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February 15, 2024 35 mins

Episode 483 of the "SI Media with Jimmy Traina" podcast is an all-Traina Thoughts post-Super Bowl edition with Sal Licata from WFAN and SNY.Topics discussed include Tony Romo's performance calling the Big Game, the massive confusion about the overtime rules, the halftime show, whether the game should start earlier in the day, the awful injury suffered by the Niners' Dre Greenlaw and whether Kyle Shanahan made the right move by taking the ball in overtime.
Other topics include CBS' outstanding special, "You Are Looking Live," on the history of the "NFL Today" pregame show, whether betting on a game changes the way you watch sports, the latest episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm," the post-NFL season blues, the best type of pretzel and much more

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Traina. Thank you
so much for listening. We have an old Train of
Thoughts edition with Salakata coming up for you figures post
super Bowl, pass on a guest and you know, an
in depth interview like we usually do and just talk
about Super Bowl Sunday and a couple of other things.
It's not just about Super Bowl Sunday, the conversation with

(00:23):
sal We'll get into some other things, but obviously heavy
focus on the super Bowl as we wrap up the
NFL season. A couple of things. I tweeted this, if
you saw it, I asked, you know, give me some
podcast guest suggestions now that the NFL season is over.
A lot of you send in some great suggestions on Twitter,
but I want to ask here, since you guys are
the listeners, if there's anyone you want me to have

(00:43):
on and you know, don't be afraid to go out
of the box, hit me up on Twitter, send me
an email, and send me any guest suggestions you may
have for the pod. Now that we have wrapped up
the NFL season, obviously I'm gonna have some MBA people
on as we get deeper into that season. So you know,
you don't have to say you know Mike Breen or
Jeffany and Gundy or Kevin Harlan. I'll try to have

(01:03):
all those people on, but if you have any other suggestion,
tip me up. All right, before we get to Sal
and the Old Train of Thoughts podcasts, just a reminder
we've had a great run of guests in recent weeks.
If you've missed any of those episodes, I want you
to listen to them. Subscribe to SIMDA with Jimmy Trainer.
Jim Nantz who called the Super Bowl was on last week.
Brian Curtis from The Ringer, Kyle Brandt from Good Morning Football,

(01:25):
Kevin Burkhart and Greg Olsen all recent guests. So go
into the archives. If you missed any of those, give
them a listen. If you're a new listener, check those out, Subscribe,
rate and review. All right, let's get to it, big
conversation about Super Bowl Sunday, all the topics you know,
super overtime, halftime, romo, nance, a bunch of other stuff
and other topics right now with Salakata on SI Media

(01:50):
with Jimmy Tranner. All right, here we go, All Train
of Thoughts Edition with my buddy Salakata from WFA and
Radio and SNYTV in New York. I wanted to just
you know, be able to riff on the Super Bowl,
not do like an interview with a guest this week.
So we'll do a little post super Bowl discussion touch
on some other things with Sal sal how.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Are you good? You mention the text that we exchanged
during the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
We exchanged many texts during the super Bowl, didn't we?
Which one are you specifically referring to?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know which one of them?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
You could say? Well, don't say it, but give me
a hint, Give me a hint, because I don't remember what.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I had to do with Taylor Swis's best friend.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I think Mike Lively. Yes, oh, I know what I said. Yeah,
let's well I'm not yeah yeah. Yeah. Well, So let
me start with this because I was going to bring
this up later, but I'll start with this. I mean,
getting old. It's it's amazing how many bad things there

(02:53):
are about getting old. It's really just horrific. And when
you're younger, you make fun of old people. You think
old people pople don't know what, and it's all like
it's so bad. I had never heard of I wouldn't
know if her if she fell on me, I Spice, Now,
were you familiar with this individual before Sunday?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
You want to know something.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I had heard of her and I don't know why
or how, but I feel like i'd seen her before.
She must have been in some show or something. I
don't I don't know where I saw her. I couldn't
name you a song, but for some reason, I was
aware of who she is.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I had no clue. Blake Lively I knew because I'm
a big fan of I mean, I wasn't a fan
of what was going on the game, but I'm a
big fan of Blake Lively.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
But to be honest with you, until you texted me that,
I had no idea who the fuck she was. And
I know who Blake Lively is, I didn't know that
that was herr. She looked totally different to me, and
I just assumed she was just one of Taylor's friends.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I didn't know that it was Blake.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
White, right, right, right, Yeah, I had never heard of
Ice Spice. Still don't know like what Ice Spice is,
but she's a big deal there the game because I
had a showtailor five thousand times. So the game itself,
everyone seems to have opinions on Romo, nance this, that
the other thing. Were you able to listen and I

(04:15):
know you were with people, Yeah, did you have any
thoughts on the broadcast?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
My one thought was that I felt like, and now,
maybe this isn't accurate and it's just based off of
the stuff that I read, but I felt like the
bosses at CBS newtered Tony Romo all of the comments
that said, like, we don't want him.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
To be as excited. I felt like Tony.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Romo was aware and was was a toned down version
of who he is, which I think is a huge mistake.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I thought he was fine.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I didn't have any issue of the broadcast, but if
you watch Tony Romo regularly, that wasn't him. He was
they conformed. What makes Tony Romo so great his personality.
You don't want that that don't hire the guy, but
that's what he them.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
He was absolutely toned down for the beginning of the game.
I thought we got the regular Tony Romo fourth quarter
and overtime. Now, also, the first half was a complete dud.
I mean I was in the first half. I may
have texted you. I was like, get me to CURB.
I just want to watch Curb. At this point it
was horrible. Then I think half yeah, And I thought

(05:24):
Tony was fine too until the overtime when nobody knew
anything about what was going on in overtime. And it
wasn't just Tony. The fans didn't know what the rules were.
The players didn't know what the rules were. Fowler, Chris
Fowler did the game for ESPN Australia. He didn't know
the rule. Tony didn't know the rules. It's amazing. The
entire season is on the line in one game and

(05:47):
nobody knows the rules with the clock. It's crazy because
at one point Tony said, the Niners win the toss,
they get the ball. Everyone knows mistake. Fine, they go
down the field and they have a third down and
pretty miss a touchdown pass that they would have easily
gotten if Chris Jones didn't get through to mess up Purty,
and Tony starts with, well, that was for the super Bowl.

(06:08):
That was for the super Bowl. It wasn't for the
Super Bowl, Tony, because the Chiefs get the ball. So
it wasn't for the super Bowl because in the regular season.
If you score a touchdown, the game's over, right, the
Niners score a touchdown there this Chiefs still get the ball.
And then he confused everybody saying it's like the end
of the first quarter with the clock. He wasn't it

(06:29):
just it was a lot of confusion, And all you
needed to say was this is the issue of the
NFL has the game clock in overtime is irrelevant and
does not matter. The only thing that matters is the
play clock. The game clock is irrelevant because what's relevant
is each team gets a possession no matter what. So
that's where Fowler exposed himself for not knowing the rule

(06:51):
because what he did on his broadcast was on the
last play, he goes ten seconds, clock is ticking. Chiefs
have two timeouts ten seconds to Does it matter because
if the clock runs out, they're still going to be
able to continue the drive. They just go to the
other end of the field. I think it's crazy in
the Super Bowl. Nobody knows the rules and I'm not
playing me anyone. And I don't know if I knew them.

(07:11):
But you have announcers or don't know them, fans don't
know them. And I tweeted, I bet have to play
as don't know them and the next day all the
Niners said they didn't know the rules.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I when I first saw the graphic go out that
said this is going to be the first overtime with
the new rules, and I was like, no, it's not.
The Falcons and Patriots went into overtime and the Patriots
had to score touchdown to win, and they.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Did on that first possession. I forgot that they changed
the rule. Okay, now I'm somebody you and everyone else yet.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Right, but I totally forgot that they changed that rule
based off of the Tief and Bill's game a couple
of years ago.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Whenever that was.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Then, as the clock is winding down at the end
of overtime, I'm sitting there thinking, huh, I wonder what
happens here? Do they restart another overtime? I didn't know
what the fuck was going on. Why had no clue
and we watched the games all the time. Now they
should have explained it, you're right, but it was.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
It was bizarre. I mean until they finally said.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Which was probably right before that last play, Tom doesn't matter.
I think Tony said Tom doesn't matter here, Jim the
timeouts don't matter, but.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It just goes to a new quarter. So essentially it
was like a first quarter.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
He knew that. Tony knew the time, but confused everyone
with his first quarter analogy. Where he got Where he
did mess up was when he said this is for
the Super Bowl when the Niners had the ball, right,
so you know it was it was rough, But yeah,
I mean, I don't know, and I feel for Nance

(08:36):
and Romo in this situation. It's hard to get into
and explain the rules. When it's overtime in the Super Bowl.
You've got to focus on what's going on in the
field and call it. You know, if this is the
Titans against the Jaguars in overtime in Week six, yeah,
you can sit there and explain the rules and go
in depth. But here you can't get You've got to
call the plays.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
They could have explained it more clearly, I guess before
it got down to that, right, you know, And also
get into the decision, like the decision to take the ball.
I never thought twice about it, like it's taken Bay
and still I still believe that.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I know it's a whole another.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Cut, but do you think the Niners should have taken
the ball.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I do. I do think that for many reasons. But
but like it's that it's the very least.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
It's a talking point that they ignored, like they didn't
talk about that.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So well now I think Tony no Tawny said he
was shocked. Tony said he was surprised that Niners sticked
the ball. He did, they didn't play again, it's like
the rules, they don't have time to get into it.
It was a one line where he said, you know,
you know, why do you think they should have taken
the ball?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Because I still believe as somebody who was rooting now,
I did not have a cent on.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
The game, not a box, not a fantas player, not
a dollar. It was actually enjoyable to watch it in
its purest form. So I and I found myself, even
though I thought the Niners were going to win, I
found myself rooting for the Chiefs. So from a Chiefs backer, now,
I thought the mistake that college anme was kicking the
field goal, Like how stupid can you be? Go for
the touchdown because you know you have to give it
to Mahomes anyway, go for the touchdown. If you don't

(10:04):
get it, you don't get it. But taking a field
goal is not gonna do any good there. So that's
where I disagree with him. But if you take the
ball and you score, all the pressures on them. Yeah,
they get four down to go for it on four down, fine,
But any mistake, a fumble by the checko, a.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Non conversion on a four down and interception, that's it.
Game is over. You're giving it.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
But it works both sides. I mean, if you remember,
on that first play of overtime, it looked like the
Niners were gonna turn it over. There was like a
I don't was it? You know they did that.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
They deserted.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
They had a third and fifteen or something that was
converted on a holding call, right.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yah, yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
But still but if they if the Niners made a mistake, now,
as much as we know, the game likely would have
been over. It's not officially over. You can make a
mistake and still live to play defense and hope that
maybe they missed the field goal.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
You don't know the.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Definite nature of just knowing, like, holy shit, any little
thing that goes wrong here, if you're down three to nothing,
downs nothing, it's over. So I like the idea of
putting the pressure on them. Now, the problem is that Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is the there's no pressure right.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, but it's Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So like in a normal circumstance, I don't think it
would be a big deal taking the ball first, but
with Mahomes it's like.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Anyway, Yeah, yeah, I don't agree, but you know, well.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
All right, well, think about it played out the other way. Chiefs.
You're kicking the ball, you're giving it to Patrick Mahomes.
You're asking to be down seven to nothing, and then
you have.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
To go the length of the field or whatever perfectly
just to get a touchdown to hope to match.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like that's not a good spot to be in either.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, I I think you want to be in the
spot where you know what you have to do, Like
because the Niners kick the field goal there, the Chiefs know,
all right, touchdown we win, that we're playing for a
touchdown here.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
But that also is the mistake kicking the field goal.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I see, I'd rather be up seven nothing with them
having all the pressure on it, then down seven nothing
and me having four downs to go, Like I want
up seven nothing.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Let my defense go to work, let them go to
length to the field to beat me.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Like I like the idea of you kick it off
and then you know, either like you said, they converted
a third and fifteen on a holding penalty, they don't
convert that they got a punch. Now you know, okay,
any score here we win, or you know, okay, they
kick the field goal. All we need to do. Field
goal we tie, the game continues, or a touchdown we win.
I mean, you know, I like knowing what the options are.
That's why I would always kick off there.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Right, But think about if you kick the ball to
Mahomes and they go down, you're likely going to be
down seven nothing.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well then you know what that's you know why that's
good because then when you have the ball and you score,
then you know you better go for two.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I mean, you go for two, you in the game,
you and the super right.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
But also knowing that like any mistake you make, you're done.
So I don't know, I just like the idea of
being up. I'd rather have the pressure on them and
now Mahome is gonna beat you one way or another,
So it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'd rather have the pressure on the opponent. So I
don't think it was that big of a deal.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Taken them all, it takes it takes a lot for
me to like get affected by a sports injury. Like
I don't want to sound callous, but like we're numb
to it. We watch these games every single Sunday. We
see guys get hurt every single Sunday. You have that
reaction like, oh, that's you know, Joe Borrow got hurt,
was you know, torbole and this that the Drake Greenlaw

(13:25):
thing was one of the worst things I've ever seen
in the Super Bowl. Super Bowl blows out his achilles
sprinting onto the field after a kickoff. I was rattled
for five minutes. I felt so bad for that guy, terrible.
I couldn't but I just I had like a reaction
like this is horrific. Nice job. I give a CBS credit.

(13:48):
They had the which you know, they had the video
coming out of the commercial. It was just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
You can't even say like, oh, well, you know what,
that's the nature of the beast. That's a sport, right,
That's just like what do you chalk that up to?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Right? Like at least when I town Rodgers, he was running,
he was getting chased for a sec. This guy's running
on the field after a kickoff.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, brutal.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
It was horrible, horrible, any other you know, usher, any thoughts.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I thought it was a horrible over halftime show.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Here's you coming out with all it takes.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, I mean I don't like I like osher, I
like the music.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I was bored by that halftime show, so it was
stupid again. I love Alicia Keys, I love Ostri. Don't
get me wrong, I was not. I couldn't believe the
people like, oh my god, this is.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
The greatest halftime show ever, Like.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Come on.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
My biggest issue and this really shows that I'm getting
old and I understand that, but at least I'm aware
of it, like they got us. There's no reason why
the game should start as late as it does. They
got to start it earlier.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
You can't have the game anything right.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I disagree. Eleven o'clock is fine. There's no watch it.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Who'd you watch it with?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
By myself? I can't watch. I have to listen. I
My most important column of the year every year is
the Monday after the Super Bowl, because I review the
broadcast is and I'm not trying to like do the
dog thing like that dog had that rant, but like
I can't. It kills me because my buddy Dave Lionettie
has a Super Bowl party every year. I used to
go to it every year. All my friends are there,

(15:15):
and I had once I started doing the media thing,
I had to stop going because I have to listen
to every word Nance and Romo are saying understood to
write about it, and I'm taking notes during the game understood.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
But you're in the minority obviously, right right right. Majority
of people are going to parties. They have work the
next day, and they have kids, like my niece and
nephew were over, and like, if you're trying to grow
the game, you know, Goodell cares about growing the game
in Brazil, Brazil and Germany more than he does here.
Because if you have kids that you want to be
into it, don't you want them to see the end
of this great game?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
No, I get that, But the issue is the game
until overtime. The game doesn't go to overtime attending it,
you know, ten.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Fifteen, Yeah, it's still too late anyway, But let me
ask you something seriously, it's the Super Bowl. Millions and
millions of people are gonna be watching it anyway, what's
the hormans already need at five thirty or five o'clock.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Because here's the crazy thing about this, The ratings are
highest the later it goes.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It was at its peak at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Probably, yeah, yeah, I mean, it always change it.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
They're never They're never going to change it. But the
very least that they should have the next day.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Be off, they're good. Yeah. I mean that's a whole
other issue. There's people say played on Saturday, the people
say play it on President's Day weekend. I mean, there
are solutions, but you know, I to me, I trucked
it up to the game went to overtime, and that's
why it ended so late. I was pissed at this curb.

(16:42):
Did you watch any of the pregame?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Minimal couldn't, couldn't tell you anything about it.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I I didn't see the pregame, but I will say
I did see it. At one o'clock. They had that
show on the NFL today called You Were Looking Live.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I cannot recommend it enough. It was so freaking good.
Now for some reason, Okay, here's the cherry on top
of the goddamn Sunday. So, for some reason, in this
streaming world where everyone likes to tell me all the time,
streaming is the future stream year old who has cable,

(17:20):
You're a loser. Fuck you with cable streaming streaming. It's
not on Paramount Plus. Explain that to me.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
So how can I watch it? If I missed it?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's going to be on CBS Sports Network Friday at
either five or six o'clock. I forgot. It's either five
pm or six pm on Friday.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
So why okay? Why? Why is it on demand somewhere?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I don't know, but it's not on Paramount Plus, so
I would imagine it's probably not on demand. What are
you doing? Sanitizer?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, she's from the stupid makeup. I was just wearing.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Sal Salve did his radio show today just as Joint
the Clown WWE superstar Dooink the Clown, and he just
ended the show, took off his makeup and did this,
and now I see him playing with a hand sanitizer.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
But yeah, we lost our football bets. That was the risk.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
That's why I don't game anymore. I lost my shirt
this year, not only financially, but my dignity as well
as I'm dressing up as a dooint the fucking clown
suit to do his.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Show, dignity is in half. His bed is listening to
your shirt, That's for sure. I lost a five leg
parlay last night because I needed Bradley Beal to get
fifteen points and he blought his hamstring in the first quarter.
That's all I gotta say about that. But anyway, you
are looking live. It's on CBS Sports Network, friate. It's
either five or six o'clock. Check it. I can't tell

(18:49):
you how good it was. Brett Mussberger, the Jimmy the
Greek stuff. There is an amazing piece of footage of
Bill Parcells giving Jimmy the Green a pep talk after
he got fired for the racial comments. I cannot stress
this enough. You got a DVR, okay?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh, I definitely want to watch it. The problem is
I wish they could just watch it on demand somewhere.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Here's here's let me go and reverse now to I know.
I was checking Paramount Plus It's not there. I emailed CBS,
let me go backwards? Though about you talking about starting
the game earlier. Most watched super Bowl of all time
one hundred and twenty three point four million people one
hundred and fifteen point one watched last year super Bowl.

(19:35):
So more than eight more eight million more people watched
this year's Super Bowl than last years. Now, obviously you
have overtime in Taylor Swift, but that's why the NFL
is never going to make the change the time of
the game.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Right, But hasn't always been this time? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's always been this time?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
But what But I mean, what's the hormone plays? The
numbers have gone up, so they always have him been great,
They've gone up consistently. I still don't understand the.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Home because if Roger, this is what Roger Goodell would
say to you, we just had one hundred and twenty
three million people watching Super Bowl. It's the most watched
super Bowl of all time. Why would I change what
time it starts? Right?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Right? No? Well, how about this.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I got an idea for you, Goodell. Why don't you
play the Super Bowl in Germany in a couple of
years and see how that works. Forget New Orleans or
Miami or Vegas. Go play it in Brazil and then
maybe people will be into it.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Honestly, I'm so sick of the NFL, knowing that they
have everybody. But then I see my young nephew who
loves mahomes, who can't stay up for the game.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
He's passed out at ten thirty. But he doesn't matter
because he doesn't have any money. But the people in
Brazil and Germany do.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, how old your nephew ten? In about five years,
when he discovers DraftKings, he'll stay up for the game.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Hear it, right, I'm gonna tell and teach him not
to stay away from the sports stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Goodell, what doesn't care about you? You don't care about him?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
How is the no betting going?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Actually, well, I didn't think I was gonna be.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Did you miss it at all on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
So the last game that I actually bet on, like
individually bet on was.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
What I know that I knew that night. I know
that night very well.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
That Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
So it was very difficult for me the next day
because the next day was the two games Sunday I
think was Packers and Cowboys was one of them. And
then the following week got a little bit easier, and
then I like it got easier as I have gone on,
and then even to me like my go I don't
want to bet.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
But at the Super Bowl and I was talking with
some of my friends, should we do like a prop
thing or whatever? And then I didn't and it was great.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
No boxes, no nothing, and I got to watch the
game in its purest form.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You don't realize how much it us your view of
a game when you're rooting for Deebo Samuel to go
over the rushing yards or Travis Kelsey to get five
catches or whatever. Like I know why people do it,
and I understand it, but leave me. But it also
skews the way you watch the game.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
One thousand.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
You're so reformed already.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm just telling you that.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
I I mean, I grew up loving football, not because
I was betting on the games, because I love the
sport and I watched the games, you know, rooting for
my team or whatever.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's we've gotten so far away from that.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
It's you have speak for yourself.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, No, I.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Think that a lot of people have gotten away from
it with I mean, come on, whether it's fantasy, whether
it's boxes. Oh you know, I need them to make
this extra point so I can have my um, you know,
six in the pool. Like it just changes everything. So
I'm glad. I enjoyed it, and there was aggravation free.
I didn't get pissed off that the Niners blew the
cover or lost the game. I didn't get bothered by
the missfield or the missed extra point, none of it bothered.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I had the chief, So I got annoyed at, you know,
the fumble on the Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
The majority of the game, the majority.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I can still watch and analyze the game, but I
do What I do think is happening is I mean, listen,
you have the people like you who you're saying that
the gambling skews how you watch the game. I think
there are people like me who use the gambling as
an enhancer. But I think I think I'd still focus

(23:17):
and lock in on analyze the game while I'm betting it.
But I think what's happening now is I think you
have not a little I think you have tons of
people who just watch the game because they're betting.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
It, right, and and aren't watching it for the game right,
because they don't bet a side. They're watching it till
Kelsey goes over his yards or whatever.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
That's fine, and they're allowed to do that.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, And I'm not saying I would never bet on
a game, and I'm not saying that I look down
on that, but I am saying that I got caught
up in the fantasy aspect of it, in the gambling
aspect of it, and I don't think I was gonna
be able to get out from that. And I did,
and it was enjoyable to watch that game without any
action on.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
So next week, I mean week next season, week one,
will you bet the NFL or you're done for good?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Well, like I said, I don't think I'm ever You know,
you do it though in a way where it's healthy.
I do it in a way where it's unhealthy. So
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
My way of gambling from now.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I'm like, if we were to get together and watch games,
I want to treat it like.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It used to be.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
If you go to Vegas, like you used to not
be able to bet sports for the most part, obviously,
and unless you went to Vegas or you go away,
you know, and then then you're there and you bet
certain things. I want to treat it like that if
I'm away with my friends for a weekend, or you
and I are hanging out and we're watching the games together,
then maybe I throw some money on it to enhance
the viewing a little bit.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's what I'll tell you. I do that now for
March madness. So I don't watch one second of college
basketball during the regular season. I just it fell by
the wayside. I think the games are atrocious. I think
the quality of the game is beyond awful. And I'm
not watching college basketball when the nf fell and the
NBA are going on, just not happening. But every March

(25:05):
I meet my buddy Diesel, and I bet every game,
so and then I'm done after those two days. So
I do. I haven't done boxes in probably like fifteen years.
I do miss the boxes sometimes, you know, I get
a little I'm like, eh, the boxes are fun, but
I never do The Bowl Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, but I don't want to bet the.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Boxes because I'm rooting for my regular wagers, So I
don't want to. I don't want That's why I give
up fantasy football. I don't want the conflicts.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Bingo.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
That's exactly right. And a lot of people and I
know myself included. I used to have it all, like
doing doing fantasy, and I still do a fantasy team
and I might still do that. But fantasy straight bad.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Super Bowl? You do the boxes. It's too much.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
What did you eat during the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Not? Well not?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I don't know to know. I don't want to know
what was there. I want to know what you ate.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I a a lot of chips and dip, I a
wings I ate.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
And an M's cargol the football cake cargo football game
with crunchies.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Gotta have the crunchies.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I did have a slice of pizza.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
What an animal?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, dude, No, I was what about you? Do you
have a normal meal or do you treat yourselves? No?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
No, I had? Uh what did I do? I had
Chinese food before the game started. I had Chinese food
before the games, and then during the game, I had
some Okay, so we talked about the best potato chips
a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I had one thing
during the game that I snacked on. The single best
pretzel on the market is the Utz pretzel stick Pretzel rods.

(26:45):
Pretzel rods, I mean just loaded with like eighty seven
pounds of salt, I'm still like bloaded from it, but
those are the best. I like a Rolls Gold, I
like a Rolls Gold, but the Utz Pretzel rods are
the single best pressill on the market.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm not a big pretzel guy. Certain spots.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yes, I don't know why I had I think, I
think I I don't know why I ate those, but
that's what I decided to eat that. Did you watch Curb?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I did. I watched it last night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Okay, so there's gonna be Curb spoilers here if you
haven't watched it for this week. So this might be
the time where you want to go to Apple leave
a five star review, right, Jimmy's a great host, love
the podcast, and then check out because there's gonna be
spoilers coming. I tweeted this and I'm still trying to
figure out how I feel like, is it totally genius

(27:40):
that Larry is recreating this whole season to replicate the
Seinfeld finale or is it like there's part of me
that's like, wow, Larry is so bitter that everyone hated
the season the Seinfeld finale, which I actually liked. I'm like,
in the one percent of people liked it and it's like,
should he let it go by now? But he's literally

(28:02):
recreating the finale of Seinfeld for this entire Curbs. It's
it's part of it is like it's genius. But I
don't know, what do you feel.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
I'm enjoying it so far. I'm not thinking too much
about it. I do think I actually like the symmetry
between the two. I mean obviously he you know, created
that show as well, so I I am enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I hope there is a Seinfeld tie into it.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'm trying to think of the one scene there were
I mean obviously there were so many, but there was.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
One that I was just, well, Larry has to use
the bathroom in the store, but he didn't buy something.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Right, Oh yeah, that was it where he was he
was spraying, oh God, trying to like get that air
out there, dude.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
The whole thing was that was good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
And then Susie doesn't want Jeff working on her birthday,
right yeah, which was good.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
The one jockey stuff I thought that didn't I didn't
really care for that. You know, he was out of
trying to go for the Giuliani. Now, you don't pay
attention to politics in any way, shape or form. Did
you understand the Giuliani thing and what was going on
with the hair? No, oh, you didn't see. You didn't
even get that. There was a famous press conference a

(29:16):
couple of years ago where Rudy Giuliani's face started melting.
The just for men that was in his hair was
melting all over his face while he was giving this
press confidence about how like the election was rigged or something,
or the voting boots, the voting machines were rigged. So
that's what he was spoofing.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Man, Okay, yeah, I did not get that.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah I didn't think you did. But yeah, I'm curious.
You know, I want to see if they're gonna you know,
in the Scipho finale, they brought back every sort of cameo.
I wonder if they're going to do that here. So
I like that, Yeah, what else? What else? What else?

(30:04):
I mean, It's like, I get so like, I feel
lost right now that football is over. I feel lost.
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I mean, I got so much stuff going on, so
I don't know, I'll probably enjoy.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Not having it there. But it is weird. It's always
it's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's a weird feeling.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, and it really hits me after Championship Sunday. So
by the end of the Super Bowl, IM kind of
used to it. But it is bizarre to think, like,
oh my god, I have nothing to do on Sundays
now until September.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Like it's crazy for.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Spreads, well base pitchers and catches will report, March Madness
will happen, wrestle Mania will happen. I mean, the rock
is a heel. It's insane that Bullingham Rocky sucks. It's unbelievable.
What So last week you said you found a house.
I heard you on your radio show today talking about
how stressed you are. So I hope there are no

(31:00):
new developments.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
No, nothing negative.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
It's now just like oh shit, Like you know, we
had to have inspections and all that is good so far,
and then we have to go set up like we
want some work to be done, but like it just
doesn't end, whether it's floors, paint, contractor like all these
different appointments to go there and then have all them

(31:23):
come in and give an us of it and then
do it again with different people like it's overwhelming, and
then thinking about the move.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
So that's what I'm in the middle of.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Now do we still have a target date for the move?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
As a matter of fact, I gotta figure that out
because we should have a closing.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
The closing date is supposed to be end of February.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
We're around there, and then the plan would have been
to move in a couple of weeks after that, so
some work could get done. But I don't know because
I got to talk to these people and see when
they're available to do the work, and I would say
we'll probably close on the house end of February early March,
probably move in third week or fourth week in March.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
You seem overwhelmed.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
It's a lot, yeah, on top of work and other
stuff going on, Like it's just.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, right, there was one of the things I was
gonna bring. Oh, it was funny. I went on Twitter.
I guess it was Monday, I think, and I said,
you know, football's over, who would you like me to
have on the podcast? Because during the football season I
go NFL heavy. I like to get all the play
by play guys on all the annualst song you know
we have on Nance and Bunk and Greg Holsten and Burcott.

(32:31):
And someone said, and I said, who should have On
the podcast, someone said Sal's real estate agent. So if
sal If Sal's target is to move at the end
of March, we can still milk this thing for like
another six weeks.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Oh god, they probably for you. The best For me,
the worst part is yet to colm the move.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Oh yeah, packing, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh my god, dude, we gotta pa.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
It's like I tell my wife, I'm like, you realize
that we actually have to start, you know, like guests
are doing some stuff here, right, we got start packing.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
We're gonna move. Like there's the definitive.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't know when it is, but it's coming in March.
So like we gotta get going.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
So that's what the actual move, which is a bitch,
an absolute bitch. Then when you move, we'll have the
internet's not working, the cable's not working, the neighbor wants
to become friends with you. Wait, no, what if the
neighbors know you from the fan? No, baby, yes, I'm
talking that's the guy from f An, then he's gonna

(33:36):
come over. So the Mets, what do you think the
Mets are gonna do?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I am
not talking to any neighbors. I want to be left alone.
That's a big reason why we're moving.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
You know what I was telling I was really stressed
out because I'm like, man, we got to close down
the stuff at one house, like the cable.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
The electric, all right, and then get it ramp back.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I don't even know what they have available in the
new house. Could it be Verizon? Is it Optimum? So
I don't know, so that stressing me out.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Ye have Verizon? Verizon FiOS is so good?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Can I know you have it? I've been wanting that
for a while, but it wasn't an option. I hope
it is.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Uh. The cars, because we're going from New York to Jersey,
all that might have to be redone, which I don't
want to do.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'll ride it out from New York license place. I
don't care I get ticket it or something I can't
deal with.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I just hope all the people on your block are
big w FA and listeners.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
No, nope, they won't even see.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Me popping in. How you doing, Sal in the car?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Go to work?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
You believe the Mets? You blue? You believe the Mets blue?
That game last night? Sal?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Oh yeah no, that's great.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, all right, we'll milk this thing. For a lot longer.
That's the bottom line, all right, sal appreciate you coming on,
and uh hang in there with the stress. Don't get
too stressed out. I will see you all right. My
thanks to Salakata and uh make sure you are subscribing

(34:56):
to SI Media Jimmy trainor if you're not a subscriber,
hit that subscribe button, and if you missed any recent episodes,
check him out in the archives. Jim Nantz was on
the podcast last week. Brian Curtis from The Ringer, Kyle
Brandt from Good Morning Football, Kevin Burkhark, Wriggolson all recent guests.
So if you missed any of those interviews, check him out,
subscribe to the pod, leave a review on Apple. All right,

(35:17):
we'll see you next week. Stay safe and take care.
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