September 29, 2022 • 39 mins
Bill Belichick is playing games with his “day-by-day” comments about Mac Jones. Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer battles through car alarms to weigh in on the bizarre handling of Tua, Russell Wilson’s slow start in Denver, Trevor Lawrence coming into his own and more. Plus, the battle of words between Russell Wilson and Eli Manning might have underlying drama.
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that he's wrong with my lotion? Berno, what's what's here? Man?
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What do you mean? It didn't smell bad? It's like this?
Uh Walmart? M oh, this is where you? So there's
this place? Because that's okay, hold on, that doesn't describe
what kind of lotions because I was just talked about
the place. Get yeah, I was getting to it. So
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but what is it? What is it matter where you bought?
Because I have to explain because I have to explain
this to you because you've never been to Walmart. So
here's the Walmart, right, so you listen, Walmart, I mean
that is way beneath you. At this point in time,
you're the face of big new kickoff. So I'm a
Walmart shopper, and so I go to Walmart and I
could get the name brand lotion, all right, but instead
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I want to save a few bucks, so I get
the store brand, and thus I got to deal with
maybe not the most pleasant scent in the world, but again,
relatable hash to the actual name of hard Hat lunch pail.
It's Walmart brand lotion. I'm not making it. I'm not
saying you're making it up. First, I have a name. Yeah,
it's best what it says Walmart brand log. Yeah. I
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don't know what the Walmart brand is. Maybe if there's
usually a brand, there's a name. If I's probably not
Walmart brand lotion. I don't know. Maybe I'll get into
a Bronco game now, you know, maybe because I'm supporting
the product. You know, Walmart baby, how about it? How
about it? I'm looking for it. I'm looking forward. There's
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there's Jurgen's that sounds name Brandon me Um. Let's see.
There's hemps, it's the it's gold bond. There's there's Jurgen's Glow.
There's vasoline that might be one for you. The generic
brand is called Great Value, So it's great Value. That's
what it is. Thank you, Yeah, thank you quite veno.
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You just didn't want to say it's called Great Value lotion. Huh,
I don't. I didn't remember the name of it. I
just know it's the store brand. I don't essentially refined
it's called But again, I think the most important part
of this is that you know hashtag relatable, hashtag, hardhat,
lunch pail hashtag. Man of the people there they have
luber Derman their vino. They I mean, they do have
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name brand lotions in Walmart. It's just what you chose
to get off of the you know, the shelf. And
by the way, LaVar who I've tried to offer lotion
to who refuses to accept my lotion because he said,
there's not have way too much ash for the little
amount of hands size carry on lotion that that you offer.
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So how much do you need I mean more than
what you have off So a little travel squeezer of
lotion that doesn't work for you, Well it would if
I was using it all at one for one to
two ankles. As my ash is real. When I'm ashy,
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it's the ash noess is real. So I'm I don't
like the halfway do undo the job of how ashy
I am? I don't like to tease my skin with
a little drip of lotion air for this leg, a
little drip air for that lag. I just don't want
to do it. Yeah, you know what you want to
want to drop live in the ash. You want to
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be waterboarded, you don't want to drop a water. That
should be a song that is a pregame show for
the big noon kickoff and for I always walk up music.
Living in the Ash, That's what it should be called. Yeah, man,
living in the Ash, Living in the Ash. I'm living
in the Ash. I'm living in the edgh Is that
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just an Aerosmith song? It is? I stole it? Oh man?
All right, so I we have Smith, my bad. We
do have a a major update. This is a huge,
huge update on a quarterback situation in the NFL. So
(05:31):
a lot of people have been trying as big as Julio,
like a huge update for me, that was was it
was an update? For you? What it was? It definitely was.
You know, Eddie could have helped you. Eddie could have
mentioned it. Maybe I'm made sense too, but he could have. Yeah,
why did you mentioned could Eddie could have chimed in
(05:52):
like too? So LaVar too soon? LaVar LaVar no no no, no,
not geta And Eddie is supposed to be your person too?
Is my person? I don't. I don't think Roberto had
my microphone on. I don't. I think that's that's what
it is. Roberto was wanting to laugh at me singing
Coulio song the way that I was knowing it was
too soon. Thanks Thanks Berto. Well listen, you know it happens,
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I mean live radio. I mean, what do you want
so right? You know, we could do one of these
podcasts and just to you know, try and make it
perfect afterwards, or we could you know, have the balls
to stand up live, you know, turn our show it
out podcast after Yeah, they do, but not in real time,
real time for those don't you delete certain portions where
like you lose bets and different things. I mean, listen,
(06:38):
deletes malete you know who cares. I mean, you know
some people can make accusations all they want. I mean,
to me, I think everything is done on one take
and we don't have any mistakes here on this show.
So that's the way. That's why I'd like to think
about things. But um, Brian Hoyer is going to be
your starting quarterback for the New England Patriots. Huge update,
Huge update for the Patriots. But the best part of
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the conversation about part the quarterback situation in New England
was Bill Belichick having to answer questions from the media
yesterday who wanted to just know the extent of mac
Jones injury. And so here was Coach Belichick about days
getting better. Say how goes day by day? Does he
have a high ankles brain? Day by day? What do
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I look like? A doctor? An orthopedic surgeon? Like? I
don't know. Talk to the medical experts. What are the
medical experts on staffs that day by day we'll evaluate him, David,
I mean what diverses make to make? What do you
think I'm gonna read m R. I That's not my job.
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So it's there and they talking about it, right, Yeah,
stay by day, it's getting better. Day by day. We'll
see see what it is tomorrow. It's a lot better
than what's yesterday. See what it is. I can't get
it up of it. I think it's hilarious. It's literally
turned into a game with him. He refuses to crack
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when it comes to giving information to the media. Refuses
to And they sit there and I think they're all
in on it, and they try and find different ways
to trip him up, and he refuses to play along
with it because ultimately none of it matters. Whatever he says,
He's not going to give out a bunch of information
he doesn't want to give out with It doesn't matter,
so he's just gonna keep playing the game. I love it,
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and I don't think there's also an element to it
that I mean, he really doesn't know. I mean mac
Jones could come back a week before they thought, or
a week after. I mean, at this point, like what
does it matter, you know, like it's it's not going
to change week by week, day by day. Everyone to
look at it, right about it. But that's that's the
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reality of it. So I just it is interesting, like
he once he goes that route, I don't know that
there's any point in continuing to follow up on that
specific subject if you're a reporter. I mean, maybe it's
for their own enjoyment and what it's So I just
think it's I think it's hilarious and and he just
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stands up there because I don't. I don't believe for
one second that he's as big of a curmudgeon as
everybody makes him out to be. I do. It's the
same with Saban. I find it hard to believe that
these guys are the standoffish guys that they are to
the media. Otherwise, why Saban able to land the recruiting
class that he does and the players love him. Why
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is Belichick able to get guys to want to play
for him for all these years? I just find it
hard to believe that what they portray in front of
the media is anything close to what they actually are
in the locker room. I just was recruited best saban
and and I actually um ran into Belichick in Annapolis
when I was living in an Annapolis. You know, he's
from that area. Good guys, Um I would Belichick would
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I would say Belichick is still kind of he's he's
kind of um I would, I would say, I guess
I felt it was more like actually awkward, like like
just doesn't want to he just doesn't want to do
all of that. So it's like, hey, how you doing. Yeah.
I was like hey LaVar Arrington. He's like, yeah, I
know who you are. He's like, you know, good to
see you. Have a good one. And that was it,
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you know what I mean, Like we didn't have like
he was not inviting a conversation, which I wasn't either,
you know what I mean. Like it was like we
exchanged a pleasantry, we acknowledged one another, and we kept
it moving, but it didn't seem like he you know,
it was literally he's keeping it moving, like he's not
gonna stop and be like, oh, hey, how you doing,
Like you know, how's everything I heard you lived here
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or whatever? Like you know, I had heard a lot
about him being there, you know when I lived there
because of his dad or whatever. But um, but I
would say with with Saban, Saban was like super charismatic.
You know, him and his wife, UM took took us
out to to eat and when he was in Miami
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and we had a you know, we had a great time.
And he's you know, he's you know, Saban has that
that a AU basketball coach field to him. But it's
not over the top. He's not over selling, but he's selling.
You could get you could get you get the feeling
that he's selling you, but it's not over the top.
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It's like, I'm Nick Saban. You know, it's like you
should want to play for me. And you know this
is like he talked about family, um, family environment, family
driven the way he does things. So I wouldn't say
he's he's like you know what people think he is
as as it applies to the media. Um, I didn't
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get enough of a sample size to really really go
to in depth about Belichick. I mean it sounds like
you know him that a little bit better, Q, but
it just he seemed like he was okay with acknowledging,
you know, hey, you know, hey, how you doing, Hey,
how you doing? But that was that's it, that's good, Like,
that's it. Let's move on from it, which I have
no problem with that. Would you want your son's playing
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for Nick Saban? Of course, yeah, I just I would't
want to play for Nick Saban. I would want to
play for Bill Belichick. Yeah. I had always like coaches
like that though, Like my favorite coaches were Marty Sottenheimer
and Tom Coughlin when I was in the league, So
you know, I just always liked that type of coach.
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But right now we turn it over to the one
and only Albert Brier. He is a senior NFL reporter
at the mm QB. You can get him on Twitter
at Albert Brier. He is always kind enough to join
us here every single Thursday. Albert, what the hell is happening?
How's your Thursday? I mean, we've even worked on hiring
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a band special to this show because we wanted to
make sure we had your entrance music ready for you.
So here we go. There it is, Albert. This is
the kind of red car back YEP. I had nothing
to do. Freddy Freddie having have an update on his
Wolverine for me freddy nd. I mean they're they're undefeated
(13:51):
right now. They're they're they're they're like heating your direction.
They're they're they're getting ready for that match up in Columbus. Yeah,
a little uh, a little more difficult way. You're not
playing against air anymore. I mean outside of Notre Dame,
which you've even admitted it wasn't even as tough of
a matchup. Who is who? I appreciate that. I appreciate
(14:14):
to show you guys put on a Saturday a little better. Yeah,
but I'm just saying, like who was played? Wisconsin? Wisconsin,
right because they're a powerhouse in the Big ten West,
because like Minnesota is not better right now, or even
Iowa for that matter, or whoever else. So, yeahs always
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it was over quick. It was it was it was
over fast. It was over quick. You know. I didn't
like that at all, Albert, So can you answer the
question that everybody is trying to figure out. We've been
talking about it for a couple of days here, what
the hell was going on with to did he have
a concussion? They're saying it looks like they everything's on
(14:59):
the up and up from people you've talked to what's
going on with this? Well, I think there are a
couple of things like that are important here. First of all, um,
you know, I think the the NFL, the Dolphins probably
botched the front end of this um And what I
mean by that is when he went in and I
think everybody saw his head bounce off the turf and
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then the way he stumbled to the ground. They first
said he was being evaluated for a head injury and
he did have a concussion test that when he went
back there. The problem is then they made it sound
like that had nothing to do why with why he
went back there, which I have no idea why they
did that, Like that part of it didn't make any
sense to me. Became a concussion test, just say he
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gave him a concussion test and he passed it. Um.
So like, I think they totally botched that part of it.
The second part of it, which I think is also relevant,
is I mean, look, guys, it would take a lot
of guys being complicit, a lot of people being bless
it for them to still be covering this thing up.
Like if he wasn't in the concussion protocol and he
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really had one, then that would take the league office,
the independent concussion spot or the Dolphins staff to himself,
Like a lot of people would have to be in
on this for it to be a cover up. So
do I think the Dolphins in the league botch the
front end of it. Absolutely, and they deserve a ton
of skepticism for the way that they've handled concussions over
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the years. But you know, as far as like whether
or not he had a concussion, I do think like
the second part of this, I just think it's far
fetched to believe that that many people would be in
on perpetuating this sort of lie over the course of
a week. I don't know, it's weird. I apologize that
(16:51):
I got some weird trailer break system alert on my
car so I may have to pull over here. But
you were you trailering something recently, not since the summer,
so this is really weird. Yeah, we have got bike
one of those bike racks for the back of our
back of our tahoe, so we have that on here sometimes.
But it's weird, Like, I don't know what's going on there?
(17:13):
Is it? Maybe you're not wearing your seat belt. I
have my seatbelt. I'll send you get the picture of
me in my seat. Yeah, maybe that sensor. Maybe that
sensor is a Michigan installed sensor. Albert, Albert clicking or ticket.
You come on, you know the rules, all right, it's
all over the place here. You've gotta be smarter at
this free you know what I mean? Yeah, you're free
(17:35):
right now. Or that's a pacemaker or some sort. I
do appreciate our visits with Albert are exclusive to any vehicle,
he said. Like it's always It's always gonna be in
whatever car, he said, whether they're at home anyone else.
He's gonna be driving around. He's gotta find a way.
Where you headed right now? Where were you driving to Albert?
I'm heading I'm going to get some coffee, and uh,
(17:57):
my kids like muffins in the morning, so I'm going
to get muffins. I pulled over just so the alert
to stop. If it if it keeps going, then I'll
actually get out physically, get out of the car. Anything,
anything for anything for the show guys. So they like
muffins more than doughnuts either, not a doughnut eaters and
prefer the muffins. And well one of them, one of
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one of them likes donuts. Muffins are marginally healthier, I think,
so we go with muffins in the morning. Very good.
How about that something new every day. I think that
pretty much does it. For today's interview with Albert, I
want to talk a little bit about UM, just Zach
Wilson coming back for the New York Jets. I believe
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he's on on schedule, on pace to get there. I
mean at this point, if the Jets continue on in
the manner, is that is there a hot seed there
in New York for Robert Salo. I know he's keeping
receipts and all that. I'm just more curious if things
don't go the way obviously they're anticipating them going, is
there a hot sea form or they gonna give him
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a little more time to be patient with him. Well,
I think you have to look at this sort of globally, Brady,
where Joe Douglas is now in his fourth season as
the general manager. Robert Salo was his handpicked head coach,
and you know, like Joe, you have to look at
the areas and which he invested, Right, So they've invested
a ton in the offensive line. UM, a couple of
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first round picks, a couple of big free agent contracts.
That area is still doesn't look like it's come together.
They've invested money in the pass rushes, the pass rush
where it's supposed to be, and now of course they've
invested the second overall picking the quarterback. And so you know,
I think part of the evaluation is where the GM
is now in his fourth year in charge and after
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having run three drafts, and if the GM is on notice,
then the question becomes do you force the head coach
on the next general manager, whoever that is? And to me,
like that's I think that's the operative question here. God,
I'm sorry, guys, I'm gonna get out of hard. Yeah,
you're going a curse right there? Where an't you come on?
(20:06):
Let it fly? Albert, come on, by the way, this
is winter. If this is wintertime, not not a shot
in hell he's getting out of the car to do
this interview. He would just hang up on us. I
mean it'd be a little bit chilly. Yeah, I'm sure
it's nice get nice and brisk on the East coast
right now, but then again it's still nice weather. Yeah. Yeah,
(20:29):
is Albert there? You know, I think he's I think
he's adjusting. He hit mute while he was getting out
of the proper. He's pissed. I'm out of the color
out you guys, hear me? Yeah? Got you now? All right?
My next all right? So so so let me I'll
finish my jet tip no worse, I will finish my
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jet's answer, the question becomes that the general manager is
now unnoticed, then do you forced the head coach on
a new general manager? So I think those are the
decisions that are happening made. I think at the very least,
subjects need to show progress in Zach Wilson needs to
show some promise by the end of the year to
keep any of that discussion from happening. Mhmm uh. In Denver, Uh,
(21:15):
it's interesting. I saw a funny little little deal. I
don't know if it was Cue or Jonas or who. Okay,
I thought it was so interesting that Elijah Elijah Manning
took a nice little swipe at the Denver Broncos and Russ,
saying they should have spent that money on a kicker
(21:35):
Um instead of on or Russ. Russ responded by saying that,
well he's owing two or he's too a no against
Uh what's his name? Something powers I believe his name
powers Yeah, yeah, State, Penn State try out, Yeah right. Um.
(21:56):
I'm just curious, is there is there any type of
umblings of Buyer's remorse at this point or is it
still you know, positive feeling. I think it's very too
early for that, LaVar, but I do think that there's
something to watch there and that, you know, I think
this is what Russell always wanted, you know what I mean, like,
which is um I felt. I think he felt like
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in Seattle, um they played him in a way that
limited him and like that he could be a Brady
manning Field general, like that sort of player, and the
way that they deployed him was almost as like an
option quarterback, where his legs were a big part of
the equation. And I think you can see that in
the way that they played him the first three weeks
(22:38):
of the season, and you can see the Broncos sort
of going all in on that. You can also see
I think the awkwardness of it, and Nathaniel Hackins and
Russell and everybody else they're trying to figure it out.
And I think all along this was gonna take time.
I don't know for sure that he's never gonna get
there because I know there were a lot of people
in Seattle who felt like Russell really wasn't that type
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of quarterback and that playing him that way wouldn't work,
and that you know, the one season that they tried
to do that with Brian Schottenheimer's the offensive coordinator, it
didn't work. And so you know, I think that that's
going to be the question is it's how Russell sees himself,
how forceful he is about trying to you know, be
(23:21):
able to play that way, um, and how tolerant the
Broncos are to it, um and again, like maybe it
works out, you know, but I think this thing was
always going to take time, and I think that's something
to hack it, and Russell been shipping away at over
the course of the last six months and um and
and yeah, I mean I think the hope is that
you get to November December and it starts to click.
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But you know, certainly hasn't looked great. And I think
one thing I know a couple of coaches noticed at
the end of that game against the Niners was how
all of a sudden Russell look pulling the rip court
and running a little bit more at the end of
the game, and you sort of wonder if that's because
some of the things that they're doing aren't really work
for him. Albert Bridge joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him
(24:05):
on Twitter at Albert Brier. This is two pros and
a cup of Joe on fs ARE. So let me
ask you this about the Jacksonville Jaguars From people you
talked to, what is the sense you get in conversations
about whether or not this team is for real and
potentially a playoff team right now? Well, I think it
starts with Trevor Lawrence. Is who everybody thought Trevor Lawrence was,
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you know what I mean? And um, you know, I
I know that there were some questions on him last year,
and I think the primary question was does he see
it fast enough? Right? And I know, like having talked
to some you know, scouts, some gms, some coaches who
evaluated him, Um, in the last couple of years in Clemson,
they felt like next War. They mass like the offensive
(24:49):
Clemson was pretty simple, and he didn't process as fast
or see the field as well as maybe they thought
he would coming into the NFL. I think what Doug
p Gerson's effectively done is makes the offense work for him,
or maybe that wasn't happened in him last year under
urban Meyer and Jacksonville Um, Doug Peterson is doing things
(25:10):
to make things simpler and easier on him so he
could play faster. And I think now you're seeing where
everybody thought he was a generational down coming out. So
I think that's where it starts, is sort of the
investment that they've made in the quarterback with Doug Peterson
and what Doug has been able to do for Trevor
to get him playing faster. And then I think once
you get past that point, like it's sort of all
(25:32):
from there, like that's not the terrible roster, you know,
it's you know, Chicago is not a very good roster
right now. Atlanta is not a very good roster right now.
I think most people would tell you, most people need everything,
would tell you Jackson have got a better roster than
those teams do. And you know, I think a huge
part of this was sort of getting the quarterback going,
you know, and and Doug coming in and doing the
(25:54):
same thing he didn't Billy Carson with Carson Wentz at
the beginning, which was putting a lot of quarterbacks, like
you prastruction around him and bringing in quarterback guys like
Fresh Taylor and Mike McCoy and uh and Jim Bob Cooner.
I think it's really really helped and getting Trevor where
he needs to be in year two, Albert, I want
to ask you about the Saints. Obviously things haven't gone
(26:15):
quite the way they had hoped this year. Um, obviously
you know Jamis Winston, he's banged up, may or may
not play in London? Is there a little bit of
a thought too, like that quick transition from Sean Payne
stepping away to Dennis Allen and just everything right now
is all up in the air and moving forward like
that's just seems to be a place that it's too
talented roster, too good of a defense and and maybe
(26:36):
unfortunately Dennis Allend is not gonna work or this offense
is just it's it's really it's missing its biggest pieces.
For maybe what Sean Payton has a play caller. Yeah,
it's gonna be interesting to see because I mean if
you look at it, Brady, like there super group is
almost completely revamped from last year. You know, and and
in bringing in Christo Lave and Michael Thomason played all
(26:58):
the last couple of years, so he's back in there
and out and he has barely worked at all the
James before this year Jarvis Landry, so it's a different
group there, and um, you know Pete Carmens the first
time being like that's obviously the um even though he's
been around for twelve years, so I'm not changed there.
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I'm gonna be really interested to see what happens if
Jamis doesn't play, because quietly, I can tell you guys,
like the coaches, the staff there, we're really interested with
the training campidate and he Dalton had and so I
can't sure would be really interesting to see he turned
over a bus through three weeks and there's anything I
(27:40):
believe we live right now. I'll be really interested to
see what the offense looks like with Andy Dalton in there,
um A because again he had a really strong summer
for them, and be because he's not gonna, you know,
I go don't there to be any revelation here in
any Dalton's like way more than we ever thought he was.
But I think Andy can at least come in and
(28:00):
give you like league average play at the quarterback position
and maybe unlock some of the weapons around him. And
so you know, I I think that that's going to
be the thing to watch is if we get Sandy
Dalton in there, it's either going to Jamis wants to
as the starting quarterback or maybe service in indictment and
maybe he was the thing holding them back. So um
(28:23):
yeah again, I mean, I don't know if Jamie's gonna
play on Sunday or not, but if he doesn't, I
think maybe we get kind of a view of where
the Sames stand on offense. Um, and you know, I
guess sort of like a comparison and what they look
like with just steady average quarterback playing there. He is
Albert Brier, Senior NiFi reporter at the mm QB. You
(28:45):
can get him on Twitter at Albert Brier, always kind
enough to join us every single Thursday. Nothing's gonna stop
him from making this hit. Not an a long not
not a bike rack on the back of the car,
not not not a muffin hunt. Nothing is going to
stop him from doing this show. And we appreciate it. Alberts,
get those muffins. Yeah, I made it happen today. So
(29:07):
you guys are welcome. You guys are welcome. Thank you
Albert Brier again, always a good time catching up with him.
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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this for certain, this one. Oh yeah, a little slow,
isn't it? Yeah, but it's that slow build up. It's
(30:34):
that's slow reflective. But it's like got like a real
like jack your ass up reflective sound to it. Towel
over your head, head down in the weight room, weight room,
it comes here, it comes this is it come on sticks? Yeah?
Oh yeah, get a little little slow for me. Nah,
(30:58):
that's that's like that man, that's that's like that's that's
like intense. It's like calmly intense. Oh wow, thanks for
all right. Yeah, there are other workouts you can do.
I guess then have to always that's always always. Oh man,
(31:21):
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So we're talking to Albert Brier a few minutes ago,
(32:04):
and there was all sorts of stuff that was going on.
I mean, he was looking for muffins, He had some
coffee alarms going off. I didn't understand what he was
saying though, with the alarm that it was he had
some like bike rack on the back and that he
was told sensor okay, yeah, it's like if something gets
(32:24):
too close to you that the sensor will go off. Yeah.
So I mean apparently apparently whatever he had on the
back of the truck it was setting the censor off.
It was truck nuts, It could have been yeah, I mean,
if they're big enough. Yeah. Um, alright. So the reason we, uh,
(32:45):
we bring that up is because LaVar you asked him about,
you know, just sort of the situation in Denver buyer's
remorse and uh this U this leads into this next
discussion because on the Manning cast on Monday Night Football,
just that I mean just that eight great, great cast
that they put on that I've I've never watched. Eli
(33:05):
Manning was apparently cracking a couple of jokes and the
expense of Russell Wilson, and here's what he had to
say about the new Broncos quarterback. They should have paid
that punter two insull so that in reference to the
amount of times that they've punted there. And so of
course that made the rounds. It made the rounds, and
(33:25):
we just identify first the awkward nous of that, like
Peyton Man who lives in Denver and has been in
the Broncos facility and meeting with with Russell, and so
it's one of those where Eli is kind of taking
the shot, you know, saying that. But there's got to
be some some in depth of knowledge, oh yeah, as
(33:45):
to what's happening behind the scenes. That maybe he's getting
from Peyton that was calculated. Yeah, so Russell Wilson was
asked about it, of course, and uh, it was great
for him to take time away from TikTok videos promoting
subway to go ahead and hugging to go ahead and
uh and answer back to the question in reference to
(34:05):
the joke made by Eli Manning about the amount of
money they paid him slash the punter, slash whatever. Here
was the new Broncos quarterback powers. Um, yeah, you know
Chet Powers. You don't, Um, I'm three and against Chet Powers.
You It's part of the game, and we're just having guys,
having fun, you know, and everything else. I have a
lot of respect for Peyton an Eli and those guys. Guys.
(34:25):
I mean, you know, I've always looked up to those guys.
I'm not I'm not stressing about. See, he screwed up.
He screwed up. He should have just left it with
I'm three and O against Chad Powers because you know
what he's doing, right, He's yeah, he's pulling it out
and saying, you know what, we played three times and
I beat you all three times. And secondly, now you're
(34:46):
doing caricatures at Penn State while I'm out here making
millions upon millions of dollars. I've got a Super Bowl too,
and I'm still playing in the league while you're doing
bad comedy sketches up at Penn State and doing some
some crummy Monday night show an alternative broadcast, thinking people
still didn't hire Joe Buck and Troy Aikman to make
the broadcast better on the other channel. Good for Russell
(35:09):
Wilson unfortunately carried on and turned into a kiss ass again.
He screwed up, And I actually think I actually liked
what he did because it was on brand for him,
you know, as far as like he came out like
throw that overhand, reiight down, down, goes Manning, and it's
like he kind of took a shot and then helped
him back up. Uh yeah, but that's that's him, Like
(35:29):
that's genuinely him how he would handle it. So I
actually I didn't have an issue with it. I think
it was uh you know, it's interesting that it got
brought up because it kind of seems out of left field,
Like there's a lot of other things you could talk
about in the course of the press conference. You know
the fact that like that guy brought up almost leads
(35:50):
me to think that someone tips someone off to ask
him about it so he can make that That's why
I asked Albert that, like, the Mannings are super intelligent,
bright dudes, and their wit and their humor comes from
real places. So so the idea of of Eli taking
that swipe, I almost feel like, like you said, like
(36:13):
maybe somebody says something to Peyton or somebody. You know,
they might run the same circles, yet they seem like
they're close enough where they may talk to the same
people or know somebody who's closer to the situation, and
it's like, Okay, they should have spent that money on
a kicker, Like wow, you're taking you're taking a shot
at at the guy they just paid all that money to.
(36:35):
And and to me, it's like, all right, is somebody
having buyer's remorse in the Denver Bronco organization John Lynch,
Maybe I don't, I don't know or not John Lynch,
h John Elway, excuse me? Um? Is somebody having uh
buyer's remorse moment where it's like, man, we we paid
all this money for this. Like it's almost like somebody
(36:55):
said we paid for this. This is what we paid for,
this is what we're getting like and and he put
it out there like he put it out there, and
it was comical and it was within the parameters of
what the show was. But was there some truth to that?
Did that come from a place of where somebody gave
that truth? Like man like we overspace, we overpaid for
(37:19):
this guy. So you so that happens or I don't
know if it happens, but you're thinking, Brady, that somebody
planted the question there so he could respond and have
a chance to address it. That's more what I was
alluding to is that it was more of like someone
you know, obviously they were aware of of everything that's
that happens that's out there nowadays, and so it seemed
(37:40):
like it was a setup. Um And I mean, look,
he was ready right like he was ready to pounce
on that question and answer with that response. I just
look at the reality is he knew it's three and
no off the top of his head too, didn't It
was saying I knew his stab most and then everything.
Most people would have to go back like yeah, I
(38:00):
think so, like I would have been more I would
have remembered my my record verse Peyton more so than
my record versus Eli. By the way, I'm oh for
versus Payton alone, Power, let alone the Powers guy. Yeah, Powers,
Like it was just kind of one of those where
you kind of felt like maybe there was some extra
(38:20):
motivation behind who was asking the question the first place,
so Russell could get that comment out. But like I said,
you didn't like the fact that he was passive aggressive.
But that's like the most hypocritical thing because you're the
most passive aggressive person, Joe. I didn't like the fact
that he continued on. He should have just stuck the
landing with him three and oh against Chad Powers and
let everybody know this guy is doing bad comedy while
(38:41):
I'm still playing football making millions. But again, he had
to turn into a kiss ass at the end. That's
what part of bothered me. That's what it irritates me
about it. He had a chance there get a little
bit of his edge back, he lost it. I think
that's more of like what you wanted for him, but
that's not him. Yeah, you're right. Listen, Well, finally you
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that he's wrong with my lotion? Berno, what's what's here? Man?
(01:26):
What do you mean? It didn't smell bad? It's like this?
Uh Walmart? M oh, this is where you? So there's
this place? Because that's okay, hold on, that doesn't describe
what kind of lotions because I was just talked about
the place. Get yeah, I was getting to it. So
(01:49):
but what is it? What is it matter where you bought?
Because I have to explain because I have to explain
this to you because you've never been to Walmart. So
here's the Walmart, right, so you listen, Walmart, I mean
that is way beneath you. At this point in time,
you're the face of big new kickoff. So I'm a
Walmart shopper, and so I go to Walmart and I
could get the name brand lotion, all right, but instead
(02:10):
I want to save a few bucks, so I get
the store brand, and thus I got to deal with
maybe not the most pleasant scent in the world, but again,
relatable hash to the actual name of hard Hat lunch pail.
It's Walmart brand lotion. I'm not making it. I'm not
saying you're making it up. First, I have a name. Yeah,
it's best what it says Walmart brand log. Yeah. I
(02:31):
don't know what the Walmart brand is. Maybe if there's
usually a brand, there's a name. If I's probably not
Walmart brand lotion. I don't know. Maybe I'll get into
a Bronco game now, you know, maybe because I'm supporting
the product. You know, Walmart baby, how about it? How
about it? I'm looking for it. I'm looking forward. There's
(02:53):
there's Jurgen's that sounds name Brandon me Um. Let's see.
There's hemps, it's the it's gold bond. There's there's Jurgen's Glow.
There's vasoline that might be one for you. The generic
brand is called Great Value, So it's great Value. That's
what it is. Thank you, Yeah, thank you quite veno.
(03:19):
You just didn't want to say it's called Great Value lotion. Huh,
I don't. I didn't remember the name of it. I
just know it's the store brand. I don't essentially refined
it's called But again, I think the most important part
of this is that you know hashtag relatable, hashtag, hardhat,
lunch pail hashtag. Man of the people there they have
luber Derman their vino. They I mean, they do have
(03:39):
name brand lotions in Walmart. It's just what you chose
to get off of the you know, the shelf. And
by the way, LaVar who I've tried to offer lotion
to who refuses to accept my lotion because he said,
there's not have way too much ash for the little
amount of hands size carry on lotion that that you offer.
(04:00):
So how much do you need I mean more than
what you have off So a little travel squeezer of
lotion that doesn't work for you, Well it would if
I was using it all at one for one to
two ankles. As my ash is real. When I'm ashy,
(04:24):
it's the ash noess is real. So I'm I don't
like the halfway do undo the job of how ashy
I am? I don't like to tease my skin with
a little drip of lotion air for this leg, a
little drip air for that lag. I just don't want
to do it. Yeah, you know what you want to
want to drop live in the ash. You want to
(04:44):
be waterboarded, you don't want to drop a water. That
should be a song that is a pregame show for
the big noon kickoff and for I always walk up music.
Living in the Ash, That's what it should be called. Yeah, man,
living in the Ash, Living in the Ash. I'm living
in the Ash. I'm living in the edgh Is that
(05:09):
just an Aerosmith song? It is? I stole it? Oh man?
All right, so I we have Smith, my bad. We
do have a a major update. This is a huge,
huge update on a quarterback situation in the NFL. So
(05:31):
a lot of people have been trying as big as Julio,
like a huge update for me, that was was it
was an update? For you? What it was? It definitely was.
You know, Eddie could have helped you. Eddie could have
mentioned it. Maybe I'm made sense too, but he could have. Yeah,
why did you mentioned could Eddie could have chimed in
(05:52):
like too? So LaVar too soon? LaVar LaVar no no no, no,
not geta And Eddie is supposed to be your person too?
Is my person? I don't. I don't think Roberto had
my microphone on. I don't. I think that's that's what
it is. Roberto was wanting to laugh at me singing
Coulio song the way that I was knowing it was
too soon. Thanks Thanks Berto. Well listen, you know it happens,
(06:16):
I mean live radio. I mean, what do you want
so right? You know, we could do one of these
podcasts and just to you know, try and make it
perfect afterwards, or we could you know, have the balls
to stand up live, you know, turn our show it
out podcast after Yeah, they do, but not in real time,
real time for those don't you delete certain portions where
like you lose bets and different things. I mean, listen,
(06:38):
deletes malete you know who cares. I mean, you know
some people can make accusations all they want. I mean,
to me, I think everything is done on one take
and we don't have any mistakes here on this show.
So that's the way. That's why I'd like to think
about things. But um, Brian Hoyer is going to be
your starting quarterback for the New England Patriots. Huge update,
Huge update for the Patriots. But the best part of
(07:00):
the conversation about part the quarterback situation in New England
was Bill Belichick having to answer questions from the media
yesterday who wanted to just know the extent of mac
Jones injury. And so here was Coach Belichick about days
getting better. Say how goes day by day? Does he
have a high ankles brain? Day by day? What do
(07:22):
I look like? A doctor? An orthopedic surgeon? Like? I
don't know. Talk to the medical experts. What are the
medical experts on staffs that day by day we'll evaluate him, David,
I mean what diverses make to make? What do you
think I'm gonna read m R. I That's not my job.
(07:43):
So it's there and they talking about it, right, Yeah,
stay by day, it's getting better. Day by day. We'll
see see what it is tomorrow. It's a lot better
than what's yesterday. See what it is. I can't get
it up of it. I think it's hilarious. It's literally
turned into a game with him. He refuses to crack
(08:04):
when it comes to giving information to the media. Refuses
to And they sit there and I think they're all
in on it, and they try and find different ways
to trip him up, and he refuses to play along
with it because ultimately none of it matters. Whatever he says,
He's not going to give out a bunch of information
he doesn't want to give out with It doesn't matter,
so he's just gonna keep playing the game. I love it,
(08:24):
and I don't think there's also an element to it
that I mean, he really doesn't know. I mean mac
Jones could come back a week before they thought, or
a week after. I mean, at this point, like what
does it matter, you know, like it's it's not going
to change week by week, day by day. Everyone to
look at it, right about it. But that's that's the
(08:45):
reality of it. So I just it is interesting, like
he once he goes that route, I don't know that
there's any point in continuing to follow up on that
specific subject if you're a reporter. I mean, maybe it's
for their own enjoyment and what it's So I just
think it's I think it's hilarious and and he just
(09:05):
stands up there because I don't. I don't believe for
one second that he's as big of a curmudgeon as
everybody makes him out to be. I do. It's the
same with Saban. I find it hard to believe that
these guys are the standoffish guys that they are to
the media. Otherwise, why Saban able to land the recruiting
class that he does and the players love him. Why
(09:26):
is Belichick able to get guys to want to play
for him for all these years? I just find it
hard to believe that what they portray in front of
the media is anything close to what they actually are
in the locker room. I just was recruited best saban
and and I actually um ran into Belichick in Annapolis
when I was living in an Annapolis. You know, he's
from that area. Good guys, Um I would Belichick would
(09:52):
I would say Belichick is still kind of he's he's
kind of um I would, I would say, I guess
I felt it was more like actually awkward, like like
just doesn't want to he just doesn't want to do
all of that. So it's like, hey, how you doing. Yeah.
I was like hey LaVar Arrington. He's like, yeah, I
know who you are. He's like, you know, good to
see you. Have a good one. And that was it,
(10:14):
you know what I mean, Like we didn't have like
he was not inviting a conversation, which I wasn't either,
you know what I mean. Like it was like we
exchanged a pleasantry, we acknowledged one another, and we kept
it moving, but it didn't seem like he you know,
it was literally he's keeping it moving, like he's not
gonna stop and be like, oh, hey, how you doing,
Like you know, how's everything I heard you lived here
(10:36):
or whatever? Like you know, I had heard a lot
about him being there, you know when I lived there
because of his dad or whatever. But um, but I
would say with with Saban, Saban was like super charismatic.
You know, him and his wife, UM took took us
out to to eat and when he was in Miami
(10:57):
and we had a you know, we had a great time.
And he's you know, he's you know, Saban has that
that a AU basketball coach field to him. But it's
not over the top. He's not over selling, but he's selling.
You could get you could get you get the feeling
that he's selling you, but it's not over the top.
(11:18):
It's like, I'm Nick Saban. You know, it's like you
should want to play for me. And you know this
is like he talked about family, um, family environment, family
driven the way he does things. So I wouldn't say
he's he's like you know what people think he is
as as it applies to the media. Um, I didn't
(11:38):
get enough of a sample size to really really go
to in depth about Belichick. I mean it sounds like
you know him that a little bit better, Q, but
it just he seemed like he was okay with acknowledging,
you know, hey, you know, hey, how you doing, Hey,
how you doing? But that was that's it, that's good, Like,
that's it. Let's move on from it, which I have
no problem with that. Would you want your son's playing
(11:59):
for Nick Saban? Of course, yeah, I just I would't
want to play for Nick Saban. I would want to
play for Bill Belichick. Yeah. I had always like coaches
like that though, Like my favorite coaches were Marty Sottenheimer
and Tom Coughlin when I was in the league, So
you know, I just always liked that type of coach.
(12:20):
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(13:04):
you again twenty minutes from now on Fox Sports Radio.
But right now we turn it over to the one
and only Albert Brier. He is a senior NFL reporter
at the mm QB. You can get him on Twitter
at Albert Brier. He is always kind enough to join
us here every single Thursday. Albert, what the hell is happening?
How's your Thursday? I mean, we've even worked on hiring
(13:27):
a band special to this show because we wanted to
make sure we had your entrance music ready for you.
So here we go. There it is, Albert. This is
the kind of red car back YEP. I had nothing
to do. Freddy Freddie having have an update on his
Wolverine for me freddy nd. I mean they're they're undefeated
(13:51):
right now. They're they're they're they're like heating your direction.
They're they're they're getting ready for that match up in Columbus. Yeah,
a little uh, a little more difficult way. You're not
playing against air anymore. I mean outside of Notre Dame,
which you've even admitted it wasn't even as tough of
a matchup. Who is who? I appreciate that. I appreciate
(14:14):
to show you guys put on a Saturday a little better. Yeah,
but I'm just saying, like who was played? Wisconsin? Wisconsin,
right because they're a powerhouse in the Big ten West,
because like Minnesota is not better right now, or even
Iowa for that matter, or whoever else. So, yeahs always
(14:36):
it was over quick. It was it was it was
over fast. It was over quick. You know. I didn't
like that at all, Albert, So can you answer the
question that everybody is trying to figure out. We've been
talking about it for a couple of days here, what
the hell was going on with to did he have
a concussion? They're saying it looks like they everything's on
(14:59):
the up and up from people you've talked to what's
going on with this? Well, I think there are a
couple of things like that are important here. First of all, um,
you know, I think the the NFL, the Dolphins probably
botched the front end of this um And what I
mean by that is when he went in and I
think everybody saw his head bounce off the turf and
(15:21):
then the way he stumbled to the ground. They first
said he was being evaluated for a head injury and
he did have a concussion test that when he went
back there. The problem is then they made it sound
like that had nothing to do why with why he
went back there, which I have no idea why they
did that, Like that part of it didn't make any
sense to me. Became a concussion test, just say he
(15:44):
gave him a concussion test and he passed it. Um.
So like, I think they totally botched that part of it.
The second part of it, which I think is also relevant,
is I mean, look, guys, it would take a lot
of guys being complicit, a lot of people being bless
it for them to still be covering this thing up.
Like if he wasn't in the concussion protocol and he
(16:07):
really had one, then that would take the league office,
the independent concussion spot or the Dolphins staff to himself,
Like a lot of people would have to be in
on this for it to be a cover up. So
do I think the Dolphins in the league botch the
front end of it. Absolutely, and they deserve a ton
of skepticism for the way that they've handled concussions over
(16:30):
the years. But you know, as far as like whether
or not he had a concussion, I do think like
the second part of this, I just think it's far
fetched to believe that that many people would be in
on perpetuating this sort of lie over the course of
a week. I don't know, it's weird. I apologize that
(16:51):
I got some weird trailer break system alert on my
car so I may have to pull over here. But
you were you trailering something recently, not since the summer,
so this is really weird. Yeah, we have got bike
one of those bike racks for the back of our
back of our tahoe, so we have that on here sometimes.
But it's weird, Like, I don't know what's going on there?
(17:13):
Is it? Maybe you're not wearing your seat belt. I
have my seatbelt. I'll send you get the picture of
me in my seat. Yeah, maybe that sensor. Maybe that
sensor is a Michigan installed sensor. Albert, Albert clicking or ticket.
You come on, you know the rules, all right, it's
all over the place here. You've gotta be smarter at
this free you know what I mean? Yeah, you're free
(17:35):
right now. Or that's a pacemaker or some sort. I
do appreciate our visits with Albert are exclusive to any vehicle,
he said. Like it's always It's always gonna be in
whatever car, he said, whether they're at home anyone else.
He's gonna be driving around. He's gotta find a way.
Where you headed right now? Where were you driving to Albert?
I'm heading I'm going to get some coffee, and uh,
(17:57):
my kids like muffins in the morning, so I'm going
to get muffins. I pulled over just so the alert
to stop. If it if it keeps going, then I'll
actually get out physically, get out of the car. Anything,
anything for anything for the show guys. So they like
muffins more than doughnuts either, not a doughnut eaters and
prefer the muffins. And well one of them, one of
(18:18):
one of them likes donuts. Muffins are marginally healthier, I think,
so we go with muffins in the morning. Very good.
How about that something new every day. I think that
pretty much does it. For today's interview with Albert, I
want to talk a little bit about UM, just Zach
Wilson coming back for the New York Jets. I believe
(18:39):
he's on on schedule, on pace to get there. I
mean at this point, if the Jets continue on in
the manner, is that is there a hot seed there
in New York for Robert Salo. I know he's keeping
receipts and all that. I'm just more curious if things
don't go the way obviously they're anticipating them going, is
there a hot sea form or they gonna give him
(19:00):
a little more time to be patient with him. Well,
I think you have to look at this sort of globally, Brady,
where Joe Douglas is now in his fourth season as
the general manager. Robert Salo was his handpicked head coach,
and you know, like Joe, you have to look at
the areas and which he invested, Right, So they've invested
a ton in the offensive line. UM, a couple of
(19:22):
first round picks, a couple of big free agent contracts.
That area is still doesn't look like it's come together.
They've invested money in the pass rushes, the pass rush
where it's supposed to be, and now of course they've
invested the second overall picking the quarterback. And so you know,
I think part of the evaluation is where the GM
is now in his fourth year in charge and after
(19:44):
having run three drafts, and if the GM is on notice,
then the question becomes do you force the head coach
on the next general manager, whoever that is? And to me,
like that's I think that's the operative question here. God,
I'm sorry, guys, I'm gonna get out of hard. Yeah,
you're going a curse right there? Where an't you come on?
(20:06):
Let it fly? Albert, come on, by the way, this
is winter. If this is wintertime, not not a shot
in hell he's getting out of the car to do
this interview. He would just hang up on us. I
mean it'd be a little bit chilly. Yeah, I'm sure
it's nice get nice and brisk on the East coast
right now, but then again it's still nice weather. Yeah. Yeah,
(20:29):
is Albert there? You know, I think he's I think
he's adjusting. He hit mute while he was getting out
of the proper. He's pissed. I'm out of the color
out you guys, hear me? Yeah? Got you now? All right?
My next all right? So so so let me I'll
finish my jet tip no worse, I will finish my
(20:49):
jet's answer, the question becomes that the general manager is
now unnoticed, then do you forced the head coach on
a new general manager? So I think those are the
decisions that are happening made. I think at the very least,
subjects need to show progress in Zach Wilson needs to
show some promise by the end of the year to
keep any of that discussion from happening. Mhmm uh. In Denver, Uh,
(21:15):
it's interesting. I saw a funny little little deal. I
don't know if it was Cue or Jonas or who. Okay,
I thought it was so interesting that Elijah Elijah Manning
took a nice little swipe at the Denver Broncos and Russ,
saying they should have spent that money on a kicker
(21:35):
Um instead of on or Russ. Russ responded by saying that,
well he's owing two or he's too a no against
Uh what's his name? Something powers I believe his name
powers Yeah, yeah, State, Penn State try out, Yeah right. Um.
(21:56):
I'm just curious, is there is there any type of
umblings of Buyer's remorse at this point or is it
still you know, positive feeling. I think it's very too
early for that, LaVar, but I do think that there's
something to watch there and that, you know, I think
this is what Russell always wanted, you know what I mean, like,
which is um I felt. I think he felt like
(22:18):
in Seattle, um they played him in a way that
limited him and like that he could be a Brady
manning Field general, like that sort of player, and the
way that they deployed him was almost as like an
option quarterback, where his legs were a big part of
the equation. And I think you can see that in
the way that they played him the first three weeks
(22:38):
of the season, and you can see the Broncos sort
of going all in on that. You can also see
I think the awkwardness of it, and Nathaniel Hackins and
Russell and everybody else they're trying to figure it out.
And I think all along this was gonna take time.
I don't know for sure that he's never gonna get
there because I know there were a lot of people
in Seattle who felt like Russell really wasn't that type
(23:00):
of quarterback and that playing him that way wouldn't work,
and that you know, the one season that they tried
to do that with Brian Schottenheimer's the offensive coordinator, it
didn't work. And so you know, I think that that's
going to be the question is it's how Russell sees himself,
how forceful he is about trying to you know, be
(23:21):
able to play that way, um, and how tolerant the
Broncos are to it, um and again, like maybe it
works out, you know, but I think this thing was
always going to take time, and I think that's something
to hack it, and Russell been shipping away at over
the course of the last six months and um and
and yeah, I mean I think the hope is that
you get to November December and it starts to click.
(23:43):
But you know, certainly hasn't looked great. And I think
one thing I know a couple of coaches noticed at
the end of that game against the Niners was how
all of a sudden Russell look pulling the rip court
and running a little bit more at the end of
the game, and you sort of wonder if that's because
some of the things that they're doing aren't really work
for him. Albert Bridge joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him
(24:05):
on Twitter at Albert Brier. This is two pros and
a cup of Joe on fs ARE. So let me
ask you this about the Jacksonville Jaguars From people you
talked to, what is the sense you get in conversations
about whether or not this team is for real and
potentially a playoff team right now? Well, I think it
starts with Trevor Lawrence. Is who everybody thought Trevor Lawrence was,
(24:26):
you know what I mean? And um, you know, I
I know that there were some questions on him last year,
and I think the primary question was does he see
it fast enough? Right? And I know, like having talked
to some you know, scouts, some gms, some coaches who
evaluated him, Um, in the last couple of years in Clemson,
they felt like next War. They mass like the offensive
(24:49):
Clemson was pretty simple, and he didn't process as fast
or see the field as well as maybe they thought
he would coming into the NFL. I think what Doug
p Gerson's effectively done is makes the offense work for him,
or maybe that wasn't happened in him last year under
urban Meyer and Jacksonville Um, Doug Peterson is doing things
(25:10):
to make things simpler and easier on him so he
could play faster. And I think now you're seeing where
everybody thought he was a generational down coming out. So
I think that's where it starts, is sort of the
investment that they've made in the quarterback with Doug Peterson
and what Doug has been able to do for Trevor
to get him playing faster. And then I think once
you get past that point, like it's sort of all
(25:32):
from there, like that's not the terrible roster, you know,
it's you know, Chicago is not a very good roster
right now. Atlanta is not a very good roster right now.
I think most people would tell you, most people need everything,
would tell you Jackson have got a better roster than
those teams do. And you know, I think a huge
part of this was sort of getting the quarterback going,
you know, and and Doug coming in and doing the
(25:54):
same thing he didn't Billy Carson with Carson Wentz at
the beginning, which was putting a lot of quarterbacks, like
you prastruction around him and bringing in quarterback guys like
Fresh Taylor and Mike McCoy and uh and Jim Bob Cooner.
I think it's really really helped and getting Trevor where
he needs to be in year two, Albert, I want
to ask you about the Saints. Obviously things haven't gone
(26:15):
quite the way they had hoped this year. Um, obviously
you know Jamis Winston, he's banged up, may or may
not play in London? Is there a little bit of
a thought too, like that quick transition from Sean Payne
stepping away to Dennis Allen and just everything right now
is all up in the air and moving forward like
that's just seems to be a place that it's too
talented roster, too good of a defense and and maybe
(26:36):
unfortunately Dennis Allend is not gonna work or this offense
is just it's it's really it's missing its biggest pieces.
For maybe what Sean Payton has a play caller. Yeah,
it's gonna be interesting to see because I mean if
you look at it, Brady, like there super group is
almost completely revamped from last year. You know, and and
in bringing in Christo Lave and Michael Thomason played all
(26:58):
the last couple of years, so he's back in there
and out and he has barely worked at all the
James before this year Jarvis Landry, so it's a different
group there, and um, you know Pete Carmens the first
time being like that's obviously the um even though he's
been around for twelve years, so I'm not changed there.
(27:18):
I'm gonna be really interested to see what happens if
Jamis doesn't play, because quietly, I can tell you guys,
like the coaches, the staff there, we're really interested with
the training campidate and he Dalton had and so I
can't sure would be really interesting to see he turned
over a bus through three weeks and there's anything I
(27:40):
believe we live right now. I'll be really interested to
see what the offense looks like with Andy Dalton in there,
um A because again he had a really strong summer
for them, and be because he's not gonna, you know,
I go don't there to be any revelation here in
any Dalton's like way more than we ever thought he was.
But I think Andy can at least come in and
(28:00):
give you like league average play at the quarterback position
and maybe unlock some of the weapons around him. And
so you know, I I think that that's going to
be the thing to watch is if we get Sandy
Dalton in there, it's either going to Jamis wants to
as the starting quarterback or maybe service in indictment and
maybe he was the thing holding them back. So um
(28:23):
yeah again, I mean, I don't know if Jamie's gonna
play on Sunday or not, but if he doesn't, I
think maybe we get kind of a view of where
the Sames stand on offense. Um, and you know, I
guess sort of like a comparison and what they look
like with just steady average quarterback playing there. He is
Albert Brier, Senior NiFi reporter at the mm QB. You
(28:45):
can get him on Twitter at Albert Brier, always kind
enough to join us every single Thursday. Nothing's gonna stop
him from making this hit. Not an a long not
not a bike rack on the back of the car,
not not not a muffin hunt. Nothing is going to
stop him from doing this show. And we appreciate it. Alberts,
get those muffins. Yeah, I made it happen today. So
(29:07):
you guys are welcome. You guys are welcome. Thank you
Albert Brier again, always a good time catching up with him.
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that's that's like that man, that's that's like that's that's
like intense. It's like calmly intense. Oh wow, thanks for
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So we're talking to Albert Brier a few minutes ago,
(32:04):
and there was all sorts of stuff that was going on.
I mean, he was looking for muffins, He had some
coffee alarms going off. I didn't understand what he was
saying though, with the alarm that it was he had
some like bike rack on the back and that he
was told sensor okay, yeah, it's like if something gets
(32:24):
too close to you that the sensor will go off. Yeah.
So I mean apparently apparently whatever he had on the
back of the truck it was setting the censor off.
It was truck nuts, It could have been yeah, I mean,
if they're big enough. Yeah. Um, alright. So the reason we, uh,
(32:45):
we bring that up is because LaVar you asked him about,
you know, just sort of the situation in Denver buyer's
remorse and uh this U this leads into this next
discussion because on the Manning cast on Monday Night Football,
just that I mean just that eight great, great cast
that they put on that I've I've never watched. Eli
(33:05):
Manning was apparently cracking a couple of jokes and the
expense of Russell Wilson, and here's what he had to
say about the new Broncos quarterback. They should have paid
that punter two insull so that in reference to the
amount of times that they've punted there. And so of
course that made the rounds. It made the rounds, and
(33:25):
we just identify first the awkward nous of that, like
Peyton Man who lives in Denver and has been in
the Broncos facility and meeting with with Russell, and so
it's one of those where Eli is kind of taking
the shot, you know, saying that. But there's got to
be some some in depth of knowledge, oh yeah, as
(33:45):
to what's happening behind the scenes. That maybe he's getting
from Peyton that was calculated. Yeah, so Russell Wilson was
asked about it, of course, and uh, it was great
for him to take time away from TikTok videos promoting
subway to go ahead and hugging to go ahead and
uh and answer back to the question in reference to
(34:05):
the joke made by Eli Manning about the amount of
money they paid him slash the punter, slash whatever. Here
was the new Broncos quarterback powers. Um, yeah, you know
Chet Powers. You don't, Um, I'm three and against Chet Powers.
You It's part of the game, and we're just having guys,
having fun, you know, and everything else. I have a
lot of respect for Peyton an Eli and those guys. Guys.
(34:25):
I mean, you know, I've always looked up to those guys.
I'm not I'm not stressing about. See, he screwed up.
He screwed up. He should have just left it with
I'm three and O against Chad Powers because you know
what he's doing, right, He's yeah, he's pulling it out
and saying, you know what, we played three times and
I beat you all three times. And secondly, now you're
(34:46):
doing caricatures at Penn State while I'm out here making
millions upon millions of dollars. I've got a Super Bowl too,
and I'm still playing in the league while you're doing
bad comedy sketches up at Penn State and doing some
some crummy Monday night show an alternative broadcast, thinking people
still didn't hire Joe Buck and Troy Aikman to make
the broadcast better on the other channel. Good for Russell
(35:09):
Wilson unfortunately carried on and turned into a kiss ass again.
He screwed up, And I actually think I actually liked
what he did because it was on brand for him,
you know, as far as like he came out like
throw that overhand, reiight down, down, goes Manning, and it's
like he kind of took a shot and then helped
him back up. Uh yeah, but that's that's him, Like
(35:29):
that's genuinely him how he would handle it. So I
actually I didn't have an issue with it. I think
it was uh you know, it's interesting that it got
brought up because it kind of seems out of left field,
Like there's a lot of other things you could talk
about in the course of the press conference. You know
the fact that like that guy brought up almost leads
(35:50):
me to think that someone tips someone off to ask
him about it so he can make that That's why
I asked Albert that, like, the Mannings are super intelligent,
bright dudes, and their wit and their humor comes from
real places. So so the idea of of Eli taking
that swipe, I almost feel like, like you said, like
(36:13):
maybe somebody says something to Peyton or somebody. You know,
they might run the same circles, yet they seem like
they're close enough where they may talk to the same
people or know somebody who's closer to the situation, and
it's like, Okay, they should have spent that money on
a kicker, Like wow, you're taking you're taking a shot
at at the guy they just paid all that money to.
(36:35):
And and to me, it's like, all right, is somebody
having buyer's remorse in the Denver Bronco organization John Lynch,
Maybe I don't, I don't know or not John Lynch,
h John Elway, excuse me? Um? Is somebody having uh
buyer's remorse moment where it's like, man, we we paid
all this money for this. Like it's almost like somebody
(36:55):
said we paid for this. This is what we paid for,
this is what we're getting like and and he put
it out there like he put it out there, and
it was comical and it was within the parameters of
what the show was. But was there some truth to that?
Did that come from a place of where somebody gave
that truth? Like man like we overspace, we overpaid for
(37:19):
this guy. So you so that happens or I don't
know if it happens, but you're thinking, Brady, that somebody
planted the question there so he could respond and have
a chance to address it. That's more what I was
alluding to is that it was more of like someone
you know, obviously they were aware of of everything that's
that happens that's out there nowadays, and so it seemed
(37:40):
like it was a setup. Um And I mean, look,
he was ready right like he was ready to pounce
on that question and answer with that response. I just
look at the reality is he knew it's three and
no off the top of his head too, didn't It
was saying I knew his stab most and then everything.
Most people would have to go back like yeah, I
(38:00):
think so, like I would have been more I would
have remembered my my record verse Peyton more so than
my record versus Eli. By the way, I'm oh for
versus Payton alone, Power, let alone the Powers guy. Yeah, Powers,
Like it was just kind of one of those where
you kind of felt like maybe there was some extra
(38:20):
motivation behind who was asking the question the first place,
so Russell could get that comment out. But like I said,
you didn't like the fact that he was passive aggressive.
But that's like the most hypocritical thing because you're the
most passive aggressive person, Joe. I didn't like the fact
that he continued on. He should have just stuck the
landing with him three and oh against Chad Powers and
let everybody know this guy is doing bad comedy while
(38:41):
I'm still playing football making millions. But again, he had
to turn into a kiss ass at the end. That's
what part of bothered me. That's what it irritates me
about it. He had a chance there get a little
bit of his edge back, he lost it. I think
that's more of like what you wanted for him, but
that's not him. Yeah, you're right. Listen, Well, finally you
(39:01):
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