaron's absolutely
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in terms of decision making. He doesn't turn the ball
over much, he pre snap, he gets you out of trouble.
I mean without DK Metcalf. Without DK Metcalf, Pittsburgh does
not have a receiver in the top ninety according to PFF.
That's not an Aaron Rodgers issue. This place is quicksand,
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and he's somehow kept this team above water.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
All right, I'll see all that stuff and I'll raise
you this. Last year the Steelers went ten and seven,
made the playoffs with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields as
their quarterbacks, and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Is elevating them. Like, I don't. I just don't see
that at all.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I mean, in the AFC last year had a healthy
Lamar and a healthy Patrick Mahomes. So like, are we
sure Rogers? I mean, maybe it's because the AFC's down.
I mean, okay, I just don't see Rogers as being
last year.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The red zone matters, right, good games like the Niners
are good in the red zone. Steelers bottom four red
zone offense last season, this year top half of the league.
That's Aaron. That's just Aaron making smart plays. So I
mean to me, I don't know. I am have been
critical of Aaron. I think he has been everything that
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you could at forty one or forty two. I really
think he's played well.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Hey, I'll say this, he had a great run, Hall
of Fame career. Yes, you know, congrats. I know I
sound a little negative. Come on, maybe I'll be Maybe
that's my New Year's resolution, more positivity from j mac.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is that fair? Well? How about this we contextualize the
Steelers had a top twelve defense last year at fourteen.
This year they're twenty seventh, So Aaron's having to carry
an atrocious defense and now with no DK Metcalf, if
they win Sunday, we have to all give it up
for erin bad defense, no receiver in the top ninety,
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inconsistent run game, and you make the playoffs in the AFC.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Or how about this, if he loses to tire to
Snoop Huntley in Week eighteen, we have.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
To tear down Aaron about a deal.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Let's just shake on it all right, next time the
Chicago Bears, Colin I did not know this debt. Did
the only team in the NFL the history of the
NFL to not have a four thousand yard passer. Now,
Caleb Williams is close. He needs two hundred and seventy
yards to reach that mark. This is kind of hard,
difficult to wrap my head around no four thousand yard passers.
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I mean, the Jets have had so many, Bears haven't
had one. Does Caleb hit the mark with two seventy
this against the Lions in the finale.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
They're certainly capable of it. I mean, burdens now really something.
They've done a lot of it without Rama Dunzee.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
He's supposed to be back now. I don't know what's
up with Burdon and the knee. You're on the ground,
your boots.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
On the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
In Chicago, he'll probably rest him. I got to tell
you something. They've done. This offense has gotten better without
Rama Dunze, which has allowed DJ Moore and Caleb to connect.
Burdens become more of a factor.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Some of it is contextually. The Niners defense can't stop anybody.
Packers didn't have Mica, so yeah, but but Burton has
looked very good.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
He looked like, oh oh, by the way, I thought
about this, I'm blazing five. I've got only three games
I can bet. I literally don't know who's playing these games.
How can you bet five games? I'm looking at the
I'm looking at the report today. We know there's three games.
Everybody's going to try and play Raven Steelers, Niner, Seahawks,
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Panthers Box. After that, everybody's it's like remember the COVID
years where you'd wake up Sunday and a team would
be like, we have eleven guys that can't play, Like,
I don't know how you can make five bets this week.
So you have any to give you a free beat?
This is easy money.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Well, your guy Joe Burrow in the Bengals, they're trying
really hard, they're trying to finish, and it's against Miles
Garrett there on the road.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I should not have done that. We'll save it for
later in the week. Final story Colin Collin's football.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Here we go four good games over the next forty
eight hours. I think this. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana Alabama game,
by the way, could be played in a bit of
a ring storm out here.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
As a heads up for the weather guys.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Here's Mendoza talking about the matchup with Alabama and the
excitement of the game.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Pressure is a privilege, like although that we you know,
you know, the we're the number one seed in the
college ball playoff and with all these high expectations Indiana,
it's the first time Indian has ever done this. We
don't have you know, this win against the Rose bull
We don't have the national championship, we don't have the
semi final win yet, we don't have the Rose Bowl
you know, trophy, or we don't have Roses in our
mouth yet we didn't go get it.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
We gotta go take it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I like this guy, Yeah, I like it. You know.
It's it's we're getting to the point now, is that
everybody's starting to pick apart this kid. I'm starting to read,
you know, all these all these mock drafts and it's like, oh,
he's slipped to five or six, he's going number one.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Well, I'll just say this, The Dante More angle is interesting.
We'll see what happens with him. But he's Mendoza is
no consolation prize. That guy's an awesome talent. I hear
Andrew Luck, and when I watch him, I see like
a young Joe Flacco in Baltimore. Not fleet of foot,
but faster than Flacco. But he just articulates so well
Colin and he seems to be happy when he's talking
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to reporters. You know, he's no serious game face. I
like Indiana against Alabama.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I mean, he's a pocket guy, but he can move. Yeah,
moves moves better than like a Stafford or a golf
He can move. He moves better than Matt Ryan. He
can move a your starter. There's nothing about him. I
don't like. He's not Andrew Luck Athletically, He's not Darnold.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I hear Andrew Luck just like an articulate, intelligent.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Human, big, strong, accurate, playing in a great conference, highly productive.
Went to Outson Stadium, Ohio State couldn't win at Autson
last year. He went to Austin and dominated the Ducks
like more was bad in that game. Yeah, yeah, no,
he's good.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Is there one lock you you want to give out
for the college football Playoff? We haven't trunk lines or
spreads for those much.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, if I get like three and a half. I
would take Tech to cover against Oregon.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
That feels you don't get three and a half, it's
two and a half. Can just pick your lines, buddy. No, No,
Oregon's two and a half. But I mean Indiana seven.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Six and a half seven My best bet, Indiana's gonna
blow Alabama out. I have a feeling that could be
in play. Indiana's gonna blow Alabama out. Do you know
how there's betting percentages are out there.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
One of these guys, I'm not gonna say which company
said that the most bets were on Alabama money line.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Oh no, of the four And I'm like, are people dumb?
I guess there?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
These are the people Joe Public going to Vegas for
New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Hey, let me put a long shot. Alabama was the title.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
It's Alabama and they're in for a rude awakening.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, Indiana's no joke. I mean, how many people can
go to Oregon and hammer Oregon last five six sevenths?
That Ohio State game was even more impressive.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
I thought, Ohas Date would wax them, and I was like, whoa,
this team's legit. That defensive line signetti By the way.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Hey, that guy's good. Well, the old guys can coach
college football now because it's so administrative and transactional. You
buy players. You don't have to be watching high school
games on Friday night. So a Signetti or a Kyle Whittingham.
I mean, if Belichick was any good with personnel, he'd
win in Carolina. You can buy players now. I mean
everybody used to buy players. It was called the SEC,
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and now everybody gets to and the SEC isn't as good.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Let's just say, Jets get to Dante More goes one.
Can the Jets get Mendoza and Signetti? Is that in play?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No shot? First of all, Mendoza's going ahead of Dante
more and Dante Moore staying in college. Let avoid dream.
Come on Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
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Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
One of my favorite NFL guys. I just learned he's
obsessed with football.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's next I heard.
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Speaker 1 (37:07):
I'm fine. Days. I tend to think about my days
in sections. Days are very long. Let's say you sleep.
I can give you seven and a half hours a
day to sleep. I can give you an hour to
work out, two total hours to eat, three and a
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half hours to socialize, listen to music, read, hang out.
If I ask it at work, the other ten hours?
Am I demanding? Days are long? Won't you ever find
yourself like scrolling on the phone, sitting around waiting for stuff.
You can give yourself three and a half hours of socializing,
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seven and a half sleep, work out for an hour
to an hour and a half, a couple hours to eat,
ten hours left in a day. And so yeah, like
I like my football players to be kind of obsessed,
to kind of think football a lot. Not all day,
but a lot. I don't think working or thinking about
work ten hours a day is asking much if I
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pay you millions of dollars and Max Crosby was talking
to Jim Gray recently and he said, yeah, I'm one
of those crazy guys that loves the game.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
My whole life has been football in sports like that
has been my obsession since I was a little kid.
I love the game, man, this is this is my
whole life. And when I look back, I know I'm
never going to look in the mirror and say, damn,
I wish that would have worked a little harder.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I think that is such a healthy way to live.
Like I watch Sean mcvay's press conference after he loses,
he's sick. He looks pale Shanahan after he loses, like
they Bill Parcells, Like Bill Parcells, Tony Romo fumbled a
snap in Seattle going for the game winning kick, and
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like Parcell said, it's not healthy. I can't coach like this.
I'm getting ill. That's okay. I love Max Crosby, but
Jay Glazer said this years ago, the great Ones, the Mannings,
the Mahomes, that they're all a little obsessed. I'm okay
with it. So we were talking earlier about generally, I
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feel pretty good about quarterbacks, Like I like this guy,
I don't like that guy, like this guy, I don't
like that guy. I have a pretty good track record.
I feel prety good about it. Not perfect like anybody
would be. I think one of the guys that's hard
to kind of grasp is any quarterback that's with Kyle Shanahan.
Matt shab was a pro bowler, Matt Ryan's MVP. Garoppolo
got to a Super Bowl. Brock Purty looks unbelievable. I
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do think there's a stat in this league which tends
to really tell the truth about quarterbacks. When everybody in
the league knows you have to throw, that's different than
play action or playing with the lead or playing with
a great run game. When I know you've got to throw,
how good are you? That's when Brady was unbelievable. That's
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when Mahomes has been unbelievable in their careers. Brock Purtty
and bon Nicks when trailing with four minutes left, bow
Knicks is a pro bowler. Brock Purty eighty five passer rating,
three touchdown, six picks. Bo Nicks is as good as
any quarterback in the league. One guy goes first round,
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one guy's last pick. I do think brock Purty is
more situational than bon Nicks. I think bo Nick's a
better athlete. I think Bonnicks makes fewer mistakes. I think
he's better trailing. I think he's consistently better late. I
don't think it's conditional. I don't think he has to
have his best running back or best tied end, or
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best wide receiver. But as Greg Cosel said, there are
things that Perdy does that are exceptional.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Defenses change, they change the picture pre snap to post snap.
You can't be oblivit is to the defense. And I
think Purdy just has such an innate feel of seeing
it right away. Whatever it is, he sees it right away.
You know two things that he does so well that
we're tough to know in college timing and anticipation and
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just innately seeing it right away.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
And that's what Sam Darnold said about Brock Purdy. That's
what Donald said when he went to San Francisco for
that year and people asked him about it, and he
said it privately and publicly. Brock Pretty's ability, smart kid
to cognitively see it, let it rip and get the
ball there. Man, he sees the field
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go our two New Year's eve. Ohio State
take it on Miami tonight. If Carson Beck plays pretty
well and it's not easy against the buck guys, I
think you have a competitive game. I like Ohio State.
I think their defense is the best in the country,
but I think Miami upfront is tough and physical. Miami
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is a much better team today than they were eight
weeks ago, so they played very well. I thought they
should get in over Notre Dame. I liked them on
the road to be Texas A and M and I
think tonight could be. You know, I just think it's
hard for everybody to wrap their brains around how good
Indiana is. People say, well, Ohio State lost Indiana. Indiana
could be the best team in the country. They have
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the best quarterback in the country. So if you look
at those games tonight, I college football playoff. To me,
if you love college football, you had to give up
some stuff to get here. It wasn't gonna be perfect.
I know a lot of you loved, loved bowl games.
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They don't matter anymore. I know a lot of you
love the SEC championship, Conference championships, getting the way. I
know a lot of you love those classic rivalries. Some
will state, some won't. College football played with their food
for fifty years, and finally Fox and the SPN stepped
then and said, let the grown ups take over. It's
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gonna look like a little bit of the NFL. It's
like boxing. It died. Why because not because you didn't
have good boxers run by promoters self serving promoters. I mean,
if you look around at college football was an eight
billion dollar industry with no CEO. You couldn't even get
the schedules right. So it's always been a sport that's
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a great movie with a bad ending. At least now
the ending's good. I mean, you say what you want
starting tonight, the ending's great eight teams, a West Coast power,
blue bloods, newcomers. I mean the only thing that I
regret about this is that I wish Lane Kiffin had
stayed and just said, I'm gonna run the table. See
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if I can win all these games. I don't think
they would be good enough to.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Win the Natty.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I would have loved to have seen, you know, Lane
kiffen with Old Miss. Now it's you know, it's choppy ending.
But I think I think to me, college football felt
sometimes and I love it hoky and like tribal and
regional and provincial. It's like now it feels like players
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get paid, players can transfer, We've got a real playoff system.
It wasn't going to be perfect, you know when you
started the Internet until today it's amazing, but there was
going to be some bad stuff on the Internet and AI.
You know, about ten years ago people talked about it.
Now we're in the throes of it and not going
to be pretty. What's it look like when we ultimately
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get AI functional for everybody in the country, like the Internet.
So I look at college football, I like the ending's good.
I'm getting Miami in Ohio State tonight, Georgia, Old Miss, Indiana,
Alabama blue Blood, new Guy in the Block, and Oregon,
Texas Tech. I love the sport. I think it's great.
With that. Greg Cosel forty six years NFL film stops by.
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You know, I had Mike Vrabel on yesterday and I said,
you know, obviously we thought he was good. I didn't
think he would be this good this quick. How how
do the Patriots You saw him at Carolina, you saw
him last year. Greg, when you look at film, how
do the Patriots play to his straints?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, I think you always look at what your quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
You play to your quarterback.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And I think one of the things that has really
stood out to me about Drake May has just been
his toughness in the pocket. I mean, we know he
can move, we know he's athletic, we know we can
throw on the run, but he is not a guy
that is affected by bodies around him. He is really
firm and tough in the pocket and he stays there
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and that allows plays to play out and develop. Colin
And you know, there's so many quarterbacks now that are
great athletes, and I'm sure as a coach you don't
want to tell a quarterback who's a great athlete never
to move. But the result often of quarterbacks that move
is that they move too soon. They break down the
timing and structure of the play, and they leave plays
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on the Now. They may run for twenty yards at times,
and you're obviously good to say, hey, good play, but
at the end of the day, you really want the
plays to be run the way they're practiced. This is
what coaches do during the week. And it's not just
the quarterback. It's the O line, it's the receivers, it's
the running backs, it's everybody works together in a structure,
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and may allows that structure to play out to its fullest.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So we watched the Rams get beat by Atlanta, and
we went back and looked at a number that they're
strangely like. We've seen Seattle win when Sam didn't play well.
We've seen the Niners win with Mac Jones. We've seen
the Bears win do their run game. But if you
look at the Rams, if Stafford struggles, they lose. And
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he had a lot of time to throw, and it
was almost as if, I mean, he airmailed a couple throws,
and you're like, Matt, you are as good arm talent
as the league shows. When you watch Stafford and he
gets a little unhinged and un ravels, is it tempo
is at his feet because I thought Monday early it
just there were open receivers, or maybe it was just
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there weren't Maybe the film said they had him schemed, right,
what did you see?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I mean, look, I think that he just had a
game where he was inaccurate on certain throws. I remember
working with Ron Jowarski for one hundred years, and Joe's
would tell me there's two games a year where you
just didn't throw it great, and you know, you never
know what those two games are going to be, and
when those games happen, you hope that the rest of
the team picks you up.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And I think Stafford just did not have a good game.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
But I would not use this game as a statement
as to what Matthew Stafford is. And by the way,
their run game has been very good for the most part.
It's just they don't have an explosive back, so you
don't think of it the way you think of And
by the way, b Joan Robinson to me is the
best back in the league. But their run game is
just not explosive. It's much more of a sustaining, grinding
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run game. But it's been very good. I mean, you
have one back that's got about eleven hundred yards and
another back that's probably close to eight hundred yards. It's
been a very strong run game, and so I don't
look at this game and.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Say there's something wrong with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Now there's no question, even though he's not a true statue,
that he's a pocket quarterback and if you can get
consistent pressure on him, you will speed him up a little.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
There's no question about that. That's true of any quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So Buffalo is fascinating. They're twenty third. They do a
lot of their scoring in the second half and in
the first half. They have been trailing in seven of
the last eight games in the second half, which is remarkable.
And I said this week it's remarkable they have the
number one run game because they trail in the second
half in all these games. Why are they the first
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half is more of the scripted half usually. Why are
they so bad and inconsistent in the first half in Buffalo?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, I think, first of all, they are a running
football team, and I think that that's evident, and I
think that that's the way they stabilize their offense. That's
the way they create create sustainability with their offense by
running the football. They're very limited to some degree in
the past game, Colin, because the one thing that they
don't have, and if you listen to any really smart
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you know, the Tom Brady so who I know you
talked to the Troy Aikman's if you listen to those guys,
at some point in this league, you need receivers on
the outside who can win one on one. They do
not have that. So there's a limitation to what they
can do in the past game. So the pass game
therefore has to be highly schemed, and you know, sometimes
that works and sometimes it doesn't. You know, I saw
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a play last week where they ran one of their
staple plays, really beautiful play that's worked many times for them,
where they send James Cook on a rail route through
the line of scrimmage. They've hit big plays on that
many many times over the last couple of years. And
Zach Bond saw it immediately and he just ran right
with Cook and it was incomplete. So it's a highly
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schemed pass game by necessity because they just can't win
one on one on the outside. So that puts a
tremendous limitation on their past game. And the reality is,
we know Josh Allen is a great player, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Not the point.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But you know, those kinds of superman plays that can't
be the foundation of how you go about winning every week.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So let's talk Philadelphia. It's so interesting you were critical
of them about a month ago on this show. You said,
you know, they're their offense is kind of you know,
it's kind of simple. And then suddenly suddenly the next
three weeks you're like, well, maybe it's not so simple.
So if you were an Eagles fan, they're going to
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rest some starters here week eighteen. Do you like there?
Do you like their momentum going into the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, I didn't think they did a very good job
on tape in the past game. This week, I thought,
although I thought Jalen Hurts played very well in the
first half.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yes, and in the second.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
In the second half, you know, they had those five
drives and they had seventeen plays for seventeen yards and
he didn't complete a pass. So it's very odd and
it's not his I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying
it's very odd. But you know, their run game has
just not been what we've expected it to be all
the year, with the exception of a few moments, you know,
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they're all line quite frankly, if you'll look at tape,
has not been very good. I think Cam Jurgens has
had a really difficult season at center. I think the
sort of chemistry between Jurgens and the left guard Dickerson
hasn't been what it was a year ago. So I
think at their core, Colin, they're a running football team.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
They are a great defensive team, which they are now.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Their defense has led the league in points allowed over
the last eight weeks, and they have a quarterback who,
when he's at his best, is really good at understanding
his role within the structure of their entire team, doesn't
turn the ball over, executes in big moments. But they're
not a true passing team, So you know, I'd like
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to see them do more in the pass game.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They I think they're capable of it, but they just don't.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So we know this to be true. There are offensive
coaches in this sport that are just really good with
young quarterbacks, Sean Pape, bow Nicks, Ben Johnson with Kyle
I thought Caleb played now. The Niners don't generate much
of a pass rush unless Sala has blitz packages. But
in the last few weeks he's not taken sacks. Caleb's
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never thrown a bunch at interceptions. He's not a big
interception guy, wasn't it usc But when you look at
Caleb today, if I gave you last week's tape and
eight weeks ago, it must look different because the results
feel different to me.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Well, I gotta tell you, Colin, I watched that tape.
I watched both sides of the ball in that game
really carefully because it was a really fun watch.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And I said to the guys in my matchup room.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
After I watched Caleb, or as I was watching him,
I said, you know what, this guy's going to be
a great quarterback. I just felt like I was watching
a really good player. Now, granted he wasn't under a
lot of pressure, and I know the forty nine ers
defense doesn't necessarily present a lot of pressure, but still,
I'm just isolating the play of the quarterback. We just
saw him throw that touchdown to Burden. I don't think
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people realize how difficult a throw that was and how
easy he made it look. You know, I think he'll
get better at some of the scattershot throws I would
assume he would. I don't think he's a naturally inaccurate
pass or by any means. You know, he's just going
to have to get a little better with his accuracy
on some throws that are you know, layups by NFL standards.
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But I mean he's just so physically gifted, and I
mean he's such an easy natural thrower to the football.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, now let's talk about two offenses that are the
opposite of that, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. The ware he's going
to go to the playoffs. I have defended Aaron Rodgers
all year on this show. I've said, guys, DK me
CAFs not exactly running every route in the tree he's
now out. They're very tight end centric. I don't know
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how they move the ball against Baltimore. I again, it's
a Pittsburgh. Tomlin is an underdog, has always been effective.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I look at Aaron this year and my take is
the reason he's struggling is once again, they can't run
the ball. He doesn't really have a number two receiver.
I don't blame Aaron or Tomlin. I don't is there
offensive personality good.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's not great, And Rogers is a guy that likes
to work one on ones on the outside, and they
don't have those guys, So a lot of times there's
routes that look like they're available, and again we don't
know how he's taught or what the reds are. So
it's always easy to criticize if you see a three
by one set and the trip side looks like the
routes there and he works to the one on ones.
He's always worked to the one on ones. And when
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you have good receivers, I mean I remember speaking to
coaches so many times over the years, Colin, and if
it's a three by one set, meaning three receivers to
one side and a single receiver usually to the boundary
side the short side, and if that guy's one on one,
pretty much every coach will tell you, hey, you throw
to the one on one.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's matchup football. It's the NFL.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
The issue is they don't necessarily have those guys, so
you know, it's it comes across as Rogers not quote
unquote running the offense, but we don't know, you know,
how they teach it and what they want him to do,
but they just don't have those guys. So it's been
very very difficult. In fact, the last time they played
Baltimore and Metcalf played, and he's not playing in this game.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
They've worked the one on ones beautifully, but it was Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So we'll see what they do this week. On the
flip side, it's going to be Derrick Henry, I mean.
And the most amazing thing about this is the use
of recard the fallback Dereck Henry a very high percentage
of his runs this year have been with recard on
the field, and last week in the game against Green
Bay eighteen for one forty with a recard on the
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field as an high formation fallback. So that's the way
they're going to go, no matter who plays quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, so before we get to the Niners and I
have to eat some cow on purty before we get
to that, the staff is almost rooting against me because
they know my affection for Sam Darnold. I do think
Seattle is more of a defensive story than an offensive story.
But I will say Sam worked very well last year
with Justin Jefferson. I think he and JSN have exceptional
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timing this year. Two different coaches, two different offenses, two
different styles. I think that's hard to do and be
a pro bowler in both. But I will say when
I watch them, if you can bracket JSN, I'm not
necessarily sure what I trust. Offensively, I think they're they're
a defensive story to me, what's the film say they are?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
And I think you would agree that their past game
over the last month has been uneven.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's right, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I mean the first part.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Of the season they really push the ball down the
field and had great success. The last month it's been uneven. Look,
their run game worked. Last week we saw Charbonneau get
one to ten. I doubt that happens every week, you know.
I don't think that would happen against the Niners, but
who knows. But their run game, they have not had
a run game this year, Colin to really fall back
on when the past game has been somewhat uneven, which
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it has been, So you're right, it's really been JSN
and not much else in the past game, and that's
been a little bit of a concern. So, you know,
I almost look at this game the other side of
the ball, because if the Niners can score a lot,
and I don't know that they will, this is a
really good defense, and they're at the forefront of the
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big nickel in the NFL, which has become a trend
with three safeties instead of three linebackers. Nicki min Warry
is such a key to what Seattle does on defense,
and their d line has been absolutely phenomenal. I mean,
I'm not sure a lot of people are talking about
Byron Murphy, but he's You know, there's two defensive tackles
this year that have played so well, and one's on
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a really bad team, Jeffrey Simmons, who I think has
been the best de tackle in the league. But Byron
Murphy has played really, really well, and in the context
of that Seattle defense, no one's talking about him.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Okay, listen, I've said I like rockfordy, but the last
month he has been sensational. And in fact, before this
past week, he'd never won a game when Kittle didn't play.
I think it was if you go back to his career,
he struggles without Kittle, So I thought this week and
it would be choppy. No, he was sensational. You tell
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me what makes him? Yeah, And I mean Garoppolo and
Mac Jones, Matt Schaub, everybody feels I mean, they worked
to some degree with Shanahan, but it feels like of
all the quarterbacks he's ever had, this kid, Shannan just
loves him for a lot of reasons. What's the film say? Why?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I mean, I know you talked to Brady pretty much
every week, and I'd love to get his take on
this whole time of pure progression, because pure progression is
what the forty nine ers are based on. And I
think the pure progression in its purest form is that
the quarterback doesn't really need to know much about defense.
But I think in the NFL that's it can't quite
be like that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It's not the same as old school offensive football, where
you know, you pick.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
A side, a man's side, his own side.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
It's not like that, but it's but I think you
have to have some sense of defense to some degree.
But I think Purdy, and particularly in this year of
NFL football, comin where defenses change, they change the picture
pre snap to post snap, you can't be oblivious to
the defense. And I think Purdy just has such an
innate feel of seeing it right away. Whatever it is,
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he sees it right away. And that was hard to
know coming out of college because the college game is
so different, you know, with the hashmark spread further apart,
there's more open space. And I just think that, you know,
two things that he does so well that we're tough
to know in college, timing and anticipation and just innately
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seeing it right away. And I think the play we're
going to show is a great example. I mean, I'm
sure it was pure progression, and I'm sure the Jennings
touchdown was the read and we can go to that
play right now. I'm sure the Jennings touchdown was the
primary read because they throw those inbreakers all the.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Time and they got the right coverage for it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
So I mean, ultimately, you know, that's what happened here,
and we'll break it down because I thought this was
absolutely beautiful, but it just, you know, it's fascinating to me.
It's a real wonderful philosophical discussion. So Purty's in the
gun here and they're in a two by two set,
and the two key players here are going to be
used Check and Jennings. They're on the left side of
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the formation. Now you're going to see used Check going
shortened motion here, and that's important because what that is
going to do is it's going to expand the corner
and it's going to give Jennings free access into his
route because you don't his timing disrupted. That's so critical
in these pure progression schemes. Now, look what you get
from a coverage standpoint. You're going to get cover two here,
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and then the mic linebacker Edwards, he's going to open
to the wide side of the field. That's what you
normally do in cover two. So now what we get
back to is we get Jennings dig route. And like
I said, that's the primary read. That's the sequencing, the
number one in the sequence. Now tongue is the tight end.
He's going to run right at Edwards and he holds
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him down and it works perfectly on this play because
what you get here is a big void. And so now,
as I said, I'm almost positive this is the primary read.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
But now he's going to make.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
This throw into the void and he hits Jennings in
stride with run after catch and it becomes a touchdown.
And we're going to show this play from behind perty Colin,
because I want people to see the timing and anticipation
that's involved here. And I think I'm not sure you
can teach this right now, Look where Jennings is. Purdy
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has just started to separate his hands to throw the ball.
So you know, you talk about an innate sense and
feel for timing and anticipation, which, by the way, is
essential in a Mike Shanahan offense. I've heard Steve Young
talk about that, you know, with Bill Walls, about how
you have to make the throw before the guy is
where he is.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You know, you've got to trust it. And Purdy does
that exceptionally well.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yep, Greg Cosel forty six years NFL films as ohs, Greg,
great stuff. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Thanks Colin, Happy New year. Talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, college football and pro football feel more aligned. But
it was four or five six years ago. I remember
when Mahomes came out, and he came out what seven
eight years ago? When Mahomes came out, I was one
of them. I'm like, none of these big twelve quarterbacks
work in the NFL. It's all like flag football. It's
a pillow fight if this stuff gonna work. And you know,
I mean why, I mean I watched Mahomes play like
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once or twice in college football. My take is this
is not it's run and shoot football from the seventies.
It's college college flag football. Nobody tackles. It's fifty two
to forty six, and a bunch of these big twelve
quarterbacks just didn't work. So now you look at it
and you think, well, now the NFL and college are
more closer aligned. In fact, I was talking to an
NFL coach probably three weeks ago, a really good NFL coach,
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and he said, Fernanda Mendoza is an easy guy to
scout because so much of what Indiana does has NFL
guys and NFL schemes. So you can watch him and
see what he can do, and see what he can
and he's not an A plus prospect. He's a very
good prospect, he said, but it'll be an easy watch.
They're doing stuff that we do on Sunday, and that's
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not always been the case with college football.
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, I'm not a New Year's resolution guy, j Mac.
I don't know if you are. I don't want to
wait till January first to get my act together. I
was talking to somebody today about that. You know, you
go to a gym in January and it's all packed
by March first. It's not. I uh, I can't. I'm
trying to think of something. I kind of think by
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you know, a lot of times you're influenced when you're
a kid or you're in college, you're influenced by your environment.
By about thirty two, what you do is what you are,
and you're not influenced. You're more mature, you've got more
self awareness. You can't really change stuff. I mean, I
guess if you if somebody said stop smoking, or you'll
pass away. You'd stop doing that or eat better, or
you could. You know it's going to be destructive to
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your life. But I think, by and large, early thirties
kind of you kind of are what you are. I
don't think I've made a massive life change since thirty
two years old. I don't think I'm made or capable
of change. I think change is hard. I think eating amateurs.
Maybe I'm trying to think of a structural change I've
made in my life since thirty two.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah, you don't have a lot of structure. You got
to fly by the seat of your pants. You know
this is a problem, you know, tighten it up, Colhard,
Come on, Jane mcruin news.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
No, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
This is the herd Line News, all right.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Raven Steelers will be the final game of the twenty
twenty five regular season. Aaron Rodgers will it be his
final game in his storied career. Mike Tomlin was asked
about the potential that this could be the last time
we see Aaron Rodgers on a football field.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
You know, I don't know that I've taken time to
ponder that. I'm just committed to making sure that it's
not He's certainly been an awesome contributor to our efforts,
and not only from a talent perspective and an experienced perspective,
but just his professionalism, his relationship with the game, his
love for his teammates, and his willingness to help them
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grow and get better and gain better understanding each and
every day has been has been cool to be a
part of.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, it's not going to be the prettiest game. I
think I would probably. I don't know how Pittsburgh is
going to move the ball. I really don't. They without
DK Metcalf, they don't have a one or a two
receiver and now Washington's out, so Friarmouth, Warren, cross your fingers,
don't turn it over. I think Pittsburgh could win if
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they you know, Huntley throws a picks. I mean they
Pittsburgh's won games this year with the offense hasn't been good.
They do it about as much as anybody. They just
they can just kind of figure out. Mike Tomlin as
an underdog, figures out ways to inspire his team. I
could see them winning, honestly, seventeen sixteen or something like that.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
It'll be low scoring, but it's interesting. The hold nostalgia
angle of Rogers. I don't get nostalgic for stuff like this,
you know, like I don't get into Hall of Fame speeches.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And honestly, I had not given an ounce of thought.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
If the Steelers lose this and Rogers is done, Okay,
he's done, He's retired, Like, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Does that do anything for you? Are you like man
man that Aaron Rodgers? Like I No, I mean, he's
already a Hall of Famer. What are his numbers this year?
Like I, what is his passer rating this year? He's
not really relevant enough for me to commit that to
memory or even close to it.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Like, he's not a top ten quarterback, So who cares?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
I haven't paid a lot of attention to Rodgers. You know,
I'm kind of rooting again, like I'm into like, let's
get some new stuff. I'm sick of the dead wood. Like,
you know, like Rogers has done. He's not a great
quarterback anymore. Can we see more brock perty? Can we
see more young guys?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I would say the Steeters role is pretty interesting. So
he always completed sixty five percent of his throws, Okay,
ninety five passer rating. When you consider this franchise, run
game history, O line history, last seven years, I think
he's overachieved. If you would have told me, wait, they
overachieved this year. Yeah, if you had have told them
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coming in here, twenty three touchdowns, seven picks, ninety five
passer rating and they make the playoffs if they win Sunday,
I would have been not shocked. I would have said,
oh god, I take that absolutely, take it to the bank.
I mean, go back to the Jets days. So I
think Aaron has more than lifted his weight here. I
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think Aaron's been Honestly, this is the most impressed I've
been with Aaron since maybe one of the MVP years
in Green Bay when he had Lafleur and a better
Old Line and a better culture. Offensively, I think Aaron's
been impressive. I really do.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
So that got me thinking, you were, you know, taking
some jazz at Lebron earlier. It's over Lebron's old. Lebron's
putting up great numbers with the Lakers this year. Who's
having a better year in their forties Lebron with the
Lakers right now or Aaron Rodgers this season with the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Aaron, because I think Aaron's Aaron's yards and completions are
elevating an average team to wins Lebron His plus minus
is one of the worst on the Lakers. He gets
in the way defensively. Aaron's absolutely a plus. Aaron's absolutely
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in terms of decision making. He doesn't turn the ball
over much, he pre snap, he gets you out of trouble.
I mean without DK Metcalf. Without DK Metcalf, Pittsburgh does
not have a receiver in the top ninety according to PFF.
That's not an Aaron Rodgers issue. This place is quicksand,
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and he's somehow kept this team above water.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
All right, I'll see all that stuff and I'll raise
you this. Last year the Steelers went ten and seven,
made the playoffs with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields as
their quarterbacks, and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Is elevating them. Like, I don't. I just don't see
that at all.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I mean, in the AFC last year had a healthy
Lamar and a healthy Patrick Mahomes. So like, are we
sure Rogers? I mean, maybe it's because the AFC's down.
I mean, okay, I just don't see Rogers as being
last year.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The red zone matters, right, good games like the Niners
are good in the red zone. Steelers bottom four red
zone offense last season, this year top half of the league.
That's Aaron. That's just Aaron making smart plays. So I
mean to me, I don't know. I am have been
critical of Aaron. I think he has been everything that
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you could at forty one or forty two. I really
think he's played well.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Hey, I'll say this, he had a great run, Hall
of Fame career. Yes, you know, congrats. I know I
sound a little negative. Come on, maybe I'll be Maybe
that's my New Year's resolution, more positivity from j mac.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is that fair? Well? How about this we contextualize the
Steelers had a top twelve defense last year at fourteen.
This year they're twenty seventh, So Aaron's having to carry
an atrocious defense and now with no DK Metcalf, if
they win Sunday, we have to all give it up
for erin bad defense, no receiver in the top ninety,
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inconsistent run game, and you make the playoffs in the AFC.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Or how about this, if he loses to tire to
Snoop Huntley in Week eighteen, we have.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
To tear down Aaron about a deal.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Let's just shake on it all right, next time the
Chicago Bears, Colin I did not know this debt. Did
the only team in the NFL the history of the
NFL to not have a four thousand yard passer. Now,
Caleb Williams is close. He needs two hundred and seventy
yards to reach that mark. This is kind of hard,
difficult to wrap my head around no four thousand yard passers.
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I mean, the Jets have had so many, Bears haven't
had one. Does Caleb hit the mark with two seventy
this against the Lions in the finale.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
They're certainly capable of it. I mean, burdens now really something.
They've done a lot of it without Rama Dunzee.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
He's supposed to be back now. I don't know what's
up with Burdon and the knee. You're on the ground,
your boots.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
On the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
In Chicago, he'll probably rest him. I got to tell
you something. They've done. This offense has gotten better without
Rama Dunze, which has allowed DJ Moore and Caleb to connect.
Burdens become more of a factor.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Some of it is contextually. The Niners defense can't stop anybody.
Packers didn't have Mica, so yeah, but but Burton has
looked very good.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
He looked like, oh oh, by the way, I thought
about this, I'm blazing five. I've got only three games
I can bet. I literally don't know who's playing these games.
How can you bet five games? I'm looking at the
I'm looking at the report today. We know there's three games.
Everybody's going to try and play Raven Steelers, Niner, Seahawks,
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Panthers Box. After that, everybody's it's like remember the COVID
years where you'd wake up Sunday and a team would
be like, we have eleven guys that can't play, Like,
I don't know how you can make five bets this week.
So you have any to give you a free beat?
This is easy money.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Well, your guy Joe Burrow in the Bengals, they're trying
really hard, they're trying to finish, and it's against Miles
Garrett there on the road.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I should not have done that. We'll save it for
later in the week. Final story Colin Collin's football.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Here we go four good games over the next forty
eight hours. I think this. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana Alabama game,
by the way, could be played in a bit of
a ring storm out here.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
As a heads up for the weather guys.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Here's Mendoza talking about the matchup with Alabama and the
excitement of the game.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Pressure is a privilege, like although that we you know,
you know, the we're the number one seed in the
college ball playoff and with all these high expectations Indiana,
it's the first time Indian has ever done this. We
don't have you know, this win against the Rose bull
We don't have the national championship, we don't have the
semi final win yet, we don't have the Rose Bowl
you know, trophy, or we don't have Roses in our
mouth yet we didn't go get it.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
We gotta go take it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I like this guy, Yeah, I like it. You know.
It's it's we're getting to the point now, is that
everybody's starting to pick apart this kid. I'm starting to read,
you know, all these all these mock drafts and it's like, oh,
he's slipped to five or six, he's going number one.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Well, I'll just say this, The Dante More angle is interesting.
We'll see what happens with him. But he's Mendoza is
no consolation prize. That guy's an awesome talent. I hear
Andrew Luck, and when I watch him, I see like
a young Joe Flacco in Baltimore. Not fleet of foot,
but faster than Flacco. But he just articulates so well
Colin and he seems to be happy when he's talking
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to reporters. You know, he's no serious game face. I
like Indiana against Alabama.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I mean, he's a pocket guy, but he can move. Yeah,
moves moves better than like a Stafford or a golf
He can move. He moves better than Matt Ryan. He
can move a your starter. There's nothing about him. I
don't like. He's not Andrew Luck Athletically, He's not Darnold.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I hear Andrew Luck just like an articulate, intelligent.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Human, big, strong, accurate, playing in a great conference, highly productive.
Went to Outson Stadium, Ohio State couldn't win at Autson
last year. He went to Austin and dominated the Ducks
like more was bad in that game. Yeah, yeah, no,
he's good.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Is there one lock you you want to give out
for the college football Playoff? We haven't trunk lines or
spreads for those much.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, if I get like three and a half. I
would take Tech to cover against Oregon.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
That feels you don't get three and a half, it's
two and a half. Can just pick your lines, buddy. No, No,
Oregon's two and a half. But I mean Indiana seven.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Six and a half seven My best bet, Indiana's gonna
blow Alabama out. I have a feeling that could be
in play. Indiana's gonna blow Alabama out. Do you know
how there's betting percentages are out there.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
One of these guys, I'm not gonna say which company
said that the most bets were on Alabama money line.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Oh no, of the four And I'm like, are people dumb?
I guess there?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
These are the people Joe Public going to Vegas for
New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Hey, let me put a long shot. Alabama was the title.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
It's Alabama and they're in for a rude awakening.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, Indiana's no joke. I mean, how many people can
go to Oregon and hammer Oregon last five six sevenths?
That Ohio State game was even more impressive.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
I thought, Ohas Date would wax them, and I was like, whoa,
this team's legit. That defensive line signetti By the way.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Hey, that guy's good. Well, the old guys can coach
college football now because it's so administrative and transactional. You
buy players. You don't have to be watching high school
games on Friday night. So a Signetti or a Kyle Whittingham.
I mean, if Belichick was any good with personnel, he'd
win in Carolina. You can buy players now. I mean
everybody used to buy players. It was called the SEC,
(36:14):
and now everybody gets to and the SEC isn't as good.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Let's just say, Jets get to Dante More goes one.
Can the Jets get Mendoza and Signetti? Is that in play?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No shot? First of all, Mendoza's going ahead of Dante
more and Dante Moore staying in college. Let avoid dream.
Come on Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
One of my favorite NFL guys. I just learned he's
obsessed with football.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's next I heard.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
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Speaker 1 (37:07):
I'm fine. Days. I tend to think about my days
in sections. Days are very long. Let's say you sleep.
I can give you seven and a half hours a
day to sleep. I can give you an hour to
work out, two total hours to eat, three and a
(37:27):
half hours to socialize, listen to music, read, hang out.
If I ask it at work, the other ten hours?
Am I demanding? Days are long? Won't you ever find
yourself like scrolling on the phone, sitting around waiting for stuff.
You can give yourself three and a half hours of socializing,
(37:49):
seven and a half sleep, work out for an hour
to an hour and a half, a couple hours to eat,
ten hours left in a day. And so yeah, like
I like my football players to be kind of obsessed,
to kind of think football a lot. Not all day,
but a lot. I don't think working or thinking about
work ten hours a day is asking much if I
(38:11):
pay you millions of dollars and Max Crosby was talking
to Jim Gray recently and he said, yeah, I'm one
of those crazy guys that loves the game.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
My whole life has been football in sports like that
has been my obsession since I was a little kid.
I love the game, man, this is this is my
whole life. And when I look back, I know I'm
never going to look in the mirror and say, damn,
I wish that would have worked a little harder.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I think that is such a healthy way to live.
Like I watch Sean mcvay's press conference after he loses,
he's sick. He looks pale Shanahan after he loses, like
they Bill Parcells, Like Bill Parcells, Tony Romo fumbled a
snap in Seattle going for the game winning kick, and
(38:58):
like Parcell said, it's not healthy. I can't coach like this.
I'm getting ill. That's okay. I love Max Crosby, but
Jay Glazer said this years ago, the great Ones, the Mannings,
the Mahomes, that they're all a little obsessed. I'm okay
with it. So we were talking earlier about generally, I
(39:20):
feel pretty good about quarterbacks, Like I like this guy,
I don't like that guy, like this guy, I don't
like that guy. I have a pretty good track record.
I feel prety good about it. Not perfect like anybody
would be. I think one of the guys that's hard
to kind of grasp is any quarterback that's with Kyle Shanahan.
Matt shab was a pro bowler, Matt Ryan's MVP. Garoppolo
got to a Super Bowl. Brock Purty looks unbelievable. I
(39:40):
do think there's a stat in this league which tends
to really tell the truth about quarterbacks. When everybody in
the league knows you have to throw, that's different than
play action or playing with the lead or playing with
a great run game. When I know you've got to throw,
how good are you? That's when Brady was unbelievable. That's
(40:03):
when Mahomes has been unbelievable in their careers. Brock Purtty
and bon Nicks when trailing with four minutes left, bow
Knicks is a pro bowler. Brock Purty eighty five passer rating,
three touchdown, six picks. Bo Nicks is as good as
any quarterback in the league. One guy goes first round,
(40:24):
one guy's last pick. I do think brock Purty is
more situational than bon Nicks. I think bo Nick's a
better athlete. I think Bonnicks makes fewer mistakes. I think
he's better trailing. I think he's consistently better late. I
don't think it's conditional. I don't think he has to
have his best running back or best tied end, or
(40:46):
best wide receiver. But as Greg Cosel said, there are
things that Perdy does that are exceptional.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Defenses change, they change the picture pre snap to post snap.
You can't be oblivit is to the defense. And I
think Purdy just has such an innate feel of seeing
it right away. Whatever it is, he sees it right away.
You know two things that he does so well that
we're tough to know in college timing and anticipation and
(41:15):
just innately seeing it right away.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
And that's what Sam Darnold said about Brock Purdy. That's
what Donald said when he went to San Francisco for
that year and people asked him about it, and he
said it privately and publicly. Brock Pretty's ability, smart kid
to cognitively see it, let it rip and get the
ball there. Man, he sees the field
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