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The volume. Well, hello friends, this is John Middlecoff in
the Go Lo Podcast, and the Masters is officially here.
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So very very excited. I thought I'd do a little
podcast from Los Angeles about Augusta because, like many people,
I can't wait. So we'll kind of go over some
big picture stuff. Who I bet on? We'll take a
couple of questions at golo pod. Is the Instagram fire
in those dms from Rory defending Scotty had a baby?
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Bryson and Ram who I'm picking to win some Top
ten bets, a couple flyers, just a fun week. You know,
you're either at the office or at work watching on
your computer. If you're working at home, you got it
on the background. Amazon Prime Now is covering it. You
got Jim Nance, you got It's God Van Pelton, Butler Cabin.
It's just hard to beat. So very very excited. You
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We separated it from three and out. We have our
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up there and let's just dive into the Masters. I've
been thinking a lot about this is you know, we
talk a lot of football, right and the one thing.
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There's multiple reasons for us explosion. Right, it's a tailor
made sport for television. Anyone that's been to an NFL game,
the event is much better on television than in person.
And the scarcity of the event, given that it doesn't
happen like you don't have three games in a week
so you can't go. This game doesn't matter because they
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all matter, right, whether you're playing high school football, college football,
or the NFL, every game matters. You practice all week,
you game plan, and I think the power of the masters, right,
it's the only major that's played at the same event,
but there's this build up every single year, and lately
we've had you know, the Scottis Scheffler's, the John ROMs
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and obviously Rory getting over the hump last year. So
some huge names it's historically tied with, you know, guys
like Tiger or Phil Jack Arnie, you know, I mean,
the biggest players, the most gary player, the most important
players in the history of the sport have won this event.
And there's this element of the you get the green
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jacket when you get into the club, right, whether you're
a champion or whether you're a member of the club.
It's why there's always reports from the ground floor of
like I just saw Roger Goodell or Peyton Manning walk
by in a green jacket. And there's just something that
almost feels, I don't know, unattainable to this event. Right,
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most of us, Right, if you're listening to this and
you're a big sports fan, more than likely you have
been to a college or an NFL game, You have
been to a aor league baseball game, you have been
to an NBA game. Right, most of us have been
to an event or two, some of us more if
you're season ticket holders, right, But this is an event
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even if you're an active like attendee that you're like,
I've always wanted to go to the Masters, but I
also acknowledge I may never go. It just may never happen.
So there's this it feels huge, it really matters NFL style.
And then there's like kind of this mythology to I
just don't know if I'll ever get to attend. I mean,
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I hope I can attend one day, but there's no
guarantee that it ever works out, that I ever get invited,
I ever get access to tickets. That it just it
just might not happen, and I'm cool with that, Like
I've come to grips with that. But for me, this event,
and let's face it, we are in this world where
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non football, in the sporting world, things have to feel
really big, right. The NCAA Tournament just happened. It felt big.
Arizona against Michigan, Michigan against Yukon, Yukon against Duke. Those
felt like moments. Whether the games worked out or not,
but going into the game it felt really important. The
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World Series a couple of years ago, Yankees Dodgers, like
it doesn't happen very much, it felt massive. The ratings
reflected it was big. The Kentucky Derby always feels big,
and this is the pinnacle of golf, and they've had
a lot of momentum. The players rated well, Scottie Scheffler
over the years, like they've had more interest. More people
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are playing golf now than ever. But this is the
peak of the season, and this peak of the season
because so many casual people pay attention. I love golf,
playing golf. I'm actually playing tomorrow in Los Angeles, pretty
fired up. But I understand that a lot of people
don't like golf, think it's boring or historically have and
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then slowly have got into it. And as you age,
I mean, hell, Lebron James now is really into golf
and it was something five years ago he probably would
have laughed at, because as you age you kind of
come and have an appreciation for it, and most of
us it's the one sport where you can play courses
that these guys play, except this one. Because even if
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you play golf and know a lot of people and
have a lot of money, probably very very limited chance
that you will ever step foot with your golf clubs
on this course. Even if you get the hook up
through work through you win the raffle and you attend
this event, most people that want to play this course
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will never ever get the opportunity. And so I think
there's that element of that that the Jim nance, Hello friends,
how pristine everything looks on television. I think they've adapted
pretty well to giving us what we want as the
consumer on our couch or you know, in the office
on our computer, is we want to watch as many
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holes and as many players in this event starting Thursday
morning through Sunday as possible, and Amazon Prime is now
carrying this Augustine doesn't need the money. They could. They
just do not care. It's a very it's unlike anything else.
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I mean, it really is from the standpoint of, like,
we don't even need to sell this. I mean CBS.
I heard this couple of years ago on a podcast,
Like when they do a deal with the NCAA tournament
or with the NFL, it's usually five a ten year contract, right,
We're not giving you all this money for a decade long.
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They do yearly deals with the Masters because Masters just
want even though they've done business with CBS now for
as long as I can remember, kind of keeping it
on your toes. They have certain rules that you have
to follow. We don't call them fans, call them the patrons, right,
which some of that stuff's kind of cheesy, but also
you kind of appreciate it. With Augusta, people are not
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allowed to bring phones in the venue. And I can't
even imagine. Sometimes I was watching it was last week
the Valero Texas Open and there are Ludvig kind of
hits it into the trees, which he's known to do
on Sundays, and there's like this group of people in
a half circle behind him, and every single person has
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their phone open to video the shot. Most of those
people and I can be guilty of this as well.
You do something like that if you're at a concert
and you like, never look at it again. You're like,
why did I just take it in? And we don't
do that as much anymore. And that's one thing that
still happens at Augusta. And I just think that if
this event goes well, because they're naturally that the Rory storyline,
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you know, Bryce and rom come in with a lot
of momentum. Obviously, Scotty just had a second child, which
I'm fascinated. I didn't know, you know, super young children
could fly. Did he have his child in you know,
the Augusta area and fly his doctor out, which is
something that's probably much more feasible when you have the
means of Scotty. I'm fascinated to know the logistics. I
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didn't get the chance to watch his press conference yet,
but maybe it takes a little bit of a load
and pressure off of him that it's out, it's healthy.
He can just play this event he been playing bad.
Maybe takes his mind off some of his struggles. Again,
all relative, but there's just nothing better than Augusta National.
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And to me, it's just the way it looks on television,
like the last couple of weeks, you just watch him,
it's just doesn't look great. I mean last week and
I get they had weather, it was just I love golf.
It was tough to watch. It did not pop on television.
And that's why that it pains me to know that
they might leave Hawaii. It's like it kind of pops
onto the players, really pops on televion. Pebble Beach pops.
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Nothing pops quite like this, some of those shots, some
of those visuals. It's just the best and I can't wait.
And hopefully the Master is a little like you know, pizza,
even when it's not great, it's still pizza. Like, so
even if it's not Rory versus Bryson in the final,
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in the final, you know Twosome and the ebbs and
flows of last year. And I watched the Amazon Prime
deal on Rory, which I thought was pretty good because
I think sometimes I remember in the moment, thinking this
is the craziest thing I've ever seen. But then time happens, right,
life happens. You get the summer, you get a football season,
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you have a child, you do whatever, and you kind
of forget. You're like, god, that was pretty crazy. You
just say that because you know it's pretty crazy, But
you might if you're not like some diehard Rory fan,
Rory the Caddie or there, you kind of forget the
little details beside him chunking it into thirteen rewatching on Amazon,
You're like, oh, yeah, he doubled the first hole to
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go in for a tie for the lead with Bryson
going into whole two after having a two shot lead
to start today, he doubled whole one. I can't imagine.
You're like, this is insane. It's no different, Like people
use the analogy all the time twenty eight to three.
I bet if you sat down and watched the second
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half of the Falcons and Patriots again, if you're a
diehard Patriot fan or a diehard Falcon fan, you probably
have a better remembrance of some of those moments than me. Like,
I just remember the High Tower sack, But I bet
you think that is what did I just witness. That's
what I felt like watching Rory McElroy's Amazon documentary. I'm like,
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this is even more insane than I remember, and it
felt pretty cool, it felt big, It was well timed.
I think ship Nuck also came out of the book
talking about like his divorce, which I kind of appreciate.
I saw someone on Twitter this morning say something like
Alan Schipnuk gives zero fucks just put out the book
of Rory Master's week when he's a defending champ, talking
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about like his alleged affair that everyone's you know, denied,
and his divorce, and like, God, this guy's kind of
respected in a weird way. Just really, I don't even
think I could do that, but I just don't think
he cares. And I don't think Rory cares that much either. Again,
he's probably you know, eating his Wagoo's steak right now
with a with a glass of Pinot and just enjoying
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life with a smile, ear to ear as he should,
which kind of sucks because I've been thinking a lot
about part of that documentary and it's, well, you know,
he's talking about it for his whole career. Is a
lot of golfers his age, right in their thirties idolized
Tiger Woods when they were young. He was their golf hero,
no different than Kobe looking up at Michael right or
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you know, some of these guys, they grew up on
Brett favre idolizing him. Where now some of these guys
with Tom Brady, that's who you look up to, and
you finally get this moment after a decade, plush your
Grand Slam. You've won the career Grand Slam. You've really
just cemented yourself as like an all time legend. I mean,
he already was, but really this was kind of the
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icing on the cake. Whether he never wins a major again,
which I think he will, not necessarily this week, but
just over the course of the next five years, hell,
he might win a couple and Tiger was doesn't attend
like that kind of sucks. You know, There's been a
lot of people like I feel for Tiger. He's battling
some issues. Yeah, we've known, We've known for twenty years.
Tiger's got a lot of demons. I know a lot
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of people with demons. I'm not trying to act like
it's not a big deal, but like Pukunaku is down
the road right now in Los Angeles in a rehapp
I'm sure there are a lot of individuals there just
like I bet if we drove to Palm Springs to
Betty Ford Clinic, be fucking packed. You know, he ain't alone,
and if you're Rory like it probably would have been
a bet. He dreamed about the moment of like his
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cheers and looking and seeing Tiger Woods, and then he
looks and Tiger's out there, Like that sucks. I mean
that that really sucks. So you know, it's the first
time in thirty two plus years the Tiger and Phil
are not attending this event. You know, Phil put out
a statement he's they've had some personal health issues, which
I'm not exactly sure. I mean, it hasn't been reported
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what's going on. But I just think that the good
part right now about the PGA Tour and these majors
is for whatever two decades, it was always considered, you know,
or always said Tiger didn't move the needle, he was
the needle, which is true. Golf was I mean a
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niche's niche like, it was very limited to the amount
of power it had in this country in terms of
getting random people to watch a tournament, especially when I
was a kid. And then he came around and he
just became a fucking worldwide rock star. That even if
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you didn't like golf, and a lot of people did not.
Twenty years ago, a lot of people did not. Fifteen Hell,
in twenty nineteen, when Tiger was on and Tiger was
playing well and Tiger was in the mix, people tuned in.
I remember Barry Bonds and the peak of his steroids
use when Barry Bonds got up to bat, whether you
couldn't stand him or you were like me, you loved him,
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you watched him hit, and a lot of people thought, like,
how what's gonna happen when Tiger goes away? Well, Tiger
kind of unofficially did go away, and when he got
in the car crash at Riff and ruined his angle,
that unofficially ended his career. Never been the same, never
will be. I consider him now like unofficially done, never
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playing again. Don't expect him really to ever play in
these events that matter, like those days are gone. And
for a long time it was you know, Jordan Speed,
the Brooks DJ Can they carry it? I think there's
enough momentum now with and Live participated in this, just
creating conversation. Obviously, Bryson, Rahm Bryson and ram Or big
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time you got Rory Scotty and some of these other
random guys on the PJ Tour who are really good.
I think the Ryder Cup buzz and golf just doesn't
need him as much as they once did. I ideally
he'd be fifty and still be pretty decent and still playing,
but that's not the world we live in. He's currently
in some rehab across the pond doing who knows what.
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And Phil obviously his career kind of unofficially ended on
the PGA Tour when he won at Kiawa and won
the PGA Championship was a pretty cool moment as well.
But I think both those guys, they're kind of swan
songs on the course were the nineteen Masters and the
twenty one PGA Championship, and they're never coming around it again,
and they're obviously not factoring in. I don't Phil finished
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second here a couple of years ago with the crazy
Round on Sunday, But I think golf's in a position
now where they can handle those guys going away. It's
a big question with the NBA, like in four years
when Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, and Lebron James are not
playing in the NBA, what do you do because I'll
promise you that's like the thunder are not going to
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carry you. They just will not. And I think probably
a lot of people are nervous, and that was the
case with golf with Tiger Woods, and now I think
that we saw earlier this year the players that Cam
Young won it, like did five million people watch? You're like, okay,
this is all gonna be okay. And this week draws
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in a lot of casual people. And I think the
Rory storyline, obviously Bryce and Rom I think is a
big deal because one of those two guys, I think
as it wouldn't shock me both of them are in
the mix come Sunday. And obviously Scotty playing well. I mean,
I think the Masters, which has had some random winners
over the years, but I also I think that kind
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of speaks to the crew of guys in the PGA
Tour at the time. I'd be stunned if our leader
board doesn't look incredible. I mean, just look at the
winners over the last handful of years. Even the twenty
year was DJ, A couple of years of Scottie Rory Rom.
I mean we have had last year the final group
is Rory and Bryson. A couple of years before it
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was Rom and Brooks. I mean, you're getting the heavy
hitters coming around, so I'm really fired up. And that's
what I think makes this tournament so cool. Is unlike
a lot of Majors, where it's one hundred and fifty
one hundred and fifty two guys. This is someone told
me ninety one players. Well, there's a lot of When
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you win the Masters, you technically can play for your
entire life. And there are a lot of guys that
get in, like the US Amateur winner, you know, international
players that win certain events. There's like thirty guys that
can win this tournament, and that honestly feels extreme, But
it also feels like the guy Matt fit Patrick if
you just did a power ranking, or Bob MacIntyre right so,
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or Tommy Fleetwood is in this tournament as much as
say Scotty or Rory right or as equally as a chance.
And over the last couple of years, like I loved
Rory last year, you know, and I love Bryson last year.
Now I parlayed them all. I didn't have him individually,
but it was pretty clear, like a heavy hitter was
gonna win. It doesn't feel like that right now, Like
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I'd be stunned, honestly of Rory top Ten. I just
think he's in a good mood. There's gotta be an
incredible feeling walking around the grounds with his green jacket.
Every clip I've seen of him, he's had a massive smile.
This is it doesn't professionally, this has to be one
of the most surreal, cool weeks of his career. Might
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be and I bet he might say this later on
in the season, He's like, that was one of the
more genuine, just excitement level weeks I've had to be
around a golf court in a long long time, and
I just I don't expect him to win, you know.
And Scotty, I think it's really hard the kid. The
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play has been off. But you know, I think we
have this group of you know, Matt Fitzpatrick's, Cam Young's,
Bob McIntyre, Ludwig some of those guys just this is
a great opportunity and I think that makes it really fun.
You know, Marikowa his injury, what is that going to
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be like Xander? You know, Justin Rose was in a
playoff here last year, he already won this year. He's
a guy that's had a ton of success here. Adam
Scott previous winner, older guy that you just that's the
thing about this tournament. You know, a guy can be
playing really shitty, like I put a little money on
Jordan speeth in over the Texas events and you're watching
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me like this is tough to watch. But then he
can show up here in and all of a sudden
be tied for the lead on like midday Saturday. Because
this is an event about course history, course knowledge, comfortable
in the environment, there's a level of nerves involved in this.
All these guys talk about the way the greens are
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so difficult. I was talking to a buddy. I'm not
going to give him away because he wanted to keep
it under wraps. Who got the opportunity to play here
like a year ago. And he's you know, a high handicapper,
like probably like a twenty but most of us, you know,
he plays a decent amount of golf. He's got a
lot more into it, he said. The caddy, because you
go out with the caddy points at a place when
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you're on the green two putt and you're like, what,
why would I hit the ball there. He's like, trust me,
you got to hit it here, tap it, you know,
it's like a fifteen foot putt and it's a crazy break.
And he's like, and not in a million years, if
that caddy didn't exist, I would aimed like a ball
outside and my ball would have ran off the green.
And there's clearly a level. This is why. But years
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ago Phil Micholson fin a second, this is why Justin
Rose can shoot like sixty four on a Sunday because
your understanding of the greens, which is a big deal.
It's why Jordan Speed, I'm just not gonna count him out.
And my pick to win the Masters this year is
Bryson d Chambeau, which a couple of years ago you
would have laughed me out of the room, like you're
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picking Bryson d Chambeau who famously called this like a
parse sixty seven and then proceeded to shoot like seventy six,
and everyone and their mother rightfully so made fun of them.
I don't think Augusta was happy with those comments. He
was talking about like hitting balls over trees onto other holes.
It's like, Bryson, just play the fucking golf course, especially
because you famously. You know a lot of people have
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said it's an advantage to be able to draw the ball. Well,
anyone that's watched Bryson D. Chambeau's YouTube channel, let alone,
watched him play over the course of his career, especially
since he has this new kind of swing setup. He
works the ball right to left, which can be an
advantage and his comfort level because they don't allow green
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reading books at the Masters. Over the last couple of years,
I mean, he was two down going into Sunday and
it was tied for the lead after I'm trying to
do the math here with seventeen holes to play. And
two years ago he finished tied for sixth, and he
did not play well in the weekend. Last year he
finished I guess two years ago he finished tied for
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six and he shot seventy five to seventy three. Like
to me, this is a guy I will be stunned
if Bryson D. Chambeau doesn't win the Masters, or I
mean over the course of his career. I'm not saying
I'm gonna pick him this week. Who knows, it's hard.
I think over the course of the next five six years,
Bryson D. Chambau is gonna be a Master's champ, which
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will be incredible. No player could win the Masters, and
people be more interested in what he would pick on
the menu, Like is there a chance you're getting a
chocolate protein shake? Is there a chance you're just getting
like a grilled piece of chicken and some brown rice.
I mean, you probably do some swanky shit, But I
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think he wins. He's played great and live for whatever
that means. But to me, whether you're playing a muni
or whether you're playing the toughest course in the world.
If I'm playing one on one against John Ram, which
he did in South Africa, and I beat him in
sudden death, like that's saying something because a lot of
people are gonna pick John Rahm this week, who also
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I wouldn't be shocked if he's in the mix as well.
If there was a bet where you could take Rom
and Bryson one of the two guys to be in
one of the final three groups on Sunday, that would
be an auto hammer to me, I'm taking Bryson of
the two, but and you can get him right now
hard Rock bet nine to one. I just think if
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you can hammer him Top five top ten. I'd just
be stunned if he's not in the mix, I really would.
I think he's confident coming in. I think the last
couple of years has given him the capability to go, Okay,
I can play here, Okay, I'm comfortable in this environment.
I got Rory a couple of years ago at Pinehurst.
He got me last year at the Masters the other thing,
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and I was thinking this like a basketball coach, a
football coach. Rory on the doc said that after a
whole nine, when Rory Birdie's Bryson misses and Rory is
a four shot lead over him, he said, walking the
whole ten, I looked at Bryson and I thought he's
out of the tournament, which turned out to be true.
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But if I'm Bryson, I would use that as motivation.
And yeah, I don't know what else to say besides
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a lot. This week is by all accounts this tournament.
The weather has been fantastic, it has not rained much
and currently it is rock hard, which it could play
very difficult in terms of obviously the putting around the green.
Chipping around the green could be diabolical. If you miss
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approach shots, you are down right you are rolling off
the green different angles. It can be very difficult chipping
and approach play like to avoid crazy hard chips, approach
plays key. Say what you want about Ludwig, He's had
some He definitely imploded at the players. Hard for me
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to say that at last week when he had a
lead and then it started a torential downpour and crazy
wins and he played like shit. There is not a
guy that I'm more confident like. If all the players
in the field, I won't count Scotty because historically he's
like a top ten master. There is no one I
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like more to top ten than Ludvig at plus one eighty.
Just you can't take him to I know he's gonna
be kind of a sexy trend deep pick to win.
It's hard for me to pick him to win when
he just doesn't win very often, and when he is
leading these tournaments or tied for the lead, he something
weird happens. But one thing he does, and this is
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what he shares in common with Scotty, is his floor
is extremely high. So to me plus one eighty to
top ten, I don't like it. I love it. And
there's a reason, you know, they say in what does
Ludwig do? He can, you know, work a work, a fade,
work a cut. But to me, when I think Ledvig,
I think a drawer of the golf ball, high ball flight,
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drawer of the golf ball. Bryson de Chambo fits this place. Well,
why do lefties have success? Phil Mickelson, Bubba Watson, Mike
weir have success here because those guys, they're ball flight,
not a drop. They can play a cut, whether it's
on whole two, whether it's on hoole ten, whether it's
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you know, if you get behind, like the Rory shot
last year, on a whole fifteen. They can cut the
ball at the bunker on hole eighteen right where sometimes
it's a harder shot for the right hander that if
he plays the cut there, he's in the trees and
he's fucked, which we've seen happen sometimes. Bob McIntyre has
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really turned into a high level golfer. I mean, you
watch him, I kind of appreciate the body type. To me,
you get him top ten plus two thirty. So I'm
taking Bryson to win nine to one. I'm taking Ludvig
and McIntyre to top ten plus one eighty and plus
two fifty. Excuse me, now, I am gonna take a
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couple of flyers. If you've watched him play this year,
he's all over the map and anytime you look up,
and I did this the other day at Valero, he
was between two trees. I think I saw something online
where someone's like, no, one's more likely if you see
someone in the trees. If you're at a golf tournament
and go, I wonder who that is. For it to
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be Jordan Speed, he can be all over the map.
But that's the thing with Augusta. You don't this isn't
the players, this isn't Oakmont. You can spray it around
a little bit and course knowledge and just kind of
understanding the moment and being comfortable in the environment matters
a lot. Now, Am I confident Jordan Speed? Like? Would
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I put a lot of Nuggies on it?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But when you can get Speed at fifty to one,
to me, there was enough there to be like, I'd
like a little magic and I'm biased, Like I just
want to root for the guy now something I'm a
little more confident. I know he just had a bad week.
But if you tell me, this place is rock hard
and it's playing hard, and this is a tournament between
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twenty to thirty guys, like I've seen this song and
danced before. There's a guy named Brooks Koepka that broke
it down years ago. That why he's successful in majors.
He's like, you can cut out half the field immediately,
then the next half there is going to be overwhelmed
by emotions, and then the next half of the next group,
who even if they are mentally dialed in and can
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handle everything, their game's not going to be really playing well.
So then you're at such a small percentage of people
who's actually playing well and who can handle the pressure
that they don't really know how to navigate mistakes. Now,
Brooks is not putted well this year, but Tita Green,
he's been excellent. And if you tell me that this
course is like ball striking, is going to be put
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at a premium because the greens are going to be
rock hard and this isn't the DJ Fall Masters where
it's soft and balls are, you know, stopping on the green.
I'm gonna take Brooks a fifty to one, and I
look hard. I bet has him fifty to one, Like
I like having a little juice on a guy that's
comfortable in the bright lights. Now, if you don't want
to bet them to outright win, to me top ten,
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top five, like I can see scenarios where Kopka is
just in the mix in this event. Now, my one flyer,
I know a lot of people have brought up justin Rose.
I'm gonna go with another former champion who's in his forties,
just because I like the odds at seventy five to one,
and that's Adam Scott. One thing I did is I
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actually have a parlay with Adam Scott to win and
Ludwig the top ten last week, which he did. But
Adam Scott's a guy that I threw a couple of
nuggies on at seventy five to one to just hope
Kent lightning in a bottle. I think there are a lot,
you know, a lot of people are on Cam Young personally.
For me, Cam Young is I'm gonna place a very
aggressive wager at the PGA Championship in a month at Aronomic.
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I think Cam Young wins an ironomic, he wins a
pg Championship, or he wins the Open. I don't necessarily
see him winning this tournament. Could be wrong, and I'm
a Cam Young Stan I'm rooms for the guy. Xander
is a guy that I think is flying under the
radar a little bit. I think Marikawa would have been
a sexy pick if he hadn't fucked up his back
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at the Players. I think, obviously Fleetwood's a guy that
can kind of turn on, but he's been off. He's
got this. You know, he's always wearing different clothing. A
little weird because he can't get a clothing deal. Hurd
some details on that. Kind of weird that business they're
in that way. But he probably made a lot of
money on Nike in his prime. So to recap Bryson,
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my flyers are Brooks and Speed and just in terms
of little longer odds, and my big time flyer is
Adam Scott. My two top ten bets are Ludwig and
Bob McIntyre. I think what makes this event so cool
is you just turn on. You just feel good. And
there's something about how pristine the grass, the vibes look
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when it goes viral. That you get a sandwich for
two or three dollars when you can get a beer
for three dollars, it's like that stuff doesn't exist any anymore.
I got a small coffee, now I get it. I'm
in Beverly Hills at this hotel. You go downstairs like
I just need a cold brew for the afternoon. I
need a little juice, and they're like, that'll be ten dollars.
I'm like Jesus Christ. You go to the airport You're like,
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I'm so thirsty, and then you get a water It's
like twelve dollars, Like this is egregious. But what am
I gonna do? Fucking go to the bathroom and drink
sink water like you gotta got it? Got you by
the balls? The Masters could break people over the coals.
I see it with the Players Championship. You know those things,
uh and went viral this year. How expensive everything is,
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And to me, that's always something that you share on
group text, like God, I want a pimento cheese sandwich
or do you know what the key is? You go
with the barbecue chicken and you mix it with the
pimento cheese and it melts in your mouth. I'm like, oh,
hell yeah. So I'm excited, I really am, and I
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can't wait for this thing to get going. Let me
answer a couple quick golf questions from the at Golo pod.
(35:14):
This is from so you just instagram me. I will
answer your questions here on the pod. This from Jared.
I've heard you mentioned that golf has really taken off
in the last five years. Made me think of all
these golf simulator businesses that seem to be popping up everywhere.
I went to one recently that served good cocktails and
it was fun. Have you ever been and did you
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enjoy it? They seem to be popular enough, although do
you see those being a fad and eventually suffering the
same fate as top golf. I think they are. I
went to one probably in the last six months in Scottsdale,
same thing. It was really fun. We had some drinks,
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we got some app tizers, you know, they were the
girls could come. There were a bunch of dudes there
could bring their girlfriends or their wives. A couple of
babies were there. It was just an easy hang. But
I enjoy it more in top golf. Hot take. I
don't really like top golf. Never really did. Like if
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I'm hitting outside, I just would rather be on a
driving range. Now I get the The first time I
ever went to top golf, I went in Vegas, which
Vegas's Top Golf has the big screens in the back
with the games on. It's pretty cool. It's right there
on the strip. But like, if you told me, hey,
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you want to meet me at top golf, my first
reaction is probably no, not really where if you go, Hey,
I got this cool place? Got sweet simulators. They got
a bar, you want to come, have a beer and
hit some shots. I'd probably be interested. Do I think
it's a little fatty? Probably?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Do?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I think the simulator now, I don't know about the cost,
you know, because you know, like top golf, you got
overhead costs. It's expensive. The time I went, the one
in Scott's Tale was pretty empty. So you know, I
don't know what you need to you know, to make
your money and just to break even. It's it's not
a cheap endeavor. So you know that the simulators by
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themselves are not inexpensive. My guess would be are they
everywhere in five years? Probably not, But I don't think
they hurt currently. I'd probably bet against the big picture,
but I could be wrong. You know, technology has just
exploded in all of all of our lives. I do
think it's pretty cool to just be able to go
to a simulators like you want to play Pebble Beach,
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you want to play Augusta, you want to play St Andrews,
you want to play you name it, you can play
the course. That aspect of it to me is pretty cool.
I do enjoy that. Uh So maybe I'll be a
little one. Maybe I won't totally bet against it. Would
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love to hear your thoughts on Tiger's train wreck or
Tiger's wreck and DUI kind of ironic. On your last
podcast on Go Low, you said Tiger is back. I
think I talked about this a little bit on a
football mail bag. It was hard for me to watch
and I didn't really you know. I saw the clip
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of him talking to Trump, which I was with the
buddy last night, and I saw this reported that most
people think that Tiger called Donald to try to get
out of the DUI, and it was reported like at
that time Donald was in Air Force one and you
can't get a direct line there, so he called Tiger
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and a lot of people, you know in the golf world.
Trump a couple of weeks ago said Tiger was not
playing in the Masters, and it was almost like Donald
had called him, like hey, I didn't mean because then
Tiger had claim that he was trying to play. It
was almost like Donald just happened to call Tiger at
that time, is what a buddy of mine thought. That
was more likely than Tiger called him to get out
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of the DUI, because he would just call his lawyer
and then that guy. They got direct lines of Donald like,
what's he going to get him out of the UI
right there? Which maybe he did, but it was just
he didn't feel that. Again, I could only watch like
five minutes. I didn't really watch much of him hiccupping
in the back. When he was doing the different things,
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he looked pretty normal to me. He clearly pops a
lot of pills. That's been pretty well established. He literally
had him on him. I've said forever, if you like
doing something a lot, like I really enjoy talking for
a living. It's one of the only things in life
I'm decent at right most things I can't do. I
can't do DIY projects at home. I can't do a
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lot of things. So the things that you can do,
and if you get good at him, if you prefer actually,
if they become lucrative, you almost like triple down and
it becomes a defining aspect of your life, whether you
like it or not. Golf has defined this guy's life
since he was two years old. He became one of
the most famous athletes of his generation any sport worldwide
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because he could swing at golf club and he's a
golf nerd like he's a golf nerd. He can talk golf.
He can like he just the golf world is in
his soul. Well, the only way that he can play
at this point in time. With I don't know fifty surgeries.
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There's like twenty five that we know about. There has
to be countless more that we don't. He has, you know,
essentially a fake ankle. He has a fuse back. He
has a fucked up knee towards Achilles last year. He'll
never be If you and I were in the same
scenario with those injuries, our golf career would be done.
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We would not be At most, maybe we get an
elliptical and the sonnet feel good. Well, lookie Tiger, what
does he like to do? Like to lift, likes to
work out, so he likes golf and working out. Those
are like his two things that he does. He has
unlimited money now, and I just think it's if you
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tell me that the rehab or whatever works and he
no longer can take the powerful pills, I'll tell you
he's never swinging a golf club again. He's never played
on the Champions Tour. He's more likely to be in
a wheelchair in ten years than he is fucking thriving
on the golf course, and clearly he has abused him
and had issues with him. But I just think if
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the pill thing goes through like tiger Woods in a
golf club, it's cyonar, It's over. That's all she wrote.
So I just think that a huge part of that
pill addiction that he has is because of what he
does right now. I obviously it has addicted of qualities
and people that don't play golf or lift weights have
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been addicted to these is ruined countless people's lives. But
I think it's directly correlated to what he loves to do,
and that's pumping iron and fucking playing golf, which you
can't have that many surgeries, and lift clearly the amount
that he does, and play golf, which is not a
normal movement on a body that is like duct taped
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together with just a couple of tailand all on Adville.
So I think it's just a sad story. He's led
a chaotic life. I think when it's all said and done,
you know the story of his life is going to
be closer like Elvis or Michael Jackson or something just
outrageous that it is just Tom Brady, you know. So
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it's just yeah, it made me sad, but it also
is what it is. I mean, I just.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
They say basketball is a game of runs. I think
golf is a career of runs. Do you think Scotty
is ending a generational run and will slowly regress speed?
Had one of the best years the game has ever
seen in twenty fifteen and has not come close to
that since. It's a great line. If you look historically
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at the non all time great players, they have a
stretch of a year or two where they pounce. And
Mark o'meira right won the Masters, won the British Open.
I was been looking at joining this club around where
I live, and Tom Lahman is redoing it. The year
he won a major, he also like top two to
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another major and had like a two year career where
he really peaked. Now, guys like Rory or Dustin Johnson
or Kopka can make Bryson Rahm the all time great
players have long careers. I would put Scotty under that.
Jordan kind of took advantage of his twenty fifteen seventeen
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window and since has kind of been average. You know,
Justin Thomas kind of took advantage of two or three years,
three or four years a little longer. Right, But if
you're an all time great player Tiger one in ninety seven,
one again in twenty nineteen, Phil one PJ event in
the nineties, won a major in twenty twenty one, Right,
So those guys can go through lolls. Golf can be
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to me like baseball as a hitter, where you can
just have you know, a hitter can just have an
awful month, like an all time Hall of Famer can
have a month where he bats like one to eighty.
Golf can be like that. You can just have a
couple of years where you send them mud. Rory had
some weird years between, like twenty fourteen and two thousand,
the last couple of years, right, and then you figure
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some out and then you flip it back in to me,
Scotti is much closer to a Tiger of Phil Rory,
or at least what I would imagine his career being then.
Just like you know, Scotty had the craziest three year run. Now,
this might be the best three years of his career,
but I would imagine five years Scotty is still a
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major factor, or in ten years he might go through
some crazy lolls that you know, the great players do
tired it Fiel died, but I would expect like, is
he gonna win twenty majors? No? But is Scotty more
likely to win eight than never win another one? I
would say yes, could be wrong. Golf's really hard. The
competition has never been harder. Like, like you said, you
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can go cold for a while and then you start overthinking.
It started overcompensating. But I don't know. I think I
think Scotty is somewhat of a master of his craft.
And the other thing is he's been winning for a
long period of time. I think when you watch him play,
he's you know, like speech, for example, can be very
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inaccurate off the tea, it's like he just to me,
he's Scotty even when he's a little off, like he
was off of the players, and he's still got top
twenty five, you know, so even when he's off, it's
still not crazy off. It's not like, oh this, guys, fucks,
what is going on here? Which he's gonna have one
of those events where it's just like he missed a cut,
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it's inevitable. But to me, he's under much more control.
Now we'll see. Maybe this week is.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Terrible, but I would bet he's more likely to have
a long, illustrious career than like a short lived four
your window, even if that four year window is the
best golf he ever played.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Right, Tiger won Torrey Pines No. Eight, but the best
year of his career was two thousand. Right started playing
well again four or five years later, and then played
great in twenty eighteen and nineteen. So when you're an
all time great, which I do believe Scotty is, you
can kind of figure it out even through the wolves.
Enjoy the Masters. I will see you guys later. The
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