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including one of the most incredible finishes you will ever hear,
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Just a weekend in general? Man, what a weekend of
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sporting events? Yeah, that was pretty awesome the World Cup
yesterday and then also all the NFL action. Uh and
there's obviously plenty to get to. But I don't have
you ever seen an ending like what we saw in
Las Vegas between the Raiders and Patriots. So so this
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is history that we saw yesterday. Yeah, a complete cold town. Yeah,
and and it's so do you want to hear us
break it down? Or should we? Boy? Should we let
Scott Zolac, the voice of the New England Patriots breakdown?
All right? So all right, so you want to hear
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this is the final call on the Patriots Radio network
and just listen to Scott zola disgusted at the end
of this entire call here it was taken away. Now
in a third and ten three seconds left, Jones will
give it to Steven Sandy started ride. He runs it
up the middle, hit by Chandler Jones, slips and hit
across the forty five for the stiff arm off attack
on the forty He lost the football and Jacob me
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Byrs picks it up. He circles back and he throws
it the class the field trip. Oh my god, just
picked up by Chandler Jones. He breaks away to the thirty.
He runs to the tent, He runs to the tag,
to the zone threal touchdowns raids like this might be
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one of the dumbest teams I've ever seen, and a
victory for Las Vegas. Oh my god? What do you
what do you do like? How do you like if
if you're on that, if you're on the Patriots team,
what do you do like? You can? Can? Can? We
just kind of look at that way and try to
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break down what may have happened because Jacobe Myers I
have the utmost respect for him, for the men in
which he handled things. Yea, he stood there, he answered
all the questions, he took all the blame. Yet what
in the hell was Romandre Stevenson doing. He never should
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have pitched it in the first place. It was that
he lost it. When you go back and watched the
multiple replays, he pitched it like it was almost as
if they called a run play. And at some point
Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, Bill Belichick, someone said, hey, if
you get far enough down there and plus territory, start
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pitching it around, trying to go and make a play,
go score touchdown. I think Stevenson said afterwards it was
you're supposed to be a draw play and nothing more.
I don't know. I think that's what doesn't make sense.
There's no way he went rogue. He he would pitch it,
and then it doesn't make any sense why Jakobe Meyers there.
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There had to have been something that was said, and
these guys are all covering for Bill Belichick, But Bill
Belichick didn't. Bill Belichick's after the game like it was dumb,
it was dumb football, or something to that effect. He
he said something that to me made it sound like
that's what they wanted. There's no that's the Patriots. That's
the Patriots. You're not doing laterals on rogue, not for
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the Patriots. Like, if there was one team you say
you're not going rogue on a play, it's the Patriots.
I Mean, he's fired dudes for being late and ice
storms like, you're not. You're not going rogue on the Patriots.
I'm sorry. You lateral more than once. That was that
was predetermined. Let's try to let's try to lateral it.
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Let's try to get into the end zone that was
pre deterred. So who's the most likely, corporate Patricia. Here's
what I don't know is I've never been a part
of a team that had that sort of play in
like where you'd run the football and then looked a
lateral like we've always had it where you'd have the
running back kind of release out on a short route.
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Once everyone else ran down field, you throw it to him.
Then then it kind of starts the lateral back and forth.
And it used. The ladders usually happen a little quicker
um or it's like a hook and ladder. Right, you
take a shot somewhere down thirty yards down field, then
they're pitching it to some guy coming across underneath. Again,
not that play either, So it was just it was
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really odd to me that watching that plan, thinking Okay,
they're running it out, trying to get into overtime, and
then you watch what en Susan go, Wow that they
just did that, That just happened. I just I've never
seen anything like that before. And it had to have
been it had to have been something that was mentioned
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by Matt Patricia. It had to have been because that's
the last guy who's gonna be calling in any communication
that it's quarterback, and maybe even something Matt Jones had
to echo to his team. But like good soldiers that
they are, you know, everyone's gonna bite the bullet or
everyone's gonna is gonna take the shots for Bill Belichick,
for Matt Patricia. That's just the new England way you
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want to hear. See Here was mac Jones mac Jones.
Mac Jones was asked after the game about the play.
Here's what he had to say. David just said that
it was a called draw play from Andre takes the ball.
Was he told to initiate a pitch play if possible,
if there was something he saw, Was he told do
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what you can and then go down. Yeah, I think
you just have to ask Cook Belichick. Um, you know,
obviously we have a plan for the end of the game,
and I just didn't do good enough job there. So
I have to watch the taping to better and do
all the things, you know, so we don't even have
to be in that situation. Mac Jacoby said just a
few minutes ago to reporters in the locker room that
he was just trying to be a hero, trying to
do too much. I guess how much do you feel
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for him on that play? I think Jacoby is one
of the best teammates I've ever had um and he's
a fighter and he does everything you can to try
and help the team. At the end of the day,
the guys out there fighting and trying to compete to
win the game, and there's a lot of things I
could have done better in the game, like I said earlier,
So we were not even in that situation. So it's
it's tough, but I love Jacobe and I love all
the guys on our team. It's not Jacoby's fault. This
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is translation. It wasn't Jacoby's fault that. This is why
the page are such a pain in the ass. You're
never going to get the true, true answer. You're never
going to get a clear answer. Was he Aaron Belichick
out there? Though, By the way, at the beginning of
that when he says, you're gonna have to ask, because
I mean, I love I love what he said though.
I love that personally, I did too. I like the
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whole thing. I like everything he said. That says he's
taken a lot to flak this year, and a lot
of it's been for you know, his play or laughter
of and the stuff he's battled through there. And he's
got a defensive coordinator calling place for. It's no disrespect
to Ma Patricia. It's just there's gonna be a lot
of frustration. Like he's never really come out and defended Mac.
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It's like at some point he's got to acknowledge the
fact that maybe been a bad idea to get Mappatricias play. Dudes.
By the way, he just think about what he just said.
He's got a defensive coordinator calling melaxed. That's happened before.
But it's no, it's no different what Vance Joseph said.
I'll take a little offense to that. Yeah, you could
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say the same thing saying he's got offensive coator called defense. No, No,
I get it. I get it. I'm just said I've
called offenses before where my offices were dynamic. You know,
I like, I like spacing out. You guys call a
lateral play like that? No around, put that on me.
But what I will not do is defend former players
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anymore that are coaching here. Those days are over. Those
days are you're gonna have to have you have to
just Saturday about that. I don't know. You know, here's
the hard part about Bernie Belichick, though, is He's had
so many assistance and people who are like out on
other teams. It's it's hard because then he's You're not
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gonna get his stamp of approval, you know, I mean
you burned Bill Belichick. You think josh Va Daniels and
Dave Zego are gonna hire you? I mean, I mean
who is Uh? Why why am I blanking on the
name uh former head coach of the Browns with the Jets? Now?
Now why am I? Why am I blanking on the
name Brady? Your former coach? Mangini? Um? Yeah, like Mangini.
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Like Mangini seemed like he burned that bridge and that
hasn't really been built up beat, hasn't really been repaired.
He still doesn't fool with that was gone. I mean,
think about that. He had a shot with the Jets
and then he got, you know in with the Browns,
which if I'm not mistaken too, I think it had
to do with if you look at the general manager
of I think the the Cleveland Guardians now obviously not
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the team at the time. There's some sort of marriage
connection too with all of that, where where I I
do have to look back and do like who's married
to who and all that. But I remember like he
got in the year of Randy Learning. That was one
of the reasons why man Gitti got the job in Cleveland.
It was because some of the connections. There's some family ties,
someone married into something and that that was That was
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how that all started. And that was the last, you
know shot he got his head coach um whatever Tom
Brady represented as the developed quarterback for that group. I
don't know if it was a perfect storm in terms
of you had Ty law, you had Lawyer Malloy, you
had Teddy Bruski, you had Willie McGinnis, who about a
way said say what's I saw what Willie mack yesterday
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at a volleyball tournament. Uh and then you you you
have it's up to cute. Uh yeah, and he is
still yoked the f up, by the way. Different. I
walked up on Mac. I was like, what are you doing, bro,
like staying he's not ready for the hour? Like he's different.
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You stay ready for the war? Like really actually is different,
He's just different, Willie Mac, Willie Max, stay ready for
the war. He came walking walking back like what, like
is there it's Sunday while you here giving that Willie
Mack back. He yoked up though I ain't gonna hold him.
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But anyway, how big is he? Six five? He might
be bigger than really biggest human beings. I saw a
ton of former athletes with with their kids at this
volleyball tournament, and it's is like a parade of all
these major athletes. And Willie Mac came in that bitch
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looking swol anyway, and then you got on the offensive
side of the ball, you got you got like a
plethora of Like people don't give Troy Troy Brown and
Dave Patton a whole lot of credit for for the
type of players that they were in Branch, but those
were brilliant players as well. The amount of leadership folk
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you know, in the backfield, along with what was Antoine
Antoine Smith, I want to say it was there there.
I mean the the assortment of of guys, not to
mention you had Drew bletso there Originally, I think the
development of Tom Brady under all of those consummate pros
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and very very developed leaders created something along with what
Bill Belichick brought to the table with his coaching staff.
With Tom Brady, We'll never see that again. We will
never see that again. And fair or not fair, Bill
Belichick will be judged and measured based off of the
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type of success that he has post Tom Brady, and
he will never have another Tom Brady. He would he
may never have an assortment of players as good as
that that period of time that he had when he
won all of those Super Bowls. It wasn't just Tom Brady,
you know, you you have other Hall of famers, you know,
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Seymour and and and law. We're on that team. And
I would say Willie McGinnis should be in the conversation
of being a Hall of Famer. To my point, I
just don't believe that Bill Belichick will be able to
live up to being what we have come to know
as Bill Belichick, and now that you have that that
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vision of who he is, that that idea of who
he is, there's always gonna be tremendous letdowns when you
have moments. Now this was a brain for for real, Like,
whoever did that, that's you made your coach And if
it was him, he made himself look bad. If it
was if he was a part of it, whoever did that,
you made your yourselves look bad. But I just don't
believe that we will ever see Bill Belichick without a
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team or Tom Brady, like he's had live up to
the expectations that will be on him the rest of
the way. And that's kind of hard because he's had
a brilliant coaching career and you know, how how does
it how does he get judged moving forward? Are you
saying that he was rooting against the box in the
Super Bowl a couple of years ago, it was rooting
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against the bucks. I'm just I'm just saying, I know
for him, his success has has dwindled, you know, since
since having since having Tom Brady. It's a there's a
direct cause and effect to his departure. And listen, had
he retired you're still gonna deal with the same scrutiny
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that comes with not having Tom Brady anymore. But ultimately,
he developed Tom Brady, so he gets the credit for it.
But I still think that coaches are ultimately judged on
the successes that they have, and he's had more success
than any other coach. And now we're looking at those
lack of successes and and it's hard to believe that
Bill Belichick would be connected to a play like that.
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It's hard to believe that he would be connected to
struggling in a season like he has. There's uh, there's
another what was it the Dolphins a couple of years ago.
There was that lateral play that ended that game as
well too. That was one of those miracle plays. So
he's been on the wrong end of a couple of these. Now,
how about the coincidence or the irony of it going
to Chandler Jones. I mean, it could have gone to
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any other player. Yeah, that's when I got away. That's
the one that he's got to look at. And for
all the all the times he didn't pay a guy,
maybe that was the guy who should have paid, you know.
And by the way, who did he got they traded
into Arizona for an offensive lineman who I think they
cut less than a year later. I'm almost positive they
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cut him les than a year later. So not not
a great a great spot for Belichick, but nonetheless, the
Raiders get it done again. Burdo's in a better mood,
which is always good for us. I mean, burnos Bo.
We try to tell you, Berto, these Raiders, man look
out for him. You guys Ronnie lost, say you gotta
hide your finger though with that Ronnie lost for Oakland. Yeah, Berto,
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come on, bit, but you try to tell you, man,
do not give up in these Raiders. They're back back.
He's nothing, They're back. You gotta win the less the
less three games. Yeah, well it's it's a little bit
with the last three unless you win the fourth, you know, right. Yeah,
they're on a roll. Berto, Raiders. Come throw them up, Burt,
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throw them or something. And I'll tell you what. You
know what that's for Willie Matt and that that's for swoll. Yeah,
I'm at the same time Willie Matt, that's what they
call it. Willie at the same time. Matt. You know,
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friends listening on the Yellowhorn of the Twin Cities k Fan,
they got to see a little bit of history, a
little bit of history on Saturday as the Minnesota Vikings
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pull off the biggest comeback in regular season history, down
thirty three to nothing at the half to the Indianapolis
Colts and LaVar's Jeff Saturday led Indianapolis Colts only to
to win that game. All the time fish back swimming,
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he ain't in my boat, all right, Well okay, so
so Matt Ryan's just we're gonna leave him out of
this even though he's got a track record. Now, whoa
why are we Matt Ryan defense? No? Yeah, that's my
issue with this whole thing. Is the Super Bowl? This game,
Like I get it, they you know, the offense didn't
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score all the points, but come on, man, at some
point we gotta start holding a defense accountable and all
this can't be keep you know, hammering my guy Matt
Ryan like that, Mattie Ice, I'm holding the coach accountable
like it is the defense? It was the defense? Is that?
I mean? I don't I don't thirty thirty, thirty four,
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thirty three, thirty three, nothing I had three. How far
into the third quarter were they up? They kicked a
field goal. At the end of the third it was
thirty six to fourteen. There you go. Yeah, thirty six
to fourteen. You needed twenty two points. You need it
twenty two points to be able to just tie that game.
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Just tie the game, let alone win the game. You
need it twenty two to tie it in the fourth
quarter in the National Football League game. Everybody who was
a part of that coats uh effort coach is players
should all be fired, should all be fired? Cheez, you
should all be fine. You're a pro. You're you're a pro.
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You gave up that amount of like y'all can't hold
the ball long enough to not let them get three
possessions three three touchdown possessions. By the way, how many
lung darts you think Jim Mercy went through the might
he might have went a little stronger than lung darts?
Oh yeah, yeah, he might need a little bump or something.
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I don't know, I don't know, well, I don't know,
but I mean, well, I mean, I know what the
slang term is but I'm just saying he just needed
a little like some coffee or something. You know what
that means. Yeah, A couple of coffee, Yeah, ground espresso. Yeah.
I don't know what you guys are ting Cuban coffee?
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Is that one of those street slang words. I mean,
I don't know. He just needed something a little stronger
than than lung darts, I would assume, by the way,
those Cuban Brady, do you get Cuban coffees a lot?
In my in Florida? Do you get him a lot? Not?
Not a lot? You gotta go to the right places
like that. There's a there's a Cuban spot near me
that I tend to go to. Um. Obviously, the family
literally defected came here and all that. Um, great story.
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The sun who's taking it over is awesome guy. So
I'll go there and get one and grab one. Uh.
Sometimes want to go down to Miami to the airport.
But they get you. They they'll keep you up, that's
for sure. Oh yeah, they're fantastic. I feel like jimmers.
They needed not to just stay up, but he just
needed to be like happier. Can I ask this though?
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Think about the turn of emotions from Jim Mursy from
the first half. You were kicking the crap out of
a team that's going to the playoffs, pretty much the Vikings.
I think we'd all agree that they're going to the playoffs.
It's just a matter of if they're you know, when
the division, which they've now clinched retrospect um, but they're
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going to the playoffs. They're they're eating the crap out
of the Vikings in their house in the first half.
If you, I mean imagine Jimmers say the bottles, he's
popping the songs, he's singing the trees, he's leaning up
against celebrating what he thought was a sure fire butt
kicking of the Minnesota Vikings. Always see that have to
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witness the worst lost in NFL history. I mean, I
just I can only imagine his emotions at all this Well,
he made history, you know. I mean, you've got to
be proud about the fact that he put the her
Say name in the Colts in the history book. How
much does this impact Jeff Saturday being able to get
that job up long term? I mean, I think it
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was impacted before before now I mean I do, I mean,
maybe in the last week or so, you know, maybe
maybe a little you know, I don't know, but yeah
I do. From day one, day one, what's where's the
sarcasm coming from? How far back before they hired him?
I don't know, like you've been you've been writing. I
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was after the first win, After the first win, I
was like, okay, here we go. He came in, he
revived him. They kind of showed some some gut, some grit,
you know. And Jeff Saturday was, you know, the the
coach who many sound from Jeff Saturday. I just you know,
I just want to make sure people here, do we
have any sound. No, we don't have we can we
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get we're after ning Jeff's we don't know that he
was deferring to coach Belichick. We kind of answered the question.
I'm gonna have to ask coach Belichick. Uh, that's brutal man.
And you know, you know the thing about it, though,
is that to Brady's point, Matt Ryan's gonna be the
one who's got to take the hit. He's the fall guy. Yeah,
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he's got to be the guy. And and it's just
the ongoing jokes, uh, the blown leading the super Bowl,
this one that was that was I just want to
give that due the hug MANE like, yeah, yeah, you're
doing enough. Man, it just seems like no one's ever
helping you. Like he's never gonna help around you. If
I'm just Saturday, I throw everybody under the bus. It's
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your only chance. You want to return next year, you
want that shot at getting the job, you better throw
everybody under the bus. By the way, I'm taking my
hat at the ringdow to coach with the far when
he gets a head coaching, because because I know where
this whole thing is going to get canned. Yeah well yeah,
it's like we lose a couple of games. Next thing
you know, everyone's gone. You're like, okay, well I knew
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that was coming. It's like the Matt Naggy in Chicago
that everybody else's fall I'm just sad what his options are. Q.
I would never throw you under the bus, you know, fired.
I believe I'm assuming that I would never do firing,
But I gotta I gotta admit though if I was
in that position, I don't know how I would handle it,
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you know well, I mean to your point, though, it's
not like he hired he didn't hire him. He didn't
hire him. You had to hire me because these same
fools that got us lose in these big old leads
and making history are still the assistants. And to that point,
some of these players too, like that. There they are
the reason why we lost and made history. Like, think
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about this, It was my coaching. That guy is that
that big lead. It was our coaching. It was their
coaching and lack thereof in our players ability to finish
the game that let us losing this game. There you go,
that's me if I'm just I mean, what we did
We see him on the sidelines of the second half,
was he was he not having maybe a drink or two?
What Jim said to the second half side they are
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drinking buddies from what that? That's what we hear. Yeah,
you want to hear from your guy, Jeff Saturday. Yeah,
there we go. All right. This was Jeff Saturday post
game LaVar's guy, moments before he called Lavarre to check in. Ultimately,
again it comes down to making plays, not sustaining drives.
I know, we had some conversions on penalties defensively, which
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is frustrating. Um and again and we penalized ourselves offensively.
Have a fumble in our own red zone or backed
up um again. That's how you keep teams like this
in it and make no mistakes. We weren't overlooking how
good this offense was. I knew how explosive they were.
We all did making those mistakes. Keep teams like that around,
and once you get momentum in the NFL, it's it's
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hard to swing that thing there. It is. I mean,
there's not enough momentum in the world to give up
that type of lead with that little amount of time left.
And what's the biggest lead you ever gave up in
a game against Tom Brady in college who I think
we were up by ten, maybe we were about ten
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with like eight minutes left in Happy Valley, and that
mother's Ayeain came back and and through two crossing routes
against our um previous look watch this, watch me throw
them under the bus. Our prevent defense. Marcus Knight ran
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through the middle of it, which in prevent, if you're
gonna go prevent, then at least half three have have
a center field safety and two safeties. If you're if
you're gonna go preva and you're gonna go through prevent,
please do that Marcus Knight ran through our prevent defense twice,
same exact play, the same exact way, and scored on us.
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And and I knew then that Tom Brady was special
because he was delivering and and that defense. Again, you
had a future one and two overall pick in the
NFL draft, you had a second round I think we
had to to second rounders like we had. We had
a flunk of bad boys on that defense, and Tom
diced us up with like less than it had to
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have been less than eight minutes on in the game,
one of the most hard outside of Minnesota, beating us
with less second hell Mary and kicking a field goal
to basically give us our first loss and eliminate us
from contention from playing the national title game. That's the biggest,
most painful loss ever in m in my career period. Yeah,
(29:00):
but I would say because it's Tom Brady, a little
bit easier to No, not at the time, not at
the time, and even and even now retrospect is like,
let's keep doing what like And this is what I
would have said to to the Colts, keep doing what
got you there, Like, why would you not continue to
(29:20):
do what got you there? You know, sometimes that whole
honor system, like, oh, we didn't want to run it
up or this that another f that man, you keep
doing what got you there, because you know what the
guys put in that work during the course of the week,
put in that preparation. We didn't get in into this
game to play pre event for eight minutes. I don't
know what type of offense they were running. I don't
(29:41):
know what type of defense they were running, but it
looked very different from what they were running when they
got to the lead that they got against the Vikings. Yeah,
you guys had a seven seventeen lead with nine minutes
and change left, and then uh yeah, well at least
it's a little better. Nine minutes is a little longer.
(30:04):
That was a little bit more time that that was rough.
Imagine playing prevent defense for nine minutes. And and by
the way, you're you're you're running in the in the
big ten, You're you're running plays where it's like we're
gonna run, run, run, punt the ball like nothing, nothing else.
We know exactly what they're about to do. Run run, run,
(30:25):
punt the ball for nine minutes. That man came downfield
in them last couple of drives. It I guess we
should have known. I guess we should have known. You
say that, though, but like I remember when I came
back from my senior year, like that's all people played
against us. It was like prevent twenty two Tampa. Like,
(30:46):
I'll it's in particular funny, you're all the mater, Like
I'll never forget dropping back every time going damn. Like
they just keep running the mic out of there. Everyone's
playing soft as a three man rush. We just check
it out in the back, check it down in the act.
And I was like, this is really frustrating. Well, I'll
tell you it might have been frustrating, but Tom found
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the gap and oh yeah, no we whooped. Y'all's asked
that year. But I'm just saying I have selective memory
work and it was entire game. I'm glad you got
to say that on live hockey to remember hockey. They did.
By the way, LaVar, do you know what Notre Dame
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said after that win too, You come to Notre Dame
to win championships? No, they said we are? Yeah? Did
they really said we are? And they said you ain't.
I just should say that I'm gonna make a nice
sizeable donation with Bagoula, so that doesn't happen anymore. Let's go,
let's go, let's let's get our let's get our hockey team. Hey,
should that be the sport we picked to be competitive
(31:49):
against each other in hockey? Let's go wrestling. You know
I've got my brother in law's brothers on Penn States
hockey teams. Yeah, we got a good we gotta go
hockey team to you do. Yeah, it's very well funded. Yeah,
but let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go wrestling.
Let's let's go here. You're not hitting this conversation, but
(32:13):
Penn State's got one of the best wrestlings. You're not
hitting this conversations before. We don't have a wrestling program. Well,
we'll get what you want. There's not even a club sport.
We'll get you on. Yeah, just so you can wrestle less.
Get the yes, Yes, yes, it is two pros and
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then Brady talking about they whooped our ask god, Well,
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to play for tonight, as Paul plus Leslie. They played
it for like an entire game against US. Is a
fine young man, isn't he? He was? I remember I
kept saying, I'm like, what are y'all doing? I was like,
blitz or something, do something different. I mean, that might
be the one dude that rivals you for Superhero. Good
(32:56):
looks Bro. I just gotta be honestlyhero. He is a
good looking dude. Man God, Paul pozz Lesnie Captain Puzz.
Yeah yeah, Bro. Didn't look like Superman like the real
life like Superman Superman like you got you got the
Q version, you got the puzz version, like yeah, man.
And he's the great. He's possibly the greatest linebacker in
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the history of the school on on everything at what
school appen State. He dropped that beric. He pulled that
banneric in twice, pulled it in twice. I didn't do that.
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paint in the ash man. Why is it not sudden death?
Once they getting overtime meaning yeah, so they go into
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extra time and a goal and and Argentina scored a
goal and I was like, oh, it's over, And then
I was like, oh wait, there there's still widen up
to play. And then obviously a pop it comes down
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But then I'm like watching one, why are we still
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if you let those two teams go on forever like playing,
I'm sure they would just end up in a tie
at some point if you want to play forever. And
also if you think about it, the way penalty kicks
determined games like that, it's not not the greatest thing
in the world. That's why in the NHL when they
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keep going until somebody wins because it's not really the
(36:57):
most fair thing in the world. You could outplay a
team for the entire game, and all of a sudden,
if they're better, Yeah, on penalty kicks, it's over. I'm
with you on that. I mean, people tend to forget
like that idea came about to be able to end
games faster than the course usually. What would they get
to that period of the season for player's safety. Yeah,
because because they want to want to determine who the
true winner is a better team, but to they want
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either by playing you know, the longest game in the
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Um well, he decided to put it on for an
online auction instead, So instead of that three million dollars,
he only got one point five on the auction. That sucks.
And then what's he gonna get out like what we
do get like seven fifty grand after taxes? How does
that work? Ready? Here the account and how does that
work as far as what he's gonna get after tax um?
Let's see you want car? Who cares? Yeah? Can your hand?
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The whole baseball things well done. That's how it's done.
I have three million dollars turns into one point five
believe we got anything else? We did have a parley, uh,
a five leg parley that paid out thanks to that
Raiders Patriots game guy made uh turn thirty one dollars
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Just a weekend in general? Man, what a weekend of
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sporting events? Yeah, that was pretty awesome the World Cup
yesterday and then also all the NFL action. Uh and
there's obviously plenty to get to. But I don't have
you ever seen an ending like what we saw in
Las Vegas between the Raiders and Patriots. So so this
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is history that we saw yesterday. Yeah, a complete cold town. Yeah,
and and it's so do you want to hear us
break it down? Or should we? Boy? Should we let
Scott Zolac, the voice of the New England Patriots breakdown?
All right? So all right, so you want to hear
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this is the final call on the Patriots Radio network
and just listen to Scott zola disgusted at the end
of this entire call here it was taken away. Now
in a third and ten three seconds left, Jones will
give it to Steven Sandy started ride. He runs it
up the middle, hit by Chandler Jones, slips and hit
across the forty five for the stiff arm off attack
on the forty He lost the football and Jacob me
(02:30):
Byrs picks it up. He circles back and he throws
it the class the field trip. Oh my god, just
picked up by Chandler Jones. He breaks away to the thirty.
He runs to the tent, He runs to the tag,
to the zone threal touchdowns raids like this might be
(02:51):
one of the dumbest teams I've ever seen, and a
victory for Las Vegas. Oh my god? What do you
what do you do like? How do you like if
if you're on that, if you're on the Patriots team,
what do you do like? You can? Can? Can? We
just kind of look at that way and try to
(03:12):
break down what may have happened because Jacobe Myers I
have the utmost respect for him, for the men in
which he handled things. Yea, he stood there, he answered
all the questions, he took all the blame. Yet what
in the hell was Romandre Stevenson doing. He never should
(03:33):
have pitched it in the first place. It was that
he lost it. When you go back and watched the
multiple replays, he pitched it like it was almost as
if they called a run play. And at some point
Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, Bill Belichick, someone said, hey, if
you get far enough down there and plus territory, start
(03:54):
pitching it around, trying to go and make a play,
go score touchdown. I think Stevenson said afterwards it was
you're supposed to be a draw play and nothing more.
I don't know. I think that's what doesn't make sense.
There's no way he went rogue. He he would pitch it,
and then it doesn't make any sense why Jakobe Meyers there.
(04:17):
There had to have been something that was said, and
these guys are all covering for Bill Belichick, But Bill
Belichick didn't. Bill Belichick's after the game like it was dumb,
it was dumb football, or something to that effect. He
he said something that to me made it sound like
that's what they wanted. There's no that's the Patriots. That's
the Patriots. You're not doing laterals on rogue, not for
(04:42):
the Patriots. Like, if there was one team you say
you're not going rogue on a play, it's the Patriots.
I Mean, he's fired dudes for being late and ice
storms like, you're not. You're not going rogue on the Patriots.
I'm sorry. You lateral more than once. That was that
was predetermined. Let's try to let's try to lateral it.
(05:03):
Let's try to get into the end zone that was
pre deterred. So who's the most likely, corporate Patricia. Here's
what I don't know is I've never been a part
of a team that had that sort of play in
like where you'd run the football and then looked a
lateral like we've always had it where you'd have the
running back kind of release out on a short route.
(05:24):
Once everyone else ran down field, you throw it to him.
Then then it kind of starts the lateral back and forth.
And it used. The ladders usually happen a little quicker
um or it's like a hook and ladder. Right, you
take a shot somewhere down thirty yards down field, then
they're pitching it to some guy coming across underneath. Again,
not that play either, So it was just it was
(05:44):
really odd to me that watching that plan, thinking Okay,
they're running it out, trying to get into overtime, and
then you watch what en Susan go, Wow that they
just did that, That just happened. I just I've never
seen anything like that before. And it had to have
been it had to have been something that was mentioned
(06:05):
by Matt Patricia. It had to have been because that's
the last guy who's gonna be calling in any communication
that it's quarterback, and maybe even something Matt Jones had
to echo to his team. But like good soldiers that
they are, you know, everyone's gonna bite the bullet or
everyone's gonna is gonna take the shots for Bill Belichick,
for Matt Patricia. That's just the new England way you
(06:26):
want to hear. See Here was mac Jones mac Jones.
Mac Jones was asked after the game about the play.
Here's what he had to say. David just said that
it was a called draw play from Andre takes the ball.
Was he told to initiate a pitch play if possible,
if there was something he saw, Was he told do
(06:49):
what you can and then go down. Yeah, I think
you just have to ask Cook Belichick. Um, you know,
obviously we have a plan for the end of the game,
and I just didn't do good enough job there. So
I have to watch the taping to better and do
all the things, you know, so we don't even have
to be in that situation. Mac Jacoby said just a
few minutes ago to reporters in the locker room that
he was just trying to be a hero, trying to
do too much. I guess how much do you feel
(07:10):
for him on that play? I think Jacoby is one
of the best teammates I've ever had um and he's
a fighter and he does everything you can to try
and help the team. At the end of the day,
the guys out there fighting and trying to compete to
win the game, and there's a lot of things I
could have done better in the game, like I said earlier,
So we were not even in that situation. So it's
it's tough, but I love Jacobe and I love all
the guys on our team. It's not Jacoby's fault. This
(07:32):
is translation. It wasn't Jacoby's fault that. This is why
the page are such a pain in the ass. You're
never going to get the true, true answer. You're never
going to get a clear answer. Was he Aaron Belichick
out there? Though, By the way, at the beginning of
that when he says, you're gonna have to ask, because
I mean, I love I love what he said though.
I love that personally, I did too. I like the
(07:55):
whole thing. I like everything he said. That says he's
taken a lot to flak this year, and a lot
of it's been for you know, his play or laughter
of and the stuff he's battled through there. And he's
got a defensive coordinator calling place for. It's no disrespect
to Ma Patricia. It's just there's gonna be a lot
of frustration. Like he's never really come out and defended Mac.
(08:18):
It's like at some point he's got to acknowledge the
fact that maybe been a bad idea to get Mappatricias play. Dudes.
By the way, he just think about what he just said.
He's got a defensive coordinator calling melaxed. That's happened before.
But it's no, it's no different what Vance Joseph said.
I'll take a little offense to that. Yeah, you could
(08:43):
say the same thing saying he's got offensive coator called defense. No, No,
I get it. I get it. I'm just said I've
called offenses before where my offices were dynamic. You know,
I like, I like spacing out. You guys call a
lateral play like that? No around, put that on me.
But what I will not do is defend former players
(09:03):
anymore that are coaching here. Those days are over. Those
days are you're gonna have to have you have to
just Saturday about that. I don't know. You know, here's
the hard part about Bernie Belichick, though, is He's had
so many assistance and people who are like out on
other teams. It's it's hard because then he's You're not
(09:25):
gonna get his stamp of approval, you know, I mean
you burned Bill Belichick. You think josh Va Daniels and
Dave Zego are gonna hire you? I mean, I mean
who is Uh? Why why am I blanking on the
name uh former head coach of the Browns with the Jets? Now?
Now why am I? Why am I blanking on the
name Brady? Your former coach? Mangini? Um? Yeah, like Mangini.
(09:50):
Like Mangini seemed like he burned that bridge and that
hasn't really been built up beat, hasn't really been repaired.
He still doesn't fool with that was gone. I mean,
think about that. He had a shot with the Jets
and then he got, you know in with the Browns,
which if I'm not mistaken too, I think it had
to do with if you look at the general manager
of I think the the Cleveland Guardians now obviously not
(10:12):
the team at the time. There's some sort of marriage
connection too with all of that, where where I I
do have to look back and do like who's married
to who and all that. But I remember like he
got in the year of Randy Learning. That was one
of the reasons why man Gitti got the job in Cleveland.
It was because some of the connections. There's some family ties,
someone married into something and that that was That was
(10:34):
how that all started. And that was the last, you
know shot he got his head coach um whatever Tom
Brady represented as the developed quarterback for that group. I
don't know if it was a perfect storm in terms
of you had Ty law, you had Lawyer Malloy, you
had Teddy Bruski, you had Willie McGinnis, who about a
way said say what's I saw what Willie mack yesterday
(10:56):
at a volleyball tournament. Uh and then you you you
have it's up to cute. Uh yeah, and he is
still yoked the f up, by the way. Different. I
walked up on Mac. I was like, what are you doing, bro,
like staying he's not ready for the hour? Like he's different.
(11:17):
You stay ready for the war? Like really actually is different,
He's just different, Willie Mac, Willie Max, stay ready for
the war. He came walking walking back like what, like
is there it's Sunday while you here giving that Willie
Mack back. He yoked up though I ain't gonna hold him.
(11:45):
But anyway, how big is he? Six five? He might
be bigger than really biggest human beings. I saw a
ton of former athletes with with their kids at this
volleyball tournament, and it's is like a parade of all
these major athletes. And Willie Mac came in that bitch
(12:05):
looking swol anyway, and then you got on the offensive
side of the ball, you got you got like a
plethora of Like people don't give Troy Troy Brown and
Dave Patton a whole lot of credit for for the
type of players that they were in Branch, but those
were brilliant players as well. The amount of leadership folk
(12:28):
you know, in the backfield, along with what was Antoine
Antoine Smith, I want to say it was there there.
I mean the the assortment of of guys, not to
mention you had Drew bletso there Originally, I think the
development of Tom Brady under all of those consummate pros
(12:50):
and very very developed leaders created something along with what
Bill Belichick brought to the table with his coaching staff.
With Tom Brady, We'll never see that again. We will
never see that again. And fair or not fair, Bill
Belichick will be judged and measured based off of the
(13:14):
type of success that he has post Tom Brady, and
he will never have another Tom Brady. He would he
may never have an assortment of players as good as
that that period of time that he had when he
won all of those Super Bowls. It wasn't just Tom Brady,
you know, you you have other Hall of famers, you know,
(13:36):
Seymour and and and law. We're on that team. And
I would say Willie McGinnis should be in the conversation
of being a Hall of Famer. To my point, I
just don't believe that Bill Belichick will be able to
live up to being what we have come to know
as Bill Belichick, and now that you have that that
(13:58):
vision of who he is, that that idea of who
he is, there's always gonna be tremendous letdowns when you
have moments. Now this was a brain for for real, Like,
whoever did that, that's you made your coach And if
it was him, he made himself look bad. If it
was if he was a part of it, whoever did that,
you made your yourselves look bad. But I just don't
believe that we will ever see Bill Belichick without a
(14:21):
team or Tom Brady, like he's had live up to
the expectations that will be on him the rest of
the way. And that's kind of hard because he's had
a brilliant coaching career and you know, how how does
it how does he get judged moving forward? Are you
saying that he was rooting against the box in the
Super Bowl a couple of years ago, it was rooting
(14:43):
against the bucks. I'm just I'm just saying, I know
for him, his success has has dwindled, you know, since
since having since having Tom Brady. It's a there's a
direct cause and effect to his departure. And listen, had
he retired you're still gonna deal with the same scrutiny
(15:04):
that comes with not having Tom Brady anymore. But ultimately,
he developed Tom Brady, so he gets the credit for it.
But I still think that coaches are ultimately judged on
the successes that they have, and he's had more success
than any other coach. And now we're looking at those
lack of successes and and it's hard to believe that
Bill Belichick would be connected to a play like that.
(15:26):
It's hard to believe that he would be connected to
struggling in a season like he has. There's uh, there's
another what was it the Dolphins a couple of years ago.
There was that lateral play that ended that game as
well too. That was one of those miracle plays. So
he's been on the wrong end of a couple of these. Now,
how about the coincidence or the irony of it going
to Chandler Jones. I mean, it could have gone to
(15:46):
any other player. Yeah, that's when I got away. That's
the one that he's got to look at. And for
all the all the times he didn't pay a guy,
maybe that was the guy who should have paid, you know.
And by the way, who did he got they traded
into Arizona for an offensive lineman who I think they
cut less than a year later. I'm almost positive they
(16:08):
cut him les than a year later. So not not
a great a great spot for Belichick, but nonetheless, the
Raiders get it done again. Burdo's in a better mood,
which is always good for us. I mean, burnos Bo.
We try to tell you, Berto, these Raiders, man look
out for him. You guys Ronnie lost, say you gotta
hide your finger though with that Ronnie lost for Oakland. Yeah, Berto,
(16:32):
come on, bit, but you try to tell you, man,
do not give up in these Raiders. They're back back.
He's nothing, They're back. You gotta win the less the
less three games. Yeah, well it's it's a little bit
with the last three unless you win the fourth, you know, right. Yeah,
they're on a roll. Berto, Raiders. Come throw them up, Burt,
(16:52):
throw them or something. And I'll tell you what. You
know what that's for Willie Matt and that that's for swoll. Yeah,
I'm at the same time Willie Matt, that's what they
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friends listening on the Yellowhorn of the Twin Cities k Fan,
they got to see a little bit of history, a
little bit of history on Saturday as the Minnesota Vikings
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pull off the biggest comeback in regular season history, down
thirty three to nothing at the half to the Indianapolis
Colts and LaVar's Jeff Saturday led Indianapolis Colts only to
to win that game. All the time fish back swimming,
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he ain't in my boat, all right, Well okay, so
so Matt Ryan's just we're gonna leave him out of
this even though he's got a track record. Now, whoa
why are we Matt Ryan defense? No? Yeah, that's my
issue with this whole thing. Is the Super Bowl? This game,
Like I get it, they you know, the offense didn't
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score all the points, but come on, man, at some
point we gotta start holding a defense accountable and all
this can't be keep you know, hammering my guy Matt
Ryan like that, Mattie Ice, I'm holding the coach accountable
like it is the defense? It was the defense? Is that?
I mean? I don't I don't thirty thirty, thirty four,
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thirty three, thirty three, nothing I had three. How far
into the third quarter were they up? They kicked a
field goal. At the end of the third it was
thirty six to fourteen. There you go. Yeah, thirty six
to fourteen. You needed twenty two points. You need it
twenty two points to be able to just tie that game.
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Just tie the game, let alone win the game. You
need it twenty two to tie it in the fourth
quarter in the National Football League game. Everybody who was
a part of that coats uh effort coach is players
should all be fired, should all be fired? Cheez, you
should all be fine. You're a pro. You're you're a pro.
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You gave up that amount of like y'all can't hold
the ball long enough to not let them get three
possessions three three touchdown possessions. By the way, how many
lung darts you think Jim Mercy went through the might
he might have went a little stronger than lung darts?
Oh yeah, yeah, he might need a little bump or something.
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I don't know, I don't know, well, I don't know,
but I mean, well, I mean, I know what the
slang term is but I'm just saying he just needed
a little like some coffee or something. You know what
that means. Yeah, A couple of coffee, Yeah, ground espresso. Yeah.
I don't know what you guys are ting Cuban coffee?
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Is that one of those street slang words. I mean,
I don't know. He just needed something a little stronger
than than lung darts, I would assume, by the way,
those Cuban Brady, do you get Cuban coffees a lot?
In my in Florida? Do you get him a lot? Not?
Not a lot? You gotta go to the right places
like that. There's a there's a Cuban spot near me
that I tend to go to. Um. Obviously, the family
literally defected came here and all that. Um, great story.
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The sun who's taking it over is awesome guy. So
I'll go there and get one and grab one. Uh.
Sometimes want to go down to Miami to the airport.
But they get you. They they'll keep you up, that's
for sure. Oh yeah, they're fantastic. I feel like jimmers.
They needed not to just stay up, but he just
needed to be like happier. Can I ask this though?
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Think about the turn of emotions from Jim Mursy from
the first half. You were kicking the crap out of
a team that's going to the playoffs, pretty much the Vikings.
I think we'd all agree that they're going to the playoffs.
It's just a matter of if they're you know, when
the division, which they've now clinched retrospect um, but they're
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going to the playoffs. They're they're eating the crap out
of the Vikings in their house in the first half.
If you, I mean imagine Jimmers say the bottles, he's
popping the songs, he's singing the trees, he's leaning up
against celebrating what he thought was a sure fire butt
kicking of the Minnesota Vikings. Always see that have to
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witness the worst lost in NFL history. I mean, I
just I can only imagine his emotions at all this Well,
he made history, you know. I mean, you've got to
be proud about the fact that he put the her
Say name in the Colts in the history book. How
much does this impact Jeff Saturday being able to get
that job up long term? I mean, I think it
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was impacted before before now I mean I do, I mean,
maybe in the last week or so, you know, maybe
maybe a little you know, I don't know, but yeah
I do. From day one, day one, what's where's the
sarcasm coming from? How far back before they hired him?
I don't know, like you've been you've been writing. I
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was after the first win, After the first win, I
was like, okay, here we go. He came in, he
revived him. They kind of showed some some gut, some grit,
you know. And Jeff Saturday was, you know, the the
coach who many sound from Jeff Saturday. I just you know,
I just want to make sure people here, do we
have any sound. No, we don't have we can we
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get we're after ning Jeff's we don't know that he
was deferring to coach Belichick. We kind of answered the question.
I'm gonna have to ask coach Belichick. Uh, that's brutal man.
And you know, you know the thing about it, though,
is that to Brady's point, Matt Ryan's gonna be the
one who's got to take the hit. He's the fall guy. Yeah,
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he's got to be the guy. And and it's just
the ongoing jokes, uh, the blown leading the super Bowl,
this one that was that was I just want to
give that due the hug MANE like, yeah, yeah, you're
doing enough. Man, it just seems like no one's ever
helping you. Like he's never gonna help around you. If
I'm just Saturday, I throw everybody under the bus. It's
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your only chance. You want to return next year, you
want that shot at getting the job, you better throw
everybody under the bus. By the way, I'm taking my
hat at the ringdow to coach with the far when
he gets a head coaching, because because I know where
this whole thing is going to get canned. Yeah well yeah,
it's like we lose a couple of games. Next thing
you know, everyone's gone. You're like, okay, well I knew
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that was coming. It's like the Matt Naggy in Chicago
that everybody else's fall I'm just sad what his options are. Q.
I would never throw you under the bus, you know, fired.
I believe I'm assuming that I would never do firing,
But I gotta I gotta admit though if I was
in that position, I don't know how I would handle it,
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you know well, I mean to your point, though, it's
not like he hired he didn't hire him. He didn't
hire him. You had to hire me because these same
fools that got us lose in these big old leads
and making history are still the assistants. And to that point,
some of these players too, like that. There they are
the reason why we lost and made history. Like, think
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about this, It was my coaching. That guy is that
that big lead. It was our coaching. It was their
coaching and lack thereof in our players ability to finish
the game that let us losing this game. There you go,
that's me if I'm just I mean, what we did
We see him on the sidelines of the second half,
was he was he not having maybe a drink or two?
What Jim said to the second half side they are
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drinking buddies from what that? That's what we hear. Yeah,
you want to hear from your guy, Jeff Saturday. Yeah,
there we go. All right. This was Jeff Saturday post
game LaVar's guy, moments before he called Lavarre to check in. Ultimately,
again it comes down to making plays, not sustaining drives.
I know, we had some conversions on penalties defensively, which
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is frustrating. Um and again and we penalized ourselves offensively.
Have a fumble in our own red zone or backed
up um again. That's how you keep teams like this
in it and make no mistakes. We weren't overlooking how
good this offense was. I knew how explosive they were.
We all did making those mistakes. Keep teams like that around,
and once you get momentum in the NFL, it's it's
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hard to swing that thing there. It is. I mean,
there's not enough momentum in the world to give up
that type of lead with that little amount of time left.
And what's the biggest lead you ever gave up in
a game against Tom Brady in college who I think
we were up by ten, maybe we were about ten
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with like eight minutes left in Happy Valley, and that
mother's Ayeain came back and and through two crossing routes
against our um previous look watch this, watch me throw
them under the bus. Our prevent defense. Marcus Knight ran
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through the middle of it, which in prevent, if you're
gonna go prevent, then at least half three have have
a center field safety and two safeties. If you're if
you're gonna go preva and you're gonna go through prevent,
please do that Marcus Knight ran through our prevent defense twice,
same exact play, the same exact way, and scored on us.
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And and I knew then that Tom Brady was special
because he was delivering and and that defense. Again, you
had a future one and two overall pick in the
NFL draft, you had a second round I think we
had to to second rounders like we had. We had
a flunk of bad boys on that defense, and Tom
diced us up with like less than it had to
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have been less than eight minutes on in the game,
one of the most hard outside of Minnesota, beating us
with less second hell Mary and kicking a field goal
to basically give us our first loss and eliminate us
from contention from playing the national title game. That's the biggest,
most painful loss ever in m in my career period. Yeah,
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but I would say because it's Tom Brady, a little
bit easier to No, not at the time, not at
the time, and even and even now retrospect is like,
let's keep doing what like And this is what I
would have said to to the Colts, keep doing what
got you there, Like, why would you not continue to
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do what got you there? You know, sometimes that whole
honor system, like, oh, we didn't want to run it
up or this that another f that man, you keep
doing what got you there, because you know what the
guys put in that work during the course of the week,
put in that preparation. We didn't get in into this
game to play pre event for eight minutes. I don't
know what type of offense they were running. I don't
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know what type of defense they were running, but it
looked very different from what they were running when they
got to the lead that they got against the Vikings. Yeah,
you guys had a seven seventeen lead with nine minutes
and change left, and then uh yeah, well at least
it's a little better. Nine minutes is a little longer.
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That was a little bit more time that that was rough.
Imagine playing prevent defense for nine minutes. And and by
the way, you're you're you're running in the in the
big ten, You're you're running plays where it's like we're
gonna run, run, run, punt the ball like nothing, nothing else.
We know exactly what they're about to do. Run run, run,
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punt the ball for nine minutes. That man came downfield
in them last couple of drives. It I guess we
should have known. I guess we should have known. You
say that, though, but like I remember when I came
back from my senior year, like that's all people played
against us. It was like prevent twenty two Tampa. Like,
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I'll it's in particular funny, you're all the mater, Like
I'll never forget dropping back every time going damn. Like
they just keep running the mic out of there. Everyone's
playing soft as a three man rush. We just check
it out in the back, check it down in the act.
And I was like, this is really frustrating. Well, I'll
tell you it might have been frustrating, but Tom found
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the gap and oh yeah, no we whooped. Y'all's asked
that year. But I'm just saying I have selective memory
work and it was entire game. I'm glad you got
to say that on live hockey to remember hockey. They did.
By the way, LaVar, do you know what Notre Dame
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said after that win too, You come to Notre Dame
to win championships? No, they said we are? Yeah? Did
they really said we are? And they said you ain't.
I just should say that I'm gonna make a nice
sizeable donation with Bagoula, so that doesn't happen anymore. Let's go,
let's go, let's let's get our let's get our hockey team. Hey,
should that be the sport we picked to be competitive
(31:49):
against each other in hockey? Let's go wrestling. You know
I've got my brother in law's brothers on Penn States
hockey teams. Yeah, we got a good we gotta go
hockey team to you do. Yeah, it's very well funded. Yeah,
but let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go wrestling.
Let's let's go here. You're not hitting this conversation, but
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Penn State's got one of the best wrestlings. You're not
hitting this conversations before. We don't have a wrestling program. Well,
we'll get what you want. There's not even a club sport.
We'll get you on. Yeah, just so you can wrestle less.
Get the yes, Yes, yes, it is two pros and
a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio. Bring up the
(32:33):
fact that we lost a notre game and and and
then Brady talking about they whooped our ask god, Well,
I was just saying, you're like prevents a long time
to play for tonight, as Paul plus Leslie. They played
it for like an entire game against US. Is a
fine young man, isn't he? He was? I remember I
kept saying, I'm like, what are y'all doing? I was like,
blitz or something, do something different. I mean, that might
be the one dude that rivals you for Superhero. Good
(32:56):
looks Bro. I just gotta be honestlyhero. He is a
good looking dude. Man God, Paul pozz Lesnie Captain Puzz.
Yeah yeah, Bro. Didn't look like Superman like the real
life like Superman Superman like you got you got the
Q version, you got the puzz version, like yeah, man.
And he's the great. He's possibly the greatest linebacker in
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the history of the school on on everything at what
school appen State. He dropped that beric. He pulled that
banneric in twice, pulled it in twice. I didn't do that.
I'll tell you that. It's a bad boy. It's two
pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports
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story for somebody who's been made fun of in the
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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bring you in case you missed it. After that, we
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all right, fellas. In case you missed it, I've got
some good news and some bad news. The good news
is is the Drake curse might finally be over. Drake,
the famous rapper who's notorious for jinxing teams, put down
a cool one million dollars on Argentina to win the
World Cup, which they did. But here's the catch. He
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bet in a market that doesn't count extra time, he
would have won two point seven five million. Instead he
loses that million because Argentina one, of course, on penalty kicks,
so that million dollars is long gone. Soccer bettings are
paint in the ash man. Why is it not sudden death?
Once they getting overtime meaning yeah, so they go into
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extra time and a goal and and Argentina scored a
goal and I was like, oh, it's over, And then
I was like, oh wait, there there's still widen up
to play. And then obviously a pop it comes down
gets his third goal for the hat trick, which by
the way, he's stud yeah um, both him and Messy.
But then I'm like watching one, why are we still
doing this? Like did in Argentina just come up? Like like,
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if you let those two teams go on forever like playing,
I'm sure they would just end up in a tie
at some point if you want to play forever. And
also if you think about it, the way penalty kicks
determined games like that, it's not not the greatest thing
in the world. That's why in the NHL when they
go to the playoffs, they don't have shootouts. They just
keep going until somebody wins because it's not really the
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most fair thing in the world. You could outplay a
team for the entire game, and all of a sudden,
if they're better, Yeah, on penalty kicks, it's over. I'm
with you on that. I mean, people tend to forget
like that idea came about to be able to end
games faster than the course usually. What would they get
to that period of the season for player's safety. Yeah,
because because they want to want to determine who the
true winner is a better team, but to they want
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to make sure they're not wearing guys out too long
either by playing you know, the longest game in the
history of the world in the playoffs. Yeah, what else
we got, guys? In case you missed this, the fan
who cut Aaron Judge's sixty second home run ball cost
himself a bunch. You know. He was offered that three
million dollars by by the the a L champion of
home run record one. Yeah, that's that's right, that record.
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Um well, he decided to put it on for an
online auction instead, So instead of that three million dollars,
he only got one point five on the auction. That sucks.
And then what's he gonna get out like what we
do get like seven fifty grand after taxes? How does
that work? Ready? Here the account and how does that
work as far as what he's gonna get after tax um?
Let's see you want car? Who cares? Yeah? Can your hand?
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The whole baseball things well done. That's how it's done.
I have three million dollars turns into one point five
believe we got anything else? We did have a parley, uh,
a five leg parley that paid out thanks to that
Raiders Patriots game guy made uh turn thirty one dollars
into two point eight million. Hey, it's good for that guy.
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