Hour 3: LaVar & Brady – Players Call Tom Brady No. 1

Mike Tomlin and the Steelers will announce the starting QB between Mitch Trubisky and Kenny Pickett at their leisure. The players vote Tom Brady as the number 1 player heading into 2022. Aaron Rodgers addresses his “immunized” comments and another edition of the BQ News.

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we've been talking a lot about quarterbacks during the course
of this show, que and we are going to keep
the QB party conversations going on. And we're gonna go
to Pittsburgh for this one. All right. So the Steelers, um,
they're planning on announcing the starting QB, but it's at
their leisure and it's pretty interesting. Coach Tomlin had some

(02:08):
interesting comments about it. Let's take a listen. Like the
story quarterback I might, but you guys are not gonna
have it today again. Like I told you, guys, the
other week man, We're not gonna make knee jerk reactions
and statements following the performance. We'll go through our proper
professional procedure, will evaluate the game. We'll meet with our
front office people, will have discussions, We'll talk internally, we'll
talk external possibilities, will go through our normal procedure this

(02:32):
time of year, and we'll disclose it to you at
our at our leisure, to be quite honest with you, man,
at our leisure, to be honest. I mean, I think
I love the fact that they have a set standard,
they have a set protocol. This has not been something

(02:53):
they've probably had to deal with with the quarterback position
under his tenure there, because they've always had Big Ben.
But there will probably be looking at this like any
other position and saying, it's our quarterback. You know, this
is where we're at. This is what we've done for
other you know, players on the roster and and you know,
creating our depth chart and what we want to do
with our roster. And he's just you know, he's telling

(03:14):
how it is. Like I just I think it's very
refreshing to always listen to Mike Tomlin talk because he
is shedding some light on their process, and in this case,
you know they're not going to react like the rest
of the world does to the media or social media
or whatever else. I mean, it's one of the reasons
why Pittsburgh has been so successful for so long. And
I actually think that, you know, behind closed doors, Pittsburgh

(03:38):
should feel good about where they're at. I mean, look,
your first round draft pick, and Kenny Pickett has been
everything you'd hoped he would be this preseason. That's the
first step. Mitchell Robinsky, you know you signed him over
to be the guy this year. He's been everything you'd
hoped you would be for the most part. You know,
he's done well this preseason. Hell, Mason Rudolph has done well,

(03:59):
and he's your strained quarterback. They're fielding calls for potential
trade for him to be a you know, a formidable
backup somewhere else. So you've got to feel really good
about where you stand at least based on what you've
seen in the preseason. Now does any of that matter
once you get in the regular season, Not really, not
if you're not winning, and we'll see where things go there.
But at this point, I think one of the reasons

(04:22):
why they're probably having a harder time actually just outright
saying it is. Yeah, maybe they feel like there's too
much time before Week one of the NFL season to
want to give their their you know, opponent, you know,
any sort of advantage as to who's going to be
the guy. But even more so, I think internally they're
probably looking at saying, all right, Kenny Picketts looked exactly

(04:45):
how we thought he would. You know, we're hoping he would.
Do we want to give him a shot right away
and just start this thing? Or do we want to
go with our original plan and have Mitch Robinski be
the guy? And that might be a serious contemplation that
they've got because of how good book guys have played.
But either way, like I just I think again, you know,
I'm I'm a little down on them this year. And

(05:05):
it has nothing to do with if obviously Mike Tomlin's
coaching acumen, and as I think, more to do with
what's gonna happen at the quarterback position. But but look,
I'll give you easily wrong, like this could be a
nine ten win team. You know, when you look at
their defense, you look at their skill players and guys
like George Pickens. There's no doubt about it. So it
just comes down to whatever decision they make, how that

(05:25):
position works out. And listen, they had some you know,
some little bumps and bruises come out of out of
the game. Obviously. We if you want to touch on
the chop block on t. J. Watt, we can, we
can touch on that. But just just stating, you know,
my opinion on on his approach to the quarterback situation.
It's it. It comes to me in a in a

(05:48):
way where I love it when somebody can tell you
the truth without giving you an answer. You know, Coach
Tomlin gave an honest answer. It didn't seem cre dick.
It didn't seem you know, like it was a parable
or some type of riddle. You know, it wasn't used
as uh tactical advantage. It wasn't about Solomon. You know,

(06:13):
it was just listen, we're gonna evaluate it, we're gonna
go through the process, and you know, when we feel
like we're ready to tell you who the starter is,
we'll do it out our leisure, like basically saying we'll
do it out our leisure man. You can ask me
as many times as you like about the quarterback situation.
But I'm telling you right now, you're not going to

(06:34):
get the answer until we give you the answer, which
is the answer to the question that was given to him.
So to me, I thought it was pretty you know,
he's such a candid dude, and he he positions his
words so well that all you could do is sit
there and be like, you know, I'm sure everybody doesn't
like it, because it could come off as kind of

(06:56):
shmug a little bit almost, you know, a little bit
like you know, self absorbed maybe or maybe arrogant. I
don't know. And and if you feel that way, you
know that you're entitled to your opinion. But I I
enjoyed the way that he answered that question in particular,
And I look at this situation as I thought it

(07:16):
was a foregone conclusion that Mitch Durbinsky is going to
be the starter. I do believe that that's what it's
going to be. Cherbinsky will be the starter. Um, but
for how long? I don't know, And I don't think
that I don't. It just gives me. I just get
the opinion that they're not comfortable with letting it be
made known that he is a definitive starter because of

(07:38):
the things you said. I don't think they know how
long he's going to be the starter. So but it
just makes me wonder. And and having a new quarterback
for the first time and in so many years, um
after the Ben Roethlisberger era, is is how do you
handle you know, how do you handle this scenario in

(07:58):
this situation properly? I don't know that there's a guide
for it. In Pittsburgh because you had you had time,
um well put to you like this, there wasn't really
a a franchise quarterback of the caliber of Ben Roethlisberger
since Terry Bradshaw, if you can imagine that, So you

(08:20):
had time. Now with Ben Roethlisberger, you bring in Kenny Pickett.
And now the question is can Kenny Pickett replaced what
Ben Roethlisberger has been to the Pittsburgh Steelers. There really
is no time And and so I'm I'm interested as
to how they will handle this, if they will bring
him along with training wheels on, or if they'll take

(08:42):
him off and and just throw him into the fire
and and see what happens. Well, let me ask you this,
what do you see more likely happening that Pittsburgh's winning
and Trabinsky is just playing okay. And it's not so
much about Trabinsky losing the many games. They just feel
like they can get more out of position. They right
to start the rookie or do you think it's gonna

(09:02):
end up being because I'm assuming Trabisky is gonna start
like that. That's just my assumption at least a few
games into the season. Now, Like maybe that won't be
the case because as I've said, I think Kenny Picket
is gonna start and play this year. It's just a
matter of when. Um. But or do you think it's
gonna be due to Trabinsky playing poorly? Because again, I
feel like when they signed Trabisky and granted this is

(09:24):
you know, before they drafted pick it, but they seem
pretty adamant that like it was gonna be Trabisky this
year and maybe they you know, this would be that
second chance that he was looking for. We talked about
Steve Young, you know, getting his second chance after be
with the Tampa Bay Bucks. Granted took a little longer
um than Trabinsky. You only have kind of had to
sit by Josh Allen for a year. But in this case, like,
I just get the sense that I feel like, no

(09:46):
matter what this year, it's a tough spot from Mitch
Trabinsky to be in and in part because of how
Kenny Pickett's played in the preseason where he's drafted, but
also just because of where he's coming from. Like those
fans there have been clamoring for Kenny Picket when he
gets in because they watched them, They've watched them basically
grow up, you know, through the University of Pittsburgh now

(10:07):
be able to play there. So I think they're all
clamoring and looking forward to that story whenever that story
is there to be be told. But it's gonna be
interesting to see when that that transition is gonna take place.
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and clear, Q, and I was adding to the conversation
that pick It won the a s C. When pitt
football and Pitt basketball is doing well in Pittsburgh, life

(10:48):
is better in the city. And I'll tell you what,
if Mitch sure Bisky does not come out and play well,
if this coach and staff feels confident about pick It
coming in and being able to play and this season
can be competitive, I would expect to see pick It
coming in pretty quickly. And I don't think that they

(11:08):
will look back on that if that takes place. So
it is what it is. But you know what I
mean that this has been interesting because it has been
a football quarterback and heavy show and we're gonna continue
with the theme of quarterback and transition into the top
one players of two the players voted Tom Brady the

(11:32):
top player. What is your reactions to that. I'm not
surprised by it at all, you know. I think the
players perspective on what Tom Brady is doing at his age,
with what leading the league in in yards last year,
leading touchdown passes to something like that um at forty
five years old, I mean, it's it's I think it's

(11:55):
most appreciated by the players in the league. And there's
also probably a out that this could be his last
year doing it, and maybe that goes into it where
some players are like, hey man, you know he should
he should be going out on top or at least
viewed as that, which is pretty remarkable when when you
think about his career and by the way, not even

(12:15):
just what he's done on the field. You know, people
tend to forget too when when they've had these these
antitrust lawsuits that the union has had to go to
ensuing the NFL to take them the court during the
lockout back in what ten, you know, all that stuff,
it's it's got Brady's name on it. It's it's Brady

(12:37):
versus the NFL. Like he is. He is the player
they throw on there. So I think there's you know,
you really can't fully understand like what he's meant to
the game or fully appreciate, you know, what he's been
able to do at this point in time in his career.
That's and that's truly remarkable. So I feel like it's

(12:59):
very deserving, you know. I know people are gonna say, oh, hey,
how can he be number one? If Josh Allen's the
favorite to win m VP, isn't he the best? Then
well no, that's just the betting favorite to win it. Really,
I mean, you could make an argument Aaron Donald should
be up there at number one. You know, he's he's
the guy look at and said, I don't know anyone
who's playing at as high the level as consistently as

(13:21):
he has for his entire career like he has. So, um,
you know, this isn't about betting or gambling or m
v P odds. It's about who the players think is
the number one player. And it's hard hard to argue
with the fact that he goes in New England, has
a Hall of Fame career probably two times you can
make that case. He goes to Tampa Bay and it's
probably been put together a Hall of Fame career in

(13:44):
the short time that he's been there. So it's it's
to me, it's just incredible, you know what he's been
able to accomplish. And I think the cool part is
we're starting to see, you know, who Tom Brady is.
He was hidden from a lot of that because of
the New England regime how they handle things. But now
when you hear him kind of come back from his
vacation and people are talking about, you know, what went

(14:07):
into the decision to do it, and why is away
and all the stuff, and he was real he said
he's forty five years old. He's got a lot of
issue going on in his life and he's not wrong. Like,
I mean, you can assest to this. You know, you're
you're you're older than I am. But like the older
I get, I just keep thinking to myself, like how
hard it is to do things for yourself. And that's

(14:28):
what Tom's Brady's doing. Is he's still playing football. He's
still chasing that, you know what he's doing, And it's
it's hard to do that because you've got people who
are going into other transitions in their life. You know,
kids are going to high school, high school to college,
like all this stuff, and and then your marriage and
then your friends, and like you've got your parents and
their health conditions and that starts to be I'm real concerned, um,

(14:51):
And you've got people who passed away that are closed
around you. There's all those things that start to become
a reality that weren't a reality ten years ago. It's
so it's just to me, I think it's it's been
it's been really crazy just to see how successfully has
been at this point in time in his career, but
also how much he's opened up since he's left New England.

(15:13):
And you get to see more of that side of him,
which I think is good for the game and good
for the NFL well. As far as you know him
having sque going on in his life, I would say
a lot of people on the team have a lot
of sque going on. And and I don't think that
that's unique. I think it's unique to his age and
to his level of popularity, to his level of accomplishment.

(15:36):
For certain, I definitely don't judge him. I mean I
gave a strong opinion on it that that seems to
now becoming um prevalent and and and popular amongst uh
depundits of of what we do. But you know, as
as far as his ratings, you know, and and and

(15:57):
and let's let me say this before I go to
his rating, m for him to be considered what he
is and has have done what he has done and
accomplished what he has accomplished, you would assume somebody close
to him is saying, you know, like how Rocky was
when when he had retired and then you know, Apolo

(16:18):
got killed by the Russian and you know, Rocky wanted
to come back to the ring and and avenge the death.
It's like what are you fighting for? Like what are
you doing this for? Like you can't win, you know,
like like like at what point have you not one
enough to let it go? There's got to be somebody

(16:40):
that's sitting there saying, Tom, there's more to life than football.
There's nothing left for you to accomplish. You know. But
if that's the case, the only person really in the
end that that should matter too and should make that
decision is Tom Brady because you know what, and that's
it's his dad or it's his mom. You know, no

(17:04):
one else has known him the way that those two
people have known him. And and so before it became
The Tom Brady Show, it was just Tom Brady, you know,
and and just a regular everyday kid. And and they
had to raise that everyday kid to become what he's
now known as as the Goat. So as far as that,

(17:24):
that's something that he's going to have to do on
his own and whatever that s is that he's dealing with,
you know, I wish him the best on that because
there's always respect first. Um. But but you know what,
you know, it's your job and you got to compartmentalize
the way that you're doing and move forward. With what
you got going on. But as far as the number

(17:45):
one rating, I think it's more of a respect factor
than it is a reality factor. You know, there's obviously
a few players out there that are probably higher on
that list of being the best player in the now
National Football League, But the fact that the players voted
him as the number one guy, it's definitely the mystique,

(18:07):
the cash a, the legacy, and the respect factor of
what Tom Brady has represented and how he has represented
that for as long as he has represented it for.
And it's almost like the Pro Bowl selections, right there
are guys that go to the Pro Bowls that that
generally historically didn't have the type of season that would

(18:30):
have said they should go to the Pro Bowl, but
they get voted into the Pro Bowl by their peers
because they've earned that respect. So that's always been a
part of football culture. I don't have a problem with
him being voted a number one. I mean, if I
were voting and I was being realistic about, you know,
the talents and the impact that guys are having on
their team, I mean, I'm not gonna say that I

(18:53):
wouldn't put him in in the conversation because if we
were called, we were having the conversation. He very well
could have been in the m v P of the
National Football League last year. It didn't have to be
Aaron Rodgers. It could have very easily been Tom Brady.
So if you're coming off of an m VP campaign,
I don't have a problem with him being voted at
number one. But you did name the one dude that

(19:13):
I think is it's just, you know, if you're not
going with Josh Allen, which Josh Allen, you know, he
still has some things that needs to be proven and
my book for him to transition into being considered the
best player in the National Football League. But Aaron Aaron
Donald doesn't. Aaron Donald doesn't have to prove that he
is the most dominant football player in the National Football

(19:36):
League at this point in time. If you take Aaron
Donald away from that, that uh, the l A Realms team.
Who knows how good they are, who knows how far
they're able to go. But it isn't to the super Bowl,
and it isn't winning it. And for what it's worth,
we will always have a lasting memory of that man
putting the ring mey finger hand up after he ice

(19:57):
the game. That he dominated, which, by the way, he
should have got you know, I don't have a problem
with Cup getting it because he had a productive day
as well. But in terms of dictating the outcome of
the game and then winning the game, like you dream
of having the type of game that Aaron Donald had
in that Super Bowl and and so to do it

(20:19):
on the largest stage and in sport. Um, I mean,
I would easily gave it to Aaron Donald. But but
shots out to Tom Brady for for being the number
one guy. Yeah, I mean, I again, I don't think
anyone's gonna, you know, to dispute that again, And it's
that's the player's opinions. You know, I'd be curious to
see how close it was and who else was in
it where it was Aaron Donald or Aaron Rodgers, who's

(20:41):
obviously the two time MVP, could have easily made a
case for him. Um, and then Josh Allen, who kind
of mentioned earlier. But you know, I'd say those are
the guys, you know. That's that's more of what the
conversation has has been about, at least up to this point.
But either way, it's like I said, it's it might
be only the last time you were able to do
this right, you know, this is it. This is last
season there, you know you're not gonna be able to

(21:03):
do it. Heading. We got the b Q News coming
up shortly, but before that, there was some interesting sounds
that came from the Joe Rogan podcast leak. Can you
give us the details before we get to this sound please? Yeah,
that's right, of course. If you want to watch Aaron
Rodgers smoking a cigar and drinking some whiskey, he's there
with Joe Rogan talking about his comments from last season

(21:26):
when asked about being whether or not he was vaccinated,
and then the whole process thereafter. Take a listen. I've
been ready the entire time for this question and had
thought about how I wanted to answer it, and I
had come to clusion I'm gonna say I've been immunized,
and if there's a follow up, then talk about my process.
But I thought there's a possibility that I'd say I'm immunized.

(21:50):
Maybe they understand what that means, maybe they don't, maybe
they follow up, they didn't follow up, and then sure
enough I can track COVID in UH At the beginning
of November, end of October, her um and That's when
dorm hit because now I'm a liar, I'm in you know,
endangering uh you know, the community, my teammates, all these people,

(22:12):
and that you know, you know that the attempted takedown
of me and you know, my word and my integrity began.
But so that was that was difficult, all right. That
was Aaron Rodgers on the Joe Rogan podcast. Q. I
mean that's warranted. Like you were deceptive, you were misleading,

(22:39):
and you should have handled it differently, and you did
put other people in danger by them thinking that you
were and you know you were. Back to here, here's
what it pumped the brakes and all that. I mean
in regards to how he handled the media, I look
at as more as you just heard his train of thought.
I mean, I think the interesting thing about COVID, and
I've really said this all along, is I never understood

(23:02):
how this all of a sudden became an invasion of
everyone's privacy. Privacy whether someone wanted to get the vaccine
or not, or whatever their views were of COVID, it
doesn't matter. That's their own personal views. And by the way,
those views could have existed during flu season and whether
or not they want to get a flu vaccine or

(23:23):
anything else for that matter. Everyone's got their own perspective
on what they'd like to do with their body and
their choices in regards to their health. I've never understood
why people thought it was okay to all of a
sudden open it up and act like it's an endangerment
to everyone else, because I would then say this to you.

(23:45):
You clearly didn't pay attention to the fact that he
was wearing a wristband that identified him as not being vaxed.
He had to wear his mask around the facility and
all that like anything else, so they might not be
able to see something behind the scenes because the media
wasn't allowed in to the facility, but they could have
noticed the fact that there was a differentiation between vax

(24:05):
players and non vax players. So clearly they didn't make
that observation immunized. What does that really mean? I mean,
I'm not a reporter. I studied Paul science finance at
notored AIME and I'm getting my n b A In
entrepreneurial studies. I just happen to fall into broadcasting. But

(24:25):
I do have a natural curiosity to say, what the
hell does that word mean, like Aaron, explain that to me.
No one followed up. You've got people who spent their
undergraduate education four years, five years studying journalism, and they
couldn't ask a follow up question, and so now we would.
It's harness him saying he's endangering people. Okay, how many

(24:48):
Green Bay packers were endangered by that? No one, it's
it's it's the whole thing is absolutely asinine, and we
blew everything out of purport him because we wanted to
take a shot at a guy who's plugging as high
of a level as anyone. Which, oh, by the way,
he's not vact that he's been the league MVP the

(25:09):
last two years. I don't know. You tell me. It
seems like he's doing something right as far as his
health protocols and his regiment and understanding what he puts
in his body. So, man, you make a great point. Well,
it's just like I I personally, I'm like, why do
we care? Why do we care so much about what
other people are doing in regards to their own health regiments.

(25:32):
I don't get it. I really don't like it's a
personal thing. And I think it was a step. It
was a step way too far by the media to
care that much and try to ruin that man's reputation
and talking about his own personal decision about his health.
It blows my mind. Let me let me ask you this.
There's there there's probably someone out there right now listening

(25:54):
that's it or thinking that that he did possibly day
your other people's labs. If he contract which he did
eventually contracted. He could contracted from someone who's vaxed. By
the way, which I'm sure you didn't hear that in
part of the cut up, but I listen the whole thing,
and he contracted something from somebody who was vaxed. So
a like, I'm not gonna go down the wormhole of like, hey,

(26:16):
vax not vacs all that stuff. He didn't put anyone's
life in danger. The reality is everyone has to make
their own personal health decision. And so if you are
fearful of getting COVID, what could you have done? Get vaxed? Great,
were a mask, great, social distance, great, all those things
you do your part. If someone else doesn't want to
live that way, that's their decision, because then they're at

(26:39):
risk to be able to contract it, either if they're
not vaxed or don't wear a mask or not social
distancing or whatever else it is. But like, the reality is,
we want to nitpick about our decisions in regards to COVID,
Yet we don't want to tell someone, Hey, maybe you
shouldn't eat that time and time and time again her
maybe you shouldn't smoke that, maybe you shouldn't drink that,

(27:01):
Maybe you shouldn't do that. Like we tend to pick
and choose the arguments we want to make in regards
to certain health decisions, but not everything else, Like, hey,
maybe not that could make you diabetic if you keep
doing this, or you're more risks for lung cancer if
you smoke cigarettes, maybe you should cut that out, or
other forms of cancer if you use tobacco. Like we

(27:23):
decide when we want to draw the line when it
suits us, but not when it comes to its situations
like this. So I'm sorry, I know I'm going off
on a tangent, and I don't even mean to venture
in the political thing of it. I just like we're
to a point now where we don't even have protocols
in the NFL that are any different than if a
player has the flu. That's how we're going into this season.

(27:44):
And when you think back two years ago how we
handle things. I hope we can take it and learn
from it, and I hope we don't treat people the
way a lot of people would treat it during that
period of time. And because you're talking about people who
lost their businesses, You're talking about people who lost their
jobs because they chose not to get vaccinated, and and
it's like the reality is for what it was, their

(28:05):
own personal health decision. Like we need to start being
more respectful of other people out there in their own decisions,
regardless of what you think. Because there was a bunch
of people on Twitter who are experts on COVID all
of a sudden like they were Dr Fauci, and it's like,
my god, can we just pump the brakes for a second.
Realized everyone's dealing with something a little bit different with
their own personal health. So I just look. I think

(28:27):
the thing I took from that was he had his
own person, his own approach to it. It made seem
deceitful for a media that were lazy and didn't do
their job, and people on an instagramd with them trying
to damage that man, that man's reputation and that's something
that's very, very hard to maintain anymore with the way
our society is with social media and everything else out there. Man,

(28:49):
I had a follow up question to this, but I
mean just real quickly because I don't want to go
too long because I want to get to the b
Q News with enough time. But all right, here's here's
my follow up. Should people should anyone care? I mean,
should this be a big deal at this point? I mean,
he felt like he needed to address it. Do you
think that it was even relevant enough for him to

(29:10):
even bring it back up for it to be consumed?
I don't know that he necessarily brought it back up.
I think Joe Rogan did. Yeah, that's fair like but
but I think going on Joe Rogan's podcast, he had
to have known it was gonna come back up. So
what what? What do I think? What do I think
is prerogative was or motivation was? It was take a

(29:31):
victory alab like, That's what it was. I mean, it
was the basically to say, look like I was still
the m v P. We didn't win a super Bowl,
but I was viewed as the best player in the
NFL two years in a row. Now I kind of
got one over your heads to to a certain degree.
And now we look back on COVID and there's some
people who are saying like, yeah, like we took a
stance on this all along, but no one wanted to listen.

(29:53):
How's that look, how's that stance looking now, or how
is it looking now? How I handled it? So I
think that was that was honestly probably some of the
motivation behind it. I mean, outside of the fact that
Joe Rogan's got a huge platform and um obviously is
incredibly polarizing. So it kind of is what it is.
But it's I think he knew going into it that
conversation was going to take place, and he was thoughtful

(30:15):
enough to say, like, I'm just gonna come clean. This
is exactly how I looked at it, and it was
and look at it as we talked about it, LaVar
like that was My assumption is that he knew that
if he said immunized, no one would actually go, We'll
wait a second, what does that mean? Like they would
just assume. And you grew up in a military family.
I grew up in a military family, so I can

(30:36):
tell you exactly what my dad taught me at a
young age why you should never assume anything right and exactly,
and so that that's where I I'm sitting there listening
to this going okay, And by the way, it's a
great interview if people didn't check out, because they talk
about a lot of the things like you know, that
cal Berkeley professor telling him he'd never make it, and
just some of the motivations behind stuff. But but again,

(30:59):
you have all this great content and the only thing
we're talking about is his you know, his vaccination status
and that whole debacle last year with the media, which
is kind of tells you where we are as a society.
We're going to do the b Q News, all right,
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(31:19):
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(33:04):
We're gonna start off with one of our first stories
from New York. By the way, you've got a mother
and daughter who basically frauded out credit card companies through
hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yes, this is over an
eight year period. Basically, the mom and daughter took all
sorts of extravagant vacations, buying designer purses and clothing, and

(33:31):
then they would just make and claim these are these
fraudulent charges with the credit card companies. I mean literally
getting back at times six figures from the credit card companies. Finally, though,
they have been caught and now they're gonna have to
serve time for all of these falsely disputed charges uh

(33:51):
as as fraudulent. The prosecutors are saying it's kind of
crazy that it took them this long to figure it out, though, right,
eight years to figure you're out, like, hey, maybe these
people aren't actually like constantly getting their credit card stolen.
Maybe they're just doing all the spending and trying to
get the money back. Jeez, sounds like them Cupon like warriors.

(34:11):
You know, they'd be finding them loopholes and the cuponds.
They did a TV show series on them. It's pretty
interesting today. Yeah, yeah, it was interesting. They they were
like finding loopholes with the Cupons and then they found
Cupon distributors and we're trying to steal the Cupons. And
then they had a Cupon expert, a forensic expert for

(34:32):
the cue ponds. And yeah, it was just a whole thing.
But eight years, man, they was hustling hard, That's what
I'm saying. Hustling hard. You keap working around different credit
card companies too, which is kind of interesting, but I
don't know, a little disjointed the fact that they couldn't
seem to figure this out. But I mean everything from
the vacations, car rentals, hotels, you name it, watches they

(34:55):
were purchasing it. They were traveling around, living the life
until it all came to to a crash agend. Yeah, unfortunately,
there you go. But unfortunately or unfortunately dependingly you look
at it, some people don't stick to the credit card companies.
Vanessa Bryant was accidentally awarded an extra one million dollars

(35:16):
by her federal jury. Yeah, it wasn't until a jury
discovered an error on the verdict and formed the court balls.
So she was supposed to get sixteen million basically from
her settlement with the deputis and firefighters who shared photos.
But instead she'll only get fifteen kind of interesting hurt
her like that. Um well, I'm glad she got an

(35:37):
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