October 25, 2022 • 37 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar take a look at some of the biggest spreads in week 8. They wonder who the QB for the Patriots will be moving forward. The Big Ten will wait to reconfigure until USC and UCLA enter in 2024. Also an update on Chargers injuries and a recap of the Prop Bet Monster.
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bit of a heist in the NFL last night. How
about those Chicago Bears getting nine points in some places
before kickoff, getting nine points and then going out there
and taking a battle axe to the Patriots in Foxboro
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in prime time? How bad it getting paid, getting paid,
just handing out cash for those Chicago Bears. How do
you know to do that? What do you mean, Well,
that's the thing is, you know, I'm sure there's some
sharp money on that on the Bears, just because the
number was was big. You know NFL standards and eight
a half nine points spreads big. But logic and reason
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would have told you not to take the Chicago Bears
based on how they've looked this year. So if you
did take the Bears, you're probably either a fan or
you were just hoping that, Hey, it's the NFL, there's
a lot of parody. The Patriots probably won't be able
to beat him by that sizeable of a margin. And
then if you put the money line, you're just a
degenerate at that point. And you thought you thought the Bears.
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We're gonna blow out the Patriots in Foxboro with a
quarterback who's I don't know how old Justin Fields is,
but Belichick has an incredible record verse quarterbacks like twenty
five and under. And uh that, ladies and gentlemen, was
a whooping like that. That's what that was last night.
I mean, Justin Fields was pretty good man. He had
the interception. But as far as just and we talked
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a little bit about the mac Jones Bailey's appy situation
and what the hell they're going to do. They're moving forward.
But if you come away from that game on the
bare side of it, you have to be feeling a
little bit more optimistic, a little bit more positive considering
the fact he doesn't have a whole hell of a
lot around him. They've got injuries on the offensive line,
they're shuffling that group around. He come away from that
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game going all right, So maybe there's a little something
there with Justin Fields. No running yours. He was getting
done on the ground to good athletes. Somebody I got
a text yesterday for They were like, man, T J.
Plex could come out of retirement and be it could
be better options for for the kid right now for
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Chicago like he does. Justin Fields does not have any
type of game changing playmaker type. Dutes seemingly on on
the roster right now. Darnell Mooney's his his number one
wide receiver and h he's a good player. But yeah,
they they've they've you know, gutted that roster like this
is also they could have a bunch of salary cap
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space for next year. Um. Roquan Smith didn't get a
deal done, by the way, I did find it funny
after he got his interception that he made sure to
what's it was making it rain? Is that what he
was doing with the with the cash. Do you think
he was pointing out that he needs a new deal?
Is that sort of what he was getting at the Smith?
I mean, if they're not gonna pay him, someone's gonna pam. Um.
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So now the Bears find themselves according to Draft Rings
again nine point underdogs at the Dallas Cowboys this upcoming week.
What do you think about that, juicy? If you want
to feast on it, I think you should take it.
I think you should take it on us. Okay, well
I don't know that I want to take it, all right.
I'm trying to be talked into it. So, so tell
me all the reasons why to take it and why
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not to take it? All right, Well, why you wouldn't
is back to back weeks on the road. That's never easy. Um,
Dallas Cowboys are are one of the better defense. I
would say Dallas is a better defense than the Patriots. Um.
And I do think at some point you're gonna see
the the Dallas offense kind of break out with Dak.
You know, we haven't seen that yet. Maybe this is
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that opportunity to do it. So so, so there's that.
That is the Did I not give a reason that
bet Chicago that one? Yeah? I mean listen, I mean
if you could try and be a little bit positive,
I think there's no reason in this situation. Just nine
points a lot? Yeah, but that's not a lot with
the Bears, Okay, I mean the Green Bay Packers are
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ten and a half point underdogs against the Bills. Do
you feel more confident about the Bears plus nine or
the Packers plus ten and a half? Packers and a half?
I agree? What about the Steelers plus ten and a
half at Philadelphia? Nah, I think that's a bad bet.
You gotta well, you gotta take into consideration. While while
Philly is a much better team than Pittsburgh, it's still
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a state rivalry. That's gonna be a hard fight game.
They're not gonna blow them out, and still nobody's gonna
blow anybody out in that game. Yeah, they're gonna they're
gonna fight because there's you know, we think we're better
than the Eastern Side. The Eastern Side thinks they're better
than us. We we have very very we are worlds apart,
and how we handle things like Philadelphia is almost like
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and in some ways they they it's I ain't gonna
do it because I represent Pa. But I'll just say this, Pittsburgh,
we're our own debt. You know, Philly, I think it's
like it's like they're like little brother too to New York.
Is what I'll say. We don't we don't. We don't
ride off. We don't ride off Ohio's coattails or anybody else.
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Pittsburgh's just Pittsburgh. You know. That's you know, Philly is different.
They're unique in their own way, and they got a
lot of different traditions and cultures. But we think we're better.
You know, we're winners. We have more Super Bowls. I
believe we have more Stanley Cups. Um, maybe not, we're
World Series, but we still think we're better. You know,
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that's just kind of They have basketball. That's really all
they have over us. You know, they have the Sixers.
We we don't. We feel like the sports teams we
have are good enough. We don't need a basketball team?
Is it like that with Cleveland and Cincinnati in Ohio's
does does Cleveland look down in Cincinnati or vice versa?
How does that work? I don't know. I mean it's
they're kind of different in the sense and outside of
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football and baseball, you don't have you know, there's no
basketball teams. SIN see a little different in that respect,
but they definitely you definitely pick your side. You for
are either, Hey, I'm either a Cleveland fan or a
SINC fan. Maybe last year was an exception. You've had
a guy like Joe Burrow who is kind of a
galvanizing guy, right Like he played at Ohio State that
went to l s U. But now with the Bengals,
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I'm sure there was some Maybe I'm wrong in assuming this,
but I'm sure there's some Browns fans who root for
Ohio State that want to see Joe Burrow win a
Super Bowl. So maybe look at it this way. Q
is Ohio in a way like are they separated in
a way where the certain like if it's eastern or
western or southern part of north and south? Okay, so
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north and South do you guys have do you guys
meet at the state championship and stuff like that, like
like that is that's north or north Ohio? There's Ohio
North South? Yeah, yeah, I played. What I'm saying is
like in terms of your school is on the north side,
somebody else that's like a good quarterback is on the
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south side. You guys meet in the state championship. Like
that's the equipal in a p A like p I
A scholastic sports. It's like we're we western side of
the state will end up playing the eastern side of
the state for the state championship. You know, well you've
you've got you've got four regions, so all those four
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regions all funnel into the final four and it and
it just depends on how who ends up running the regions.
So yeah, I mean, technically there's the possibility of the
North South facing you know, or a North team face
and the Southern team. Um, like the year we played
in it, I'm trying to think we played we were
considered a Northern team. We're a northern suburb of Columbus,
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but we were playing a Cincinnati team who went on
to end up losing to a Northern team after they
beat us. I think they lost to Warren Harding. So
it's like, right, so like you think your region is,
but like it's the rivalry of what you think your
region is. So our rivalry is we think we're better,
we're better football players than than the Eastern side. But
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there's some really really rate football on the eastern side
of the state, like with like Bethalom Catholic, And I
don't want to go into like all the details, but
but the idea of it is is that it's still
the Eastern side. So we meet up and become teammates
at Penn State. That's why Penn State is interesting because
it represents the whole entire state, you know what I mean.
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So you're when when local recruits, like when top recruits
come in, you know, you're there's always the rivalry of
oh you're from Philly, Okay, you know what? Up? You
know what what up? You know, like they're they're different
slaying terms that you know, we we have our deal
and like we we say kuzo or whatever it may be.
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So everybody has their different different things. But the bottom
line is back to the original point. I do not
think Philadelphia is going to to slaughter Pittsburgh. They'll probably win,
but I think it would be tighter than that would
be less than that point. I know in in Dublin, Ohio,
where I'm familiar with, though, we say what's up, slappy,
I know that's what we say. But again, like you
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could travel across the way and go to Westerville. You
could go up to Delaware or even Marysville if you
wanted to. But again, I'm just you know, I'm just
talking Dublin, you know stuff like people people in Detroit
think they created what though, But you know, Pittsburgh people,
we were what up people too, So I don't know,
you know, yeah, you a little that, yeah, but just
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I'm not I don't know what you're talking about. That
is not the case at all, that I don't. I
don't know what you're getting at. Here a gross city,
I there is a there is a Grove City College. Um,
I believe it's actually a Juco. But there's also a
Grove City in Ohio. For whatever reason, you st always
schedule us for their homecoming. So that's that's why we've
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been ruining homecoming there one. It's really disrespectful. Um all right,
So if you guys had to guess who's the starting
quarterback for the New England Patriots moving forward based on
what we saw last night, they're getting zapped? Are are
they getting zapped? You think it's gonna be mac Jones?
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All right, I'm going I'm going zapped. I think they're
getting zapped. I think that's where we're headed here. This
is uh, it doesn't matter if they both play, I
mean serious questions. So they're gonna go platoon. I'd be
into that. Let's go platoon. Let's let's do what they're
the same guy either head shot. They look like they
could be twins. I know they should still sets the
exact same. They should switch jerseys and you see, if
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anybody notices, why not just send him out there? At
this point, the Patriots aren't a good football team, so
why not just send him out there and see what
you got? I mean, Belichick, he's not retiring after this year,
he's got he's got more wiggle room there. What if
what if the New England Patriots finished lower than Jets.
I mean, it's definitely possible right now based on the record.
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By the way, that would be one of the biggest
accomplishments for the Jets organization in the last fifteen to
twenty years, is the fact that they finished ahead of
the New England Patriots, who right now are the format
of the a f C East. That might be the
nail in the coffin for the Belichick Brady debate, even
regardss of how the Bucks look, because the Bucks a
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three and four but still a top of the NFC South. Yeah,
the regarless with the Bucks do this year, that might
be the nail in the coffin for Bill Belichick and
that debate. I it's just it's so it's kind of
disrespectful though to the success that Belichick has had, isn't it.
I Mean, like everyone wants to do the comp game
and say, well, what did Brady do after he went
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to Tampa Bay and all that? Yeah, I don't. I
don't think. I don't think Tom Brady has the six
super Yeah. No, And I don't think Tom Brady has
the six Super Bowls about Belichick and vice versa. The
fact that three or four and a half actual Brady
was a fine quarterback in college. But Tom Brady was
not what he was in the league. I'll tell you
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that that the different dude in the lead I played
against both. He was not the same dude in the
league that he was in college. And listen, I don't
know if you attribute that to Bill Belichick. I don't
know if it's someone else that came into Tom Brady's life.
Somebody meant toward him, somebody showed him how to study
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film differently, see something whatever. I have no idea who
the credit goes to in terms of why he turned
into that player in the league. But he was not
that player in college. He was, he was a fine
football player, but not I don't even know that he was.
Was he No, I don't even know if he was
an All American in college, because Drew Henson was. I
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mean that was he was split in time. They were
splitting time. Um. The adjusted win total for the New
England Patriots is seven and a half. They're sitting at
three wins right now. They're at the Jets coming up
this weekend. They've got the Colts and then the Jets again. Uh,
and then they're at Minnesota, the Bills at the Cardinals.
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There's a chance to Jets can see both quarterbacks and
it's like it's like a three game series in baseball.
You get a different starter each time you see them.
So yeah, there's so yeah, that's what we're looking at. God,
they may not. They may not finish with more than
seven wins. If you just look at the remainder of
their schedule Vikings, Bills at the Cardinals at the Raiders, Bengals,
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Dolphins at the Bills. Cheese, man, this could be a
six win football team when it's all said and done.
So we could be looking at a six and eleven
Patriots team moves in the playoffs last year. Yikes. So
that's a problem. But I'm sure they'll have fun with
that locally there in Boston. They'll be nice to them
with all that going on. It is two pros and
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trains can't, so you know, how the USC Trojans and
the u c l A Bruins number ten and twelve
in the country, number one in your hearts especial ship,
you're listening right now on the blowtorch a M five
seventy l A Sports. So they're headed to the Big Ten,
and uh, apparently the Big Ten is going to stick
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with the same divisional format the East West divisions for
another season before U c l A and USC decided
to head on over in four. So for those of
you that were wondering, man, are we still going to
have to sit and watch the Big Ten be split
up into two divisions for another year as we get
Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State and sort of
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the juggernauts in that conference on one side, and then
your produce and your Northwesterns and your Iowa Hawkeyes. By
the way, Iowa has still not scored a hundred points
on the season in total, so that is a just
a well run offense through and through. But as it
stands right now, we are going to get the same
divisional format there, Brady Quinn, East and West and the
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Big Ten for another go at it. The interesting thing
about that is at least if you look at how
this year is setting up, and Lavarn, it's not that
I don't want to fact in Penn State they are
a double digit underdog this week at home. Um, there's
no doubt the factor's good. They are really good. The
scheduling part that becomes really interesting once the Big Ten
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moves to a top two team format is if you
look at how things are setting up this year, you'd
essentially have a High State Michigan and back to back weeks.
So it becomes really interesting to me, like the importance
in the magnitude of that game, it kind of goes
away a bit because the loser would still end up
playing again if those were the top two teams, since
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they play at the end of the season of the
regular season, they just played each other again the following
a week in Indianapolis. So kind of an interesting thought
to just how that impacts what has been the greatest
rivalry in college football, at least in my opinion, And
and looking moving forward, the fact that the Big Ten
wants to do this full well, admitting that it might
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end up I don't know. I'm not sure if it's
a good thing for the Big Ten. You know, usually
they have a really strong team out of the East,
whether it's Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, whoever. That's gonna
be playing a lesser team from the Big Ten West,
but it's probably ranked and you so you still get
that win that launches you into the College Football Playoff.
If there's expansion, probably doesn't matter as much. But if
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it stays at four teams, depending on how long that's
going to be, you could end up eliminating one of
your teams out of it. Or if you had a
scenario where one team beats one the one week, the
next week, the other team beats you know that team,
and all of a sudden, you don't get any teams
in the playoff. It's just kind of interesting thing that
obviously isn't gonna playoff for a couple of years now,
but something that I wonder if the Big Ten has
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discussed and contemplated and there's no way they're moving that
game Thanksgiving weekend towards any other point in the season. Correct,
this isn't one of these, you know, just to avoid that. Man,
You've got people who are probably out there smoking weed
on the Santa Monica peer who were thinking this is
Big Ten country, Like, what the hell I mean? But
that's that's out there ripping waves of Big ten country.
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Bro see, But that's tradition. Man. We need the game,
the game Thanksgiving weekend. That's got to happen. You can't
move that. And I know it's gonna be a little
awkward to see these two teams play again the following week.
But I just I never complain, Like when people were
complaining about Clemson and Alabama meeting in the National Title
Game every year, Like, those are the two best teams
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in the country. If you can tell me we're gonna
get the two best teams in the country in the
National Championship Game every year, I'm in, like that's yeah,
Like I I so, I'm not. I'm not that opposed
to these two teams having to see each other. Think
about Georgia. You think about Georgia and Alabama. I mean,
I thought, I think it's pretty cool if you see
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one team wins the SEC, you meet them and they
don't necessarily win the National Championship. Yeah, I think that's
pretty interesting. You know. So if you're getting the two
best teams and they're from the A Conference, so be it.
You know, So we better not saying that. I'm saying
the issue is you might not get either team because
this format. No, I'm not debating you're you're I'm not
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debating what the point you made. I'm just saying in general,
for me, I would love to see the two best teams,
whether they're from the same conference or not. I don't care.
Can I say something that's gonna piss off probably a
lot of people by default? The Big Ten champion should
be an automatic bid into the College Football Playoff. I'm sorry, Like,
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at what point do we start with that it's either
the best or second best conference in the country, the
SEC champ in the Big Ten champs should have two
spots automatically in the College I would disagree with that
at all. Jonas, I just I don't disagree with that.
I think based on how expansion looks like it's going
to go, both the SEC, Big Ten and as well
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as the other power of fives will almost assuredly get
their conference champions in. It just comes down to how
many other teams When you start to actor in the
language that includes at large bids, well, that's a group
of five teams, an independent, et cetera. However you view
that that's that's gonna be an interesting spot. But we're
not there yet. You know, we can't figure out a
way of agreeing on how we want to go about
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defining how many teams playoff for a national championship. But
I will say this, I mean I feel like that
hopefully that day is rapidly approaching because I think if
you're a U c, l A and USC fan you're
frustrated with them joining the Big Ten, you know, some
of that slows down. I think at least if you know,
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you're a conference like the Pact twelve or Big twelve
and you have a conference champion that gets automatic bid,
you know, outside of the money that's tied to some
of the TV rights, you know, you're still able to
generate you know, power in recruiting, power and being able
to say, hey, we were part of the College fall playoff.
It's an easier path to get there, and so that
at least helps to a degree. Um but ultimately, again,
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you're still gonna be behind the April if you can't
generate enough ray things as one of those college football
brands to compete with what the Big Ten and the
SEC are pushing out. Oregon hasn't because it's there's so many,
so much movement, it's already keep track of. Oregon hasn't
made a decision on if they're leaving the Pack twelve yet,
have they? I know there have been rumblings about them
potentially leaving, But again my intuition is this, most like
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Kevin Warrant, for example, the Big Ten might say, hey,
we'd love an even number, and we'd love to add
on an Oregon, Washington, two bigger markets on the West coast,
um you know, high academic standard, Stanford cal We'd love
to add those programs to our conference. But you might
have a TV network that pushes back and go, well,
we can bid on those rights through the Pack twelve,
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which is a lot cheaper. So what we don't want
you to have them join their conference. And obviously, you know,
behind the scenes, we're the ones who are ultimately paying
for the rights to showcase these college programs. So it
might be something that you see conference commissioners talk about.
I don't know that it makes as much business sense,
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especially as some of these different conferences negotiate their TV
rights deals. Whether that's the Big twelve, it sounds like
that's gonna be up next eventually the Pack twelve or
redo theirs as well. But the truth of the matter is,
you know, adding more teams doesn't necessarily bring more value
to your conference. It only dilutes what's currently there. You
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So basically, anybody in the PAC twelve offices is just
rooting for Oregon to win the conference this year. Just
send U c L A and USC packing in a
couple of years, but just to roll with the Oregon
that's gonna stick around. It was a bad look a
couple of weeks ago when you had the top two
teams as far as rankings, go over USC in U
c L A and they're gone going on another confidence Reynolds,
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I'll put it this way. There's a realistic scenario though,
where think about that. If U see and U c
l already leaving, you have four other teams in Oregon, Washington,
and Stanford, Cal. I mean, you're not going to have
a Pack twelve because then if you're Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado,
they're all going to turn to the Big twelve and go, Hi,
how are you doing? Can we can we join? I mean,
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there's a realistic scenario where the Patch twelve is the
Power five conference that may not exist in regards at
least of football. Yeah, that's uh well, it's too bad. Well,
I mean, look, blame yourselves. By the way, I was
trying to find a few weeks ago the Oregon State
USC game, trying to find it on the Pack twelve
network somewhere. What a disaster like it's still to this day,
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all these years later, it is a disaster to find
anywhere you can stream it unless you have a certain account.
You know, you get like five minutes of a free
preview and then it closes back down. So they can
blame themselves for it all they want. That's their problem.
It is too pros and a cup of joe here
on fs are. We are going to get to our
results from the prop at Monster on Monday Night football
from last night. That'll be coming up here in about
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twelve minutes from now. So we did get the confirmation.
The news not good in uh l A for the
Chargers almost just said San Diego, sorry about that. Still
working on that. Uh the l A Chargers J. C.
Jackson ruptured patella. There was reports it was a dislocated kneecap.
That is not the case. It's even more severe. He's
done for the year. Mike Williams got a high ankle sprain.
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He's done for several weeks. Uh, it's heading south in
a hurry for the l A Chargers. Not not great
as they continue to deal with injuries. Another year and
the injury bug bites them in the ass. So there's
that for the l A Chargers. Uh. Not not not
ideal for anybody involved. So both l A teams look
like they're struggling a little bit here. So we knew
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the injuries were there waiting for confirmation, and we got
it yesterday on both those guys. What the f man,
What that's a fortunate I mean, obviously he signed a
big money deal. Um hadn't played that great though before
the injury this season, you know. And that's the tough
part is I think they're hoping for more out of
At one point he got benched this season. So tough
loss there. Mike Williams is a tough loss for and
two is the living receiver right now. But they've been
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kind of digging at dunk more. I think that's a
byproduct of their offensive line. Not you know, let's protect
Herbert quite as much. But you know it's has got
fifty three catches on the season. Next close is Williams
at thirty seven. So yeah, they've been they've been using it.
Did get Keenan Allen back, though, I mean he'll he'll
be able to replace that, you know, void to a degree.
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So um, he's some time. And then what do you
make of a P. J. Walker? He's going to be
the starter moving forward, or at least that. Steve Wilkes says,
I don't see why not why he wouldn't remain the
starter there in Carolina. That's am I crazy. That's the
best quarterback performance that I can recall Caroline has gotten
in at least a couple of years. What we saw Sunday, Well,
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what's interesting about that? I think one of you guys
pointed it out, maybe it was you Que that this
was Matt Rule's guy, like he brought he brought the
kid in and who knows who you know, Baker Mayfield's
guy or Sam Arnold's guy. Who knows who brought those
guys in? Right? That might have been ownership. Then now
(27:02):
that rule isn't there. You put in the guy he
brings in and they get a good quarterback play and
they win the game, a big game, right, So, I
don't know. Sometimes sometimes success is right there, you're right
there at it. Sometimes you know the right decision is
right there and you see it staring you in the face.
It's just a matter of sometimes who makes the decision,
(27:25):
you know, who does it or if it does work
out when you know, if ever that decision is made,
you know. And so I don't know. Maybe maybe that's
under the surface of what was going on there. There's
a pretty good team in Carolina. I think we'll find out.
I mean, there was the question will this be a
good team? Um? Will will they rally or will they
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lay down? You know, teams usually either rally around one
another when when the coaches let go during the season
or they just you know, don't have the effort or
whatever one reason or another, they just don't play well
and they continue to play worse. So this team, this
team rallied. It'll be interesting to see with PJ and
(28:08):
with the you know, the circumstances they have right now
in Carolina, can they continue to win? If they turn
this thing around, then where do you get the credit to?
You know? And I think that that's always an interesting
discussion to have. Yeah, look at me, I'm not gonna
say it's the best performance that the Panthers have had
in a couple of years. I thought p J. Walker
did well, you know, obviously couldn't have to get him
(28:29):
to win. I thought the defense played outstanding. That was
more of the biggest takeaway. I just I wonder if
at some point, if you're David Tepper as the owner,
you're paying Sam Donald once he's healthy, if you're not
saying I'm paying the guy, might as well come in
and play and and and Sam Donald did. He'd have
a few big performances early on last season before things
started to fall apart. I mean, look at the beginning
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of the season. They started off with three and oh
last year mistaken, Yes, they I mean they got off
to a hot start. He was playing well, and then
everything started to fall at Kaffrey. McCaffrey got hurt, and
then everything well again, Well McCaffrey had to stay at home. Yeah,
nurses was kind. I'm glad that's correct. Glad you brought
let me go freaking on that. And to see how
how that rehab is gone for Christian. Do you think
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there'll be a injury prone in San Francisco. H McCAT, mom,
I don't know. I mean a good question. There's there's
just a lot of things that get in the way.
Did she go to San Francisco? Yeah, she's probably been
begging for a bigger city closer to NAPA, all sorts
of great, Well, she's more if she's in wine country
and she's you know, handling that, maybe Christian has more
(29:37):
downtime to play football, you know. Yeah, I mean that's possible. Yeah,
that's that is possible. Yeah, I'm just I didn't catch
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do we stand on the season? Um? Because I think
basically everything before this week was all priests easing correct
and now this is the real stuff starting ac according
to some If that were the case, then Brady's had
a great preseason. Brady Brady has been U dominant so far.
Yeah how many? How many game lead does he have
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over everybody else? At least a full week on LaVar
and at least he's let's just say he's double g
Jones If I've been laughed, good god? All right, So
what about what happened last night? Well, last night, unfortunately
I didn't I did not catch any highlights from Super
Bowl twenty. Yeah they didn't, Yeah they did. Surprise there Yeah,
(33:36):
so throw that one out. Yeah, we did go to
most rushing yards in the game. Um, we had David
Montgomery on there, we had Romandre Stevenson, we had Damian Harris,
but it was actually Justin Fields who led the field.
Throw that one out. How did Romandre Stevenson not have
a better night? The rush defense has been a problem
all year. It's been bad and and well that's that's
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the thing though, is we really wanted to showcase the
quarterback controversies, so Matt Patricia wanted to air it out
with mac Jones and Bailey's appy out that one we
want to get zapped? So happened? All right here we
now we started getting into it who finished the game
at quarterback for the Patriots obviously between mac Jones and
Bailey's appy. Well, LaVar and Brady, you guys took mac
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Jones jonas you did, in fact correctly predict Bailey's as
ai because we both said mac Jones, draw him up,
got zapped. Good for you if that's your way of
getting your us. Good for you. That might be the
only one he got. What was the others we had?
What would the Bears have more of touchdowns, field goals?
Or turnovers. LaVar, you had turnovers that was one. Jonas,
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you had touchdowns that was three. Brady you had field
goals that was four. Brady took one. I don't know
about that. Ye Are we sure about that? We're sure
about the number of field goals there? We totally positive.
I mean, I mean I think I should go back. Yeah,
I think we should go back. Maybe you look at it.
Are you saying Cairo Santos is four for four from
field goals? Will that be twelve points? They finished with thirty?
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What three? Okay, so twelve plus twenty one, which is
three touched out, would be thirty three. Interesting, Well, they
should have had another touchdown. I think it was that
another one where you just didn't do the math the
what happened? Now? I did? I did the math. I
was trying to find a way out of it. Okay, listen,
I'm familiar with what the differences between four and three. Okay,
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I did survive that class as. Lastly, we h we
tried to predict the color of Bill Belichick's hoodie between blue, red, gray,
or no hoodie at all. Jonas, you picked no hoodie.
Bad choice by you. Brady you took blue and LaVar,
you correctly predicted gray. By the way, why would Belichick
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go with gray and those sort of conditions? All right,
when you want a dark color generally where well, I
don't want to say that I'm from my recollection. He
wears gray away they're at home, LaVar, what do you wear? Yeah,
well then I don't know whatever I mean. My guest
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would be he wants to stand out because they were
blue for the uniforms at home. So you want people
to see you, you wear blue, you might blend in
with everyone. So a real showman that Belan ship. I
thought he thought he was just gonna be one of
the guys in the team, you know, so I thought
he were blue as well. I thought he wears blue
at home. But okay, by the way, do you think
the challenge flag in the sock is a weird thing
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to do? Like? No, I like that. Yeah, it's a
little weird. It's kind of like the people who care
like a pistol in their sock, you know. Yeah, it's
like his challengers mini pistol in your sockse miniature ones.
It's like Michael Douglas pistis camera breathe out of his ears,
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Michael Douglas looks for pistols. He does snorkels too, so LaVar.
What do you wear when you coach? Do you go
hoodie like with cutt off sleeves or what are you
going with? Who are you coaching? I wear a zipp up,
a zippap hoody? Yeah? Where is Rady? What would you
wear if you coached? I could see you going whatever
the team gets me? You know the team issue. No,
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gives you, you know, the team, one of the guys.
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bit of a heist in the NFL last night. How
about those Chicago Bears getting nine points in some places
before kickoff, getting nine points and then going out there
and taking a battle axe to the Patriots in Foxboro
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in prime time? How bad it getting paid, getting paid,
just handing out cash for those Chicago Bears. How do
you know to do that? What do you mean, Well,
that's the thing is, you know, I'm sure there's some
sharp money on that on the Bears, just because the
number was was big. You know NFL standards and eight
a half nine points spreads big. But logic and reason
(01:50):
would have told you not to take the Chicago Bears
based on how they've looked this year. So if you
did take the Bears, you're probably either a fan or
you were just hoping that, Hey, it's the NFL, there's
a lot of parody. The Patriots probably won't be able
to beat him by that sizeable of a margin. And
then if you put the money line, you're just a
degenerate at that point. And you thought you thought the Bears.
(02:12):
We're gonna blow out the Patriots in Foxboro with a
quarterback who's I don't know how old Justin Fields is,
but Belichick has an incredible record verse quarterbacks like twenty
five and under. And uh that, ladies and gentlemen, was
a whooping like that. That's what that was last night.
I mean, Justin Fields was pretty good man. He had
the interception. But as far as just and we talked
(02:34):
a little bit about the mac Jones Bailey's appy situation
and what the hell they're going to do. They're moving forward.
But if you come away from that game on the
bare side of it, you have to be feeling a
little bit more optimistic, a little bit more positive considering
the fact he doesn't have a whole hell of a
lot around him. They've got injuries on the offensive line,
they're shuffling that group around. He come away from that
(02:54):
game going all right, So maybe there's a little something
there with Justin Fields. No running yours. He was getting
done on the ground to good athletes. Somebody I got
a text yesterday for They were like, man, T J.
Plex could come out of retirement and be it could
be better options for for the kid right now for
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Chicago like he does. Justin Fields does not have any
type of game changing playmaker type. Dutes seemingly on on
the roster right now. Darnell Mooney's his his number one
wide receiver and h he's a good player. But yeah,
they they've they've you know, gutted that roster like this
is also they could have a bunch of salary cap
(03:36):
space for next year. Um. Roquan Smith didn't get a
deal done, by the way, I did find it funny
after he got his interception that he made sure to
what's it was making it rain? Is that what he
was doing with the with the cash. Do you think
he was pointing out that he needs a new deal?
Is that sort of what he was getting at the Smith?
I mean, if they're not gonna pay him, someone's gonna pam. Um.
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So now the Bears find themselves according to Draft Rings
again nine point underdogs at the Dallas Cowboys this upcoming week.
What do you think about that, juicy? If you want
to feast on it, I think you should take it.
I think you should take it on us. Okay, well
I don't know that I want to take it, all right.
I'm trying to be talked into it. So, so tell
me all the reasons why to take it and why
(04:18):
not to take it? All right, Well, why you wouldn't
is back to back weeks on the road. That's never easy. Um,
Dallas Cowboys are are one of the better defense. I
would say Dallas is a better defense than the Patriots. Um.
And I do think at some point you're gonna see
the the Dallas offense kind of break out with Dak.
You know, we haven't seen that yet. Maybe this is
(04:38):
that opportunity to do it. So so, so there's that.
That is the Did I not give a reason that
bet Chicago that one? Yeah? I mean listen, I mean
if you could try and be a little bit positive,
I think there's no reason in this situation. Just nine
points a lot? Yeah, but that's not a lot with
the Bears, Okay, I mean the Green Bay Packers are
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ten and a half point underdogs against the Bills. Do
you feel more confident about the Bears plus nine or
the Packers plus ten and a half? Packers and a half?
I agree? What about the Steelers plus ten and a
half at Philadelphia? Nah, I think that's a bad bet.
You gotta well, you gotta take into consideration. While while
Philly is a much better team than Pittsburgh, it's still
(05:24):
a state rivalry. That's gonna be a hard fight game.
They're not gonna blow them out, and still nobody's gonna
blow anybody out in that game. Yeah, they're gonna they're
gonna fight because there's you know, we think we're better
than the Eastern Side. The Eastern Side thinks they're better
than us. We we have very very we are worlds apart,
and how we handle things like Philadelphia is almost like
(05:47):
and in some ways they they it's I ain't gonna
do it because I represent Pa. But I'll just say this, Pittsburgh,
we're our own debt. You know, Philly, I think it's
like it's like they're like little brother too to New York.
Is what I'll say. We don't we don't. We don't
ride off. We don't ride off Ohio's coattails or anybody else.
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Pittsburgh's just Pittsburgh. You know. That's you know, Philly is different.
They're unique in their own way, and they got a
lot of different traditions and cultures. But we think we're better.
You know, we're winners. We have more Super Bowls. I
believe we have more Stanley Cups. Um, maybe not, we're
World Series, but we still think we're better. You know,
(06:31):
that's just kind of They have basketball. That's really all
they have over us. You know, they have the Sixers.
We we don't. We feel like the sports teams we
have are good enough. We don't need a basketball team?
Is it like that with Cleveland and Cincinnati in Ohio's
does does Cleveland look down in Cincinnati or vice versa?
How does that work? I don't know. I mean it's
they're kind of different in the sense and outside of
(06:52):
football and baseball, you don't have you know, there's no
basketball teams. SIN see a little different in that respect,
but they definitely you definitely pick your side. You for
are either, Hey, I'm either a Cleveland fan or a
SINC fan. Maybe last year was an exception. You've had
a guy like Joe Burrow who is kind of a
galvanizing guy, right Like he played at Ohio State that
went to l s U. But now with the Bengals,
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I'm sure there was some Maybe I'm wrong in assuming this,
but I'm sure there's some Browns fans who root for
Ohio State that want to see Joe Burrow win a
Super Bowl. So maybe look at it this way. Q
is Ohio in a way like are they separated in
a way where the certain like if it's eastern or
western or southern part of north and south? Okay, so
(07:34):
north and South do you guys have do you guys
meet at the state championship and stuff like that, like
like that is that's north or north Ohio? There's Ohio
North South? Yeah, yeah, I played. What I'm saying is
like in terms of your school is on the north side,
somebody else that's like a good quarterback is on the
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south side. You guys meet in the state championship. Like
that's the equipal in a p A like p I
A scholastic sports. It's like we're we western side of
the state will end up playing the eastern side of
the state for the state championship. You know, well you've
you've got you've got four regions, so all those four
(08:16):
regions all funnel into the final four and it and
it just depends on how who ends up running the regions.
So yeah, I mean, technically there's the possibility of the
North South facing you know, or a North team face
and the Southern team. Um, like the year we played
in it, I'm trying to think we played we were
considered a Northern team. We're a northern suburb of Columbus,
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but we were playing a Cincinnati team who went on
to end up losing to a Northern team after they
beat us. I think they lost to Warren Harding. So
it's like, right, so like you think your region is,
but like it's the rivalry of what you think your
region is. So our rivalry is we think we're better,
we're better football players than than the Eastern side. But
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there's some really really rate football on the eastern side
of the state, like with like Bethalom Catholic, And I
don't want to go into like all the details, but
but the idea of it is is that it's still
the Eastern side. So we meet up and become teammates
at Penn State. That's why Penn State is interesting because
it represents the whole entire state, you know what I mean.
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So you're when when local recruits, like when top recruits
come in, you know, you're there's always the rivalry of
oh you're from Philly, Okay, you know what? Up? You
know what what up? You know, like they're they're different
slaying terms that you know, we we have our deal
and like we we say kuzo or whatever it may be.
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So everybody has their different different things. But the bottom
line is back to the original point. I do not
think Philadelphia is going to to slaughter Pittsburgh. They'll probably win,
but I think it would be tighter than that would
be less than that point. I know in in Dublin, Ohio,
where I'm familiar with, though, we say what's up, slappy,
I know that's what we say. But again, like you
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could travel across the way and go to Westerville. You
could go up to Delaware or even Marysville if you
wanted to. But again, I'm just you know, I'm just
talking Dublin, you know stuff like people people in Detroit
think they created what though, But you know, Pittsburgh people,
we were what up people too, So I don't know,
you know, yeah, you a little that, yeah, but just
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I'm not I don't know what you're talking about. That
is not the case at all, that I don't. I
don't know what you're getting at. Here a gross city,
I there is a there is a Grove City College. Um,
I believe it's actually a Juco. But there's also a
Grove City in Ohio. For whatever reason, you st always
schedule us for their homecoming. So that's that's why we've
(10:47):
been ruining homecoming there one. It's really disrespectful. Um all right,
So if you guys had to guess who's the starting
quarterback for the New England Patriots moving forward based on
what we saw last night, they're getting zapped? Are are
they getting zapped? You think it's gonna be mac Jones?
(11:08):
All right, I'm going I'm going zapped. I think they're
getting zapped. I think that's where we're headed here. This
is uh, it doesn't matter if they both play, I
mean serious questions. So they're gonna go platoon. I'd be
into that. Let's go platoon. Let's let's do what they're
the same guy either head shot. They look like they
could be twins. I know they should still sets the
exact same. They should switch jerseys and you see, if
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anybody notices, why not just send him out there? At
this point, the Patriots aren't a good football team, so
why not just send him out there and see what
you got? I mean, Belichick, he's not retiring after this year,
he's got he's got more wiggle room there. What if
what if the New England Patriots finished lower than Jets.
I mean, it's definitely possible right now based on the record.
(11:51):
By the way, that would be one of the biggest
accomplishments for the Jets organization in the last fifteen to
twenty years, is the fact that they finished ahead of
the New England Patriots, who right now are the format
of the a f C East. That might be the
nail in the coffin for the Belichick Brady debate, even
regardss of how the Bucks look, because the Bucks a
(12:12):
three and four but still a top of the NFC South. Yeah,
the regarless with the Bucks do this year, that might
be the nail in the coffin for Bill Belichick and
that debate. I it's just it's so it's kind of
disrespectful though to the success that Belichick has had, isn't it.
I Mean, like everyone wants to do the comp game
and say, well, what did Brady do after he went
(12:34):
to Tampa Bay and all that? Yeah, I don't. I
don't think. I don't think Tom Brady has the six
super Yeah. No, And I don't think Tom Brady has
the six Super Bowls about Belichick and vice versa. The
fact that three or four and a half actual Brady
was a fine quarterback in college. But Tom Brady was
not what he was in the league. I'll tell you
(12:57):
that that the different dude in the lead I played
against both. He was not the same dude in the
league that he was in college. And listen, I don't
know if you attribute that to Bill Belichick. I don't
know if it's someone else that came into Tom Brady's life.
Somebody meant toward him, somebody showed him how to study
(13:18):
film differently, see something whatever. I have no idea who
the credit goes to in terms of why he turned
into that player in the league. But he was not
that player in college. He was, he was a fine
football player, but not I don't even know that he was.
Was he No, I don't even know if he was
an All American in college, because Drew Henson was. I
(13:39):
mean that was he was split in time. They were
splitting time. Um. The adjusted win total for the New
England Patriots is seven and a half. They're sitting at
three wins right now. They're at the Jets coming up
this weekend. They've got the Colts and then the Jets again. Uh,
and then they're at Minnesota, the Bills at the Cardinals.
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There's a chance to Jets can see both quarterbacks and
it's like it's like a three game series in baseball.
You get a different starter each time you see them.
So yeah, there's so yeah, that's what we're looking at. God,
they may not. They may not finish with more than
seven wins. If you just look at the remainder of
their schedule Vikings, Bills at the Cardinals at the Raiders, Bengals,
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Dolphins at the Bills. Cheese, man, this could be a
six win football team when it's all said and done.
So we could be looking at a six and eleven
Patriots team moves in the playoffs last year. Yikes. So
that's a problem. But I'm sure they'll have fun with
that locally there in Boston. They'll be nice to them
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and uh, apparently the Big Ten is going to stick
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with the same divisional format the East West divisions for
another season before U c l A and USC decided
to head on over in four. So for those of
you that were wondering, man, are we still going to
have to sit and watch the Big Ten be split
up into two divisions for another year as we get
Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State and sort of
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the juggernauts in that conference on one side, and then
your produce and your Northwesterns and your Iowa Hawkeyes. By
the way, Iowa has still not scored a hundred points
on the season in total, so that is a just
a well run offense through and through. But as it
stands right now, we are going to get the same
divisional format there, Brady Quinn, East and West and the
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Big Ten for another go at it. The interesting thing
about that is at least if you look at how
this year is setting up, and Lavarn, it's not that
I don't want to fact in Penn State they are
a double digit underdog this week at home. Um, there's
no doubt the factor's good. They are really good. The
scheduling part that becomes really interesting once the Big Ten
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moves to a top two team format is if you
look at how things are setting up this year, you'd
essentially have a High State Michigan and back to back weeks.
So it becomes really interesting to me, like the importance
in the magnitude of that game, it kind of goes
away a bit because the loser would still end up
playing again if those were the top two teams, since
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they play at the end of the season of the
regular season, they just played each other again the following
a week in Indianapolis. So kind of an interesting thought
to just how that impacts what has been the greatest
rivalry in college football, at least in my opinion, And
and looking moving forward, the fact that the Big Ten
wants to do this full well, admitting that it might
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end up I don't know. I'm not sure if it's
a good thing for the Big Ten. You know, usually
they have a really strong team out of the East,
whether it's Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, whoever. That's gonna
be playing a lesser team from the Big Ten West,
but it's probably ranked and you so you still get
that win that launches you into the College Football Playoff.
If there's expansion, probably doesn't matter as much. But if
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it stays at four teams, depending on how long that's
going to be, you could end up eliminating one of
your teams out of it. Or if you had a
scenario where one team beats one the one week, the
next week, the other team beats you know that team,
and all of a sudden, you don't get any teams
in the playoff. It's just kind of interesting thing that
obviously isn't gonna playoff for a couple of years now,
but something that I wonder if the Big Ten has
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discussed and contemplated and there's no way they're moving that
game Thanksgiving weekend towards any other point in the season. Correct,
this isn't one of these, you know, just to avoid that. Man,
You've got people who are probably out there smoking weed
on the Santa Monica peer who were thinking this is
Big Ten country, Like, what the hell I mean? But
that's that's out there ripping waves of Big ten country.
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Bro see, But that's tradition. Man. We need the game,
the game Thanksgiving weekend. That's got to happen. You can't
move that. And I know it's gonna be a little
awkward to see these two teams play again the following week.
But I just I never complain, Like when people were
complaining about Clemson and Alabama meeting in the National Title
Game every year, Like, those are the two best teams
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in the country. If you can tell me we're gonna
get the two best teams in the country in the
National Championship Game every year, I'm in, like that's yeah,
Like I I so, I'm not. I'm not that opposed
to these two teams having to see each other. Think
about Georgia. You think about Georgia and Alabama. I mean,
I thought, I think it's pretty cool if you see
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one team wins the SEC, you meet them and they
don't necessarily win the National Championship. Yeah, I think that's
pretty interesting. You know. So if you're getting the two
best teams and they're from the A Conference, so be it.
You know, So we better not saying that. I'm saying
the issue is you might not get either team because
this format. No, I'm not debating you're you're I'm not
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debating what the point you made. I'm just saying in general,
for me, I would love to see the two best teams,
whether they're from the same conference or not. I don't care.
Can I say something that's gonna piss off probably a
lot of people by default? The Big Ten champion should
be an automatic bid into the College Football Playoff. I'm sorry, Like,
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at what point do we start with that it's either
the best or second best conference in the country, the
SEC champ in the Big Ten champs should have two
spots automatically in the College I would disagree with that
at all. Jonas, I just I don't disagree with that.
I think based on how expansion looks like it's going
to go, both the SEC, Big Ten and as well
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as the other power of fives will almost assuredly get
their conference champions in. It just comes down to how
many other teams When you start to actor in the
language that includes at large bids, well, that's a group
of five teams, an independent, et cetera. However you view
that that's that's gonna be an interesting spot. But we're
not there yet. You know, we can't figure out a
way of agreeing on how we want to go about
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defining how many teams playoff for a national championship. But
I will say this, I mean I feel like that
hopefully that day is rapidly approaching because I think if
you're a U c, l A and USC fan you're
frustrated with them joining the Big Ten, you know, some
of that slows down. I think at least if you know,
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you're a conference like the Pact twelve or Big twelve
and you have a conference champion that gets automatic bid,
you know, outside of the money that's tied to some
of the TV rights, you know, you're still able to
generate you know, power in recruiting, power and being able
to say, hey, we were part of the College fall playoff.
It's an easier path to get there, and so that
at least helps to a degree. Um but ultimately, again,
(21:57):
you're still gonna be behind the April if you can't
generate enough ray things as one of those college football
brands to compete with what the Big Ten and the
SEC are pushing out. Oregon hasn't because it's there's so many,
so much movement, it's already keep track of. Oregon hasn't
made a decision on if they're leaving the Pack twelve yet,
have they? I know there have been rumblings about them
potentially leaving, But again my intuition is this, most like
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Kevin Warrant, for example, the Big Ten might say, hey,
we'd love an even number, and we'd love to add
on an Oregon, Washington, two bigger markets on the West coast,
um you know, high academic standard, Stanford cal We'd love
to add those programs to our conference. But you might
have a TV network that pushes back and go, well,
we can bid on those rights through the Pack twelve,
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which is a lot cheaper. So what we don't want
you to have them join their conference. And obviously, you know,
behind the scenes, we're the ones who are ultimately paying
for the rights to showcase these college programs. So it
might be something that you see conference commissioners talk about.
I don't know that it makes as much business sense,
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especially as some of these different conferences negotiate their TV
rights deals. Whether that's the Big twelve, it sounds like
that's gonna be up next eventually the Pack twelve or
redo theirs as well. But the truth of the matter is,
you know, adding more teams doesn't necessarily bring more value
to your conference. It only dilutes what's currently there. You
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So basically, anybody in the PAC twelve offices is just
rooting for Oregon to win the conference this year. Just
send U c L A and USC packing in a
couple of years, but just to roll with the Oregon
that's gonna stick around. It was a bad look a
couple of weeks ago when you had the top two
teams as far as rankings, go over USC in U
c L A and they're gone going on another confidence Reynolds,
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I'll put it this way. There's a realistic scenario though,
where think about that. If U see and U c
l already leaving, you have four other teams in Oregon, Washington,
and Stanford, Cal. I mean, you're not going to have
a Pack twelve because then if you're Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado,
they're all going to turn to the Big twelve and go, Hi,
how are you doing? Can we can we join? I mean,
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there's a realistic scenario where the Patch twelve is the
Power five conference that may not exist in regards at
least of football. Yeah, that's uh well, it's too bad. Well,
I mean, look, blame yourselves. By the way, I was
trying to find a few weeks ago the Oregon State
USC game, trying to find it on the Pack twelve
network somewhere. What a disaster like it's still to this day,
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all these years later, it is a disaster to find
anywhere you can stream it unless you have a certain account.
You know, you get like five minutes of a free
preview and then it closes back down. So they can
blame themselves for it all they want. That's their problem.
It is too pros and a cup of joe here
on fs are. We are going to get to our
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twelve minutes from now. So we did get the confirmation.
The news not good in uh l A for the
Chargers almost just said San Diego, sorry about that. Still
working on that. Uh the l A Chargers J. C.
Jackson ruptured patella. There was reports it was a dislocated kneecap.
That is not the case. It's even more severe. He's
done for the year. Mike Williams got a high ankle sprain.
(25:15):
He's done for several weeks. Uh, it's heading south in
a hurry for the l A Chargers. Not not great
as they continue to deal with injuries. Another year and
the injury bug bites them in the ass. So there's
that for the l A Chargers. Uh. Not not not
ideal for anybody involved. So both l A teams look
like they're struggling a little bit here. So we knew
(25:36):
the injuries were there waiting for confirmation, and we got
it yesterday on both those guys. What the f man,
What that's a fortunate I mean, obviously he signed a
big money deal. Um hadn't played that great though before
the injury this season, you know. And that's the tough
part is I think they're hoping for more out of
At one point he got benched this season. So tough
loss there. Mike Williams is a tough loss for and
two is the living receiver right now. But they've been
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kind of digging at dunk more. I think that's a
byproduct of their offensive line. Not you know, let's protect
Herbert quite as much. But you know it's has got
fifty three catches on the season. Next close is Williams
at thirty seven. So yeah, they've been they've been using it.
Did get Keenan Allen back, though, I mean he'll he'll
be able to replace that, you know, void to a degree.
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So um, he's some time. And then what do you
make of a P. J. Walker? He's going to be
the starter moving forward, or at least that. Steve Wilkes says,
I don't see why not why he wouldn't remain the
starter there in Carolina. That's am I crazy. That's the
best quarterback performance that I can recall Caroline has gotten
in at least a couple of years. What we saw Sunday, Well,
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what's interesting about that? I think one of you guys
pointed it out, maybe it was you Que that this
was Matt Rule's guy, like he brought he brought the
kid in and who knows who you know, Baker Mayfield's
guy or Sam Arnold's guy. Who knows who brought those
guys in? Right? That might have been ownership. Then now
(27:02):
that rule isn't there. You put in the guy he
brings in and they get a good quarterback play and
they win the game, a big game, right, So, I
don't know. Sometimes sometimes success is right there, you're right
there at it. Sometimes you know the right decision is
right there and you see it staring you in the face.
It's just a matter of sometimes who makes the decision,
(27:25):
you know, who does it or if it does work
out when you know, if ever that decision is made,
you know. And so I don't know. Maybe maybe that's
under the surface of what was going on there. There's
a pretty good team in Carolina. I think we'll find out.
I mean, there was the question will this be a
good team? Um? Will will they rally or will they
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lay down? You know, teams usually either rally around one
another when when the coaches let go during the season
or they just you know, don't have the effort or
whatever one reason or another, they just don't play well
and they continue to play worse. So this team, this
team rallied. It'll be interesting to see with PJ and
(28:08):
with the you know, the circumstances they have right now
in Carolina, can they continue to win? If they turn
this thing around, then where do you get the credit to?
You know? And I think that that's always an interesting
discussion to have. Yeah, look at me, I'm not gonna
say it's the best performance that the Panthers have had
in a couple of years. I thought p J. Walker
did well, you know, obviously couldn't have to get him
(28:29):
to win. I thought the defense played outstanding. That was
more of the biggest takeaway. I just I wonder if
at some point, if you're David Tepper as the owner,
you're paying Sam Donald once he's healthy, if you're not
saying I'm paying the guy, might as well come in
and play and and and Sam Donald did. He'd have
a few big performances early on last season before things
started to fall apart. I mean, look at the beginning
(28:50):
of the season. They started off with three and oh
last year mistaken, Yes, they I mean they got off
to a hot start. He was playing well, and then
everything started to fall at Kaffrey. McCaffrey got hurt, and
then everything well again, Well McCaffrey had to stay at home. Yeah,
nurses was kind. I'm glad that's correct. Glad you brought
let me go freaking on that. And to see how
how that rehab is gone for Christian. Do you think
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there'll be a injury prone in San Francisco. H McCAT, mom,
I don't know. I mean a good question. There's there's
just a lot of things that get in the way.
Did she go to San Francisco? Yeah, she's probably been
begging for a bigger city closer to NAPA, all sorts
of great, Well, she's more if she's in wine country
and she's you know, handling that, maybe Christian has more
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downtime to play football, you know. Yeah, I mean that's possible. Yeah,
that's that is possible. Yeah, I'm just I didn't catch
what I just did, right, Yeah, Okay, I was catching
some molts. Um up Jonas. Again, this is just you know, research,
because we want to make sure that we're on top
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do we stand on the season? Um? Because I think
basically everything before this week was all priests easing correct
and now this is the real stuff starting ac according
to some If that were the case, then Brady's had
a great preseason. Brady Brady has been U dominant so far.
Yeah how many? How many game lead does he have
(33:14):
over everybody else? At least a full week on LaVar
and at least he's let's just say he's double g
Jones If I've been laughed, good god? All right, So
what about what happened last night? Well, last night, unfortunately
I didn't I did not catch any highlights from Super
Bowl twenty. Yeah they didn't, Yeah they did. Surprise there Yeah,
(33:36):
so throw that one out. Yeah, we did go to
most rushing yards in the game. Um, we had David
Montgomery on there, we had Romandre Stevenson, we had Damian Harris,
but it was actually Justin Fields who led the field.
Throw that one out. How did Romandre Stevenson not have
a better night? The rush defense has been a problem
all year. It's been bad and and well that's that's
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the thing though, is we really wanted to showcase the
quarterback controversies, so Matt Patricia wanted to air it out
with mac Jones and Bailey's appy out that one we
want to get zapped? So happened? All right here we
now we started getting into it who finished the game
at quarterback for the Patriots obviously between mac Jones and
Bailey's appy. Well, LaVar and Brady, you guys took mac
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Jones jonas you did, in fact correctly predict Bailey's as
ai because we both said mac Jones, draw him up,
got zapped. Good for you if that's your way of
getting your us. Good for you. That might be the
only one he got. What was the others we had?
What would the Bears have more of touchdowns, field goals?
Or turnovers. LaVar, you had turnovers that was one. Jonas,
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you had touchdowns that was three. Brady you had field
goals that was four. Brady took one. I don't know
about that. Ye Are we sure about that? We're sure
about the number of field goals there? We totally positive.
I mean, I mean I think I should go back. Yeah,
I think we should go back. Maybe you look at it.
Are you saying Cairo Santos is four for four from
field goals? Will that be twelve points? They finished with thirty?
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What three? Okay, so twelve plus twenty one, which is
three touched out, would be thirty three. Interesting, Well, they
should have had another touchdown. I think it was that
another one where you just didn't do the math the
what happened? Now? I did? I did the math. I
was trying to find a way out of it. Okay, listen,
I'm familiar with what the differences between four and three. Okay,
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I did survive that class as. Lastly, we h we
tried to predict the color of Bill Belichick's hoodie between blue, red, gray,
or no hoodie at all. Jonas, you picked no hoodie.
Bad choice by you. Brady you took blue and LaVar,
you correctly predicted gray. By the way, why would Belichick
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go with gray and those sort of conditions? All right,
when you want a dark color generally where well, I
don't want to say that I'm from my recollection. He
wears gray away they're at home, LaVar, what do you wear? Yeah,
well then I don't know whatever I mean. My guest
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would be he wants to stand out because they were
blue for the uniforms at home. So you want people
to see you, you wear blue, you might blend in
with everyone. So a real showman that Belan ship. I
thought he thought he was just gonna be one of
the guys in the team, you know, so I thought
he were blue as well. I thought he wears blue
at home. But okay, by the way, do you think
the challenge flag in the sock is a weird thing
(36:32):
to do? Like? No, I like that. Yeah, it's a
little weird. It's kind of like the people who care
like a pistol in their sock, you know. Yeah, it's
like his challengers mini pistol in your sockse miniature ones.
It's like Michael Douglas pistis camera breathe out of his ears,
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Michael Douglas looks for pistols. He does snorkels too, so LaVar.
What do you wear when you coach? Do you go
hoodie like with cutt off sleeves or what are you
going with? Who are you coaching? I wear a zipp up,
a zippap hoody? Yeah? Where is Rady? What would you
wear if you coached? I could see you going whatever
the team gets me? You know the team issue. No,
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I've coached a little before. It's one of the team
gives you, you know, the team, one of the guys.
It'd be tucked in. It looks like he was going golfing,
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