November 8, 2022 • 37 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar react to Jim Irsay firing Frank Reich and naming Jeff Saturday the interim head coach. Packers are hammered by injuries but Aaron Rodgers seems apathetic about it all and controversy ensues on the Prop Bet Monster recap of Monday Night Football.
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we've got a couple of stories in the NFL we've
been discussing. There was a heist, a bank heist in
the NFL last night. It was called the Baltimore Ravens
minus a point and a half at New Orleans. The
Saints stink, Andy Dalton struggles in prime time. They were
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handing out money, handing out money at sports books across
the country last night with Baltimore minus one and a
half doesn't make any sense. Retroactively doesn't make any sense
whatsoever based on what was there? Isn't that always what
will say? Retroactively didn't make any sets. Of course, the
first time we've said it on this show here, right,
you know which side were you on? Weren't you taking
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that point a half in the stands? No? I loved
I loved Baltimore. Who did did somebody take that to
a kid? I thought the Sants are gonna took Baltimore.
It took Baltimore. We go back and check Gonda swarm.
Do you have the results? That was that one of
our pixley, one of our spread wasn't under part of Yeah,
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we got those coming up. The over under is different
which hit the under? So yeah, no, we did not
talk spread. Well, if we would have, I would have
taken Baltimore. I would have take I would have taken
the Saints. Would have been wrong, Yeah, Andy Dalton h
And I think the Ravens were playing well enough to
think that they would play the way they played last night.
I was just surprised. I mean, Lamar put that team
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on his back like he like he usually does. But
that's a tough, tough environment to play. I don't think
people realize, like when you go look at the different domes,
that's probably number one, right, I'm trying to think of
what would be a tougher environment in regards to a
dome than New Orleans. Is it the dome or is
it what's happening outside the dome? Well, what's happening outside
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the dome transfirst into the dome. It's a hostile environment
to play in. It's a tough environment to play in.
So they pre game and then they walk into the
dome and just going, yeah, that te stadium was hard
to play in. Yeah, but it's not a dome anymore.
What would that be considered? Uh multi purpose? Yeah, well
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Texas Stadium was the University of Texas. No, no, like
Dallas was the Dallas Texas but they had they had
an opening in the top. And the story was I
think Jerry Jones said it was so God could watch
because they were America's team. That was his big the
big claim. I think it was. Jerry Jones just said
that if it wasn't, we'll clean that up in the podcast.
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Don't make it seems like we it right, We'll cut
it after the show. Yeah, I just said, so God
could watch watch watch America's team play. Yea, all right,
but look I understand, I know the Steelers probably have
a claim to that. Growing up, that was, you know,
a big, big issue. I was still talking about the
Ravens in the Saints game. Yeah. I didn't even want
to get off of you know, I just I was
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just thinking about hard places to play and that were domed.
You know, what about Minnesota? Minnesota tough place to play.
I mean just yeah, I mean anytime you hear that
horn and stuff like that. I played there once. I
played there as a college guy too. It was it
was hard in college. That was hard in college. But
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I definitely think that it was kind of it was
very difficult to play against New Orleans. I don't know, Yeah,
it was just it was kind of dark. Because I
don't know, what are you trying to say, like it's
kind of dark? Let that pass. It would take you
to come up with that. I didn't say you said it.
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I did say it thanking about the lighting. Okay, yeah,
I'm not not not. The jerseys they were were okay,
outfits or people in them. Um. By the way, we
do have a let's go live to leave. I just
got that. By the way, let's go Speaking of which,
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let's go live to leave the lap. Who's got an
update on the quote from Jerry Jones talking about the
roof over Dallas Stadium very very close. Um, Texas Stadium
has a hole in its roof so God could watch.
And you've got to get this last part right. His
favorite team play. Okay, see yea, I wasn't that far off.
I knew that was happening. Um, thank you, j You're
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not going ahead the button on, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry.
We appreciate it all right. So from from one owner
Jerry Jones, to another one Jim Mercy, who also this
is the other story in the NFL making the round.
Jeff Saturday's knew, the now head coach for the Indianapolis
coach after they fire Frank Reich. And um, well, Jim Mercy,
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we heard the best of early on in the show,
him talking about the reason behind his h his hiring
of Jeff Saturday and just sort of his summary of
where he's been and what he's done in the NFL.
But he was specifically talking about the inexperience of Jeff Saturday.
Jim Mercy explaining why he likes the inexperience from his
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now new head coach. I'm glad he doesn't have in
NFL experience. I'm glad he hasn't learned the fear that's
in this league. That's because it's tough for our coaches.
They're afraid, they go to analytics and it gets difficult.
I mean, he doesn't have all that. He doesn't have
that that fear and there was no other candidate. We
were fortunate that he was available. Oh wow, first offs,
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Well yeah, aren't you just taking shots of like on
your own staff. Let's take a bet a lot of them.
What a dumpster fire man? It gets better and better. Man, say,
we're not building rockets to Mars nuclear scientists. I don't
think a nuclear scientist is building rockets to Mars anyway.
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So I don't know how the saugect. I don't know
even what's in the sausage. That's it's sausage. That's what's
in the sausage there. Yeah, So all NFL coaches and
Canada when you know it, Oh yeah, that use analytics
when you know it. That's right, you know it when
you see it, use analytics. I did, like, is there
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a reason why they kept pushing back that press conference?
It was supposed originally be like what seven? Yeah? Eight? Well,
they tried to let him sober up as much as
they possibly could. That was as far and that was
as close as they could get. That is happy singing,
happy hour and sing happy six or seven. Nowadays, it
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can't happy hour can go all the way up till
like eight nine o'clock. In most places, it doesn't end
it like six or seven. When I was at Applebee's,
I came up in that bad boy at nine. It
was still a happy hour. Listen, every every every hour
has had. I took full advantage sticks City Long Island,
Sticks Sticks, City Long Island. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, alright,
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for a while, what did they do? A quarterback Matt
Ryan going to go back to be the starter? Or
Ryan might be calling the place? He might he might
be a million dollars. Oh see at this point, who's
called the place? The whole thing is so bizarre, man, Seriously,
just Saturday, might put Matt Ryan back in and tell him,
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don't make me look bad? Did he use five hundred
this year despite how bad the team had been the
offensive line of everything, Like, give him at least a shot.
And it's it's nothing against Sam Ellinger, But if they
keep Ellinger in, this is disdirective. Is coming from Jimmer say,
and he wants them to be bad enough to have
potentially the number one overall pick because he knows how
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powerful that is. And and look, I'll just say this,
if you took out I don't I don't know how
you do this, But if you could watch Bryce Young
play and not factor into his size, you'd say he's
as good of a prospect as we've ever seen. Like,
that's how good this young man is. The problem is
he's small, and you look at two and the concerns
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with him, even though he's got a longer injury history.
People think that's gonna be the case with with with
Bryce young at least they're concerned about that playing the
seventeen game schedule in the NFL. But if I was
a team and I'm watching the tape on him, I'm
coming away going I know day one he'll be able
to come in and he'll be able to be our quarterback.
He's just that good as a player. It's just he's
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tiny and and that, unfortunately, I think, is what's gonna
hold teams back. But if you look at that quarterback
draft class, there's enough guys to make teams excited about
one of the four or five guys they're looking at
the in the first round. By the way, he did say,
Jim Mercy said that Chris Ballard the GM he expects
him to be back in Yeah, Well, doesn't he have
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to say over that? Yeah. It's also when you're this impulsive,
like when you when you go from we're making a
change at quarterback, which I don't think that Frank Reich
wanted to do, but I think Jim Mercy was behind it,
and then you get rid of the offensive coordinator a
week later, and then you fire your head coach a
week after that. I don't know if anybody on that
staff should be a safe when it comes to their job.
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But Chris Ballard the GM, he did talk about just
the issues they've had, most specifically to your point, Brady,
at offensive line, here was the now right now as
in the moment Colts GM extensively, I would tell you
we're playing pretty good football. Um. Offensively is where we
gotta we gotta make some hay. Um. We've not played
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as well up front as we need to play. And
I think you all know my as y'all have been
kicking out of me for years for not drafting Whitehouse,
and all of a sudden, now look up and you
know we're under performing on the offensive line right now. Um,
and that's gotta that's gotta take another that's got to improve.
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So you're not taking receivers, but you don't you're not
taking offensive lineman either, So are you trying to say
that it's all gone to your defense. I didn't under
I didn't they have taken a Quentin Nelson they have. Yeah,
that's the problems. They have taken offensive lineman or not.
That group is not even panning out. So I think
that more of his point was, like, our strategy is
not working. Do you think Jeff satur or two questions,
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do you think Jeff Saturday was the first phone call?
And be do you think part of the reason behind
this was if we could at least fix our offensive
line at least we're heading in the right direction. And
Kevin the offensive lineman because the Hall of Famer, he's
an assistant a lineman. Yet, I mean, do you think
they hired Jeff Saturday so that he could help them
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figure out how to fix the old line in draft alignment?
If I was an assistant on that staff, I'd be
so piste off. Like none none of us could do that.
We've been here all year, all through training camp. None
of us could do the job, like like not, not
one of us could step up for the final eight
games and do the job. We've gotta bring in some
guy for me. Curious, peculiar, It's weird direction he would
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go in. It's a little curious. You know, it's your guy.
I'm not mad at him. You make your decision, you
live that I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying I'm
not mad at him. I'll put it this way. I mean,
there's no other owner you'd look at and yeah, there's
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a shot. My phone's gonna ring and he's gonna say, hey,
I heard John Radio LaVar. I mean, I don't know.
I mean, what other owner could you say that would
be in the reub of possibility? Jim. Jim might be
the only owner you can say, just gaming to you,
Bucky Larson, Mark Davis. He's probably not listening right now.
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But I'm just saying he came and took John Gruten
and Mike Mayock. Yeah, but yeah, I'm just saying Mercy
just is a wild card. I mean, yeah, I like it.
I mean, I think they're both wild cards. But I
hope he wins, honestly for for a fast entertainment and conversation,
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because everybody expects it to fail, right, so it's not
it's not a surprise if it doesn't work. But if
it does work, that'd be pretty interesting. I just gotta
be honest. Indianapolis is three five and one, They've got
eight games left. What would what would give? Okay, so
what so he's got to win six or seven to
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keep the job moving forward if he wants it. What
would he need to do for Jim Mercy to say
he's if he wants to keep the job, he's gotta
he's gotta win this weekend. Why don't you whyn't you
have a little more respects for Josh McDaniels and what
they're building there. Here's the only problem about what Burno
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just said. Um, that line opened Las Vegas giving a
point half. It's now up to six. I still think
I might lay the points. By the way, it's six
and a half. I think it went up a half
point in the last four minutes. What depends on the book?
And I don't you always I'm not sure what. I'm
looking at every book, every book I got at all
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I'm looking just not happen at sings. Well, I'm looking
at I'm looking at others. Bet mgm, no, that's not right.
I'm looking at a point. Bet, I'm looking at DraftKings. Look,
I'm all right here, LaVar my line draft Kings six
and a half us. You use draft kicks, that's what
you typically. I am looking at all the books, LaVar.
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You you're a witness to this. I'm looking at all
the books. I got it all here. I've got connections. Man, Listen,
you know what I'm doing. Hey, if they lose this
weekend to the Colts, tank, baby tank, take time. I
hope they lose by the way last ye want out? Nah? Right? Young?
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You don't want nobody from Ohio State? That could be
the kiss of death. Yeah, okay, I could dig it.
What do you mean justin fields starting to play? Well?
Come on now, all right laugh. They fired John McDaniels.
If you lose this to this terrible colds, okay, and
fire him too? Is that a fireble offense? I mean
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I don't honestly, it might be. Yeah, yeah, yes, you
lose to franchise that has a coach with no experience. Well,
who's who's the de coordinator for the Raiders? Now? Why
am I? He's terrible? Yeah? Patrick Graham's funny because he
interviewed for a lot of head coaching jobs. So there.
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I don't think Josh McDaniels will get clipped. But Patrick
Graham will probably be clipped if they give up, Like
if Sam l Ainger starts and they put up like
points and beat the Raiders in Las Vegas points a
game minimum. I mean, listen, it's a new NFL. I mean, like,
you know, that could win you a lot of games.
You have the offense. I mean, they're only giving up
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twenty points a game. With all the additions on offense,
they should still be winning a lot of games. And
they're not. So you got problems vert they're always winning.
They just don't want to win. Yeah, they do have leads.
Having leads, they'd be ready to win the game then
they don't. Imagine josh Vick Daniels talking to a Bucky Larson.
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He pulls him into a meeting and he says, what
do you mean we had to lead at one point?
What are you complaining about? Just wasn't at the end
of the game. All right, you know that's not even
the noise he makes. It's just what I hear in
my head when yeah, alright, there's that. Tell Brady that
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Packer season UH continues to get worse and worse. Rashaun
Gary is now out for the year. He's got a
torn a c l UH. They've also got injuries. Eric Stokes,
they're starting quarterback. He got banged up. UH, Romeo Dobbs
he got hurt. Aaron Jones was banged up, although it
looks like he's going to be back dealing I think
with an ankle injury. They were saying, Uh, not great
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in all the way around for the green Bay Packers,
but at least you know they don't have to see
their X. Oh that's right. They got Dallas this weekend.
So Mike McCarthy returns with a team that looks much
more healthy than the Green Bay Packers do, and it
just feels like we are heading towards an awful season.
For the remainder of this stretch for the Packers is
Aaron Rodgers and that team continue to struggle. So the
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Cowboys are giving five points to the Packers at home
in Lambeau. That's just it's crazy to me, Like, I
immediately think, take the points, take the Packers. There's no chance.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers is good against the spread as
underdog in general, but at home first at Lambeau, like
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no brainer. And then I look at how these two
teams match up, and the Packers defensive weakness is stopping
the run. Cowboys can run the football, and that Dallas
Cowboys defensive front can get after Aaron Rodgers, and they've
got a good enough coverage players to cover down whoever's
left on the outside. And so the Cowboys defense can
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shut down the Packers offense, which which doesn't take much,
by the way, based on how it's looked like, when
you really dive into it, you kind of go huh,
Like Dallas could blow them out. The way these two
teams stack up first one another, it's just crazy to
see where this is gone. Man. Yeah, I wouldn't be
surprised if they blow him out. And in years past
I would have been like, this is the type of
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game that Aaron Rodgers thrives, and he comes in and
he'll win. I just don't see that this year. I
don't really see there being any real bright spots for
green Bay right now. There's nothing I can lean on
and say there's an it factor outside of it. You know,
I love going out outside of statistics and stuff like
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that and probabilities based off of you know, those types
of deals. I don't have it. I don't have it
to offer. I don't have it to give for for
this this current scenario. It was interesting. One of the
things I think maybe you said at Q, maybe you
said that Jonas, I'm not sure, but you know, you
guys said that, you know, we're gonna have to see
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the floor coach. He's gonna have to coach this year
by and this is if this is him coaching. If
this is their coaching staff coaching and they have to
coach because of what they have currently, then I don't
know what that says about, you know, this coach and
this coaching staff. But but going into this game, there's
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nothing that gives me any reason to sit there and
say that Dallas won't dominate Green Bay in this game. Yeah,
what's the bright spot for the Packers? To your point,
the season, every game they played the seasons. You know,
I had a conversation yesterday, and I hate to keep
bringing this back back up. What was ayahuasca? Is that?
What it wasn't. I was having a conversation with someone yesterday.
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You mentioned the same exact thing that you said, Jonas,
and they said, look, when you do that kind of stuff,
you just don't come back the same And and and
it looks he doesn't look the same like he's looked
I said earlier in the season. He looks apathetic. And
and now it's like almost like a degree of frustration
because he's not getting the results he's accustomed to. But
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when you're taking that kind of stuff, man, and it
alters your brain and your how you think and how
you react and how like a sense of urgency and
just all of it. You've got to think that that
had to have played a factor. I don't know what else.
The disconnect is. This is a huge departure like this
past week when you saw him throwing you know, red
zone or near a goal line like interceptions. I mean,
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Aaron Rodgers barely throws interceptions in general, let alone in
that portion of the field. And you're looking at going
like what else can you point to that he wasn't
around the off seasons, Okay, but there's other offseasons he
wasn't around, Okay. Davanta Adams isn't there anymore? Yeah, but
he's dealt with the transition from Greg Jennings to Jordy Nelson.
Jordy Nelson, Davanti Adams. I mean you could go through
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the years of times he's had to transition two different
wide receivers. He's throwing too, So so what do you
point to. I kind of look and go like, maybe
that is it? Like like maybe that is you know,
what's impacting how he's seeing the field and playing and
and how he feels about the game of football. Because
the thought is when you go to that place, or
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you take that trip as they call it, that it
puts things into perspective to where you no longer sweat
small things. You know, you no longer are worried about,
because it takes you into a place to where now
you're thinking big picture and you're looking at things deeper
than you've ever looked at him before, and you get
a little bit more clarity. And it's almost like even
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when he throws those interceptions, like they're showing him cursing
on the sideline, like it almost looks like it's forced,
but he's not really that bummed out about it. You know,
he's a little bit annoyed, but it's not really. It's
just the the P and V isn't there like it
was in other years to where he'd be really agitated
and really upset. Yes, yeah, the little P and B.
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Thank you. That's a good point, Laura, very Uh, there's
a fair point. Um, let me ask you this. Did
the Packers have the worst offense in their division? I mean,
statistics speaking right now, I don't know if it makes
sense for the entire year. The Bears they're pretty bad
spelled for a while. They're the lowest. They're the lowest
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scoring offense in their division. Think about that, behind the
Lions the Bears, who are number one, aren't they as
far as the offense? Uh, Detroit is. No, they're near
their top half of the league. But yeah, they're they're
last in the division and scoring. Like if Aaron Rodgers,
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like you suppose you have the best quarterback in the division. Hey,
can you guys imagine Aaron Rodger playing Aaron Rodgers playing
his hand the way that he did last year talking
all that s he talked last year, you don't come
to Green Bay for anything else other than Aaron Rodgers,
all that stuff. He said, I don't know if I'm
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coming back this done, the other all the things he
aired out coming into the season last year. Could you
imagine if they were having the type of season they're
having right now? Yeah, Like, how would that have ended?
So so so now how how is this going to end? That?
So now the next question is how does this end?
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How does this end? Because if you have any time
and the vulnerability of the armor of that of Aaron
Rodgers it is now, it is now, you could justify
whatever it is that they would want to do front office,
you could justify it now. And now he's got to
see Mike McCarthy, the coach that apparently was just what
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didn't have it anymore and was what he got his
money though out ate it and he was, you know,
getting massages and taking naps in the office, and they
basically clowned Mike McCarthy on his way out the door,
and they lose that game to Arizona at home, and
then he gets fired in season they clowned Mike McCarthy
is about to come in there, and he's coming for
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that ass he want. Mike McCarthy's coming in. Speaking of
P and B, he's full of all of it, ready
to come in. He's hurt. All the conversations about I
was the problem, Aaron Rodgers. You know, I was being
held back because of Mike McCarthy. And now he's got
to come in there with a with a fully healthy team.
Good for him. He's gonna put a massage tap on
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the fifth yard after they get oh yeah, a selfie here, Aaron,
go look another toad and to have fun. Said, that's
how you're supposed to do it. Hey, I'll take Dallas
minus the five and a half or whatever it is.
I'll go, well the sime if you want to draft
Kings as at a five. But I mean I can.
I can find the other odds. I've got them all
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up for you here in case you're wondering. You know,
just I've got everything you need. That's what I do here.
So if you're just wondering, uh, yeah, we got five
five and a half in some places. Yeah. So I'll
go ahead and throw something out there off topic, totally
off topic, and then we can go back to to
where we were at. You don't have to post I voted, like,
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thank Christ, thank you honestly, like I gotta get this
off my chest really quickly, thank you. I gotta tell
you can you do the p S A first? Like people,
today is a day you can go vote Today you can't.
You can't vote. There you go that that, go vote,
please vote, vote, okay, like let your let your voice
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be heard that way. You don't have and and you
know what, if you don't want to, that's your choice
as well. That's that's you know what, here's the premise
of my public service announcement. That's your business. It's just
like COVID, right the people that I had two problems,
I'm vaccinated. Like, listen, we don't have to make everything
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a social media experiment or declaration. We don't. Like I
just got my thirteen booster yesterday. Right, go go vote,
don't vote, Go get your thirteen booster. Don't get your booster.
I give zero fs about if you voted or not.
Now that's just me. But I'm just I'm just saying
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if you voted, then that's good. It's it's like I
was a good parent today. Like you don't have to
post a sticker that says I was a good parent today.
I didn't anybody today. I didn't I didn't shoot anyone today.
I didn't rob a store today. You know what, I'm
breathing air today, Like, you don't have to post I voted, people,
(28:53):
all right? I just thought I got over the people
who were the sticker to that. That's what I'm saying.
Like people love posting their stickers of I've like, do
you understand how remedial that is? Do you understand how
how childish it is to post a sticker showing that, Like,
what is your intention by posting your sticker of I voted.
(29:16):
It's equivalent to getting a lollipop after you go to
the doctor when you're a kid. Or it's the equivalent
of I was the best student in class today and
so I got a sticker Like like, okay, go vote.
That's great, But like, why are you making that the
whole premise of of of your your media post Like
(29:37):
I think it's it's I don't. I think it's silly.
It's people the post workout videos to workout pictures. I
do work out pictures when I did work You just go,
I'll take my shirt off, clanging and banging and just
leave it, leave the phone in the car. I agree
with you, but I'm just saying that might be a
(29:57):
little bit different than I voted. Man. Plus, it's hard
workout video, no a post a post pump video. Yeah,
but it's still a little different. Still a little different
A sticker of voting it than you. Not not that
(30:18):
I'm better than you. However, I do feel like I
voted sticker can go along that that down that line anyway.
I didn't want to side track us. I'm just saying,
you don't have to post I voted on your you
can you? Can you put the I voted sticker on
your mask when you go into a voting booth? Can
(30:38):
you put that work? Do you need ask? I'm just
trying to trying to figure out. I'm just I'm trying
to figure out all this works, right, I just want
to make sure we're on the same page. I'm glad
you said that, though, Thank Christ. I'm just saying I'm
fed up with it. I voted, I gambled today. But
do I get a sticker? You know you have a
(30:58):
sticker on the rest room. I washed my hands. That
to me, that that matters more. That matters more that
you put a sticker on that I watched versus I voted.
I'm just saying it's true. Man. By the way, I
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just everyone out there, you guys are some sick people.
I travel enough to watch so many people go to
the bathroom and not wash their hands. Right, just seriously,
just wash your hands. I don't even care if you
don't do it for thirty seconds, you know, scrubbing to
do it for ten seconds. Something is better than nothing. Okay,
that's all I asked. It is sick people out. Something
is better than nothing. I got a buddy, my buddy
(31:45):
Ien doesn't wash his hands after he uses the bathroom.
Weird to me out It's weird is you're still buddies
with end And it's weird that you know it well
enough to actually shoot it out there and say that
my buddy doesn't do it. I didn't want to have
my hand you're a sick Oh yeah, I didn't want.
I don't want to add him on the air like that,
but that happened. Sorry, let's get those stickers going. You
(32:06):
know who always washes his hands? Is that the meat Wagon?
Oh yeah, really, you'd probably wash them too much now,
they're like shaved, like the guy could use some lotions. Rather,
you'd have chafed hands than unto, untouched, unwashed. When you
can grab his hands, it feels like a thriller pad.
Nothing like a scaly hand wrapped around a white claw. Huh,
there's no problem with that. Multi I'd rather see that sticker.
(32:29):
I'd love to see the meat wagon and LaVar drink together.
They're both big, double fisting LaVar. What about that? I
got to look at the sticker. No, don't want to,
don't need that sticker. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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get the results. This was an interesting one. First, first
drop off the board, first Lamar Jackson Russian attempt. Result
would be in either a first down, touchdown, fumble, or
none of the above. Hold on a second, how much sauca?
Did you just eat too much? I'm trying to get
rid of it, Jesus, what's you're eating? Salsa? Burna brought
(34:23):
some paste Pecanti in and Eas handed out. I feel
like it's a bit early for that, isn't it? Not? No,
not if you're no? Well, Uh, yeah, Lee was just
ripping chips and sauca during the break. Yeah, some homemade sauca. Yeah, Bertie,
(34:45):
you saw that. You knew where he was going there. Yes,
early for Lee, not for me. Yeah. I mean I
was gonna have chicken Tamali's with eggs and rice and
beans this morning. But you know, if you want to
make it about you Lee or named burd Oh, then
that's cool. That's cool. Alright, that's a true story too,
(35:06):
by the way. But all right, Well, first first, prop
Jonas and LaVar, you guys were correct that it would
be for a first down four yards first down for
Lamar on his first Russian attempt. Uh. I thought I
got sacked a couple of times. He did get sacked
a couple of times, but they counted those as sacks,
so I wouldn't call those even though he was kind
of russing for the line of scrimmage. It's what they
(35:26):
call it on the stat line. I agree with you, Brady, Um, okay,
all right, well but we won, but so go ahead.
Who is the second? Who is the second player to
attempt to pass for the Saints? Jamis Winston, Taysom Hill
or nobody. It was Taysom Hill. Jonas was the only
one who took that one first first highlight of John
Harbaugh's winning Super Bowl in New Orleans. You guys were
(35:46):
all right, it was before halftime, just before the two
minute warning. Let's sen Jonas, let'sen Jonas is get excited.
First time Taysom Hill touches the ball. This was an
interesting one. He had a rush attempt that was negated
by a penalty. His next one after that was a handoff.
Then laid it was a pass in a rush. I'm
gonna mark this down as a rush or a handoff.
Nobody had this this, Jonas, you had a past attempt. Brady,
(36:08):
you had reception LaVar you said none of the above. Okay,
you would not touch the ball. So it was a
rushing attempt. His first one it was negated by a penalty,
and nobody picked rushing an attempt. Yeah, I'm not sure
if you know how this works, but it goes down
in the book as nothing since it's negated. But no,
it's kind of like which and then he handed it
(36:30):
off on the next place, which no, because you actually
went back. I went back. I was in. I had
given it to you, Lamar, and then I went back
and I listened to it, and you said he would
actually not touch the ball at all. A little fired up?
It was nothing, well because then he had a pass
and then he had a rush. No, it was negated.
(36:52):
The first play was negated, which it was nothing. Now
you thought it was gonna be a special teams touch.
We really didn't want me to win, now, I know.
Last we all had a right the truth about Lee?
Now Lee, right? You sell out you some of them.
(37:14):
Last one with Alvin Camara punched somebody outside of an
elevator after the game. We don't know quite yet, but
I'm gonna work that down as a no. You all
get that one, all right, said Jonas. You got that
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we've got a couple of stories in the NFL we've
been discussing. There was a heist, a bank heist in
the NFL last night. It was called the Baltimore Ravens
minus a point and a half at New Orleans. The
Saints stink, Andy Dalton struggles in prime time. They were
(01:46):
handing out money, handing out money at sports books across
the country last night with Baltimore minus one and a
half doesn't make any sense. Retroactively doesn't make any sense
whatsoever based on what was there? Isn't that always what
will say? Retroactively didn't make any sets. Of course, the
first time we've said it on this show here, right,
you know which side were you on? Weren't you taking
(02:07):
that point a half in the stands? No? I loved
I loved Baltimore. Who did did somebody take that to
a kid? I thought the Sants are gonna took Baltimore.
It took Baltimore. We go back and check Gonda swarm.
Do you have the results? That was that one of
our pixley, one of our spread wasn't under part of Yeah,
(02:27):
we got those coming up. The over under is different
which hit the under? So yeah, no, we did not
talk spread. Well, if we would have, I would have
taken Baltimore. I would have take I would have taken
the Saints. Would have been wrong, Yeah, Andy Dalton h
And I think the Ravens were playing well enough to
think that they would play the way they played last night.
I was just surprised. I mean, Lamar put that team
(02:49):
on his back like he like he usually does. But
that's a tough, tough environment to play. I don't think
people realize, like when you go look at the different domes,
that's probably number one, right, I'm trying to think of
what would be a tougher environment in regards to a
dome than New Orleans. Is it the dome or is
it what's happening outside the dome? Well, what's happening outside
(03:12):
the dome transfirst into the dome. It's a hostile environment
to play in. It's a tough environment to play in.
So they pre game and then they walk into the
dome and just going, yeah, that te stadium was hard
to play in. Yeah, but it's not a dome anymore.
What would that be considered? Uh multi purpose? Yeah, well
(03:37):
Texas Stadium was the University of Texas. No, no, like
Dallas was the Dallas Texas but they had they had
an opening in the top. And the story was I
think Jerry Jones said it was so God could watch
because they were America's team. That was his big the
big claim. I think it was. Jerry Jones just said
that if it wasn't, we'll clean that up in the podcast.
(03:59):
Don't make it seems like we it right, We'll cut
it after the show. Yeah, I just said, so God
could watch watch watch America's team play. Yea, all right,
but look I understand, I know the Steelers probably have
a claim to that. Growing up, that was, you know,
a big, big issue. I was still talking about the
Ravens in the Saints game. Yeah. I didn't even want
to get off of you know, I just I was
(04:19):
just thinking about hard places to play and that were domed.
You know, what about Minnesota? Minnesota tough place to play.
I mean just yeah, I mean anytime you hear that
horn and stuff like that. I played there once. I
played there as a college guy too. It was it
was hard in college. That was hard in college. But
(04:40):
I definitely think that it was kind of it was
very difficult to play against New Orleans. I don't know, Yeah,
it was just it was kind of dark. Because I
don't know, what are you trying to say, like it's
kind of dark? Let that pass. It would take you
to come up with that. I didn't say you said it.
(05:03):
I did say it thanking about the lighting. Okay, yeah,
I'm not not not. The jerseys they were were okay,
outfits or people in them. Um. By the way, we
do have a let's go live to leave. I just
got that. By the way, let's go Speaking of which,
(05:24):
let's go live to leave the lap. Who's got an
update on the quote from Jerry Jones talking about the
roof over Dallas Stadium very very close. Um, Texas Stadium
has a hole in its roof so God could watch.
And you've got to get this last part right. His
favorite team play. Okay, see yea, I wasn't that far off.
I knew that was happening. Um, thank you, j You're
(05:46):
not going ahead the button on, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry.
We appreciate it all right. So from from one owner
Jerry Jones, to another one Jim Mercy, who also this
is the other story in the NFL making the round.
Jeff Saturday's knew, the now head coach for the Indianapolis
coach after they fire Frank Reich. And um, well, Jim Mercy,
(06:08):
we heard the best of early on in the show,
him talking about the reason behind his h his hiring
of Jeff Saturday and just sort of his summary of
where he's been and what he's done in the NFL.
But he was specifically talking about the inexperience of Jeff Saturday.
Jim Mercy explaining why he likes the inexperience from his
(06:29):
now new head coach. I'm glad he doesn't have in
NFL experience. I'm glad he hasn't learned the fear that's
in this league. That's because it's tough for our coaches.
They're afraid, they go to analytics and it gets difficult.
I mean, he doesn't have all that. He doesn't have
that that fear and there was no other candidate. We
were fortunate that he was available. Oh wow, first offs,
(06:54):
Well yeah, aren't you just taking shots of like on
your own staff. Let's take a bet a lot of them.
What a dumpster fire man? It gets better and better. Man, say,
we're not building rockets to Mars nuclear scientists. I don't
think a nuclear scientist is building rockets to Mars anyway.
(07:16):
So I don't know how the saugect. I don't know
even what's in the sausage. That's it's sausage. That's what's
in the sausage there. Yeah, So all NFL coaches and
Canada when you know it, Oh yeah, that use analytics
when you know it. That's right, you know it when
you see it, use analytics. I did, like, is there
(07:39):
a reason why they kept pushing back that press conference?
It was supposed originally be like what seven? Yeah? Eight? Well,
they tried to let him sober up as much as
they possibly could. That was as far and that was
as close as they could get. That is happy singing,
happy hour and sing happy six or seven. Nowadays, it
(08:00):
can't happy hour can go all the way up till
like eight nine o'clock. In most places, it doesn't end
it like six or seven. When I was at Applebee's,
I came up in that bad boy at nine. It
was still a happy hour. Listen, every every every hour
has had. I took full advantage sticks City Long Island,
Sticks Sticks, City Long Island. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, alright,
(08:23):
for a while, what did they do? A quarterback Matt
Ryan going to go back to be the starter? Or
Ryan might be calling the place? He might he might
be a million dollars. Oh see at this point, who's
called the place? The whole thing is so bizarre, man, Seriously,
just Saturday, might put Matt Ryan back in and tell him,
(08:44):
don't make me look bad? Did he use five hundred
this year despite how bad the team had been the
offensive line of everything, Like, give him at least a shot.
And it's it's nothing against Sam Ellinger, But if they
keep Ellinger in, this is disdirective. Is coming from Jimmer say,
and he wants them to be bad enough to have
potentially the number one overall pick because he knows how
(09:05):
powerful that is. And and look, I'll just say this,
if you took out I don't I don't know how
you do this, But if you could watch Bryce Young
play and not factor into his size, you'd say he's
as good of a prospect as we've ever seen. Like,
that's how good this young man is. The problem is
he's small, and you look at two and the concerns
(09:28):
with him, even though he's got a longer injury history.
People think that's gonna be the case with with with
Bryce young at least they're concerned about that playing the
seventeen game schedule in the NFL. But if I was
a team and I'm watching the tape on him, I'm
coming away going I know day one he'll be able
to come in and he'll be able to be our quarterback.
He's just that good as a player. It's just he's
(09:50):
tiny and and that, unfortunately, I think, is what's gonna
hold teams back. But if you look at that quarterback
draft class, there's enough guys to make teams excited about
one of the four or five guys they're looking at
the in the first round. By the way, he did say,
Jim Mercy said that Chris Ballard the GM he expects
him to be back in Yeah, Well, doesn't he have
(10:12):
to say over that? Yeah. It's also when you're this impulsive,
like when you when you go from we're making a
change at quarterback, which I don't think that Frank Reich
wanted to do, but I think Jim Mercy was behind it,
and then you get rid of the offensive coordinator a
week later, and then you fire your head coach a
week after that. I don't know if anybody on that
staff should be a safe when it comes to their job.
(10:33):
But Chris Ballard the GM, he did talk about just
the issues they've had, most specifically to your point, Brady,
at offensive line, here was the now right now as
in the moment Colts GM extensively, I would tell you
we're playing pretty good football. Um. Offensively is where we
gotta we gotta make some hay. Um. We've not played
(10:53):
as well up front as we need to play. And
I think you all know my as y'all have been
kicking out of me for years for not drafting Whitehouse,
and all of a sudden, now look up and you
know we're under performing on the offensive line right now. Um,
and that's gotta that's gotta take another that's got to improve.
(11:13):
So you're not taking receivers, but you don't you're not
taking offensive lineman either, So are you trying to say
that it's all gone to your defense. I didn't under
I didn't they have taken a Quentin Nelson they have. Yeah,
that's the problems. They have taken offensive lineman or not.
That group is not even panning out. So I think
that more of his point was, like, our strategy is
not working. Do you think Jeff satur or two questions,
(11:36):
do you think Jeff Saturday was the first phone call?
And be do you think part of the reason behind
this was if we could at least fix our offensive
line at least we're heading in the right direction. And
Kevin the offensive lineman because the Hall of Famer, he's
an assistant a lineman. Yet, I mean, do you think
they hired Jeff Saturday so that he could help them
(11:58):
figure out how to fix the old line in draft alignment?
If I was an assistant on that staff, I'd be
so piste off. Like none none of us could do that.
We've been here all year, all through training camp. None
of us could do the job, like like not, not
one of us could step up for the final eight
games and do the job. We've gotta bring in some
guy for me. Curious, peculiar, It's weird direction he would
(12:21):
go in. It's a little curious. You know, it's your guy.
I'm not mad at him. You make your decision, you
live that I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying I'm
not mad at him. I'll put it this way. I mean,
there's no other owner you'd look at and yeah, there's
(12:42):
a shot. My phone's gonna ring and he's gonna say, hey,
I heard John Radio LaVar. I mean, I don't know.
I mean, what other owner could you say that would
be in the reub of possibility? Jim. Jim might be
the only owner you can say, just gaming to you,
Bucky Larson, Mark Davis. He's probably not listening right now.
(13:04):
But I'm just saying he came and took John Gruten
and Mike Mayock. Yeah, but yeah, I'm just saying Mercy
just is a wild card. I mean, yeah, I like it.
I mean, I think they're both wild cards. But I
hope he wins, honestly for for a fast entertainment and conversation,
(13:25):
because everybody expects it to fail, right, so it's not
it's not a surprise if it doesn't work. But if
it does work, that'd be pretty interesting. I just gotta
be honest. Indianapolis is three five and one, They've got
eight games left. What would what would give? Okay, so
what so he's got to win six or seven to
(13:46):
keep the job moving forward if he wants it. What
would he need to do for Jim Mercy to say
he's if he wants to keep the job, he's gotta
he's gotta win this weekend. Why don't you whyn't you
have a little more respects for Josh McDaniels and what
they're building there. Here's the only problem about what Burno
(14:08):
just said. Um, that line opened Las Vegas giving a
point half. It's now up to six. I still think
I might lay the points. By the way, it's six
and a half. I think it went up a half
point in the last four minutes. What depends on the book?
And I don't you always I'm not sure what. I'm
looking at every book, every book I got at all
(14:30):
I'm looking just not happen at sings. Well, I'm looking
at I'm looking at others. Bet mgm, no, that's not right.
I'm looking at a point. Bet, I'm looking at DraftKings. Look,
I'm all right here, LaVar my line draft Kings six
and a half us. You use draft kicks, that's what
you typically. I am looking at all the books, LaVar.
(14:50):
You you're a witness to this. I'm looking at all
the books. I got it all here. I've got connections. Man, Listen,
you know what I'm doing. Hey, if they lose this
weekend to the Colts, tank, baby tank, take time. I
hope they lose by the way last ye want out? Nah? Right? Young?
(15:12):
You don't want nobody from Ohio State? That could be
the kiss of death. Yeah, okay, I could dig it.
What do you mean justin fields starting to play? Well?
Come on now, all right laugh. They fired John McDaniels.
If you lose this to this terrible colds, okay, and
fire him too? Is that a fireble offense? I mean
(15:34):
I don't honestly, it might be. Yeah, yeah, yes, you
lose to franchise that has a coach with no experience. Well,
who's who's the de coordinator for the Raiders? Now? Why
am I? He's terrible? Yeah? Patrick Graham's funny because he
interviewed for a lot of head coaching jobs. So there.
(15:54):
I don't think Josh McDaniels will get clipped. But Patrick
Graham will probably be clipped if they give up, Like
if Sam l Ainger starts and they put up like
points and beat the Raiders in Las Vegas points a
game minimum. I mean, listen, it's a new NFL. I mean, like,
you know, that could win you a lot of games.
You have the offense. I mean, they're only giving up
(16:15):
twenty points a game. With all the additions on offense,
they should still be winning a lot of games. And
they're not. So you got problems vert they're always winning.
They just don't want to win. Yeah, they do have leads.
Having leads, they'd be ready to win the game then
they don't. Imagine josh Vick Daniels talking to a Bucky Larson.
(16:39):
He pulls him into a meeting and he says, what
do you mean we had to lead at one point?
What are you complaining about? Just wasn't at the end
of the game. All right, you know that's not even
the noise he makes. It's just what I hear in
my head when yeah, alright, there's that. Tell Brady that
(17:08):
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Packer season UH continues to get worse and worse. Rashaun
Gary is now out for the year. He's got a
torn a c l UH. They've also got injuries. Eric Stokes,
they're starting quarterback. He got banged up. UH, Romeo Dobbs
he got hurt. Aaron Jones was banged up, although it
looks like he's going to be back dealing I think
with an ankle injury. They were saying, Uh, not great
(18:59):
in all the way around for the green Bay Packers,
but at least you know they don't have to see
their X. Oh that's right. They got Dallas this weekend.
So Mike McCarthy returns with a team that looks much
more healthy than the Green Bay Packers do, and it
just feels like we are heading towards an awful season.
For the remainder of this stretch for the Packers is
Aaron Rodgers and that team continue to struggle. So the
(19:22):
Cowboys are giving five points to the Packers at home
in Lambeau. That's just it's crazy to me, Like, I
immediately think, take the points, take the Packers. There's no chance.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers is good against the spread as
underdog in general, but at home first at Lambeau, like
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no brainer. And then I look at how these two
teams match up, and the Packers defensive weakness is stopping
the run. Cowboys can run the football, and that Dallas
Cowboys defensive front can get after Aaron Rodgers, and they've
got a good enough coverage players to cover down whoever's
left on the outside. And so the Cowboys defense can
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shut down the Packers offense, which which doesn't take much,
by the way, based on how it's looked like, when
you really dive into it, you kind of go huh,
Like Dallas could blow them out. The way these two
teams stack up first one another, it's just crazy to
see where this is gone. Man. Yeah, I wouldn't be
surprised if they blow him out. And in years past
I would have been like, this is the type of
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game that Aaron Rodgers thrives, and he comes in and
he'll win. I just don't see that this year. I
don't really see there being any real bright spots for
green Bay right now. There's nothing I can lean on
and say there's an it factor outside of it. You know,
I love going out outside of statistics and stuff like
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that and probabilities based off of you know, those types
of deals. I don't have it. I don't have it
to offer. I don't have it to give for for
this this current scenario. It was interesting. One of the
things I think maybe you said at Q, maybe you
said that Jonas, I'm not sure, but you know, you
guys said that, you know, we're gonna have to see
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the floor coach. He's gonna have to coach this year
by and this is if this is him coaching. If
this is their coaching staff coaching and they have to
coach because of what they have currently, then I don't
know what that says about, you know, this coach and
this coaching staff. But but going into this game, there's
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nothing that gives me any reason to sit there and
say that Dallas won't dominate Green Bay in this game. Yeah,
what's the bright spot for the Packers? To your point,
the season, every game they played the seasons. You know,
I had a conversation yesterday, and I hate to keep
bringing this back back up. What was ayahuasca? Is that?
What it wasn't. I was having a conversation with someone yesterday.
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You mentioned the same exact thing that you said, Jonas,
and they said, look, when you do that kind of stuff,
you just don't come back the same And and and
it looks he doesn't look the same like he's looked
I said earlier in the season. He looks apathetic. And
and now it's like almost like a degree of frustration
because he's not getting the results he's accustomed to. But
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when you're taking that kind of stuff, man, and it
alters your brain and your how you think and how
you react and how like a sense of urgency and
just all of it. You've got to think that that
had to have played a factor. I don't know what else.
The disconnect is. This is a huge departure like this
past week when you saw him throwing you know, red
zone or near a goal line like interceptions. I mean,
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Aaron Rodgers barely throws interceptions in general, let alone in
that portion of the field. And you're looking at going
like what else can you point to that he wasn't
around the off seasons, Okay, but there's other offseasons he
wasn't around, Okay. Davanta Adams isn't there anymore? Yeah, but
he's dealt with the transition from Greg Jennings to Jordy Nelson.
Jordy Nelson, Davanti Adams. I mean you could go through
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the years of times he's had to transition two different
wide receivers. He's throwing too, So so what do you
point to. I kind of look and go like, maybe
that is it? Like like maybe that is you know,
what's impacting how he's seeing the field and playing and
and how he feels about the game of football. Because
the thought is when you go to that place, or
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you take that trip as they call it, that it
puts things into perspective to where you no longer sweat
small things. You know, you no longer are worried about,
because it takes you into a place to where now
you're thinking big picture and you're looking at things deeper
than you've ever looked at him before, and you get
a little bit more clarity. And it's almost like even
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when he throws those interceptions, like they're showing him cursing
on the sideline, like it almost looks like it's forced,
but he's not really that bummed out about it. You know,
he's a little bit annoyed, but it's not really. It's
just the the P and V isn't there like it
was in other years to where he'd be really agitated
and really upset. Yes, yeah, the little P and B.
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Thank you. That's a good point, Laura, very Uh, there's
a fair point. Um, let me ask you this. Did
the Packers have the worst offense in their division? I mean,
statistics speaking right now, I don't know if it makes
sense for the entire year. The Bears they're pretty bad
spelled for a while. They're the lowest. They're the lowest
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scoring offense in their division. Think about that, behind the
Lions the Bears, who are number one, aren't they as
far as the offense? Uh, Detroit is. No, they're near
their top half of the league. But yeah, they're they're
last in the division and scoring. Like if Aaron Rodgers,
(24:52):
like you suppose you have the best quarterback in the division. Hey,
can you guys imagine Aaron Rodger playing Aaron Rodgers playing
his hand the way that he did last year talking
all that s he talked last year, you don't come
to Green Bay for anything else other than Aaron Rodgers,
all that stuff. He said, I don't know if I'm
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coming back this done, the other all the things he
aired out coming into the season last year. Could you
imagine if they were having the type of season they're
having right now? Yeah, Like, how would that have ended?
So so so now how how is this going to end? That?
So now the next question is how does this end?
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How does this end? Because if you have any time
and the vulnerability of the armor of that of Aaron
Rodgers it is now, it is now, you could justify
whatever it is that they would want to do front office,
you could justify it now. And now he's got to
see Mike McCarthy, the coach that apparently was just what
(25:56):
didn't have it anymore and was what he got his
money though out ate it and he was, you know,
getting massages and taking naps in the office, and they
basically clowned Mike McCarthy on his way out the door,
and they lose that game to Arizona at home, and
then he gets fired in season they clowned Mike McCarthy
is about to come in there, and he's coming for
(26:17):
that ass he want. Mike McCarthy's coming in. Speaking of
P and B, he's full of all of it, ready
to come in. He's hurt. All the conversations about I
was the problem, Aaron Rodgers. You know, I was being
held back because of Mike McCarthy. And now he's got
to come in there with a with a fully healthy team.
Good for him. He's gonna put a massage tap on
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the fifth yard after they get oh yeah, a selfie here, Aaron,
go look another toad and to have fun. Said, that's
how you're supposed to do it. Hey, I'll take Dallas
minus the five and a half or whatever it is.
I'll go, well the sime if you want to draft
Kings as at a five. But I mean I can.
I can find the other odds. I've got them all
(27:01):
up for you here in case you're wondering. You know,
just I've got everything you need. That's what I do here.
So if you're just wondering, uh, yeah, we got five
five and a half in some places. Yeah. So I'll
go ahead and throw something out there off topic, totally
off topic, and then we can go back to to
where we were at. You don't have to post I voted, like,
(27:23):
thank Christ, thank you honestly, like I gotta get this
off my chest really quickly, thank you. I gotta tell
you can you do the p S A first? Like people,
today is a day you can go vote Today you can't.
You can't vote. There you go that that, go vote,
please vote, vote, okay, like let your let your voice
(27:45):
be heard that way. You don't have and and you
know what, if you don't want to, that's your choice
as well. That's that's you know what, here's the premise
of my public service announcement. That's your business. It's just
like COVID, right the people that I had two problems,
I'm vaccinated. Like, listen, we don't have to make everything
(28:05):
a social media experiment or declaration. We don't. Like I
just got my thirteen booster yesterday. Right, go go vote,
don't vote, Go get your thirteen booster. Don't get your booster.
I give zero fs about if you voted or not.
Now that's just me. But I'm just I'm just saying
(28:29):
if you voted, then that's good. It's it's like I
was a good parent today. Like you don't have to
post a sticker that says I was a good parent today.
I didn't anybody today. I didn't I didn't shoot anyone today.
I didn't rob a store today. You know what, I'm
breathing air today, Like, you don't have to post I voted, people,
(28:53):
all right? I just thought I got over the people
who were the sticker to that. That's what I'm saying.
Like people love posting their stickers of I've like, do
you understand how remedial that is? Do you understand how
how childish it is to post a sticker showing that, Like,
what is your intention by posting your sticker of I voted.
(29:16):
It's equivalent to getting a lollipop after you go to
the doctor when you're a kid. Or it's the equivalent
of I was the best student in class today and
so I got a sticker Like like, okay, go vote.
That's great, But like, why are you making that the
whole premise of of of your your media post Like
(29:37):
I think it's it's I don't. I think it's silly.
It's people the post workout videos to workout pictures. I
do work out pictures when I did work You just go,
I'll take my shirt off, clanging and banging and just
leave it, leave the phone in the car. I agree
with you, but I'm just saying that might be a
(29:57):
little bit different than I voted. Man. Plus, it's hard
workout video, no a post a post pump video. Yeah,
but it's still a little different. Still a little different
A sticker of voting it than you. Not not that
(30:18):
I'm better than you. However, I do feel like I
voted sticker can go along that that down that line anyway.
I didn't want to side track us. I'm just saying,
you don't have to post I voted on your you
can you? Can you put the I voted sticker on
your mask when you go into a voting booth? Can
(30:38):
you put that work? Do you need ask? I'm just
trying to trying to figure out. I'm just I'm trying
to figure out all this works, right, I just want
to make sure we're on the same page. I'm glad
you said that, though, Thank Christ. I'm just saying I'm
fed up with it. I voted, I gambled today. But
do I get a sticker? You know you have a
(30:58):
sticker on the rest room. I washed my hands. That
to me, that that matters more. That matters more that
you put a sticker on that I watched versus I voted.
I'm just saying it's true. Man. By the way, I
(31:23):
just everyone out there, you guys are some sick people.
I travel enough to watch so many people go to
the bathroom and not wash their hands. Right, just seriously,
just wash your hands. I don't even care if you
don't do it for thirty seconds, you know, scrubbing to
do it for ten seconds. Something is better than nothing. Okay,
that's all I asked. It is sick people out. Something
is better than nothing. I got a buddy, my buddy
(31:45):
Ien doesn't wash his hands after he uses the bathroom.
Weird to me out It's weird is you're still buddies
with end And it's weird that you know it well
enough to actually shoot it out there and say that
my buddy doesn't do it. I didn't want to have
my hand you're a sick Oh yeah, I didn't want.
I don't want to add him on the air like that,
but that happened. Sorry, let's get those stickers going. You
(32:06):
know who always washes his hands? Is that the meat Wagon?
Oh yeah, really, you'd probably wash them too much now,
they're like shaved, like the guy could use some lotions. Rather,
you'd have chafed hands than unto, untouched, unwashed. When you
can grab his hands, it feels like a thriller pad.
Nothing like a scaly hand wrapped around a white claw. Huh,
there's no problem with that. Multi I'd rather see that sticker.
(32:29):
I'd love to see the meat wagon and LaVar drink together.
They're both big, double fisting LaVar. What about that? I
got to look at the sticker. No, don't want to,
don't need that sticker. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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(34:03):
lead the lab. How do we do? Let's go, Let's
get the results. This was an interesting one. First, first
drop off the board, first Lamar Jackson Russian attempt. Result
would be in either a first down, touchdown, fumble, or
none of the above. Hold on a second, how much sauca?
Did you just eat too much? I'm trying to get
rid of it, Jesus, what's you're eating? Salsa? Burna brought
(34:23):
some paste Pecanti in and Eas handed out. I feel
like it's a bit early for that, isn't it? Not? No,
not if you're no? Well, Uh, yeah, Lee was just
ripping chips and sauca during the break. Yeah, some homemade sauca. Yeah, Bertie,
(34:45):
you saw that. You knew where he was going there. Yes,
early for Lee, not for me. Yeah. I mean I
was gonna have chicken Tamali's with eggs and rice and
beans this morning. But you know, if you want to
make it about you Lee or named burd Oh, then
that's cool. That's cool. Alright, that's a true story too,
(35:06):
by the way. But all right, Well, first first, prop
Jonas and LaVar, you guys were correct that it would
be for a first down four yards first down for
Lamar on his first Russian attempt. Uh. I thought I
got sacked a couple of times. He did get sacked
a couple of times, but they counted those as sacks,
so I wouldn't call those even though he was kind
of russing for the line of scrimmage. It's what they
(35:26):
call it on the stat line. I agree with you, Brady, Um, okay,
all right, well but we won, but so go ahead.
Who is the second? Who is the second player to
attempt to pass for the Saints? Jamis Winston, Taysom Hill
or nobody. It was Taysom Hill. Jonas was the only
one who took that one first first highlight of John
Harbaugh's winning Super Bowl in New Orleans. You guys were
(35:46):
all right, it was before halftime, just before the two
minute warning. Let's sen Jonas, let'sen Jonas is get excited.
First time Taysom Hill touches the ball. This was an
interesting one. He had a rush attempt that was negated
by a penalty. His next one after that was a handoff.
Then laid it was a pass in a rush. I'm
gonna mark this down as a rush or a handoff.
Nobody had this this, Jonas, you had a past attempt. Brady,
(36:08):
you had reception LaVar you said none of the above. Okay,
you would not touch the ball. So it was a
rushing attempt. His first one it was negated by a penalty,
and nobody picked rushing an attempt. Yeah, I'm not sure
if you know how this works, but it goes down
in the book as nothing since it's negated. But no,
it's kind of like which and then he handed it
(36:30):
off on the next place, which no, because you actually
went back. I went back. I was in. I had
given it to you, Lamar, and then I went back
and I listened to it, and you said he would
actually not touch the ball at all. A little fired up?
It was nothing, well because then he had a pass
and then he had a rush. No, it was negated.
(36:52):
The first play was negated, which it was nothing. Now
you thought it was gonna be a special teams touch.
We really didn't want me to win, now, I know.
Last we all had a right the truth about Lee?
Now Lee, right? You sell out you some of them.
(37:14):
Last one with Alvin Camara punched somebody outside of an
elevator after the game. We don't know quite yet, but
I'm gonna work that down as a no. You all
get that one, all right, said Jonas. You got that
one evening up with LaVar and you guys, you don't
even say evening up with ye throw them up, Hey Pagnan.
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