August 5, 2022 • 38 mins
The guys predict what will come from the appeal of Deshaun Watson’s 6-game suspension. Matthew Stafford is dealing with tendonitis in his throwing elbow and Saints Tackle Trevor Penning loves being a “last-touch” guy. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys kick the tires on Anthony Barr and a Friday edition of the BQ News.
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Here and uh, I do have a little bit of
good news for you guys. What's that? Yeah, it's a
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football Friday. Yeah, football Friday. Here on where God it is. Yeah,
come yeah, football Friday down, Slam football frintway here. Yeah,
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how bad it man? And we're gonna have football forever
a right, like all the way through February. So we
had a game last night, the Hall of Fame game,
which we broke down. Now you can go back and
check out the podcast that we opened up. The show
a full breakdown, full breaks of the entire Hall of
Fame game last night between the Raiders and the Jaguars.
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A lot of optimism coming out of Raiders camp after
seeing that game. And if you're a Jacksonville Jaguars fan,
well you can't blame Urban Wire anymore. So so you're
gonna have to find somebody else to blame for another
subpar season. But there's all that that we broke down,
so you can check that out. Um now I do
have uh al right, so there's I just want to
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ask you as a question here, what's the question. Here's
the question. Do you believe that Deshaun Watson? Right? So
this is this is the yeah, okay, because this is
there's a couple of news items here that we need
to get into. Do you believe that Deshaun Watson would
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rather be suspended for twelve games and get a ten
million dollar fine, or be suspended for the entire season
with no fine. I agree, I agree, I think I
think the money is very important to him when all
this um and I don't know if it's because he
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had to pay out a significant amount with some of
these settlements, but I just wonder if the real sticking
point was the fine through all of this, and that's
why we're at we're at when it comes to DeShawn Watson.
That's uh, that's just just my my two cents on
the whole thing. So we wanted to see you again.
I mean, look, realistically, I think, yeah, the money for
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sure plays an issue in all of this, right, especially
with the way they structure the contract, and especially considering
there was a reason why he's in Cleveland. It was
the contract that ultimately lead him there as opposed to
being a part of you know, other franchises at the
Atlanta Falcons in particular. So obviously the money is gonna
play a role in all of it. The suspension not
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quite as much, because you're talking about, you know, basically
what he was gonna be presenter for six games out
of seventeen. That's roughly one third of his seven thousand
dollars he's making in bass salary this year, right, so
he's he's losing roughly what like, you know, fifty grand
or so. So um, now you're looking at maybe double that,
So maybe only he loses five thousand from that. That
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the ten million dollar fine is a ten million dollar fine.
It doesn't matter what his salary is. That's what he's
got to pay. And I think the other thing that's
important about this not that the NFL p a UH
necessarily cares or even Watson cares, but from the NFL standpoint,
they've got to do this, like they've got to set
a precedent here where you've got something that we've never
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seen before and they have to lay down the hammer
and all that and has has nothing to do with
Calvin Ridley. It has nothing to do with anything else.
It just specifically has to do with this issue of
how we go about determining what is violating the Player
Conduct Policy and also how how we go about, you know,
determining what we view sexual assault as where it's not
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just some physical altercation. It can be something where you
do some egregious, some heinous things in front of a
woman that can be mentally scarring even though there wasn't
any you know, physical activity, or in some of the
cases there may have been, even though it wasn't you know,
the type of altercation that we're accustomed to seeing. I mean,
they've got to be able to, you know, provide some
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more clarity with what the punishment is and not how
this blanket six games suspension that applies to other instances.
And I think that's the tough part about reading the
conclusion of Suell Robinson is she basically drew from previous
incidents and said, look, the NFL, you know, hasn't been
overly clear about how this would differentiate from that. So
I'm basically giving him a six game suspension for violating
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the player Conduct Policy. So I think the tough part
for the appeal is how does the NFL change the
suspension from six to twelve or even a full year
with looking at what Suell Robinson's conclusion was, Like, what
additionally are they gonna take from what she is determined
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or decided the punishment should be, and how are they
going to double the suspension or triple it and out
a fine on top of it. That's what I'm gonna
be curious to see. I guess my whole take on
it at this point is d Sean as long as
he gets in the operatunity city to play at some
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point in time, UM should be happy that he gets
the opportunity to play again at some point in time
and make money doing it. Like whatever the suspension is,
whatever the punishment is that comes um with this appeal,
I mean, to me, looking at his situation, Deshaun Watson
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should be happy that he still gets an opportunity to
continue to play. I mean, and and so whatever it
is he's had to pay out and settlement money, whatever
it is that he has to pay out and find money,
whatever it is that the NFL asked him to do.
However many games they decide to suspend them, Deshaun Watson
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should be really, really focused in on more importantly than
playing football, throwing balls, making plays, getting touchdowns, getting paid.
Deshaun Watson really should be thinking about, you know what,
the first thing he should say, and the first thing
he should say is, I'm gonna take this time to
really work on myself. I'm gonna take this time to
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really try to improve myself and become a better person
because I've caused harm and and in people's lives, and
you know, this is this is a time for me
to to really work and do some self improving on
on me, and and really that should really be the
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conclusion of it, because there could be so many different
scenarios that are discussed, the legal lawsuit aspect of it,
the what's next and and all of that, and how
many games it is and how much money it is.
But the bottom line is is that he broke the rules,
and he broke the rules in a way where it's
just kind of there's no way you get out from
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underneath how bizarre this is. Whether you want to say
he did something or he didn't or what are the details,
it's bizarre. The whole thing is, like, it's very very bizarre.
And I just think he put himself in this position,
and the best, the best case scenario for him really
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at this point is any scenario that leads to him
having the opportunity to actually be able to return and
play the game. If I were him, and I'm not
him because I'm not a weirdo, but if I were him,
I would just want this to be over with, all right,
find me whatever you want to find me. I'm still
gonna have plenty of money on the back end. And
then you suspend me the twelve games, it's that's what
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you're seeking. Let me make an apology or at least
acknowledge I'm sorry for anybody I offended, and then disappear
for a couple of months and come back and it's
over with, dude, Like, just at some point you gotta
move on, you don't You just want to rid yourself
of all this and just try and focus on your
career and get better like that would be that would
be my thought. Well, and the other thing is is
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I think a form of treatment like that was the
other thing from Suell Robinson's punishment is it didn't include
that she didn't say anything about him having to go
to any sort of rehabilitation and and you know, talk
with someone to move past this and improve himself as
you touched on LaVar. I mean, I think that's the
other thing in all of this that it was just
surprised me. I was like, Okay, just a six game suspension,
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like we don't want to maybe have him talk to someone,
I mean, because because as it seems right now, every
time the dude opens up his Instagram account, it seems
like he's looking at women like they should be doing
certain things to him, like he it was it's like
a very predator type, you know deal, which which is
just seems sick and crazy, and so there should be
some sort of rehabilitation to that. And that's where like
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that wasn't even any part of the punishment. So I'm
sure that on top of the fine, on top of
a bigger suspension, will be a part of how how
they end up deciding this. But it's it's just crazy
to me that, you know, it's gone on on this
long and he's never admit his guilt. I mean, technically
he's he's lied. If you actually look through all of it,
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he's he's lied about some of the stuff where he's
you know, claimed his innocence and he wanted to see
this through to go to court to clear his name. Well,
now you've settled, and now you've lied to a judge,
a former federal court judge, and you've lied to the NFL,
which may be one of the biggest reasons why they
end up doubling or tripling the amount of games that
he suspended. But even more than that. It's it's like
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at some point you've got to realize you've got a problem.
And that's where like that whole rehabilitation process should be
like a focal point in all of this, at least
for him personally. All Right, So you guys ready for
a little bit of a morning match game here on
a Friday morning of football, A good time for that, right,
So here's uh here, here we go into this morning
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match game. Alright, so maybe music, Yeah, of course, this
is southern California, masked up. Everybody's got gloves on, we're
all in has that suits. We're safe. Everybody is safe here.
You know that. You spent some time in socow, you
know it works out here, all right. So the band
is in the student of course. Yeah, and we're four
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or five months away from tuberculosis making a comeback. So
let's just let let's see what we got going on here,
all right. This is a match game here on a
Friday a speaking of Cleveland. Alright, So I figured we're
talking about Cleveland and the Brown speaking of Cleveland. So
here's how works. Guys. I am going to give you
a sentence. You must fill in the blank. You get
one guess each uh, and you can determine who goes first.
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This is Brady versus LaVar all right, it's a little
Ohio verse p A in this little morning match game.
And it's just a fun little match game. Nothing serious here.
All right, here we go. All right, Blank, We'll be
held in Cleveland later on this month. I'll repeat, blank,
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will be held in Cleveland later on this month. I'm
gonna go first. My response would be um, d s Okay, okay,
these very classy guy, easy, yeah, I got definitely got
it so classed through and through by Lavarrington name North
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Hills Hammer. But I would say a massage therapy convention. Boy,
that's uh. You guys are on. Believe you guys have
not in regards the Sun. Watson were just like I'm
saying the one. No, it's Cleveland and Cleveland all right,
So let me go ahead. I do have the answer here,
So let me open up the envelope. I mean, one
guy says d s. The other guy says, a massage
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therapy convention. These are broadcast professionals, folks. This is what
you tune in for. So let me open up the
envelope here. The answer is the now Massage Therapist Convention
feels so good. I just want to first, I want
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to first thank God, Um. I'd like to thank my
mom my dad for just give me the forth sight
to be able to see these sorts of things coming
into fruition. I want to thank my team. I want
to think well far showing us Lee, Roberto Eddie, all
the guys who made this possible, Don Martin, Scott Shapiro,
oh Man. I want to thank everyone, everyone out there,
all the fans, all the people who also talk trash
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on social media. I just can't thank you enough for
the motivation. You know, hashtag, you know b FT. How
about the American Massage Therapy Association the a m t
A based out of Illinois. They're going to hold its
annual conference at the Huntington's Convention Center in downtown Cleveland.
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It's within sight of the Brown's First Energy Stadium, so
it'll be held l I mean not technical, I mean listen,
we have judges here. But congratulations to Brady Quinn. B Brady,
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serve some sushi on it, you know. Oh gosh, oh gosh, unbelievable.
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the b Q News. We want a day without it.
We gotta get our fix in, you know, I gotta
scratch the a a little bit of a bump before
the weekend, you know, a little b Q News. And
that was really more hoping that we were not gonna
play a game show. I guess anymore harm well game show?
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Do you know this show? I mean, it's football season.
It's tough to fit it in. Yeah, that's well. I'm
you know, I feel like people are too good at it,
Like we haven't had anybody just bomb, like missed the
first two and then they go like everybody kind of
knows could have been the day though it could have
been the day. It's a great point. I'm just trying
to it in. I mean we I mean we couldn't
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play it. I mean, if you wanted to do it,
we could do it here coming up in about ten
minutes from now. I mean, if we really wanted to play.
But it's your call, you tell me. Brandon t quinn
And I'd like to have a little more time to
prep for it. I do have news preps, so it's
it's tough to That's that I hear you, all right.
So if you were hoping to play do you know
the show tough Balls, you can destace it back and
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enjoy it um. So there's a there's a situation in
the NFL that's kind of taking an interesting turn. So
Matt Stafford has uh not party. He's not participating in
team activities with the l A Rams because he's been
dealing with this what they're calling tendonitis um and it's
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a bad tendonitis according to Ian rapp Report and some
others out there in his throwing elbow. So he's not
participating in the team drills. And Sean McVeigh is trying
to be a little bit optimistic about the situation, but
he is acknowledging that this is unique to a quarterback.
Here was the rampside coach. It is a tricky deal
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and you want to make sure that you're getting with
the right people that are experts in this field. It's
a little bit abnormal for quarterback. You know, some of
this stuff is is things that you know MLB pictures
deal with, and so it is something that you know,
we're kind of learning about on the fly and and
his feedback and really trying to just figure out, Okay,
how do we get the best plan in place to
try to minimize some of the things that he was
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having to push through. Also giving him the confidence that hey,
I can really just you know, let it go, not
have to worry about it, play to the best of
my ability. So I know, the seasons a little over
a month away for them. But he did have a
procedure done this offseason. It wasn't a surgery. It was like,
what is that, like a plasma rich whatever they call
done to his elbow where he had some injections and
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all that. But then this sort of popped up on
him a couple of weeks ago and now it's become
an issue to where he can't participate and now they're
trying to navigate it. Anybody who's ever had tendonitis, I mean,
it's not like it gets better when you have to
play football coming up around the corner. And is he
just trying to be as optimistic as possible or it
should be it should people be really concerned with what's
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happening with Matt Stafford. I mean, it's something he's gonna
have to deal with. You know, you can rest it
now and take as much time as you want off,
but the reality is he's probably gonna be on a
pitch count every single week, you know, monitoring how much
you know he's doing in practice and whatnot. And look,
he's at the you know, at this point in time
in his career. I mean, the mental reps are as
important as anything you know physically, it's just making sure
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he's healthy and feeling good when he gets the game day.
So it's concerning from a performance standpoint, you know, physically
because he's played so long and obviously you want to
defend your super Bowl title. But um, it's it's not
like we're questioning whether Matt Stafford can play. He can.
It's just, you know, they they've got to be able
to find the right groove to get everyone prepared to
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go into game day because he's probably not gonna practice
and be thrown as much. And so these new concepts
you put in different things, you're trying to, you know,
test out with Alan rob Nstin for example, here's a
new edition their team. You're not gonna have quite as
many opportunities to get that chemistry. At least that's my anticipation,
but it's definitely concerning. It's just it's something that I
don't believe at this point at least is gonna go away.
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If you're dealing with us going into training camp, it's
gonna be nagging you the whole season. I just think that,
I mean that kind of sums it up. You gotta
deal with it, and and I think that you take
as much time and giving him the opportunity to have
to deal with it for less time. I mean, there's
nothing for him to prove in the preseason. And and
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if you're feeling like you gotta rest it and give
him as much time off of using it to to
kind of lengthen the level of play he can possibly
play at. I mean, it's just gonna come down. You know.
It's interesting. Some guys have high pain tolerance thresholds and
some don't. And I think it just comes down to,
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you know, it's by player. If Matthew Stafford is someone
who deals with pain well and and and can you know,
navigate the the amount of of discomfort that he may
have from from the tendonitis, then you know he should
be okay. You know, I don't know that tendonitis you know,
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worse thans your you know, like you pull a muscle
or you you you know, I don't. I'm not you know,
I'm not a medical person on it, but I'm I'm
pretty certain if you're able to move through the pain
of it, that you know, you should be okay. So, man,
it's really gonna come down to his pain tolerance and
and it's probably gonna come down to you know, them
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trying to make sure that they manage the pain. You know,
you always run the risk of getting too dependent on
certain things, like I know, for me when when I
was dealing with tendonitis in my knees, you know, you
gotta be very careful in terms of how you approach
these things. I I went from just getting rehab and
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treatment for preventative measures and stuff like that to having
to go in you know, literally probably like two more
hours earlier than what I did. And I would I
would contrast. I would hot tub, I would cold tub,
you know, I would do certain things you know, on
with with the you know, the machine ice and stems
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stuff like that. So yeah, I appreciate you had to
do a lot of different things that way just to
be able to honestly even have productive days of practice.
So it's just kind of one of those things you
don't want to get caught up into a situation where
you know you're using anti inflammatories too much. It's like
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always the you know, you gotta go get your blood taken.
You gotta figure out, you know what what is that
threshold and what is that balance that you can find,
and you know that will probably be what dictates, you know,
the amount of success that he has and longevity that
he's able to have with with that type of injury.
Did he suffer the injury throwing the photographer off the
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stage at the Super Bowl parade or was it after
I'm just now I'm wondering when that happened, actually touched
touched the Okay, I'm trying to Yeah, I'm trying to
identify the root of the issue and like where it
actually started. Like that's that's really the focus here. I'm
trying to come up with the answers here. You know,
I think a lot of people want to focus on problems.
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I'm trying to solve problems here. Like that's that's how
I look at this, you know, So listen, I mean,
by the way, if only there were a quarterback who
could be on the open market if this turns out
to be a serious injury. How about Jimmy g with
the Rams? He gets released and uh, you know Jimmy's
got a red ass against Kyle Shanny and John Lynch
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and uh signs up for the Rams to that or
John Woolford, the Gary Oldman stunt double as your quarterback
in l A. If you're the Rams either way, Bills
minus two week one hammer it, lay the hammer on
it right telling you right now, that's how it's going down.
I sent a blowout in that game, early early forecast,
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first game of the season, blow out. What do you
think about that? Brady? Once you take that to your
buddies who think they know gambling, you tell where you
got it from too. Everyone's gassing up the Buffalo Bills,
you know. I mean, I guess they think they're ready
to take that next step and go into super Bowl.
So I don't know that what you're saying is going
out on a limb. I mean, their favorite against the
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defending super Bowl champs, and I believe they're they're picked
up the best odds to win the super Bowl. So yeah,
you're not really going out on a limb by by
saying they should win. There the game that Vegas things
they should win. By the way, you know, only five
times in the history of the Super Bowl has the
preseason favorite actually gone on to win the Super Bowl.
So you're the Bills, I mean, enjoy it now that
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it's most likely not gonna happen. Yeah, So there's that.
It's two pros and a cup of Joe. Here Fox
Sports Radio coming up twelve minutes from now, We're gonna
have another edition of the b Q News. By the way,
do we have any updates? Trevor Penning been kicked out
of practice for a fourth straight day or was it
only three in a row? Here's all said that, Like,
I do love the fact he's one of those last
touch guys, like he wants to always kind of like
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bother you or agitates you, so whistle blows and he's
still gonna get a little shot in on you, but
he holds a lot Like this goes back to like
the Senior Bowl watching a game of his and everyone's
like all excited because he's like tough and he's starting
fights and that's cool at all. But I'm telling you
right now, he's gonna get called for a lot of
holdings this year because the way he plays like, it's
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just I'll be curious to see how it all works
out if everyone puts up with those antics, if he's
getting called for holdings everything like this is like yeah,
that the Senior Bowl And that was the conversation with him,
right that he's got a mean stream. There's even like
this video of him where he says, I love that
you can physically assault somebody across me and get away
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with it. Like he just you know, he loves he
loves the physicality. You know. It seems like a Dan Campbell,
anti fragile guy. That's what he seems like to me.
Uh well, what's that? Ash know what he's saying? No,
beget that. Uh thought better of it. Who's the Who's
the edge rusher that he's going to have a problem with?
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I mean, is he? Because I know Aaron Donald plays
inside but if if they meet up, he can he
can move outside from time to time. But you always
have to look more within your division, right So um,
I mean you could look at anyone at Tampa. The
edge I got a pretty decent front. Brian Brian Burns
is a problem for a lot of people in Carolina.
He's got a lot of speed off of the edge. Uh,
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you look at Atlanta, Probably not an issue there. So
I mean, what are you trying to? Yeah, he's got
the doc, has to has to showcase it, you know. Um,
it's hard to be a good pass rusher early. I
mean that's just you know, can they do it? Um?
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What about? I think he can do it. He's got
a good first step, he's got a good good technique.
I mean, how about you know there are people waking
up right now listening on the Blowtour AM five seven
the Blowtorch AM five seventy l A Sports. A man
who was who has been on AM five seventy l
A Sports before Anthony Barr. How about that brand? Remember
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the Dallas Cowboys. Huh he's bad man. Yeah, I'll tell
you what they say this about. You can say what
do you want about Jerry Jones? And if there's someone
out there and he thinks they can improve their team,
they'll they'll go get them, like they'll find a way
of going it at it into the roster for the
most part. But like there's another addition, man, Like you
think about Dan Quinn and what he can do with
you know, some of these edge guys. Uh and and
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I don't know. I look at Bar and I think
he could he could fit in a spot there with
Michael Parsons, given MICA's utility and Anthony Barr's ability to
move around. I mean what they already have like that,
that could be a good addition to that defense. How
was he a free agent? Was it his health? Like? What?
Why did they release him? Yeah? That was the Vikings
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release him. That was one of the interesting things too,
because I remember thinking to myself when this came up,
I was like, I forgot he was even a free
agent altogether, and like what took him so long? Which
some guys want to be a little more patient with it,
but Jonas is the more residents Minnesota Vikings fans, Yeah
got covered. I mean yeah, I mean listen, four time
pro bowler that Anthony Barr. I mean, you just tell
me how you want it. I mean, I can I
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get why again? I mean, it's it's a It's a
great question, and I think a lot of it comes
down to timing, a lot of it comes down to
situation in the NFL, and I just think in Minnesota
he had run its course. I mean he's staring thirty
years old straight in the eyes. He played a few
games last year, but you know, injuries have been a
little bit of a problem for him throughout the you know,
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the past several years. I mean, you know, he had
his three interceptions last year, but a lot of people
would look at that and go, well, there was some
luck involved in those, maybe some deflections and all that.
But I feel like Anthony Barr, maybe it's it's worth
taking a look at. It is a very talented linebacker room, obviously,
with Jabril Cox and Michael Parsons and Layton Vanderish and everybody.
But you know, he's going to know the surroundings. It's
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Oxen Hard. It's an hour or so away from from
the camp opposite u C. L A. So he just
hits up on the one oh one gets to Oxnard.
What else they call Oxnard? Is it called something else? Yeah,
I mean it's called knox NERD. He's a lot of
people called Knox SNRD obviously, you know, with you know
may upbringing and all that. You know, Ventura County to
hate over everywhere? Bro, Yeah, man, Midwest? Do you name it?
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You know another another piece of information of note here
is that George Etwards is a part of that that
defensive staff as well. You love George, I love him
to death. I think he's I think that he has
should have been considered for larger roles at this point
in his career. Yeah, to look him up, um, but
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he was. He was part of the architecture of of
when that defense was really you know, really clicking in
in Minnesota. Would he take over as d C if
if Dan Quinn leaves after this year? You know, I
don't know. I'm trying to think who else is on
that staff that would they would elevate. I mean, he's
qualified to do it. You know. It's surprised me. I
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was surprised me that he only got one year as
d C in Washington, Like I was, I was assuming
we need to get more because then he ended up,
you know, a linebackers coach in Cleveland after that, and
he just kind of bounced around, you know what I mean. Like,
I was just surprised that it only lasted one year
in Washington. You look at what the defense was ranked
that year, well, I mean, well with the Commandoes, yeah, yeah,
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well it wasn't called I played for the Washington Ridge,
but they're now called the Commander. God, I mean, what
are we doing here? Racist? Oh man, I don't see how.
What's next? Is Brady gonna talk about the baseball team?
Can I ask you guys a question, Here's a serious question.
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If I were to pull out my check stuffs from
when I played Washington Rich that was gonna end differently?
Is that is that racist of me to say, here's
my check stubbs and it says Washington Ridskins on my
check stops? Actually the name that they paid through, like
I know, UM, like some of the organizations that will
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be named something, but they actually when they pay you,
like there, their actual company name is something else. You know.
I got paid by the Washington That's what I said there,
Like the Washington it's like LLC or something or I
don't remember. I could go pull them because I remember
one of the teams I played for it was like
the um it was like maybe I don't know if
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it was the Browns or not, but one of them
was like the football club. Like that's how like it
was like the Cleveland Browns Football Club or something like that.
I was like, that's weird, Like like you don't like
usually like you see the official name and like this
name is not you know, necessarily like ever mentioned. I'm
just saying, that's all my check stuff. So I was
just curious, is that racist stuff? Yeah? What's come on, man,
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you're trying to get the show canceled. Gosh, alright, two pros.
I'm not lying. Am I being insensitive for saying that
that's all my my, my, my check stuffs. I mean,
I'm just saying, you guys still have an answer. I mean,
that's why we don't talk about the movie major. What
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was the question? Is that racist for me to say
that that's all my I personally don't think it is.
But in this uh, this day and age we live in,
I'm sure you can find some more on on Twitter
to say it is. Yeah, all right, you like, I'm
I'm sure if you really want to look, you can
find some absolute moron who thinks it is. Well, you
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know what, if it's wrong, then I need to go
re you know, visit my contract and get all these
new checks reissued to me under commandos. That would be nice,
because you know what, those other ones don't count because
the name doesn't exist. So I need to have a
Washington Commander's commando check. I need those check stuffs changed
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I like yeah with interests, Yeah, with interest chips dip
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Well how about this for a story to kick things off.
A woman was pulled over for drunk driving in a
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golf cart on Florida's busiest interstate. Yeah that's that's Interstate
runs all the way up the eastern seaboard, if you will.
But apparently a a semi truck driver observed her as
she was driving down the middle of the lane in
Bavard County. That's up there the space coast there where
where SpaceX and all that is. Uh, he observed her
(34:56):
passing out while traffic golf car in the middle of
the lane. He helped a director over to the shoulder
and called the troopers until they could arrive. Um, she
did try to drive off at one point, so the
truck driver did take her keys until authorities arrived. And
then at that point she was just trying to take
her bag and make sure the cops didn't get it because,
as one could imagine, she had an open bottle of
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Jack Daniels Tennessee Final. Okay, well, all right, so I
have a couple of questions, Um, what was did they
test her? Like? What did she owe? Was her blood out? It?
Did it? Did it? Did not? There's not a report
yet on what her b A C level was, but
I would imagine it was pretty high if she's passing
out while driving a golf car on a major highway. Mind.
And here's the other thing. Now, you own a golf card.
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I think you have, actually you have a whole fleet
of golf cards. Not alright, listen, well, I don't know
that's that's what I heard. But that's neither here nor there.
How fast does a golf card go top speed? It
depends if it's street legal or not. If it's street legal,
obviously it's it's allowed to go faster. If it's not
street legal, unless you're you know, messing with it. Um,
(36:00):
it's just go under like eighteen miles Prower. But but
it can go faster than that if it's street legal
and he hasn't a license plate's registered. Although okay, what
like she could have been going fast and I'll put
that so she's going thirty on a highway and sent
my trunk and his steer up the road. I mean
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talking about like asking for deaths year old kidding. I mean, hey,
you know what, though, I hope she's all right. Um,
I mean, do you like what what makes you look
more down on her? Is it the fact that she
was driving a golf cart on a highway drunk or
the fact that she was drinking Jack Daniels Tennessee fire whiskey.
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Honestly nothing, because she gave us this great story we
got to go in to the weekend with. Actually I'm
appreciative of her participation either, how about this one are
Utah man has been arrested on accusation that he started
a wild fire. Yeah, this thing actually got out of control,
and the reason being is he was trying to burn
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a burn a spider with his lighter. Um at least
that's what the report is indicating at this point time,
going up for a hike up in the foothills south
of Salt Lake City, uh, near the city of Springville.
And the probable cause at this point is that uh. Well,
after the deputies found a jar of mirror juana and
his belongings. Even though he didn't appear to be high. UM,
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they found a bit puzzling that he started the blaze
as he was trying to kill a spider with his lighter.
What kind of what are we talking like? Yeah, I
don't know, but the conditions were bone dry amid the
extreme drought conditions, so it didn't take much. Right now,
he's being held at the Utah County Jail on two
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thousand dollars bail. It sounds like a trantla to me.
You know, I wonder if he's going to have to
settle with that that spider. Spiders in depressed charities. We're
in the day and age of I wonder if he's
gonna I wonder if that spider is gonna have some
advocates come to its backing, Yeah, you still got all
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eight legs. Did he have a towel that accompanied his life?
Come on? The Marchese? Was the towel the reason they
for the blaze. I just would had ever touched him.
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Here and uh, I do have a little bit of
good news for you guys. What's that? Yeah, it's a
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football Friday. Yeah, football Friday. Here on where God it is. Yeah,
come yeah, football Friday down, Slam football frintway here. Yeah,
(01:23):
how bad it man? And we're gonna have football forever
a right, like all the way through February. So we
had a game last night, the Hall of Fame game,
which we broke down. Now you can go back and
check out the podcast that we opened up. The show
a full breakdown, full breaks of the entire Hall of
Fame game last night between the Raiders and the Jaguars.
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A lot of optimism coming out of Raiders camp after
seeing that game. And if you're a Jacksonville Jaguars fan,
well you can't blame Urban Wire anymore. So so you're
gonna have to find somebody else to blame for another
subpar season. But there's all that that we broke down,
so you can check that out. Um now I do
have uh al right, so there's I just want to
(02:07):
ask you as a question here, what's the question. Here's
the question. Do you believe that Deshaun Watson? Right? So
this is this is the yeah, okay, because this is
there's a couple of news items here that we need
to get into. Do you believe that Deshaun Watson would
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rather be suspended for twelve games and get a ten
million dollar fine, or be suspended for the entire season
with no fine. I agree, I agree, I think I
think the money is very important to him when all
this um and I don't know if it's because he
(02:50):
had to pay out a significant amount with some of
these settlements, but I just wonder if the real sticking
point was the fine through all of this, and that's
why we're at we're at when it comes to DeShawn Watson.
That's uh, that's just just my my two cents on
the whole thing. So we wanted to see you again.
I mean, look, realistically, I think, yeah, the money for
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sure plays an issue in all of this, right, especially
with the way they structure the contract, and especially considering
there was a reason why he's in Cleveland. It was
the contract that ultimately lead him there as opposed to
being a part of you know, other franchises at the
Atlanta Falcons in particular. So obviously the money is gonna
play a role in all of it. The suspension not
(03:31):
quite as much, because you're talking about, you know, basically
what he was gonna be presenter for six games out
of seventeen. That's roughly one third of his seven thousand
dollars he's making in bass salary this year, right, so
he's he's losing roughly what like, you know, fifty grand
or so. So um, now you're looking at maybe double that,
So maybe only he loses five thousand from that. That
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the ten million dollar fine is a ten million dollar fine.
It doesn't matter what his salary is. That's what he's
got to pay. And I think the other thing that's
important about this not that the NFL p a UH
necessarily cares or even Watson cares, but from the NFL standpoint,
they've got to do this, like they've got to set
a precedent here where you've got something that we've never
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seen before and they have to lay down the hammer
and all that and has has nothing to do with
Calvin Ridley. It has nothing to do with anything else.
It just specifically has to do with this issue of
how we go about determining what is violating the Player
Conduct Policy and also how how we go about, you know,
determining what we view sexual assault as where it's not
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just some physical altercation. It can be something where you
do some egregious, some heinous things in front of a
woman that can be mentally scarring even though there wasn't
any you know, physical activity, or in some of the
cases there may have been, even though it wasn't you know,
the type of altercation that we're accustomed to seeing. I mean,
they've got to be able to, you know, provide some
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more clarity with what the punishment is and not how
this blanket six games suspension that applies to other instances.
And I think that's the tough part about reading the
conclusion of Suell Robinson is she basically drew from previous
incidents and said, look, the NFL, you know, hasn't been
overly clear about how this would differentiate from that. So
I'm basically giving him a six game suspension for violating
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the player Conduct Policy. So I think the tough part
for the appeal is how does the NFL change the
suspension from six to twelve or even a full year
with looking at what Suell Robinson's conclusion was, Like, what
additionally are they gonna take from what she is determined
(05:41):
or decided the punishment should be, and how are they
going to double the suspension or triple it and out
a fine on top of it. That's what I'm gonna
be curious to see. I guess my whole take on
it at this point is d Sean as long as
he gets in the operatunity city to play at some
(06:02):
point in time, UM should be happy that he gets
the opportunity to play again at some point in time
and make money doing it. Like whatever the suspension is,
whatever the punishment is that comes um with this appeal,
I mean, to me, looking at his situation, Deshaun Watson
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should be happy that he still gets an opportunity to
continue to play. I mean, and and so whatever it
is he's had to pay out and settlement money, whatever
it is that he has to pay out and find money,
whatever it is that the NFL asked him to do.
However many games they decide to suspend them, Deshaun Watson
(06:52):
should be really, really focused in on more importantly than
playing football, throwing balls, making plays, getting touchdowns, getting paid.
Deshaun Watson really should be thinking about, you know what,
the first thing he should say, and the first thing
he should say is, I'm gonna take this time to
really work on myself. I'm gonna take this time to
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really try to improve myself and become a better person
because I've caused harm and and in people's lives, and
you know, this is this is a time for me
to to really work and do some self improving on
on me, and and really that should really be the
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conclusion of it, because there could be so many different
scenarios that are discussed, the legal lawsuit aspect of it,
the what's next and and all of that, and how
many games it is and how much money it is.
But the bottom line is is that he broke the rules,
and he broke the rules in a way where it's
just kind of there's no way you get out from
(08:00):
underneath how bizarre this is. Whether you want to say
he did something or he didn't or what are the details,
it's bizarre. The whole thing is, like, it's very very bizarre.
And I just think he put himself in this position,
and the best, the best case scenario for him really
(08:20):
at this point is any scenario that leads to him
having the opportunity to actually be able to return and
play the game. If I were him, and I'm not
him because I'm not a weirdo, but if I were him,
I would just want this to be over with, all right,
find me whatever you want to find me. I'm still
gonna have plenty of money on the back end. And
then you suspend me the twelve games, it's that's what
(08:41):
you're seeking. Let me make an apology or at least
acknowledge I'm sorry for anybody I offended, and then disappear
for a couple of months and come back and it's
over with, dude, Like, just at some point you gotta
move on, you don't You just want to rid yourself
of all this and just try and focus on your
career and get better like that would be that would
be my thought. Well, and the other thing is is
(09:02):
I think a form of treatment like that was the
other thing from Suell Robinson's punishment is it didn't include
that she didn't say anything about him having to go
to any sort of rehabilitation and and you know, talk
with someone to move past this and improve himself as
you touched on LaVar. I mean, I think that's the
other thing in all of this that it was just
surprised me. I was like, Okay, just a six game suspension,
(09:23):
like we don't want to maybe have him talk to someone,
I mean, because because as it seems right now, every
time the dude opens up his Instagram account, it seems
like he's looking at women like they should be doing
certain things to him, like he it was it's like
a very predator type, you know deal, which which is
just seems sick and crazy, and so there should be
some sort of rehabilitation to that. And that's where like
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that wasn't even any part of the punishment. So I'm
sure that on top of the fine, on top of
a bigger suspension, will be a part of how how
they end up deciding this. But it's it's just crazy
to me that, you know, it's gone on on this
long and he's never admit his guilt. I mean, technically
he's he's lied. If you actually look through all of it,
(10:06):
he's he's lied about some of the stuff where he's
you know, claimed his innocence and he wanted to see
this through to go to court to clear his name. Well,
now you've settled, and now you've lied to a judge,
a former federal court judge, and you've lied to the NFL,
which may be one of the biggest reasons why they
end up doubling or tripling the amount of games that
he suspended. But even more than that. It's it's like
(10:28):
at some point you've got to realize you've got a problem.
And that's where like that whole rehabilitation process should be
like a focal point in all of this, at least
for him personally. All Right, So you guys ready for
a little bit of a morning match game here on
a Friday morning of football, A good time for that, right,
So here's uh here, here we go into this morning
(10:49):
match game. Alright, so maybe music, Yeah, of course, this
is southern California, masked up. Everybody's got gloves on, we're
all in has that suits. We're safe. Everybody is safe here.
You know that. You spent some time in socow, you
know it works out here, all right. So the band
is in the student of course. Yeah, and we're four
(11:15):
or five months away from tuberculosis making a comeback. So
let's just let let's see what we got going on here,
all right. This is a match game here on a
Friday a speaking of Cleveland. Alright, So I figured we're
talking about Cleveland and the Brown speaking of Cleveland. So
here's how works. Guys. I am going to give you
a sentence. You must fill in the blank. You get
one guess each uh, and you can determine who goes first.
(11:36):
This is Brady versus LaVar all right, it's a little
Ohio verse p A in this little morning match game.
And it's just a fun little match game. Nothing serious here.
All right, here we go. All right, Blank, We'll be
held in Cleveland later on this month. I'll repeat, blank,
(12:00):
will be held in Cleveland later on this month. I'm
gonna go first. My response would be um, d s Okay, okay,
these very classy guy, easy, yeah, I got definitely got
it so classed through and through by Lavarrington name North
(12:23):
Hills Hammer. But I would say a massage therapy convention. Boy,
that's uh. You guys are on. Believe you guys have
not in regards the Sun. Watson were just like I'm
saying the one. No, it's Cleveland and Cleveland all right,
So let me go ahead. I do have the answer here,
So let me open up the envelope. I mean, one
guy says d s. The other guy says, a massage
(12:45):
therapy convention. These are broadcast professionals, folks. This is what
you tune in for. So let me open up the
envelope here. The answer is the now Massage Therapist Convention
feels so good. I just want to first, I want
(13:07):
to first thank God, Um. I'd like to thank my
mom my dad for just give me the forth sight
to be able to see these sorts of things coming
into fruition. I want to thank my team. I want
to think well far showing us Lee, Roberto Eddie, all
the guys who made this possible, Don Martin, Scott Shapiro,
oh Man. I want to thank everyone, everyone out there,
all the fans, all the people who also talk trash
(13:29):
on social media. I just can't thank you enough for
the motivation. You know, hashtag, you know b FT. How
about the American Massage Therapy Association the a m t
A based out of Illinois. They're going to hold its
annual conference at the Huntington's Convention Center in downtown Cleveland.
(13:50):
It's within sight of the Brown's First Energy Stadium, so
it'll be held l I mean not technical, I mean listen,
we have judges here. But congratulations to Brady Quinn. B Brady,
you want a hand towel that you can shovel snow with,
so congratulations coming handy for the winter months from the
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Shield hand Towel that could work as a appetizer, make
the same noise as a plate pretty much. Don't drop,
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We gotta get our fix in, you know, I gotta
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that was really more hoping that we were not gonna
play a game show. I guess anymore harm well game show?
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Do you know this show? I mean, it's football season.
It's tough to fit it in. Yeah, that's well. I'm
you know, I feel like people are too good at it,
Like we haven't had anybody just bomb, like missed the
first two and then they go like everybody kind of
knows could have been the day though it could have
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to it in. I mean we I mean we couldn't
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we could do it here coming up in about ten
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But it's your call, you tell me. Brandon t quinn
And I'd like to have a little more time to
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it's tough to That's that I hear you, all right.
So if you were hoping to play do you know
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enjoy it um. So there's a there's a situation in
the NFL that's kind of taking an interesting turn. So
Matt Stafford has uh not party. He's not participating in
team activities with the l A Rams because he's been
dealing with this what they're calling tendonitis um and it's
(16:44):
a bad tendonitis according to Ian rapp Report and some
others out there in his throwing elbow. So he's not
participating in the team drills. And Sean McVeigh is trying
to be a little bit optimistic about the situation, but
he is acknowledging that this is unique to a quarterback.
Here was the rampside coach. It is a tricky deal
(17:05):
and you want to make sure that you're getting with
the right people that are experts in this field. It's
a little bit abnormal for quarterback. You know, some of
this stuff is is things that you know MLB pictures
deal with, and so it is something that you know,
we're kind of learning about on the fly and and
his feedback and really trying to just figure out, Okay,
how do we get the best plan in place to
try to minimize some of the things that he was
(17:25):
having to push through. Also giving him the confidence that hey,
I can really just you know, let it go, not
have to worry about it, play to the best of
my ability. So I know, the seasons a little over
a month away for them. But he did have a
procedure done this offseason. It wasn't a surgery. It was like,
what is that, like a plasma rich whatever they call
done to his elbow where he had some injections and
(17:47):
all that. But then this sort of popped up on
him a couple of weeks ago and now it's become
an issue to where he can't participate and now they're
trying to navigate it. Anybody who's ever had tendonitis, I mean,
it's not like it gets better when you have to
play football coming up around the corner. And is he
just trying to be as optimistic as possible or it
should be it should people be really concerned with what's
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happening with Matt Stafford. I mean, it's something he's gonna
have to deal with. You know, you can rest it
now and take as much time as you want off,
but the reality is he's probably gonna be on a
pitch count every single week, you know, monitoring how much
you know he's doing in practice and whatnot. And look,
he's at the you know, at this point in time
in his career. I mean, the mental reps are as
important as anything you know physically, it's just making sure
(18:30):
he's healthy and feeling good when he gets the game day.
So it's concerning from a performance standpoint, you know, physically
because he's played so long and obviously you want to
defend your super Bowl title. But um, it's it's not
like we're questioning whether Matt Stafford can play. He can.
It's just, you know, they they've got to be able
to find the right groove to get everyone prepared to
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go into game day because he's probably not gonna practice
and be thrown as much. And so these new concepts
you put in different things, you're trying to, you know,
test out with Alan rob Nstin for example, here's a
new edition their team. You're not gonna have quite as
many opportunities to get that chemistry. At least that's my anticipation,
but it's definitely concerning. It's just it's something that I
don't believe at this point at least is gonna go away.
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If you're dealing with us going into training camp, it's
gonna be nagging you the whole season. I just think that,
I mean that kind of sums it up. You gotta
deal with it, and and I think that you take
as much time and giving him the opportunity to have
to deal with it for less time. I mean, there's
nothing for him to prove in the preseason. And and
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if you're feeling like you gotta rest it and give
him as much time off of using it to to
kind of lengthen the level of play he can possibly
play at. I mean, it's just gonna come down. You know.
It's interesting. Some guys have high pain tolerance thresholds and
some don't. And I think it just comes down to,
(19:53):
you know, it's by player. If Matthew Stafford is someone
who deals with pain well and and and can you know,
navigate the the amount of of discomfort that he may
have from from the tendonitis, then you know he should
be okay. You know, I don't know that tendonitis you know,
(20:14):
worse thans your you know, like you pull a muscle
or you you you know, I don't. I'm not you know,
I'm not a medical person on it, but I'm I'm
pretty certain if you're able to move through the pain
of it, that you know, you should be okay. So, man,
it's really gonna come down to his pain tolerance and
and it's probably gonna come down to you know, them
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trying to make sure that they manage the pain. You know,
you always run the risk of getting too dependent on
certain things, like I know, for me when when I
was dealing with tendonitis in my knees, you know, you
gotta be very careful in terms of how you approach
these things. I I went from just getting rehab and
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treatment for preventative measures and stuff like that to having
to go in you know, literally probably like two more
hours earlier than what I did. And I would I
would contrast. I would hot tub, I would cold tub,
you know, I would do certain things you know, on
with with the you know, the machine ice and stems
(21:15):
stuff like that. So yeah, I appreciate you had to
do a lot of different things that way just to
be able to honestly even have productive days of practice.
So it's just kind of one of those things you
don't want to get caught up into a situation where
you know you're using anti inflammatories too much. It's like
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always the you know, you gotta go get your blood taken.
You gotta figure out, you know what what is that
threshold and what is that balance that you can find,
and you know that will probably be what dictates, you know,
the amount of success that he has and longevity that
he's able to have with with that type of injury.
Did he suffer the injury throwing the photographer off the
(21:58):
stage at the Super Bowl parade or was it after
I'm just now I'm wondering when that happened, actually touched
touched the Okay, I'm trying to Yeah, I'm trying to
identify the root of the issue and like where it
actually started. Like that's that's really the focus here. I'm
trying to come up with the answers here. You know,
I think a lot of people want to focus on problems.
(22:18):
I'm trying to solve problems here. Like that's that's how
I look at this, you know, So listen, I mean,
by the way, if only there were a quarterback who
could be on the open market if this turns out
to be a serious injury. How about Jimmy g with
the Rams? He gets released and uh, you know Jimmy's
got a red ass against Kyle Shanny and John Lynch
(22:38):
and uh signs up for the Rams to that or
John Woolford, the Gary Oldman stunt double as your quarterback
in l A. If you're the Rams either way, Bills
minus two week one hammer it, lay the hammer on
it right telling you right now, that's how it's going down.
I sent a blowout in that game, early early forecast,
(23:00):
first game of the season, blow out. What do you
think about that? Brady? Once you take that to your
buddies who think they know gambling, you tell where you
got it from too. Everyone's gassing up the Buffalo Bills,
you know. I mean, I guess they think they're ready
to take that next step and go into super Bowl.
So I don't know that what you're saying is going
out on a limb. I mean, their favorite against the
(23:21):
defending super Bowl champs, and I believe they're they're picked
up the best odds to win the super Bowl. So yeah,
you're not really going out on a limb by by
saying they should win. There the game that Vegas things
they should win. By the way, you know, only five
times in the history of the Super Bowl has the
preseason favorite actually gone on to win the Super Bowl.
So you're the Bills, I mean, enjoy it now that
(23:43):
it's most likely not gonna happen. Yeah, So there's that.
It's two pros and a cup of Joe. Here Fox
Sports Radio coming up twelve minutes from now, We're gonna
have another edition of the b Q News. By the way,
do we have any updates? Trevor Penning been kicked out
of practice for a fourth straight day or was it
only three in a row? Here's all said that, Like,
I do love the fact he's one of those last
touch guys, like he wants to always kind of like
(24:04):
bother you or agitates you, so whistle blows and he's
still gonna get a little shot in on you, but
he holds a lot Like this goes back to like
the Senior Bowl watching a game of his and everyone's
like all excited because he's like tough and he's starting
fights and that's cool at all. But I'm telling you
right now, he's gonna get called for a lot of
holdings this year because the way he plays like, it's
(24:26):
just I'll be curious to see how it all works
out if everyone puts up with those antics, if he's
getting called for holdings everything like this is like yeah,
that the Senior Bowl And that was the conversation with him,
right that he's got a mean stream. There's even like
this video of him where he says, I love that
you can physically assault somebody across me and get away
(24:46):
with it. Like he just you know, he loves he
loves the physicality. You know. It seems like a Dan Campbell,
anti fragile guy. That's what he seems like to me.
Uh well, what's that? Ash know what he's saying? No,
beget that. Uh thought better of it. Who's the Who's
the edge rusher that he's going to have a problem with?
(25:07):
I mean, is he? Because I know Aaron Donald plays
inside but if if they meet up, he can he
can move outside from time to time. But you always
have to look more within your division, right So um,
I mean you could look at anyone at Tampa. The
edge I got a pretty decent front. Brian Brian Burns
is a problem for a lot of people in Carolina.
He's got a lot of speed off of the edge. Uh,
(25:30):
you look at Atlanta, Probably not an issue there. So
I mean, what are you trying to? Yeah, he's got
the doc, has to has to showcase it, you know. Um,
it's hard to be a good pass rusher early. I
mean that's just you know, can they do it? Um?
(25:50):
What about? I think he can do it. He's got
a good first step, he's got a good good technique.
I mean, how about you know there are people waking
up right now listening on the Blowtour AM five seven
the Blowtorch AM five seventy l A Sports. A man
who was who has been on AM five seventy l
A Sports before Anthony Barr. How about that brand? Remember
(26:11):
the Dallas Cowboys. Huh he's bad man. Yeah, I'll tell
you what they say this about. You can say what
do you want about Jerry Jones? And if there's someone
out there and he thinks they can improve their team,
they'll they'll go get them, like they'll find a way
of going it at it into the roster for the
most part. But like there's another addition, man, Like you
think about Dan Quinn and what he can do with
you know, some of these edge guys. Uh and and
(26:34):
I don't know. I look at Bar and I think
he could he could fit in a spot there with
Michael Parsons, given MICA's utility and Anthony Barr's ability to
move around. I mean what they already have like that,
that could be a good addition to that defense. How
was he a free agent? Was it his health? Like? What?
Why did they release him? Yeah? That was the Vikings
(26:54):
release him. That was one of the interesting things too,
because I remember thinking to myself when this came up,
I was like, I forgot he was even a free
agent altogether, and like what took him so long? Which
some guys want to be a little more patient with it,
but Jonas is the more residents Minnesota Vikings fans, Yeah
got covered. I mean yeah, I mean listen, four time
pro bowler that Anthony Barr. I mean, you just tell
me how you want it. I mean, I can I
(27:15):
get why again? I mean, it's it's a It's a
great question, and I think a lot of it comes
down to timing, a lot of it comes down to
situation in the NFL, and I just think in Minnesota
he had run its course. I mean he's staring thirty
years old straight in the eyes. He played a few
games last year, but you know, injuries have been a
little bit of a problem for him throughout the you know,
(27:36):
the past several years. I mean, you know, he had
his three interceptions last year, but a lot of people
would look at that and go, well, there was some
luck involved in those, maybe some deflections and all that.
But I feel like Anthony Barr, maybe it's it's worth
taking a look at. It is a very talented linebacker room, obviously,
with Jabril Cox and Michael Parsons and Layton Vanderish and everybody.
But you know, he's going to know the surroundings. It's
(27:56):
Oxen Hard. It's an hour or so away from from
the camp opposite u C. L A. So he just
hits up on the one oh one gets to Oxnard.
What else they call Oxnard? Is it called something else? Yeah,
I mean it's called knox NERD. He's a lot of
people called Knox SNRD obviously, you know, with you know
may upbringing and all that. You know, Ventura County to
hate over everywhere? Bro, Yeah, man, Midwest? Do you name it?
(28:18):
You know another another piece of information of note here
is that George Etwards is a part of that that
defensive staff as well. You love George, I love him
to death. I think he's I think that he has
should have been considered for larger roles at this point
in his career. Yeah, to look him up, um, but
(28:40):
he was. He was part of the architecture of of
when that defense was really you know, really clicking in
in Minnesota. Would he take over as d C if
if Dan Quinn leaves after this year? You know, I
don't know. I'm trying to think who else is on
that staff that would they would elevate. I mean, he's
qualified to do it. You know. It's surprised me. I
(29:00):
was surprised me that he only got one year as
d C in Washington, Like I was, I was assuming
we need to get more because then he ended up,
you know, a linebackers coach in Cleveland after that, and
he just kind of bounced around, you know what I mean. Like,
I was just surprised that it only lasted one year
in Washington. You look at what the defense was ranked
that year, well, I mean, well with the Commandoes, yeah, yeah,
(29:20):
well it wasn't called I played for the Washington Ridge,
but they're now called the Commander. God, I mean, what
are we doing here? Racist? Oh man, I don't see how.
What's next? Is Brady gonna talk about the baseball team?
Can I ask you guys a question, Here's a serious question.
(29:42):
If I were to pull out my check stuffs from
when I played Washington Rich that was gonna end differently?
Is that is that racist of me to say, here's
my check stubbs and it says Washington Ridskins on my
check stops? Actually the name that they paid through, like
I know, UM, like some of the organizations that will
(30:05):
be named something, but they actually when they pay you,
like there, their actual company name is something else. You know.
I got paid by the Washington That's what I said there,
Like the Washington it's like LLC or something or I
don't remember. I could go pull them because I remember
one of the teams I played for it was like
the um it was like maybe I don't know if
(30:26):
it was the Browns or not, but one of them
was like the football club. Like that's how like it
was like the Cleveland Browns Football Club or something like that.
I was like, that's weird, Like like you don't like
usually like you see the official name and like this
name is not you know, necessarily like ever mentioned. I'm
just saying, that's all my check stuff. So I was
just curious, is that racist stuff? Yeah? What's come on, man,
(30:54):
you're trying to get the show canceled. Gosh, alright, two pros.
I'm not lying. Am I being insensitive for saying that
that's all my my, my, my check stuffs. I mean,
I'm just saying, you guys still have an answer. I mean,
that's why we don't talk about the movie major. What
(31:15):
was the question? Is that racist for me to say
that that's all my I personally don't think it is.
But in this uh, this day and age we live in,
I'm sure you can find some more on on Twitter
to say it is. Yeah, all right, you like, I'm
I'm sure if you really want to look, you can
find some absolute moron who thinks it is. Well, you
(31:37):
know what, if it's wrong, then I need to go
re you know, visit my contract and get all these
new checks reissued to me under commandos. That would be nice,
because you know what, those other ones don't count because
the name doesn't exist. So I need to have a
Washington Commander's commando check. I need those check stuffs changed
(32:03):
and um reut. That's a good point. Yeah like that,
I like yeah with interests, Yeah, with interest chips dip
you know careful, Uh it is uh Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks. All right, it's time to put
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right now it's time for the main event. Let's go
to the newstaps. Here's Brady quick. Yeah yeah, all right.
Well how about this for a story to kick things off.
A woman was pulled over for drunk driving in a
(34:33):
golf cart on Florida's busiest interstate. Yeah that's that's Interstate
runs all the way up the eastern seaboard, if you will.
But apparently a a semi truck driver observed her as
she was driving down the middle of the lane in
Bavard County. That's up there the space coast there where
where SpaceX and all that is. Uh, he observed her
(34:56):
passing out while traffic golf car in the middle of
the lane. He helped a director over to the shoulder
and called the troopers until they could arrive. Um, she
did try to drive off at one point, so the
truck driver did take her keys until authorities arrived. And
then at that point she was just trying to take
her bag and make sure the cops didn't get it because,
as one could imagine, she had an open bottle of
(35:17):
Jack Daniels Tennessee Final. Okay, well, all right, so I
have a couple of questions, Um, what was did they
test her? Like? What did she owe? Was her blood out? It?
Did it? Did it? Did not? There's not a report
yet on what her b A C level was, but
I would imagine it was pretty high if she's passing
out while driving a golf car on a major highway. Mind.
And here's the other thing. Now, you own a golf card.
(35:39):
I think you have, actually you have a whole fleet
of golf cards. Not alright, listen, well, I don't know
that's that's what I heard. But that's neither here nor there.
How fast does a golf card go top speed? It
depends if it's street legal or not. If it's street legal,
obviously it's it's allowed to go faster. If it's not
street legal, unless you're you know, messing with it. Um,
(36:00):
it's just go under like eighteen miles Prower. But but
it can go faster than that if it's street legal
and he hasn't a license plate's registered. Although okay, what
like she could have been going fast and I'll put
that so she's going thirty on a highway and sent
my trunk and his steer up the road. I mean
(36:21):
talking about like asking for deaths year old kidding. I mean, hey,
you know what, though, I hope she's all right. Um,
I mean, do you like what what makes you look
more down on her? Is it the fact that she
was driving a golf cart on a highway drunk or
the fact that she was drinking Jack Daniels Tennessee fire whiskey.
(36:41):
Honestly nothing, because she gave us this great story we
got to go in to the weekend with. Actually I'm
appreciative of her participation either, how about this one are
Utah man has been arrested on accusation that he started
a wild fire. Yeah, this thing actually got out of control,
and the reason being is he was trying to burn
(37:02):
a burn a spider with his lighter. Um at least
that's what the report is indicating at this point time,
going up for a hike up in the foothills south
of Salt Lake City, uh, near the city of Springville.
And the probable cause at this point is that uh. Well,
after the deputies found a jar of mirror juana and
his belongings. Even though he didn't appear to be high. UM,
(37:25):
they found a bit puzzling that he started the blaze
as he was trying to kill a spider with his lighter.
What kind of what are we talking like? Yeah, I
don't know, but the conditions were bone dry amid the
extreme drought conditions, so it didn't take much. Right now,
he's being held at the Utah County Jail on two
(37:46):
thousand dollars bail. It sounds like a trantla to me.
You know, I wonder if he's going to have to
settle with that that spider. Spiders in depressed charities. We're
in the day and age of I wonder if he's
gonna I wonder if that spider is gonna have some
advocates come to its backing, Yeah, you still got all
(38:10):
eight legs. Did he have a towel that accompanied his life?
Come on? The Marchese? Was the towel the reason they
for the blaze. I just would had ever touched him.
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