September 21, 2022 • 39 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Nick Chubb admits to losing the game for the Browns but it could ultimately cost them a playoff spot. Does Mike Evans deserve a suspension for his scrap with Marshon Lattimore? And Aaron Judge hits his 60th Home Run on In Case You Missed It.
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is it cold outside? Is it cold in there? No, no, no,
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it's real out here, though. It's it's gotten hotter in
the studio, feels like. But you know, we are working
through it. We are. We are, you know, and enduring
the pain and the swaltering heat to bring you a
quality sports talk radio show on a Wednesday right. You know,
that's what we do. Lee was crop dusting yesterday and
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we did not put him on blast. I just figured
out start off the show about let him know that
it was interesting because Lee did it, and then Berto
told him to air it out and he opened up
the door to the studio. How are you going to
air it out into our clean air breathing space? And
that happened yesterday. Yeah, it's just filthy. I just thought
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I'd bring that to the table. Today, because I still
am yet thinking to myself, why would you air out
your funky studio area and tires? I don't know. Well,
if you think about it, do you ever really throw
away like you ever really like? Where does your trash go?
I mean never, energy never dies, right, so when that
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energy leaves your body and you've crop dusted, I mean
it doesn't die, it just finds a place to go to,
you know, waits. You're saying that that fart lives on forever. Yes, yeah,
it will. That energy it will actually dissipate, unfortunately. Yeah,
but I thought it was kind of cool to say
energy never dies. The energy from Lee's Bungholi Ol um
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will live forever. Yeah, and at least pulling double duty.
He was with Ben Maller earlier. So, you know, who
knows how this is going to go. The well, they
do have the back door propped open permanently now, it
would appear. So yeah, they've taken a proper precautionary measures.
Good job, guys. And who knows, a bat might play
in here, might get a you know, flies, you know
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what's come in the last time. You know, a bat
flu in here. Um Lee assassinated it. Um So if
it was Count Dracula, it was, you know, he's out
of here and now and then there was a big
old roach that was up in here to one time
and and Jonas totally destroyed it. What are you talking about? You, you,
you're you trapped in a trash can. It was walking.
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It was walking by with it's it's Roach version of
the deshaun Watson town comfortable, by the way? Yeah, it
was comfortable. Yeah, that thing looked like it had been
it just came from taking a shower for somewhere around
here to you know, that brushed his teeth. You know,
it was heading towards, you know, the bid get some sleep,
you know, hang out with his you know, with his
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buddies and his friends and the family. And you know,
Joana has disrupted. It never saw a family ever again.
Let me tell you, Lavar literally buried the thing alive,
all right, and put it in a trash can and
then walked away and then just said, well, he'll figure
it out. I mean that's at the top of that bed.
Suffocated him. Yeah, that's that's a slow death. I feel
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bad for him. That roach probably walked around its entire
life going I wonder how it's gonna end, not realizing
it was a hefty bag that was going to be
the last thing he saw, and a college football hall
of Famer putting him to a end. Look at you. Yeah, well,
somebody had to do it. At least, at least I
didn't smash him or her. That is true. Plus, it
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could always be worse. Going to do this, by the way, like,
you know what, you're not nice. You're not a very
nice person. Yeah, all right, towards that. Um, I mean
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that's going over there. What does that even mean? It's
like a Mexican bread roll. Okay, yeah, some other meanings too,
you know. Yeah, we'll just keep it there. Um, they're
actually really good, boy, the way thinking about it. Yeah, yeah,
they're fresh. The garbage that they've seen the DEL TAGO commercials.
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Not that. No, no, no, no, I've I've had I've
had them from from a home. You know. You know,
you know I get down like that. You know what
I mean. I'm an as tech. You know, you did
as tech. Yeah, yeah, UM, technician. Well, speaking of a technician, technician, Um,
how about the u? Two Z's on that? How about
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the UH? HOW ABOUT THE SITUATION IN CLEVELAND? The browns,
the story that keeps on giving. In the national football league,
things go from bad doors. Apparently there's a video making
the rounds Jimmy Haslum, the owner of the Browns, getting
tagged with a they said a bottle. Did they even
sell bottles anymore? It was an aluminum can that hit
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Jimmy Haslum. He could have been a plastic bottle. Yeah, okay,
I mean, listen, I thought you asked a very important
question on the pre show notes that we were throwing around.
All right, do you think the fan knew that it
was Haslum? Right? Well, which is from my deep, deep
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dive into this, it sounded like the man who was
arrested was was pretty intoxicated from all accounts, and I
don't know that he was specifically throwing it at him
or maybe out of frustration. Who knows, because they're saying
it hit has them. If you watch the video, it
maybe grazes like his lower body or leg. It doesn't
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like really like strike him in the head or anything
like that. Um, but I don't know. From from going
back and watching it over and over, I feel like
if it was someone who was really that close, they
probably could have hit him square if they wanted to.
So I think they. I think this person was probably
pretty drunk and just really, really frustrated. I hope there's
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more of a sense of understanding, given the fact that, again,
and I only throw out this stat because it's a
Cleveland Brown Stat, you know, only when you are attached
to the Cleveland browns could you have a stat where
the last two thousand two teams that were up thirteen
points with under two minutes to go in a game one.
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In that scenario, the browns didn't and the last team
to do it before the browns this past weekend was
the browns Brown in week nine. So it's it's like
only browns fans can relate to that because what, two
years ago they went through the same thing. Like it's
only the browns that can relate to as bad as
the jets have been, they of the team that actually
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wanted that scenario. You think about that. So hopefully Jimmy
has them could be understanding of the pain, the suffering,
everything that browns fans have been through, having to watch
a team that came back as an expansion team back
in do the same damn thing two years later. Well,
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do you want to hear Nick Chubb, who got a
lot of the blame for scoring. Instead of taking a
knee and just trying to kill the game out at
that point, he accepted some responsibility after the game for
the loss in Cleveland. That probably sent the score right there. Honestly,
looking back at it, um it cost us a game.
A lot of things went wrong, not not just one thing,
but collectively as a unit, as a team. We could
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all do things different, but I mean it's only a
problem because we didn't win. You know, so I probably
should win down. Okay, it should. Is He also going
to get the blame for the on side? KIG? But listen,
he's a warrior for the team and when you're a
warrior and you're a leader in the commune entity and
you're you're a beloved person, they love you more after
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something like that. Now somebody else can't get away with that,
but Nick Chubb can get away with saying I probably
should have went down. And you know what everybody's like, yeah,
you probably should have, but but nick, Hey, hey, hey,
you're my guy, you're my Gutto Nick, he's not lying.
That's what I miss about a locker room. But you're
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my gutto. That's, by the way, Lavar's painting out a
good locker room. Because if it's a bad locker room, Lavar,
what does this sound like? You mother, you know what
you cost him. ME. You got you. You know I
need these bonuses. What you're doing, man? Don't be giving
the games away like that ass on the ground. She
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was thinking about your Nick Chubb. You're better than that.
What are you doing? I'm getting out of here, man.
We'll go get lunch. Disgusted it with you, bet you,
bet you, that squat machine ain't and ain't help you
with getting your ass down on the ground and not
going in the end zone. So these Bama's Gona beat
us like. That's a bad locker room. I just and then,
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and then, and then it turns into a fight and
and it's not a fight with Nick Chubb. It's somebody
who's Nick Chubb's My guy. It's my guy. He owned it.
It's my guy. And then that guy that's sitting there
talking trash to Nick Chubb. THEM TWO gonna go. They'RE
gonna go to blows. In a bad locker room. There's
gonna be a fight. I just don't talk to nick.
That the the idea, though, that it's his fault when
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Corey Davis has got twenty five yards on the next
closest defender and then the on site kick. Regardless of
WHO's to blame, I I can't help but think you're
gonna look back on this because every fan base knows that.
If you're a fan of a football team, you know
that there are these one or two games early in
the season that your team ends up losing and when
they don't make the playoffs or they miss it by
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a game, you look back on and go, I knew
that game was gonna come back to honus. Every game
they give away when Deshaun Watson is out, I just
think becomes that my bigger because look, Baltimore just gave
up a game. They're kind of dealing with, you know,
some injuries there. Cincinnati looks like a shell of themselves
two games into the season. Pittsburgh's got issues on offense.
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Like I think there was a real opportunity here for
Cleveland to try and stack up as many wins as
you can before De Sean comes back and then you
just gun it towards the end of the regular season
and try and make it happen, and you gave away
a game, literally gave away a game, and I just
can't help but think it's gonna come back and bite
him in the ass. The the Cleveland browns there. You're
Cleveland Browns, might add, Brady your I'm not disagreeing with that,
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I mean it's your point. That's one where just you're
in two minutes of thirteen, Lavar, like we're standing on
the sidelines. We're going, all right, bro just go and
finish this thing litten. Let's get this man like you're
a fan. You might have left. Seriously, you would have
watched Nick Chubb running the end zone and let the
auto beat traffic. Man Up the traffic. I'M gonna beat
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traffic to get home. Some of the players do that.
If a player, the players, I'm gonna players beat the
traffic out like that's what you're that's what it's going
through your mind, and and that's how you end up losing.
Yet like that, that was one that you clearly even
the players in the field took it for granted, because
Joe Flacco just went ahead and drop some some dimes,
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some Tuddies, you know they're, and just close that thing out.
I mean maybe Kad Yorke did to taking that little
too nonchalant. Yeah, can I assue just a question before
we get to break? DO FANS IN CLEVELAND? DEFANS in
Cleveland like Jimmy Has Um? What's the opinion of Jimmy?
Back to the original point of all, it is yeah,
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because I just I wonder. It's not. Well, my money,
like that's a question that doesn't matter. Like has it
ever mattered at the fans of an organization like the owner?
It really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if Dallas Cowboys
fans like Jerry Jones. Well, is it on par with
Dan Snyder? I guess it's a better way to ask
the question. Is the feeling there on? Dude? No, I'm
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just saying, like got a yacht somewhere in the Mediterranean.
But but there's been a feeling in Washington. They've wanted
him out for ye to get rid of a little
danny like the Little Danny who knows I get as
he has. He made a parents office yacht. You know,
Europe probably. I mean, no, it's not the same. I
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mean little Danny has had all sorts of cultural issues
within this organization. Everything else, I mean, I don't know
that anyone's looking at Jimmy has them that way. I
think look, he's been a majority owner for a short
time in Cleveland. He early on had a bunch of
turnover year after year and I think people kind of
looked at him and his wife D and didn't probably
take them seriously with the manner in which how they
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handled some of those hirings and firings. And I think
now they feel like they're in a much better place.
But after the whole deshaun Watson hiring, I mean you
guys saw the picture I sent you that lovely Tailgate,
didn't you? I mean it was a lovely tail gate
and Mannekim the way. I don't know that the fans,
honestly at this point, given what they've been what they've
gone through, I don't know that they care about any anything.
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They just want to win, like they just want to
win her they do, like I don't. I don't. I
don't think they care about what Deshaun Watson did. I
don't think they care about Jimmy has them and any
of it. I think they just want to win and
do whatever it takes to win. They've been through so
much bad stuff. It's so hilarious to me when I
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hear different fan bases complain about their team or how
bad they've been. I literally laugh. I'm like, imagine being
a Cleveland Browns Fan, like, think about that before you
really want to say anything about how bad your franchises.
And the Cherry on top the original team left and
there has won two super bowl sins that which is
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that's crazy to think, but that's what I'm saying. That's
what I grew up with. Dude like that. That was
my team, that was my squad and even getting even
getting drafted there. And you see some of the INS
and outs and people are like, why can't they win?
Why can't they turn I'm like, well, you know, you
gotta go and actually be a part of an organization,
see it operated before you go oh, that's why this
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will tell you never try to beat a train after
breaking it can take a mile for a train to
completely stop. So when you come to a rail crossing,
stop because trains can so Mike Evans obviously is appealed
as one game suspension by the NFL for his little
scrap as a little dust up with marshawn lattimore over
the weekend. Tom Brady is on serious X M on
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his podcast and he spoke about the situation. Not a
fan of the suspension of his wide receiver. I love
Mike and the fact that Mike would come out there
to defend me. I mean it means everything in the
world to me as a teammate and a friend. It
Mike knows how I feel about him. So in the end,
emotions are a part of sports. Sometimes they boil over
and they obviously did yesterday and it's an unfortunate circumstance.
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I don't think it deserved any type of suspension. I
think that's ridiculous. Hopefully we can move past it get
to a better place and, you know, in the end
I appreciate Mike having my back. I know he'll learn
from it and he knows that we all have his back.
So there it is. Uh, do we think Mike Evans
is gonna win his appeal? No, yeah, probably not. You
don't think class this did you feel like it deserves
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the one game suspension? Now I feel like he got ejective.
That should have been the punishment. I mean, it could
have gotten out of control and I think that that's
why you gotta Take Take Action, but you can't make
they find him. Uh, I wanna final right, like like
if I was him, because because really, a fine slash
is spend. It's one of the same. Right, YOU'RE gonna
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lose money if you're suspended for that game. Right, you're
not earning that paycheck. So it's it's almost a double whammy.
I don't know how much he's gonna make per game,
but it's almost a double whammy if you suspend him
for that reason, you know, at least find him and
let him play. I just I understand the point you're making, Lavar,
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and I, and I hope people at home understand that's
one of the reasons why they've gotten rid of like
certain illegal plays or even taunting. Taunting has been emphasized
because they feel like it it raises the level of
intensity and it it ticks off other players and it
leads to fights. So that that's one of the biggest reasons.
People think it's like, oh, we want to set a
good example for the kids at home. No, they actually
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think it causes more fights because of taunting. So that
that's one of the reasons why they've gotten rid of
it or at least try to, you know, penalize players
for for taunting other players. This was an instance where
I don't know if he's got a history. Necessarily, I
think those two players do, but it looked like it
was being instigated by Lattimore and then Mike Evans came
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out to defend his quarterback and and there's something to
be said for that. I don't know if there's a
middle ground, like could you suspend a guy half a
game where you're gonna set out the first half of
your elges want to come back in. I mean right,
I think that the differences in the NFL. You've got
to set your roster for that active game day before right,
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you have forty six guys you dress of the fifty three.
So it's it almost puts them out even more of
a disadvantage if you only have access to forty five
of those guys for a half of the game. Now
you might say, come on, how can that become an issue?
I don't know. I mean they're pretty thin right now
a wide receiver. Obviously they just signed cool Beasley, so
they probably all the roster spots they can get in
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regards to healthy wide receivers. Um, I just I would
rather see this go down. You know, give him a five,
but let him play. I just I think it's too
punitive to this team right now. And on top of it, like,
I know it was a bad fight, but that stuff
happens and it wasn't like it was unprovoked. You know,
it was clearly provoked and got to the point where
he didn't he didn't get suspended. By the way, this
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is also the second time Evans has been suspended because
he got he was in a scuffle with a Latti
more ineen and he got suspended for a game. So
maybe the thought is, well, get suspended. I don't believe so.
I need to look at it, but I don't maybe
the man gets caught. Maybe they thought well, you know,
he's a he's a repeat offender, so we got everywhere
we gotta laid down. But like if he got ejected
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from the game, to me that should be the punishment
because in essence, now he's being he's being suspended for
more than one game, like if he if he got ejected.
And you want to find I'm thinking the reason and
behind it is that thing could have got way worse
than what it was like. It was going down the
road of getting bad and and when you have a
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scenario that plays out where you see the way, like
the way it escalated after Mike Evans knocked lattimore down,
I think was probably the key reason, because that incited
what took place after. There wasn't a melee until Mike
Evans got involved, like because because, if you really want
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to break it down, the first contact was, I believe,
Lottimore hitting for net, I believe, or or for net
hitting Lattimore, whichever one it was, I thought it was
a lot of more hitting for not. I thought it
was a lot more hitting for net as well, like
but that was where the initial contact of all of it.
If you wanted to say what incited all of it,
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it what you got to take it a step back
to when it was between Lattimore and for net. I
mean so the idea of it is, and I get
where where Tom Brady is coming from, and that's that's
you know, that's cool to stand in from, stand up
for your your teammates, stuff like that, but you ain't see,
you ain't see Tom Brady get involved. You know, like
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you're standing up for me, and it's like, kind of
like you ain't see Tom Brady again. Let me ask
you this. If it was Evans out there in a
scrap and Tom Brady came in and for a game,
I don't think he does. I think they take a
much harder look at if they're gonna take out the
ticket seller, the ratings get her. I think they're gonna
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take a little longer to make that decision. To think
about that well, I mean just think about just think
about if you saw Tom Brady really like thump, like
this dude really just went upside lattimore's head, like he
just took him down, or he just went upside his
head and then they took Tom Brady down. First of all,
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I would love to see the dude that's gonna take
Tom Brady down, like you really did that? That that's
what you want your legacy to be. You're the guy
that hit that old ass man down to the ground,
like really, you went there. I mean, I'm just saying,
first off, it's the goat for one, like you got
like on my approach over towards him, like he just
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hit my teammate, like what is like? Here's my thought
process in in all of it, right this with me,
and I'm out there on the field. Tom Brady's out
there on the field. Tom Brady just hit my teammate
in the face. You know, as I'm going over there,
I'm sit there and I am going to get as
close to Tom Brady's face as I can and I'm
going to call him every single B word that I
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can call him and every derogatory word that I could
call him. But, you know what, I'm not gonna do what.
I'm not going to touch him. I'm not going to
touch him. Like my face mask might touch his face mask,
my at the top of my helmet may touch his
helmet and we may be eye to eye, locked on
talking trash to one another. But you know the one
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thing that lavar wouldn't do in that moment? It's touched
Tom you know Derek Brooks? Yeah, you know James Thrash? Yes,
all right. Did you play with James Thrash by, one
of the great names in all sports? Those two guys
are the ones that are hearing the appeal and making
the decision. All right, when you want to get him
on an hour, two, hour three, like either one of
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those guys. Oh, you're you're doing that. Yeah, come on,
that was a set up. I've been trying to get
him on my pie. I've been trying to get deep
brooks on my pie. He's that's my hero. Um, I've
been trying to get him on my podcast. Can't catch
up with him. So, yeah, probably can't get him on here.
That's a bummer. I mean, I could call him right now.
It's probably six thirty three where he's at, but he
probably ain't gonna Answer. Yeah, I just you know, but
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who knows? Maybe we'll get a decision and and they'll
be popped a game. I just thought he got ejected,
that would be the punishment. So the fact that he
got suspended in another game and now they're, you know,
kind of kind of depleted a little bit and they
got the pack, I just think that that's it's bad
for business if if they let a guy slide that
caused almost a riot on the field. Yeah, but I mean,
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are we really gonna start playing like the almost cause
you know that. You know they will Q. I mean
you know they will. I just I think that's I
don't know, I think I think Mike Evans has a case.
I'll just put it that way. I think if you're
James Thrash and you're listening to this discussion and given
his perspective on the matter, if you go back and
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watch it and Mike's just saying look, Dude, this guy's
instigating it. He was one stuffball game. It's my quarterback.
It's no different than you know. I think there's a
little bit of leeway and hockey. When a guy goes
up tries to challenge a goalie right or bumps in
the goalie or does something, some guy a Defenseman, for
whoever comes in and defends a goalie, and hockey there's
like an unwritten rule of like yeah, you just don't
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do that, and they kind of allow it to some degree.
I just I think there is there is potentially a
middle ground here where they say, Hey, we'll find you,
we'll let you go play, and I also feel like
when it takes into account, to Jonas's point, the objection
already occurred and you've got a team that's hurt badly,
wide receiver, and so are you? Are you really going
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to penalize the entire team for his actions? Like I
just I think if they would would agree to a
pretty substantial fine. That might get the job done. You
do the NFL, baby. They love that money, they love
they love to seeing those big dollar signs. I would
assume it was how aggressive Lee he reacted to it
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is going to be the reason why he doesn't get
out of it if he had pushed them, you know,
and it was like a push like get out of here,
like I get that, but that it was. It was.
It was super aggressive. I mean it was aggressive. Can
I ask this because we kind of pointed out that
lattimore didn't get nothing happened to Lottimore. Nothing had the
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for net. Are you the type when you go in there,
when you're trying to state your case because there, because
there could be some collateral damageall better come up from
around them trees. Come on, come on down, they got us.
I've just added, like you're like, wait, I get fine.
Yet what started this whole thing is to other guys
like nothing happened to them. I'm snitching on all. Y'All, y'all,
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come on out. Hey, they got us, I'm saying. Like Evans,
I'm like, Hey, look, if I'm going down, everybody's going
down with me. Either Mike just gets to find no
suspension or all of a sudden for net, lattimore, they're
getting there. In that letter too, in the Fedex. I
think that that's more of the case. If you ask
me more of the cases, there are more people culpable
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than just Mike Evans. That would be that would be
my assessment of it. Is because the incitement of it
was was due to lattimore putting his hands on on
for net. So that exchange between for net and Lattimore
should be that should be the premise of of if
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you're going hard but again, I look at it from
the standpoint of you can probably fine lattimore for pushing
the dude or whatever, but it wasn't. It wasn't aggressive intent,
is what I would say. And and the exchange between
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them was was was very quick. When when Mike Evans
inserted himself in, circled around like like sought him out,
like like here's my chance, sought them out, came around
and then and then hit him the way that he
did and the aggressive nature that he did, and the
dude hit the ground the way that he did. And
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then now, like because then now you can say, okay, well,
the dude that took took Mike Mike Evans down. That
was aggressive. That was aggressive. So when Alattimore gets finally
tossed down and everything starts like escalating from there, are
you finding and suspending the guy that threw you know through?
Was It lattimore that threw him down? Who wasn't that
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threw him down because he had already knocked gladimore down,
like he obliterated somebody else. Yeah, somebody else came and
grabbed him until come down. Why isn't he getting suspended? Um?
But well, the NFL has been pretty ruthless about their punishments.
Did you see Jamal Adams? Even after he got injured
and the season was over, it got popped like almost
eleven thousand for an unsports icon that wasn't flagged in
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the game. They're going to donate a ton of money
to the community. They did say that. They put it
out there and you know, we see you two and
they're gonna put a whole lot of money and that
fine money goes into the community. Cool. If somebody, if
somebody robs me at gunpoint, I don't want him to
tell me as they're taking my money. Don't worry, it's
going to a good cause. Can I give my money
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like they're taking? These guys are getting. That money that
they're they're donating got to come from somewhere and it
can't be the owners. Some guys some right offs. Some
guys need some right offs. You do get to write
it off to you get the right fines off. Really, yeah, yeah, Nice.
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I shouldn't know. I shouldn't know. I was. I think
I was the most fine dude until until was it
you huge, uh, Hugh Douglas, hit hardball. This tells you
how old I am. I was the most fine dude
in the league because of how hard I was hitting people,
until Hugh Douglas cracked back on on hardball and he
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totally like his number totally exceeded my number of all
the fines I was in at the time. WAS CHICAGO?
Really he was with the bears the nineties. I mean
two thousand to maybe two thousand one. I think that
that that might have been because he was with Indianapolis.
I've been to two thousand, two thousand one, two thousand
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one I was the most. Where was he at in
two thousand one? Let's it was. I know you, you Douglas,
of the Philadelphia Eagles. Took my record or it took
my my my swag status of most fine player in
the league. The bears drafted Harbin eight six. So yeah,
that would have been well before he was but I
think he was with that. It May it was Baltimore,
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Indianapolis or something. I'm gonna tell you in the second
Al Right, it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here Fox sports trading. It was Jim Miller who
got clip Miller. I knew it was Chicago. Yeah, you
know Auto Chicago quarterbacks look alike to me. I mean
they all look alike. I mean Bert Oh, I mean
even justin fields, they all look alike. Cor gonna tell
(31:28):
me Jim McMahon don't look like like Justin fields. Come on,
I mean, it's so disrespectful. So I had the wrong
but I had the right guy. I had the right team. Yeah,
and you was the guy who did it, because I
remember when they when they issued it out and he
took the lead from me. I was like, what would
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that be nowadays? Sixty? I don't know, I'd be like
a hundred thousand. That's a lot of money for for
a hit. For ahead, like I was getting like ten fifteen.
You know, I hit. I hit Brad Johnson. Um, I
remember just and this is preseason. This is how I
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knew my season where this was going. They were they
were trying to phase guys like me out. I knew
this where where it was going. I hit. I hit
Aaron Stecker in that game. Now, knock Daron Stecker's helmet off.
In that game, I go running after Aaron Stecker's helmet because,
I swear on everything, I thought his head was still
in the helmet. That's how hard I hit him. I
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ran to the helmet. I was like, oh my gosh,
I turned around, I looked and Aaron Stecker's eyes where
big as all get out right. I looked at him.
I was like get up, I don't care about your life.
Get up right. Then maybe like a few plays later,
a few seriously, I mean it was preseason, so it
couldn't have been too much longer. I hit Brad Johnson
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so hard. I mean I hit him hard. It's like
the noisy man. I don't never forget it. And I
broke his rid, like I fractured him and and I
got fined for it. They fined me like ten g's
for hitting him too hard. I couldn't believe it. I was,
I was, I was, I appealed. It did not win.
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Like it's like, how are you gonna find me? It
was a perfectly legal hit. Wasn't no flags thrown, no nothing.
They throw the UH, they throw the through the mail
at me. They didn't throw the throw the laundry at me.
They threw the mail at me. Ten G's, when they come,
when they come. I know quarterbacks don't know nothing about
find schedules, but I think, I think they come on
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like Thursday or Friday or something like that, like you
be dread and getting that Gat Name Mail on like
Thursday or Friday. It's like later in the week you
get the fine because those people handed out fine. Don't
understand how the SERENGETTI works right. You'll probably you'll probably
know tomorrow or Friday if Lattimore, like who else, got
fined in the scenario. I believe, if it's, if it's
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still the same way it was when I was playing
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all right, there comes the jude. So he's got sixty
and I feel like it's like gotten no publicity, like
like nobody's really talking about it. Well, is that because
most people look at it and go after seeing what
Barry Bonds? Did they associate that with the home run
record a single season? Or do you look at Roger
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Merris and say that's the record? Because people, you know,
tend to connect the PDS with and this is the problem.
When you start bringing the P ds into the conversation,
it waters everything down. Everything should be counted, all right,
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Kiss my ass. You guys made money off it and
you glorified it. Plus they were winding the balls a
little tighter, so there's better pop off of that. I mean,
Major League Baseball has control over that. That's one of
those dirty little secrets they don't want to talk about.
I'm with you. I mean I I think if look,
it's on you if you don't want to police at
harder or you don't want to figure that stuff out.
So the records the record. I think that's partially why
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I kind of look at it and go, yeah, it's
not really you know, it's awesome, it's just not the record.
It's also pretty funny that he's in a contract yere.
He's get paid best, best season of his career and
he's he's potentially setting records there or coming close to it.
So good for him. Yeah, I can't get paid there.
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had a meet and greet, signed baseball bat decided to,
you know, just cough it up, guys more. Sorry, he's
an idiot. Hey, okay, hold on. Why is that Ball
gonna be worth that much? Because it was the one
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that tied what Baby Ruth? Yeah, who had sixty? What?
MARRIS had sixty? I mean, I mean, what's the value
in that ball? Could get a couple hundred thousand, right,
could you? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think that's all.
That didn't break the records. Yeah, I think. And that's
what we're talking about. And they estimate the one that
will break will probably break a million. I get why
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that one would but I mean, what's the value in?
Because it ties baby ruth? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's
that's that's really and also goes back to well, but
these are clean. You know, there's going to be that
that going around. These are the cleanest home runs to
come close to the record since since baby until they
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it's real out here, though. It's it's gotten hotter in
the studio, feels like. But you know, we are working
through it. We are. We are, you know, and enduring
the pain and the swaltering heat to bring you a
quality sports talk radio show on a Wednesday right. You know,
that's what we do. Lee was crop dusting yesterday and
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we did not put him on blast. I just figured
out start off the show about let him know that
it was interesting because Lee did it, and then Berto
told him to air it out and he opened up
the door to the studio. How are you going to
air it out into our clean air breathing space? And
that happened yesterday. Yeah, it's just filthy. I just thought
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I'd bring that to the table. Today, because I still
am yet thinking to myself, why would you air out
your funky studio area and tires? I don't know. Well,
if you think about it, do you ever really throw
away like you ever really like? Where does your trash go?
I mean never, energy never dies, right, so when that
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energy leaves your body and you've crop dusted, I mean
it doesn't die, it just finds a place to go to,
you know, waits. You're saying that that fart lives on forever. Yes, yeah,
it will. That energy it will actually dissipate, unfortunately. Yeah,
but I thought it was kind of cool to say
energy never dies. The energy from Lee's Bungholi Ol um
(02:51):
will live forever. Yeah, and at least pulling double duty.
He was with Ben Maller earlier. So, you know, who
knows how this is going to go. The well, they
do have the back door propped open permanently now, it
would appear. So yeah, they've taken a proper precautionary measures.
Good job, guys. And who knows, a bat might play
in here, might get a you know, flies, you know
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what's come in the last time. You know, a bat
flu in here. Um Lee assassinated it. Um So if
it was Count Dracula, it was, you know, he's out
of here and now and then there was a big
old roach that was up in here to one time
and and Jonas totally destroyed it. What are you talking about? You, you,
you're you trapped in a trash can. It was walking.
(03:35):
It was walking by with it's it's Roach version of
the deshaun Watson town comfortable, by the way? Yeah, it
was comfortable. Yeah, that thing looked like it had been
it just came from taking a shower for somewhere around
here to you know, that brushed his teeth. You know,
it was heading towards, you know, the bid get some sleep,
you know, hang out with his you know, with his
(03:55):
buddies and his friends and the family. And you know,
Joana has disrupted. It never saw a family ever again.
Let me tell you, Lavar literally buried the thing alive,
all right, and put it in a trash can and
then walked away and then just said, well, he'll figure
it out. I mean that's at the top of that bed.
Suffocated him. Yeah, that's that's a slow death. I feel
(04:18):
bad for him. That roach probably walked around its entire
life going I wonder how it's gonna end, not realizing
it was a hefty bag that was going to be
the last thing he saw, and a college football hall
of Famer putting him to a end. Look at you. Yeah, well,
somebody had to do it. At least, at least I
didn't smash him or her. That is true. Plus, it
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could always be worse. Going to do this, by the way, like,
you know what, you're not nice. You're not a very
nice person. Yeah, all right, towards that. Um, I mean
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that's going over there. What does that even mean? It's
like a Mexican bread roll. Okay, yeah, some other meanings too,
you know. Yeah, we'll just keep it there. Um, they're
actually really good, boy, the way thinking about it. Yeah, yeah,
they're fresh. The garbage that they've seen the DEL TAGO commercials.
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Not that. No, no, no, no, I've I've had I've
had them from from a home. You know. You know,
you know I get down like that. You know what
I mean. I'm an as tech. You know, you did
as tech. Yeah, yeah, UM, technician. Well, speaking of a technician, technician, Um,
how about the u? Two Z's on that? How about
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the UH? HOW ABOUT THE SITUATION IN CLEVELAND? The browns,
the story that keeps on giving. In the national football league,
things go from bad doors. Apparently there's a video making
the rounds Jimmy Haslum, the owner of the Browns, getting
tagged with a they said a bottle. Did they even
sell bottles anymore? It was an aluminum can that hit
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Jimmy Haslum. He could have been a plastic bottle. Yeah, okay,
I mean, listen, I thought you asked a very important
question on the pre show notes that we were throwing around.
All right, do you think the fan knew that it
was Haslum? Right? Well, which is from my deep, deep
(06:31):
dive into this, it sounded like the man who was
arrested was was pretty intoxicated from all accounts, and I
don't know that he was specifically throwing it at him
or maybe out of frustration. Who knows, because they're saying
it hit has them. If you watch the video, it
maybe grazes like his lower body or leg. It doesn't
(06:52):
like really like strike him in the head or anything
like that. Um, but I don't know. From from going
back and watching it over and over, I feel like
if it was someone who was really that close, they
probably could have hit him square if they wanted to.
So I think they. I think this person was probably
pretty drunk and just really, really frustrated. I hope there's
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more of a sense of understanding, given the fact that, again,
and I only throw out this stat because it's a
Cleveland Brown Stat, you know, only when you are attached
to the Cleveland browns could you have a stat where
the last two thousand two teams that were up thirteen
points with under two minutes to go in a game one.
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In that scenario, the browns didn't and the last team
to do it before the browns this past weekend was
the browns Brown in week nine. So it's it's like
only browns fans can relate to that because what, two
years ago they went through the same thing. Like it's
only the browns that can relate to as bad as
the jets have been, they of the team that actually
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wanted that scenario. You think about that. So hopefully Jimmy
has them could be understanding of the pain, the suffering,
everything that browns fans have been through, having to watch
a team that came back as an expansion team back
in do the same damn thing two years later. Well,
(08:21):
do you want to hear Nick Chubb, who got a
lot of the blame for scoring. Instead of taking a
knee and just trying to kill the game out at
that point, he accepted some responsibility after the game for
the loss in Cleveland. That probably sent the score right there. Honestly,
looking back at it, um it cost us a game.
A lot of things went wrong, not not just one thing,
but collectively as a unit, as a team. We could
(08:42):
all do things different, but I mean it's only a
problem because we didn't win. You know, so I probably
should win down. Okay, it should. Is He also going
to get the blame for the on side? KIG? But listen,
he's a warrior for the team and when you're a
warrior and you're a leader in the commune entity and
you're you're a beloved person, they love you more after
(09:03):
something like that. Now somebody else can't get away with that,
but Nick Chubb can get away with saying I probably
should have went down. And you know what everybody's like, yeah,
you probably should have, but but nick, Hey, hey, hey,
you're my guy, you're my Gutto Nick, he's not lying.
That's what I miss about a locker room. But you're
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my gutto. That's, by the way, Lavar's painting out a
good locker room. Because if it's a bad locker room, Lavar,
what does this sound like? You mother, you know what
you cost him. ME. You got you. You know I
need these bonuses. What you're doing, man? Don't be giving
the games away like that ass on the ground. She
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was thinking about your Nick Chubb. You're better than that.
What are you doing? I'm getting out of here, man.
We'll go get lunch. Disgusted it with you, bet you,
bet you, that squat machine ain't and ain't help you
with getting your ass down on the ground and not
going in the end zone. So these Bama's Gona beat
us like. That's a bad locker room. I just and then,
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and then, and then it turns into a fight and
and it's not a fight with Nick Chubb. It's somebody
who's Nick Chubb's My guy. It's my guy. He owned it.
It's my guy. And then that guy that's sitting there
talking trash to Nick Chubb. THEM TWO gonna go. They'RE
gonna go to blows. In a bad locker room. There's
gonna be a fight. I just don't talk to nick.
That the the idea, though, that it's his fault when
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Corey Davis has got twenty five yards on the next
closest defender and then the on site kick. Regardless of
WHO's to blame, I I can't help but think you're
gonna look back on this because every fan base knows that.
If you're a fan of a football team, you know
that there are these one or two games early in
the season that your team ends up losing and when
they don't make the playoffs or they miss it by
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a game, you look back on and go, I knew
that game was gonna come back to honus. Every game
they give away when Deshaun Watson is out, I just
think becomes that my bigger because look, Baltimore just gave
up a game. They're kind of dealing with, you know,
some injuries there. Cincinnati looks like a shell of themselves
two games into the season. Pittsburgh's got issues on offense.
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Like I think there was a real opportunity here for
Cleveland to try and stack up as many wins as
you can before De Sean comes back and then you
just gun it towards the end of the regular season
and try and make it happen, and you gave away
a game, literally gave away a game, and I just
can't help but think it's gonna come back and bite
him in the ass. The the Cleveland browns there. You're
Cleveland Browns, might add, Brady your I'm not disagreeing with that,
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I mean it's your point. That's one where just you're
in two minutes of thirteen, Lavar, like we're standing on
the sidelines. We're going, all right, bro just go and
finish this thing litten. Let's get this man like you're
a fan. You might have left. Seriously, you would have
watched Nick Chubb running the end zone and let the
auto beat traffic. Man Up the traffic. I'M gonna beat
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traffic to get home. Some of the players do that.
If a player, the players, I'm gonna players beat the
traffic out like that's what you're that's what it's going
through your mind, and and that's how you end up losing.
Yet like that, that was one that you clearly even
the players in the field took it for granted, because
Joe Flacco just went ahead and drop some some dimes,
(12:17):
some Tuddies, you know they're, and just close that thing out.
I mean maybe Kad Yorke did to taking that little
too nonchalant. Yeah, can I assue just a question before
we get to break? DO FANS IN CLEVELAND? DEFANS in
Cleveland like Jimmy Has Um? What's the opinion of Jimmy?
Back to the original point of all, it is yeah,
(12:39):
because I just I wonder. It's not. Well, my money,
like that's a question that doesn't matter. Like has it
ever mattered at the fans of an organization like the owner?
It really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if Dallas Cowboys
fans like Jerry Jones. Well, is it on par with
Dan Snyder? I guess it's a better way to ask
the question. Is the feeling there on? Dude? No, I'm
(13:03):
just saying, like got a yacht somewhere in the Mediterranean.
But but there's been a feeling in Washington. They've wanted
him out for ye to get rid of a little
danny like the Little Danny who knows I get as
he has. He made a parents office yacht. You know,
Europe probably. I mean, no, it's not the same. I
(13:24):
mean little Danny has had all sorts of cultural issues
within this organization. Everything else, I mean, I don't know
that anyone's looking at Jimmy has them that way. I
think look, he's been a majority owner for a short
time in Cleveland. He early on had a bunch of
turnover year after year and I think people kind of
looked at him and his wife D and didn't probably
take them seriously with the manner in which how they
(13:46):
handled some of those hirings and firings. And I think
now they feel like they're in a much better place.
But after the whole deshaun Watson hiring, I mean you
guys saw the picture I sent you that lovely Tailgate,
didn't you? I mean it was a lovely tail gate
and Mannekim the way. I don't know that the fans,
honestly at this point, given what they've been what they've
gone through, I don't know that they care about any anything.
(14:10):
They just want to win, like they just want to
win her they do, like I don't. I don't. I
don't think they care about what Deshaun Watson did. I
don't think they care about Jimmy has them and any
of it. I think they just want to win and
do whatever it takes to win. They've been through so
much bad stuff. It's so hilarious to me when I
(14:30):
hear different fan bases complain about their team or how
bad they've been. I literally laugh. I'm like, imagine being
a Cleveland Browns Fan, like, think about that before you
really want to say anything about how bad your franchises.
And the Cherry on top the original team left and
there has won two super bowl sins that which is
(14:55):
that's crazy to think, but that's what I'm saying. That's
what I grew up with. Dude like that. That was
my team, that was my squad and even getting even
getting drafted there. And you see some of the INS
and outs and people are like, why can't they win?
Why can't they turn I'm like, well, you know, you
gotta go and actually be a part of an organization,
see it operated before you go oh, that's why this
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will tell you never try to beat a train after
breaking it can take a mile for a train to
completely stop. So when you come to a rail crossing,
stop because trains can so Mike Evans obviously is appealed
as one game suspension by the NFL for his little
scrap as a little dust up with marshawn lattimore over
the weekend. Tom Brady is on serious X M on
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his podcast and he spoke about the situation. Not a
fan of the suspension of his wide receiver. I love
Mike and the fact that Mike would come out there
to defend me. I mean it means everything in the
world to me as a teammate and a friend. It
Mike knows how I feel about him. So in the end,
emotions are a part of sports. Sometimes they boil over
and they obviously did yesterday and it's an unfortunate circumstance.
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I don't think it deserved any type of suspension. I
think that's ridiculous. Hopefully we can move past it get
to a better place and, you know, in the end
I appreciate Mike having my back. I know he'll learn
from it and he knows that we all have his back.
So there it is. Uh, do we think Mike Evans
is gonna win his appeal? No, yeah, probably not. You
don't think class this did you feel like it deserves
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the one game suspension? Now I feel like he got ejective.
That should have been the punishment. I mean, it could
have gotten out of control and I think that that's
why you gotta Take Take Action, but you can't make
they find him. Uh, I wanna final right, like like
if I was him, because because really, a fine slash
is spend. It's one of the same. Right, YOU'RE gonna
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lose money if you're suspended for that game. Right, you're
not earning that paycheck. So it's it's almost a double whammy.
I don't know how much he's gonna make per game,
but it's almost a double whammy if you suspend him
for that reason, you know, at least find him and
let him play. I just I understand the point you're making, Lavar,
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and I, and I hope people at home understand that's
one of the reasons why they've gotten rid of like
certain illegal plays or even taunting. Taunting has been emphasized
because they feel like it it raises the level of
intensity and it it ticks off other players and it
leads to fights. So that that's one of the biggest reasons.
People think it's like, oh, we want to set a
good example for the kids at home. No, they actually
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think it causes more fights because of taunting. So that
that's one of the reasons why they've gotten rid of
it or at least try to, you know, penalize players
for for taunting other players. This was an instance where
I don't know if he's got a history. Necessarily, I
think those two players do, but it looked like it
was being instigated by Lattimore and then Mike Evans came
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out to defend his quarterback and and there's something to
be said for that. I don't know if there's a
middle ground, like could you suspend a guy half a
game where you're gonna set out the first half of
your elges want to come back in. I mean right,
I think that the differences in the NFL. You've got
to set your roster for that active game day before right,
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you have forty six guys you dress of the fifty three.
So it's it almost puts them out even more of
a disadvantage if you only have access to forty five
of those guys for a half of the game. Now
you might say, come on, how can that become an issue?
I don't know. I mean they're pretty thin right now
a wide receiver. Obviously they just signed cool Beasley, so
they probably all the roster spots they can get in
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regards to healthy wide receivers. Um, I just I would
rather see this go down. You know, give him a five,
but let him play. I just I think it's too
punitive to this team right now. And on top of it, like,
I know it was a bad fight, but that stuff
happens and it wasn't like it was unprovoked. You know,
it was clearly provoked and got to the point where
he didn't he didn't get suspended. By the way, this
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is also the second time Evans has been suspended because
he got he was in a scuffle with a Latti
more ineen and he got suspended for a game. So
maybe the thought is, well, get suspended. I don't believe so.
I need to look at it, but I don't maybe
the man gets caught. Maybe they thought well, you know,
he's a he's a repeat offender, so we got everywhere
we gotta laid down. But like if he got ejected
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from the game, to me that should be the punishment
because in essence, now he's being he's being suspended for
more than one game, like if he if he got ejected.
And you want to find I'm thinking the reason and
behind it is that thing could have got way worse
than what it was like. It was going down the
road of getting bad and and when you have a
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scenario that plays out where you see the way, like
the way it escalated after Mike Evans knocked lattimore down,
I think was probably the key reason, because that incited
what took place after. There wasn't a melee until Mike
Evans got involved, like because because, if you really want
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to break it down, the first contact was, I believe,
Lottimore hitting for net, I believe, or or for net
hitting Lattimore, whichever one it was, I thought it was
a lot of more hitting for not. I thought it
was a lot more hitting for net as well, like
but that was where the initial contact of all of it.
If you wanted to say what incited all of it,
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it what you got to take it a step back
to when it was between Lattimore and for net. I
mean so the idea of it is, and I get
where where Tom Brady is coming from, and that's that's
you know, that's cool to stand in from, stand up
for your your teammates, stuff like that, but you ain't see,
you ain't see Tom Brady get involved. You know, like
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you're standing up for me, and it's like, kind of
like you ain't see Tom Brady again. Let me ask
you this. If it was Evans out there in a
scrap and Tom Brady came in and for a game,
I don't think he does. I think they take a
much harder look at if they're gonna take out the
ticket seller, the ratings get her. I think they're gonna
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take a little longer to make that decision. To think
about that well, I mean just think about just think
about if you saw Tom Brady really like thump, like
this dude really just went upside lattimore's head, like he
just took him down, or he just went upside his
head and then they took Tom Brady down. First of all,
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I would love to see the dude that's gonna take
Tom Brady down, like you really did that? That that's
what you want your legacy to be. You're the guy
that hit that old ass man down to the ground,
like really, you went there. I mean, I'm just saying,
first off, it's the goat for one, like you got
like on my approach over towards him, like he just
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hit my teammate, like what is like? Here's my thought
process in in all of it, right this with me,
and I'm out there on the field. Tom Brady's out
there on the field. Tom Brady just hit my teammate
in the face. You know, as I'm going over there,
I'm sit there and I am going to get as
close to Tom Brady's face as I can and I'm
going to call him every single B word that I
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can call him and every derogatory word that I could
call him. But, you know what, I'm not gonna do what.
I'm not going to touch him. I'm not going to
touch him. Like my face mask might touch his face mask,
my at the top of my helmet may touch his
helmet and we may be eye to eye, locked on
talking trash to one another. But you know the one
(23:56):
thing that lavar wouldn't do in that moment? It's touched
Tom you know Derek Brooks? Yeah, you know James Thrash? Yes,
all right. Did you play with James Thrash by, one
of the great names in all sports? Those two guys
are the ones that are hearing the appeal and making
the decision. All right, when you want to get him
on an hour, two, hour three, like either one of
(24:16):
those guys. Oh, you're you're doing that. Yeah, come on,
that was a set up. I've been trying to get
him on my pie. I've been trying to get deep
brooks on my pie. He's that's my hero. Um, I've
been trying to get him on my podcast. Can't catch
up with him. So, yeah, probably can't get him on here.
That's a bummer. I mean, I could call him right now.
It's probably six thirty three where he's at, but he
probably ain't gonna Answer. Yeah, I just you know, but
(24:39):
who knows? Maybe we'll get a decision and and they'll
be popped a game. I just thought he got ejected,
that would be the punishment. So the fact that he
got suspended in another game and now they're, you know,
kind of kind of depleted a little bit and they
got the pack, I just think that that's it's bad
for business if if they let a guy slide that
caused almost a riot on the field. Yeah, but I mean,
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are we really gonna start playing like the almost cause
you know that. You know they will Q. I mean
you know they will. I just I think that's I
don't know, I think I think Mike Evans has a case.
I'll just put it that way. I think if you're
James Thrash and you're listening to this discussion and given
his perspective on the matter, if you go back and
(25:21):
watch it and Mike's just saying look, Dude, this guy's
instigating it. He was one stuffball game. It's my quarterback.
It's no different than you know. I think there's a
little bit of leeway and hockey. When a guy goes
up tries to challenge a goalie right or bumps in
the goalie or does something, some guy a Defenseman, for
whoever comes in and defends a goalie, and hockey there's
like an unwritten rule of like yeah, you just don't
(25:41):
do that, and they kind of allow it to some degree.
I just I think there is there is potentially a
middle ground here where they say, Hey, we'll find you,
we'll let you go play, and I also feel like
when it takes into account, to Jonas's point, the objection
already occurred and you've got a team that's hurt badly,
wide receiver, and so are you? Are you really going
(26:02):
to penalize the entire team for his actions? Like I
just I think if they would would agree to a
pretty substantial fine. That might get the job done. You
do the NFL, baby. They love that money, they love
they love to seeing those big dollar signs. I would
assume it was how aggressive Lee he reacted to it
(26:23):
is going to be the reason why he doesn't get
out of it if he had pushed them, you know,
and it was like a push like get out of here,
like I get that, but that it was. It was.
It was super aggressive. I mean it was aggressive. Can
I ask this because we kind of pointed out that
lattimore didn't get nothing happened to Lottimore. Nothing had the
(26:44):
for net. Are you the type when you go in there,
when you're trying to state your case because there, because
there could be some collateral damageall better come up from
around them trees. Come on, come on down, they got us.
I've just added, like you're like, wait, I get fine.
Yet what started this whole thing is to other guys
like nothing happened to them. I'm snitching on all. Y'All, y'all,
(27:05):
come on out. Hey, they got us, I'm saying. Like Evans,
I'm like, Hey, look, if I'm going down, everybody's going
down with me. Either Mike just gets to find no
suspension or all of a sudden for net, lattimore, they're
getting there. In that letter too, in the Fedex. I
think that that's more of the case. If you ask
me more of the cases, there are more people culpable
(27:29):
than just Mike Evans. That would be that would be
my assessment of it. Is because the incitement of it
was was due to lattimore putting his hands on on
for net. So that exchange between for net and Lattimore
should be that should be the premise of of if
(27:52):
you're going hard but again, I look at it from
the standpoint of you can probably fine lattimore for pushing
the dude or whatever, but it wasn't. It wasn't aggressive intent,
is what I would say. And and the exchange between
(28:13):
them was was was very quick. When when Mike Evans
inserted himself in, circled around like like sought him out,
like like here's my chance, sought them out, came around
and then and then hit him the way that he
did and the aggressive nature that he did, and the
dude hit the ground the way that he did. And
(28:35):
then now, like because then now you can say, okay, well,
the dude that took took Mike Mike Evans down. That
was aggressive. That was aggressive. So when Alattimore gets finally
tossed down and everything starts like escalating from there, are
you finding and suspending the guy that threw you know through?
Was It lattimore that threw him down? Who wasn't that
(28:55):
threw him down because he had already knocked gladimore down,
like he obliterated somebody else. Yeah, somebody else came and
grabbed him until come down. Why isn't he getting suspended? Um?
But well, the NFL has been pretty ruthless about their punishments.
Did you see Jamal Adams? Even after he got injured
and the season was over, it got popped like almost
eleven thousand for an unsports icon that wasn't flagged in
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the game. They're going to donate a ton of money
to the community. They did say that. They put it
out there and you know, we see you two and
they're gonna put a whole lot of money and that
fine money goes into the community. Cool. If somebody, if
somebody robs me at gunpoint, I don't want him to
tell me as they're taking my money. Don't worry, it's
going to a good cause. Can I give my money
(29:40):
like they're taking? These guys are getting. That money that
they're they're donating got to come from somewhere and it
can't be the owners. Some guys some right offs. Some
guys need some right offs. You do get to write
it off to you get the right fines off. Really, yeah, yeah, Nice.
(30:01):
I shouldn't know. I shouldn't know. I was. I think
I was the most fine dude until until was it
you huge, uh, Hugh Douglas, hit hardball. This tells you
how old I am. I was the most fine dude
in the league because of how hard I was hitting people,
until Hugh Douglas cracked back on on hardball and he
(30:23):
totally like his number totally exceeded my number of all
the fines I was in at the time. WAS CHICAGO?
Really he was with the bears the nineties. I mean
two thousand to maybe two thousand one. I think that
that that might have been because he was with Indianapolis.
I've been to two thousand, two thousand one, two thousand
(30:45):
one I was the most. Where was he at in
two thousand one? Let's it was. I know you, you Douglas,
of the Philadelphia Eagles. Took my record or it took
my my my swag status of most fine player in
the league. The bears drafted Harbin eight six. So yeah,
that would have been well before he was but I
think he was with that. It May it was Baltimore,
(31:06):
Indianapolis or something. I'm gonna tell you in the second
Al Right, it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here Fox sports trading. It was Jim Miller who
got clip Miller. I knew it was Chicago. Yeah, you
know Auto Chicago quarterbacks look alike to me. I mean
they all look alike. I mean Bert Oh, I mean
even justin fields, they all look alike. Cor gonna tell
(31:28):
me Jim McMahon don't look like like Justin fields. Come on,
I mean, it's so disrespectful. So I had the wrong
but I had the right guy. I had the right team. Yeah,
and you was the guy who did it, because I
remember when they when they issued it out and he
took the lead from me. I was like, what would
(31:52):
that be nowadays? Sixty? I don't know, I'd be like
a hundred thousand. That's a lot of money for for
a hit. For ahead, like I was getting like ten fifteen.
You know, I hit. I hit Brad Johnson. Um, I
remember just and this is preseason. This is how I
(32:12):
knew my season where this was going. They were they
were trying to phase guys like me out. I knew
this where where it was going. I hit. I hit
Aaron Stecker in that game. Now, knock Daron Stecker's helmet off.
In that game, I go running after Aaron Stecker's helmet because,
I swear on everything, I thought his head was still
in the helmet. That's how hard I hit him. I
(32:33):
ran to the helmet. I was like, oh my gosh,
I turned around, I looked and Aaron Stecker's eyes where
big as all get out right. I looked at him.
I was like get up, I don't care about your life.
Get up right. Then maybe like a few plays later,
a few seriously, I mean it was preseason, so it
couldn't have been too much longer. I hit Brad Johnson
(32:53):
so hard. I mean I hit him hard. It's like
the noisy man. I don't never forget it. And I
broke his rid, like I fractured him and and I
got fined for it. They fined me like ten g's
for hitting him too hard. I couldn't believe it. I was,
I was, I was, I appealed. It did not win.
(33:16):
Like it's like, how are you gonna find me? It
was a perfectly legal hit. Wasn't no flags thrown, no nothing.
They throw the UH, they throw the through the mail
at me. They didn't throw the throw the laundry at me.
They threw the mail at me. Ten G's, when they come,
when they come. I know quarterbacks don't know nothing about
find schedules, but I think, I think they come on
(33:38):
like Thursday or Friday or something like that, like you
be dread and getting that Gat Name Mail on like
Thursday or Friday. It's like later in the week you
get the fine because those people handed out fine. Don't
understand how the SERENGETTI works right. You'll probably you'll probably
know tomorrow or Friday if Lattimore, like who else, got
fined in the scenario. I believe, if it's, if it's
(34:00):
still the same way it was when I was playing
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all right, there comes the jude. So he's got sixty
and I feel like it's like gotten no publicity, like
like nobody's really talking about it. Well, is that because
most people look at it and go after seeing what
Barry Bonds? Did they associate that with the home run
record a single season? Or do you look at Roger
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Merris and say that's the record? Because people, you know,
tend to connect the PDS with and this is the problem.
When you start bringing the P ds into the conversation,
it waters everything down. Everything should be counted, all right,
you can't go back. If you made a profit off it,
like Major League Baseball did. Don't go back at retroactively
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Kiss my ass. You guys made money off it and
you glorified it. Plus they were winding the balls a
little tighter, so there's better pop off of that. I mean,
Major League Baseball has control over that. That's one of
those dirty little secrets they don't want to talk about.
I'm with you. I mean I I think if look,
it's on you if you don't want to police at
harder or you don't want to figure that stuff out.
So the records the record. I think that's partially why
(37:17):
I kind of look at it and go, yeah, it's
not really you know, it's awesome, it's just not the record.
It's also pretty funny that he's in a contract yere.
He's get paid best, best season of his career and
he's he's potentially setting records there or coming close to it.
So good for him. Yeah, I can't get paid there.
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Paid will, in case you missed it, after that the
fan who caught the ball, twenty year old fan in
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had a meet and greet, signed baseball bat decided to,
you know, just cough it up, guys more. Sorry, he's
an idiot. Hey, okay, hold on. Why is that Ball
gonna be worth that much? Because it was the one
(37:59):
that tied what Baby Ruth? Yeah, who had sixty? What?
MARRIS had sixty? I mean, I mean, what's the value
in that ball? Could get a couple hundred thousand, right,
could you? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think that's all.
That didn't break the records. Yeah, I think. And that's
what we're talking about. And they estimate the one that
will break will probably break a million. I get why
(38:21):
that one would but I mean, what's the value in?
Because it ties baby ruth? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's
that's that's really and also goes back to well, but
these are clean. You know, there's going to be that
that going around. These are the cleanest home runs to
come close to the record since since baby until they
realize these baseballs balance weight these things and gas up
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