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September 8, 2022 38 mins

Lamar Jackson sets a Friday deadline for a contract extension. Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer updates the biggest storylines before opening kickoff and another edition of the BQ News.

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of the NFL season. It is Game one of the
NFL season. We are fired up about it. You've got
a lot of people that are waking up and joining
us on the blowtorch a M five seventy l A
Sports ready for their defending Super Bowl champion l A Rams.
Even though a lot of people feel like they're gonna
be dwarfed in attendance tonight from the Bills fans that

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have already embarked to Los Angeles. It kind of feels
like a waste of a trip though, because when you
want to escape Buffalo when it was cold out and
come to a warm weather place instead, they're gonna lead Buffalo. Yeah.
I don't think they realize the heat wave that your
guys are dealing with right now. It's pretty brutal. It's bad,
although in that stadium I heard it is, uh, it's

(02:09):
a little bit chilly. Like they make sure the A
C is cranked up. You there will be no power
outages there. I can assure you that if they're cranking
a C in there, and they're telling everybody to turn
their A C off everywhere else that that would seem
a tad bit weird. Yeah, well, I'm just saying, deal
deal with the elements the same way the people they're

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telling to turn their A C off from four to nine,
you know, deal with that, had that a C from
four to nine. I wonder during the game the game
starts at five o'clock. Here, they're supposed to turn to
a C off in and so far at four o'clock
and not turn it back on until nine. So what
would that roughly be if the game starts at five

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and in that what eight? Okay, so no a see
for y'all, No, no's you know the governor governor rule. Yeah,
and uh and mask up probably that's probably still in uh,
you know, still in existence as well too. How soon,
you know what? I wonder, how soon into the game

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do you think we get our first cramp? When's that happening?
First half? Second half? Um, first half, Brady, It is hot,
it is hot. I'm I'm assuming the guys are getting
I V S. So I'm I'm assuming that, like they'll
be good until that they get the second half, and

(03:36):
that's when it's going to hit them a little bit.
M thank you. That's all I know. Now my clothes
was getting cramps the other day. Was that out of
practice or were you at just hanging around the house
because you had that tarantula who knocked on your door
and said, hey, can I get a glass of water
or something? Man or woman. I don't know what what

(03:58):
the gender was. I don't know the race of it,
but I just know that it was a grown nass
uh spider. Now, yeah, here's what we do know is
that your super Bowl pick, and by the way, we
did make our season predictions are super Bowl picks and
division picks. You can check those out at the podcast
at Fox Sports Radio dot com. But we did uh

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you know one of them. Levard Irrington picked the Baltimore Ravens.
As I butcher that all over the place. It's so
hard to talk about it. So Soar had the Baltimore
Ravens going to the Super Bowl and winning the Super Bowl.
Uh and in his picks. But Lamar Jackson, the quarterback

(04:42):
of the Baltimore Ravens, he's still trying to get himself
a contract extension. He did update everybody as to what
the timeline looks like as far as getting this deal done.
Here was Lamar yesterday would not be talking about a contry.
I'm thinking hope as far as a deadline in his
week and his week Friday. So there it is Friday.

(05:04):
That's the deadline, all right. So if there is no
contract done by Friday, So Brady, when you were in
Austin getting ready for Big newon kickoff Alabama and Texas,
if a deal is not done, it is over. There's
no deal getting done this year. Can you believe it?
How about it? That's that's called putting in the dirt.
It's hard to believe it, you know. I think the

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one concern for Lamar is if he goes into the
season and he has an injury, like let's say, let's
just play out the hypothetical of the Dak Prescott year.
I think his value is diminished that much more than
Dak only because Dak at that point one was on
a record setting pace in the NFL in regards to

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passing yards per game, but he'd already demonstrated kind of
that that ability. Lamar has been an m v P
before in the league, and statistically that year looked good
throwing the football, but he really hasn't been able to
replicate that, either statistically or just how it's looked like
at times their past game they struggled. And some people
point to Greg Roman, some people point to the wide receiver,

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some people point to him. Whatever the case is, that
was not a concern with Dac And that's one of
the reasons why the Dallas Cowboys finally ponied up to it,
because they had to at that point, they had exhausted
the the you know, the rest of his his contract
and and and that was the position they're in with
Balti Moore. I just I'm not saying they're gonna move
on from him, but maybe they would go the route

(06:28):
of playing out the franchise tags instead of agreeing to
this some long term deal that they don't feel comfortable with.
If he's looking for the Shawan, you know, Watson deal,
I don't think that's gonna be out there for him
unless he they go out, he you know, balls out
wins the Super Bowl, super Bowl m v P. This
is like a Joe Flacco like uh remake, right, where

(06:49):
Flacco was in a similar position and he's like, all right,
I'll prove it to you and does that. If that's
the case, yeah, he'll get paid, he'll get that contract.
But unless that happens, I don't know. I I worry
for him, Like I hope he gets the deal done.
I hope they figure it out. I don't care if
it's by Friday or at some point during the season.
Just because he is so dynamic and he does run
more than most events, you get injured. I think we

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saw that a little bit last year. That would be
pretty funny if a second Baltimore Ravens quarterback bet on
himself and ended up getting paid, ended up striking it rich.
I almost wish I would pick that story. I think.
I mean, LaVar, you picked that to basically be the case, right, Yeah, yeah,
Like I would love for that to play out for him,
and just the storyline of like another Baltimore Ravens quarterback
does it again. I think if he's having a great

(07:33):
year by midde season, they do it. I don't even
think it has to be a super Bowl. You just
heard him. The deadline is Friday, Okay, Like he just
that's it. I mean the deadlines Friday. With all with
all that being said, I think that if he's doing really,
really well, I think they come to him and they
get it done, like by mid season. They could wake

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me up in the middle of the night with vomit
all over my chest, on the toilet, stomach flu all
like you. They could wake me up at any point
if they knocked at my door, I don't care what
is and tell me, hey, by the way, we're gonna
meet your contract demands. Even though it's past your deadline.
I'm signing the deal, like the whole this whole Friday,

(08:16):
it's over. He's not signing that he deals. He said,
he's done negotiating. You gotta pay attention. If you hadn't
learned anything from Aaron Rodgers, you should at least learn
to pay attention to print what people are good point.
That is true. He did. He did say it's the end.
I'm not signing anything. We're not doing any contracts. He said,

(08:39):
I'm done negotiating. I wonder how far apart they actually are,
because if it came down to it, if you just
looked at it like this, all right, he's a quarterback
that likes to use his legs. He saw his own
mortality a little bit last year and being injured and
not being able to come back and play. He's won
an m v P, there's now an extra game added

(09:00):
onto the regular season. He's he's you know, further along
in his career now. I would assume you would look
at this and go it probably makes the most sense
to try and get something done now, like we've talked about,
because of the risk and everything that was just named off,
So how far apart could they be dollar wise that

(09:21):
he just wouldn't even I don't want to say cave,
but wouldn't want to meet them in the middle. I Mean,
that's what I've always wondered, Like how far apart? Because
if he's looking for two hundred thirty five million guaranteed,
I wonder what the Ravens are countering with and and
why this has not gotten any sort of momentum towards
getting done. Just gonna be closer to Russell's deal, right,

(09:42):
I mean as far as the maybe not extension, but
guarantees at signing or guarantees that he's going to get
in the first three years. Yeah, it just feels like
I'm surprised that Kyler Murray's deal got done. I'm surprised
that all these other transactions have happened, and we're still
sitting here talking about is Lamar Jackson going to get

(10:02):
a deal. But what what is the franchise number now,
like like next year, like if they decided are we're
just gonna tag him after the year, we're looking at
what it's over forty correct, I'm I'm most positible. It's over.
It's over forty million a year. The franchise um it
would have jumped, It will jump up obviously with with
some of the more recent deals that are signed for

(10:24):
next year. I don't think he gets over forty until
the second year in the day, and then it jumped.
Obviously year three would be as well. But the numbers
I saw were if they were to play out the
franchise tag the next three years, he would be somewhere
in the ballpark of a million over those three years.
So you could technically make the case that it would

(10:44):
average that that number you're talking about. I mean, I
don't know, man, they be off by a by a
wide margin. For him not to look at this and say,
injury wise risk all that factored in, and I know
he was saying that he doesn't think about injuries that's
not that it's not part of the conversation, But isn't
anybody close to him saying, hey man, your style of play,

(11:05):
this makes a lot of sense to try and get
a deal done now, or even a shorter term just
say this. Sometimes I feel like that aspect of it
is overstated. It's football, and he's a running quarterback, like
it's a part of his game. Case close. If I'm
in his circle and I'm talking to him, I'm saying,

(11:27):
get the guaranteed money over X amount of years, Like,
get your guaranteed money, get your weight up. If they're
willing to go to a certain amount. That is maybe
not is as much as as uh as much guaranteed
as Deshaun Watson, but is, as it was mentioned earlier,

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comparable to someone like Russell Wilson. Take that cash, man,
take that cash and and and listen, there's two ways
I look at it. I said, if if, if you
can get a tremendous amount of your contract guaranteed, no
matter what, if they cut you, if you get hurt,

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no matter what, you're gonna get that money. I'm saying,
if it gets to a certain number, there's a threshold
you take that deal. But then there's the other side
of it where if you know people, people don't realize
how long, Like if you've played football since you were
it's it's a little different than other other deals because

(12:31):
you know and and regular regular form. You go to school, right,
You go to school, you get educated, and you figure
out what you want to do in life. You go
go to college or whatever. You you start specializing in it,
you get a degree, and then you get a job
to do it. And in sports like football, you could
be playing the same game from eight years old, you know,

(12:54):
nine years old, six years old, and you don't make
any money until you're like twenty in two, twenty three
sometimes right, So for the amount of time that you're
playing and not making any money, if you want to
bet on yourself for one season, I'm not gonna I'm

(13:14):
not going to eat your lunch over that either. If
you're going to bet on yourself and say, look, I
believe in me and I want to see where I'm
at at the end of this season, it could backfire
because of the franchise tag. But if I'm in his
inner circle, I say go ahead and bet on yourself.
You you played all these years for no money anyway,
played about ten years or so, you know, twelve years,

(13:38):
thirteen years with no money anyway, So what's what's one
more season? You know, that could be the thought process too.
A lot of money though it's a lot of money.
There's a lot of money, a lot of guaranteed money
that that could be going bye bye if you know,
we we we tweak Anye or something like that. It's
just I don't know, man, but but hey, you know,

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he he would know his body better anybody else. I'm
assuming so he I guess he's he's gonna play this
thing out. But man, if he does go on a
run and they win a Super Bowl, how many more
millions have just been tacked on to whatever he's asking for.
I mean, he's got like there there's I wonder how
close he could get to Deshaun Watson's guaranteed value. I mean,

(14:23):
I'm gonna tell you this, Lamar Jackson, you talk about guts,
I mean, he bet on himself. He gets into the season,
and yet here we are, he's raising the Lombardi Trophy
and I don't know. I mean, not only is he
raising the Lombardi Trophy, he's gonna be backing up the
Brinks truck and just grabbing whatever duffle bags he wants
out of there. I we got. If only he had

(14:44):
a little bit left over, he could bet on some DraftKings.
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the award winning b Q News by Did they ask
about the b Q News on Big Neon Kickoff? Did
they talk about some of the content that we I mean,
we are so irrelevant in his other life? Oh? Come,
I don't say that. That's not true. Hey, are there
gonna be people behind you what you guys are doing
on the desk for Big Newon Kickoff this Saturday. Yeah,

(16:44):
we'll actually the outside of the stadium for the first
hour and then inside the stadium for the second, So
there will be plenty of people around us. Maybe some
people holding up some signs. It's say I'm a home
girl to Danny, what about me? Pac Man? Would be
cool if there was. I don't know that We've we've
got the same audience. That's listening comes man, I mean,

(17:09):
look at Jonas. I'm not disagreeing with you. It's just again,
I think we have a different audience that comes out
to that we're in Austin, but we were on we
have an affiliate in Austin there. Okay, well here, let
me just make the request for those of you coming
to the Texas Alabama game and come by the Big
Newton kickoff set, please make sure to bring a sign
that that's that says any of the quotes or hashtags

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or whatever the hell we say on the ship that yeah.
I will make sure to recognize all of those signs,
maybe even on live TV as well. If somebody puts
the man, I will be weak all the way week
I will bring them on stage and get a photo

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with their entire crew. They have a son who says,
look at me a pac man. I promise you ile girls.
All right, it is U, two pros and a cup
of Joe here on FSR and right now we turn
it over to Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the
mm QB. You can get him on Twitter at Albert
Brewery's our NFL insider, our buddy. Every Thursday hangs out

(18:14):
with us here, Albert, what's happening? Happy opening night of football? Yeah,
and they thoughts and prayers are Brady for having to
wear a suit in Austin, Texas this weekend outside. That
sounds like no fun to me. Yeah, it's gonna be awful.
I actually I've never been a fan of these suits
shorts that have now become a popular fashion trend. I've

(18:35):
been lobbying our wardrobe department to let us wear suit
shorts so everything looks like normal besides Japan's which looked
like shorts. I don't think it's gonna work stand ups
where people would be able to tell anyway or no.
Oh yeah, no, dude, the whole first hour we're outside
like doing stand ups and all that. We're gonna be
right right right right, yea at the end of the
show too, right like right before kickup, you guys are

(18:57):
start of standing on the field, right, so we're down
there field. I don't know, only know if we'll be
standing or not. That all kind of pends on it
what week to week and how much room we've got.
So I'll tell you what things may not have gone
your way last weekend, But I think better when Brian
Kelly did. That is true, but you had to you
had to be soiling yourself at halftime, given how that
game and god was the first half. I mean as

(19:18):
a bucket in all seriousness, like ay, our team needed
to win a game like that after the way last
year went, like be like, I was really impressed with
Marcus Freeman's composture through the game, Like I sort of
watched him on the sideline a little bit being in
the stands. You can do that. Um, I think you
guys might have something there, Brady, Well, yeah, I mean again,

(19:41):
we held Ryan Day to his lowest output of his
entire tenure at Ohio State. And then on top of that, like,
did you forget we're leading you all at half? I
mean it took a couple of plays and we were
down a few players. That kind of impacted that game,
But I didn't. We also didn't have our best player.
He got here. Here's the thing is, you don't. My
theory is on that he got knocked out. Let's be

(20:02):
real about this. Brandon Joseph removed his soul from Jackson
Smith and Jigma's body, and no one wants to No
one wants to acknowledge that because spirit from dude. I mean,
there was no handstring while he was going down. It
was the hit from Brandon Joseph that took him out
of the game. Look at halftime, you guys regrouped. You
guys realized, oh we're in a street fight right now.

(20:24):
We actually have to fight back at some point and
how to stay did Look give him all the credit. See,
this is why people listening on thirteen under the Zone
in Austin need to show up and see Brady Quinn
in person, in the flesh, because this is what you're
gonna get, all right, hard hitting football talk from Brady Quinn.
He's taking it out on you, Albert. Yeah, well well

(20:44):
well hey, I mean I I'm happy for Brady and
all the moral victories. Yeah. I just hope you guys
could be Michigan because they look really good and last
time I checked, I mean, man, I mean they and
an Harbor last year, Here we go, here we go.
I'm just saying, I mean it has been removed, absolutely

(21:06):
mopped the floor. Yes, I mean I think we got
something for them too. I mean I think that winning
that game that way will serve us well and three
months it's all says I think winning. That didn't look
the same man. He looked a little after that first sack,
he got hit around a little bit, looked like he
was a little, i don't know, a little off Albert.
I wanted to ask you because obviously, with Josh Allen

(21:28):
and the Bills, they're the favorites to win the Super
Bowl and they're in l A taking on the Rams tonight.
You actually, and this just came out within the last
half hour or so, but you did an article for
Sports Illustrated talking about the moment that Josh Allen sort
of took over that it was sort was it sort
of the back to back losses they had lost in
New England and then they struggled against Tampa Bay. So

(21:51):
what happened? Why was that the sort of the line
in the sand from where Josh Allen went from fun
loving guy to this is his team and his franchise
is moving forward. I think one of the main reasons why.
And it's really interesting because you know a lot of
those guys um you know, who built the Bills into
what they are came from Carolina, right, and they sort

(22:11):
of compared it to the process that Luke Kickley went
through maybe becoming the leader of the Panthers and and
really kind of the the alpha on on the team
that went to the Super Bowl in two thousand and fifteen.
And you know they had said that like with Luke
and Carolina, it was really a process of him becoming
the leader because he didn't want to force it and

(22:32):
he didn't want just because he was the middle linebacker
two like, like, he didn't want it to happen in
any way that was unnatural or didn't happen organically. And
so as much as like the Thomas Davis's and Charles
Johnson would push him and say this is your team now,
like you go ahead, you take it, Luke didn't want
it to happen in an unnatural way like he wanted

(22:54):
to happen organically. And all those guys you know who
were in Carolina that are now in Buffalo. So there
was the same sort of thing with Josh Allen where
just because he was the quarterback, just because he had
the contract, um just because he'd been to the playoffs
a couple of times early in his career, he didn't
want to force himself on the veteran players in that team. Um,

(23:15):
you know, the Micah hides the Jordan Employers, the you
know earlier in his time, the Lorenzo Alexander's Kyle Williams.
He wanted to happen organically, and you know that moment
happened for him. Last year, they lose that game where
I mean that's insane, wins game on Monday night against
New England, didn't look very good and um, you know,

(23:36):
then they come back against Tampa and they fall behind
three and Josh had his moment at half time of
that game where it wasn't just leading by example, it
was getting after guys in the locker room. And then
you know their first touchdown, you know he has a
zone read keeper where he runs it right through the
gut of the Buck's defense and like just throws the
ball as hard as he can into the wall and um,

(23:59):
you know, just king to the guys in that locker
room and that team. It was like it was almost
like the light came on. But for Josh, it was
something that happened very natural and happened the way he
wanted to happen. And you know, they did lose that
game to Tampa, but they came all the way back
and forced over time. Um, and you know you you
look what happened the next two months. They didn't lose
again until that epic shootout in Kansas City, and so, um,

(24:23):
you know it's amazing to me, like you know, like
we look at where where Josh Allen was three years ago,
and you know, you you look at how far he's
come and now you see there may even be another
level in him. Um, It's it's pretty cool to watch.
And you know, I know the guys in that locker
room have always loved him, you know, because he comes
off as such a normal guy and um, doesn't put
himself above others or anything like that. But to see

(24:46):
it like sort of that that the leadership piece of
it come to life in a real organic way, it
was a really cool thing and kind of drove that
team down the stretch last year. Hey, Albert, I want
to ask you just about you know, some of the
more interesting storylines going into we one. Um, we had
a lot of quarterbacks playing their former teams. Lots being
made of you know, Baker Mayfield the T shirts and

(25:07):
taken on Cleveland, who knows what to think in regards
to what's been said so far from him and all that,
and then Joe Flacco had taken on the Baltimore Ravens.
I guess maybe I'll start there, only because we were
a little bit surprised that Zach Wilson injury, and he
was like, all right, he might start a week one,
like a few days ago. Now it's always out still
week four, like, like, what do you make of all that?

(25:29):
I'd be at least a little concerned, Brady. Um, you know,
I but the way his knee buckled there, And I'm
not a doctor, so I want to preface everything I'm
saying here with that, don't worry, We're not gonna hold
you to it. And everyone else's reckless with these sorts
of regentations. I would just think, like I mean, I
think I think I was thinking when I saw that happen,

(25:49):
when everybody was thinking, was you see that little jiggle
in the knee is non contact and you immediately think
a c L right, And um, you know, I just
talked to a couple of people who know about this
up and they were, you know, they were saying, well,
you know that that could be some level of instability
in the knee, and that's something you've got to kind
of keep your eye on. And then you hear it's
a moniscus, and I mean, yeah, it was a trim

(26:11):
in centerver repair and a repair where to take him out,
taking him out for the season. Of my understanding with
that is that sometimes can be a band aid, and
so you know, you do wonder, like if they're giving
him an extra three weeks, is this like he's gonna
have to be managed through the whole year because the knee,
while you know it's not a season ending thing, is

(26:32):
something that he doesn't have to deal with. And then
you look at his style of play, and I think
it's fair to ask those questions, you know, like is
he gonna have to adjust his style of play a
little bit um because of the knee. And so yeah,
it definitely got my attention that you know, Robert Salo
was standing two days ago that it's gonna be week
one and now all of a sudden, it's week four,
or it could be week one and now all of
a sudden, this week four. And you know, I put

(26:54):
that together with some of the things that i've you know,
just talk to people who know about this stuff about
when it comes to that particular or injury. And I'm
not saying it's time to like, you know, push the
panic button or anything like that. But I think it's
certainly marit's watching when he comes back, both you know,
how he looks moving around and also how they're managing it.
Maybe now when you have conversation like this about the

(27:16):
health of a quarterback, it takes me into the Baltimore
area and the contract negotiations with uh Lamar Jackson tomorrow
being apparently Lamar Jackson self imposed deadline. How far how
far apart is it being like, if you have any

(27:38):
information on that, how how far apart are they on this?
And is it is it? Um? You know, are they
Are they on the same page in terms of we're
not we we haven't gotten a deal done, but there's
no hard feelings or anything like that that are are involved.
I mean, I think that this might be coming down

(27:58):
to principle right now, to be honest with you, UM,
And I mean I can tell you guys flat out,
like I don't think the raw money is the problem.
You know, after Josh Allen got his deal at forty
three million per um last year and this is I
mean whatever nine months ago now that this offer was made. Um,
the Ravens showed a willingness to go to the number, um,
that that Josh Allen got. So I don't think Bob

(28:20):
dollars or the issue, um, you know. And then you know,
I think you look at kind of the way that
you know, the whole issue of guaranteed contracts with quarterbacks
has gone over the last five years. Kirk Cousins gets
his deal, but then Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers and
Jared Goff and Carson wentz to conventional quarterback deals, and
teams could point at the Cousins deal and say that's
the outlier. Um. Same thing. Now, you know what the

(28:43):
Shaun Watson deal that that was done in March, Well,
you know Carr and Murray and Wilson have done deal
since then. Those are all more conventional quarterback deals. So
it's easy for team at the point at the Watson
deal and say that's also an outlier. Um. These contract
negotiations are all about a players willingness to say no.
I really smart executives tell me a few years ago

(29:03):
when he was in the quarterback negotiation, my job isn't
to pay that guy what he's worth. My job is
to find the number that he can't say no to.
And I think for the Ravens that's sort of been
the issue is these other teams have been able to
find this number that all right, like this player is
not willing to say no to this number. Um, the
Ravens haven't been able to find that number, now, you know?

(29:24):
Is that about the full guarantee? Like I think it
absolutely could be, you know. And then you look at
Lamar's style of playing right and the way he's been
used his first four years and the pounding he's taking,
and the fact that he was off the field for
the first time because of injury for an extended period
of time last year, and I do think that complicates things.
And I think, you know, Lamar has always looked at

(29:44):
things a little bit differently, So it wouldn't surprise me.
And I'm not climbing in a set. It wouldn't surprise
me if where some players would say after they get
hurt like that, I just need to cash out and
take what I can take, it wouldn't surprise me if
Lamar looks at that and says, well, if you know
I'm gonna give you guys control and I'm going to
take physical risks, then you need to take financial risks.

(30:06):
So if I'm gonna take the physical risk of playing
for you for the next five years, well then you
need to be responsible for all of that financial risk
on the back end. So it's a fascinating contract negotiation
from that standpoint, because I don't think it has anything
to do with the Ravens believing or not believing in
Lamar Jackson. I think, as much as anything else, that
comes down to the principle of, you know, genuaranteed contracts

(30:27):
and what they mean. In the NFL, Albert, before we
let you go, we got about thirty seconds. You got
a Super Bowl pick for us, a f C, NFC
and who takes Yeah, I really stuck my neck out
there and picked the Bills over the pack. Yeah, I'll
be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. Guys,
Like they sent me the predictions grid on like the
Google sheets or whatever it is. I think it took

(30:49):
me about forty five seconds to fire through that thing.
I can't even remember have my other predictions, but I
do remember that I picked the Bills over the package.
I mean, the only five times in the history of
the NFL is a Super Bowl favorite got on to
actually win the super Bowl. So I mean, the odds
are stacked against you. It's kind of if you look
at like all like people like me, his predictions, you know,

(31:12):
all the different like that the pregame shows predictions, all
that different stuff. It's like, I mean, I don't know,
I can't remember the last time I saw it where
a team that hasn't won a Super Bowl like was
so overwhelmingly picked to win the Super Bowl. So it's
the pretty unique thing. And hey, I know what tonight
going in, they're gonna be really really good. Like I

(31:33):
told you, guys, like I think a couple of weeks
ago they had that look, you know what I mean,
Like the oh seven Patriots, the Seahawks before they got
they had that look and training camp when I was there.
This is gonna be a different deal for them though.
I mean they're no longer the team climbing the mountain,
you know. Now they've got a target on their back,
and it's gonna be interesting to see how old these
guys handle it. Get him on Twitter at Albert Brier,
senior NFL reporter at the mm QB and a great

(31:57):
article up, but you can go to his Twitter account
of your Bills fan check it out the story of
Josh Allen how he became a leader with that team. However,
we appreciate it, man, We'll do it again next week. Thanks.
It's uh, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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(33:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, uh huh man, they were playing this
in the Linebacker Lounge back in the day when this
is what they were playing post games to walk in
Tony Man. You know, we never went there. I know.
It's the only one I can remember from South Bend.

(33:26):
I mean in Rudy, I mean, you could have said Corby's.
I researched every sports bar in South Bend and the
only one that I can remember is Linebacker Lounge. So
I apologize to our our listeners in South Bend if
you uh, one of the know it's called Linebacker Lounge.
It's it's the coaches bar, right, Yeah, Well during during

(33:49):
Coach Wise's time there, Yeah, he said, look, he goes,
our coaches need to have a bar to go to.
That one's closest to the office and everything. He said,
you know there, that's their bar, So don't go there,
Like you don't want to put us in a conflict
where you have guys who are legally able to drink
that are players drinking with coaches. And so his thing
was that's their bar. Don't go there, and they're not

(34:11):
gonna go to any other bar. So if they see you,
if they have to be at a bar that's not
the Linebacker lounge and they see you, they're gonna walk out.
That's their directive. So just don't go in the linebacker lounge.
So it was not a place that we frequented about it.
What was the name of your frequent bar and Penn
State labar? Would you have frequent bar when I was there?

(34:34):
Probably Chaps, Probably Chaps Champs Champs, not like a Hammerland
or anything like that. We had a place that that
the name on the outside was called the Library, but
no one called it that. Everyone called it Finnigans, which
I I to this to this day, I still can't

(34:55):
figure out we went. We had a lot of bars.
There's a lot of parts they too tends there you
go Long Island, like, that's the Long Island Mecca. Yeah, CJ's.
That was the football bar, although that's been done over
since then. I think I had like a building collapse
on at some point. The g man that that was
a good one. You don't need that. You don't need

(35:19):
those in college, buddy. That's that's the thing is, you
don't You don't need that those sort of extracurricular activities
while you're in college. Those are called toga parties. That
comes to you, buddy, all right, it is two pros
and a cup of Joe. If you missed any of
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(35:40):
we will be back on the air to recap Night
one of the NFL six am Eastern time, three o'clock
Pacific tomorrow on a football Friday. But right now it's
time for this. Let's go to the news DEAs. What God,
here's Brady Quinn. Yeah. I can't believe I mean to
ask this question, but do you guys? I was you
know who Jerry Seinfeld is. I know you guys know

(36:02):
who Jerry Seinfeld is. Yeah, he's that guy that's not funny.
Oh wow, Well that's slap in the face considering he
had one of the greatest sitcoms of all time in Seinfeld,
I digress. I'm not gonna get into all that. Um.
He is a huge Mets fan, and in fact, he
kind of went off on a ran about the Mets
celebrating in season with the Timmy trumpet at his live

(36:25):
performance the other week at City Field of Narco, which,
for any when he watched, that was awesome, Like that
was super Yeah, in Jerry Seinfeld's defense, he said, celebrating
in season we haven't won anything. It's bad mojo, And
he does point out that this is the samest when
the Baja Men showed up to play who let the

(36:47):
Dogs out? In the two thousand World Series? The series
ended right there? What happened? And he's not wrong. So
it is kind of interesting that Jerry Seinfeld has to be, uh,
the the voice of reason in all this. I'm just
started out. I think that the Mets had won a
ten and a half game lead, and now it's a
half game. Are they tired? I think? My god, man,

(37:10):
so you had a ten fold boy. Well look it's uh,
you know, at least, you know, at least they don't
have to worry about the Yankees going to the play. Yeah,
it's that's too bad. Du Gram finally back. Yeah it's
a bummer. Well yeah, hey, sorry, Jerry, you know you
can go back to making bad comedies. And how about
a story outside of the sports round. We've had a

(37:31):
North Carolina teacher, teacher who was busted for having relations
with a student. She's arrested again. While on house arrest,
she invited the same student over nine times, and the
kids only fifteen years old. She's thirty six. Uh, I mean,

(37:51):
I don't know what going to pick him up. She's
on house arrest like he was. She was missing and
he was coming over her play on his power wheels
over there, maybe a scooter or something on his bicycle,
imagine that. Like he's writing his his beach cuiser over like,

(38:12):
where are you going? I picked up some trees ye.
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