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Flat's back. All right. It is football season. A program
references always. I mean we're not even two minutes into
the show, So there you go. Nineties movie nineties. Wasn't
we gotta get all time? All time? We gotta get
the program drops in the show. There's some good ones there.
I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to remake that. Yeah, especially
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with like now with well, I don't want to talk
about it. Let's let's figure this out. What do you mean,
I mean, I don't want to go to the details
of it. We might be given away something. Yeah that's true.
Yeah sorright. So anybody else comes up with that, they're
a thief. H. Now we do need to get the update.
How was the blue Jacket the Great Golf Tournament? You
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put on third and gold foundation? Now what what are
the details you can provide here? Brady? Yeah, So we
had an awesome, awesome weekend. Uh. It starts off. We
had a Sunday night beer pong event. Uh. The only
disappointing thing about that was we had a team that
went back to back, UH team named Boushan. Now one
of the players there's actually this uh, this big Scottish guy.
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It was pretty controversial for those of you that play
beer pong. And I'm like, I play beer pong. I'm
not like a like one of those people who complains
a lot about the rules. It's like, look, if a
guy is tall, he's gonna have a reach advantage over me.
You know, it's no different if you get into boxing
ring and the guy's tallering you, he's gonna have a
reach on you. So apparently this guy like ticked off
a lot of people last year. Well, he he missed
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his flight, he couldn't make it in and so his
partner found another guy who was also lights out of
beer pong. Anyway, Bouchean ended up running it back up
back to back years, winning it everyone. It was actually,
it's actually pretty fun because you had an entire room,
you know, watching these guys go, you know, you know,
throw for throw in beer pong, and unfortunately, um or
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fortunately depend on how you look at it. Uh, Boushan
ended up repeating it. But it was. It was a
ton of fun. It was a great time. UM made
about fifteen grand for that event and then the golf outing.
Uh the next day. We did have a blue jacket winner,
and in fact we had to UM. I think I
might have set jonas one of the videos from one
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of the winners, but there's some other there's another video
out there. We're like, yeah, I probably shouldn't Prussian circulate
that one. Um. We did have two winners though after
not giving one out the year before, h two gentlemen
stepped up to the challenge and ended up winning the
blue jacket, but raised another. I think we've brought about
hundred and seventy thousand between the two events. Sod so
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for for the veteran programs we have at the third
and Goal Foundations, great stuff, ton of fun um. It
was honestly an absolute blast. So weather was perfect, really
really good time. Now, how does one win the blue jacket?
For anybody that has not been to the event listening here,
what did the qualifications? How do you get nominated? It's
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pretty much it goes to the guy who looks like
he's having the best time and everyone knows it. You know.
There was there was a few like one guy got
so blasted he actually he actually would have been in
the running, but he couldn't function. Was like he was
having a hard time, and we're like, got to handle it. Yeah,
you gotta kind of be able to handle it. I
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mean you can't just you know, go ahead and pass
out and then the side of the putting green, like
you actually have to be able to do something from there,
so you can't be belligerent. That just that doesn't give
you automatically mean you're gonna win because it feels like
you don't. I don't does anybody ever go into the
tournament saying I'm going to win the blue jacket? This year,
or does the blue Jacket just choose them? No, people
will say that all the time if you actually live
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up to the challenge, Like that's the realities I have
people come up, everyone goes by a year. Man, I'm
gonna do it, and I'm like, okay, okay, we'll see
what happens one uh no, And and it's it's disappointing
because we actually would have one year there was there
was a blue jacket, it would have been a blue
Jacket winner. I'll put it this way. We had a
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guy who I think I told the story, he didn't finish.
Technically his wife would have accepted on his behalf that
didn't work out. And by the way, they actually got divorced.
Who doesn't tell tale sign the blue jacket would have
held them together. That's essentially should have been like it
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could have been that breakthrough moment for them, you know.
And now is it like the Masters where you put
one on the next year's recipient? I mean, are you
sharing the same blue jacket or do you get a
brand new one that's sort of dry clean, but maybe
not really every single year. So we we have like
a stock one that we typically put on like this
year's blue jacket winner, and we happen to have a couple,
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so we did have one there for each blue jacket
winner to present them with. But we do get them
fitted for their own so we we we we pull
it all the stops. We make sure we we get
their measurements, we get them fitted for a nice blue
jacket that most people don't really wear again until the
tournament comes around again. That's awesome. Well, that's quite an
honor though, Yeah, it is. Yeah, at some point I'm
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gonna come one, try to at least try to put
my my best foot forward. And literally right now it
is best foot far. I'm telling you if you come
out there, given the given a couple of times we've
hung out, I think you'd you'd be in contention for it.
I mean we didn't get too deep, I'll tell you that.
And if you felt impressed by that small little bit
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of time, you get the full samples serving brother, you
know it's going. Yeah, man gets wild, It gets wild
out there. Did they serve a piece of the video? Yeah,
it's uh, I mean very acrobatic all the way until
the end of that video. It didn't quite stick the landing. Uh,
you know, off the golf car. But do they serve
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long islands on the golf carts like the little beer
carts that go around because just beers. Uh there, no, no no,
you got have miss mixed drinks. Yeah, LaVar, this come on, man,
let's go. I mean I would love to, you know,
I would. Yeah, this year wouldn't have worked out for me.
My foot is jacked up by the way it's getting
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but it's gotten worse. It's getting better today. You didn't
see I was moving better today. We had the boot on. Well,
I had to boot on yesterday. You were fully taped
and spatted yesterday and I couldn't put any pressure on it.
And now you think it's the toe though it's not
really the foot. It is my foot. But my toe
has been really sore, my big toe. But it feels
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better today, better than I get gang green man. We
need you, just saying how would I get gangs? I
don't know, man. It just said, you know, weird, weird
disorder that could pop up out of nowhere, and we
we need you. Football seasons right around the corner. We
got a lot to a lot of conversation we gotta
get to. I felt better today, Yeah, yeah, I got up.
I mean, like I almost just put on another flip flop.
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But I'm just being safe, you know, I'm being safe
about and being being smart well listen, not being egotistical,
you know, just put the boot on it. Anybody watch
Hard Knocks last night? Anybody had taken that and tire
about it about it? Can I? Can I just be
be honest about something. Dan Campbell love some some sound,
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Yeah he does. And he is a star, no doubt.
I just found myself going, yeah, not really into it anymore.
The first week I was excited. Is he more cooler?
Is he more cool than uh than Rabel? Who would
you rather have? Dan Campbell? Because Rabel feels like a
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world class ball buster that he would he would like
is a dope dude? Yeah, he's just cool, I would say,
I don't. I feel like he's a He's a ballbuster,
but he's just as smooth. Yeah, Mike is a dope dude.
You would like Mike? Yeah? Oh yeah, he Mike win
a blue Jack good Campbell. I've never hung with Dan Campbell,
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but he definitely looks the part. Dan Campbell is like
a moonshiner, Like I would kick it with Dan Campbell
because I would drink moonshine with Dan Campbell, Like we
would be moonshine moonshine, because that's just the type of
party me and him would have. It would have to
be moonshot, but it would be like apple pie or
strawberry shortcake, but it will be a moonshine deal with
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me and him. Yeah, but you're gonna be time traveling
pretty quick into your moonshine with Dan Campbell. That that's
moonshine is a real deal. Yeah, exactly if you had moonshot.
I have, I've I've tasted and it took a sip
of it. It's yeah, yeah, it's a little scroll man.
Tom yea he took over y have you haling at
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the moon? Yeah, it's like playing with machette and I go,
that's a bad idea. Just put it down, walk away
and uh, you know, go back to a bud light.
And just felt like the felt like the safer route
to take. Because we got to create a tour for
next year. Man, Like we gotta put our calendar together
because you guys got to come to Chyenne. We gotta
do Frontier days together. We gotta do queues deal. We
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gotta do that together. What else? What else is there?
We gotta do a Notre Dame game. We gotta do
a pen state game in Hawaii, we gotta go to
why that's another one and travel. Yeah. Now I feel
like we're getting a little hoit ofver, especially coming from
coming from Florida, so I lose sight of that, that
Brady coming from Florida. That's like a it's a tour,
you know, it's like we're you know, we gotta make
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it out like this big thing, like we're big, big
time superstars that are going on tour, like you can
come like see us in person, like you can see
this magic in this action in person. And who the
hell doesn't want to come hang out at three? And
then I mean that's why I brought it up. You know, well,
if we were in Hawaii, wouldn't be three in the morning,
midnight and that would be fun. I mean, we could
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do it somewhere where it be that would get out
of hand it probably, And then six in the morning.
You know who who doesn't want to be up at
six in the morning to come hang out with us
doing radio plus like the accommodations you guys had, and
we did the show when you guys were in Iowa.
I mean that would have been perfect for the listening
and viewing audience to be a part of that set
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up that we had, especially for que I would have
been more behind the scenes literally try thanks to the
moftive room. I mean, we was trying to do the
dual plug in. You know, we were trying to to
double team the comrads. We were really trying to you know,
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handle it together, but it just didn't work out that way.
It only wanted one of us well, so we had
to use different different Hate what that happened. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta hate when it winrambling like four internet connection.
I mean, you'll do a lot of things. So yeah,
so we'll listen, we will figure it out. But no,
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it's an awesome tournament. You guys put together a third
and goal foundation and a hundred seventy tho dollars range.
Did you see our T shirts we were wearing. No,
I'm wearing my T shirt. I got my third and
gold shirt on from when I went. So we had um.
We had blown up on the sure the first year
where my brother in law A J put a golf
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cart in a pond at a place called Rattle Snake Ridge,
and so you'll you'll see the T shirt where it's me,
my dad, our buddy Oz and then uh a J.
We're all like up to our neck in this pond
trying to like pull this golf cart out. We had
no shot in hell um, but we we had a
big picture of that blown up we're selling shirt says
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allegedly underneath because A J didn't want to take all
the credit for But it's been twelve years now, so
he was. He was our first Blue Jacket winner, and
I kind of set the tone from year one, that's all. Yeah.
I heard that. You guys told you told the story
on the Pat McAfee show, and they couldn't believe it.
Pat was like wait what wait, wait Chop, And then
you started telling about Chopper, your dad, and he was
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mesmerized just by the legend that was Chopper McAfee could
be a Bluecoat winner, I believe easily. Yeah, Oz really
our buddy who's in that photo. I'm surprised he hasn't
at this point. He's had some stiff competition some of
those years. But I mean, I'll never forget we're like
trying to pull out clubs like iPhones, whatever we could
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from what was in that cart, and we finally like realize, hey,
it's done. We're not pulling this thing back out, and
we walk up onto the bank of the green and
we're kind of sitting there just looking out, like absorbing,
taken in, all on, just taking place. And meanwhile there's
this pack of parliaments like floating in the middle of
the pond. I think it was next to like that
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one of the golf cart seats that like came off,
and he's just b lines he he, he looks like
he's an a little bic Olympic diver. He just jumps
right in and starts swimming to it, grabs the six,
comes back out, cracks one open. It's just sitting there
smoking on the side of the green while like the
other groups and everyone's looking at us like what the
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hell happened? And like it was just a year two.
The whole slogan was, let's just finish eighteen, let's try
to get three eighteen holes and so eight that was
so a J one at what twelve years ago? So
a J wanted twelve years? Am I wrong for asking?
What I mean? Does the does the golf golf place
just expect you guys to be that way, or like,
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how did how did they handle how did they handle
that when you guys like actually live up to standard
and put a golf cart into the pond takes? Well,
that was that course was a one and done. I mean,
I'm we had to pay for it obviously, but and
they were great. They just they said, hey, we want
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to make sure no one gets hurt all stuff. Uh
you you do, or you're gonna have to pay for this,
and uh please don't come back. Actually we did. We
we did kind of bounce around a little bit. Um.
We went to a couple of the courses before we
found the club right now, which we've been at for
a while. So you know, it's great about a j
Hawk taking the golf cart into the lake like that.
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You know, there was an employee at that golf course
who like a year or so later, is watching the
Super Bowl and they're seeing a j raised the Lombardi
Trophy and they're like, wait a second, I've seen that
guy somewhere And it was like a year or so
earlier he dumped a golf cart in the lake and
got kicked out of the course, so first ever Blue
Jacket winner and then he wins the Lombardi Trophy after that.
I mean, come on, man, that's a hell of a
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man like he was, he was winning everything. Yeah, good
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Yeah yeah, I will never want to hear this song
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ever again. Hey, whatever you guys want. Man fifties my mind,
you know what I mean. But I don't want to
hear this song good ruin it? Yeah? Yeah, it was
a blue jacket performance. I said, you're at least you're
enjoying yourself. But but we don't want you back at
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you know, at the golfers. Yeah, we don't want you
back next year. Not a lot of back in. That's fine,
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Wednesday morning as we take you all the way up
until nine am Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific. So you
ever play in a wing T offense? Q? Uh? Yeah? Actually,
how do you defeat a wing T offense? How do
you defeat it? Put in the offense? I'm playing defensive side, no,
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but if you were, if you were to give an
insight to as the offender, what what is the most
uncomfortable way of defensing the the You know, if you can,
if you could penetrate the lot of scriptage pretty quick,
that usually kind of blows up any potential chance of
their bigginning reads or probable bile security in the in
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the backfield. That's that would be my guess. Yeah, I
mean that that was my That was my assessment, But
I was curious what what that would be for you,
like like and and then in the passing game, right,
are you looking to release the ball very quickly or
are you holding it? Uh? It depends on Well, let
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me first peking by saying this, if you're running the
wing tea, I wouldn't say this much of a passing game.
You've basically thrown in the towel. I'm saying, like, we're
gonna be a good passing team, but to or you're
gonna misdirections and boots so that it's not gonna be
overly quick. You might have a couple of quick passes
in there, but you're probably trying to get your quarterback
away from the lone of scrimmage outside the pocket. Um,
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so I would say you're holding onto it longer, but
you're not like sitting back there patting the football in
the pocket. It's more movement based. Yeah. Well, because the
key to the wing tea is the guards, so they
kind of dictate and a wing t the guards take
you there like and I mean I saw a hundred
percent of the time on this team in particular. You're right,
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how do how you know that? Man? I mean I
was looking for the expert, you know, advice from Q.
You just you just solved it, solved it in two seconds.
Tell you tell your defense, like the indicator is going
to be the guards. They'll tell you what's happening. The
guards can either make or break. All right, you're that offense, yeah,
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because you like, I guess I'll put it this way.
The wing teas that I was a part of, even
if you're like an over penetrating type of defensive front, uh,
that over penetration can create seams in the defense. You
can run to your traps, different things like that that
you can actually hurt a defense by doing it. So, look,
I love the wing tea. It's it's hard, it's it's
a hard offense to prepare for for a defense, no
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different than triple option because it's all Simon football. So, um,
yeah the guards are yeah, sure, yeah. I mean look
the team, the team I was a part of that
ran it. Um. We didn't have the biggest cards, they
were not, and we were still able to do it
somewhat effectively. Nice. I loved it, and I loved I'm
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a cross reference at all day today. That's all I
enjoyed it. I was just I was curious, as somebody
who understands it as how level as you do que
as a quarterback, how would you? And I didn't know
that I needed to bring you into the conversation, but
I just wanted to hear what what would be the
most uncomfortable aspect of a wing t offense if you're
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defending it. If um, I'm trying to think of how
because actually there's a school down here in South Florida
that they were running it, and I hadn't done it
since high school, and I remember like, basically, if you
could find a way I'm obviously it's like their standard
run defense stuff, but if if you could find a
way of penetrating and eliminating the mesh point at any
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point in time for the quarterback and the dive like
if you could eliminate that, you're gonna have a really
hard time. You don't too much. Um, even if you can't,
I mean you should be able to set it edge.
But even if you couldn't. Yeah, and wing tease, they
they're okay with you setting at edge because like you said,
they're they're waiting for people to to overfield. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,
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thank you. And I'm just glad everybody out there that's
listening at seven am and on the East coast, a
lot of them are probably football coaches. So there you go.
I just helped you out. Welcome. But like the X
IS and O stuff, the I think that stuff's fascinating. Man.
Remember Edge NFL matchup Back in the day on ESPN,
they would break down plays. I've always thought that stuff
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is interesting and uh and just to see how people
break stuff down. So whenever you guys are talking XS knows,
I think it's interesting, it's fun. I figured we'd get
the people something like, you know, let them know, throwing
a petro, see how he would do in the wing
tea next hour, let big time. Um, I bet you
he doesn't want to answer. It's to make a joke
about it. Now he just came off vacation. He should
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be fresh fresh. Yeah. I saw him going zip lining,
I think, yeah, so he should be fired up and
having a good time. Would you guys zip line? Yeah,
of course, not only if it was tandem though. If
if there, yeah, there's somebody on my back. Yeah, I gotta,
I gotta make sure that happens. Um, So I have
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you have bunch of yah bungee jumped? Yeah, bunge I
don't know. I'm not really sure I feel about that.
I mean, if it was one of those big, tall,
long bridges over a crack, yeah, and in the ground, yeah,
I would do a water under yeah. If if I do, yeah,
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I want to see him measure it though first, you know,
I gotta I gotta make sure that the measurements are right,
because if the cords too long and the grounds too short, uh,
it dips you into water and there's alligators and crocodile
is in there. Yeah, I'm going to pass on that
yeast actually is one that I mean, I've seen videos
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where the bungee cord actually there, they dipped the water
like they actually touched the surface of the water. I
think you die to happen no, you don't. Don't you
hit that water pretty fast? Probably not. Probably, Well listen,
just hope it's not frozen. You know, that would be
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a problem, but we do have I'm just saying that
would go I'm certain that will go wrong. Yeah, I'm
just saying. Next thing, you know, you're pulling somebody back
up and they they shrunk four feet. So so how
about this, um, Kenny pick it? All? Right, Kenny pick it?
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He does? That is correct. He's getting reps with the
first team offense in two many it drills for the
first time. Yesterday at practice it was reported that he
was getting reps with the first team oh in those
two minute drills. And so we saw him play and
play well his debut at Acupuncture Stadium whatever the hell
they call it now on Saturday, he played well enough.
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Now he's getting some reps with first team offense. I mean,
it feels like we got some momentum there for Kenny
p I. I I don't think that he's maybe going to
be the starter week one, but it does feel like
things are heading in the direction of Mike Tomlin having
more confidence in Kenny Pickette the season approaches. Yeah, Look,
he played great the preseason game. Um, and I think
it warrants giving him some shots with the ones. Um,
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you guys don't have a big Kenny Pickett fan. I
think he could. He gives him a shot right away.
He's ready to play. Um boy. They got some talent
though at wide receiver throw too, so it should be
fun to see. Like I feel like, you know, there's
a chance whoever ends up getting that the NOD Week
one ends up playing for a little while just because
of I think what they have out around the quarterback spot,
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if they're old line can improve. But um, look that's
what you have to see. You know, Trey Lance, who's
going to be the guy, right he had a good
preseason performance. You know, it's not like you know you
you have been preparing him for this moment and so
you you should be and he you know, you'll see
what happens once against to the regular season. But for
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Kenny Picket, that hasn't been the case. And it's been Trabisky,
it's been Mason Rudolph. So you gotta give him these
first team reps. You have to put up and put
him up against your one defense. See how he handles it,
see how he performs because you're not gonna get that
in the preseason right like nowadays not really not many
teams play their starters, so you're not and they're not
game planning the way they used to either. So you've
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got to figure out a way of doing that in
practice to get an idea of if he gives you
the best chance to win come Week one or come
at some point early in the season. But either way,
it's well deserved. He bawled out the other night. Um
that crowd, man, I'm telling you, they're gonna be clamoring
for this young man. If they do stumble at all,
I feel like you're gonna start hearing chance uh right
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out the gate. Even though again, like I said, it's
a talented group at wide receiver around that quarterback spot.
Whoever starts Week one should be able to put up
some stats. They just gotta catch the ball, you know.
That's what it comes down to. There's too many drops
last season, and too many drops in big, big games.
I think I think right now, I think the wise
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decision is Trabinsky. I don't think it's Mason Rudolph. Those
who are calling for Mason Rudolph. I think that that's misplaced, um,
you know, buy in or or hope or belief or want.
I think that Traubinsky was brought in for a reason,
and that reason was to start for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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and I think where they stand right now if if
piket is which by the way, for for the Steelers
to be able to get him, because it wasn't you know,
maybe clear as to where he would go, so for
them to be able to get him in the draft.
Starting there, you already had, you know, a win for
your team. But but the idea of putting Mason Rudolf
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in there, excuse me, uh, Mitch Drabinsky in there and
and seeing what he can do because you brought him
in there originally to be your starter. I think it was.
I think you brought it up Q the idea of
him having mobility or I don't know the mobility of Drabinsky.
The there are some intriguing aspects of his game that
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you would say could possibly translate because Mike Tomlin has
made it known that he wants to have a quarterback
that has some mobility. Pick it has mobility, Mitch, Mitch
Drabinsky has more, and they both have more mobility than
than Mason Rudolf, And again I think they know what
they're getting with Rudolf. I think that's a ship that's sailed.
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And if if Mitch Drabinski can buy time for Picket
or Pike, it's so ahead of schedule that now they're
starting to feel confident in him taking number one reps,
then that's a good sign for for the Steelers in
their future that they have a quarterback that could pick
it up as quickly as pick it has. If that's
the case. We talked about this a little bit just
their schedule to start out the year, and if this
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scenario plays out, this does seem like a very possible
spot if Travisky is the starter week one and they
want to wait on Kenny Picket. So you open up,
you've got your on the road against Cincinnati, and then
you've got New England at home, and then you've got
Cleveland on a short week on the road. You also
later on you you're you're on the road against Buffalo,
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You're on the road against Philly, Miami, and you've got Tampa.
Like that, that's kind of a difficult schedule to start.
Your bye week is week nine, and then you've got
a couple of home games afterwards, wouldn't that be the
sweet spot? If you were sitting there below five hundred,
you're at week nine, basically halfway through the season, wouldn't
that be the sweet spot to start a rookie quarterback
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at home coming off a bye week with an extra
week week to prepare, Because at that point, if you're
already losing games and you feel like it's close enough
that you're gonna give him reps in the preseason with
the ones starting in practice yesterday and maybe this build
just moving forward, why wouldn't you start him at that Well,
and you you're probably trusting that your defense is giving
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you what you need support wise, so now you can
I know this is overstated, but now you can really
put put your new quarterback in a position where he
manages the game versus you're putting the game on his
arm to win the game. And I think that that's
something that you would take into consideration with a team
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that's configured the way that Distillers are. Yeah, it seems
like that's a that's a decent spot there at Week
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Coming up in about twenty minutes from now. It is
the return of the b Q News. Uh. It's been
gone for a day. We missed it very much. It
will be back here again twenty minutes from now. Right now, though,
we turn it over to Petro's Papadakis. He is the
co host of the Petros of Money Show on the
Blowtorch AM five seventy l A Sports Fox College football analyst,
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he is our buddy and he is fresh off vacation.
Pee Howie feeling Uh pretty good? How are you guys? Want?
I wanted to get your opinion on something before we
got going. Yes, yes, that's why I'm here. No, no,
not not about all the other stuff. About this, in particular,
(32:11):
the wing twould How would you defend the wing wing T?
You have to watch the offensive line, so once they
wherever the double team is, that's where the ball's going. Now.
Of course you could do a fake double team, but
then you kind of lose the the whole uh purpose
of the wing T. But what happens is every once
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in a while here in the city of Los Angeles,
uh and maybe other places like, somebody will come and
implement a wing T and U work it and drill it.
And I love when people do stuff like that because
it means you work your ass off on it all offseason,
and the kids are really disciplined in doing it. Like
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I could still get in my stance and run the
fear that we used to run in high school. I
can run the short one, the longer one, the one
that hits a little more outside the guard, because I
was the fullback in that and I love that stuff,
but really all your all you're depending on is the
defense being really undisciplined and staring in the backfield. And
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if they stare in the backfield, then they're going to
be confused and you're gonna end up like a lot
of these teams. I remember losing her high school, which
is where Russell Westbrook went, kind of an obscure high
school in Lawndale, California, years ago, and Narbon did it
for a while. Uh, they put in the wing tea
and then it's like, oh my god, they have four
two thousand yard rushers, you know, because everybody is staring
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in the backfield, and the guys on the edges, and
the full back, the tailback, the quarterback, they're all touching
the ball. And you know, in many ways, the wing
t in a in a very different way, is like
the air raid, or Mike Leach's philosophy on the air raid,
which is it's not so much if we're running the
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ball or we're throwing the ball. It's much more about
the fact that any of these skill position guys at
any time can touch the ball on any part of
the field, and we have no we don't discern really
one way or the other. We just distribute that way
and you have to defend every single skill position. Guy,
And the wing T is a is a lot like that,
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but it's kind of the running version of the air raid.
I guess i'd i'd put that's interesting. Yeah, Special Bark
know us a lot about that. I was helping out
you guys putting the wing ta over there at Charter Oak. No, no,
no no, but I'm usually scouting report. Let's be real
about what it is. And now maybe Lavari you'll disagree
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with this because I don't know who's running it that
you play against. But the school I was helping out
down here, it was because we didn't have quite as
much talent and so we were trying to overcome that
with with some scheme and strategy. So that was what
that was our our predicament. But that's what the ever
it is too, right, Like That's why it's that's why
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it never made sense for a team like usce Like
concepts are one thing, but to just run the air
raid and listen to Graham har will tell you we
don't make adjustments. We just you know, we just throw
the ball in the open guy, all right, that sounds simple,
you know, so really a lot of these offenses. And
that's kind of the cool thing about college football, and
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you just don't get it in the NFL because everybody
is so good. But the cool thing about college football
is you'll have a big disparity in two teams. You know,
one team is a lot bigger than the other team,
one team is a lot faster than the other team,
one team is a lot more talented than the other team,
and you have to find a way to even the
playing field. And in college football, because of where the
hash marks are and because of the space available on
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the field and the way the clockworks, you can be
less talented and really compete at a high level. And
I guess the best example of that in our lifetimes
is Ship Kelly's organ team. Because those people, they were
not as talented as the people that were playing against
anybody that tells you that they were as a damn liar,
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but they they would compete and blow people off the field,
go places like Tennessee and run them off the field
with scheme, and not just scheme, but just a relentless
ability to run the scheme over and over and over
and over again. And that's what makes it hard on
a defense and a linebacker. You know, you feel the
whole Once great, you know we're gonna ask you to
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do it fifty more times and if you can, then
you'll beat them. Petro say, your Graham Harrold impersonation sound
a little bit like our boss Don Martin. Yeah, well,
there's kind of They struck me as similar. Did they
really give you an example? And Graham Harrold barely spoke
to He did not like me because he knew that
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I was not a fan of his scheme. Uh. And
they all invaded my hometown and now they're all gone,
and there's a whole new batch of USC assistant coaches
with their kids flooding the little leagues and stuff. They're like,
you can you believe this kid from Oklahoma? He's unreal.
It's like, yeah, he's not from balance Verdi's that's why
he's good. But uh, yeah, I wasn't close with Harold.
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I mean we just had a couple of meetings and uh,
he never would answer any questions. All he would talk
about is we're just going to throw it to the
open guy. And it's like, okay, you do That didn't
happen too often h I mean, I guess it did.
I mean, you look at us. USC has not had
trouble with the skill positions. Maybe they haven't paid attention
to the running back position, which is a bad thing,
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a really bad thing, but been good. Yeah. I mean
people talk about what USC is gonna be saved by
this Addison kid from Pittsburgh. This kid seems like a
prima donna. I mean, Pittman won that way kick a
d London wasn't London wasn't that way. I mean, those
guys approached a wide receiver position like a lineback. Brown
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wasn't there. I love Domen rob By the way those
guys played their ass off. And you know, that's one
thing about the air raid that I was kind of like, well,
you know, at least these receivers are physical. At least
these running backs are are getting after people. But the
air raid and that kind of offense doesn't allow the
offensive line to work and take the football out of
the defense. So basically, the defense is attacking you the
(38:19):
same way they did in the first quarter in the
fourth quarter because you haven't made them pay for trying
to tackle you. You haven't made them pay for lining
up against your line. I love that. You know, Brandon
Staley brought that up. I think last year Petros like
he was talking about like why you run the football
and all that, and it was good. I like that.
That was a lot better than going for it in
the fourth down. Okay, So so let's venture into that
(38:42):
because I think we talked about him Monday. We talked
to him every week on the show. Are you are
you a fan of that? Are you like, come on, dude,
you're being overly aggressive, because because here's the thing is
the thing I love about Brandon Staley is everything he says,
you go, Okay, I get it, Like I'm not gonna
fault a man for making a decision. And when he
can say, look, I've got one of the best quarterbacks
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of the game. I believe in him. I believe in
our offense and and by the way, I believe in
our defense. If we don't get it that we're gonna
get a stop. Now, maybe that's I don't know what
you call it. You know, you're being ignorant to not
having been in this position and then watched how it's
played out over and over and over again. But I
think his his logic is sufficient right, like he's he's
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basically staying like, my quarterbacks better than yours, and my
defense is better than yours. I'm gonna be more aggressive
than you, and more often than not it's gonna pay off.
It just hasn't so far. I guess. I guess it's
a fine line, a really fine line, because there is
I mean, you are you are right there, You're like
that that that Ezra Miller person. You know, are you
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an artist? Are you absolutely out of your mind? And
you know, and every once in a while Herbert will
goll get you fourth down in nine. But if you
do it on your own twenty and it leads to
points and you who's that game for the playoffs? Then
what do you think you're gonna answer for for the
next two years? I mean, we're still talking about it,
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So I think that's And the most interesting thing to
me is, like I've always felt like offensive coaches will
always find a way, even no matter how spectacular they are,
they were generally find a way to screw up the
team by trying to benefit the offense and that kind
of way. And the interesting thing about Staley is he's
a defensive coach. Usually defensive coaches never make those kind
(40:31):
of decisions on fourth down. They have faith in the
defense to punt and stop him. But but Pete Carroll
went for and on that fourth down right and didn't
get it in the Texas game that we always still
talk about. And he's a defensive coach. So it's a
really it's so hard and so situational. Like everything in football,
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I think there's such a fine line between insanity and
brilliance when it comes to that kind of thing. And
if you get that reputation as the wild riverboat gambler,
you might end up like Less Miles, with a really
crazy hair dye job and out of a job. Petro's
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I didn't need to ask you because there was some
video that surfaced via social media of zip lining on vacation.
I mean, I thought you horrifying, and I just looked
up an article as somebody died doing that on the
very same zip line I was on. I mean, you
look great, you look smooth, no nerves. I was horrified.
(41:35):
Come on, Oh no, I had a panic attack up there.
Oh yeah, But there was nothing else I could like,
I didn't know, Like, you know, I have these friends
who are really wonderful people, and they own a home
in a very very special place called Sundance, Utah, not
where they have the film festival, which is very large
now and in a park city which is about fifty
(41:55):
five oh minutes away. Uh, Sundance is a really small
all place and it's operated, or at least used to
be until recently by Robert Redford, the very famous actor.
And it's a conservatory basically up there. And these people
own a home and they're wonderful friends of ours, and
they take us up there, uh once a year usually,
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But I've never been up there in the summer. And
my wife is an adventurous person. She's very a thrill
seeker of sorts, but she likes to snowboard and do
all that. But I don't, you know, I haven't ever
skied or snowboard or anything, so no one expects me
to do it. Right. Uh. In the winter, I can
stay inside and do my yoga and drink during the
(42:40):
day and read a book and map and they all
come back at like five o'clock, you know, with their
snow faces and like, Hey, wasn't that great? Remember I
met you on that one run? Ho? You know, It's
like and I have nothing to do with it. Uh
in the summer, it's a little bit different. They made
me really do a lot of stuff that took me
out of my comfort zone. But it was not where
nothing than the zip lining, which I I thought it
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was gonna be like through a forest, you know, like
maybe halfway up a tree kind of thing. But it
was literally like as you can see from the video
at the old p on Twitter, it was like jumping
off a mountain. And I thought it would be like
one thing, like, Okay, I did it, but it's it's
it was like stations of the Cross of Jesus's death.
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I had eight petros. Did you do it tandem? Like
Jonas did when he went skydiving because he went strapped
to some guy's ball sack? No and his girlfriend. I
had no choice, manu. I we went like I went
side by side with my wife on two zip lines.
So she want to see me pumpting calf I got,
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I got an sup. I mean, could you have squeezed
whatever it is that you were holding, you have squeezed
it any tighter? I got up there was the top
and I got up to the top and my wife
was like, you know, my wife was like we can
just go back down. My wife, who weighs like a
(44:09):
hundred and forty pounds less than me, it's trying to
comfort me, like we can just go down, don't worry.
These are our friends, they won't judge us. And I'm like,
I can't have all this stuff strapped on my balls
and go down and be like I'm sorry. I couldn't
do it, you know, I mean, I just couldn't. So
I just got on there and closed my eyes and
pulled the thing and prayed. I just listened to the
(44:31):
sound is like the reeling away of the years of
your life. It's it's horrible. I wouldn't recommend it. And
you have death grip. That's how I don't like rit
roller coasters anymore. And somehow I got tricked in the
right and a roller coaster not too long ago, and
I was that's the death grip, like I recognized it,
and that's why I went. You went tandem and a
(44:52):
roller coaster. This was this was worst things coaster I've
ever been on. Faxed you look, that is the worst.
Jonas said he lost his girlfriend that way. Yeah, so
we went. My girlfriend and at the time she took
(45:12):
me from my birthday skydiving, and so we go up
in this crummy plane, so like I didn't understand exactly
how everything was going to go down. And so we
go open this like crummy cargo plane that looked like
one of the things that crashed on Narcos, and it's
all like kind of ratchety, and I'm like, this is
kind of concerning. And then we get up there and
(45:35):
it finally dawns on me, all this guy is gonna
be on my back the whole time. Like I thought
it was going to be maybe a catch and release. Yeah,
you don't know, Like you don't if you don't ask questions,
someone tells you. And if you feel stupid for asking questions,
you know, you feel like you're gonna be judged for
being a loser. Do do you think anyone's gonna let
you jump out of a plane with a Parachu By
(45:57):
the way, but I thought I thought there was gonna
see yeah, I thought there was gonna be some separation,
you know, at some point I didn't know this was
gonna be. But his girlfriend was facing her tandem and
they were in a hugging Yeah, they were apparently see
lefting weeks after now no one confirmed that it was
(46:18):
over that situation. By the way, they were still stuck
an hour later for some reason. I don't know what
happened there at Yeah, so a whole lot of hang time.
But I just remember in a motel. I just remember,
and I remember asking him like, Hey, if we want
to come back a second time, do you guys have
to be like on our backs? Does that have to
be part of the deal, Like, well, you know, you
need to pass a certain number of Yeah. It's like, man,
(46:41):
I don't know if I could go through that again.
It just feels like I don't know. I don't I
don't know how you went through it at the first place. Yeah,
it was it was a birthday gift, you know. And
I was like, okay, I'll go for her like a
gun rack in Waynes World, Like did you actually want
to go? I mean yeah, I've always wanted to go.
I just didn't know that it came like, I didn't
know that it turned into you know, I couldn't, you know,
(47:02):
just enjoy the sky to myself. I had to have
some like the way you wanted to like you stupid. Yeah,
I mean that's very true. Yeah, he's got more pressure
on him than you did. What are you doing with yourself? Well,
I strapped terrified people to my balls. Yeah, it was exhilarating.
(47:26):
You're basically an air jockey. You're just yea, we're getting
a human horse. Did the other thing that really spring
me out about the can't it's gone by the way
it sucks all the air out of your love. The
thing that freaked me out about the zip line too.
It's like literally every nineteen year old girl in Utah,
(47:49):
it's like they're the same person. Uh, they're all little
blonde white girls. Said, They're like, they all look the
same and they all just emerged and you know, they're
all working and they do a little d Yeah, I'm
a white Mormon girl from where women And it's like
I'm trusting this eighteen year old you know from probo
(48:11):
high school, Like okay, I just hold on time trapping
you in, don't even care? Like that didn't go well,
And it's like you did you run into the tree
and then they come out and do their little song.
If you are fat, you should not know. It's just
if you didn't watch us, you had no trust. Pet
You was holding onto that thing like you was not
(48:33):
strapped in there tight, like you have to hold it
the whole way. If if you watch Petros, if you
watch on your Twitter cat at the Old p there's
a little leg kick that you give towards it. You
don't want to, uh turn sideways. And I was turning sideways,
so I was trying to even myself up. I look
(48:53):
like I'm having some kind of you do you know?
I might as well be. It was horrible then you
we're gone, Yeah, just disappeared. Yeah what do you think
that woman exploded? Looking up? It was horrible South Carolina. Yeah,
(49:14):
it's too bad. All right, get him on Twitter at
the Old Peak and check out here. Well, I was reluctant.
Are your hands okay? Like your hands? You you was
holding the hell out of that gripping and ripping, dripping
and ripping. That's not the only thing like gripping. Yeah, yeah,
that's usually I do in sundance while everybody's gone skiing.
(49:35):
Oh my god, the old p Alright, Petrus will do
it again next week. Next week. I have a game,
Ah you do, Yeah, I have Jim Mora m visiting
the Utah the Mountain West champ Utah State. All right,
(49:55):
all right, So Utaw still gets to warm up before
Alabama beats their doors in a week week one. Yeah,
how about it? Is that? Right? Yeah? I think we
went through we went through the SEC. It is Paul
fine bomb. Obviously you've got to respect Bonner. It's a
good quarterback, dude. They're good. They're good. It's just, you know,
I'm not sure how that Tuscaloosa games. What is Alabama proven?
(50:18):
Um good point. Yeah, that's radio, professional ass radio. I
mean they would kick everybody's ass out of a wing
teep too, probably though it's probably so if you could
(50:39):
recognize the double team, well that's okay, making Pat the
big Ben, all right, so we will always want to
have the old peak. Check his zip on Twitter.