Hour 2: LaVar, Brady & Jonas – NFL Roster Cuts

NFL teams make their final roster cuts down to 53, but are teams moving on from players faster than even? The guys react to new transfer portal rules and a special Labor Day edition of Would You Rather.

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night obviously in the world of college football. We got
wall to wall college football all weekend long. I mean,

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everybody's fired up here. We're gonna be talking more about,
you know what sort of action we're gonna get in
on this Penn State Purdue game. He's already calling for
a flea flicker in that game for Purdue. Then if
it happens, he's gonna call in and harass everybody here
on the show. I mean, this, this whole thing and
this whole night is gonna be a lot of fun.
What's not fun is if you're one of these players

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in the NFL and you are getting cut or you're
getting released by some of these teams. Although if you
are one of those players, you were probably signed yesterday
by the Chicago Bears, who made six signings, six waiver
deals to to make things happen, which seems like maybe
not a great sign for for where the Bears are headed,
the fact that they were this active following cut days,

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but a lot of players and maybe even some surprising ones.
Kelvin Mund included that they're no longer with their teams
that have drafted them pretty recently, so kind of a
wild time. It has been weird. I mean, LaVar, I
don't know if you feel this way, but I feel
like there's like more guys teams just moving off from runway,
like like a new regime isn't even giving them a shot,

(02:23):
Like they basically just get there. They're like, yeah, you
don't really fit. We're gonna We're gonna move on. I
mean honestly, like think about all the Raiders cuts, the Vikings,
if you go if you go back, like the Vikings
kind of got off the hook for how many cuts
they had. Go back and look at their draft class
for just a year ago. I think it kept like
three or four guys like the rest are all cut,
and they had a decent sized draft class. So it's

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it is odd like how fast teams just moving on,
which I mean, look at people on the outside probably
listening to don't care about this, but you do have
about almost a thousand guys who are now jobless and
looking for the opportunity to play in the NFL. And
it's tough because put yourself in their shoes for a second.
Imagine you get out of college, you trade for this
your entire life, You get an opportunity, and in fact,

(03:08):
like the team selects you and then a year later
they're like, yeah, we've got some new management. Um, we
don't they know you that well, but you know, look,
you probably don't fit what we do. We're just gonna
move on. It's like you don't even get a chance
really to prove yourself. So it's it's it's tough, I think,
to be able to deal with the fact of just
the change. And sometimes some of these guys even necessarily

(03:29):
do anything bad. They're just not the right fifth for
the scheme, not the right fifth for what that team
is looking for, the wrong place, wrong time. It's showing, Uh,
six of the eleven players the Vikings drafted in one
got cut. So like this week they just said, yeah,
well we're we're good here. I mean, here's here's the
part that's interesting about it. And yeah, people probably look

(03:51):
at it and go, don't care. Well, listen, I mean
those guys got cut. I mean they've made it, you know.
They they've got an opportunity and if they do get
signed somewhere, they're going to make a good amount of money.
If this happened in any other industry or any other
business where you're just getting clipped this quick into it,
you look around, going the hell is that? Like, it
feels like there's there's no real grace period for a

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lot of these guys and they get into the league,
neither you can figure it out, or if we're not
a believer in you, you're gonna end up somewhere else.
Like the Kellyn Moon situation is weird. I didn't realize
that he was struggling that bad. But I also don't
think that he was in the best situation being Mike Zimmer,
who aired him out and had nothing but you know,
negative things to say about him last year. Now Zimmer's gone,

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and it's like he gets labeled and painted as something else,
and so now he moves on. Josh Rosen is another example.
It just feels like a lot of these guys, unless
you have a believer in you from the get go,
you're just gonna be battling up hill to try and
get a job. Well, it's a it's a job. It's
it's a job description that you know coming in. It's

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all based upon production and and if you're not producing,
then you just got to take a good, long, hard
look at at the situation as a player and also
as a staff, because the idea of it is is
it's like the trickle down effect. If the general manager

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doesn't choose the right players or the right coach and
they're losing, then the general manager is going to lose
their job, you know well, or or he'll just blame them,
and then he hires a whole new staff and then
after that staff doesn't work out, then maybe he gets fired. Yeah.
But but again like just the idea of like how
how it all works, Like the owners aren't getting fired,

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so the owners want their their results. So in the end,
who's going like why do you have to produce The
gms have to produce a staff that's going to bring
in good players. Uh, he has to produce a good
coach that's going to develop those play years and and
when if that doesn't happen, they're going to replace that

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that GM. If the coach doesn't develop those players and
give strong feedback or bring in his staff of guys
that are going to help with with you know, scouting
and who you're going to go out there and you're
going to draft, or who you're gonna bring in for
uh free agencies or possible trade scenarios. Then you know

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you're you're already behind the eight ball. If you don't
I get that, But what's the timetable? Then? Yeah, well
I think it's changing it used to be. They give
you about two three years, you know, maybe a little longer,
you know, for you know, the threshold might have been
five years back in the day. You know, today's NFL

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it is microwave. It is microwave success. So I mean
you might get one year. Generally speaking, you might get
one year to show that you belong to be a coach?
You know, four teams? Is it because the coaching turnover?
And it is that trickle down effect because every offseason,
what is there six or seven coaches that are getting clipped?

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Which is what of coaches that in the league that
are looking for jobs the next season. If that's the case,
they're probably looking around going I'm under the gun. I
gotta start making some moves here. And I just wonder
if it's a volatile, turbulent industry though, and and if
people really took the time to take a step back

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and look at how volatile and how turbulent it is.
I mean, families are having to adjust every year. Coaches
are heading towards different cities every year. Players are heading
towards different cities every every season, sometimes more than once
during the course of a season. So it's a turbulent job,

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like that's what you've signed up for. So I don't
I don't think that people should look at it and
feel sorry for those who it's a production job and
it is unique from a lot of other industries that
that will go into performing. It's not it's not from
a lot, it's from all of them. I mean, I
think about a third of your workforce, if not closer
to a half gone. I mean, and by the way,

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you just got your job in April, like like we're
now sitting here with September one today, so you've got
five months to prove yourself or you're gone. And there's
not many there's not many careers I would say almost
probably all that that don't give you at least six months.
I mean, you're talking about some cases guys who when

(08:31):
we talk about like development or time to showcase or produce,
what are you producing in that five It's not like
I think the biggest issue with today's NFL is a
lot of these younger players don't get developed because of
the coaching turnover. These coaches are more concerned with their
job security and making sure they have the best players

(08:54):
possible to go out there and win and not development
or not what the team looks like at the end
of the season because they don't know if they'll make
it through this season. So they're just worried about, Hey,
we gotta go out there and win because I started
know what he's doing. Does my backup have an idea
of what he's gotta do? Okay, anyone else, don't give
a crap. I'll figure that out, you know, the next
week and whatever issue we got that It is like

(09:15):
a you know, a need basis. And that's the tough
part is I don't know many other careers where you know,
you're kind of bored into this volatility and and just
everything else that comes with it. And it's different, Like
it's hard to assimilate to the rest of society because
when you get a job, like usually you're getting on
board and you're getting trained there, like teaching, it's a

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lot slower process than in some cases, it's hard to
get fired like like like like they're not going to like.
That was one of my biggest issues transition out of
the NFL is you would go do something, for example
and broadcasting on TV, someone would forget to run something
or they'd run the wrong tape. Where you're on live
TV and they're showing you something that's not what you

(09:57):
asked for, or now are you're prepared for the production
a meeting? And I've been thinking to my head like, dang, dude,
like this person would get fired if they were playing
in the NFL. But but but a TV, they're just like, Oh,
that's just Steve. Steve does that from time to time,
and you're like, what what a great guy like Steve's awesome,
He's so funny. But prepare for a second. No, I

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do have to ask this question because I saw this
like circulating during social media yesterday. I was like, oh,
here we go. But it is an interesting topic. So
so there's some guys who that'll be it. They got
signed after the draft as an undrafted free agent or
maybe even drafted, and they don't catch on anywhere else,
not even a practice squad right, which those rules by
the way, have changed, Like you got dudes have been

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in the NFL and active rosters for like five years
or now practical on eligible somehow I have no idea
how what what the how they changed the rule to
make that happen. But anyway, do you guys count that
as them being a part of an NFL team that
they make a practice squade. Yeah, like there's some of
those guys who are using as part of their dating profile.
No, no no, no, not made a practice squad, just getting
signed for like that period of time the summer to

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training camp and then that's it. No, man, I do
LaVar is gonna come down hard on him. Yeah, well,
I mean that's just the truth. Well look, I mean,
if that's the case, and brock Lesner was a former
NFL player because he was in the Vikings training camp
and made it all the way to final cuts, and
I don't know that anybody has ever as great as
his resume is. I don't know anybody's ever said that
you have to you have. I mean, you don't get

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credit towards towards your pension for that. No, but we're
talking about on your tender profile. Would if if I'm
if I'm going into work every day and I'm I'm
even if I'm collecting minimum wage to be a part
of the practice team, I am a part of the team.
I just I'm just not a part of the active ross.
I would also take the lie this much further. I

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would change anybody that contact like say you remember the
Tampa Bay Box anybody. Like if if I had a guy,
a buddy of mine who I spoke to regularly, um
and he would contact and communicate with me regularly, I
would change his name on my phone to Tom Brady
to make it seem like Tom Brady was still reaching
out to me even though I wasn't a member of
the team. I mean, if you're gonna go all out

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on this, lie, let me let me put it this way,
to even play college football at a high level, you're
still like for like a small small percentage, and then
just even signed with the team, it's still a small percentage.
So I could see statistically why you can make the

(12:33):
case for those people, because it's not like everyone who
just finishes playing football and college goes on it gets
a chance of the NFL. Like, think about that for
a second. You still are only a fraction of of
what actually graduates or their eligibility expires as a shot.
So I'm not condemning them either way. I think you'll
use what you can. We all know you're living a lot.

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I was gonna say, there's a lot of people who
are living all I mean, I trust me, like, like
like if that's if that's where we're gonna draw the line.
It's like that there's a lot of people look at
Manti was college sweetheart exhibit A. But what like do
we we just saw the whole story, Like, how does
that relate here? Well, I'm just saying, you know that

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there's a lot of people living a lie, and that's
that right. There was a lot trying to a tone
for that now. I mean, honestly, I think if you
if you felt anything that you feel bad for not
at love for Hawaii, hold Jonas would have been catfish
and he would have easily played on talking about the
other than I. Yeah, I'm not talking about I'm not

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talking about Manti Tam. I'm talking about Ranya, the liar
and the whole story, who didn't want to take accountability
for for basically any of it and just said, well,
you know, but it was all me, just Ruin, Yeah,
it was all me. It's just you know, yeah, just
you know, the different sex and you know that picture
so much better about myself now, though, knowing that I
I set things, you know right, so that you know,

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I could move on with my life. You know what
a scumbag it is? A scumbag move. But yeah, I mean,
if you are, it's true. There's other words for we don't.
It's a spoiler alert. A lot of people still haven't
seen the story, but there is some things that have
changed all of a sudden, you know, things have changed.

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But I mean, yeah, if you're gonna go through with
it and you're gonna claim that you're an NFL player
but you never actually technically made a practice squad or
anything like that, I think you've got to really belabor
practicing and you're in the locker room and you're lifting
their weights and you are playing in preseason games. What
you get, you get a little. Yeah, I'm saying you
don't make you don't make the final cut. That's it.

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It counts. Account it counts, it counts, and I'm not
gonna shame them. If it's on the profile, then I
like look them up and like, wait a second, well
no not and that they're not on a team. If
they just say former NFL player and it was only
for that period of time, I'd be like, yeah, that's fine.
I mean I don't care, you know, if that's what
he's doing to kind of And there's there's some experiences

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I think people take from that five month period. Probably. Okay,
let me ask you this, what percentage if you had
to guess of all your college teammates, what percentage made
the NFL and made an active roster of your entire
college career? A. I mean, just like like a ballpark
figure what do you think it? Just a ballpark figures
scholarship players for every four years. Right, So you're talking

(15:34):
about roughly what is that thirty you know, three forty
players or whatever. And I guess you've got some that
are you're you're going with in your class. But let's see,
let's say you got three hundred guys. I would say
you probably are talking about I don't know. I mean
we we don't have a lot of guys drafted. We

(15:54):
did from my wed years might be different. Yeah, we did,
Like from like my first year there I was with
guys like Joe Jarre Vicious, Curtis Enis, you know, I
mean our offensive line. You know, we had a few
guys go from our offensive line. We had uh Brad Skioli, Uh,

(16:17):
uh Jim Nelson, Uh, Aaron Collins. But are we talking
like less of all your teammates. Yeah, like that's what
might say less than five. It would be a better
it would be a better comparable two starters versus the
entire rock But like making but they think this, you know,
makes your point even better? Is that making any like

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getting past the high school level and getting an opportunity
and first of you're a scholarship player, and then even
if you're not a scholarship player, for a lot of guys,
that this is something that maybe people may not take
into consideration. College ball being able to play, especially major
college ball, that is the pinnaclecent But your understanding of

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it is what I'm saying. You're understanding that this is it.
I probably won't even touch the field like a Matt rule,
you know, And then a Matt rule ends up being
able to play special teams or they get garbage duty
and games. That's the you know, I mean for him,
he ended up having a great coaching career, but you're
not going to see them make it into the league,

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you know what I mean. So most more often than not,
so if you look at starters on teams, you know,
or even the backup, the second in line at these
major schools, it would probably be a better comparison in
terms of what is the percentage, because in some of
these schools, the percentage is super high in terms of
the guys that play. So you have guys that come

(17:44):
into college that play, and then you have guys that
are they're they're going to be scout team guys. They're
going to be special team guys, you know, And that's
that's just what their role is. And that that's why
I still like watching preseason football because I watch it
and go, do you understand how much better these guys
are than the average person that's ever play I played,
don't even have a chance to make it, not even

(18:06):
I played on scoop. I was awful. These guys are
so much better than everybody that's watching or criticizing him
or saying, oh God, get rid of the preseason. It
doesn't matter, it doesn't you know. I mean you got
rid of one game, just get rid of all of it. No, No, Like,
there is a level of play that I still think
people have a hard time like being able to reason

(18:27):
with and being able to relate to when it comes
to the quality of player in the NFL. And that's
why the term bust. Some of the criticism I hear
I don't get it. I really don't understand it. Like,
do you know how hard it is to even make
a college scholarship level, let alone make it to the NFL,
even on the preseason level. So yeah, I go with
a lie. You know, say you played in the NFL.

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Why not just go with it. I think they've earned it,
they've earned that right it's something wrong, I'll give it.
I'll give especially if it helps them totally agree and
I can help saying it really really benefit trust me
because because because here's the thing is, guys will get
blamed for like saying chauvinistic things like well, I want
to find, you know, a woman who I feel like,

(19:10):
you know, I can you know, make some big kids
with so you get were tall and athletic and stuff. Man,
women are doing the same exact thing. My wife is
five foot one, and she told me, she's like, yeah,
of course, like you're tall. She's like one of my
kids to be taller and one of my kids to
be a short all the stuff. And I was like,
I mean, like they think the exact same way. They
just don't get in trouble for saying it. I gotta

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be honest. And it worked because all my kids look
like got the perfective Professor x Xavier School of Mutants.
It worked. That's called great. Yeah, you're big, big stud

(19:55):
out like a triple C on winter. Yeah. My father
resis so he patted me on my shoulders, felt my
arms and he was like, yeah, you're gonna work, you
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this hour a little over fifteen minutes from now, it's
another edition of would You Rather? We've got some fun
questions from around the world of sports and beyond we
will partake in, so I'll stick around for that here
on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously, this is the Labor Day
weekend of college football Thursday through Monday, and we're gonna
have a ton of college football action, college football games
and a little bit of a sprinkle alright, a little

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bit of a bump if you will for your college
football needs. And uh and if you're Jones or some
college football you got it last weekend. But we're in
full throttle mode when it comes to college football this weekend.
And speaking of college football, apparently the transferport is gonna
look a little bit different. Huh. We got what two
windows are gonna be working with now to where they're
gonna do it right after the championship selections and then

(21:47):
the first couple of weeks of May in which players
can enter the transfer portal. So now we're not going
to have this uh year long battle of whether or
not Brue McCoy is gonna pick a nineteenth team in
three year is to go play for So apparently this
is a heading in the right direction for college football.
Hunh Brew McCoy is turning into the Van Wilder of

(22:08):
of student athletes. At this point, he's still got three
years of eligibility, I think too, by the way, he
might have more just because of the total transfer portal,
Like do you know so tonight, for example, do you
know this will be Sean Clifford's sixth year he's been
at Penn State. I think he came at seen you
know who else will be a sixth year Eaton O'Connell. Ye, yes,

(22:34):
it's all because the COVID deal. And that's one of
the things too that I think with the portal and
the additional years of eligibility given by the n c A,
it's been harder for high school recruits to get offers
because some of these schools would rather have a more
proven or developed commodity as in a college player. But
I don't want to get off on a tangent here um.
This is this is a step in the right direction.

(22:55):
In my opinion, for you know, trying to put some
parameters around what's happening. So basically, starting in December five
to January eighteenth is your first window, and then it's
May one to May fifteen. So you know, basically, in
the first case, you got about three weeks. In the

(23:15):
second case, you have two weeks. That's all you need.
These kids shouldn't be able to just throw their name
in and bounce whatever they want. That's not how life works,
that's not how this works. I think this is a
good lesson to teach kids. And I also think, you know,
for those out there who are like, well, what do
you mean the coach could go whatever they want. Here,
here's the here's the truth of that. There's exemptions for

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players who go through head coaching changes or lose their scholarship.
So the n c isn't even making exceptions for that.
So all those people worried about that scenario, there you go.
You have nothing to complain about. But this will help,
I think, curtail some of the tampering. To be quite
transparent that's going on with with n c A rosters,

(23:57):
especially in season um, and this will help limit that.
And I think you know, Crittic windows like this is
very similar to what you see the pro level, and
it makes a lot of sense in my mind. Uh
you know, I just feel like there's a lot of
angles that could be taken on, you know, the whole
transfer portal deal. I mean, the one thing that really

(24:17):
has really been a concern to me is is that
these kids are are under young young men, are are
not seemingly aware of some of the particulars connected to
what the transfer portal represents. While while looking at the
positives and how it's benefited you know, big time players.

(24:40):
I mean, Okay, Caleb and Addison they come to USC
we don't know how that's gonna play out yet, but
we see that there was benefits to them being able
to leave, or Spencer Rattler being able to leave go
to somewhere else. But for every every story that you
hear and see of guys choosing where they're going to

(25:02):
go in terms of another school and and play, there
are a lot of guys right now that are sitting
at home. Imagine this, They're either at juco colleges or
they're sitting at home right now, out of school. They're
not getting an education. And last I check when you're
doing education based athletics, which that is still what college

(25:25):
football at its bare root minimum is is educational based
um athletics. You're talking about a very very you know,
I'm not sure what the percentage would be, but just
based off of a lot of the conversations that I've
heard from different young men and these scenarios, once you leave,

(25:46):
you can't go back. And I think that's what people
have to understand. Once you under to transfer portal, you
can't go back. So it's not like, oh, my fault,
my fault, my bad, I didn't get a new school,
like I'll just it out here, like you know, no worries,
like no harm, no foul, like no, you're out, you're gone.

(26:06):
And so a lot of these young young men are
sitting at home and and to me, a rule like this,
I think it's going one put put the schools in
a little bit more of a I don't know, maybe
it's a more they have to move quicker in terms
of how they're going to identify who they're going to

(26:27):
deal with, which probably is to the benefit of of
everyone involved. And then you're thinking about these kids, they
got to take a really, really hard long look at
what trying to enter into the portal looks like and
how you're going to go about doing that, And I
think that it's going to force these young men to
look at their situations a lot differently, like take some

(26:51):
of the benefits that are connected to where you are
and don't make it purely based off of what's happening
on the field. And I think we've gotten a little
bit far away from the idea of understanding there are
way more tremendous benefits that you're going to have being

(27:12):
a part of these major institutions versus what the the outcome,
the ultimate outcome of what you're playing career is on
the field, you're going to do something if I would
urge people to pay attention as it applies to what
what the transfer portal has, as you know, created is
the conversation you don't go to a school just because

(27:36):
of the way the uniform looks. That's nice, but you
don't go there for that. I think you said there's
a while ago, que I went to Notre Dame because
I like the school and what it had to offer,
and I think that that's something that has gotten lost.
You gotta understand if you're going to this school, you
gotta look at, like, what what do you want to
do with your life if it doesn't work out in

(27:58):
in football because you're going to school. I mean, apparently
when you're in in high school, you're working to get
to college to get more education, and you're playing sport,
so so you're actually learning curriculum that can lead to
you getting a career job, and you go to these
schools that provide the career opportunities there they recruit these schools.

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These are conversations that are far from the heirs of
these athletes, and as far from the media and as
far from what general knowledge is. You gotta get back
to going to school for school and understand that the
football aspect of it is, Yeah, you want to have
a good coach, you want to have a good team
that you're going to play for if you have those

(28:42):
opportunities to choose, but you also want to make sure
you're choosing that school based off of what your educational
components can provide for you in the future. Even if
you do make it to the league, you're going to
retire at some point, you know, and you might only
make it three four years in the lead you're gonna
want to do something else in your life, and I

(29:03):
think that that's something that has to be taken into
consideration and more of a conversation moving forward versus touching,
touch and go or running go somewhere else, Like it's
not just about that, and that in fact, that shouldn't
be the main part of why you choose a school,
don't you think. Also, just from an entertainment standpoint, the

(29:24):
May first fift window is going to be a lot
of fun to see who goes where, because if it's
gonna happen and you can't stop it. A lot of
people aren't up to speed on high school football, so
they don't know National Signing Day. Hey, we hear this
kid's great in high school football, but maybe we've never
seen him because we're not watching a high school football
game in Florida, um or a high school football game

(29:44):
in Texas or California on a national level. But a
lot of these players, you do know who they are
from college and now they're moving around and it's kind
of like a little bit of a mini free agency
like they have in the NFL where you have these
free agent frenzy and all these moves. I think it's
kind of cool that they've narrowed it down down and
so you get to May. It's a slower time of
the year in the sports calendar. You might have some

(30:05):
NBA playoff games, but it's usually early on, and who
cares about early on NBA playoff games? And all of
a sudden college football rolls out this two week window
where it's like, hey, you could get a big time
player like last year's Bullitt Nacoff winner who decides he
wants to leave PIT and go to USC. I don't know.
I think it's kind of fun for the sport that
we're actually gonna shine a spotlight on on their version

(30:26):
of free agency. I also think it it helps prepare
the schools and even the players like it allows because
here's the reality. These are eighteene b y u anyway, Um,
they're young people, and they tend to act emotionally and

(30:47):
make decisions based on emotion. And I look at and
go look at if they've got a period of time
to give it a few weeks or a month or
whatever they're thinking to be able to like calm down
and act Shu. You look at the landscape and say, like,
do I want to be somewhere else, do you know,
or is this what's best for me in the long run.
I think they'll end up making better decisions because to

(31:09):
LaVar's point, you know, what we do, what we don't
talk about is in the cases of which people don't
get degrees, guys don't end up playing anywhere. I mean,
Brue McCoy has kind of been so far at least
the case study for this. Who knows if I'll ever
pan out. But you've got all these players who are
moving around. It's like, well, is it really working out
for everyone? I think it is for quarterbacks, you know,

(31:30):
like for example backyard Brawl, West Virginia's gonna have JT.
Daniels on his third school and then Keen Slovis on
his second school. They're both starting, they both get to play,
and honestly, both pitt And and West Virginia are better
off for it, right Like those teams are are probably
better off having more talents and quarterbacks because of the portal.
But that's not always the case. Doesn't always work out
like that. So I think the windows to kind of

(31:51):
help provide a cooling off period and also a better
preparation for the parents. The player, the schools all involved,
and then say, okay, these are the windows where working
with we can get all the stunt during this period
of time, other than you know, people making an emotional
accision or the coaching staffs and the university is having
to deal with this all yr own. It's Two Pros
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of a sad ending to a story that we talked about.

(33:16):
It's very it's a bummer, a little bit disappointing, but
we will get into that conversation with you a little
over ten minutes from now here on fs are right now, though,
it is time for something we do every single week
on the show, and it's called this or would you
rather your random topics, sports or otherwise? And for that

(33:40):
we go over to our executive producer who was still
trying to find out where the term flee flicker came from.
Lead lap I did find out where fleeflicker came from.
Actually it was from Bob Zuppy from Illinois, and he
said it was to invoke the quick flicking action of
a dog getting rid of his fleece. So off, see

(34:01):
there you go. Yeah, So if I would if we
would have never asked you about it. You just want
to let it fly like whatever. People will figure it out.
Maybe our four we can get to it. I mean,
because that was like interesting, that's an interesting little tidbit.
And you just sat on that the entire show. I
saved it for a perfect timing, bastard. Come on, all right,
what do we got? All We got a Labor Day
edition of Would you Rather? And we'll start with this,

(34:23):
Would you rather sit in traffic all the way to
the beach or stay in the city for Labor Day?
Stay in the city. I'm gonna sit in the traffic. Man,
what city are we talking about? Whatever city you might
be in? Yeah, for Lauderdale, Dublin. Can we make it Dublin, Ohio?
Just so I can feel at home. There's there's really
no beach nearby, so I mean, that's not possible. So

(34:45):
I fell up a bathtub, put some sand on the floor,
same thing. Man. Let's make it worse as the lakes though.
You'd go to a lake beach big time. Yeah, I
guess it could lake here. I don't know. I'd probably
just stay in the city. Yeah for a little bit
yard barbecue. Alright. I hate traffic, I do too. But
if it's that one time that everybody wants to go

(35:06):
sit on the beach, and I'd rather sit in the
beach than stay in the city. You want to be
driving or sitting in the car with a roadshow, though
we'll be doing both. But I don't. I mean, I
don't condone that. I don't condone that, condone it. I
don't condone that. See, that's how you know Laar's old school.
That's how you know Lamar's old school as I do.

(35:32):
That's exactly what my father would have said. Yeah, what
I say, how does that dot? Would you rather get
eaten alive by mosquitoes or get a full body sunburned?
Oh god, I'm going you pick up betweet death. Well,

(35:52):
you know, mosquitoes are terribly for some of us family.
Could you imagine getting bit all over your body about mosquito?
I gotta go mosquitoes, man. You know, spoken by someone
who throws on long sleeve shirts and biker shorts with
Fannie packs and goes hiking while the family on the beach.

(36:14):
You'd rather die, is what you're saying. Okay, I have
a family history of melanoma. It's like it's it's a problem,
and it's you know it's gone that direction before without
getting into too many details, So just go ahead and
get chewed up. Work with that. I'll scratch myself and
take my chances. I don't have like the West Nile
virus or whatever it's called to one one to two

(36:37):
to three to four. Mosquito bites is one of the
biggest nuisances of body skin irritation. Yeah, so I imagine
if you're getting mosquito dry to death to death, man,
I just be on your head. It'd be on your face.
Tell me your cracks and crevices of your body like

(36:59):
and no way, my ankles look like Carson wants his
neck like. I get chewed up all the time. I know,
I from top of the bottom to death. Alright, but
imagine skin burned and issues. You're a weird guy. I
mean you would pick a media death over sunburn. Okay,

(37:22):
look up melanoma, right and you know what's saying you're
getting melanoma. We just said sunburn. I have scars all
over my body from getting stuff removed because it was
heading towards a bad direction, right, Like, I literally I've
gotten stuff. I think that's a scam by the way
like when you go to the dentist they tell you

(37:43):
have a pre cavity, You're like, well, what's a pre cavity?
What's not a cavity yet it's going to be Oh really,
So if I brush and mouthwash and floss, I'm not
going to prevent it from becoming a cavity. Yeah, so
that means it's already a cavity. Like what you could
predict the future like dentists now, like, that's just a
small cavity. It's just too small to sit there and

(38:03):
say it's a cavity. It's like it's like it's more
like spraining if if you stubb, if you stub a finger,
like it's like all right, you know you you stretched
your ligament out like and then some would say it's
a slight tear. It's just not as bad a tear
as one. It's not that right, which makes Jonas off

(38:26):
on this one trying to make it so bring it on.
I hope you get caught up with with some mosquito,
like a whole like deal of mosquito that Tabasco commercial.
That guy was eating tobasco and the mosquito flew away
and exploded all go Indian food and I'll get nine
on one sauce on the side and I'll start exploding
mosquitoes that go near me. Does that work? Yeah? Weird,

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