December 27, 2022 • 49 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Nathaniel Hackett couldn’t make it through his first year with the Broncos, Tua Tagovailoa lands in the concussion protocol once again and the Jets are finally moving on from Zach Wilson, but who comes in next season?
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Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on radio.
Let's go ahead and take a look at let's see
here Nathaniel Hackett. Yeah, that'll that'll wrap that up. So
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Nathaniel Hackett's done. The Denver Broncos made the decision yesterday
that Nathaniel Hackett is uh donzo as head coach of
the football team doesn't through a season, and uh maybe
not the most surprising thing in the world, considering whatever
the hell that bag of turns he rolled out and
the Broncos rolled out on Christmas Day and then the
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fight on the the skirmish on the sideline with Brett
Rippon and Dalton Risner and all that stuff that took place. Uh,
disastrous season feels like this Probably not that I can't
think of everyone's trying to put it as urban Meyer
as being a worse one year head coach. I don't
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even think it's close. I think Nathaniel Hackett and this
one and done is the worst in recent NFL history
as far as the coach goes. I didn't even know
who who's close to that, like maybe Bobby Petrino in Atlanta.
But this was a disaster from the get go, from
week one on and it just never got better for
the Denver Broncos. I will echo that for this reason.
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I think when you look at the fact that the
Broncos were at seeing that was kind of on the
cusp the playoffs, and he basically got in there his
head coach, and not that their defense took a step back,
and I think they kind of held their own for
the large part of the season until their most recent
loss of the Rooms. But offensively, I mean it wasn't
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anywhere even close. The clock management, the game management by Hackett,
it was awful. Early. They bring in Jerry Rossberg, who,
by the way, falls into the best position of anyone
guy wasn't even the staff of of the season. Now
it ends up being the internet head coach. I mean,
we're well for him, um, but if you think about
like where the Jags were when urban Meyer took over,
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it's not like he was taking over some playoff you know,
bounder or contending team and it was gonna take some
time and they pulled out the from underneath. In this case,
this was a roster that I think everyone would admit
even that the head coach they fired, they were a
quarterback away. They were right there. You brought in Nathaniel
Hackett for that reason to be able to get this
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off playing at a higher level and with a guy
like Russell Wilson who you not only traded for, but
you take on this big contract, and it never looked
anywhere close to what I think they needed it to
in order to ultimately be competitive, not only in that division,
but just as a f C playoffs team given how
much competition there is in that conference. And Nathaniel Hackett's
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a nice guy. I think he's a smart guy, and
this is his first crack and being coach. I'm sure
he'll get an they shot at some point someday. But man,
he's got a world of changes and kind of looking
at himself in the mirror and figuring some things out
moving forward, because this was a disaster with the team
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that was primed to go to the playoffs. And I
think it's gonna be incredibly damning if whoever comes in
next turns this two playoffs end of next year, it's
only gonna speak volumes about his his lack of readiness
and maybe just overall ability to be a head coach. Um,
I'm gonna first taking my victory lap, because you guys
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do know I enjoy taking my victory laps when I
get them. Um, let's take it with you. I think
you asked a question not too long ago, would he
get fired in season? Would he make it out of
the season. I didn't think he would, and I told
you he was going he was out of there. Thank you,
Thank you. I know that isn't on I know that
isn't on the sound sheet or anything like that, but
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I'm gonna take my victory lap on that one. I'd
say he wasn't going on the kid, tell me, why
is that allow to cut you? That's all good? All right,
that's first. Thank you. Thank you. Especially this late in
the season, I was like, they'll just let him finish
it out and then we'll just figure it out in
the off season. It's like, oh my god, it's gotten worse.
Here's why it's worse than than Urban, in my opinion,
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is because you have unproven commodity in your quarterback. When
you're coming in like sure, the hype and the excitement
of getting Trevor Lawrence and getting Urban at the same time,
presented a lot of excitement and a lot of intrigue,
and Jackson was picking number one for a reason. They
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were terrible. Johnsonville was not good. They were not they
were not a good team, and the Wins lost column
um and and then the idea that you were going
to have to develop a phenomena quarterback um in the
early early on of their career. Whereas this, at to
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Brady's point, this was a a very very competitive team.
Their defense was built built well, they had. Allow me,
you've got three or four receivers on on that roster,
you know, to two of which you could probably you know,
alternate at at the one the one receiver position if
you really wanted to. So to me, looking at where
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they were at and and seeing where they are right now,
you know, not only does a lot of it, you know,
fall at the feet of the head coach, but it
falls out the feet of Russell Wilson. And I find
it to be interesting whoever comes in there is going
to have to figure out what is the balance of
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of your team in terms of what are Russell Wilson's
limitations as a QB. Because now, just like we always
bring up Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Well, you know
what Tom Brady could have went off and exactly what
Russell Wilson did this year? Nothing right. And and so
when you think about it, did Russ have a bad
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enough season where it put things back into perspective for him?
Maybe you took for granted the things that the coaching
staffs were doing to to minimize what your your elements
were as a quarterback, that your shortcomings as a quarterback,
and now it is all out for consumption in a
season where you know, you were brought in, you were
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given a big contract, they told you you could cook,
and this is what you came up with, you know.
So to me, I wonder if that next coach can
can go to Russ and be like listen, man, like
we're gonna do it this way. This is how we're
gonna do it, and Russe will be more open to
doing it to try to salvage you know what what
took place this year. You don't want to have another
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year like this, You just don't. If you're Russell Wilson.
You can lean on the fact that you've been two
Super Bowls. You can lean on the fact that you
won one. You can lean on the fact that you
got a large contract, but can you lean on the
fact that you are a guy that that knew how
to get it done and you left because they didn't
trust you, or you know, the the idea of them
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not buying into you the way that you wanted them to,
and you go to to a team that seemingly did
by the way they paid you, and they had the
pieces and you couldn't have success. So I just wonder
if that next coach is going to have the opportunity
to speak to him in a way where you get
a different rust than what this coach did. You know,
you get a more humbler, humbler Russell Wilson, You get
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a more open Russell Wilson to what it may be
that they need to do in order for them to
be able to take steps back forward into being a
winning team. So Sean Payton reportedly is putting together this
all star coaching staff and he's already yeah, yeah, you know.
It's weird. These things have really stirred up a lot lately.
I don't know why that is, Like, have you guys
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seen Schefter's tweets lately? It just it looks like, all right, um,
who's the agent for Sean Payton. All right, that guy
sends him a copy paste email and then Chefter just
posted do you think he just that? Literally it's it's
so complimentary and so over the top about whoever that is.
It could be Sean Payton, it could be anyone who's
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breaking news on like this player suffered an injury, but
given the fact that he's got wolverine blood the system,
he will be back faster than any human being in
the history of human beings that is dealing with this
particular injury and surgery. Like it's it's this, it's such
an over the top thing he's been doing lately, and
Sean Payton was the first one I noticed. I was like,
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really it going, well, my god, like, oh, he's putting
it in an All Star to Okay, okay, okay, that's thanks, thanks,
thanks Chef. By the way, the fact that Big Fangio
is going to be his defensive coordinator, you can go
ahead and next the Broncos out of the potential suitors
for Sean Payton, what about Dan? But but by the way,
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hence the reason why that Adam Schefter didn't put that
as part of it, because obviously Sean Payne's e wants
to make sure that all parties are open to potentially
bringing in Sean Payton, you know, getting Sean Paytons their
head coach. Meanwhile, you would think that logically, yeah, it
wouldn't make sense to have Vic Fangier come back his invents.
According unless he really wanted to say, all right, I
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liked working here and nothing living here enough, I'll go
ahead and take a lesser role to come back. I
mean he he obviously had the defense playing at a
high level, so maybe it wouldn't make some sense. But
clearly Schefter didn't include that dan Quinn very very possible
he interviewed last year. Let me let me throw this
out there at you. Whoever goes as the head coach,
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It's all about what LaVar just brought up. It's all
about Russell Wilson and maximize hand. The defense has been
playing well now for a while, whether it's Vic fan
Joe or either under Nathaniel Hackett overo, who's the you
know d C Now, I guess he turned down there
and head coaching job because he's gonna interview for other
head coaching jobs. But my point is this, even if
it's dan Quinn who that offensive coordinator higher is matters
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as much as anything and that and that's kind of
the odd thing about it is do you go on
this again because you need to get Russell right? And
even if you hire the head coach, everyone's gonna be like, Okay, great,
you know you hired a great guy who's the offensive coordinator?
You know, how are we going to fix this offense?
Like it's still the biggest question depending on who you hire.
So maybe you lean to more an offensive minded guy,
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and maybe you limited to guys who've had prior experience
so you don't go through the issues you had with
Nathaniel Hackett. But then you might miss a guy like
Shane Stikeen and Philly who's done a heck of a
job there, you know, calling place to them and scheming
things up. So I think the Broncos are a little
tougher spot than maybe people people think in regards to
how they go about this hiring process who they bring in,
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because it's all about what Russ. It's all about how
he's going to react because he's got the cards. He's
got the cards. Be sure to catch live editions of
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I Heart Radio Whip. Here we go again. The Miami
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Dolphins have a quarterback problem to a Takobyloa is back
in concussion protocol. Here was the Dolphins head coach, Mike McDaniel,
who was stepped up to the podium. Wanted to talk
with the media and explain the situation. And so Mike
McDaniel walks up to the podium. He takes his left hand,
puts it on the left side, his right hand on
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the other side, and he had this to say to
the media. I care very deeply about each and every player. Um,
I take that serious. So you know, I just I
just want him to get healthy and have peace of
mind in that regard. And that's first and foremost, and
then whatever those circumstances are after, you deal with after.
But it's about the human being and making sure he's
squared away, all right, So my quarterback is held. I mean, yeah,
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I just want to make you sure that that Q
and and Burd and Jonas and Lee, you know, everything
is good. When when they get done with what they're
doing for the day. What I think that's your best impression. Thanks,
thank you, Jonas. I really appreciate great compliment about that.
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Sounds just like that's your guy. I just have a
good time with it. Yeah, yeah, but his voice is funny.
Is this the second concussion protocol has been in? Yeah,
And officially thought he should have been in after the
first hit, right, and then he got concussed the next week,
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and so he was in for an extent a period
of time then and now this is the second time.
It might be done for the year. Man, I was
just thinking that he might be done for the year.
I mean two is initial. That whole two week period
from the initial hit where he went back in the
game and the following week another nasty hit, and then
he's he's in concussion protocol for a while. That's what
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sparked the whole outrage. And you know all the people
on this, you know the warriors on Twitter released, you know,
stick their fire. But this is a tough call because
you are more susceptible once you suffer one to have another.
Dealt with that in two thousand twelve, and the weird
thing was it wasn't a hit that we were able
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to determine maybe two was to a degree, and he
didn't talk about those symptoms until yesterday, where then he
ended up going into the protocol. So it's it could
be a scary thing and he might need some time
in order to heal and and be able to come back.
But it puts the Dolphins in a really tough spot
as they're trying to still hang on and to you know,
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make a playoff, and meanwhile they've got what divisional games
the rest the way, New England, New York. It's it's
a tough spot to being, I think for him as competitor,
but also as a person and trying to do what's
best for him long term. But I'm a little confused
because I thought they got rid of that independent neurologist
that let him back in the game that first time,
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So that should have cleared everything up right, like there
should have been no other issues, and yet and yet
here we are and there's still the same It's just
he was Christmas Junkes. Well, that's a good point. Yeah,
I forgot what day it was. But Warren sharp, because
there's some speculation is to win he suffered the concussion
and there was a hit in the game where he
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got tackled and hit the back of his head on
the turf, similar to what has happened with him a
couple of times already this year. And so Warren Sharp
broke down sort of his numbers before the hit and
then afterwards. Before the hit, he was nine of twelve
two nine yards, he had a touchdown and note picks.
After that play he was seven of thirteen, one yards,
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no touchdowns and three picks. Like there was a clear
difference between the quality of play which after he took
the hit and after he didn't take the hit. And
the one thing I've seen people sort of throw out
there that I don't think applies here is when they're
talking about, well, this is the danger when you have
a mobile quarterback or somebody like to his hits. Aren't
him trying to pick up first downs? Right? It's him maybe,
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you know, trying to make a play, but he's getting
wrapped up and tackled and he's hitting the back of
his head on the turf, like can he pick it
at the same issue this year, he suffered a couple
of concussion. It's not like he's getting hit helmet to
helmet considered to be a like a mobile mobile quarterback.
He's good mobile. Yeah, he's not like a mobile quarterback.
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I don't know they changed the slide rule in college
football because yeah, I mean it wasn't that was a
good moment for any other It wasn't a bowl? How
many other how many other championship? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
um a c C championship? So how many quarterbacks have
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gotten concussed this year of note? Like, how do how
many do we think you know off the top of
your head, we probably don't even know. It's not that
it's Wilson, Um. I'm trying to think who else pick it?
Russ Um Bridgewater. Yeah, the first first could cuss Stafford, Stafford, Stafford, Stafford,
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Stufford one. But yeah, there's been there's been five or
six maybe that have suffered a concussion, and uh two
is one. Out of all those those quarterbacks you just name,
how many of them we say are true runners like
they're running, they're runner run run option quarterbacks. Mobile? It
depends how you're defining it. I mean, no one's no
one's Lamar Jackson. It's hard to well, I'm just saying,
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like an RPO style quarterback, like a guy that's going
to they're going to run like Jalen Hurts. You know,
Jalen Hurts is going to be a part of their
their's gonna run, you know what I mean? Like, how
many of them will we say, because when we start
to to identify, Okay, is this a problem connected to
a running quarterback? A mobile quarterback? Any of them are
really mobile? I'll say this, I don't know if it
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matters whether they're running or not. I think what people
tend to look at is are they in the pocket?
Round of the pocket? Like if they're in the pocket,
you you get a lot of protection as a quarterback,
and so typically when when the concussions are happening in
the pocket, there's not really much else you can do
for right, you can't help improve their offensive line or
their scheme and all that, or then seeing the field
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getting rid of the football. That's just that's just the
product of their play and then what's around him and
everything else. If if you're making the case because he's
out of the pocket, a little different story. I mean,
I feel like every quarterback now has to have a
degree of mobility to them. They don't be Lamar Jackson
running the football, but they do have to be mobile
enough to be able to move into the pocket or
move out of the pocket. But I just I think
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the conversation is usually tied to are the end the
pocket or out of the pocket when these hits are taken.
But I think that's such a valid point because defenses
are trying to destroy a pocket that that's just as
good in in a lot of cases, unless you're dealing
with a quarterback that can can deal on the move,
that that's a win. If you can collapse the pocket,
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if you can make the quarterback move off of his mark,
that's a win. So pretty much every quarterback has to
be able to play outside of the pocket. In I
don't think there is no true like you could say
it's a true pocket passing quarterback, but that's just to
say that there there they stand maybe statues of sorts
and throw the delivery. He's probably but the last or
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only one. But Tom Brady is forced to move off
his mark as well. Tom Brady has to deal outside
of the pocket. I mean, that's what defenses are doing.
Defenses will actually give up the outside, they'll give up
contain with the outside pass rusher. A defensive end or
a rushing backer, and we saw Michael Parsons doing it
this past week, Like they'll give up the outside just
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to flush you out, just to flush you out of
the pocket. They'll overload to the inside to to collapse
the pocket. So anyway, not to get off all into that,
but I'm just saying the point of it is is
that guys, the quarterback has to be able to to
do it inside and outside of the pocket. Like that's
that's the bottom line, and they're going to be the
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one that's that. Really you think about, there's two guys
that touch the ball every single play when when the
offense and the defense is on the field, and that's
the center and that's the quarterback unless something totally different
changes and they put somebody else in. But what you're
guaranteed is the center and the quarterback are gonna touch
the ball. So the quarterback is the He is the
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main focal point of touching down on a defense. There
are eight to nine guys every single play, maybe seven,
maybe four, depending on where you are in the game,
but their whole intentions, their whole job description is to
get to the quarterback like there's no other there's no
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other position. Out there where you say, my entirety of
my gig, maybe a safety I mean, excuse me, maybe
a cornerback. But the bottom line is you have multiple
guys that their job is entirely to get to a quarterback,
so they're going to get hit, They're going to take hits.
I just think that we're getting to a place now
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where when guys get concussed and get these situations like
even like I saw Steve Wish make the comment about
to hit that Derwin James mate, and how people were
like this was so cringe worthy, and oh my gosh,
this that and the other. You know, most of your
your Hall of famers are not in the Hall of
Fame if that hit is illegal when they were playing.
You know more still, the highlights that built the reputation
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and the popularity of the sport outside of making big catches,
big catches, big hits, big plays, big hits. We've gone
so far away from guys being valid in a valiant
sport that when we see something take place, it's such
a it's it's like a mind blower, like, oh my gosh,
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he's got two concussions, Like, deal with the concussion. If
he can play, he can play. If he can't, he can't.
Guys get injuries that shorten their careers all the time.
It's it's it's a natural process of guys have to
come and guys have to go. And if that doesn't happen,
I don't, you know, I'm not sure how it all
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plays out. But I just don't understand why people get
so caught up into Okay, he's got a concussion, Like
he got concussed. It happens like, move on, like he's
got he's got to go through protocol, move like, move
on from it because guys are going to get hit.
Does he play this weekend because he's not been ruled
out and they say it's too early, and obviously they
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got a lot to play for By the way they're reeling,
they've lost four straight, Miami has they do not look
anywhere close to the team that started the season, and
so they're in the midst of this losing streak. Um,
you know, they need they've got to win. Obviously they
need a Jets loss, which you know what would help
them get into the postseason. But at this point, do
you think he plays? And if you guys were if
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you guys were running the Dolphins are coaching this team.
It's to a playing the rest of the year because
he threw out the question he might be done or
the thought that he might be done the rest of
the season. Would you play him the rest of the
year based on this being a second or possibly third
issues with concussion so far this season, You've got to
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leave it up to him and the doctors, right, Like,
I don't think this is like a Mike McDaniel decision.
This is a two the doctors involved, and how he's feeling.
I think the toughest thing about asking that question is
players can hide it. If he really wants to play,
he can, you know, try his best to talk his
way out of ask him, because ultimately he only he's
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the one who knows how he feels, how he's seeing things,
how he's you know, if he's gotten symptoms and headaches,
and then whether or not he's able to kind of
sleep and process cognitively everything that's going on. And so
that's the tough part is they might have to try
to protect him from himself if he wanted to go
that route, because some people felt like he went that
route the first time, and that's how you ended up
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with a concussion the following week. So it's it's tough
to predict. To me, it's not so much about that,
Like I'd be curious to look at their odds right
now of making the playoffs because on a four game skid,
which I think after the Buffalo game and then looking
at the schedule, at least I look at it and thought, okay,
kind of a moral victory, right like, you're up again
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by ten points against Buffalo. Yes, they come back to win,
but you proved a lot of doubt or is wrong
about your ability to play in bad weather, a divisional poll,
a place like that last week, I mean a till
of two halves, but again up ten in the in
the second half, and you give up that lead again
two weeks in a row. That one was tough, tough
till to swallow, you know, the game in your grasps,
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and in two weeks in a row, you give up
a second half lead like that, Uh tough, you know.
So look, whether it's Bridgewater whoever else, To me, it's
it's it's more of like, is their value there to
try to, you know, place a bet on this team
to potentially still making the playoffs, giving their circumstances, did
you So are you looking for the odds for them
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to get into the postseason? What I mean, like I
can cry, okay, yeah, I'll give me one second here,
thank you quick minus two minus two the Miami Dolphins
to get into the postseason. So that is the that
is the odds cording to our friends draft Kings. Uh,
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the odds and them to not make the playoffs pays
out at plus one seventy five. So a hundred dollars wins,
you won seventy five in return if you don't think
the Miami Dolphins are going to the postseason. So there
you're odd. Do you think it's an indictment on the
Patriots and the Jets? Consider the Dolphins basically have to
win one game. They just have to win one of
the next two, right right, one game and then if
you know, the Jets lose, Yeah, I think that's that's
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an indicator that maybe the bottom portion of the whoever
whoever gets the second seed is going to get wiped out.
Most like, it doesn't really matter if the Jets lose, right,
that's more that has to do with whether the Jets
maker or not the Dolphins and seven I mean at
nine and eight, they're probably so they just gotta win
one of the next two and obviously if they beat
the Jets in Week eighteen, there's your loss, but there's
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your win too for the Dolphins anyway. Yeah, yeah, so
it's uh so, there's the situation with two in the
Miami Dolphins and Mike McDaniel and by the the Miami
said kind of a weird stretch, kind of an up
and down season. When you just look at everything that
they've done as far as their their wins, they started
off hot, then they got cold. Everything they've done has
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been on a streak. They started off with three three wins,
they lost three in a row, then they won five
in a row. Now they've lost four in a row.
Just a roller coaster season for them at Miami Dolphins.
And when from where they started and now you're looking
at the fact that they may not finish above five,
it's kind of kind of that's kind of been a
little bit of a meltdown for Miami, just sort of
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late in the season. So not not a good finish
to the season for your your Florida team there, Brady,
They've been accustomed to this, right, They've been accustomed to
December meltdowns, and it's been what twenty some years since
they've won a playoff games, So I'm sure there's a
lot of a lot of folks who are curious to
see if they can make it into the tournament, into
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the playoffs and see what happens from there. Yeah, be
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York Jets they've decided on a quarterback for the remainder
of the season. Now This is a stunning, stunning development here,
but apparently it's not going to be Zack Wilson. Here
was the Jets head coach Robert Salah talking about the decision. Mike,
did you a clearance? So he will be the starter,
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the second quarterback, number two quarterback will be Joe Flaco.
He still has a huge plan in our future. And
we're still, like I said, we're not quitting on the
young man. We're gonna do everything we can to pilbum.
So there's so there's that the status Mike White your
starter moving forward there for the New York Jets, has
there been a coaching staff that has received less criticism
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for the way they've gone about managing the quarterback position
This year it's we mean, let me just go through
the season and you guys tell me what the hell
is going on in New York. Okay, So to begin
this season, it's it's Zack Wilson, right, but then he
gets hurt. Instead of Mike White, it was Joe Flacco
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who comes in. So then Flacco ends up eventually being
dethroned by by Zack Wilson. Because Wilson returns from injury,
he's healthy, not playing that great, and eventually then they
insert Mike White instead of Joe Flacco to get the
next crack at it. Mike White then gets hurt. He's out,
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and so instead of going back to Joe Flacco, they
go back to Zack Wilson, but instead of Joe Flacco
being the back of its christ Chris Traveler. I mean,
I'm just I'm trying to make sense of all of this,
how it's gone about. And then, of course, you know,
Mike White's healthy again, so then he gets reinserted back
in as a starting quarterback, but instead of Zack Wilson
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being the backup, because you know, Robert Sale keeps telling us,
we're you know, this is the end of Zach Wilson.
We're gonna see him again, Okay, but now he's inactive
and Joe Flacco is back to being the backup. This
has been quite possibly the most mismanaged quarterback position or
carousel that I've seen in a while, and to me,
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it goes back to the initial benching of Zach Wilson
that should have never taken place for the simple fact
that if after all of this you still miss the playoffs,
what was the point, I mean, what was the point
of all of it. If you still miss the playoffs.
Even if you make it, Mike White's not going to
be the quarterback in the future. It's no disrespecting Mike
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whitepl lot of respect for the way he has handed
himself and conducted himself through all of this. He's no
doubt given this offense a spark when he's in there,
as opposed to Zack Wilson. But they'll go look the
drafting of the quarterback next year. Like I said earlier
this season, where Jets fans got upset, But that's the
reality of how this league works. But for some reason,
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Robert Sala has not received any criticism whatsoever for how
he's managed it, at least a comparison to how Brian
Flores managed things with Tour Taloa and that that, you know,
yanking him back in and out of the line up
with Brian Fitzpatrick. So I look at this and say,
I'm not surprised by it. I do feel for Zach
Wilson the sense of I wish they would have gave
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him the entire season. If you're gonna draft the number
two overall and you're gonna make that commitment, then let
it play out. You can't yank him out of there
and keep putting him back in and forth where you
never truly get to see if he could fight through
adversity and develop and become the player you hope he
is going to be, regardless of your team's circumstances. That's
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just where it's at. So I do find it convenient though,
that after not having clearance from ten separate doctors, that
now Mike White four days later is clear to be
the starter again. It's it's a bit ironic that that
timing happened to work out as you now get into
your more difficult schedule moving forward the last two weeks,
having to go to Seattle and finish with Miami as
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opposed to two of the worst defenses we've seen the
past two weeks in the Detroit Lions and and who
they faced this past week. I've just slipped my mind
the Jaguars, the Jaguars who also at seven in the league,
I believe. I mean, listen, how dare you to discredit
you know, the medical uh people associated with the Jets
that we're looking at Jack will soon. Maybe the eleventh
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doctor saw something on the scans that the tenth ninth,
eighth and anybody before that didn't see. I mean, I
don't think that's pretty reckless to go ahead in question
yeah all Mike, why yeah, come on now, eleven time
to charm you know, Eleven's and ember Lay. They brought
him back? Are they brought him back? And bringing Mike
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White back under certainly Stick City is a place, um
and it's a place probably whereas Zach Wilson will probably
come visit and try to find himself because they've they've
told Robert Sillies told the entire football world in the
New York Jets fan base that outside of extraordinary circumstances
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or just an extraordinary happening, that that Zack Wilson is
not their guy. He's not Robert, he's an active because
they want to have the ability to trade him. Glazier
said that they're done with him. Yes, I mean you've
told everybody you're he's not your guy. That's that's what.
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And we said this, I mean, if we want to
take another victory lap, we did say that last week
that if if for some strange reason, the reasoning behind
like White's aggressive approach to trying to get cleared is
so that he can play, and that the Jets were
actually waiting on him to get cleared so that they
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could play him. After you made Zach Wilson the starter.
I think we said if he doesn't have success in
this game, that this could mean the end. Like I
think that was you Jonas that they actually threw it
out there like this, this could be the end for him.
So I just I look at this situation. It's not
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it's not seemingly going to magically get better. You're not
gonna say, Okay, we're getting the young kid, getting him right.
We haven't given up on the young guy. Like why
even mentioned that? You don't even have to mention that,
because conventional wisdom says what it says. The market. It's
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like it's like testing a theory in the market. You
know what happens. The market will tell you what you
have and if it doesn't perform, then the market has spoken.
You can't say the market is lying like the consumer
is lying, No, you can't do it. And and that's
what's taking place right now. There's buyer's remorse going on
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all over the league. I mean, think about what's going
on in Denver. I mean there's just a whole lot
of buyer's remorse going on, and there's buyer's remorse that's
going on with Zach Wilson, and and there's no there's
no turning back from it. I would respect the situation
more if Robert Sala was a little bit more candid
about the scenario. You know, don't don't tell me you're
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trying to get the young guy right, Like, no, we're
trying to make it to the playoffs, and he doesn't
give us the best opportunity. I would like he seems
like that type of guy. I would I would totally
be even more of a fan like he he. I
became a fan of him watching the way he coached
the defense in the Saffran then the way he came
in and he brought his mentality. It isn't over the
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top like some coaches may be in terms of being
a tough guy coach. It isn't over the top. It's
just right there. At at it's it's like it flirts
with meathead coach, but it's not like he's good. If
he would just maintain that that hard, hard kin type
of approach, I think he'd have more people buying into
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the fact that you're going to move on from Zack Wilson.
I think this makes it messier because he's he's almost
trying to straddle defense and be like, look, we could
still use him. We were kinda into him. You know,
he just needs some more development. He needs to to
understand it, like no, man, like, just just let us know,
you know, and I think we'll respect you more and
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and and what you have to say. Because now moving
forward to I mean you gotta look at it like, Okay,
you know Silas of smoking mirrors, dude, Like he's not
really going to tell you the up and up about
what it is, even though you expect him to be
that type of Guy's The hard thing is now the
position they put themselves in. I mean, I think they're
more app to try to go after a free agent
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quarterback this offseason, more so than draft one, because you
have to look at where the rosters at. They are
in a position to compete to go to the playoffs
if they have a if they just have competent quarterback play.
So if you look at the list of potential free agents,
I mean, you could have maybe a Matt Ryan depending
on how things going Inniapolis, Jimmy Garoppolo will be a
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free agent. But you're concerned is he's coming off an injury,
and he's had injuries his entire career. Can he stay healthy.
I can't imagine Tom Brady would want to go to
the New York Jets. I could be wrong in that assumption,
but there's a number of players who could end up,
you know, being free agents after the season that have
a veteran presence that they might look at and say,
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this is the best alternative because we don't feel like
we can draft the guy that we really love, or
Phiel is ready to play right away. You know, maybe
Anthony Richardson from Florida is available at that spot, but
they don't feel like you can come in right away
and play, and you could Anthony shouldn't handle that media
market and the pressure and everything else that comes along
with it if he's still a player that needs time
to develop when they're in a win now mode. So
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I think the veteran routes probably the route they're gonna go.
And then that leaves you to look at do they
let Zach Wilson sit there and continue to kind of
soak things in and develop, or do they move on
for a six seveth round pick and cut ties. Now,
it's probably best for both parties to do that. At
least you give him a fresh start somewhere else with
a team that wants him, and you give yourself an
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additional you know, draft pick, and you admit a mistake
and you move on. You know, that's probably it was
what makes the most sense for the Jets after this season.
But you know, look, Zax in a tough spot. You know,
he's not gonna have anyone who's really pounding on the
door to bring him in and give him a shot
to start. He's gonna have to earn it back, either
through good play as a backup, through injury, or maybe
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a quarterback competition. But either way, um, I think there's
probably some things that were taking for granted. And as
I said, when it first came out, everyone got all
excited about him big into moms and everything else along
with that. How's that looking now? Yeah, it's by the way,
if I was Zach Wilson, I'd want to get the
hell out of there too. It's over and just that
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the reaction early on in that game, just from the
fan base that's completely turned on him, by the way,
fan fan base that was so sensitive off anybody ever
was critical of Zach Wilson. Uh, you know over the
past year plus, now all of a sudden they've turned
on him. Robert Salez. Hey, but no, no, no, no, no,
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you can't do it. Let me can I throw out
a possible scenario for you. If we're going veteran quarterback
next season for the Jets, all right, and you're looking
around and maybe you want to make a deal. Are
you calling up green Bay? Say? Who's who's on the
trade block? Is it either Rogers? Is it Jordan's Love?
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Are you at least well, I'm James saying he considered
a legit option. But I'm just saying, who who would be?
Who would you think green Bay would be more likely
to trade or or be willing to trade Rogers or
Jordan's Love? After this season? A clear house? Probably because
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I wonder if they would get rid of his Aaron
Rodgers contract, they get rid of both of them. Hold
on now there if they went out there in the playoffs, yeah,
I mean, they're gonna beat the Vikings this week, but
they got them at home. There are three point favor
last time I checked. I'm just saying, like if they
go into the playoffs. I don't know why Green Bay
would be itching to get out from underneath that contract
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when he's under contract for another two years. Yeah, I
get it. What if they don't make the playoffs. I
just think that this was a wild year for them
and it just didn't look good if they limp into
the playoffs, and and when the super Bowl, and then
I look like a brilliant, brilliant guy, and I will
take my victory lap um. And you know I had
the Packers in the Super Bowl. Tis. I'm gonna tell
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you what crazy is. Baltimore Ravens are going to make
the playoffs as well, and and so both my teams
will still be alive, you know, will be with the
Jets next year. Oh hey, there he is. I'll I'll
tell you another one. Give me one, Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah,
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that's not it. That's not a spicy doesn't need to
be spicy. I'm just saying, all right, I think that
those make the most sense. All right, let's go around
the horn. All right, somebody's getting traded to the Jets.
It's got to be a quarterback. I'll take Rogers Bernos
got Derek Carr. Who else has got one? Let's just
throw them all out there, because one of us is
going to be right. Yeah, trade, it's got to be
a trade. If they're bringing in a veteran, come on,
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but one of us is going to get it right,
so we can. We can claim it if they trade anywhere. Okay,
but what if they then, Lee, we'll delete all this
stuff and then no jet fantas proof of it. So
let's just go ahead, like, let's throw something on on
on the grill here, Let's let it heat up a
little bit, and then if it's ready to go, we'll
serve it. All right, Lee, we got one Baker Mayfield? Okay?
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I mean it is he a free agent? En off
this year though? Yeah, come on, it's got to be
a trade. Let's get juicy. Yeah, let's do what Jonas
is said. Throw somebody out there here. Okay? They all right?
Kyler Burry, there's one alight, that's interesting. That would be
far Who you got Let's go do a trade? Come
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on about Lance? Okay? Okay, how about it? Way? Can
you imagine that? That'd be great? Alright? So listen, I
think we've thrown enough out there, and the would be better.
If Garoppolos side with the Jets and then all of
a sudden, Trey Lances traded there, that'd be that'd be fantastic.
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But it's a man they really have. And now that
you bring up, by the way, the comparison between Robert
Sala and Brian Flores and they're handling up quarterbacks, it
is true. Nobody's mismanaged a high draft fit quarterback since
Brian Flores, like Robert Sala has and yet free pass.
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And you know what I think it is because he
wears a long beanie. Yeah, but I think he went
way hard. Everyone is that you're stupid. I think he
went way harder on that then Floras did. On onto
a chance, Flora's with yake him out, like he didn't
deactivate him? Did he activate? Come on, man, I'd rather
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get pulled out of a game like yeah, I'm messing
it up, or man, I I don't know why I
can't do anything right, Like I'd rather be in the
game than be deactivated like multiple times, well this is
now multiple times he's deactivating. But on the road. One
was against Denver. They lost that game. The other game
was against the Raiders and the only reason that Miami
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won that game, and he had all these these Brian
Flores ball washers were like, oh see, he made the
right move. Ryan Fitzpatrick the game for the Dolphins. First
of all, he nearly got his head ripped off. I
forget who was it a god? Who was the guy
for the Raiders that that made the play and got no, no, no,
it was it was a d n made to play
for the Raiders and almost ripped Ryan Fitzpatrick's head off,
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And they got called for a personal foul and then
they went down the field and kicked along field. But
it wasn't like Ryan Fitzpatrick being brought in won them
the game. Yet everyone made it seem like that was
the proper move to make. De activate a player. You
can't do anything for me. I can't, I can't put
you in and say nope, I don't know that he
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can focus on out there. Yeah, he what he's got,
he's got he's got other interests out here. By did
you see Zach Wilson's mom was going at it with
some Jets fan on like snap face or something like that.
One last trade, by the way, one last trade Wilson. Okay, well,
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hold on now, Robert Sala was in Seattle. There's some
familiarity there. It's a system he'd be familiar with, one
that has a great defense, good rushing attack. He wanted
to be in a bigger market. It's the bigger market
that for his post career aspirations he wants to be in.
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I'm just saying, if the Jets can make something happen there.
What would be his catch phrase when he went to
New York after this season, flight Let's fly, Let's let's fly,
Let's fly. Think about this, if the if the ownership group,
if the ownership group in death, let's just have it.
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Let's fly. You know it. Actually it does kind of
make a little bit of sense if so. He so
he got it all the as from Denver. Yeah, and
that's why he didn't get all them. But that's why
he didn't get all over. But that's why I didn't
get all them bit rooms in his house because he
wasn't playing on his than exactly. So he was what's
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the ratio bedrooms and square foot four bedrooms, twelve bathrooms.
I like, four bedrooms, twelve bathrooms. I get that, Like,
if this isn't a bedroom, the bathroom you have a
place to poop throughout your your house. I want to
know the square it's always it's like a twenty one
square square foot home. Yeah, can we get the square
foot four bedrooms? Score, but twelve baths? Yeah, bathrooms makes sense. Okay,
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I understand you got everywhere you got. You gotta a
place to take a crap every every fifteen, You got
to go to the bathroom. When he comes on square feet,
you go all right? So listen, Yeah, I had a
twenty one thousand square foot house on Kim, Would you
stop being so relatable and fell asleep? I would fall
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asleep in certain spots in my house and wake up
and be confused as to where I was at the
same if I could have gave your reports back then,
Like I woke up and I was like every time
I wake up in my foot on, I'm like, where
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the hell am I? That was that the house with
the Yeah, that was the Koi Pond house. Yeah, I
had some interesting memories from Yeah, that was where I
had the duel with with the crab. I was I
was crabbing wait what and I was put I was
putting off whatever. I was putting all the crabs into
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the You know the barrel. Yeah, and this one crab,
this one crab got loose and that happened. And he
was I mean he was he was. He was postured
imposed on me like he was looking up at me.
I was clearly taller than he. He had his pinchers
ready to go, and I was just like hanging from
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your belt buckle. I mean, you're actually just going to
my I mean, are you going to Gillett? I mean, y'all,
y'all are so focused who started it? I mean, you
guys are so focused in on my pelvic region. I
mean I don't No, it's Bert to too, not not cute,
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but Berto and Jonas so dumb. Well, No, it's good.
Stand anyways. The way the way those crabs walk, dude,
it's it freaks me out every time. That's sad. The
side they just they moved so fast side to side.
You don't expect that. All I know is I get
I'd let that crap go because of the way he
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made me feel, the passion behind his eyes and his
pintures that he wanted to survive, and I free the
rest of them. So he basically instead of us going
from old baying him and eating them with some red potatoes.
They were freed into back into the set the Whitehall Creek. Yeah,
I let them all go. More of the story as
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as you gotta be a fighter, you gotta hope that
one is willing to fight put it on the line,
and the rest of you well. And also LaVar doesn't
want crabs. It's true. It's like the worst punch line.
You forced talking of your crowbar forced? Do you want crabs?
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I love crabs. Actually it's corn. Yeah it was corn.
It was forced. But it's all right, you have crab.
You're acting like a crab in the barrel. How about that.
Stop trying to pull me down, Jonas, that is you.
I saw you look down at these two times when
he was bringing it up joking, meaning that you're dealing
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with that issue right now. You have a conflict right now.
You look down at least two three times like dang,
like let me put this on the vall. Can he see?
Can he tell what's going on here? That's why you
went to the bathroom two extra times during the show
to day to pros that comb and that powder out ajax,
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whatever it is.
Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on radio.
Let's go ahead and take a look at let's see
here Nathaniel Hackett. Yeah, that'll that'll wrap that up. So
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Nathaniel Hackett's done. The Denver Broncos made the decision yesterday
that Nathaniel Hackett is uh donzo as head coach of
the football team doesn't through a season, and uh maybe
not the most surprising thing in the world, considering whatever
the hell that bag of turns he rolled out and
the Broncos rolled out on Christmas Day and then the
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fight on the the skirmish on the sideline with Brett
Rippon and Dalton Risner and all that stuff that took place. Uh,
disastrous season feels like this Probably not that I can't
think of everyone's trying to put it as urban Meyer
as being a worse one year head coach. I don't
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even think it's close. I think Nathaniel Hackett and this
one and done is the worst in recent NFL history
as far as the coach goes. I didn't even know
who who's close to that, like maybe Bobby Petrino in Atlanta.
But this was a disaster from the get go, from
week one on and it just never got better for
the Denver Broncos. I will echo that for this reason.
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I think when you look at the fact that the
Broncos were at seeing that was kind of on the
cusp the playoffs, and he basically got in there his
head coach, and not that their defense took a step back,
and I think they kind of held their own for
the large part of the season until their most recent
loss of the Rooms. But offensively, I mean it wasn't
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anywhere even close. The clock management, the game management by Hackett,
it was awful. Early. They bring in Jerry Rossberg, who,
by the way, falls into the best position of anyone
guy wasn't even the staff of of the season. Now
it ends up being the internet head coach. I mean,
we're well for him, um, but if you think about
like where the Jags were when urban Meyer took over,
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it's not like he was taking over some playoff you know,
bounder or contending team and it was gonna take some
time and they pulled out the from underneath. In this case,
this was a roster that I think everyone would admit
even that the head coach they fired, they were a
quarterback away. They were right there. You brought in Nathaniel
Hackett for that reason to be able to get this
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off playing at a higher level and with a guy
like Russell Wilson who you not only traded for, but
you take on this big contract, and it never looked
anywhere close to what I think they needed it to
in order to ultimately be competitive, not only in that division,
but just as a f C playoffs team given how
much competition there is in that conference. And Nathaniel Hackett's
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a nice guy. I think he's a smart guy, and
this is his first crack and being coach. I'm sure
he'll get an they shot at some point someday. But man,
he's got a world of changes and kind of looking
at himself in the mirror and figuring some things out
moving forward, because this was a disaster with the team
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that was primed to go to the playoffs. And I
think it's gonna be incredibly damning if whoever comes in
next turns this two playoffs end of next year, it's
only gonna speak volumes about his his lack of readiness
and maybe just overall ability to be a head coach. Um,
I'm gonna first taking my victory lap, because you guys
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do know I enjoy taking my victory laps when I
get them. Um, let's take it with you. I think
you asked a question not too long ago, would he
get fired in season? Would he make it out of
the season. I didn't think he would, and I told
you he was going he was out of there. Thank you,
Thank you. I know that isn't on I know that
isn't on the sound sheet or anything like that, but
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I'm gonna take my victory lap on that one. I'd
say he wasn't going on the kid, tell me, why
is that allow to cut you? That's all good? All right,
that's first. Thank you. Thank you. Especially this late in
the season, I was like, they'll just let him finish
it out and then we'll just figure it out in
the off season. It's like, oh my god, it's gotten worse.
Here's why it's worse than than Urban, in my opinion,
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is because you have unproven commodity in your quarterback. When
you're coming in like sure, the hype and the excitement
of getting Trevor Lawrence and getting Urban at the same time,
presented a lot of excitement and a lot of intrigue,
and Jackson was picking number one for a reason. They
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were terrible. Johnsonville was not good. They were not they
were not a good team, and the Wins lost column
um and and then the idea that you were going
to have to develop a phenomena quarterback um in the
early early on of their career. Whereas this, at to
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Brady's point, this was a a very very competitive team.
Their defense was built built well, they had. Allow me,
you've got three or four receivers on on that roster,
you know, to two of which you could probably you know,
alternate at at the one the one receiver position if
you really wanted to. So to me, looking at where
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they were at and and seeing where they are right now,
you know, not only does a lot of it, you know,
fall at the feet of the head coach, but it
falls out the feet of Russell Wilson. And I find
it to be interesting whoever comes in there is going
to have to figure out what is the balance of
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of your team in terms of what are Russell Wilson's
limitations as a QB. Because now, just like we always
bring up Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Well, you know
what Tom Brady could have went off and exactly what
Russell Wilson did this year? Nothing right. And and so
when you think about it, did Russ have a bad
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enough season where it put things back into perspective for him?
Maybe you took for granted the things that the coaching
staffs were doing to to minimize what your your elements
were as a quarterback, that your shortcomings as a quarterback,
and now it is all out for consumption in a
season where you know, you were brought in, you were
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given a big contract, they told you you could cook,
and this is what you came up with, you know.
So to me, I wonder if that next coach can
can go to Russ and be like listen, man, like
we're gonna do it this way. This is how we're
gonna do it, and Russe will be more open to
doing it to try to salvage you know what what
took place this year. You don't want to have another
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year like this, You just don't. If you're Russell Wilson.
You can lean on the fact that you've been two
Super Bowls. You can lean on the fact that you
won one. You can lean on the fact that you
got a large contract, but can you lean on the
fact that you are a guy that that knew how
to get it done and you left because they didn't
trust you, or you know, the the idea of them
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not buying into you the way that you wanted them to,
and you go to to a team that seemingly did
by the way they paid you, and they had the
pieces and you couldn't have success. So I just wonder
if that next coach is going to have the opportunity
to speak to him in a way where you get
a different rust than what this coach did. You know,
you get a more humbler, humbler Russell Wilson, You get
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a more open Russell Wilson to what it may be
that they need to do in order for them to
be able to take steps back forward into being a
winning team. So Sean Payton reportedly is putting together this
all star coaching staff and he's already yeah, yeah, you know.
It's weird. These things have really stirred up a lot lately.
I don't know why that is, Like, have you guys
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seen Schefter's tweets lately? It just it looks like, all right, um,
who's the agent for Sean Payton. All right, that guy
sends him a copy paste email and then Chefter just
posted do you think he just that? Literally it's it's
so complimentary and so over the top about whoever that is.
It could be Sean Payton, it could be anyone who's
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breaking news on like this player suffered an injury, but
given the fact that he's got wolverine blood the system,
he will be back faster than any human being in
the history of human beings that is dealing with this
particular injury and surgery. Like it's it's this, it's such
an over the top thing he's been doing lately, and
Sean Payton was the first one I noticed. I was like,
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really it going, well, my god, like, oh, he's putting
it in an All Star to Okay, okay, okay, that's thanks, thanks,
thanks Chef. By the way, the fact that Big Fangio
is going to be his defensive coordinator, you can go
ahead and next the Broncos out of the potential suitors
for Sean Payton, what about Dan? But but by the way,
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hence the reason why that Adam Schefter didn't put that
as part of it, because obviously Sean Payne's e wants
to make sure that all parties are open to potentially
bringing in Sean Payton, you know, getting Sean Paytons their
head coach. Meanwhile, you would think that logically, yeah, it
wouldn't make sense to have Vic Fangier come back his invents.
According unless he really wanted to say, all right, I
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liked working here and nothing living here enough, I'll go
ahead and take a lesser role to come back. I
mean he he obviously had the defense playing at a
high level, so maybe it wouldn't make some sense. But
clearly Schefter didn't include that dan Quinn very very possible
he interviewed last year. Let me let me throw this
out there at you. Whoever goes as the head coach,
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It's all about what LaVar just brought up. It's all
about Russell Wilson and maximize hand. The defense has been
playing well now for a while, whether it's Vic fan
Joe or either under Nathaniel Hackett overo, who's the you
know d C Now, I guess he turned down there
and head coaching job because he's gonna interview for other
head coaching jobs. But my point is this, even if
it's dan Quinn who that offensive coordinator higher is matters
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as much as anything and that and that's kind of
the odd thing about it is do you go on
this again because you need to get Russell right? And
even if you hire the head coach, everyone's gonna be like, Okay, great,
you know you hired a great guy who's the offensive coordinator?
You know, how are we going to fix this offense?
Like it's still the biggest question depending on who you hire.
So maybe you lean to more an offensive minded guy,
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and maybe you limited to guys who've had prior experience
so you don't go through the issues you had with
Nathaniel Hackett. But then you might miss a guy like
Shane Stikeen and Philly who's done a heck of a
job there, you know, calling place to them and scheming
things up. So I think the Broncos are a little
tougher spot than maybe people people think in regards to
how they go about this hiring process who they bring in,
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because it's all about what Russ. It's all about how
he's going to react because he's got the cards. He's
got the cards. Be sure to catch live editions of
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I Heart Radio Whip. Here we go again. The Miami
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Dolphins have a quarterback problem to a Takobyloa is back
in concussion protocol. Here was the Dolphins head coach, Mike McDaniel,
who was stepped up to the podium. Wanted to talk
with the media and explain the situation. And so Mike
McDaniel walks up to the podium. He takes his left hand,
puts it on the left side, his right hand on
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the other side, and he had this to say to
the media. I care very deeply about each and every player. Um,
I take that serious. So you know, I just I
just want him to get healthy and have peace of
mind in that regard. And that's first and foremost, and
then whatever those circumstances are after, you deal with after.
But it's about the human being and making sure he's
squared away, all right, So my quarterback is held. I mean, yeah,
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I just want to make you sure that that Q
and and Burd and Jonas and Lee, you know, everything
is good. When when they get done with what they're
doing for the day. What I think that's your best impression. Thanks,
thank you, Jonas. I really appreciate great compliment about that.
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Sounds just like that's your guy. I just have a
good time with it. Yeah, yeah, but his voice is funny.
Is this the second concussion protocol has been in? Yeah,
And officially thought he should have been in after the
first hit, right, and then he got concussed the next week,
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and so he was in for an extent a period
of time then and now this is the second time.
It might be done for the year. Man, I was
just thinking that he might be done for the year.
I mean two is initial. That whole two week period
from the initial hit where he went back in the
game and the following week another nasty hit, and then
he's he's in concussion protocol for a while. That's what
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sparked the whole outrage. And you know all the people
on this, you know the warriors on Twitter released, you know,
stick their fire. But this is a tough call because
you are more susceptible once you suffer one to have another.
Dealt with that in two thousand twelve, and the weird
thing was it wasn't a hit that we were able
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to determine maybe two was to a degree, and he
didn't talk about those symptoms until yesterday, where then he
ended up going into the protocol. So it's it could
be a scary thing and he might need some time
in order to heal and and be able to come back.
But it puts the Dolphins in a really tough spot
as they're trying to still hang on and to you know,
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make a playoff, and meanwhile they've got what divisional games
the rest the way, New England, New York. It's it's
a tough spot to being, I think for him as competitor,
but also as a person and trying to do what's
best for him long term. But I'm a little confused
because I thought they got rid of that independent neurologist
that let him back in the game that first time,
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So that should have cleared everything up right, like there
should have been no other issues, and yet and yet
here we are and there's still the same It's just
he was Christmas Junkes. Well, that's a good point. Yeah,
I forgot what day it was. But Warren sharp, because
there's some speculation is to win he suffered the concussion
and there was a hit in the game where he
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got tackled and hit the back of his head on
the turf, similar to what has happened with him a
couple of times already this year. And so Warren Sharp
broke down sort of his numbers before the hit and
then afterwards. Before the hit, he was nine of twelve
two nine yards, he had a touchdown and note picks.
After that play he was seven of thirteen, one yards,
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no touchdowns and three picks. Like there was a clear
difference between the quality of play which after he took
the hit and after he didn't take the hit. And
the one thing I've seen people sort of throw out
there that I don't think applies here is when they're
talking about, well, this is the danger when you have
a mobile quarterback or somebody like to his hits. Aren't
him trying to pick up first downs? Right? It's him maybe,
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you know, trying to make a play, but he's getting
wrapped up and tackled and he's hitting the back of
his head on the turf, like can he pick it
at the same issue this year, he suffered a couple
of concussion. It's not like he's getting hit helmet to
helmet considered to be a like a mobile mobile quarterback.
He's good mobile. Yeah, he's not like a mobile quarterback.
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I don't know they changed the slide rule in college
football because yeah, I mean it wasn't that was a
good moment for any other It wasn't a bowl? How
many other how many other championship? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
um a c C championship? So how many quarterbacks have
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gotten concussed this year of note? Like, how do how
many do we think you know off the top of
your head, we probably don't even know. It's not that
it's Wilson, Um. I'm trying to think who else pick it?
Russ Um Bridgewater. Yeah, the first first could cuss Stafford, Stafford, Stafford, Stafford,
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Stufford one. But yeah, there's been there's been five or
six maybe that have suffered a concussion, and uh two
is one. Out of all those those quarterbacks you just name,
how many of them we say are true runners like
they're running, they're runner run run option quarterbacks. Mobile? It
depends how you're defining it. I mean, no one's no
one's Lamar Jackson. It's hard to well, I'm just saying,
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like an RPO style quarterback, like a guy that's going
to they're going to run like Jalen Hurts. You know,
Jalen Hurts is going to be a part of their
their's gonna run, you know what I mean? Like, how
many of them will we say, because when we start
to to identify, Okay, is this a problem connected to
a running quarterback? A mobile quarterback? Any of them are
really mobile? I'll say this, I don't know if it
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matters whether they're running or not. I think what people
tend to look at is are they in the pocket?
Round of the pocket? Like if they're in the pocket,
you you get a lot of protection as a quarterback,
and so typically when when the concussions are happening in
the pocket, there's not really much else you can do
for right, you can't help improve their offensive line or
their scheme and all that, or then seeing the field
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getting rid of the football. That's just that's just the
product of their play and then what's around him and
everything else. If if you're making the case because he's
out of the pocket, a little different story. I mean,
I feel like every quarterback now has to have a
degree of mobility to them. They don't be Lamar Jackson
running the football, but they do have to be mobile
enough to be able to move into the pocket or
move out of the pocket. But I just I think
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the conversation is usually tied to are the end the
pocket or out of the pocket when these hits are taken.
But I think that's such a valid point because defenses
are trying to destroy a pocket that that's just as
good in in a lot of cases, unless you're dealing
with a quarterback that can can deal on the move,
that that's a win. If you can collapse the pocket,
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if you can make the quarterback move off of his mark,
that's a win. So pretty much every quarterback has to
be able to play outside of the pocket. In I
don't think there is no true like you could say
it's a true pocket passing quarterback, but that's just to
say that there there they stand maybe statues of sorts
and throw the delivery. He's probably but the last or
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only one. But Tom Brady is forced to move off
his mark as well. Tom Brady has to deal outside
of the pocket. I mean, that's what defenses are doing.
Defenses will actually give up the outside, they'll give up
contain with the outside pass rusher. A defensive end or
a rushing backer, and we saw Michael Parsons doing it
this past week, Like they'll give up the outside just
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to flush you out, just to flush you out of
the pocket. They'll overload to the inside to to collapse
the pocket. So anyway, not to get off all into that,
but I'm just saying the point of it is is
that guys, the quarterback has to be able to to
do it inside and outside of the pocket. Like that's
that's the bottom line, and they're going to be the
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one that's that. Really you think about, there's two guys
that touch the ball every single play when when the
offense and the defense is on the field, and that's
the center and that's the quarterback unless something totally different
changes and they put somebody else in. But what you're
guaranteed is the center and the quarterback are gonna touch
the ball. So the quarterback is the He is the
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main focal point of touching down on a defense. There
are eight to nine guys every single play, maybe seven,
maybe four, depending on where you are in the game,
but their whole intentions, their whole job description is to
get to the quarterback like there's no other there's no
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other position. Out there where you say, my entirety of
my gig, maybe a safety I mean, excuse me, maybe
a cornerback. But the bottom line is you have multiple
guys that their job is entirely to get to a quarterback,
so they're going to get hit, They're going to take hits.
I just think that we're getting to a place now
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where when guys get concussed and get these situations like
even like I saw Steve Wish make the comment about
to hit that Derwin James mate, and how people were
like this was so cringe worthy, and oh my gosh,
this that and the other. You know, most of your
your Hall of famers are not in the Hall of
Fame if that hit is illegal when they were playing.
You know more still, the highlights that built the reputation
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and the popularity of the sport outside of making big catches,
big catches, big hits, big plays, big hits. We've gone
so far away from guys being valid in a valiant
sport that when we see something take place, it's such
a it's it's like a mind blower, like, oh my gosh,
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he's got two concussions, Like, deal with the concussion. If
he can play, he can play. If he can't, he can't.
Guys get injuries that shorten their careers all the time.
It's it's it's a natural process of guys have to
come and guys have to go. And if that doesn't happen,
I don't, you know, I'm not sure how it all
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plays out. But I just don't understand why people get
so caught up into Okay, he's got a concussion, Like
he got concussed. It happens like, move on, like he's
got he's got to go through protocol, move like, move
on from it because guys are going to get hit.
Does he play this weekend because he's not been ruled
out and they say it's too early, and obviously they
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got a lot to play for By the way they're reeling,
they've lost four straight, Miami has they do not look
anywhere close to the team that started the season, and
so they're in the midst of this losing streak. Um,
you know, they need they've got to win. Obviously they
need a Jets loss, which you know what would help
them get into the postseason. But at this point, do
you think he plays? And if you guys were if
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you guys were running the Dolphins are coaching this team.
It's to a playing the rest of the year because
he threw out the question he might be done or
the thought that he might be done the rest of
the season. Would you play him the rest of the
year based on this being a second or possibly third
issues with concussion so far this season, You've got to
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leave it up to him and the doctors, right, Like,
I don't think this is like a Mike McDaniel decision.
This is a two the doctors involved, and how he's feeling.
I think the toughest thing about asking that question is
players can hide it. If he really wants to play,
he can, you know, try his best to talk his
way out of ask him, because ultimately he only he's
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the one who knows how he feels, how he's seeing things,
how he's you know, if he's gotten symptoms and headaches,
and then whether or not he's able to kind of
sleep and process cognitively everything that's going on. And so
that's the tough part is they might have to try
to protect him from himself if he wanted to go
that route, because some people felt like he went that
route the first time, and that's how you ended up
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with a concussion the following week. So it's it's tough
to predict. To me, it's not so much about that,
Like I'd be curious to look at their odds right
now of making the playoffs because on a four game skid,
which I think after the Buffalo game and then looking
at the schedule, at least I look at it and thought, okay,
kind of a moral victory, right like, you're up again
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by ten points against Buffalo. Yes, they come back to win,
but you proved a lot of doubt or is wrong
about your ability to play in bad weather, a divisional poll,
a place like that last week, I mean a till
of two halves, but again up ten in the in
the second half, and you give up that lead again
two weeks in a row. That one was tough, tough
till to swallow, you know, the game in your grasps,
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and in two weeks in a row, you give up
a second half lead like that, Uh tough, you know.
So look, whether it's Bridgewater whoever else, To me, it's
it's it's more of like, is their value there to
try to, you know, place a bet on this team
to potentially still making the playoffs, giving their circumstances, did
you So are you looking for the odds for them
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to get into the postseason? What I mean, like I
can cry, okay, yeah, I'll give me one second here,
thank you quick minus two minus two the Miami Dolphins
to get into the postseason. So that is the that
is the odds cording to our friends draft Kings. Uh,
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the odds and them to not make the playoffs pays
out at plus one seventy five. So a hundred dollars wins,
you won seventy five in return if you don't think
the Miami Dolphins are going to the postseason. So there
you're odd. Do you think it's an indictment on the
Patriots and the Jets? Consider the Dolphins basically have to
win one game. They just have to win one of
the next two, right right, one game and then if
you know, the Jets lose, Yeah, I think that's that's
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an indicator that maybe the bottom portion of the whoever
whoever gets the second seed is going to get wiped out.
Most like, it doesn't really matter if the Jets lose, right,
that's more that has to do with whether the Jets
maker or not the Dolphins and seven I mean at
nine and eight, they're probably so they just gotta win
one of the next two and obviously if they beat
the Jets in Week eighteen, there's your loss, but there's
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your win too for the Dolphins anyway. Yeah, yeah, so
it's uh so, there's the situation with two in the
Miami Dolphins and Mike McDaniel and by the the Miami
said kind of a weird stretch, kind of an up
and down season. When you just look at everything that
they've done as far as their their wins, they started
off hot, then they got cold. Everything they've done has
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been on a streak. They started off with three three wins,
they lost three in a row, then they won five
in a row. Now they've lost four in a row.
Just a roller coaster season for them at Miami Dolphins.
And when from where they started and now you're looking
at the fact that they may not finish above five,
it's kind of kind of that's kind of been a
little bit of a meltdown for Miami, just sort of
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late in the season. So not not a good finish
to the season for your your Florida team there, Brady,
They've been accustomed to this, right, They've been accustomed to
December meltdowns, and it's been what twenty some years since
they've won a playoff games, So I'm sure there's a
lot of a lot of folks who are curious to
see if they can make it into the tournament, into
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the playoffs and see what happens from there. Yeah, be
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Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. The New
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York Jets they've decided on a quarterback for the remainder
of the season. Now This is a stunning, stunning development here,
but apparently it's not going to be Zack Wilson. Here
was the Jets head coach Robert Salah talking about the decision. Mike,
did you a clearance? So he will be the starter,
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the second quarterback, number two quarterback will be Joe Flaco.
He still has a huge plan in our future. And
we're still, like I said, we're not quitting on the
young man. We're gonna do everything we can to pilbum.
So there's so there's that the status Mike White your
starter moving forward there for the New York Jets, has
there been a coaching staff that has received less criticism
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for the way they've gone about managing the quarterback position
This year it's we mean, let me just go through
the season and you guys tell me what the hell
is going on in New York. Okay, So to begin
this season, it's it's Zack Wilson, right, but then he
gets hurt. Instead of Mike White, it was Joe Flacco
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who comes in. So then Flacco ends up eventually being
dethroned by by Zack Wilson. Because Wilson returns from injury,
he's healthy, not playing that great, and eventually then they
insert Mike White instead of Joe Flacco to get the
next crack at it. Mike White then gets hurt. He's out,
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and so instead of going back to Joe Flacco, they
go back to Zack Wilson, but instead of Joe Flacco
being the back of its christ Chris Traveler. I mean,
I'm just I'm trying to make sense of all of this,
how it's gone about. And then, of course, you know,
Mike White's healthy again, so then he gets reinserted back
in as a starting quarterback, but instead of Zack Wilson
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being the backup, because you know, Robert Sale keeps telling us,
we're you know, this is the end of Zach Wilson.
We're gonna see him again, Okay, but now he's inactive
and Joe Flacco is back to being the backup. This
has been quite possibly the most mismanaged quarterback position or
carousel that I've seen in a while, and to me,
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it goes back to the initial benching of Zach Wilson
that should have never taken place for the simple fact
that if after all of this you still miss the playoffs,
what was the point, I mean, what was the point
of all of it. If you still miss the playoffs.
Even if you make it, Mike White's not going to
be the quarterback in the future. It's no disrespecting Mike
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whitepl lot of respect for the way he has handed
himself and conducted himself through all of this. He's no
doubt given this offense a spark when he's in there,
as opposed to Zack Wilson. But they'll go look the
drafting of the quarterback next year. Like I said earlier
this season, where Jets fans got upset, But that's the
reality of how this league works. But for some reason,
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Robert Sala has not received any criticism whatsoever for how
he's managed it, at least a comparison to how Brian
Flores managed things with Tour Taloa and that that, you know,
yanking him back in and out of the line up
with Brian Fitzpatrick. So I look at this and say,
I'm not surprised by it. I do feel for Zach
Wilson the sense of I wish they would have gave
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him the entire season. If you're gonna draft the number
two overall and you're gonna make that commitment, then let
it play out. You can't yank him out of there
and keep putting him back in and forth where you
never truly get to see if he could fight through
adversity and develop and become the player you hope he
is going to be, regardless of your team's circumstances. That's
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just where it's at. So I do find it convenient though,
that after not having clearance from ten separate doctors, that
now Mike White four days later is clear to be
the starter again. It's it's a bit ironic that that
timing happened to work out as you now get into
your more difficult schedule moving forward the last two weeks,
having to go to Seattle and finish with Miami as
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opposed to two of the worst defenses we've seen the
past two weeks in the Detroit Lions and and who
they faced this past week. I've just slipped my mind
the Jaguars, the Jaguars who also at seven in the league,
I believe. I mean, listen, how dare you to discredit
you know, the medical uh people associated with the Jets
that we're looking at Jack will soon. Maybe the eleventh
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doctor saw something on the scans that the tenth ninth,
eighth and anybody before that didn't see. I mean, I
don't think that's pretty reckless to go ahead in question
yeah all Mike, why yeah, come on now, eleven time
to charm you know, Eleven's and ember Lay. They brought
him back? Are they brought him back? And bringing Mike
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White back under certainly Stick City is a place, um
and it's a place probably whereas Zach Wilson will probably
come visit and try to find himself because they've they've
told Robert Sillies told the entire football world in the
New York Jets fan base that outside of extraordinary circumstances
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or just an extraordinary happening, that that Zack Wilson is
not their guy. He's not Robert, he's an active because
they want to have the ability to trade him. Glazier
said that they're done with him. Yes, I mean you've
told everybody you're he's not your guy. That's that's what.
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And we said this, I mean, if we want to
take another victory lap, we did say that last week
that if if for some strange reason, the reasoning behind
like White's aggressive approach to trying to get cleared is
so that he can play, and that the Jets were
actually waiting on him to get cleared so that they
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could play him. After you made Zach Wilson the starter.
I think we said if he doesn't have success in
this game, that this could mean the end. Like I
think that was you Jonas that they actually threw it
out there like this, this could be the end for him.
So I just I look at this situation. It's not
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it's not seemingly going to magically get better. You're not
gonna say, Okay, we're getting the young kid, getting him right.
We haven't given up on the young guy. Like why
even mentioned that? You don't even have to mention that,
because conventional wisdom says what it says. The market. It's
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like it's like testing a theory in the market. You
know what happens. The market will tell you what you
have and if it doesn't perform, then the market has spoken.
You can't say the market is lying like the consumer
is lying, No, you can't do it. And and that's
what's taking place right now. There's buyer's remorse going on
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all over the league. I mean, think about what's going
on in Denver. I mean there's just a whole lot
of buyer's remorse going on, and there's buyer's remorse that's
going on with Zach Wilson, and and there's no there's
no turning back from it. I would respect the situation
more if Robert Sala was a little bit more candid
about the scenario. You know, don't don't tell me you're
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trying to get the young guy right, Like, no, we're
trying to make it to the playoffs, and he doesn't
give us the best opportunity. I would like he seems
like that type of guy. I would I would totally
be even more of a fan like he he. I
became a fan of him watching the way he coached
the defense in the Saffran then the way he came
in and he brought his mentality. It isn't over the
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top like some coaches may be in terms of being
a tough guy coach. It isn't over the top. It's
just right there. At at it's it's like it flirts
with meathead coach, but it's not like he's good. If
he would just maintain that that hard, hard kin type
of approach, I think he'd have more people buying into
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the fact that you're going to move on from Zack Wilson.
I think this makes it messier because he's he's almost
trying to straddle defense and be like, look, we could
still use him. We were kinda into him. You know,
he just needs some more development. He needs to to
understand it, like no, man, like, just just let us know,
you know, and I think we'll respect you more and
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and and what you have to say. Because now moving
forward to I mean you gotta look at it like, Okay,
you know Silas of smoking mirrors, dude, Like he's not
really going to tell you the up and up about
what it is, even though you expect him to be
that type of Guy's The hard thing is now the
position they put themselves in. I mean, I think they're
more app to try to go after a free agent
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quarterback this offseason, more so than draft one, because you
have to look at where the rosters at. They are
in a position to compete to go to the playoffs
if they have a if they just have competent quarterback play.
So if you look at the list of potential free agents,
I mean, you could have maybe a Matt Ryan depending
on how things going Inniapolis, Jimmy Garoppolo will be a
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free agent. But you're concerned is he's coming off an injury,
and he's had injuries his entire career. Can he stay healthy.
I can't imagine Tom Brady would want to go to
the New York Jets. I could be wrong in that assumption,
but there's a number of players who could end up,
you know, being free agents after the season that have
a veteran presence that they might look at and say,
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this is the best alternative because we don't feel like
we can draft the guy that we really love, or
Phiel is ready to play right away. You know, maybe
Anthony Richardson from Florida is available at that spot, but
they don't feel like you can come in right away
and play, and you could Anthony shouldn't handle that media
market and the pressure and everything else that comes along
with it if he's still a player that needs time
to develop when they're in a win now mode. So
(37:08):
I think the veteran routes probably the route they're gonna go.
And then that leaves you to look at do they
let Zach Wilson sit there and continue to kind of
soak things in and develop, or do they move on
for a six seveth round pick and cut ties. Now,
it's probably best for both parties to do that. At
least you give him a fresh start somewhere else with
a team that wants him, and you give yourself an
(37:29):
additional you know, draft pick, and you admit a mistake
and you move on. You know, that's probably it was
what makes the most sense for the Jets after this season.
But you know, look, Zax in a tough spot. You know,
he's not gonna have anyone who's really pounding on the
door to bring him in and give him a shot
to start. He's gonna have to earn it back, either
through good play as a backup, through injury, or maybe
(37:51):
a quarterback competition. But either way, um, I think there's
probably some things that were taking for granted. And as
I said, when it first came out, everyone got all
excited about him big into moms and everything else along
with that. How's that looking now? Yeah, it's by the way,
if I was Zach Wilson, I'd want to get the
hell out of there too. It's over and just that
(38:11):
the reaction early on in that game, just from the
fan base that's completely turned on him, by the way,
fan fan base that was so sensitive off anybody ever
was critical of Zach Wilson. Uh, you know over the
past year plus, now all of a sudden they've turned
on him. Robert Salez. Hey, but no, no, no, no, no,
(38:34):
you can't do it. Let me can I throw out
a possible scenario for you. If we're going veteran quarterback
next season for the Jets, all right, and you're looking
around and maybe you want to make a deal. Are
you calling up green Bay? Say? Who's who's on the
trade block? Is it either Rogers? Is it Jordan's Love?
(38:56):
Are you at least well, I'm James saying he considered
a legit option. But I'm just saying, who who would be?
Who would you think green Bay would be more likely
to trade or or be willing to trade Rogers or
Jordan's Love? After this season? A clear house? Probably because
(39:16):
I wonder if they would get rid of his Aaron
Rodgers contract, they get rid of both of them. Hold
on now there if they went out there in the playoffs, yeah,
I mean, they're gonna beat the Vikings this week, but
they got them at home. There are three point favor
last time I checked. I'm just saying, like if they
go into the playoffs. I don't know why Green Bay
would be itching to get out from underneath that contract
(39:38):
when he's under contract for another two years. Yeah, I
get it. What if they don't make the playoffs. I
just think that this was a wild year for them
and it just didn't look good if they limp into
the playoffs, and and when the super Bowl, and then
I look like a brilliant, brilliant guy, and I will
take my victory lap um. And you know I had
the Packers in the Super Bowl. Tis. I'm gonna tell
(39:59):
you what crazy is. Baltimore Ravens are going to make
the playoffs as well, and and so both my teams
will still be alive, you know, will be with the
Jets next year. Oh hey, there he is. I'll I'll
tell you another one. Give me one, Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah,
(40:20):
that's not it. That's not a spicy doesn't need to
be spicy. I'm just saying, all right, I think that
those make the most sense. All right, let's go around
the horn. All right, somebody's getting traded to the Jets.
It's got to be a quarterback. I'll take Rogers Bernos
got Derek Carr. Who else has got one? Let's just
throw them all out there, because one of us is
going to be right. Yeah, trade, it's got to be
a trade. If they're bringing in a veteran, come on,
(40:42):
but one of us is going to get it right,
so we can. We can claim it if they trade anywhere. Okay,
but what if they then, Lee, we'll delete all this
stuff and then no jet fantas proof of it. So
let's just go ahead, like, let's throw something on on
on the grill here, Let's let it heat up a
little bit, and then if it's ready to go, we'll
serve it. All right, Lee, we got one Baker Mayfield? Okay?
(41:03):
I mean it is he a free agent? En off
this year though? Yeah, come on, it's got to be
a trade. Let's get juicy. Yeah, let's do what Jonas
is said. Throw somebody out there here. Okay? They all right?
Kyler Burry, there's one alight, that's interesting. That would be
far Who you got Let's go do a trade? Come
(41:25):
on about Lance? Okay? Okay, how about it? Way? Can
you imagine that? That'd be great? Alright? So listen, I
think we've thrown enough out there, and the would be better.
If Garoppolos side with the Jets and then all of
a sudden, Trey Lances traded there, that'd be that'd be fantastic.
(41:47):
But it's a man they really have. And now that
you bring up, by the way, the comparison between Robert
Sala and Brian Flores and they're handling up quarterbacks, it
is true. Nobody's mismanaged a high draft fit quarterback since
Brian Flores, like Robert Sala has and yet free pass.
(42:07):
And you know what I think it is because he
wears a long beanie. Yeah, but I think he went
way hard. Everyone is that you're stupid. I think he
went way harder on that then Floras did. On onto
a chance, Flora's with yake him out, like he didn't
deactivate him? Did he activate? Come on, man, I'd rather
(42:30):
get pulled out of a game like yeah, I'm messing
it up, or man, I I don't know why I
can't do anything right, Like I'd rather be in the
game than be deactivated like multiple times, well this is
now multiple times he's deactivating. But on the road. One
was against Denver. They lost that game. The other game
was against the Raiders and the only reason that Miami
(42:53):
won that game, and he had all these these Brian
Flores ball washers were like, oh see, he made the
right move. Ryan Fitzpatrick the game for the Dolphins. First
of all, he nearly got his head ripped off. I
forget who was it a god? Who was the guy
for the Raiders that that made the play and got no, no, no,
it was it was a d n made to play
for the Raiders and almost ripped Ryan Fitzpatrick's head off,
(43:15):
And they got called for a personal foul and then
they went down the field and kicked along field. But
it wasn't like Ryan Fitzpatrick being brought in won them
the game. Yet everyone made it seem like that was
the proper move to make. De activate a player. You
can't do anything for me. I can't, I can't put
you in and say nope, I don't know that he
(43:36):
can focus on out there. Yeah, he what he's got,
he's got he's got other interests out here. By did
you see Zach Wilson's mom was going at it with
some Jets fan on like snap face or something like that.
One last trade, by the way, one last trade Wilson. Okay, well,
(43:59):
hold on now, Robert Sala was in Seattle. There's some
familiarity there. It's a system he'd be familiar with, one
that has a great defense, good rushing attack. He wanted
to be in a bigger market. It's the bigger market
that for his post career aspirations he wants to be in.
(44:20):
I'm just saying, if the Jets can make something happen there.
What would be his catch phrase when he went to
New York after this season, flight Let's fly, Let's let's fly,
Let's fly. Think about this, if the if the ownership group,
if the ownership group in death, let's just have it.
(44:50):
Let's fly. You know it. Actually it does kind of
make a little bit of sense if so. He so
he got it all the as from Denver. Yeah, and
that's why he didn't get all them. But that's why
he didn't get all over. But that's why I didn't
get all them bit rooms in his house because he
wasn't playing on his than exactly. So he was what's
(45:14):
the ratio bedrooms and square foot four bedrooms, twelve bathrooms.
I like, four bedrooms, twelve bathrooms. I get that, Like,
if this isn't a bedroom, the bathroom you have a
place to poop throughout your your house. I want to
know the square it's always it's like a twenty one
square square foot home. Yeah, can we get the square
foot four bedrooms? Score, but twelve baths? Yeah, bathrooms makes sense. Okay,
(45:41):
I understand you got everywhere you got. You gotta a
place to take a crap every every fifteen, You got
to go to the bathroom. When he comes on square feet,
you go all right? So listen, Yeah, I had a
twenty one thousand square foot house on Kim, Would you
stop being so relatable and fell asleep? I would fall
(46:03):
asleep in certain spots in my house and wake up
and be confused as to where I was at the
same if I could have gave your reports back then,
Like I woke up and I was like every time
I wake up in my foot on, I'm like, where
(46:24):
the hell am I? That was that the house with
the Yeah, that was the Koi Pond house. Yeah, I
had some interesting memories from Yeah, that was where I
had the duel with with the crab. I was I
was crabbing wait what and I was put I was
putting off whatever. I was putting all the crabs into
(46:46):
the You know the barrel. Yeah, and this one crab,
this one crab got loose and that happened. And he
was I mean he was he was. He was postured
imposed on me like he was looking up at me.
I was clearly taller than he. He had his pinchers
ready to go, and I was just like hanging from
(47:08):
your belt buckle. I mean, you're actually just going to
my I mean, are you going to Gillett? I mean, y'all,
y'all are so focused who started it? I mean, you
guys are so focused in on my pelvic region. I
mean I don't No, it's Bert to too, not not cute,
(47:32):
but Berto and Jonas so dumb. Well, No, it's good.
Stand anyways. The way the way those crabs walk, dude,
it's it freaks me out every time. That's sad. The
side they just they moved so fast side to side.
You don't expect that. All I know is I get
I'd let that crap go because of the way he
(47:54):
made me feel, the passion behind his eyes and his
pintures that he wanted to survive, and I free the
rest of them. So he basically instead of us going
from old baying him and eating them with some red potatoes.
They were freed into back into the set the Whitehall Creek. Yeah,
I let them all go. More of the story as
(48:16):
as you gotta be a fighter, you gotta hope that
one is willing to fight put it on the line,
and the rest of you well. And also LaVar doesn't
want crabs. It's true. It's like the worst punch line.
You forced talking of your crowbar forced? Do you want crabs?
(48:37):
I love crabs. Actually it's corn. Yeah it was corn.
It was forced. But it's all right, you have crab.
You're acting like a crab in the barrel. How about that.
Stop trying to pull me down, Jonas, that is you.
I saw you look down at these two times when
he was bringing it up joking, meaning that you're dealing
(48:57):
with that issue right now. You have a conflict right now.
You look down at least two three times like dang,
like let me put this on the vall. Can he see?
Can he tell what's going on here? That's why you
went to the bathroom two extra times during the show
to day to pros that comb and that powder out ajax,
(49:23):
whatever it is.
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