November 14, 2022 • 35 mins
Who gets canned first between Josh McDaniels and Derek Carr, and does sin city play a role in the Raiders struggles? Plus, a look ahead to Monday Night Football between the Commanders and Eagles on the Prop Bet Monster.
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they had for us coming over there, Like I took
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is who's the quarterback? Is it just? I don't know,
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kind of hard to tell. I mean, it's it's very
uh number three. It's very like cartoonish like like kind
of almost like by almost it could be an Eagles.
It looks like it's an Eagles guy. I don't think
he mattered. Like they don't have a name on him.
He doesn't have a real but I have my name
on dad. Look at you. You've got murals of yourself
in Mexico. That's awesome, pretty cool, right, Yeah, yeah, I've
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done a few things. Yeah I haven't. What's that like,
what's what's it like being famous? It's got to be famous.
I'm not famous, but I have done a few things.
I have impacted lives and that's that's what's more important
than me. Yeah. Yeah, Well it's like, uh, I walk
around with Brady Quinn at the horse races in Kentucky. Well,
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he's got to stop because everybody wants to get a
picture with him. And I'm just kind of sitting with him,
like like we just did a show together, and it's like, uh, hey, yeah, Brady,
can I get a picture of you? And hey, buddy,
can you hold the phone and take the picture? You
have no problem. Here's here's the picture. So listen, I
mean you, you Embrady a couple of celebrities and then
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you got you know, the gum on your shoe over here.
All right, So let's get into a situation in the
National Football League. This is not a great situation whatsoever.
And that situation belongs in Las Vegas, where the Raiders
are not good and it's only getting worse. And so
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we talked about the Jeff Saturday aspect and the Indianapolis
Colts going to Las Vegas and winning that game yesterday
and what that could do for the coaching profession because
you got a lot of people upset that have now
found out, Oh so maybe you don't need to spend
all those hours, you know, inside the facility. You can
actually go in rally a team and win a big
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road game. The flip side of that conversation is now
what happens with the Raiders, And it took a whole
different tone when afterwards Derek Carr, their quarterback, spoke with
the media and he got a little misty eyed. Is
there in any way to disconnect with what you're trying
to do in this new staff as far as the system,
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you know, I don't think so. Um. I love I
love Josh, I love our coaches. They've had nothing but success,
way more success than I've ever had. You know, I'm sorry,
sorry for being emotional. I'm just piste off about some
of the things that a lot of us trying to
do just to practice, when we put our bodies through
just to sleep at night, and for that to be
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the result of all that effort, this is me off.
This is a lot of guys off. It's hard knowing
what some guys are doing, like I said, just to practice,
but they're putting in their body just to sleep at night,
like just so we could be there for each other.
And I wish everybody in that room felt the same
way about this place. And as a leader, that pisces
me off from being honest. I think the emotion of
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just nine years of stuff hit me today for how
much I really love this place and it's not gonna
change anything. I'm come here on my fight and compete
next week and that's what I'm gonna do. God, man,
is he like? Is he tearfully emotionally calling people out? Yeah,
that's what it was, right. I wish everybody was emotional
and and and and teary eyed and choked up about
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loving this place and wanting to win. Uh. And I
think Davante Adams had some similar comments afterwards to it.
There's something that's not working there, and it's easy to
just say that it's Josh McDaniels or you know, the
Josh McDaniel because they were in the playoffs last year
and that was with a coaching change. In all this
sum's off and either always starts from the top. Yeah,
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I'm sorry, it always starts from the top. I just don't.
I don't think Josh McDaniels is going to be the
fall guy here. I know, I know that's the easy solution.
And everyone's saying, Josh McDaniels gotta go. Josh McDaniels has
gotta go. There's issues there in that locker room that
clearly are popping up, and now you've got Derek Carr
hold to a podium. Let me, let me, let me,
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Brady Quinn. You hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on Jonas, hold on, hold on Jonas.
Josh McDaniels added, losing to a coach that has no
experience and came off of the street to coach the team.
And also, by the way, this was against the Colts
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who tried to hire Josh McDaniels and he walked away
from the job a few years ago. A lot of irony.
And I'm just saying and I said, I said this
at the beginning of the show, but I did not, however,
take the other side of the conversation. I basically said,
there's one of two things, and I talked about the second,
which was Jeff Saturday had a plan, executed the plan,
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and now he's manifesting his plan. The other side of
it is is that you gotta fire your head coach immediately.
If you're the Las Vegas Raiders, you have to fire
him a meeting. If you can allow a coach to
come off of the street, a guy, wait, let me
let me rephrase this. If you can allow a media
guy that used to play ball come off of the
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street now talking about all of the outrage and this
is egregious, and this is an abomination, and all these
things that people are saying about Jim Mercy hiring Jeff Saturday,
If all of those things are true, then Josh McDaniels
is the first victim, and and allowing a non qualified
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person to come in and whoop a qualified person's ass. Yes,
he's gotta go. Yeah, yeah, if all intents of purposes,
everybody who loses to Jeff Saturday needs to lose their
job immediately because you're not qualified to coach. If you're
letting someone who has no experience and has had has
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had zero time sitting behind and learning and doing the
process and waiting and all these all other things that
everybody's up said about. Every coach that loses needs to
be fired. I wonder about the map. Yeah, I wonder
if a lot of the players in that locker room,
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we're really bothered that rich Pisaccio was not given an
opportunity to keep that job as head coach of the
Raiders and decided or not decided, but came into this
year with Josh McDaniels thinking why didn't we just stick
with the guy we had like that was Those are
difficult circumstances. Last years have no pros, have no time
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to dwell on those things. We're too far in the
season for that to be what a pro would be.
I'm going to not play hard or I'm not like
we should have kept our coach from before. So what
do you think the problem is? Then? Do you think
it's the head? Do you think it is Whenever you
have so many different changes take place, it has to
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be management. It has to be the culture of of
the corporation, the culture of the company. That is the
reason why. Now where that disconnect is and why, I
don't know, but you do know. We saw what took
place with what Grooden and everything that how that will
all plant played out, And there could have been you know,
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workplace issues that could have arose from from the what
are they the Raiders, that's right, from the Raiders organization.
So to me, I'm thinking it's higher up than that.
But again, higher up you're not making changes. You're not
changing an owner. The culture is the culture as long
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as the people who have created the culture are there.
So now within the culture, you're asking anyone who comes
in there GM, you know, marketers and advertisers, the media,
the GM, the coaches, the players. You're asking everyone who
comes into this culture to be able to make that
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culture a successful culture in terms of the product that
you're producing. And how do you do that knowing that
if you do those things, and it could be that
the culture has to change in order for the product
to change. Go figure, blow your mind on that one, right,
So if the culture isn't changing, but you're changing the GM,
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you're changing the coach, you're changing the players, but you
continue to get the same results, it's easy to track
to to what where it is where the problem exists.
But again, my question now becomes, or my statement is,
since we had all of this, this outrage and all
of these people upset about what what Jeff Saturday's hiring represented,
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and and Jim er say being irresponsible and being egregious
and all that he does beat Josh McDaniels. Yeah, his
team does beat Josh McDaniels. So now you got you
gotta up set Piste off emotional car and and his
and his press conference saying that he wishes people wanted
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to be here as badly as he did this and
that and the other. You have arguably the best receiver,
top three receiver in the National Football League, and from
all things I can see, he's healthy and you're still
getting messed up results. You have no more excuses. So
here's where the conversation is going to go. And I
I can already guarantee you this discussion is going to
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be had when the Jeff Saturday discussion comes up. The
people that were so down on the hiring of Jeff
Saturday are going to say, well, it was the Raiders, right,
So that's one part of the conversation that's gonna be
there out Well, it's the Raiders. Let's see what happens
next week. Let's see what happens the rest of the way.
This isn't sustainable the way Jeff Saturday was brought in.
So that's that's that part of the conversation when it
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comes to the Raiders. At some point, you you talk
about the constant because there's been a bunch of coaching changes. Well,
like one of the constants has been Derek Carr. And
I don't think this has anything to do so much
with Derek Carr as a player, because I think Derek
Carr is a good quarterback. I just wonder whether or
not guys in that locker room buy into him, Like
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whether or not guys in the locker room are like okay,
And now that you've got them calling out players and
emotionally doing so afterwards, I wonder how that's gonna land
with some of these players in the locker room. I
just listen. First of all, if I'm a player in
that locker room, I'm embarrassed that we just lost to
a dude that got hired off of the street and
he hasn't been in for more than what seven days? Yeah,
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a few days, A few days, yea, and goes and
comes out and they win that. First of all, that's embarrassing. Secondly,
if I'm on that team, I am trying to figure
out why the hell are we losing? And we had
Davante Adams, Like, I don't get it. We got car
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we got Atoms, we got a pretty good defense, you
got Max Crosby, you got you got all these different
dudes that are pretty pretty freaking good players, Like this
was again Jacobs J Jacobs seving a good year. We
were talking about this being a conference where all four
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teams could possibly make it into the playoffs all four
and now they are like seller dwelling, like they're they're catfish.
They should be called the Las Vegas catfish because they're
they're they're scavenging off of the bottom. They're not they're
not going and getting it and and and and creating
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their own food. They're they're they're well, they are creating
their own food because they're scavenging off of the bottom.
Not just to me, it is confusing. It is confusing
to see how poorly this team is playing, especially with
all of the excitement of the brilliant mind of Aush
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McDaniels coming in to be a part of of your
your your organization as the coach. I don't I don't
think this is a matter of they don't buy into car.
I think this is a matter of like trying to
figure out where the like you said, where the breakdown
and communication exists. Because to have all that talent to
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be able to be in games and actually have games one,
they're like literally a quarter and a half away from
having an opposite conversation take place on this team. They're
owing six and one score games go. Yeah, it's they've
given up the lead. I mean, do we have the
stat on that how many times have they given up
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a lead? There's been several. There's been at least two
or three seventeen point leads that they've blown, so that
the defense has been shaky. Um, it's just it's not
great man. And and look, injuries are also part of
the prod. Darren Waller has been banged up all year,
Hunter Hunter, Renfroze banged up. But you have got Josh Jacobs,
you still got Davantae Adams, You've got Derek Carr, who's
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more than capable quarterback. It's just something's wrong there, something's off.
It doesn't it doesn't make sense. And whether it's stair car,
whether it's Josh McDaniels, who knows, Maybe there's some bad
seeds in the locker room that that Derek Carr and
Davantae Adams are trying to weed out. I don't think
they fired Josh McDaniels. I don't think that happens. I
don't think they go that drastic here. But I do
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think keep putting a band aid over a wound that
needs internal Uh, what is it addressing? Yeah, you gotta
go into the wound. You gotta clean the wound out.
If there's if there's impurities and and stuff in there,
infection and stuff, you gotta get that out of there.
You gotta treat it from within. And as you treat
it from within, that that means you gotta take antibiotics.
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You gotta get this that another and then you you
clean it out and you stitch it up. But to
put a band aid over a festering uh type of
of a wound, you're not going to fix it. So
the answer isn't to just keep getting rid of your
quarterback or your coaches. It's not. The answer isn't to
keep getting rid of your players and trying to bring
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in new players. The answer is is looking in the mirror.
If you are the ones that have created this culture,
then if you want that culture to change, you have
got to take a look as into the mirror as
to see as to what needs to happen within the
culture of our workplace in order for our connection to
take place where the accountability and the ownership that should
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be there for the people that are putting that product
out there on the field can can feel good about
what it is that they're doing and where they're going,
that's not there, and that's why you fail. That's when
failure takes place. It's Two Pros and a Cup of
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at six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. And I ask
you a quick question. Who lost worse Aaron Rodgers or
Davonte Adams. Who's the worst loser? Who's the bigger loser
here and them them not being together this year? I
would say, oh, Man, probably Rogers. I think he's feeling
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the impact maybe a little bit more. Although you know,
Watson had a good game yesterday for the you know,
for the Green Bay Packers. So there's that. Let me
ask you this Was Davante Adams a Hall of Famer
before he left Green Bay? Yes, okay, I mean he
was on on on the path to being a Hall
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of Famer. What I asked you, that's not what I
asked you. That's vastly different than what I asked you.
Was Davante Adams a Hall of Famer when he left
Green Bay? No, because he's still playing, so he's not
allowed to be in the Hall of Fame until five
years after he's retired. I would say, I can't say
he's a Hall of Famer right then and there. But
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if he had stayed in Green Bay, I feel more
if he were to retire today, is he going to
the Hall of Fame? Probably not, not long enough. So
he might have costed himself the opportunity to go to
the Hall of Fame by leaving Green Bay. Possibly now
he's but look, he's having good performances with the Raiders
Hall of Fame performances. Yeah, and especially when they're losing
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that Hall of Fame. Um. I mean, but look, and
Antonio Brown was on his way to being a Hall
of Famer and then you know, something's got in the way.
Later in his career, some other things you know, so,
so Antonio Brown is no longer going to be in
the Hall of Fame. Let me just can I throw
I just want to ask you a theory, all right,
and you tell me if you buy into this at all.
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So we're talking about the Raiders and what's what's wrong
with the Raiders. They've got all this talent um, Josh
McDaniel's new head coach. There, there was a lot of
optimism going into the season, and yet here we are.
They just lost to Jeff Saturday, who has been on
the job for like seventy two hours and just walked
off a set at ESPN, and he's got Dan Orlovsky
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basically campaigning for a job or a raise at ESPN
to try and join his staff. And we're trying to
figure out, so what's going on with the Raiders. And
then you're hearing Derek Carr talking about guys that maybe
aren't bought in. Davante Adams was saying the same thing
post game, guys aren't totally bought in. They're trying to
send a message to somebody. Let me throw this at you.
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It is Las Vegas, Vegas, and you've got a lot
of young guys in Las Vegas. Even if they're not young,
it's Las Vegas. And all I know is when I
made a bunch of money as a bus boy at
t g I Fridays, the first thing I was thinking
is I'm going to Vegas and I would lose it all,
but damn I'd have a good time. Do you think
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maybe being in Las Vegas is starting to eat up?
Is that some of the guys on that when they
started having issues. I'm just saying, like, do you think
me now? Follow me? Is that when the issue started
to arise with the writers meaning what the players that Well,
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That's what I'm asking is, do you think is it
couldn't be making it worse because you have. If I'm
in Oakland and we suck and we stink, what are
you doing? You're going home, You're watching film, You're ordering out,
or you're going out to get some fine dining, you
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know what I mean. Like, but where do you really
find yourself getting into anything where it's like I'm gonna
go hit the beach today. If I'm a RAM and
we're having a bad season, you could go to to
Manhattan Beach, you can go to beaches, you could go
get away and go to a nice little resort in
Orange County. I was at that game, and like, there's
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a lot of seats that were empty. You know, there
are other things to do. You don't have a whole
lot of things to do in Oakland. So I'm now
in Vegas and we're not playing very well. Well, you
know what, I bet you this after parties, still living.
I bet you there's there's things to do during the
course of the week. And I'm still a raider. You
still can get the results you want as a pro
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even if you're losing, because you're still a pro. Like, oh,
there there's a there's a Vegas Raider, right like I
just I wonder and obviously you know this better than
I would. But losing in certain places isn't as bad.
It's not as bad. It affect you differently because you're
losing in Green Bay, like them losing in Green Bay.
That's where you're at, and you're losing that like I
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might want to like end it, but I'm gonna end
it all. But but if you lose in Vegas, you
walk outside the stadium and there's still a whole another
life and there is anything you want at any time.
It's twenty four hours. And for anybody that's never been
to Vegas, or for anybody that just that doesn't understand,
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it's not a far drive from out here in Los Angeles.
And I can tell you there were plenty of options
for a bus boy. I can't imagine what the options
would be like. There's no drive for them that they
I mean, it's all walkable. It's just you literally any
anywhere you want to go, anything you want, at all times.
And so I just wonder if the Death Star is
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connected to the bear Garden at uh what what is it?
The MGM spot? What is it called? Uh? Oh? The
uh what's the name of them towers? There's like two
different towers and one is connected like you can walk.
There's a walkway you can go from lux Or to
Excalibur to the to New York, New York to MGM,
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like you can's the other one? What's the other? Uh?
Casino that that MGM bought out? They bottom big towers.
I can't remember. But the point is, you're right there
is the point. You're right there, you lose and it's like,
and I wonder if who are the most vocal guys
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about this. Derek car Davante Adams. Both those guys are married,
they got kids. Maybe they're not out, you know, doing
the thing. Of course they're not. Yeah, you know, just
they just go straight home and they hang out with
their family. All right. We're not trying to add anybody here,
but I just want that's outing anyone. That's just life.
I wonder if those guys are looking at you, if
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you took it on your chin and you took an
ale and I I get I'm either in Vegas or
I land back in Vegas and I'm a rookie. That
that is hell. You don't even have to say. You
don't even have to give the requirements. I don't have
to say a single rookie you might have a girlfriend
who cares, right, like, let's be honest here, like Desharn
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Watson had a girlfriend the whole time. So so what
I'm saying is there doesn't happen to be any qualifiers
when lose or draw. Some of these cats is knowing
what they're gonna do during the week before the game,
after the game. And I just wonder if Derek Carr
and Davante Adams are looking at these guys going down,
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You're not you're not losing and making a good point
here and letting it affect you the way that it
affects us, because you're losing and thinking to yourself, you
have but you know what, so and so serving Prime
Rib until midnight and then we're staying up until seven
am afterwards. You're making a good point, Jonas. I mean,
it definitely could get worse based off of the environment
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that they're in. Because they stunk in Oakland. I mean,
I'm taking the stunk in Oakland, but to stink in Vegas,
I mean, look, the dude lost his career because he
was being irresponsible. Like you're being irresponsible, you lose your career,
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and somebody lost their life, and somebody lost their life
and a dog did I mean that was that? I
mean that's you're talking about an environment that if you're
not laser sharp focused, if you don't, I mean, d
C is like that. It's not like it's not like Vegas,
but there's some place of New York is like that.
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I played in both them places. Believe you me. They
show a lot of love to their teams. I remember
talking with a buddy of mine about this. When the
Cubs finally want to World Series in Chicago. I said,
that's oh man, that's it. What do you mean they
just want a world series, the get all this young talent.
When you're walking around and you know you can have
whatever you want whenever you want it because you were
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the team that brought a world series to that place
for the first time in over a hundred years. Have
fun and they haven't been close. You do that in Vegas, though,
that that's gotta be. That's like you're almost on like
some type organized crime type stuff. If you come walk in,
they're gonna put a table down with some table like
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you're gonna get. You're gonna get the best you know,
back backs, uh, backstage opportunities to meet talents. You're gonna
get invited to all of them. You want and your
and your and your twenty four years old, I can't
even imagine. I was a bus boy, got in trouble.
That should motivate you to want to win, though, like
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that can't motivate you to be a loser. I don't
want to walk around and be a loser. I don't
want to be on a team and be like I
don't care about practicing hall Like my mind is on
the casinos or the show girls or anything like that,
or whatever it is that your poison is that you
would choose in Sin City. I would want to be
like the best I know. When I was in Washington,
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I went out. When I first got there, people was like,
yo far far Var Var Var Var, Like, I mean,
I ain't even been here yet, and y'all calling me
var like l A and Var. Nobody called me LaVar.
It was Var in l A and the And immediately
I'm like, I'm in Chocolate City. I'm Chocolate. Let's make
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this work. Let's make this work. And any time I
got tired, I can sit here and tell you all
of the cool things about think about your family, and
think about where you came from and the things you overcame.
Sometimes I kept jumping rope and lifting weights because I
knew if I played and I bawled out and I
went out in d C, I was gonna be the man.
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I'm there. Michael Jordan is playing on the Wizards. I
I'm seeing all the loveday saw him. M J I'm
sitting there thinking to myself, I'm the number one draft
pick for this team. They're coming out of the playoffs.
All I gotta do is do what I do, and
I'm gonna be the dude up in here. I'm not
coming out there to lose. I'm not not doubt and
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I'm not thinking about going to d C Live or
going to v I P or going to Zanzibar or
going to to to K Street or anything like that.
I'm thinking about winning the games and being the best
that I can be and trying to make Pro Bowls
and get all Pro bids. That has to be the
mindset that starts with the person. You can't ever blame
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your environment on your lack of of thriving and success
as it applies to you personally. Now maybe as a team,
but personally I can't buy that. Yeah, it's uh, it's
it's not not a good sight in Las Vegas. But listen, now,
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you went three and two last week. Yeah, come on
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Brady has a four point lead on LaVar Jonas. You're
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I'm out, come on, now, let's do this alright. He
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do it, all right, you guys, We're gonna start off
from obviously Commanders at Eagles Jalen Hurts first touchdown of
the game. Will it be a passing touchdown, a rushing touchdown,
or no touchdown at all? Passing I'm gonna say passing. Yeah,
I'll go with passing. What are you gonna go with? Lee? Well,
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I was gonna go passing, but I'm gonna go rushing.
I think jan Is gonna rush. See you really couldn't
you really get a screwed Brady and just said no
touchdown at all? That would have been fantastic. Oh alright,
you guys, moving on on this one. Who has the
new report on Dan Snyder being a bad owner sometime
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before the game? Will it be ESPN, TMZ, Pro Football
Talk or no new report on that at all? Oh? Yeah,
you know what said that again? Who's going to have
a new report on Dan Snyder being a bad owner,
new report as in what like so it reported? I
gotta understand the game is on ESPN tonight, right, Yes,
they're going to be the ones who talk about it. Yeah,
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well but see if you've noticed, there's been like a
new Dan Snyder report that's come out like every week,
and with them being featured in prime time, they're going
to talk about Do you think ESPN will be the
ones that have the report? I mean, if it's a
new I don't know that it will be a new report,
but they will report on latest latest happenings. Does qualify
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now it's going to be a new report. I'm gonna
go with no new report. I'm going with no new
report to I don't know what we're gonna talk about it,
but they're not gonna it's not gonna be new developments.
Like what else could they possibly roll out at this?
We all get it. He's a bad owner, probably not
a great guy. I don't have to tell you. Come on,
so what are you gonna go with? Lee? I'm going
pro football talk? Pro Football Talk is gonna have something,
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all right, that's good something it's gonna be manufactured. Yeah,
it's gonna be manufactured. I'm not going to buy that.
But I mean if he wins, if he wins, if
Brady wins off of this because Lee is correct, then
I'm upset about that. You know what, I'm changing the
pro football talk to. I'm not is gonna be manufactured.
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I'll stick with mine. No, no new report. Oh your boy,
what's his name? What's his name? Florio? Florio? He's gonna
be the guy. Go ahead, guys, who has the most
rushing yards in the game. Miles Sanders, Brian Robinson, Jalen Hurts,
her Antonio Gibson. Oh, Brian Robinson, I'm going Jalen Hurts, guys.
Taylor Heineke has thrown an interception in every game he's
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is who's the quarterback? Is it just? I don't know,
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kind of hard to tell. I mean, it's it's very
uh number three. It's very like cartoonish like like kind
of almost like by almost it could be an Eagles.
It looks like it's an Eagles guy. I don't think
he mattered. Like they don't have a name on him.
He doesn't have a real but I have my name
on dad. Look at you. You've got murals of yourself
in Mexico. That's awesome, pretty cool, right, Yeah, yeah, I've
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done a few things. Yeah I haven't. What's that like,
what's what's it like being famous? It's got to be famous.
I'm not famous, but I have done a few things.
I have impacted lives and that's that's what's more important
than me. Yeah. Yeah, Well it's like, uh, I walk
around with Brady Quinn at the horse races in Kentucky. Well,
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he's got to stop because everybody wants to get a
picture with him. And I'm just kind of sitting with him,
like like we just did a show together, and it's like, uh, hey, yeah, Brady,
can I get a picture of you? And hey, buddy,
can you hold the phone and take the picture? You
have no problem. Here's here's the picture. So listen, I
mean you, you Embrady a couple of celebrities and then
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you got you know, the gum on your shoe over here.
All right, So let's get into a situation in the
National Football League. This is not a great situation whatsoever.
And that situation belongs in Las Vegas, where the Raiders
are not good and it's only getting worse. And so
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we talked about the Jeff Saturday aspect and the Indianapolis
Colts going to Las Vegas and winning that game yesterday
and what that could do for the coaching profession because
you got a lot of people upset that have now
found out, Oh so maybe you don't need to spend
all those hours, you know, inside the facility. You can
actually go in rally a team and win a big
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road game. The flip side of that conversation is now
what happens with the Raiders, And it took a whole
different tone when afterwards Derek Carr, their quarterback, spoke with
the media and he got a little misty eyed. Is
there in any way to disconnect with what you're trying
to do in this new staff as far as the system,
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you know, I don't think so. Um. I love I
love Josh, I love our coaches. They've had nothing but success,
way more success than I've ever had. You know, I'm sorry,
sorry for being emotional. I'm just piste off about some
of the things that a lot of us trying to
do just to practice, when we put our bodies through
just to sleep at night, and for that to be
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the result of all that effort, this is me off.
This is a lot of guys off. It's hard knowing
what some guys are doing, like I said, just to practice,
but they're putting in their body just to sleep at night,
like just so we could be there for each other.
And I wish everybody in that room felt the same
way about this place. And as a leader, that pisces
me off from being honest. I think the emotion of
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just nine years of stuff hit me today for how
much I really love this place and it's not gonna
change anything. I'm come here on my fight and compete
next week and that's what I'm gonna do. God, man,
is he like? Is he tearfully emotionally calling people out? Yeah,
that's what it was, right. I wish everybody was emotional
and and and and teary eyed and choked up about
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loving this place and wanting to win. Uh. And I
think Davante Adams had some similar comments afterwards to it.
There's something that's not working there, and it's easy to
just say that it's Josh McDaniels or you know, the
Josh McDaniel because they were in the playoffs last year
and that was with a coaching change. In all this
sum's off and either always starts from the top. Yeah,
(06:36):
I'm sorry, it always starts from the top. I just don't.
I don't think Josh McDaniels is going to be the
fall guy here. I know, I know that's the easy solution.
And everyone's saying, Josh McDaniels gotta go. Josh McDaniels has
gotta go. There's issues there in that locker room that
clearly are popping up, and now you've got Derek Carr
hold to a podium. Let me, let me, let me,
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Brady Quinn. You hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on Jonas, hold on, hold on Jonas.
Josh McDaniels added, losing to a coach that has no
experience and came off of the street to coach the team.
And also, by the way, this was against the Colts
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who tried to hire Josh McDaniels and he walked away
from the job a few years ago. A lot of irony.
And I'm just saying and I said, I said this
at the beginning of the show, but I did not, however,
take the other side of the conversation. I basically said,
there's one of two things, and I talked about the second,
which was Jeff Saturday had a plan, executed the plan,
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and now he's manifesting his plan. The other side of
it is is that you gotta fire your head coach immediately.
If you're the Las Vegas Raiders, you have to fire
him a meeting. If you can allow a coach to
come off of the street, a guy, wait, let me
let me rephrase this. If you can allow a media
guy that used to play ball come off of the
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street now talking about all of the outrage and this
is egregious, and this is an abomination, and all these
things that people are saying about Jim Mercy hiring Jeff Saturday,
If all of those things are true, then Josh McDaniels
is the first victim, and and allowing a non qualified
(08:29):
person to come in and whoop a qualified person's ass. Yes,
he's gotta go. Yeah, yeah, if all intents of purposes,
everybody who loses to Jeff Saturday needs to lose their
job immediately because you're not qualified to coach. If you're
letting someone who has no experience and has had has
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had zero time sitting behind and learning and doing the
process and waiting and all these all other things that
everybody's up said about. Every coach that loses needs to
be fired. I wonder about the map. Yeah, I wonder
if a lot of the players in that locker room,
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we're really bothered that rich Pisaccio was not given an
opportunity to keep that job as head coach of the
Raiders and decided or not decided, but came into this
year with Josh McDaniels thinking why didn't we just stick
with the guy we had like that was Those are
difficult circumstances. Last years have no pros, have no time
(09:39):
to dwell on those things. We're too far in the
season for that to be what a pro would be.
I'm going to not play hard or I'm not like
we should have kept our coach from before. So what
do you think the problem is? Then? Do you think
it's the head? Do you think it is Whenever you
have so many different changes take place, it has to
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be management. It has to be the culture of of
the corporation, the culture of the company. That is the
reason why. Now where that disconnect is and why, I
don't know, but you do know. We saw what took
place with what Grooden and everything that how that will
all plant played out, And there could have been you know,
(10:20):
workplace issues that could have arose from from the what
are they the Raiders, that's right, from the Raiders organization.
So to me, I'm thinking it's higher up than that.
But again, higher up you're not making changes. You're not
changing an owner. The culture is the culture as long
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as the people who have created the culture are there.
So now within the culture, you're asking anyone who comes
in there GM, you know, marketers and advertisers, the media,
the GM, the coaches, the players. You're asking everyone who
comes into this culture to be able to make that
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culture a successful culture in terms of the product that
you're producing. And how do you do that knowing that
if you do those things, and it could be that
the culture has to change in order for the product
to change. Go figure, blow your mind on that one, right,
So if the culture isn't changing, but you're changing the GM,
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you're changing the coach, you're changing the players, but you
continue to get the same results, it's easy to track
to to what where it is where the problem exists.
But again, my question now becomes, or my statement is,
since we had all of this, this outrage and all
of these people upset about what what Jeff Saturday's hiring represented,
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and and Jim er say being irresponsible and being egregious
and all that he does beat Josh McDaniels. Yeah, his
team does beat Josh McDaniels. So now you got you
gotta up set Piste off emotional car and and his
and his press conference saying that he wishes people wanted
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to be here as badly as he did this and
that and the other. You have arguably the best receiver,
top three receiver in the National Football League, and from
all things I can see, he's healthy and you're still
getting messed up results. You have no more excuses. So
here's where the conversation is going to go. And I
I can already guarantee you this discussion is going to
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be had when the Jeff Saturday discussion comes up. The
people that were so down on the hiring of Jeff
Saturday are going to say, well, it was the Raiders, right,
So that's one part of the conversation that's gonna be
there out Well, it's the Raiders. Let's see what happens
next week. Let's see what happens the rest of the way.
This isn't sustainable the way Jeff Saturday was brought in.
So that's that's that part of the conversation when it
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comes to the Raiders. At some point, you you talk
about the constant because there's been a bunch of coaching changes. Well,
like one of the constants has been Derek Carr. And
I don't think this has anything to do so much
with Derek Carr as a player, because I think Derek
Carr is a good quarterback. I just wonder whether or
not guys in that locker room buy into him, Like
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whether or not guys in the locker room are like okay,
And now that you've got them calling out players and
emotionally doing so afterwards, I wonder how that's gonna land
with some of these players in the locker room. I
just listen. First of all, if I'm a player in
that locker room, I'm embarrassed that we just lost to
a dude that got hired off of the street and
he hasn't been in for more than what seven days? Yeah,
(13:35):
a few days, A few days, yea, and goes and
comes out and they win that. First of all, that's embarrassing. Secondly,
if I'm on that team, I am trying to figure
out why the hell are we losing? And we had
Davante Adams, Like, I don't get it. We got car
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we got Atoms, we got a pretty good defense, you
got Max Crosby, you got you got all these different
dudes that are pretty pretty freaking good players, Like this
was again Jacobs J Jacobs seving a good year. We
were talking about this being a conference where all four
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teams could possibly make it into the playoffs all four
and now they are like seller dwelling, like they're they're catfish.
They should be called the Las Vegas catfish because they're
they're they're scavenging off of the bottom. They're not they're
not going and getting it and and and and creating
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their own food. They're they're they're well, they are creating
their own food because they're scavenging off of the bottom.
Not just to me, it is confusing. It is confusing
to see how poorly this team is playing, especially with
all of the excitement of the brilliant mind of Aush
(15:00):
McDaniels coming in to be a part of of your
your your organization as the coach. I don't I don't
think this is a matter of they don't buy into car.
I think this is a matter of like trying to
figure out where the like you said, where the breakdown
and communication exists. Because to have all that talent to
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be able to be in games and actually have games one,
they're like literally a quarter and a half away from
having an opposite conversation take place on this team. They're
owing six and one score games go. Yeah, it's they've
given up the lead. I mean, do we have the
stat on that how many times have they given up
(15:42):
a lead? There's been several. There's been at least two
or three seventeen point leads that they've blown, so that
the defense has been shaky. Um, it's just it's not
great man. And and look, injuries are also part of
the prod. Darren Waller has been banged up all year,
Hunter Hunter, Renfroze banged up. But you have got Josh Jacobs,
you still got Davantae Adams, You've got Derek Carr, who's
(16:04):
more than capable quarterback. It's just something's wrong there, something's off.
It doesn't it doesn't make sense. And whether it's stair car,
whether it's Josh McDaniels, who knows, Maybe there's some bad
seeds in the locker room that that Derek Carr and
Davantae Adams are trying to weed out. I don't think
they fired Josh McDaniels. I don't think that happens. I
don't think they go that drastic here. But I do
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think keep putting a band aid over a wound that
needs internal Uh, what is it addressing? Yeah, you gotta
go into the wound. You gotta clean the wound out.
If there's if there's impurities and and stuff in there,
infection and stuff, you gotta get that out of there.
You gotta treat it from within. And as you treat
it from within, that that means you gotta take antibiotics.
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You gotta get this that another and then you you
clean it out and you stitch it up. But to
put a band aid over a festering uh type of
of a wound, you're not going to fix it. So
the answer isn't to just keep getting rid of your
quarterback or your coaches. It's not. The answer isn't to
keep getting rid of your players and trying to bring
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in new players. The answer is is looking in the mirror.
If you are the ones that have created this culture,
then if you want that culture to change, you have
got to take a look as into the mirror as
to see as to what needs to happen within the
culture of our workplace in order for our connection to
take place where the accountability and the ownership that should
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be there for the people that are putting that product
out there on the field can can feel good about
what it is that they're doing and where they're going,
that's not there, and that's why you fail. That's when
failure takes place. It's Two Pros and a Cup of
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. And I ask
you a quick question. Who lost worse Aaron Rodgers or
Davonte Adams. Who's the worst loser? Who's the bigger loser
here and them them not being together this year? I
would say, oh, Man, probably Rogers. I think he's feeling
(18:38):
the impact maybe a little bit more. Although you know,
Watson had a good game yesterday for the you know,
for the Green Bay Packers. So there's that. Let me
ask you this Was Davante Adams a Hall of Famer
before he left Green Bay? Yes, okay, I mean he
was on on on the path to being a Hall
(18:59):
of Famer. What I asked you, that's not what I
asked you. That's vastly different than what I asked you.
Was Davante Adams a Hall of Famer when he left
Green Bay? No, because he's still playing, so he's not
allowed to be in the Hall of Fame until five
years after he's retired. I would say, I can't say
he's a Hall of Famer right then and there. But
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if he had stayed in Green Bay, I feel more
if he were to retire today, is he going to
the Hall of Fame? Probably not, not long enough. So
he might have costed himself the opportunity to go to
the Hall of Fame by leaving Green Bay. Possibly now
he's but look, he's having good performances with the Raiders
Hall of Fame performances. Yeah, and especially when they're losing
(19:45):
that Hall of Fame. Um. I mean, but look, and
Antonio Brown was on his way to being a Hall
of Famer and then you know, something's got in the way.
Later in his career, some other things you know, so,
so Antonio Brown is no longer going to be in
the Hall of Fame. Let me just can I throw
I just want to ask you a theory, all right,
and you tell me if you buy into this at all.
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So we're talking about the Raiders and what's what's wrong
with the Raiders. They've got all this talent um, Josh
McDaniel's new head coach. There, there was a lot of
optimism going into the season, and yet here we are.
They just lost to Jeff Saturday, who has been on
the job for like seventy two hours and just walked
off a set at ESPN, and he's got Dan Orlovsky
(20:30):
basically campaigning for a job or a raise at ESPN
to try and join his staff. And we're trying to
figure out, so what's going on with the Raiders. And
then you're hearing Derek Carr talking about guys that maybe
aren't bought in. Davante Adams was saying the same thing
post game, guys aren't totally bought in. They're trying to
send a message to somebody. Let me throw this at you.
(20:52):
It is Las Vegas, Vegas, and you've got a lot
of young guys in Las Vegas. Even if they're not young,
it's Las Vegas. And all I know is when I
made a bunch of money as a bus boy at
t g I Fridays, the first thing I was thinking
is I'm going to Vegas and I would lose it all,
but damn I'd have a good time. Do you think
(21:15):
maybe being in Las Vegas is starting to eat up?
Is that some of the guys on that when they
started having issues. I'm just saying, like, do you think
me now? Follow me? Is that when the issue started
to arise with the writers meaning what the players that Well,
(21:37):
That's what I'm asking is, do you think is it
couldn't be making it worse because you have. If I'm
in Oakland and we suck and we stink, what are
you doing? You're going home, You're watching film, You're ordering out,
or you're going out to get some fine dining, you
(22:00):
know what I mean. Like, but where do you really
find yourself getting into anything where it's like I'm gonna
go hit the beach today. If I'm a RAM and
we're having a bad season, you could go to to
Manhattan Beach, you can go to beaches, you could go
get away and go to a nice little resort in
Orange County. I was at that game, and like, there's
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a lot of seats that were empty. You know, there
are other things to do. You don't have a whole
lot of things to do in Oakland. So I'm now
in Vegas and we're not playing very well. Well, you
know what, I bet you this after parties, still living.
I bet you there's there's things to do during the
course of the week. And I'm still a raider. You
still can get the results you want as a pro
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even if you're losing, because you're still a pro. Like, oh,
there there's a there's a Vegas Raider, right like I
just I wonder and obviously you know this better than
I would. But losing in certain places isn't as bad.
It's not as bad. It affect you differently because you're
losing in Green Bay, like them losing in Green Bay.
That's where you're at, and you're losing that like I
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might want to like end it, but I'm gonna end
it all. But but if you lose in Vegas, you
walk outside the stadium and there's still a whole another
life and there is anything you want at any time.
It's twenty four hours. And for anybody that's never been
to Vegas, or for anybody that just that doesn't understand,
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it's not a far drive from out here in Los Angeles.
And I can tell you there were plenty of options
for a bus boy. I can't imagine what the options
would be like. There's no drive for them that they
I mean, it's all walkable. It's just you literally any
anywhere you want to go, anything you want, at all times.
And so I just wonder if the Death Star is
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connected to the bear Garden at uh what what is it?
The MGM spot? What is it called? Uh? Oh? The
uh what's the name of them towers? There's like two
different towers and one is connected like you can walk.
There's a walkway you can go from lux Or to
Excalibur to the to New York, New York to MGM,
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like you can's the other one? What's the other? Uh?
Casino that that MGM bought out? They bottom big towers.
I can't remember. But the point is, you're right there
is the point. You're right there, you lose and it's like,
and I wonder if who are the most vocal guys
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about this. Derek car Davante Adams. Both those guys are married,
they got kids. Maybe they're not out, you know, doing
the thing. Of course they're not. Yeah, you know, just
they just go straight home and they hang out with
their family. All right. We're not trying to add anybody here,
but I just want that's outing anyone. That's just life.
I wonder if those guys are looking at you, if
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you took it on your chin and you took an
ale and I I get I'm either in Vegas or
I land back in Vegas and I'm a rookie. That
that is hell. You don't even have to say. You
don't even have to give the requirements. I don't have
to say a single rookie you might have a girlfriend
who cares, right, like, let's be honest here, like Desharn
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Watson had a girlfriend the whole time. So so what
I'm saying is there doesn't happen to be any qualifiers
when lose or draw. Some of these cats is knowing
what they're gonna do during the week before the game,
after the game. And I just wonder if Derek Carr
and Davante Adams are looking at these guys going down,
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You're not you're not losing and making a good point
here and letting it affect you the way that it
affects us, because you're losing and thinking to yourself, you
have but you know what, so and so serving Prime
Rib until midnight and then we're staying up until seven
am afterwards. You're making a good point, Jonas. I mean,
it definitely could get worse based off of the environment
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that they're in. Because they stunk in Oakland. I mean,
I'm taking the stunk in Oakland, but to stink in Vegas,
I mean, look, the dude lost his career because he
was being irresponsible. Like you're being irresponsible, you lose your career,
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and somebody lost their life, and somebody lost their life
and a dog did I mean that was that? I
mean that's you're talking about an environment that if you're
not laser sharp focused, if you don't, I mean, d
C is like that. It's not like it's not like Vegas,
but there's some place of New York is like that.
(26:48):
I played in both them places. Believe you me. They
show a lot of love to their teams. I remember
talking with a buddy of mine about this. When the
Cubs finally want to World Series in Chicago. I said,
that's oh man, that's it. What do you mean they
just want a world series, the get all this young talent.
When you're walking around and you know you can have
whatever you want whenever you want it because you were
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the team that brought a world series to that place
for the first time in over a hundred years. Have
fun and they haven't been close. You do that in Vegas, though,
that that's gotta be. That's like you're almost on like
some type organized crime type stuff. If you come walk in,
they're gonna put a table down with some table like
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you're gonna get. You're gonna get the best you know,
back backs, uh, backstage opportunities to meet talents. You're gonna
get invited to all of them. You want and your
and your and your twenty four years old, I can't
even imagine. I was a bus boy, got in trouble.
That should motivate you to want to win, though, like
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that can't motivate you to be a loser. I don't
want to walk around and be a loser. I don't
want to be on a team and be like I
don't care about practicing hall Like my mind is on
the casinos or the show girls or anything like that,
or whatever it is that your poison is that you
would choose in Sin City. I would want to be
like the best I know. When I was in Washington,
(28:12):
I went out. When I first got there, people was like,
yo far far Var Var Var Var, Like, I mean,
I ain't even been here yet, and y'all calling me
var like l A and Var. Nobody called me LaVar.
It was Var in l A and the And immediately
I'm like, I'm in Chocolate City. I'm Chocolate. Let's make
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this work. Let's make this work. And any time I
got tired, I can sit here and tell you all
of the cool things about think about your family, and
think about where you came from and the things you overcame.
Sometimes I kept jumping rope and lifting weights because I
knew if I played and I bawled out and I
went out in d C, I was gonna be the man.
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I'm there. Michael Jordan is playing on the Wizards. I
I'm seeing all the loveday saw him. M J I'm
sitting there thinking to myself, I'm the number one draft
pick for this team. They're coming out of the playoffs.
All I gotta do is do what I do, and
I'm gonna be the dude up in here. I'm not
coming out there to lose. I'm not not doubt and
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I'm not thinking about going to d C Live or
going to v I P or going to Zanzibar or
going to to to K Street or anything like that.
I'm thinking about winning the games and being the best
that I can be and trying to make Pro Bowls
and get all Pro bids. That has to be the
mindset that starts with the person. You can't ever blame
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your environment on your lack of of thriving and success
as it applies to you personally. Now maybe as a team,
but personally I can't buy that. Yeah, it's uh, it's
it's not not a good sight in Las Vegas. But listen, now,
if you're gonna lose a game and lose it poorly,
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to laugh. Here's the situation. Brady Quinn obviously not here,
So you're gonna be making Brady Quinn's picks for him. Yeah,
so this isn't one of these all we we just
give him a past. She's not here, No, no, no no.
If you don't show up, somebody's got to make your picks.
And so Lead the lab is going to be picking
for Brady Quinn, which means Brady's gonna blame you for
any loss. Was our record this past week? Uh, Jonas
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actually won last week, though you were right there, Lav
you went three and two last week. Yeah, come on
here in the mix of the seasoning, and right now,
Brady has a four point lead on LaVar Jonas. You're
right there, one game behind that, so five five from hey,
but he's that here, we can really make up some grounds.
I'm out, come on, now, let's do this alright. He
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was going to get lucky for at least, so let's
do it, all right, you guys, We're gonna start off
from obviously Commanders at Eagles Jalen Hurts first touchdown of
the game. Will it be a passing touchdown, a rushing touchdown,
or no touchdown at all? Passing I'm gonna say passing. Yeah,
I'll go with passing. What are you gonna go with? Lee? Well,
(32:56):
I was gonna go passing, but I'm gonna go rushing.
I think jan Is gonna rush. See you really couldn't
you really get a screwed Brady and just said no
touchdown at all? That would have been fantastic. Oh alright,
you guys, moving on on this one. Who has the
new report on Dan Snyder being a bad owner sometime
(33:17):
before the game? Will it be ESPN, TMZ, Pro Football
Talk or no new report on that at all? Oh? Yeah,
you know what said that again? Who's going to have
a new report on Dan Snyder being a bad owner,
new report as in what like so it reported? I
gotta understand the game is on ESPN tonight, right, Yes,
they're going to be the ones who talk about it. Yeah,
(33:40):
well but see if you've noticed, there's been like a
new Dan Snyder report that's come out like every week,
and with them being featured in prime time, they're going
to talk about Do you think ESPN will be the
ones that have the report? I mean, if it's a
new I don't know that it will be a new report,
but they will report on latest latest happenings. Does qualify
(34:01):
now it's going to be a new report. I'm gonna
go with no new report. I'm going with no new
report to I don't know what we're gonna talk about it,
but they're not gonna it's not gonna be new developments.
Like what else could they possibly roll out at this?
We all get it. He's a bad owner, probably not
a great guy. I don't have to tell you. Come on,
so what are you gonna go with? Lee? I'm going
pro football talk? Pro Football Talk is gonna have something,
(34:23):
all right, that's good something it's gonna be manufactured. Yeah,
it's gonna be manufactured. I'm not going to buy that.
But I mean if he wins, if he wins, if
Brady wins off of this because Lee is correct, then
I'm upset about that. You know what, I'm changing the
pro football talk to. I'm not is gonna be manufactured.
(34:44):
I'll stick with mine. No, no new report. Oh your boy,
what's his name? What's his name? Florio? Florio? He's gonna
be the guy. Go ahead, guys, who has the most
rushing yards in the game. Miles Sanders, Brian Robinson, Jalen Hurts,
her Antonio Gibson. Oh, Brian Robinson, I'm going Jalen Hurts, guys.
Taylor Heineke has thrown an interception in every game he's
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played this season. Does he throw one tonight? Yes? Or no?
Let's say yes. I'm gonna say yes as well. Philadelphia
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I'll go Liberty Bill. Okay, So there it is. Yeah,
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