April 8, 2026 • 40 mins
Colin gives his reasons why he feels the Giants will be the most improved team after the NFL Draft
He talks to national NFL writer from The Athletic Dane Brugler about the top picks in the upcoming NFL Draft
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Power two.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Tomorrow marks the two week date to the NFL Draft.
Dame Bugler Athletic coming up in a couple of minutes.
So the NBA has tried multiple different ideas to stop tanking,
which is worse than ever, and load management, which is
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still a major problem. They flatten the lottery odds. You know,
they didn't make their stars play as many back to back,
so longer all Star break. There's the NBA Cup early
to create urgency, sixty five game minimums to win awards.
Tanking's worse, load management still a nightmare. Nothing's working and
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successful men are driven by money. When the Utah Jazz
owner Ryan Smith, smart guy, was fine for alleged tanking
five hundred grand, he's worth three point five billion dollars.
That's like gas for your Gulf stream for a family,
vacation to Europe.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You gotta to me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The solve in all of this is find a hell
out of people, owners, coaches, and if you have to players.
Draymond Green said last night, Hey, if we're a player's league,
you're always finding us. Why not find the owners more.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Three mon I get fined when I do wrong. Just
fine a hell out of people. You know, we love
taking money from players. Keep firing on the teams. I've
seen two fins and we all know everybody take the
punishment for players as always, let's take the money. Well,
now it becomes sound punished teams and all of a sudden,
nobody don't know what to do. Why not? And we
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don't keep that same energy when it comes to teams,
when it comes to officials, when it comes to everybody
but players, we don't keep that same energy.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But just a player's.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
League, Yeah, and I'll be honest with you, there's for
most successful men, and NBA owners probably qualify as that
money and fines cuts through. That's what matters. And they've
tried everything. None of it's working. The tanking. This is
the worst the tanking's ever been. Load management still a
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major problem. So it's almost like Adam Silver, I think
is smart and very well meaning, but sometimes he can
remind me of like a naive politician. It's like Adam,
the midterms are going to be determined based on people's wallets,
nothing more that that's not whether they like this politician
or have distinct How are people doing financially? If inflation's up,
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if gas is up, if eggs are expensive, that's when
people in that big white house every four years get replaced.
And it's when you have upheaval and pivoting during the midterms.
So you can you can, you can try to be
idealistic and create the cup and the minimums. And if
you find an NBA owner twenty million dollars, which takes
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about thirty five million to make in most provinces or
states or jurisdiction, it takes about thirty five million to
get twenty after taxes, that would send a message throughout
the league. Now, owners may eventually want to fire Adam Silver,
but I don't think any owner wakes up in the
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morning wanting to tank. But I mean, it's so restrictive,
unlike the NFL or Baseball, it's so restrictive on trades.
With the new aprons and this, what else do you do?
How does Utah get good? They are about two players
away and they're gonna get one of them in the lottery.
And with that, it's called the Beast. He works at
the Athletic. We try to bring him on every time
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it's unveiled, and today is the day. Dan Brugler is
joining US NFL draft analysts for the Athletic. It's first
of all, it's the most comprehensive. I like what it
says here, this, I like this, This is what I
have on my screen. The Beast is the world's most
comprehensive NFL draft guide. Now I don't know about the
ones in Brazil, but we consider it the best here
in the States. So congratulations. I think the number two
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pick is fascinating. So years ago the Jets, who I
would argue, you need seven good players and shouldn't go
shouldn't go big on ceiling, just go get Bailey, plug
and play. Years ago they went and got Mackay Beckton.
Everybody talked about, oh what a ceiling. Two picks later,
Tampa is like, we like the solid guy from Iowa,
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Tristan Wurse. People are making it sound like and you
know this better than anybody that David Bailey is a
safe pick. You can't go safe at two. And I'm like,
I watched them play four times. He was the top
two player on the field in every game. Is he
that safe of a pick? Or is the gat with
r vel rees and Bailey miles or is it close?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I think it's fair to say it's close. I mean, yeah,
you can't ignore what Bailey did this year. Now, I
would say the big twelve tackle play maybe wasn't the
greatest even in the in the culture full playoffs against Oregon.
They're tackles. Oregon's tackles were not great, but Bailey had two.
There were two FBS players over eighty pressures this year,
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Ruben Bain and David Bailey, And the only difference there
Ruben Bain needed almost one hundred and seventy more pass
rush attempts to get there as opposed to Bailey.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And so he's just he's a sprinter off the edge.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And I think you feel better about how he came
up along in the run game at Stanford. He was
more of a subpackaged player because really they didn't trust
him against the run and a lot of those looks.
But at Texas Tech, I thought he got better in
terms of holding the edge, recognizing run, and showing up
at that part of the game. So I wouldn't say
that he's necessarily the most complete defensive end where I'm
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going to put that quote unquote safe label on him.
But if you want a guy that can just scream
off the edge and going to put pressure on the quarterback,
Bailey can absolutely do that. But in my opinion, Rvel
Reese is the best player in this draft. And I
get there's some worries about, Okay, is he in between
positions is? But I think there's a big difference between
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being a hybrid and being a tweener, and I think
Reese is very much a hybrid player compared to being
a tweener, and he has that same type of athleticism
as a pass rusher. The way Matt Patricia used him,
he was stacked on one play and then an a
gap blitzer the next to spy the next. He was
so valuable in that role that they didn't want to
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keep him just boxed in as just you're okay, put
your hand on the ground, get after the quarterback we
can use we want to mix up the picture for
the quarterback. Pre snap, it looks like this, but post snap,
we have a guy that can really mix things up.
And when you listen to Aaron Glenn what he talked
about this this offseason, wanting more hybrid players to mix up,
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you know, different looks that you're giving a quarterback. I
think it really points to what r VLA Reese offers.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I two GMS, one former, one current. I asked about Baine,
and you know they're like, listen, just he's just too
strong not to draft. He's too He's just I don't
care about the measurables. And you know, for years to
Baltimore Ravens, people sometimes forget Dane that not everybody loved
dad read out of college. He wasn't a number one
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pick like many great players in this league. Omar on
Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I mean they.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Drop or you look at that read and you're like, oh,
everybody loved him. And I can remember him coming out
and there was debate on certain things. Ray Lewis was
smaller than ideal. I look at Ruben Bain and I'm like,
every game I watched, he was the most physically imposing player.
He like intimidated people. But there's the arm length thing.
Where do you land on that? Yeah, I mean Troy
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Paulamalu was too small.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I mean yeah, There's been a lot of great players
in the league that you could poke holes in during
the draft process. And listen, the last twenty five years,
we have not had a first round pass rusher with
under thirty one in charms. So this really would be
an outlier, an historical outlier. But I'm with you. You
watch the tape and you just see a dominant player.
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I think what gives me a lot of makes me
feel better about it is how good he is against
the run. He's so strong, he understands how to use
his leverage, and so even if it is a little
more challenging for him to get to the quarterback in
the NFL, I feel really good about just his floor
because he's really good against the run. The motor's NonStop,
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he's powerful, and so I think there's a lot of
things that point to Okay, maybe I'm not gonna take
him at two of I'm the Jets, but if I'm
the Chiefs at nine, I'm crossing my fingers. A Bane
is still on the board at that point, or the
Bengals at ten, and so even though he is an outlier,
he's not gonna be for everybody. And and for some
teams he's a three technique on their draft board right
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now in their war room. He's up on that board
as a free technique just because of the measurements and
how he fits that certain scheme. But I do think
that he is too good of a player to fall
out of the top ten.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's called the Beast.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
He's at the athletic NFL Draft analyst Dame Bruglu. We
try to bring him on every year. Wide receivers fascinating.
So I love college football like you watch all of it,
I watch a lot of it. Carnell Takee to me
is a number one receiver very quickly in the NFL. Cleveland.
I think would be crazy not to go get him.
I think if you're gonna give Shador a chance, you
got to get him some players. But what's fascinating about
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the draft is there's guys like Mikayle Lemon at USC
and I saw every one of his colle snaps the league.
Dane is playing a lot of zone so run down
the sideline guy, doesn't you know. I'm not as fascinated
with that as I am fascinated with yard after the catch?
Are you smart? Can you find a crevice? Can you
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get open?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Not to mention especially in the AFC. Look at all
this teams in the AFC that are good outdoor stadiums,
cold and windy, good luck throwing you know, sixty yard
down the field. Like I like yard after catch underneath guy,
how do you view Lemon? Because I hear people say, well,
you know you don't run that well you can grab
him at the line, And I'm like, I watched every snap.
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If the ball's in his stratosphere, his hand strength, he
just catches it.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
He catches everything. What's the tapes?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I mean, I think you're absolutely right. The play strength
that he has is it's just so impressive. Throwing the
Iowa tape throw. I mean, I think whatever tape you
want to throw on, there's an example. Maybe except for
the Notre Dame game, then maybe that was the one
game where he didn't have one of those impressive plays.
But I think there's so many things to like about him.
He's manipulative as a route runner and exactly what you're
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talking about with the zone defenses. He has an ability
to find those open spots, very quarterback friendly. The ball
doesn't hit the ground I think at two point eight
percent drop rate this past year, and so really reliable
when he's targeted. And then one thing that I think
is really underrated about his game all the hidden yards.
So when he catches it, that's not where he's going down.
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He finds those hidden yards that run after the catch,
rarely tackled where he makes the catch. And I've said
this before, but I think maybe like one percent of
his rookie contract should go to Amin Ross Saint Brown
for just kind of paving the way for like this
is what it looks like. You know, it's maybe you're
worth threatening a fine needle here, but it can be
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done at this size and maybe not a burner, but
you know what, just a dang good football player. And
I mean I think there's gonna be a lot of teams.
I mean, think about him with the rams at thirteen,
what that would look like. I have him going on
my mock yep, that's right, yeah, yeah, no, And I
think it makes sense, especially with Davante in the final
entering the final year of his deal. You know, who
knows what's going on with Puka and his future. And
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so I think adding a weapon like that helps not
only for twenty twenty six, but also in the long term.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, so I think it's understood. Fernanda Mendoza, I like
it more than everybody else. It looked like he packed
on fifteen pounds at his pro day.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He looked.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I just think his humility, his gratitude, his size. I mean,
I just love everything about him. I think he's a
plus Matt Ryan, Bigger, thicker, stronger Matt Ryan. And Matt's
was terrific. That's my take, But Ty Simpson, my take his.
I don't see a trait where I go. Wow, I
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saw this morning, you said Daniel Jones. So a week ago,
I said, I said, he reminds me of Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think he throws.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I think he's a little more accurate, but I guess
he feels better than Kenny Pickett mid first late first round,
late first Round's tough Lamar was amazing. Pickett's disappointing. He's
somewhere in between there Where where do you think he?
I mean, you can't predict it, but like Daniel Jones,
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is your comp is that it?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, but it's Daniel Jones with lesser physical traits. You know,
he's not quite as big, he's not quite as fast
as Daniel Jones, and so you have to take a
little bit off of that. But I think play style wise,
there are definitely some similarities. The big question is, Okay,
fifteen starts at the college level, there's just no substitute
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for experience. And you look at the track record of
first round quarterbacks who had fifteen or fewer starts. We're
talking about Mitchell Trubisky, Anthony Richardson, Dwayne Haskins, even going
to if you advance it to seventeen starts, it's Trey Lances,
it's Mac Jones. And really, Mac Jones might be the
closest comp who is a high, high level backup to
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low level starter in the league. And you know, I
think that's kind of where I see Ty Simpson.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Personally.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
I wouldn't draft him until the second round just because
that's that. The lack of experience does worry me. And look,
the first six games of the year, he was fantastic.
You watch him against Georgia, you watch him early in
the season Wisconsin, he looked fantastic.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But then later in the year, when.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
The running game wasn't working, the offensive line wasn't doing
their thing, and more was on the quarterback to overcome that.
He just had a tough time doing that. And so
a big part it will be where he ends up
the situation around him. But yeah, when you do a
mock draft, it can be difficult because, Okay, if he
doesn't go to Arizona, if he doesn't go to the Jets,
if he doesn't go to the Rams, what other team
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might be looking for him at that point? So putting
him in a mock draft can be tough.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Okay, I'm gonna give you my every dre There's a
guy like we like to pick. Okay, who's the guy
that's going to go third round, late fourth round?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And I don't know where he's going to go.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But there's a receiver for Louisville that you know who
I'm talking about, big strong, Chris Bell. And so I
was reading a draft preview on him and I've seen
him play like once, and I went back and looked
at YouTube stuff and I'm like, well, that's a starting
NFL wide wide receiver day one. Why isn't he Why
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isn't he more? I mean, you can watch three routes
and you're like, oh, that's a pro NFL starting wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Why isn't he higher on the boards.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Well, I mean, yeah, as Miami about Chris Bell, and
they'll tell you best receiver they faced this year. He
would be a first round player if not for the ACL.
Had the ACL late in the year in November, so
a little bit of a discount sticker on his tag.
But no, I'm with you. I'm even going back to
the summer. He was my number two receiver coming into
the year. Big physical, the accelerations outstanding. You feel good
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about the person too, like as a really competitive kid.
And he told me at the combine how his freshman
year of high school didn't make the team, so he
joined the band just so he could go to home
games and away games. He would just he'd put the
instrument up to his mouth. He had no idea what
he was doing. He just wanted to be there for
the football games. And so I think this is an
ascending player. But again, coming back from the knee injury,
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hopefully you know clean bill of health returns to that
form that he showed. But I think that once you
get to the second round, there's gonna be more than
a few teams looking at Chris Bell and saying, Okay,
this is maybe that guy we're missing, because yeah, he
can take a slant and take it the rest of
the way, or he can win down the field. Just big, physical, strong,
You like the ball skills a lot to like about him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, it's funny that we just showed some Miami footage.
He's running away from Miami Hurricane dvs and you're like, oh,
like like running away from fast corners.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
He's the aj brown ish Yeah, and those guys are
hard to come by.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
All Right. Dane Brugler, this is uh, they call it
the Beast. It's at the Athletic His released this morning.
It's it's fantastic, Dan. It's great having you on again.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I appreciate it anytime things calling you bet it's it's
it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No. You know the air thing about the draft that
do you know seven John, seven straight years a team
drafting in the top five has made the playoffs. So
you think, oh, that's the garbage pail of the league.
Last year, Jaggs and New England, both drafting top five,
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made the playoffs. So I'm going to go through this
on the other end. Uh, there's there's it's very interesting
about you start looking at the top five. There's a
couple of teams in that top five is are the
Raiders one of them that feel like they can make
a big lead.
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It is a little chaotic in Milwaukee right now. What
to do with the Jannis. We've talked about it before
on The show Man when the star grumbles privately, That's
actually what happened in the early seventies where the Bucks won.
In nineteen seventy one, they had Leuel cinder and he
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told them privately, here, you know, I eventually like to
move somewhere. This is not the city for me. And
they went and got a haul. Obviously he'd done. Koreean
went on to a remarkable all time championship level career.
But usually when the star grumbles, get on the phone immediately,
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and Milwaukee did not do that with Giannis. Here's John
Middlkoff of the News.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No no turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Well, last year Jackson Dart was drafting the first round.
He had a good start to his NFL career. He
got his first start, you know, on the field in
Week four, putting up over twenty five hundred yards and
twenty four touchdowns. Heading into year two, he'll have a
new offensive coordinator guiding him in our guy Matt Maggie,
who spoke about what he's seen from his new quarterback.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
I was able to watch a decent amount of Jackson
last year when I was in Kansas City. I remember
coming away really impressed with Jackson and his accuracy. And
then I didn't know back then a year ago, I
didn't hear two years ago, I didn't know how tough
he was, and how good of a runner he was.
He was a really good, sneaky, good runner, tough, physical,
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played the quarterback position well, accurate, and you could see
he was a competitor. When I got here to New
York and got to meet him and started talking to him,
it was you could tell right away that everything was true.
I mean, this kid is different that way.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah. And also I think there's something to be says
a good looking kid with a ton of confidence. And
I think wherever the confidence comes from, your IQ, your appearance,
your athletic ability, New York can gobble you up. And
I just think he's one of those kids. You know,
Eli Manning was so great in New York because just
you grow up with Peyton Manning and Archie Manning. Eli
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just had a great sense of humor. Nothing bothered elive.
He could close it all off. Jackson to me, he's
got a little bit of a Hey, I may have
been in Oxford, Mississippi, but I can go to the
big city and play. And I do think Lane Kiffin
coaching him for multiple years made him very NFL ready,
And I.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Do think last year he learned a little bit of
a lesson. This is the NFL, and you will get hit,
and you will get hit hard. You know, he got
some concussions. Think about Naggie, who spent a lot of
his career now around Mahomes, who is an improviser, scrambles around,
but for the most part, he's pretty safe behind the
line of scrimmage. And I think you got Malik Neighbors
they signed likely who knows, maybe at five they draft
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Jeremiah Love. I mean, this offense could be pretty loaded,
you know what Horball and that mentality that their defense
over the next couple of years is going to be solid.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I think Jackson Darson a pretty good spot.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Getting Matt Naggie, who can really use Patrick Mahomes in
that film and kind of that operation for him to
look up to.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, I keep saying, I know a lot of people
want to trade down. I could see the Giants because
the Giants could use a right tackle and it may
be too early to draft the tackle there, but there's
multiple tackles in the draft I could see.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I could see because they have First of all.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
There's plenty of good receivers, second, third, and fourth round,
a lot of tackles first and second, top of the third.
I just have this feeling that I mean, if they
went and got Carnell tape because the neighbors injuries, I
would get that too. But I think the Giants are
going to have a really interesting draft. I'm really interested
to watch it.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Yeah, I think they're going to be just a tough,
physical team that they've kind of got away from.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
In previous years.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
O K to the NBA who down the street. The Lakers,
I think are in a free fall mode. Colin Reeves
and Lebron obviously they're injured, well, Lebron was out, Reeves injured,
Lucas injured. What was interesting last night there was this
little moment between JJ Reddick and Jared Vanderbilt during a
time out, with Reddick brushing it off and heading back
to the bench. Here's Reddick on the moment postgame.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Just you know, a confluence of things.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Again, it's you know, not getting nothing personal with him
about normal stuff from my end, And I think for
all of this, you know, being undermanned and we've got
a scrap and claw, we've got to all be on
the same page. We got to have the great teammates,
we got to all play hard, call the time out
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to get them out of the game, and you know
he reacted, but again normal interaction for me.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a long season. I think, listen,
there's seasons over. There's no getting around it. It's over.
And the frustration. They were a red hot team in March.
I think it's just all bleeding out.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They're lucky.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
They play the Jazz, who literally do not want to
win and have been like that for a couple of years.
But they might not win another game the rest of
the year, right, they play the Warriors, then they play
the Suns, the Jazz, who knows, but they could easily
get swept in the playoffs. I mean this team, which listen,
they were rolling. They had two devastating injuries, but they
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are kind of screwed right now, Colin, they got they
got no hope.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, and I actually in a weird way, I know
nobody wants to hear this, but they weren't a serious
championship team. They just don't have the depth, the defenders,
enough good shooters, They can't rebound. A lot of it
was fools gold and beating up on teams that they
you know, Lebron's getting close to the end.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Luca is in an MVP battle.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I not that.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
March was fools gold because they are very good in
the half court offense. But I think that Oklahoma City
loss and the injuries are a wake up call. They
got to get younger, they got to get more athletic,
and if Lebron's coming back, he has got to take
for the one time in his career, he's got to
play mostly for free, which if he doesn't want to,
I totally get it.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You know, you know, I know understand. The Dodger people
have a lot of money to now, you know, run
the Lakers, but they were looking at a home court
series right in Round one, is the three seed and
probably being in the second round even if they didn't
make it to the conference finals. Now they're the five
seed in a free fall. They might just get the
two home games and be sent packed.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I think that's what's gonna happened.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
And who knows this offseason with Lebron we Okay, speaking
of basketball, I watched a decent amount of this press
conference last night.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
North Carolina obviously shocked the basketball world hiring Michael Malone Colum.
They gave him six years fifty million dollars, and they
made him. He's currently the second highest paid coach behind
Bill self at over eight million dollars. Here's Malone and
what he had to say on his introductory presser at
Chapel Hill.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
Really thankful for this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I do not take it lightly.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
If people keep asking me, coach, why would you leave
a chance of coaching in the NBA Again, You're an
NBA coach, You won a championship in Denver in twenty
twenty three. It wasn't an easy decision, but what I
kept thinking about was I have a chance to be
a part of something special, the history, tradition, to be
a part of something much bigger than myself.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
As I said a few minutes ago, this was the
only college job.
Speaker 10 (25:53):
But ever consider you know, if any other job, I
wouldn't even answer the phone.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
That's a good that I want to hear that in Carolina,
so I think.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And also college basketball and college football are more administrative,
so for a lot of these older pro coaches, and
he's not really old, but I think it works today
where years ago it would not work. And so NBA
coaching and NFL coaching feels like it's getting younger, and
college coaching is getting older because you do get a
little bit. I mean the NFL's got a little bit
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of a burnout feel to it, where you know, at
the college level, you're on a college campus, You're dealing
with young kids. There's a lot of joy in college basketball.
March is really fun. And you don't have an impulsive
billionaire on top of you. You you know, you may have
a donor you have to suck up too. But at Carolina,
coaching at Carolina is one of the ten best basketball
jobs in the world.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's a great job.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
You think there's any chance in North Carolina Baseball hires
Bruce Bochie next year. It just completes the cycle. I mean,
this is and I do wonder if you're paying. Here's
the thing, you know, part of going to the pros,
right in basketball or football, historically, most to my life.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Is you got a big race. He's making over eight
million dollars.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
I bet if we looked around the NBA, you know,
they're a handful of guys making big money, but there's
not a lot of guys making eight point three million
dollars and have a five year fifty million. So these
college program Signette's making thirteen million dollars. I'm watching Dusty May.
He's got to be looking at whatever Malone got. He's like, Hey,
I know, we just did a contract extension, but we
better at minimum make that equal college. The business is huge,
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so it's very lucrative to take these gigs.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yes, and they're and they're great gigs.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Not everybody can do it, but the you know, I mean,
Indiana's got a top eight business school, and you know,
Mark Cuban writes a check and you know, but when
I hear this, it's not sustainable. It is when you
have a billionaire donor who is engaged with sports, it
becomes much more sustainable.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Wouldn't you imagine North Carolina and Duke have pretty successful
alumni out there in the real world.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, plus, Carolina's got a massive Dean Dome. It's got
a massive facility. So just game day revenue at Carolina.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I mean, if you go to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That region, it's like I always said this about the
Atlanta Braves. If you go in the South right now,
everybody's wearing either a Master's hat or a Brave's hat.
You know, they like dominate the South. You ever go
to the Carolinas. I mean, how many times you've been
to an airport in that part of the country. There
is so much money at UNC. It's just it is MA.
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It's just it's got to be one of the more
profitable places.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
To me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It feels like in college sports. I agreed John with
the news.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So seven straight years, as of tomorrow it's officially two
weeks to the draft. Seven straight years a team in
the top five in the draft has made the playoffs
that next year. So last year New England and the
Jags did. So let's put up the top five teams
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in the draft Vegas, the New York Jets, Arizona, the
Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And the New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, so I'm going to eliminate two of them. The Jets,
I don't think the head coach knows what he's doing.
In Arizona, you're in a division with McVeigh stacked roster,
Shanahan good roster, Mike McDonald good roster. So let's just
be realistic. I don't even know who's quarterback in the
Cardinals right now. So Jets, Cardinals, take them out Las Vegas.
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I'm going to reluctantly take them out. Division's good, first
year head coach, rookie quarterback. I think they're going to
be a much improved team, but in that division with
a rookie quarterback, they may not kind of get it
Gelling till Thanksgiving. So then you look at the Titans
and Giants. One of those, if the trend keeps going,
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is going to be a playoff team. I like the
Titans a lot, but the Titans last year. I looked
it up this morning. Here are their three wins. A
one point win over Arizona, a two point win over Cleveland,
and they beat Kansas City without Mahomes. The Titans point
differential was awful. They Robert Salla in that front office,
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need two drafts. They need secondary help, oline help, weapons help.
They just don't have enough good players. So I'm gonna
eliminate them. Plus the Jags are pretty good in that division,
so is Houston. I think the Giants are a playoff team,
and I don't think it's I don't think it's that diffict,
and I love Sola, but you got to be fair
with Robert. They don't have enough players. They need seven
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starters out of the draft. The New York Giants don't.
They need three. The Giants have to find a right tackle,
another weapon on the perimeter, get a good corner safety,
and the Giants are good. I think the Giants between
upgrading and also in the Giants division, here's a big plus.
Philadelphia is noisy and right now there's a lot of
questions Inhiladelphia, Washington. It feels like the GM and the
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coaching staff. Dan Quinn's on the hot seat. Jayden Daniels
off an injury, struggled to stay healthy. So far in
the NFL, Dallas is just not close defensively. So I
look at the Giants and I look at the head coach,
the quarterback, the defensive line. They rush the left tackle.
Never forget, the New York Giants did something last year
that's weird. There were four and thirteen. They led by
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ten or more in five of their losses. That's an
NFL record. Most of the NFL, the Titans were bad,
the Giants weren't. They just couldn't steal wins. And I
think the Giants are a playoff team. Leading by ten points,
they blew five games leading entering the fourth. They blew
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three games and they were off in one score games.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And a lot of that is they have rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You know, Scataboo got hurt, couldn't depend on the run game,
couldn't melt the clock, and a rookie quarterback. So and
I was look in this morning at the Giants. I
think they'll make it eight straight year at the Giants' opponents.
So they've got some tough road games, Seahawks, Rams, Lions,
those are tough road games. They got some do w's
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at home, Commanders, Cardinals, Browns, Saints, Titans, the Giants. The
Giants have nine wins on this schedule. Now, I don't
think they're going to go to LA and Seattle and win.
But you don't none of us know. I mean right
now with CJ. Stroud and the Texans, I think the
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Lions knew OC is good.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You look at that schedule, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I think the Giants are an eight or nine win team.
And I'll say this if, depending on how the draft goes,
if they get like a carneal tape and neighbors, They've
got the kid from Baltimore, scatabooze back.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know, you think to yourself, top of the draft,
that's not the league seven straight years. Here's John Harbaugh
on meeting with the Giants players this week.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
It's just a bunch of people coming together to build
something together that is that is a team and plays
like a team, and plays like a team better than
any other team. If you do that, then you have
a chance to be the best team, because the best
team is a team who plays the best. I might
have said that in the meeting today, you know, And
it was fun to be around the guys. It was
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fun to stand in front of the New York Giants today.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
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Speaker 1 (34:14):
The You know, I'm not a gigantic believer in you know,
you draft basketball or football, but especially in basketball, I
think you can spot talent really quickly. Now there are
guys that age differently like some guys mature. A fascinating
guy in the NBA draft is Michigan's Jaxell Lendeborg. He
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didn't play basketball until his senior year in high school.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So people go always old.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, people are worried about drafting old guys when they've
been playing since they're seven and they're dominating because they've
got a beard with grace hair in it. This guy
just didn't play until his last year of high school,
didn't really take the sport seriously. So to me, you're
just getting a guy. Yes he's a little older, but
he's got so much room to grow. All you have
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to do is look good at shooting. He's just a
way better shooter than the rest of his career.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And you know, so.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm looking at a six nine, two forty guy that
can shoot, that didn't pick up basketball till probably seven
years after everybody else he's playing against picked up basketball
and here was Dusty May on him.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
The processing power is his strength. I don't know if
I've ever been around someone that can can learn things
on the fly and be able to change his move
or his body contortion based on something that he saw
a month ago. And so that processing, his passing ability,
his ability to see the floor, I think those are
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all really unique now. And he's a he's a different
athlete where when you watch him, he doesn't seem like
a plus athlete, and then you see him make these
athletic plays where go underneath and on three guys, and
I just think he's he's so untapped because he's so
new to the game.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, so I like him a lot. And I also
think he's a really bright kid. Size, shooting, skill, scheme fit.
He's one of those guys that fits everywhere. I don't know,
I think you can. I guess this is the way
I look at it. If I was a GM in
the NFL, I do think because there's so much physicality
and power in the sport, sometimes guys just it takes
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them a long time to get strong enough. I mean,
you'll I've talked to NFL players who go are like
strong and they're like, I wasn't strong enough at tackle
until like Thanksgiving of my second year in the NFL.
And they were in college for four and five years.
So there are slower developed players. And it is sometimes
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in football you have all this tape, but some guys
just they don't their bodies just don't get strong enough
until they're like twenty five twenty four.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Basketball is different. I always tell the story my daughter.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
My daughter was played a lot of basketball when she
was young, like six seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, you know,
high school. And I remember going to a gym. It
was a girls tournament and I'm sitting there and there's
a bunch of guys that looked like AAU coaches. And
I sit down and there's like eight courts. It's in Hartford, Connecticut,
and I'm watching for three minutes and I guy next
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to me, I'm like, who's that little girl over in
the far court. He goes, that's the best player in
the gym. I'm like, what, Graycian, He's like, seventh. Girls
mature more rapidly than boys do, and so he's like,
oh yeah, in basketball, you can tell sixth seventh grade.
I remember one time getting a call from a friend
named Brian. Brian Berger worked for Nike, and he was
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watching Dwight Howard and Dwight Howard was like thirteen or
fourteen years old. He's like, yeah, that's the next great
big in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I'm like, he's fourteen. It's like, now you can tell.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I think basketball's one of those that what's fascinating about
Yaxel is he didn't play the game. I mean, most
of these kids, you know, they're hoopers when they're seventy
nine years old. He started late, late high school. So
that to me is a and he's this good already
with that little of basketball.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It's like wow. So that to me is what I
you know, late bloomer.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I just feel like in football, because it's power based,
you do get late bloomers physically. In basketball, I kind
of feel you like, you know, by fifteen years old,
you got the Nikes and the sports apparel companies, they
got attract at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, they know
who's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I think Yaxle is an outlier.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
He didn't play at all, and that happens also in football,
Like Antonio Gates did not play college football. I mean,
I'm not saying it doesn't happen in football, but I
mean Pascal say Ockham is a prime example. He didn't
play organized basketball till he was seventeen, and he's tremendous.
But he's the rare basketball player that, like you couldn't
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identify at sixteen he didn't play. So I feel like,
is he going to be as good Yacksville as good
as Pascal Siakam.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I don't know that that would be. That's a big ask,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's to play that little of basketball and to be
that good in the last couple of years. He's just
a different player from the perimeter, and he said he's
just natural. Everything looks easy. I always say that about
Justin Herbert John, Like there are certain guys I want
Fernando Mendoza, like the ball just comes out of his hand.
He's very easily accurate. Then there's other guys. Sam Darnold's
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areadly got to work on it. He's already worked on
his game. He's not effortlessly accurate, Whereas I always feel
like Mendoza. You watch certain guys, Herbert's one of them.
He just comes out and the ball goes to the
place he wants it to go to.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
I didn't have a chance to ask, but I saw
some picture online. Donald just got married last weekend. Where
were you sitting.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I didn't know he got married.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, he just got married.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Good for Sam. What a year for that guy, A
heck of a year.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Josh Allen standing right behind him, you know, Josh Allen over,
He's one of the grooves men looking at Sam.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Darnold got a ring.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Come in his way, and Josh is back there, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Having Sam. Sam's roady.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I saw Sam in watch Hill, Rhode Island. He was
at Christian McCaffrey's wedding.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah uh, and he was no longer part of Carolina,
but he was in Minnesota and we were just talking
about everybody like Sam.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Sam's just like beach kid down to earth.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Could could win this powerball lottery, which he kind of
did in football.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Never changed quality guy. Where do you go? Sam? Michael
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Power two.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Tomorrow marks the two week date to the NFL Draft.
Dame Bugler Athletic coming up in a couple of minutes.
So the NBA has tried multiple different ideas to stop tanking,
which is worse than ever, and load management, which is
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still a major problem. They flatten the lottery odds. You know,
they didn't make their stars play as many back to back,
so longer all Star break. There's the NBA Cup early
to create urgency, sixty five game minimums to win awards.
Tanking's worse, load management still a nightmare. Nothing's working and
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successful men are driven by money. When the Utah Jazz
owner Ryan Smith, smart guy, was fine for alleged tanking
five hundred grand, he's worth three point five billion dollars.
That's like gas for your Gulf stream for a family,
vacation to Europe.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You gotta to me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The solve in all of this is find a hell
out of people, owners, coaches, and if you have to players.
Draymond Green said last night, Hey, if we're a player's league,
you're always finding us. Why not find the owners more.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Three mon I get fined when I do wrong. Just
fine a hell out of people. You know, we love
taking money from players. Keep firing on the teams. I've
seen two fins and we all know everybody take the
punishment for players as always, let's take the money. Well,
now it becomes sound punished teams and all of a sudden,
nobody don't know what to do. Why not? And we
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don't keep that same energy when it comes to teams,
when it comes to officials, when it comes to everybody
but players, we don't keep that same energy.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But just a player's.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
League, Yeah, and I'll be honest with you, there's for
most successful men, and NBA owners probably qualify as that
money and fines cuts through. That's what matters. And they've
tried everything. None of it's working. The tanking. This is
the worst the tanking's ever been. Load management still a
(02:44):
major problem. So it's almost like Adam Silver, I think
is smart and very well meaning, but sometimes he can
remind me of like a naive politician. It's like Adam,
the midterms are going to be determined based on people's wallets,
nothing more that that's not whether they like this politician
or have distinct How are people doing financially? If inflation's up,
(03:08):
if gas is up, if eggs are expensive, that's when
people in that big white house every four years get replaced.
And it's when you have upheaval and pivoting during the midterms.
So you can you can, you can try to be
idealistic and create the cup and the minimums. And if
you find an NBA owner twenty million dollars, which takes
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about thirty five million to make in most provinces or
states or jurisdiction, it takes about thirty five million to
get twenty after taxes, that would send a message throughout
the league. Now, owners may eventually want to fire Adam Silver,
but I don't think any owner wakes up in the
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morning wanting to tank. But I mean, it's so restrictive,
unlike the NFL or Baseball, it's so restrictive on trades.
With the new aprons and this, what else do you do?
How does Utah get good? They are about two players
away and they're gonna get one of them in the lottery.
And with that, it's called the Beast. He works at
the Athletic. We try to bring him on every time
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it's unveiled, and today is the day. Dan Brugler is
joining US NFL draft analysts for the Athletic. It's first
of all, it's the most comprehensive. I like what it
says here, this, I like this, This is what I
have on my screen. The Beast is the world's most
comprehensive NFL draft guide. Now I don't know about the
ones in Brazil, but we consider it the best here
in the States. So congratulations. I think the number two
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pick is fascinating. So years ago the Jets, who I
would argue, you need seven good players and shouldn't go
shouldn't go big on ceiling, just go get Bailey, plug
and play. Years ago they went and got Mackay Beckton.
Everybody talked about, oh what a ceiling. Two picks later,
Tampa is like, we like the solid guy from Iowa,
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Tristan Wurse. People are making it sound like and you
know this better than anybody that David Bailey is a
safe pick. You can't go safe at two. And I'm like,
I watched them play four times. He was the top
two player on the field in every game. Is he
that safe of a pick? Or is the gat with
r vel rees and Bailey miles or is it close?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I think it's fair to say it's close. I mean, yeah,
you can't ignore what Bailey did this year. Now, I
would say the big twelve tackle play maybe wasn't the
greatest even in the in the culture full playoffs against Oregon.
They're tackles. Oregon's tackles were not great, but Bailey had two.
There were two FBS players over eighty pressures this year,
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Ruben Bain and David Bailey, And the only difference there
Ruben Bain needed almost one hundred and seventy more pass
rush attempts to get there as opposed to Bailey.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And so he's just he's a sprinter off the edge.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And I think you feel better about how he came
up along in the run game at Stanford. He was
more of a subpackaged player because really they didn't trust
him against the run and a lot of those looks.
But at Texas Tech, I thought he got better in
terms of holding the edge, recognizing run, and showing up
at that part of the game. So I wouldn't say
that he's necessarily the most complete defensive end where I'm
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going to put that quote unquote safe label on him.
But if you want a guy that can just scream
off the edge and going to put pressure on the quarterback,
Bailey can absolutely do that. But in my opinion, Rvel
Reese is the best player in this draft. And I
get there's some worries about, Okay, is he in between
positions is? But I think there's a big difference between
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being a hybrid and being a tweener, and I think
Reese is very much a hybrid player compared to being
a tweener, and he has that same type of athleticism
as a pass rusher. The way Matt Patricia used him,
he was stacked on one play and then an a
gap blitzer the next to spy the next. He was
so valuable in that role that they didn't want to
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keep him just boxed in as just you're okay, put
your hand on the ground, get after the quarterback we
can use we want to mix up the picture for
the quarterback. Pre snap, it looks like this, but post snap,
we have a guy that can really mix things up.
And when you listen to Aaron Glenn what he talked
about this this offseason, wanting more hybrid players to mix up,
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you know, different looks that you're giving a quarterback. I
think it really points to what r VLA Reese offers.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I two GMS, one former, one current. I asked about Baine,
and you know they're like, listen, just he's just too
strong not to draft. He's too He's just I don't
care about the measurables. And you know, for years to
Baltimore Ravens, people sometimes forget Dane that not everybody loved
dad read out of college. He wasn't a number one
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pick like many great players in this league. Omar on
Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I mean they.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Drop or you look at that read and you're like, oh,
everybody loved him. And I can remember him coming out
and there was debate on certain things. Ray Lewis was
smaller than ideal. I look at Ruben Bain and I'm like,
every game I watched, he was the most physically imposing player.
He like intimidated people. But there's the arm length thing.
Where do you land on that? Yeah, I mean Troy
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Paulamalu was too small.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I mean yeah, There's been a lot of great players
in the league that you could poke holes in during
the draft process. And listen, the last twenty five years,
we have not had a first round pass rusher with
under thirty one in charms. So this really would be
an outlier, an historical outlier. But I'm with you. You
watch the tape and you just see a dominant player.
(08:40):
I think what gives me a lot of makes me
feel better about it is how good he is against
the run. He's so strong, he understands how to use
his leverage, and so even if it is a little
more challenging for him to get to the quarterback in
the NFL, I feel really good about just his floor
because he's really good against the run. The motor's NonStop,
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he's powerful, and so I think there's a lot of
things that point to Okay, maybe I'm not gonna take
him at two of I'm the Jets, but if I'm
the Chiefs at nine, I'm crossing my fingers. A Bane
is still on the board at that point, or the
Bengals at ten, and so even though he is an outlier,
he's not gonna be for everybody. And and for some
teams he's a three technique on their draft board right
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now in their war room. He's up on that board
as a free technique just because of the measurements and
how he fits that certain scheme. But I do think
that he is too good of a player to fall
out of the top ten.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's called the Beast.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
He's at the athletic NFL Draft analyst Dame Bruglu. We
try to bring him on every year. Wide receivers fascinating.
So I love college football like you watch all of it,
I watch a lot of it. Carnell Takee to me
is a number one receiver very quickly in the NFL. Cleveland.
I think would be crazy not to go get him.
I think if you're gonna give Shador a chance, you
got to get him some players. But what's fascinating about
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the draft is there's guys like Mikayle Lemon at USC
and I saw every one of his colle snaps the league.
Dane is playing a lot of zone so run down
the sideline guy, doesn't you know. I'm not as fascinated
with that as I am fascinated with yard after the catch?
Are you smart? Can you find a crevice? Can you
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get open?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Not to mention especially in the AFC. Look at all
this teams in the AFC that are good outdoor stadiums,
cold and windy, good luck throwing you know, sixty yard
down the field. Like I like yard after catch underneath guy,
how do you view Lemon? Because I hear people say, well,
you know you don't run that well you can grab
him at the line, And I'm like, I watched every snap.
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If the ball's in his stratosphere, his hand strength, he
just catches it.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
He catches everything. What's the tapes?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I mean, I think you're absolutely right. The play strength
that he has is it's just so impressive. Throwing the
Iowa tape throw. I mean, I think whatever tape you
want to throw on, there's an example. Maybe except for
the Notre Dame game, then maybe that was the one
game where he didn't have one of those impressive plays.
But I think there's so many things to like about him.
He's manipulative as a route runner and exactly what you're
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talking about with the zone defenses. He has an ability
to find those open spots, very quarterback friendly. The ball
doesn't hit the ground I think at two point eight
percent drop rate this past year, and so really reliable
when he's targeted. And then one thing that I think
is really underrated about his game all the hidden yards.
So when he catches it, that's not where he's going down.
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He finds those hidden yards that run after the catch,
rarely tackled where he makes the catch. And I've said
this before, but I think maybe like one percent of
his rookie contract should go to Amin Ross Saint Brown
for just kind of paving the way for like this
is what it looks like. You know, it's maybe you're
worth threatening a fine needle here, but it can be
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done at this size and maybe not a burner, but
you know what, just a dang good football player. And
I mean I think there's gonna be a lot of teams.
I mean, think about him with the rams at thirteen,
what that would look like. I have him going on
my mock yep, that's right, yeah, yeah, no, And I
think it makes sense, especially with Davante in the final
entering the final year of his deal. You know, who
knows what's going on with Puka and his future. And
(12:15):
so I think adding a weapon like that helps not
only for twenty twenty six, but also in the long term.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, so I think it's understood. Fernanda Mendoza, I like
it more than everybody else. It looked like he packed
on fifteen pounds at his pro day.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
He looked.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I just think his humility, his gratitude, his size. I mean,
I just love everything about him. I think he's a
plus Matt Ryan, Bigger, thicker, stronger Matt Ryan. And Matt's
was terrific. That's my take, But Ty Simpson, my take his.
I don't see a trait where I go. Wow, I
(12:52):
saw this morning, you said Daniel Jones. So a week ago,
I said, I said, he reminds me of Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think he throws.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I think he's a little more accurate, but I guess
he feels better than Kenny Pickett mid first late first round,
late first Round's tough Lamar was amazing. Pickett's disappointing. He's
somewhere in between there Where where do you think he?
I mean, you can't predict it, but like Daniel Jones,
(13:21):
is your comp is that it?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, but it's Daniel Jones with lesser physical traits. You know,
he's not quite as big, he's not quite as fast
as Daniel Jones, and so you have to take a
little bit off of that. But I think play style wise,
there are definitely some similarities. The big question is, Okay,
fifteen starts at the college level, there's just no substitute
(13:44):
for experience. And you look at the track record of
first round quarterbacks who had fifteen or fewer starts. We're
talking about Mitchell Trubisky, Anthony Richardson, Dwayne Haskins, even going
to if you advance it to seventeen starts, it's Trey Lances,
it's Mac Jones. And really, Mac Jones might be the
closest comp who is a high, high level backup to
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low level starter in the league. And you know, I
think that's kind of where I see Ty Simpson.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Personally.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
I wouldn't draft him until the second round just because
that's that. The lack of experience does worry me. And look,
the first six games of the year, he was fantastic.
You watch him against Georgia, you watch him early in
the season Wisconsin, he looked fantastic.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But then later in the year, when.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
The running game wasn't working, the offensive line wasn't doing
their thing, and more was on the quarterback to overcome that.
He just had a tough time doing that. And so
a big part it will be where he ends up
the situation around him. But yeah, when you do a
mock draft, it can be difficult because, Okay, if he
doesn't go to Arizona, if he doesn't go to the Jets,
if he doesn't go to the Rams, what other team
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might be looking for him at that point? So putting
him in a mock draft can be tough.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Okay, I'm gonna give you my every dre There's a
guy like we like to pick. Okay, who's the guy
that's going to go third round, late fourth round?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And I don't know where he's going to go.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But there's a receiver for Louisville that you know who
I'm talking about, big strong, Chris Bell. And so I
was reading a draft preview on him and I've seen
him play like once, and I went back and looked
at YouTube stuff and I'm like, well, that's a starting
NFL wide wide receiver day one. Why isn't he Why
(15:28):
isn't he more? I mean, you can watch three routes
and you're like, oh, that's a pro NFL starting wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Why isn't he higher on the boards.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Well, I mean, yeah, as Miami about Chris Bell, and
they'll tell you best receiver they faced this year. He
would be a first round player if not for the ACL.
Had the ACL late in the year in November, so
a little bit of a discount sticker on his tag.
But no, I'm with you. I'm even going back to
the summer. He was my number two receiver coming into
the year. Big physical, the accelerations outstanding. You feel good
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about the person too, like as a really competitive kid.
And he told me at the combine how his freshman
year of high school didn't make the team, so he
joined the band just so he could go to home
games and away games. He would just he'd put the
instrument up to his mouth. He had no idea what
he was doing. He just wanted to be there for
the football games. And so I think this is an
ascending player. But again, coming back from the knee injury,
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hopefully you know clean bill of health returns to that
form that he showed. But I think that once you
get to the second round, there's gonna be more than
a few teams looking at Chris Bell and saying, Okay,
this is maybe that guy we're missing, because yeah, he
can take a slant and take it the rest of
the way, or he can win down the field. Just big, physical, strong,
You like the ball skills a lot to like about him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, it's funny that we just showed some Miami footage.
He's running away from Miami Hurricane dvs and you're like, oh,
like like running away from fast corners.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
He's the aj brown ish Yeah, and those guys are
hard to come by.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
All Right. Dane Brugler, this is uh, they call it
the Beast. It's at the Athletic His released this morning.
It's it's fantastic, Dan. It's great having you on again.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I appreciate it anytime things calling you bet it's it's
it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No. You know the air thing about the draft that
do you know seven John, seven straight years a team
drafting in the top five has made the playoffs. So
you think, oh, that's the garbage pail of the league.
Last year, Jaggs and New England, both drafting top five,
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made the playoffs. So I'm going to go through this
on the other end. Uh, there's there's it's very interesting
about you start looking at the top five. There's a
couple of teams in that top five is are the
Raiders one of them that feel like they can make
a big lead.
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It is a little chaotic in Milwaukee right now. What
to do with the Jannis. We've talked about it before
on The show Man when the star grumbles privately, That's
actually what happened in the early seventies where the Bucks won.
In nineteen seventy one, they had Leuel cinder and he
(18:52):
told them privately, here, you know, I eventually like to
move somewhere. This is not the city for me. And
they went and got a haul. Obviously he'd done. Koreean
went on to a remarkable all time championship level career.
But usually when the star grumbles, get on the phone immediately,
(19:15):
and Milwaukee did not do that with Giannis. Here's John
Middlkoff of the News.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No no turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Well, last year Jackson Dart was drafting the first round.
He had a good start to his NFL career. He
got his first start, you know, on the field in
Week four, putting up over twenty five hundred yards and
twenty four touchdowns. Heading into year two, he'll have a
new offensive coordinator guiding him in our guy Matt Maggie,
who spoke about what he's seen from his new quarterback.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
I was able to watch a decent amount of Jackson
last year when I was in Kansas City. I remember
coming away really impressed with Jackson and his accuracy. And
then I didn't know back then a year ago, I
didn't hear two years ago, I didn't know how tough
he was, and how good of a runner he was.
He was a really good, sneaky, good runner, tough, physical,
(20:08):
played the quarterback position well, accurate, and you could see
he was a competitor. When I got here to New
York and got to meet him and started talking to him,
it was you could tell right away that everything was true.
I mean, this kid is different that way.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah. And also I think there's something to be says
a good looking kid with a ton of confidence. And
I think wherever the confidence comes from, your IQ, your appearance,
your athletic ability, New York can gobble you up. And
I just think he's one of those kids. You know,
Eli Manning was so great in New York because just
you grow up with Peyton Manning and Archie Manning. Eli
(20:45):
just had a great sense of humor. Nothing bothered elive.
He could close it all off. Jackson to me, he's
got a little bit of a Hey, I may have
been in Oxford, Mississippi, but I can go to the
big city and play. And I do think Lane Kiffin
coaching him for multiple years made him very NFL ready,
And I.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Do think last year he learned a little bit of
a lesson. This is the NFL, and you will get hit,
and you will get hit hard. You know, he got
some concussions. Think about Naggie, who spent a lot of
his career now around Mahomes, who is an improviser, scrambles around,
but for the most part, he's pretty safe behind the
line of scrimmage. And I think you got Malik Neighbors
they signed likely who knows, maybe at five they draft
(21:26):
Jeremiah Love. I mean, this offense could be pretty loaded,
you know what Horball and that mentality that their defense
over the next couple of years is going to be solid.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I think Jackson Darson a pretty good spot.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Getting Matt Naggie, who can really use Patrick Mahomes in
that film and kind of that operation for him to
look up to.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, I keep saying, I know a lot of people
want to trade down. I could see the Giants because
the Giants could use a right tackle and it may
be too early to draft the tackle there, but there's
multiple tackles in the draft I could see.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I could see because they have First of all.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
There's plenty of good receivers, second, third, and fourth round,
a lot of tackles first and second, top of the third.
I just have this feeling that I mean, if they
went and got Carnell tape because the neighbors injuries, I
would get that too. But I think the Giants are
going to have a really interesting draft. I'm really interested
to watch it.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Yeah, I think they're going to be just a tough,
physical team that they've kind of got away from.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
In previous years.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
O K to the NBA who down the street. The Lakers,
I think are in a free fall mode. Colin Reeves
and Lebron obviously they're injured, well, Lebron was out, Reeves injured,
Lucas injured. What was interesting last night there was this
little moment between JJ Reddick and Jared Vanderbilt during a
time out, with Reddick brushing it off and heading back
to the bench. Here's Reddick on the moment postgame.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Just you know, a confluence of things.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Again, it's you know, not getting nothing personal with him
about normal stuff from my end, And I think for
all of this, you know, being undermanned and we've got
a scrap and claw, we've got to all be on
the same page. We got to have the great teammates,
we got to all play hard, call the time out
(23:13):
to get them out of the game, and you know
he reacted, but again normal interaction for me.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a long season. I think, listen,
there's seasons over. There's no getting around it. It's over.
And the frustration. They were a red hot team in March.
I think it's just all bleeding out.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They're lucky.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
They play the Jazz, who literally do not want to
win and have been like that for a couple of years.
But they might not win another game the rest of
the year, right, they play the Warriors, then they play
the Suns, the Jazz, who knows, but they could easily
get swept in the playoffs. I mean this team, which listen,
they were rolling. They had two devastating injuries, but they
(23:53):
are kind of screwed right now, Colin, they got they
got no hope.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, and I actually in a weird way, I know
nobody wants to hear this, but they weren't a serious
championship team. They just don't have the depth, the defenders,
enough good shooters, They can't rebound. A lot of it
was fools gold and beating up on teams that they
you know, Lebron's getting close to the end.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Luca is in an MVP battle.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I not that.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
March was fools gold because they are very good in
the half court offense. But I think that Oklahoma City
loss and the injuries are a wake up call. They
got to get younger, they got to get more athletic,
and if Lebron's coming back, he has got to take
for the one time in his career, he's got to
play mostly for free, which if he doesn't want to,
I totally get it.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You know, you know, I know understand. The Dodger people
have a lot of money to now, you know, run
the Lakers, but they were looking at a home court
series right in Round one, is the three seed and
probably being in the second round even if they didn't
make it to the conference finals. Now they're the five
seed in a free fall. They might just get the
two home games and be sent packed.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I think that's what's gonna happened.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
And who knows this offseason with Lebron we Okay, speaking
of basketball, I watched a decent amount of this press
conference last night.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
North Carolina obviously shocked the basketball world hiring Michael Malone Colum.
They gave him six years fifty million dollars, and they
made him. He's currently the second highest paid coach behind
Bill self at over eight million dollars. Here's Malone and
what he had to say on his introductory presser at
Chapel Hill.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
Really thankful for this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I do not take it lightly.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
If people keep asking me, coach, why would you leave
a chance of coaching in the NBA Again, You're an
NBA coach, You won a championship in Denver in twenty
twenty three. It wasn't an easy decision, but what I
kept thinking about was I have a chance to be
a part of something special, the history, tradition, to be
a part of something much bigger than myself.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
As I said a few minutes ago, this was the
only college job.
Speaker 10 (25:53):
But ever consider you know, if any other job, I
wouldn't even answer the phone.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
That's a good that I want to hear that in Carolina,
so I think.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And also college basketball and college football are more administrative,
so for a lot of these older pro coaches, and
he's not really old, but I think it works today
where years ago it would not work. And so NBA
coaching and NFL coaching feels like it's getting younger, and
college coaching is getting older because you do get a
little bit. I mean the NFL's got a little bit
(26:23):
of a burnout feel to it, where you know, at
the college level, you're on a college campus, You're dealing
with young kids. There's a lot of joy in college basketball.
March is really fun. And you don't have an impulsive
billionaire on top of you. You you know, you may have
a donor you have to suck up too. But at Carolina,
coaching at Carolina is one of the ten best basketball
jobs in the world.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's a great job.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
You think there's any chance in North Carolina Baseball hires
Bruce Bochie next year. It just completes the cycle. I mean,
this is and I do wonder if you're paying. Here's
the thing, you know, part of going to the pros,
right in basketball or football, historically, most to my life.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Is you got a big race. He's making over eight
million dollars.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
I bet if we looked around the NBA, you know,
they're a handful of guys making big money, but there's
not a lot of guys making eight point three million
dollars and have a five year fifty million. So these
college program Signette's making thirteen million dollars. I'm watching Dusty May.
He's got to be looking at whatever Malone got. He's like, Hey,
I know, we just did a contract extension, but we
better at minimum make that equal college. The business is huge,
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so it's very lucrative to take these gigs.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yes, and they're and they're great gigs.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Not everybody can do it, but the you know, I mean,
Indiana's got a top eight business school, and you know,
Mark Cuban writes a check and you know, but when
I hear this, it's not sustainable. It is when you
have a billionaire donor who is engaged with sports, it
becomes much more sustainable.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Wouldn't you imagine North Carolina and Duke have pretty successful
alumni out there in the real world.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, plus, Carolina's got a massive Dean Dome. It's got
a massive facility. So just game day revenue at Carolina.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I mean, if you go to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That region, it's like I always said this about the
Atlanta Braves. If you go in the South right now,
everybody's wearing either a Master's hat or a Brave's hat.
You know, they like dominate the South. You ever go
to the Carolinas. I mean, how many times you've been
to an airport in that part of the country. There
is so much money at UNC. It's just it is MA.
(28:25):
It's just it's got to be one of the more
profitable places.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
To me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It feels like in college sports. I agreed John with
the news.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So seven straight years, as of tomorrow it's officially two
weeks to the draft. Seven straight years a team in
the top five in the draft has made the playoffs
that next year. So last year New England and the
Jags did. So let's put up the top five teams
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in the draft Vegas, the New York Jets, Arizona, the
Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And the New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, so I'm going to eliminate two of them. The Jets,
I don't think the head coach knows what he's doing.
In Arizona, you're in a division with McVeigh stacked roster,
Shanahan good roster, Mike McDonald good roster. So let's just
be realistic. I don't even know who's quarterback in the
Cardinals right now. So Jets, Cardinals, take them out Las Vegas.
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I'm going to reluctantly take them out. Division's good, first
year head coach, rookie quarterback. I think they're going to
be a much improved team, but in that division with
a rookie quarterback, they may not kind of get it
Gelling till Thanksgiving. So then you look at the Titans
and Giants. One of those, if the trend keeps going,
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is going to be a playoff team. I like the
Titans a lot, but the Titans last year. I looked
it up this morning. Here are their three wins. A
one point win over Arizona, a two point win over Cleveland,
and they beat Kansas City without Mahomes. The Titans point
differential was awful. They Robert Salla in that front office,
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need two drafts. They need secondary help, oline help, weapons help.
They just don't have enough good players. So I'm gonna
eliminate them. Plus the Jags are pretty good in that division,
so is Houston. I think the Giants are a playoff team,
and I don't think it's I don't think it's that diffict,
and I love Sola, but you got to be fair
with Robert. They don't have enough players. They need seven
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starters out of the draft. The New York Giants don't.
They need three. The Giants have to find a right tackle,
another weapon on the perimeter, get a good corner safety,
and the Giants are good. I think the Giants between
upgrading and also in the Giants division, here's a big plus.
Philadelphia is noisy and right now there's a lot of
questions Inhiladelphia, Washington. It feels like the GM and the
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coaching staff. Dan Quinn's on the hot seat. Jayden Daniels
off an injury, struggled to stay healthy. So far in
the NFL, Dallas is just not close defensively. So I
look at the Giants and I look at the head coach,
the quarterback, the defensive line. They rush the left tackle.
Never forget, the New York Giants did something last year
that's weird. There were four and thirteen. They led by
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ten or more in five of their losses. That's an
NFL record. Most of the NFL, the Titans were bad,
the Giants weren't. They just couldn't steal wins. And I
think the Giants are a playoff team. Leading by ten points,
they blew five games leading entering the fourth. They blew
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three games and they were off in one score games.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And a lot of that is they have rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You know, Scataboo got hurt, couldn't depend on the run game,
couldn't melt the clock, and a rookie quarterback. So and
I was look in this morning at the Giants. I
think they'll make it eight straight year at the Giants' opponents.
So they've got some tough road games, Seahawks, Rams, Lions,
those are tough road games. They got some do w's
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at home, Commanders, Cardinals, Browns, Saints, Titans, the Giants. The
Giants have nine wins on this schedule. Now, I don't
think they're going to go to LA and Seattle and win.
But you don't none of us know. I mean right
now with CJ. Stroud and the Texans, I think the
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Lions knew OC is good.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You look at that schedule, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I think the Giants are an eight or nine win team.
And I'll say this if, depending on how the draft goes,
if they get like a carneal tape and neighbors, They've
got the kid from Baltimore, scatabooze back.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know, you think to yourself, top of the draft,
that's not the league seven straight years. Here's John Harbaugh
on meeting with the Giants players this week.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
It's just a bunch of people coming together to build
something together that is that is a team and plays
like a team, and plays like a team better than
any other team. If you do that, then you have
a chance to be the best team, because the best
team is a team who plays the best. I might
have said that in the meeting today, you know, And
it was fun to be around the guys. It was
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fun to stand in front of the New York Giants today.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
All right, coming up next the NBA. Do they know
what to do with him? Because he's certainly good enough
to make an impact dominant college player that's around the corner.
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Speaker 1 (34:14):
The You know, I'm not a gigantic believer in you know,
you draft basketball or football, but especially in basketball, I
think you can spot talent really quickly. Now there are
guys that age differently like some guys mature. A fascinating
guy in the NBA draft is Michigan's Jaxell Lendeborg. He
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didn't play basketball until his senior year in high school.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So people go always old.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, people are worried about drafting old guys when they've
been playing since they're seven and they're dominating because they've
got a beard with grace hair in it. This guy
just didn't play until his last year of high school,
didn't really take the sport seriously. So to me, you're
just getting a guy. Yes he's a little older, but
he's got so much room to grow. All you have
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to do is look good at shooting. He's just a
way better shooter than the rest of his career.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
And you know, so.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm looking at a six nine, two forty guy that
can shoot, that didn't pick up basketball till probably seven
years after everybody else he's playing against picked up basketball
and here was Dusty May on him.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
The processing power is his strength. I don't know if
I've ever been around someone that can can learn things
on the fly and be able to change his move
or his body contortion based on something that he saw
a month ago. And so that processing, his passing ability,
his ability to see the floor, I think those are
(35:48):
all really unique now. And he's a he's a different
athlete where when you watch him, he doesn't seem like
a plus athlete, and then you see him make these
athletic plays where go underneath and on three guys, and
I just think he's he's so untapped because he's so
new to the game.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, so I like him a lot. And I also
think he's a really bright kid. Size, shooting, skill, scheme fit.
He's one of those guys that fits everywhere. I don't know,
I think you can. I guess this is the way
I look at it. If I was a GM in
the NFL, I do think because there's so much physicality
and power in the sport, sometimes guys just it takes
(36:26):
them a long time to get strong enough. I mean,
you'll I've talked to NFL players who go are like
strong and they're like, I wasn't strong enough at tackle
until like Thanksgiving of my second year in the NFL.
And they were in college for four and five years.
So there are slower developed players. And it is sometimes
(36:47):
in football you have all this tape, but some guys
just they don't their bodies just don't get strong enough
until they're like twenty five twenty four.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Basketball is different. I always tell the story my daughter.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
My daughter was played a lot of basketball when she
was young, like six seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, you know,
high school. And I remember going to a gym. It
was a girls tournament and I'm sitting there and there's
a bunch of guys that looked like AAU coaches. And
I sit down and there's like eight courts. It's in Hartford, Connecticut,
and I'm watching for three minutes and I guy next
(37:24):
to me, I'm like, who's that little girl over in
the far court. He goes, that's the best player in
the gym. I'm like, what, Graycian, He's like, seventh. Girls
mature more rapidly than boys do, and so he's like,
oh yeah, in basketball, you can tell sixth seventh grade.
I remember one time getting a call from a friend
named Brian. Brian Berger worked for Nike, and he was
(37:48):
watching Dwight Howard and Dwight Howard was like thirteen or
fourteen years old. He's like, yeah, that's the next great
big in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I'm like, he's fourteen. It's like, now you can tell.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I think basketball's one of those that what's fascinating about
Yaxel is he didn't play the game. I mean, most
of these kids, you know, they're hoopers when they're seventy
nine years old. He started late, late high school. So
that to me is a and he's this good already
with that little of basketball.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It's like wow. So that to me is what I
you know, late bloomer.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I just feel like in football, because it's power based,
you do get late bloomers physically. In basketball, I kind
of feel you like, you know, by fifteen years old,
you got the Nikes and the sports apparel companies, they
got attract at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, they know
who's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I think Yaxle is an outlier.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
He didn't play at all, and that happens also in football,
Like Antonio Gates did not play college football. I mean,
I'm not saying it doesn't happen in football, but I
mean Pascal say Ockham is a prime example. He didn't
play organized basketball till he was seventeen, and he's tremendous.
But he's the rare basketball player that, like you couldn't
(39:03):
identify at sixteen he didn't play. So I feel like,
is he going to be as good Yacksville as good
as Pascal Siakam.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I don't know that that would be. That's a big ask,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's to play that little of basketball and to be
that good in the last couple of years. He's just
a different player from the perimeter, and he said he's
just natural. Everything looks easy. I always say that about
Justin Herbert John, Like there are certain guys I want
Fernando Mendoza, like the ball just comes out of his hand.
He's very easily accurate. Then there's other guys. Sam Darnold's
(39:36):
areadly got to work on it. He's already worked on
his game. He's not effortlessly accurate, Whereas I always feel
like Mendoza. You watch certain guys, Herbert's one of them.
He just comes out and the ball goes to the
place he wants it to go to.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
I didn't have a chance to ask, but I saw
some picture online. Donald just got married last weekend. Where
were you sitting.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I didn't know he got married.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, he just got married.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Good for Sam. What a year for that guy, A
heck of a year.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Josh Allen standing right behind him, you know, Josh Allen over,
He's one of the grooves men looking at Sam.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Darnold got a ring.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Come in his way, and Josh is back there, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Having Sam. Sam's roady.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I saw Sam in watch Hill, Rhode Island. He was
at Christian McCaffrey's wedding.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah uh, and he was no longer part of Carolina,
but he was in Minnesota and we were just talking
about everybody like Sam.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Sam's just like beach kid down to earth.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Could could win this powerball lottery, which he kind of
did in football.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Never changed quality guy. Where do you go? Sam? Michael
read former Milwaukee Buck last year
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