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Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks. Coming up on this
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Five kicks off later on tonight. We've got every angle
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a f C that make him maybe the most likable
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so we practice that. Come on, man, how could you
not be ready? Come on week five of the NFL
kicking off later on tonight? How bad it? Huh? Yeah,
it's the disappointment ball. Yes, it's the disappointment poll. Come on.
I don't know if we're there yet with tonight's game,
But do you mean, like, through the first four weeks
though we've had the most games within a three point
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margin of victory in NFL history, Like, there's a lot
of parody right now in the damn right there is
most two and two teams I believe we've had. Don't
know how long. And you know that just means that
a lot of degenerate flunkey gamblers are just sweating their
balls off watching these games down to the wire, needing
a break, needing to cover, needing some sort of a
play that's being made. By the way, if you degenerate,
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make sure you got to draft Kings, because right now
Denver is a three and a half point favorite, hosting
Indianapoles later on tonight. So there's gonna be a couple
of betting numbers. Feed me, come on home, underdogs seventeen
ten and one against the spread, this shift at six.
I believe that the math is underdogs in general against
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the spread so far. So look, usually math people would
say it's gonna start to revert to them mean at
some point, like you'll see those numbers start to come down,
But so so, so far, the dogs have had their day. Man,
let's say listen, it's a doggie dog world there, LaVar, Right,
this is what we do. We bet on the dogs.
That's right, and you keep going, that's right, dog boat, LaVar,
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get fired up with week five? Let's good, yeah round
he Let me ask you this, who do you think
Peyton Manning is rooting for tonight. Who do you think
it is? Because I believe it's the Denver Broncos. And
he spent he spent a third of his career in
Denver as opposed to Indianapolis. And I just don't know
that whether or not he's on great terms with the
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front office and Jim Jimmy Ursay up there in Indianapolis.
But I think Peyton Manning is rooting for the Denver
Broncos tonight. That's what I believe. Now, whether night he's
betting on it, I have no idea. I'm not gonna
make reckless oppostions, but you can't assume that because the see.
To me, I've always felt like the fan base outweighs
everything else, even if even if I like, I didn't
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like the owner in Washington, and I don't support owner
little Little Laura Laura danny Um, but I support the
team and I support the city. Like I said, I
support the community. They can't, you know, Daniel Snyder can
never take that away from from what took place. So
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I would never root against Washington to win. I would
never wish them to lose because I'm a fan of
the players. I'm a fan of the community. I just
I'm just not a fan of the owner. So I
don't think that he would be rooting against Indianapolis because
of any type of bad blood between him and or
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or say or you know, or the team. You don't think.
It's kind of a little strange though, that he's more
closely associated with the Denver Broncos and he is in
the Indianapolis Colts. Maybe there's not some bad blood there
that you know. You guys thought I was finished, You
wanted to move in another direction. You had the Curtis
Painter year, just see could draft Andrew Luck. You were
ready to shuffle me off. And I go to Denver,
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I go to a couple of Super Bowls, set a
bunch of passing records. I just wonder if that really
bothered and Ate at Peyton Manning, the way that whole
his whole time there ended, and he looks at it
with a little bit of I don't want to say
bad blood, but I just wonder if he looks at
it and just kind of give him the side ie
over the way his time ended there. That's what I've
always been agree with you. I agree with you on that,
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but I don't think he has overall heart feelings towards
the fan base and the team. Though, well, I think
we got I think I mean, que would you say,
you're you're able to separate the emotions of what you
feel towards what a front office would do versus what
like the team, like the teammates, the people that work
in the building, you know, different things like that you
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definitely could differentiate. I mean, I like the lunch lady
and all the people that you're laughing, that's the that's
the true true man. I would like, I'll put it
this way. I got, well, like the people work in
the cafeteria there's cafeterias there, or the people that clean
up in the locker, the people that set the lawn
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on on the field, I call them culinary specialists. I
don't call him lunch again, like I care about terminology
slopping about it. It's Adam sim No. I mean, like
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I remember, like Cleveland traded my ass away, and that
was a decision that obviously by that point it was
year three, so we'd probably been through like three different
general managers and on our second head coach, and just
you know, that's how that place works. But I think
I don't hold any like it will or grudge towards
the people there. I think it was just it was
frustrating that I didn't at least get like an opportunity
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to finish out my contract. Like that's that's what bothered
me the most about it. Like I mean, even though
I didn't get along with Eric Mangini's, it wasn't one
of those things that I sat there, I was like,
you can't wait to get somewhere else. I was like, Man,
I signed a contract, like, I want to finish this.
It was no different when when I went to school
Notre Dame, like I had committed for four years. I
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wanted to finish that, Like It's part of the reason
why I came back, Like I wanted to try to
see it through and accomplished all the goals that I
had in that four year time span. I could have
left after three and one pro I chose to come
back because I felt like there was still some unfinished
business that I had, and so that that was like
one of the things that I think bothered me most
about it. It wasn't the people, because at that point
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in time, Mike Homegrin came in and I can't Honestly,
I can't even think of who the general manager's name was.
I talked to him once on the phone, and I
don't know that he lasted long there, Like I know
George Kita is in there for a hot minute and
then he got canned after eight weeks or whatever it was.
And I can't think of the guy's name he came
in after him. So Homegrin came in and he wasn't
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the he was like overseeing all of it, and we
had added. Honestly, we had one of the best conversations
I've had with anyone like And I eventually made my
way to Seattle, where our our past crossed again, and
he looked at me. It was like that place, man,
it's just like just that. It was just like, I
could tell you so many stories. I looked at my
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going I could tell you a lot of stories. I
was like, he goes. He said some to me about,
h well, you know, not really know what I signed
up for. I go, well, I could have told you.
I was like, I was like, you were you were,
you know, trading me off, and I was on my
way out. I could have told you my three years
of stories there and he just we just kind of
laughed about it, but he was it was one of
the better conversations I've had with someone who had had success.
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You know. He talked about his time with Brett Farve,
and he told me, he's like, look, you know, through
three years, it's like you've gotten injured, You've had this, this,
and that. I've seen flashes of things. He goes, but
he goes, I feel like you and the head coach
don't get long ago. Yeah, I don't. We don't. And
he was like, well, He's like it's it's gonna be
hard to evaluate and how to work the situation moving forward,
but like we'll be in touch and I'll let you know.
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And and all he said was he got to a
point with Brett Farve where when they were in Green Bay,
things weren't going well, and they took a vote, and
I guess the entire staff was like, yeah, we want
Mark Brunell. Let's put in Brunell. And he was the
only one that was like, no, I want to farm.
I'm stick with this. And I guess he's pulled far
aside and said, look, one day, either you're not gonna
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be holy stuff of Lombardi Trophy. We're gonna be sitting
next to the trash cans outside actually can us and
the reality is they ended up, you know, going on
to win a Super Bowl together. So I was just like, well,
I was a great story. I don't really know how
that plastic, but yeah, but I say, doesn't always work
out that. It was like, it was like, dude, that
I don't you're not my coach, and I don't think
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you're gonna hang out on me, you know, you know,
I want to say it again. I'm just sort of
racking my brain for like GM history in Cleveland, and
and I just like I keep coming back to the
name Tom Heckert, Like for some reason, I keep coming
back to Tom name the Eagles before that. Maybe I mean, yeah,
because I know that he was sandwiched in between George
Cookeynes and then Michael Lombardi. I mean, this is a
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off top of my head. I'm just sort of just
thinking going back in time, like thinking about the funny
thing was though I'm pretty sure Homegroun was over top
of him, and so he had whatever general manager power
he had, but it wasn't quite the same. And obviously,
like as a general manager, sometimes the head coaches more power,
Like clearly, you know, Eric Mangini fired George Cookena, who
was like his college best friend, after half the season,
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and and you know he had more power than the
GM at that point. He trust me, what a good dude.
Trust me that that I gave you a window and
that thing was fron That's great, all right, So let
me ask you this, if you had It's just like
every time I hear you guys tell these stories about
how cutthroat the NFL is, I go, this is ridiculous.
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I'd like you bringing Jonas Jonas is your general manager.
After your weeks You're like, hey, Jonas saying, gonna work, bro.
I love you man, You're fun like we had a
good time, like my guy. Yeah. I mean, you know
you still come to the game, but you can throw
the hooks up. You just can't be just a lot
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of air. All right. So let me, guys ask you
as this, who needs this one more tonight? Indianapolis or
Denver based on the start of this question, because I
think it's Indianapolis, I do. I think it's Denver. Okay,
South stinks. I know. I believe the collective record of
every team in the NFC South is sub five if
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you had them all up together, and that's the only
division like that I think in the C if I'm
not mistaken. Yeah, so they've got Houston is oh three
and one. Yeah, there's a couple of ties there. Yeah,
not a great division through and through. But I just
look at it and I go, is Jim Mursay really
gonna sit here and put up with this season after
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what went down last year, his meetings he had with
the front office, his meetings he had with with Frank Reich.
They're going out and getting Matt Ryan blaming everything on
Carson Wentz. I just wonder if this thing continues to
go down the road that it's going where they don't
look good. Jonathan Taylor's banged up now he was supposed
to be your workhorse running back. It wouldn't surprise me
if Jim Mursy ended up doing something drastic in season
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trying to save the year. And whether that means Frank
Reich is going to be the fall guy. I just
don't know that Jimmer Say is going to sit around
and wait until the end of the year after a
clown out when they when they gag away that game
in Jacksonville like they did last year. I don't think
he's gonna wait around that long. I think I think
Cats are gonna roll. You cannot get over the clown
out here. It's just it's funny. Listen, how are we
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gonna make a statement as a bad football team? Dress
up as clowns? Wow? You showed them. You did it. Guys. Congratulations,
Grab a snorkel and go swim in the pool up
to up top at jack Stadium and have fun everybody.
So I just I look at it, I go I think,
I think this is bigger for Indianapolis because if it
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plays out and they gets ugly, the conversation is going
to get louder and louder for changes there. And it
can't be the quarterback because you already made those changes
multiple times. But I don't know that they brought in
a quarterback that you could definitively say outside of Wentz,
I would say the win situation is peculiar. Again, I
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think we know who Carson Wentz is now, yeah, I
mean one, uh, but but you bring in Ryan and
I don't I don't believe that you can say, all right, well,
we brought in Matt Ryan. So now we brought in
every really good quarterback that we could bring in, and
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the open markets see if this will work. That's not
there's something more there than the quarterback. But you still
can say you haven't brought in you haven't had a
quarterback since Andrew Luck. You could really say that so
to me, and you had success. You saw success with
Philip Rivers. So what happened so dramatically and drastically from
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when Philip Rivers left into retirement to now, I don't know,
but I really think I'm with q Um that this
is a bigger game for for Denver. Like they can't
fall behind, they cannot fall behind, and and and with
what you have going on there, with the high, high
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profile offseason that they've had, UM they actually with a
win here, they don't put themselves out of the conversation
of are they are they turned in the corner yet?
Are they a good team yet? I don't think they do.
That would have win, But I think they put themselves
closer to the conversation of stabilizing UM as a team
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versus going the other way, And I think that that's
more difficult, that's a more difficult proposition. Even if the
Colts were to win tonight, Well, let me put it
this way. Um, given the fact that Denver just lost
to Las Vegas, Las Vegas is a one in three
football team. They win this week, Denver loses this week,
technically the records would be tied. But right now, early on,
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Las Vegas would have the head to head over them.
And and and you couldn't say that if you're Indianapolis
and Houston, because if Indianapolis loses, they would still be
tied with Houston. Yet you know that's assuming by the way,
Houston would win. And like the best case scenario is
like Indianapolis would be tied for last place and then
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they had to tie against you since I'm not even
sure how the tie breaker would work from there. But
there's still a game ahead. They're still sitting in third place.
Like I just and I don't know the Houston beats
jackson villeern I think a seven point underdogs something like that.
So I just think, even if you look at the
standings and how a winner loss would affect it. To
LaVar's point, Denver is the one that needs it more
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like they're the one that I think if you think
of the think of the perception, right now of Denver.
I mean right now, like the thing your hack it
has to hire Jerry Rossberg in season because so many
people were like just criticizing him for his bad you know,
clock management or overall game management, and so they make
that move. I mean, it really seems like there's a
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lot of people who have a microscope on him and
this team. And I don't I don't know that we're
talking that much about the Colts because we're what kind
of strucks us, you know, shrugs their shoulders and goes well,
I mean, they don't have their best player and Jonathan
Taylor he's out for tonight. I don't know that anyone
expects them really to go in and win, outside of
any the guys in that locker room. And I just,
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you know, I kind of look and think, like for
the perception if they lose and they're still they're one
in three and one football team, people kind of look
at the vision, go yeah, but it's THEFC South. You know,
they'll they'll they'll figure it out eventually. The devil loses, Like, man,
maybe this Nathaniel Hacket higher isn't working out. You know,
I'm a little bit offended here because you know, obviously
I have access to a lot of this information, and
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I've got like secret codes and things I can put
into get answers and their information immediately. And so like
you're just thrown out there, like, oh, well, I believe
the line for Houston and Jacksonville is at seven, Like
why don't you just ask? Man? Don't give me a
second area? Okay, Oh yeah, I just love how quick
his fingers work. Man, I'll tell you what you are
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one keyboard warrior. Boy, I tell you Jacksonville mine of seven. Yet,
so I just wanted to confirm that for you there.
So I was able to I was able to look
that up pretty quickly. Here get it done for you again.
Pulling strings. That's what these fingers do. They pull strings
here on Fox Sports Radio, you know, kind of throught
some general petting advice for all these divisional matches we have.
Don't don't follow my lead. No, My My thought is
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so like, that's it's a seven point spread. You really
could go either way. They're uh sitting at seven because
there's a chance obviously that number you push. But my
advice is, like take the dogs. The dogs have been
have been obviously winning at a higher clip of the
bets this year against the spread, but not even that,
just in divisional games early in the season. You're still
trying to get a feel for, like how much parody
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there is. So far, it seems like there's a lot
of parody amongst the league. Now, you know, I think
someone are arguing the other side might say, well, this
is where teams started to differentiate themselves, and look, maybe
you're right, but there's a couple out there, like Tampa's
at eight and a half point. Uh you know, I
think they're laying eight and a half our judge, Yeah,
it's nine and a half, Okay. I mean that's a
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big spread versus Atlanta, and I know, you know, Patterson
probably will be off for this one, but I mean
that's another one. You kind of go all right, like
we'll see how these how everything kind of scores up
with some of these divisional battles. But I'd be on
the side of the dogs with the bigger spreads. God,
I love sports betting. I imagine not betting on sports
what a loser like. I just imagine like going through
life going no, I don't want to bet on that game.
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That's not any fun. I don't want to gamble on sports,
get a grip a right, you are missing out. There's
a party going on and you're not invited. You're not
allowed behind the velvet ropes like we just broke down
here on this show. So that works all right. Two
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So I would love to see Roberto on a Big
Green Egg, LaVar I mean both you two man, the
way you got cook Come on, Berno, maybe a cook off?
Can we set that up. Let's do it. I mean,
you know it might take a little time. We can
we set this thing up. Let's set it up. Grande
verde wavill Yeah, Big Green Egg? How bad it Berno?
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Sandy seem to sound like Berto when you it rules off? Berto,
show us my last name is Knoxaz. What do you
try to say? I don't know. I'm talking about Berna.
Berta does it so much better than me? Come on,
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blame LaVar. He's got to point out these differences on
the air. I'm right there with him. Then we're gonna
blame it on LaVar. You can blame me too. It
sounds beautiful, and Roberto says it's say again Berto, Well,
al right, can we say it's slowly again? Berto? Well, okay, day, okay, okay,
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verde wave o grandote way exactly? You were like trying
not to say. I really don't know what he said.
How I said it was broken up because Big Green
Egg is Grande verde Wave. Okay, but what's right or wrong? No,
I'm saying there's Spanish and there's Jonash and mine is
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a little bit different, doesn't It doesn't operate on the
same I thought that was that is true that. Yeah,
that's also that. So yeah, there's anoxic in. There's another
another form of that. So listen, I'm trying here to
tell you thanks for those crappy doughnuts you brought in today.
I listen, I didn't buy them. Okay, they were left over.
I brought him in. And Berto's bitching over a free donut.
So exactly, he's bitching over a free donut because it's
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not it's on a maple bar. And okay, hold hold on.
If it's left over, been left over from yesterdays old. Yeah,
so what I want? They got sick for me in
those things. It's not my problem. I don't know what
to tell you. Yeah, listen, they were there, their donuts.
They look good. They seem like they're all right. They're
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not all dried out. What do you get those donuts from?
I'll tell you. We had a little gathering my mom's Thursday.
I don't want to tell you. Yeah, And wasn't that
two days ago? That was it was Tuesday? Tuesday, Thursday,
that two days ago. You have two days old donuts, people,
quite two days. I think it's about twenty hours. I
think they're about at about twenty hours how's that possible, Jonas,
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think about that Tuesday, you'd have to be at least
thirty six hours. Yeah, but it's still early on Thursday,
and cold don't at chops aren't open this early, and
I wasn't getting them that early. I was here. Okay,
but if you got them on Tuesday, they were made
Tuesday morning. Yeah, but they're not exactly twenty four hours,
so you round down on that and I would call
it a day. Yeah, your math does not make any sense.
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You think twenty four hours would be back to yesterday
Wednesday at this point? Why don't you not mock my
mathemastic back up another twenty hours? Like it might not
be forty eight, but it's definitely over. Yeah. Like I
brought him in in a coffin, all right, I'm just
looking out Express. I mean that you don't come in
the package like that. Yeah, they're not pand Express. It
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was to Go. I brought him into to Go box
and now Burtos mocking my doggie bag. I brought the
donuts in. Yeah, it was seriously, like, I think you
could put that in the least stomach and like it
would be fine. Like Lea's stomach is like the thing
they put potential bombs in that they blow up. Let
me tell you something leaves the DeLorean off back to
the future. You just throw garbage him and he runs
at a high level. He's fine that at least having
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a second to what I'm on's so excited about it.
Er two. Now, by the way, because because I because
I brought in the donuts, he refused to eat them.
You hit the button on yourself. Berno, it's racist. Yeah,
I don't get it. Yeah, because I brought the donuts in.
If Eddie Garcia brought him in, he'd be all over him.
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If they would have been from Randy's, that would have probably. Yeah, well,
I didn't have thirty dollars on me to go pay
Randy's donuts. Oh so now the truth is coming out. Yeah,
but listen, I didn't pay for these either. But I'm
telling you, if somebody offers you, is Randy's Donuts good?
I always drive by that place. Wayne's World. Yeah, they're
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delay suck, but everything else they're kind of weird. They're
kind of the way they're shaped like, some of them
are shaped a little odd. But it's like a tourist attraction,
you know, you go there, and that's one by the
Burbank Careport good by Burbank care Yeah. Yeah, I've driven
by that one when I fly through l A X.
And I always want to stop and I'm like, they're
really that good. They just recommend don't don't hang the
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wrong right or left there because we're telling truth here.
That's as bad as it gets. Do we lie it?
We lie in here there. There's no lies being told there.
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That a little dicey, but you know, for maybe for
some of you guys, I'm fine, but for some of
you guys, maybe a little dicey. I'm good. But yeah,
so there it is. What do they call you down there?
Don't you have a nickname? Yeah? Oh yeah, the koc
King of Crenshaw. Yeah, that's just what it is. To
tell you, I don't. I don't pick these names. They're
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just handed to me. Is the funny thing? Is that
drop you just plays up Bobo on that drop him?
Is that Bobo? Is that Bobo? Now? That's because that's
the first that I always used to question you and
that actual nickname. Yeah. Well, and then he found out
at a at a Martin Luther King Day parade, some
guy who went up to Bobo and said, hey, are
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you Bobo from the Jonas Knock Show? And I said
that gives me all the credit. Need who else listening
to that show in the middle of the night. But yeah,
King of Crenshaw, that's how it works, man, I don't
make I think that guy confirmed it. Yeah, you're the
King of Crea. Come on, you know el Ray right right,
Bertolray of Crnshaw. I've never heard that. I have never
(26:24):
heard that. You never heard it once. I've been on Crenshaw.
Never never heard King of Crenshaw. You gotta go back then.
I'm telling you. People were talking about the topic of conversation. Well,
you're in the North Hills Hammer. How did I know
that you were the North Hills Hammer? And then you
didn't know I was the koc I don't know, I
don't know. Yeah, we're exactly on Crenshaw. Should I go
(26:47):
to gather this information? Pick a spot, any spot, doesn't matter,
any spot whatever it looks like to be the most friendly,
that's right, not the most dicey or or well not
just see whatever. Wherever there's a and it looks like
there's a bunch of people who are having a good time. Yeah,
talking over some stuff. Yeah, that's all they do. I'm
(27:07):
just talking, just trying to communicate, all right. It is
two pros and a cup of joe here on fs ARE.
By the way, you mentioned a story in the NFL.
When you hear from this person, I think you're gonna
be a big fan of what they had to say that.
I'll be coming up here. I want to make sure
we pay off the teas here is Brady taught me
years ago and radio. So we'll get to that top
of next hour here on fs ARE a little over
twenty minutes from now. It's called format, the stripper of
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sports radio. Can we get can we just celebrate and
ball wash here a little bit on the air? Can
we get a round of applause? We have a live
studio audience here, all massed up, still still concerned and galore,
but they are here standing in unison to pay homage
to Brady Quinn who called a shot on some Wednesday
night college football. Last night. He had UCF minus two
(27:53):
and a half every forty one nineteen the final for
UCF A little Wednesday Night football from College Football Action.
Now that game was moved from what was it last week?
There was weather de lay or something or what was that?
What hurricane? Yeah, and so they moved this game. Get
a little Wednesday football. Now we normally get some action,
but that's not coming up for several weeks here. But
(28:16):
let me look at you just dabbling telling everybody that's
the pick you want to make some money bet and
UCF that's the pick you make, I said late two
and a half, and I told him, you take out
LaVar's hammer and you hammer that thing. That's what I
was telling people. Now it's funny. I love football. I
love and like I love college football. I love like
(28:37):
the intricacies of just even the mac for example, what
you brought up Like, I was having this conversation with
my buddy and that guy, you know, the meat Wagon
and he actually he went up and played Eastern Michigan
as a linebacker UM for for I think he was
there for a year. They end up transferring UM but
a coach tell him, this is one of the greatest
stories I've ever heard of. Player tell me a coach
(28:59):
tell him he wanted to run down on kickoff like
he was on Black Tar Heroin. He's like, his coach,
I have no idea what that what that's like so
even he would last long there. But but we were
talking about the program restern Michigan because Curtis Straiton, who's
there now, he's done an unbelievable job. Like if you
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look over the last god like thirty years, I think
that the like the last time Eastern Michigan school like
that's had a winning season was like or something like that,
and he's had three within his tenure over the last
like six seven years, eight years whatever it's been, and
they've actually been like pretty consistently competitive. The reason why
I bring it up is because you've got all these
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other head coaching jobs that are open, and you know
that I don't know that enough schools look for a
guy who's like taking a program that was basically a
dumpster fire for forever and has been able to bring
it up to be competitive. They've been going to bowl games.
They haven't won those bowl games, but they've at least
been owing and and in a place that's been hard
(30:02):
to win, and like he's actually found some success build
a foundation some of these like schools like Colorado or
Arizona State or not that Wisconsin is gonna go that direction.
I think that Jim Leoner will be the guy. But
there's there's a lot of good coaches out there that
I just they don't get the press, they don't get
the publicity. He's one that like, I'm like, man, he's
done a good job at Eastern Michigan. You know, I
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think like there's other places that should give that guy
a good hard look to see if you know, he
can't come in there and build up a program that's
got better resources to allow him to be better than
what they've been so far. By the way, he's had
three seven win seasons since he's been there, and that
was the first time they had a seven win season
since ninety nine. There you go so obvious, even worse
(30:43):
than that night nine. And by the way, if you
look at their entire I think the history of this
and looked this up with the Jonas, I think they
started football in seventy five and they've I think they've
had like seven winning seasons or eight winning seasons in
its school history. Hits out of half of them. Yeah,
that a lot um. But that's like the thing, though,
(31:04):
is that you work all that time to find somebody
who can turn the program around. He gets you on
the doorstep of like, man, this is a respectable program
and then he's gonna get gobbled up by a bigger
school and he's gonna go And that stinks, I mean,
but but it's it's the reality of how things are
in business. Yeah, I mean, would you send you would
send a kid to the MAC, right, LaVar, if one
(31:25):
of your kids came, you said, I got an offer
to Eastern Michigan, you gotta take it right, you know,
it's crazy. My cousin from North Catholic and Pittsburgh UM
has received an offer I believe from eastern Eastern h
what is it a Eastern? Yeah? And baby, they got
the great turf there. That's kind of their thing. The Eagles. Yeah,
(31:47):
they when they come out in the field, they take
us sledgehammers to cinder boards. You can look this up.
It's a long process. Like you know, I remember the
days you used to run out through the smoke, or
you'd have the thing you'd run or that you break.
They're like, so it's probably about ten swings apiece for
each of the guys doing it. They eventually get through
(32:08):
the cinder blocks. Yeah, and I believe they play in UM.
Just off the top. Man, what's the name of that
Ryan Nierson Stadium, and I think it's like capacity a
little over thirty thousand. If I'm notus it is. I
think they've got a lot of it, kind of you know,
not roped off, but like bannered off. And then they
probably see it about ten to twenty the Eagles Eastern
Michigan shout out to all you Eastern Michigan lum and
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uh and Brady's body who was told to go on
black Tar Heroin when he was on special Teams. Imagine
to say that to you? Is that hype you up?
Are you? Like? What the hell? If I'm being totally honest,
I don't even know what black tar heroine is. I
know what heroin is. I don't know what black Tar
heroin is. I think it's like even more crazy version.
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I'm not sure, I Jonas, do we have any knowledge.
I don't know any black Tar heroine insiders? Anybody, Lee,
you have anybody in the black Tar heroine market you
can get on the phone, you would actually, Yeah, that's
that's a good point. That is a good point. You've
got anything on black Tar heroine? Uh, Eddie, let's go
(33:12):
live to our black Tar Heroin inside Eddie Garcia for
the latest. I believe Todd Marinovitch was very much into
the Yeah, fair enough. Well look, yeah, I mean I
don't know what the problem is, you know, It's just
I mean, we can drive on tar, but you can't inject.
(33:35):
It's the problem obviously, head up different substances. Yeah, yeah,
so so there it is. All right. It is Two
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Did he just say at the beginning of that, that's
the best fan base? Yes he did. How the hell
would he know? They've had what a hockey team and
then a football team for over the what past five
six years? Like you're just crowding them. The best fan base? Well,
I think he was talking about fans of the Blue
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a band over here. Your thoughts on thunder from down Under?
I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't. But
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do you think this is like a little bit of
a conflict of in trist because he I don't think
he's kidding. I think he's absolutely he's gonna be the
real life Jackie Moon a team and actually play and
manage and everything like that. This is gonna be semi
pro Will Ferrell come into life. This amazing, Although I
will say this because I think it was. Will Gnarowski
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the new TV deals to come through and see where
they're at before they welcome in a couple of new
teams in Seattle's one team that's being looked at, as
well as Las Vegas. If he if Lebron wanted to
guarantee he was going to play with his son, just
go own the team and that way you call him
the shots, it would make some sense. He's gonna have
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the capital to do it or at least the ability
to get capital partners. I would think that given his
clean history, I mean, there's nothing really to hide. Um,
I mean, it makes a lot of sense. It makes
a lot of sense, you know. I know he'll have
competition obviously, Yeah, but I think you'd be a good
ambassador to do it. I just I always challenge the
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two professional sports teams now I think within the past
six years as the best sports fans, Like, how do
you even know they like basketball? You guys are a businessman,
would you not if you had an opportunity to get
involved with owning a professional team, wouldn't you jump at it?
As a majority owner? Yeah, As a minority owner, not
(38:24):
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you're kind of putting that money into a team. And
there's things called tag along drag along rights where you
don't have any say. The majority owner is going to
be the one that ultimately dictates how any funds are distributed,
if there are any, or when they sell or what happens.
There's there's a lot that goes into it, so you've
(38:44):
gotta gotta be the guy in control by a team,
and like, you know, I don't have by a team
money duck. I wish I did, but I don't. But
I'm an honest man. What kind of but you had
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so we practice that. Come on, man, how could you
not be ready? Come on week five of the NFL
kicking off later on tonight? How bad it? Huh? Yeah,
it's the disappointment ball. Yes, it's the disappointment poll. Come on.
I don't know if we're there yet with tonight's game,
But do you mean, like, through the first four weeks
though we've had the most games within a three point
(01:52):
margin of victory in NFL history, Like, there's a lot
of parody right now in the damn right there is
most two and two teams I believe we've had. Don't
know how long. And you know that just means that
a lot of degenerate flunkey gamblers are just sweating their
balls off watching these games down to the wire, needing
a break, needing to cover, needing some sort of a
play that's being made. By the way, if you degenerate,
(02:13):
make sure you got to draft Kings, because right now
Denver is a three and a half point favorite, hosting
Indianapoles later on tonight. So there's gonna be a couple
of betting numbers. Feed me, come on home, underdogs seventeen
ten and one against the spread, this shift at six.
I believe that the math is underdogs in general against
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the spread so far. So look, usually math people would
say it's gonna start to revert to them mean at
some point, like you'll see those numbers start to come down,
But so so, so far, the dogs have had their day. Man,
let's say listen, it's a doggie dog world there, LaVar, Right,
this is what we do. We bet on the dogs.
That's right, and you keep going, that's right, dog boat, LaVar,
(03:00):
get fired up with week five? Let's good, yeah round
he Let me ask you this, who do you think
Peyton Manning is rooting for tonight. Who do you think
it is? Because I believe it's the Denver Broncos. And
he spent he spent a third of his career in
Denver as opposed to Indianapolis. And I just don't know
that whether or not he's on great terms with the
(03:22):
front office and Jim Jimmy Ursay up there in Indianapolis.
But I think Peyton Manning is rooting for the Denver
Broncos tonight. That's what I believe. Now, whether night he's
betting on it, I have no idea. I'm not gonna
make reckless oppostions, but you can't assume that because the see.
To me, I've always felt like the fan base outweighs
everything else, even if even if I like, I didn't
(03:43):
like the owner in Washington, and I don't support owner
little Little Laura Laura danny Um, but I support the
team and I support the city. Like I said, I
support the community. They can't, you know, Daniel Snyder can
never take that away from from what took place. So
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I would never root against Washington to win. I would
never wish them to lose because I'm a fan of
the players. I'm a fan of the community. I just
I'm just not a fan of the owner. So I
don't think that he would be rooting against Indianapolis because
of any type of bad blood between him and or
(04:25):
or say or you know, or the team. You don't think.
It's kind of a little strange though, that he's more
closely associated with the Denver Broncos and he is in
the Indianapolis Colts. Maybe there's not some bad blood there
that you know. You guys thought I was finished, You
wanted to move in another direction. You had the Curtis
Painter year, just see could draft Andrew Luck. You were
ready to shuffle me off. And I go to Denver,
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I go to a couple of Super Bowls, set a
bunch of passing records. I just wonder if that really
bothered and Ate at Peyton Manning, the way that whole
his whole time there ended, and he looks at it
with a little bit of I don't want to say
bad blood, but I just wonder if he looks at
it and just kind of give him the side ie
over the way his time ended there. That's what I've
always been agree with you. I agree with you on that,
(05:08):
but I don't think he has overall heart feelings towards
the fan base and the team. Though, well, I think
we got I think I mean, que would you say,
you're you're able to separate the emotions of what you
feel towards what a front office would do versus what
like the team, like the teammates, the people that work
in the building, you know, different things like that you
(05:29):
definitely could differentiate. I mean, I like the lunch lady
and all the people that you're laughing, that's the that's
the true true man. I would like, I'll put it
this way. I got, well, like the people work in
the cafeteria there's cafeterias there, or the people that clean
up in the locker, the people that set the lawn
(05:49):
on on the field, I call them culinary specialists. I
don't call him lunch again, like I care about terminology
slopping about it. It's Adam sim No. I mean, like
(06:12):
I remember, like Cleveland traded my ass away, and that
was a decision that obviously by that point it was
year three, so we'd probably been through like three different
general managers and on our second head coach, and just
you know, that's how that place works. But I think
I don't hold any like it will or grudge towards
the people there. I think it was just it was
frustrating that I didn't at least get like an opportunity
(06:34):
to finish out my contract. Like that's that's what bothered
me the most about it. Like I mean, even though
I didn't get along with Eric Mangini's, it wasn't one
of those things that I sat there, I was like,
you can't wait to get somewhere else. I was like, Man,
I signed a contract, like, I want to finish this.
It was no different when when I went to school
Notre Dame, like I had committed for four years. I
(06:55):
wanted to finish that, Like It's part of the reason
why I came back, Like I wanted to try to
see it through and accomplished all the goals that I
had in that four year time span. I could have
left after three and one pro I chose to come
back because I felt like there was still some unfinished
business that I had, and so that that was like
one of the things that I think bothered me most
about it. It wasn't the people, because at that point
(07:15):
in time, Mike Homegrin came in and I can't Honestly,
I can't even think of who the general manager's name was.
I talked to him once on the phone, and I
don't know that he lasted long there, Like I know
George Kita is in there for a hot minute and
then he got canned after eight weeks or whatever it was.
And I can't think of the guy's name he came
in after him. So Homegrin came in and he wasn't
(07:37):
the he was like overseeing all of it, and we
had added. Honestly, we had one of the best conversations
I've had with anyone like And I eventually made my
way to Seattle, where our our past crossed again, and
he looked at me. It was like that place, man,
it's just like just that. It was just like, I
could tell you so many stories. I looked at my
(07:57):
going I could tell you a lot of stories. I
was like, he goes. He said some to me about,
h well, you know, not really know what I signed
up for. I go, well, I could have told you.
I was like, I was like, you were you were,
you know, trading me off, and I was on my
way out. I could have told you my three years
of stories there and he just we just kind of
laughed about it, but he was it was one of
the better conversations I've had with someone who had had success.
(08:20):
You know. He talked about his time with Brett Farve,
and he told me, he's like, look, you know, through
three years, it's like you've gotten injured, You've had this, this,
and that. I've seen flashes of things. He goes, but
he goes, I feel like you and the head coach
don't get long ago. Yeah, I don't. We don't. And
he was like, well, He's like it's it's gonna be
hard to evaluate and how to work the situation moving forward,
but like we'll be in touch and I'll let you know.
(08:43):
And and all he said was he got to a
point with Brett Farve where when they were in Green Bay,
things weren't going well, and they took a vote, and
I guess the entire staff was like, yeah, we want
Mark Brunell. Let's put in Brunell. And he was the
only one that was like, no, I want to farm.
I'm stick with this. And I guess he's pulled far
aside and said, look, one day, either you're not gonna
(09:05):
be holy stuff of Lombardi Trophy. We're gonna be sitting
next to the trash cans outside actually can us and
the reality is they ended up, you know, going on
to win a Super Bowl together. So I was just like, well,
I was a great story. I don't really know how
that plastic, but yeah, but I say, doesn't always work
out that. It was like, it was like, dude, that
I don't you're not my coach, and I don't think
(09:26):
you're gonna hang out on me, you know, you know,
I want to say it again. I'm just sort of
racking my brain for like GM history in Cleveland, and
and I just like I keep coming back to the
name Tom Heckert, Like for some reason, I keep coming
back to Tom name the Eagles before that. Maybe I mean, yeah,
because I know that he was sandwiched in between George
Cookeynes and then Michael Lombardi. I mean, this is a
(09:46):
off top of my head. I'm just sort of just
thinking going back in time, like thinking about the funny
thing was though I'm pretty sure Homegroun was over top
of him, and so he had whatever general manager power
he had, but it wasn't quite the same. And obviously,
like as a general manager, sometimes the head coaches more power,
Like clearly, you know, Eric Mangini fired George Cookena, who
was like his college best friend, after half the season,
(10:10):
and and you know he had more power than the
GM at that point. He trust me, what a good dude.
Trust me that that I gave you a window and
that thing was fron That's great, all right, So let
me ask you this, if you had It's just like
every time I hear you guys tell these stories about
how cutthroat the NFL is, I go, this is ridiculous.
(10:33):
I'd like you bringing Jonas Jonas is your general manager.
After your weeks You're like, hey, Jonas saying, gonna work, bro.
I love you man, You're fun like we had a
good time, like my guy. Yeah. I mean, you know
you still come to the game, but you can throw
the hooks up. You just can't be just a lot
(10:53):
of air. All right. So let me, guys ask you
as this, who needs this one more tonight? Indianapolis or
Denver based on the start of this question, because I
think it's Indianapolis, I do. I think it's Denver. Okay,
South stinks. I know. I believe the collective record of
every team in the NFC South is sub five if
(11:15):
you had them all up together, and that's the only
division like that I think in the C if I'm
not mistaken. Yeah, so they've got Houston is oh three
and one. Yeah, there's a couple of ties there. Yeah,
not a great division through and through. But I just
look at it and I go, is Jim Mursay really
gonna sit here and put up with this season after
(11:35):
what went down last year, his meetings he had with
the front office, his meetings he had with with Frank Reich.
They're going out and getting Matt Ryan blaming everything on
Carson Wentz. I just wonder if this thing continues to
go down the road that it's going where they don't
look good. Jonathan Taylor's banged up now he was supposed
to be your workhorse running back. It wouldn't surprise me
if Jim Mursy ended up doing something drastic in season
(11:58):
trying to save the year. And whether that means Frank
Reich is going to be the fall guy. I just
don't know that Jimmer Say is going to sit around
and wait until the end of the year after a
clown out when they when they gag away that game
in Jacksonville like they did last year. I don't think
he's gonna wait around that long. I think I think
Cats are gonna roll. You cannot get over the clown
out here. It's just it's funny. Listen, how are we
(12:18):
gonna make a statement as a bad football team? Dress
up as clowns? Wow? You showed them. You did it. Guys. Congratulations,
Grab a snorkel and go swim in the pool up
to up top at jack Stadium and have fun everybody.
So I just I look at it, I go I think,
I think this is bigger for Indianapolis because if it
(12:38):
plays out and they gets ugly, the conversation is going
to get louder and louder for changes there. And it
can't be the quarterback because you already made those changes
multiple times. But I don't know that they brought in
a quarterback that you could definitively say outside of Wentz,
I would say the win situation is peculiar. Again, I
(13:01):
think we know who Carson Wentz is now, yeah, I
mean one, uh, but but you bring in Ryan and
I don't I don't believe that you can say, all right, well,
we brought in Matt Ryan. So now we brought in
every really good quarterback that we could bring in, and
(13:21):
the open markets see if this will work. That's not
there's something more there than the quarterback. But you still
can say you haven't brought in you haven't had a
quarterback since Andrew Luck. You could really say that so
to me, and you had success. You saw success with
Philip Rivers. So what happened so dramatically and drastically from
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when Philip Rivers left into retirement to now, I don't know,
but I really think I'm with q Um that this
is a bigger game for for Denver. Like they can't
fall behind, they cannot fall behind, and and and with
what you have going on there, with the high, high
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profile offseason that they've had, UM they actually with a
win here, they don't put themselves out of the conversation
of are they are they turned in the corner yet?
Are they a good team yet? I don't think they do.
That would have win, But I think they put themselves
closer to the conversation of stabilizing UM as a team
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versus going the other way, And I think that that's
more difficult, that's a more difficult proposition. Even if the
Colts were to win tonight, Well, let me put it
this way. Um, given the fact that Denver just lost
to Las Vegas, Las Vegas is a one in three
football team. They win this week, Denver loses this week,
technically the records would be tied. But right now, early on,
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Las Vegas would have the head to head over them.
And and and you couldn't say that if you're Indianapolis
and Houston, because if Indianapolis loses, they would still be
tied with Houston. Yet you know that's assuming by the way,
Houston would win. And like the best case scenario is
like Indianapolis would be tied for last place and then
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they had to tie against you since I'm not even
sure how the tie breaker would work from there. But
there's still a game ahead. They're still sitting in third place.
Like I just and I don't know the Houston beats
jackson villeern I think a seven point underdogs something like that.
So I just think, even if you look at the
standings and how a winner loss would affect it. To
LaVar's point, Denver is the one that needs it more
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like they're the one that I think if you think
of the think of the perception, right now of Denver.
I mean right now, like the thing your hack it
has to hire Jerry Rossberg in season because so many
people were like just criticizing him for his bad you know,
clock management or overall game management, and so they make
that move. I mean, it really seems like there's a
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lot of people who have a microscope on him and
this team. And I don't I don't know that we're
talking that much about the Colts because we're what kind
of strucks us, you know, shrugs their shoulders and goes well,
I mean, they don't have their best player and Jonathan
Taylor he's out for tonight. I don't know that anyone
expects them really to go in and win, outside of
any the guys in that locker room. And I just,
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you know, I kind of look and think, like for
the perception if they lose and they're still they're one
in three and one football team, people kind of look
at the vision, go yeah, but it's THEFC South. You know,
they'll they'll they'll figure it out eventually. The devil loses, Like, man,
maybe this Nathaniel Hacket higher isn't working out. You know,
I'm a little bit offended here because you know, obviously
I have access to a lot of this information, and
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I've got like secret codes and things I can put
into get answers and their information immediately. And so like
you're just thrown out there, like, oh, well, I believe
the line for Houston and Jacksonville is at seven, Like
why don't you just ask? Man? Don't give me a
second area? Okay, Oh yeah, I just love how quick
his fingers work. Man, I'll tell you what you are
(16:50):
one keyboard warrior. Boy, I tell you Jacksonville mine of seven. Yet,
so I just wanted to confirm that for you there.
So I was able to I was able to look
that up pretty quickly. Here get it done for you again.
Pulling strings. That's what these fingers do. They pull strings
here on Fox Sports Radio, you know, kind of throught
some general petting advice for all these divisional matches we have.
Don't don't follow my lead. No, My My thought is
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so like, that's it's a seven point spread. You really
could go either way. They're uh sitting at seven because
there's a chance obviously that number you push. But my
advice is, like take the dogs. The dogs have been
have been obviously winning at a higher clip of the
bets this year against the spread, but not even that,
just in divisional games early in the season. You're still
trying to get a feel for, like how much parody
(17:34):
there is. So far, it seems like there's a lot
of parody amongst the league. Now, you know, I think
someone are arguing the other side might say, well, this
is where teams started to differentiate themselves, and look, maybe
you're right, but there's a couple out there, like Tampa's
at eight and a half point. Uh you know, I
think they're laying eight and a half our judge, Yeah,
it's nine and a half, Okay. I mean that's a
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big spread versus Atlanta, and I know, you know, Patterson
probably will be off for this one, but I mean
that's another one. You kind of go all right, like
we'll see how these how everything kind of scores up
with some of these divisional battles. But I'd be on
the side of the dogs with the bigger spreads. God,
I love sports betting. I imagine not betting on sports
what a loser like. I just imagine like going through
life going no, I don't want to bet on that game.
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That's not any fun. I don't want to gamble on sports,
get a grip a right, you are missing out. There's
a party going on and you're not invited. You're not
allowed behind the velvet ropes like we just broke down
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So I would love to see Roberto on a Big
Green Egg, LaVar I mean both you two man, the
way you got cook Come on, Berno, maybe a cook off?
Can we set that up. Let's do it. I mean,
you know it might take a little time. We can
we set this thing up. Let's set it up. Grande
verde wavill Yeah, Big Green Egg? How bad it Berno?
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Sandy seem to sound like Berto when you it rules off? Berto,
show us my last name is Knoxaz. What do you
try to say? I don't know. I'm talking about Berna.
Berta does it so much better than me? Come on,
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blame LaVar. He's got to point out these differences on
the air. I'm right there with him. Then we're gonna
blame it on LaVar. You can blame me too. It
sounds beautiful, and Roberto says it's say again Berto, Well,
al right, can we say it's slowly again? Berto? Well, okay, day, okay, okay,
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verde wave o grandote way exactly? You were like trying
not to say. I really don't know what he said.
How I said it was broken up because Big Green
Egg is Grande verde Wave. Okay, but what's right or wrong? No,
I'm saying there's Spanish and there's Jonash and mine is
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a little bit different, doesn't It doesn't operate on the
same I thought that was that is true that. Yeah,
that's also that. So yeah, there's anoxic in. There's another
another form of that. So listen, I'm trying here to
tell you thanks for those crappy doughnuts you brought in today.
I listen, I didn't buy them. Okay, they were left over.
I brought him in. And Berto's bitching over a free donut.
So exactly, he's bitching over a free donut because it's
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not it's on a maple bar. And okay, hold hold on.
If it's left over, been left over from yesterdays old. Yeah,
so what I want? They got sick for me in
those things. It's not my problem. I don't know what
to tell you. Yeah, listen, they were there, their donuts.
They look good. They seem like they're all right. They're
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not all dried out. What do you get those donuts from?
I'll tell you. We had a little gathering my mom's Thursday.
I don't want to tell you. Yeah, And wasn't that
two days ago? That was it was Tuesday? Tuesday, Thursday,
that two days ago. You have two days old donuts, people,
quite two days. I think it's about twenty hours. I
think they're about at about twenty hours how's that possible, Jonas,
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think about that Tuesday, you'd have to be at least
thirty six hours. Yeah, but it's still early on Thursday,
and cold don't at chops aren't open this early, and
I wasn't getting them that early. I was here. Okay,
but if you got them on Tuesday, they were made
Tuesday morning. Yeah, but they're not exactly twenty four hours,
so you round down on that and I would call
it a day. Yeah, your math does not make any sense.
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You think twenty four hours would be back to yesterday
Wednesday at this point? Why don't you not mock my
mathemastic back up another twenty hours? Like it might not
be forty eight, but it's definitely over. Yeah. Like I
brought him in in a coffin, all right, I'm just
looking out Express. I mean that you don't come in
the package like that. Yeah, they're not pand Express. It
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was to Go. I brought him into to Go box
and now Burtos mocking my doggie bag. I brought the
donuts in. Yeah, it was seriously, like, I think you
could put that in the least stomach and like it
would be fine. Like Lea's stomach is like the thing
they put potential bombs in that they blow up. Let
me tell you something leaves the DeLorean off back to
the future. You just throw garbage him and he runs
at a high level. He's fine that at least having
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a second to what I'm on's so excited about it.
Er two. Now, by the way, because because I because
I brought in the donuts, he refused to eat them.
You hit the button on yourself. Berno, it's racist. Yeah,
I don't get it. Yeah, because I brought the donuts in.
If Eddie Garcia brought him in, he'd be all over him.
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If they would have been from Randy's, that would have probably. Yeah, well,
I didn't have thirty dollars on me to go pay
Randy's donuts. Oh so now the truth is coming out. Yeah,
but listen, I didn't pay for these either. But I'm
telling you, if somebody offers you, is Randy's Donuts good?
I always drive by that place. Wayne's World. Yeah, they're
(24:36):
delay suck, but everything else they're kind of weird. They're
kind of the way they're shaped like, some of them
are shaped a little odd. But it's like a tourist attraction,
you know, you go there, and that's one by the
Burbank Careport good by Burbank care Yeah. Yeah, I've driven
by that one when I fly through l A X.
And I always want to stop and I'm like, they're
really that good. They just recommend don't don't hang the
(24:58):
wrong right or left there because we're telling truth here.
That's as bad as it gets. Do we lie it?
We lie in here there. There's no lies being told there.
(25:20):
That a little dicey, but you know, for maybe for
some of you guys, I'm fine, but for some of
you guys, maybe a little dicey. I'm good. But yeah,
so there it is. What do they call you down there?
Don't you have a nickname? Yeah? Oh yeah, the koc
King of Crenshaw. Yeah, that's just what it is. To
tell you, I don't. I don't pick these names. They're
(25:42):
just handed to me. Is the funny thing? Is that
drop you just plays up Bobo on that drop him?
Is that Bobo? Is that Bobo? Now? That's because that's
the first that I always used to question you and
that actual nickname. Yeah. Well, and then he found out
at a at a Martin Luther King Day parade, some
guy who went up to Bobo and said, hey, are
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you Bobo from the Jonas Knock Show? And I said
that gives me all the credit. Need who else listening
to that show in the middle of the night. But yeah,
King of Crenshaw, that's how it works, man, I don't
make I think that guy confirmed it. Yeah, you're the
King of Crea. Come on, you know el Ray right right,
Bertolray of Crnshaw. I've never heard that. I have never
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heard that. You never heard it once. I've been on Crenshaw.
Never never heard King of Crenshaw. You gotta go back then.
I'm telling you. People were talking about the topic of conversation. Well,
you're in the North Hills Hammer. How did I know
that you were the North Hills Hammer? And then you
didn't know I was the koc I don't know, I
don't know. Yeah, we're exactly on Crenshaw. Should I go
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to gather this information? Pick a spot, any spot, doesn't matter,
any spot whatever it looks like to be the most friendly,
that's right, not the most dicey or or well not
just see whatever. Wherever there's a and it looks like
there's a bunch of people who are having a good time. Yeah,
talking over some stuff. Yeah, that's all they do. I'm
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just talking, just trying to communicate, all right. It is
two pros and a cup of joe here on fs ARE.
By the way, you mentioned a story in the NFL.
When you hear from this person, I think you're gonna
be a big fan of what they had to say that.
I'll be coming up here. I want to make sure
we pay off the teas here is Brady taught me
years ago and radio. So we'll get to that top
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sports radio. Can we get can we just celebrate and
ball wash here a little bit on the air? Can
we get a round of applause? We have a live
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but they are here standing in unison to pay homage
to Brady Quinn who called a shot on some Wednesday
night college football. Last night. He had UCF minus two
(27:53):
and a half every forty one nineteen the final for
UCF A little Wednesday Night football from College Football Action.
Now that game was moved from what was it last week?
There was weather de lay or something or what was that?
What hurricane? Yeah, and so they moved this game. Get
a little Wednesday football. Now we normally get some action,
but that's not coming up for several weeks here. But
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let me look at you just dabbling telling everybody that's
the pick you want to make some money bet and
UCF that's the pick you make, I said late two
and a half, and I told him, you take out
LaVar's hammer and you hammer that thing. That's what I
was telling people. Now it's funny. I love football. I
love and like I love college football. I love like
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the intricacies of just even the mac for example, what
you brought up Like, I was having this conversation with
my buddy and that guy, you know, the meat Wagon
and he actually he went up and played Eastern Michigan
as a linebacker UM for for I think he was
there for a year. They end up transferring UM but
a coach tell him, this is one of the greatest
stories I've ever heard of. Player tell me a coach
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tell him he wanted to run down on kickoff like
he was on Black Tar Heroin. He's like, his coach,
I have no idea what that what that's like so
even he would last long there. But but we were
talking about the program restern Michigan because Curtis Straiton, who's
there now, he's done an unbelievable job. Like if you
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look over the last god like thirty years, I think
that the like the last time Eastern Michigan school like
that's had a winning season was like or something like that,
and he's had three within his tenure over the last
like six seven years, eight years whatever it's been, and
they've actually been like pretty consistently competitive. The reason why
I bring it up is because you've got all these
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other head coaching jobs that are open, and you know
that I don't know that enough schools look for a
guy who's like taking a program that was basically a
dumpster fire for forever and has been able to bring
it up to be competitive. They've been going to bowl games.
They haven't won those bowl games, but they've at least
been owing and and in a place that's been hard
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to win, and like he's actually found some success build
a foundation some of these like schools like Colorado or
Arizona State or not that Wisconsin is gonna go that direction.
I think that Jim Leoner will be the guy. But
there's there's a lot of good coaches out there that
I just they don't get the press, they don't get
the publicity. He's one that like, I'm like, man, he's
done a good job at Eastern Michigan. You know, I
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think like there's other places that should give that guy
a good hard look to see if you know, he
can't come in there and build up a program that's
got better resources to allow him to be better than
what they've been so far. By the way, he's had
three seven win seasons since he's been there, and that
was the first time they had a seven win season
since ninety nine. There you go so obvious, even worse
(30:43):
than that night nine. And by the way, if you
look at their entire I think the history of this
and looked this up with the Jonas, I think they
started football in seventy five and they've I think they've
had like seven winning seasons or eight winning seasons in
its school history. Hits out of half of them. Yeah,
that a lot um. But that's like the thing, though,
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is that you work all that time to find somebody
who can turn the program around. He gets you on
the doorstep of like, man, this is a respectable program
and then he's gonna get gobbled up by a bigger
school and he's gonna go And that stinks, I mean,
but but it's it's the reality of how things are
in business. Yeah, I mean, would you send you would
send a kid to the MAC, right, LaVar, if one
(31:25):
of your kids came, you said, I got an offer
to Eastern Michigan, you gotta take it right, you know,
it's crazy. My cousin from North Catholic and Pittsburgh UM
has received an offer I believe from eastern Eastern h
what is it a Eastern? Yeah? And baby, they got
the great turf there. That's kind of their thing. The Eagles. Yeah,
(31:47):
they when they come out in the field, they take
us sledgehammers to cinder boards. You can look this up.
It's a long process. Like you know, I remember the
days you used to run out through the smoke, or
you'd have the thing you'd run or that you break.
They're like, so it's probably about ten swings apiece for
each of the guys doing it. They eventually get through
(32:08):
the cinder blocks. Yeah, and I believe they play in UM.
Just off the top. Man, what's the name of that
Ryan Nierson Stadium, and I think it's like capacity a
little over thirty thousand. If I'm notus it is. I
think they've got a lot of it, kind of you know,
not roped off, but like bannered off. And then they
probably see it about ten to twenty the Eagles Eastern
Michigan shout out to all you Eastern Michigan lum and
(32:30):
uh and Brady's body who was told to go on
black Tar Heroin when he was on special Teams. Imagine
to say that to you? Is that hype you up?
Are you? Like? What the hell? If I'm being totally honest,
I don't even know what black tar heroine is. I
know what heroin is. I don't know what black Tar
heroin is. I think it's like even more crazy version.
(32:50):
I'm not sure, I Jonas, do we have any knowledge.
I don't know any black Tar heroine insiders? Anybody, Lee,
you have anybody in the black Tar heroine market you
can get on the phone, you would actually, Yeah, that's
that's a good point. That is a good point. You've
got anything on black Tar heroine? Uh, Eddie, let's go
(33:12):
live to our black Tar Heroin inside Eddie Garcia for
the latest. I believe Todd Marinovitch was very much into
the Yeah, fair enough. Well look, yeah, I mean I
don't know what the problem is, you know, It's just
I mean, we can drive on tar, but you can't inject.
(33:35):
It's the problem obviously, head up different substances. Yeah, yeah,
so so there it is. All right. It is Two
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Did he just say at the beginning of that, that's
the best fan base? Yes he did. How the hell
would he know? They've had what a hockey team and
then a football team for over the what past five
six years? Like you're just crowding them. The best fan base? Well,
I think he was talking about fans of the Blue
Man group. I think I don't know if he was
talking about the actual sports stands. I mean, I know
you're a bigger fan of thunder down on it. That
(36:33):
is true. They I've been known to I wear a
blindfold in there and you know, look around for stuff.
So I'm not even getting searching searching for some fruit. Hey,
is that a door knob? I don't know. I got
a band over here. Your thoughts on thunder from down Under?
I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't. But
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do you think this is like a little bit of
a conflict of in trist because he I don't think
he's kidding. I think he's absolutely he's gonna be the
real life Jackie Moon a team and actually play and
manage and everything like that. This is gonna be semi
pro Will Ferrell come into life. This amazing, Although I
will say this because I think it was. Will Gnarowski
(37:19):
sent a tweet last night that they they're waiting for
the new TV deals to come through and see where
they're at before they welcome in a couple of new
teams in Seattle's one team that's being looked at, as
well as Las Vegas. If he if Lebron wanted to
guarantee he was going to play with his son, just
go own the team and that way you call him
the shots, it would make some sense. He's gonna have
(37:41):
the capital to do it or at least the ability
to get capital partners. I would think that given his
clean history, I mean, there's nothing really to hide. Um,
I mean, it makes a lot of sense. It makes
a lot of sense, you know. I know he'll have
competition obviously, Yeah, but I think you'd be a good
ambassador to do it. I just I always challenge the
(38:01):
fact that he's already annoyting a fan base that's had
two professional sports teams now I think within the past
six years as the best sports fans, Like, how do
you even know they like basketball? You guys are a businessman,
would you not if you had an opportunity to get
involved with owning a professional team, wouldn't you jump at it?
As a majority owner? Yeah, As a minority owner, not
(38:24):
as much because you don't have as much control, So
you're kind of putting that money into a team. And
there's things called tag along drag along rights where you
don't have any say. The majority owner is going to
be the one that ultimately dictates how any funds are distributed,
if there are any, or when they sell or what happens.
There's there's a lot that goes into it, so you've
(38:44):
gotta gotta be the guy in control by a team,
and like, you know, I don't have by a team
money duck. I wish I did, but I don't. But
I'm an honest man. What kind of but you had
a he had a Koi pond in a house. Yeah,
that's a different point. That's a different Koi pond. Okay, Yeah,
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