August 3, 2022 • 46 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys pay their respects to legendary Dodgers broadcaster Vin Scully. A discussion over whether or not Roger Goodell should try to suspend Deshaun Watson longer than 6 games. The Old P, Petros Papadakis jumps on with tales about Vin Scully.
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Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with lamar Ares, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. How the how are we feeling here
on a Wednesday morning? Boy? Hammers? What straight out the gate?
Hammers made it impact? Uh? Gotta walk through life with hammers.
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You're either the nail or the hammer. It's a good point.
That is a good point, a different direction. I'm glad
you guys know me so well. So Uh yeah it
is uh the toolboxes out here and I gotta walk
through live being impactful. Yes. Uh. Speaking of Speaking of which, love,
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some sad news in the world of sports last night
came out that Vince Scully, the great Vince Scully, long
time voice of the Dodgers, credentials, Uh that reached as
far as World Series and and big time NFL games
and all of that, passing away at the age of
ninety four. Truly one of the all time legends. Growing
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up in southern California. Look, I'm a Harry Carey guy
through and through. I love Harry Carey. Uh. Growing up
a Cub fan raises a Cub fan by my dad.
I grew up in Illinois, but we grew up out
here in southern California, and the first baseball voice other
than Skip Carry because he was on TBS and it
was a superstation you got to see other games, was
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Vince Scully. And I didn't realize until I got older
just how far his reach was when it comes to
the impact he had on so many other people around
the country. And so to see the the outpouring of
love and respect and appreciation formed by everybody, not only
in sports but beyond, I think it just goes to
show you what a hell of a ride and what
a hell of a run he had as a podcast
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train as a man. Yeah, I mean, I you know,
I didn't know much about Vince Scully growing up in
the Midwest until I started, you know, calling uh football games.
And once I started working with Joe Davis and and
he ended up taking over that job to replace Vince Scully,
I started to learn more about the impact and just
the legend that that he was. And you know, I
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started to realize the shoes that that Joe would be
filling and taking over as the voice of the Dodgers.
And it was one of those things where you're going,
it's it's it's almost impossible to ever replicate, replace, um,
you know, fill in that void left behind by someone
who had done it for so long, what sixties seven
years as the voice of the Dodgers and so many
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obviously other as you talked about big games, things that
he had, he had accomplished and done during the course
of his career, and just had his own stamp on
his style, the way in which he did it. So
it was something that you know, again was foreign to
me until probably I started even getting into broadcasting. But
but once you started to learn about just how incredible
he was at his job, what he did for such
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a long period of time, you have the utmost respect,
so incredibly saddened by it. But uh, you know, unfortunately
it's uh, it's it's one where you look at the
Dodgers organization and you know, he was lucky to have them.
They're they're lucky to have him as the voice of
the Dodgers for such a long period of time. Yeah, respect,
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you know, respect do I've learned how big the Dodgers
are as a nationwide brand, um, growing up, but I
didn't realize how big Dodgers culture is until I lived
in l A. And I mean it is big and
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and he is you know, a pioneer, a large part
of why you know, why it took. So you know,
I guess a life of of of what it became.
So yeah, you know, I know a lot of you know,
dodge your fans. You know, yesterday with you know, being
at at practice yesterday, there were a lot of people
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talking about it, so you know it was you just
hope that you leave a legacy behind. You know, we
just lost Bill Russell obviously, you know, Um I can't
I can't remember her name, but but the woman from
from Star trek Um just passed away as well. So
you know, you you hope that you live a life
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that was impactful enough where you know, this might sound crazy,
but I mean as as we get older, you you
hope that you live a life where people you know
care that that you left here, you know, and and
that's you know, that's ultimately the sign of how you
lived your life. You know, if nobody cares that you
left here, and it comes and it goes and and
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and life continues on without there being a pause of
some sort to to take respects um. You know, that's
that's to me, that's a shame. When when when that happened?
So you know, he did and he did what he
needed to do for a very long time. A lot
of people say the sign of greatness is being able
to do it at a high level for an extended
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amount of time. He did it at a high level
for an extended amount of time. So respect, respect to
shots out to him, thoughts and prayers to his family
as well. You know, Brady, you mentioned Joe Davis, and
that was one of the first things I thought when
it was announced that he was taken over for Joe Buck.
Joe Buck is great. I mean, he's like a lot
of people don't like him. They know, you know, he's
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rude against my team all that. I've always been a
fan of Joe Buck. I think he's always done a
fantastic job. But there was the conversation, man, that's big
shoes to fill Joe Davis filling for Joe Buck. Dude,
he replaced Vin Scully, all right, it doesn't get any
bigger than that. So I think I think he's up
to the task to replacing Joe Buck after the run
that he's had replacing Vince Scully. But it is it
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is interesting because you hear the term soundtrack to your
childhood where a broadcasters you guys grew up in the
Midwest night LaVar, whether it's Myron Cope or Mike Laying
of the Penguins to where would you hear their voice?
It kind of takes you back to growing up as
a fan. And I think for a lot of people
out here in southern California, Vince Scully is that guy
to where you I can remember you hear back and
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I just think where I was when I would be
listening to it in the car on the radio, him
doing a commercial whatever it was, driving around with my mom.
That was that was sort of the soundtrack for a
lot of people's youth that there. Who are the guys
that you guys grew up with that? You go? Man,
When I hear that voice, it reminds me of growing
up a sports fan in the Midwest. I mean, Keith
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Jackson was the one that at least around football is
always hit home for me. Oh Nelly, I mean that
was that whole just his his cadence, the way he
called games, the big games that he called you know,
He's the one that always stood out to me, at
least the realm of football who I would you know,
kind of harken back to and thing like that sounded
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like college football to bag, Like that's when you knew
it was a big game. Is when you you know,
you heard Keith Jackson's voice and typically around you know,
in Ohio State Michigan game. Um, at least that was
that was for me growing up, Like that was always
you know, the biggest game and kind of the voice
that I think it was, you know, replicated you know,
any sort of you know, large moment in sports, uh
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in the Midwest, you know, I you know, I was
never like That's the thing about broadcasting is I never
really got into it as big until I actually got
into it and started to understand and you know, learned
a lot of the voices the people behind it. You know,
as a kid, I just wasn't always four focused on
you know, who was playing, not necessarily who was broadcasting it. So, uh,
it's been it's been something that I think I've had
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to learn over the past you know, you know, eight
years or so in getting into broadcasting. And I really
was ignorant to it until I started that it actually
has a profession. Yeah, I mean you mentioned Myron Cope.
I mean, that is easily the most recognizable voice. And
I cope that says Myron Coupe on spots, um, you know,
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and Stan Saverign, you know, being from Pittsburgh and the
amount of history connected to our our programs and the
way it was brought to life with our local personalities
and our local brands. Stan savereign is every bit of
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that type of guy in Pittsburgh that Myron Cope was
to to us as well. Um, when you thought about
football and you thought about the Steelers, you thought about
Myron Cope, and you thought about Stan Savereigns and and
so for me, you know, and I know Stan is
is fighting some some health issues as well. Um, but yeah,
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I mean that's for me growing up, it didn't get
any better than than listening to them cover camps. And
you know, I guess you didn't really a apreciate it
as much with Myron Cope. I didn't appreciate it as
much until I got a little bit older, because at
first I was like, man, who's this creepy, crazy old man?
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You know? And why is he like you know, I
mean he kind of if you could like kind of
picture a visual of him, he kind of looked like
the real life you know, the count you know from
Sesame Street, And he had this like weird looked to
him man, and his voice fit the way he looked,
and and then you started realizing that man, the dude,
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he was like a Dick Vitale of Pittsburgh sports, you know,
with that type of energy that he brought to the table.
And obviously if you if you don't know the history
of Myron Cope, he's actually the creator of the Terrible Tao.
You know, so many people try to replicate having something
that is a staple or a signature for the team. Well,
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I mean that was something that he started and and
that is you know, that is tremendous, a tremendous part
of the establishment of what the Pittsburgh still is represents.
So yeah, for me, it was that's an easy one.
That's that's Myron Copin and you know and stan Cyvereign. Yeah,
it's uh, a lot of just legends and you look
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back on you think to yourself, you didn't realize the
impact they had until you get older and you go, God,
it just takes me right back to that moment. Vince Sculling.
There's a lot of people out there listening to this
that here Vin Scully, here the voice. It takes him
right back to that moment, and that's a testament to
again what a great broadcaster he was. But anybody you
talked to him. We're gonna catch up with Petros Papadakis
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coming up an hour three. I know Petros was a
huge fan of Vin Scully. Obviously spent time around him
working at AM five seventy l A Sports, the home
of the l A Dodgers, and so it'll be interesting
to see some of the stories and some of the
memories of Petro's had. But a lot of people pouring, uh,
you know, whether it's social media or going on television
or radio talking about the great Vince Goalie, and it's
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absolutely deserved a legend and rest in peace and thoughts
and prayers to his family. Be sure to catch live
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what do you mean, thank you, Berto, Thank you man.
You don't get it. You don't know, man, this works,
it is. We gotta ask Berto too, by the way,
I just can't. I don't feel right moving too much
further without asking Berto his thoughts on go ahead, t
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m up, okay, up to show. Just make sure you
tee up Berto to get his moment. So we are
gonna get here from Roberto on the passing of Vin Scully. Obviously,
Roberto being the biggest Dodger fan here at the network, um,
even more so than some of these other posers that
walk around here. Legitimate Dodger fan. But it is two
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pros and a cup of Joe here at Slavar Arrington,
Brady Quinn Jonas knocks with you here on FS are
so burt. Oh, obviously the passing of Vin Scully. How
did that land with you? Oh? Man? It was sad. Uh.
Vin was a voice of my childhood. Man. Remember going
to the Dodger games as a kid and just seeing
everybody with the radio transistor radio. It was amazing. Uh.
He was a voice of my childhood. And I don't
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know how privileged I was as uh until I got older,
how privilege I was to have Vin as a you know,
the voice of the Dodgers, and uh, it was it
was kind of like a grand uh, a grand like
a grandpat to me because I I really, I really
didn't grow up with grandparents. They're obviously in Mexico. My
both of my grandmothers died when they were very young.
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So it was kind of like a grandpot to me
in a in a kind of like the showed me
everything about introduced me everything about baseball. Yeah, he was awesome, awesome,
awesome dude from everybody to career points to. Yeah, like
you do take for granted. I think sometimes when you
grow up in a market where you have someone like
Vin who's like the voice what you're accustomed to, you
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go somewhere else and you hear, like, what there the
voice of like some of their teams sounds like you're going,
oh okay, yeah, I could have grown up with this.
It's it's it's a little different. Wow. I mean, I know,
you have to honest, I mean, you know, I mean,
he's he's you know. Vince Scully was fantastic and Joel
Davis did a great, great job last night. Man, he
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did great because it happened like during the game, right cheez,
like that lands in your lap while you're trying to
do a broadcast and it's the guy you replaced and
who never replaced, Vince Gully. But he's he's done a
great job. Yeah, so again uh good uh, good stuff
on Vince Scully and Petros Papa veegis the old P's
gonna join us next hour. He'll have more on that
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as well to obviously being uh in the l A
market his entire life, So that that, amongst other things.
I mean, Cattris and I spent some time earlier with
sweet and he was educated me on Catalina. So I
do think it's it's only fair that, um Petros, you know,
it gets you guys up to date with some of
the things you should know about Catalina Island. Yeah, oh
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you're not. You were? Was that the first you heard
of Catalina? No? No, I've been there before. But it's
it's a little different when you have Petris give you
the history of I've never gone over the island. Well,
I talked about, oh you gotta take a boat over there,
and that, Oh you just never gotten around the door
in it. You'd love it, you'd love it. It's small,
but I mean you can you know they got places
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a golf cart around like the original school house and
stuff like that or whatever, and that I heard a
lot about it. I don't think there could be any
new construction over there. Again, I don't want to go
off on a tangent like this, but um yeah from
what from what Petros it was describing to me, like
you have to remodel like what's already there, like you
you're you can't like build on vacant land. So it's
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it's a pretty unique place in that sense. Interesting alright,
So we got that to look forward to as well too.
With with Patros plus whatever else stream of consciousness comes
to mind with him when he wakes up and uh
turns on the machine and then just starts ranting like
he usually does, which is always the fun part. So
that will be coming up next hour. Um all right,
So uh from the classy Vin Scully to DeShawn Watson.
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Uh so it is a smooth transition here as we
uh get we get the very latest. So Tony Buzzby,
who represented the accusers of Deshaun Watson obviously throughout this
entire time, and um, he made the decision in the
announcement yesterday that he is going to have a press
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conference coming up tomorrow on Thursday afternoon in Houston to
update the public on the quote status of the Deshaun
Watson and Houston Texans cases, to provide comment regarding the
pending NFL proceedings. Now, it's interesting because the NFL has
until Thursday at nine am Eastern Time, just a couple
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hours before this scheduled press conference, to decide whether or
not they're going to appeal the six game suspension that
was handed down. And there is some speculation. Aaron Wilson
of Pro Football Network is speculating that the NFL is
thought to be leaning towards appealing this to try and
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add on some more punishment to it. And I just
wonder this, if the NFL knows that that Tony Buzzby
is going to have this scheduled press conference on Thursday,
and that several of the plane in is are going
to be there and they're going to be standing behind
Tony Buzzby as he updates everybody on the situation. Ashley
so Leese, who was the first one to come out publicly.
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She was featured on HBO's Real sports. If the NFL
knows that Tony Buzzby is going to be standing there
with the plainiffs giving his thoughts and potentially some of
their thoughts, although limited because there are some you know,
some some stuff that was filed in the civil court
and these lawsuits, they can't obviously reveal all their information
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because that would be violating whatever sort of non disclosures
they have. If that's the case, do you think the
NFL goes, dude, we can't just let this appeal opportunity
pass us by. And then a couple hours later have
these women step up emotional about the situation, and everyone's
looking at us, going, so you still had a chance
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to appeal this, and and you still, after all that
you knew you just let it pass by. It's why
I think there's going to be an appeal. I really do.
Um yeah, I think I think you're writing that sense
only because of the optics of it. And it seems
like Tony Buzzby is as good of a job as
any attorney at and think of play in the media
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the court of public opinion to put pressure not only
in Deshaun Watson and and his team, but also the
NFL to a degree, So I guess I'm right there
with you on this. I don't know, though, I mean, ultimately,
the NFL is going to do what they want to do,
and even if it looks bad for you know, a week,
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they'll move on that there will be games being played.
We all know. Once games start being played, it shifts
and turns everyone's attention. I mean, even even though the
you know, Dolphins news that kind of broke out and
all that stuff almost kind of flies under the radar
because after the Watson stuff, then it's the Dolphins stuff.
The next thing you know, it's it's injury news, it's
contract stuff, it's it's I mean, it's a constant news
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site in the Hall of Fame game a few hours
later after all. I mean, That's that's why I feel
like if they ended up doing nothing and the games
kicks off starts playing, it wouldn't surprise me either. That's
what I think. That's what I think is going to happen.
There not gonna do anything, um And I think it's because,
I mean, listen, as soon as as soon as I
saw the tampering allegations and the punishment, well not allegations,
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but that the tampering penalty come down. I'm like, all right,
here we go. It's it's it's the season, and there's
going to be more news that becomes relevant to sports fans.
I think it's going to be people who don't live
within the realm and the circle of the media cycle
of of the NFL that they're going to have their
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outrage regardless, and and if they already have it, they're
gonna have it no matter what what takes place. So
I think I think in terms of, you know, how
it was handled, I think they still can lean on
the fact that they high this is just me. I
think they still can lean on the fact that they
hired a woman that has a strong background um in
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in the legal field as a jug much as a
former judge. I know people have made jokes about it.
That's probably why he's a former judge. Yeah, well, I'm
sure the people who have said that weren't judges. So
I just think that they're going to lean on what
they did in terms of who they appointed as the
person that arbitrated the situation. I think it's honestly for
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as as comfortable as it may seem, and and we've
been using pundit, you know a lot lately, So for
all of of of the media pundance that are out
here saying that, oh, the pressure is too high and
they've got to do it, and the percentage of of
women that watch the sport and that, how do you know,
the percentage of women that watch the sports aren't sitting
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there and have an opinion that may be different than
the one that that people are making it out to be,
you know. So to me, I I just look at
it as this is one of those deals they they
put the process in play to be able to get
out of the way of whatever the verdict, the the
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conclusions was going. Yeah, the decision, I keep saying verdict.
I don't want to say verdict technically be right in
this case. Yeah, I just but it sounds legal. It
sounds so legal. Um what what I mean? Yeah? It
was her verdict. But anyway, regardless, I just think that
they put themselves in a position to actually damage themselves
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by going over top of it rather than allowing what
the what you call it again? The what? What is
she She's not the arbitrator, She's the one the NFL
disciplinary officer. Okay, there, you so as far as them
doing that, I think that you gotta ride with it. Well,
I think that's my idea of I do love the
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fact that in her conclusion she kind of threw it
back on the NFL like, well, this has been your
precedent that you have set previously. I mean when she
talked about like the timely fashion and you know Watson's
you know team not being aware of certain things, and
um just the pressing that they had said in previous
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situations of non violent um, you know, sexual acts or
I figured exactly how she described it. But when when
when she laid all that stuff out, it was almost
like she just was like, well, this is what you
guys done in the past, and so I'm not gonna
do anything past this because this is my first time
doing this and I'm gonna use that as the barometer
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for for what we're going to do here. It was
just it almost put more pressure on the NFL because
they're like, wait a second, we thought you were gonna
come in like lay down the hammer on on on
Deshaun Watson, and now we've got to basically come back
and decide like do we want to take this first
time that we would go through this process, do we
want to you know, appeal this where it goes to
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Roger Goodell because that's how the cb A set up,
and we've got more control over how long we want
to punish, whether it's ten games, twelve games, full season,
And it's gonna be really hard for them not to
sit there and say it's a kangaroo court, Like, of
course they should be able to get what they want
in an appeals process if Roger Goodell alto Way is
the arbiter that and it seemed like the great divide
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for her was non violent to violent, Like that was
she she viewed it as non violent, which is why
she wasn't going to impose any anything more more In
today's dann A's with so many issues around mental health
and the impact and the toll that it takes on people,
that was probably the most surprising thing to me is
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that you needed to differentiate violent non violent. But bar
you brought up the best point, like there there might
not have been a a violent act that was that
was you know, created there, but there was a violation.
You said that earlier this week, and like I sit
there and go, like the impact that that has on
people's mental health can be scarring for the rest of
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their lives. You might not be able to see the scars,
but for the rest of their lives are could be
dealing with that. I'll tell you what if I got
spanked by my parents, it hurt in the moment. Ten
minutes later I was playing like nothing ever happened. When
I disappointed my family and my parents and I had
to look at the disappointment on their face. It had
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a much longer, it had a much harder, you know,
impact on me, you know. And and the idea of
it is is that some of the things that aren't
physical aren't the most damaging to to a person, you know.
And and and that's the thing about it, Like you know,
we both talked about, you know, we have daughters. I
can't imagine something that would have happened to them that,
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you know, okay it maybe it wasn't a valent act,
but there was physical acts involved. Keep that in mind.
There were physical acts involved, and even though not considered
or deemed valent, that's still something that will impact those
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those ladies for obviously for for a very long time,
if not for the rest of their lives. And I
don't want to speak for them on their behalf, but
I can only imagine, you know, when you find yourself
in a situation where you've you've been violated in that way.
And so to me, I thought that was interesting as well.
Even though by the I guess the lay of the
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law or how how worning works, that's what it is.
They weren't valid acts, valient sexual acts of misconduct or whatever.
But I just to me, I think the best thing
that that the NFL could have done, that they could
undo by by by appealing it, whether people like it
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or not, is is that they appointed a woman to
doing it. It's a woman, it's not a man. If
a man did this, appeal it like, nope, we're appealing
it like your tone deaf you you don't get it
that that you're insensitive to it. We're we're going to
appill it. And people will be like, you know what,
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it's a guy, like why they do it? Boys club,
the whole deal, good old boys, whatever you want to
do call it. But this was a woman that did
it right and and and I think that that was
the to me, that was the most strategic move and
what was done. And appointing a woman to do it.
By the way, Brady's Buddy is drinking Buddy on St.
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Patty's Day. Jeff Darlington of ESPN he said that if
the NFL does appeal this, that he's heard that Deshaun
Watson side will be filing a lawsuit, that Watson and
the NFL p A would file a lawsuit and that
move would result in a temporary restraining order, which means
that it would delay the punishment and he could possibly
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be available for the start of the season. So there's
there's all that added to it. I mean, it gets
it legally get so complicated, and just to go back
to what you said, LaVar, I think the one thing
and talks about her conclusion that also stood out is,
you know, typically you're gonna use different you know, facts, presents,
things of that nature that have been set before within
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the NFL in order to to create her decision or verdict.
I just there's usually an element of like their own
experience and opinion, Like there's a reason why we appoint
certain people to be whether it's an NFL and disciplinary
and officer or a judge, Like, usually their own life
experience and their own judgment, like plays a role in
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all of that with the facts, and that's what that was.
What was crazy to me is maybe in this role
like that has nothing to do with it, you know,
as compared to when she's a judge or when she
was a judge. But that's the other part of it,
is like there was no like kind of human element
of like, hey, I can see it from this perspective
as a woman like that that really never came up
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at least not anything that I've seen that's been leaked
out there on the onto the internet, onto social media
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Right now, we go to a Petros Pop and Kis.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
heard on the Blowtorch AM five seventy l A Sports
also a Fox College Ball analyst. Petro's obviously a tough
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morning with the passing of Vince Scully, But you grew
up in southern California. Uh, guy was a legend and
for everything I've never met him, but for every day
I've talked to. Uh, just a great dude to interact with.
And obviously you being at the Dodgers flagship, in the
home of the Dodgers AM five seventy, I'm sure you've
had countless run ins with Ben Well. Yeah, we got
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to know him. Uh. I met him when I was
first broadcasting. I don't know, maybe when I was about
five or six years in because I worked at Fox
Sports West and that's who had the Dodgers for years
and years and years. In fact, they created that cable station,
Fox Sports West to just to carry the Dodgers, and
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that was very innovative in the world of local sports
and putting stuff on TV. But yeah, I got to
meet him when I was much younger and then we
would interview him or or go see him in the
booth every once in a while. He was a very
private man. It's not that he didn't want to see
people or was not super kind, I mean really kind
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and engaging to everybody, but people it was different. You know,
like when you would walk up at the forum after
a game or at halftime, you know you would high
five Chickherne. I mean, chickhern was was really like with
and part of the crowd and the people, and Vin
kind of had a different, different seat in the stadium,
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a different perspective, but he was just I mean when
the first time he says your name, it's you know you,
it buckles your knees because it's such a it's such
an impactful voice. And he really was in all honesty.
I mean you could ask every stage manager, producer, director,
and I know many of them that got to work
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with him over the years. Uh, and it's just an
unbelievable experience to have worked games or have in around
Vince Gully. And those are the people. I mean, there's
a lot of people that are going to be hurting today,
and mostly it's fans. It's people that just we're part
of this guy's career, and his career was part of them,
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and it was just a community thing, and it was
very special for a long time, very long time here
in Los Angeles, in Brooklyn, just because of how good
he was and who he was and what he brought
to a broadcast. I mean for years, I don't think
he wore a headset, so a director would just follow him.
So basically he just direct the show. Once he starts
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talking about something, they put a camera on it, and
he was he I mean, it's just guys, he was
absolutely brilliant. There's not enough words to describe what a
force of greatness he was in our business and what
a comfort he was to people and all kinds of
different situations. It's really sad, but at the same time,
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I mean, look, we all got to be around Vince
Gully years old. And when Sandy died, his wife died
a little over a year ago, I think, and that
kind of took a lot of the that You just
could tell there was a lot of the urgency kind
of left his voice. He was. It was. It was sad,
but also very pretty, you know, they were they were
really really close, and it's a it's a sad day,
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but also a great day to celebrate. I know I'm rambling,
but it's early in the morning. No, no, no, no,
it makes sense too. I mean, obviously, something like this, it's,
as you said, impact so many people. You'll never see
this again though from from every nothing ever, I mean,
sixties seven years, I mean, that's just it's unbelievable. So
he started when he was seven with the Dodgers. Yeah,
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he started way back. A Red Barber hired him. And
Red Barber was a really great announcer obviously, and Red
Barber had that kind of clear tone, very similar to
what Vin kind of adopted. And just generationally, I mean,
you're talking about a guy who knew Jackie Robinson well
and was there to see that whole thing go down.
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And for somebody to be able to convey what it
was like riding your bike around New York City on
D Day, you know, for somebody that could be able
to convey clearly, beautifully, poetically what it was like in
all these situations, whether it was very small globally, you know,
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just for the Dodger organization in baseball, like you know,
the death of Don Drysdale or or something terrible like
that or something global and horrible like nine eleven, or
or you know, any kind of war that we've had
over the years. Scully was he was just he always
had the very very right and most perfect tone. And
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you know that one thing that's funny about Vince Scully
is there's two things that Vince Scully did that we
can all learn from as broadcasters. And it's the other
thing everybody tries to do is all the stuff that
he did that he could all we do, Like I
don't want to hear a thirty year old guy talk
about D Day and try to act like he was there,
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just because Vin used to be able to do that.
But the one thing Vinn always did really well was
he was not a homer. I mean, Vin called it
really straight, and sometimes he was really complimentary some of
the the opponents of the Dodgers. He just really liked
certain players, and that would piss people off some people,
you know, because he was, uh, not a homer. And
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the other thing he had was timing. You know, he
had wonderful and and and really strong timing. And that's
what broadcasters can learn from Vince Gully, not like, oh,
I'm gonna tell a bunch of personal stories about this
guy and weave it into the broadcast because nobody could
do it like him, nobody. That's so cool that you
said that, because I made that point earlier about how
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he wasn't uh, you know, a homer, and how he
was very very balanced, and how he did his coverage
of the game. So I think that's really cool that
you you brought that up. Why are you laughing? Did
not what a low blow? I just I mean, we're
having a heartfelt conversation about Scully, and Lafar used it
(35:10):
to take a shot at you. Jonas. Yeah, unbelievable, York
I was actually giving him a compliment, But I mean
that's true. Petro's when I was thinking about you coming
on today, before obviously you're Scully's death, I was hoping
you could like these guys on Catalina, like we had
such a Yeah, all this stuff you're telling me, Yeah, cattle,
(35:34):
a ten year old kid in Catalina will beat your
ass if you're fourteen and you're a student, like a
student day trip or retreat. It's what do you mean?
There's some there's some salty locals out there and surfers.
Is it like Hawaii there's no waves. But don't they
don't they don't. They fight for the little ones that
(35:55):
they have over there. There's like there's like the surfer
crew of long Ago. Guys, it's been a long few days. Guys,
what's wrong with him? He's a longer. What's what's wrong
(36:15):
with him? Longer? Well, I hope you die. I hope
you die. I don't take, I don't take. I don't
keep no, I don't take no lip from no park,
keep neither. If you find yourself on the backside of Catalina,
we'll goind of wrap somebody on the bear to get
some respect her on him. Okay, here's the deal. The
backside of Catalina has a few things. Uh Well, first
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of all, there's two towns in Catalina. There's Avalon, which
you know where the Cubs used to have the the
spring training very very logistical nightmare. You think the Big
ten for USC and U c l A is hard.
Try having Chicago spring training in Catalina Island where you
have to cross the channel every time, which is not
an easy crossing but a lot unless you're in a
(36:57):
big boat. But Avalon is you know, it's a town.
There's stuff there that not much. It's a very small
island town and a lot of people drive golf carts
and there's rationing and stuff like that. And then there's
Two Harbors, which is over Moore and that's more like
very kind of remote. Catalina is a conservatory and the
Wrigley family used to own it and they gave it
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back to the state and now you can't build anything
there unless you knock something else down. So the backside
of Two Harbors is a place called cat Harbor Catalina Harbor,
and the people that are moored in that that area,
they are they don't have a last name. You know.
It's like it's like, who's that as well thought, that's Bob.
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He lives on his boat. Well, what when does he go?
He comes in once every two weeks to get his
mail and somebody asked him his last name once and
he choked him to death. You know, I mean that's
you know, that's like the jalis called Cartel wants you dead.
You're hiding on the back side. And then there's Shark Harbor,
which is like super milky and sharky and all kinds
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of stuff on the backs. But that is the end
of the world. And I didn't tell you either, Brady.
The legend of the white giants that used to live
in Catalina. The white giants, well, there was a guy,
the Wriggley's, you know, they let some god Norwegians, no, no,
like giant white that there used to be. Well, they're
still the Tonga people who were the Native Americans that
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lived in this area when the Spanish came, and they
had a lot of them over there in Catalina, and
they tell legends of giant like twelve fifteen foot white
haired giants that lived over there on Land's End in
Catalina that disappeared when the Conkista gro doors came. Now,
legends are legends. However, the Wriggley family let this guy
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who was not an archaeologist, he was an amateur, but
they let him dig whatever he wanted in Catalina, and
he ended up desecrating thousands and thousands of graves. And
they had a bone museum there. But guess what, dude,
they found some like four ft femurs, and they found
the giant poems and there are pictures of these giant bones.
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But it was so uh, it was such a travesty
that he did what he did, uh, desecrating those graves
and not a real archaeologist. That a lot of people
were just horrified, and they reconsecrated a lot of the graves.
And no one talks of the white giants. I mean,
Petra's how do we know somebody didn't just drop off
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like two three giraffes and let him walk around. And
that's where they confused. They have like a full human
bones dude, like fifteen feet of the white giants. Do
you don't get you guys don't know. I don't even
know what to say after that, like to go over
there and make one of those dudes a d n
(39:49):
I'm glad we go. Okay, now you gave us something.
All right. So the kid from Low South like he
goes and visits, Uh all right, let me help the
national listeners. Uh, what the hell are we talking about?
Is that the where they do the horse racing. Yes
(40:09):
it is mcay McKay nelson. I believe it's the name
of the kid, right, yeah, yeah, But the star recruit.
He's the number one or one of the bigger one
quarterbacks in the country. I've seen took Archie Manning well,
arch arches a little overrated in my opinion. Wow, oh
(40:31):
my god, taking up the Manning family, Oh my god.
I mean, well, I just taking Louisiana school doesn't really
have the I don't think they have the competition level
of my low sound prifence some of those highlights. You're going,
all right, why who they're playing here? Exactly? Thank you, Brady.
(40:51):
Somebody finally say something, no, I've watched. I mean, this
is the Oh my god. Last night some sec woman
was screaming at me. Actually very nice woman, but she
was like, you know, arts went to Texas and now
(41:12):
we don't know what to do. I was like, dude,
his dad cupperheads tenosis of the spine and that's why
he didn't play like Peyton and he Petro's How was
the the Fox Retreat? Did you get to spend some
(41:33):
time with Brady and you guys, we spent a little time.
I mean, it's it's chaos, you know, like because like
so many people, I mean, it's wonderful. Like I I
was less nervous this year for whatever reason. I had
a better time seeing a lot of my friends and uh,
there's just a lot of people that I've traveled around
the country with, you know, the last twenty years. You know,
(41:55):
people I was with when my grandma died, people I
was with, you know, we've all we've been together throughout
the years. And I've been on so many crews at
Fox that I mean, it's literally like almost no time
to eat because there's so many people to talk to
and engage and have fun with. And uh that was
that part of it was really cool. And I met
Sean Payton. Yeah, and I have some New Orleans knowledge,
(42:19):
so I dropped a couple of places on Peyton. He
was like, damn boy, you know the Senate, you know what.
And it was late at night and then uh uh oh,
Jason Bennetti we hired, which I just think is a
wonderful higher Like, you know, that's what that it's hardening
(42:39):
to me about Fox because the people that run Fox
Brad's Anger, Judy uh boyd h and Eric Shanks. Well
Judy is married to a guy played Pop Warner football
with uh and lives in my hometown. But those guys
their production oriented people, like they care about production and
(43:00):
putting the game on as as opposed to just sales.
And they hire really they hire great announcers you know,
you see a good announcer, you're like, Wow, that guy's
really good, and then you see him a year or
two later and Fox has hired him. It's it's always
good to see that. But it was it was fun.
It was really good. And Brady walks around like, you know,
like a prince, like Prince hal Shakespearean. You might as skull,
(43:25):
you know, you know what outside of the guys yesterday,
because they asked you, like, what does Petrol's come along
actually come on tomorrow? What are you talking about? I go, honestly,
I'm gonna ask his opinion on nuticals. They're like nuticals.
I was like, yeah, they're like you know, if you
have to new to your dog, it's like the replacement
face fake balls. Yeah, fake balls, the fake for dogs
(43:46):
the men too. Yeah, so you're not like a uniballer. Yeah,
I mean I don't think my dog. I mean, does
it really matter that my dog has an empty sack? Yeah?
I don't know, but it's hard for me to look
at like I couldn't like I would do it if
(44:06):
we have a female dog. So that's not really an
issue there, but it just feels like fake boll get
her fake boobs up. You know, it's like if it
feels like fake boobs for your dog, but it's like,
what do we do fake boobs? Well, why would you
do it? Like why would you add some good imagine that? Though, well, yes,
it's like putting fake like fake ball sack. It's like why,
(44:27):
But it's not. It's not that different from the guy
who's got like the ball sack hanging from the back
of the truck. You know rust trucks. Somebody hung truck
nuts on my truck. Oh, I'm pretty sure it was
my radio partner. Yeah, it was like a bright red.
It was back when I had like a bread cool
(44:48):
aid red. If you're Chevy Silverando that we had infected
red truck. If you're full gonea truck. If you were
if you were going to give your dog fake tests,
you gotta go right. You have to go big. Yeah,
you have to be like south Park. Now, now he's
gonna have a wheelbarrel to drag him around. Two cantaloupes
(45:11):
and a duffel bag. Was that American pot with the
bulldog that was was full? Which one was that where
they took it and they put it in the pastries?
Was that American job. Oh my god, was the big
you know, listen, let's talk about let's talk about I
(45:35):
was gonna say I didn't wait to stick to landing on,
you know, and he was doing so heartfelt and doing
all that. And now we have a full balls on
a bulldog. Uh it is you took it to cute
the noodles. I've never heard of anybody like come into
a locker room or anywhere and be like, hey, guys,
my balls are full. Some people all the good euphanism
(46:05):
is I'm suffering from a hostage. Christ get pro Pedro's
on Twitter at the old p and if you wanted
to send over images of truck nuts to him, you
could probably do that as well. To please go like
Petros will do it again next week. Thank you, guys,
(46:27):
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Joe with lamar Ares, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. How the how are we feeling here
on a Wednesday morning? Boy? Hammers? What straight out the gate?
Hammers made it impact? Uh? Gotta walk through life with hammers.
(00:29):
You're either the nail or the hammer. It's a good point.
That is a good point, a different direction. I'm glad
you guys know me so well. So Uh yeah it
is uh the toolboxes out here and I gotta walk
through live being impactful. Yes. Uh. Speaking of Speaking of which, love,
(00:53):
some sad news in the world of sports last night
came out that Vince Scully, the great Vince Scully, long
time voice of the Dodgers, credentials, Uh that reached as
far as World Series and and big time NFL games
and all of that, passing away at the age of
ninety four. Truly one of the all time legends. Growing
(01:17):
up in southern California. Look, I'm a Harry Carey guy
through and through. I love Harry Carey. Uh. Growing up
a Cub fan raises a Cub fan by my dad.
I grew up in Illinois, but we grew up out
here in southern California, and the first baseball voice other
than Skip Carry because he was on TBS and it
was a superstation you got to see other games, was
(01:38):
Vince Scully. And I didn't realize until I got older
just how far his reach was when it comes to
the impact he had on so many other people around
the country. And so to see the the outpouring of
love and respect and appreciation formed by everybody, not only
in sports but beyond, I think it just goes to
show you what a hell of a ride and what
a hell of a run he had as a podcast
(02:00):
train as a man. Yeah, I mean, I you know,
I didn't know much about Vince Scully growing up in
the Midwest until I started, you know, calling uh football games.
And once I started working with Joe Davis and and
he ended up taking over that job to replace Vince Scully,
I started to learn more about the impact and just
the legend that that he was. And you know, I
(02:22):
started to realize the shoes that that Joe would be
filling and taking over as the voice of the Dodgers.
And it was one of those things where you're going,
it's it's it's almost impossible to ever replicate, replace, um,
you know, fill in that void left behind by someone
who had done it for so long, what sixties seven
years as the voice of the Dodgers and so many
(02:42):
obviously other as you talked about big games, things that
he had, he had accomplished and done during the course
of his career, and just had his own stamp on
his style, the way in which he did it. So
it was something that you know, again was foreign to
me until probably I started even getting into broadcasting. But
but once you started to learn about just how incredible
he was at his job, what he did for such
(03:03):
a long period of time, you have the utmost respect,
so incredibly saddened by it. But uh, you know, unfortunately
it's uh, it's it's one where you look at the
Dodgers organization and you know, he was lucky to have them.
They're they're lucky to have him as the voice of
the Dodgers for such a long period of time. Yeah, respect,
(03:24):
you know, respect do I've learned how big the Dodgers
are as a nationwide brand, um, growing up, but I
didn't realize how big Dodgers culture is until I lived
in l A. And I mean it is big and
(03:44):
and he is you know, a pioneer, a large part
of why you know, why it took. So you know,
I guess a life of of of what it became.
So yeah, you know, I know a lot of you know,
dodge your fans. You know, yesterday with you know, being
at at practice yesterday, there were a lot of people
(04:05):
talking about it, so you know it was you just
hope that you leave a legacy behind. You know, we
just lost Bill Russell obviously, you know, Um I can't
I can't remember her name, but but the woman from
from Star trek Um just passed away as well. So
you know, you you hope that you live a life
(04:26):
that was impactful enough where you know, this might sound crazy,
but I mean as as we get older, you you
hope that you live a life where people you know
care that that you left here, you know, and and
that's you know, that's ultimately the sign of how you
lived your life. You know, if nobody cares that you
left here, and it comes and it goes and and
(04:48):
and life continues on without there being a pause of
some sort to to take respects um. You know, that's
that's to me, that's a shame. When when when that happened?
So you know, he did and he did what he
needed to do for a very long time. A lot
of people say the sign of greatness is being able
to do it at a high level for an extended
(05:12):
amount of time. He did it at a high level
for an extended amount of time. So respect, respect to
shots out to him, thoughts and prayers to his family
as well. You know, Brady, you mentioned Joe Davis, and
that was one of the first things I thought when
it was announced that he was taken over for Joe Buck.
Joe Buck is great. I mean, he's like a lot
of people don't like him. They know, you know, he's
(05:33):
rude against my team all that. I've always been a
fan of Joe Buck. I think he's always done a
fantastic job. But there was the conversation, man, that's big
shoes to fill Joe Davis filling for Joe Buck. Dude,
he replaced Vin Scully, all right, it doesn't get any
bigger than that. So I think I think he's up
to the task to replacing Joe Buck after the run
that he's had replacing Vince Scully. But it is it
(05:56):
is interesting because you hear the term soundtrack to your
childhood where a broadcasters you guys grew up in the
Midwest night LaVar, whether it's Myron Cope or Mike Laying
of the Penguins to where would you hear their voice?
It kind of takes you back to growing up as
a fan. And I think for a lot of people
out here in southern California, Vince Scully is that guy
to where you I can remember you hear back and
(06:18):
I just think where I was when I would be
listening to it in the car on the radio, him
doing a commercial whatever it was, driving around with my mom.
That was that was sort of the soundtrack for a
lot of people's youth that there. Who are the guys
that you guys grew up with that? You go? Man,
When I hear that voice, it reminds me of growing
up a sports fan in the Midwest. I mean, Keith
(06:38):
Jackson was the one that at least around football is
always hit home for me. Oh Nelly, I mean that
was that whole just his his cadence, the way he
called games, the big games that he called you know,
He's the one that always stood out to me, at
least the realm of football who I would you know,
kind of harken back to and thing like that sounded
(06:58):
like college football to bag, Like that's when you knew
it was a big game. Is when you you know,
you heard Keith Jackson's voice and typically around you know,
in Ohio State Michigan game. Um, at least that was
that was for me growing up, Like that was always
you know, the biggest game and kind of the voice
that I think it was, you know, replicated you know,
any sort of you know, large moment in sports, uh
(07:20):
in the Midwest, you know, I you know, I was
never like That's the thing about broadcasting is I never
really got into it as big until I actually got
into it and started to understand and you know, learned
a lot of the voices the people behind it. You know,
as a kid, I just wasn't always four focused on
you know, who was playing, not necessarily who was broadcasting it. So, uh,
it's been it's been something that I think I've had
(07:41):
to learn over the past you know, you know, eight
years or so in getting into broadcasting. And I really
was ignorant to it until I started that it actually
has a profession. Yeah, I mean you mentioned Myron Cope.
I mean, that is easily the most recognizable voice. And
I cope that says Myron Coupe on spots, um, you know,
(08:06):
and Stan Saverign, you know, being from Pittsburgh and the
amount of history connected to our our programs and the
way it was brought to life with our local personalities
and our local brands. Stan savereign is every bit of
(08:27):
that type of guy in Pittsburgh that Myron Cope was
to to us as well. Um, when you thought about
football and you thought about the Steelers, you thought about
Myron Cope, and you thought about Stan Savereigns and and
so for me, you know, and I know Stan is
is fighting some some health issues as well. Um, but yeah,
(08:49):
I mean that's for me growing up, it didn't get
any better than than listening to them cover camps. And
you know, I guess you didn't really a apreciate it
as much with Myron Cope. I didn't appreciate it as
much until I got a little bit older, because at
first I was like, man, who's this creepy, crazy old man?
(09:13):
You know? And why is he like you know, I
mean he kind of if you could like kind of
picture a visual of him, he kind of looked like
the real life you know, the count you know from
Sesame Street, And he had this like weird looked to
him man, and his voice fit the way he looked,
and and then you started realizing that man, the dude,
(09:35):
he was like a Dick Vitale of Pittsburgh sports, you know,
with that type of energy that he brought to the table.
And obviously if you if you don't know the history
of Myron Cope, he's actually the creator of the Terrible Tao.
You know, so many people try to replicate having something
that is a staple or a signature for the team. Well,
(09:56):
I mean that was something that he started and and
that is you know, that is tremendous, a tremendous part
of the establishment of what the Pittsburgh still is represents.
So yeah, for me, it was that's an easy one.
That's that's Myron Copin and you know and stan Cyvereign. Yeah,
it's uh, a lot of just legends and you look
(10:18):
back on you think to yourself, you didn't realize the
impact they had until you get older and you go, God,
it just takes me right back to that moment. Vince Sculling.
There's a lot of people out there listening to this
that here Vin Scully, here the voice. It takes him
right back to that moment, and that's a testament to
again what a great broadcaster he was. But anybody you
talked to him. We're gonna catch up with Petros Papadakis
(10:38):
coming up an hour three. I know Petros was a
huge fan of Vin Scully. Obviously spent time around him
working at AM five seventy l A Sports, the home
of the l A Dodgers, and so it'll be interesting
to see some of the stories and some of the
memories of Petro's had. But a lot of people pouring, uh,
you know, whether it's social media or going on television
or radio talking about the great Vince Goalie, and it's
(11:00):
absolutely deserved a legend and rest in peace and thoughts
and prayers to his family. Be sure to catch live
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(11:27):
Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, Bario Separate. Definitely,
what do you mean, thank you, Berto, Thank you man.
You don't get it. You don't know, man, this works,
it is. We gotta ask Berto too, by the way,
I just can't. I don't feel right moving too much
further without asking Berto his thoughts on go ahead, t
(11:51):
m up, okay, up to show. Just make sure you
tee up Berto to get his moment. So we are
gonna get here from Roberto on the passing of Vin Scully. Obviously,
Roberto being the biggest Dodger fan here at the network, um,
even more so than some of these other posers that
walk around here. Legitimate Dodger fan. But it is two
(12:14):
pros and a cup of Joe here at Slavar Arrington,
Brady Quinn Jonas knocks with you here on FS are
so burt. Oh, obviously the passing of Vin Scully. How
did that land with you? Oh? Man? It was sad. Uh.
Vin was a voice of my childhood. Man. Remember going
to the Dodger games as a kid and just seeing
everybody with the radio transistor radio. It was amazing. Uh.
He was a voice of my childhood. And I don't
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know how privileged I was as uh until I got older,
how privilege I was to have Vin as a you know,
the voice of the Dodgers, and uh, it was it
was kind of like a grand uh, a grand like
a grandpat to me because I I really, I really
didn't grow up with grandparents. They're obviously in Mexico. My
both of my grandmothers died when they were very young.
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So it was kind of like a grandpot to me
in a in a kind of like the showed me
everything about introduced me everything about baseball. Yeah, he was awesome, awesome,
awesome dude from everybody to career points to. Yeah, like
you do take for granted. I think sometimes when you
grow up in a market where you have someone like
Vin who's like the voice what you're accustomed to, you
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go somewhere else and you hear, like, what there the
voice of like some of their teams sounds like you're going,
oh okay, yeah, I could have grown up with this.
It's it's it's a little different. Wow. I mean, I know,
you have to honest, I mean, you know, I mean,
he's he's you know. Vince Scully was fantastic and Joel
Davis did a great, great job last night. Man, he
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did great because it happened like during the game, right cheez,
like that lands in your lap while you're trying to
do a broadcast and it's the guy you replaced and
who never replaced, Vince Gully. But he's he's done a
great job. Yeah, so again uh good uh, good stuff
on Vince Scully and Petros Papa veegis the old P's
gonna join us next hour. He'll have more on that
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as well to obviously being uh in the l A
market his entire life, So that that, amongst other things.
I mean, Cattris and I spent some time earlier with
sweet and he was educated me on Catalina. So I
do think it's it's only fair that, um Petros, you know,
it gets you guys up to date with some of
the things you should know about Catalina Island. Yeah, oh
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you're not. You were? Was that the first you heard
of Catalina? No? No, I've been there before. But it's
it's a little different when you have Petris give you
the history of I've never gone over the island. Well,
I talked about, oh you gotta take a boat over there,
and that, Oh you just never gotten around the door
in it. You'd love it, you'd love it. It's small,
but I mean you can you know they got places
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a golf cart around like the original school house and
stuff like that or whatever, and that I heard a
lot about it. I don't think there could be any
new construction over there. Again, I don't want to go
off on a tangent like this, but um yeah from
what from what Petros it was describing to me, like
you have to remodel like what's already there, like you
you're you can't like build on vacant land. So it's
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it's a pretty unique place in that sense. Interesting alright,
So we got that to look forward to as well too.
With with Patros plus whatever else stream of consciousness comes
to mind with him when he wakes up and uh
turns on the machine and then just starts ranting like
he usually does, which is always the fun part. So
that will be coming up next hour. Um all right,
So uh from the classy Vin Scully to DeShawn Watson.
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Uh so it is a smooth transition here as we
uh get we get the very latest. So Tony Buzzby,
who represented the accusers of Deshaun Watson obviously throughout this
entire time, and um, he made the decision in the
announcement yesterday that he is going to have a press
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conference coming up tomorrow on Thursday afternoon in Houston to
update the public on the quote status of the Deshaun
Watson and Houston Texans cases, to provide comment regarding the
pending NFL proceedings. Now, it's interesting because the NFL has
until Thursday at nine am Eastern Time, just a couple
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hours before this scheduled press conference, to decide whether or
not they're going to appeal the six game suspension that
was handed down. And there is some speculation. Aaron Wilson
of Pro Football Network is speculating that the NFL is
thought to be leaning towards appealing this to try and
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add on some more punishment to it. And I just
wonder this, if the NFL knows that that Tony Buzzby
is going to have this scheduled press conference on Thursday,
and that several of the plane in is are going
to be there and they're going to be standing behind
Tony Buzzby as he updates everybody on the situation. Ashley
so Leese, who was the first one to come out publicly.
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She was featured on HBO's Real sports. If the NFL
knows that Tony Buzzby is going to be standing there
with the plainiffs giving his thoughts and potentially some of
their thoughts, although limited because there are some you know,
some some stuff that was filed in the civil court
and these lawsuits, they can't obviously reveal all their information
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because that would be violating whatever sort of non disclosures
they have. If that's the case, do you think the
NFL goes, dude, we can't just let this appeal opportunity
pass us by. And then a couple hours later have
these women step up emotional about the situation, and everyone's
looking at us, going, so you still had a chance
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to appeal this, and and you still, after all that
you knew you just let it pass by. It's why
I think there's going to be an appeal. I really do.
Um yeah, I think I think you're writing that sense
only because of the optics of it. And it seems
like Tony Buzzby is as good of a job as
any attorney at and think of play in the media
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the court of public opinion to put pressure not only
in Deshaun Watson and and his team, but also the
NFL to a degree, So I guess I'm right there
with you on this. I don't know, though, I mean, ultimately,
the NFL is going to do what they want to do,
and even if it looks bad for you know, a week,
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they'll move on that there will be games being played.
We all know. Once games start being played, it shifts
and turns everyone's attention. I mean, even even though the
you know, Dolphins news that kind of broke out and
all that stuff almost kind of flies under the radar
because after the Watson stuff, then it's the Dolphins stuff.
The next thing you know, it's it's injury news, it's
contract stuff, it's it's I mean, it's a constant news
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site in the Hall of Fame game a few hours
later after all. I mean, That's that's why I feel
like if they ended up doing nothing and the games
kicks off starts playing, it wouldn't surprise me either. That's
what I think. That's what I think is going to happen.
There not gonna do anything, um And I think it's because,
I mean, listen, as soon as as soon as I
saw the tampering allegations and the punishment, well not allegations,
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but that the tampering penalty come down. I'm like, all right,
here we go. It's it's it's the season, and there's
going to be more news that becomes relevant to sports fans.
I think it's going to be people who don't live
within the realm and the circle of the media cycle
of of the NFL that they're going to have their
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outrage regardless, and and if they already have it, they're
gonna have it no matter what what takes place. So
I think I think in terms of, you know, how
it was handled, I think they still can lean on
the fact that they high this is just me. I
think they still can lean on the fact that they
hired a woman that has a strong background um in
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in the legal field as a jug much as a
former judge. I know people have made jokes about it.
That's probably why he's a former judge. Yeah, well, I'm
sure the people who have said that weren't judges. So
I just think that they're going to lean on what
they did in terms of who they appointed as the
person that arbitrated the situation. I think it's honestly for
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as as comfortable as it may seem, and and we've
been using pundit, you know a lot lately, So for
all of of of the media pundance that are out
here saying that, oh, the pressure is too high and
they've got to do it, and the percentage of of
women that watch the sport and that, how do you know,
the percentage of women that watch the sports aren't sitting
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there and have an opinion that may be different than
the one that that people are making it out to be,
you know. So to me, I I just look at
it as this is one of those deals they they
put the process in play to be able to get
out of the way of whatever the verdict, the the
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conclusions was going. Yeah, the decision, I keep saying verdict.
I don't want to say verdict technically be right in
this case. Yeah, I just but it sounds legal. It
sounds so legal. Um what what I mean? Yeah? It
was her verdict. But anyway, regardless, I just think that
they put themselves in a position to actually damage themselves
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by going over top of it rather than allowing what
the what you call it again? The what? What is
she She's not the arbitrator, She's the one the NFL
disciplinary officer. Okay, there, you so as far as them
doing that, I think that you gotta ride with it. Well,
I think that's my idea of I do love the
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fact that in her conclusion she kind of threw it
back on the NFL like, well, this has been your
precedent that you have set previously. I mean when she
talked about like the timely fashion and you know Watson's
you know team not being aware of certain things, and
um just the pressing that they had said in previous
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situations of non violent um, you know, sexual acts or
I figured exactly how she described it. But when when
when she laid all that stuff out, it was almost
like she just was like, well, this is what you
guys done in the past, and so I'm not gonna
do anything past this because this is my first time
doing this and I'm gonna use that as the barometer
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for for what we're going to do here. It was
just it almost put more pressure on the NFL because
they're like, wait a second, we thought you were gonna
come in like lay down the hammer on on on
Deshaun Watson, and now we've got to basically come back
and decide like do we want to take this first
time that we would go through this process, do we
want to you know, appeal this where it goes to
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Roger Goodell because that's how the cb A set up,
and we've got more control over how long we want
to punish, whether it's ten games, twelve games, full season,
And it's gonna be really hard for them not to
sit there and say it's a kangaroo court, Like, of
course they should be able to get what they want
in an appeals process if Roger Goodell alto Way is
the arbiter that and it seemed like the great divide
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for her was non violent to violent, Like that was
she she viewed it as non violent, which is why
she wasn't going to impose any anything more more In
today's dann A's with so many issues around mental health
and the impact and the toll that it takes on people,
that was probably the most surprising thing to me is
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that you needed to differentiate violent non violent. But bar
you brought up the best point, like there there might
not have been a a violent act that was that
was you know, created there, but there was a violation.
You said that earlier this week, and like I sit
there and go, like the impact that that has on
people's mental health can be scarring for the rest of
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their lives. You might not be able to see the scars,
but for the rest of their lives are could be
dealing with that. I'll tell you what if I got
spanked by my parents, it hurt in the moment. Ten
minutes later I was playing like nothing ever happened. When
I disappointed my family and my parents and I had
to look at the disappointment on their face. It had
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a much longer, it had a much harder, you know,
impact on me, you know. And and the idea of
it is is that some of the things that aren't
physical aren't the most damaging to to a person, you know.
And and and that's the thing about it, Like you know,
we both talked about, you know, we have daughters. I
can't imagine something that would have happened to them that,
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you know, okay it maybe it wasn't a valent act,
but there was physical acts involved. Keep that in mind.
There were physical acts involved, and even though not considered
or deemed valent, that's still something that will impact those
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those ladies for obviously for for a very long time,
if not for the rest of their lives. And I
don't want to speak for them on their behalf, but
I can only imagine, you know, when you find yourself
in a situation where you've you've been violated in that way.
And so to me, I thought that was interesting as well.
Even though by the I guess the lay of the
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law or how how worning works, that's what it is.
They weren't valid acts, valient sexual acts of misconduct or whatever.
But I just to me, I think the best thing
that that the NFL could have done, that they could
undo by by by appealing it, whether people like it
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or not, is is that they appointed a woman to
doing it. It's a woman, it's not a man. If
a man did this, appeal it like, nope, we're appealing
it like your tone deaf you you don't get it
that that you're insensitive to it. We're we're going to
appill it. And people will be like, you know what,
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it's a guy, like why they do it? Boys club,
the whole deal, good old boys, whatever you want to
do call it. But this was a woman that did
it right and and and I think that that was
the to me, that was the most strategic move and
what was done. And appointing a woman to do it.
By the way, Brady's Buddy is drinking Buddy on St.
(26:31):
Patty's Day. Jeff Darlington of ESPN he said that if
the NFL does appeal this, that he's heard that Deshaun
Watson side will be filing a lawsuit, that Watson and
the NFL p A would file a lawsuit and that
move would result in a temporary restraining order, which means
that it would delay the punishment and he could possibly
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be available for the start of the season. So there's
there's all that added to it. I mean, it gets
it legally get so complicated, and just to go back
to what you said, LaVar, I think the one thing
and talks about her conclusion that also stood out is,
you know, typically you're gonna use different you know, facts, presents,
things of that nature that have been set before within
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the NFL in order to to create her decision or verdict.
I just there's usually an element of like their own
experience and opinion, Like there's a reason why we appoint
certain people to be whether it's an NFL and disciplinary
and officer or a judge, Like, usually their own life
experience and their own judgment, like plays a role in
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all of that with the facts, and that's what that was.
What was crazy to me is maybe in this role
like that has nothing to do with it, you know,
as compared to when she's a judge or when she
was a judge. But that's the other part of it,
is like there was no like kind of human element
of like, hey, I can see it from this perspective
as a woman like that that really never came up
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Right now, we go to a Petros Pop and Kis.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
heard on the Blowtorch AM five seventy l A Sports
also a Fox College Ball analyst. Petro's obviously a tough
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morning with the passing of Vince Scully, But you grew
up in southern California. Uh, guy was a legend and
for everything I've never met him, but for every day
I've talked to. Uh, just a great dude to interact with.
And obviously you being at the Dodgers flagship, in the
home of the Dodgers AM five seventy, I'm sure you've
had countless run ins with Ben Well. Yeah, we got
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to know him. Uh. I met him when I was
first broadcasting. I don't know, maybe when I was about
five or six years in because I worked at Fox
Sports West and that's who had the Dodgers for years
and years and years. In fact, they created that cable station,
Fox Sports West to just to carry the Dodgers, and
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that was very innovative in the world of local sports
and putting stuff on TV. But yeah, I got to
meet him when I was much younger and then we
would interview him or or go see him in the
booth every once in a while. He was a very
private man. It's not that he didn't want to see
people or was not super kind, I mean really kind
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and engaging to everybody, but people it was different. You know,
like when you would walk up at the forum after
a game or at halftime, you know you would high
five Chickherne. I mean, chickhern was was really like with
and part of the crowd and the people, and Vin
kind of had a different, different seat in the stadium,
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a different perspective, but he was just I mean when
the first time he says your name, it's you know you,
it buckles your knees because it's such a it's such
an impactful voice. And he really was in all honesty.
I mean you could ask every stage manager, producer, director,
and I know many of them that got to work
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with him over the years. Uh, and it's just an
unbelievable experience to have worked games or have in around
Vince Gully. And those are the people. I mean, there's
a lot of people that are going to be hurting today,
and mostly it's fans. It's people that just we're part
of this guy's career, and his career was part of them,
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and it was just a community thing, and it was
very special for a long time, very long time here
in Los Angeles, in Brooklyn, just because of how good
he was and who he was and what he brought
to a broadcast. I mean for years, I don't think
he wore a headset, so a director would just follow him.
So basically he just direct the show. Once he starts
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talking about something, they put a camera on it, and
he was he I mean, it's just guys, he was
absolutely brilliant. There's not enough words to describe what a
force of greatness he was in our business and what
a comfort he was to people and all kinds of
different situations. It's really sad, but at the same time,
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I mean, look, we all got to be around Vince
Gully years old. And when Sandy died, his wife died
a little over a year ago, I think, and that
kind of took a lot of the that You just
could tell there was a lot of the urgency kind
of left his voice. He was. It was. It was sad,
but also very pretty, you know, they were they were
really really close, and it's a it's a sad day,
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but also a great day to celebrate. I know I'm rambling,
but it's early in the morning. No, no, no, no,
it makes sense too. I mean, obviously, something like this, it's,
as you said, impact so many people. You'll never see
this again though from from every nothing ever, I mean,
sixties seven years, I mean, that's just it's unbelievable. So
he started when he was seven with the Dodgers. Yeah,
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he started way back. A Red Barber hired him. And
Red Barber was a really great announcer obviously, and Red
Barber had that kind of clear tone, very similar to
what Vin kind of adopted. And just generationally, I mean,
you're talking about a guy who knew Jackie Robinson well
and was there to see that whole thing go down.
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And for somebody to be able to convey what it
was like riding your bike around New York City on
D Day, you know, for somebody that could be able
to convey clearly, beautifully, poetically what it was like in
all these situations, whether it was very small globally, you know,
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just for the Dodger organization in baseball, like you know,
the death of Don Drysdale or or something terrible like
that or something global and horrible like nine eleven, or
or you know, any kind of war that we've had
over the years. Scully was he was just he always
had the very very right and most perfect tone. And
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you know that one thing that's funny about Vince Scully
is there's two things that Vince Scully did that we
can all learn from as broadcasters. And it's the other
thing everybody tries to do is all the stuff that
he did that he could all we do, Like I
don't want to hear a thirty year old guy talk
about D Day and try to act like he was there,
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just because Vin used to be able to do that.
But the one thing Vinn always did really well was
he was not a homer. I mean, Vin called it
really straight, and sometimes he was really complimentary some of
the the opponents of the Dodgers. He just really liked
certain players, and that would piss people off some people,
you know, because he was, uh, not a homer. And
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the other thing he had was timing. You know, he
had wonderful and and and really strong timing. And that's
what broadcasters can learn from Vince Gully, not like, oh,
I'm gonna tell a bunch of personal stories about this
guy and weave it into the broadcast because nobody could
do it like him, nobody. That's so cool that you
said that, because I made that point earlier about how
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he wasn't uh, you know, a homer, and how he
was very very balanced, and how he did his coverage
of the game. So I think that's really cool that
you you brought that up. Why are you laughing? Did
not what a low blow? I just I mean, we're
having a heartfelt conversation about Scully, and Lafar used it
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to take a shot at you. Jonas. Yeah, unbelievable, York
I was actually giving him a compliment, But I mean
that's true. Petro's when I was thinking about you coming
on today, before obviously you're Scully's death, I was hoping
you could like these guys on Catalina, like we had
such a Yeah, all this stuff you're telling me, Yeah, cattle,
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a ten year old kid in Catalina will beat your
ass if you're fourteen and you're a student, like a
student day trip or retreat. It's what do you mean?
There's some there's some salty locals out there and surfers.
Is it like Hawaii there's no waves. But don't they
don't they don't. They fight for the little ones that
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they have over there. There's like there's like the surfer
crew of long Ago. Guys, it's been a long few days. Guys,
what's wrong with him? He's a longer. What's what's wrong
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with him? Longer? Well, I hope you die. I hope
you die. I don't take, I don't take. I don't
keep no, I don't take no lip from no park,
keep neither. If you find yourself on the backside of Catalina,
we'll goind of wrap somebody on the bear to get
some respect her on him. Okay, here's the deal. The
backside of Catalina has a few things. Uh Well, first
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of all, there's two towns in Catalina. There's Avalon, which
you know where the Cubs used to have the the
spring training very very logistical nightmare. You think the Big
ten for USC and U c l A is hard.
Try having Chicago spring training in Catalina Island where you
have to cross the channel every time, which is not
an easy crossing but a lot unless you're in a
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big boat. But Avalon is you know, it's a town.
There's stuff there that not much. It's a very small
island town and a lot of people drive golf carts
and there's rationing and stuff like that. And then there's
Two Harbors, which is over Moore and that's more like
very kind of remote. Catalina is a conservatory and the
Wrigley family used to own it and they gave it
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back to the state and now you can't build anything
there unless you knock something else down. So the backside
of Two Harbors is a place called cat Harbor Catalina Harbor,
and the people that are moored in that that area,
they are they don't have a last name. You know.
It's like it's like, who's that as well thought, that's Bob.
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He lives on his boat. Well, what when does he go?
He comes in once every two weeks to get his
mail and somebody asked him his last name once and
he choked him to death. You know, I mean that's
you know, that's like the jalis called Cartel wants you dead.
You're hiding on the back side. And then there's Shark Harbor,
which is like super milky and sharky and all kinds
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of stuff on the backs. But that is the end
of the world. And I didn't tell you either, Brady.
The legend of the white giants that used to live
in Catalina. The white giants, well, there was a guy,
the Wriggley's, you know, they let some god Norwegians, no, no,
like giant white that there used to be. Well, they're
still the Tonga people who were the Native Americans that
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lived in this area when the Spanish came, and they
had a lot of them over there in Catalina, and
they tell legends of giant like twelve fifteen foot white
haired giants that lived over there on Land's End in
Catalina that disappeared when the Conkista gro doors came. Now,
legends are legends. However, the Wriggley family let this guy
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who was not an archaeologist, he was an amateur, but
they let him dig whatever he wanted in Catalina, and
he ended up desecrating thousands and thousands of graves. And
they had a bone museum there. But guess what, dude,
they found some like four ft femurs, and they found
the giant poems and there are pictures of these giant bones.
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But it was so uh, it was such a travesty
that he did what he did, uh, desecrating those graves
and not a real archaeologist. That a lot of people
were just horrified, and they reconsecrated a lot of the graves.
And no one talks of the white giants. I mean,
Petra's how do we know somebody didn't just drop off
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like two three giraffes and let him walk around. And
that's where they confused. They have like a full human
bones dude, like fifteen feet of the white giants. Do
you don't get you guys don't know. I don't even
know what to say after that, like to go over
there and make one of those dudes a d n
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I'm glad we go. Okay, now you gave us something.
All right. So the kid from Low South like he
goes and visits, Uh all right, let me help the
national listeners. Uh, what the hell are we talking about?
Is that the where they do the horse racing. Yes
(40:09):
it is mcay McKay nelson. I believe it's the name
of the kid, right, yeah, yeah, But the star recruit.
He's the number one or one of the bigger one
quarterbacks in the country. I've seen took Archie Manning well,
arch arches a little overrated in my opinion. Wow, oh
(40:31):
my god, taking up the Manning family, Oh my god.
I mean, well, I just taking Louisiana school doesn't really
have the I don't think they have the competition level
of my low sound prifence some of those highlights. You're going,
all right, why who they're playing here? Exactly? Thank you, Brady.
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Somebody finally say something, no, I've watched. I mean, this
is the Oh my god. Last night some sec woman
was screaming at me. Actually very nice woman, but she
was like, you know, arts went to Texas and now
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we don't know what to do. I was like, dude,
his dad cupperheads tenosis of the spine and that's why
he didn't play like Peyton and he Petro's How was
the the Fox Retreat? Did you get to spend some
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time with Brady and you guys, we spent a little time.
I mean, it's it's chaos, you know, like because like
so many people, I mean, it's wonderful. Like I I
was less nervous this year for whatever reason. I had
a better time seeing a lot of my friends and uh,
there's just a lot of people that I've traveled around
the country with, you know, the last twenty years. You know,
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people I was with when my grandma died, people I
was with, you know, we've all we've been together throughout
the years. And I've been on so many crews at
Fox that I mean, it's literally like almost no time
to eat because there's so many people to talk to
and engage and have fun with. And uh that was
that part of it was really cool. And I met
Sean Payton. Yeah, and I have some New Orleans knowledge,
(42:19):
so I dropped a couple of places on Peyton. He
was like, damn boy, you know the Senate, you know what.
And it was late at night and then uh uh oh,
Jason Bennetti we hired, which I just think is a
wonderful higher Like, you know, that's what that it's hardening
(42:39):
to me about Fox because the people that run Fox
Brad's Anger, Judy uh boyd h and Eric Shanks. Well
Judy is married to a guy played Pop Warner football
with uh and lives in my hometown. But those guys
their production oriented people, like they care about production and
(43:00):
putting the game on as as opposed to just sales.
And they hire really they hire great announcers you know,
you see a good announcer, you're like, Wow, that guy's
really good, and then you see him a year or
two later and Fox has hired him. It's it's always
good to see that. But it was it was fun.
It was really good. And Brady walks around like, you know,
like a prince, like Prince hal Shakespearean. You might as skull,
(43:25):
you know, you know what outside of the guys yesterday,
because they asked you, like, what does Petrol's come along
actually come on tomorrow? What are you talking about? I go, honestly,
I'm gonna ask his opinion on nuticals. They're like nuticals.
I was like, yeah, they're like you know, if you
have to new to your dog, it's like the replacement
face fake balls. Yeah, fake balls, the fake for dogs
(43:46):
the men too. Yeah, so you're not like a uniballer. Yeah,
I mean I don't think my dog. I mean, does
it really matter that my dog has an empty sack? Yeah?
I don't know, but it's hard for me to look
at like I couldn't like I would do it if
(44:06):
we have a female dog. So that's not really an
issue there, but it just feels like fake boll get
her fake boobs up. You know, it's like if it
feels like fake boobs for your dog, but it's like,
what do we do fake boobs? Well, why would you
do it? Like why would you add some good imagine that? Though, well, yes,
it's like putting fake like fake ball sack. It's like why,
(44:27):
But it's not. It's not that different from the guy
who's got like the ball sack hanging from the back
of the truck. You know rust trucks. Somebody hung truck
nuts on my truck. Oh, I'm pretty sure it was
my radio partner. Yeah, it was like a bright red.
It was back when I had like a bread cool
(44:48):
aid red. If you're Chevy Silverando that we had infected
red truck. If you're full gonea truck. If you were
if you were going to give your dog fake tests,
you gotta go right. You have to go big. Yeah,
you have to be like south Park. Now, now he's
gonna have a wheelbarrel to drag him around. Two cantaloupes
(45:11):
and a duffel bag. Was that American pot with the
bulldog that was was full? Which one was that where
they took it and they put it in the pastries?
Was that American job. Oh my god, was the big
you know, listen, let's talk about let's talk about I
(45:35):
was gonna say I didn't wait to stick to landing on,
you know, and he was doing so heartfelt and doing
all that. And now we have a full balls on
a bulldog. Uh it is you took it to cute
the noodles. I've never heard of anybody like come into
a locker room or anywhere and be like, hey, guys,
my balls are full. Some people all the good euphanism
(46:05):
is I'm suffering from a hostage. Christ get pro Pedro's
on Twitter at the old p and if you wanted
to send over images of truck nuts to him, you
could probably do that as well. To please go like
Petros will do it again next week. Thank you, guys,
(46:27):
God rest soul. He was. He was the best that
ever was and there will never be anybody like that
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