April 4, 2024 • 50 mins
Episode 488 of "SI Media with Jimmy Traina" features a conversation with SiriusXM radio host, "First Take" contributor and Radio Hall of Famer, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo.
Topics discussed with Russo include the Shohei Ohtani gambling story, whether sports is headed for a major gambling scandal, MLB continuing its awful deal with AppleTV+, CBS' impressive depth when it comes to NCAA Tournament broadcasters and AppleTV+'s series on the New England Patriots. Russo also has a special shoutout for his former radio partner, Mike Francesa.
Russo also discusses re-signing with "First Take" for two more years, his contact status with SiriusXM and why he feels rejuvenated when it comes to his MLB Network show, "High Heat."
The podcast finishes with a discussion about Bruce Springsteen's cameo on "Curb. Your Enthusiasm and Russo's various problems with technology.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Trayina. Thank you
so much for listening, especially this one. Appreciate you guys
hanging in there. We missed a show last week. Was
not ideal, out of my hands thought. Actually the hiatus
here for s IM Media's Jimmy Training might be a
little bit longer. But we are up and running. Only
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missed one show, and I need to thank some people
for that. SI Management Minute Media Management, SI's new operator.
We're phenomenal and working hard to be able to get
this podcast up this week. My producer Shelby who's not
here this week, he'll be back in a couple of weeks,
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and some new colleagues Hunter Armor. Can't thank all these
people enough because this would not have happened if a
lot of people didn't do a lot of work that
it need to do. I don't want to get into
what's been going on with SI because it's so convoluted
and drun out. Most of what you read about the
old operators of SI are true, so you can google
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it if you want. But we've transitioned to a new
operator and it's been a miracle. We're able to just
get up and running and we only missed one show,
So I thank all those people again, SI Management, Minute,
Media Management, Hunter Armour. All you guys were sticking by
me when I said there wouldn't be a podcast last week.
The support was overwhelming, heard from so many people. Was
(01:28):
pretty blown away by it. So I can't thank you
guys enough. And we're here. We're not going anywhere. We're
rolling SI. The magazine Sports Illustrated is still going. The
website SI dot com, bookmarket, our social channels are alive,
the podcast is alive, and we have a sort of
a new lease on life that's I'm really looking forward to.
(01:50):
So whatever you've read about SI, don't believe it. We're here,
We're not dead. We roll on. This podcast rolls on,
and I out here this week because we had some
issues just we have to get him on board, and
I wanted to do this one solo, just to get
it under the belt. Like I said, we've got a
lot of people working here who don't really need to
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be working on the pod doing me a favor, so
I wanted to make it easy for them, and I
figured i'd reward everyone with an appearance from the Great
Christopher mad Dog Russo from Serious XM and first take.
So it'll be me and Doggie on this podcast. Sal
will be back hopefully next week. And we are here
(02:33):
after one week off business as usual, and I cannot
thank you guys enough for all of the support and
messages over the past couple of weeks. And that's enough
about all that. Let's do what we do SI Media
Podcast with Jimmy Treyna all right here, right now, with
Christopher mad Dog Russo all right joining me now. I
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have had to have an a list special up notch
guest for the first show back after a very brief
hiatus for the SI Media Podcast, So I called on
the Doggie.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's great to be here, Jimmy. I thought that Bucking
Aikman could be a good possibility. I also thought for you,
Iron Eagle would be good if he wasn't traveling. I
know you love Iron and he's got his first.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Final four, So no, I wanted the Doggie.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I appreciate that and anything for my fifth child and
my fourth son. As I've told you a thousand times,
I agree this podcast now back raring to go daily.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Back way, what do we have here? Back raring to
go like nothing's happened. It was all stuff above me, management, ownership,
operation stuff. We had a different operator. We have a
new operator. The new operators outstanding. The old operator is gone.
They didn't make the transition easy. That's why we were
down for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Hollow we How long are you down for?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I missed one podcast episode last week, and let me
tell you, you killed me. I had an I had Jeff
Passing booked, and I had one of the WWE people,
Paul Hayman, book because wrestled Manias this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And Hayman's a big spot. I know we did that
yesterday on the first take.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yes, yes, So I had to cancel both of those
guys because I couldn't do a show shows last week.
My column's been down for about two weeks. Came back.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh but it's too bad. So you've had some Now
you're back in the mix. We need to have you there.
You're very important. I read all of that side the
Baseball issue, very good story on the bucks by Chris Mannix.
I'm going to read the article on the ACC commissioner.
I'm looking forward to what's the Phillips, whatever his name is,
YE looking for that. And I've been reading you know
(04:40):
how much I read side even in this deleted one
month thing, I'm still on top.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Of it, and the magazine is still alive. Everything's still
everything's alive, the website, the podcasts were good to go,
and uh, I think we're going to be doing really
well here with this with our new operators.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So oh that's important. Now, how you doing otherwise?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You've been good, I've been good. So yeah, I mean, listen,
it's funny that I wasn't gonna bring this up, but
I'm just thinking about it. I have to say, two
weeks where I couldn't write a column, do a podcast
when you're used to getting your opinions out there. Oh gosh,
that's rough. I mean, that's right. The tournament started, this
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will happen. The first day of the NCAA tournament basically
was the first day I got shut down.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So sixteenth, Yeah, that's a big day. I felt a
little the same way here when I was off the
baseball you know, when they had a few big issues
in baseball. You know, you're trained to want to have
as you said, you hit it right ahead platforms. You
got a platform here. You want to say something, and
you know, I have no place to say it. You know,
I go to Anguela, I got nine days. I'm in
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the middle of the Caribbean Ocean, and as a result,
I don't have anybody sitting there listening to what I
have to say. So I do understand that it is
an adjustment. You and I one day are going to
have to deal with that because one of these years
they're not gonna want us. You want to deal with
it in a busy time with the year, and in
two week period. You know, baseball is right around the corner.
(06:08):
You got the NC Double A, you got golf, you
got the TPS, you got things happening, and you can't talk.
That would drive me great.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
That I was one of the things that pissed me
up the most was I couldn't bash baseball for the
atrocious setup for opening Day, playing games a week and
a half beforehand.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, I don't like that either.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And the Yankees went on Opening Day, I'll get all
fired up, Soto, I'm all pumped up. The next day
is that Friday night, you have two you have two
tournament games, Yankees, let me do three straight hours of
flipping around. Just want to flip around for three hours?
And they're on goddamn Apple TV.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we've discussed issue and I
and that maybe your boycott those games on the Apple TV.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I don't watch them on Apple TV. I will not
let to go look too.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You know, the Dodgers play the Yankees this year at
Yankee Stadium. It's a week series Friday night Apple TV,
and that's gonna be who it's in the middle of
the summer. I mean, Yankees and Dodgers at Yankee Stadium
with Oltani, Betts and Freeman on a Friday night. I
believe it's when Cole would return. And in fact it's good.
(07:19):
Jovis crazy, you know. And here's what sick with it
and not be able to switch anywhere else or just say,
you know what, my little boycott little.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But that Friday night's perfect with two tournament games and
the Yankees just flip, you know, flip.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, And that was the first day of the tournament Tuesday.
You're in good shape. No, it was last weekend. So
I was sweet sixteen. Yeah, perfect, right, perfect, perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And here's what kills me about it. I love baseball,
and nobody loves baseball more than you. There is not
a human being on the face of the ear that
loves baseball more than you, and they do this to us.
You know, I feel like, maybe I don't know, maybe
I'm wrong. I feel like baseball almost thinks, Okay, well,
the NFL does this, the NBA does this, so we
have to No, you don't. Don't just because youfl's doing it,
(08:01):
you don't have to do it. This whole thing with
the streaming, the NFL can do whatever they want. There
is They could put a game on it three in
the morning and make you have to put tinfoil over
your TV to watch, and you're gonna do it. The NFL,
every game means something. There's only sixteen regular season games
every I can easily blow off the second MLB game
of the season.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And I don't know why baseball doesn't understand this.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What they get five and ninety five million for seven
years is that?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah? No, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, I don't know what the eppisode sevenion about. It
buy seven So they get about basically ninety million a year.
That makes about sense. That's about right, right, And so
ninety adds three million dollars per team. I you're the
one who told me no longer on Peacock, So the
peacock thing is out. Uh yeah, I don't like it either.
I'm with you. I hate the NFL first game of
the year with the Eagles being down in South pallow
(08:52):
That drives me crazy too. And I don't like the
Amazon on the Prime the playoff game on Amazon with that,
But as you said, you will put up with it
because obviously it's football. You only play seventeen or eighteen games,
so when you miss a baseball game out of one
sixty two, it's not a big deal. You miss a
(09:13):
football game out of sixteen seventeen, it feels like I'm
much just like missing ten baseball games. So it does
ball there. So I understand your point. I get it.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Let me let me go to this here with baseball,
since we're on it Otani. I don't even want to
get into Otani specifically, because I don't think he bet
on baseball, and if he's bet on other sports, they
don't really care. But what Otani did. And then a
few days later we had the story about the NBA
guy who they thought maybe was involved with some prop
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bet stuff. Are we are we headed for something really
really bad in the gambling legalization here? I mean, listen,
I don't care. I have a very selfish attitude about this.
My attitude is I like to bet, Let me bet,
leave me alone. I don't care what happens. I'm being honest.
That's how I feel. And I know people want to
(10:03):
do doom and gloom. I really don't care. It doesn't
bother me. But it does feel like we are headed
for something bad here.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, I think the issue is it's not so much
the athletes themselves. They make so much money the athlete.
The issue might be these hanger ons, you know in
this case. I mean, it isn't true. I don't believe
that the translator in Otani's case stole his passwords and
wired four and a half million dollars of money to
the bookie without Otiy knowing about it. So I think
(10:31):
that's a bunch of nonsense. But you know, the fact
that a guy was able to get in that kind
of hot water that's eliminate the amount would make you think, well, geez,
I've lost all these other sports. The one thing I
can get a little help with was the baseball. Let
me ask Otani if his starting pitcher's got a sore
arm or not. So I think it really has more
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to do with the periphery than it does with the
big star, because I guess the baseball or the football
with all the hangers on, you know, you with injuries
in football, that maybe some information gets passed from a
guy making bets because he's got some info on the
left tackle who can't play this week, he's on one leg,
you know that, who's not properly listed on the injury report.
(11:14):
You know, it's that kind of thing. So I think
it's more of Jimmy, the people who are around the
game and part of the andolages of these athletes than
it is per se with the athletes. I did not
follow the NBA case too well. I don't know that
much about Porter. I know I'm with you one thousand percent.
No way Otani bet on the baseball. I agree, now,
(11:34):
I do think it was his bets. I don't think
that Otani. I don't think this guy, no bookie in
America is gonna let some guy make him two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars a year get four and a
half million dollars in debt. That is not gonna happen.
It's a big bookie in Southern California. A guy calls
him up to make bets and gets five million in
a hole. He's not gonna wonder what's going on and
look to collect unless he knows that the kid is
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booked backed by somebody. So that is where I don't
pay any ten of the old tiny camp. Well, this
is grand theft. That's a bunch of nonsense. But I
do think and I don't think Otani was betting on
baseball inwo thousand percent. I think ALTONI was helping a friend,
And you can make an argument there. That's a nice gesture.
Guys in debt show, Hey I need help. He's not happy,
all right, Yeah, what's five mall of him? He's worth billions.
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He gives the five million up, So I think that's
what that's about. But I think it's the periphery guy
Jimmy that they're concerned about.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So I think I agree with you. I wonder the
one area I might worry about is a ref for
an ump.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I think that's what we saw Donaghee at the NBA
Tim Donagh. Yeah, players are not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It was gonna make the too much to lose, and
they're making too much money. How much money can you make?
Why would a player making ten million dollars a year
better fifteen hundred unless he's just having fun, But fifteen
hundred on the Angels, he wouldn't do it. He'd be stupid.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Like you know, it was so firm, right, there's nothing
wrong with what Calvin Ridley did. I totally, totally yeah.
You know I was a bad host because I was
all fired up. You came out. I didn't mention the
dog is on Serious XM Monday through Friday three to six.
He's got high heat on the MLB network every day
at eleven am. He's got First Take, which we got
(13:14):
to get into once a week. So let me get
all those plugs in now, I know. Now wait, let
me see. I'm gonna let me see if I can
get them here. I know I wasn't happy you gave
some news to someone else that you resigned it first Take.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, I gave some news because that was Mike McCarthy, right,
And he came up to me at the super Bowl
on that Thursday and he just asked me and I
just bluttered it out. That was not okay. Let me
give this to Mike McCarthy instead of my fifth son.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was how many? How many years did you resign for?
With it?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
With I'll give you too.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Now, what's going on with serious XM because you've been
talking for months about what we're going to do here?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Well, you know, I got it. Speaking of which I
got a a half to a minute. I got a
little respite with the MLB because remember there was no
MLB High Heat Show from December twenty second until March
twenty fifth. So I've done that show for ten years.
That is the first time in the ten that I
did not do the show on a wintertime. Did you
(14:18):
know that I have done that show? You knew that
you not everybody knows what you do. I have done
that show. You know. I was contracted to do two
hundred and twenty shows a year, so I did that
show every day essentially in the wintertime. You know I
was off maybe hot holidays, but took a week off.
But I did that show on the winter time. This
is the first year that I know they didn't pay me,
(14:39):
but this is the first year when I didn't do it.
So as result, it gave me a little break. As
you said, I missed it at times but I didn't
have to work first thing in the morning. I only
had the radio show at three o'clock in the afternoon
once a week, going to the city for a first take.
So you'd be amazed when you set up to do
the you know, because if it's eleven, I am. I
(15:00):
gotta get up at seven o'clock. I got a meeting
at eight o'clock. I gotta get the hair done, and
I gotta do this to paint. I gotta talk to Alana,
make sure you're on the same pin. That kind of stuff.
I'd have to do that for three months, so it
actually gave me a little bit of a respite. Now
that it's back. In the first two weeks, I've been
really into it, So hopefully that will maintain itself throughout
the course of the year. As far as the serious
(15:20):
thing is concerned, I don't really have a lot to
tell you. Contract is. You know, it's up sometime in
late in the summer, and I would think we'd meet
some sort of understanding, but I can't say that those
discussions have taken place as we speak. So you know,
whether it's five months away, yeah, Serious usually waits a
(15:41):
while before they renew things. So we shall see.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I thought it was up way sooner than that. From
the way you were talking.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I think it's August. I don't even know what I
don't even know the date. That tell you how lost
I am. I don't even know the date. And I
know when I did the first take. I did an
extra year. It's serious. I think I told you this
because you know they were Christian. We're giving let you
do first take. What are you gonna give us? So
I gave you an extra year? Well that year is
now up or so. I'm not exactly sure where we
(16:09):
I would be shocked if something did not work out
with serious, But you know it's a negotiation. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, just make sure you're back.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
On the radio.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But this, but the first take thing is an easy one.
How do I know? It's two years I lived. I
gotta do it. I gotta do and they're good to me.
You know, it is good to me, and the ESPN's
good to me, So I do it.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I felt like there was a rocky star few but
I feel like all those guys now they get you.
Orlowski read I had the rocky star.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, I had a rocky star. JA with JJ with Redick.
As you know, where I said something I should have used.
I should have used better words to explain what I
was trying to say about Raymond Green. Uh. He labeled it,
which gets me in trouble. Uh And as a result,
I got killed for two or three days. Uh. So
I learned to be careful of how to say what
(17:01):
I'm trying to say and do it in a quote
unquote diplomatic way. But outside of that hiccup, which is
two years ago now and my wife was upsets is Chris,
I told you not to do this stupid show. But
you know, I said, honey, I understand, I gotta do
a better job of it. So since then, it's been
a home run. And there's no argument they've been great
to me. I can't make any He's been great to me.
(17:23):
So from that standpoint, I like going the We're the
worst part about it is to commute. It's a pain
in the neck to get the Lower Manhattan on a
Wednesday morning at seven o'clock. Other than that, I you know,
I love that it's fun. He's fun. I liked it's
better when he's there, when he's on the remote in
La because he's got so much to do with the
(17:44):
NBA Countdown and all the other you know, he plays
the brick in General Hospital and all that. So when
he's got to go to LA for those other things
and he has to get up at four o'clock in
the morning to do the show, he has to meeting
at four point thirty. Then he's got to be ready
to go at seven. When he's on the West Coast
and he's on the monitor, it's harder. It's harder. I'm
(18:06):
sitting here with Molly and I'm trying to get something
out of him. It's harder when he's in New York.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's great you're not in the social media world, but
I know you hear about it from Eddie, from me,
from probably your son Colin. You get everyone gives you
the information of what's going on. Are you even a
little surprised how every single week something you say makes news,
makes headlines, gets picked up.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, I mean, I asked Ketty on Wednesday, feed the pig, Eddie,
find me some stuff, find me some stuff on you know,
on Twitter. You know, after I did the madabouts is
that's you know so, and Shack's mad at me now
because of the ranking of the centers and everything. Oh yeah,
I'm aware of it. I don't I don't search for
it myself, but but but I am aware of it.
(18:55):
You know, I think I think there's a couple of
things with it. Number one, you know, I don't know.
You know, the MLB network is a niche audience, Sirius XM.
You know, it's radio. It's a different medium. In twenty
twenty four, they hear the radio on the snippets. So
I don't know how many people out there outside of
my loyal fandom is sitting here listening to three hours,
(19:16):
but they watch First Take. Number one. First Take has
a unbelievable media for social media presence. They get it.
If you get in that washing machine of ESPN, they
get it out. It's on your app, it's here, it's there.
If you say something that they think can get clicks,
they're gonna get it out there. The other avenues or
(19:38):
the other issues that I work, they don't have the manpower,
the wherewithal, whatever the case to get those clicks. ESPN
Canna on ESPN and I think it's goofy and people
are gonna get into it. I know that ESPN is
going to get that out there, and that's where these
clicks come from.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
The shacked Shack said he was going to kick your ass, right,
Shack's man.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I haven't ever spoken to Shack. I've had him
on the air a couple of times on Fan, but
I've never had him on these man, because he's made
it two things. One in the centers, I put Moses
malonea ahead of him all time. And then two, I wondered,
on first take, this is both first take. Well, I
did it on that serious, but I did it on
first take, which he's where I probably heard about it.
(20:23):
I did it on first take, and on first take,
I said, what are the Orlando Magic doing? He left
after four years. They didn't want a championship. They retired
his number and that probably got back to him too,
which also annoyed him. So he got the back to
back with Shaq that that got him ticked off. I'll
tell you I got a lot of pressure on me though,
on those Wednesdays, Jimmy with those what I'm mad abouts
(20:45):
because it's almost like I have to go out there.
It's like my whole appearance on Wednesdays is on that
ten minutes. Yeah, my job on Wednesday is to give
a good ten minutes at eleven thirty, because that's what
people they seem to look for to that. All right,
what is Ruso's gonna scream about today? Look at the camera?
Strike me down? You know all the things that I do,
(21:06):
And it's almost like I could say I could be
great for an hour and forty five minutes, and if
I'm allowsy with that ten minutes, I'm not being successful.
So it's almost like I got more pressure on that
ten minute segment.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Well, what I I mean, I would I would have
thought that segment's fairly easy from the standpoint of since
you only do it once a week, it's probably easy
to come up with three things.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That's fair. It's easier in the football season than it
is now, right, but it is easy. But you for
that to be good, I have to actually be mad
about it right now. I can't be in a situation
where I'm creating emotion. I have to be as a
sports fan. And like with the McNeil's slide with with Hoskins,
(21:48):
you know that bothered me, him getting so upset, right,
that makes for a better segment. Sure I can act
it out and I have Sure I can embellishit. Sure,
I can come up with something just to fill three minutes,
but for that segment to be really good, I need
good content. But I also know it's hard to get
all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, but I think with that second two. I know
for me, I like too when it's a little bit
not straightforward to sport, like I liked when you did
the MLB uniforms. Yes, like stuff like that is always
good much.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I mean I try. I mean I did the Europe thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Why you hate why you hate Christmas?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, the Christmas, the Thanksgiving, the Thanksgiving nonsense, the you know,
the Delta air Lines getting on the plane that one year.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Those are the best ones.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Those are the best ones. And you know, you know
the guys, that's real life. That's real life. But I
still enjoy doing it. And he's the best. He's good
to me.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You mentioned about first taking get stuff out there. Maybe
it's a little more difficult for Serious XM. But I
want to give Serious XM credit for one thing. They
deserve a lot of credit because they came out with
a revamped app. It was awful. People went nuts, like me,
and they fixed it and the app is great again.
A lot of companies won't listen to the audience and
the fan base like that. So I give Serious a
(23:02):
lot of credit. Now we can rewind. I can find
your clips when you go crazy and say something wacky.
So I am very happy Sirious got the app fixed.
That was very bad.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
The fans spoke there, and you were a leader of that,
and you know, I don't know enough about the apps
to really get involved in it, but I was the messenger,
and you're one hundred percent right. That app was important
to Serious XM and they got the thing fixed. Hey, listen,
I'm a radio guy at heart. I love Serious. They've
been good to me for fifteen years. I went to
(23:34):
go see the Mel Carmerson movie. You didn't know about this,
probably his son did a movie on Mel that was
at the Paley Center a couple of weeks ago. I
made Sure as an hour in forty eight minutes. It
was very good. I went sure, I mean, and he
brought me to Serious, so that I mean, listen, I've
been there for and I've almost been as Serious now
as long as I've been in fan People don't realize
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that nineteen years with Mike and fifteen years it's serious
and speaking of a right horrific job by me because
Mike just had a big birthday. Did you know this?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I did know that. Yeah, I saw it on Twitter
that day.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, March twentieth had a lot of his birthday as well.
Mike turned seventy, and like an idiot, you know, I
just totally slip my mind, and I didn't want to
do it three days after the fact. So I know
he pays close attention to you. So as a result,
related happy birthday to the big guy.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Say so, I didn't know. I don't think he pays
attention to buta wait, did you So there was no
text involved that day?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, usually I do. That's what I would, you know,
Usually I would send him something. I for whatever the
reason March twentieth, I don't know what I was doing
in New York. I forgot.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Did he text you on your last birthday?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, I didn't have a I didn't have a big birthday.
No he did not. I mean I bet that, but
he has in the past. He did not know my
last one. But that's not the reason why I should
know or didn't on his. That's a big birthday, you know,
and I needed to do that. That was a terrible job.
So to you here, get wind of this, because you
do a wonderful job. It's a month old or two
(25:08):
weeks old. Maybe I was wrapped up in the NCAA tournament,
Wasn't that the first that was Wednesday? March twentieth was Wednesday.
I needed to say happy birthday to Mike. That's a
terrible job. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I love that. Your excuse for not texting a happy
birthday is the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That it was a Wednesday, So I can't even use
that as an excuse because that was the playing thing.
His birthday was a Wednesday this year. Thursday was the
first day, so I can't even use that as an
excuse that I was wrapped up with sixteen games because
there was only a few games that day.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
All right, here's what we're gonna do, because I know
you have a show to I'm gonna just throw out
some random topics. I want to just get you to
tell me what you think, and we'll just go sort
of like rapid fighting time. I was a weird one.
I was with a weird one. But it's up your alley.
Have you ever interviewed on the fan or on Sirius
X Bob Yuker. Yes, so you know they made a
big deal about him on opening day this week in
(26:02):
Milwaukee because I think he's ninety ninety and he's a
guy that does not do a lot of interviews at all.
I actually tried to get him on this podcast a
couple of years ago. I emailed the Brewers. They wrote
back in one second, no, and like that was it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I feel like that's a guy, and you're a baseball guy.
So I want your opinion, like, who does not get
the credit for being that iconic local you know, the
Harry Carries, the john Sterlings, the Vin Scullies. He should
be in that category.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Right, That's a very fair point. You know, Bud gave
him the job or in the mid seventies, because remember
he didn't do the you know, they came from Seattle
in nineteen seventies, so this is his forty sixth year,
so I think in seventy seven seventy eight is when
he became the voice of the Brewers. He only does
the home games. He had a great line with their
homeowner two days ago. He said, geez, why the hell
(26:52):
were you when I was in my playing days? The ovation,
which is perfect. Yu care. I went to a Joe
torrid A one year the Safe at Home and Uker
was the guy in Costas and Uker did sort of
a one on one together. It was unbelievably funny. I mean,
he's very funny. I've had him on high heat. I
(27:13):
have not had him on the radio. I've had him
on a high heat two or three times. He's very funny.
He does the home games, the Blors. You know, he's
a ninety years old, he's in excellent shape. You know,
he missed the Belvedere. I don't know how many years
he did that, but he did that for a lot
of years. Correct, He did them. A lot of the
baseball game he did, did the Baseball Network stuff, he
(27:34):
did plenty of that. He did World Series games.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yep. Big talk show guy in the eighties too. Johnny
Carson all yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yes, yes, yes, good job he did. He did. He
must have done a million Carsons. Yeah, that's a very
good point. I don't know how many were gonna look
it up. He gotta go on Carson twenty twenty five
times with twin a guy. Course HI would like because
he's so funny. He's funny. Yes, I did see that.
I'm a big Yuka fan, had him on a couple
of times on high.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Heat NCAA tournament. You know, it strikes you know, I
feel this how you sort of about CBS with the NFL,
but it strikes me during the tournament. CBS is their
roster of play by play people is pretty great. Iron
I mean, they had dance iron I know you don't
like them, but you're wrong. Harlan Catalan is outstanding, very good.
(28:22):
Even Brad Nessler Spiro. Like you watch those games.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Worry about the announcers being bad like they have from
top to bottom, they are great.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I'll give you two. First off, that go ahead Nessler
Hayward thing was a much is you know they had
those two games oh by themselves that day because they
were in Salt Lake City and they were the twelve
fifteen and the two twenty five. They had those two
games that would have been they did Dayton in Arizona
and the other game was Gonzaga Kansas, and they did
(28:54):
an excellent job of those two. I agree with you,
And I'll tell you Sam van Gundy's great, Yes, yes,
he is great. I mean and he makes Bonner, him
and Bonno work well together. Hallan's with that crew. Stan
Is he's great, he really is great. But you're right,
Lapis is good. I mean they got a lot of
good teams. And Iron is fit like a glove. He's
(29:16):
been right in there. He's had him and back. They've
done a great job. It's an excellent they get. There's
excellent depth there.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Everyone likes to say no one watches the games for
the announcers. I can tell you I'm leaving the game
on longer when it's Iron and Raftery. I mean, they
are so good it's not even funny.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
They worked. They've done a lot of games together with
the old nets. Raft is so easy, he's like an
old shoe. I mean, he's so good. And iron Is
he's excellent with this, I know. And it's funny. Catalan
and Lapis had the best brackets, you know they had.
They had the Pittsburgh brackets early, which meant that they
had Kentucky losing, and they had the Oregon Quayton double overtime,
(29:57):
and they had NC State and Oakland o time, and
then they had the bracket in I in Detroit and
they had the Purdue can't Purdue the Tennessee game, so
they really had and Tennessee Creighton, so they actually sometimes
it's lucky if you get the good games. I ain't
got lousy games. I and did not get good games. Right,
(30:18):
Duke killing he got.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Killed, Yukhon killing someone in the first round, I mean
he got killed.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
James Madison by forty points. They did not get and
the North kill on a state dude game was not
a good game. They have not gotten the great games.
A lot of it is if you're in the right
bracket where that happened to be, where the good games are.
But you're right good depth all the way around. I'll
with you. So they're going to be hurt this weekend
because the games are on CBS. You know this better
than me. Thirty percent of their audients on TV is
(30:44):
a thirty percent? Is that about the right number.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And here's the thing too, I think you can get
away with a small dip if you go from CBS
to ESPN. You know, we just saw the women with
the twelve point three million TBS. It's different. No one
thinks of TBS as a as a college basketball network.
They show no games at all during the regular season.
When you think college basketball, TBS is not in your
brain at all. Plus, you know again the people who
(31:10):
with thirty five and under, nobody is cable, so you
need the TBS app to stream it. It's not like,
here's the thing. If you're under thirty five, everybody has
the ESPN app to go stream it. You have paramount
to stream the TBS. It's not interesting on that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Level interesting interesting. Yeah, So they will not do as
well this weekend. And I'll tell you right now, if
they get a Yukon Perdue game, that's a great championship game. Yeah,
you got the defending champ. People know who Yukon is.
They won five titles for do out of the Big
ten and I got that is a very good final
(31:49):
on Monday night. Now watch them get NC State Alabama.
But that that's a very good final.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's NC State Alabama on TBS. That could be ugly.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's a tough point.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I have a little bone to pick with you. I
was upset on Wednesday's first take that you didn't stay
around for the Cody Roads interview. And I'm gonna tell
you why. I know you're not a wrestling guy. I
know you're not a wrestling guy. I get. But here's why.
But let me tell you something. Anytime they have a
wrestler on, you should stay for the interview and I'll
tell you why. You know how you are obsessed with
(32:23):
people's travel schedules. Ask one of these guys about their
travel schedule their home. They're only home in their houses
one day a week. Basically they do shows that.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
They're bouncing around that much. Huh.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
They will have better travel stories for you than any athlete.
You can imagine. They're in you know, Houston one night,
North Carolina the next night, Madison Square Garden. I mean
it's you know, they fly overseas. So I was I
meant to. I was gonna even give your heads up
when I heard that guy was going to be on.
(32:57):
Anytime those guys are on, ask them about their you
will be blown away.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Wow, fascinating. And that was that was they said, Chris,
you do you want? You want to stay? I said,
you know what, I don't know that much about it.
Steven's into it. Let me leave. And if I would
have known that beforehand, I would have stayed. That was
a christ can out of ESPN.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Go ahead, so you won't be locked into Seth Rollins
and Cody Rhodes versus Romans and the Rock.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
What is that this weekend? Right? Yees? Saturday?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
It got so big they do it two nights. Now
they do it Saturday and Sunday. They do night at
Lincoln Stadium in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
By the way, I haven't had him on yet. I'm
reading a good book, Real Hoosiers. It's said Jack McCallum
wrote it Oscar Oscar robertson mid fifties high school Indianapolis,
and he did a chapter on the Hoosier myths with
(33:52):
the movie Would you like me to give you one?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Sure? Because I don't like that movie. I'm like the
only person.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oh you don't like that movie?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's I here's the thing. Hoosia's rudy when they go
over with the hokiness, the over the top is sol.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I love who Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Anyway, everyone does. I know I'm in the minority.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'll give you one that's interesting. Normandale played by Hackman,
great movie Normandale. The real Normandale was twenty four years old.
Really Hackman was what in the movie. He was a
redemption cook. She got thrown out. He was fifty years old, right, right, right, right,
twenty four years old.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's that's that's taking too many liberties.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
That's some taking some liberties.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yet, will you lend that book to JJ Reddick, a
book on Oscar Robinson.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I'm going to tell you something that's interesting. I lent
the book. I told Dominic Foxworth. First take. He's a
very smart guy. Yeah, he texts. I gave him a
Lombardi book, read it, loved it. He had, you know,
the Great Lombardi Book by Marenis. Yeah. Yeah, So he
asked me about two weeks ago and he said, you got
(34:59):
a book for me, and said, I haven't read it yet,
but I guarantee you to do a great job. Read
the real Hoosiers. Get that. He gets on his phone.
He orders it on Amazon. I'm in the Caribbean. It came
out March fifth. I'm in the Caribbean. He texts me,
what a core this is the this is an unbelievable book.
(35:20):
So I gave the book the Foxworth. He lots a
book he's not going to you know, necessarily it's basketball
and he loves it. Hey, it knocksh over the head
with racism, as it should. So you got to get
you got to you know Ku klux plan basketball in Indianapolis.
You know his point is this, Indiana is not a
(35:41):
northern state and it's not a southern state.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It's kind of in the middle, right, right, right, So
when it goes back to Magic and Bird in their relationship, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Saw, it's a lot. And you know they didn't let
the black teams play in the Indiana State tournament to
nineteen forty four, right, things like that. It's very good. Anyway,
I just made out the fact food out there is
adam as you know.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I got it. Jack is great. Jack is great. I
know you talked about on your show. Did you finish?
Did you watch the whole Patriots thing on Apple?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got three to go?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It's amazing the backlash, like, what don't you like about it?
I didn't watch it because I thought it was going
to be ten episodes of just the Patriots are great.
But everything I'm reading is everyone's saying it's all negative.
They killed Belichick the whole way. Now I didn't, So
can you explain this to me? Just explain one thing
(36:35):
to me. How do you win eight million Super Bowls
and you're killing the coach?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, they killing a coach, John a variety they kill
him with with Spygate. Basically, Jonathan Kraft goes on there
and says that Bill did not want to cut Aaron
Hernandez when he was arrested for murder before they're going
to get a whole room with the Brady thing. I
haven't gotten to that part yet, but Ray gets, you know,
(37:00):
to basically, you know, he wipes his hands of the Flakegate,
so they get on him for that, and you know,
and Belichick doesn't help himself. He's on camera half the
things he doesn't even comment on, so that makes it
very very difficult.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
He won a million super Bowls for them.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I listen. I think he's a great coach too. I
would say this, if you were Belicheck and you watched it,
you would not be happy.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Right, And that's and the guy, and the guy won
all those super Bowls for that organization.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
And you know, Bledsoe is on him because he didn't
give him his job back after he got hurt with
Demo Lewis hit. That's in there too, is the right
Corbette Betticheck. Of course that's in there too. They won
a super Bowl that year, so there's a lot of
little things like that. I can see if you're crafted.
I guess. He was quoted at the owner's meeting saying
(37:48):
that he thought it was very negative. Yeah, but if
you make it so positive, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
They also had Devin mccordy and Rodney Harrison say they
spoke for hours and only pulled the negative stuff and
didn't use any of the positive stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I did see that. I did see the huts. I
did see the quotes Brady see people. I could see
I could see a person in antient land wanting more
of a loving portrayal, and it's a little bit more
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I agree with that Brady will be great on Fox
when the NFL will be because I listened to him
on that serious XM show Jim Gray. He's going to
give you stuff you don't get from other analysts. He's
gonna be good, I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You, is going to be a quarterback who's playing port it.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh yeah, he was killing the quarterbacks this year. You
know that's what really. So, there was something that happened
where a receiver got hurt on a pass where you know,
the pass was way ahead of the receiver. He lays
out to catch it dB comes and knocks the receiver
into next Tuesday, and Brady ripped the quarterback and said,
(38:51):
the quarterbacks not learning how to throw where you protect
your receivers, and I get your receivers hurt?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
He will.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I'm telling you people are gonna be surprised by.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Brady is going to be with Joe Davis?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Is that the deal as of now? I don't know
how long that's gonna last, because he's he wants to
be a number one guy, number one job.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Where is he going to go to be the number
one guy? You can't go to c almost there forever
Aikman's going nowhere. I mean he wants to go to
Amazon and replace herb Street. Where is he going to
go to be the number one guy?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I think the only option may be is NBC at
some point because they already they already blew out Al.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
He's not doing the games next year on Amazon?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
No, No, I'm NBCB They got rid of Al. So
maybe now they go completely fresh booth in any year.
Because I think if you take all the analysts, the
oldest one I think is Olsen. I mean it's Consworth.
Is Consworth.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Consworth can't last there forever with NBC. I don't know
if they believe Garrett Jason Garrett is the heir of.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Parents, not if you can get Greg Olsen.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, I mean maybe that is possible. And now I
don't know what the cons. I don't think cons was
quitting anytime soon? Is he?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I don't think so either, But I think when that
contract is up, if Greg Olsen, because I'm Greg Olsen,
hasn't out that he can leave if he can be
a number one broadcaster somewhere.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So, like you said, can't go to CBS, Romos is
there for Maybe maybe Herbstreek gets tired at two games
a week and he stops doing Amazon and.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That's I mean, Amazon, that's not what you want to
do if you're him. I'm just not on Thursday nights.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No, all right, let's end it with this. I assume
you're not a curb your enthusiasm watching how many? How
many people hit you up about Springsteen?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh? On that show a lot? Eddie Erickson, our producer,
did too. Yes, I am not a cur I just
don't watch it. So I'm I sound like I'm not
a fan. I just I just really have never gotten
But I heard he was excellent on there.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
He was beyond excellent. He was in what I think
was the Ask Gatty. I think that was the greatest
scene of this season.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Eddie's acknowledging you right.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
So you had banter between Larry and Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And Bruce is play himself right, yes.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yes, Larry. Larry says to him, can I call you Boss?
In the scene, so there's great banter. So the setup
of the scene is Larry was in a restaurant. It
had an A rating and while he's eating there, they
switched it to a C rating and he's telling Springsteen
about it, and Springsteen's like, I would eat in a
B restaurant and Bruce is like, the boss was eating
(41:30):
a bway, Can I call you Boss? And Springsteen was funny.
Then someone comes into the scene who worked who this
is in the show. He worked with Larry on Seinfeld,
but he he transitioned. When he was at Seinfeld, him
and Larry were having relations when he was a woman.
Now he's a man. And Bruce is there for that
(41:51):
whole banter. And then you have Jeff and the wife
who's always yelling at Larry picking on Larry with Bruce
Bruce was. He was in two big scenes, probably had
about I tell you he had eight to ten minutes total.
Larry gives Bruce COVID and then COVID and then Bruce
has to cancel shows. That's part of the storyline.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Oh yeah, I did hear his excellent. I did not
see it. I'm into the Manhunt series right now on
Apple Plus, but I did not see that. But Eddie
did tell me he was excellent on a show.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Even if you don't watch Curb, it's a half hour
you could watch as a standalone, and you should watch
it just to see how natural Bruce. Bruce was hilarious. Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Eddie said the same thing as the first thing.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Eddie said, all right, I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
One thing is yes, podcast is back back up and running.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Back up and running and we are approaching episode number
five hundred in a couple of months.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Wow, pretty good for you. I like to try to.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I like to I want to get Brady, That's who
I'm trying to get.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't see what you gotta talk to Jim Gray
about it.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
I mean, I can't have Jim Gray say to Tom, Tom,
can you go on with this guy, you know, but
I mean.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
He can get you a number to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I have a person. I have a person. I have
a person. Can you help me with Barkley? Which is
Barkley King?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Not after he announced his retirement.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I did. He did so many interviews I did not
get him. I give you I had three. I had
three guests in twenty twenty three for the first time
who I never had on, Barkley, McAfee and Bill Simmons.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
That's three good ones.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah. So from the sports world, I'm not sure who
I haven't had on that. Like, I think, you know,
Brady's going to be the No. One analyst for Fox.
He's the guy to get on.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
That's a very good you get Brady. That's a home run, right,
That's a home run I never had. I never had
him on radio.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, well you know what wants but not here. What
really made me want to get him was when he
did like that three hour interview during COVID on Howard,
which was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, excellent spot. Excellent spot. I'm trying to think, if uh,
the NBA is coming up, you can do some NBA stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, I've had I've had you known have you had
read it? Gun, No, I've tried, but JJ has not
come through yet.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
How about Doris Burt Doris, I've.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Had on, I'll have hor on again. I've had her on. Breen,
I've had on.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Okay, Yeah, it's great to have you back in the mix.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Jimmy, Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I'm very lucky,
only only missed one week. But like you know, like
I said, we said at the top, boy, you want
to get something happens. You just want to get out there.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
And yeah, yeah, you want to get your If you're
a good broadcaster and you're a good sports guy, you
want to get your opinions out there.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
I do it on Twitter. But here's the thing. If
you do it on Twitter, you always have someone coming
back and disagreeing with you. If I write it in
my column, it's it's I put it out there and
I don't have to deal with any of it.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
You didn't have to deal with the nsayers I posted.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
I posted Sterling's home run call for Alex Dugo Yet yesterday, Oh.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I was good. I didn't hear it.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
It wasn't great. He did, Alex, Alex the great.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
He's done that before with a rod.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
That was an a bomb for it. But right someone
wrote back right away, like Sterling's terrible. I can't believe
you think he's the good You know, I don't. I'm
not playing that game.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I heard him. I heard him with the Sodo stuff
when Soto got big hits. He was funny with Sodo.
You know he all of a sudden, John Sterling is
he was in the other league. All of a sudden,
John Sterling has discovered Juan Soto, and for the first
time he realizes, Wow, this guy is great. He like
he's like John He won a World's championship. For crying
(45:41):
out loud.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It's hard to pay attention to every team if if
you're that's true. You know Susan knows the other teams
because you hear her break it down to a game.
Susan knows the other.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Time she does the one before the game. She goes
down and talks to the players and the managers and
all those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
But I like any Sterling home run call where he sings.
So we got a little singing with once.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
So he did. He did make this first roadship. He
went to Houston and Phoenix in Arizona. I know, Houston
and Arizona. He's not gonna go. He doesn't go on
all the road trips.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I know.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I don't like I don't like losing the you know,
I don't like these guys slowing down. It's like you,
you gotta stay serious for That's the other thing, you know,
going back, how about rafter he doing all these games.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
He's eighty, he.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Has lost nothing.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I agree, he's he's he's still very I mean he's
on forty years.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Have you had him on by the way, I don't know.
I had him on way before we did it on zoom.
I had him on once. It's very hard to get ready.
Well that's it, you know, with doing them on zoom.
Sometimes some of the older people, you know, I don't
want to sound like an agist, but you know, they
don't might know that, might not know.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
That's why Jenny up here to set up the zoom
for me, because I would not.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Have you're a mess. You're give me. Have you had
any we have a Have you had a technological disaster recently?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Have I any? Oh? Yes? Apple play in my car?
I used BMW. I couldn't get the damn Apple thing.
To work. I was so bad when the clock changed,
I couldn't even get the clock work. And on day
on daylight Savings said Eddie, gonna help me here, and
(47:22):
so Eddie came up one day finally fixed the glitches
of the car play and any by the way, it's
been working well lately. Annie fixed the time in the
right hand corner because I didn't know how to move
the clock. So that was my technological disaster. In the
last couple of days weeks. I was so frustrated that
(47:44):
I could I was listening to my music on my phone,
which is not the same. I finally got the damn
thing fixed.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Is Eddie writing? Is Eddie writing a book? Your biggest
fear in life?
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Eddie? Are you writing a book? No? Eddy? You know
Eddie is still you know, he's been with me now
about what ten years, Eddie, but with me fen ten years.
It was with Mike before that. Eddie's had a big
career and so he's always been close to Mike, and
now he's close to me. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
So if you're if you're home nine o'clock at night
and you need to find a channel, or the satellite's
not working or something.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Life, or if one of my kids is home.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Then Eddie, Eddie's third.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
It's hard for me to call Eddie when he's in
Massapequa and I'm up here to direct me to how
to use the remote I have in the past, but
that never seems to work. So I get Jeanie to
help me get my daughter's home right now, and so
Kira will help me. Patchrick's pretty good at it when
(48:44):
he's home, but I struggle with it. There's no question
about it.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Are you out of the doghouse with Genie from when
you made fun of her with the Super Bowl boxes?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yes? That was that was it. That was funny. That
was a good one. I did that on first take.
I bet with my what a week ahead? Yeah, yeah,
I got. I got out of the dog house with that.
H Yeah. She's been pretty good she I've been okay
with her, been good.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Shit, you told her the game ends, you told her
the super Bowl ends and a tie?
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, you know. I'm going to the Masters next week.
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I saw. Yeah, I heard that. But you're not doing shows?
Are you not allowed to do shows from there?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I mean I haven't even looked into it. But if
you go to the If you go to Augusta for
the first time, they want to be run around. Funding
on radio station three dis body afternoon. Let me enjoy
the experience for twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Well, you'll have great stories when you come back that
I'm looking forward to. Yeah, yes, that'll be good. Thanks,
all right, well, I appreciate it. Enjoying the Masters Sirius
XM Monday through Friday three to six Eastern First Take
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Jim all right, take it easy, see you, buddy. All right,
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Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Trayina. Thank you
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hanging in there. We missed a show last week. Was
not ideal, out of my hands thought. Actually the hiatus
here for s IM Media's Jimmy Training might be a
little bit longer. But we are up and running. Only
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for that. SI Management Minute Media Management, SI's new operator.
We're phenomenal and working hard to be able to get
this podcast up this week. My producer Shelby who's not
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people enough because this would not have happened if a
lot of people didn't do a lot of work that
it need to do. I don't want to get into
what's been going on with SI because it's so convoluted
and drun out. Most of what you read about the
old operators of SI are true, so you can google
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it if you want. But we've transitioned to a new
operator and it's been a miracle. We're able to just
get up and running and we only missed one show,
So I thank all those people again, SI Management, Minute,
Media Management, Hunter Armour. All you guys were sticking by
me when I said there wouldn't be a podcast last week.
The support was overwhelming, heard from so many people. Was
(01:28):
pretty blown away by it. So I can't thank you
guys enough. And we're here. We're not going anywhere. We're
rolling SI. The magazine Sports Illustrated is still going. The
website SI dot com, bookmarket, our social channels are alive,
the podcast is alive, and we have a sort of
a new lease on life that's I'm really looking forward to.
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So whatever you've read about SI, don't believe it. We're here,
We're not dead. We roll on. This podcast rolls on,
and I out here this week because we had some
issues just we have to get him on board, and
I wanted to do this one solo, just to get
it under the belt. Like I said, we've got a
lot of people working here who don't really need to
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be working on the pod doing me a favor, so
I wanted to make it easy for them, and I
figured i'd reward everyone with an appearance from the Great
Christopher mad Dog Russo from Serious XM and first take.
So it'll be me and Doggie on this podcast. Sal
will be back hopefully next week. And we are here
(02:33):
after one week off business as usual, and I cannot
thank you guys enough for all of the support and
messages over the past couple of weeks. And that's enough
about all that. Let's do what we do SI Media
Podcast with Jimmy Treyna all right here, right now, with
Christopher mad Dog Russo all right joining me now. I
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have had to have an a list special up notch
guest for the first show back after a very brief
hiatus for the SI Media Podcast, So I called on
the Doggie.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's great to be here, Jimmy. I thought that Bucking
Aikman could be a good possibility. I also thought for you,
Iron Eagle would be good if he wasn't traveling. I
know you love Iron and he's got his first.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Final four, So no, I wanted the Doggie.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I appreciate that and anything for my fifth child and
my fourth son. As I've told you a thousand times,
I agree this podcast now back raring to go daily.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Back way, what do we have here? Back raring to
go like nothing's happened. It was all stuff above me, management, ownership,
operation stuff. We had a different operator. We have a
new operator. The new operators outstanding. The old operator is gone.
They didn't make the transition easy. That's why we were
down for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Hollow we How long are you down for?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I missed one podcast episode last week, and let me
tell you, you killed me. I had an I had Jeff
Passing booked, and I had one of the WWE people,
Paul Hayman, book because wrestled Manias this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And Hayman's a big spot. I know we did that
yesterday on the first take.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yes, yes, So I had to cancel both of those
guys because I couldn't do a show shows last week.
My column's been down for about two weeks. Came back.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh but it's too bad. So you've had some Now
you're back in the mix. We need to have you there.
You're very important. I read all of that side the
Baseball issue, very good story on the bucks by Chris Mannix.
I'm going to read the article on the ACC commissioner.
I'm looking forward to what's the Phillips, whatever his name is,
YE looking for that. And I've been reading you know
(04:40):
how much I read side even in this deleted one
month thing, I'm still on top.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Of it, and the magazine is still alive. Everything's still
everything's alive, the website, the podcasts were good to go,
and uh, I think we're going to be doing really
well here with this with our new operators.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So oh that's important. Now, how you doing otherwise?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You've been good, I've been good. So yeah, I mean, listen,
it's funny that I wasn't gonna bring this up, but
I'm just thinking about it. I have to say, two
weeks where I couldn't write a column, do a podcast
when you're used to getting your opinions out there. Oh gosh,
that's rough. I mean, that's right. The tournament started, this
(05:20):
will happen. The first day of the NCAA tournament basically
was the first day I got shut down.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So sixteenth, Yeah, that's a big day. I felt a
little the same way here when I was off the
baseball you know, when they had a few big issues
in baseball. You know, you're trained to want to have
as you said, you hit it right ahead platforms. You
got a platform here. You want to say something, and
you know, I have no place to say it. You know,
I go to Anguela, I got nine days. I'm in
(05:47):
the middle of the Caribbean Ocean, and as a result,
I don't have anybody sitting there listening to what I
have to say. So I do understand that it is
an adjustment. You and I one day are going to
have to deal with that because one of these years
they're not gonna want us. You want to deal with
it in a busy time with the year, and in
two week period. You know, baseball is right around the corner.
(06:08):
You got the NC Double A, you got golf, you
got the TPS, you got things happening, and you can't talk.
That would drive me great.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
That I was one of the things that pissed me
up the most was I couldn't bash baseball for the
atrocious setup for opening Day, playing games a week and
a half beforehand.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, I don't like that either.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And the Yankees went on Opening Day, I'll get all
fired up, Soto, I'm all pumped up. The next day
is that Friday night, you have two you have two
tournament games, Yankees, let me do three straight hours of
flipping around. Just want to flip around for three hours?
And they're on goddamn Apple TV.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we've discussed issue and I
and that maybe your boycott those games on the Apple TV.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I don't watch them on Apple TV. I will not
let to go look too.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You know, the Dodgers play the Yankees this year at
Yankee Stadium. It's a week series Friday night Apple TV,
and that's gonna be who it's in the middle of
the summer. I mean, Yankees and Dodgers at Yankee Stadium
with Oltani, Betts and Freeman on a Friday night. I
believe it's when Cole would return. And in fact it's good.
(07:19):
Jovis crazy, you know. And here's what sick with it
and not be able to switch anywhere else or just say,
you know what, my little boycott little.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But that Friday night's perfect with two tournament games and
the Yankees just flip, you know, flip.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, And that was the first day of the tournament Tuesday.
You're in good shape. No, it was last weekend. So
I was sweet sixteen. Yeah, perfect, right, perfect, perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And here's what kills me about it. I love baseball,
and nobody loves baseball more than you. There is not
a human being on the face of the ear that
loves baseball more than you, and they do this to us.
You know, I feel like, maybe I don't know, maybe
I'm wrong. I feel like baseball almost thinks, Okay, well,
the NFL does this, the NBA does this, so we
have to No, you don't. Don't just because youfl's doing it,
(08:01):
you don't have to do it. This whole thing with
the streaming, the NFL can do whatever they want. There
is They could put a game on it three in
the morning and make you have to put tinfoil over
your TV to watch, and you're gonna do it. The NFL,
every game means something. There's only sixteen regular season games
every I can easily blow off the second MLB game
of the season.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And I don't know why baseball doesn't understand this.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What they get five and ninety five million for seven
years is that?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah? No, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, I don't know what the eppisode sevenion about. It
buy seven So they get about basically ninety million a year.
That makes about sense. That's about right, right, And so
ninety adds three million dollars per team. I you're the
one who told me no longer on Peacock, So the
peacock thing is out. Uh yeah, I don't like it either.
I'm with you. I hate the NFL first game of
the year with the Eagles being down in South pallow
(08:52):
That drives me crazy too. And I don't like the
Amazon on the Prime the playoff game on Amazon with that,
But as you said, you will put up with it
because obviously it's football. You only play seventeen or eighteen games,
so when you miss a baseball game out of one
sixty two, it's not a big deal. You miss a
(09:13):
football game out of sixteen seventeen, it feels like I'm
much just like missing ten baseball games. So it does
ball there. So I understand your point. I get it.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Let me let me go to this here with baseball,
since we're on it Otani. I don't even want to
get into Otani specifically, because I don't think he bet
on baseball, and if he's bet on other sports, they
don't really care. But what Otani did. And then a
few days later we had the story about the NBA
guy who they thought maybe was involved with some prop
(09:42):
bet stuff. Are we are we headed for something really
really bad in the gambling legalization here? I mean, listen,
I don't care. I have a very selfish attitude about this.
My attitude is I like to bet, Let me bet,
leave me alone. I don't care what happens. I'm being honest.
That's how I feel. And I know people want to
(10:03):
do doom and gloom. I really don't care. It doesn't
bother me. But it does feel like we are headed
for something bad here.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, I think the issue is it's not so much
the athletes themselves. They make so much money the athlete.
The issue might be these hanger ons, you know in
this case. I mean, it isn't true. I don't believe
that the translator in Otani's case stole his passwords and
wired four and a half million dollars of money to
the bookie without Otiy knowing about it. So I think
(10:31):
that's a bunch of nonsense. But you know, the fact
that a guy was able to get in that kind
of hot water that's eliminate the amount would make you think, well, geez,
I've lost all these other sports. The one thing I
can get a little help with was the baseball. Let
me ask Otani if his starting pitcher's got a sore
arm or not. So I think it really has more
(10:51):
to do with the periphery than it does with the
big star, because I guess the baseball or the football
with all the hangers on, you know, you with injuries
in football, that maybe some information gets passed from a
guy making bets because he's got some info on the
left tackle who can't play this week, he's on one leg,
you know that, who's not properly listed on the injury report.
(11:14):
You know, it's that kind of thing. So I think
it's more of Jimmy, the people who are around the
game and part of the andolages of these athletes than
it is per se with the athletes. I did not
follow the NBA case too well. I don't know that
much about Porter. I know I'm with you one thousand percent.
No way Otani bet on the baseball. I agree, now,
(11:34):
I do think it was his bets. I don't think
that Otani. I don't think this guy, no bookie in
America is gonna let some guy make him two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars a year get four and a
half million dollars in debt. That is not gonna happen.
It's a big bookie in Southern California. A guy calls
him up to make bets and gets five million in
a hole. He's not gonna wonder what's going on and
look to collect unless he knows that the kid is
(11:56):
booked backed by somebody. So that is where I don't
pay any ten of the old tiny camp. Well, this
is grand theft. That's a bunch of nonsense. But I
do think and I don't think Otani was betting on
baseball inwo thousand percent. I think ALTONI was helping a friend,
And you can make an argument there. That's a nice gesture.
Guys in debt show, Hey I need help. He's not happy,
all right, Yeah, what's five mall of him? He's worth billions.
(12:19):
He gives the five million up, So I think that's
what that's about. But I think it's the periphery guy
Jimmy that they're concerned about.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So I think I agree with you. I wonder the
one area I might worry about is a ref for
an ump.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I think that's what we saw Donaghee at the NBA
Tim Donagh. Yeah, players are not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It was gonna make the too much to lose, and
they're making too much money. How much money can you make?
Why would a player making ten million dollars a year
better fifteen hundred unless he's just having fun, But fifteen
hundred on the Angels, he wouldn't do it. He'd be stupid.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Like you know, it was so firm, right, there's nothing
wrong with what Calvin Ridley did. I totally, totally yeah.
You know I was a bad host because I was
all fired up. You came out. I didn't mention the
dog is on Serious XM Monday through Friday three to six.
He's got high heat on the MLB network every day
at eleven am. He's got First Take, which we got
(13:14):
to get into once a week. So let me get
all those plugs in now, I know. Now wait, let
me see. I'm gonna let me see if I can
get them here. I know I wasn't happy you gave
some news to someone else that you resigned it first Take.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, I gave some news because that was Mike McCarthy, right,
And he came up to me at the super Bowl
on that Thursday and he just asked me and I
just bluttered it out. That was not okay. Let me
give this to Mike McCarthy instead of my fifth son.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was how many? How many years did you resign for?
With it?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
With I'll give you too.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Now, what's going on with serious XM because you've been
talking for months about what we're going to do here?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Well, you know, I got it. Speaking of which I
got a a half to a minute. I got a
little respite with the MLB because remember there was no
MLB High Heat Show from December twenty second until March
twenty fifth. So I've done that show for ten years.
That is the first time in the ten that I
did not do the show on a wintertime. Did you
(14:18):
know that I have done that show? You knew that
you not everybody knows what you do. I have done
that show. You know. I was contracted to do two
hundred and twenty shows a year, so I did that
show every day essentially in the wintertime. You know I
was off maybe hot holidays, but took a week off.
But I did that show on the winter time. This
is the first year that I know they didn't pay me,
(14:39):
but this is the first year when I didn't do it.
So as result, it gave me a little break. As
you said, I missed it at times but I didn't
have to work first thing in the morning. I only
had the radio show at three o'clock in the afternoon
once a week, going to the city for a first take.
So you'd be amazed when you set up to do
the you know, because if it's eleven, I am. I
(15:00):
gotta get up at seven o'clock. I got a meeting
at eight o'clock. I gotta get the hair done, and
I gotta do this to paint. I gotta talk to Alana,
make sure you're on the same pin. That kind of stuff.
I'd have to do that for three months, so it
actually gave me a little bit of a respite. Now
that it's back. In the first two weeks, I've been
really into it, So hopefully that will maintain itself throughout
the course of the year. As far as the serious
(15:20):
thing is concerned, I don't really have a lot to
tell you. Contract is. You know, it's up sometime in
late in the summer, and I would think we'd meet
some sort of understanding, but I can't say that those
discussions have taken place as we speak. So you know,
whether it's five months away, yeah, Serious usually waits a
(15:41):
while before they renew things. So we shall see.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I thought it was up way sooner than that. From
the way you were talking.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I think it's August. I don't even know what I
don't even know the date. That tell you how lost
I am. I don't even know the date. And I
know when I did the first take. I did an
extra year. It's serious. I think I told you this
because you know they were Christian. We're giving let you
do first take. What are you gonna give us? So
I gave you an extra year? Well that year is
now up or so. I'm not exactly sure where we
(16:09):
I would be shocked if something did not work out
with serious, But you know it's a negotiation. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, just make sure you're back.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
On the radio.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But this, but the first take thing is an easy one.
How do I know? It's two years I lived. I
gotta do it. I gotta do and they're good to me.
You know, it is good to me, and the ESPN's
good to me, So I do it.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I felt like there was a rocky star few but
I feel like all those guys now they get you.
Orlowski read I had the rocky star.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, I had a rocky star. JA with JJ with Redick.
As you know, where I said something I should have used.
I should have used better words to explain what I
was trying to say about Raymond Green. Uh. He labeled it,
which gets me in trouble. Uh And as a result,
I got killed for two or three days. Uh. So
I learned to be careful of how to say what
(17:01):
I'm trying to say and do it in a quote
unquote diplomatic way. But outside of that hiccup, which is
two years ago now and my wife was upsets is Chris,
I told you not to do this stupid show. But
you know, I said, honey, I understand, I gotta do
a better job of it. So since then, it's been
a home run. And there's no argument they've been great
to me. I can't make any He's been great to me.
(17:23):
So from that standpoint, I like going the We're the
worst part about it is to commute. It's a pain
in the neck to get the Lower Manhattan on a
Wednesday morning at seven o'clock. Other than that, I you know,
I love that it's fun. He's fun. I liked it's
better when he's there, when he's on the remote in
La because he's got so much to do with the
(17:44):
NBA Countdown and all the other you know, he plays
the brick in General Hospital and all that. So when
he's got to go to LA for those other things
and he has to get up at four o'clock in
the morning to do the show, he has to meeting
at four point thirty. Then he's got to be ready
to go at seven. When he's on the West Coast
and he's on the monitor, it's harder. It's harder. I'm
(18:06):
sitting here with Molly and I'm trying to get something
out of him. It's harder when he's in New York.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It's great you're not in the social media world, but
I know you hear about it from Eddie, from me,
from probably your son Colin. You get everyone gives you
the information of what's going on. Are you even a
little surprised how every single week something you say makes news,
makes headlines, gets picked up.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, I mean, I asked Ketty on Wednesday, feed the pig, Eddie,
find me some stuff, find me some stuff on you know,
on Twitter. You know, after I did the madabouts is
that's you know so, and Shack's mad at me now
because of the ranking of the centers and everything. Oh yeah,
I'm aware of it. I don't I don't search for
it myself, but but but I am aware of it.
(18:55):
You know, I think I think there's a couple of
things with it. Number one, you know, I don't know.
You know, the MLB network is a niche audience, Sirius XM.
You know, it's radio. It's a different medium. In twenty
twenty four, they hear the radio on the snippets. So
I don't know how many people out there outside of
my loyal fandom is sitting here listening to three hours,
(19:16):
but they watch First Take. Number one. First Take has
a unbelievable media for social media presence. They get it.
If you get in that washing machine of ESPN, they
get it out. It's on your app, it's here, it's there.
If you say something that they think can get clicks,
they're gonna get it out there. The other avenues or
(19:38):
the other issues that I work, they don't have the manpower,
the wherewithal, whatever the case to get those clicks. ESPN
Canna on ESPN and I think it's goofy and people
are gonna get into it. I know that ESPN is
going to get that out there, and that's where these
clicks come from.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
The shacked Shack said he was going to kick your ass, right,
Shack's man.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I haven't ever spoken to Shack. I've had him
on the air a couple of times on Fan, but
I've never had him on these man, because he's made
it two things. One in the centers, I put Moses
malonea ahead of him all time. And then two, I wondered,
on first take, this is both first take. Well, I
did it on that serious, but I did it on
first take, which he's where I probably heard about it.
(20:23):
I did it on first take, and on first take,
I said, what are the Orlando Magic doing? He left
after four years. They didn't want a championship. They retired
his number and that probably got back to him too,
which also annoyed him. So he got the back to
back with Shaq that that got him ticked off. I'll
tell you I got a lot of pressure on me though,
on those Wednesdays, Jimmy with those what I'm mad abouts
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because it's almost like I have to go out there.
It's like my whole appearance on Wednesdays is on that
ten minutes. Yeah, my job on Wednesday is to give
a good ten minutes at eleven thirty, because that's what
people they seem to look for to that. All right,
what is Ruso's gonna scream about today? Look at the camera?
Strike me down? You know all the things that I do,
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And it's almost like I could say I could be
great for an hour and forty five minutes, and if
I'm allowsy with that ten minutes, I'm not being successful.
So it's almost like I got more pressure on that
ten minute segment.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Well, what I I mean, I would I would have
thought that segment's fairly easy from the standpoint of since
you only do it once a week, it's probably easy
to come up with three things.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That's fair. It's easier in the football season than it
is now, right, but it is easy. But you for
that to be good, I have to actually be mad
about it right now. I can't be in a situation
where I'm creating emotion. I have to be as a
sports fan. And like with the McNeil's slide with with Hoskins,
(21:48):
you know that bothered me, him getting so upset, right,
that makes for a better segment. Sure I can act
it out and I have Sure I can embellishit. Sure,
I can come up with something just to fill three minutes,
but for that segment to be really good, I need
good content. But I also know it's hard to get
all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, but I think with that second two. I know
for me, I like too when it's a little bit
not straightforward to sport, like I liked when you did
the MLB uniforms. Yes, like stuff like that is always
good much.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I mean I try. I mean I did the Europe thing.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Why you hate why you hate Christmas?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, the Christmas, the Thanksgiving, the Thanksgiving nonsense, the you know,
the Delta air Lines getting on the plane that one year.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Those are the best ones.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Those are the best ones. And you know, you know
the guys, that's real life. That's real life. But I
still enjoy doing it. And he's the best. He's good
to me.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You mentioned about first taking get stuff out there. Maybe
it's a little more difficult for Serious XM. But I
want to give Serious XM credit for one thing. They
deserve a lot of credit because they came out with
a revamped app. It was awful. People went nuts, like me,
and they fixed it and the app is great again.
A lot of companies won't listen to the audience and
the fan base like that. So I give Serious a
(23:02):
lot of credit. Now we can rewind. I can find
your clips when you go crazy and say something wacky.
So I am very happy Sirious got the app fixed.
That was very bad.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
The fans spoke there, and you were a leader of that,
and you know, I don't know enough about the apps
to really get involved in it, but I was the messenger,
and you're one hundred percent right. That app was important
to Serious XM and they got the thing fixed. Hey, listen,
I'm a radio guy at heart. I love Serious. They've
been good to me for fifteen years. I went to
(23:34):
go see the Mel Carmerson movie. You didn't know about this,
probably his son did a movie on Mel that was
at the Paley Center a couple of weeks ago. I
made Sure as an hour in forty eight minutes. It
was very good. I went sure, I mean, and he
brought me to Serious, so that I mean, listen, I've
been there for and I've almost been as Serious now
as long as I've been in fan People don't realize
(23:55):
that nineteen years with Mike and fifteen years it's serious
and speaking of a right horrific job by me because
Mike just had a big birthday. Did you know this?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I did know that. Yeah, I saw it on Twitter
that day.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, March twentieth had a lot of his birthday as well.
Mike turned seventy, and like an idiot, you know, I
just totally slip my mind, and I didn't want to
do it three days after the fact. So I know
he pays close attention to you. So as a result,
related happy birthday to the big guy.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Say so, I didn't know. I don't think he pays
attention to buta wait, did you So there was no
text involved that day?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, usually I do. That's what I would, you know,
Usually I would send him something. I for whatever the
reason March twentieth, I don't know what I was doing
in New York. I forgot.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Did he text you on your last birthday?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, I didn't have a I didn't have a big birthday.
No he did not. I mean I bet that, but
he has in the past. He did not know my
last one. But that's not the reason why I should
know or didn't on his. That's a big birthday, you know,
and I needed to do that. That was a terrible job.
So to you here, get wind of this, because you
do a wonderful job. It's a month old or two
(25:08):
weeks old. Maybe I was wrapped up in the NCAA tournament,
Wasn't that the first that was Wednesday? March twentieth was Wednesday.
I needed to say happy birthday to Mike. That's a
terrible job. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I love that. Your excuse for not texting a happy
birthday is the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That it was a Wednesday, So I can't even use
that as an excuse because that was the playing thing.
His birthday was a Wednesday this year. Thursday was the
first day, so I can't even use that as an
excuse that I was wrapped up with sixteen games because
there was only a few games that day.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
All right, here's what we're gonna do, because I know
you have a show to I'm gonna just throw out
some random topics. I want to just get you to
tell me what you think, and we'll just go sort
of like rapid fighting time. I was a weird one.
I was with a weird one. But it's up your alley.
Have you ever interviewed on the fan or on Sirius
X Bob Yuker. Yes, so you know they made a
big deal about him on opening day this week in
(26:02):
Milwaukee because I think he's ninety ninety and he's a
guy that does not do a lot of interviews at all.
I actually tried to get him on this podcast a
couple of years ago. I emailed the Brewers. They wrote
back in one second, no, and like that was it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I feel like that's a guy, and you're a baseball guy.
So I want your opinion, like, who does not get
the credit for being that iconic local you know, the
Harry Carries, the john Sterlings, the Vin Scullies. He should
be in that category.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Right, That's a very fair point. You know, Bud gave
him the job or in the mid seventies, because remember
he didn't do the you know, they came from Seattle
in nineteen seventies, so this is his forty sixth year,
so I think in seventy seven seventy eight is when
he became the voice of the Brewers. He only does
the home games. He had a great line with their
homeowner two days ago. He said, geez, why the hell
(26:52):
were you when I was in my playing days? The ovation,
which is perfect. Yu care. I went to a Joe
torrid A one year the Safe at Home and Uker
was the guy in Costas and Uker did sort of
a one on one together. It was unbelievably funny. I mean,
he's very funny. I've had him on high heat. I
(27:13):
have not had him on the radio. I've had him
on a high heat two or three times. He's very funny.
He does the home games, the Blors. You know, he's
a ninety years old, he's in excellent shape. You know,
he missed the Belvedere. I don't know how many years
he did that, but he did that for a lot
of years. Correct, He did them. A lot of the
baseball game he did, did the Baseball Network stuff, he
(27:34):
did plenty of that. He did World Series games.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yep. Big talk show guy in the eighties too. Johnny
Carson all yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yes, yes, yes, good job he did. He did. He
must have done a million Carsons. Yeah, that's a very
good point. I don't know how many were gonna look
it up. He gotta go on Carson twenty twenty five
times with twin a guy. Course HI would like because
he's so funny. He's funny. Yes, I did see that.
I'm a big Yuka fan, had him on a couple
of times on high.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Heat NCAA tournament. You know, it strikes you know, I
feel this how you sort of about CBS with the NFL,
but it strikes me during the tournament. CBS is their
roster of play by play people is pretty great. Iron
I mean, they had dance iron I know you don't
like them, but you're wrong. Harlan Catalan is outstanding, very good.
(28:22):
Even Brad Nessler Spiro. Like you watch those games.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Worry about the announcers being bad like they have from
top to bottom, they are great.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I'll give you two. First off, that go ahead Nessler
Hayward thing was a much is you know they had
those two games oh by themselves that day because they
were in Salt Lake City and they were the twelve
fifteen and the two twenty five. They had those two
games that would have been they did Dayton in Arizona
and the other game was Gonzaga Kansas, and they did
(28:54):
an excellent job of those two. I agree with you,
And I'll tell you Sam van Gundy's great, Yes, yes,
he is great. I mean and he makes Bonner, him
and Bonno work well together. Hallan's with that crew. Stan
Is he's great, he really is great. But you're right,
Lapis is good. I mean they got a lot of
good teams. And Iron is fit like a glove. He's
(29:16):
been right in there. He's had him and back. They've
done a great job. It's an excellent they get. There's
excellent depth there.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Everyone likes to say no one watches the games for
the announcers. I can tell you I'm leaving the game
on longer when it's Iron and Raftery. I mean, they
are so good it's not even funny.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
They worked. They've done a lot of games together with
the old nets. Raft is so easy, he's like an
old shoe. I mean, he's so good. And iron Is
he's excellent with this, I know. And it's funny. Catalan
and Lapis had the best brackets, you know they had.
They had the Pittsburgh brackets early, which meant that they
had Kentucky losing, and they had the Oregon Quayton double overtime,
(29:57):
and they had NC State and Oakland o time, and
then they had the bracket in I in Detroit and
they had the Purdue can't Purdue the Tennessee game, so
they really had and Tennessee Creighton, so they actually sometimes
it's lucky if you get the good games. I ain't
got lousy games. I and did not get good games. Right,
(30:18):
Duke killing he got.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Killed, Yukhon killing someone in the first round, I mean
he got killed.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
James Madison by forty points. They did not get and
the North kill on a state dude game was not
a good game. They have not gotten the great games.
A lot of it is if you're in the right
bracket where that happened to be, where the good games are.
But you're right good depth all the way around. I'll
with you. So they're going to be hurt this weekend
because the games are on CBS. You know this better
than me. Thirty percent of their audients on TV is
(30:44):
a thirty percent? Is that about the right number.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And here's the thing too, I think you can get
away with a small dip if you go from CBS
to ESPN. You know, we just saw the women with
the twelve point three million TBS. It's different. No one
thinks of TBS as a as a college basketball network.
They show no games at all during the regular season.
When you think college basketball, TBS is not in your
brain at all. Plus, you know again the people who
(31:10):
with thirty five and under, nobody is cable, so you
need the TBS app to stream it. It's not like,
here's the thing. If you're under thirty five, everybody has
the ESPN app to go stream it. You have paramount
to stream the TBS. It's not interesting on that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Level interesting interesting. Yeah, So they will not do as
well this weekend. And I'll tell you right now, if
they get a Yukon Perdue game, that's a great championship game. Yeah,
you got the defending champ. People know who Yukon is.
They won five titles for do out of the Big
ten and I got that is a very good final
(31:49):
on Monday night. Now watch them get NC State Alabama.
But that that's a very good final.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's NC State Alabama on TBS. That could be ugly.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's a tough point.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I have a little bone to pick with you. I
was upset on Wednesday's first take that you didn't stay
around for the Cody Roads interview. And I'm gonna tell
you why. I know you're not a wrestling guy. I
know you're not a wrestling guy. I get. But here's why.
But let me tell you something. Anytime they have a
wrestler on, you should stay for the interview and I'll
tell you why. You know how you are obsessed with
(32:23):
people's travel schedules. Ask one of these guys about their
travel schedule their home. They're only home in their houses
one day a week. Basically they do shows that.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
They're bouncing around that much. Huh.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
They will have better travel stories for you than any athlete.
You can imagine. They're in you know, Houston one night,
North Carolina the next night, Madison Square Garden. I mean
it's you know, they fly overseas. So I was I
meant to. I was gonna even give your heads up
when I heard that guy was going to be on.
(32:57):
Anytime those guys are on, ask them about their you
will be blown away.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Wow, fascinating. And that was that was they said, Chris,
you do you want? You want to stay? I said,
you know what, I don't know that much about it.
Steven's into it. Let me leave. And if I would
have known that beforehand, I would have stayed. That was
a christ can out of ESPN.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Go ahead, so you won't be locked into Seth Rollins
and Cody Rhodes versus Romans and the Rock.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
What is that this weekend? Right? Yees? Saturday?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
It got so big they do it two nights. Now
they do it Saturday and Sunday. They do night at
Lincoln Stadium in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
By the way, I haven't had him on yet. I'm
reading a good book, Real Hoosiers. It's said Jack McCallum
wrote it Oscar Oscar robertson mid fifties high school Indianapolis,
and he did a chapter on the Hoosier myths with
(33:52):
the movie Would you like me to give you one?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Sure? Because I don't like that movie. I'm like the
only person.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oh you don't like that movie?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's I here's the thing. Hoosia's rudy when they go
over with the hokiness, the over the top is sol.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I love who Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Anyway, everyone does. I know I'm in the minority.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'll give you one that's interesting. Normandale played by Hackman,
great movie Normandale. The real Normandale was twenty four years old.
Really Hackman was what in the movie. He was a
redemption cook. She got thrown out. He was fifty years old, right, right, right, right,
twenty four years old.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's that's that's taking too many liberties.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
That's some taking some liberties.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yet, will you lend that book to JJ Reddick, a
book on Oscar Robinson.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I'm going to tell you something that's interesting. I lent
the book. I told Dominic Foxworth. First take. He's a
very smart guy. Yeah, he texts. I gave him a
Lombardi book, read it, loved it. He had, you know,
the Great Lombardi Book by Marenis. Yeah. Yeah, So he
asked me about two weeks ago and he said, you got
(34:59):
a book for me, and said, I haven't read it yet,
but I guarantee you to do a great job. Read
the real Hoosiers. Get that. He gets on his phone.
He orders it on Amazon. I'm in the Caribbean. It came
out March fifth. I'm in the Caribbean. He texts me,
what a core this is the this is an unbelievable book.
(35:20):
So I gave the book the Foxworth. He lots a
book he's not going to you know, necessarily it's basketball
and he loves it. Hey, it knocksh over the head
with racism, as it should. So you got to get
you got to you know Ku klux plan basketball in Indianapolis.
You know his point is this, Indiana is not a
(35:41):
northern state and it's not a southern state.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It's kind of in the middle, right, right, right, So
when it goes back to Magic and Bird in their relationship, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Saw, it's a lot. And you know they didn't let
the black teams play in the Indiana State tournament to
nineteen forty four, right, things like that. It's very good. Anyway,
I just made out the fact food out there is
adam as you know.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I got it. Jack is great. Jack is great. I
know you talked about on your show. Did you finish?
Did you watch the whole Patriots thing on Apple?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got three to go?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It's amazing the backlash, like, what don't you like about it?
I didn't watch it because I thought it was going
to be ten episodes of just the Patriots are great.
But everything I'm reading is everyone's saying it's all negative.
They killed Belichick the whole way. Now I didn't, So
can you explain this to me? Just explain one thing
(36:35):
to me. How do you win eight million Super Bowls
and you're killing the coach?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, they killing a coach, John a variety they kill
him with with Spygate. Basically, Jonathan Kraft goes on there
and says that Bill did not want to cut Aaron
Hernandez when he was arrested for murder before they're going
to get a whole room with the Brady thing. I
haven't gotten to that part yet, but Ray gets, you know,
(37:00):
to basically, you know, he wipes his hands of the Flakegate,
so they get on him for that, and you know,
and Belichick doesn't help himself. He's on camera half the
things he doesn't even comment on, so that makes it
very very difficult.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
He won a million super Bowls for them.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I listen. I think he's a great coach too. I
would say this, if you were Belicheck and you watched it,
you would not be happy.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Right, And that's and the guy, and the guy won
all those super Bowls for that organization.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
And you know, Bledsoe is on him because he didn't
give him his job back after he got hurt with
Demo Lewis hit. That's in there too, is the right
Corbette Betticheck. Of course that's in there too. They won
a super Bowl that year, so there's a lot of
little things like that. I can see if you're crafted.
I guess. He was quoted at the owner's meeting saying
(37:48):
that he thought it was very negative. Yeah, but if
you make it so positive, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
They also had Devin mccordy and Rodney Harrison say they
spoke for hours and only pulled the negative stuff and
didn't use any of the positive stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I did see that. I did see the huts. I
did see the quotes Brady see people. I could see
I could see a person in antient land wanting more
of a loving portrayal, and it's a little bit more
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I agree with that Brady will be great on Fox
when the NFL will be because I listened to him
on that serious XM show Jim Gray. He's going to
give you stuff you don't get from other analysts. He's
gonna be good, I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You, is going to be a quarterback who's playing port it.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh yeah, he was killing the quarterbacks this year. You
know that's what really. So, there was something that happened
where a receiver got hurt on a pass where you know,
the pass was way ahead of the receiver. He lays
out to catch it dB comes and knocks the receiver
into next Tuesday, and Brady ripped the quarterback and said,
(38:51):
the quarterbacks not learning how to throw where you protect
your receivers, and I get your receivers hurt?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
He will.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I'm telling you people are gonna be surprised by.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Brady is going to be with Joe Davis?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Is that the deal as of now? I don't know
how long that's gonna last, because he's he wants to
be a number one guy, number one job.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Where is he going to go to be the number
one guy? You can't go to c almost there forever
Aikman's going nowhere. I mean he wants to go to
Amazon and replace herb Street. Where is he going to
go to be the number one guy?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I think the only option may be is NBC at
some point because they already they already blew out Al.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
He's not doing the games next year on Amazon?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
No, No, I'm NBCB They got rid of Al. So
maybe now they go completely fresh booth in any year.
Because I think if you take all the analysts, the
oldest one I think is Olsen. I mean it's Consworth.
Is Consworth.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Consworth can't last there forever with NBC. I don't know
if they believe Garrett Jason Garrett is the heir of.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Parents, not if you can get Greg Olsen.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, I mean maybe that is possible. And now I
don't know what the cons. I don't think cons was
quitting anytime soon? Is he?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I don't think so either, But I think when that
contract is up, if Greg Olsen, because I'm Greg Olsen,
hasn't out that he can leave if he can be
a number one broadcaster somewhere.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So, like you said, can't go to CBS, Romos is
there for Maybe maybe Herbstreek gets tired at two games
a week and he stops doing Amazon and.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That's I mean, Amazon, that's not what you want to
do if you're him. I'm just not on Thursday nights.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
No, all right, let's end it with this. I assume
you're not a curb your enthusiasm watching how many? How
many people hit you up about Springsteen?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh? On that show a lot? Eddie Erickson, our producer,
did too. Yes, I am not a cur I just
don't watch it. So I'm I sound like I'm not
a fan. I just I just really have never gotten
But I heard he was excellent on there.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
He was beyond excellent. He was in what I think
was the Ask Gatty. I think that was the greatest
scene of this season.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Eddie's acknowledging you right.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
So you had banter between Larry and Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And Bruce is play himself right, yes.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yes, Larry. Larry says to him, can I call you Boss?
In the scene, so there's great banter. So the setup
of the scene is Larry was in a restaurant. It
had an A rating and while he's eating there, they
switched it to a C rating and he's telling Springsteen
about it, and Springsteen's like, I would eat in a
B restaurant and Bruce is like, the boss was eating
(41:30):
a bway, Can I call you Boss? And Springsteen was funny.
Then someone comes into the scene who worked who this
is in the show. He worked with Larry on Seinfeld,
but he he transitioned. When he was at Seinfeld, him
and Larry were having relations when he was a woman.
Now he's a man. And Bruce is there for that
(41:51):
whole banter. And then you have Jeff and the wife
who's always yelling at Larry picking on Larry with Bruce
Bruce was. He was in two big scenes, probably had
about I tell you he had eight to ten minutes total.
Larry gives Bruce COVID and then COVID and then Bruce
has to cancel shows. That's part of the storyline.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Oh yeah, I did hear his excellent. I did not
see it. I'm into the Manhunt series right now on
Apple Plus, but I did not see that. But Eddie
did tell me he was excellent on a show.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Even if you don't watch Curb, it's a half hour
you could watch as a standalone, and you should watch
it just to see how natural Bruce. Bruce was hilarious. Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Eddie said the same thing as the first thing.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Eddie said, all right, I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
One thing is yes, podcast is back back up and running.
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Back up and running and we are approaching episode number
five hundred in a couple of months.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Wow, pretty good for you. I like to try to.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I like to I want to get Brady, That's who
I'm trying to get.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't see what you gotta talk to Jim Gray
about it.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
I mean, I can't have Jim Gray say to Tom, Tom,
can you go on with this guy, you know, but
I mean.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
He can get you a number to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I have a person. I have a person. I have
a person. Can you help me with Barkley? Which is
Barkley King?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Not after he announced his retirement.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I did. He did so many interviews I did not
get him. I give you I had three. I had
three guests in twenty twenty three for the first time
who I never had on, Barkley, McAfee and Bill Simmons.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
That's three good ones.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah. So from the sports world, I'm not sure who
I haven't had on that. Like, I think, you know,
Brady's going to be the No. One analyst for Fox.
He's the guy to get on.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
That's a very good you get Brady. That's a home run, right,
That's a home run I never had. I never had
him on radio.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, well you know what wants but not here. What
really made me want to get him was when he
did like that three hour interview during COVID on Howard,
which was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, excellent spot. Excellent spot. I'm trying to think, if uh,
the NBA is coming up, you can do some NBA stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, I've had I've had you known have you had
read it? Gun, No, I've tried, but JJ has not
come through yet.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
How about Doris Burt Doris, I've.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Had on, I'll have hor on again. I've had her on. Breen,
I've had on.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Okay, Yeah, it's great to have you back in the mix.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Jimmy, Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I'm very lucky,
only only missed one week. But like you know, like
I said, we said at the top, boy, you want
to get something happens. You just want to get out there.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
And yeah, yeah, you want to get your If you're
a good broadcaster and you're a good sports guy, you
want to get your opinions out there.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
I do it on Twitter. But here's the thing. If
you do it on Twitter, you always have someone coming
back and disagreeing with you. If I write it in
my column, it's it's I put it out there and
I don't have to deal with any of it.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
You didn't have to deal with the nsayers I posted.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
I posted Sterling's home run call for Alex Dugo Yet yesterday, Oh.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I was good. I didn't hear it.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
It wasn't great. He did, Alex, Alex the great.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
He's done that before with a rod.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
That was an a bomb for it. But right someone
wrote back right away, like Sterling's terrible. I can't believe
you think he's the good You know, I don't. I'm
not playing that game.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I heard him. I heard him with the Sodo stuff
when Soto got big hits. He was funny with Sodo.
You know he all of a sudden, John Sterling is
he was in the other league. All of a sudden,
John Sterling has discovered Juan Soto, and for the first
time he realizes, Wow, this guy is great. He like
he's like John He won a World's championship. For crying
(45:41):
out loud.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It's hard to pay attention to every team if if
you're that's true. You know Susan knows the other teams
because you hear her break it down to a game.
Susan knows the other.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Time she does the one before the game. She goes
down and talks to the players and the managers and
all those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
But I like any Sterling home run call where he sings.
So we got a little singing with once.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
So he did. He did make this first roadship. He
went to Houston and Phoenix in Arizona. I know, Houston
and Arizona. He's not gonna go. He doesn't go on
all the road trips.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I know.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I don't like I don't like losing the you know,
I don't like these guys slowing down. It's like you,
you gotta stay serious for That's the other thing, you know,
going back, how about rafter he doing all these games.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
He's eighty, he.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Has lost nothing.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I agree, he's he's he's still very I mean he's
on forty years.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Have you had him on by the way, I don't know.
I had him on way before we did it on zoom.
I had him on once. It's very hard to get ready.
Well that's it, you know, with doing them on zoom.
Sometimes some of the older people, you know, I don't
want to sound like an agist, but you know, they
don't might know that, might not know.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
That's why Jenny up here to set up the zoom
for me, because I would not.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Have you're a mess. You're give me. Have you had
any we have a Have you had a technological disaster recently?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Have I any? Oh? Yes? Apple play in my car?
I used BMW. I couldn't get the damn Apple thing.
To work. I was so bad when the clock changed,
I couldn't even get the clock work. And on day
on daylight Savings said Eddie, gonna help me here, and
(47:22):
so Eddie came up one day finally fixed the glitches
of the car play and any by the way, it's
been working well lately. Annie fixed the time in the
right hand corner because I didn't know how to move
the clock. So that was my technological disaster. In the
last couple of days weeks. I was so frustrated that
(47:44):
I could I was listening to my music on my phone,
which is not the same. I finally got the damn
thing fixed.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Is Eddie writing? Is Eddie writing a book? Your biggest
fear in life?
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Eddie? Are you writing a book? No? Eddy? You know
Eddie is still you know, he's been with me now
about what ten years, Eddie, but with me fen ten years.
It was with Mike before that. Eddie's had a big
career and so he's always been close to Mike, and
now he's close to me. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
So if you're if you're home nine o'clock at night
and you need to find a channel, or the satellite's
not working or something.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Life, or if one of my kids is home.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Then Eddie, Eddie's third.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
It's hard for me to call Eddie when he's in
Massapequa and I'm up here to direct me to how
to use the remote I have in the past, but
that never seems to work. So I get Jeanie to
help me get my daughter's home right now, and so
Kira will help me. Patchrick's pretty good at it when
(48:44):
he's home, but I struggle with it. There's no question
about it.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Are you out of the doghouse with Genie from when
you made fun of her with the Super Bowl boxes?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yes? That was that was it. That was funny. That
was a good one. I did that on first take.
I bet with my what a week ahead? Yeah, yeah,
I got. I got out of the dog house with that.
H Yeah. She's been pretty good she I've been okay
with her, been good.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Shit, you told her the game ends, you told her
the super Bowl ends and a tie?
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, you know. I'm going to the Masters next week.
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I saw. Yeah, I heard that. But you're not doing shows?
Are you not allowed to do shows from there?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I mean I haven't even looked into it. But if
you go to the If you go to Augusta for
the first time, they want to be run around. Funding
on radio station three dis body afternoon. Let me enjoy
the experience for twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Well, you'll have great stories when you come back that
I'm looking forward to. Yeah, yes, that'll be good. Thanks,
all right, well, I appreciate it. Enjoying the Masters Sirius
XM Monday through Friday three to six Eastern First Take
on Wednesdays and Monday through Friday, MLB Network High he
Christopher mad Dog Russo. Thanks, Doggie, you got it dead,
Jim all right, take it easy, see you, buddy. All right,
(49:52):
My many many thanks to Christopher mad Dog Russo. Appreciate
him coming on. Appreciate you guys for sticking with me
and listening. And if you missed any re episodes. We
were off last week, but two weeks ago we had
Brian Curtis from The Ringer. On three weeks ago, Dan
Rolovski from ESPN, Bob Lee from ESPN. All recent guests
on SI Media with Jimmy Trainer. So subscribe to the
podcast dip into archives, give those a listen. If you
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