December 22, 2022 • 40 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar continues to manifest on a holiday weekend and the guys preview Thursday Night Football between the Jaguars and Jets. Ryan Tannehill is done for the season as the Titans continue to race for the playoffs and a final update on Antonio Brown standoff watch.
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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up on this Thursday edition, Week sixteen is here. We're
gonna look ahead did Jags Jets on Thursday night. We'll
get into some of the storylines at quarterback for those
two teams. We've also got some other NFL news and
notes to get to. It was a wild day in
the world of college football. What it means as we
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the way, this is twice this week that LaVar Arrington
has mentioned something on the show and you've spoken into
existence somehow. So the first thing, this is good news.
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This one is good You explain it, yeah, you take
it away. I was just telling. Did I say it
on air? Yesterday? I was like, man, like my my
my shoes didn't come in. I wanted my grint shoes
so that I could wear my grint shoes before was Christmas.
Because if you get grint shoes after Christmas, then what's
the reason for wearing it? Just right? So I came
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home yesterday and Pam right there, how about that? Huh?
I got my feed on today. They're cats move nice,
they are nice. I like them. I'll grinched up. So
there you go. Yeah, I'll start talking about things lesser impact.
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Then I did my shoes so I'm gonna just stick
to shoes, you know, yeah, shoes, clothes, hats, you know,
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we are fired up here. Three hour extravaganza here on
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fs ARE And guess what we got? We got Week
sixteen in the NFL kicking off later on tonight. Huh
how about little little Jags Jets on Thursday night? We got?
We got the Jets right now, sitting in about a
two point favorite, two and a half point favorite. We've
got the Battle of the two thousand twenty one draft
class number one, number two. We've got Trevor Lawrence ver
Zach Wilson. How we feeling about this game there, Brady Quinn,
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your former team, the New York Jets. Look at it.
Bounce back with the guy who no mom is safe around?
Zack Wilson. How bad is he still focused on? That?
Is he? He did get his offensive lineman a nice
little gift. Do you see that they got him like
some scooters or some crap like that. I don't even
know what it is. What is completion rate is on
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on that? You know? Percentage if you do you want
a scooter if you're a three inner pound I might
have misrepresented it, which would be the first time in
the history of my career. But I feel like they
look like scooters, but they might have been more like
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maybe a TV ish. I don't know, you gotta look
it up. I'm not I don't really like the vehicle.
I'm just you know, I'm not really on it when
it comes to vehicles and try stuff. I feel like
there's a pretty big difference between eight c V and
a scooter's literally an all trained vehicle, one you can't
even drive on gravel. Well, it looked a little bit
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of both. I don't know, I don't I don't know
what it was. Point being though, it was a nice
gesture from him, so he got all those offensive lineman something.
So it feels like he's starting to win back their
hearts here, which could which could play well coming up
later on tonight as they're looking to keep their playoff
hopes alive against the surging Jacksonville Jaguars. Definitely don't be
above bribery, man. You know that's true. That's true. We
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learned that yesterday. A little let's let's let's dive into
the look, I think the Jets are the better team.
Their defense has been pretty solid all year long. I
mean DJ every wants to talk about Sauce Gardner, who
made the Pro Boy yesterday, but DJ Read has played
just as well. On the other side. He's been really
good for them. Uh, They're tough upfront against the run.
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They can get after a posy quarterbacks. Man, this will
be a big challenge I think for the Jaguars um
and and Look, if you go back to Jets, they
they've struggled to run lately, but I think they are
capable of it. And it really comes down to, you know,
those two things. If they can play good defense, run
the football, and they don't put too much on Zach
Wilson's shoulders, they'll be able to win that game. I Mean,
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the Jags are like twenty nine in the league against
the past. The overall defense, it's not like they're that,
you know, that tough defensively. So between the Lions last
week the Jags this week, this is the softest part
of your schedule before you finish, you know, back to
back weeks on the road for the Jets, So I
would imagine that's part of it. I kind of come
back through a lot of Zach Wilson's throws yesterday and
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and one of the things you notice is kind of
the same issues he was having earlier in the season.
I think what becomes really apparent, though, is they are
trying their best to simplify things for him. I mean
it it is either a deep play action shot where
he's basically looking at one guy, you know the c
j Usama play for example, great play designed by the staff.
Uh you know ball was actually under thrown, almost got
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tipped away or picked off, but um, you know you
saw me made a good you know, catch and run afterwards.
But they're basically trying to isolate Garrett Wilson. And if
they do that, they're gonna win a lot of football
games because that kids special. So you know, if they
can get away with just running the football, playing good defense,
you know, putting Gary Wilson on the back side of
a three by one set, or finding a way of
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of running some interference to allow them to kind of
run across the field in different formations, they will they
will be able to win a lot of football games.
Um in particular against the team like the Jaguars, who
is as good as Trevor Lawrence has looked, which don't
be mistaken if if these guys are miles apart when
you say where one was taken where the other one
was taken. But to me, that's not gonna be enough
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with where the Jaguars team is as compared to the
New York Jets tonight. Uh. You know, when I look
at this this matchup, I say to myself, those things
that that you stated about the Jets are are definitely
you know, accurate to to my you know, to my
interpretation of it. For the Jaguars, I felt like last
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week was one of those weeks where it's like a
don't give up, don't quit, never say I never, never say,
you know, surrender. And that was a game they won
that they probably believed they could win, but in the
moment probably didn't know if they would win. So they
end up getting the victory. It seemingly would be a
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very very strong confidence booster for the Jags. This game
is a get right game. This is one of those
were familiar with with the Jets. There there's the idea
of they were up against each other basically for what
was going to eventually be a pick for for the Jaguars,
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and obviously Trevor Lawrence was that guy. Now we could
say that this is definitely motivation for Zach Wilson because
of Trevor Lawrence. But I tend to think that this
is a get right game for Jacksonville because because Trevor
Lawrence is so far ahead and trending in seemingly a
different direction than Zack Wilson. Because this Jaguars team seems
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to be trending in a different direction than the New
York Jets. Even though the Jets, you know, are still competitive,
They're they're still you know, able to make the playoffs.
I look at the Jacksonville Jaguars and I say, your
defense isn't the best of defenses, But can you do
what you did against the Cowboys? Can you can you
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make a big play when when Jacksonville needs a big play?
Can you keep the Jets from making big plays so
that your offense, can you know, give you what you
need to win the game. I think this is gonna
be a tall teler to tape for for both the
rest of the seasons for for these teams. But I
look at Jacksonville and I say, this is a get
right game for jackson Ville. So if if you if
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we're going to continue to have the conversations about how
good Trevor Lawrence is and and the direction that this
Jacksonville Jaguars team is trending in, they need to have
a good showing against against New York. How many primetime
games as Trevor Lawrence had, like like maybe one? Right? Yeah, yeah,
I don't think he's really been featured on prime time.
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It just it is interesting though, And this thought to
show you the difference between, you know, how Trevor Lawrence
has been handled and how maybe Zach Wilson has been handled.
I don't know if this is an indictment on Robert Salo,
but if tonight, if Trevor Lawrence goes out and struggles tonight,
it's like okay, but you know, hey, we're building. It's
gonna take some time. Zach Wilson goes out and struggles tonight,
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he's gonna get buried alive for ten days, for a week,
He's going to get destroyed here. I also think the
differences you look at the stretch of games for Trevor Lawrence,
like last six games, fourteen touchdowns, one interception, He's been
lights out. He's been phenomenal. He's been making throws in
plays that make you go okay. That's why he was
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taken where he was taken, which you know, unless you know,
unless you were a fan of him at Clemson, you know,
a lot of Jacksonville Jaguars fans probably weren't. They really
didn't get to see a lot of that were Like
when he burst on the scene as a freshman, you
kind of understood, like, this kid's special. Like I remember
seeing him in high school throw and I'm like, my goodness,
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you know, he looked like quarterback Jesus. You know, he
was just the way you throw the football and sling
the football through these different drills and those Gatorade commercials
right dropped backs, not even that. Just again, like I
was at I was with them at an under arm camp,
and I was just like, this kid is special. Like
you didn't there's no one else out there. Mac Jones
was there. If you of the guys now too, who
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were you know up around this age, There's no one
who looked like him. He was by far and away
the most talented kid at that camp. And you knew
when he got to the Clempson if he got a shot,
he was gonna be special. You know, he was sitting there,
he was like, man, there's no one here that looks
like Brady Quinn, right except me? But me? But um
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it is. Yeah, so it's gonna be fun tonight though.
See and and I've actually this is the first time
you were to say, a couple of years ago Diaguars
Jets in primetime, I'd be like, kiss my ass al right,
like I got some shopping to do, I'm not really interested.
But this feels like but this, this does feel like
there's there's a little bit more juice on the line.
And then you know, we'll get into the situation going
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on elsewhere in the division for Jacksonville. But uh, I
hope it's still alive. What's that? What's the weather look like? Um?
Let me just the efforting here, let's go. Let me
ask you this, right, Is there some part of you
that feels like this is a how do I put
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this elimination game for both these stamps? Yes, yep, an
elimination am and maybe a career elimination game. Say that
I meant for the teams in the playoffs. But it
just feels like, by the way, we do have a
confirmation motor what are they called motor bikes? For the
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offensive lineman from Zach Wilson, like Mike crazyler, don't this
look like them before? They look like them? Little uh
there there? You actually can drive those on the road.
You can actually get a license plate for those scooters.
They got like fat front tires. Oh, those are those
are like electric bikes there, they're like you can sit
down on them and then they go they go down,
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so nowhere close to uh today TV. Basically, no, it's
not it's not really a scooter either. They're more likely
like an electric electric bike. They're closer to that. By
the way, in Florida. Wouldn't be a shocker if you
saw somebody driving one of these on the highway on
the highway, if you say no, because you can pretty
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much throw out any scenario, I say, yeah, that would
be surprising every time I emerged like well kids, look
out the widows or some buggy. Yeah, there's all sorts
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Yeahs are phenomenal, by the way. Yeah, they look gone, well,
they looked good. Yeah, they're thinking pretty good. They're gone.
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You know, you get some tamalis. I'm not trying to
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the spread. That's the point here. So later on the show,
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am I doing? Am I doing good? And spread them?
Spread them wide? Yes, you're doing very good? Am I
in the league? Yeah, he's spread them? Yeah. I will
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speaking of quitting, Uh, it might be a rap. It
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listening on the zone in Nashville and they're probably thinking
of themselves, well, at least we're gonna go to the playoffs.
You know, got the division and control the culture disaster
the Houston Texans or a diaper fire. It's Jacksonville. We
don't need to worry about him. And then all of
a sudden it comes out that Ryan tannehill season is
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most likely over. That's gonna go ahead and do it.
He suffered it a reaggravation or I don't know if
it's a new injury to the ankle injury that he
suffered earlier this season, but it happened this past week
against the Chargers, and it looks like it's gonna be
Malik Willis the rest of the way, and Malik Wills
hasn't looked all that hot. So now the once for
certain playoff chances in playoff hopes, so the Tennessee's Titans
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get a little bit dicey with Jacksonville just a game
out and then having to finish up the season the
way they are. This feels like it's gone completely south
of the Tennessee Titans, and it just makes you wonder
what is Tannehill's future in in Nashville. They're based on
how he's looked this season. I mean, look, statistically speaking,
has hasn't looked that bad in his twelve starts. It's
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just you knew they were gonna go through some growing
pains once they moved on from A. J. Brown. I mean,
even if Treylon Burkes could come in and have an impact,
it was gonna be hard for him to replace the
big shoes that were left behind um Derrick Henry. Early
in the season, you know, it was was was playing well.
I mean not that he's even playing bad now, it's
just it's hard to have the same type of impact
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he's had over the years with the same amount of
wear and tear. I mean, he's he's almost had three
rushing attempts and we still have three more games. And
by the way, with Malik Willis starting, he might have
another hundred rushing attempts in the next three games. So
I just kind of look at their season as a
whole um and it feels like it's always Derrick Henry
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carrying them, and Tannehill is a compliment to all of that.
And then once they get into the playoffs, it's like, well,
how far can Derrick Henry carry them? And at some
point you've got to have a quarterback step in and
be able to take over some games. And that's where
now they're get a shot to look at Bleak Willis.
You know, he's he's looked like a project um to
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begin to you know, the start of the season. Since
then he kind of felt like and we knew he
was raw coming into it and he needed some more
time to develop into position. Now he gets to potentially
finish out the rest of the season and they can
build an offense that's really you know, tailored around his
skill set and what he's capable of doing. So I
like this for them long term to look at Milik Willis.
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I like this for Malik to be able to have
a shot to start and in some meaningful games and
maybe lead them into the playoffs. But they're gonna have
to lean heavily now, so more than ever on Derrick
Henry and probably even Malik Willis as part of that
rushing attack. Uh, they're one to mention. I mean, I
think that that's your your your spot on in terms
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of if you stop Henry, if you stopped Derrick Henry,
you're basically stalling out this This entire Titans team like
it goes through King Henry. And Uh, it makes me
think about what if they did have a legitimate quarterback
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you know, on the team, Like, yeah, I got I
guess I'm to the point now saying that where you're
looking at Tannehill and and it's like, man, there, it's
in spite of and if they had a quarterback that
really could contribute in a much more positive manner. If
they do find that in Malik Willis, they're probably going
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to save some some years or some time off of
Derrick Henry's career because he is definitely taking the brunt
and the blows of if this team is winning or not,
so that they're they're way too one to mention if
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if they can't, if they can't figure out a way
to to get Malik uh get get Willis going, then
you gotta ask yourself the question, what what is next
for Tennessee as a whole? Is this a is this
a team that almost has hit its peak like what
we saw with the Texans? Like is is this one
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of those type teams where did they hit their ceiling?
And and I wouldn't be beyond saying that, it's almost
like you you gotta start reevaluating if this is a
rebuild in Tennessee. And it's kind of to that. To me,
it is to that that that capacity or to that magnitude.
If if Malik Willis doesn't show to be the quarterback
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that they can eventually, you know, transition to because Tannehill,
i mean, the book is out. We we know he's
not the quarterback that can take them to the next level. Well,
you know what the ceiling is because they got to
that a f championship game. But as Brady's pointed out,
I mean it's not like Tannehill was, you know, slicing
and dicing teams to get there. I mean, I think
Derrick Henry was throwing touchdown passes. That was They did
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send Tom Brady home in his final game as a Patriot.
So there's that they can hold their hats on. And
they were in that game in the a f C
title game. It was against uh who is that against
the Houston Yeah. He was up big on Kansas City
too in one playoff game also, um and and so
it just it feels like lost, right, Yeah, they lost.
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See I mean they might have won the Super Bowl. Yeah,
Patrick mahomes in Kansas City. They don't lose in the
divisional round. All they do is conference championships. Just like
you can just go ahead and skip past the first round.
They're gonna get to a conference title game and then
they're gonna either win that game or and go to
a super Bowl, or they're lose it. But they'll never
lose in that early round. But it just it does
feel like we kind of know what Tennessee is and
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and it looked like this during the course of the season.
I just don't think anybody thought that there was really
going to be a threat outside of maybe Indianapolis. And
yet here's Jacksonville. So let's just play the game who's
going to win this division? And we can go team
by a team, and you tell me whose schedule you
feel better about. All right, So the Tennessee Titans schedule
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is home against the Texans, home against the Cowboys, and
then at Jacksonville. And then the Jacksonville Jaguar schedule is
tonight at the Jets, at the Texans, and then home
against the Titans. I say that jackson had I mean
I say they both had the same same type of schedule.
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They're both they're both of them have winnable schedules. Yeah,
And but I would say I would lean more towards
where Jacksonville is right now, say Jacksonsville has the better
shotto of running it out, because right now, the betting
markets say that Jacksonville's favor to win the division. Well,
I mean, let's put it this way, even with Tannehill
there on a four game losing streak. Yeah, so that's
not good. No, it's not good. It's like, like, forget
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Tannehill for a second. It's not like he was playing bad.
I mean, you look at Jacksonville. They've won three of
their last four um and so there are two teams
that are it seems like they're going in different directions.
I just feel like tonight's game short week, this late
in the season, it's it's way tougher than people think.
And their defense, you know, they've been playing better since
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the buy. I wouldn't say great, and I just I
feel like this is one of those games where and
I think it's why Robert Sala brought back Zach Wilson
at this point. You know, there's obviously the Mike White injury.
But if if if let's say, was Zack Wilson struggles
tonight and then Mike White just gets in sort of
the last two weeks, it's like, well they gave him
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a shot then versus two of arguably the worst, you know,
defenses in the League, So that was it. I mean,
it kind of feels like it has that feeling about it.
Maybe not, maybe I'm wrong, and Robert Sala literally just
doesn't feel like you can put Mike White in that position.
It's hard. Well, we we haven't. We don't have any
more additional information, which which that's part of the something
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with teams is And I went through this before with
the team where I thought I was cleared. I got
cleared by my neurologist, you know, after dealing with the concussion.
I got cleared by an independent neurologist. I was practicing,
and I'm like, why am I not active? Like what
what is? What is the situation here? And then literally
they wouldn't clear me until the day of the game,
(25:24):
like our third game removed from the concussion, and I
remember thinking to myself, like, I don't get it. You
literally had I practice all we get nothing different than
what I would have done normally. So it's just it
was It's very odd, but teams obviously have their own
prerogative and why they do what they do. Yeah, so
we'll we'll get to see how this transpires. I mean,
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if you do like and you do like the Jets
later tonight. Correct, I do. Actually I got the more
like one one and a half points, but yeah, I'd
still let this to one appl right, so that I mean,
this feels like we've got a correlation here, a correlated
parlay some would call it to where if you like
the Jets, you can get tight is to win the
division at plus money right now and as and if
this is really a quote unquote to facto elimination game
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for the Jags plus money on the Titans, there's some
value there, Brady Quinn, little stock and stuffer for a
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your ears and shut your damn mouths. It's Edmund Garcia.
All right, thank you. Jonas will start with news from
the NFL. You guys been talking about a Thursday night
football tonight in New York. The Jets hosting the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Jacks quarterback Trevor Lawrence officially listened to a questionable with
the two injury Buddy's expected to start. As for New York,
they're gonna go with the Zack Wilson at quarterback with
Mike White still recovering from fractured ribs. More quarterback injury news.
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Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, and Titans
quarterback Ryan Tannhill all miss practice on Wednesday. Tannehill reportedly
done for the rest of the season with an ankle injury.
NBA games of note, top two teams in the league
both go down on the same night. The Bucks fall
to the Cavaliers in Cleveland one fourteen to one oh six,
despite Jansen the COOPO going for forty five points in
fourteen Rebas Donovan Mitchell thirty six points and the win
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for Cleveland and Jason Tatum at forty one points for Boston,
but the Celtics lose at home to the Pacers won
seventeen to one twelve nets over the Warriors one forty three,
one thirteen. Golden state that if any champs fall to
three and sixteen on the road this season. Top twenty
College basketball eleven ranked teams in action, five in the
top ten wins for number one per Due, third ranked Houston,
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number seven Texas, eight, Rank Tennessee and Ember ten Arkartsaw.
There were a couple of upsets at the bottom end
of the Top twenty five number twenty one Virginia Tech
losing to Boston College five and number twenty five Bears
on the State falling in San Francisco ninety seven to sixty.
College football at New Orleans Bowl it was Western Kentucky
over South Alabama forty four to twenty three. Now back
to Brady QUINNAMR. Arrington and Jonas Knoxons High Rack dot Com,
(27:52):
Fox Sports Radio Studio, Thanks Eddie two pros Nick up
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. What was the I
wonder what the attendance was at that bowl game last night.
Look like a lot of people dressed up as empty
seats to shame man out there just trying to battle
South Alabama. They were down like fourteen nothing before you
could even blink, and then uh, and they really didn't
(28:15):
get much better. They played better the second half. Alright,
I blinked, and then it was time to come to work. Alright,
So do you have any South Alabama fans? Do we
have any game show music here that we can play?
Let's let's play. I have the numbers. This is what
they're they're claiming is the number of I think tickets sold?
Is how this works at the super Dome there in
(28:37):
New Orleans. All right, so, olavar Areaton, you go first.
How many people do you think are we being reported
as being at that game the New Orleans Bowl last
night between South Alabama and Western Kentucky. And by the way,
capacity at the dome there is seventy three thousands. How
many people do you think showed up for that Western
(28:57):
Kentucky South Alabama? Let's say eight thousand eight? Jesus, really,
do you think that they're gonna say ticket sales were
somewhere in north of thousand? The correct answer is thousand,
(29:18):
four hundred and fifty sicks, LaVar Arrington, you were close
coations thousand, four hundred fifty six. I mean, yeah, by
the way, it can look how big that that dome is.
But why you why are you trashing the board? I'm
not listen, I'm not trashing the ball game. It was
just I saw him kicking extra point. I'm like to it, nobody,
(29:40):
nobody who's there to catch the ball? Yeah, come on.
The end zones are the last thing they fill up.
So you like, if you have a poor attended game,
and I know this because just once one, it's gonna
be the sidelines, right. They want to create kind of
like that cut off. So you're gonna have that one
fan base on one side where your benches, and then
the other fan base on the other side of where
they're benches and the end zones. If there's extra capacity,
(30:03):
like they'll sell those tickets, but typically they're not selling those,
like especially for some of these these lower level bowl games. Yeah. Well, hey,
listen to congratulations to Western Kentucky the Hilltoppers getting it
done there. Three final there at the New Orleans Bowls. So,
I mean, there weren't that many people there, but you
know what one final bowl game for a lot of
those guys. No reports on what the swag bag was
(30:25):
with the New Orleans Bowl. What do you think the
swag bag would be? Like some bunch of gumbo Virgin
Virgin Uh? Did those exist in Hurricanes? Her Virgin Hurricanes
I mean they probably have the real thing. And Patty O'Brien's,
I mean maybe some of them but not yes, just
maybe pouches in their bags. Is Patty O'Brien's fun. That's
(30:49):
like the place to go in New Orleans, right, cool
spot spot I've never never been. Yeah, Oh you gotta go.
That's That's one of these spots you gotta stop by.
And I feel like walking on Bourbon Street as overrated.
I just do. Like I got there and it's like,
Pam there it is. I got a hotel right off
of Bourbon Street and got on Bourbon Street and it
(31:11):
is like it stinks, um. People people bump into you.
They're they're kind of rude unless you have beats, your loser, um.
And And maybe that was like old school, I don't know,
but it was like, all right, I don't have any beats.
And then I'm seeing other dudes. You know, they weren't
equally as Hanselman as attractive as I am, but a
(31:33):
dead bodies flow by I did. I did see dead bodies.
I mean they might have not have been deceased deceats,
but they were certainly dead to the world at that
moment in time. That that I saw them. Yeah, a
few bodies. Now, why would you bring that up? Shut us? Well,
I'm glad you asked. Uh. Brian Williams, the former news
anchor for I Believe NBC, claimed that while he was
(31:54):
at his hotel there, he saw a dead body float
across when they had some overflow for Hurricane Katrine, A
saw a dead body. And as they did a little
bit of research, that was a lie, just a complete lie.
He just lying about seeing a corpse. How did they
thought that he was lying? Because he admitted dude later, Yeah, well,
(32:15):
I you know, I might have not seen oh yeah,
but he's got it. He had a little bit of
a track record of that. And if somebody who's always
told the truth on the air, that really doesn't sit
right with me, tell you that right now. Interesting, some
have actually called you, the Brian Williams of Sports Talk
radio about Christopher all sorts of wild allegations. I was
(32:37):
called something. Apparently Jonas brought the attention because he I mean,
you know, you know LaVar, you know Jonas Jonas will
sort through every comment anything that anyone. He's got the
biggest rabbit here. This is not true. This is why
Jonas trssed de flect to say, not true, because it's
very true. He hates admitting it on Live Rady admit anything.
(32:58):
Because I said the NBA's bo ring and that it
is good to fall asleep to on Christmas Day after
all the excitement of seeing what Santa brought and presence
and a nice meal in the afternoon, that it's nice
to then fall asleep to an NBA game. And apparently
some people took that the wrong way, Whereas, look, I
haven't really been a fan. I love the game of basketball.
(33:20):
It's the best thing to play, I think, for getting
shape and all that. It's fun. It's relatively easy, right
since to go out and play. Um, I just I'm sorry, man,
the NBA is not the same. It really isn't. I
have a hard time watching the NBA these days until
it gets in the playoffs. It's just it's a I'll
admit that. I think there's a lot of people who
probably fall into that category. So can we get the
(33:40):
game show music back before we get to break LaVar?
What do you think the claim was upon somebody hearing
that insult about the NBA from Brady Quinn? What do
you think? What name do you think Brady Quinn was
called or what accusation was made of Brady that he
dare be critical of the NBA and today's NBA. What
would you get us you had too? Uh? Man? Uh?
(34:05):
Can I give you a hint? Yes, we have a
drop on the show about it. Drop on the show
about it, you know, Burt So just imagine Brady Quinn,
just Brady Quinn being critical of the NBA. Somebody reached
out and said, he's low key blank for that statement.
(34:29):
Low key blank. I'm just trying to get it in man,
that's not that's low key blank. One word I'm touching
it right now. Starts with an R. No, don't worry,
don't know how it starts with an R. Low key
what tell me? Starts with the R? Just throw any
(34:51):
I don't know. Showice, there's such a good job, Tea. Yeah,
you should be to get this racist if you had
racist at home? That is correct. God forbid, God forbid
anybody be be critical of today's NBA because you're going
and let me just take this, let me just take
this a step further. Okay, let me just take this
a step further. I also like to knap to golf
(35:13):
on Sunday's okay, usually to the voice of Jim Nance
as he whispers on the eighteenth green. So apparently that's
also racist to uh to feel that way about the tour.
Absolutely it is. Yeah, let me just take a step further.
There's nothing better to that to on a Sunday as
far as the sporting of that than Jim Nance's voice
(35:35):
whispering you to sleep as you're watching golf. That's racist,
But that also is probably considered racist by that jackass.
It's Sports Radio to the air, alright, So we do
have an update on his story. We've been tracking here
on the show, and we'll have it for you right
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just waited him out. He waited him out. Man. That
guys like talking about setting the precedent. That guy just
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(38:26):
in Florida at the time, and there he was just
hanging out and didn't build a tunnel, didn't have to
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over all, right. I mean maybe he did have a
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the tunnel for future. It's a great point. So Chopo did, man,
(38:48):
So he got away, by the way, what about the
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him six million dollars in his contract. He was just
getting twenty two this year, would have gotten twenty eight
if he got selecked to the Pro Bowl. Damn. So
like thinking, by the way, though, if he's in the NFC,
is he selected, it's it's such. That's the thing that
(39:33):
I hate about the Pro Bowl is he's had a
Pro Bowl season. It's just unfortunately plays in the conference
with Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow justin Herbie Like,
it's just lamarj accident. When he's healthy, you know, it's like,
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you get them joints. Yeah, it was quality. Um. By
the way, this is twice this week that LaVar Arrington
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existence somehow. So the first thing, this is good news.
(02:34):
This one is good You explain it, yeah, you take
it away. I was just telling. Did I say it
on air? Yesterday? I was like, man, like my my
my shoes didn't come in. I wanted my grint shoes
so that I could wear my grint shoes before was Christmas.
Because if you get grint shoes after Christmas, then what's
the reason for wearing it? Just right? So I came
(02:56):
home yesterday and Pam right there, how about that? Huh?
I got my feed on today. They're cats move nice,
they are nice. I like them. I'll grinched up. So
there you go. Yeah, I'll start talking about things lesser impact.
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You want to know what's crazy? Three days in a row,
I did it. I did Willie Mack, then I did Franco,
Then I did my shoes so I'm gonna just stick
to shoes, you know, yeah, shoes, clothes, hats, you know,
not impacting people as much. Right, Yeah, that's good. Well,
hey listen, uh, you look great, Tamalis look good and
we are fired up here. Three hour extravaganza here on
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fs ARE And guess what we got? We got Week
sixteen in the NFL kicking off later on tonight. Huh
how about little little Jags Jets on Thursday night? We got?
We got the Jets right now, sitting in about a
two point favorite, two and a half point favorite. We've
got the Battle of the two thousand twenty one draft
class number one, number two. We've got Trevor Lawrence ver
Zach Wilson. How we feeling about this game there, Brady Quinn,
(04:05):
your former team, the New York Jets. Look at it.
Bounce back with the guy who no mom is safe around?
Zack Wilson. How bad is he still focused on? That?
Is he? He did get his offensive lineman a nice
little gift. Do you see that they got him like
some scooters or some crap like that. I don't even
know what it is. What is completion rate is on
(04:26):
on that? You know? Percentage if you do you want
a scooter if you're a three inner pound I might
have misrepresented it, which would be the first time in
the history of my career. But I feel like they
look like scooters, but they might have been more like
(04:47):
maybe a TV ish. I don't know, you gotta look
it up. I'm not I don't really like the vehicle.
I'm just you know, I'm not really on it when
it comes to vehicles and try stuff. I feel like
there's a pretty big difference between eight c V and
a scooter's literally an all trained vehicle, one you can't
even drive on gravel. Well, it looked a little bit
(05:09):
of both. I don't know, I don't I don't know
what it was. Point being though, it was a nice
gesture from him, so he got all those offensive lineman something.
So it feels like he's starting to win back their
hearts here, which could which could play well coming up
later on tonight as they're looking to keep their playoff
hopes alive against the surging Jacksonville Jaguars. Definitely don't be
above bribery, man. You know that's true. That's true. We
(05:32):
learned that yesterday. A little let's let's let's dive into
the look, I think the Jets are the better team.
Their defense has been pretty solid all year long. I
mean DJ every wants to talk about Sauce Gardner, who
made the Pro Boy yesterday, but DJ Read has played
just as well. On the other side. He's been really
good for them. Uh, They're tough upfront against the run.
(05:55):
They can get after a posy quarterbacks. Man, this will
be a big challenge I think for the Jaguars um
and and Look, if you go back to Jets, they
they've struggled to run lately, but I think they are
capable of it. And it really comes down to, you know,
those two things. If they can play good defense, run
the football, and they don't put too much on Zach
Wilson's shoulders, they'll be able to win that game. I Mean,
(06:17):
the Jags are like twenty nine in the league against
the past. The overall defense, it's not like they're that,
you know, that tough defensively. So between the Lions last
week the Jags this week, this is the softest part
of your schedule before you finish, you know, back to
back weeks on the road for the Jets, So I
would imagine that's part of it. I kind of come
back through a lot of Zach Wilson's throws yesterday and
(06:39):
and one of the things you notice is kind of
the same issues he was having earlier in the season.
I think what becomes really apparent, though, is they are
trying their best to simplify things for him. I mean
it it is either a deep play action shot where
he's basically looking at one guy, you know the c
j Usama play for example, great play designed by the staff.
Uh you know ball was actually under thrown, almost got
(07:02):
tipped away or picked off, but um, you know you
saw me made a good you know, catch and run afterwards.
But they're basically trying to isolate Garrett Wilson. And if
they do that, they're gonna win a lot of football
games because that kids special. So you know, if they
can get away with just running the football, playing good defense,
you know, putting Gary Wilson on the back side of
a three by one set, or finding a way of
(07:22):
of running some interference to allow them to kind of
run across the field in different formations, they will they
will be able to win a lot of football games.
Um in particular against the team like the Jaguars, who
is as good as Trevor Lawrence has looked, which don't
be mistaken if if these guys are miles apart when
you say where one was taken where the other one
was taken. But to me, that's not gonna be enough
(07:43):
with where the Jaguars team is as compared to the
New York Jets tonight. Uh. You know, when I look
at this this matchup, I say to myself, those things
that that you stated about the Jets are are definitely
you know, accurate to to my you know, to my
interpretation of it. For the Jaguars, I felt like last
(08:06):
week was one of those weeks where it's like a
don't give up, don't quit, never say I never, never say,
you know, surrender. And that was a game they won
that they probably believed they could win, but in the
moment probably didn't know if they would win. So they
end up getting the victory. It seemingly would be a
(08:30):
very very strong confidence booster for the Jags. This game
is a get right game. This is one of those
were familiar with with the Jets. There there's the idea
of they were up against each other basically for what
was going to eventually be a pick for for the Jaguars,
(08:53):
and obviously Trevor Lawrence was that guy. Now we could
say that this is definitely motivation for Zach Wilson because
of Trevor Lawrence. But I tend to think that this
is a get right game for Jacksonville because because Trevor
Lawrence is so far ahead and trending in seemingly a
different direction than Zack Wilson. Because this Jaguars team seems
(09:17):
to be trending in a different direction than the New
York Jets. Even though the Jets, you know, are still competitive,
They're they're still you know, able to make the playoffs.
I look at the Jacksonville Jaguars and I say, your
defense isn't the best of defenses, But can you do
what you did against the Cowboys? Can you can you
(09:39):
make a big play when when Jacksonville needs a big play?
Can you keep the Jets from making big plays so
that your offense, can you know, give you what you
need to win the game. I think this is gonna
be a tall teler to tape for for both the
rest of the seasons for for these teams. But I
look at Jacksonville and I say, this is a get
right game for jackson Ville. So if if you if
(10:01):
we're going to continue to have the conversations about how
good Trevor Lawrence is and and the direction that this
Jacksonville Jaguars team is trending in, they need to have
a good showing against against New York. How many primetime
games as Trevor Lawrence had, like like maybe one? Right? Yeah, yeah,
I don't think he's really been featured on prime time.
(10:21):
It just it is interesting though, And this thought to
show you the difference between, you know, how Trevor Lawrence
has been handled and how maybe Zach Wilson has been handled.
I don't know if this is an indictment on Robert Salo,
but if tonight, if Trevor Lawrence goes out and struggles tonight,
it's like okay, but you know, hey, we're building. It's
gonna take some time. Zach Wilson goes out and struggles tonight,
(10:43):
he's gonna get buried alive for ten days, for a week,
He's going to get destroyed here. I also think the
differences you look at the stretch of games for Trevor Lawrence,
like last six games, fourteen touchdowns, one interception, He's been
lights out. He's been phenomenal. He's been making throws in
plays that make you go okay. That's why he was
(11:04):
taken where he was taken, which you know, unless you know,
unless you were a fan of him at Clemson, you know,
a lot of Jacksonville Jaguars fans probably weren't. They really
didn't get to see a lot of that were Like
when he burst on the scene as a freshman, you
kind of understood, like, this kid's special. Like I remember
seeing him in high school throw and I'm like, my goodness,
(11:26):
you know, he looked like quarterback Jesus. You know, he
was just the way you throw the football and sling
the football through these different drills and those Gatorade commercials
right dropped backs, not even that. Just again, like I
was at I was with them at an under arm camp,
and I was just like, this kid is special. Like
you didn't there's no one else out there. Mac Jones
was there. If you of the guys now too, who
(11:47):
were you know up around this age, There's no one
who looked like him. He was by far and away
the most talented kid at that camp. And you knew
when he got to the Clempson if he got a shot,
he was gonna be special. You know, he was sitting there,
he was like, man, there's no one here that looks
like Brady Quinn, right except me? But me? But um
(12:12):
it is. Yeah, so it's gonna be fun tonight though.
See and and I've actually this is the first time
you were to say, a couple of years ago Diaguars
Jets in primetime, I'd be like, kiss my ass al right,
like I got some shopping to do, I'm not really interested.
But this feels like but this, this does feel like
there's there's a little bit more juice on the line.
And then you know, we'll get into the situation going
(12:32):
on elsewhere in the division for Jacksonville. But uh, I
hope it's still alive. What's that? What's the weather look like? Um?
Let me just the efforting here, let's go. Let me
ask you this, right, Is there some part of you
that feels like this is a how do I put
(12:54):
this elimination game for both these stamps? Yes, yep, an
elimination am and maybe a career elimination game. Say that
I meant for the teams in the playoffs. But it
just feels like, by the way, we do have a
confirmation motor what are they called motor bikes? For the
(13:14):
offensive lineman from Zach Wilson, like Mike crazyler, don't this
look like them before? They look like them? Little uh
there there? You actually can drive those on the road.
You can actually get a license plate for those scooters.
They got like fat front tires. Oh, those are those
are like electric bikes there, they're like you can sit
down on them and then they go they go down,
(13:37):
so nowhere close to uh today TV. Basically, no, it's
not it's not really a scooter either. They're more likely
like an electric electric bike. They're closer to that. By
the way, in Florida. Wouldn't be a shocker if you
saw somebody driving one of these on the highway on
the highway, if you say no, because you can pretty
(13:58):
much throw out any scenario, I say, yeah, that would
be surprising every time I emerged like well kids, look
out the widows or some buggy. Yeah, there's all sorts
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course we're gonna have some over unders and we've got
in case you missed it, but since we're not gonna
be here coming up tomorrow the entire show on Friday.
Yeahs are phenomenal, by the way. Yeah, they look gone, well,
they looked good. Yeah, they're thinking pretty good. They're gone.
(15:03):
You know why why those tamalis are good. They stay fresh.
You know, you get some tamalis. I'm not trying to
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the spread. That's the point here. So later on the show,
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we're gonna have spread spread. We're gonna spread them. How
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Spread them wide? Yes, you're doing very good? Am I
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let you know when we get that all because I
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home delivery, Big green egg dot com. So our friends
listening on the zone in Nashville and they're probably thinking
of themselves, well, at least we're gonna go to the playoffs.
You know, got the division and control the culture disaster
the Houston Texans or a diaper fire. It's Jacksonville. We
don't need to worry about him. And then all of
a sudden it comes out that Ryan tannehill season is
(17:33):
most likely over. That's gonna go ahead and do it.
He suffered it a reaggravation or I don't know if
it's a new injury to the ankle injury that he
suffered earlier this season, but it happened this past week
against the Chargers, and it looks like it's gonna be
Malik Willis the rest of the way, and Malik Wills
hasn't looked all that hot. So now the once for
certain playoff chances in playoff hopes, so the Tennessee's Titans
(17:56):
get a little bit dicey with Jacksonville just a game
out and then having to finish up the season the
way they are. This feels like it's gone completely south
of the Tennessee Titans, and it just makes you wonder
what is Tannehill's future in in Nashville. They're based on
how he's looked this season. I mean, look, statistically speaking,
has hasn't looked that bad in his twelve starts. It's
(18:18):
just you knew they were gonna go through some growing
pains once they moved on from A. J. Brown. I mean,
even if Treylon Burkes could come in and have an impact,
it was gonna be hard for him to replace the
big shoes that were left behind um Derrick Henry. Early
in the season, you know, it was was was playing well.
I mean not that he's even playing bad now, it's
just it's hard to have the same type of impact
(18:40):
he's had over the years with the same amount of
wear and tear. I mean, he's he's almost had three
rushing attempts and we still have three more games. And
by the way, with Malik Willis starting, he might have
another hundred rushing attempts in the next three games. So
I just kind of look at their season as a
whole um and it feels like it's always Derrick Henry
(19:00):
carrying them, and Tannehill is a compliment to all of that.
And then once they get into the playoffs, it's like, well,
how far can Derrick Henry carry them? And at some
point you've got to have a quarterback step in and
be able to take over some games. And that's where
now they're get a shot to look at Bleak Willis.
You know, he's he's looked like a project um to
(19:20):
begin to you know, the start of the season. Since
then he kind of felt like and we knew he
was raw coming into it and he needed some more
time to develop into position. Now he gets to potentially
finish out the rest of the season and they can
build an offense that's really you know, tailored around his
skill set and what he's capable of doing. So I
like this for them long term to look at Milik Willis.
(19:40):
I like this for Malik to be able to have
a shot to start and in some meaningful games and
maybe lead them into the playoffs. But they're gonna have
to lean heavily now, so more than ever on Derrick
Henry and probably even Malik Willis as part of that
rushing attack. Uh, they're one to mention. I mean, I
think that that's your your your spot on in terms
(20:01):
of if you stop Henry, if you stopped Derrick Henry,
you're basically stalling out this This entire Titans team like
it goes through King Henry. And Uh, it makes me
think about what if they did have a legitimate quarterback
(20:21):
you know, on the team, Like, yeah, I got I
guess I'm to the point now saying that where you're
looking at Tannehill and and it's like, man, there, it's
in spite of and if they had a quarterback that
really could contribute in a much more positive manner. If
they do find that in Malik Willis, they're probably going
(20:42):
to save some some years or some time off of
Derrick Henry's career because he is definitely taking the brunt
and the blows of if this team is winning or not,
so that they're they're way too one to mention if
(21:02):
if they can't, if they can't figure out a way
to to get Malik uh get get Willis going, then
you gotta ask yourself the question, what what is next
for Tennessee as a whole? Is this a is this
a team that almost has hit its peak like what
we saw with the Texans? Like is is this one
(21:25):
of those type teams where did they hit their ceiling?
And and I wouldn't be beyond saying that, it's almost
like you you gotta start reevaluating if this is a
rebuild in Tennessee. And it's kind of to that. To me,
it is to that that that capacity or to that magnitude.
If if Malik Willis doesn't show to be the quarterback
(21:47):
that they can eventually, you know, transition to because Tannehill,
i mean, the book is out. We we know he's
not the quarterback that can take them to the next level. Well,
you know what the ceiling is because they got to
that a f championship game. But as Brady's pointed out,
I mean it's not like Tannehill was, you know, slicing
and dicing teams to get there. I mean, I think
Derrick Henry was throwing touchdown passes. That was They did
(22:10):
send Tom Brady home in his final game as a Patriot.
So there's that they can hold their hats on. And
they were in that game in the a f C
title game. It was against uh who is that against
the Houston Yeah. He was up big on Kansas City
too in one playoff game also, um and and so
it just it feels like lost, right, Yeah, they lost.
(22:32):
See I mean they might have won the Super Bowl. Yeah,
Patrick mahomes in Kansas City. They don't lose in the
divisional round. All they do is conference championships. Just like
you can just go ahead and skip past the first round.
They're gonna get to a conference title game and then
they're gonna either win that game or and go to
a super Bowl, or they're lose it. But they'll never
lose in that early round. But it just it does
feel like we kind of know what Tennessee is and
(22:53):
and it looked like this during the course of the season.
I just don't think anybody thought that there was really
going to be a threat outside of maybe Indianapolis. And
yet here's Jacksonville. So let's just play the game who's
going to win this division? And we can go team
by a team, and you tell me whose schedule you
feel better about. All right, So the Tennessee Titans schedule
(23:14):
is home against the Texans, home against the Cowboys, and
then at Jacksonville. And then the Jacksonville Jaguar schedule is
tonight at the Jets, at the Texans, and then home
against the Titans. I say that jackson had I mean
I say they both had the same same type of schedule.
(23:36):
They're both they're both of them have winnable schedules. Yeah,
And but I would say I would lean more towards
where Jacksonville is right now, say Jacksonsville has the better
shotto of running it out, because right now, the betting
markets say that Jacksonville's favor to win the division. Well,
I mean, let's put it this way, even with Tannehill
there on a four game losing streak. Yeah, so that's
not good. No, it's not good. It's like, like, forget
(23:58):
Tannehill for a second. It's not like he was playing bad.
I mean, you look at Jacksonville. They've won three of
their last four um and so there are two teams
that are it seems like they're going in different directions.
I just feel like tonight's game short week, this late
in the season, it's it's way tougher than people think.
And their defense, you know, they've been playing better since
(24:20):
the buy. I wouldn't say great, and I just I
feel like this is one of those games where and
I think it's why Robert Sala brought back Zach Wilson
at this point. You know, there's obviously the Mike White injury.
But if if if let's say, was Zack Wilson struggles
tonight and then Mike White just gets in sort of
the last two weeks, it's like, well they gave him
(24:41):
a shot then versus two of arguably the worst, you know,
defenses in the League, So that was it. I mean,
it kind of feels like it has that feeling about it.
Maybe not, maybe I'm wrong, and Robert Sala literally just
doesn't feel like you can put Mike White in that position.
It's hard. Well, we we haven't. We don't have any
more additional information, which which that's part of the something
(25:01):
with teams is And I went through this before with
the team where I thought I was cleared. I got
cleared by my neurologist, you know, after dealing with the concussion.
I got cleared by an independent neurologist. I was practicing,
and I'm like, why am I not active? Like what
what is? What is the situation here? And then literally
they wouldn't clear me until the day of the game,
(25:24):
like our third game removed from the concussion, and I
remember thinking to myself, like, I don't get it. You
literally had I practice all we get nothing different than
what I would have done normally. So it's just it
was It's very odd, but teams obviously have their own
prerogative and why they do what they do. Yeah, so
we'll we'll get to see how this transpires. I mean,
(25:44):
if you do like and you do like the Jets
later tonight. Correct, I do. Actually I got the more
like one one and a half points, but yeah, I'd
still let this to one appl right, so that I mean,
this feels like we've got a correlation here, a correlated
parlay some would call it to where if you like
the Jets, you can get tight is to win the
division at plus money right now and as and if
this is really a quote unquote to facto elimination game
(26:06):
for the Jags plus money on the Titans, there's some
value there, Brady Quinn, little stock and stuffer for a
little something for you there, all right, it is two
pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
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(26:26):
your ears and shut your damn mouths. It's Edmund Garcia.
All right, thank you. Jonas will start with news from
the NFL. You guys been talking about a Thursday night
football tonight in New York. The Jets hosting the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Jacks quarterback Trevor Lawrence officially listened to a questionable with
the two injury Buddy's expected to start. As for New York,
they're gonna go with the Zack Wilson at quarterback with
Mike White still recovering from fractured ribs. More quarterback injury news.
(26:48):
Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, and Titans
quarterback Ryan Tannhill all miss practice on Wednesday. Tannehill reportedly
done for the rest of the season with an ankle injury.
NBA games of note, top two teams in the league
both go down on the same night. The Bucks fall
to the Cavaliers in Cleveland one fourteen to one oh six,
despite Jansen the COOPO going for forty five points in
fourteen Rebas Donovan Mitchell thirty six points and the win
(27:10):
for Cleveland and Jason Tatum at forty one points for Boston,
but the Celtics lose at home to the Pacers won
seventeen to one twelve nets over the Warriors one forty three,
one thirteen. Golden state that if any champs fall to
three and sixteen on the road this season. Top twenty
College basketball eleven ranked teams in action, five in the
top ten wins for number one per Due, third ranked Houston,
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number seven Texas, eight, Rank Tennessee and Ember ten Arkartsaw.
There were a couple of upsets at the bottom end
of the Top twenty five number twenty one Virginia Tech
losing to Boston College five and number twenty five Bears
on the State falling in San Francisco ninety seven to sixty.
College football at New Orleans Bowl it was Western Kentucky
over South Alabama forty four to twenty three. Now back
to Brady QUINNAMR. Arrington and Jonas Knoxons High Rack dot Com,
(27:52):
Fox Sports Radio Studio, Thanks Eddie two pros Nick up
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. What was the I
wonder what the attendance was at that bowl game last night.
Look like a lot of people dressed up as empty
seats to shame man out there just trying to battle
South Alabama. They were down like fourteen nothing before you
could even blink, and then uh, and they really didn't
(28:15):
get much better. They played better the second half. Alright,
I blinked, and then it was time to come to work. Alright,
So do you have any South Alabama fans? Do we
have any game show music here that we can play?
Let's let's play. I have the numbers. This is what
they're they're claiming is the number of I think tickets sold?
Is how this works at the super Dome there in
(28:37):
New Orleans. All right, so, olavar Areaton, you go first.
How many people do you think are we being reported
as being at that game the New Orleans Bowl last
night between South Alabama and Western Kentucky. And by the way,
capacity at the dome there is seventy three thousands. How
many people do you think showed up for that Western
(28:57):
Kentucky South Alabama? Let's say eight thousand eight? Jesus, really,
do you think that they're gonna say ticket sales were
somewhere in north of thousand? The correct answer is thousand,
(29:18):
four hundred and fifty sicks, LaVar Arrington, you were close
coations thousand, four hundred fifty six. I mean, yeah, by
the way, it can look how big that that dome is.
But why you why are you trashing the board? I'm
not listen, I'm not trashing the ball game. It was
just I saw him kicking extra point. I'm like to it, nobody,
(29:40):
nobody who's there to catch the ball? Yeah, come on.
The end zones are the last thing they fill up.
So you like, if you have a poor attended game,
and I know this because just once one, it's gonna
be the sidelines, right. They want to create kind of
like that cut off. So you're gonna have that one
fan base on one side where your benches, and then
the other fan base on the other side of where
they're benches and the end zones. If there's extra capacity,
(30:03):
like they'll sell those tickets, but typically they're not selling those,
like especially for some of these these lower level bowl games. Yeah. Well, hey,
listen to congratulations to Western Kentucky the Hilltoppers getting it
done there. Three final there at the New Orleans Bowls. So,
I mean, there weren't that many people there, but you
know what one final bowl game for a lot of
those guys. No reports on what the swag bag was
(30:25):
with the New Orleans Bowl. What do you think the
swag bag would be? Like some bunch of gumbo Virgin
Virgin Uh? Did those exist in Hurricanes? Her Virgin Hurricanes
I mean they probably have the real thing. And Patty O'Brien's,
I mean maybe some of them but not yes, just
maybe pouches in their bags. Is Patty O'Brien's fun. That's
(30:49):
like the place to go in New Orleans, right, cool
spot spot I've never never been. Yeah, Oh you gotta go.
That's That's one of these spots you gotta stop by.
And I feel like walking on Bourbon Street as overrated.
I just do. Like I got there and it's like,
Pam there it is. I got a hotel right off
of Bourbon Street and got on Bourbon Street and it
(31:11):
is like it stinks, um. People people bump into you.
They're they're kind of rude unless you have beats, your loser, um.
And And maybe that was like old school, I don't know,
but it was like, all right, I don't have any beats.
And then I'm seeing other dudes. You know, they weren't
equally as Hanselman as attractive as I am, but a
(31:33):
dead bodies flow by I did. I did see dead bodies.
I mean they might have not have been deceased deceats,
but they were certainly dead to the world at that
moment in time. That that I saw them. Yeah, a
few bodies. Now, why would you bring that up? Shut us? Well,
I'm glad you asked. Uh. Brian Williams, the former news
anchor for I Believe NBC, claimed that while he was
(31:54):
at his hotel there, he saw a dead body float
across when they had some overflow for Hurricane Katrine, A
saw a dead body. And as they did a little
bit of research, that was a lie, just a complete lie.
He just lying about seeing a corpse. How did they
thought that he was lying? Because he admitted dude later, Yeah, well,
(32:15):
I you know, I might have not seen oh yeah,
but he's got it. He had a little bit of
a track record of that. And if somebody who's always
told the truth on the air, that really doesn't sit
right with me, tell you that right now. Interesting, some
have actually called you, the Brian Williams of Sports Talk
radio about Christopher all sorts of wild allegations. I was
(32:37):
called something. Apparently Jonas brought the attention because he I mean,
you know, you know LaVar, you know Jonas Jonas will
sort through every comment anything that anyone. He's got the
biggest rabbit here. This is not true. This is why
Jonas trssed de flect to say, not true, because it's
very true. He hates admitting it on Live Rady admit anything.
(32:58):
Because I said the NBA's bo ring and that it
is good to fall asleep to on Christmas Day after
all the excitement of seeing what Santa brought and presence
and a nice meal in the afternoon, that it's nice
to then fall asleep to an NBA game. And apparently
some people took that the wrong way, Whereas, look, I
haven't really been a fan. I love the game of basketball.
(33:20):
It's the best thing to play, I think, for getting
shape and all that. It's fun. It's relatively easy, right
since to go out and play. Um, I just I'm sorry, man,
the NBA is not the same. It really isn't. I
have a hard time watching the NBA these days until
it gets in the playoffs. It's just it's a I'll
admit that. I think there's a lot of people who
probably fall into that category. So can we get the
(33:40):
game show music back before we get to break LaVar?
What do you think the claim was upon somebody hearing
that insult about the NBA from Brady Quinn? What do
you think? What name do you think Brady Quinn was
called or what accusation was made of Brady that he
dare be critical of the NBA and today's NBA. What
would you get us you had too? Uh? Man? Uh?
(34:05):
Can I give you a hint? Yes, we have a
drop on the show about it. Drop on the show
about it, you know, Burt So just imagine Brady Quinn,
just Brady Quinn being critical of the NBA. Somebody reached
out and said, he's low key blank for that statement.
(34:29):
Low key blank. I'm just trying to get it in man,
that's not that's low key blank. One word I'm touching
it right now. Starts with an R. No, don't worry,
don't know how it starts with an R. Low key
what tell me? Starts with the R? Just throw any
(34:51):
I don't know. Showice, there's such a good job, Tea. Yeah,
you should be to get this racist if you had
racist at home? That is correct. God forbid, God forbid
anybody be be critical of today's NBA because you're going
and let me just take this, let me just take
this a step further. Okay, let me just take this
a step further. I also like to knap to golf
(35:13):
on Sunday's okay, usually to the voice of Jim Nance
as he whispers on the eighteenth green. So apparently that's
also racist to uh to feel that way about the tour.
Absolutely it is. Yeah, let me just take a step further.
There's nothing better to that to on a Sunday as
far as the sporting of that than Jim Nance's voice
(35:35):
whispering you to sleep as you're watching golf. That's racist,
But that also is probably considered racist by that jackass.
It's Sports Radio to the air, alright, So we do
have an update on his story. We've been tracking here
on the show, and we'll have it for you right
(35:55):
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(37:40):
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they were accused of. Wow, So taxpayer dollars, right, I mean,
(38:05):
so he's he's been there for three weeks, so he
just waited him out. He waited him out. Man. That
guys like talking about setting the precedent. That guy just
waited about just you know, figured out whatever he was
gonna eat. And you know, snow Flurry's uh, you know
(38:26):
in Florida at the time, and there he was just
hanging out and didn't build a tunnel, didn't have to
build a tunnel to leave, and just that's it. It's
over all, right. I mean maybe he did have a
tunnel though, yeah, maybe possible. I mean, maybe he built
the tunnel for future. It's a great point. So Chopo did, man,
(38:48):
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part I Narcos where the tunnel collapses at one point, Like, well, listen,
we're gonna have to dig over those guys when we
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note from the Pro Bowl Games selection Eagles leading the
(39:10):
NFL with eight selections. But get this to a tong
tongula who led the fan votes not selected. That costs
him six million dollars in his contract. He was just
getting twenty two this year, would have gotten twenty eight
if he got selecked to the Pro Bowl. Damn. So
like thinking, by the way, though, if he's in the NFC,
is he selected, it's it's such. That's the thing that
(39:33):
I hate about the Pro Bowl is he's had a
Pro Bowl season. It's just unfortunately plays in the conference
with Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow justin Herbie Like,
it's just lamarj accident. When he's healthy, you know, it's like,
it's just tough. That sucks. Wow, listen, you know everything's
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