November 15, 2022 • 38 mins
The Packers are back on track, shaking up the NFC Playoffs race. Jim Irsay takes a victory lap after Jeff Saturday’s debut win and the guys play another edition of "Would You Rather…?"
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had a big time game in the NFC this weekend,
and it was the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers,
and the Green Bay Packers get it done, and the
Dallas Cowboys are throwing fitch. You got Mike McCarthy thrown headsets.
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You got Mike McCarthy talking about people having red asses
because they were calling calling players out. Dalton Schultz and
Micah Parsons, we are calling players out in the locker road,
you know. And so so there's you know, everybody seemed
like they were in a good mood for Green Bay
except for this one snippet that was seen on television
in which Aaron Rodgers was showing some frustration with Matt Lafleur. So,
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of course the media and Green Bay is gonna ask
Aaron Rodgers about this, and he's going to have to
answer questions about this little interaction with his head coach.
And here's how it went. We're so upset about as
the last drive regulation. They're coming off every single play call,
probably so a reason those play calls were upsetting to you. Yeah,
I feel like we were like thirty yards from and
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in the game and regulation, and also felt like it
was two minutes, so I was going to be calling
knows and I was in a pretty good rhythm. Obviously
didn't have a ton of attempts tonight, but it felt
like I was in pretty good rhythm and felt like
I threw the ball just about exactly what I wanted
to tonight, And so I want a chance to go
win the game. Errand's back. A Rod's back, Baby, he's back,
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Tom Brady's back. Everybody trying to shovel dirt on those
guys they are back. That's the kind of piste. Yeah,
come on, man, let's just sticking in my head, like
it only takes one, you know, it only takes one
of those games where he gets that feeling back, Like
did you hear how he sounded different? Do you hear
how he talked about throwing the football though He's like
pretty much to put it wherever I wanted, Like people
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out there got out of standard. And I learned this
at a young age pitching, Like there are some days
that are just different where you go out there and
you can hit whatever spot with whatever pitch, you can
throw that football and whatever window you want and you
just you got it like you got it. And there
are some days where it's not like that. And it
feels like the large majority of the season for the
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Packers has been that. And I don't know if it
has more to do with the fact that, you know,
Aaron didn't have to throw it as much. You know,
they ran the football. They tried to highlight their best player,
who is Aaron Jones. They tried to highlight him more
and there in their run game and just trying to
get him touches. But that seems to me to be
the formula. And I don't know if the the Watson
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who had a couple of drops early but came back
made a nice grab like maybe that's gonna be that
you welcome to the NFL, you know, rookie moment for
him where he starts to play the way they're hoping
he's who want to play. But there is something to
be said for one, how they do their tumnute operations.
Not every team is like that. You heard him talking
about calling plays. You know, when you in a West
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Coast system or you if you played long enough, sometimes
those play calls will let you call it because you're
not changing personnel, right, You're gonna keep those three wide receivers,
one side and one running back out there. And you
have as good of a feel as the coordinator does
as far as what you're getting in, what you're seeing
and what's probably gonna work. So you might as well
allow someone, if they're capable of that, to go call
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those plays. So it's unique that every team is like
that in a two minute drive. And on top of that,
just hearing like the the sense of like, yeah, dude,
I'm still Aaron Rodgers, Like if we have a chance
to end this in regulation, like, that's what I've build
my career on, my my legend on is being able
to go down at the end of games in a
two minute drive and end this thing. So I think
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I would be frustrated as well if I was in
his shoes. Not even taken into consideration the fact that
you are going up against your old head coach, there
is a certain degree of, Hey, I want to make
sure I stick it to him too, and I'm gonna
be the one that has control of how we go
about doing it. So so you could definitely see in
sense like maybe there's some frustration there but I think
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this is more of one of those all right, like
they got that win under their belt. Maybe that's the
catalyst now for them moving forward to start climbing back
into the NFC playoff picture. I think that the Sam
Buca Showbuca show boying, Boying, boying is wearing off. Yeah,
I think it's wearing off, right because early on in
the year, right when you were here Aaron Rodgers interview,
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he would you know, it would be more like, yeah,
well it happens, and it will be going, you know,
in the right direction soon, like very subdued, very very calm,
cool the r E L a X. Relax, Aaron Rodgers,
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this puffy bottom Aaron Rodgers right here. Listen to him again.
Listen to him again. What were you so upset about?
As a last rond of regulation, they're coming off every
single play call. Probably were upsetting. Yeah, I feel like
we were like thirty yards from all. You can stop it.
You don't even have to hear the whole thing. It's
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not the tone, it's the words. Well, there is base
in but there's base in his voice too, right, it's
not it's not it's not floating away and light as
a cloud. Flow like the water, like there's base in
his voice and it is He's sharp. He is sharp
with what he's saying like this sounds like an Aaron Rodgers.
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That's like, Okay, I'm gonna hit the throttle now. Now.
I don't know how this all plays out, but if
you have a motivated Aaron Rodgers, there isn't a better
guy in the game. When you have a motivated it
sounds like no, iowa Ayahaska. Is that what's called iowakaahayahaska system? Yeah? Well,
if it's out of his system, this sounds like a
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guy who's drinking steel reserve. Like different tone. I understand
what the implications are, and I gotta go out there
and make a stay. They're going to smash Tennessee on
Thursday night. I'm calling it right now. This is gonna
be a smash job. The Titans have zero chance in
this game. Up, you guys a question there. They're at
four wins, the Vikings are at eight. If Aaron Rodgers somehow,
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some way finds a way to get Green Bay back
into it, is it better that they started this way
and he pulled them back and showed a different dimension
of how right I mean, I don't. I don't know.
I mean because some would say if he's great, they
don't have to do this anyway, But just to see
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if he's able to climb out of this with with
Green Bay, I mean, do you look at him like,
does it prove even more of the point of his
So I mean I also think just overall, you don't
want to be playing your best football and September and October.
You'd like to build up November December. And that was
talking about this yesterday before Monday Night Football. It's been
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great watching what the Eagles have done. The problem is
is what happens if this loss gives the formula for
how to beat the Eagles moving forward and they end
up stumbling and following and they end up being a
you know, a ten or a level win team like
they're adjusted win loss total before last night's loss. I think,
if I'm not mistaken, I know Jonas always has these
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pulled up, but I think it was like fourteen and
a half because if you look at the rest of
the Eagles schedule, they don't play I'm an opponent with
a winning record until Week thirteen, where they have to
play the Titans. So if if you're looking at the
way you'd like to build into going into the playoffs,
you know, you'd like to be able to play your
best football at the end. If you go back to
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the year they won their Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers
as their quarterback, And I was talking to to a
j about this, He's like, he had the last three weeks.
It was like sudden death for us. But we had
to literally win the last three weeks just to have
a shot to be a wild card team. And then
we obviously had to go the long way on the
road to go in there. And eventually when the when
the super Bowl, and that's that's you know, that's how
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it sometimes works out for for certain teams. We don't
always see the number one seeds, number two seeds, you know,
end up taking advantage of that. So that might be
the position that they're in. But I think considering the
youth on the outside of wide receiver and some of
the other spots, yeah, maybe if they build up towards
this at the end of December. We're talking about looking
at the Packers a lot differently. But that Super Bowl year,
the Bears the final week of the season had nothing
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to play for and Levey Smith played all his starters
against the Packers the entire game because he wanted no
difference in the outcome, because he wanted to they beat
them eventually champion. He wanted to try and knock him
out of the playoffs. So they Yeah, they were playing
for their season every single week down the stretch. And
then they go on and win that Super Bowl. But
how about because they lost base twice in what four weeks? Ye? Yeah,
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I mean listen, I mean, look, you know it happens.
Was in Chicago for that loss, by the way, Yeah, no, Lie,
I was there. My my sister was like, hey, you
want to come watch. I was like yeah, of course.
I was like, no, I'll come up there and hang
out with you. And actually I won't get into too
many specifics, but I was sitting there and then like
some of the other wives came in because she ended up, um,
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they had just had their first child, so I was
really going to kind of help her with Lenning, their
eldest daughter and and all that while she was in
Chicago when she ended up coming back to the hotel.
So we're watching the game there, a couple other wives
came over of of you know, players in the team.
One of the wife started like breastfeeding, and I was
just like, well, okay, this is this is like, this
is more than I asked for out of this whole trip.
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And she was perfectly comfortable with that. I was not.
I was like, I'm gonna leave the room and just
go watch the rest of the game in my hotel
room bowl when that happened, and my goodness, yeah, what
what was? We were all caught very much off guard,
but none of us looked away. It's natural. Well I
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not just like, it's definitely natural, but there's also a
natural fascination with like I just met you and now
you're doing this. It seems like an intimate act. You know,
you gave me a very very interesting memory there. And
I'll tell you what it's like. You know how in
the movies, it's like they turned a second into like
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five minutes, and it's like a whole entire story within
the story plays out and then then you come back
and you realize that you literally we're staring. Yeah, that's
that's what happened in that situation. I mean, and I'll
just say perfect ten, perfect ten out of ten. And
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the judgment was made of being a perfect ten. Before
any of that had even transpired, respectfully, No, no, just respectfully, though,
it was like everybody's talking da da dah yeah yeah,
m dad, Yeah that's that. Yeah yeah, I god, dang,
no silence, crickets, nothing. And then you realized every single
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person that was talking, trash and talking had lost their
thought the same exact way in that moment. So there
you go. Huh. So, while there will be no shaming
of doing it, you just have to accept what happens
when you do it. I mean, when you whip out
a weapon of mass destruction in front of a whole
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bunch of wolves in the wild, I mean, what do
you think? What do you think is gonna happen? He
needs some milk, He need some milk. That baby had
everybody jealous, that god, that everybody was looking at you baby.
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Stop wait, maybe not, maybe you should. You gotta eat.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Speaking of adjusted
wind totals, what do you think the Packers adjusted wind
total is? Now? Oh, it's double, it's more than half
and half their four and six and so the Packer
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nine adjusted wind total is seven and a half. That's it.
Their schedules so they've got the short I was. I
was gonna say brutal, But if you want to go
with that, that's fine. They're at Philly, they're at Chicago,
they've got the Rams, they're at the Dolphins, they've got
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the Vikings, and they finished with the Lions. It feels
like they're gonna be huming. They're gonna be battling for
eight to nine wins a year that I would take over. Yeah,
I take that. Ain't gonna get it done. I take
the over. But that's that's like right around the right
number what they predicted. We should be real though, they're
not making the playoffs. I don't think at nine and eight.
I mean, did you want odds on that too? Whatever
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you want here, I mean I've got I've got the
odds for yet three to one. Yes, is plus three
to one to make the playoffs. So there a minus?
What for Dallas? Right now? What is it for Dallas? Um?
When you want me to veg out for you or
what's that called layout for you? That vege? You know,
a veg out means chill out? Okay? What what what
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was your meaning? Now? You know? I was I was
in health class. I think the word you're looking for
was layout. Layout. So the Dallas Cowboys to not make
the playoffs is sixteen to one to not make the playoffs.
That's not bad, right, No, that is really bad. Like
like you're you're basically saying they're they're going to make
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the playoffs. So basically ten dollars, when's your rolls, Royce?
If Dallas, I wouldn't bet that they're not gonna make it.
I don't think they're gonna make it, man, I think
they're making it. What's the Giants? Uh? The New York Giants.
Let me just go ahead and be vamped formula. But
the way I used to not not to get off
on this tangent, but if you looking for a Coach
of the Year candidates is Brian It's over. It's over right,
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it's not even closed a three to one Giants or
minus three hundred Yes to the Kings coach. Yeah, they're
going to the playoffs. No, Kevin O'Connell's done great too.
I just think if you look at to me where
the Giants were last, how this organization has been looked
at in comparison, like you say, Roberts Lava. Well, but
the difference there is he's been there a couple of
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years now. It's like he's had time to build this up.
And so I look at it and said, I don't know.
The Giants are like a turnaround from a turnaround team,
and it's the same. Yeah, and it's the same with
the quarterback. They don't want seriously like that. It's over.
Dave Ball has won this dump truck Nuts is gonna
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win Coach of the Year, and it's well deserved. I
mean under where at the at the end of the break,
but I mean, here we go again, right, if we
got the Giants going in, and I really believe it's
going to be the Eagles that wins the East, and
if it's not, it's probably going to be the Giants,
which would put the Eagles in a second slot. So
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we're assuming that the Cowboys will be that that fourth
or that third, uh wild card team. Do you want
me to give you what the playoff picture would currently
be right now? All right? If the playoffs were today, Okay,
in the NFC, the number one c would still be
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the Philadelphia Eagles via the tiebreak and they beat Minnesota
earlier in the year. Minnesota would be at two. Seattle
is at the top of the NFC West, the three
Tampa's the top of the NFC South. Now the next
three teams through wild card teams the Giants at five,
the Cowboys at six, and at the seventh CT at
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five and four they would be the next team. The
bubble teams are the Washington Commandos, the Packers at four
and six, Falcons, Cardinals, Lions, y. So the more interesting
sides the a f C. All right, the entire all right,
the entire a f C East is in the playoffs
right now. If if it was starting to start today,
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the Chiefs would get to buy they're the number one seed,
and then it starts off with the Dolphins that's as
the two seed, the Jets as the five seed, Bills
as a sixth seed, Patriots as the seventh seed. How
about that? The entire I would feel cheated? Um, how
do you pull them all from the same division like that?
By the way, they haven't played each other Seattle, so
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basically the Cowboys as a stands right now, would have
to travel to Seattle for that playoff game. You know,
the last time they played in Seattle, Tony Roma had
an issue with that that snap and they could have
won the game. I mean, that's the catch game to
catch gate. Well, no, that was the that was that.
Now that was at the Packers. Yeah this yeah, well
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so listen, paid man, listen. They aren't going to the playoffs. Wow,
you heard me say it at the beginning of the year.
I'm saying a double land down at the midway point,
just after the midway point. I can't, I can't. I mean,
I can't buy it. I would. I would encourage everyone.
I would encourage everybody to buy and lay some money.
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The Packers, I honestly thought they were gonna be further
down on that list. It's going to be the Packers
that slide in and that last wild card spot because
right because of as of right now, it probably because
here's what's gonna end up happening. And it might not
even hold am I say, to take the Packers in
the playoffs or not? Yeah, but hold on, But it
might not even be the Packers. You know who it
might be. It might be the Seahawks. It might be
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the Seahawks that take that last wild card spot because
the Niners are going to take it over in the West.
You watch what I tell you, Niners are gonna take
over in the West, and it's going to either be
it's going to be the Seahawks that end up number
two and they're going to get that last wild card spot.
And that's the great thing about the playoffs that you
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same time. We'll tell you who that is. That's next.
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Did I just break my heads? Did I just break
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my damn headphones? Come on, man, it's broke. We're good
to go. Brady, Now there's broke. Just get some tape.
You'll be all right. Yeah, put some winds on it.
Good everything. By the way, do you think windex smells good? Uh,
it's distinctive. I wouldn't say it smells good. Yeah. I
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don't know what purple stuff smells good? What fabulosa? Yeah? Yeah,
that stuff does smell good. What do you think smells
better w D forty or windex? Oh? W D forty Yeah,
I agree, not even close. Something about w D forty. Yeah,
you talked about it a lot. What is it? I
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don't know? Trying to like, no, no, what is w
D forty? I know what it is? But just refresh me.
Is that liquor store open? Maybe they might have something
you like sprayed on your bike chains. Yeah, it's like
a for rust things like that ore oil. They got
everything You've been to that liquor store they got, not
like not been to that liquor store. When you're ripping
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on people who are tremendously ashy and and lotion, just
won't do you use w D forty? Really? I'm not
sure about you. I personally don't you know, go to
the liquor store to get w D four home depot,
lows ace, something like that, just saying if you were
out here. Some people call alcohol oil, you know, some
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a man can get. That that, Um, let me list
some time clear Okay, that that was your segue? Yeah,
I mean look, I don't know alright, that was your segway. Yeah, okay, alright,
that's what we're doing here. This is this is this
is alright. So, um, I'm gonna read a tweets. You
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guys have to guess who sent this tweet. It's somebody
in the NFL seef you guess who said this tweet?
All right, here we go, all you critics, you criticize
all of us in the NFL. For losing. When we
make moves to win, you act so righteous. Who you
crap in? Just win baby? Who's that Al Davis? That's Jimmy,
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that's Jim Mercy. Jimmy, yeah, Mercy baby. Perfections, guys, So
I'm a captain. It would have been way better like
out here. You understand this. Why the hell did they
bench Matt Ryan in the first place and whose decision was,
Because what's really messed up about this is if you're
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Jimmrcy and you told Frank Reich, I want to play
Sam Elinger, and then you bench him for two games,
and in that span of two games, you fire your
offensive coordinator who wasn't even calling plays, You fire the
guy you just told to do that, who ends up
in the fall guy, and then you bring in one
of your, as Joe Thomas said, drinking buddies to then
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be the head coach who probably walks in the door
and goes, hey, if I'm gonna do this, I want
to put the best guys out there in the field.
So I'm playing Matt Ryan if he's healthy, which that
was part of the that was kind of part of
the back store. I don't know that a lot of
people touched on. Matt Ryan was actually has actually been
banged up, so he felt healthy enough obviously able to go,
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and he was able to start and help him get
a victory over Las Vegas. But if Jim Ursay had
had basically told Frank Wright to bench or sitting Matt
Ryan for sam Ellinger in the first place, to me,
this whole situation is jacked up. That's a big if
you say it is, because if you're gonna lose your job,
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then I'm going to play who I'm going to play
on the way out the door. Here's here's the problem.
Though I'm not sitting. I don't. I don't think Frank
Right thought he was losing his jack. I think if
they if they're telling you to do something, you do
it regardless of the outcome. How is that going to
fall on you? Then I'm talking about that. They specifically
said when Matt Ryan was benched, this isn't just about injury.
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This is a long term benching. They're gonna go with
sam Ellinger And they said, quote, we're excited to see
what sam Ellinger has got. So you handcuffed the coach
in place with the roster move that was that was
jimmercy and Frank Reich who bo said those things. So
you handcuff him while he's got the job, and the
second he's out the door, then you then you open
things up and say, all right, you can make whatever.
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So here's the problem with that. If Frank speaks out
they never getting another job. What does that? What does
that do for you? And how badly does that? So
that's where like he's you're always bitter off not saying anything. See,
And I really do think that Jim Murcay, I think
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Frank Rank was on the clock when Carson Wentz didn't
work out, because think Carson Wentz was a Frank right guy.
He sold him on the idea of trading for Carson
Wyantz and making the move. And then when they melted
down in that final game of the season in Jacksonville,
I think Jim Mursay never really forgave him for it,
and he was on the clock and and to put
him in that spot though, and Frank Gig was nothing
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but but classy about it and not a surprise to anybody.
Can have moved the goal post on what Jim Ursay
was quoted saying, what we listened to him the sound bite.
I'm just saying, y'all moved the goal post? How do
we move it? Because we should be talking about, as
Q would say, the rail story that exists here from
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what Jim er Say said, and it was the brilliance
of Jeff Saturday as a head coach of the Indianapolis Colts.
I don't know if you heard his postgame speech. He
basically just thanked everyone else for doing all the work.
He was just kind of that, that's that's what a
real hit coach is supposed to do. Thank all the
people that he's I don't doubt that, but I also
really believed it. I was like, he just got there.
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He's probably not doing a whole lot of Uh. I
believe changing. That's why they won't you, because they believe
Jeff Saturday. Jim Mercy, he's he does he know that
he's got Philadelphia this week? Does I'm taking the points.
I'll tell you what I'm saying. I'm riding this gravy
train go bottom. Look what we have in this past week.
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Washington can't stop the run. Jeff Saturday's gotta running football again. Yes,
Jonathan Taylor was getting say, I bet they get like
eight a half point. You got a puffy bottom Philadelphia Eagles,
I don't care. I'll take those points. You don't you
know can win. I just don't think they gonna cover.
You don't think Nick Sirianni getting a little bit of
revenge for the coach that gave him his gig, Frank Reich.
You're gonna do my guy like that, and then he's
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gonna go back and he's gonna he's gonna write the
create these like little storylines. That's what it is. It's
a storyline. I'm a TV guy. That's what I did.
The line is eighty took it. Yeah, I'm taking the
points Indianapolis at home? What honestly, if this game, what
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are we saying on Monday? And just to be clear,
I'm not saying they're going to win. I'm just saying
I think they're going to come. I know you're saying that,
But what if they win? What are we saying Monday?
Guess what? If you're a former player, you have to
be at a bar, keep your cell phone on all right,
because you might get a call from one of your
previous owners that calls you up to coach a team.
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Can I just say this, Joe Thomas, ripping Jeff Saturday
the way that he did, and basically ripping Jimmer say
for giving Jeff Saturday the job and saying, well, you
know he's drinking, buddy, and all the all the other
things that he said, like Jeff Saturday in one game
matched Joe Thomas's win total in two years in Cleveland.
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Like the idea that there's two things are so okay.
It's just the idea that like, I know how this
is supposed to be and how this is supposed to go,
and the way you handled your coaching, sir, which was
an absolute abomination first of all, not though, but how
do we know until they actually give it a give
(28:07):
it a spin, and through one game it's worked and
they're probably gonna lose the rest of their games. But
they're saying now about what if they don't If you listen, Yeah,
if you listen though, to what Jimmers say said in
regards to bringing in Saturday as decisions behind it, YadA, YadA, YadA,
it was incredibly disrespectful to the guys on that staff,
like calling them how they're they're fearful, they're like curt
(28:31):
all of them, and it's like, dude, those guys are
still on this staff and basically a little bit just
like there is an element I wouldn't but think about
it perspective, you are like, is Darius Letter excuse me,
Shack Leonard not one of the best linebackers in the league,
(28:53):
and you're taking a year of his life in his
pro career and you're basically tossing a portion of that
into the hands of Jeff Saturday. He does have no
experience doing this, and yeah, there's there's a lot of
questions surrounding that. Like, I think it's a fair criticism
and regardless of how the rest of the season goes,
it's still a fair criticism. That's how I see it. Again,
(29:17):
the way I think Jimmer Say handled it is what
you can criticize because it was something where you could
have brought Jeff Saturday in and had him been part
of the coaching staff, but not made him the head
coach and had someone else like Bubba Intron or any
of the the candidates we kind of talked about and
allowed Jeff to have the impact he's gonna have, because
I think the impact he's having is probably gonna be
(29:38):
overstated to to a degree. Besides the fact he's got
the head coaching title. Like, they're not gonna make drastic
roster moves. It's not like you can make drastic changes
to their scheme outside of saying, hey, let's make sure
we have Jonathan Taylor run the football at least twenty
five plus times a game. But would his losing be overstated? See?
To me, it's what everybody know. He's he's set up
(29:59):
with all upside like it doesn't matter if you loses.
People probably expect him to that. And that's that's my
that's see, that's my point of it all. Regardless of
what side you fall on, regardless of what your criticisms are,
your opinions are of it, the bottom line is is
this man made a decision that that has shook up
the entire sports world. The entire sports I mean, for me,
(30:24):
I face value, Jeff Saturday being the head coach is
now one of the biggest storylines in the National Football League.
I'm certain they couldn't be more ecstatic that Jim er
Say made what would be considered to be a bone
hitted move. And how this plays out, because even if
(30:45):
he does win, if he continues to win, then is
it is it really considered to be I agree the
way he said it is one is one thing, but
when you think about if the results are the results
and you're winning, what are you gonna say, Like, what
are you going to say at the end, if the
man ends up having to winning season? What? What is?
(31:05):
What's the besaid? Well, I think the tough thing is
the process that you typically go to hire a head coach.
There's a Rooney rule in effect for a reason, and
you'd almost be And that's why there was some criticism
about just what they're doing. And when he talked about
hiring Jeff Saturday, he was saying, I hope it's for
longer than just this season. Well, you'd be skirting that
(31:27):
system that's set up to obviously give minority creates at
least an opportunity to interview or be up for it, right, which,
even if they don't get the job, it's still a
valuable experience for that next opportunity that you get. And
and I think the problem with a lot of people
is like, well, this is a loophole essentially, because regardless
of how he does this year, you still need to
technically go back through that process. Do you not, Yeah,
(31:50):
it's uh and by the way, plus nine dred if
you're interested in the Colts to win the division, if
you're going to fire, I mean, that's the time to
be able to just buy it now. Although guys, how
they're only one are they? Like? Two games back? He
had two games which I don't know. I might wait
a week and if they lose, if they lose this week,
(32:11):
value better value, that's gonna jump up. And then maybe
that's where you strike because you've got the Titans you play. Um,
maybe the odds want chance because they're in Green Bay
and you think they're gonna get mocked, smoked, absolutely smoked.
All right? It is too with bat wings on it? What?
What is that? It'll be parked outside the heat arena soon.
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What's cute? What is a bus with bat wings? Uh?
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Jimmercy Band? No hold on? Who's j D in the
straight And I got the right music for you? And
it's not as good? Yeah, I mean, at least I
know who Jim Marcy is, So I'm going. I'm going
Jim Mercy. Plus he might have Jeff Saturday plan instrument
(36:06):
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go listen to his band. That's true and open bar too.
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I got to start playing more trees. Sticking with Jim
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PF change gets smaller every time, dude, really free time
(36:49):
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No to bummer, Huh, I'll go y do yeah, because
he might hire me for a job. I mean he's
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if you went and hung out with him? It might
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Is that you look like a crackhead if you had
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could just see it the pretend like you must not
have had a bed. It's before man, a bed itch
you can. You gotta scratch. I've had a lot of
bad things. I just ignore him, just kind of fight
(37:57):
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for your back. And imagine if you had to scratch
the center of your back like all day long. Yeah
you you or your chest? You scratching your nipple and
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had a big time game in the NFC this weekend,
and it was the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers,
and the Green Bay Packers get it done, and the
Dallas Cowboys are throwing fitch. You got Mike McCarthy thrown headsets.
(01:27):
You got Mike McCarthy talking about people having red asses
because they were calling calling players out. Dalton Schultz and
Micah Parsons, we are calling players out in the locker road,
you know. And so so there's you know, everybody seemed
like they were in a good mood for Green Bay
except for this one snippet that was seen on television
in which Aaron Rodgers was showing some frustration with Matt Lafleur. So,
(01:48):
of course the media and Green Bay is gonna ask
Aaron Rodgers about this, and he's going to have to
answer questions about this little interaction with his head coach.
And here's how it went. We're so upset about as
the last drive regulation. They're coming off every single play call,
probably so a reason those play calls were upsetting to you. Yeah,
I feel like we were like thirty yards from and
(02:11):
in the game and regulation, and also felt like it
was two minutes, so I was going to be calling
knows and I was in a pretty good rhythm. Obviously
didn't have a ton of attempts tonight, but it felt
like I was in pretty good rhythm and felt like
I threw the ball just about exactly what I wanted
to tonight, And so I want a chance to go
win the game. Errand's back. A Rod's back, Baby, he's back,
(02:36):
Tom Brady's back. Everybody trying to shovel dirt on those
guys they are back. That's the kind of piste. Yeah,
come on, man, let's just sticking in my head, like
it only takes one, you know, it only takes one
of those games where he gets that feeling back, Like
did you hear how he sounded different? Do you hear
how he talked about throwing the football though He's like
pretty much to put it wherever I wanted, Like people
(02:59):
out there got out of standard. And I learned this
at a young age pitching, Like there are some days
that are just different where you go out there and
you can hit whatever spot with whatever pitch, you can
throw that football and whatever window you want and you
just you got it like you got it. And there
are some days where it's not like that. And it
feels like the large majority of the season for the
(03:20):
Packers has been that. And I don't know if it
has more to do with the fact that, you know,
Aaron didn't have to throw it as much. You know,
they ran the football. They tried to highlight their best player,
who is Aaron Jones. They tried to highlight him more
and there in their run game and just trying to
get him touches. But that seems to me to be
the formula. And I don't know if the the Watson
(03:40):
who had a couple of drops early but came back
made a nice grab like maybe that's gonna be that
you welcome to the NFL, you know, rookie moment for
him where he starts to play the way they're hoping
he's who want to play. But there is something to
be said for one, how they do their tumnute operations.
Not every team is like that. You heard him talking
about calling plays. You know, when you in a West
(04:00):
Coast system or you if you played long enough, sometimes
those play calls will let you call it because you're
not changing personnel, right, You're gonna keep those three wide receivers,
one side and one running back out there. And you
have as good of a feel as the coordinator does
as far as what you're getting in, what you're seeing
and what's probably gonna work. So you might as well
allow someone, if they're capable of that, to go call
(04:22):
those plays. So it's unique that every team is like
that in a two minute drive. And on top of that,
just hearing like the the sense of like, yeah, dude,
I'm still Aaron Rodgers, Like if we have a chance
to end this in regulation, like, that's what I've build
my career on, my my legend on is being able
to go down at the end of games in a
two minute drive and end this thing. So I think
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I would be frustrated as well if I was in
his shoes. Not even taken into consideration the fact that
you are going up against your old head coach, there
is a certain degree of, Hey, I want to make
sure I stick it to him too, and I'm gonna
be the one that has control of how we go
about doing it. So so you could definitely see in
sense like maybe there's some frustration there but I think
(05:06):
this is more of one of those all right, like
they got that win under their belt. Maybe that's the
catalyst now for them moving forward to start climbing back
into the NFC playoff picture. I think that the Sam
Buca Showbuca show boying, Boying, boying is wearing off. Yeah,
I think it's wearing off, right because early on in
the year, right when you were here Aaron Rodgers interview,
(05:30):
he would you know, it would be more like, yeah,
well it happens, and it will be going, you know,
in the right direction soon, like very subdued, very very calm,
cool the r E L a X. Relax, Aaron Rodgers,
(05:52):
this puffy bottom Aaron Rodgers right here. Listen to him again.
Listen to him again. What were you so upset about?
As a last rond of regulation, they're coming off every
single play call. Probably were upsetting. Yeah, I feel like
we were like thirty yards from all. You can stop it.
You don't even have to hear the whole thing. It's
(06:13):
not the tone, it's the words. Well, there is base
in but there's base in his voice too, right, it's
not it's not it's not floating away and light as
a cloud. Flow like the water, like there's base in
his voice and it is He's sharp. He is sharp
with what he's saying like this sounds like an Aaron Rodgers.
(06:34):
That's like, Okay, I'm gonna hit the throttle now. Now.
I don't know how this all plays out, but if
you have a motivated Aaron Rodgers, there isn't a better
guy in the game. When you have a motivated it
sounds like no, iowa Ayahaska. Is that what's called iowakaahayahaska system? Yeah? Well,
if it's out of his system, this sounds like a
(06:55):
guy who's drinking steel reserve. Like different tone. I understand
what the implications are, and I gotta go out there
and make a stay. They're going to smash Tennessee on
Thursday night. I'm calling it right now. This is gonna
be a smash job. The Titans have zero chance in
this game. Up, you guys a question there. They're at
four wins, the Vikings are at eight. If Aaron Rodgers somehow,
(07:21):
some way finds a way to get Green Bay back
into it, is it better that they started this way
and he pulled them back and showed a different dimension
of how right I mean, I don't. I don't know.
I mean because some would say if he's great, they
don't have to do this anyway, But just to see
(07:41):
if he's able to climb out of this with with
Green Bay, I mean, do you look at him like,
does it prove even more of the point of his
So I mean I also think just overall, you don't
want to be playing your best football and September and October.
You'd like to build up November December. And that was
talking about this yesterday before Monday Night Football. It's been
(08:04):
great watching what the Eagles have done. The problem is
is what happens if this loss gives the formula for
how to beat the Eagles moving forward and they end
up stumbling and following and they end up being a
you know, a ten or a level win team like
they're adjusted win loss total before last night's loss. I think,
if I'm not mistaken, I know Jonas always has these
(08:25):
pulled up, but I think it was like fourteen and
a half because if you look at the rest of
the Eagles schedule, they don't play I'm an opponent with
a winning record until Week thirteen, where they have to
play the Titans. So if if you're looking at the
way you'd like to build into going into the playoffs,
you know, you'd like to be able to play your
best football at the end. If you go back to
(08:46):
the year they won their Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers
as their quarterback, And I was talking to to a
j about this, He's like, he had the last three weeks.
It was like sudden death for us. But we had
to literally win the last three weeks just to have
a shot to be a wild card team. And then
we obviously had to go the long way on the
road to go in there. And eventually when the when
the super Bowl, and that's that's you know, that's how
(09:08):
it sometimes works out for for certain teams. We don't
always see the number one seeds, number two seeds, you know,
end up taking advantage of that. So that might be
the position that they're in. But I think considering the
youth on the outside of wide receiver and some of
the other spots, yeah, maybe if they build up towards
this at the end of December. We're talking about looking
at the Packers a lot differently. But that Super Bowl year,
the Bears the final week of the season had nothing
(09:30):
to play for and Levey Smith played all his starters
against the Packers the entire game because he wanted no
difference in the outcome, because he wanted to they beat
them eventually champion. He wanted to try and knock him
out of the playoffs. So they Yeah, they were playing
for their season every single week down the stretch. And
then they go on and win that Super Bowl. But
how about because they lost base twice in what four weeks? Ye? Yeah,
(09:54):
I mean listen, I mean, look, you know it happens.
Was in Chicago for that loss, by the way, Yeah, no, Lie,
I was there. My my sister was like, hey, you
want to come watch. I was like yeah, of course.
I was like, no, I'll come up there and hang
out with you. And actually I won't get into too
many specifics, but I was sitting there and then like
some of the other wives came in because she ended up, um,
(10:16):
they had just had their first child, so I was
really going to kind of help her with Lenning, their
eldest daughter and and all that while she was in
Chicago when she ended up coming back to the hotel.
So we're watching the game there, a couple other wives
came over of of you know, players in the team.
One of the wife started like breastfeeding, and I was
just like, well, okay, this is this is like, this
is more than I asked for out of this whole trip.
(10:38):
And she was perfectly comfortable with that. I was not.
I was like, I'm gonna leave the room and just
go watch the rest of the game in my hotel
room bowl when that happened, and my goodness, yeah, what
what was? We were all caught very much off guard,
but none of us looked away. It's natural. Well I
(11:00):
not just like, it's definitely natural, but there's also a
natural fascination with like I just met you and now
you're doing this. It seems like an intimate act. You know,
you gave me a very very interesting memory there. And
I'll tell you what it's like. You know how in
the movies, it's like they turned a second into like
(11:23):
five minutes, and it's like a whole entire story within
the story plays out and then then you come back
and you realize that you literally we're staring. Yeah, that's
that's what happened in that situation. I mean, and I'll
just say perfect ten, perfect ten out of ten. And
(11:44):
the judgment was made of being a perfect ten. Before
any of that had even transpired, respectfully, No, no, just respectfully, though,
it was like everybody's talking da da dah yeah yeah,
m dad, Yeah that's that. Yeah yeah, I god, dang,
no silence, crickets, nothing. And then you realized every single
(12:12):
person that was talking, trash and talking had lost their
thought the same exact way in that moment. So there
you go. Huh. So, while there will be no shaming
of doing it, you just have to accept what happens
when you do it. I mean, when you whip out
a weapon of mass destruction in front of a whole
(12:32):
bunch of wolves in the wild, I mean, what do
you think? What do you think is gonna happen? He
needs some milk, He need some milk. That baby had
everybody jealous, that god, that everybody was looking at you baby.
(12:52):
Stop wait, maybe not, maybe you should. You gotta eat.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Speaking of adjusted
wind totals, what do you think the Packers adjusted wind
total is? Now? Oh, it's double, it's more than half
and half their four and six and so the Packer
(13:12):
nine adjusted wind total is seven and a half. That's it.
Their schedules so they've got the short I was. I
was gonna say brutal, But if you want to go
with that, that's fine. They're at Philly, they're at Chicago,
they've got the Rams, they're at the Dolphins, they've got
(13:33):
the Vikings, and they finished with the Lions. It feels
like they're gonna be huming. They're gonna be battling for
eight to nine wins a year that I would take over. Yeah,
I take that. Ain't gonna get it done. I take
the over. But that's that's like right around the right
number what they predicted. We should be real though, they're
not making the playoffs. I don't think at nine and eight.
I mean, did you want odds on that too? Whatever
(13:53):
you want here, I mean I've got I've got the
odds for yet three to one. Yes, is plus three
to one to make the playoffs. So there a minus?
What for Dallas? Right now? What is it for Dallas? Um?
When you want me to veg out for you or
what's that called layout for you? That vege? You know,
a veg out means chill out? Okay? What what what
(14:15):
was your meaning? Now? You know? I was I was
in health class. I think the word you're looking for
was layout. Layout. So the Dallas Cowboys to not make
the playoffs is sixteen to one to not make the playoffs.
That's not bad, right, No, that is really bad. Like
like you're you're basically saying they're they're going to make
(14:36):
the playoffs. So basically ten dollars, when's your rolls, Royce?
If Dallas, I wouldn't bet that they're not gonna make it.
I don't think they're gonna make it, man, I think
they're making it. What's the Giants? Uh? The New York Giants.
Let me just go ahead and be vamped formula. But
the way I used to not not to get off
on this tangent, but if you looking for a Coach
of the Year candidates is Brian It's over. It's over right,
(15:00):
it's not even closed a three to one Giants or
minus three hundred Yes to the Kings coach. Yeah, they're
going to the playoffs. No, Kevin O'Connell's done great too.
I just think if you look at to me where
the Giants were last, how this organization has been looked
at in comparison, like you say, Roberts Lava. Well, but
the difference there is he's been there a couple of
(15:21):
years now. It's like he's had time to build this up.
And so I look at it and said, I don't know.
The Giants are like a turnaround from a turnaround team,
and it's the same. Yeah, and it's the same with
the quarterback. They don't want seriously like that. It's over.
Dave Ball has won this dump truck Nuts is gonna
(15:41):
win Coach of the Year, and it's well deserved. I
mean under where at the at the end of the break,
but I mean, here we go again, right, if we
got the Giants going in, and I really believe it's
going to be the Eagles that wins the East, and
if it's not, it's probably going to be the Giants,
which would put the Eagles in a second slot. So
(16:01):
we're assuming that the Cowboys will be that that fourth
or that third, uh wild card team. Do you want
me to give you what the playoff picture would currently
be right now? All right? If the playoffs were today, Okay,
in the NFC, the number one c would still be
(16:22):
the Philadelphia Eagles via the tiebreak and they beat Minnesota
earlier in the year. Minnesota would be at two. Seattle
is at the top of the NFC West, the three
Tampa's the top of the NFC South. Now the next
three teams through wild card teams the Giants at five,
the Cowboys at six, and at the seventh CT at
(16:44):
five and four they would be the next team. The
bubble teams are the Washington Commandos, the Packers at four
and six, Falcons, Cardinals, Lions, y. So the more interesting
sides the a f C. All right, the entire all right,
the entire a f C East is in the playoffs
right now. If if it was starting to start today,
(17:06):
the Chiefs would get to buy they're the number one seed,
and then it starts off with the Dolphins that's as
the two seed, the Jets as the five seed, Bills
as a sixth seed, Patriots as the seventh seed. How
about that? The entire I would feel cheated? Um, how
do you pull them all from the same division like that?
By the way, they haven't played each other Seattle, so
(17:29):
basically the Cowboys as a stands right now, would have
to travel to Seattle for that playoff game. You know,
the last time they played in Seattle, Tony Roma had
an issue with that that snap and they could have
won the game. I mean, that's the catch game to
catch gate. Well, no, that was the that was that.
Now that was at the Packers. Yeah this yeah, well
(17:52):
so listen, paid man, listen. They aren't going to the playoffs. Wow,
you heard me say it at the beginning of the year.
I'm saying a double land down at the midway point,
just after the midway point. I can't, I can't. I mean,
I can't buy it. I would. I would encourage everyone.
I would encourage everybody to buy and lay some money.
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The Packers, I honestly thought they were gonna be further
down on that list. It's going to be the Packers
that slide in and that last wild card spot because
right because of as of right now, it probably because
here's what's gonna end up happening. And it might not
even hold am I say, to take the Packers in
the playoffs or not? Yeah, but hold on, But it
might not even be the Packers. You know who it
might be. It might be the Seahawks. It might be
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the Seahawks that take that last wild card spot because
the Niners are going to take it over in the West.
You watch what I tell you, Niners are gonna take
over in the West, and it's going to either be
it's going to be the Seahawks that end up number
two and they're going to get that last wild card spot.
And that's the great thing about the playoffs that you
get to discover who Super Bowl what a transition. Funny way,
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Did I just break my heads? Did I just break
(19:39):
my damn headphones? Come on, man, it's broke. We're good
to go. Brady, Now there's broke. Just get some tape.
You'll be all right. Yeah, put some winds on it.
Good everything. By the way, do you think windex smells good? Uh,
it's distinctive. I wouldn't say it smells good. Yeah. I
(20:00):
don't know what purple stuff smells good? What fabulosa? Yeah? Yeah,
that stuff does smell good. What do you think smells
better w D forty or windex? Oh? W D forty Yeah,
I agree, not even close. Something about w D forty. Yeah,
you talked about it a lot. What is it? I
(20:22):
don't know? Trying to like, no, no, what is w
D forty? I know what it is? But just refresh me.
Is that liquor store open? Maybe they might have something
you like sprayed on your bike chains. Yeah, it's like
a for rust things like that ore oil. They got
everything You've been to that liquor store they got, not
like not been to that liquor store. When you're ripping
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on people who are tremendously ashy and and lotion, just
won't do you use w D forty? Really? I'm not
sure about you. I personally don't you know, go to
the liquor store to get w D four home depot,
lows ace, something like that, just saying if you were
out here. Some people call alcohol oil, you know, some
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people do say that it looped up a little bit
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a man can get. That that, Um, let me list
some time clear Okay, that that was your segue? Yeah,
I mean look, I don't know alright, that was your segway. Yeah, okay, alright,
that's what we're doing here. This is this is this
is alright. So, um, I'm gonna read a tweets. You
(21:53):
guys have to guess who sent this tweet. It's somebody
in the NFL seef you guess who said this tweet?
All right, here we go, all you critics, you criticize
all of us in the NFL. For losing. When we
make moves to win, you act so righteous. Who you
crap in? Just win baby? Who's that Al Davis? That's Jimmy,
(22:19):
that's Jim Mercy. Jimmy, yeah, Mercy baby. Perfections, guys, So
I'm a captain. It would have been way better like
out here. You understand this. Why the hell did they
bench Matt Ryan in the first place and whose decision was,
Because what's really messed up about this is if you're
(22:43):
Jimmrcy and you told Frank Reich, I want to play
Sam Elinger, and then you bench him for two games,
and in that span of two games, you fire your
offensive coordinator who wasn't even calling plays, You fire the
guy you just told to do that, who ends up
in the fall guy, and then you bring in one
of your, as Joe Thomas said, drinking buddies to then
(23:05):
be the head coach who probably walks in the door
and goes, hey, if I'm gonna do this, I want
to put the best guys out there in the field.
So I'm playing Matt Ryan if he's healthy, which that
was part of the that was kind of part of
the back store. I don't know that a lot of
people touched on. Matt Ryan was actually has actually been
banged up, so he felt healthy enough obviously able to go,
(23:25):
and he was able to start and help him get
a victory over Las Vegas. But if Jim Ursay had
had basically told Frank Wright to bench or sitting Matt
Ryan for sam Ellinger in the first place, to me,
this whole situation is jacked up. That's a big if
you say it is, because if you're gonna lose your job,
(23:47):
then I'm going to play who I'm going to play
on the way out the door. Here's here's the problem.
Though I'm not sitting. I don't. I don't think Frank
Right thought he was losing his jack. I think if
they if they're telling you to do something, you do
it regardless of the outcome. How is that going to
fall on you? Then I'm talking about that. They specifically
said when Matt Ryan was benched, this isn't just about injury.
(24:09):
This is a long term benching. They're gonna go with
sam Ellinger And they said, quote, we're excited to see
what sam Ellinger has got. So you handcuffed the coach
in place with the roster move that was that was
jimmercy and Frank Reich who bo said those things. So
you handcuff him while he's got the job, and the
second he's out the door, then you then you open
things up and say, all right, you can make whatever.
(24:33):
So here's the problem with that. If Frank speaks out
they never getting another job. What does that? What does
that do for you? And how badly does that? So
that's where like he's you're always bitter off not saying anything. See,
And I really do think that Jim Murcay, I think
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Frank Rank was on the clock when Carson Wentz didn't
work out, because think Carson Wentz was a Frank right guy.
He sold him on the idea of trading for Carson
Wyantz and making the move. And then when they melted
down in that final game of the season in Jacksonville,
I think Jim Mursay never really forgave him for it,
and he was on the clock and and to put
him in that spot though, and Frank Gig was nothing
(25:16):
but but classy about it and not a surprise to anybody.
Can have moved the goal post on what Jim Ursay
was quoted saying, what we listened to him the sound bite.
I'm just saying, y'all moved the goal post? How do
we move it? Because we should be talking about, as
Q would say, the rail story that exists here from
(25:37):
what Jim er Say said, and it was the brilliance
of Jeff Saturday as a head coach of the Indianapolis Colts.
I don't know if you heard his postgame speech. He
basically just thanked everyone else for doing all the work.
He was just kind of that, that's that's what a
real hit coach is supposed to do. Thank all the
people that he's I don't doubt that, but I also
really believed it. I was like, he just got there.
(25:58):
He's probably not doing a whole lot of Uh. I
believe changing. That's why they won't you, because they believe
Jeff Saturday. Jim Mercy, he's he does he know that
he's got Philadelphia this week? Does I'm taking the points.
I'll tell you what I'm saying. I'm riding this gravy
train go bottom. Look what we have in this past week.
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Washington can't stop the run. Jeff Saturday's gotta running football again. Yes,
Jonathan Taylor was getting say, I bet they get like
eight a half point. You got a puffy bottom Philadelphia Eagles,
I don't care. I'll take those points. You don't you
know can win. I just don't think they gonna cover.
You don't think Nick Sirianni getting a little bit of
revenge for the coach that gave him his gig, Frank Reich.
You're gonna do my guy like that, and then he's
(26:42):
gonna go back and he's gonna he's gonna write the
create these like little storylines. That's what it is. It's
a storyline. I'm a TV guy. That's what I did.
The line is eighty took it. Yeah, I'm taking the
points Indianapolis at home? What honestly, if this game, what
(27:05):
are we saying on Monday? And just to be clear,
I'm not saying they're going to win. I'm just saying
I think they're going to come. I know you're saying that,
But what if they win? What are we saying Monday?
Guess what? If you're a former player, you have to
be at a bar, keep your cell phone on all right,
because you might get a call from one of your
previous owners that calls you up to coach a team.
(27:26):
Can I just say this, Joe Thomas, ripping Jeff Saturday
the way that he did, and basically ripping Jimmer say
for giving Jeff Saturday the job and saying, well, you
know he's drinking, buddy, and all the all the other
things that he said, like Jeff Saturday in one game
matched Joe Thomas's win total in two years in Cleveland.
(27:47):
Like the idea that there's two things are so okay.
It's just the idea that like, I know how this
is supposed to be and how this is supposed to go,
and the way you handled your coaching, sir, which was
an absolute abomination first of all, not though, but how
do we know until they actually give it a give
(28:07):
it a spin, and through one game it's worked and
they're probably gonna lose the rest of their games. But
they're saying now about what if they don't If you listen, Yeah,
if you listen though, to what Jimmers say said in
regards to bringing in Saturday as decisions behind it, YadA, YadA, YadA,
it was incredibly disrespectful to the guys on that staff,
like calling them how they're they're fearful, they're like curt
(28:31):
all of them, and it's like, dude, those guys are
still on this staff and basically a little bit just
like there is an element I wouldn't but think about
it perspective, you are like, is Darius Letter excuse me,
Shack Leonard not one of the best linebackers in the league,
(28:53):
and you're taking a year of his life in his
pro career and you're basically tossing a portion of that
into the hands of Jeff Saturday. He does have no
experience doing this, and yeah, there's there's a lot of
questions surrounding that. Like, I think it's a fair criticism
and regardless of how the rest of the season goes,
it's still a fair criticism. That's how I see it. Again,
(29:17):
the way I think Jimmer Say handled it is what
you can criticize because it was something where you could
have brought Jeff Saturday in and had him been part
of the coaching staff, but not made him the head
coach and had someone else like Bubba Intron or any
of the the candidates we kind of talked about and
allowed Jeff to have the impact he's gonna have, because
I think the impact he's having is probably gonna be
(29:38):
overstated to to a degree. Besides the fact he's got
the head coaching title. Like, they're not gonna make drastic
roster moves. It's not like you can make drastic changes
to their scheme outside of saying, hey, let's make sure
we have Jonathan Taylor run the football at least twenty
five plus times a game. But would his losing be overstated? See?
To me, it's what everybody know. He's he's set up
(29:59):
with all upside like it doesn't matter if you loses.
People probably expect him to that. And that's that's my
that's see, that's my point of it all. Regardless of
what side you fall on, regardless of what your criticisms are,
your opinions are of it, the bottom line is is
this man made a decision that that has shook up
the entire sports world. The entire sports I mean, for me,
(30:24):
I face value, Jeff Saturday being the head coach is
now one of the biggest storylines in the National Football League.
I'm certain they couldn't be more ecstatic that Jim er
Say made what would be considered to be a bone
hitted move. And how this plays out, because even if
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he does win, if he continues to win, then is
it is it really considered to be I agree the
way he said it is one is one thing, but
when you think about if the results are the results
and you're winning, what are you gonna say, Like, what
are you going to say at the end, if the
man ends up having to winning season? What? What is?
(31:05):
What's the besaid? Well, I think the tough thing is
the process that you typically go to hire a head coach.
There's a Rooney rule in effect for a reason, and
you'd almost be And that's why there was some criticism
about just what they're doing. And when he talked about
hiring Jeff Saturday, he was saying, I hope it's for
longer than just this season. Well, you'd be skirting that
(31:27):
system that's set up to obviously give minority creates at
least an opportunity to interview or be up for it, right, which,
even if they don't get the job, it's still a
valuable experience for that next opportunity that you get. And
and I think the problem with a lot of people
is like, well, this is a loophole essentially, because regardless
of how he does this year, you still need to
technically go back through that process. Do you not, Yeah,
(31:50):
it's uh and by the way, plus nine dred if
you're interested in the Colts to win the division, if
you're going to fire, I mean, that's the time to
be able to just buy it now. Although guys, how
they're only one are they? Like? Two games back? He
had two games which I don't know. I might wait
a week and if they lose, if they lose this week,
(32:11):
value better value, that's gonna jump up. And then maybe
that's where you strike because you've got the Titans you play. Um,
maybe the odds want chance because they're in Green Bay
and you think they're gonna get mocked, smoked, absolutely smoked.
All right? It is too with bat wings on it? What?
What is that? It'll be parked outside the heat arena soon.
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What's cute? What is a bus with bat wings? Uh?
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look back into what the hell last night was because
we get along during the weekend. Somebody we are going
to beef today. Somebody did get screwed? Uh about me? No,
you want to explain uh to the audience. What happened here? Min? Sam?
We're supposed to be each other's people here, you know
what I mean? Just cut me off like red yeah,
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like we have to go. So he's so uptight right now? Sam?
What's up? Man? He's really up? Sam? Sam, what's the problem?
What's your problems? There's nothing to see here. We're just
say west, Yeah, that'll that'll farewell in the big tent
title game. Well, who the buzz Saw's got a burr
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right now for a lifetime contract. He's got a bur
what's your problem seeing? I mean, he's real quick, real
sharp with his tongue today. I say, we don't get
him with door in the break See if he can
handle all the clock's always ticking on these shows, all right,
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try to recycle stress. All right, Lee, let's just do
the questions. Let's just get into this place. Guys, would
(35:45):
you rather? Would you rather sit through a concert of
JD and the straight Shots or the Jim Rcy Band
Jimmercy Band? No hold on? Who's j D in the
straight And I got the right music for you? And
it's not as good? Yeah, I mean, at least I
know who Jim Marcy is, So I'm going. I'm going
Jim Mercy. Plus he might have Jeff Saturday plan instrument
(36:06):
that played. Mercy might give me a job if I
go listen to his band. That's true and open bar too.
I'll go Jim Mercy and three trees to lean on.
I got to start playing more trees. Sticking with Jim
Mercy there, would you rather do a bender with Jim
Ercy or p F Chang's dinner with Mark Davis. I'm
(36:28):
staying with hy PF change. What you're trying to say,
like PF Chang's what if it was called pf of
orchids of Asia? Yeah, last time I saw him, he
was eating pizza. And by the way, the portions at
PF change gets smaller every time, dude, really free time
(36:49):
used to be really good portions. Yeah, not anymore. No,
No to bummer, Huh, I'll go y do yeah, because
he might hire me for a job. I mean he's
becoming pretty popular these days. Brady, What would you do
if you went and hung out with him? It might
it might head coach, but Mark Davis might too. I
mean Mark Davis has lost to Joe Mary. He's still
(37:12):
supporting his coach. I'm a rainmaker day. Would you rather
be always itchy or always sneezing? Much? Rather sneeze? You
did all morning? Hell? No, couldn't talk to people itching itching?
Is that you look like a crackhead if you had
(37:35):
itches all day long? Bro, Like, imagine scratching yourself all
day long, keep it hide up. I could turn my
head if I sneeze. If you're all day Yeah, you
could just see it the pretend like you must not
have had a bed. It's before man, a bed itch
you can. You gotta scratch. I've had a lot of
bad things. I just ignore him, just kind of fight
(37:57):
through the pain. They sell like wooden hands and scratchers
for your back. And imagine if you had to scratch
the center of your back like all day long. Yeah
you you or your chest? You scratching your nipple and
your back. You don't look like a crackhead. Ha ha.
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