October 3, 2022 • 38 mins
Monday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Pac Man makes another appearance on Big Noon Kickoff. Roberto celebrates the Raiders first win of the season. Mahomes vs Brady was fun to watch. The NFL finds a neurologist fall-guy. It’s Kenny Pickett time in Pittsburgh. And ICYMI, DK needed to take a #2 and AB never fails to outdo himself.
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that was baby. It was me oh Man out there right.
For those of you who listen to the show, UM,
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I appreciate it. You know, you guys show out. Two
weeks in a row, we had what about Me pac
Man sign at the big new kickoff spot there in
Iowa City. So there it was. It was cool, solid.
There's amongst the number of signs, I saw that one
specifically it has Anybody asked yet what that means? No one,
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No one on the set really understands um. And it's
it's kind of sad because I feel like it's like
an inside joke and I'm the only one who really
gets it. Um. And then did you laugh? Came to it.
How hard did you laugh when you saw it? I
was laughing pretty hard, I was. I was a little surprised.
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But once I saw like the smaller writing which LaVar's
alluding sales a go okay, this is like an avid
listeners out. And then they had the narrow to put
go blue. They were so inappropriate for the rest of it.
But go blue, man, and go blue they did, by
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the way. You know what I noticed too, I went
back and watched that scene from Colors. You know, she
never says what about me, pac man, Like it's I
don't know how we crossed the streams there, but that's
never exactly what she says. Yeah, man, the life of
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its own. But by the way, can we get around
of applause? Roberto? That is from the sick and twisted
mind of Roberto, who thought a thirty year old movie
he brought back to prominence because some cop walked in
on his girlfriend playing playing human twister with you know,
with some guy who was running with a gang nearby.
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It's so funny, man. Yeah, and there's some little kid
on his dad's shoulders right next to the sign to
Ha's so ridiculous, man, You see a lot of signs
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out there, but it was great. By the way. Speaking
of speaking of Roberto, can we just kind of like
take a moment to one game a round of applause
His Las Vegas raters did get that. But can I
also point something out I'd like to read of the
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timeline of Roberto Flora's Twitter while he's watching Alright, I
want to say. This is somewhere in second and third
quarter of the game. Roberto Flora says, another red zone
field goal, just terrible, It's going to cost raters the game.
Same crap, use a different word, different coach. Next one
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includes a gift. I believe that's a Jim Carrey pulling
his hair out. Another field goal in the red zone
exclamation point. Uh. Then later in the game, this is
in the second half not uh, says it's not it's
no now, excuse me him. Now, it's a one possession game.
Here's where all those field goals the red zone costs you.
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Then to finish, he just has a gift of a
radius flag fly says yeah, yeah. So after three tweets
just burying his team, giving any any hope of the
Radiers winning, which I mean again, I don't try to
see him field goals in the Red dumb Brady. Hey,
they won, baby, that's all the matter is. Come on now,
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Oh my god. He really does go through the roller
coaster of emotions. He's my dad. My dad's like really negative,
Like my dad if like if like you know, we
have a three and out of the game, up games over,
just we might as well leave now these guys, Yeah,
it listened. Roberto is very passionate and uh, man, wait,
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coming my dad to my desk to that song. Man,
he's Raider fan. That's my dad's who's your dad's team,
He's he's just he least whatever thing we root for,
you'll you'll root for them. But he just likes to
talk to Yeah, they don't have totally danced around that
that question. They get they get so old to a
point they get so like crotchety. Yeah exactly. Yeah, you
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don't know who they're rooting for. Is a root for anyone.
It's like they want everyone to lose, or they think
everyone's gonna lose. Uh it's uh yeah, it's so it's
so true. Oh, it's done, it's done, done, it's over.
These boys, like the first player of the gang. Yeah,
it's done, and then tell they'll be too negative. It's
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always done. And I've seen this way too many times exactly.
It's like they've lived so long, seen it all. Yeah, yeah,
you don't get to happen. You don't get it. I've
seen this movie played out a thousand times before. This
is where this is headed. It's it's over, it's over.
It's over. By the way, your's postseason, Baseball's coming up.
And if you want a wild ride, just follow a
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Bert on Twitter. I'm telling you that's gonna be my
new thing. Anytime the Dodgers or Raiders play, just just
go ahead and take a peek to Pete at Roberto's Twitter.
It's just phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. So it was a banner weekend.
And then you know he's, I mean cooking up a
tri tip from outer space and oh yeah, big time,
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big time. He didn't like my first response. He totally
did want to respond to that. I thought it was
pretty funny. I thought it was pretty funny, but it
was the gift. No no, no, no to. I told
him we'd looked like that on a grill, and I
won't say what that is. Yeah, there you go. I
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looked like l a on on. Yeah that I was joking.
I was just jealous and upset that I wasn't gonna
be able to partake in his his nice, nice grill.
And that was where real cold he had on. He
wouldn't ask there and I saw him. I saw him
ambers on the the air getting it in shots out
big time or yeah, big time. Um. So I really hope,
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um that Patrick Mahomes is gonna be okay with that
Tyreek Hill. Like, I really hope that he's gonna be
all right. You know, I'm just bottom concerned that that
he's not going to be able to function as a
high level quarterback in the NFL. Because I say this
not to get like via dorc, but I was. I
was sitting watch the game thing to myself. The coolest
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part about this is it's such a contrast of styles
of like quarterback play, where Mahomes has more of that
kind of backyard feel to it at times, and even
then like they're there their play calling and the creates
the play calling. I mean, just the way they sneak
in a shovel pass every time they get down in
the red zone. It's amazing. It's like all these different
ways to just wait for you, like it's gonna happen.
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It's a magic trick you got. I don't know what
it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen, though, And they always
find a way of getting one in. And then you've
got Tom, who you know, runs a system that I
swart of gout there going a two minute drive before
half and he's signal out of their serious. I was like,
oh my god, he still used the same signals he
always has. They used ten X comeback, which is a
point that we had forever, and he end up completed
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the ball to God, went over the middle, and I'm
like that he's been doing that for his entire career
since he was in New England. It's the same exact system,
but it's just the way he goes about communicating and
it's it's pre snap post snap, like the whole way
of reading the defense and making subtle adjustments navigating the pocket.
I mean, I just it was so much fun to watch,
and it kind of sad man like, I don't think
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we're gonna see these guys probably even score off in
the Super Bowl like that. This is probably the last
time these two teams are gonna ever play against one another.
I thought it was pretty cool. I thought it was
I thought it was really interesting to watch how you
know they maneuvered. You could tell Tom really really really
wanted this game game. I mean you could tell, and
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you know, they just didn't have enough. But they looked good.
I think they looked really good. And that was interesting.
Like they got for neck going in the game. Mike
Williams got got going, or excuse me, Evans, Mike Evans
got going in the game. Uh man, Godwin just scares
me anymore. You know, that's one of my brother and
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he just scares me anymore. It just seems like he's
he's a play away from from getting injured so much anymore.
But you know, he he was out there playing at
least Julio was out there playing UM at least. I
don't know how much they have left the Julio or
or if Godwin can stay healthy UM. But I mean,
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he used everyone Bright went out with with the he
went out concussed. And that's been a whole major conversation. Right,
everybody's all touch touch sensitive now College pro you saw it.
It was very prevalent. Now everybody's like it's back into
conscious like, oh, make sries, okay, every every announcer on
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every game, it's like, oh, you gotta make sories, okay,
you know, you know, okay, alright, make sure we handle
out right. We all know that we gotta make sure
we try to handle this one of this right. You know.
It's like, okay, you know, so we're back to that.
But well, for for a second, like it is it
is interesting that that was going to be the cause
and effect, but you have the injury to to A
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and then now it's heightening the awareness everywhere else. So
it's it's obviously is a good thing. Is a good thing.
It's weird we went through this phase of like going
back to how how normally fans watch any sort of
contact sport where the football or fighting everything else, Like oh,
we got knocked out, you know, like that's like your
official reaction. Then you go, oh, okay, well, let's let's
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make sure he doesn't get back in the game. Let's
make sure he's safe. Like we kind of transition for
like football still about the big hits, the fans want
to see you that, it's just we we also need
to make sure we do our our best job of
protecting the player who gets hit in that instance. But
to your point, like you're right man, like I didn't.
I kind of forgot like that was gonna ratchet up
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everyone else and how every single hit would be diagnosed
moving forward, I mean every single one. I don't know.
And and football is a brutal sport and we've known
we've known that for a really really long time. And
now you have so many people that, you know, all
the people that never liked football for those reasons, they're
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they're now very relevant now anymore. And that's it's kind
of in a way, it's kind of sad. I mean,
I'm if I'm just being honest, like I'm an American,
like I'm an all American, and if I'm just speaking
for a behalf of every every hard, nos tough ass American.
I mean, you soft ask people out there that that
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now it's your time again to be heard. Uh go
kick rocks man there, And I just wanted to give that.
I do. I mean, I do think this is a
fine line. Like I get like we gotta we gotta
protect players and make sure they go through the proper
protocols and all that which we can dive into at
some point because uh, some neurologists just did get canned.
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I mean he did get well. And that's the independent
neurologist ends up being the fall guy where it's it's
probably easy. Like I think I told you guys last
week with this. I remember the independent neurologist I went
and saw for one of my concussions in Kansas. I
mean the guy didn't know me. I didn't know him.
I walk in, get the evaluation. Um he it was like,
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I mean, he okay, Like here's a here's another concussion
symptom I'm looking at trying to evaluate. Okay, here all right,
you say you're okay, You're okay, alright, cool, Like, I
don't know that it impacts that guy went away or
another outside of if they feel like he was negligent
in some way, he could lose his license. I just
kind of go back to what role player plays in it.
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If a player wants to play, they keep telling you know,
I'm okay, I'm okay, and they and they manipulate the process.
How's that guy going to be able to figure it out? Right?
He's he's there, neurologist. He doesn't live and jump inside
the brain to figure out what kind of damage and
how they're recovering. It's just that he's a fall guy.
Like that's the best way you guys could put it. Well, listen,
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I mean the NFL p A came out and said it.
They were they were coming after somebody. You know, they
were going to stand for this with the North Hills hammer. Yeah. Yeah,
we drop hammers that North Hill. We don't play that
soft serve syrup s. We drop hammers. Yea though, do
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you guys remember that TCB y like soft serve? Oh yeah, yeah,
remember there used to be one called Penguins too. Did
you have a Penguins? Is that a national chain or
it might have just been out here, but yeah, there
was Like what did you guys have in Pennsylvania, Laura,
I don't know. You don't guys, I don't know we did,
but I don't remember like like details of it. Man,
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waffle cone, get a little of the you know, the
little chocolate vanilla like like Mixed World. It's frozen yogurt
better than ice cream. So I don't know if I
go that far, it's different. Man. I had soberry. I
had a strawberry milkshake from basking Robbins yesterday. It was exquisite.
Good for you. By the way, I think it's healthy
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for people to have a milkshake once a day, and
I'm that it was it was it was Kurt, Joey yourself,
I got diabetes? Can do you don't have diabetes? It
was Kurt. Oh yeah, A lot of that lately. Like
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my daughter went to the dentist the other day and
she's young, she's like six, and now like she's got
a pre cavey. I go, huh, I go their baby teeth.
What do I care? I's a pre cavey. I think
be out of there soon. Like we're talking about what
do you want think we would have pulled a pull
that two thousand six to be a break? What the
school for this? This is your advice? You're to pull
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out a babe fall out anyway because it's a pre cavity.
I'm like, do they teach a logic anymore in dental school? Okay, now,
how are you gonna pull it out? You're gonna go
string to the door knob and the door or string
to the back of the car. Yeah, I'm talking about man. Yeah,
that would be pretty funny. Uh It is two Pros
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here on fs are we have got confirmation. There was
some speculation. We've now got confirmation from one player in
the NFL over a moment that took place on Sunday.
We'll get into that for you here on Fox Sports
Radio again twenty minutes from now. Um, it's Kenny Pick
of time, time baby. Now, never mind the fact that
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the Pittsburgh's dealers somehow lost that game to the New
York Yet, it's never mind that. And the Jets fans
are thrilled, absolutely thrilled because they've picked up three more wins,
and they thought they'd have the entire season and they've
only got two on the year. So congratulations to the
New York Jets and their fan base who are fired up.
I've never seen a fan base more fired up about
being five hundred but you know, and and had no
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business pumped up, can I can I address something too.
Here's the weird thing is everyone's like, oh, I said,
they go oh and nine. I never said they go
oh and nine. We we did our preseason picks. I
took the under on their win total, which I believe
was at five and a half accurate five or five
and a six, five and a half or six, which
I said, I think they'd go under. But I think
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when I was at six, I said, I think they
probably hit that number there at five whatever. Um. All
I said was they want to be favored in the
first nine games, and it was a tough sleep. And
and by the way, have they been favored to date? No? No.
And on top of that, like they've actually had some
things bounced their way. You know this this past week,
you had a quarterback change at halftime, and I actually
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think that sparked everything for Pittsburgh. But and the reality
is of Pickett plays the whole game. I'm not sure
the Jets win that game, but give him credit. You know,
Zach Wilson did play probably his best quarter of football
since he's been in the NFL. He was bad for
the first three quarters and then he he put together
his best quarter. So give the Jets credit, give him credit.
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Maybe that could be one of those galvanizing things where
you want on the road in Cleveland even though you
probably shouldn't have. They fumbled that game away, and then
Pittsburgh you find a way to fight back in it,
and when you know, maybe they can use that moving forward.
But when they played in Miami next at home and
you get a backup quarterback there too is gonna be
out for a while, and and you you you kind
of go through the rest of their schedule. The New
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England game doesn't look as tough. You could be faced
in Bailey's appy or Brian Horror. I'm not sure who
the hell is will be playing quarterback for them right now.
So it's you kind of look at how things are
shaped out. It's worked out well for the Jets. Like
I think this could be one of those seasons where
still have a losing record, but like it. It looks
a little better than it has in the past, so
so good for them. They should be excited about this.
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I can't believe the Steelers are this bad. For one
I can't. I'm I'm Matt Canada. I'm actually well now
I'm helping to pick and save them. But I'm starting
to starting to learn it's over. Forget about it, you know,
games over. You know, I'm one of those guys right now.
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Um uh. But I'll tell you what. What what was
interesting to me was after the Jets one I thought
to myself, my goodness, would you have ever thought that
the Colts and the Steelers would have a worse record?
And I guess we could add in the Oakland Raiders
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would have a worse record. Raiders that I just say Oakland.
I don't know why Las Vegas and you call him
the Tijuana Raiders. I couldn't care less. Who cares? Well?
I know this. Would you have ever thought the Jets
would have more wins than them at any point year
in the history of the NFL? There is hope if
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you're a Jets fan, there's hope because there you go,
no business winning either game, no business winning either game,
and yet here they are at five hundred. And I know,
I know people love coming after Brady when he talks
about the Jets, you know what I mean. But I'm
just saying everything that he said was warranted. I'm just
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you know, just giving you a news flash. You know,
it's fascinating about the whole thing too. People have been
making jokes about the Jets for a century. Seemingly this
is nothing new, why is it? Yes, literally had a
coach with a foot fetish came yes, yeah, who got
a tattoo of his quarterback on him or on his
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wife on him? I mean, I just I mean, you
can't make this stuff up, but it is. It is
funny to me, like everyone's everyone's keeping receiving Hey, I'm
keeping receipts, Like trust me, Like, let's see how the
rest of the season plays out. That's all I'm saying,
because as as I'm watching it right now, this is
one of those this is one of those the parts
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of the year where you go, we are almost you know,
a quarter or I mean less than that now, play
in seventeen games. But we've watched enough football to kind
of have an idea, idea of where things are going.
And there's still time where teams can build and fight back.
But there's something for some teams you're just going, okay, like,
let's see if you can you can still keep finding
a way to win that way, it's something that's not sustainable.
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So I mean, you you credit them all you want.
I mean, you've got the Browns now who they just
lost to Atlanta. It's the fancy just took another l.
You can be proud of that win, but that schtu
gets a lot harder when you have to go at
Green Bay, at Denver, some of these other spots, Buffalo.
I don't know, we'll see it all pens out. It
looks like before the bye you know what else? So
I thought about yesterday when I was watching games, how
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many more teams will actually think that they are the
cure and the remedy for Carson Wentz becoming Carson Wentz
and Jesus I thought about that yesterday to that crossed
my mind, like will there be another team that said, Yep,
we're gonna take Carson Wentz after this year and we're
going to make him the starter. And were the where
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the team that he's going to start doing better with?
Can I say this though? Because because I thought the
Commanders would be a more competitive and I thought I
thought Wentz would be better in this system with the
town they have, you thought it would be a little
more competitive. Well, the TV left, like I see you
said that the Commanders, and I was trying to forge
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out who that was not normally, so I had to
be on TV and reference him as the Commanders. Saturday,
I did do a toss to Renault because you have
the chance to say commandos and I literally had. I
had to say a second guest. I was like, oh,
to be a forty slip, I'm gonna I'm gonna say
the commander for this. It's gonna be awful. By the way,
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I can't tell you how many times I apologize for
our show and I see people who are like, hey,
big fan, listen two. I saw a guy at church,
a guy at church this year was like, hey, listen
to your show. I go, oh, no, I go, I'm sorry.
He was like yeah, he was like, you probably need
to come in here more often. Yeah, well listen, I
mean use here in the morning. I I digress, though,
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I thought Wentz would be better in the system, and
there's still time maybe you will. But tell you what,
the Colts Colts look awful, awful, it's done, it's over.
Forget about it. And you think no more wins, were
no more wins. It's done. I mean put behind Nike
back in me. Yeah, but why not? I mean Carson
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wants to like every time I'm I'm looking at the screen,
it seems like he's scrambling for his life, just trying
to get the ball out of bounds, just trying to
Their on line pay has been bad. Their defense is good, though. Man.
They got some guys. I saw some kids playing pick
up football yesterday and they were making better plays than
some of these guys in the league. Man, I was like,
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look at that, Look at the extension the commitment to
making the catch. They made it. They went down, they
hit the ground hard. Nobody worried about concussions. They just
made to play. They got up, they just kept playing.
You know, no independent neurologists, no blue tent, none of
that stuff. And you know, somebody's going to get on
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and they're somebody's sitting at home, if they're awake right
now listening to us, maybe one morning drive on the
East coast, and they're upset with me. They're they're irritated
that I seemingly am making light of or making fun
of um concussions. And I'm not. I think concussions are serious.
I think it's a serious conversation. I'm very very well. Um,
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you know, uh traveled in and hit heads hit and
health safety and different things like that as it applies
to the game. I've I've done various programs, have been
a part of you know, all kinds of different you know, programs, initiatives,
um trying to make the game safer. So I by
no means I am minimizing the safety of the game.
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I just think I'm minimizing the softness of of Americans.
That's I feel like we're just so freaking soft anymore. Anyways,
That's that's what That's what came out of yesterday for me.
So there is that's what that's what came you know,
certain things exposed, certain things, and yesterday it was exposed
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that you know what, and and we are such a cattle.
We're such a group of cattle as as a as
a as a community of people. If you if you
pay attention to football, it's like you're just such like
stop being cattle, like you're being ran. You're being cattle ran,
Like stop being moved from from one field to another field,
Like you don't see the horses. You don't hear I'm saying, yeah,
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I like that you're running. You're the one with with
like a tag in your ear, like like just use
use some like some thought man, Like somebody says run,
you don't necessarily have to run. You could you could
ultimately ask why why am I running? You know, Like,
I mean I get it. I grew up running when
I saw people run too, and that that was a
cultural thing. You know, you could actually lose your life
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if you didn't run once you saw somebody else running.
I mean, I grew up in that. But I'm just saying,
when somebody sits there and and it becomes a thing
all of a sudden, like it became a thing, like
literally all of a sudden, like all over again, it's
a thing. Like So, so will there be another concussion
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movie that comes out? Will there be like will Outside
the Lines do a special? Like? I mean, I'm trying
to understand why it's being so dramatized. I mean, don't
we know what concussions are now? Like, didn't we go
through an era a moment in time where we started
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getting the education, we started putting the different protocols in
and this not another Like why are we acting surprised
if somebody gets hit and dinged and gets a concussion?
Why are we acting so surprised about it? It happens.
It does happen. It does happen. That's all I'm saying.
It does happen. I understand what you're saying. The reality
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of football is there's always gonna be these injuries. You
know that there's there's always gonna be concussions, And I
just I think people are now acting like shocked or
surprised by by the fact that there's times when two
things occur. We don't always properly diagnose it correct or
we don't always properly handle it, which I looked at correct.
If you're gonna use the to a case and what's
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transpired over the past couple of weeks or or a
couple of games for the Dolphins, if you think that's
the norm, then I'm sorry, you're an idiot. Like it's
not like by and large, the doctors, the staff, everyone's
trying to do right, and everyone's trying to get this right,
and no one wants to put anyone in harm's way.
I don't care how much money they're making or they're
not making. Everyone's trying to get it right. So if
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you actually think that you are an idiot, there are
gonna be instance where we mess up are humans, and
there's gonna be times when a player plays a role
in that. And and look and look, I've said it's firsthand.
I literally told the team to label the neck injury
so I didn't have to go on concussion protocol. And
so there's people out there like where you're an idiot,
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And that's fine. You can think I'm an idiot for
doing that. I want the chance to play. That was
at a point in my career where it was more desperation,
and when you're desperate, you're gonna do things that puts
you in harm's way, put you at risk. And I
did that and I and I suffered the effects of
it later on that season because I was probably more
apt to get a concussion. And I did get a
concussion after that later on that season. So the reality
(30:05):
of the situation is you're human. There's gonna be some
air involved, whether it's with the people who are diagnosing it,
whether it's the players who are involved in it and
their desire to play. I mean, all that stuff plays
a factor. So I just I think I will use
one example to then be the standard for everything. And
that's why I think the biggest issue with society is
is we want to take that that unicorn, that outlier
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and go, well, this is how it is every time,
And no, it's not like that's that's the issue with
where we're at. I think with with almost anything. I mean,
you can you can name a bunch of things right now,
and I think people use those outliers to then make policy,
to make decisions. And you're like, can we just pump
the brakes here, like, this is not how everyone feels collectively.
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It's just you know, a handful of people here or
something there. That's it. Like, let's just calm down for
a second. Those are the exceptions, not the rules. But
we're making rules on the exceptions now, and that's what
that's exactly. And we talked about the time because it
was on prime time, it was everybody got to see it.
It was it was an ugly look, it was a
scary look. So then there was gonna be an overcorrection.
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And that's where we're at now. Now, now it's gonna
be you know, everybody any sort of instability when you
get up and now automatically they're gonna be out of
the game and they're gonna it's just yeah, it's just
I mean this is. But it's the same people that
were complaining about the NFL's approach to this after the
tour play are the same people that also bitch and
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moan every time some quarterback takes a glancing blow to
the head and they say this sports become so soft. Now,
I mean they've just become so so like. You can't
have it both ways. I mean, you either understand what this,
what football is and what could possibly happen, or you don't.
And the NBA is coming up, so watch that instead
one for those who think the NFL is soft. Now
(31:53):
all right? Yeah from Tom Peli sero. This occurred thirteen
minutes ago. Pro Bowl safety Harrison Smith, you, by the way,
came from making cushion this past week in London, got
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of Sundays went over the Saints. Per source. That's why
you had to come out stopping the clock, which he
wasn't trying to do. Smith may never have another child,
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but otherwise he's fine. I meant you think it's soft
out there, We've got guys getting hit in the chunk
and trying to play through it. Yeah, listen, listen. The
Golden dome Er too, you know, all the way out
in London, haven't it that one stood up to me?
I haven't seen Pela Sero break too many stories about
a guy getting hit in a certain spot where we
won't have kids anymore. Yeah, it's uh, that's unfortunates. Uh
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In case you missed the end of that Lawks Ends
game fans had quite a scarce scene DK Metcalf carted off.
It was quickly reported that it was for a bathroom break.
He later uh verified that on Twitter, saying that Clinch
walk wouldn't have made it. Yeah walk, although although isn't
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it if you've gotta if you've gotta go number two,
doesn't sitting down make it worse? And it feels like
it will be worse if you were trying to walk
if you're to that point. I think about the physics.
If you're sitting down, at least it's like helping to
keep it in. You know, really, even if it were
to come out, at least nobody he's going to see it.
You're sitting down so it's last last time I checked,
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there's a hole in the toilet can. Yeah, sitting on
the back of a golf card. Yeah, I understand that.
I know I've seen a toilet or two of my time.
But here's sure. Here's the thing. It's called some dinosaurs.
That the way, the way that he was, the way
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were going to make it and then realized, you know what,
I'm not going to make it. It's much better. Yeah,
let it fly that way. Nobody sees anything. I don't know.
If you want to draw attention to yourself, you're there,
that's correct. What do you like? I mean, so I
would rather think you think you thought it was an
injury than you to see that apt. I don't know
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if you're a wide receiver you want to draw attention
to yourself, although I think we've got some other wide
receivers over the weekend that may have done that. What
do you mean, Leah, we got something else? What are
you talking about? Yeah? In case you missed this one,
you guys video went viral of Antonio Brown exposing his
buttocks and genitalia to a woman in a pool in Dubai.
He later tweeted a joke, I'm telling every team that
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needs some offense to pick up a B because he's
shown that he still has the ability to expose a D.
I mean that that rabbit hole continues to go deeper
he is. I mean, although I will give him credit,
you know, at least he found time to get to
the batting cages over in Dubai. There's that just saying,
(37:07):
at least he found time to go that direction. I
feel like he's got some bad friends. I don't know
the backstory behind it, if it was solicited or not,
but it's just not a good look. Man. It didn't
look like it was solicited. She didn't seem like she
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was very very happy about what was happening and what
was transpiring there in the pool. Um, he's that guy.
Remember when the conversation was, Hey, is he is he
going to get another shot in the NFL? Yes, that's over.
He's got to get across them train tracks, man. I mean,
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what like, literally had a Hall of Fame career staring
him in the eyes. And it's gone, gone, will never
play in the league again, and melt down after meltdown,
and it seems like every time we think we've seen
it all, he does something that makes it even worse,
Like it just gets worse every time, Like he's a
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he's a hindrance to himself. And yeah, maybe maybe he
doesn't need better friends or friends at all, because it
doesn't seem like he's with a lot of people in
a lot of these uh and a lot of these.
It's a good point in Berno, well, his buddies were
not in the video for it. We're gonna do this,
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Iowa City. So there it was. It was cool, solid.
There's amongst the number of signs, I saw that one
specifically it has Anybody asked yet what that means? No one,
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No one on the set really understands um. And it's
it's kind of sad because I feel like it's like
an inside joke and I'm the only one who really
gets it. Um. And then did you laugh? Came to it.
How hard did you laugh when you saw it? I
was laughing pretty hard, I was. I was a little surprised.
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But once I saw like the smaller writing which LaVar's
alluding sales a go okay, this is like an avid
listeners out. And then they had the narrow to put
go blue. They were so inappropriate for the rest of it.
But go blue, man, and go blue they did, by
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the way. You know what I noticed too, I went
back and watched that scene from Colors. You know, she
never says what about me, pac man, Like it's I
don't know how we crossed the streams there, but that's
never exactly what she says. Yeah, man, the life of
(03:16):
its own. But by the way, can we get around
of applause? Roberto? That is from the sick and twisted
mind of Roberto, who thought a thirty year old movie
he brought back to prominence because some cop walked in
on his girlfriend playing playing human twister with you know,
with some guy who was running with a gang nearby.
(03:42):
It's so funny, man. Yeah, and there's some little kid
on his dad's shoulders right next to the sign to
Ha's so ridiculous, man, You see a lot of signs
(04:05):
out there, but it was great. By the way. Speaking
of speaking of Roberto, can we just kind of like
take a moment to one game a round of applause
His Las Vegas raters did get that. But can I
also point something out I'd like to read of the
(04:28):
timeline of Roberto Flora's Twitter while he's watching Alright, I
want to say. This is somewhere in second and third
quarter of the game. Roberto Flora says, another red zone
field goal, just terrible, It's going to cost raters the game.
Same crap, use a different word, different coach. Next one
(04:51):
includes a gift. I believe that's a Jim Carrey pulling
his hair out. Another field goal in the red zone
exclamation point. Uh. Then later in the game, this is
in the second half not uh, says it's not it's
no now, excuse me him. Now, it's a one possession game.
Here's where all those field goals the red zone costs you.
(05:13):
Then to finish, he just has a gift of a
radius flag fly says yeah, yeah. So after three tweets
just burying his team, giving any any hope of the
Radiers winning, which I mean again, I don't try to
see him field goals in the Red dumb Brady. Hey,
they won, baby, that's all the matter is. Come on now,
(05:35):
Oh my god. He really does go through the roller
coaster of emotions. He's my dad. My dad's like really negative,
Like my dad if like if like you know, we
have a three and out of the game, up games over,
just we might as well leave now these guys, Yeah,
it listened. Roberto is very passionate and uh, man, wait,
(05:58):
coming my dad to my desk to that song. Man,
he's Raider fan. That's my dad's who's your dad's team,
He's he's just he least whatever thing we root for,
you'll you'll root for them. But he just likes to
talk to Yeah, they don't have totally danced around that
that question. They get they get so old to a
point they get so like crotchety. Yeah exactly. Yeah, you
(06:21):
don't know who they're rooting for. Is a root for anyone.
It's like they want everyone to lose, or they think
everyone's gonna lose. Uh it's uh yeah, it's so it's
so true. Oh, it's done, it's done, done, it's over.
These boys, like the first player of the gang. Yeah,
it's done, and then tell they'll be too negative. It's
(06:42):
always done. And I've seen this way too many times exactly.
It's like they've lived so long, seen it all. Yeah, yeah,
you don't get to happen. You don't get it. I've
seen this movie played out a thousand times before. This
is where this is headed. It's it's over, it's over.
It's over. By the way, your's postseason, Baseball's coming up.
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(07:04):
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go ahead and take a peek to Pete at Roberto's Twitter.
It's just phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. So it was a banner weekend.
And then you know he's, I mean cooking up a
tri tip from outer space and oh yeah, big time,
(07:25):
big time. He didn't like my first response. He totally
did want to respond to that. I thought it was
pretty funny. I thought it was pretty funny, but it
was the gift. No no, no, no to. I told
him we'd looked like that on a grill, and I
won't say what that is. Yeah, there you go. I
(07:48):
looked like l a on on. Yeah that I was joking.
I was just jealous and upset that I wasn't gonna
be able to partake in his his nice, nice grill.
And that was where real cold he had on. He
wouldn't ask there and I saw him. I saw him
ambers on the the air getting it in shots out
big time or yeah, big time. Um. So I really hope,
(08:13):
um that Patrick Mahomes is gonna be okay with that
Tyreek Hill. Like, I really hope that he's gonna be
all right. You know, I'm just bottom concerned that that
he's not going to be able to function as a
high level quarterback in the NFL. Because I say this
not to get like via dorc, but I was. I
was sitting watch the game thing to myself. The coolest
(08:35):
part about this is it's such a contrast of styles
of like quarterback play, where Mahomes has more of that
kind of backyard feel to it at times, and even
then like they're there their play calling and the creates
the play calling. I mean, just the way they sneak
in a shovel pass every time they get down in
the red zone. It's amazing. It's like all these different
ways to just wait for you, like it's gonna happen.
(08:57):
It's a magic trick you got. I don't know what
it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen, though, And they always
find a way of getting one in. And then you've
got Tom, who you know, runs a system that I
swart of gout there going a two minute drive before
half and he's signal out of their serious. I was like,
oh my god, he still used the same signals he
always has. They used ten X comeback, which is a
point that we had forever, and he end up completed
(09:19):
the ball to God, went over the middle, and I'm
like that he's been doing that for his entire career
since he was in New England. It's the same exact system,
but it's just the way he goes about communicating and
it's it's pre snap post snap, like the whole way
of reading the defense and making subtle adjustments navigating the pocket.
I mean, I just it was so much fun to watch,
and it kind of sad man like, I don't think
(09:39):
we're gonna see these guys probably even score off in
the Super Bowl like that. This is probably the last
time these two teams are gonna ever play against one another.
I thought it was pretty cool. I thought it was
I thought it was really interesting to watch how you
know they maneuvered. You could tell Tom really really really
wanted this game game. I mean you could tell, and
(10:03):
you know, they just didn't have enough. But they looked good.
I think they looked really good. And that was interesting.
Like they got for neck going in the game. Mike
Williams got got going, or excuse me, Evans, Mike Evans
got going in the game. Uh man, Godwin just scares
me anymore. You know, that's one of my brother and
(10:25):
he just scares me anymore. It just seems like he's
he's a play away from from getting injured so much anymore.
But you know, he he was out there playing at
least Julio was out there playing UM at least. I
don't know how much they have left the Julio or
or if Godwin can stay healthy UM. But I mean,
(10:47):
he used everyone Bright went out with with the he
went out concussed. And that's been a whole major conversation. Right,
everybody's all touch touch sensitive now College pro you saw it.
It was very prevalent. Now everybody's like it's back into
conscious like, oh, make sries, okay, every every announcer on
(11:09):
every game, it's like, oh, you gotta make sories, okay,
you know, you know, okay, alright, make sure we handle
out right. We all know that we gotta make sure
we try to handle this one of this right. You know.
It's like, okay, you know, so we're back to that.
But well, for for a second, like it is it
is interesting that that was going to be the cause
and effect, but you have the injury to to A
(11:30):
and then now it's heightening the awareness everywhere else. So
it's it's obviously is a good thing. Is a good thing.
It's weird we went through this phase of like going
back to how how normally fans watch any sort of
contact sport where the football or fighting everything else, Like oh,
we got knocked out, you know, like that's like your
official reaction. Then you go, oh, okay, well, let's let's
(11:51):
make sure he doesn't get back in the game. Let's
make sure he's safe. Like we kind of transition for
like football still about the big hits, the fans want
to see you that, it's just we we also need
to make sure we do our our best job of
protecting the player who gets hit in that instance. But
to your point, like you're right man, like I didn't.
I kind of forgot like that was gonna ratchet up
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everyone else and how every single hit would be diagnosed
moving forward, I mean every single one. I don't know.
And and football is a brutal sport and we've known
we've known that for a really really long time. And
now you have so many people that, you know, all
the people that never liked football for those reasons, they're
(12:33):
they're now very relevant now anymore. And that's it's kind
of in a way, it's kind of sad. I mean,
I'm if I'm just being honest, like I'm an American,
like I'm an all American, and if I'm just speaking
for a behalf of every every hard, nos tough ass American.
I mean, you soft ask people out there that that
(12:54):
now it's your time again to be heard. Uh go
kick rocks man there, And I just wanted to give that.
I do. I mean, I do think this is a
fine line. Like I get like we gotta we gotta
protect players and make sure they go through the proper
protocols and all that which we can dive into at
some point because uh, some neurologists just did get canned.
(13:18):
I mean he did get well. And that's the independent
neurologist ends up being the fall guy where it's it's
probably easy. Like I think I told you guys last
week with this. I remember the independent neurologist I went
and saw for one of my concussions in Kansas. I
mean the guy didn't know me. I didn't know him.
I walk in, get the evaluation. Um he it was like,
(13:41):
I mean, he okay, Like here's a here's another concussion
symptom I'm looking at trying to evaluate. Okay, here all right,
you say you're okay, You're okay, alright, cool, Like, I
don't know that it impacts that guy went away or
another outside of if they feel like he was negligent
in some way, he could lose his license. I just
kind of go back to what role player plays in it.
(14:02):
If a player wants to play, they keep telling you know,
I'm okay, I'm okay, and they and they manipulate the process.
How's that guy going to be able to figure it out? Right?
He's he's there, neurologist. He doesn't live and jump inside
the brain to figure out what kind of damage and
how they're recovering. It's just that he's a fall guy.
Like that's the best way you guys could put it. Well, listen,
(14:22):
I mean the NFL p A came out and said it.
They were they were coming after somebody. You know, they
were going to stand for this with the North Hills hammer. Yeah. Yeah,
we drop hammers that North Hill. We don't play that
soft serve syrup s. We drop hammers. Yea though, do
(14:43):
you guys remember that TCB y like soft serve? Oh yeah, yeah,
remember there used to be one called Penguins too. Did
you have a Penguins? Is that a national chain or
it might have just been out here, but yeah, there
was Like what did you guys have in Pennsylvania, Laura,
I don't know. You don't guys, I don't know we did,
but I don't remember like like details of it. Man,
(15:04):
waffle cone, get a little of the you know, the
little chocolate vanilla like like Mixed World. It's frozen yogurt
better than ice cream. So I don't know if I
go that far, it's different. Man. I had soberry. I
had a strawberry milkshake from basking Robbins yesterday. It was exquisite.
Good for you. By the way, I think it's healthy
(15:26):
for people to have a milkshake once a day, and
I'm that it was it was it was Kurt, Joey yourself,
I got diabetes? Can do you don't have diabetes? It
was Kurt. Oh yeah, A lot of that lately. Like
(15:46):
my daughter went to the dentist the other day and
she's young, she's like six, and now like she's got
a pre cavey. I go, huh, I go their baby teeth.
What do I care? I's a pre cavey. I think
be out of there soon. Like we're talking about what
do you want think we would have pulled a pull
that two thousand six to be a break? What the
school for this? This is your advice? You're to pull
(16:07):
out a babe fall out anyway because it's a pre cavity.
I'm like, do they teach a logic anymore in dental school? Okay, now,
how are you gonna pull it out? You're gonna go
string to the door knob and the door or string
to the back of the car. Yeah, I'm talking about man. Yeah,
that would be pretty funny. Uh It is two Pros
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are thrilled, absolutely thrilled because they've picked up three more wins,
and they thought they'd have the entire season and they've
only got two on the year. So congratulations to the
New York Jets and their fan base who are fired up.
I've never seen a fan base more fired up about
being five hundred but you know, and and had no
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business pumped up, can I can I address something too.
Here's the weird thing is everyone's like, oh, I said,
they go oh and nine. I never said they go
oh and nine. We we did our preseason picks. I
took the under on their win total, which I believe
was at five and a half accurate five or five
and a six, five and a half or six, which
I said, I think they'd go under. But I think
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when I was at six, I said, I think they
probably hit that number there at five whatever. Um. All
I said was they want to be favored in the
first nine games, and it was a tough sleep. And
and by the way, have they been favored to date? No? No.
And on top of that, like they've actually had some
things bounced their way. You know this this past week,
you had a quarterback change at halftime, and I actually
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think that sparked everything for Pittsburgh. But and the reality
is of Pickett plays the whole game. I'm not sure
the Jets win that game, but give him credit. You know,
Zach Wilson did play probably his best quarter of football
since he's been in the NFL. He was bad for
the first three quarters and then he he put together
his best quarter. So give the Jets credit, give him credit.
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Maybe that could be one of those galvanizing things where
you want on the road in Cleveland even though you
probably shouldn't have. They fumbled that game away, and then
Pittsburgh you find a way to fight back in it,
and when you know, maybe they can use that moving forward.
But when they played in Miami next at home and
you get a backup quarterback there too is gonna be
out for a while, and and you you you kind
of go through the rest of their schedule. The New
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England game doesn't look as tough. You could be faced
in Bailey's appy or Brian Horror. I'm not sure who
the hell is will be playing quarterback for them right now.
So it's you kind of look at how things are
shaped out. It's worked out well for the Jets. Like
I think this could be one of those seasons where
still have a losing record, but like it. It looks
a little better than it has in the past, so
so good for them. They should be excited about this.
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I can't believe the Steelers are this bad. For one
I can't. I'm I'm Matt Canada. I'm actually well now
I'm helping to pick and save them. But I'm starting
to starting to learn it's over. Forget about it, you know,
games over. You know, I'm one of those guys right now.
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Um uh. But I'll tell you what. What what was
interesting to me was after the Jets one I thought
to myself, my goodness, would you have ever thought that
the Colts and the Steelers would have a worse record?
And I guess we could add in the Oakland Raiders
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would have a worse record. Raiders that I just say Oakland.
I don't know why Las Vegas and you call him
the Tijuana Raiders. I couldn't care less. Who cares? Well?
I know this. Would you have ever thought the Jets
would have more wins than them at any point year
in the history of the NFL? There is hope if
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you're a Jets fan, there's hope because there you go,
no business winning either game, no business winning either game,
and yet here they are at five hundred. And I know,
I know people love coming after Brady when he talks
about the Jets, you know what I mean. But I'm
just saying everything that he said was warranted. I'm just
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you know, just giving you a news flash. You know,
it's fascinating about the whole thing too. People have been
making jokes about the Jets for a century. Seemingly this
is nothing new, why is it? Yes, literally had a
coach with a foot fetish came yes, yeah, who got
a tattoo of his quarterback on him or on his
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wife on him? I mean, I just I mean, you
can't make this stuff up, but it is. It is
funny to me, like everyone's everyone's keeping receiving Hey, I'm
keeping receipts, Like trust me, Like, let's see how the
rest of the season plays out. That's all I'm saying,
because as as I'm watching it right now, this is
one of those this is one of those the parts
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of the year where you go, we are almost you know,
a quarter or I mean less than that now, play
in seventeen games. But we've watched enough football to kind
of have an idea, idea of where things are going.
And there's still time where teams can build and fight back.
But there's something for some teams you're just going, okay, like,
let's see if you can you can still keep finding
a way to win that way, it's something that's not sustainable.
(22:41):
So I mean, you you credit them all you want.
I mean, you've got the Browns now who they just
lost to Atlanta. It's the fancy just took another l.
You can be proud of that win, but that schtu
gets a lot harder when you have to go at
Green Bay, at Denver, some of these other spots, Buffalo.
I don't know, we'll see it all pens out. It
looks like before the bye you know what else? So
I thought about yesterday when I was watching games, how
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many more teams will actually think that they are the
cure and the remedy for Carson Wentz becoming Carson Wentz
and Jesus I thought about that yesterday to that crossed
my mind, like will there be another team that said, Yep,
we're gonna take Carson Wentz after this year and we're
going to make him the starter. And were the where
(23:26):
the team that he's going to start doing better with?
Can I say this though? Because because I thought the
Commanders would be a more competitive and I thought I
thought Wentz would be better in this system with the
town they have, you thought it would be a little
more competitive. Well, the TV left, like I see you
said that the Commanders, and I was trying to forge
(23:47):
out who that was not normally, so I had to
be on TV and reference him as the Commanders. Saturday,
I did do a toss to Renault because you have
the chance to say commandos and I literally had. I
had to say a second guest. I was like, oh,
to be a forty slip, I'm gonna I'm gonna say
the commander for this. It's gonna be awful. By the way,
(24:10):
I can't tell you how many times I apologize for
our show and I see people who are like, hey,
big fan, listen two. I saw a guy at church,
a guy at church this year was like, hey, listen
to your show. I go, oh, no, I go, I'm sorry.
He was like yeah, he was like, you probably need
to come in here more often. Yeah, well listen, I
mean use here in the morning. I I digress, though,
(24:34):
I thought Wentz would be better in the system, and
there's still time maybe you will. But tell you what,
the Colts Colts look awful, awful, it's done, it's over.
Forget about it. And you think no more wins, were
no more wins. It's done. I mean put behind Nike
back in me. Yeah, but why not? I mean Carson
(24:59):
wants to like every time I'm I'm looking at the screen,
it seems like he's scrambling for his life, just trying
to get the ball out of bounds, just trying to
Their on line pay has been bad. Their defense is good, though. Man.
They got some guys. I saw some kids playing pick
up football yesterday and they were making better plays than
some of these guys in the league. Man, I was like,
(25:22):
look at that, Look at the extension the commitment to
making the catch. They made it. They went down, they
hit the ground hard. Nobody worried about concussions. They just
made to play. They got up, they just kept playing.
You know, no independent neurologists, no blue tent, none of
that stuff. And you know, somebody's going to get on
(25:42):
and they're somebody's sitting at home, if they're awake right
now listening to us, maybe one morning drive on the
East coast, and they're upset with me. They're they're irritated
that I seemingly am making light of or making fun
of um concussions. And I'm not. I think concussions are serious.
I think it's a serious conversation. I'm very very well. Um,
(26:05):
you know, uh traveled in and hit heads hit and
health safety and different things like that as it applies
to the game. I've I've done various programs, have been
a part of you know, all kinds of different you know, programs, initiatives,
um trying to make the game safer. So I by
no means I am minimizing the safety of the game.
(26:27):
I just think I'm minimizing the softness of of Americans.
That's I feel like we're just so freaking soft anymore. Anyways,
That's that's what That's what came out of yesterday for me.
So there is that's what that's what came you know,
certain things exposed, certain things, and yesterday it was exposed
(26:51):
that you know what, and and we are such a cattle.
We're such a group of cattle as as a as
a as a community of people. If you if you
pay attention to football, it's like you're just such like
stop being cattle, like you're being ran. You're being cattle ran,
Like stop being moved from from one field to another field,
Like you don't see the horses. You don't hear I'm saying, yeah,
(27:13):
I like that you're running. You're the one with with
like a tag in your ear, like like just use
use some like some thought man, Like somebody says run,
you don't necessarily have to run. You could you could
ultimately ask why why am I running? You know, Like,
I mean I get it. I grew up running when
I saw people run too, and that that was a
cultural thing. You know, you could actually lose your life
(27:35):
if you didn't run once you saw somebody else running.
I mean, I grew up in that. But I'm just saying,
when somebody sits there and and it becomes a thing
all of a sudden, like it became a thing, like
literally all of a sudden, like all over again, it's
a thing. Like So, so will there be another concussion
(27:56):
movie that comes out? Will there be like will Outside
the Lines do a special? Like? I mean, I'm trying
to understand why it's being so dramatized. I mean, don't
we know what concussions are now? Like, didn't we go
through an era a moment in time where we started
(28:16):
getting the education, we started putting the different protocols in
and this not another Like why are we acting surprised
if somebody gets hit and dinged and gets a concussion?
Why are we acting so surprised about it? It happens.
It does happen. It does happen. That's all I'm saying.
It does happen. I understand what you're saying. The reality
(28:38):
of football is there's always gonna be these injuries. You
know that there's there's always gonna be concussions, And I
just I think people are now acting like shocked or
surprised by by the fact that there's times when two
things occur. We don't always properly diagnose it correct or
we don't always properly handle it, which I looked at correct.
If you're gonna use the to a case and what's
(29:00):
transpired over the past couple of weeks or or a
couple of games for the Dolphins, if you think that's
the norm, then I'm sorry, you're an idiot. Like it's
not like by and large, the doctors, the staff, everyone's
trying to do right, and everyone's trying to get this right,
and no one wants to put anyone in harm's way.
I don't care how much money they're making or they're
not making. Everyone's trying to get it right. So if
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you actually think that you are an idiot, there are
gonna be instance where we mess up are humans, and
there's gonna be times when a player plays a role
in that. And and look and look, I've said it's firsthand.
I literally told the team to label the neck injury
so I didn't have to go on concussion protocol. And
so there's people out there like where you're an idiot,
(29:42):
And that's fine. You can think I'm an idiot for
doing that. I want the chance to play. That was
at a point in my career where it was more desperation,
and when you're desperate, you're gonna do things that puts
you in harm's way, put you at risk. And I
did that and I and I suffered the effects of
it later on that season because I was probably more
apt to get a concussion. And I did get a
concussion after that later on that season. So the reality
(30:05):
of the situation is you're human. There's gonna be some
air involved, whether it's with the people who are diagnosing it,
whether it's the players who are involved in it and
their desire to play. I mean, all that stuff plays
a factor. So I just I think I will use
one example to then be the standard for everything. And
that's why I think the biggest issue with society is
is we want to take that that unicorn, that outlier
(30:26):
and go, well, this is how it is every time,
And no, it's not like that's that's the issue with
where we're at. I think with with almost anything. I mean,
you can you can name a bunch of things right now,
and I think people use those outliers to then make policy,
to make decisions. And you're like, can we just pump
the brakes here, like, this is not how everyone feels collectively.
(30:47):
It's just you know, a handful of people here or
something there. That's it. Like, let's just calm down for
a second. Those are the exceptions, not the rules. But
we're making rules on the exceptions now, and that's what
that's exactly. And we talked about the time because it
was on prime time, it was everybody got to see it.
It was it was an ugly look, it was a
scary look. So then there was gonna be an overcorrection.
(31:09):
And that's where we're at now. Now, now it's gonna
be you know, everybody any sort of instability when you
get up and now automatically they're gonna be out of
the game and they're gonna it's just yeah, it's just
I mean this is. But it's the same people that
were complaining about the NFL's approach to this after the
tour play are the same people that also bitch and
(31:30):
moan every time some quarterback takes a glancing blow to
the head and they say this sports become so soft. Now,
I mean they've just become so so like. You can't
have it both ways. I mean, you either understand what this,
what football is and what could possibly happen, or you don't.
And the NBA is coming up, so watch that instead
one for those who think the NFL is soft. Now
(31:53):
all right? Yeah from Tom Peli sero. This occurred thirteen
minutes ago. Pro Bowl safety Harrison Smith, you, by the way,
came from making cushion this past week in London, got
hit in a very sensitive area in the final seconds
of Sundays went over the Saints. Per source. That's why
you had to come out stopping the clock, which he
wasn't trying to do. Smith may never have another child,
(32:16):
but otherwise he's fine. I meant you think it's soft
out there, We've got guys getting hit in the chunk
and trying to play through it. Yeah, listen, listen. The
Golden dome Er too, you know, all the way out
in London, haven't it that one stood up to me?
I haven't seen Pela Sero break too many stories about
a guy getting hit in a certain spot where we
won't have kids anymore. Yeah, it's uh, that's unfortunates. Uh
(32:40):
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In case you missed the end of that Lawks Ends
game fans had quite a scarce scene DK Metcalf carted off.
It was quickly reported that it was for a bathroom break.
He later uh verified that on Twitter, saying that Clinch
walk wouldn't have made it. Yeah walk, although although isn't
(35:17):
it if you've gotta if you've gotta go number two,
doesn't sitting down make it worse? And it feels like
it will be worse if you were trying to walk
if you're to that point. I think about the physics.
If you're sitting down, at least it's like helping to
keep it in. You know, really, even if it were
to come out, at least nobody he's going to see it.
You're sitting down so it's last last time I checked,
(35:39):
there's a hole in the toilet can. Yeah, sitting on
the back of a golf card. Yeah, I understand that.
I know I've seen a toilet or two of my time.
But here's sure. Here's the thing. It's called some dinosaurs.
That the way, the way that he was, the way
that he was sitting and being carted off, did it
seem like he was in a reel Like it was
really uncomfortable and almost look like somebody who thought they
(36:01):
were going to make it and then realized, you know what,
I'm not going to make it. It's much better. Yeah,
let it fly that way. Nobody sees anything. I don't know.
If you want to draw attention to yourself, you're there,
that's correct. What do you like? I mean, so I
would rather think you think you thought it was an
injury than you to see that apt. I don't know
(36:23):
if you're a wide receiver you want to draw attention
to yourself, although I think we've got some other wide
receivers over the weekend that may have done that. What
do you mean, Leah, we got something else? What are
you talking about? Yeah? In case you missed this one,
you guys video went viral of Antonio Brown exposing his
buttocks and genitalia to a woman in a pool in Dubai.
He later tweeted a joke, I'm telling every team that
(36:45):
needs some offense to pick up a B because he's
shown that he still has the ability to expose a D.
I mean that that rabbit hole continues to go deeper
he is. I mean, although I will give him credit,
you know, at least he found time to get to
the batting cages over in Dubai. There's that just saying,
(37:07):
at least he found time to go that direction. I
feel like he's got some bad friends. I don't know
the backstory behind it, if it was solicited or not,
but it's just not a good look. Man. It didn't
look like it was solicited. She didn't seem like she
(37:28):
was very very happy about what was happening and what
was transpiring there in the pool. Um, he's that guy.
Remember when the conversation was, Hey, is he is he
going to get another shot in the NFL? Yes, that's over.
He's got to get across them train tracks, man. I mean,
(37:49):
what like, literally had a Hall of Fame career staring
him in the eyes. And it's gone, gone, will never
play in the league again, and melt down after meltdown,
and it seems like every time we think we've seen
it all, he does something that makes it even worse,
Like it just gets worse every time, Like he's a
(38:09):
he's a hindrance to himself. And yeah, maybe maybe he
doesn't need better friends or friends at all, because it
doesn't seem like he's with a lot of people in
a lot of these uh and a lot of these.
It's a good point in Berno, well, his buddies were
not in the video for it. We're gonna do this,
but then uh yeah, Burnos found the bright spot and
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