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Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks. Coming up on this
Football Friday, we are going to get into the chaos
that ensued last night in Cincinnati to a tongue of iloa.
Another head injury or was it another? Did he even
have a previous one? We're going to discuss that. Dr
David Chow is gonna stop by to try and help
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clear up some of the confusion and misinformation that's out there.
We're also gonna take a look ahead to a busy
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Got another edition of In case you missed it, We
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Yeah yeah, hold on, hold on, we got sticks. Brady
Quinn in Iowa City getting ready for a big, big
ten tilt between the Wolverines and the Iowa Hawk Eyes.
Have you run an idiot silt if you're run in
any of those Iowa offensive linemen that are like six seven,
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eight hundred pounds that you guys talked about last year,
and no until too early in the morning, and and
and I would say their offensive line. The Weathery're playing
this year is not as intimidating as as what LaVar
witness last year. So yeah, yeah, well that was not
the not the same but kicking group. So this this
group's leaving much to be desired right now in the
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Iowa offense. Um. So uh so let's get to the
I mean this is uh, this was an awkward moment
last night, I think for everybody involved. Scary moment last
night for everybody involved. I mean, congrats to the Cincinnati
Bengals who win the game last night, fifteen the final.
Cincinnati now finds themselves back at five hundred and there's
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a lot of discussion about where Cincinnati goes from here.
But of course, the play and the moment everybody is
talking about is the second quarter before halftime to a
tucko boy Loa is brought down, hits his head on
the turf, freezes up. You can see his fingers crossed.
Um just basically just sort of froze up there on
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the field. Scary situation. They bring out the stretcher, Uh,
they take him off. He's they say it's a you know,
neck and head injuries. Everybody's a little shook. Everybody's a
little rattled. And it goes back to something that we
talked about on the show yesterday and when we said, look,
there's a certain like when you get concussed, you're more susceptible,
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and you guys said it yesterday on the show, you're
more susceptible to having it happen again, like especially immediately afterwards.
And we brought up the point that like if a
boxer or an m M A fighter gets knocked out,
you cannot even train or spar for sixty or ninety days.
You're just not allowed to. And whatever happened to to
on Sunday, they look like he got his bell rung
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at the very least, and there he is out four
days later, and Brady, it didn't look anywhere close to
the contact he took in Sunday's game. And to get
that sort of a reaction, I think that's where the
concern comes in, and I think that's where a lot
of the outrage comes in. And that's where I felt
for him. And just to give my my own personal experience,
I had a concussion uh the end of two thousand
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and twelve preseason, and going into Week one, I didn't
want to be not you know, not active. You know,
I chose to go to Kansas City that year, hopefully
with a chance to play. So I said, hey, let's
just mark it down as a neck injury and that
way I can get through and I don't have to
deal with the protocol. And sure enough, you know, later
on that season, when I didn't get my shot to
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get my opportunity, I end up getting concussion versus at
that time, the Oakland Raiders, and there's a few hits
that they feel like kind of added up to it
or or would have been the culprits of the of
the second concussion. But I remember thinking back and that
was a worse concussion and was out much longer after that,
and I remember thinking back to all of it, like
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was it worth it? And I know people listening right
now are probably thinking, well, you know, two had a
back injury, that's what it was. I'm sorry, I have
a hard time believing this hit and he sustained versus
the Buffalo Bills, and that injury was a back injury.
And I'm someone who's had back injuries and has had
back surgery, and we'll have to have more back surgery
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that that to me was not a back injury. That
was a concussion. And last night that was an instance
of a player who I didn't think to your point
that hit was as vicious and it was. It was
tough to watch that it really was. And you know, look,
I know he's clear to he traveled back with a
team last night. UM. That very similar to him clearing
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the concussion protocol. He seemed to clear that up pretty quick. So, UM,
it's just it's tough. It's it's it's tough to witness,
it's tough to um you know, ultimately makes sense of
but at the end of the day, you know, toois
in control of of how this whole thing goes to.
And if he you know, if you wanted to play,
who wanted to be out there put himself a potential
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harms away, that's on him too, and and he just
has to be accountable for it. It's a it's a
very very tough situation. The complexities of it, you know,
they are they are very pronounced. We did see him stumble,
we we did see him hit his head similar to
what happened last evening. UM, in the last game. But
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I will also I will also offer again I said yesterday.
I'm not I'm not a scientist and I'm not a doctor.
There could be the possibility that the blow was the
blow that that gave him that can cuss him last
evening like that, That is, there is the possibility that
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that is the possibility. And and so while I look
at it and I'm not saying it's because I I
don't believe that there was a correlation, but I will
also offer the idea that there is the possibility that
that blow, I mean, he did hit the back of
his head off of the ground flush on on that play,
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that that he did get slammed down into the ground
and hit his head off of the ground, and and
that those are the type of blows that cause concussions.
Now granted that was the same exact way his head
hit the ground last you know, last game. So is
there a correlation? I you know, for me, I say, hell, yeah,
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there's a correlation. And and and it again I said
it very you know, very clearly, they should have just
said that there was the possibility that that too have
had a concussion in last week's game. That was why
he had to go through concussion protocol. Now, whatever the
severity of in the nature of what it was that
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he you know that he he had that you know,
I don't know that that's something that they have to divulge,
but it just is a bad look if you don't
address it the way that it needed to be addressed with,
with sincerity and with with transparency from last week, it
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it just comes out and it looks as though playing
the game, being a part of the game was more
important than to his health too, to the staff that
that examined him, to the coaches that allowed him to play,
to t a that played in the game, and and
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so to me, it's a bad look. That's what it is.
Optically speaking, whether it was a correlation or it was
just indeed that one singular blow that created and caused
the the concussion, I just don't think that the coincidence
of it happening and happening the way that it did
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in that game, Um, there's no way of there's really
It makes it very difficult to escape the culpability of
what took place in the last game. Can we can
we look at it this way, like, what was the
worst possible thing that could have happened for two uh
in Miami last night? Not obviously the loss and all that.
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You know, everyone understands that that play was the wor
that how that how that actually the entire thing that happened.
I mean, not even that he just suffered a concussion,
but the fact that he's laying there, it looks awful.
It's like that he's getting carded. I mean not carded.
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I mean he's getting wheeled off the field in a
neck brace. I mean it's it's it's everyone's kind of
sitting there saying, I told you so, I told you so,
I told you so. I'm that's that's the narrative now,
is he should have never been there in the first place.
Let me ask you guys this because in just in
dovetailing off what we talked about, in just the your
susceptibility to having it happen again when you saw him
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laying there on the field, were you surprised because I wasn't.
Because if you if you believe he had his bell
rung last game and he's back four days later, I
kind of and I don't want to like say that
we were speaking in new existence. I think that's why
the topic got brought up yesterday, Like, man, this is
going to play out on a national stage, and if
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you're susceptible to having it happen again, especially this quick
of a turnaround. I wasn't surprised that it happened, because
I don't think it takes a doctor to recognize somebody
was dinged and got their bell runged a little bit
last game. And the question then becomes, so, how the
hell was he allowed back out there? And I think
it's not just everyone says, well, people should lose jobs
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and uh and people should be fined and fire heard
and and all the other punishments that are going out.
Isn't it also on TA to be honest with them
about where he stands. And I know he's a warrior
and he's you know, he wants to get out there
and playing. He's dealt with injuries in the past. But
isn't part of this on to it to be as
brutally honest with the physician and the people checking him out,
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Like when when you're talking to your doctor's brady, did
you look back afterwards and say, Hey, I needed to
be more upfront about how I was actually feeling instead
of trying to just push through it. Because the now
I'm dealing with bigger issues moving forward. Yeah, I mean
it's part of it. I had a really bad one
in college where I mean, I look, I was hospitalized
for it. I remember vividly waking up in the hospital,
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or at least becoming conscious is how I'll put it.
And my dad was right by my side, and look
at my Dad's like. I started asking these questions and
he's like, hey, do you remember the three words or
four words you're supposed to remember? And I said, no,
what aren't they? And he told him to me. And
then the nurse came in and she asked the same thing,
and I told him. She's like, okay, we're making some progress.
And I was like, hey, can I get the phone?
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I call mom? Can I can I call my girlfriend?
And he's he's kind of shook his head. He goes,
I don't think that's a good idea. I'm like, what
do you mean. He's like, you have been calling them?
And I go, I don't understand. He goes, he goes,
you've been doing this for the past five hours. He goes.
Every single time you'd go through this episode, and I
was like it was like a record that was skipping
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and I would just keep repeating the same thing, same thing,
and I kind of laid back down and pass out
and same thing, same thing. I couldn't get out of this,
like same repetitive waking up, asking questions, talking to my mom,
my girlfriend, not remembering any of it, and literally passing
back out, waking back up and doing it again. And
I remember the next week I never should have been playing,
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but I played the phone week we're playing in the
Medlands versus I think it was Navy, and I just
remember being out there in the field and everything like
moving too fast, and think to myself, I probably should
have said something to someone, but like I have to
be accountable before you know my play and what happens.
And I didn't play great that game. But I also
think I was a little extra, you know, conservative with
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what I was putting myself, you know, in as far
as Harm's way. I go back to that play that
he got hurt, and it was kind of like a
boot where he kind of got out in space and
he had plenty of time to scramble up, get down,
throw the football away, and insteady he almost tried to
like extend it further. And I kind of go back
and think to myself like, that's one of those instances
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where if it was me, like I would part of
me would be like, if I'm gonna put myself in
this situation, I better be able to take care of
myself and these instances and not put myself in harm's way.
And it was almost the way he played in that game,
or that particular play too, that helped lead to this.
Aside from what happened on Sunday. God, that's just a
absolutely and your point worst possible scenario played out last night.
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There could not have been a worst situation for the
Domes laying on the ground phone of gang signs to
hold on, hold on, you got LaVar. LaVar is the
one he's talking about Coolio yesterday. Oh my gosh, I'll
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look at you bringing up old stuff. I was totally
oblivious the fact that Julio, God Rest, his soul, had
just passed away. I had no idea. I was just
wanting to sing Gangsters Paradise and there we go, there
we go that. I was just totally having a good
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time with playing around with the song. I had no
idea that the home he had passed on you work
deep into it so much. I don't want to say anything.
You totally you totally stole my my, my, my happiness
in the moment. Yeah, it's all right, say something that
played out on the National Airway and then and then
the nerve of you to use it against me today. Yeah,
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after talking about a game signs to a game, signs
like there's all kinds of correlations here. Man to and
the Dolphins may have lost last night, but I know
someone who is a big winner. Yeah yeah, little min
score and a half action yeah, LaVar, yeah, yeah, thank you. Now,
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Now what was the final score? And who are you playing?
Because I want to be able to look up with
the odds, were to see why they're not people cash
shouts out to Los Altos. Uh, you know conquerors. Um
we beat them thirty thirty four to three, I believe boom.
Yeah that's not that's not the LOSU team. No, not
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not low sou No, No, it's a different loss. That's different. Yea,
not they used to you know, Uh Cody sewn Cody
played there. When did they get their three points? Was
it towards did they pull Jerry Glanville they were with
no time left. Everybody finds a way to run against
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my defense. Everybody runs like one kid last week rand
for two d yards. God for week one week one
a kid ran for for almost three hundred yards against
us as well. Um wing ties are son of a bitch.
That like, that's one thing what people run. That's it's
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one by the way, hold on, hold on? Is that
is that their only offense? They're just running a because
that's the case. That's not that much. That's not that
much yard because they get like one yard, they get
like one yard of passing. Are your d lineman? Yeah,
ankles chewed up LaVar? Are they just getting caught the
they're not getting chopped the entire game. And that's the
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problem we've we've been or grossly. They're sized up front.
We are not a big football team up front. We're
not a big team in the alignement category. So what
happens is even last night we weren't playing we were
playing a conventional offense last night. But because our film
shows that you have the opportunity to run the ball
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against us, they came out and they had a great
scheme to cut off our cut off our tackle, um,
cut off our end and get down into that gap. Yeah,
and and and access to edge problem is that what
these guys are running into against our defenses and they
have to understand that I embrace it. So it works
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out to our advantage is if you continue to do
the same exact play and you're having success, we're eventually
able to adjust to what it is that you're doing
and we stop you. Now, we might not have stopped
you for thirty forty fifty yards sixty yards on on
a drive, but at some point during the drive we're
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able to adjust enough to what it is that they're
doing where we stop them. And then now we start
stopping them as we go. And then once we get
the halftime, if you haven't, if you haven't been able
to deal with us and get like a big time,
a big time lead against us by halftime, For one,
our offense is too explosive. And then two, um, we
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make the adjustments on defense. And once we make the adjustments,
then we generally you know, we we've kept guys off
the board. So it's like, Okay, this kid ran for
two one yards, but they scored seven points in the
first quarter. We kept them off the board pretty much.
They scored seven points in the second quarter. We pretty
much kept them off the board, we got the halftime,
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we made adjustments, we shut them out in the third quarter,
and then later on and into the fourth quarter they
scored another touchdown, making it twenty one points as to
night they only got a field goal. You know, the
kid probably ran for a hundred He broke a hundred
yards of rushing on us. One kid had a great game. Um.
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Shots out to those coaches and that coaching staff had
a great game plan for for our defense. But we
don't let anybody really in the end zone. So it's
kind of like, you know, it pisces me off to
sit there and have to say a kid ran for
over two hundred yards twice against our defense this year.
But at the same time, our guys step up and
they show the ability to the reprieve to be able
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to stop them from doing what the game is ultimately about,
which is getting across the goal line. They don't really
do it too often. So it shouts out to my
guys too, because they figure it out and you know,
we're pretty good. And also shouts out to everybody who
had Los Altos plus thirty two and a half, big
time win for them. For you degenerates out there, is
that what it was I don't know. I just made
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that up idea because I I tell we pulled off.
We we definitely pulled off. We pulled off well U
b y you not covering last time? That was John.
I was watching about back up third and nine. They're
running the football, like what are we doing? It's it's
a tie ball game right now, and I can't get
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Clonie Sataki to get his staff to throw the football
on third and nine with Jared Hall, by the way,
who's a really good quarterback at the college level. By
the way, I got a tweet that they did play
Mr Brightside at the b y U game. So shout
out to uh, you know, a little Mormon love there,
you know, given a little love there to b y U.
It's not just guess what it may It may have
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helped you to a twelve point victory, but the line
was twenty six points. You play a better song, Yeah,
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get involved with these these songs anymore. I'll be than that.
We've been like yeah, yeah, and then you'll be like
one of them died, yeah, well he did. Lane Stanley
died years ago. Okay, it's it's not too soon. Yeah,
it's not too soon. Not too son, Yeah, long time ago.
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Do you know what he said there, LaVar? No what
but I'm acknowed. Uh, it's a man in the box.
You know, I don't know what that means a lot
of ways to think that. I I, for one, I
am a man that enjoys being in the box. But
you know what, we all have different meanings and expectations
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for that statement. Yeah, football term safety, you know what? Box?
There you go? Not mine, not my definition, but I'm
with you is uh two pros and a cup of Joe.
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Errington, Brady Quinn, Jonahs knocks with
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you here at what depends on who's asking? Is that seven?
Was that the name of that movie? Yeah? Yeah's your
wife's head if you needed a quick answer, Yeah, that's
a that's a weird movie. But you know a little
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fun fact on seven. You know, they never tell you
where they're located. There's never any reference to where that's
actually being filmed. It's just always in it's always raining,
and it's always dark and people are just getting mutilated
the entire movie. So good morning to everybody. I never
watched that movie really always wanted to. Yeah, that's like
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that's one of my bucket I know, and everyone talks
about it, and for some reason I never got around
to watching it. Yeah, it's well done, it's it's messed up. Man.
The murderer in the movie is actually a Notre Dame fan,
Like he's actually dressed in full Notre Dame when that's
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not true. True story, man, that's not true spoiler alert.
The actually, the way they identified him is he had
a clover with n D on it on his shoulder
at tattoo killers Fly Yeah, thank Yeah, the South Bend Mutilator,
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the South Ben. I think we're I think we're lying.
Watch for yourself. I know it's crazy. U two pros
and a cup of Joe here on FS, thank you.
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A football can ask you a question. Did Aaron Judge
that he had a sixty second last night? I can't
confirm that. No. I don't believe he did. No, no
sixty second home run for Aaron Judge. But I listen,
how more games does he have? What's he got? Like?
Seven or eight? Is there? Is it? This is this weekend,
the last weekend in baseball? Is that many games Okay,
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so he's got yeah, like like six or seven. I
don't know who cares listen, uh cares? Yeah, I mean,
let's not stir this back up again, all right, looks
about Barry Bonds giant you know, yeah, need some peace
on this show, all right. There was one inaccuracy that
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Burno pointed out though he was saying that Bonds head shrunk.
I was like, that's not how it works. Once you
do the thing I think, and you get a big head,
it doesn't go back down. Burtough this drink though, back
to almost the normal size. Dude, that stuff just stays there.
And let me let me ask you guys a question
because that is funny as hell. Well, let me let
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me ask you question because I think I think this
is the most important aspect of this whole thing. Would
you rather have a head that's too big or a
head that's too small? Like, think about it, because you
could be you could be Barry Bonds, or you could
be Beetlejuice Twiggs. Like I always interpret that, but I
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don't think that there could be a too bad to that.
In fact, if you're asking me, there you go, Berte,
you were with me on that one it's not even
up for debate. I'm trying to have a ginormous, super big,
super bad you know, like if you could put a
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shot glass on your head and cover your eyes. To me,
that's a problem I'd rather have. I'd rather have a
pumpkin on my shoulders then walk around with some tiny head.
That's right, you know what I mean, that's the most important.
You know, there's a study, they said, there's a study
that males with with big pronounced foreheads and heads are
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considered to be more attractive to the opposite sex. It's
a it's a look of dominance. It's like prehistoric kid,
There's there's a look out. There's there's a feel of dominance,
and and it's attractive um to the opposite sex. It's
it's there was a study that was done. So basically,
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just look like that look like a bronosaurus and you're gonna,
i mean, be like the middle of a litter box.
Just can't get him off because you just gotta have
that hit being really big, so big you can't see
the ice sockets, you know what I mean. It looks
like you're blinking all the time, you know, it looks
it looks like you have your eyes closed, just a
big old strong dome. I hear you, all right, shout
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out to all our seven and three four up hat
sized guys out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you gotta
have a good strong head when you got a hat
size that big. You know what I mean? You guys
buying this story that's out that Adam Schefter tweeted out
yesterday where he said that Jonathan Taylor missed practice yesterday
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because he's kind of dealing with a toe injury. It's
more of a precaution than anything they said until Wednesday.
Jonathan Taylor has never missed a practice in high school,
or in college or with the Colts. So going all
the way back to high school, this is a running
back who's never missed one single practice. You guys buying
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that or they selling uh, you know, slinging wolf tickets
when it comes to the durability of Jonathan Taylor here,
I'm sorry what type of tickets? Wolf tickets? You know
I'm talking about. That's like fighting though, that's a that's
a slang term for like you're you're talking trash, you know,
and you it's like balance, you know what I mean,
Like you're selling wolf tickets. Hum, Like, you know football's violent, man. Yeah,
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I guess you're right, So they tickets. I'll say that
to you until you both all right. It would almost
be difficult to confirm the high school aspect of it, um,
I don't even know how you would even confirm it,
but it would be probably easier to confirm it in college,
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and you definitely could confirm it in the pros. So
I buy it because I just you know, from what
I've gotten to know of Jonathan Taylor, he's a workhorse,
So I buy. I buy the fact that that this
was probably his first time missing a practice and I
remember doing games and uh and and and covering him. Yeah,
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that's definitely true. I know he didn't when he was
in college, so I assume that's been the case in
the NFL as well. But I can relate, man. I've
never called in sick my entire radio career, like twelve
thirteen years and counting. Never one time called in sick.
More than that, like going on fourteen years. Never one time,
never called and said, I don't know if that's technically true.
I feel like you've missed a show that we were
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supposed together did not never called in sick. I don't know. Yeah,
I'm telling you, man, it's the truth. I don't know
about that spitting facts here. By the way, as levers
to show might call out sick halfway through the show,
that I might call out sick halfway through this show
(30:09):
real quick? Is that true about Jonah? Because I feel
like one time he did miss a show I've never had,
he definitely comes close to missing the beginning of shows. You,
that's true, he definitely missed that. But we're gonna play
that game ally, all right. I know where some bodies
are buried. You want to play that game out, I'll
(30:32):
mean it is right though, there's no reason for you
to get sensitive about that. It's not. It's not getting sensitive.
But that is completely in your in your own control.
By the way, there was a couple of times someone
had to open a show before. Okay, alright, that did happen. No,
that's that's fine, that's fair. That happened, all right. But
this is where you want to know why because I
(30:55):
keep my mouth shut. I don't rat on anybody. We
all way down eating rat bastards just for once laugh
about it. Yeah we can, well, we will laugh. We'll
be laughing big time and play this game? How mad
(31:17):
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v P. Uh. It's obviously it's used fifty voters and uh,
it's always been you get one vote, but now they
want to change it to ranked system. This is the
way the NBA has done it for over forty years,
and obviously you'd be have number of candidates get their
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first vote would uh, the way the NBA does it
is the number one person at ten points. The second
are doing the NBA does the NFL. Why do you
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amount of first place votes their second to get the
m v P. Why do we need a ranking. This
would open it up so that a person who has
fewer first place votes could win by having a lot
more second place votes but ultimately less first place votes.
That does defeat the purpose. So you're getting rewarded for
not being number one, right, Yes, that that's a whole
(34:52):
another symptom of what our where our society is there?
You go by the way and okay, let me just
ask you guys this, Do you know who the m
v P has been two seasons in the NBA? Um?
Was it Jordan's think Michael playing and Michael Jordan wan
a couple of times? Didn't he something like that? I
believe so the Joker? Yeah, and yeah, it's been the Joker,
which which which I don't know that anyone in the
(35:13):
NBA fields Like he's been phenomenal, don't get me wrong,
Like I think he's been an m v P worthy.
There are a lot of people who are not happy
with that outcome though, Yeah, I just why, why? What's
the point? I don't I don't understand, Like there's so
many other things the NFL. Yeah, there's so many other
things that could be working on, and this is one
of them, Like the concussion provoc might want to get
(35:38):
to that. No, no, we gotta figure out this MPP
voting thing. I got to turn it into the electoral call. Yeah,
the less we had vote was two thousand twelve between
Adrian Peterson and Peyton Manning, where Adrian Peterson had gotten
thirty to Peyton Manning's twenty. Adrian Peterson did all that
coming off a blown a c L. That was believe
(36:00):
and he had he had two thousand that year, right,
but he was just short of the all time record.
I think that was Yeah. Basically he wasn't stoppable. And
who was I think Christian Ponder was the starting quarterback
in Minnesota and then for good call for the playoff game?
Who was your Web? Yes? Right, that guy Joe Webb?
(36:21):
Joe Webb? Yeah, I had to be the cornerback. I
told you I had a buddy. He was like laying
money on the line. He goes, I don't know, I
don't know who this guy is, das Joe Web, but
I'm gonna lay money on him. Not well, not well, like, hey, Brady,
how you doing. I haven't talked to you a while,
but hey, what's up with this guy? Joe Webb? Go?
I don't know much about him. He's starting in lab
(36:42):
on the playoff games. Seems like an up build battle.
Because I just this kid, Joe Web, I'm gonna put
some money on him. Okay, you know, you know what
your Italian accent. I feel has gotten better since it's
been revealed that you're actually six Italian. That's like impressive.
Like Eve now inherited that in the accent has gotten
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(37:04):
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include dodgeball, best Catch, thread the needle, and quarterback drills
along with the alright. And by the way, if you
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Yeah yeah, hold on, hold on, we got sticks. Brady
Quinn in Iowa City getting ready for a big, big
ten tilt between the Wolverines and the Iowa Hawk Eyes.
Have you run an idiot silt if you're run in
any of those Iowa offensive linemen that are like six seven,
(02:11):
eight hundred pounds that you guys talked about last year,
and no until too early in the morning, and and
and I would say their offensive line. The Weathery're playing
this year is not as intimidating as as what LaVar
witness last year. So yeah, yeah, well that was not
the not the same but kicking group. So this this
group's leaving much to be desired right now in the
(02:33):
Iowa offense. Um. So uh so let's get to the
I mean this is uh, this was an awkward moment
last night, I think for everybody involved. Scary moment last
night for everybody involved. I mean, congrats to the Cincinnati
Bengals who win the game last night, fifteen the final.
Cincinnati now finds themselves back at five hundred and there's
(02:56):
a lot of discussion about where Cincinnati goes from here.
But of course, the play and the moment everybody is
talking about is the second quarter before halftime to a
tucko boy Loa is brought down, hits his head on
the turf, freezes up. You can see his fingers crossed.
Um just basically just sort of froze up there on
(03:18):
the field. Scary situation. They bring out the stretcher, Uh,
they take him off. He's they say it's a you know,
neck and head injuries. Everybody's a little shook. Everybody's a
little rattled. And it goes back to something that we
talked about on the show yesterday and when we said, look,
there's a certain like when you get concussed, you're more susceptible,
(03:39):
and you guys said it yesterday on the show, you're
more susceptible to having it happen again, like especially immediately afterwards.
And we brought up the point that like if a
boxer or an m M A fighter gets knocked out,
you cannot even train or spar for sixty or ninety days.
You're just not allowed to. And whatever happened to to
on Sunday, they look like he got his bell rung
(04:01):
at the very least, and there he is out four
days later, and Brady, it didn't look anywhere close to
the contact he took in Sunday's game. And to get
that sort of a reaction, I think that's where the
concern comes in, and I think that's where a lot
of the outrage comes in. And that's where I felt
for him. And just to give my my own personal experience,
I had a concussion uh the end of two thousand
(04:24):
and twelve preseason, and going into Week one, I didn't
want to be not you know, not active. You know,
I chose to go to Kansas City that year, hopefully
with a chance to play. So I said, hey, let's
just mark it down as a neck injury and that
way I can get through and I don't have to
deal with the protocol. And sure enough, you know, later
on that season, when I didn't get my shot to
(04:45):
get my opportunity, I end up getting concussion versus at
that time, the Oakland Raiders, and there's a few hits
that they feel like kind of added up to it
or or would have been the culprits of the of
the second concussion. But I remember thinking back and that
was a worse concussion and was out much longer after that,
and I remember thinking back to all of it, like
(05:06):
was it worth it? And I know people listening right
now are probably thinking, well, you know, two had a
back injury, that's what it was. I'm sorry, I have
a hard time believing this hit and he sustained versus
the Buffalo Bills, and that injury was a back injury.
And I'm someone who's had back injuries and has had
back surgery, and we'll have to have more back surgery
(05:27):
that that to me was not a back injury. That
was a concussion. And last night that was an instance
of a player who I didn't think to your point
that hit was as vicious and it was. It was
tough to watch that it really was. And you know, look,
I know he's clear to he traveled back with a
team last night. UM. That very similar to him clearing
(05:48):
the concussion protocol. He seemed to clear that up pretty quick. So, UM,
it's just it's tough. It's it's it's tough to witness,
it's tough to um you know, ultimately makes sense of
but at the end of the day, you know, toois
in control of of how this whole thing goes to.
And if he you know, if you wanted to play,
who wanted to be out there put himself a potential
(06:09):
harms away, that's on him too, and and he just
has to be accountable for it. It's a it's a
very very tough situation. The complexities of it, you know,
they are they are very pronounced. We did see him stumble,
we we did see him hit his head similar to
what happened last evening. UM, in the last game. But
(06:32):
I will also I will also offer again I said yesterday.
I'm not I'm not a scientist and I'm not a doctor.
There could be the possibility that the blow was the
blow that that gave him that can cuss him last
evening like that, That is, there is the possibility that
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that is the possibility. And and so while I look
at it and I'm not saying it's because I I
don't believe that there was a correlation, but I will
also offer the idea that there is the possibility that
that blow, I mean, he did hit the back of
his head off of the ground flush on on that play,
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that that he did get slammed down into the ground
and hit his head off of the ground, and and
that those are the type of blows that cause concussions.
Now granted that was the same exact way his head
hit the ground last you know, last game. So is
there a correlation? I you know, for me, I say, hell, yeah,
(07:39):
there's a correlation. And and and it again I said
it very you know, very clearly, they should have just
said that there was the possibility that that too have
had a concussion in last week's game. That was why
he had to go through concussion protocol. Now, whatever the
severity of in the nature of what it was that
(08:01):
he you know that he he had that you know,
I don't know that that's something that they have to divulge,
but it just is a bad look if you don't
address it the way that it needed to be addressed with,
with sincerity and with with transparency from last week, it
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it just comes out and it looks as though playing
the game, being a part of the game was more
important than to his health too, to the staff that
that examined him, to the coaches that allowed him to play,
to t a that played in the game, and and
(08:45):
so to me, it's a bad look. That's what it is.
Optically speaking, whether it was a correlation or it was
just indeed that one singular blow that created and caused
the the concussion, I just don't think that the coincidence
of it happening and happening the way that it did
(09:07):
in that game, Um, there's no way of there's really
It makes it very difficult to escape the culpability of
what took place in the last game. Can we can
we look at it this way, like, what was the
worst possible thing that could have happened for two uh
in Miami last night? Not obviously the loss and all that.
(09:30):
You know, everyone understands that that play was the wor
that how that how that actually the entire thing that happened.
I mean, not even that he just suffered a concussion,
but the fact that he's laying there, it looks awful.
It's like that he's getting carded. I mean not carded.
(09:50):
I mean he's getting wheeled off the field in a
neck brace. I mean it's it's it's everyone's kind of
sitting there saying, I told you so, I told you so,
I told you so. I'm that's that's the narrative now,
is he should have never been there in the first place.
Let me ask you guys this because in just in
dovetailing off what we talked about, in just the your
susceptibility to having it happen again when you saw him
(10:13):
laying there on the field, were you surprised because I wasn't.
Because if you if you believe he had his bell
rung last game and he's back four days later, I
kind of and I don't want to like say that
we were speaking in new existence. I think that's why
the topic got brought up yesterday, Like, man, this is
going to play out on a national stage, and if
(10:35):
you're susceptible to having it happen again, especially this quick
of a turnaround. I wasn't surprised that it happened, because
I don't think it takes a doctor to recognize somebody
was dinged and got their bell runged a little bit
last game. And the question then becomes, so, how the
hell was he allowed back out there? And I think
it's not just everyone says, well, people should lose jobs
(10:57):
and uh and people should be fined and fire heard
and and all the other punishments that are going out.
Isn't it also on TA to be honest with them
about where he stands. And I know he's a warrior
and he's you know, he wants to get out there
and playing. He's dealt with injuries in the past. But
isn't part of this on to it to be as
brutally honest with the physician and the people checking him out,
(11:18):
Like when when you're talking to your doctor's brady, did
you look back afterwards and say, Hey, I needed to
be more upfront about how I was actually feeling instead
of trying to just push through it. Because the now
I'm dealing with bigger issues moving forward. Yeah, I mean
it's part of it. I had a really bad one
in college where I mean, I look, I was hospitalized
for it. I remember vividly waking up in the hospital,
(11:41):
or at least becoming conscious is how I'll put it.
And my dad was right by my side, and look
at my Dad's like. I started asking these questions and
he's like, hey, do you remember the three words or
four words you're supposed to remember? And I said, no,
what aren't they? And he told him to me. And
then the nurse came in and she asked the same thing,
and I told him. She's like, okay, we're making some progress.
And I was like, hey, can I get the phone?
(12:02):
I call mom? Can I can I call my girlfriend?
And he's he's kind of shook his head. He goes,
I don't think that's a good idea. I'm like, what
do you mean. He's like, you have been calling them?
And I go, I don't understand. He goes, he goes,
you've been doing this for the past five hours. He goes.
Every single time you'd go through this episode, and I
was like it was like a record that was skipping
(12:23):
and I would just keep repeating the same thing, same thing,
and I kind of laid back down and pass out
and same thing, same thing. I couldn't get out of this,
like same repetitive waking up, asking questions, talking to my mom,
my girlfriend, not remembering any of it, and literally passing
back out, waking back up and doing it again. And
I remember the next week I never should have been playing,
(12:44):
but I played the phone week we're playing in the
Medlands versus I think it was Navy, and I just
remember being out there in the field and everything like
moving too fast, and think to myself, I probably should
have said something to someone, but like I have to
be accountable before you know my play and what happens.
And I didn't play great that game. But I also
think I was a little extra, you know, conservative with
(13:04):
what I was putting myself, you know, in as far
as Harm's way. I go back to that play that
he got hurt, and it was kind of like a
boot where he kind of got out in space and
he had plenty of time to scramble up, get down,
throw the football away, and insteady he almost tried to
like extend it further. And I kind of go back
and think to myself like, that's one of those instances
(13:26):
where if it was me, like I would part of
me would be like, if I'm gonna put myself in
this situation, I better be able to take care of
myself and these instances and not put myself in harm's way.
And it was almost the way he played in that game,
or that particular play too, that helped lead to this.
Aside from what happened on Sunday. God, that's just a
absolutely and your point worst possible scenario played out last night.
(13:50):
There could not have been a worst situation for the
Domes laying on the ground phone of gang signs to
hold on, hold on, you got LaVar. LaVar is the
one he's talking about Coolio yesterday. Oh my gosh, I'll
(14:15):
look at you bringing up old stuff. I was totally
oblivious the fact that Julio, God Rest, his soul, had
just passed away. I had no idea. I was just
wanting to sing Gangsters Paradise and there we go, there
we go that. I was just totally having a good
(14:40):
time with playing around with the song. I had no
idea that the home he had passed on you work
deep into it so much. I don't want to say anything.
You totally you totally stole my my, my, my happiness
in the moment. Yeah, it's all right, say something that
played out on the National Airway and then and then
the nerve of you to use it against me today. Yeah,
(15:04):
after talking about a game signs to a game, signs
like there's all kinds of correlations here. Man to and
the Dolphins may have lost last night, but I know
someone who is a big winner. Yeah yeah, little min
score and a half action yeah, LaVar, yeah, yeah, thank you. Now,
(15:27):
Now what was the final score? And who are you playing?
Because I want to be able to look up with
the odds, were to see why they're not people cash
shouts out to Los Altos. Uh, you know conquerors. Um
we beat them thirty thirty four to three, I believe boom.
Yeah that's not that's not the LOSU team. No, not
(15:50):
not low sou No, No, it's a different loss. That's different. Yea,
not they used to you know, Uh Cody sewn Cody
played there. When did they get their three points? Was
it towards did they pull Jerry Glanville they were with
no time left. Everybody finds a way to run against
(16:11):
my defense. Everybody runs like one kid last week rand
for two d yards. God for week one week one
a kid ran for for almost three hundred yards against
us as well. Um wing ties are son of a bitch.
That like, that's one thing what people run. That's it's
(16:35):
one by the way, hold on, hold on? Is that
is that their only offense? They're just running a because
that's the case. That's not that much. That's not that
much yard because they get like one yard, they get
like one yard of passing. Are your d lineman? Yeah,
ankles chewed up LaVar? Are they just getting caught the
they're not getting chopped the entire game. And that's the
(16:56):
problem we've we've been or grossly. They're sized up front.
We are not a big football team up front. We're
not a big team in the alignement category. So what
happens is even last night we weren't playing we were
playing a conventional offense last night. But because our film
shows that you have the opportunity to run the ball
(17:19):
against us, they came out and they had a great
scheme to cut off our cut off our tackle, um,
cut off our end and get down into that gap. Yeah,
and and and access to edge problem is that what
these guys are running into against our defenses and they
have to understand that I embrace it. So it works
(17:42):
out to our advantage is if you continue to do
the same exact play and you're having success, we're eventually
able to adjust to what it is that you're doing
and we stop you. Now, we might not have stopped
you for thirty forty fifty yards sixty yards on on
a drive, but at some point during the drive we're
(18:04):
able to adjust enough to what it is that they're
doing where we stop them. And then now we start
stopping them as we go. And then once we get
the halftime, if you haven't, if you haven't been able
to deal with us and get like a big time,
a big time lead against us by halftime, For one,
our offense is too explosive. And then two, um, we
(18:27):
make the adjustments on defense. And once we make the adjustments,
then we generally you know, we we've kept guys off
the board. So it's like, Okay, this kid ran for
two one yards, but they scored seven points in the
first quarter. We kept them off the board pretty much.
They scored seven points in the second quarter. We pretty
much kept them off the board, we got the halftime,
(18:49):
we made adjustments, we shut them out in the third quarter,
and then later on and into the fourth quarter they
scored another touchdown, making it twenty one points as to
night they only got a field goal. You know, the
kid probably ran for a hundred He broke a hundred
yards of rushing on us. One kid had a great game. Um.
(19:09):
Shots out to those coaches and that coaching staff had
a great game plan for for our defense. But we
don't let anybody really in the end zone. So it's
kind of like, you know, it pisces me off to
sit there and have to say a kid ran for
over two hundred yards twice against our defense this year.
But at the same time, our guys step up and
they show the ability to the reprieve to be able
(19:33):
to stop them from doing what the game is ultimately about,
which is getting across the goal line. They don't really
do it too often. So it shouts out to my
guys too, because they figure it out and you know,
we're pretty good. And also shouts out to everybody who
had Los Altos plus thirty two and a half, big
time win for them. For you degenerates out there, is
that what it was I don't know. I just made
(19:53):
that up idea because I I tell we pulled off.
We we definitely pulled off. We pulled off well U
b y you not covering last time? That was John.
I was watching about back up third and nine. They're
running the football, like what are we doing? It's it's
a tie ball game right now, and I can't get
(20:15):
Clonie Sataki to get his staff to throw the football
on third and nine with Jared Hall, by the way,
who's a really good quarterback at the college level. By
the way, I got a tweet that they did play
Mr Brightside at the b y U game. So shout
out to uh, you know, a little Mormon love there,
you know, given a little love there to b y U.
It's not just guess what it may It may have
(20:36):
helped you to a twelve point victory, but the line
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a first. This is a first in the history of football.
We'll explain next here on FS are be sure to
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get involved with these these songs anymore. I'll be than that.
We've been like yeah, yeah, and then you'll be like
one of them died, yeah, well he did. Lane Stanley
died years ago. Okay, it's it's not too soon. Yeah,
it's not too soon. Not too son, Yeah, long time ago.
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Do you know what he said there, LaVar? No what
but I'm acknowed. Uh, it's a man in the box.
You know, I don't know what that means a lot
of ways to think that. I I, for one, I
am a man that enjoys being in the box. But
you know what, we all have different meanings and expectations
(22:31):
for that statement. Yeah, football term safety, you know what? Box?
There you go? Not mine, not my definition, but I'm
with you is uh two pros and a cup of Joe.
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Errington, Brady Quinn, Jonahs knocks with
(22:52):
you here at what depends on who's asking? Is that seven?
Was that the name of that movie? Yeah? Yeah's your
wife's head if you needed a quick answer, Yeah, that's
a that's a weird movie. But you know a little
(23:13):
fun fact on seven. You know, they never tell you
where they're located. There's never any reference to where that's
actually being filmed. It's just always in it's always raining,
and it's always dark and people are just getting mutilated
the entire movie. So good morning to everybody. I never
watched that movie really always wanted to. Yeah, that's like
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that's one of my bucket I know, and everyone talks
about it, and for some reason I never got around
to watching it. Yeah, it's well done, it's it's messed up. Man.
The murderer in the movie is actually a Notre Dame fan,
Like he's actually dressed in full Notre Dame when that's
(23:56):
not true. True story, man, that's not true spoiler alert.
The actually, the way they identified him is he had
a clover with n D on it on his shoulder
at tattoo killers Fly Yeah, thank Yeah, the South Bend Mutilator,
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the South Ben. I think we're I think we're lying.
Watch for yourself. I know it's crazy. U two pros
and a cup of Joe here on FS, thank you.
(24:40):
A football can ask you a question. Did Aaron Judge
that he had a sixty second last night? I can't
confirm that. No. I don't believe he did. No, no
sixty second home run for Aaron Judge. But I listen,
how more games does he have? What's he got? Like?
Seven or eight? Is there? Is it? This is this weekend,
the last weekend in baseball? Is that many games Okay,
(25:01):
so he's got yeah, like like six or seven. I
don't know who cares listen, uh cares? Yeah, I mean,
let's not stir this back up again, all right, looks
about Barry Bonds giant you know, yeah, need some peace
on this show, all right. There was one inaccuracy that
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Burno pointed out though he was saying that Bonds head shrunk.
I was like, that's not how it works. Once you
do the thing I think, and you get a big head,
it doesn't go back down. Burtough this drink though, back
to almost the normal size. Dude, that stuff just stays there.
And let me let me ask you guys a question
because that is funny as hell. Well, let me let
(25:43):
me ask you question because I think I think this
is the most important aspect of this whole thing. Would
you rather have a head that's too big or a
head that's too small? Like, think about it, because you
could be you could be Barry Bonds, or you could
be Beetlejuice Twiggs. Like I always interpret that, but I
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don't think that there could be a too bad to that.
In fact, if you're asking me, there you go, Berte,
you were with me on that one it's not even
up for debate. I'm trying to have a ginormous, super big,
super bad you know, like if you could put a
(26:29):
shot glass on your head and cover your eyes. To me,
that's a problem I'd rather have. I'd rather have a
pumpkin on my shoulders then walk around with some tiny head.
That's right, you know what I mean, that's the most important.
You know, there's a study, they said, there's a study
that males with with big pronounced foreheads and heads are
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considered to be more attractive to the opposite sex. It's
a it's a look of dominance. It's like prehistoric kid,
There's there's a look out. There's there's a feel of dominance,
and and it's attractive um to the opposite sex. It's
it's there was a study that was done. So basically,
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just look like that look like a bronosaurus and you're gonna,
i mean, be like the middle of a litter box.
Just can't get him off because you just gotta have
that hit being really big, so big you can't see
the ice sockets, you know what I mean. It looks
like you're blinking all the time, you know, it looks
it looks like you have your eyes closed, just a
big old strong dome. I hear you, all right, shout
(27:35):
out to all our seven and three four up hat
sized guys out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you gotta
have a good strong head when you got a hat
size that big. You know what I mean? You guys
buying this story that's out that Adam Schefter tweeted out
yesterday where he said that Jonathan Taylor missed practice yesterday
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because he's kind of dealing with a toe injury. It's
more of a precaution than anything they said until Wednesday.
Jonathan Taylor has never missed a practice in high school,
or in college or with the Colts. So going all
the way back to high school, this is a running
back who's never missed one single practice. You guys buying
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that or they selling uh, you know, slinging wolf tickets
when it comes to the durability of Jonathan Taylor here,
I'm sorry what type of tickets? Wolf tickets? You know
I'm talking about. That's like fighting though, that's a that's
a slang term for like you're you're talking trash, you know,
and you it's like balance, you know what I mean,
Like you're selling wolf tickets. Hum, Like, you know football's violent, man. Yeah,
(28:39):
I guess you're right, So they tickets. I'll say that
to you until you both all right. It would almost
be difficult to confirm the high school aspect of it, um,
I don't even know how you would even confirm it,
but it would be probably easier to confirm it in college,
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and you definitely could confirm it in the pros. So
I buy it because I just you know, from what
I've gotten to know of Jonathan Taylor, he's a workhorse,
So I buy. I buy the fact that that this
was probably his first time missing a practice and I
remember doing games and uh and and and covering him. Yeah,
(29:23):
that's definitely true. I know he didn't when he was
in college, so I assume that's been the case in
the NFL as well. But I can relate, man. I've
never called in sick my entire radio career, like twelve
thirteen years and counting. Never one time called in sick.
More than that, like going on fourteen years. Never one time,
never called and said, I don't know if that's technically true.
I feel like you've missed a show that we were
(29:44):
supposed together did not never called in sick. I don't know. Yeah,
I'm telling you, man, it's the truth. I don't know
about that spitting facts here. By the way, as levers
to show might call out sick halfway through the show,
that I might call out sick halfway through this show
(30:09):
real quick? Is that true about Jonah? Because I feel
like one time he did miss a show I've never had,
he definitely comes close to missing the beginning of shows. You,
that's true, he definitely missed that. But we're gonna play
that game ally, all right. I know where some bodies
are buried. You want to play that game out, I'll
(30:32):
mean it is right though, there's no reason for you
to get sensitive about that. It's not. It's not getting sensitive.
But that is completely in your in your own control.
By the way, there was a couple of times someone
had to open a show before. Okay, alright, that did happen. No,
that's that's fine, that's fair. That happened, all right. But
this is where you want to know why because I
(30:55):
keep my mouth shut. I don't rat on anybody. We
all way down eating rat bastards just for once laugh
about it. Yeah we can, well, we will laugh. We'll
be laughing big time and play this game? How mad
(31:17):
you are? Play this game here? Geez, you don't throw
rocks at a guy who's got a machine gun, you
know what I mean? Alright, Two Pros and a Cup
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we turn it over to our executive producer, lead do
do do do? Do the lap? The lap? That's rightful lap? Wow? Alright, Well,
in case you miss it, you guys. Associated Press is
(33:46):
mulling over changing the way they vote for the m
v P. Uh. It's obviously it's used fifty voters and uh,
it's always been you get one vote, but now they
want to change it to ranked system. This is the
way the NBA has done it for over forty years,
and obviously you'd be have number of candidates get their
name in the hat. So wait, how does it so?
(34:07):
So it would be a ranked tier system? So the
first vote would uh, the way the NBA does it
is the number one person at ten points. The second
are doing the NBA does the NFL. Why do you
need to do anything that the NBA does? What does
it matter if your second place to the m v P.
We see that anyway, the person that gets the second
(34:29):
amount of first place votes their second to get the
m v P. Why do we need a ranking. This
would open it up so that a person who has
fewer first place votes could win by having a lot
more second place votes but ultimately less first place votes.
That does defeat the purpose. So you're getting rewarded for
not being number one, right, Yes, that that's a whole
(34:52):
another symptom of what our where our society is there?
You go by the way and okay, let me just
ask you guys this, Do you know who the m
v P has been two seasons in the NBA? Um?
Was it Jordan's think Michael playing and Michael Jordan wan
a couple of times? Didn't he something like that? I
believe so the Joker? Yeah, and yeah, it's been the Joker,
which which which I don't know that anyone in the
(35:13):
NBA fields Like he's been phenomenal, don't get me wrong,
Like I think he's been an m v P worthy.
There are a lot of people who are not happy
with that outcome though, Yeah, I just why, why? What's
the point? I don't I don't understand, Like there's so
many other things the NFL. Yeah, there's so many other
things that could be working on, and this is one
of them, Like the concussion provoc might want to get
(35:38):
to that. No, no, we gotta figure out this MPP
voting thing. I got to turn it into the electoral call. Yeah,
the less we had vote was two thousand twelve between
Adrian Peterson and Peyton Manning, where Adrian Peterson had gotten
thirty to Peyton Manning's twenty. Adrian Peterson did all that
coming off a blown a c L. That was believe
(36:00):
and he had he had two thousand that year, right,
but he was just short of the all time record.
I think that was Yeah. Basically he wasn't stoppable. And
who was I think Christian Ponder was the starting quarterback
in Minnesota and then for good call for the playoff game?
Who was your Web? Yes? Right, that guy Joe Webb?
(36:21):
Joe Webb? Yeah, I had to be the cornerback. I
told you I had a buddy. He was like laying
money on the line. He goes, I don't know, I
don't know who this guy is, das Joe Web, but
I'm gonna lay money on him. Not well, not well, like, hey, Brady,
how you doing. I haven't talked to you a while,
but hey, what's up with this guy? Joe Webb? Go?
I don't know much about him. He's starting in lab
(36:42):
on the playoff games. Seems like an up build battle.
Because I just this kid, Joe Web, I'm gonna put
some money on him. Okay, you know, you know what
your Italian accent. I feel has gotten better since it's
been revealed that you're actually six Italian. That's like impressive.
Like Eve now inherited that in the accent has gotten
even better since you've discovered that. So it's great, man,
(37:04):
I'm happy for you. There you go, it's awesome, guys.
In case you missed, the NFL announcement that they are
doing away with the Pro Bowl Game and instead bringing
in a bunch of different competitions for players to take part,
and they now announced an agreement between the NFL and
NFL p A where players will be mandated to attend
unless they have a medical issue. The winners of the
(37:24):
of the winning side will get four dollars and the
losers is so dumb, Just let it die, Just let
the thing die. Has announced the teams, Yeah, and then
we don't need any competition or game. Competitions will include
include dodgeball, best Catch, thread the needle, and quarterback drills
along with the alright. And by the way, if you
(37:46):
if you're the NFL p A, how you come to
an agreement where you make players it's mandated to go
to this. Get get out of here with that. If
Aaron Rodgers, a top Rady, or whoever else does want
to go to go, it's the stupidest thing. I mean, listen,
you do you This is what happens when you burn
the Great State of Hawaii and you take it out
(38:07):
of a Looha stadium. This is what you end up with.
Now they're playing tiddley Winks for dollars if they lose.
This is like watching road kill die. Like you you
saw a deer get hit by a car and you're
watching it die and suffer. This awful. That's what the
Pro Bowl is right now. Dang. Fox Sports Radio has
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