October 31, 2022 • 41 mins
Jonas and Brady react to some of the biggest games from Week 8 including Tua and the Dolphins getting past the Lions, the Eagles extending their undefeated season and the Cowboys running through Justin Fields and the Bears. Plus stories from the road on the FSR IR.
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be for Halloween, man, Uh nothing, yeah anything? Yeah, well listen,
I mean I would like to it, just want I
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want to. I want to do it up and have
the costume and the pageantry and the party and the
celebration and all that. But we gotta be up so early,
and there's Monday night football on later on. You know,
I'm so committed to the craft, you know that I
don't want to let anything else to to holiday or not.
Some people would say, it's just it's just Halloween. It's
not like you're gonna get drunk off candy. So you
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mean you could probably go out for a little bit
in trick or treat. Yeah, but I feel like it
would take my focus away from a Monday night football
game the Battle of Ohio, and I just feel like
I gotta, you know, as an Ohio guy, I feel
like I gotta be you know, locked and loaded, ready
to go to represent my people in Chillicothee. You know
what I mean. You where my dog came from. Though
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A lot of dogs come from Chilicothee, Ohio. It was
just a big breeding ground for dogs. Yeah. By the way,
I never put two and two together until right this moment,
which is always your favorite thing that I do. I
never realized that my bull mast if came from Chilicothee, Ohio.
And later the Brown's mascot became a bull mast if.
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So maybe somewhere along the bloodline, my dog has a
relative who actually was the idea behind the Brown's mascot change.
How about it? Huh talking about connection? Maybe you and
I don't know, it's a possibility. I'm just more thinking
about how as you drive through Chilicothee, Ohio, there's a
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chance that you're just gonna see some dogs sucking up
a lot of bread there, you know there, Well, listen,
dogs give you the side like, hey man, what are
you looking at? Get a little frisky all right? So,
um so let's get to do this conversation to uh.
Looks great. No, it doesn't seem like there's any like
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concussion issues or anything like that. He feels like he's
bounced back and he's played at a high level. And
they are damn fun to watch man. And yesterday was
a little bit closer than I think a lot of
people expected it to be. Especially in the first half.
Detroit was really competitive and then all of a sudden
Miami caught fire. But with Jalen Waddle and Tyree Hill
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and Tuah and McDaniel running that offense, that that's one
of the more enjoyable teams to watch because they look
different than anybody else, because nobody on that team, as
far as I'm concerned, is over five eight. Like it
just start again. It feels like they're they're the Shetland Ponies. Yeah,
and there they're the Shetland Ponies that you always refer
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to of the NFL. Looks there's a fast selling Ponies.
I mean, they have a four by one hundred meter
track team that could probably qualify for the Olympics at
this point. Actually, dude, I'm not lying either. I feel
whatever he Mostard and Tyreek Kill and Joe and Waddle
like their actual track stats like they probably could all
make a qualify. Um, it's just you said it best.
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Just it has a different feel to it. Then I
think a lot of other offenses in the NFL. And
there's a couple of reasons. One is to his skill
set to a has such a good knack for you know,
feeling windows when they're opening, being able to shape a throw,
meaning being able to throw a ball with touch, Like
he doesn't have a Josh Allen arm, so it's not
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gonna be a laser, but he can layer a throw
in there over a defender that drops two is intended
to receiver. And you you saw a couple of times
for some touchdown pass Becasicki in particular yesterday, but he
has this just this knact of kind of bounce in
the pockets, see in the field well, seeing the windows open.
And I think one of the better things he does
is keep his eyes down field. He's a guy who's
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sustained a lot of hits this season, and even even
in doing that, he's come back and he's still remained
confident in his ability to keep his eyes downfield, not
be impacted by the rush and look for Tyreek Hill
and look for Jalen Waddle. But um, you know, that's
been one thing that's that stood out to me. I
just think the overall development with Mike McDaniel and the
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confidence that Mike McDaniel has given two because you see
him playing with that and you see, you know, to
executing the scheme perfectly. It's got a stink for Brian
Flores not only to be watching how well Miami's playing
with Towah without him there, but then also to be
on a team that's struggling mightily in the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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I mean, just has no hope in my opinion, for
going to the playoffs. The rest of the season. It's tough,
I mean, and we'll get to that. I mean, even
your rookie quarterbacks calling out people for not studying enough.
But there are fun team to watch, and I think
had he got not gotten knocked out for a couple
of games or what two or three games whatever ended
up being, and we we'd probably be looking at them
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as one of the top teams in the a f
C because people tend to forget they beat the Bills,
that's who that well, that's where that loss came from.
So I just I'm happy to see him playing well,
doing well. I think it's also one, you know, one
of those things you'd say that to, you know, you
say to young quarterbacks out there, like if they get
enough time, eventually, with the right pieces, the right coach,
they can excel. All these guys can We talked about
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Zack Wilson to start off the show. He can excel.
They're getting the right pieces around him. It's just now,
is is la Fleur the right coach for him as
a play caller? And and how much time are you
willing to wait for him to develop into the guy
where you drafted him number two overall? Like that's the
reality of the whole the whole situation. All these cats
can play well enough to go play professional football and
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get paid. It's just about the situation and circumstances there
in Well. I mean, look, this is how fast things
change if you've just given an opportunity and somebody actually
believes in you and doesn't pull you from games when
you're trailing on the road as a rookie. Like we
thought we had it all figured out. When you go
back to that draft class, Burrow Herbert toa and everybody
was already anointing the Miami Dolphins as the biggest with
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by passing up on Justin Herbert and taken to ah,
let's call this what it is. Too has had a
better year than Herbert by far. It's not even not
even close. And we're like what a few months removed
from everyone saying Justin Herbert is gonna be the name.
This is not so much a knock on Justin Herbert.
They're dealing with a lot of issues themselves, but just
call it what it is. Two has been better than
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Herbert this year. He's been one of the best quarterbacks
in the a f C. If you if you just
look at the way he's played when he's been out there,
So it's it is funny. I mean, we all try
to look back in retrospect sale things look, but with
the way things are trending right now. Yeah, he doesn't
to it, doesn't have the skill set of Justin Herbert,
but he also has a skill set that that Herbert
doesn't have. You know, Herbert doesn't have the ability to
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throw the ball with touch like toa does now. But
I look, I think people for who are Justin Herbert
fans would also said, well, he's gonna have Tyreek killing
Jalen Watt. Now he does have some studs of wide
receiver and Keenan Allen when he's healthy, and Mike Williams
and obviously even Eckler could play a role and all
that kind of like most are does in the passing game.
But you know, at this point, um, I would say
their teams are on two different trajectories at this point
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to it kind of remember the draft class the Philip Rivers,
Eli Manning, Ben proms you you can argue, all right, well,
who is the best one of all time? You know,
are are all three hall of famers? Is it just
elone Ben? Because of the Super Bowls? Point being though,
all of those guys had great careers, all of them,
and they all were franchise quarterbacks. And so I kind
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of look at this draft and I go, yeah, you
can argue armed talent to us, you know, not on
the same level as Burrow and Herbert here, and he
doesn't have the measurables and all that. But I think
we're gonna look back and go, these are all good quarterbacks,
Like this is a good quarterback draft class, and I
think they're gonna win a bunch of games for their teams,
and and and to your point, like, first off, all
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three of those guys I think are Hall of famers.
And I think all you know, three of these guys
who would venture into that like I think, I mean Burrow,
you know, we'll see what he does to Night versus
Cleveland that the past defense has been pretty spotty this
year for the Browns, so he should be able to
put up some big numbers, even though Jamar Chase isn't there.
But he's the one to keep an eye on. I
think for m v P now, it's hard to think
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that he could win it over Hurts or or Josh
Allen the way those two are playing, but the way
they throw the football with a town he has around him.
If they win the a f C North, they start
creeping back up into this thing. It would be interesting
to see if Burrow can make some waves there for
that m v P hunt. You want to hear Dan
Campbell postgame, the Allion's head coach. Interesting analogy here from
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Dan Campbell, who I mean, God bless the Detroit Lions.
I mean, there was all this hope, all this optimism.
You got to call it alliance game earlier this year.
You sawn up close and personal that vaunted defense on
par with the eighty five Bears, and uh here was
here was Tan Campbell afterwards. My thought is that as
frustrating as it is, I know how close were are
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because we are still talking about one play and Uh,
the hard thing is to just keep doing your job,
you know, and stand in the thick of the storm,
and uh the easy thing is to go down below
and get under the blanket and eat all the food
and whatever. It's the guys who are going to stay
on the deck and just continue to do their part
because they know the sun's coming, that's those are the
guys we're looking for. Who the hell eats food under
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their blanket, you know what I mean? It feels a
little messy. Well, I think there's an analogy to like,
be on a boat, this this quest, this journey. I mean,
you know, just uh it yea, at some point it's
cold out there. The boat sometimes definitely does so. I
mean I'm like, I'm not saying that anybody's job is
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in jeopardy or anything like that. I think I think
a lot of people look at it and go, well,
you know, Jared Goff was brought here. You know, he's
he started off the year playing really good football and
it's been kind of you know, up and down with
some poor performances since and he's turning the ball over.
But I do just feel like we keep hearing the
same things over and over again. We're close. We're almost there.
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We're close. Where this and that they're the worst team
in the NFL, like they're gonna be picking number one
overall again. And it just seems like no matter who
is that the ever Detroit, this is just gonna be
what it's gonna be. Hold on, are they the worst team? Like?
I watched that team and I feel like they they're
a more competitive games than you could maybe say for
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the Bears at times. I mean I don't. I mean,
I know at one point yesterday that Dallas game was
competitive by large ones. The Jacksonville Jaguars have fallen off.
That's like a team that's not very competitive anymore. All right,
Final four matchup? All right? This is this is a
fun final four matchup here, all right for the worst
team in the NFL. I actually think they should make
this happen, like like like throw this on you want
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to get rid of the Pro Bowl, throw this this
battle on before the Super Bowl. Alright. So we're gonna
say the Lions are the one seed. They'll be playing
the four seed, the Jacksonville Jaguars, and then your two
three matchup is going to be Houston and Carolina. Who
you got which uh, which Houston is pretty bad right now.
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That game yesterday, Here's what I hate is I have
to do picks for my work with CBS. And it
was before that we had learned Ryan Tannehill was out,
which ends up impacting obviously the game playing and has
nothing to do with Molik willis more to do with
the fact that if you're Mike Vrabel and you've got
a rookie quarterback at his first start, you're probably gonna
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rely heavily on Derrick Kenny and and and being that
they did rely heavily on Derrick Henry, I would have
changed my pick and been like, all right, maybe there's
laying the points here with the Tennessee Titans, because that
was a fishy line. Like I remember seeing that and going,
why are the Titans not a bigger favorite? And so
I went with the Texans, thinking all right, someone knows something.
But clearly that did not work out when, uh, when
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Malik Willis went in just tending off the ball to
Derrick Henry for the majority, that was my t g
G game of the week, you know, the Titans Texans game.
My t g G the thank God, what is your
g thank God for gambling Game of the week. Otherwise,
who the FS watch of that game? You gotta be
kidding me. But Malik Will said, what five yards? Why
don't you do the t G F G because t
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G G sounds better. It sounds like a fighter. Yeah,
I mean it sounds it sounds like a fighter from
eastern Europe. Yeah. Well, we're still you know, we're still
trying to tie that all together, trying to trying to
figure out whether or not we can get that Who's we?
Is that like you? And Lee? Is that like you?
Like when you talk to yourself in the mirror in
the mornings, like, who is that? Exactly? J K? Jonah
knocks enterprises? What do you mean? Yeah, we're just how
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many employees are part of j K? Listen, I'm not
I'm not here to discuss you know, there's tax implications
when you ask stuff like that. I'm not. I'm not
ready to discuss any of you know, there's an LLC.
Is that what they call it? You know? Yea, So
we're good here, but the the Houston Texans and Tennessee Titans.
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I mean, hey, man, I don't you know, should should
Bryan Tannehill will be worried about his job long term
or probably not after after what we saw yesterday. I
don't think so. I mean, look, it's not like he's
been able to excuse me, he hasn't been able to
light the world on fire, in part because turn away
A J. Brown. Right, by the way, there's one team
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that regrets a trade more is the Tennessee Titans right now, Yeah,
by the way. And A J. Brown wanted to stay.
He didn't want to be traded, and he's gotta be
looking around going damn, they kind of got out of there.
He's not that bad a spot, like they're they're gonna
win the a f C South Um. But you know,
then they he goes to Philly and they're just lighting
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in it on fire. I mean they're just setting setting
the NFL on fire. The Philadelphia goes by the way,
have you seen Philadelphia schedule the rest of the way? Okay, alright,
So so they're at Houston, all right, and I think
we can all you know, and that's a short week.
So they're gonna be at Houston this upcoming Thursday. But
then they've got the commanders at home, they're at Indianapolis,
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and then they've got the packers and the Titans. After that,
they've got the Giants and the Bears. Like I just
feel like they could they could get into the into
the area of could they actually do it. I'm not
saying they're going to go undefeated, but there's it's not
that daunting of a schedule the rest of the way.
I can't find more than maybe two losses on their schedule.
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And when you consider that Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts
were supposed to be the stop gap, you know, replacements
until they find, you know, their next long term head coach,
because Sirianni was one of the last guys hired. If
I'm not mistaken, I mean, we could be looking at
a fifteen and two season or even better than that
in year two of this which which is crazy to
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think about considering all the expectations coming in and they
got draft picks. Man, Philadelphia's rolling your guy, Nick Sirianni.
By the way, the pies on passion based on his
antics um on the sidelines of her Dallas was that
two weeks ago? Um over, Yeah, yeah, it was that.
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That feels like you're gonna it's gonna come back to
bite him in the ass at death. Well, I was
actually gonna say the opposite. It feels like that's exactly
what Philly wants out of their head coach. You know,
they want to make sure it's known. Although there was
a number of head coaches this weekend who um, yeah,
we're getting get a little payback, you know with some
of their talks and the sure if you're saw Lane Kiffin, yeah,
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nice win over Texas al himself. They can't help himself.
Uh Gimo Fish, you're that's not that's not going all
that Well, I saw you and Bruce Feldon we're talking
about it. And if if the buyout Actually this is
a good question for you, what would the buyout number
have to be? Because what is it at right now?
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Six millions? Like that? What would the buyout number have
to be for Texas A and M to feel comfortable
walking away from Jimbo Fisher If I had to guess,
If I had to guess, I would say, like thirty million.
I think they've got enough really rich people who could
come up with the money to pay him. But I
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mean it's hard because he the one thing he hasn't
solved is the quarterback spot there. Like when you go
back to Florida State when they won a national championship.
It had a lot to do the fact that you know,
you had Jamis Winston leading the way and he was
kind of that leader. That guy's gravitated towards He has
not been able to find that at Texas A and
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m kelln mon was there, but he kind of, you know,
inherited that, and and Mond played well towards the end
they got They got a nice win in the Orange
Bowl his final year. But since then it's just been
like a revolving door. And now it looks like Carnor Wigman,
who was a freshman who played pretty well even despite
a loss, played pretty well this past week. Maybe he's
the guy. But you get guys smoking weed in the
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locker room before the game, it's not a good look.
It's so I think obviously they were. You know, at
some point, if they want to move on from him,
they'll look to fire him with cause, and that that's
where you know, then there'll be a settlement. Despicable, I agree,
Jim Bo. Let me tell you it's not despicable though
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Heart Radio. Oh yeah, I was waiting for this one
for a while. Good who sings this? By the way,
I don't know. I guess my hips moving though. Bobby Pickett?
Who is it? Bobby Pickett? Bobby? How how old is
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this song? Oh? God is this from like the sixties. Yea, yeah, yeah,
let's do it over on there. I'll let's present it
at nineteen. Okay, yeah, I'm gonna I think this is
Uh if you'd have said it like sixty two, I
still might have taken the under lee. What do we got?
Let's go live to our I know how old this
song is? Insider lead to laugh of the latest. Wow,
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look at Brady Quinn Mr Music how bad? And uh,
I mean, isn't it you can got itself from the
sound the right exactly? Look at you, man, It's impressive.
My grandma listens to a lot of like fifties and
sixties whenever I go back and see her, so I
always feel like you have a decent tell for like
the music of that time. How it sounded. Oh yeah,
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My my kid loves oldies. His favorite song is the
Platters only you literally watches it NonStop. Loves it. That's
pretty cool? Yeah pretty uh like I mean spending some
of the other crap they're coming out with today. My god,
good for him. All right, it is two pros and
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from now, we are going to have another edition of
the F S R I R. I know Brady Quinn's
got a travel story for us. Oh my gosh, there's
two separate ones. But we need a little bit of
time to break this stuff down, so we will make
sure we get full time for that, all right. So
the Dallas Cowboys, Uh, they get it done yesterday. If
you were a fan of old school football, as in
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running the football and not a lot of run defense,
well this was the game for you. This is exactly
what you needed because both teams on the ground. Four
hundred forty yards rushing between those two teams, between the
Bears and the Cowboys Dallas, and uh, and away we
go with the Dallas Cowboys, and where's all the Cooper
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Rush fans like, what happened to that crowd? To that
look the interception was not great before the end of
the first alf, but Dak looked great early on man,
like when they were mixing it up, and it's it's
over right that the Tony Pollard or Zeke Elliott, it's like,
we're done with it, right, the best running back on
that team every and outside of Jerry Jones. I mean,
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just with the way he talks about Zeke and you know,
the physical nature that he brings to the game, and
he'll talk about all that and he's a punishing play
I mean, I get it. But Tony Pollard just has
that burst and that's what right now, you know, is
what really wins in the NFL. I mean, with the
exception of someone I guess like Derrick Henry who's just
so massive and so big no one wants to tackle him.
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I mean he was he was running off like ten
yard clips like every single time he was touching the ball.
But that's he's a unicorn. You don't find running backs
to look like him anymore. So in my opinion, yeah,
Tony Pollard gives them more pop, more big playability. He's
he's just got fresh legs, a little younger, and less
wear and tear. I think that plays a role too.
But this, this game, to me, signifies what we're seeing
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in the NFL. But but the problem is the Chicago
Bears were part of it. So people people will will
will try to disagree with the statement. Defenses now are
just they're more concerned about stopping big players in the
passing game and stopping the passing game more so in
general than allowing teams to run the football. Like that's
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just where we're at right now. If you look at
the type of coverages that we're playing, they're getting more zone,
more softer zones, a lot more cover to cover three,
cover four, but even some of the split safety looks
with cover to cover four some people call a quarter
quarter half cover six. I've been in enough systems, played
for enough teams. We call it a bunch of things.
But you're seeing it more and more, and the reason
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behind it is that's what they feel like this game
is it's just all about big plays, passing game, relying
on their quarterbacks and ride receivers to generate a bunch
of offense or pass catchers for that matter. Don't want
exclude the tight ends and running backs, but that that's
how defenses have have had to adjust. Last year, scoring
was down. It's one of the reasons why the NFL
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officials started to emphasize illegal contact because they thought twofold
one some defenders were getting away with it down the field.
But too they know if they're actually harder on illegal contact,
defensive holding, take a closer look at defensive past interference,
that's also gonna generate more scoring and that's what the
game really wants. And scoring was down, I want to
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say through the first at least four or five weeks
this season. So to me, I think you're saying it's
it's really more of what defense are doing to adjust
to how offenses have really had these high powered offenses,
whether it's Kansas City or even you know, Josh Allen
the Bills, and they're trying to sit back and say, look,
if you want to try to take a shot down field,
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go ahead and do it, but there's gonna be a
defender there or maybe two, and we're not gonna just
let you have these free runs where one of our
guys gets beaten man to man or we've got them
out there on an island in a single high zone coverage,
like they're just not gonna let you do that anymore.
So I think you're gonna see more and more teams
have to revert and get back to running the football
because of how defenses have had to adjust over the
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course of the past few years. By the way, you
and I a couple of weeks ago, got a little
bit of pushback, got our balls broken because we've tried
to speak positively about the progress that Justin Fields has made.
I'm telling you, man, there's something there. He's getting He's
getting better, he looks better, he looks more comfortable. And
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I would say this that Bears fans today are more
optimistic after a twenty point loss than they have been
after some wins over the past couple of years, based
on what you saw, because look, I mean it's a rebuild.
Ryan Poles came in. He identified there's a lot of
money tied up in the defensive line. Khalil Max gone,
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a Keem Hicks has gone. They moved on from a
lot of guys, so you're gonna have to wear it
and their inability to stop the run, which by the way,
makes last last week's and you pointed this out the
game plan for the Patriots against the Bears, after you
saw what the Dallas Cowboys did running for seven yards
to carry against him. The fact that the Patriots didn't
try and exploit that is toggling. I don't I don't
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get it, But justin fields, it feels like this is
headed in a direction where you've got to be really
happy if you're a Bear fan or remember that organization,
knowing all the salary cap space you're gonna have coming up,
you're actually gonna have a full set of draft picks.
It feels like there's there's some optimism there and it's
heading in the right direction. In that regard, there should
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be Look, you don't do what he did at the
college football level and not have the talent and ability.
It's just now transition to the NFL, where he went
from having probably the most if not top three, most
talented teams of a hundred and thirty one teams at
FBS when he was in college. I mean, he initially
started at Georgia, which is probably still part of that
(26:44):
top three top four conversation, and then went to Ohio State,
which is definitely part of that top three Top four conversation,
and he's now with the Bearess team that I think
if you looked at their roster as a whole in
particular though on offense, you would come away and say
it might be the worst like he and and look,
I'm not trying to disrespect any professional football players, but
(27:05):
to your point, you know they moved on from Alan Robinson,
Darnell Mooney ends up coming in now kind of being
their lead receiver. It's tough for Mooney, who's early on
in his career, to become that. And I think it's
tough for Justin Fields to be able to feel like
anyone can really separate outside of Darnell Mooney. I mean,
maybe you feel like cold comet. Can you know that
can be tough to do as a tight end though,
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especially if you're not able to run the football consistently.
I mean, and they do try to run the football,
but you do have some issues on your offensive line.
So it's like there's a lot of moving parts to
why the Bears are where they are from the record standpoint. Offensively,
I mean, Luke GETSI calling plays like that plays a
role in all this too. If you can't see some
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of the plays and some of his ability. I mean,
I mean, I'm sorry, I can't help you then, because
I think I think he's got a higher upside than
some of these other quarterbacks that we're talking about, you know,
going into their second and third year. He just does
his ability to run, his arm strength, his ability to
create some plays. He's just probably on one of the least,
if not the least talented offense in the NFL, and
(28:09):
so it's it's not going to be pretty for a while.
And so they start giving him some more help. I mean,
look at the draft class he came in with. Like
if you if you go back now and you look
at Trevor Lawrence, which I don't know that feels like
something's not right there. You look at Zach Wilson we
talked about, You look at Mac Jones, you look at
Justin Fields. I kind of I come away from that
and I go, I feel better about where Fields is
(28:31):
headed over all of those guys based on what we've
seen in the past couple of weeks. And yeah, he
didn't touch Michael Parsons when Parsons went down and returned
that fumble, and he admitted afterwards that he needed to
make that play. But I just I just think that
all this conversation and you were one of the ones
when when the draft took place, she said, Bear fans
(28:52):
are gonna love this guy. They're gonna love his work ethic,
They're gonna love everything he stands for, and he's accountable.
He's not throwing anybody under the bus. Is just gonna say,
has he complained once? I mean, has he questioned anything once?
And he all he does is go out there and
get his butt kicked at times, and he keeps getting
up and he keeps playing, and he keeps trying to
get back into games. There's something to be said for that. Yeah,
(29:14):
it is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. By the well, if Bear fans
are ridiculous, I mean, what do you want. Of course
they're gonna talk crap about the fans from time to time.
What was that again, Like he said, uh, they shouldn't
be booing or something like that, or first off, that
kind of got it was a response to a question
where he was saying, like no one out here like
(29:35):
feels worse or where something. Yeah, and and that got
a little taken out of context, which like my whole
thing would be I would say this generally, there was
never something someone said to me that that was booing me.
That was whether it was a fan of our team
because we weren't performing well, or or an opponent. There
was never something that someone said to me that was
(29:56):
worse than what was in my head when things weren't
going well, Like how how tough I would be on myself.
And there's a lot of other players that are like that,
And so that was more I think what he was
trying to elaborate on or explain, and it just probably
wasn't delivered the right way. But Roberto definitely trying to
uh or lead back there. That's that's how good. I mean,
(30:17):
that's just because Roberto has had a bad movie. Well, look,
we're gonna get to that later. We don't have time
right now, but we will get to that later. We're
gonna Berto vent a little bit here with Berto, just
so you know, I was on a losing end with
you on that. I'll tell I'll explain exactly what the
the pick was, but trust me, I was also very
frustrated the lack of offense by the well. I mean,
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I didn't read an interesting article yesterday about that very
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I told you that's okay, thank you, and he's not
wrong checking Sunday's actually wee gate in the NFL on
Sunday night, it was the Bills of the Packers seven
to seventeen. Buffalo six and one, leading the a f
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C East. Dear leaders in the NFC East is the Eagles,
and they beat the Steelers in Philadelphia, perfect seven and
on the season. Jalen Hurts four touchdown passes, three to
wide receiver A. J. Brown forty Niners over the Rams fourteen.
New San Francisco running back Christian McAffrey three touchdowns, one rushing,
one receiving and one passing, Eleventh player all time to
do that in the same game. Defending champion Rams are
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now three and four. Cowboys all over the Bears fore
Dallas at six and two. Dak Prescott three touchdowns, two passing,
one rushing to Tony Pollard three rushing scores as well.
Seahawks over the Giants twenty seven to thirteen. Seattle on
top of the NFC West with a five and three record,
Giants dropped to six and two. That was the only matchup,
by the way in Week eight of two teams with
a winning record against each other. When the Vikings over
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the Cardinals twenty six, Minnesota six and one, leading the
NFC North, the Falcons beat the Panthers thirty seven thirty
four and overtime. A tough game for Carolina kicker Eddie Pinero.
He missed a forty eight yard extra point that would
won the game in the final seconds because there was
an unsports bullet call after the touchdown. Then he missed
a thirty three yard fuldical that would have wanted in overtime.
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Atlanta gets the win four and four. There On top
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to twenty seven. It was the Commanders edging the Colts
seventeen to sixteen. Washington four and four on the season
now and they're the only team not above five hundred
in the NFC East right now. The Titans beat the
Texans seventeen to ten. Tennessee's at five and two. On
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to seventeen. Bill Belichick moves past George Hollis becomes the
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Brady Quinn taken away, Mr travel. Let's call this the
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airing of grievances from my travels. All right, I got
a lot of problems with you people out there, Okay,
a lot of problems. Let me start off by saying this,
and this is the This is the one that wasn't
quite as egregious at least I don't think so. Do
you guys take your shoes off on planes? Uh? No,
not well, sometimes depends the flight is Roberto, No lee
(36:44):
I have, but I cover it with a blankett, like
if if they give you a blake, I'll cover my feet, okay,
Eddie and anything for us. Yeah. I think I have
taken my shoes off before, which, look, there's nothing wrong
with taking them off. Where I found this to be
extremely gross and wrong is when you get up and
you walk to the bathroom of the plane, which is
(37:06):
just littered with urine and whatever else is on the
floor that hasn't been cleaned. I watched a guy in
the row in front of me get up, and I
happened to notice he was in his socks, and so
I'm thinking, okay, maybe he's just stretching, even though it's
still kind of like, all right, it's a little gross.
It's one thing to take your shoes off something like
actually walk around on that floor. He then proceeded to
(37:27):
walk into the bathroom, and that's where I was just
like started to start dry heaving. I mean, you need
to just burn those socks. Uh. I'm not gonna get
to the to the this part. Actually it was. It
was pretty messed up. But this is how bad. This
is how bad of a cheap skate this guy was.
(37:50):
So one gentleman happened to scheme up. He's got to
scheme to get an entire row for free on an airplane.
He buys the aisle sea and he buy buys the
window seat, thinking apparently that like planes aren't full now,
which first off, even before COVID, usually these airlines don't
(38:10):
take off unless it's a full flight. They're trying to
pack that thing every single seat to make sure they're
not losing any money. And so this guy, I don't
know if he couldn't get a ticket in first class
or what the story was with him, but he bought
at Higle and he bought a window seat, thinking that
no one's gonna sit in the middle seat. Woll of course,
(38:32):
a nice lady who happened to be a little bigger
sat in the middle seat, and so he then braids
her because she's encroaching a bit on his space and
he starts like saying all kinds of foul things to
her and then tries to bring it to the attention
of the flight attendants and and so initially they were
(38:53):
like trying to help him because like, Okay, maybe we
can find you another seat, but he was adamant about
were moving not him and why well because then they
later found out he had he bought the window seat
as well, and so he was trying to get hurt
to move. So he because he knew he was going
to have the entire road to himself. So then they
come to find out they're like, well, can she just
(39:15):
move over to the windows. He was like no, He's like,
I bought you know, I bought that seat. And then
he started to create this whole fuss. He called the
woman fat and that's when he got kicked off the
plane and he literally said he sent back our departure
forty minutes all because of some cheap skate. When did
you get the entire road to himself? I don't understand,
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Like Brady, why didn't you just let her take whatever
seat she wanted. Why did he have to braid her
like that? He was the worst part. He was a
Jets fan. He had on a Jet sweatshirt and I
was like, this is so appropriate for buddy. That's why
that is the full circle. Yeah, if the shoe fits.
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(40:20):
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be for Halloween, man, Uh nothing, yeah anything? Yeah, well listen,
I mean I would like to it, just want I
(01:26):
want to. I want to do it up and have
the costume and the pageantry and the party and the
celebration and all that. But we gotta be up so early,
and there's Monday night football on later on. You know,
I'm so committed to the craft, you know that I
don't want to let anything else to to holiday or not.
Some people would say, it's just it's just Halloween. It's
not like you're gonna get drunk off candy. So you
(01:47):
mean you could probably go out for a little bit
in trick or treat. Yeah, but I feel like it
would take my focus away from a Monday night football
game the Battle of Ohio, and I just feel like
I gotta, you know, as an Ohio guy, I feel
like I gotta be you know, locked and loaded, ready
to go to represent my people in Chillicothee. You know
what I mean. You where my dog came from. Though
(02:09):
A lot of dogs come from Chilicothee, Ohio. It was
just a big breeding ground for dogs. Yeah. By the way,
I never put two and two together until right this moment,
which is always your favorite thing that I do. I
never realized that my bull mast if came from Chilicothee, Ohio.
And later the Brown's mascot became a bull mast if.
(02:31):
So maybe somewhere along the bloodline, my dog has a
relative who actually was the idea behind the Brown's mascot change.
How about it? Huh talking about connection? Maybe you and
I don't know, it's a possibility. I'm just more thinking
about how as you drive through Chilicothee, Ohio, there's a
(02:52):
chance that you're just gonna see some dogs sucking up
a lot of bread there, you know there, Well, listen,
dogs give you the side like, hey man, what are
you looking at? Get a little frisky all right? So,
um so let's get to do this conversation to uh.
Looks great. No, it doesn't seem like there's any like
(03:14):
concussion issues or anything like that. He feels like he's
bounced back and he's played at a high level. And
they are damn fun to watch man. And yesterday was
a little bit closer than I think a lot of
people expected it to be. Especially in the first half.
Detroit was really competitive and then all of a sudden
Miami caught fire. But with Jalen Waddle and Tyree Hill
(03:35):
and Tuah and McDaniel running that offense, that that's one
of the more enjoyable teams to watch because they look
different than anybody else, because nobody on that team, as
far as I'm concerned, is over five eight. Like it
just start again. It feels like they're they're the Shetland Ponies. Yeah,
and there they're the Shetland Ponies that you always refer
(03:55):
to of the NFL. Looks there's a fast selling Ponies.
I mean, they have a four by one hundred meter
track team that could probably qualify for the Olympics at
this point. Actually, dude, I'm not lying either. I feel
whatever he Mostard and Tyreek Kill and Joe and Waddle
like their actual track stats like they probably could all
make a qualify. Um, it's just you said it best.
(04:18):
Just it has a different feel to it. Then I
think a lot of other offenses in the NFL. And
there's a couple of reasons. One is to his skill
set to a has such a good knack for you know,
feeling windows when they're opening, being able to shape a throw,
meaning being able to throw a ball with touch, Like
he doesn't have a Josh Allen arm, so it's not
(04:39):
gonna be a laser, but he can layer a throw
in there over a defender that drops two is intended
to receiver. And you you saw a couple of times
for some touchdown pass Becasicki in particular yesterday, but he
has this just this knact of kind of bounce in
the pockets, see in the field well, seeing the windows open.
And I think one of the better things he does
is keep his eyes down field. He's a guy who's
(05:00):
sustained a lot of hits this season, and even even
in doing that, he's come back and he's still remained
confident in his ability to keep his eyes downfield, not
be impacted by the rush and look for Tyreek Hill
and look for Jalen Waddle. But um, you know, that's
been one thing that's that stood out to me. I
just think the overall development with Mike McDaniel and the
(05:21):
confidence that Mike McDaniel has given two because you see
him playing with that and you see, you know, to
executing the scheme perfectly. It's got a stink for Brian
Flores not only to be watching how well Miami's playing
with Towah without him there, but then also to be
on a team that's struggling mightily in the Pittsburgh Steelers,
(05:42):
I mean, just has no hope in my opinion, for
going to the playoffs. The rest of the season. It's tough,
I mean, and we'll get to that. I mean, even
your rookie quarterbacks calling out people for not studying enough.
But there are fun team to watch, and I think
had he got not gotten knocked out for a couple
of games or what two or three games whatever ended
up being, and we we'd probably be looking at them
(06:02):
as one of the top teams in the a f
C because people tend to forget they beat the Bills,
that's who that well, that's where that loss came from.
So I just I'm happy to see him playing well,
doing well. I think it's also one, you know, one
of those things you'd say that to, you know, you
say to young quarterbacks out there, like if they get
enough time, eventually, with the right pieces, the right coach,
they can excel. All these guys can We talked about
(06:24):
Zack Wilson to start off the show. He can excel.
They're getting the right pieces around him. It's just now,
is is la Fleur the right coach for him as
a play caller? And and how much time are you
willing to wait for him to develop into the guy
where you drafted him number two overall? Like that's the
reality of the whole the whole situation. All these cats
can play well enough to go play professional football and
(06:46):
get paid. It's just about the situation and circumstances there
in Well. I mean, look, this is how fast things
change if you've just given an opportunity and somebody actually
believes in you and doesn't pull you from games when
you're trailing on the road as a rookie. Like we
thought we had it all figured out. When you go
back to that draft class, Burrow Herbert toa and everybody
was already anointing the Miami Dolphins as the biggest with
(07:10):
by passing up on Justin Herbert and taken to ah,
let's call this what it is. Too has had a
better year than Herbert by far. It's not even not
even close. And we're like what a few months removed
from everyone saying Justin Herbert is gonna be the name.
This is not so much a knock on Justin Herbert.
They're dealing with a lot of issues themselves, but just
call it what it is. Two has been better than
(07:31):
Herbert this year. He's been one of the best quarterbacks
in the a f C. If you if you just
look at the way he's played when he's been out there,
So it's it is funny. I mean, we all try
to look back in retrospect sale things look, but with
the way things are trending right now. Yeah, he doesn't
to it, doesn't have the skill set of Justin Herbert,
but he also has a skill set that that Herbert
doesn't have. You know, Herbert doesn't have the ability to
(07:52):
throw the ball with touch like toa does now. But
I look, I think people for who are Justin Herbert
fans would also said, well, he's gonna have Tyreek killing
Jalen Watt. Now he does have some studs of wide
receiver and Keenan Allen when he's healthy, and Mike Williams
and obviously even Eckler could play a role and all
that kind of like most are does in the passing game.
But you know, at this point, um, I would say
their teams are on two different trajectories at this point
(08:14):
to it kind of remember the draft class the Philip Rivers,
Eli Manning, Ben proms you you can argue, all right, well,
who is the best one of all time? You know,
are are all three hall of famers? Is it just
elone Ben? Because of the Super Bowls? Point being though,
all of those guys had great careers, all of them,
and they all were franchise quarterbacks. And so I kind
(08:35):
of look at this draft and I go, yeah, you
can argue armed talent to us, you know, not on
the same level as Burrow and Herbert here, and he
doesn't have the measurables and all that. But I think
we're gonna look back and go, these are all good quarterbacks,
Like this is a good quarterback draft class, and I
think they're gonna win a bunch of games for their teams,
and and and to your point, like, first off, all
(08:55):
three of those guys I think are Hall of famers.
And I think all you know, three of these guys
who would venture into that like I think, I mean Burrow,
you know, we'll see what he does to Night versus
Cleveland that the past defense has been pretty spotty this
year for the Browns, so he should be able to
put up some big numbers, even though Jamar Chase isn't there.
But he's the one to keep an eye on. I
think for m v P now, it's hard to think
(09:16):
that he could win it over Hurts or or Josh
Allen the way those two are playing, but the way
they throw the football with a town he has around him.
If they win the a f C North, they start
creeping back up into this thing. It would be interesting
to see if Burrow can make some waves there for
that m v P hunt. You want to hear Dan
Campbell postgame, the Allion's head coach. Interesting analogy here from
(09:38):
Dan Campbell, who I mean, God bless the Detroit Lions.
I mean, there was all this hope, all this optimism.
You got to call it alliance game earlier this year.
You sawn up close and personal that vaunted defense on
par with the eighty five Bears, and uh here was
here was Tan Campbell afterwards. My thought is that as
frustrating as it is, I know how close were are
(10:00):
because we are still talking about one play and Uh,
the hard thing is to just keep doing your job,
you know, and stand in the thick of the storm,
and uh the easy thing is to go down below
and get under the blanket and eat all the food
and whatever. It's the guys who are going to stay
on the deck and just continue to do their part
because they know the sun's coming, that's those are the
guys we're looking for. Who the hell eats food under
(10:22):
their blanket, you know what I mean? It feels a
little messy. Well, I think there's an analogy to like,
be on a boat, this this quest, this journey. I mean,
you know, just uh it yea, at some point it's
cold out there. The boat sometimes definitely does so. I
mean I'm like, I'm not saying that anybody's job is
(10:45):
in jeopardy or anything like that. I think I think
a lot of people look at it and go, well,
you know, Jared Goff was brought here. You know, he's
he started off the year playing really good football and
it's been kind of you know, up and down with
some poor performances since and he's turning the ball over.
But I do just feel like we keep hearing the
same things over and over again. We're close. We're almost there.
(11:05):
We're close. Where this and that they're the worst team
in the NFL, like they're gonna be picking number one
overall again. And it just seems like no matter who
is that the ever Detroit, this is just gonna be
what it's gonna be. Hold on, are they the worst team? Like?
I watched that team and I feel like they they're
a more competitive games than you could maybe say for
(11:26):
the Bears at times. I mean I don't. I mean,
I know at one point yesterday that Dallas game was
competitive by large ones. The Jacksonville Jaguars have fallen off.
That's like a team that's not very competitive anymore. All right,
Final four matchup? All right? This is this is a
fun final four matchup here, all right for the worst
team in the NFL. I actually think they should make
this happen, like like like throw this on you want
(11:48):
to get rid of the Pro Bowl, throw this this
battle on before the Super Bowl. Alright. So we're gonna
say the Lions are the one seed. They'll be playing
the four seed, the Jacksonville Jaguars, and then your two
three matchup is going to be Houston and Carolina. Who
you got which uh, which Houston is pretty bad right now.
(12:10):
That game yesterday, Here's what I hate is I have
to do picks for my work with CBS. And it
was before that we had learned Ryan Tannehill was out,
which ends up impacting obviously the game playing and has
nothing to do with Molik willis more to do with
the fact that if you're Mike Vrabel and you've got
a rookie quarterback at his first start, you're probably gonna
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rely heavily on Derrick Kenny and and and being that
they did rely heavily on Derrick Henry, I would have
changed my pick and been like, all right, maybe there's
laying the points here with the Tennessee Titans, because that
was a fishy line. Like I remember seeing that and going,
why are the Titans not a bigger favorite? And so
I went with the Texans, thinking all right, someone knows something.
But clearly that did not work out when, uh, when
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Malik Willis went in just tending off the ball to
Derrick Henry for the majority, that was my t g
G game of the week, you know, the Titans Texans game.
My t g G the thank God, what is your
g thank God for gambling Game of the week. Otherwise,
who the FS watch of that game? You gotta be
kidding me. But Malik Will said, what five yards? Why
don't you do the t G F G because t
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G G sounds better. It sounds like a fighter. Yeah,
I mean it sounds it sounds like a fighter from
eastern Europe. Yeah. Well, we're still you know, we're still
trying to tie that all together, trying to trying to
figure out whether or not we can get that Who's we?
Is that like you? And Lee? Is that like you?
Like when you talk to yourself in the mirror in
the mornings, like, who is that? Exactly? J K? Jonah
knocks enterprises? What do you mean? Yeah, we're just how
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many employees are part of j K? Listen, I'm not
I'm not here to discuss you know, there's tax implications
when you ask stuff like that. I'm not. I'm not
ready to discuss any of you know, there's an LLC.
Is that what they call it? You know? Yea, So
we're good here, but the the Houston Texans and Tennessee Titans.
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I mean, hey, man, I don't you know, should should
Bryan Tannehill will be worried about his job long term
or probably not after after what we saw yesterday. I
don't think so. I mean, look, it's not like he's
been able to excuse me, he hasn't been able to
light the world on fire, in part because turn away
A J. Brown. Right, by the way, there's one team
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that regrets a trade more is the Tennessee Titans right now, Yeah,
by the way. And A J. Brown wanted to stay.
He didn't want to be traded, and he's gotta be
looking around going damn, they kind of got out of there.
He's not that bad a spot, like they're they're gonna
win the a f C South Um. But you know,
then they he goes to Philly and they're just lighting
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in it on fire. I mean they're just setting setting
the NFL on fire. The Philadelphia goes by the way,
have you seen Philadelphia schedule the rest of the way? Okay, alright,
So so they're at Houston, all right, and I think
we can all you know, and that's a short week.
So they're gonna be at Houston this upcoming Thursday. But
then they've got the commanders at home, they're at Indianapolis,
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and then they've got the packers and the Titans. After that,
they've got the Giants and the Bears. Like I just
feel like they could they could get into the into
the area of could they actually do it. I'm not
saying they're going to go undefeated, but there's it's not
that daunting of a schedule the rest of the way.
I can't find more than maybe two losses on their schedule.
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And when you consider that Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts
were supposed to be the stop gap, you know, replacements
until they find, you know, their next long term head coach,
because Sirianni was one of the last guys hired. If
I'm not mistaken, I mean, we could be looking at
a fifteen and two season or even better than that
in year two of this which which is crazy to
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think about considering all the expectations coming in and they
got draft picks. Man, Philadelphia's rolling your guy, Nick Sirianni.
By the way, the pies on passion based on his
antics um on the sidelines of her Dallas was that
two weeks ago? Um over, Yeah, yeah, it was that.
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That feels like you're gonna it's gonna come back to
bite him in the ass at death. Well, I was
actually gonna say the opposite. It feels like that's exactly
what Philly wants out of their head coach. You know,
they want to make sure it's known. Although there was
a number of head coaches this weekend who um, yeah,
we're getting get a little payback, you know with some
of their talks and the sure if you're saw Lane Kiffin, yeah,
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nice win over Texas al himself. They can't help himself.
Uh Gimo Fish, you're that's not that's not going all
that Well, I saw you and Bruce Feldon we're talking
about it. And if if the buyout Actually this is
a good question for you, what would the buyout number
have to be? Because what is it at right now?
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Six millions? Like that? What would the buyout number have
to be for Texas A and M to feel comfortable
walking away from Jimbo Fisher If I had to guess,
If I had to guess, I would say, like thirty million.
I think they've got enough really rich people who could
come up with the money to pay him. But I
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mean it's hard because he the one thing he hasn't
solved is the quarterback spot there. Like when you go
back to Florida State when they won a national championship.
It had a lot to do the fact that you know,
you had Jamis Winston leading the way and he was
kind of that leader. That guy's gravitated towards He has
not been able to find that at Texas A and
(17:37):
m kelln mon was there, but he kind of, you know,
inherited that, and and Mond played well towards the end
they got They got a nice win in the Orange
Bowl his final year. But since then it's just been
like a revolving door. And now it looks like Carnor Wigman,
who was a freshman who played pretty well even despite
a loss, played pretty well this past week. Maybe he's
the guy. But you get guys smoking weed in the
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locker room before the game, it's not a good look.
It's so I think obviously they were. You know, at
some point, if they want to move on from him,
they'll look to fire him with cause, and that that's
where you know, then there'll be a settlement. Despicable, I agree,
Jim Bo. Let me tell you it's not despicable though
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Heart Radio. Oh yeah, I was waiting for this one
for a while. Good who sings this? By the way,
I don't know. I guess my hips moving though. Bobby Pickett?
Who is it? Bobby Pickett? Bobby? How how old is
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this song? Oh? God is this from like the sixties. Yea, yeah, yeah,
let's do it over on there. I'll let's present it
at nineteen. Okay, yeah, I'm gonna I think this is
Uh if you'd have said it like sixty two, I
still might have taken the under lee. What do we got?
Let's go live to our I know how old this
song is? Insider lead to laugh of the latest. Wow,
(19:52):
look at Brady Quinn Mr Music how bad? And uh,
I mean, isn't it you can got itself from the
sound the right exactly? Look at you, man, It's impressive.
My grandma listens to a lot of like fifties and
sixties whenever I go back and see her, so I
always feel like you have a decent tell for like
the music of that time. How it sounded. Oh yeah,
(20:14):
My my kid loves oldies. His favorite song is the
Platters only you literally watches it NonStop. Loves it. That's
pretty cool? Yeah pretty uh like I mean spending some
of the other crap they're coming out with today. My god,
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the F S R I R. I know Brady Quinn's
got a travel story for us. Oh my gosh, there's
two separate ones. But we need a little bit of
time to break this stuff down, so we will make
sure we get full time for that, all right. So
the Dallas Cowboys, Uh, they get it done yesterday. If
you were a fan of old school football, as in
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running the football and not a lot of run defense,
well this was the game for you. This is exactly
what you needed because both teams on the ground. Four
hundred forty yards rushing between those two teams, between the
Bears and the Cowboys Dallas, and uh, and away we
go with the Dallas Cowboys, and where's all the Cooper
(21:39):
Rush fans like, what happened to that crowd? To that
look the interception was not great before the end of
the first alf, but Dak looked great early on man,
like when they were mixing it up, and it's it's
over right that the Tony Pollard or Zeke Elliott, it's like,
we're done with it, right, the best running back on
that team every and outside of Jerry Jones. I mean,
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just with the way he talks about Zeke and you know,
the physical nature that he brings to the game, and
he'll talk about all that and he's a punishing play
I mean, I get it. But Tony Pollard just has
that burst and that's what right now, you know, is
what really wins in the NFL. I mean, with the
exception of someone I guess like Derrick Henry who's just
so massive and so big no one wants to tackle him.
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I mean he was he was running off like ten
yard clips like every single time he was touching the ball.
But that's he's a unicorn. You don't find running backs
to look like him anymore. So in my opinion, yeah,
Tony Pollard gives them more pop, more big playability. He's
he's just got fresh legs, a little younger, and less
wear and tear. I think that plays a role too.
But this, this game, to me, signifies what we're seeing
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in the NFL. But but the problem is the Chicago
Bears were part of it. So people people will will
will try to disagree with the statement. Defenses now are
just they're more concerned about stopping big players in the
passing game and stopping the passing game more so in
general than allowing teams to run the football. Like that's
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just where we're at right now. If you look at
the type of coverages that we're playing, they're getting more zone,
more softer zones, a lot more cover to cover three,
cover four, but even some of the split safety looks
with cover to cover four some people call a quarter
quarter half cover six. I've been in enough systems, played
for enough teams. We call it a bunch of things.
But you're seeing it more and more, and the reason
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behind it is that's what they feel like this game
is it's just all about big plays, passing game, relying
on their quarterbacks and ride receivers to generate a bunch
of offense or pass catchers for that matter. Don't want
exclude the tight ends and running backs, but that that's
how defenses have have had to adjust. Last year, scoring
was down. It's one of the reasons why the NFL
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officials started to emphasize illegal contact because they thought twofold
one some defenders were getting away with it down the field.
But too they know if they're actually harder on illegal contact,
defensive holding, take a closer look at defensive past interference,
that's also gonna generate more scoring and that's what the
game really wants. And scoring was down, I want to
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say through the first at least four or five weeks
this season. So to me, I think you're saying it's
it's really more of what defense are doing to adjust
to how offenses have really had these high powered offenses,
whether it's Kansas City or even you know, Josh Allen
the Bills, and they're trying to sit back and say, look,
if you want to try to take a shot down field,
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go ahead and do it, but there's gonna be a
defender there or maybe two, and we're not gonna just
let you have these free runs where one of our
guys gets beaten man to man or we've got them
out there on an island in a single high zone coverage,
like they're just not gonna let you do that anymore.
So I think you're gonna see more and more teams
have to revert and get back to running the football
because of how defenses have had to adjust over the
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course of the past few years. By the way, you
and I a couple of weeks ago, got a little
bit of pushback, got our balls broken because we've tried
to speak positively about the progress that Justin Fields has made.
I'm telling you, man, there's something there. He's getting He's
getting better, he looks better, he looks more comfortable. And
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I would say this that Bears fans today are more
optimistic after a twenty point loss than they have been
after some wins over the past couple of years, based
on what you saw, because look, I mean it's a rebuild.
Ryan Poles came in. He identified there's a lot of
money tied up in the defensive line. Khalil Max gone,
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a Keem Hicks has gone. They moved on from a
lot of guys, so you're gonna have to wear it
and their inability to stop the run, which by the way,
makes last last week's and you pointed this out the
game plan for the Patriots against the Bears, after you
saw what the Dallas Cowboys did running for seven yards
to carry against him. The fact that the Patriots didn't
try and exploit that is toggling. I don't I don't
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get it, But justin fields, it feels like this is
headed in a direction where you've got to be really
happy if you're a Bear fan or remember that organization,
knowing all the salary cap space you're gonna have coming up,
you're actually gonna have a full set of draft picks.
It feels like there's there's some optimism there and it's
heading in the right direction. In that regard, there should
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be Look, you don't do what he did at the
college football level and not have the talent and ability.
It's just now transition to the NFL, where he went
from having probably the most if not top three, most
talented teams of a hundred and thirty one teams at
FBS when he was in college. I mean, he initially
started at Georgia, which is probably still part of that
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top three top four conversation, and then went to Ohio State,
which is definitely part of that top three Top four conversation,
and he's now with the Bearess team that I think
if you looked at their roster as a whole in
particular though on offense, you would come away and say
it might be the worst like he and and look,
I'm not trying to disrespect any professional football players, but
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to your point, you know they moved on from Alan Robinson,
Darnell Mooney ends up coming in now kind of being
their lead receiver. It's tough for Mooney, who's early on
in his career, to become that. And I think it's
tough for Justin Fields to be able to feel like
anyone can really separate outside of Darnell Mooney. I mean,
maybe you feel like cold comet. Can you know that
can be tough to do as a tight end though,
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especially if you're not able to run the football consistently.
I mean, and they do try to run the football,
but you do have some issues on your offensive line.
So it's like there's a lot of moving parts to
why the Bears are where they are from the record standpoint. Offensively,
I mean, Luke GETSI calling plays like that plays a
role in all this too. If you can't see some
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of the plays and some of his ability. I mean,
I mean, I'm sorry, I can't help you then, because
I think I think he's got a higher upside than
some of these other quarterbacks that we're talking about, you know,
going into their second and third year. He just does
his ability to run, his arm strength, his ability to
create some plays. He's just probably on one of the least,
if not the least talented offense in the NFL, and
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so it's it's not going to be pretty for a while.
And so they start giving him some more help. I mean,
look at the draft class he came in with. Like
if you if you go back now and you look
at Trevor Lawrence, which I don't know that feels like
something's not right there. You look at Zach Wilson we
talked about, You look at Mac Jones, you look at
Justin Fields. I kind of I come away from that
and I go, I feel better about where Fields is
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headed over all of those guys based on what we've
seen in the past couple of weeks. And yeah, he
didn't touch Michael Parsons when Parsons went down and returned
that fumble, and he admitted afterwards that he needed to
make that play. But I just I just think that
all this conversation and you were one of the ones
when when the draft took place, she said, Bear fans
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are gonna love this guy. They're gonna love his work ethic,
They're gonna love everything he stands for, and he's accountable.
He's not throwing anybody under the bus. Is just gonna say,
has he complained once? I mean, has he questioned anything once?
And he all he does is go out there and
get his butt kicked at times, and he keeps getting
up and he keeps playing, and he keeps trying to
get back into games. There's something to be said for that. Yeah,
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it is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. By the well, if Bear fans
are ridiculous, I mean, what do you want. Of course
they're gonna talk crap about the fans from time to time.
What was that again, Like he said, uh, they shouldn't
be booing or something like that, or first off, that
kind of got it was a response to a question
where he was saying, like no one out here like
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feels worse or where something. Yeah, and and that got
a little taken out of context, which like my whole
thing would be I would say this generally, there was
never something someone said to me that that was booing me.
That was whether it was a fan of our team
because we weren't performing well, or or an opponent. There
was never something that someone said to me that was
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worse than what was in my head when things weren't
going well, Like how how tough I would be on myself.
And there's a lot of other players that are like that,
And so that was more I think what he was
trying to elaborate on or explain, and it just probably
wasn't delivered the right way. But Roberto definitely trying to
uh or lead back there. That's that's how good. I mean,
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that's just because Roberto has had a bad movie. Well, look,
we're gonna get to that later. We don't have time
right now, but we will get to that later. We're
gonna Berto vent a little bit here with Berto, just
so you know, I was on a losing end with
you on that. I'll tell I'll explain exactly what the
the pick was, but trust me, I was also very
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Eddie Garcia? You really you really want to go into that?
I didn't read an interesting article yesterday about that very
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don't know if anyone else heard them, but usually I
usually don't hear those, so when I hear them, it's uh,
I told you that's okay, thank you, and he's not
wrong checking Sunday's actually wee gate in the NFL on
Sunday night, it was the Bills of the Packers seven
to seventeen. Buffalo six and one, leading the a f
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C East. Dear leaders in the NFC East is the Eagles,
and they beat the Steelers in Philadelphia, perfect seven and
on the season. Jalen Hurts four touchdown passes, three to
wide receiver A. J. Brown forty Niners over the Rams fourteen.
New San Francisco running back Christian McAffrey three touchdowns, one rushing,
one receiving and one passing, Eleventh player all time to
do that in the same game. Defending champion Rams are
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now three and four. Cowboys all over the Bears fore
Dallas at six and two. Dak Prescott three touchdowns, two passing,
one rushing to Tony Pollard three rushing scores as well.
Seahawks over the Giants twenty seven to thirteen. Seattle on
top of the NFC West with a five and three record,
Giants dropped to six and two. That was the only matchup,
by the way in Week eight of two teams with
a winning record against each other. When the Vikings over
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the Cardinals twenty six, Minnesota six and one, leading the
NFC North, the Falcons beat the Panthers thirty seven thirty
four and overtime. A tough game for Carolina kicker Eddie Pinero.
He missed a forty eight yard extra point that would
won the game in the final seconds because there was
an unsports bullet call after the touchdown. Then he missed
a thirty three yard fuldical that would have wanted in overtime.
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Atlanta gets the win four and four. There On top
of the NFC South, Dolphins beat the Lions thirty one
to twenty seven. It was the Commanders edging the Colts
seventeen to sixteen. Washington four and four on the season
now and they're the only team not above five hundred
in the NFC East right now. The Titans beat the
Texans seventeen to ten. Tennessee's at five and two. On
top of the AMC South, Derrick Henry two ordered nineteen
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yards rushing. He was his sixth career two hundred yard
plus rushing performance, tied most all the time with O. J.
Simpson and Adrian Peterson. Patriots over the Jets twenty two
to seventeen. Bill Belichick moves past George Hollis becomes the
second all time winning is coach in NFL history. Saint
shut out the Raiders twenty four to nothing, first shutout
lost for the Raiders since and early in London it
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Brady Quinn taken away, Mr travel. Let's call this the
(36:21):
airing of grievances from my travels. All right, I got
a lot of problems with you people out there, Okay,
a lot of problems. Let me start off by saying this,
and this is the This is the one that wasn't
quite as egregious at least I don't think so. Do
you guys take your shoes off on planes? Uh? No,
not well, sometimes depends the flight is Roberto, No lee
(36:44):
I have, but I cover it with a blankett, like
if if they give you a blake, I'll cover my feet, okay,
Eddie and anything for us. Yeah. I think I have
taken my shoes off before, which, look, there's nothing wrong
with taking them off. Where I found this to be
extremely gross and wrong is when you get up and
you walk to the bathroom of the plane, which is
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just littered with urine and whatever else is on the
floor that hasn't been cleaned. I watched a guy in
the row in front of me get up, and I
happened to notice he was in his socks, and so
I'm thinking, okay, maybe he's just stretching, even though it's
still kind of like, all right, it's a little gross.
It's one thing to take your shoes off something like
actually walk around on that floor. He then proceeded to
(37:27):
walk into the bathroom, and that's where I was just
like started to start dry heaving. I mean, you need
to just burn those socks. Uh. I'm not gonna get
to the to the this part. Actually it was. It
was pretty messed up. But this is how bad. This
is how bad of a cheap skate this guy was.
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So one gentleman happened to scheme up. He's got to
scheme to get an entire row for free on an airplane.
He buys the aisle sea and he buy buys the
window seat, thinking apparently that like planes aren't full now,
which first off, even before COVID, usually these airlines don't
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take off unless it's a full flight. They're trying to
pack that thing every single seat to make sure they're
not losing any money. And so this guy, I don't
know if he couldn't get a ticket in first class
or what the story was with him, but he bought
at Higle and he bought a window seat, thinking that
no one's gonna sit in the middle seat. Woll of course,
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a nice lady who happened to be a little bigger
sat in the middle seat, and so he then braids
her because she's encroaching a bit on his space and
he starts like saying all kinds of foul things to
her and then tries to bring it to the attention
of the flight attendants and and so initially they were
(38:53):
like trying to help him because like, Okay, maybe we
can find you another seat, but he was adamant about
were moving not him and why well because then they
later found out he had he bought the window seat
as well, and so he was trying to get hurt
to move. So he because he knew he was going
to have the entire road to himself. So then they
come to find out they're like, well, can she just
(39:15):
move over to the windows. He was like no, He's like,
I bought you know, I bought that seat. And then
he started to create this whole fuss. He called the
woman fat and that's when he got kicked off the
plane and he literally said he sent back our departure
forty minutes all because of some cheap skate. When did
you get the entire road to himself? I don't understand,
(39:36):
Like Brady, why didn't you just let her take whatever
seat she wanted. Why did he have to braid her
like that? He was the worst part. He was a
Jets fan. He had on a Jet sweatshirt and I
was like, this is so appropriate for buddy. That's why
that is the full circle. Yeah, if the shoe fits.
(39:58):
By the way, Eddie Garcia, do you have an F
S R I R for us? Well, I don't want
to sound all bougie or anything, but I have an
eight inch TV. Yeah you do? Yeah, And uh I
was watching football and it just went it just went black,
just completely, just no. I could still hear it, but
(40:20):
it's like done. I don't need radio. I needed so
I brought in the forty TV from downstairs and I
put it next to the big one, and no one
was satisfied. The wife wasn't satisfied either with j Eddie
Eddie Eddy, Story of my Life. Man. Listen, I I
hear you. I know how that feels awful. Fox Sports
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