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August 20, 2024 66 mins
Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Michael L. Thurmond to discuss James Oglethorpe, the founder of the only British American colony that prohibited chattel slavery prior to the Revolutionary War. Oglethorpe should be considered a founding father; so why is he largely forgotten today? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:42 - Who is James Oglethorpe 2:33 - How is James Oglethorp Taught in Georgia Schools? 6:19 - The Known Immorality Around Chattel Slavery 9:18 - Anti-Slavery vs Abolitionist Views 10:49 - How Michael Became Interest in Oglethorpe 14:08 - Digging Deeper 16:08 - What Sources Did Michael Use? 19:03 - What Did The Letter Say!?!? 21:40 - Oglethorpe’s Anti-Slavery Motivations 24:06 - Religiosity and Slavery 30:00 - Dr. Thomas Bray and the Bray Schools 32:55 - John Wesley and the Methodist Church 34:00 - How Did the Legal Status of Slavery Change in Georgia? 38:33 - Oglethorpe’s Legacy, The Lost Cause and the Reaction to the Book 47:05 - They Knew 50:52 - Acknowledging Our Mistakes and Being Better 59:14 - Where You can Find Michael EPISODE LINKS: Micheal L. Thurmond - https://michaelthurmond.net James Oglethorpe, Father of Georgia: A Founder’s Journey from Slave Trader to Abolitionist - https://ugapress.org/book/9780820366043/james-oglethorpe-father-of-georgia/ James E. Oglethorpe - https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Edward-Oglethorpe Abolitionism – https://www.britannica.com/topic/abolitionism-European-and-American-social-movement Georgia history – https://www.britannica.com/place/Georgia-state Cranham Hall – https://digitalcollections.library.gsu.edu/digital/collection/ajc/id/720/ All Saints – https://allsaintschurchcranham.co.uk/history/ Royal African Company – https://transcription.si.edu/project/29682 Ayuba Suleiman Diallo (Job Ben Soloman) – https://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/bluett/summary.html  Anti-slavery and religion – https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african-american-odyssey/abolition.html Bray Schools – https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/associates-of-dr-bray/ John Wesley – https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Wesley Battle of Bloody Marsh – https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/battle-of-bloody-marsh/ Granville Sharp – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Granville-Sharp Olaudah Equiano – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Olaudah-Equiano Hannah More – https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hannah-more-a-woman-of-letters/ The Lost Cause – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Lost-Cause PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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