August 1, 2022 • 39 mins
Monday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, we expect to FINALLY have discipline handed down to Deshaun Watson. The guys remember the late-great Bill Russell. Deebo Samuel gets paid but how will he be used in Shanahan’s offense? Robbie Anderson explains the change to the spelling of his name. Orlando Brown will “reportedly report” to camp and much more.
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What is the suspension going to look like for Deshaun Watson.
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Happy Monday, Yeah, Happy to Shawn Watson. Something. How bad?
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Are we sure? Yeah, we're positive, pretty sure. The report
so Judge Robinson, Sue l Robinson, she is informed everybody
involved that she's going to make her decision on the
punishment at some point today. Yes, alright, we don't know
when that business day. Yeah, she's she's told everybody. And
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then it was Josina Anderson who reported at first, and
the neothers the reporting. What's wrong, Josina nothing, she's on
it right, Yeah, she's good, be good, CBS Sports HQ,
Josina Anderson. I don't know if you knew that or not, Brady.
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That's where you know when I think you know that's
that good? Now? I don't know, man. So this is
what that's not a little that's not a shot against
Joe Cina. I'm just saying if Joe Cina got instead
of like Ian Rapp report or or Adam Schefter, Adam Schefter, like,
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this could be hitting the time changing, This could be
trending in the wrong direction, is what I'll say. Yeah.
So there's also Tony Buzby uh As reportedly as told
ESPN that Deshaun Watson has settled three of the final
four lawsuits or the or the settlement is coming. So
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there's one outstanding, but all but that one have been settled.
And he's playing like he's playing. He's playing. I'll put
it this way. I think if Joe Cina Anderson has it,
Deshaun Watson's camp has heard what it's going to be,
and they're they're preparing everything, the wrapping it all up,
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and I think it's gonna be four to six games,
I really do. I think that's gonna be very minimal
compared to what the NFL wants, which again there side
is still able to appeal the verdict and they can
go back to Roger Goodell, which is part of a
which was done in an appeals process. So the interesting
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thing about it is I think all parties want to
be done with. They both said they're not appealing, and
I think Watson side either the well the Players Association
and Deshaun Watson have said that the NFL hasn't necessarily
said that they don't get out there now. It was
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the p A and Watson who have publicly stated that
the NFL They've said it previously, but that only leads
me to this. Going back to the initial thing, is
the NFL wanted to come out and leak it that
they wanted a year suspension, knowing that they weren't going
to get it, and knowing that they need one of
their you know, the bigger brands names at quarterback on
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the field. That's my conspiracy theory to all of this,
and they've kind of wiped their hands of it. I
mean I would one percent agree, and not only do
they need it, but think about the boost and I
one of the weirdest phenomenons I'm gonna tell you want
to wearest phenomenons that exists out of him having twos therapists.
I mean, that's a that's an anomaly. That's a whole
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lot of hands. That's a whole lot of terms. Listen.
So the thing I was watching, and and just take
this for what it's word, I was watching a documentary
on Netflix, right, and it was the night stalker Um
document And when he was going to court, when he
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was in court, the dude had a cheering gallery, like
like he was like a superstar, Like me, next, me next,
like me next, Like you do know the dude is
a serial killer? Right? Like you do know he'll kill you?
You are realizing that, right, And he had a fan
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club for like days down there that like days like,
oh my gosh, he's so dreamy. For some strange reason,
there's a phenomenon with certain certain parts of of of
our people that enjoy weird ass people. So whether whether
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you fall on the side of he was never found
guilty of anything, I'm moving on from it. I'm a
chair for him, or you're like, he's a celebrity now
because he's a serial get massages. He's a serial massage
therapy a term I don't know, but it's like, it's
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the wildest thing is he's going to be a bigger
celebrity now. He's gonna get he's gonna get harassed, and
he's gonna get heckled big time. But for all the heckling,
he's almost like gonna become a superstar off of this.
And I'd be honest with you if if he wins,
if they win, like I was thinking about, like what
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would be a comparable scenario too, if he wins, Right,
is Ray lewis comparable? I don't tell me why. I
think I think it's kind of comparable. I don't think
so because it wasn't his, it wasn't his publicize Ray Lewis.
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Ray Lewis was published that and I know it was
it was size, But I think I don't know that
to your point, like anyone is comparable, because this has
gone on for so long and it's I mean literally
everyone at some point has probably heard about it. Like
if I don't think if you asked a lot of
people about ray Lewis right now, especially like the female demographic,
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they might be like, oh wait, what happened? They wouldn't know,
But think about no, no, no, I get that. Yeah,
it's not about the timing of it. It's just about
the duration and the fact that there's like all sorts
of the people that have heard about it because it's
drug on forever, and even like guys are talking about
around their wives because they're like, yeah, how would how
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would they handle this? Howl the girlfriend? How should the
girlfriend handle this? Like it's just been more of a
I think a topic of conversation that I don't think
you can compare anything to it, honestly. I mean, it
might be its own phenomenon, but I was just thinking,
what would be the closest thing. You're sitting there, You're like, man,
what a bright star? And this could be the end,
I started thinking, right like, it's like, man, you're you're down,
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like they they're showing you in a jumpsuit like that.
There's all kinds of you know, things circulating around about
what what could happen, what it could be boom, next thing,
you know, he's coming into the very next season and
he wins the super Bowl and he's the super Bowl
MVP and and everything is like back to normal, you
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know what I mean? Like if if you could imagine
even if this is of a larger magnitude in terms
of what it has represented in terms of the coverage
in the amount of time, because coverage is much different
now than what it was if he were to go
if he were to make it to the super Bowl,
I think that I think that he's is something different.
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Let alone, if he were to win, say he were
to win the super Bowl and get m v P.
Are people here, are people gonna Are they gonna still
be on this? You know he's a villain type of
deal or does some people some people will never get
over And that's the same thing with right, there's some
people that will never get over that. Michael Vick is
another one. When he got his second hundred million dollar contract.
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There were people that were still piste off and probably
are are still upset about what happened with the dog fighting.
People will demonstrate over to Shaun Watson. Do you think
that there would be demonstrators like there were for Mike Vick. Well, yeah,
I mean some girl glued herself to the Florida basketball game.
People will demonstrate over anything with with Elmer's Yeah not
it wasn't he and crazy glue like she doesn't, Yeah,
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it wasn't, she doesn't. It wasn't commercials. It wasn't the
type of bonding that we're really looking for what we're
doing our utility. If she would have went all in
like to and that's a different deal, gorilla glue. We
need like something that like l A County uses on
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the other seers. That's sort of like you saw her
to be able to get her off. That is a demonstration.
That's a demonstration. Yes. Wait, so real quick, we go
back over the rail Lewis, because it has been some time.
So that whole incident happened at a Super Bowl party
correct the year before they won, and he became m
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v P right, which is like that's the crazy part
It's like a year later, a year later, some of
those dudes might have been around him. He's like, hey man,
rememb a year from now, a year later. Like I mean,
I'm just saying, like you can only imagine it was
the a f C. North. I mean, there are some
simularities there. I'm just saying, if Deshaun Watson balls the
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hell out after he gets this four game suspension to
six games, if he balls out and they go to
the playoffs, I think he's already done that. Sorry, Okay,
let's keep going. Eleven minutes and made eleven minutes and
Tan that's what got him this contract, you know, because
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what the contract just balls out? I mean, I mean,
I'm falling out. It's not what I meant. You're a
class act. You are. That one was. It was great,
but it was low by the way. That was a
low blow. Can we get above the way? So one
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of the things that I saw that was thrown out
there is that he's been getting kind of you know,
I'm pleasing, been getting a pleasant applause from fans at
Brown's training camp, like they've been, you know, excited to
see him out there and all this. And one thing
I don't want to hear from anybody is at their
fan base is saying, Wow, not a real classy of
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the Browns to cheer on a guy who's got this
is his track record. Let me tell you something. The
Falcons tried to trade form the Panthers tried to trade
for him. There were a lot of teams out there,
the Saints, there were a lot of teams out there
that were kicking the tires on this. And had had
Carolina offered him two more years of guaranteed money, he'd
probably go there. He was already thought to be going
to the Atlanta Falcons. Still Cleveland jumped in. There's gonna
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be fan bases and a lot of people are gonna
criticize Browns fans for cheering the guy. They're all hypocrites.
They would do the exact same thing he was on
their team. You know, I think people is it is
it crazy to think that people are going to rally
like there's going to be celebrities, Like I'm already in
my mind thinking about one person and I ain't gonna
say it out. I think people are going to rally
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around him. I think people are going to like say
justice for the shot. I mean, I don't know. I
don't know what it's gonna look like Bob Craft two
times time? Why around? I don't know, But I just
get this weird feeling as soon as the punishment comes down.
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If it's a four game, the six game punishment that
is minimum. So now you're minimizing what possibly you know, something,
something was, something happened, but you're minimizing the severity of
what it could possibly be and what it could possibly represent.
I think people are going to rally around. I think
some people are going to come out and whether it's
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in social media or whatever it may be, and at
some point people are going to rally around him, and
it's gonna be somebody of of stature. Is going to
be people of stature that do it. Watch what I
tell you. I wonder if I wonder if this decision
will be controversial in this aspect, Like it is a
woman who's making this decision, this verdict that apparently both
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sides are going to abide by. I do wonder if
there's a sense of her people feeling her as she
should punish him harder for this. But don't you think
that's it goes back to your original point, right, like that,
or the NFL wants a a harsher penalty, but do
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they really like, Okay, put it out here, we want
a harsher penalty. We gotta them an arbitrator. But that
doesn't mean that Silla sue Ll Robinson doesn't have to
live with this decision for the rest of her life.
Right now, she now she's seen all the information and
a good amount of evidence that she's only seeing five,
I believe, of the of the alleged you know, victims here.
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So that's the tough part is is in some somewhere
in her mind she's got to come to peace with
the punishment that she's putting out there for the SEAN.
And then I think also there's the fact that, as
Jonas just pointed out, all but one now have settled
their lawsuits. So there's probably that part of her too
that's like, well, they're getting compensated for whatever issues they've
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been through, whatever place they're handling that in the legal realm.
She's not even in the legal realm. She's an internal arbitrator.
Well yeah, I mean, well, I don't internal. I mean
she she's an arbitrt like independent, yea, she's independent, but
she's internal, well she's paid by the NFL, which is
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what makes it seem like that. But yeah, I've been
here before. States though they're trying to keep one degree
of separate. Of course, of course, I'll tell you this,
For as long as this is dragged out, I think
people just wanted to be over I think people more
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so wanted to be over with so so people could
stop talking about it, more so than be out rage.
I think this is one of those unique situations where
it's drawn out so far and nobody has found the body.
There's no bodies. There's no bodies here, like it's just
all allegations. And there's allegations, right, there's maybe one body,
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a lot of hands. But I'm just saying, I'm just
saying I think I'm not so sure that this turns
into one of those outrage moments. I think it's a decision,
the decision is made, and people move on from it.
I'm not certain that this is one of those people
are going to march and protest and go crazy over it.
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And and Deshaun Watson is a monster, And because if
that were the case, I almost feel like that would
have been a build up already. We would have already
felt unrest as it applied to how these women were treated,
what took place. It doesn't seem like there's a crazy
amount of outrage that's connected to this. I think we're
also all probably a little desensitized to the whole thing
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because when we talk about the numbers, like those are
human beings attached to the number, and and we're just
we threw out these well, you know, it was ten,
that it was twenty two, that it was twenty four,
that it was six, that's sixties something different. People like
all of the and he's, well, he's just got one
that he's got to settle with one more person after
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he settled what twenty three now of these kids, like,
it's just the numbers. So during the course of this
whole thing, I think we've all grown a little desensitized
to the to the subject and to the numbers that
are out there, because it's one of the crazier stories
that we've ever seen. Like, there's gonna be documentaries done
about this, there's gonna be what's it going to be called? Uh,
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about last segment? Is that last segment? Saying all right,
(18:14):
it's a segment though, Yeah, you should have played that
coming into that that first segment. Yeah, get over it. Iowa,
Sam's got a Yeah, he's got a red ass. That
is true. Puffy bottom. Uh, it is two pros and
a cup of Joe. Here. Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington,
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So we are going to get into this, uh this
massive contract. Right when a black mass is red ass,
it's kind of weird. Why it just sounds weird to me? Well,
what else would you call it? Puffy bottom? That sounds weird. Yeah,
I know, but it sounds a little better than me
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saying the red ass, because I would never have the
red ass, right, Well, mean, it's a figure speech. How
would we know that? Well, that's what that's But what
I'm saying is literally if you could know, how would
you know? Right? Like if I wasn't here, but if
I was beer but out and I was like, yeah,
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I got the red ass, and y'all looked at me,
I'll be like, but it's still brown. Like I'm just saying, yeah,
we won't repeat that on the air. Ly, thank you.
That is not interested. Every everybody's got de Sean today.
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You're a class act. Um. I just wanted to make
sure I was clear on why I say puffy bottom
all the time, because I'm sure people are like, why
does LaVar always say puffy bottom? That's because I try
to make it relevant, you know, That's all. Yeah, but
you guys are right. I mean, I wouldn't want you
to know I had the red ass. Well, how would
you know you're right? So there you go. I agree
with that too. Yeah, Okay, I just know, I just
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think it. But I do want to mention this, um obviously,
the great Bill Russell who passed away yesterday. That guy's
that's a resume you'll never see ever again. Like you
talk about winners, and you talk about success and all
his credentials and and everything he did not only on
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the core but off the court, like one of the
great great players of all time. And you can't find anybody, yeah,
who who can say a bad thing about him, which
is rare these days. And um, I just remember my dad,
because and my dad are about the same age, and
him telling me growing up about the great Bill Russell
and those Celtics teams and what he did National champion,
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gold medalist, eleven titles in thirteen seasons as a player.
Crazy to see to see what he's done. So just
a great life for a great dude, all of rom
all accounts and Bill Russell awesome resume, um, through and through.
So I'd leave your mark. That's all you can hope
to do. Man, do something significant in your life where
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you leave a mark, you know, that's and that's what
he did, So one of the great to do it.
And again, like I said, he he he was an activist,
so he he did a lot of things that were
human humanly uh, you know, kind of focused. That's what
I'm looking for. Yeah, I mean, he just he did
a lot of things to help others, like very selfless
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person man. So he'll be missed. I never got a
chance to meet him. I've seen him. I've seen him
in person once before, but never never met him, and
so as one of those things. But um, but like
you said, all accounts given me. You know, he he
is widely revered and and respected and admired. So I'm
sure that would be quite a memorial service that that ensues. Yeah. Um.
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You guys, ever, like in your time running uh in
NFL circles or being at some of these functions or gatherings,
are there people in the NFL world that when they
walk in the room, everybody just sort of says, hey,
that's the guy. Yeah, Like because Bill Russell seemed like
that guy for for the NBA whenever he was around
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right there, it doesn't matter like who's who, Like whether
it's Charles Barkley or or Kevin Garnett or like some
of these a great Kobe Bryant Shack all the from
from any era. When Bill Russell walked in the room,
it was a total respect through and through, like that's
the guy, Like who are the who are those players?
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You remember? It was Jim Yeah, I mean he's he's
the he's the oldest of O G s like Bobby
Mitchell's a part of that that group. I mean there's
there's a few, but Jim Brown is like he's the
that's the that's the Bill Russell gold standard of the NFL.
I was so lucky too, because when you get drafted
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the Cleveland and especially back then like an O seven,
like Jim was around all the time. You know, he
was he was like helping out the organization and you know,
I just had had so many opportunities where I got
to talk to him, you know, sit and just have
a conversation with him. That man has such a wealth
of knowledge or wisdom, however you want to phrase it.
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And like as as being a player there and like
undertaking going into the NFL, it could be a lot.
And and he was someone who could really help put
things into perspective for you with his experience, but just
kind of how he sought the world his life experience,
all the things he'd done. Um, you know he is
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he's that guy like he's and and again it's hard
to put in a comparison anyone to to build Russell
on the way he won. Like it's just you know
when you sit there and talking about Jordan's like we're
not old enough to appreciate the battles between Bill Russell
a little Chamberlain, but just to understand, you know, how
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Bill Russell was, how successful he was. So it's hard
like we see Tom Brady were like, oh, it's the goat.
It's like, well, people who lived long enough to see
Bill Russell when all these championships are like, yeah, you
guys are a little too young to remember this. Like
this dude dominated in that fashion too, unlike anything we've
ever seen. So it was it's obviously sad to see
him go, but you know, to bring it full circle,
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I mean, Jim Brown's only when it comes to mind
for me, Yeah, well that's the one. I mean, if
you think about it in terms of activism, in terms
of athletes and what they is Mohammed Ali, it's it's
Bill Russell, It's it's Jim Brown. I mean, I don't
know that there's anyone. I don't know that there's especially
just because of what they represented during the civil rights
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you know movement, during that that moment in time, there
was so many polarizing moments, so many you know, just
people needed to step up, and you would always see
guys like that. And that's why I mentioned Bobby Mitchell,
because Bobby Mitchell was was a face that was in
he He also too was uh Cleveland Brown as well.
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So and a Washington you know football team player. Uh So.
I mean it's you have some you gotta appreciate living
artifacts while they're they're here. And I think when you
lose someone of the magnitude of of a Bill Russell,
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you start to take that into account, like appreciate, appreciate
the people who have done things more than just be
a great athlete, but appreciate the people that have done
things that have impacted our you know, literally our history,
you know. And and Bill Russell was one of those
guys we just mentioned, Jim Brown. I mean there's you know,
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right now, I don't even know just we're in a
time and place I guess you could throw well, I
won't even do that in this moment, but in a
time and place where we are now, it's actually a
a moment in our our culture and in our country
where people could actually be those type of people where
they could be voices of of changed, voices of pulling
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people together, because there's been a lot of separation as
it applies to our country. But guys like Bill Russell
and like we said, Jim Brown, I mean, they they
were beacons of hope. They were they were beacons of direction.
And and that's you know, you obviously hate to lose
somebody of of that that stature because they've always represented
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something that's right. Yeah, two pros and a Cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio coming up in about
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about ten minutes from now in another edition of In
case you missed it, Uh, how about Deebo Samuel getting paid?
One of the other long stories of the NFL offseason
(26:53):
finally gets wrapped up once DK Metcalf got his deal done.
You're waiting to see whether or not Deebo would finally
get his deal done, So no more requesting trades. Yeah, yeah,
it's over. Can you believe it? It's gonna be at
three year deal worth seventy three and a half million
dollars fifty eight point one million in guarantees. Yeah. So
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the wide receiver off season of all off seasons? Where
does that? Um, it's up there. I don't know. They're all, yeah,
it's just money, money, money, money. It's it's up to
par with with DK Metcalf's extension. It looks almost identical
in some ways. I think. I think the hard thing
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about some of these contracts, Like I said, I said
this with DK Metcalf, You're not going to see them
maximize or equate to the value of that deal. It's
just it's hard to when their quarterback situation is really unclear.
I don't know that Seattle knows who they're starting quarterback
is going to become Week one right what, Drew Luck,
You're not I heard Geno Smith is actually winning the
(28:00):
battle right now, is exactly. That's That's why I'm saying
this to you. But whoever it is, they're going to
check it. Whoever it is, they're gonna check. They're gonna
check it downfield, or they're gonna play Pete Carroll ball
and they're just gonna run the football and take a
few shots here there, but play a good defense and
do what I think they feel like they need to win.
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But if you if you look at the San Francisco
for not a situation and Deebo Samuel, I mean, Trey
Lance has ability. We don't know if he'll be able
to be the player they're hoping he's going to be.
I mean, we're we're betting on Kyle Shanahan being able
to put him in a position to succeed and weapons
like George Kittle and Brendan i Yuk around Deebo Samuel
to to help out. But we have no idea and
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so it's it's a great contract. But I think there's
two things that that hurt Deebo Samuel in the future
is the development of Trey Lance and what he becomes
as a quarterback. But even more so than that, I
don't know when we said this earlier this spring, he's
gonna find himself in a situation where they're gonna run
him the way they did last year because the how
bang up they were a running back and really just
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a scenario workout where he's gonna get as made targets
and touches like it is hard to replicate the performance
that he had last year. That could be a career
year that we never see him eclipse ever again in
his career. Well, I'll say I'll say this. I know,
I know Deebo Samuel didn't want to be running back
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in in this offense, But don't you think just based
off of some of the logic of what we're wondering
what trade lands can be now, they had injuries to
the backfield, so they don't They may not need Debo
to that degree in that capacity this year, right, I mean,
let's be clear, you may not need him that way,
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but you might, but you might need to use him
and in different ways because he is one of your
best playmakers on the team outside of what we would
what would be the only other one that you could
say maybe a bigger playmaker than than Deebo is, But
I don't know that I would say that. So I
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think if you're you're looking at it from the standpoint
of how important Deebo Samuel is to this team today,
I think his value is super high. I think it's
super high, and I think this was the right decision.
He may not outplay what the contract represents, but if
you're if you're looking at it from the standpoint of
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you're trying to give trade Lance the best opportunity to
have success because you did bring him in, you are
moving on from Garoppolo. This is a new this is
a new era that you're you're escorting into, you know,
forty Niners football. I think you definitely want to put
him in a position where he's confident and comfortable about
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what his opportunities are coming into the season. So I
think it was the right move to give Deebo Samuel
a deal that makes them happy. My biggest question is
are they going to use him at more positions than
just that receiver's position. Well, now now he's got fifty
eight and something mean and guarantees he probably doesn't care
how they use him. I mean not now, you just
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use me and however you want. I finally gets paid.
That was one of the sticking points for him, by
the way, most importantly South Carolina game Cocks. That's rights.
Are you allowed to say that on radio? Game Cock? Yes, yeah,
of course, yeah, button going on. I can't say that.
I don't know. It's probably what what Lee said in
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you missed this. Mr Robbie Anderson has made some changes
over the off season, one being a change of his
jersey number from number eleven to number three, which is
what he played with in high school. Levins way better.
But he also changed the spelling of his name. It
used to be always spelled with a Y at the
end of Robbie. He has since changed it to I E.
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And he's since revealed why that is simply because it
looks better on paper. So he thinks I would ever
change my name. I was gonna say, Brady, would you
ever go I E instead of the Why? I think
the WI looks better. I mean, truth be told, that's
not really my full real name if I changed anything,
which I'll be honest with you, guys, I did contemplate
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that this off season. You know, once I saw Robby
Anderson change the Y to an I E, I was like,
you know what, man, maybe I should just go to Brandon.
That maybe I should have to make sure everyone calls
me Brandon. But at least that's your name, you know,
at least that's right. That is well, I mean, this
is it's Robbie's name. He's just spelling it different. Well,
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his name is Robert Robert Stephen Anderson. Okay, well then
that's a little different, right, That's Okay, that's a little different.
If Brady wanted to change Brady to an I E.
Because it looks better on paper, then it doesn't matter
because he's not his name. You're not changing your name.
It's a real name. It's a nickname. Basically. Yeah, I'm
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okay with if you change your nickname, just don't change
your real name. Listen, I mean, uh, Braden Brady with
an I E. It all works for me, you know, yeah,
just whatever whatever. You have a nephew name Braden. Yeah,
all right, how about that? Good on it? Like that
multiple Bradens in your laugh about that? I do have
multiple Braden's time or Brady's. Maybe I'll start calling him
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Brady and then that greatness will rub off on him,
you know, you know, there you go great. I mean,
he has a football player, very talented. He's baby though
he's young. Yeah, he's a little kid. Shows talent though,
he shows some some potential. All right, what we got Lee?
What else? What else we got guys? In case you
missed it, Chiefs left tackle Orlando Brown Jr. Has been
a holdout until this, uh until he's gonna be reportedly
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uh reporting to camp tomorrow. That being today Monday, reported
to sign his franchise reporting reportedly reporting, reportedly report what
it is He's gonna reportedly report Brady, He's gonna reported
(36:04):
report to twisting it up. You guys are like wolves man.
Once Lee shows that he's sort of openw you write
this down. I do not write these down, Okay, And
you said you do not write them down late, It's
all good. I feel like least trying to read his handwritting.
(36:29):
That's that's that's where his stuffles happened. Typing it out.
I don't know, you want to get to give it
another shot. I'm sticking with the he's going to reportedly
report to camp and signed his franchise tender. Hey, who's
who's reporting this? By the way, this is the best
part of Yeah. How about that dret better? Yeah. So
(36:52):
you know what's interesting about this, Remember when r G
three's tell all books coming out in August. Here what
we're coming out? Yeah? Here we are in August, and instead,
you know, he doesn't about face and now he's breaking
news on Orlando Brown reporting reportedly reporting to camp, reportedly
reporting to sign that franchise tag. I could dig it.
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By the way, it wasn't our G three also working out.
He wanted to shot in the league. He was running
hurdles and say get at me. Yeah, get at me, Dug,
you might need somebody who could, you know, jump over
hurdles and run fast. Interesting interesting offseason for r G three.
I mean he's blowing up, He's trending upward in the
media world. Man shots out. I'm not a hater of him, honestly,
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I just didn't like the fact that he was doing.
To tell all bo that was all. Yeah, I judged him.
I didn't want to judge him. I I'm I'm not
proud of myself for judging him, but I did. But
at least I'm man enough to admit it. I judged him.
Um what else? We got? What else? League guys? In
case he missed it? One better put a hundred eighty
three dollars and thirty three cents on Tony Finel to
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win the Rocket Mortgage Classic. DraftKings reported this he paid
out at over five thou dolls. All right, I'm shocked
that lead the lap didn't say he spent half the
money to get the Powerball tics that we were supposed
to win. Yeah, but I'm glad you brought that millions. Yeah,
(38:18):
we all threw in money and Lead the Lap spent
half of it on booze at the liquor store instead
of buying the other tickets. And that's the reason why
we didn't win Mega million. And told him twenty dollars
he put on ten. Yeah, that's the key word. Told
me nobody. Only half the people gave me the money. Well,
I mean I don't carry cash. I said I got you.
(38:38):
I'm good for it. So what you're saying is you
didn't have it to do it. Come on you sitting
here overnight and do this work job thing. You had
it to give it. Hey, man, someone's got to buy
the booze around here. Sold us out. I can't even
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Happy Monday, Yeah, Happy to Shawn Watson. Something. How bad?
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Are we sure? Yeah, we're positive, pretty sure. The report
so Judge Robinson, Sue l Robinson, she is informed everybody
involved that she's going to make her decision on the
punishment at some point today. Yes, alright, we don't know
when that business day. Yeah, she's she's told everybody. And
(01:27):
then it was Josina Anderson who reported at first, and
the neothers the reporting. What's wrong, Josina nothing, she's on
it right, Yeah, she's good, be good, CBS Sports HQ,
Josina Anderson. I don't know if you knew that or not, Brady.
(01:47):
That's where you know when I think you know that's
that good? Now? I don't know, man. So this is
what that's not a little that's not a shot against
Joe Cina. I'm just saying if Joe Cina got instead
of like Ian Rapp report or or Adam Schefter, Adam Schefter, like,
(02:09):
this could be hitting the time changing, This could be
trending in the wrong direction, is what I'll say. Yeah.
So there's also Tony Buzby uh As reportedly as told
ESPN that Deshaun Watson has settled three of the final
four lawsuits or the or the settlement is coming. So
(02:29):
there's one outstanding, but all but that one have been settled.
And he's playing like he's playing. He's playing. I'll put
it this way. I think if Joe Cina Anderson has it,
Deshaun Watson's camp has heard what it's going to be,
and they're they're preparing everything, the wrapping it all up,
(02:50):
and I think it's gonna be four to six games,
I really do. I think that's gonna be very minimal
compared to what the NFL wants, which again there side
is still able to appeal the verdict and they can
go back to Roger Goodell, which is part of a
which was done in an appeals process. So the interesting
(03:12):
thing about it is I think all parties want to
be done with. They both said they're not appealing, and
I think Watson side either the well the Players Association
and Deshaun Watson have said that the NFL hasn't necessarily
said that they don't get out there now. It was
(03:32):
the p A and Watson who have publicly stated that
the NFL They've said it previously, but that only leads
me to this. Going back to the initial thing, is
the NFL wanted to come out and leak it that
they wanted a year suspension, knowing that they weren't going
to get it, and knowing that they need one of
their you know, the bigger brands names at quarterback on
(03:55):
the field. That's my conspiracy theory to all of this,
and they've kind of wiped their hands of it. I
mean I would one percent agree, and not only do
they need it, but think about the boost and I
one of the weirdest phenomenons I'm gonna tell you want
to wearest phenomenons that exists out of him having twos therapists.
I mean, that's a that's an anomaly. That's a whole
(04:19):
lot of hands. That's a whole lot of terms. Listen.
So the thing I was watching, and and just take
this for what it's word, I was watching a documentary
on Netflix, right, and it was the night stalker Um
document And when he was going to court, when he
(04:39):
was in court, the dude had a cheering gallery, like
like he was like a superstar, Like me, next, me next,
like me next, Like you do know the dude is
a serial killer? Right? Like you do know he'll kill you?
You are realizing that, right, And he had a fan
(05:00):
club for like days down there that like days like,
oh my gosh, he's so dreamy. For some strange reason,
there's a phenomenon with certain certain parts of of of
our people that enjoy weird ass people. So whether whether
(05:22):
you fall on the side of he was never found
guilty of anything, I'm moving on from it. I'm a
chair for him, or you're like, he's a celebrity now
because he's a serial get massages. He's a serial massage
therapy a term I don't know, but it's like, it's
(05:43):
the wildest thing is he's going to be a bigger
celebrity now. He's gonna get he's gonna get harassed, and
he's gonna get heckled big time. But for all the heckling,
he's almost like gonna become a superstar off of this.
And I'd be honest with you if if he wins,
if they win, like I was thinking about, like what
(06:05):
would be a comparable scenario too, if he wins, Right,
is Ray lewis comparable? I don't tell me why. I
think I think it's kind of comparable. I don't think
so because it wasn't his, it wasn't his publicize Ray Lewis.
(06:26):
Ray Lewis was published that and I know it was
it was size, But I think I don't know that
to your point, like anyone is comparable, because this has
gone on for so long and it's I mean literally
everyone at some point has probably heard about it. Like
if I don't think if you asked a lot of
people about ray Lewis right now, especially like the female demographic,
(06:50):
they might be like, oh wait, what happened? They wouldn't know,
But think about no, no, no, I get that. Yeah,
it's not about the timing of it. It's just about
the duration and the fact that there's like all sorts
of the people that have heard about it because it's
drug on forever, and even like guys are talking about
around their wives because they're like, yeah, how would how
(07:11):
would they handle this? Howl the girlfriend? How should the
girlfriend handle this? Like it's just been more of a
I think a topic of conversation that I don't think
you can compare anything to it, honestly. I mean, it
might be its own phenomenon, but I was just thinking,
what would be the closest thing. You're sitting there, You're like, man,
what a bright star? And this could be the end,
I started thinking, right like, it's like, man, you're you're down,
(07:32):
like they they're showing you in a jumpsuit like that.
There's all kinds of you know, things circulating around about
what what could happen, what it could be boom, next thing,
you know, he's coming into the very next season and
he wins the super Bowl and he's the super Bowl
MVP and and everything is like back to normal, you
(07:52):
know what I mean? Like if if you could imagine
even if this is of a larger magnitude in terms
of what it has represented in terms of the coverage
in the amount of time, because coverage is much different
now than what it was if he were to go
if he were to make it to the super Bowl,
I think that I think that he's is something different.
(08:17):
Let alone, if he were to win, say he were
to win the super Bowl and get m v P.
Are people here, are people gonna Are they gonna still
be on this? You know he's a villain type of
deal or does some people some people will never get
over And that's the same thing with right, there's some
people that will never get over that. Michael Vick is
another one. When he got his second hundred million dollar contract.
(08:40):
There were people that were still piste off and probably
are are still upset about what happened with the dog fighting.
People will demonstrate over to Shaun Watson. Do you think
that there would be demonstrators like there were for Mike Vick. Well, yeah,
I mean some girl glued herself to the Florida basketball game.
People will demonstrate over anything with with Elmer's Yeah not
it wasn't he and crazy glue like she doesn't, Yeah,
(09:02):
it wasn't, she doesn't. It wasn't commercials. It wasn't the
type of bonding that we're really looking for what we're
doing our utility. If she would have went all in
like to and that's a different deal, gorilla glue. We
need like something that like l A County uses on
(09:22):
the other seers. That's sort of like you saw her
to be able to get her off. That is a demonstration.
That's a demonstration. Yes. Wait, so real quick, we go
back over the rail Lewis, because it has been some time.
So that whole incident happened at a Super Bowl party
correct the year before they won, and he became m
(09:45):
v P right, which is like that's the crazy part
It's like a year later, a year later, some of
those dudes might have been around him. He's like, hey man,
rememb a year from now, a year later. Like I mean,
I'm just saying, like you can only imagine it was
the a f C. North. I mean, there are some
simularities there. I'm just saying, if Deshaun Watson balls the
(10:08):
hell out after he gets this four game suspension to
six games, if he balls out and they go to
the playoffs, I think he's already done that. Sorry, Okay,
let's keep going. Eleven minutes and made eleven minutes and
Tan that's what got him this contract, you know, because
(10:29):
what the contract just balls out? I mean, I mean,
I'm falling out. It's not what I meant. You're a
class act. You are. That one was. It was great,
but it was low by the way. That was a
low blow. Can we get above the way? So one
(10:53):
of the things that I saw that was thrown out
there is that he's been getting kind of you know,
I'm pleasing, been getting a pleasant applause from fans at
Brown's training camp, like they've been, you know, excited to
see him out there and all this. And one thing
I don't want to hear from anybody is at their
fan base is saying, Wow, not a real classy of
(11:14):
the Browns to cheer on a guy who's got this
is his track record. Let me tell you something. The
Falcons tried to trade form the Panthers tried to trade
for him. There were a lot of teams out there,
the Saints, there were a lot of teams out there
that were kicking the tires on this. And had had
Carolina offered him two more years of guaranteed money, he'd
probably go there. He was already thought to be going
to the Atlanta Falcons. Still Cleveland jumped in. There's gonna
(11:36):
be fan bases and a lot of people are gonna
criticize Browns fans for cheering the guy. They're all hypocrites.
They would do the exact same thing he was on
their team. You know, I think people is it is
it crazy to think that people are going to rally
like there's going to be celebrities, Like I'm already in
my mind thinking about one person and I ain't gonna
say it out. I think people are going to rally
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around him. I think people are going to like say
justice for the shot. I mean, I don't know. I
don't know what it's gonna look like Bob Craft two
times time? Why around? I don't know, But I just
get this weird feeling as soon as the punishment comes down.
(12:19):
If it's a four game, the six game punishment that
is minimum. So now you're minimizing what possibly you know, something,
something was, something happened, but you're minimizing the severity of
what it could possibly be and what it could possibly represent.
I think people are going to rally around. I think
some people are going to come out and whether it's
(12:41):
in social media or whatever it may be, and at
some point people are going to rally around him, and
it's gonna be somebody of of stature. Is going to
be people of stature that do it. Watch what I
tell you. I wonder if I wonder if this decision
will be controversial in this aspect, Like it is a
woman who's making this decision, this verdict that apparently both
(13:02):
sides are going to abide by. I do wonder if
there's a sense of her people feeling her as she
should punish him harder for this. But don't you think
that's it goes back to your original point, right, like that,
or the NFL wants a a harsher penalty, but do
(13:23):
they really like, Okay, put it out here, we want
a harsher penalty. We gotta them an arbitrator. But that
doesn't mean that Silla sue Ll Robinson doesn't have to
live with this decision for the rest of her life.
Right now, she now she's seen all the information and
a good amount of evidence that she's only seeing five,
I believe, of the of the alleged you know, victims here.
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So that's the tough part is is in some somewhere
in her mind she's got to come to peace with
the punishment that she's putting out there for the SEAN.
And then I think also there's the fact that, as
Jonas just pointed out, all but one now have settled
their lawsuits. So there's probably that part of her too
that's like, well, they're getting compensated for whatever issues they've
(14:08):
been through, whatever place they're handling that in the legal realm.
She's not even in the legal realm. She's an internal arbitrator.
Well yeah, I mean, well, I don't internal. I mean
she she's an arbitrt like independent, yea, she's independent, but
she's internal, well she's paid by the NFL, which is
(14:32):
what makes it seem like that. But yeah, I've been
here before. States though they're trying to keep one degree
of separate. Of course, of course, I'll tell you this,
For as long as this is dragged out, I think
people just wanted to be over I think people more
(14:53):
so wanted to be over with so so people could
stop talking about it, more so than be out rage.
I think this is one of those unique situations where
it's drawn out so far and nobody has found the body.
There's no bodies. There's no bodies here, like it's just
all allegations. And there's allegations, right, there's maybe one body,
(15:18):
a lot of hands. But I'm just saying, I'm just
saying I think I'm not so sure that this turns
into one of those outrage moments. I think it's a decision,
the decision is made, and people move on from it.
I'm not certain that this is one of those people
are going to march and protest and go crazy over it.
(15:39):
And and Deshaun Watson is a monster, And because if
that were the case, I almost feel like that would
have been a build up already. We would have already
felt unrest as it applied to how these women were treated,
what took place. It doesn't seem like there's a crazy
amount of outrage that's connected to this. I think we're
also all probably a little desensitized to the whole thing
(16:02):
because when we talk about the numbers, like those are
human beings attached to the number, and and we're just
we threw out these well, you know, it was ten,
that it was twenty two, that it was twenty four,
that it was six, that's sixties something different. People like
all of the and he's, well, he's just got one
that he's got to settle with one more person after
(16:22):
he settled what twenty three now of these kids, like,
it's just the numbers. So during the course of this
whole thing, I think we've all grown a little desensitized
to the to the subject and to the numbers that
are out there, because it's one of the crazier stories
that we've ever seen. Like, there's gonna be documentaries done
about this, there's gonna be what's it going to be called? Uh,
(16:48):
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about last segment? Is that last segment? Saying all right,
(18:14):
it's a segment though, Yeah, you should have played that
coming into that that first segment. Yeah, get over it. Iowa,
Sam's got a Yeah, he's got a red ass. That
is true. Puffy bottom. Uh, it is two pros and
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So we are going to get into this, uh this
massive contract. Right when a black mass is red ass,
it's kind of weird. Why it just sounds weird to me? Well,
what else would you call it? Puffy bottom? That sounds weird. Yeah,
I know, but it sounds a little better than me
(18:58):
saying the red ass, because I would never have the
red ass, right, Well, mean, it's a figure speech. How
would we know that? Well, that's what that's But what
I'm saying is literally if you could know, how would
you know? Right? Like if I wasn't here, but if
I was beer but out and I was like, yeah,
(19:18):
I got the red ass, and y'all looked at me,
I'll be like, but it's still brown. Like I'm just saying, yeah,
we won't repeat that on the air. Ly, thank you.
That is not interested. Every everybody's got de Sean today.
(19:39):
You're a class act. Um. I just wanted to make
sure I was clear on why I say puffy bottom
all the time, because I'm sure people are like, why
does LaVar always say puffy bottom? That's because I try
to make it relevant, you know, That's all. Yeah, but
you guys are right. I mean, I wouldn't want you
to know I had the red ass. Well, how would
you know you're right? So there you go. I agree
with that too. Yeah, Okay, I just know, I just
(20:04):
think it. But I do want to mention this, um obviously,
the great Bill Russell who passed away yesterday. That guy's
that's a resume you'll never see ever again. Like you
talk about winners, and you talk about success and all
his credentials and and everything he did not only on
(20:25):
the core but off the court, like one of the
great great players of all time. And you can't find anybody, yeah,
who who can say a bad thing about him, which
is rare these days. And um, I just remember my dad,
because and my dad are about the same age, and
him telling me growing up about the great Bill Russell
and those Celtics teams and what he did National champion,
(20:46):
gold medalist, eleven titles in thirteen seasons as a player.
Crazy to see to see what he's done. So just
a great life for a great dude, all of rom
all accounts and Bill Russell awesome resume, um, through and through.
So I'd leave your mark. That's all you can hope
to do. Man, do something significant in your life where
(21:07):
you leave a mark, you know, that's and that's what
he did, So one of the great to do it.
And again, like I said, he he he was an activist,
so he he did a lot of things that were
human humanly uh, you know, kind of focused. That's what
I'm looking for. Yeah, I mean, he just he did
a lot of things to help others, like very selfless
(21:28):
person man. So he'll be missed. I never got a
chance to meet him. I've seen him. I've seen him
in person once before, but never never met him, and
so as one of those things. But um, but like
you said, all accounts given me. You know, he he
is widely revered and and respected and admired. So I'm
sure that would be quite a memorial service that that ensues. Yeah. Um.
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You guys, ever, like in your time running uh in
NFL circles or being at some of these functions or gatherings,
are there people in the NFL world that when they
walk in the room, everybody just sort of says, hey,
that's the guy. Yeah, Like because Bill Russell seemed like
that guy for for the NBA whenever he was around
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right there, it doesn't matter like who's who, Like whether
it's Charles Barkley or or Kevin Garnett or like some
of these a great Kobe Bryant Shack all the from
from any era. When Bill Russell walked in the room,
it was a total respect through and through, like that's
the guy, Like who are the who are those players?
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You remember? It was Jim Yeah, I mean he's he's
the he's the oldest of O G s like Bobby
Mitchell's a part of that that group. I mean there's
there's a few, but Jim Brown is like he's the
that's the that's the Bill Russell gold standard of the NFL.
I was so lucky too, because when you get drafted
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the Cleveland and especially back then like an O seven,
like Jim was around all the time. You know, he
was he was like helping out the organization and you know,
I just had had so many opportunities where I got
to talk to him, you know, sit and just have
a conversation with him. That man has such a wealth
of knowledge or wisdom, however you want to phrase it.
(23:18):
And like as as being a player there and like
undertaking going into the NFL, it could be a lot.
And and he was someone who could really help put
things into perspective for you with his experience, but just
kind of how he sought the world his life experience,
all the things he'd done. Um, you know he is
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he's that guy like he's and and again it's hard
to put in a comparison anyone to to build Russell
on the way he won. Like it's just you know
when you sit there and talking about Jordan's like we're
not old enough to appreciate the battles between Bill Russell
a little Chamberlain, but just to understand, you know, how
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Bill Russell was, how successful he was. So it's hard
like we see Tom Brady were like, oh, it's the goat.
It's like, well, people who lived long enough to see
Bill Russell when all these championships are like, yeah, you
guys are a little too young to remember this. Like
this dude dominated in that fashion too, unlike anything we've
ever seen. So it was it's obviously sad to see
him go, but you know, to bring it full circle,
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I mean, Jim Brown's only when it comes to mind
for me, Yeah, well that's the one. I mean, if
you think about it in terms of activism, in terms
of athletes and what they is Mohammed Ali, it's it's
Bill Russell, It's it's Jim Brown. I mean, I don't
know that there's anyone. I don't know that there's especially
just because of what they represented during the civil rights
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you know movement, during that that moment in time, there
was so many polarizing moments, so many you know, just
people needed to step up, and you would always see
guys like that. And that's why I mentioned Bobby Mitchell,
because Bobby Mitchell was was a face that was in
he He also too was uh Cleveland Brown as well.
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So and a Washington you know football team player. Uh So.
I mean it's you have some you gotta appreciate living
artifacts while they're they're here. And I think when you
lose someone of the magnitude of of a Bill Russell,
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you start to take that into account, like appreciate, appreciate
the people who have done things more than just be
a great athlete, but appreciate the people that have done
things that have impacted our you know, literally our history,
you know. And and Bill Russell was one of those
guys we just mentioned, Jim Brown. I mean there's you know,
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right now, I don't even know just we're in a
time and place I guess you could throw well, I
won't even do that in this moment, but in a
time and place where we are now, it's actually a
a moment in our our culture and in our country
where people could actually be those type of people where
they could be voices of of changed, voices of pulling
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people together, because there's been a lot of separation as
it applies to our country. But guys like Bill Russell
and like we said, Jim Brown, I mean, they they
were beacons of hope. They were they were beacons of direction.
And and that's you know, you obviously hate to lose
somebody of of that that stature because they've always represented
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something that's right. Yeah, two pros and a Cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio coming up in about
ten minutes from now. Somebody in the NFL is explaining
themselves a very interesting move they made this offseason. So
we will get to that here for you. Uh in
about ten minutes from now in another edition of In
case you missed it, Uh, how about Deebo Samuel getting paid?
One of the other long stories of the NFL offseason
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finally gets wrapped up once DK Metcalf got his deal done.
You're waiting to see whether or not Deebo would finally
get his deal done, So no more requesting trades. Yeah, yeah,
it's over. Can you believe it? It's gonna be at
three year deal worth seventy three and a half million
dollars fifty eight point one million in guarantees. Yeah. So
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the wide receiver off season of all off seasons? Where
does that? Um, it's up there. I don't know. They're all, yeah,
it's just money, money, money, money. It's it's up to
par with with DK Metcalf's extension. It looks almost identical
in some ways. I think. I think the hard thing
(27:36):
about some of these contracts, Like I said, I said
this with DK Metcalf, You're not going to see them
maximize or equate to the value of that deal. It's
just it's hard to when their quarterback situation is really unclear.
I don't know that Seattle knows who they're starting quarterback
is going to become Week one right what, Drew Luck,
You're not I heard Geno Smith is actually winning the
(28:00):
battle right now, is exactly. That's That's why I'm saying
this to you. But whoever it is, they're going to
check it. Whoever it is, they're gonna check. They're gonna
check it downfield, or they're gonna play Pete Carroll ball
and they're just gonna run the football and take a
few shots here there, but play a good defense and
do what I think they feel like they need to win.
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But if you if you look at the San Francisco
for not a situation and Deebo Samuel, I mean, Trey
Lance has ability. We don't know if he'll be able
to be the player they're hoping he's going to be.
I mean, we're we're betting on Kyle Shanahan being able
to put him in a position to succeed and weapons
like George Kittle and Brendan i Yuk around Deebo Samuel
to to help out. But we have no idea and
(28:43):
so it's it's a great contract. But I think there's
two things that that hurt Deebo Samuel in the future
is the development of Trey Lance and what he becomes
as a quarterback. But even more so than that, I
don't know when we said this earlier this spring, he's
gonna find himself in a situation where they're gonna run
him the way they did last year because the how
bang up they were a running back and really just
(29:05):
a scenario workout where he's gonna get as made targets
and touches like it is hard to replicate the performance
that he had last year. That could be a career
year that we never see him eclipse ever again in
his career. Well, I'll say I'll say this. I know,
I know Deebo Samuel didn't want to be running back
(29:27):
in in this offense, But don't you think just based
off of some of the logic of what we're wondering
what trade lands can be now, they had injuries to
the backfield, so they don't They may not need Debo
to that degree in that capacity this year, right, I mean,
let's be clear, you may not need him that way,
(29:48):
but you might, but you might need to use him
and in different ways because he is one of your
best playmakers on the team outside of what we would
what would be the only other one that you could
say maybe a bigger playmaker than than Deebo is, But
I don't know that I would say that. So I
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think if you're you're looking at it from the standpoint
of how important Deebo Samuel is to this team today,
I think his value is super high. I think it's
super high, and I think this was the right decision.
He may not outplay what the contract represents, but if
you're if you're looking at it from the standpoint of
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you're trying to give trade Lance the best opportunity to
have success because you did bring him in, you are
moving on from Garoppolo. This is a new this is
a new era that you're you're escorting into, you know,
forty Niners football. I think you definitely want to put
him in a position where he's confident and comfortable about
(30:53):
what his opportunities are coming into the season. So I
think it was the right move to give Deebo Samuel
a deal that makes them happy. My biggest question is
are they going to use him at more positions than
just that receiver's position. Well, now now he's got fifty
eight and something mean and guarantees he probably doesn't care
how they use him. I mean not now, you just
(31:15):
use me and however you want. I finally gets paid.
That was one of the sticking points for him, by
the way, most importantly South Carolina game Cocks. That's rights.
Are you allowed to say that on radio? Game Cock? Yes, yeah,
of course, yeah, button going on. I can't say that.
I don't know. It's probably what what Lee said in
(31:35):
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Man coming up top of the next hour a little
over ten minutes from now. We've got a new layer
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to one of the big stories of the NFL off season.
We will have that for you here right now. Though,
it is time for something we do every single morning
at this time called this. Sometimes he can't get to
everything in the world of sports or entertainment. Good thing.
The guys are here to bring you in case you
missed it, and for that we turn it over to
(33:27):
our executive producer Lee Do laugh, laugh, guys, In case
you missed this. Mr Robbie Anderson has made some changes
over the off season, one being a change of his
jersey number from number eleven to number three, which is
what he played with in high school. Levins way better.
But he also changed the spelling of his name. It
used to be always spelled with a Y at the
end of Robbie. He has since changed it to I E.
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And he's since revealed why that is simply because it
looks better on paper. So he thinks I would ever
change my name. I was gonna say, Brady, would you
ever go I E instead of the Why? I think
the WI looks better. I mean, truth be told, that's
not really my full real name if I changed anything,
which I'll be honest with you, guys, I did contemplate
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that this off season. You know, once I saw Robby
Anderson change the Y to an I E, I was like,
you know what, man, maybe I should just go to Brandon.
That maybe I should have to make sure everyone calls
me Brandon. But at least that's your name, you know,
at least that's right. That is well, I mean, this
is it's Robbie's name. He's just spelling it different. Well,
(34:34):
his name is Robert Robert Stephen Anderson. Okay, well then
that's a little different, right, That's Okay, that's a little different.
If Brady wanted to change Brady to an I E.
Because it looks better on paper, then it doesn't matter
because he's not his name. You're not changing your name.
It's a real name. It's a nickname. Basically. Yeah, I'm
(34:55):
okay with if you change your nickname, just don't change
your real name. Listen, I mean, uh, Braden Brady with
an I E. It all works for me, you know, yeah,
just whatever whatever. You have a nephew name Braden. Yeah,
all right, how about that? Good on it? Like that
multiple Bradens in your laugh about that? I do have
multiple Braden's time or Brady's. Maybe I'll start calling him
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Brady and then that greatness will rub off on him,
you know, you know, there you go great. I mean,
he has a football player, very talented. He's baby though
he's young. Yeah, he's a little kid. Shows talent though,
he shows some some potential. All right, what we got Lee?
What else? What else we got guys? In case you
missed it, Chiefs left tackle Orlando Brown Jr. Has been
a holdout until this, uh until he's gonna be reportedly
(35:42):
uh reporting to camp tomorrow. That being today Monday, reported
to sign his franchise reporting reportedly reporting, reportedly report what
it is He's gonna reportedly report Brady, He's gonna reported
(36:04):
report to twisting it up. You guys are like wolves man.
Once Lee shows that he's sort of openw you write
this down. I do not write these down, Okay, And
you said you do not write them down late, It's
all good. I feel like least trying to read his handwritting.
(36:29):
That's that's that's where his stuffles happened. Typing it out.
I don't know, you want to get to give it
another shot. I'm sticking with the he's going to reportedly
report to camp and signed his franchise tender. Hey, who's
who's reporting this? By the way, this is the best
part of Yeah. How about that dret better? Yeah. So
(36:52):
you know what's interesting about this, Remember when r G
three's tell all books coming out in August. Here what
we're coming out? Yeah? Here we are in August, and instead,
you know, he doesn't about face and now he's breaking
news on Orlando Brown reporting reportedly reporting to camp, reportedly
reporting to sign that franchise tag. I could dig it.
(37:14):
By the way, it wasn't our G three also working out.
He wanted to shot in the league. He was running
hurdles and say get at me. Yeah, get at me, Dug,
you might need somebody who could, you know, jump over
hurdles and run fast. Interesting interesting offseason for r G three.
I mean he's blowing up, He's trending upward in the
media world. Man shots out. I'm not a hater of him, honestly,
(37:35):
I just didn't like the fact that he was doing.
To tell all bo that was all. Yeah, I judged him.
I didn't want to judge him. I I'm I'm not
proud of myself for judging him, but I did. But
at least I'm man enough to admit it. I judged him.
Um what else? We got? What else? League guys? In
case he missed it? One better put a hundred eighty
three dollars and thirty three cents on Tony Finel to
(37:55):
win the Rocket Mortgage Classic. DraftKings reported this he paid
out at over five thou dolls. All right, I'm shocked
that lead the lap didn't say he spent half the
money to get the Powerball tics that we were supposed
to win. Yeah, but I'm glad you brought that millions. Yeah,
(38:18):
we all threw in money and Lead the Lap spent
half of it on booze at the liquor store instead
of buying the other tickets. And that's the reason why
we didn't win Mega million. And told him twenty dollars
he put on ten. Yeah, that's the key word. Told
me nobody. Only half the people gave me the money. Well,
I mean I don't carry cash. I said I got you.
(38:38):
I'm good for it. So what you're saying is you
didn't have it to do it. Come on you sitting
here overnight and do this work job thing. You had
it to give it. Hey, man, someone's got to buy
the booze around here. Sold us out. I can't even
hold us, can't even believe. Unbelievable man, lead a laugh.
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