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Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington Brady Quinn Jonas knocks with the Here coming
up on this Tuesday edition, We're gonna look back on
Monday Night Football. How did things go for Jeff Saturday
and Matt Ryan and company. Not ideal the conclusion of
that game, but things were optimistic looking ahead for Kenny
Pickett and company. And we do have some controversy on
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the gloves he was warring. We're gonna do that and
the prop at Monster results as well too. We're also
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fired their head coach and their offensive coordinator this season
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because man oh man, that would suck if they still
had struggles on offense. That would really suck. If if
you had clock management issues, you know, at the end
of the game, not want to use any of them.
Not I mean, and watch though, all right, who's that on?
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Mostly I'll put it this, that's on a head coach,
game management, clock management. I mean you, it's some systems.
The quarterback will also be out there as well, but
you know you've got an inexperienced play caller who Jeff
Saturday elevated after they you know, you had Jimmversy fired.
The ROC wasn't calling plays anyways, and then he fired
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Frank Reik and then it fell on a Jeff Saturday
to make a hire with someone on the staff, right,
you can't bring someone in cold. It doesn't even know
the offense of the personnel. So it falls on you know,
basically Jeff Saturday and the o C that he elevated
shows to be in that situation. You want to hear
Jeff Saturday's explanation for the clock management issues or all right,
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So here was the colds head coach, former ESPN employee.
I thought we had plenty of time. I wasn't really
concerned we still had time out. I really wanted, you know,
when he was going down, I couldn't tell where they
were going to start him from going down right like
he was gonna get the first down. I expect this
to get on the ball and have another play a
little bit quicker than that. But again, this wasn't a
press for time. We just didn't make enough place down
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a touchdown. He thought, like, what thirty seconds is a
lot of time? Maybe not with a running attack. By
the way, like you know, they kept showing the Peyton
and him exchange of you know, him telling Peyton and
running the ball and Peyton tell like, here's what's funny
to me? Right, Because first off, everybody thinks I'm a
Jeff Saturday fan. I'm not a Jeff Saturday fan. I'm
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a fan of the fact that he's a former player
and got an opportunity to coach, and I hope that
it works so other players may get the same opportunity
afford it to them. Let's let's make sure we're clear
on that. Then the second part of it is you're
watching it coming in and they kept showing him and
Peyton Man and going back and forth like it was funny,
Like like ha ha ha, this is a laughable moment
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Peyton and Jeff Saturday. This gives Jeff Saturday some credibility
because he's going back and forth with Peyton and then
you see Tyreek jump up, tell Peyton to get away.
Dotta dot this and another. But if you're listening to
the exchange and you're really paying attention, it's an indictment
on Jeff Saturday. It's an indictment on Jeff Saturday because
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your quarterback is telling you, listen, we're going to run
the ball. But what did he say to him? Q
freaking block when we're passing block when we're passing Jeff. Hey, Jeff,
how about you block? So he's calling out Jeff for oh,
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you want to run the ball, and and whoever the
producers are, and god bless whoever said pull that film
and use that footage. But you're basically showing Jeff Saturday
having a fit and a temper tandrum because he wants
to run the ball. He wants us, he wants to
run block and he doesn't want to pass block. Which
is interesting because then they did make the point in which, okay,
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here it is. You made the point that Jeff Saturday
is going to run the ball. With Jonathan Taylor, you're
going to run the ball. Okay, they ran the ball.
They ran the ball, and they didn't throw the ball
too bad. It wasn't too bad, but it wasn't It
was not the type of offensive scheme against a of
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a Pittsburgh Steeler team that does have a good defense
but has been susceptible to to offenses overwhelming them this year.
I don't understand why, and and maybe I'm off on this,
but I don't understand why his play calling was so conservative.
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It was super conservative, and I thought it was pretty
interesting because now, like you know, things are settling in
he's starting to be a coach and and now it's
coaching against coaching and he's lost to in a row.
I don't think it's super conservative, maybe because of his,
you know, perspective as a player. And this is one
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of the reasons why I'm not an advocate for former
players coaching necessarily. I think that's where we get things
wrong because a lot of former players don't see their
blind spots and they don't understand They're not self aware
enough to understand perspective, Like they can't see the game
and its entirety. They only see it from their perspective
as a form or player from the position in which
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they played. So we talked about what was the big
differences When Jeff said it took over his head coach, uh,
he gave Jonathan Taylor the football more. Shocking as an
offensive lineman, to give your best running back the ball more. Okay,
Like that's not a drastic change or one that's mind
boggling in any way. It's it's something that you would expect, right,
Like Johnathan is one of your best players, probably should
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have been running in more of the season. Maybe he
wasn't pcent healthy. You know, maybe earlier when Frank Reich
was the head coach, maybe he couldn't run him as
much as you wanted to because he was on a
pitch count. Uh. You know, they had bench Matt Ryan.
Matt Ryan comes back in. Now Matt Ryan's not playing
quite as well. So you start looking at some of
the reasons, you know, what led to their season to
that point of Jim Mercy firing Frank Reich. They're all
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rearing their ugly head after what was a nice little
two games stretch of some tough games. Because they're a
good football team as far as their personnel, but they
just haven't been able to put everything altogether. But but
I think if you look at Jeff Saturday and why
play calling looks more conservative. What you hired a guy
who's got no experience calling plays. You know, you brought
in a guy who you know then is elevating a
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younger kid, he's like thirty years old, who's calling plays,
and so he's as an offensive alignment outside of look
at the play clock. He's never really had to worry
about clock management, not like a quarterback has, not like
a coach has. So I kind of look at it
and think like I'm all for merit Like meritocracy in
this world has just gone out the window where we
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don't we usually don't look at guys for what they
do well. We're trying to make a case for why
they should get the shot or why they should get
a job. No, it's it's it's like, have you proven
you can do it? Have you actually done it before?
Like there is something too that I know this one
gotten away from meritocracy, but it's what made America great
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is our ability to say no, Like, but we're just
gonna pick the best guy for the job. And maybe
Jim Mercy feels like Jeff Saturday is that. But doing
this during the season, and I think this is where
I've been critical of the whole hiring. You know, portion
of this is you brought in a guy with no
experience at the NFL level, no experience at the college level.
Yes he played, that's great, but why not wait until
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the off season to do that, you know, hire someone
who's on the staff. Now, get through this season, maybe
you lose enough games, you're in a great draft position,
and you go get a franchise player. And then you
go when you hire Jeff Saturday, and you give him
that opportunity to hire the staff that he wants, not
a staff that's hanging over because of you know, what
Frank Reich had. And then you give him opportunities to
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go through situational awareness as a head coach and prepare
for in games scenarios and prepare for how different it
is and the different conversations that you're having as a
head coach as opposed to what he's been accustomed to.
So I just I think we're starting to see, you know, unfortunately,
the true colors jonas of where this team's appening. You know,
it's fine. I wonder how pot committed Jim rcay is
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to Jeff Saturday like, and does Jim Satday go to six?
And if you look at their remaining schedule, Indianapolis has
got a rough go. They're at Dallas, at Minnesota next,
they got the Chargers and the Giants. I mean, probably
not going to be favorite in any of those games.
And then you finish up with the Texans, and we
all know what the Texans are, So say your Texans
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might get you a late late season win two though
they could. Yeah, that's the thing about a team like
that that last game might be important enough for them
to play hard. So let's say they're two and six
after eight games, with all the blowback and all the
celebration that Jim er Say got after they beat the
Raiders in his first game, does he just out of
spite wanting to prove that his method had some success
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at some level? Do you think Jim er Say just
rolls with Jeff Saturday. They use queues reasoning and say,
we couldn't make it through the season, but now we
have to go through the process of allowing him to
do all those things that you just said first, I
mean that that would be the justification of bringing him
back if that were if that were off, is he
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did then just utilize the loophole in the Rooty rule,
and that me b Yes, he did. Like that to
me is bs because you one didn't open yourself up
to listen to other people who maybe, by the way,
a former player and much more qualified. Indeed, because how
many of those guys we got right now in the league, LaVar,
Not many? I mean there's a lot of guys. Position coaches. Yeah, absolutely,
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coordinators too, There's coordinators who have played and who could
be good head coaches. To so, I just that's what
ticks me off. Is he wanted and really this is
just about him stirring the issue to put in one
of his buddies to go coach, and that ticks me off.
I just don't see that. But if that became a trend,
that would be a wild ass trend. If just to
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beat the loophole, the Roooney rule, you're gonna get rid
of your coach mid season, I would hope this is
is not a trend. Well, they've already tried to Uh
is it the nfl p A that looked into it
and is trying to find a way to correct that.
They've They've already sent in a request in the NFL.
I think it might be in the nfl P. I
might have that wrong, honestly, Like, let's be real here,
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how do you correct that? If you if you if
you fired the guy, and you don't have time, like
you don't have time to go through no crazy ass
process to hire coach. You got to get a coach
in there right now, Like, Hey, Steve Wilkes, I mean
give the guy credit for the bag of crap he
got in Arizona his first year and then having to
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take over this Carolina team. Where have they got three
wins since he's taken over in the same quarterback Charcon
the crap by the way, Yeah he just started another quarterback,
Starnald's healthy, but they speak the crap out of the Broncos.
So I mean, you know, good for Steve Wilkes, but
I just he's saying, let's ride now. But I'm just saying,
how do you go through if if you feel like
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you want that to be your coach and it's because
of the way they came through the rest of the season,
how I mean, how do you navigate saying that you well,
you have to go through the entire process all over again.
Like you can do that. You can do that. But
that's literally just like right now and listen, I'm just
gonna shoot from from the hip. It's a formality, just
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like when you're doing it in in regular time. It's
a formality. You already have an idea of who your
prospects are that you want to hire. Now, it would
be nice if meritocracy played a part in it, and
when you sat down and you talked about things and
you discuss things in the way they said that Mike
Tomlin was able to get the job in Pittsburgh. That
that's how it would happen. But it is called the
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Rooney rule, so how fitting that it happened in Pittsburgh.
But that's just not going Hey listen, and for what
it's worth, that's not gonna be what it's gonna be
for a white dude, uh, black dude, a Mexican dude, Hispanic, Asian,
you name it. It's not gonna be that for them.
Because these these owners and whoever these gms or whoever
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it is that are in the hiring process had their
idea of who they want to hire based upon reference
referral and and here we go, here we go to
them merit. The merit to them is why they want
to hire these guys in particular. So it's kind of
almost like a joke to me when people get so
thrown into there has to be the process, the Rooney
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rule has to be there, like it is a loophole.
But be clear, it's not that big of a loophole.
Here's here's why I don't like it. Though. If you're
in any other enterprise and and either you're you know
that you have certain regulations you have to abide by etcetera. Right, Um,
you know one, you're subject to that, You're subject to
scrutiny from that. But also like, if you make enough
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wrong hires your business, your operations will not work right
like you will not work. You will lose your company.
You will lose your company. You'll either go out of
business or there'll be some sort of hostile takeover with
a board and then they'll move on from you. It
will not happen in the NFL. You could be the
worst owner in the league. And I don't ask you guys, like,
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who do you guys think of the worst owner of
the league. Well, you know who I think, I says
a little little. I mean, did you see the Sean
Taylor statue. I mean that's what they called it, Like
a mannequin with missing cards ghost, a wire mannequin for
sant Like, you've leveraged Sean since he's passed away. You've
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leveraged him for good will every single year, and now
you try to leverage him again with a wire. So
let's take a little Danny boy. Yeah, so as bad
as he's been as an owner, he's still still hous
teams and he's gonna sell it for billions only because
of how awful he had actually run his organization for
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what over two decades, But like he had, he's forced
to buy other owners. It's such a unique, rare scenario
we almost nearly we never see it. And and they
don't even want to force him to. They don't want
about the got on that absolutely. But my point is
this is they could be an awful owner. They could
be awful at hiring coaches, hiring general managers, running the
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actual organization. They'll still make money because that's how the
NFL work. How many million watched Dallas New York? I mean,
you can't make this stuff up. How many businesses outside
of football where you know everybody it's everybody's business, you
know what I mean, Like it's everybody, like everybody knows
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you know what I mean. Like the idea is right
that that's what they get. They do get that opportunity
where they could stink and still make money off of it.
So that but that's where I think it's different from
the hiring process, because you're right, like if you have
a private owner of any bites, still tell you why
the hell am I going to listen to some someone else?
Tell me who I think I should hire like I'm
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not going to do that, and so I get that perspective.
But there still as a perspective that owner makes enough
bad hires and his company continues to go downhill, he'll
be out of business. And that's how it works. But
you know these owners aren't subject to that because of
how good the NFL isn't making money. Yeah, it's they
created it. It's two pros and their granddad's he inherited it.
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So Aaron Rodgers has got does he have a punctured lung?
Or does he not have a punctured lung? Like, what's
what's the answer here? What are the results? Like? What's
going on here? I mean like he would say he
has a punctured lung even if he doesn't have a
punctured lung, just because you don't want to play him again,
let him down. The funny thing about that is, um,
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you know, when you like tweak a hamstring, like, oh,
it's different grades of of a hamstrings here, right, Like
you either have your lung punctured or not. Right Like,
It's like you either pop the balloon or he didn't.
I feel like it's kind of it's kind of pretty
cut and dry. But I guess they did some tests.
They said it wasn't he wanted to do further tests
forever reason, I don't. I don't know, um, I mean,
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if you're the team in this case, I mean, I'm
not sure why, and they do have a great medical
staff up there in Green Bay, believe it or not,
But why wouldn't you have his best interest in mind?
The other guy a hundred and fifty million dollars if
he had some sort of debilitating injury to you know,
would force him not to ever play again, or there's
a medical malpractice or misdiagnosis. I mean, could you imagine
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how much you're on the hook for you just sign
him to a hundred fifty million dollar, fully guaranteed deal.
So UM, I would think that that that they're trying
to give him the best medical advice they can. That's
just my opinion. Punctured. Let it be punctured. Yeah, yeah,
give him time to hell yeah, because at the end
of the day, you'll do you'll do another analysis of it,
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you'll do more testing of it. And I say, you
revisit testing it and like three to four weeks, four
or five weeks, you know, six weeks, six weeks. What
do you know? You know you're talking Valentine's Day. I
think we're ready for our next Mr. I what do
you know? Seasons say, hey, you know, that's how it happens.
Sometimes you gotta heal up. Though you got a great
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bill of health. You're good now. Matt Lafloor says that
he is going to be the starter if he's healthy
this weekend. So there's that from Matt Lafloor. What do
you guys want to see? Because for entertainment purposes, I'm
a lot more interested in seeing Jordan's love play at
this point than this season that I am. Aaron Rodgers.
Roll out Jordan's love. Let's see what we got. We've
got five six games off, whatever it is, rull them out,
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that's who we got. Turn that into a punctured lung.
I'm with LaVar, were just round up a little bit.
We do it sometimes it's okay, round up a little bit, rot.
You have done so many amazing things. I would use
his his speech coming into training camp the year before
to to drive home the point that listen, people come
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here because of you. This team is what it is
because of you. Everything about green Bay is because about
it's it's you, and you're deserving of a break like
you're green Bay. You're gonna always be green Bay. Go
go take a break like we we get it and
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and and come back with a burr for next year.
Come back, come back with a burr in your your
tail to play well next year. Now, whether you have
any intentions of bringing him back or not, or trying
to get from underneath the contract or whatever it is,
you're going to try to figure it out. You you
cross that bridge when you get there. But as of
for now, gass him up. All he wants. It is
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a little bit of of reassurance and you know, reinforcement
that he's Aaron Rodgers. Give him that, and and let
him get healthy and and let him have some time away.
Now he can. Now you can do it, and people
aren't going to be up in arms about you doing it.
I don't see why they don't try to make this
work on both sides. I don't see why Aaron Rodgers
wouldn't be a party to it, like I'm gonna go
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take this time. I'm Aaron Rodgers. I mean, maybe it's
because Rogers feels like, well, I've got the Bears this week,
and you know, and yeah, so why not let's just
give it one more spin and then uh and then
after that maybe we'll shut it down. But it just
I I just want to see Jordan's Love with a
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few games, because look, he showed some stuff on Sunday
night to where you thought, all right, well there's some
mobility that maybe Rogers doesn't have at this point in
his career. With Jordan's Love, he was making some plays
all of a sudden. Christian Wattson has turned into a
legitimate touchdown threat every time he gets the ball in
his hand. Seemingly when he does catch it, it just
feels like why, like, let's just you know, I mean,
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we we've known what the what the Packer season was
going to be for several weeks once he was dealing
with the broken thumb, and then you saw them lose
all those games in a row. It was like well, now,
but they can still go on a run and still
go to a run, and then you look at their
schedule the rest of the way and you go, now, man,
it's over. They know it's over. Matt Lafloor knows it's over.
Packers fans know it's over. It's a lost season. So
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if it's a last season, let's try and gain something
from it, and let's see what we got in Jordan's Love,
create some trade value or a pathway forward. It's a
win win situation. The only way you lose is if
if Jordan's Love is a complete bust and and and
how he plays, and I didn't look like that was
going to be the case. I mean, he should be
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at least formidable, and we're gonna find out if he's formidable,
because I I would assume he's going to play this week.
I would assume that that Aaron Rodgers with the thumb
and the rib situation may not be ago this week.
I would assume that. I don't know what I'm basing
that off of, other than if I'm in pain, why
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am I going to push through these pain, this pain
with this this season? Why am I going to do that?
That's how I would be looking at it if I'm
Aaron Rodgers. Where I'm at right now? My vantage point?
Why am I going out here where they playing? It
doesn't even matter where they're playing. It's going to be cold.
It's going to be cold as hell. Whoa, whoa, you're
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talking to a bearrass fan al right in one snocks.
It matters where they play, doesn't it. Jonas said, it's
going to be cold as hell no matter where they play.
At this time of the year, it's going to be
cold as hell in Chicago. What's the It might even
be raining. And if it's raining, then his cartilage is
gonna hurt you as lungs gonna hurt even more. His
thumb is going to hurt even more. Now we're looking
at thirty nine degree temperatures right now, and that's cold.
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But that ain't horribly that's not horribly bad. As long
as it's dry, that's not bad. I don't I just
I don't know. You have the problem. In Chicago, they
always say, if you don't like the weather, wait a minute,
because you know you're on the lake front there and
all of a sudden the wind starts to pick up.
Maybe it gets a little bit of a little bit
of moisture in the air. Who knows raining snow possibility?
I mean, come on like this, Uh, I just I
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just want to see because there was you guys have
mentioned this. I think it was Brady yesterday who had
mentioned that the guys have probably seen Mike White on
the practice squad and and have gone against him and said, Hey,
this guy's got the goods. Why don't we go with him?
And there were some Packer players who are being interviewed
a few weeks ago and they all are speaking highly
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of Jordan's love. We see him in practice. He's a
starting quarterback in this league. He's got the goods. I
just I wonder what percentage of Packer fans would also
at this point like to see at least what they got,
because if he goes out and he plays well, I
don't think Rogers walks away this year. I think he's
probably back with the Packers. But at least Green Bay knows, okay,
that is the future, and that's who we can roll
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in can actively move off of the information. If you
don't have the information, then how do you how do
you approach actively? What are we keeping? Are we trying
to make sure Aaron Rodgers comes back. Are we trying
to move him? You can come up with a plan,
a strategy if you know what you have in your
draft pick that you brought in two replaces him in
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the first place. Do you think Rogers plays beyond next year?
Brady Um, I hope he does. Look. I think he's
in an incredible talent at the position, So I hope
he does. Even if it's not Green Bay, even if
they work it out, where he goes somewhere else. I mean,
it would be interesting if his entire master plan was
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to get the contract that he wanted to then move
on to somewhere else where he wanted to finish his career,
if he didn't want to fish, that would brilliant. Yeah.
Maybe that's what the Ayahuasca bron I don't know, but
it is just interesting now when you look at a
couple of places. You have San Francisco, who was rumored
to have been trading for him, and that's where some
(26:43):
of the frustration began because the Packers didn't go through
with the deal. You wonder if if that truly was
where he wanted to go, or a destination he wanted
to go to. And who wouldn't. By the way, um
that's the hottest team in the NFL right now, probably
next to the Eagles. And I think you'd have to
look at that and say if if Jimmy garob was
a free agent. And I know they invested a lot
(27:05):
in Trey Lance, but that's still a wild card out there,
and who knows if he'll ever become the guy they thought,
you know, they drafted him to be. But if you
could have a shot at Aaron Rodgers, as much as
that organization has gone through their ups and downs, if
Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't gonna stay or they wanted to move
on from him, yeah, that might be a movie you
go after. You know, I think you have to, and
(27:28):
Rogers would would would be really good in that system.
But um, I just I don't know. I mean, like
I said, I think it's it's it'd be tough to
think of a league without Tom Brady and eventually that
day is gonna come. It's tough to think of a
league without Aaron Rodgers, and that's eventually gonna come. So
whether it's the Packers or someone else, like I would
love for him to be back next year, Um, hopefully things,
(27:49):
you know, get off to a better start than what
we saw this year. By the way, is it mirre
the older quarterbacks in the league looking old this year?
Like Brady at times? I mean Matt last night. I
mean everyone is different, you know, like you go out
to like LaVar, I mean, come on, you go to
like a high school reunion or called, you know, you
(28:10):
go back at the Penn State and you see people
you go, oh, hey, okay, all right, and you see
other people who go, oh my god, what the hell happened?
Do you think that's it? Yeah? I just think it's genetics. Man. Stop.
Sometimes road Shopper used always telling me and I was yeah.
He goes, say, chops, I got a secret for you.
(28:30):
So what's that? He goes, I want to be able
to look into the future. I go, yeah, I'm thinking myself,
like what is he about? Ready to tell me right now?
Like what did he do? Overnom? And he goes, if
you really like a girl, he goes, if you really
want to look in the future, just meet her mom
or ask her that's how Yeah, okay, that's that's our
(28:53):
regional values. Look at them all. Well, my mom my
mother in law is bad as hell badly to day.
She's still a smoke show to day. But I got money.
Always people be like, man, you look so good, I said,
because I got money. I don't have the same stress
as you have. I have stress, but it ain't the
(29:14):
same as yours. Like I wake up. You got to
clean your gutters, So do I. You gotta go clean
your gutters. I get somebody to clean my gut. I
wake up. It's like, dang, my house is is it
needs to be picked up. You have to pick up
that house. I have somebody who picks up my house.
That's the thing about you. Humble. I am humble. I
am humble. I'm just telling you why I don't age
(29:37):
like I get I go. You know what I do
when I leave here. I leave here, I kiss my
family like good morning, have coffee with my wife. I
do my work like I work like I have other
things that I work on. I'm an entrepreneur. And I
sit down and I do that, and then I try
to figure out what I want to do with myself
(29:57):
in that that downtime of what I'm feeling, and and
that could be a nap, that could be watching a
movie that could be exercising. It's it's basically what I
wanted to be the rest of the day, like the
entire day. I do hits for television. Uh, coach football.
I trained guys. That's at my leisure as well, unless
(30:21):
we're in season. So I don't have the stresses of
can I pay my bills or can I do this
or that? That s ages you. It ages you when
you're stressed out about where's your next meal coming from,
How I'm gonna pay these bills. That's gonna aid you.
So when I see people that I went to school
and be like, man, you chose wrong. I tried to
(30:41):
talk to you back then. You didn't want me. I
wasn't good enough for you. I wasn't good looking enough
for you. Whatever it was. You chose this guy right here,
you chose you chose this guy over me. Look how
good I look right now? Look at my shoes. My
shoes are new, like you tell them that you brought back.
I mean, I'd never left, sexy, never left. You just
(31:04):
didn't see it. You just didn't see it. And now
you got to deal with it. Jonas, what do you say?
I just say, you know, in my downtime, I left,
you know, stacked and jacked. I mean, you know, I
find something and just try and move it. Humble right,
humble knocks. You know, I had an observation, que about
(31:24):
about Mr Jonas all right, when when when you are
one of one and that value is one of one,
you make sure that you know it's one of one. Right,
So here's my observation. It's like, huh, I was thinking
about like the big names on on our you know,
the big shows on our network. It's like Colin show
is called what the Herd? Right, Dan Patrick show is
(31:48):
called what the Dan Patrick Show? You know the keyword
and and and those titles. Come on, que, do you
know what Jonas is? Twitter handle is? Okay? No, no, no, no, no, okay,
there you go. Okay. First of all, no I have
no no no no no no no no, I have
the actual Jonas knocks. Twitter is mine, but they won't
(32:10):
let me get access to it, and so yeah, so
it's mine. I set it up. That was my original
Twitter account, and then I got rid of it or
I changed my email, and then I've tried to get
my password back. I swear to god, I've tried to
get my password back. I've hit up Twitter about it,
no response. I really want to get in touch with Twitter.
I think I can help you there. Really, okay, are
(32:32):
you taking that? Are you buying that? I swear to God,
I's the Jonas, It's do she. I don't like it
at all. It's capitalized. The does capitalize. He doesn't minimize it.
He makes shorts maximize so that it's the Jonas capitalized
is in all situation there, And that's why he can't
(32:53):
have the conversation of relating with the common person because
you don't relate to them. You make it sound like
you do. But you know who, I'm more relatable to
the normal everyday person than you are because they don't
know what you are. At least you know what I am.
I'm gonna relate to you, and I'm gonna tell you like, yeah,
we were late, we good, this, that and the other.
All right, I'm gonna check you out. I drive a
relatable car. I don't drive. I don't drive expensive cars.
(33:14):
I don't know. My house is dope, Like, come over
my house, my house and dope. I was a part
of a mass notable. It was a mass. It was
it was suicide two KOI fish your ted Bundy. I
can't even do that. I tried to save. I tried.
(33:39):
I got tried that hard, bro. You were doing about
about the mouth. I tried. I wasn't going to mouth.
I was glad watching them go belly that though, I
really was. That was the greatest thing. So that's still
the best story you've ever It's it's very traumatic, honestly.
(33:59):
I could have. I just I don't. I couldn't imagine
having a coy pond in my house. Roscoe Dash was
out of there, man, you know, orange orange, old yellow.
Like I know some really really wealthy guys that Joe
Thomas has made a ton of money. He'll be a
First Ball Hall of Famer. He never had a coy
or river it his house. It's very peaceful. I used
(34:21):
to just sit there during my downtime and ponder things. Wow,
they would come up to me and want food, and
you know, it's just very peaceful to hear the water
and to see them swimming. It's just peaceful in your house.
I had a disco ball to you know how people
had big chandeliers. I had a big gas disco ball. Man. Alright,
so we've got ourselves a potential a potential star landing
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That was his first visit, right, So hey, what's his
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saying a deal is on the way and in the works,
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I mean to go to Beckham's driver. I mean, where
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Should have been driving then, not on a plane. What
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(37:58):
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blood is coagulated. Yeah, you got to coagulate it. Yeah,
I clot it. So they isn't that the same thing?
I don't know. One word sounds a lot more complicated,
but so how you spell coagulate, I don't know. By
the way, he's uh in this picture, so he had
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I guess that means he's not pregnant. Oh my god.
It's definitely coagulates. C O A g U l A.
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(39:04):
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fired their head coach and their offensive coordinator this season
(01:26):
because man oh man, that would suck if they still
had struggles on offense. That would really suck. If if
you had clock management issues, you know, at the end
of the game, not want to use any of them.
Not I mean, and watch though, all right, who's that on?
(01:48):
Mostly I'll put it this, that's on a head coach,
game management, clock management. I mean you, it's some systems.
The quarterback will also be out there as well, but
you know you've got an inexperienced play caller who Jeff
Saturday elevated after they you know, you had Jimmversy fired.
The ROC wasn't calling plays anyways, and then he fired
(02:10):
Frank Reik and then it fell on a Jeff Saturday
to make a hire with someone on the staff, right,
you can't bring someone in cold. It doesn't even know
the offense of the personnel. So it falls on you know,
basically Jeff Saturday and the o C that he elevated
shows to be in that situation. You want to hear
Jeff Saturday's explanation for the clock management issues or all right,
(02:31):
So here was the colds head coach, former ESPN employee.
I thought we had plenty of time. I wasn't really
concerned we still had time out. I really wanted, you know,
when he was going down, I couldn't tell where they
were going to start him from going down right like
he was gonna get the first down. I expect this
to get on the ball and have another play a
little bit quicker than that. But again, this wasn't a
press for time. We just didn't make enough place down
(02:55):
a touchdown. He thought, like, what thirty seconds is a
lot of time? Maybe not with a running attack. By
the way, like you know, they kept showing the Peyton
and him exchange of you know, him telling Peyton and
running the ball and Peyton tell like, here's what's funny
to me? Right, Because first off, everybody thinks I'm a
Jeff Saturday fan. I'm not a Jeff Saturday fan. I'm
(03:16):
a fan of the fact that he's a former player
and got an opportunity to coach, and I hope that
it works so other players may get the same opportunity
afford it to them. Let's let's make sure we're clear
on that. Then the second part of it is you're
watching it coming in and they kept showing him and
Peyton Man and going back and forth like it was funny,
Like like ha ha ha, this is a laughable moment
(03:36):
Peyton and Jeff Saturday. This gives Jeff Saturday some credibility
because he's going back and forth with Peyton and then
you see Tyreek jump up, tell Peyton to get away.
Dotta dot this and another. But if you're listening to
the exchange and you're really paying attention, it's an indictment
on Jeff Saturday. It's an indictment on Jeff Saturday because
(03:56):
your quarterback is telling you, listen, we're going to run
the ball. But what did he say to him? Q
freaking block when we're passing block when we're passing Jeff. Hey, Jeff,
how about you block? So he's calling out Jeff for oh,
(04:17):
you want to run the ball, and and whoever the
producers are, and god bless whoever said pull that film
and use that footage. But you're basically showing Jeff Saturday
having a fit and a temper tandrum because he wants
to run the ball. He wants us, he wants to
run block and he doesn't want to pass block. Which
is interesting because then they did make the point in which, okay,
(04:39):
here it is. You made the point that Jeff Saturday
is going to run the ball. With Jonathan Taylor, you're
going to run the ball. Okay, they ran the ball.
They ran the ball, and they didn't throw the ball
too bad. It wasn't too bad, but it wasn't It
was not the type of offensive scheme against a of
(05:00):
a Pittsburgh Steeler team that does have a good defense
but has been susceptible to to offenses overwhelming them this year.
I don't understand why, and and maybe I'm off on this,
but I don't understand why his play calling was so conservative.
(05:20):
It was super conservative, and I thought it was pretty
interesting because now, like you know, things are settling in
he's starting to be a coach and and now it's
coaching against coaching and he's lost to in a row.
I don't think it's super conservative, maybe because of his,
you know, perspective as a player. And this is one
(05:41):
of the reasons why I'm not an advocate for former
players coaching necessarily. I think that's where we get things
wrong because a lot of former players don't see their
blind spots and they don't understand They're not self aware
enough to understand perspective, Like they can't see the game
and its entirety. They only see it from their perspective
as a form or player from the position in which
(06:02):
they played. So we talked about what was the big
differences When Jeff said it took over his head coach, uh,
he gave Jonathan Taylor the football more. Shocking as an
offensive lineman, to give your best running back the ball more. Okay,
Like that's not a drastic change or one that's mind
boggling in any way. It's it's something that you would expect, right,
Like Johnathan is one of your best players, probably should
(06:23):
have been running in more of the season. Maybe he
wasn't pcent healthy. You know, maybe earlier when Frank Reich
was the head coach, maybe he couldn't run him as
much as you wanted to because he was on a
pitch count. Uh. You know, they had bench Matt Ryan.
Matt Ryan comes back in. Now Matt Ryan's not playing
quite as well. So you start looking at some of
the reasons, you know, what led to their season to
that point of Jim Mercy firing Frank Reich. They're all
(06:45):
rearing their ugly head after what was a nice little
two games stretch of some tough games. Because they're a
good football team as far as their personnel, but they
just haven't been able to put everything altogether. But but
I think if you look at Jeff Saturday and why
play calling looks more conservative. What you hired a guy
who's got no experience calling plays. You know, you brought
in a guy who you know then is elevating a
(07:07):
younger kid, he's like thirty years old, who's calling plays,
and so he's as an offensive alignment outside of look
at the play clock. He's never really had to worry
about clock management, not like a quarterback has, not like
a coach has. So I kind of look at it
and think like I'm all for merit Like meritocracy in
this world has just gone out the window where we
(07:29):
don't we usually don't look at guys for what they
do well. We're trying to make a case for why
they should get the shot or why they should get
a job. No, it's it's it's like, have you proven
you can do it? Have you actually done it before?
Like there is something too that I know this one
gotten away from meritocracy, but it's what made America great
(07:51):
is our ability to say no, Like, but we're just
gonna pick the best guy for the job. And maybe
Jim Mercy feels like Jeff Saturday is that. But doing
this during the season, and I think this is where
I've been critical of the whole hiring. You know, portion
of this is you brought in a guy with no
experience at the NFL level, no experience at the college level.
Yes he played, that's great, but why not wait until
(08:12):
the off season to do that, you know, hire someone
who's on the staff. Now, get through this season, maybe
you lose enough games, you're in a great draft position,
and you go get a franchise player. And then you
go when you hire Jeff Saturday, and you give him
that opportunity to hire the staff that he wants, not
a staff that's hanging over because of you know, what
Frank Reich had. And then you give him opportunities to
(08:34):
go through situational awareness as a head coach and prepare
for in games scenarios and prepare for how different it
is and the different conversations that you're having as a
head coach as opposed to what he's been accustomed to.
So I just I think we're starting to see, you know, unfortunately,
the true colors jonas of where this team's appening. You know,
it's fine. I wonder how pot committed Jim rcay is
(08:56):
to Jeff Saturday like, and does Jim Satday go to six?
And if you look at their remaining schedule, Indianapolis has
got a rough go. They're at Dallas, at Minnesota next,
they got the Chargers and the Giants. I mean, probably
not going to be favorite in any of those games.
And then you finish up with the Texans, and we
all know what the Texans are, So say your Texans
(09:16):
might get you a late late season win two though
they could. Yeah, that's the thing about a team like
that that last game might be important enough for them
to play hard. So let's say they're two and six
after eight games, with all the blowback and all the
celebration that Jim er Say got after they beat the
Raiders in his first game, does he just out of
spite wanting to prove that his method had some success
(09:38):
at some level? Do you think Jim er Say just
rolls with Jeff Saturday. They use queues reasoning and say,
we couldn't make it through the season, but now we
have to go through the process of allowing him to
do all those things that you just said first, I
mean that that would be the justification of bringing him
back if that were if that were off, is he
(10:00):
did then just utilize the loophole in the Rooty rule,
and that me b Yes, he did. Like that to
me is bs because you one didn't open yourself up
to listen to other people who maybe, by the way,
a former player and much more qualified. Indeed, because how
many of those guys we got right now in the league, LaVar,
Not many? I mean there's a lot of guys. Position coaches. Yeah, absolutely,
(10:23):
coordinators too, There's coordinators who have played and who could
be good head coaches. To so, I just that's what
ticks me off. Is he wanted and really this is
just about him stirring the issue to put in one
of his buddies to go coach, and that ticks me off.
I just don't see that. But if that became a trend,
that would be a wild ass trend. If just to
(10:45):
beat the loophole, the Roooney rule, you're gonna get rid
of your coach mid season, I would hope this is
is not a trend. Well, they've already tried to Uh
is it the nfl p A that looked into it
and is trying to find a way to correct that.
They've They've already sent in a request in the NFL.
I think it might be in the nfl P. I
might have that wrong, honestly, Like, let's be real here,
(11:07):
how do you correct that? If you if you if
you fired the guy, and you don't have time, like
you don't have time to go through no crazy ass
process to hire coach. You got to get a coach
in there right now, Like, Hey, Steve Wilkes, I mean
give the guy credit for the bag of crap he
got in Arizona his first year and then having to
(11:27):
take over this Carolina team. Where have they got three
wins since he's taken over in the same quarterback Charcon
the crap by the way, Yeah he just started another quarterback,
Starnald's healthy, but they speak the crap out of the Broncos.
So I mean, you know, good for Steve Wilkes, but
I just he's saying, let's ride now. But I'm just saying,
how do you go through if if you feel like
(11:47):
you want that to be your coach and it's because
of the way they came through the rest of the season,
how I mean, how do you navigate saying that you well,
you have to go through the entire process all over again.
Like you can do that. You can do that. But
that's literally just like right now and listen, I'm just
gonna shoot from from the hip. It's a formality, just
(12:11):
like when you're doing it in in regular time. It's
a formality. You already have an idea of who your
prospects are that you want to hire. Now, it would
be nice if meritocracy played a part in it, and
when you sat down and you talked about things and
you discuss things in the way they said that Mike
Tomlin was able to get the job in Pittsburgh. That
that's how it would happen. But it is called the
(12:33):
Rooney rule, so how fitting that it happened in Pittsburgh.
But that's just not going Hey listen, and for what
it's worth, that's not gonna be what it's gonna be
for a white dude, uh, black dude, a Mexican dude, Hispanic, Asian,
you name it. It's not gonna be that for them.
Because these these owners and whoever these gms or whoever
(12:54):
it is that are in the hiring process had their
idea of who they want to hire based upon reference
referral and and here we go, here we go to
them merit. The merit to them is why they want
to hire these guys in particular. So it's kind of
almost like a joke to me when people get so
thrown into there has to be the process, the Rooney
(13:17):
rule has to be there, like it is a loophole.
But be clear, it's not that big of a loophole.
Here's here's why I don't like it. Though. If you're
in any other enterprise and and either you're you know
that you have certain regulations you have to abide by etcetera. Right, Um,
you know one, you're subject to that, You're subject to
scrutiny from that. But also like, if you make enough
(13:39):
wrong hires your business, your operations will not work right
like you will not work. You will lose your company.
You will lose your company. You'll either go out of
business or there'll be some sort of hostile takeover with
a board and then they'll move on from you. It
will not happen in the NFL. You could be the
worst owner in the league. And I don't ask you guys, like,
(14:02):
who do you guys think of the worst owner of
the league. Well, you know who I think, I says
a little little. I mean, did you see the Sean
Taylor statue. I mean that's what they called it, Like
a mannequin with missing cards ghost, a wire mannequin for
sant Like, you've leveraged Sean since he's passed away. You've
(14:24):
leveraged him for good will every single year, and now
you try to leverage him again with a wire. So
let's take a little Danny boy. Yeah, so as bad
as he's been as an owner, he's still still hous
teams and he's gonna sell it for billions only because
of how awful he had actually run his organization for
(14:45):
what over two decades, But like he had, he's forced
to buy other owners. It's such a unique, rare scenario
we almost nearly we never see it. And and they
don't even want to force him to. They don't want
about the got on that absolutely. But my point is
this is they could be an awful owner. They could
be awful at hiring coaches, hiring general managers, running the
(15:09):
actual organization. They'll still make money because that's how the
NFL work. How many million watched Dallas New York? I mean,
you can't make this stuff up. How many businesses outside
of football where you know everybody it's everybody's business, you
know what I mean, Like it's everybody, like everybody knows
(15:31):
you know what I mean. Like the idea is right
that that's what they get. They do get that opportunity
where they could stink and still make money off of it.
So that but that's where I think it's different from
the hiring process, because you're right, like if you have
a private owner of any bites, still tell you why
the hell am I going to listen to some someone else?
Tell me who I think I should hire like I'm
(15:51):
not going to do that, and so I get that perspective.
But there still as a perspective that owner makes enough
bad hires and his company continues to go downhill, he'll
be out of business. And that's how it works. But
you know these owners aren't subject to that because of
how good the NFL isn't making money. Yeah, it's they
created it. It's two pros and their granddad's he inherited it.
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So Aaron Rodgers has got does he have a punctured lung?
Or does he not have a punctured lung? Like, what's
what's the answer here? What are the results? Like? What's
going on here? I mean like he would say he
has a punctured lung even if he doesn't have a
punctured lung, just because you don't want to play him again,
let him down. The funny thing about that is, um,
(18:48):
you know, when you like tweak a hamstring, like, oh,
it's different grades of of a hamstrings here, right, Like
you either have your lung punctured or not. Right Like,
It's like you either pop the balloon or he didn't.
I feel like it's kind of it's kind of pretty
cut and dry. But I guess they did some tests.
They said it wasn't he wanted to do further tests
forever reason, I don't. I don't know, um, I mean,
(19:10):
if you're the team in this case, I mean, I'm
not sure why, and they do have a great medical
staff up there in Green Bay, believe it or not,
But why wouldn't you have his best interest in mind?
The other guy a hundred and fifty million dollars if
he had some sort of debilitating injury to you know,
would force him not to ever play again, or there's
a medical malpractice or misdiagnosis. I mean, could you imagine
(19:32):
how much you're on the hook for you just sign
him to a hundred fifty million dollar, fully guaranteed deal.
So UM, I would think that that that they're trying
to give him the best medical advice they can. That's
just my opinion. Punctured. Let it be punctured. Yeah, yeah,
give him time to hell yeah, because at the end
of the day, you'll do you'll do another analysis of it,
(19:55):
you'll do more testing of it. And I say, you
revisit testing it and like three to four weeks, four
or five weeks, you know, six weeks, six weeks. What
do you know? You know you're talking Valentine's Day. I
think we're ready for our next Mr. I what do
you know? Seasons say, hey, you know, that's how it happens.
Sometimes you gotta heal up. Though you got a great
(20:16):
bill of health. You're good now. Matt Lafloor says that
he is going to be the starter if he's healthy
this weekend. So there's that from Matt Lafloor. What do
you guys want to see? Because for entertainment purposes, I'm
a lot more interested in seeing Jordan's love play at
this point than this season that I am. Aaron Rodgers.
Roll out Jordan's love. Let's see what we got. We've
got five six games off, whatever it is, rull them out,
(20:38):
that's who we got. Turn that into a punctured lung.
I'm with LaVar, were just round up a little bit.
We do it sometimes it's okay, round up a little bit, rot.
You have done so many amazing things. I would use
his his speech coming into training camp the year before
to to drive home the point that listen, people come
(21:02):
here because of you. This team is what it is
because of you. Everything about green Bay is because about
it's it's you, and you're deserving of a break like
you're green Bay. You're gonna always be green Bay. Go
go take a break like we we get it and
(21:22):
and and come back with a burr for next year.
Come back, come back with a burr in your your
tail to play well next year. Now, whether you have
any intentions of bringing him back or not, or trying
to get from underneath the contract or whatever it is,
you're going to try to figure it out. You you
cross that bridge when you get there. But as of
for now, gass him up. All he wants. It is
(21:43):
a little bit of of reassurance and you know, reinforcement
that he's Aaron Rodgers. Give him that, and and let
him get healthy and and let him have some time away.
Now he can. Now you can do it, and people
aren't going to be up in arms about you doing it.
I don't see why they don't try to make this
work on both sides. I don't see why Aaron Rodgers
wouldn't be a party to it, like I'm gonna go
(22:06):
take this time. I'm Aaron Rodgers. I mean, maybe it's
because Rogers feels like, well, I've got the Bears this week,
and you know, and yeah, so why not let's just
give it one more spin and then uh and then
after that maybe we'll shut it down. But it just
I I just want to see Jordan's Love with a
(22:26):
few games, because look, he showed some stuff on Sunday
night to where you thought, all right, well there's some
mobility that maybe Rogers doesn't have at this point in
his career. With Jordan's Love, he was making some plays
all of a sudden. Christian Wattson has turned into a
legitimate touchdown threat every time he gets the ball in
his hand. Seemingly when he does catch it, it just
feels like why, like, let's just you know, I mean,
(22:49):
we we've known what the what the Packer season was
going to be for several weeks once he was dealing
with the broken thumb, and then you saw them lose
all those games in a row. It was like well, now,
but they can still go on a run and still
go to a run, and then you look at their
schedule the rest of the way and you go, now, man,
it's over. They know it's over. Matt Lafloor knows it's over.
Packers fans know it's over. It's a lost season. So
(23:10):
if it's a last season, let's try and gain something
from it, and let's see what we got in Jordan's Love,
create some trade value or a pathway forward. It's a
win win situation. The only way you lose is if
if Jordan's Love is a complete bust and and and
how he plays, and I didn't look like that was
going to be the case. I mean, he should be
(23:31):
at least formidable, and we're gonna find out if he's formidable,
because I I would assume he's going to play this week.
I would assume that that Aaron Rodgers with the thumb
and the rib situation may not be ago this week.
I would assume that. I don't know what I'm basing
that off of, other than if I'm in pain, why
(23:53):
am I going to push through these pain, this pain
with this this season? Why am I going to do that?
That's how I would be looking at it if I'm
Aaron Rodgers. Where I'm at right now? My vantage point?
Why am I going out here where they playing? It
doesn't even matter where they're playing. It's going to be cold.
It's going to be cold as hell. Whoa, whoa, you're
(24:14):
talking to a bearrass fan al right in one snocks.
It matters where they play, doesn't it. Jonas said, it's
going to be cold as hell no matter where they play.
At this time of the year, it's going to be
cold as hell in Chicago. What's the It might even
be raining. And if it's raining, then his cartilage is
gonna hurt you as lungs gonna hurt even more. His
thumb is going to hurt even more. Now we're looking
at thirty nine degree temperatures right now, and that's cold.
(24:36):
But that ain't horribly that's not horribly bad. As long
as it's dry, that's not bad. I don't I just
I don't know. You have the problem. In Chicago, they
always say, if you don't like the weather, wait a minute,
because you know you're on the lake front there and
all of a sudden the wind starts to pick up.
Maybe it gets a little bit of a little bit
of moisture in the air. Who knows raining snow possibility?
I mean, come on like this, Uh, I just I
(24:57):
just want to see because there was you guys have
mentioned this. I think it was Brady yesterday who had
mentioned that the guys have probably seen Mike White on
the practice squad and and have gone against him and said, Hey,
this guy's got the goods. Why don't we go with him?
And there were some Packer players who are being interviewed
a few weeks ago and they all are speaking highly
(25:18):
of Jordan's love. We see him in practice. He's a
starting quarterback in this league. He's got the goods. I
just I wonder what percentage of Packer fans would also
at this point like to see at least what they got,
because if he goes out and he plays well, I
don't think Rogers walks away this year. I think he's
probably back with the Packers. But at least Green Bay knows, okay,
that is the future, and that's who we can roll
(25:39):
in can actively move off of the information. If you
don't have the information, then how do you how do
you approach actively? What are we keeping? Are we trying
to make sure Aaron Rodgers comes back. Are we trying
to move him? You can come up with a plan,
a strategy if you know what you have in your
draft pick that you brought in two replaces him in
(26:00):
the first place. Do you think Rogers plays beyond next year?
Brady Um, I hope he does. Look. I think he's
in an incredible talent at the position, So I hope
he does. Even if it's not Green Bay, even if
they work it out, where he goes somewhere else. I mean,
it would be interesting if his entire master plan was
(26:21):
to get the contract that he wanted to then move
on to somewhere else where he wanted to finish his career,
if he didn't want to fish, that would brilliant. Yeah.
Maybe that's what the Ayahuasca bron I don't know, but
it is just interesting now when you look at a
couple of places. You have San Francisco, who was rumored
to have been trading for him, and that's where some
(26:43):
of the frustration began because the Packers didn't go through
with the deal. You wonder if if that truly was
where he wanted to go, or a destination he wanted
to go to. And who wouldn't. By the way, um
that's the hottest team in the NFL right now, probably
next to the Eagles. And I think you'd have to
look at that and say if if Jimmy garob was
a free agent. And I know they invested a lot
(27:05):
in Trey Lance, but that's still a wild card out there,
and who knows if he'll ever become the guy they thought,
you know, they drafted him to be. But if you
could have a shot at Aaron Rodgers, as much as
that organization has gone through their ups and downs, if
Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't gonna stay or they wanted to move
on from him, yeah, that might be a movie you
go after. You know, I think you have to, and
(27:28):
Rogers would would would be really good in that system.
But um, I just I don't know. I mean, like
I said, I think it's it's it'd be tough to
think of a league without Tom Brady and eventually that
day is gonna come. It's tough to think of a
league without Aaron Rodgers, and that's eventually gonna come. So
whether it's the Packers or someone else, like I would
love for him to be back next year, Um, hopefully things,
(27:49):
you know, get off to a better start than what
we saw this year. By the way, is it mirre
the older quarterbacks in the league looking old this year?
Like Brady at times? I mean Matt last night. I
mean everyone is different, you know, like you go out
to like LaVar, I mean, come on, you go to
like a high school reunion or called, you know, you
(28:10):
go back at the Penn State and you see people
you go, oh, hey, okay, all right, and you see
other people who go, oh my god, what the hell happened?
Do you think that's it? Yeah? I just think it's genetics. Man. Stop.
Sometimes road Shopper used always telling me and I was yeah.
He goes, say, chops, I got a secret for you.
(28:30):
So what's that? He goes, I want to be able
to look into the future. I go, yeah, I'm thinking myself,
like what is he about? Ready to tell me right now?
Like what did he do? Overnom? And he goes, if
you really like a girl, he goes, if you really
want to look in the future, just meet her mom
or ask her that's how Yeah, okay, that's that's our
(28:53):
regional values. Look at them all. Well, my mom my
mother in law is bad as hell badly to day.
She's still a smoke show to day. But I got money.
Always people be like, man, you look so good, I said,
because I got money. I don't have the same stress
as you have. I have stress, but it ain't the
(29:14):
same as yours. Like I wake up. You got to
clean your gutters, So do I. You gotta go clean
your gutters. I get somebody to clean my gut. I
wake up. It's like, dang, my house is is it
needs to be picked up. You have to pick up
that house. I have somebody who picks up my house.
That's the thing about you. Humble. I am humble. I
am humble. I'm just telling you why I don't age
(29:37):
like I get I go. You know what I do
when I leave here. I leave here, I kiss my
family like good morning, have coffee with my wife. I
do my work like I work like I have other
things that I work on. I'm an entrepreneur. And I
sit down and I do that, and then I try
to figure out what I want to do with myself
(29:57):
in that that downtime of what I'm feeling, and and
that could be a nap, that could be watching a
movie that could be exercising. It's it's basically what I
wanted to be the rest of the day, like the
entire day. I do hits for television. Uh, coach football.
I trained guys. That's at my leisure as well, unless
(30:21):
we're in season. So I don't have the stresses of
can I pay my bills or can I do this
or that? That s ages you. It ages you when
you're stressed out about where's your next meal coming from,
How I'm gonna pay these bills. That's gonna aid you.
So when I see people that I went to school
and be like, man, you chose wrong. I tried to
(30:41):
talk to you back then. You didn't want me. I
wasn't good enough for you. I wasn't good looking enough
for you. Whatever it was. You chose this guy right here,
you chose you chose this guy over me. Look how
good I look right now? Look at my shoes. My
shoes are new, like you tell them that you brought back.
I mean, I'd never left, sexy, never left. You just
(31:04):
didn't see it. You just didn't see it. And now
you got to deal with it. Jonas, what do you say?
I just say, you know, in my downtime, I left,
you know, stacked and jacked. I mean, you know, I
find something and just try and move it. Humble right,
humble knocks. You know, I had an observation, que about
(31:24):
about Mr Jonas all right, when when when you are
one of one and that value is one of one,
you make sure that you know it's one of one. Right,
So here's my observation. It's like, huh, I was thinking
about like the big names on on our you know,
the big shows on our network. It's like Colin show
is called what the Herd? Right, Dan Patrick show is
(31:48):
called what the Dan Patrick Show? You know the keyword
and and and those titles. Come on, que, do you
know what Jonas is? Twitter handle is? Okay? No, no, no, no, no, okay,
there you go. Okay. First of all, no I have
no no no no no no no no, I have
the actual Jonas knocks. Twitter is mine, but they won't
(32:10):
let me get access to it, and so yeah, so
it's mine. I set it up. That was my original
Twitter account, and then I got rid of it or
I changed my email, and then I've tried to get
my password back. I swear to god, I've tried to
get my password back. I've hit up Twitter about it,
no response. I really want to get in touch with Twitter.
I think I can help you there. Really, okay, are
(32:32):
you taking that? Are you buying that? I swear to God,
I's the Jonas, It's do she. I don't like it
at all. It's capitalized. The does capitalize. He doesn't minimize it.
He makes shorts maximize so that it's the Jonas capitalized
is in all situation there, And that's why he can't
(32:53):
have the conversation of relating with the common person because
you don't relate to them. You make it sound like
you do. But you know who, I'm more relatable to
the normal everyday person than you are because they don't
know what you are. At least you know what I am.
I'm gonna relate to you, and I'm gonna tell you like, yeah,
we were late, we good, this, that and the other.
All right, I'm gonna check you out. I drive a
relatable car. I don't drive. I don't drive expensive cars.
(33:14):
I don't know. My house is dope, Like, come over
my house, my house and dope. I was a part
of a mass notable. It was a mass. It was
it was suicide two KOI fish your ted Bundy. I
can't even do that. I tried to save. I tried.
(33:39):
I got tried that hard, bro. You were doing about
about the mouth. I tried. I wasn't going to mouth.
I was glad watching them go belly that though, I
really was. That was the greatest thing. So that's still
the best story you've ever It's it's very traumatic, honestly.
(33:59):
I could have. I just I don't. I couldn't imagine
having a coy pond in my house. Roscoe Dash was
out of there, man, you know, orange orange, old yellow.
Like I know some really really wealthy guys that Joe
Thomas has made a ton of money. He'll be a
First Ball Hall of Famer. He never had a coy
or river it his house. It's very peaceful. I used
(34:21):
to just sit there during my downtime and ponder things. Wow,
they would come up to me and want food, and
you know, it's just very peaceful to hear the water
and to see them swimming. It's just peaceful in your house.
I had a disco ball to you know how people
had big chandeliers. I had a big gas disco ball. Man. Alright,
so we've got ourselves a potential a potential star landing
(34:44):
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(36:32):
Giants on Thursday and Friday, and if you have uh
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how is he getting to these visits. Yeah, that's a
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trouble with with the airlines, but he does have a visit.
He's trying to get an app I'm saying, like the
(36:54):
fly and get from destination. The destination was just gonna
that one franchise, the the Clintsters, you know, the Miami Clintsters.
That was his first visit, right, So hey, what's his
driver saying? Lee? Is he giving us the what's his name?
Gamble on it? Danny Boy hustle Hard has posted several
(37:14):
pictures that suggest he could be heading back to the Giants,
saying a deal is on the way and in the works,
watch me work, says Danny Boy hustle Hard um, and
he tagged Giants wide receiver David Stills saying, I love
you and everything, my brother. We gotna need that third
team back. I'm asking politely, Okay, So there it is.
I mean to go to Beckham's driver. I mean, where
(37:35):
was his driver when he was passed out on a
flight under a blanket and he refused to buckle a seatbelt.
Should have been driving then, not on a plane. What
else we got hustle Hard, Guys Canada's World Cup captain
played with a tampon hanging out of his nose this
week after getting a bloody nose. Yeah, the lots of
pictures have gone viral of team captain. Got to coagulate
(37:58):
the bleeding. You know while you're running, you know your
blood is coagulated. Yeah, you got to coagulate it. Yeah,
I clot it. So they isn't that the same thing?
I don't know. One word sounds a lot more complicated,
but so how you spell coagulate, I don't know. By
the way, he's uh in this picture, so he had
(38:19):
the string hanging out and everything in his nose. Um,
you gotta be able to pull it back out. I mean,
I guess that means he's not pregnant. Oh my god.
It's definitely coagulates. C O A g U l A.
TV I just want to be is not entertaining by
(38:44):
any means. I love like the kid's reactions. I get
so stressed out when I watched those. Exactly when you
watch it, you have to kind of watch it. I
feel like it's why those kids getting stressed out because
they're about to do you guys, see, there's a Darrell
Taylor who ran off the sidelines today end of the
pick in Seattle. Oh yeah, he's like, he ran on
(39:04):
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was over. He thought the play was over and nobody
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