December 13, 2022 • 41 mins
The Bengals are clearly the best in the AFC North, but have the Ravens hit their ceiling with Lamar Jackson? The Cowboys sign T.Y. Hilton and the Bills sign Cole Beasley, leaving less options for OBJ. Plus, a lookback on Monday Night Football with the Prop Bet Monster.
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The little game we played, oh yeah, that's all. That's
just kind of funny. It's kind of funny. Off the air,
off the air. Yeah, yeah, that was a good game.
Some of these. I mean, there was literally only two questionables,
and it's only because I'm just not aware of them.
The on air game yesterday went well, I thought. But
also the Brown's quarterback and uh, you know the camp game. Yeah,
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that one, I thought one pretty well. Um, people actually
caught onto that. I was surprised, whoa did the Yeah shocking?
That play? It on pretty thick all right, So, um,
Monday Night football last night. The New England Patriots get
it done. But the story of that game is Kyler
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Murray's injury early on third play from scrimmage for the Cardinals.
It was a third play, got third play for the Cardinals.
Kyler Murray scrambled, went down non contact injury. Knew it immediately.
Everybody on the field knew it immediately. He was taken off.
He was emotional, and the expectation is after they're going
to get an m R later on today. But the
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expectation is they fully expect that it's going to be
an a c L tear. Obviously, season over and now
we go into whatever the hell this is going to
be the rest of the way for the Arizona Cardinals
and into the off season. That whole discussion when it
comes to the Patriots. What are the Patriots because right
now they are the seventh seed in the a f C. Now,
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they were a wild card team last year in the
a f C and got absolutely sand blasted by the
Bills in that playoff game. They got sand blast. I
don't even know what that term means, but I've heard
it before and I thought it was funny. So what
are I mean? What is new England? Are They kind
of been no man's land to where they don't really
have the quarterback to compete with with the top tier
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teams and they're just kinda they're not making the playoffs.
We don't need to have this discussion. They're not making it,
no chance whatsoever. They gotta go back to back weeks
on the road in the West Coast. Right now, they
gotta out and play Las Vegas next week. Um, I
think they would up losing that game, and then I
think you gotta play Cincinnati. Miami had Buffalo to finish,
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and I keep, I keep referring to that number one
overall seed and how important it is only because Casey
and Buffalo are neck and neck, and so I don't
know that a Buffalo can afford to take any game
off in Week eighteen or their seventeenth game because of
how tight that's gonna be with Kansas City. So I
think they'll probably play their starters. And you know, you'd
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have to give Josh Allen at home a big advantage
over the New England Patriots on what this team looks like.
Even with the win last night, you know, you kind
of go back and all right, they had a missfield
goal early for for Arizona, you know, a few gaffs
or or missed opportunities here and there, mostly versus cold McCoy,
you know, offensively, where you'd expect him not to go
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in there and have the same type of you know,
preparedness or or rhythm and timing within the offense like
Murray would have had in preparation for this game. So
I look at and go, their schedule is really tough.
The rest of the way I think it. I mean,
I don't know how you guys handicap it, but you've
got two of four on the road. I think every
single team you play, with the exception of the Raiders,
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is gonna be a playoff team. And so I would
say it's it's probably fair to say they could go
one in three in the final, you know, four games,
and that gets made and nine and that's not getting
it done none to a f C. So I mean,
I kinda I tend to agree, but I do give
it a little bit more hope. I think there is
more of a glimmer than that. I just as easily
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as they could go through this stretch and only get
one win, I think they could go through the stretch
and and grab two to three and and then now
the question becomes is two to three wins down that
stretch of four? Um? You know, is that is that
enough to get in? How many teams are what teams
in the a f C are legitimate Super Bowl caliber teams?
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The chief it seems like there's three. All right, Let's
go through Ksey Buffalo and sense Buffalo sense, and that's it.
I would agree with that. Well, the problem is you've
got like Tennessee in a position where they're gonna win
their division. So you know, you you could say they're
not a legit playoffs are fraudulent. I said, you said
not legitam is Tennessee a fraudulent team? I mean the
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fraudulent get the playoffs go anywhere? Yeah, but they like
they're not a consistent They're not a consistent team. They
fired their GM. Everything's fine, that was the problem. Everything. Yeah,
everything's good in Tennessee. It just feels like Buffalo, Kansas
City and Cincinnati have separated themselves. I would have said Baltimore,
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but man, that is not a not an ideal situation
at quarterback right now, and Baltimore feels like they're just
hanging on at this point, and it feels like it's
only a matter of time before since he overtakes that
division and then Baltimore is a wild card team and
then you just see kind of what you got. But
it does feel like Buffalo Kansas City, since he are
the legitimate Super Bowl teams and caliber teams in the
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a f C, and everybody else is just kind of Okay,
it's cute, Like Miami feels like it's been exposed a
little bit here weeks. I mean, and I don't know
what what to make of Baltimore. Who had Baltimore going
to the Super Bowl? I had the charge there not good.
H They're not bad, but they are far from good.
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They're like and then they don't even have Lamar right now,
it's this, it's yeah, the as It's interesting because the
a f C is very top heavy. I would have
thought that there would have been more really good teams
in in the a f C. You're gonna have Tennessee
and Baltimore get in just based upon them head unless
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the Bengals take over the spot and and get that
seat as the winner of the a f C North.
But I mean you you potentially right now, the Baltimore
Ravens are in the first position for the a f
C North and they're not even the best team in
in their conference right now? Is that the worst pool
or the best pool position? Is that how you describe it?
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It could be, It could be. I mean, Cincinnati is
in the best best position of everyone. Is there is
there a bad pole position? Yeah? Hell yeah, there's a
bad Yes, that's why you got it, like race for it, don't.
You got to go out and get get times so
that you know where you're going to be at and
you know position. Yeah, I mean you start from the back.
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It's hard, hard at the top. Happy Holidays. I don't
put that on you because you already one. That why
you walk that one into the room. And my dumbass
sitting here just continuing to talk about it. You know what?
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Forget you Joe. That's first of all. That that was
all the way. First of all, I just I've been
working at Brady way too long when I know he's
ready to get This all actually started with LaVar when
he started talking about pole position and then I don't
know how we say we did in the poll Assassin.
Then that just now every time you say pulp position,
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that's all I think about that monkey. There's there's an
indicator when you know Brady's about ready to get grab assy,
because they'll go like this, huh. That's what I could
really tell you, guys, what I just thought that saying
what I'm thinking, I'm just saying, huh. Let me think
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of something clever to say. That isn't exactly what I
was going to say, um, by the way, you know,
since he's still getting plus money to win the division,
someone sprint to the window in bet right now. Honestly too,
I think Joe Burrow is gonna win the MVP, is
I believe? So? Yeah, It's like it just feels like
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since he's taken a turn, and like, what do you do,
Like if you're Baltimore, Like if say they go into
the postseason again this year and their one and done
or they win you know, they win one game and
then they're out in the divisional round. If they're a
wild card team, what's the plan because it feels like
you're just kind of getting to the same point every
single year and there's been no growth, Like there's been
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no like, no no getting past the first round. No
get it just feels like we're kind of at the
same point with Baltimore and then last year they didn't
make the playoffs. So like, what's the plan? If you're
the Ravens going to the off season, you're still you're
still giving them are of that contract, correct, I mean
you still want him around long term. I don't know.
It might be a franchise tag scenario just played out.
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It might I mean, the price tag will go up,
but wouldn't you want to be sure about the price
tag that you're gonna pay for an extended amount of
time versus pay a lesser amount. But in the end
you paid way more because you didn't get exactly what
it is you thought you were paying for. Yeah, I
almost feel like after this season it's a it was
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a bet on me season. If I were saying if
this was a success or failure for Lamar Jackson today,
right now I have to say it was a fail. Yeah,
he's not been good. It's been a fail. So now
he's dealing with with with a little bit of being
banged up. It's just that that makes it if if
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you're if you're to Baltimore, you know, Ravens, what are you?
What are you thinking? You know, I'm thinking, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I think the world of this is
if I'm I'm just saying in my mind, I'm getting
in the character here. I think the world of Lamar Jackson.
I love Lamar Jackson's demeanor. I love his approach. I
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love that he's got a little grit to him, a
lot of grit, a lot, a little bit of edge
to him. I like a lot of the things that
I see in Lamar Jackson giving him this this long
term contract, which would be what what we what will
we assume eight years something like that, five or six?
Five or six? Okay, So if we're gonna go over
another five to six at the highest of of highs
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in terms of a lot of guaranteed money. Uh, during
the course of this contract, am I am I there?
Am I there to make that commitment? Do all of
the positives that I feel in harbor for Lamar Jackson?
Do they outweigh any of the doubts, any of the
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you know, the drawbacks or whatever it could be considered
in giving this contract. You know, I think that there's
still I think there's more questions coming out of this season.
And I don't know that there were any questions coming
out of last season. And now you have questions coming
out of this season. So how do you approach that? Yeah,
it's uh. And and then you just look at kind
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of where they're at as if it is this are
we venturing into the dak Prescott territory where you look
at DAC and like we talked about it yesterday, you
still have some of those same questions about yeah, he's
a franchise quarterback. He gave him all that money, but
can you get past a certain point? And they haven't
been able to get past that certain point. And so
maybe that's the cautionary tale. If you're Baltimore, like, we'd
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like to sign you. Whatever they threw out there this offseason,
he is, and they couldn't get a deal done because
he was looking at the Deshaun Watson contract. And I
don't know that that Lamar Jackson has done anything this
season to warrant them going, you know what, you're right,
let's go and give you two thirty million dollars guaranteed
him getting hurt was the worst thing that could have
happened to him, because that was the greatest fear given
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what he's displayed since he's come into the league. And
where's that now? Meaning we all knew how dynamic he
would be as as someone who got outside the pocket
or designed quarterback run game. The problem is is you
wanted to see the growth as a passer, and it
doesn't matter who they've drafted a tight end or wide receiver.
It seems like whoever they bring in, what do they
have around him? It just doesn't work. And I think
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this year, at times we saw him play within the pocket.
You're like, man, he has not taken that next step
as a pocket passer, which only makes you feel like
we got to lean more into him running a bunch,
which leads to injuries. We saw injuries last year of
seeing injuries this year, So I think that's really hurt
his case for getting the type of old that he
probably wants. He could probably get a really two in
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or million dollar plus two and thirty million dollar deal,
it just might not have the guarantees that he wants
within it. But this this could be a scenario where
the Baltimore Ravens end up going the you know, the
franchise tag route. And I'm not saying that Dallas Cowboys
wish they would have done that with Dak, but maybe
this is where the Baltimore Ravens use multiple franchise tags.
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Which look, it's it's not the worst thing in the
world for the player. Um, you're getting paid a lot
of money for a guaranteed one year deal. It's not
great for the team either. I mean, you're obviously taking
a huge salary cap it, but you're you're invested into
the guy for that one year and you know potentially
another year. Um, but you know, long term, you're not
making that investment and you could still buy some more
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time if you you don't have that, there's questions in
your mind answered or you or you could prepare for
him to move on, you know, whether you find a
stop gap or you find someone in the draft that
you take and you really like to come in and
eventually replace them. So there's this obviously is gonna be
really really interesting to see how the Baltimore Ravens handled this.
But in the short term, I think they've got to
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be more concerned about like where where where are you?
You know? In the n f C North. I think
since Naty is the better team right now and they'll
probably win the division and that leaves Baltimore is a
wild card team, and that's depending on like when will
Lamar Jackson be back? Last time we heard John Harball
talk about and they kind of said, what was a
day to day, a week to week with one to
four weeks? Yeah, it looked like he was gonna be
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somewhere closer maybe four than one. So I just I
think it's a it's a tough It's a tough spot
obviously for Lamar to be in because I'm sure he
wants to be out there, but given that he's kind
of in a contract year, even though they can use
the tag on him, he can't really go anywhere. You know,
he doesn't want to go out there and not plays best.
And I think he's proved himself as an m v P,
a guy who get his team to the playoffs. He's
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won a ton of games because of his dynamic ability
running the football, but he hasn't been able to take
that next step as a passer, and so trying to
go and I prove that either to make a playoff
run or in the playoffs, it's a tough tough spot
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No smooth though it wasn't smooth, but it wasn't aggressive,
So I got a question for you guys. Remember the
three teams that Odell Beckham went on his tour with,
you know when he went on this little Cowboys and Rams, Giants,
Cowboys and Bills. All right, So the Dallas Cowboys went
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ahead and signed t Y Hilton yesterday, and the Buffalo
Bills have announced that they have just signed Cole Beasley.
So what do you think that two teams that are
out of the running for old Here's and here's the
hard part. Let's say he goes to the Giants because
the Giants could use them. There might not be a
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playoff team. So he just already publicly stated like what's
you know, why is he coming back? If he's not
coming back for the playoffs? Hes supposed to hang out
until they get there. I mean, do you think that
turned off a bunch of teams when they saw that clip?
They're like, yeah, let's go with some guys who actually
want to get in here and play. Well, like, I
mean two of the so two of the three teams
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just signed wide receivers who also weren't in the game.
Cold Besi retired and then and t Y Hilton hasn't
played and so they so clearly they were in the market.
It wasn't just a sham. They were looking to add
some wide receiver depth. And and once they heard that,
they're probably like, all right, so let's look around. And
they just decided on these two guys. So who's the
former Giants player that there's more to it than that, though,
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who are the Giants? He thinks, David Tyree, they're going
to sign today because the way this is going, like
the Giants are gonna sign and somebody as well too.
Who are we looking at here? I don't know who
they is signed, but it's not going to be Odell
Beckham Jr. What about mark Ingram's dad, the original mark Ingram?
That a possibility. I'm just saying, like, if we're gonna
go former Giants wide receivers, I mean maybe Victor Cruz.
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It's a great call. He's not too far removed. That's
a great call. Maybe a mony tumor. I don't know,
like all that stuff makes sense. What about hackem came
to dream? Yeah, Plexico burst, Plexica Price still get get
get a you know, possession possession catch for the team.
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Remember when he absolutely eight up Charles Woodson in that
NFC title game at lambau Field. He had a skate plex.
Was a different dude at that position. Six six is
he six six? Yes? Really jeez huge, And like it
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doesn't look like he's running fast. He like has a
horse stride. It doesn't look like he's running fast, But
he's running fast. He's just he's running fast. Here's here's
here's what I take away from this, not that you
signed Cold Beasley or you signed t Y Hilton. It's
that it's what I believe is going on with O
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b J. They don't trust his health. It's it's not
about signing Cole Beasley or t Y Hilton. T Y
Hilton has been injured. It's about it is about what
they feel about what oh b J wants versus what
oh b J is. And I just don't think oh
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b J is in a place physically where these these
staffs are clearing it to to get them otherwise, I don't.
I just don't see there being any type of issue
with a team taking a shot at at O b
J right now. Like I don't see it being that
critical of a of a deal if you're going to
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take him, and like you, like we've said, he's he
wants to play for a playoff team. I don't I
don't see that being a big deal. So why is
he not getting signed and why is it becoming like
such a public spectacle to talk about it? He's talking
about it. It just comes across to me as he
needs help, like him being in the barbershop saying the
stuff of being able to talk, having a platform to talk.
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They're trying to help him get a team to take
a chance on him. And to me, that says that
there's something going on there that probably every team that
he's visited, you know, they're they're probably aware of it.
And I think that that's more the storyline connected to
OH b J versus them going with other guys. It's
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a big risk. I mean that the medical is always
what we don't know, and coming round of the combine,
we'll talk about it a bunch. We see good college
football players, they end up not going gett drafted where
we think they're gonna go, and you come to find
out they had a terrible, terrible medical grade. And for
ever some players they end up being able to play
through it. They make it through their career unscathed, no issues.
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For other players, it ends up being an issue. So
that's the tough parts. He's He's at the point in
time in his career. An hour, no one's gonna doubt
whether or not he's proven or he's capable when healthy,
But the question becomes how often is he gonna be
able to be healthy? And then you know, really how
healthy is he at this point? You know, can he
come in and have the same impact he had a
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year ago? There was all the touring and posturing and
all this more for his ego, for his self confidence,
because honestly, he doesn't need to do any of it,
Like everything we've seen publicly, he doesn't need to do
any of that. Teams know who he is, they know
he's capable of it. Just it comes down to the
medical and and I mean maybe again him posting this
stuff to me at least, it wouldn't sit well if
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you signed him and you're a team that's not in
the playoffs yet and he's just hanging out for six
to six, you know, hanging out and getting ready for
the playoffs. But but only that time, it's only twelve
hour window. You know that that's that's what he's focused on.
I just I don't know, man, Like if it was
all about if it was all about him securing as
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he's mentioned earlier in the off season, I want to
secure another contract. I want to, you know, settle down.
I want to have a house. I want to be
in a place. Well, wouldn't you just sign with anybody
you could this year and show teams you can still play,
Like if he was, if he was really ready to go,
why not sign with anybody. Finish out the last four
or five weeks of the season, show teams you can
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still play, and then you go into the off season
and now everybody's gotten a look at you in real
game action and they can say, okay, that's somebody who
we could look at, you know, throwing some money at
or a couple of years and getting a deal done with.
The smarter play for him is to make a move
on a team in a good market that has a
chance of winning. If if you can't catch on to
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one of those teams, then you wait. I think you
wait to go to the off season and go to
the off season rather than take a chance on just
going to any team. I think his brand is his
brand is strong enough, his his who he is is
strong enough for him to do what he did last year.
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I mean leverage going to a team that looks to
have the opportunity to win and they did. I mean
every time he adds a super Bowl, if he gets
an opportunity to add a super Bowl to his resume,
even as a journeyman, you at what he's been able
to create as a brand off the field, and you
put a super Bowl ring to it. I mean, he
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wasn't a super vital part to to them winning the
super Bowl, but he was a part of it. And
people remember that, Oh b J was on the rams
to win a super Bowl. He would have won that
m v P if he stayed healthy. He was dealing
in that game. He was he was doing well. He
was doing well. We we gotta lead a chime in
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for a secondly, do you have an update on any
other wide receiver that's currently not in the NFL that's
maybe lobbying for a chance to be a part of
a playoff run. Yeah, that would also be Mr Carol Owens. Alright.
I think he's forty something years old. Dreaded though, he probably,
and he's been playing in some other leagues. By the way,
last scene beating up some guy outside of CBS so
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some some Sorry Roberto, what was that some bum? He
beat up a bum? Yeah, he didn't see that. There's
some video there's a guy giving some hard time at
a CBS in southern California and Terrell Owens was fighting
the guy outside, like staggered him with a left hand.
You know, I haven't seen it. I'm not sure what
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to think of this. I will say this. I mean, yeah,
well I've seen some crazy stuff with some homeless people
and there's like no one around to do anything. So
I'm not someone's standing up and not sleating stuff running rampant. Bro, Yeah,
somebody that's my quarterback. Hey, it's one of my close friends. Um,
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she got she got ambushed by a homeless a homeless guy,
like he was trying to talk to her and she
was trying to like just go about her business and
he like rolled on her like heard her bad? What
what what are you gonna say? I'm not say anything.
I mean I wish T would have been there that
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that day, which I would have been out there. That
is very true. I mean there has there so so
anyways I could give a personal store another person. It's
a delicate issue. It is a delicate issue. Because there
are some people that are homeless that are really in
need of help and and and and face the challenges
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of what's going on in life. And then there's the
other ones that are like are addicts, and they've that
like they really like turned into like super bums, like
they're they're like they're like I notice sounds crazy, but
they're like they're high off of whatever this this stuff
that bag. I just know, I just know that they
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they high off that that that's something or another. And
and they have become very very valent people. They have
become some pretty like there's a very valient portion of
homeless people right now, and it's because they're high all
the time. Well it's that it's because no one's actually
enforcing the laws. I mean some of that too, Like
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I'm just saying, I'm just pointed out there there's like
no one out there stopping them from doing certain It's
because you'll come after somebody for not paying paying their
uh their taxes, are not paying their their uh their
mortgage or their rent. But you'll see somebody that's just
sitting right there. I saw a guy yesterday, no lie,
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standing right in front of seven eleven and was handling
his business with himself right in front of seven eleven?
About that? Is that the sturity guard? It might have been,
It might have been. How do you know, like maybe
he was Oh no, it was real. It was I
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was sitting not to stopped, like I'm sitting out to
stop like going up the hill. I'm in Pasadena. You
want to take the address down? You? I want to
go check this out? The address? What do you mean
I didn't. I didn't know he saw me. Oh wow,
that was you. I thought that was a different side
of town for you. I thought it enough for a slurpee?
(28:50):
What do you want from me? Um? Oh? No, So
that out to tell you how well the Odell Beckham
Free Agency tours going that. We just ventured off in
conversation about some bum plane pocket pool out in front
of it happening. No, it's not happening. I'd love her dap,
(29:13):
but it'd be great. Be kidding me? Berto? Is this real?
I like the guy next I'm just watching it. Yeah, well,
I think they're fully clothed though, I mean no, oh no,
oh no, no, okay, I get it, they're fully clothed.
By the way, did you get to the end, Hey,
(29:34):
what do you think at least flip flops. Oh, yeah, yeah,
that's that's not that's definitely that's not all right. Where's
that at? I don't know what. I don't know either
Florida or California. I don't know that guy. Alright, alright, um,
(29:57):
lit the square, hold the mail. It is too Roseen
a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, Lamary Rrington.
Oh my gosh, they just waiting for so um the
only one. So we do have the results of our
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propt monster. But the world fourth, ladies and gentlemen, Eddie Garcia,
you know it's for the best that I'm not included
in this. I feel like I'm like, you know, somebody
sitting in their car right now, just just trying to
figure out what's going on. But I know what's going on.
So it's it's okay, Roberto, you don't you don't need
to include me in this. I'm all. I'm alright with that,
(30:39):
I really am. Elie send it to you, Okay, that's fine.
I'm good. Thank you though. Uh you guys, enjoy Monday
night football in Arizona. We had the Patriots being the
Cardinals seven to thirteen. New England was down at the half,
but then outscored Arizona seventeen nothing in the second half.
Big play by the Patriots defense returning in DeAndre Hopkins
(30:59):
fumble for a touchdown one of the key moments of
this game. So New England at seven and six takes
over the final wild card spot in the a f
C from the Chargers. Arizona falls to four or nine.
But a bigger loss for the Cardinals is starting quarterback
Kyler Murray injured on the third play from scrimmage and
non contact injury as he was running went down. It
looks like it's a very serious n injury. He was
carded off the field. He'll have an mr elated state
(31:21):
to confirm, but they're expecting him to be out the
rest of the season and maybe next season as well.
News from the NFL San Franciscota nine Waters Debo Samuel
has a sprained m c L in a high ankle sprain.
He is expected or he could return at some point
in the regular season. New York Jets quarterback Mike White
day to day with the rib injury. He's expected to
be available to play on Sunday against the Detroit Lions
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and the Dallas Cowboys signed veteran free agent wide to
sever t Y Hilton to a one year deal. In
the NBA, the Clippers knock off the top team in
the league, the Celtics one through team to ninety three,
first time this season, Boston has been held under a
hundred points in the game. Spurs get by the Kavaliers
one one eleven. The Nets knock off the Wizards one twelve,
one hundred. Brooklyn has won nine or eight of their
last nine games. Mavericks get thirty eight points from Luca
(32:05):
Dodge went over the thunder Damian Lillard thirty eight points
in the Trailblazers day top the Timberwolves one thirty three
to one. College basketball number seven Texas needed overtime to
get by Rice one. The Longhorns played that game without
their head coach, Chris Beard, arrested Monday morning on third
degree assault charges allegedly attacked his fiance. His attorney claims
the coach is innocent. Barrett has been suspended indefinitely. And
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The prop bet months stars all right, lead a lot
to how we got What the hell do we got? Guys?
I know LaVar Um was not too fond of this
game as of yesterday last Yesterday morning, he might have
he might have a different outlooking utilized quite the strategy
(35:21):
yesterday for Monday night football. So we'll just start off here.
First time, they show that Cliff Kingsbury was drafted by
the Patriots. I didn't see any of that. That was
a none of the above. Not before halftime, not after halftime,
LaVar went with the strategy of none of the above, yeah,
he hit that one. You guys, all that prep work
he did at the bus stop, it really came in,
(35:41):
Andy putting in a lot of work, alright. We we
had asked who turns the ball over first, Kyler Murray,
mac Jones or other. LaVar, you did take the other
on that one. It didn't work out that time, Brady,
you took Kyler Murray. But Jonas got it correctly that
mac Jones through the first interception of the game. Does
(36:02):
it count that his hand was hit? And uh, well,
I mean at the bus stop. That would be hard
to do. Yeah, it's kind of I'll be I'll take it,
but I'm trying to do this on the up and
up here. I like some people on this show. So
but I'll take it, Lee fell As. We had also asked,
who does Kyler Murray have an argument with first? Oh, man,
(36:23):
I know this is a window. Yeah, well, LaVar did
take none none of the above. It wasn't there long enough. Yeah,
well that was That was a good call there. I
don't know if you saw that coming or not. I
did not see that coming. I don't know. I have
to make jokes about it. Ly, Okay, Alright, who's the
game's leading rusher. Was it James Conner, Roman, j Stevenson,
(36:46):
Kyler Murray or Mac Jones. LaVar, you were correct, it
was James Conner five yards. Stevenson got got injured as well.
I think LaVar put a hex on the entire game,
and we had an interesting one to finish it off.
You guys, we asked, would Bill Belichick's cut off hoodie
color be blue, white, red, gray, or none of the above.
None of the above was an official answer on this one,
(37:09):
and it actually was none of the above. He didn't
wear a hoodie last night to cut off hoodie? Did
anybody have that? You went blue? I thought for sure
you're gonna go none of the above. But don't worry, LaVar.
You took a three point uh swinging this one. You
jump from third place to second. You're only three spaces,
three places behind Brady right now, I think this game
is getting better to me by the day. A little
(37:32):
bit better about this, Jonas you're only one spot behind LaVar,
meaning you're only four behind Brady. Yeah, so we're behind.
How many times Lee's had to pick for me? Well
we you know, welcome, We're not at of a bus stop,
but we We definitely have been behind you for quite
some time now. You know, by the way, I'm a
(37:57):
little just that's we're really disturbing. I mean, it's it
makes you physically ill. Actually, you guys ever had somebody
send you something and you wish you didn't have to
see it, But like, how did you get ahold of it?
How did you find this? Yeah? How did you randomly?
Could you will say You'll say you randomly saw that
And there's no way you, m Lee. That's happened twice
(38:19):
with Lee to the past week. I randomly came across this, Like, no,
that's not content, you just random but but it works
for the show. You guys brought something up and I contributed.
He looked it up like based off of something we said,
he typed it in. That's what popped up and he
felt good about it. Only showed Roberto and he decided
(38:42):
to send it to everybody. That's uh, yeah, that was brutal. Um. Well, look,
I mean a Lee your secret save with us, you know,
not talking about it on the air. Refused to I'm
glad I took that training last week. Yeah, let's listen, everybody.
I mean, there we go, here we go. What's you got?
What you got alright? Nobody's touching it? Somebody was. They
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certainly were. How they go on to Coffy, but they
rest by the way it's underneath him. Petros is gonna
be on with us tomorrow. I was listening to Petros
and Matt money Smith on the blowtorch Am five seventy
(39:34):
l A Sports yesterday, and Petros is talking about how
he's still got this football player mentality that even when
he sees people in the hallway at Fox, he wonders
whether or not he can cut them. He just he
sizes him up and says, can I get low enough
to take them out? Like? Whoever you guys? Do you
guys still do that? You kind of size people up
(39:54):
as former players. You see somebody in a hallway and go,
can I take them out right now? Like like if
I win, if I went, you know, head hunting right now,
could I knock them completely off their feet? No, you
don't do that, even with that big fatass ring on
from the College Football Hall of Fame. That's exactly why
I don't. I did enough of it when I had
the opportunity to. Plus, the rules these days are just
(40:18):
you know, they're just way to relax, even in the hallway.
I mean, I just don't have that type of testosterone
level going right now. Brady does adrenaline level I just
don't have right now. Yeah, Brady is Jack. I'm just fat,
no beast and I eat birdos cooking in the morning
(40:38):
and it was good. I love how this has become
a thing now talking about stop man, No, it's amazing.
It's a it's an out of element to the show.
It counteracts your energy LaVar depressed about that's great. I'm
going I'm going to be in my car thinking about
working out while I'm driving home by bus stopping no
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The little game we played, oh yeah, that's all. That's
just kind of funny. It's kind of funny. Off the air,
off the air. Yeah, yeah, that was a good game.
Some of these. I mean, there was literally only two questionables,
and it's only because I'm just not aware of them.
The on air game yesterday went well, I thought. But
also the Brown's quarterback and uh, you know the camp game. Yeah,
(01:48):
that one, I thought one pretty well. Um, people actually
caught onto that. I was surprised, whoa did the Yeah shocking?
That play? It on pretty thick all right, So, um,
Monday Night football last night. The New England Patriots get
it done. But the story of that game is Kyler
(02:09):
Murray's injury early on third play from scrimmage for the Cardinals.
It was a third play, got third play for the Cardinals.
Kyler Murray scrambled, went down non contact injury. Knew it immediately.
Everybody on the field knew it immediately. He was taken off.
He was emotional, and the expectation is after they're going
to get an m R later on today. But the
(02:30):
expectation is they fully expect that it's going to be
an a c L tear. Obviously, season over and now
we go into whatever the hell this is going to
be the rest of the way for the Arizona Cardinals
and into the off season. That whole discussion when it
comes to the Patriots. What are the Patriots because right
now they are the seventh seed in the a f C. Now,
(02:52):
they were a wild card team last year in the
a f C and got absolutely sand blasted by the
Bills in that playoff game. They got sand blast. I
don't even know what that term means, but I've heard
it before and I thought it was funny. So what
are I mean? What is new England? Are They kind
of been no man's land to where they don't really
have the quarterback to compete with with the top tier
(03:16):
teams and they're just kinda they're not making the playoffs.
We don't need to have this discussion. They're not making it,
no chance whatsoever. They gotta go back to back weeks
on the road in the West Coast. Right now, they
gotta out and play Las Vegas next week. Um, I
think they would up losing that game, and then I
think you gotta play Cincinnati. Miami had Buffalo to finish,
(03:37):
and I keep, I keep referring to that number one
overall seed and how important it is only because Casey
and Buffalo are neck and neck, and so I don't
know that a Buffalo can afford to take any game
off in Week eighteen or their seventeenth game because of
how tight that's gonna be with Kansas City. So I
think they'll probably play their starters. And you know, you'd
(04:00):
have to give Josh Allen at home a big advantage
over the New England Patriots on what this team looks like.
Even with the win last night, you know, you kind
of go back and all right, they had a missfield
goal early for for Arizona, you know, a few gaffs
or or missed opportunities here and there, mostly versus cold McCoy,
you know, offensively, where you'd expect him not to go
(04:21):
in there and have the same type of you know,
preparedness or or rhythm and timing within the offense like
Murray would have had in preparation for this game. So
I look at and go, their schedule is really tough.
The rest of the way I think it. I mean,
I don't know how you guys handicap it, but you've
got two of four on the road. I think every
single team you play, with the exception of the Raiders,
(04:43):
is gonna be a playoff team. And so I would
say it's it's probably fair to say they could go
one in three in the final, you know, four games,
and that gets made and nine and that's not getting
it done none to a f C. So I mean,
I kinda I tend to agree, but I do give
it a little bit more hope. I think there is
more of a glimmer than that. I just as easily
(05:07):
as they could go through this stretch and only get
one win, I think they could go through the stretch
and and grab two to three and and then now
the question becomes is two to three wins down that
stretch of four? Um? You know, is that is that
enough to get in? How many teams are what teams
in the a f C are legitimate Super Bowl caliber teams?
(05:31):
The chief it seems like there's three. All right, Let's
go through Ksey Buffalo and sense Buffalo sense, and that's it.
I would agree with that. Well, the problem is you've
got like Tennessee in a position where they're gonna win
their division. So you know, you you could say they're
not a legit playoffs are fraudulent. I said, you said
not legitam is Tennessee a fraudulent team? I mean the
(05:58):
fraudulent get the playoffs go anywhere? Yeah, but they like
they're not a consistent They're not a consistent team. They
fired their GM. Everything's fine, that was the problem. Everything. Yeah,
everything's good in Tennessee. It just feels like Buffalo, Kansas
City and Cincinnati have separated themselves. I would have said Baltimore,
(06:21):
but man, that is not a not an ideal situation
at quarterback right now, and Baltimore feels like they're just
hanging on at this point, and it feels like it's
only a matter of time before since he overtakes that
division and then Baltimore is a wild card team and
then you just see kind of what you got. But
it does feel like Buffalo Kansas City, since he are
the legitimate Super Bowl teams and caliber teams in the
(06:42):
a f C, and everybody else is just kind of Okay,
it's cute, Like Miami feels like it's been exposed a
little bit here weeks. I mean, and I don't know
what what to make of Baltimore. Who had Baltimore going
to the Super Bowl? I had the charge there not good.
H They're not bad, but they are far from good.
(07:04):
They're like and then they don't even have Lamar right now,
it's this, it's yeah, the as It's interesting because the
a f C is very top heavy. I would have
thought that there would have been more really good teams
in in the a f C. You're gonna have Tennessee
and Baltimore get in just based upon them head unless
(07:26):
the Bengals take over the spot and and get that
seat as the winner of the a f C North.
But I mean you you potentially right now, the Baltimore
Ravens are in the first position for the a f
C North and they're not even the best team in
in their conference right now? Is that the worst pool
or the best pool position? Is that how you describe it?
(07:48):
It could be, It could be. I mean, Cincinnati is
in the best best position of everyone. Is there is
there a bad pole position? Yeah? Hell yeah, there's a
bad Yes, that's why you got it, like race for it, don't.
You got to go out and get get times so
that you know where you're going to be at and
you know position. Yeah, I mean you start from the back.
(08:11):
It's hard, hard at the top. Happy Holidays. I don't
put that on you because you already one. That why
you walk that one into the room. And my dumbass
sitting here just continuing to talk about it. You know what?
(08:33):
Forget you Joe. That's first of all. That that was
all the way. First of all, I just I've been
working at Brady way too long when I know he's
ready to get This all actually started with LaVar when
he started talking about pole position and then I don't
know how we say we did in the poll Assassin.
Then that just now every time you say pulp position,
(08:55):
that's all I think about that monkey. There's there's an
indicator when you know Brady's about ready to get grab assy,
because they'll go like this, huh. That's what I could
really tell you, guys, what I just thought that saying
what I'm thinking, I'm just saying, huh. Let me think
(09:17):
of something clever to say. That isn't exactly what I
was going to say, um, by the way, you know,
since he's still getting plus money to win the division,
someone sprint to the window in bet right now. Honestly too,
I think Joe Burrow is gonna win the MVP, is
I believe? So? Yeah, It's like it just feels like
(09:37):
since he's taken a turn, and like, what do you do,
Like if you're Baltimore, Like if say they go into
the postseason again this year and their one and done
or they win you know, they win one game and
then they're out in the divisional round. If they're a
wild card team, what's the plan because it feels like
you're just kind of getting to the same point every
single year and there's been no growth, Like there's been
(09:59):
no like, no no getting past the first round. No
get it just feels like we're kind of at the
same point with Baltimore and then last year they didn't
make the playoffs. So like, what's the plan? If you're
the Ravens going to the off season, you're still you're
still giving them are of that contract, correct, I mean
you still want him around long term. I don't know.
It might be a franchise tag scenario just played out.
(10:22):
It might I mean, the price tag will go up,
but wouldn't you want to be sure about the price
tag that you're gonna pay for an extended amount of
time versus pay a lesser amount. But in the end
you paid way more because you didn't get exactly what
it is you thought you were paying for. Yeah, I
almost feel like after this season it's a it was
(10:45):
a bet on me season. If I were saying if
this was a success or failure for Lamar Jackson today,
right now I have to say it was a fail. Yeah,
he's not been good. It's been a fail. So now
he's dealing with with with a little bit of being
banged up. It's just that that makes it if if
(11:06):
you're if you're to Baltimore, you know, Ravens, what are you?
What are you thinking? You know, I'm thinking, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I think the world of this is
if I'm I'm just saying in my mind, I'm getting
in the character here. I think the world of Lamar Jackson.
I love Lamar Jackson's demeanor. I love his approach. I
(11:29):
love that he's got a little grit to him, a
lot of grit, a lot, a little bit of edge
to him. I like a lot of the things that
I see in Lamar Jackson giving him this this long
term contract, which would be what what we what will
we assume eight years something like that, five or six?
Five or six? Okay, So if we're gonna go over
another five to six at the highest of of highs
(11:52):
in terms of a lot of guaranteed money. Uh, during
the course of this contract, am I am I there?
Am I there to make that commitment? Do all of
the positives that I feel in harbor for Lamar Jackson?
Do they outweigh any of the doubts, any of the
(12:13):
you know, the drawbacks or whatever it could be considered
in giving this contract. You know, I think that there's
still I think there's more questions coming out of this season.
And I don't know that there were any questions coming
out of last season. And now you have questions coming
out of this season. So how do you approach that? Yeah,
it's uh. And and then you just look at kind
(12:34):
of where they're at as if it is this are
we venturing into the dak Prescott territory where you look
at DAC and like we talked about it yesterday, you
still have some of those same questions about yeah, he's
a franchise quarterback. He gave him all that money, but
can you get past a certain point? And they haven't
been able to get past that certain point. And so
maybe that's the cautionary tale. If you're Baltimore, like, we'd
(12:56):
like to sign you. Whatever they threw out there this offseason,
he is, and they couldn't get a deal done because
he was looking at the Deshaun Watson contract. And I
don't know that that Lamar Jackson has done anything this
season to warrant them going, you know what, you're right,
let's go and give you two thirty million dollars guaranteed
him getting hurt was the worst thing that could have
happened to him, because that was the greatest fear given
(13:18):
what he's displayed since he's come into the league. And
where's that now? Meaning we all knew how dynamic he
would be as as someone who got outside the pocket
or designed quarterback run game. The problem is is you
wanted to see the growth as a passer, and it
doesn't matter who they've drafted a tight end or wide receiver.
It seems like whoever they bring in, what do they
have around him? It just doesn't work. And I think
(13:41):
this year, at times we saw him play within the pocket.
You're like, man, he has not taken that next step
as a pocket passer, which only makes you feel like
we got to lean more into him running a bunch,
which leads to injuries. We saw injuries last year of
seeing injuries this year, So I think that's really hurt
his case for getting the type of old that he
probably wants. He could probably get a really two in
(14:03):
or million dollar plus two and thirty million dollar deal,
it just might not have the guarantees that he wants
within it. But this this could be a scenario where
the Baltimore Ravens end up going the you know, the
franchise tag route. And I'm not saying that Dallas Cowboys
wish they would have done that with Dak, but maybe
this is where the Baltimore Ravens use multiple franchise tags.
(14:24):
Which look, it's it's not the worst thing in the
world for the player. Um, you're getting paid a lot
of money for a guaranteed one year deal. It's not
great for the team either. I mean, you're obviously taking
a huge salary cap it, but you're you're invested into
the guy for that one year and you know potentially
another year. Um, but you know, long term, you're not
making that investment and you could still buy some more
(14:45):
time if you you don't have that, there's questions in
your mind answered or you or you could prepare for
him to move on, you know, whether you find a
stop gap or you find someone in the draft that
you take and you really like to come in and
eventually replace them. So there's this obviously is gonna be
really really interesting to see how the Baltimore Ravens handled this.
But in the short term, I think they've got to
(15:06):
be more concerned about like where where where are you?
You know? In the n f C North. I think
since Naty is the better team right now and they'll
probably win the division and that leaves Baltimore is a
wild card team, and that's depending on like when will
Lamar Jackson be back? Last time we heard John Harball
talk about and they kind of said, what was a
day to day, a week to week with one to
four weeks? Yeah, it looked like he was gonna be
(15:30):
somewhere closer maybe four than one. So I just I
think it's a it's a tough It's a tough spot
obviously for Lamar to be in because I'm sure he
wants to be out there, but given that he's kind
of in a contract year, even though they can use
the tag on him, he can't really go anywhere. You know,
he doesn't want to go out there and not plays best.
And I think he's proved himself as an m v P,
a guy who get his team to the playoffs. He's
(15:51):
won a ton of games because of his dynamic ability
running the football, but he hasn't been able to take
that next step as a passer, and so trying to
go and I prove that either to make a playoff
run or in the playoffs, it's a tough tough spot
to be in. Right now, It's Two Pros and a
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No smooth though it wasn't smooth, but it wasn't aggressive,
So I got a question for you guys. Remember the
three teams that Odell Beckham went on his tour with,
you know when he went on this little Cowboys and Rams, Giants,
Cowboys and Bills. All right, So the Dallas Cowboys went
(17:47):
ahead and signed t Y Hilton yesterday, and the Buffalo
Bills have announced that they have just signed Cole Beasley.
So what do you think that two teams that are
out of the running for old Here's and here's the
hard part. Let's say he goes to the Giants because
the Giants could use them. There might not be a
(18:10):
playoff team. So he just already publicly stated like what's
you know, why is he coming back? If he's not
coming back for the playoffs? Hes supposed to hang out
until they get there. I mean, do you think that
turned off a bunch of teams when they saw that clip?
They're like, yeah, let's go with some guys who actually
want to get in here and play. Well, like, I
mean two of the so two of the three teams
(18:33):
just signed wide receivers who also weren't in the game.
Cold Besi retired and then and t Y Hilton hasn't
played and so they so clearly they were in the market.
It wasn't just a sham. They were looking to add
some wide receiver depth. And and once they heard that,
they're probably like, all right, so let's look around. And
they just decided on these two guys. So who's the
former Giants player that there's more to it than that, though,
(18:55):
who are the Giants? He thinks, David Tyree, they're going
to sign today because the way this is going, like
the Giants are gonna sign and somebody as well too.
Who are we looking at here? I don't know who
they is signed, but it's not going to be Odell
Beckham Jr. What about mark Ingram's dad, the original mark Ingram?
That a possibility. I'm just saying, like, if we're gonna
go former Giants wide receivers, I mean maybe Victor Cruz.
(19:18):
It's a great call. He's not too far removed. That's
a great call. Maybe a mony tumor. I don't know,
like all that stuff makes sense. What about hackem came
to dream? Yeah, Plexico burst, Plexica Price still get get
get a you know, possession possession catch for the team.
(19:41):
Remember when he absolutely eight up Charles Woodson in that
NFC title game at lambau Field. He had a skate plex.
Was a different dude at that position. Six six is
he six six? Yes? Really jeez huge, And like it
(20:02):
doesn't look like he's running fast. He like has a
horse stride. It doesn't look like he's running fast, But
he's running fast. He's just he's running fast. Here's here's
here's what I take away from this, not that you
signed Cold Beasley or you signed t Y Hilton. It's
that it's what I believe is going on with O
(20:25):
b J. They don't trust his health. It's it's not
about signing Cole Beasley or t Y Hilton. T Y
Hilton has been injured. It's about it is about what
they feel about what oh b J wants versus what
oh b J is. And I just don't think oh
(20:45):
b J is in a place physically where these these
staffs are clearing it to to get them otherwise, I don't.
I just don't see there being any type of issue
with a team taking a shot at at O b
J right now. Like I don't see it being that
critical of a of a deal if you're going to
(21:07):
take him, and like you, like we've said, he's he
wants to play for a playoff team. I don't I
don't see that being a big deal. So why is
he not getting signed and why is it becoming like
such a public spectacle to talk about it? He's talking
about it. It just comes across to me as he
needs help, like him being in the barbershop saying the
stuff of being able to talk, having a platform to talk.
(21:28):
They're trying to help him get a team to take
a chance on him. And to me, that says that
there's something going on there that probably every team that
he's visited, you know, they're they're probably aware of it.
And I think that that's more the storyline connected to
OH b J versus them going with other guys. It's
(21:49):
a big risk. I mean that the medical is always
what we don't know, and coming round of the combine,
we'll talk about it a bunch. We see good college
football players, they end up not going gett drafted where
we think they're gonna go, and you come to find
out they had a terrible, terrible medical grade. And for
ever some players they end up being able to play
through it. They make it through their career unscathed, no issues.
(22:11):
For other players, it ends up being an issue. So
that's the tough parts. He's He's at the point in
time in his career. An hour, no one's gonna doubt
whether or not he's proven or he's capable when healthy,
But the question becomes how often is he gonna be
able to be healthy? And then you know, really how
healthy is he at this point? You know, can he
come in and have the same impact he had a
(22:31):
year ago? There was all the touring and posturing and
all this more for his ego, for his self confidence,
because honestly, he doesn't need to do any of it,
Like everything we've seen publicly, he doesn't need to do
any of that. Teams know who he is, they know
he's capable of it. Just it comes down to the
medical and and I mean maybe again him posting this
stuff to me at least, it wouldn't sit well if
(22:54):
you signed him and you're a team that's not in
the playoffs yet and he's just hanging out for six
to six, you know, hanging out and getting ready for
the playoffs. But but only that time, it's only twelve
hour window. You know that that's that's what he's focused on.
I just I don't know, man, Like if it was
all about if it was all about him securing as
(23:16):
he's mentioned earlier in the off season, I want to
secure another contract. I want to, you know, settle down.
I want to have a house. I want to be
in a place. Well, wouldn't you just sign with anybody
you could this year and show teams you can still play,
Like if he was, if he was really ready to go,
why not sign with anybody. Finish out the last four
or five weeks of the season, show teams you can
(23:36):
still play, and then you go into the off season
and now everybody's gotten a look at you in real
game action and they can say, okay, that's somebody who
we could look at, you know, throwing some money at
or a couple of years and getting a deal done with.
The smarter play for him is to make a move
on a team in a good market that has a
chance of winning. If if you can't catch on to
(23:57):
one of those teams, then you wait. I think you
wait to go to the off season and go to
the off season rather than take a chance on just
going to any team. I think his brand is his
brand is strong enough, his his who he is is
strong enough for him to do what he did last year.
(24:19):
I mean leverage going to a team that looks to
have the opportunity to win and they did. I mean
every time he adds a super Bowl, if he gets
an opportunity to add a super Bowl to his resume,
even as a journeyman, you at what he's been able
to create as a brand off the field, and you
put a super Bowl ring to it. I mean, he
(24:39):
wasn't a super vital part to to them winning the
super Bowl, but he was a part of it. And
people remember that, Oh b J was on the rams
to win a super Bowl. He would have won that
m v P if he stayed healthy. He was dealing
in that game. He was he was doing well. He
was doing well. We we gotta lead a chime in
(25:00):
for a secondly, do you have an update on any
other wide receiver that's currently not in the NFL that's
maybe lobbying for a chance to be a part of
a playoff run. Yeah, that would also be Mr Carol Owens. Alright.
I think he's forty something years old. Dreaded though, he probably,
and he's been playing in some other leagues. By the way,
last scene beating up some guy outside of CBS so
(25:24):
some some Sorry Roberto, what was that some bum? He
beat up a bum? Yeah, he didn't see that. There's
some video there's a guy giving some hard time at
a CBS in southern California and Terrell Owens was fighting
the guy outside, like staggered him with a left hand.
You know, I haven't seen it. I'm not sure what
(25:46):
to think of this. I will say this. I mean, yeah,
well I've seen some crazy stuff with some homeless people
and there's like no one around to do anything. So
I'm not someone's standing up and not sleating stuff running rampant. Bro, Yeah,
somebody that's my quarterback. Hey, it's one of my close friends. Um,
(26:12):
she got she got ambushed by a homeless a homeless guy,
like he was trying to talk to her and she
was trying to like just go about her business and
he like rolled on her like heard her bad? What
what what are you gonna say? I'm not say anything.
I mean I wish T would have been there that
(26:33):
that day, which I would have been out there. That
is very true. I mean there has there so so
anyways I could give a personal store another person. It's
a delicate issue. It is a delicate issue. Because there
are some people that are homeless that are really in
need of help and and and and face the challenges
(26:56):
of what's going on in life. And then there's the
other ones that are like are addicts, and they've that
like they really like turned into like super bums, like
they're they're like they're like I notice sounds crazy, but
they're like they're high off of whatever this this stuff
that bag. I just know, I just know that they
(27:21):
they high off that that that's something or another. And
and they have become very very valent people. They have
become some pretty like there's a very valient portion of
homeless people right now, and it's because they're high all
the time. Well it's that it's because no one's actually
enforcing the laws. I mean some of that too, Like
(27:45):
I'm just saying, I'm just pointed out there there's like
no one out there stopping them from doing certain It's
because you'll come after somebody for not paying paying their
uh their taxes, are not paying their their uh their
mortgage or their rent. But you'll see somebody that's just
sitting right there. I saw a guy yesterday, no lie,
(28:06):
standing right in front of seven eleven and was handling
his business with himself right in front of seven eleven?
About that? Is that the sturity guard? It might have been,
It might have been. How do you know, like maybe
he was Oh no, it was real. It was I
(28:29):
was sitting not to stopped, like I'm sitting out to
stop like going up the hill. I'm in Pasadena. You
want to take the address down? You? I want to
go check this out? The address? What do you mean
I didn't. I didn't know he saw me. Oh wow,
that was you. I thought that was a different side
of town for you. I thought it enough for a slurpee?
(28:50):
What do you want from me? Um? Oh? No, So
that out to tell you how well the Odell Beckham
Free Agency tours going that. We just ventured off in
conversation about some bum plane pocket pool out in front
of it happening. No, it's not happening. I'd love her dap,
(29:13):
but it'd be great. Be kidding me? Berto? Is this real?
I like the guy next I'm just watching it. Yeah, well,
I think they're fully clothed though, I mean no, oh no,
oh no, no, okay, I get it, they're fully clothed.
By the way, did you get to the end, Hey,
(29:34):
what do you think at least flip flops. Oh, yeah, yeah,
that's that's not that's definitely that's not all right. Where's
that at? I don't know what. I don't know either
Florida or California. I don't know that guy. Alright, alright, um,
(29:57):
lit the square, hold the mail. It is too Roseen
a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, Lamary Rrington.
Oh my gosh, they just waiting for so um the
only one. So we do have the results of our
(30:19):
propt monster. But the world fourth, ladies and gentlemen, Eddie Garcia,
you know it's for the best that I'm not included
in this. I feel like I'm like, you know, somebody
sitting in their car right now, just just trying to
figure out what's going on. But I know what's going on.
So it's it's okay, Roberto, you don't you don't need
to include me in this. I'm all. I'm alright with that,
(30:39):
I really am. Elie send it to you, Okay, that's fine.
I'm good. Thank you though. Uh you guys, enjoy Monday
night football in Arizona. We had the Patriots being the
Cardinals seven to thirteen. New England was down at the half,
but then outscored Arizona seventeen nothing in the second half.
Big play by the Patriots defense returning in DeAndre Hopkins
(30:59):
fumble for a touchdown one of the key moments of
this game. So New England at seven and six takes
over the final wild card spot in the a f
C from the Chargers. Arizona falls to four or nine.
But a bigger loss for the Cardinals is starting quarterback
Kyler Murray injured on the third play from scrimmage and
non contact injury as he was running went down. It
looks like it's a very serious n injury. He was
carded off the field. He'll have an mr elated state
(31:21):
to confirm, but they're expecting him to be out the
rest of the season and maybe next season as well.
News from the NFL San Franciscota nine Waters Debo Samuel
has a sprained m c L in a high ankle sprain.
He is expected or he could return at some point
in the regular season. New York Jets quarterback Mike White
day to day with the rib injury. He's expected to
be available to play on Sunday against the Detroit Lions
(31:43):
and the Dallas Cowboys signed veteran free agent wide to
sever t Y Hilton to a one year deal. In
the NBA, the Clippers knock off the top team in
the league, the Celtics one through team to ninety three,
first time this season, Boston has been held under a
hundred points in the game. Spurs get by the Kavaliers
one one eleven. The Nets knock off the Wizards one twelve,
one hundred. Brooklyn has won nine or eight of their
last nine games. Mavericks get thirty eight points from Luca
(32:05):
Dodge went over the thunder Damian Lillard thirty eight points
in the Trailblazers day top the Timberwolves one thirty three
to one. College basketball number seven Texas needed overtime to
get by Rice one. The Longhorns played that game without
their head coach, Chris Beard, arrested Monday morning on third
degree assault charges allegedly attacked his fiance. His attorney claims
the coach is innocent. Barrett has been suspended indefinitely. And
(32:27):
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(34:57):
The prop bet months stars all right, lead a lot
to how we got What the hell do we got? Guys?
I know LaVar Um was not too fond of this
game as of yesterday last Yesterday morning, he might have
he might have a different outlooking utilized quite the strategy
(35:21):
yesterday for Monday night football. So we'll just start off here.
First time, they show that Cliff Kingsbury was drafted by
the Patriots. I didn't see any of that. That was
a none of the above. Not before halftime, not after halftime,
LaVar went with the strategy of none of the above, yeah,
he hit that one. You guys, all that prep work
he did at the bus stop, it really came in,
(35:41):
Andy putting in a lot of work, alright. We we
had asked who turns the ball over first, Kyler Murray,
mac Jones or other. LaVar, you did take the other
on that one. It didn't work out that time, Brady,
you took Kyler Murray. But Jonas got it correctly that
mac Jones through the first interception of the game. Does
(36:02):
it count that his hand was hit? And uh, well,
I mean at the bus stop. That would be hard
to do. Yeah, it's kind of I'll be I'll take it,
but I'm trying to do this on the up and
up here. I like some people on this show. So
but I'll take it, Lee fell As. We had also asked,
who does Kyler Murray have an argument with first? Oh, man,
(36:23):
I know this is a window. Yeah, well, LaVar did
take none none of the above. It wasn't there long enough. Yeah,
well that was That was a good call there. I
don't know if you saw that coming or not. I
did not see that coming. I don't know. I have
to make jokes about it. Ly, Okay, Alright, who's the
game's leading rusher. Was it James Conner, Roman, j Stevenson,
(36:46):
Kyler Murray or Mac Jones. LaVar, you were correct, it
was James Conner five yards. Stevenson got got injured as well.
I think LaVar put a hex on the entire game,
and we had an interesting one to finish it off.
You guys, we asked, would Bill Belichick's cut off hoodie
color be blue, white, red, gray, or none of the above.
None of the above was an official answer on this one,
(37:09):
and it actually was none of the above. He didn't
wear a hoodie last night to cut off hoodie? Did
anybody have that? You went blue? I thought for sure
you're gonna go none of the above. But don't worry, LaVar.
You took a three point uh swinging this one. You
jump from third place to second. You're only three spaces,
three places behind Brady right now, I think this game
is getting better to me by the day. A little
(37:32):
bit better about this, Jonas you're only one spot behind LaVar,
meaning you're only four behind Brady. Yeah, so we're behind.
How many times Lee's had to pick for me? Well
we you know, welcome, We're not at of a bus stop,
but we We definitely have been behind you for quite
some time now. You know, by the way, I'm a
(37:57):
little just that's we're really disturbing. I mean, it's it
makes you physically ill. Actually, you guys ever had somebody
send you something and you wish you didn't have to
see it, But like, how did you get ahold of it?
How did you find this? Yeah? How did you randomly?
Could you will say You'll say you randomly saw that
And there's no way you, m Lee. That's happened twice
(38:19):
with Lee to the past week. I randomly came across this, Like, no,
that's not content, you just random but but it works
for the show. You guys brought something up and I contributed.
He looked it up like based off of something we said,
he typed it in. That's what popped up and he
felt good about it. Only showed Roberto and he decided
(38:42):
to send it to everybody. That's uh, yeah, that was brutal. Um. Well, look,
I mean a Lee your secret save with us, you know,
not talking about it on the air. Refused to I'm
glad I took that training last week. Yeah, let's listen, everybody.
I mean, there we go, here we go. What's you got?
What you got alright? Nobody's touching it? Somebody was. They
(39:12):
certainly were. How they go on to Coffy, but they
rest by the way it's underneath him. Petros is gonna
be on with us tomorrow. I was listening to Petros
and Matt money Smith on the blowtorch Am five seventy
(39:34):
l A Sports yesterday, and Petros is talking about how
he's still got this football player mentality that even when
he sees people in the hallway at Fox, he wonders
whether or not he can cut them. He just he
sizes him up and says, can I get low enough
to take them out? Like? Whoever you guys? Do you
guys still do that? You kind of size people up
(39:54):
as former players. You see somebody in a hallway and go,
can I take them out right now? Like like if
I win, if I went, you know, head hunting right now,
could I knock them completely off their feet? No, you
don't do that, even with that big fatass ring on
from the College Football Hall of Fame. That's exactly why
I don't. I did enough of it when I had
the opportunity to. Plus, the rules these days are just
(40:18):
you know, they're just way to relax, even in the hallway.
I mean, I just don't have that type of testosterone
level going right now. Brady does adrenaline level I just
don't have right now. Yeah, Brady is Jack. I'm just fat,
no beast and I eat birdos cooking in the morning
(40:38):
and it was good. I love how this has become
a thing now talking about stop man, No, it's amazing.
It's a it's an out of element to the show.
It counteracts your energy LaVar depressed about that's great. I'm
going I'm going to be in my car thinking about
working out while I'm driving home by bus stopping no
(41:00):
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