January 5, 2026 • 33 mins
3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman joins The Herd to talk about the teams to worry about heading into the playoffs, if the Rams are in trouble after a shaky end of their regular season, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, the playoffs are different.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
A man who won a lot of playoff games, a
three time Super Bowl champ, twelve years in the NFL,
a Super Bowl MVP, Julian Edelman Fox Sports is now
joining us live. All right, let's go to your first
playoff game, because Drake may is gonna be his first
playoff game, Caleb william Is going to be his first
playoff game. Go to your first playoff game, nerves. What's
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the difference between Week twelve?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The first playoff game is always it's a fun experience,
but it's a very there's a sense of urgency that
just gives it's kicked up, especially.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Where we were.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
We were playing against the Ravens. It was the one
where right out the gate they went eighty six with
Ray Rice and it was kind of an uphill battle
from there. But the playoffs. Like you always talk about
the speed of the game from you know, preseason training
camp to the regular season to like the late of
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the season and playoffs start, and it just seems like
the games faster and faster each week. You keep on playing,
and the machines, the machines of the teams are well
oiled to that point, so you're not playing any bad teams.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So you know, it's a fun time of the year.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You make your money in the regular season, you make
your name in that postseason.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
We're about to see a lot of new big names.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Drake May of all his assets up the entire operation.
What impresses you most about the Patriots stuff quarterback?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I think it's his attitude, you know, just talking to
people over there. Everyone talks about how he's so hungry
to be coached, he's so hungry to learn, and it
translates into how he looks to when he's playing. He
looks so confident, He makes it look so easy. And
I think his relationship with Josh McDaniels has been awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Josh helps him.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You know, on calling plays when certain guys are out
or if they're trying to feature other guys. They've got
a great little run game going with them, and he's
leading it and he's getting him in the right play calls.
So I think his attitude is just the one thing
that stands out. All these guys can throw the ball,
all these guys can run the ball. Now, especially at
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that position, it's the guys that are really wanting to
dive into the academics of football, learning, situations, learning, you know,
all right, it's third and six in the red area
list like not, let's not throw an interception, Let's take
the three points.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And he's shown that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
He's got that calm, cool, collect attitude.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
And it's been real fun.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
To watch Josh McDaniels all your years when he was
your OC. Does Josh does the tempo change the intensity?
Does Josh call a different game? Does he hide things
for the playoffs? Would you insert something week thirteen and
Josh not use it? Do you create new sets or
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do you kind of go back to what worked in
the regular season. So you're facing the Chargers, one of
the better defenses. How much is new and how much
is stuff that has worked Weeks one through eighteen.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
With Josh's offense, it's always a game plan offense. So
it could be new every week. You have your fundamental
plays that you'll always have that everyone's comfortable with, that
you can always select from, but there'll always be a
new wrinkle to try to exposed the deficiencies of what
that defense doesn't do well. So you can always anticipate
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something they've been working on potentially throughout the season that
they may never got called because they didn't get the
right look. You know, I remember always when we went
into these playoff games, they said, you know, we're not
going to.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Leave anything in the tank. If we have anything in the.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Playbook, be ready for it to be used because there's
no next week to save it for.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
So you could.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Definitely bank on the fundamental things that have worked all year,
a couple things that the defense doesn't like to see
because you've studied this on film, and maybe a couple
wrinkles to that.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So Seattle's a team that just if you turn the
sound down, they look more athletic, faster, they look like
they've hit on all their draft picks the last four years,
which they mostly have. When you play the young team,
a young athletic team, I mean, you know, you go
back to your career in New England when your face
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seeing a team that may have a better roster. They're
a little longer, they're a little faster, they're a little younger.
How do you take advantage of Seattle's aggressiveness and youth
in the playoffs because just watching them play, they look
more athletic than teams in this playoff space.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, you know, it's about when you're playing. And they
very much remind me of the Seattle teams that we
used to battle against the Legion of Boom. And what
made them so good is that they're they're fast, they're big,
and they're disciplined. They all they play really good team defense.
You know, you never see wide open plays, blown coverages,
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and that's in a testament to good coaching. So when
you're playing a team like that that likes to pursue,
that can get to the ball, you know one thing
that I always remember, you got to get vertical, You
got to protect the ball. We got to manufacture things
in the running game. And you can't have negative plays
because if you have a negative play on first or
second down, you're leaving them into a strength where they
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can rush the pastor and dial up some crazy things
in third and longs. So you know, that's when you're
playing a fundamentally sound defense.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
You can't have mistakes.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You're gonna have maybe two to five opportunities to get
a chunk play. You gotta hit them and you got
to take care of the football.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The So Mahomes isn't in, Burrow's not in, Lamar Jackson's
not in, and it's basically Josh Allen against you know, CJ.
Stroud and Bo Nix and Drake May and a lot
of young kids. Do you think in the building in
Buffalo It's not going to be said publicly, but they
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feel like, hey, Mahomes isn't here, Lamar's not here. These
are kids, they haven't been in these games before. Do
you feel there's a confidence with Buffalo knowing guys, this
is the opening, This is that you we don't have
to face Spags or John Harper.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I don't know if it's like that, because they're seeing
what everyone else is, seeing the deficiencies that their team has.
And you know, McDermott is a pretty self scout kind
of guy that doesn't get high on his britches and
really doesn't take anyone really lightly. That's how that defensive
coach kind of guy is and you know, yeah, there's
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a bunch of teams that are new to this, this playoff.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
The playoffs this year. But you know, you look.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
At some of these defenses and you look at somehow
these offenses are performing. You can't think like that. You
got to go in thinking that, you know this, this
could be the last week because they honestly, like I feel,
I'm scared for them against the Jacksonville Jaguars on the
road against this Jaguars team. The Jaguars teams are very
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good defense, very good offense. They're very complementary. They get
things done in the special teams. You know, they're a
well rounded team.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
You know, the Bills, everything has to kind of go right.
They got to jump out to a league.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You know, Josh Allen, they got to run the ball well.
Josh Allen has to make a couple plays. He can't
get banged up. So I don't think that they're thinking
that this is their ear. I think they're thinking, like, hey,
let's just worry about what our opportunity is ahead of us.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
We got Jacksonville.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
But you know, I can't imagine them taking Jacksonville lately
right now because of how what Jacksonville's shown on film.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So a team like the Rams of the Bears, you
could argue they both peaked in about week thirteen, fourteen fifteen,
and then they stumble a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Does that matter?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Does it matter how you did your last two to
three weeks going into the playoffs? For say the Rams,
who I thought about a month ago to five weeks ago,
I felt like they were a notch above the league,
and then they the back end has struggled, Devonte Adams
not healthy. Does it matter what you did last two
weeks of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
There's a lot of different opinions on this. And for me,
I always liked to go in hot in the playoffs.
And you know, I would be worried if I was
the Rams and with our special teams and you know,
our defense not being able to get a stop against
a really good football team.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I would be.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Worried if I'm Chicago and you know, like we're a
run team, but we didn't run the ball all that
much the week before, and we didn't play the game
that we want to play, you know, and you got
to rely on turnovers.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I don't love that.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Like getting off like the playoffs is about like who
could get off the field on defense that one time,
and what team can make that one play that one time.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Who's going to do it consistently?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So you know, I was always, hey, we got to
be playing our best football going into the last three
weeks of the season, just so we could sleep at
night and have that confidence when we do wake up
it's playoffs.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So Aaron last night had one of his best halves
of the year. No DK metcalf and yet he went
toe to toe as Lamar was Zayflowers, blown coverages go
back to you know, Tom's in his forties. Tom is older.
It did feel like Aaron sort of relied. He went
to his bag of tricks last night. Because their receiving
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corps does not get open. It's Friarmouth with no DK.
It's you know, it's you kind of hope Warren bus
a ten twelve yard run. They don't have a lot offensively.
And do you remember playing with Tommy. I'm sure you do,
as he was older. He's in his forties and it's
one of those big Sunday night games and Tom's just
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got so much bandwidth because he's been in so many
games like that.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, I mean, late in our career when we were
kind of banged up at receiver, it was kind of
like that. Every week you got to play to the
strength of what our team is. And sometimes you know
when you're missing lineman and you know you can't get
him blocked, like with what you saw Aaron du last night.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Hey man, sometimes these.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Little swing passes, these little screens that pick up three
to five yards that keep us on schedule.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
That's the way we're gonna have to play.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We're gonna have to muddy the game up because we
don't have any explosion plays. So I thought Aaron did
an unbelievable job at that. There was probably three throws
that you know, he's shaking his head on that he
wished he had back. But the way to finished, he
the way he finished, you know, like Dinkin Duncan getting
those nice little runs, getting the right runs called uh.
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It was fun to watch and leading on the guys
that he has the most trust in. I mean, it
seemed like, you know, before every play he was looking
at Firemuth like, hey man, this is what you're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
This is what you're gonna do, And that's sometimes what
you have to do.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
When when you're banged up or in their case, you
don't don't have DK and you got you gotta move
on without it. So that was a great job by
Aaron uh And it is fun to watch them play.
It's that's that's one thing that you know, you don't
know how much longer we're gonna get to watch them play.
It's fun to watch a quarterback go out and quarterback
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like that.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
All right, So the Giants have a job opening the Browns,
the Towns, the Falcons, the Raiders, the Cardinals, it's a
lot of it's a lot of losing organizations. I actually
think the Giants with dark and Scataboo and neighbors, that
they have a left tackle. And I think that in
that division too. I don't know if I trust Dallas
or Washington. I think the Giants feels like you could
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go in there. If Dart stays out of the blue tent,
I got, I gotta start back. I got a star
wide receiver. Any of these jobs you think if one
of the if you were into coaching, is there any
of these you look at and go, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
The Falcons what they gotta they gotta They got a
solid offensive line, they got a scary running back, the
Jon Robinson. You know that's that's that's a quarterback's best friend.
Good offensive line, good running back. They got Kirk Cousins
who will be there, who can be a viable candidate
to run the offense. They got Pennix, and they have
a lot of young talent on defense. They've drafted some
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young guys that are playing pretty well at the end
of this season.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And they're in a division that.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, it's pretty winnable if we look at the
last six years of it, it's a very winnable division.
So at Atlanta Falcons job, you have a good run game,
You've got a good line, an elite running couple running
backs I like Algier as well, and then young talent
on defense.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
You know those I think that's the most attractive job
to me.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
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Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I mean, listen, We've said this before.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
When Harbaugh took that job and Sean Payton took that job,
You're like, ooh, watch out, that's Andy Reid and they've.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Both done well.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But there is something about the NFC South. You can
go into any NFC South season knowing nine games absolutely
in play to win the division.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
I mean, three teams finish eight to nine. Carolina was
what minus forty on point differential? Come on, Rams are
gonna smash them, By the way, don't think it's competitive.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I kind of feel that way too. Jmack with the News.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
No, No, I've only got I've only got three games
so far one, two, three, four five with their six
playoff games.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
There's only three. I would better.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
You're gonna have to do a blazon six. I'm gonna
do a blaze in three.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh why no, I'm not. I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
I want to horse anything, right.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I don't know what to do with the Patriots.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
You're running hot.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Just fire away, Come on, I did have a Wendy.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
We need some jet skis in twenty twenty six. All right,
let's go to a job security and might mc daniels
colin the guy in Miami, is he in trouble? I
don't know. Four coaches have been fired in the last
twenty four hours. McDaniels, We don't know yet. Yesterday the
Dolphins got blown out by the Patriots. They were playing
a lot of backups. They finished seven and ten on
the season, but did finish strong five and three in
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their final eight. Here's McDaniels afterward on his job status.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
The conversations.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
I'll stay consistent with the conversations that I have with ownership.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
I won't opine on, but you know.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
I think I'm operating the same the same exact way
that I always have, which is the you know, no
one's entitled to anything.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
I take the job serious and so I will uh
aggressively attack the job tomorrow and like every day that
I that I have the job.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
If I was GM, because of the situation, I would
want an offensive coach. If I couldn't get Stefanski, I'd
probably stay with him.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, and I and I don't think, but.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
They don't have a GM now they fired uh career.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I mean, I I always said with Miami, if you
have two as a quarterback, you have to have a
good old line didn't and a good backup didn't, So
I thought most of the criticism went. I mean, he
made the playoffs with two up to him, made a
Pro Bowl, So I think I would stay with him.
I mean, the Jets are a traveling circus, so you're
not going to finish.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I think we'll talk about him shortly. Something. I think
Aaron Glennis is not well save it for the head coach.
I'm curious about McDaniel. So my thing is a lot
of people we know are like, oh, you got to fire,
you got to get rid of this coach. What's the
game plan?
Speaker 9 (17:16):
Colin?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Again, I don't think McDaniels is an awesome coach. But
who out there will be a better higher other than
stafis that's my point. Yeah, I mean like I like
Jesse Minter a lot. I think he's gonna do a
number on Drake May this weekend. Again, I'm not running
to run McDaniels out of the building. I think you've
got to clean up this to a situation because I
don't know that they're going to come off of him.
There's no trade market for tour right we would agree.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't think there's much of a market.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
No, and like a defensive coach is going to look
at that roster. Remember they traded Jalen Phillips. I think
there's an argument that you keep Mike McDaniel for a year.
You're five to six win team, you have a top
seven or eight pick, and there's six quarterbacks, hopefully there's
six member started this season with a bunch and now
we're If.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I was Miami, I would just try to accumulate teammates,
trade down we're going to be bad, and then try
to get as many picks as you can, move some
pieces and try to be in the running for next year.
I don't think right now there's an absolute Maybe Arch
Manning would be your number one quarterback.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
I think we said that a year ago. But I'll
say this art's finished strong.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You did.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
There's some other guys out next year. Is good. But anyways,
all right, so let's move on to the Jets. I
know you want to take some shots. You take glee
in my favorite team in sports, stinking up to Joy Colin.
They said a record yesterday, became the first team in
the history of football without an interception on defense, and
I will remind you Aaron Glenn's a defensive guy. They
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made Ray Davis look like Barry Sanders yesterday. Ray Davis
is a pretty damn good running back, though. Look at
Dawson knocks running wide open. Nobody within striking distance. I'll
let you pile on first. Go ahead, go go.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I think when you can't have an interception two, I
had the second most interceptions in the NFL. The Jets
played him twice, couldn't get one. The Jets didn't have
an interceptional Here, judge your coach on what he does
with his side of the ball. Worst defense in the league.
It's a defensive coach, by the way. That's Gannon in Arizona. Well, yeah,
I mean Arizona can score Arizona worst event, I don't think. Listen,
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will you see this all the time? You saw it
with like Freddie Kitchens. You're like, ah, that's not gonna work.
Girod Mayo, that's probably not gonna work. Brandon Staley. They
should have pulled the plug a year earlier. Like there's
certain coaches you just know like, this isn't work. I
always say, go to the side of the ball of
their expertise, if they're doing as much.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
As they like.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Kevin Stefanski made Shador Sanders beat Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yesterday, he helped.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Shaduor Sanders beat Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
You watch that game. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm just saying, I always judge, can you get your
side of the ball right?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Okay, here's a hypothetical. Dante Moore beats Indiana this week.
If it comes clear he's gonna come out in the draft.
At that point, do you move off Glenn and make
a play for DA Bowl or Stefanski? Is that a
fair You're getting a quarterback?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You all, Stefanski's going to have options. All make a prediction.
Stefanski will have two job offers within the week. New
York Giants will be one of them. That's my prediction.
Giants will be one of them. Atlanta will be the
second one. Kevin Stefanski will be I'm just I'm gonna
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get And this is all. This is not connections that
Stefanski will be offered the Atlanta job and the Giants job.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Do you believe one of those is better than the other,
because Edelman's just made a strong case for Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, Atlanta's got a superstar running the best running back
in the league. Argument, and they also have Drake Onelnder's
the top ten, top seven receivers.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, and also easier division.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
If I'm Stefanski, I'm like, i gotta go down to
that division.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
And Edelman's in his homework that defense was Yeah, they
just want some flukey games, yet they bite thet. You
watch the Rams game on Monday night, they played great.
I just don't know. Pennicks are dart If you got
the opportunity to coach one of those two, well Pennis,
I don't know. He's had a lot of injuries, a lot.
Padham in college has him now. But bottom line is
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the Jets' job is not as good as the as
the Falcons or the Giants. If we do have the
number two pick, I think if more comes out, that
changes the trajectory of the offseason.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I don't think he's coming out.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I think Indiana's gonna I think it's a good game,
but Indiana wins by the time.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
You think he stays in school, Yes, he's twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
He needs fifteen more starts. I think he'll be a
good pro prospect. He'll be a top ten pick next year.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
So then Jets don't get a quarterback early. Maybe Tye
Simpson with their second first round, second round. There is
no optimism with the Jets. Listen, we got a lot
of picks. Stop, we got for the top forty four picks.
That's optimism, my friend. Yep, yeah, okay, all right. Final story, Colin.
The Panthers and Rams kick off the wild card weekend
Saturday on Fox. How about this staft from our staff here,
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four of the six road teams this weekend are favored
Rams are favored Bills, Packers, and Texans.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I don't how can you watch this season and have
the Bills favored over Jacksonville in Florida.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
I think that's respect for Dash Allen.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
That's my favorite bet on the board is Jacksonville is
a home dog. If you told me they beat him
thirty four to twenty one, I'd be like, yeah, I
don't even understand the line.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
What about Texans Steelers? Nothing from me.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm not touching it. If it's three and a half,
I'm taking Pittsburgh at home to cover. Yeah, low scoring,
ugly twenty three to twenty. Houston wins, Pittsburgh covers.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
And Bears Packers you're kind of on the fence.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I would take the Bears.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Yeah, that I need to do some research a third matchup.
I really think la Floor's not know the floor half
Lee's defense. Have you seen what they did to Caleb
in the first half of those two meetings. Bears had
like no first half off it. They came in with
a game plan ready to stop everything Ben Johnson had
and they did so.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
I'm being talked into a first half bet on two
of these games. I'll I reveal this to you later
in the week.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
All right, jmckle the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
By the Herdline News.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, I mean I think every team in this league
could say, oh, Tennessee is no good.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
They have cam Ward. What about the Giants?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They have Jackson Dart Scataboo, what about the Raiders, brock Bauers,
Aston Gent There's there's something about every team in the
league except the New York Jets. Now, you could say,
what about Arizona. I've got Harrison, I've got McBride, I've
got some nice offensive pieces in Arizona. There is no
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redeemable part of the New York Jets job, as far
as I can tell, The Herd.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
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Speaker 1 (23:56):
Tom Brady joins the show this Thursday and each week
through the NFL Playoff. Put those games. Put the playoff
games up. Here's I just give you my early I
had a winning week, blazing five sixty percent of our
picks this year we hit on, so we had.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
A very good year.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
New England at home minus three and a half kind
of a stay away game for me. If it came
down to three, I would take New England. I think
New England's proven a week after week they're the better team.
The Chargers did rest a lot of starters against Denver,
so that's that to me, is a three point game
either way, probably a stay away game. My strongest opinion
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is Jacksonville at home getting a point and a half.
I would take the Jaguars winning that thing straight out.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Money line.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Texans Steelers if it goes to three and a half,
I think the Steelers are a great bet. If it's
three again, I think the Texans probably win by three.
I think the numbers right green Bay at Chicago don't
necessarily get the line started pick them. The wise guys
came in heavy on green Bay. It looks like, so
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you know now the Bears are an underdog at home again.
Jacksonville in Chicago at home as a dog. I think
Jacksonville in Chicago have better rosters. San Francisco at Philadelphia. Jmack,
I think he told me the lines up to minus four,
Philadelphia favorite at home. A lot of that is the
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injury report. If Ricky Pearsoll's playing, I mean the Niners
got all banged up against Seattle. Who's playing. If Trent
Williams and Ricky pearsall are playing, four would be four
and a half would be pretty tasty. I think Philadelphia
is gonna win that game, and the Rams are a
ten and a half point favorite at Carolina. If it
came down to ten, I think the Rams win handily.
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The totally missed this.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
So not only do the Bears have a first time
quarterback in the playoffs, first time head coach Ben Johnson's
never been a head coach in the playoffs before. I
know in Detroit, it's like, hey, get the offense ready
to dial up some cute place. Now he's got to
do everything, be in charge of everything. And they have
lost two in a row where they played all their guys.
I wonder if any of that like Bears. Remember, if
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they don't get a turnover call, they led the league
in turnovers by a large margin, led the league in picks.
If they don't get turnovers, the defense doesn't really get stopped.
So I can see some of this. Packers love WI
a Packer health situation, now, that's that's everything. They sat everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yep, so you know, and things change.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
By the way, if I find out everybody's playing for
the Packers, then they're probably you know, in.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
They're Mined Watson. Yeah, Then all of a sudden they've
been in the spot before. Let me have a quick
question on this. I think Bill's Jaguars is becoming interesting
because of this. Sean Payton sorry, Sean McDermott angle, he's
got to win that game coming. Oh yes, this is
a big one. Now, I don't know you said they
got a new stadium.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Going into a new stadium, if you had a new coach,
new stadium, energy, new energy.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Because this is the year with Mahomes out, burrow out,
lamar out. Josh is the last man's standing. He's the
best quarterback in the AFC. Right.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
If I asked you to rank the quarterbocks, absolutely ry
you have. Your strongest conviction is the Chargers right now.
It's three and a half, yeah or three.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
It depends where you're shopping. But I think Chargers. I
think they win this outright, Colin, I'm I don't wow,
I mean, I just the weakness on strength is a
big one. By the way, Chargers kicker besides that one
brick game against Houston, he's amazing Patriots kickers good. I
had him in fantasy for a minute. Yeah, this is
a spicy slate.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Listen, there will be an upset.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Okay, find you which one. Where's your upset.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well, okay, so Chargers Patriots. There's no coaching advantage. Bill's
Jaguars Jaguars at home. I think there's a coaching advantage
for Liam Cohen. Yeah, oh, first time head coach in
the play offensive coach, Liam Cohen coaching advantage Tex Steelers.
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I like Demiko Ryans. I feel like I've got the
better team and the better coach. Packers Bears, They're both great.
I mean, Niners have a coaching advantage over Philadelphia.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
They don't have a roster advantage. Yeah, the defense on
Philly is just so good. If Jalen Carter's back, you
got Dejene in the secondary, you got Quinjon Mitchell. I
don't I think the Eagle I just like this Eagles
team a lot. If I asked you for Super Bowl
right now and I said Eagles come out of the NFC,
you would agree or disagree.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
NFC is tough. I like Seattle. I think the Rams
will get it right. I think Philadelphia is a handful.
So the problem with the Rams is they'll have to
beat I don't understand Jacksonville being a home dog. Did
people not watch the regular season? How is that possible?
That's incredible respect to Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Trevor Lawrence just had the greatest season any Jacksonville quarterbacks
ever had by a mile. I mean he the vibes
around that team are excellent run defenses. What was Trevor
Lawrence's numbers this year? I mean he broke every record
for the frame. I think he had like thirty five
touchdowns some crazy stat where he had the most games
with three touch three or more touchdown passes. Like, Lawrence
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was unstoppable. Since they added Jacobe Myers to go with
Parker Washington and the kid Brian Thomas, they got a
major aerial attack there in Jacksonville. That's a dangerous team.
And like you said, they went to Denver, didn't They
win by two touchdowns at Sean Payton and Bo Nicks.
I think it was thirty four to twenty something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So what would be the most interesting for our show?
The most interesting for our show would be Jacksonville beats
Buffalo and Sean mcdermots on the hot seat. See Mike
Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers upset the Texans.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Well, I'm just saying interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, he got in Francisco beats Philadelphia and Nick Serry
on and he gets run. I got to see I'll
tell you the game. That's interesting. Matt Hasselbeck talked about
why Ben Johnson was so critical of his team after
the lost yesterday. Here's Matt, Matt hasselb.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
If you just told this team, hey it's two minutes
or hey it's fourth quarter, like this might like the
quarterback has something that you can't necessarily coach, like a
clutch factor and in factor, but the easy stuff like
quarters one through three, like we.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Got to get better at that.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
And I think that's what Ben Johnson addressed at the
podium right after the game. He was very disappointed in
the offense. He was very difficult, disappointed that they were
shut out going into the fourth quarter. So and I
think he knows that it's going to take a way
stronger effort in January in playoff football than what they've showed.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Part of me could see green Bay healthy, rested all
their starters, totally mailed it in against Minnesota, coming in
playoff experience and Chicago getting a little tight, Chicago having
you know, their offense stalls all of a sudden, green Bay,
you know, has a lead. I just don't can green
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Bay the Chicago's big issues are you can drive, Chicago
gives up chunks. You can see green Bay kind of
controlling the line of scrimmage eight yards, nine yards, couple
over the top like halflee in green Bay's defense, even
without Mica, they don't have a great pass rush, but
they're very fundamentally sound. They're not going to give up
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a ton of big chunk plays. Chicago. You get both
big plays and big plays surrender quick.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
No, remember last week I mentioned the Bears had the
earliest buy the Bears and Packers. Week five, Packers essentially
had another bye. Last week they sat there, guys. The
Bears did not, So the Bears have been playing full
season through no buys since Week five. You wonder if
the Packers arrested and come out, hey man, we're good
to go, and they take down the Bears here, that
would be a tough one for you, mister Chicago.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No, it wouldn't. I part of me thinks, let's say
the Bears lose. I think you look at this season
and go. Caleb got cleaned up big time. Number two seed.
The acquisitions on the O line absolutely hit. And now
let's go into the draft and draft defense. They need
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an edge rusher in a draft with a lot of them.
They need another corner in a draft that's got several.
So the Chicago's I was thinking about this here day.
Chicago has no needs offensively. I mean I mean none.
Stacked to tight end study. They could draft six defensive players.
They have no needs offensive They could.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Probably afford to lose or trade DJ Moore maybe or
even swift veterans, you.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Know, because I think Loveland has become like Caleb's running
mate Luther Burden had a good second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
A Dunze is going to come back.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, Chicago could go all defense in the draft, and
probably should. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
It's the hurt
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, the playoffs are different.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
A man who won a lot of playoff games, a
three time Super Bowl champ, twelve years in the NFL,
a Super Bowl MVP, Julian Edelman Fox Sports is now
joining us live. All right, let's go to your first
playoff game, because Drake may is gonna be his first
playoff game, Caleb william Is going to be his first
playoff game. Go to your first playoff game, nerves. What's
(00:47):
the difference between Week twelve?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The first playoff game is always it's a fun experience,
but it's a very there's a sense of urgency that
just gives it's kicked up, especially.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Where we were.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
We were playing against the Ravens. It was the one
where right out the gate they went eighty six with
Ray Rice and it was kind of an uphill battle
from there. But the playoffs. Like you always talk about
the speed of the game from you know, preseason training
camp to the regular season to like the late of
(01:23):
the season and playoffs start, and it just seems like
the games faster and faster each week. You keep on playing,
and the machines, the machines of the teams are well
oiled to that point, so you're not playing any bad teams.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So you know, it's a fun time of the year.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You make your money in the regular season, you make
your name in that postseason.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
We're about to see a lot of new big names.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Drake May of all his assets up the entire operation.
What impresses you most about the Patriots stuff quarterback?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I think it's his attitude, you know, just talking to
people over there. Everyone talks about how he's so hungry
to be coached, he's so hungry to learn, and it
translates into how he looks to when he's playing. He
looks so confident, He makes it look so easy. And
I think his relationship with Josh McDaniels has been awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Josh helps him.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You know, on calling plays when certain guys are out
or if they're trying to feature other guys. They've got
a great little run game going with them, and he's
leading it and he's getting him in the right play calls.
So I think his attitude is just the one thing
that stands out. All these guys can throw the ball,
all these guys can run the ball. Now, especially at
(02:47):
that position, it's the guys that are really wanting to
dive into the academics of football, learning, situations, learning, you know,
all right, it's third and six in the red area
list like not, let's not throw an interception, Let's take
the three points.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And he's shown that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
He's got that calm, cool, collect attitude.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
And it's been real fun.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
To watch Josh McDaniels all your years when he was
your OC. Does Josh does the tempo change the intensity?
Does Josh call a different game? Does he hide things
for the playoffs? Would you insert something week thirteen and
Josh not use it? Do you create new sets or
(03:33):
do you kind of go back to what worked in
the regular season. So you're facing the Chargers, one of
the better defenses. How much is new and how much
is stuff that has worked Weeks one through eighteen.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
With Josh's offense, it's always a game plan offense. So
it could be new every week. You have your fundamental
plays that you'll always have that everyone's comfortable with, that
you can always select from, but there'll always be a
new wrinkle to try to exposed the deficiencies of what
that defense doesn't do well. So you can always anticipate
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something they've been working on potentially throughout the season that
they may never got called because they didn't get the
right look. You know, I remember always when we went
into these playoff games, they said, you know, we're not
going to.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Leave anything in the tank. If we have anything in the.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Playbook, be ready for it to be used because there's
no next week to save it for.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
So you could.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Definitely bank on the fundamental things that have worked all year,
a couple things that the defense doesn't like to see
because you've studied this on film, and maybe a couple
wrinkles to that.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So Seattle's a team that just if you turn the
sound down, they look more athletic, faster, they look like
they've hit on all their draft picks the last four years,
which they mostly have. When you play the young team,
a young athletic team, I mean, you know, you go
back to your career in New England when your face
(05:00):
seeing a team that may have a better roster. They're
a little longer, they're a little faster, they're a little younger.
How do you take advantage of Seattle's aggressiveness and youth
in the playoffs because just watching them play, they look
more athletic than teams in this playoff space.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, you know, it's about when you're playing. And they
very much remind me of the Seattle teams that we
used to battle against the Legion of Boom. And what
made them so good is that they're they're fast, they're big,
and they're disciplined. They all they play really good team defense.
You know, you never see wide open plays, blown coverages,
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and that's in a testament to good coaching. So when
you're playing a team like that that likes to pursue,
that can get to the ball, you know one thing
that I always remember, you got to get vertical, You
got to protect the ball. We got to manufacture things
in the running game. And you can't have negative plays
because if you have a negative play on first or
second down, you're leaving them into a strength where they
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can rush the pastor and dial up some crazy things
in third and longs. So you know, that's when you're
playing a fundamentally sound defense.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
You can't have mistakes.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You're gonna have maybe two to five opportunities to get
a chunk play. You gotta hit them and you got
to take care of the football.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The So Mahomes isn't in, Burrow's not in, Lamar Jackson's
not in, and it's basically Josh Allen against you know, CJ.
Stroud and Bo Nix and Drake May and a lot
of young kids. Do you think in the building in
Buffalo It's not going to be said publicly, but they
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feel like, hey, Mahomes isn't here, Lamar's not here. These
are kids, they haven't been in these games before. Do
you feel there's a confidence with Buffalo knowing guys, this
is the opening, This is that you we don't have
to face Spags or John Harper.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I don't know if it's like that, because they're seeing
what everyone else is, seeing the deficiencies that their team has.
And you know, McDermott is a pretty self scout kind
of guy that doesn't get high on his britches and
really doesn't take anyone really lightly. That's how that defensive
coach kind of guy is and you know, yeah, there's
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a bunch of teams that are new to this, this playoff.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
The playoffs this year. But you know, you look.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
At some of these defenses and you look at somehow
these offenses are performing. You can't think like that. You
got to go in thinking that, you know this, this
could be the last week because they honestly, like I feel,
I'm scared for them against the Jacksonville Jaguars on the
road against this Jaguars team. The Jaguars teams are very
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good defense, very good offense. They're very complementary. They get
things done in the special teams. You know, they're a
well rounded team.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
You know, the Bills, everything has to kind of go right.
They got to jump out to a league.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You know, Josh Allen, they got to run the ball well.
Josh Allen has to make a couple plays. He can't
get banged up. So I don't think that they're thinking
that this is their ear. I think they're thinking, like, hey,
let's just worry about what our opportunity is ahead of us.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
We got Jacksonville.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
But you know, I can't imagine them taking Jacksonville lately
right now because of how what Jacksonville's shown on film.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So a team like the Rams of the Bears, you
could argue they both peaked in about week thirteen, fourteen fifteen,
and then they stumble a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Does that matter?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Does it matter how you did your last two to
three weeks going into the playoffs? For say the Rams,
who I thought about a month ago to five weeks ago,
I felt like they were a notch above the league,
and then they the back end has struggled, Devonte Adams
not healthy. Does it matter what you did last two
weeks of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
There's a lot of different opinions on this. And for me,
I always liked to go in hot in the playoffs.
And you know, I would be worried if I was
the Rams and with our special teams and you know,
our defense not being able to get a stop against
a really good football team.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I would be.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Worried if I'm Chicago and you know, like we're a
run team, but we didn't run the ball all that
much the week before, and we didn't play the game
that we want to play, you know, and you got
to rely on turnovers.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I don't love that.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Like getting off like the playoffs is about like who
could get off the field on defense that one time,
and what team can make that one play that one time.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Who's going to do it consistently?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So you know, I was always, hey, we got to
be playing our best football going into the last three
weeks of the season, just so we could sleep at
night and have that confidence when we do wake up
it's playoffs.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So Aaron last night had one of his best halves
of the year. No DK metcalf and yet he went
toe to toe as Lamar was Zayflowers, blown coverages go
back to you know, Tom's in his forties. Tom is older.
It did feel like Aaron sort of relied. He went
to his bag of tricks last night. Because their receiving
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corps does not get open. It's Friarmouth with no DK.
It's you know, it's you kind of hope Warren bus
a ten twelve yard run. They don't have a lot offensively.
And do you remember playing with Tommy. I'm sure you do,
as he was older. He's in his forties and it's
one of those big Sunday night games and Tom's just
(10:43):
got so much bandwidth because he's been in so many
games like that.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, I mean, late in our career when we were
kind of banged up at receiver, it was kind of
like that. Every week you got to play to the
strength of what our team is. And sometimes you know
when you're missing lineman and you know you can't get
him blocked, like with what you saw Aaron du last night.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Hey man, sometimes these.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Little swing passes, these little screens that pick up three
to five yards that keep us on schedule.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
That's the way we're gonna have to play.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We're gonna have to muddy the game up because we
don't have any explosion plays. So I thought Aaron did
an unbelievable job at that. There was probably three throws
that you know, he's shaking his head on that he
wished he had back. But the way to finished, he
the way he finished, you know, like Dinkin Duncan getting
those nice little runs, getting the right runs called uh.
(11:42):
It was fun to watch and leading on the guys
that he has the most trust in. I mean, it
seemed like, you know, before every play he was looking
at Firemuth like, hey man, this is what you're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
This is what you're gonna do, And that's sometimes what
you have to do.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
When when you're banged up or in their case, you
don't don't have DK and you got you gotta move
on without it. So that was a great job by
Aaron uh And it is fun to watch them play.
It's that's that's one thing that you know, you don't
know how much longer we're gonna get to watch them play.
It's fun to watch a quarterback go out and quarterback
(12:14):
like that.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
All right, So the Giants have a job opening the Browns,
the Towns, the Falcons, the Raiders, the Cardinals, it's a
lot of it's a lot of losing organizations. I actually
think the Giants with dark and Scataboo and neighbors, that
they have a left tackle. And I think that in
that division too. I don't know if I trust Dallas
or Washington. I think the Giants feels like you could
(12:38):
go in there. If Dart stays out of the blue tent,
I got, I gotta start back. I got a star
wide receiver. Any of these jobs you think if one
of the if you were into coaching, is there any
of these you look at and go, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
The Falcons what they gotta they gotta They got a
solid offensive line, they got a scary running back, the
Jon Robinson. You know that's that's that's a quarterback's best friend.
Good offensive line, good running back. They got Kirk Cousins
who will be there, who can be a viable candidate
to run the offense. They got Pennix, and they have
a lot of young talent on defense. They've drafted some
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young guys that are playing pretty well at the end
of this season.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And they're in a division that.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, it's pretty winnable if we look at the
last six years of it, it's a very winnable division.
So at Atlanta Falcons job, you have a good run game,
You've got a good line, an elite running couple running
backs I like Algier as well, and then young talent
on defense.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
You know those I think that's the most attractive job
to me.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
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Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I mean, listen, We've said this before.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
When Harbaugh took that job and Sean Payton took that job,
You're like, ooh, watch out, that's Andy Reid and they've.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Both done well.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But there is something about the NFC South. You can
go into any NFC South season knowing nine games absolutely
in play to win the division.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
I mean, three teams finish eight to nine. Carolina was
what minus forty on point differential? Come on, Rams are
gonna smash them, By the way, don't think it's competitive.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I kind of feel that way too. Jmack with the News.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
No, No, I've only got I've only got three games
so far one, two, three, four five with their six
playoff games.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
There's only three. I would better.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
You're gonna have to do a blazon six. I'm gonna
do a blaze in three.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh why no, I'm not. I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
I want to horse anything, right.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I don't know what to do with the Patriots.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
You're running hot.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Just fire away, Come on, I did have a Wendy.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
We need some jet skis in twenty twenty six. All right,
let's go to a job security and might mc daniels
colin the guy in Miami, is he in trouble? I
don't know. Four coaches have been fired in the last
twenty four hours. McDaniels, We don't know yet. Yesterday the
Dolphins got blown out by the Patriots. They were playing
a lot of backups. They finished seven and ten on
the season, but did finish strong five and three in
(15:48):
their final eight. Here's McDaniels afterward on his job status.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
The conversations.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
I'll stay consistent with the conversations that I have with ownership.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
I won't opine on, but you know.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
I think I'm operating the same the same exact way
that I always have, which is the you know, no
one's entitled to anything.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
I take the job serious and so I will uh
aggressively attack the job tomorrow and like every day that
I that I have the job.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
If I was GM, because of the situation, I would
want an offensive coach. If I couldn't get Stefanski, I'd
probably stay with him.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, and I and I don't think, but.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
They don't have a GM now they fired uh career.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I mean, I I always said with Miami, if you
have two as a quarterback, you have to have a
good old line didn't and a good backup didn't, So
I thought most of the criticism went. I mean, he
made the playoffs with two up to him, made a
Pro Bowl, So I think I would stay with him.
I mean, the Jets are a traveling circus, so you're
not going to finish.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I think we'll talk about him shortly. Something. I think
Aaron Glennis is not well save it for the head coach.
I'm curious about McDaniel. So my thing is a lot
of people we know are like, oh, you got to fire,
you got to get rid of this coach. What's the
game plan?
Speaker 9 (17:16):
Colin?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Again, I don't think McDaniels is an awesome coach. But
who out there will be a better higher other than
stafis that's my point. Yeah, I mean like I like
Jesse Minter a lot. I think he's gonna do a
number on Drake May this weekend. Again, I'm not running
to run McDaniels out of the building. I think you've
got to clean up this to a situation because I
don't know that they're going to come off of him.
There's no trade market for tour right we would agree.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't think there's much of a market.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
No, and like a defensive coach is going to look
at that roster. Remember they traded Jalen Phillips. I think
there's an argument that you keep Mike McDaniel for a year.
You're five to six win team, you have a top
seven or eight pick, and there's six quarterbacks, hopefully there's
six member started this season with a bunch and now
we're If.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I was Miami, I would just try to accumulate teammates,
trade down we're going to be bad, and then try
to get as many picks as you can, move some
pieces and try to be in the running for next year.
I don't think right now there's an absolute Maybe Arch
Manning would be your number one quarterback.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
I think we said that a year ago. But I'll
say this art's finished strong.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You did.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
There's some other guys out next year. Is good. But anyways,
all right, so let's move on to the Jets. I
know you want to take some shots. You take glee
in my favorite team in sports, stinking up to Joy Colin.
They said a record yesterday, became the first team in
the history of football without an interception on defense, and
I will remind you Aaron Glenn's a defensive guy. They
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made Ray Davis look like Barry Sanders yesterday. Ray Davis
is a pretty damn good running back, though. Look at
Dawson knocks running wide open. Nobody within striking distance. I'll
let you pile on first. Go ahead, go go.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I think when you can't have an interception two, I
had the second most interceptions in the NFL. The Jets
played him twice, couldn't get one. The Jets didn't have
an interceptional Here, judge your coach on what he does
with his side of the ball. Worst defense in the league.
It's a defensive coach, by the way. That's Gannon in Arizona. Well, yeah,
I mean Arizona can score Arizona worst event, I don't think. Listen,
(19:15):
will you see this all the time? You saw it
with like Freddie Kitchens. You're like, ah, that's not gonna work.
Girod Mayo, that's probably not gonna work. Brandon Staley. They
should have pulled the plug a year earlier. Like there's
certain coaches you just know like, this isn't work. I
always say, go to the side of the ball of
their expertise, if they're doing as much.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
As they like.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Kevin Stefanski made Shador Sanders beat Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yesterday, he helped.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Shaduor Sanders beat Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
You watch that game. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm just saying, I always judge, can you get your
side of the ball right?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Okay, here's a hypothetical. Dante Moore beats Indiana this week.
If it comes clear he's gonna come out in the draft.
At that point, do you move off Glenn and make
a play for DA Bowl or Stefanski? Is that a
fair You're getting a quarterback?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You all, Stefanski's going to have options. All make a prediction.
Stefanski will have two job offers within the week. New
York Giants will be one of them. That's my prediction.
Giants will be one of them. Atlanta will be the
second one. Kevin Stefanski will be I'm just I'm gonna
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get And this is all. This is not connections that
Stefanski will be offered the Atlanta job and the Giants job.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Do you believe one of those is better than the other,
because Edelman's just made a strong case for Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, Atlanta's got a superstar running the best running back
in the league. Argument, and they also have Drake Onelnder's
the top ten, top seven receivers.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, and also easier division.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
If I'm Stefanski, I'm like, i gotta go down to
that division.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
And Edelman's in his homework that defense was Yeah, they
just want some flukey games, yet they bite thet. You
watch the Rams game on Monday night, they played great.
I just don't know. Pennicks are dart If you got
the opportunity to coach one of those two, well Pennis,
I don't know. He's had a lot of injuries, a lot.
Padham in college has him now. But bottom line is
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the Jets' job is not as good as the as
the Falcons or the Giants. If we do have the
number two pick, I think if more comes out, that
changes the trajectory of the offseason.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I don't think he's coming out.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I think Indiana's gonna I think it's a good game,
but Indiana wins by the time.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
You think he stays in school, Yes, he's twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
He needs fifteen more starts. I think he'll be a
good pro prospect. He'll be a top ten pick next year.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
So then Jets don't get a quarterback early. Maybe Tye
Simpson with their second first round, second round. There is
no optimism with the Jets. Listen, we got a lot
of picks. Stop, we got for the top forty four picks.
That's optimism, my friend. Yep, yeah, okay, all right. Final story, Colin.
The Panthers and Rams kick off the wild card weekend
Saturday on Fox. How about this staft from our staff here,
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four of the six road teams this weekend are favored
Rams are favored Bills, Packers, and Texans.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I don't how can you watch this season and have
the Bills favored over Jacksonville in Florida.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
I think that's respect for Dash Allen.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
That's my favorite bet on the board is Jacksonville is
a home dog. If you told me they beat him
thirty four to twenty one, I'd be like, yeah, I
don't even understand the line.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
What about Texans Steelers? Nothing from me.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm not touching it. If it's three and a half,
I'm taking Pittsburgh at home to cover. Yeah, low scoring,
ugly twenty three to twenty. Houston wins, Pittsburgh covers.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
And Bears Packers you're kind of on the fence.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I would take the Bears.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Yeah, that I need to do some research a third matchup.
I really think la Floor's not know the floor half
Lee's defense. Have you seen what they did to Caleb
in the first half of those two meetings. Bears had
like no first half off it. They came in with
a game plan ready to stop everything Ben Johnson had
and they did so.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
I'm being talked into a first half bet on two
of these games. I'll I reveal this to you later
in the week.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
All right, jmckle the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
By the Herdline News.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, I mean I think every team in this league
could say, oh, Tennessee is no good.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
They have cam Ward. What about the Giants?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They have Jackson Dart Scataboo, what about the Raiders, brock Bauers,
Aston Gent There's there's something about every team in the
league except the New York Jets. Now, you could say,
what about Arizona. I've got Harrison, I've got McBride, I've
got some nice offensive pieces in Arizona. There is no
(23:41):
redeemable part of the New York Jets job, as far
as I can tell, The Herd.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
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and noon Easter not a Empacific.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Tom Brady joins the show this Thursday and each week
through the NFL Playoff. Put those games. Put the playoff
games up. Here's I just give you my early I
had a winning week, blazing five sixty percent of our
picks this year we hit on, so we had.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
A very good year.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
New England at home minus three and a half kind
of a stay away game for me. If it came
down to three, I would take New England. I think
New England's proven a week after week they're the better team.
The Chargers did rest a lot of starters against Denver,
so that's that to me, is a three point game
either way, probably a stay away game. My strongest opinion
(24:36):
is Jacksonville at home getting a point and a half.
I would take the Jaguars winning that thing straight out.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Money line.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Texans Steelers if it goes to three and a half,
I think the Steelers are a great bet. If it's
three again, I think the Texans probably win by three.
I think the numbers right green Bay at Chicago don't
necessarily get the line started pick them. The wise guys
came in heavy on green Bay. It looks like, so
(25:08):
you know now the Bears are an underdog at home again.
Jacksonville in Chicago at home as a dog. I think
Jacksonville in Chicago have better rosters. San Francisco at Philadelphia. Jmack,
I think he told me the lines up to minus four,
Philadelphia favorite at home. A lot of that is the
(25:28):
injury report. If Ricky Pearsoll's playing, I mean the Niners
got all banged up against Seattle. Who's playing. If Trent
Williams and Ricky pearsall are playing, four would be four
and a half would be pretty tasty. I think Philadelphia
is gonna win that game, and the Rams are a
ten and a half point favorite at Carolina. If it
came down to ten, I think the Rams win handily.
(25:49):
The totally missed this.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
So not only do the Bears have a first time
quarterback in the playoffs, first time head coach Ben Johnson's
never been a head coach in the playoffs before. I
know in Detroit, it's like, hey, get the offense ready
to dial up some cute place. Now he's got to
do everything, be in charge of everything. And they have
lost two in a row where they played all their guys.
I wonder if any of that like Bears. Remember, if
(26:12):
they don't get a turnover call, they led the league
in turnovers by a large margin, led the league in picks.
If they don't get turnovers, the defense doesn't really get stopped.
So I can see some of this. Packers love WI
a Packer health situation, now, that's that's everything. They sat everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yep, so you know, and things change.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
By the way, if I find out everybody's playing for
the Packers, then they're probably you know, in.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
They're Mined Watson. Yeah, Then all of a sudden they've
been in the spot before. Let me have a quick
question on this. I think Bill's Jaguars is becoming interesting
because of this. Sean Payton sorry, Sean McDermott angle, he's
got to win that game coming. Oh yes, this is
a big one. Now, I don't know you said they
got a new stadium.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Going into a new stadium, if you had a new coach,
new stadium, energy, new energy.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Because this is the year with Mahomes out, burrow out,
lamar out. Josh is the last man's standing. He's the
best quarterback in the AFC. Right.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
If I asked you to rank the quarterbocks, absolutely ry
you have. Your strongest conviction is the Chargers right now.
It's three and a half, yeah or three.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
It depends where you're shopping. But I think Chargers. I
think they win this outright, Colin, I'm I don't wow,
I mean, I just the weakness on strength is a
big one. By the way, Chargers kicker besides that one
brick game against Houston, he's amazing Patriots kickers good. I
had him in fantasy for a minute. Yeah, this is
a spicy slate.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Listen, there will be an upset.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Okay, find you which one. Where's your upset.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well, okay, so Chargers Patriots. There's no coaching advantage. Bill's
Jaguars Jaguars at home. I think there's a coaching advantage
for Liam Cohen. Yeah, oh, first time head coach in
the play offensive coach, Liam Cohen coaching advantage Tex Steelers.
(28:00):
I like Demiko Ryans. I feel like I've got the
better team and the better coach. Packers Bears, They're both great.
I mean, Niners have a coaching advantage over Philadelphia.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
They don't have a roster advantage. Yeah, the defense on
Philly is just so good. If Jalen Carter's back, you
got Dejene in the secondary, you got Quinjon Mitchell. I
don't I think the Eagle I just like this Eagles
team a lot. If I asked you for Super Bowl
right now and I said Eagles come out of the NFC,
you would agree or disagree.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
NFC is tough. I like Seattle. I think the Rams
will get it right. I think Philadelphia is a handful.
So the problem with the Rams is they'll have to
beat I don't understand Jacksonville being a home dog. Did
people not watch the regular season? How is that possible?
That's incredible respect to Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Trevor Lawrence just had the greatest season any Jacksonville quarterbacks
ever had by a mile. I mean he the vibes
around that team are excellent run defenses. What was Trevor
Lawrence's numbers this year? I mean he broke every record
for the frame. I think he had like thirty five
touchdowns some crazy stat where he had the most games
with three touch three or more touchdown passes. Like, Lawrence
(29:10):
was unstoppable. Since they added Jacobe Myers to go with
Parker Washington and the kid Brian Thomas, they got a
major aerial attack there in Jacksonville. That's a dangerous team.
And like you said, they went to Denver, didn't They
win by two touchdowns at Sean Payton and Bo Nicks.
I think it was thirty four to twenty something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So what would be the most interesting for our show?
The most interesting for our show would be Jacksonville beats
Buffalo and Sean mcdermots on the hot seat. See Mike
Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers upset the Texans.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Well, I'm just saying interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, he got in Francisco beats Philadelphia and Nick Serry
on and he gets run. I got to see I'll
tell you the game. That's interesting. Matt Hasselbeck talked about
why Ben Johnson was so critical of his team after
the lost yesterday. Here's Matt, Matt hasselb.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
If you just told this team, hey it's two minutes
or hey it's fourth quarter, like this might like the
quarterback has something that you can't necessarily coach, like a
clutch factor and in factor, but the easy stuff like
quarters one through three, like we.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Got to get better at that.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
And I think that's what Ben Johnson addressed at the
podium right after the game. He was very disappointed in
the offense. He was very difficult, disappointed that they were
shut out going into the fourth quarter. So and I
think he knows that it's going to take a way
stronger effort in January in playoff football than what they've showed.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Part of me could see green Bay healthy, rested all
their starters, totally mailed it in against Minnesota, coming in
playoff experience and Chicago getting a little tight, Chicago having
you know, their offense stalls all of a sudden, green Bay,
you know, has a lead. I just don't can green
(31:13):
Bay the Chicago's big issues are you can drive, Chicago
gives up chunks. You can see green Bay kind of
controlling the line of scrimmage eight yards, nine yards, couple
over the top like halflee in green Bay's defense, even
without Mica, they don't have a great pass rush, but
they're very fundamentally sound. They're not going to give up
(31:35):
a ton of big chunk plays. Chicago. You get both
big plays and big plays surrender quick.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
No, remember last week I mentioned the Bears had the
earliest buy the Bears and Packers. Week five, Packers essentially
had another bye. Last week they sat there, guys. The
Bears did not, So the Bears have been playing full
season through no buys since Week five. You wonder if
the Packers arrested and come out, hey man, we're good
to go, and they take down the Bears here, that
would be a tough one for you, mister Chicago.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No, it wouldn't. I part of me thinks, let's say
the Bears lose. I think you look at this season
and go. Caleb got cleaned up big time. Number two seed.
The acquisitions on the O line absolutely hit. And now
let's go into the draft and draft defense. They need
(32:25):
an edge rusher in a draft with a lot of them.
They need another corner in a draft that's got several.
So the Chicago's I was thinking about this here day.
Chicago has no needs offensively. I mean I mean none.
Stacked to tight end study. They could draft six defensive players.
They have no needs offensive They could.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Probably afford to lose or trade DJ Moore maybe or
even swift veterans, you.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Know, because I think Loveland has become like Caleb's running
mate Luther Burden had a good second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
A Dunze is going to come back.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, Chicago could go all defense in the draft, and
probably should. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
It's the hurt
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