December 29, 2022 • 46 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Raiders disrespect Derek Carr by making a business decision and benching him with two games left. Mike McDaniel deserves a lot of credit for recognizing concussion symptoms with Tua but a tougher decision needs to be made to sit him for the season. Senior NFL Reporter for The MMQB, Albert Breer explains how Derek Carr has a month head start on other QB's this offseason, he lays out the pluses and minuses for working with Russell Wilson, forecasts the future for Sean Payton and gives an update on the bidding for the Commanders.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on radio yesterday in the final hour of the program,
we talked about it's just like a little hypothetical, you know,
a little hypothetical. Hey, what if you know, if a
team wanted to make a move in the NFL, they
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wanted to go in a different direction. What if, you know, like,
for example, what if the Raiders decided, you know what,
we've had enough of this whole Derek Carr experience, and
maybe we could save some money if we keep him
healthy towards the end of the season and we don't
have to you know, guarantee is forty million dollars or
whatever it is because of an injury. And then you know,
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if we could we take a little like five point
six million dollar cap hit if we end up dealing him,
but he's got a passive physical Simply just a what
if scenario. What's the plan to finish out the season.
Because Josh McDaniels was a little critical about the passing
game following the Christmas Eve disaster at Acupuncture Stadium in Pittsburgh,
in which Derek Carr through three interceptions, just simple hypothetical question,
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just to what if. Then a few hours later, Joshua
Daniel stepped up to the podium and he had this
to say, I had a good conversation with the quarterbacks
this morning. We're gonna go ahead and and start Jared
on the last couple of games of the season here.
None of us is happy with where we're at, but
we think it's an opportunity to you know, evaluate a
younger player who hasn't had much time to pluck into Derek,
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who was great. You know, he understands, uh, the scenario
that we're in and the situation and um very supportive
of the two young guys that those three guys of
us have worked together hand in hand all year, and
you know he'll do anything he can to help him. Well,
I mean, where do you start, Hey, you gotta follow
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what Q said yesterday. Though right like he said, we
said it when the conversation point came up with Heineke
and went and it's like why do you even bring
it up? And then boom, Josh McDaniels brings up the
quarterback situations like okay, why even bring it up? And
even though it didn't seem believable, you know, foreseeable maybe perceivable. Um,
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he brought it up and and his prex conference and
and so we should have just followed follow what the
standard protocol of we're going to bench our starting quarterback now,
and and that seems to be um how it all
played out. All right, let me lay this out for
you guys. First up, I was dead wrong because look,
Josh mddaniel was traded for me back when he was
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in Denver, and I always felt like, regardless of the circumstances,
he was always trying to be competitive. This is not
that move to be competitive. This is a business move
in two ways. It's a business move to eliminate any
potential chance. They've got to pay the forty point four
million dollars that would be owed to Derek Carr if
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if he couldn't pass a physical. I believe it's three
or four days after the Super Bowl. Okay, so that's
what stated within his contract. So has everything to do
with that, Very similar to why Matt Ryan's not playing Indianapolis.
Even though he's had a bad year, he still gives
them a better chance than the alternatives there. But it's
all about not having to pay him a huge sum
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of money if he can't about pass a physical. So
that's what this is about. And and they obviously can
move on from him after the season, whether it's you know,
releasing him or potentially trading him. And we can get
to that later. But you can't tell me that Derek
Carr doesn't give them the best chance to win football
games and that Jared Stidham gives them a better chance.
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I don't care that Derek Carr's leading the league and
interceptions at fourteen. By the way, right now, fourteen we've
seen guys throw thirty Okay, I mean Jamis Winston led
the league in passing yards and through thirty interceptions. This
doesn't even half that, all right, And and again he's
in the new sys them all that stuff, So let's
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you know, he's played bad. But guess what, he has
been the worst quarterback this year in that division? Has he?
Probably not? I think that title goes to Russell Wilson
this year. So we could say whatever we want about
Derek Carr's play. He's the career leader in passing yards,
in touchdowns. Last year in that place was a flipping circus.
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You know who stepped up in front of mic every
single time. Derek Carr, that's the guy who represented that team.
I think this is such a bad, bad way and
move of handling this and handling him because it's unfair
for everything that he's been through. You know, he's had
the worst defense over his career in Las Vegas, not
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even a number one receiver consistently until this year, and
maybe a Marie Cooper one year, and he's dealt with
all that crap in a bad organization. I hope he
goes somewhere where he's got a chance for success to
see what if he can do it, but too just
at least give him the ability to have a send
off that way, because this is not the way you
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treat a guy who literally reset the record books and
helped you, you know, maintain any sort of competitiveness whatsoever,
given all the lack of help, talent, whatever you wanna
call it around him throughout his career there. So it's
a it's an ugly move, and it obviously keeps them,
you know, not only with the ability to sign a
guy like I don't know, Tom Brady, who's gonna become
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a free agent, but it also gives them a top
ten pick, and if they lose the next two games,
it was squarely give them maybe a top eight pick,
top seven or six pick, depending on how things finish out.
So you can see from the business standpoint why they
did it, But it's so disrespectful to me, to Derek
Carr and everything he's given them. Vic Tafer of The
Athletic reported that his understanding is that Josh McDaniels and
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the front office there when they had come together and
talked about what to do at quarterback, and they wanted
to continue with Derek cars the Star her and this
is more of a Mark Davis move that Mark Davis
stepped in and said, no, we're going to go in
this direction here. So you think that that's true, that
that that's that's because you don't want to take the
blame as a as a you know, coach, because you
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talked with those players more than the owner. The owner
can do whatever they want, they don't, for the most part,
not really have to take those pullets. I I don't
know that I believe a lot of that. That's a
bad look if if that's what it is. Um, here's
my thing, Like I said about coach Slah and how
he handled Zach Wilson's situation. People respect you more if
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they feel like there's some genuineness connected to what it
is that that's taking place. Derek Carr has not played
well and and and that's just it is what it is.
The team has not played well. If if Josh McDaniels
wants to be in preservation self preservation mode or even
team preservation mode by saying I want to, you know,
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identify what we have in our young talent and and
this is the direction we're going in, can't I can't
say I'm I'm terribly like set off by it. And
I guess he did say that. I guess he did
say it, and in his press conference. I'm not terribly
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upset because they're not going to make the playoffs. They
did have a disappointing year. And I think what's more
more in in debate than anything else is if Josh
McDaniels has the ability to be a head coach. I
think that's the biggest question right now, and to make
a move and make a decision that almost in a way,
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it places the disappointment of this season at at your
quarterback's feet. By by benching him the way that you did.
I mean, are you benching everybody else on the team?
You know. The one thing that I've always find to
be kind of curious is, oh, we're gonna bench him
so we can see what our younger talent has. Well,
you have that at every position. So are you going
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to do that with with everybody? Are you gonna do
that with all your starters? Like we're gonna just bench
all our starters. It's been a disappointing year, you know,
we all could have did better. We're we're going to
test out some new talent and see what we have
on this team. We're gonna activate guys off the practice
squad roster. We're just gonna we're gonna play. We're just
gonna play all younger players and see what we have
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on our roster. And in theory, that should be how
you handle a situation like this. It's not pinpointing one position,
the most important position, the leader of your team, the
pillar in your community, the guy who has has been
there and has weathered all the storms with this team.
But that's what he did, and and so to me,
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the team has underperformed. You have underperformed as a coach,
if you're doing self preservation, just you're not gonna say
I'm I'm not doing well as hey, coach, so you
know whatever whatever for the rest of the rest of
the season. Is this is a focal point of placing
the blame solely at Derek Car's feet and saying this
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season didn't go the way that it went because of
poor play by our quarterback. That's what it says to me.
You're you're you're trying to give yourself a little bit
more time by yourself, a little bit more runway if
you're to hey, coach, And what's the move for Car?
Because there's gonna be suitors, correct, I mean, there's gonna
be teams out there. They're gonna be interested in wanting
to acquire Derek car I would imagine, because if you
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look at the other options that are out there, Tom Brady,
he's significantly younger than Brady. He's got, you know, more
more left in the tank, so to speak, than Tom
Brady does like some of the other veteran options that
are out there, it feels like there's gonna be a
market for Derek Carr. But if that's the case, what
what what is the Raiders move here, is it you
go and bringing a Brady or are you trying to
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move up in the draft and try and get one
of these teams who's looking for a quarterback, whether it
be Indianapolis or somebody else that's picking in the top
five of the draft, because you want to take one
of these young quarterbacks. It feels like if that's the
If that's the case, then all of a sudden, whatever
you've been building in Las Vegas now you kinda are
throwing it all in the hands of a younger quarterback.
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I'm just curious to see what their plan is, like
what the move is this offseason for the Raiders as
far as where they go in this direction, because I
can imagine it's probably not gonna be Jared's did hum,
But who knows, maybe he wows him in the final
two games of the regular season. Maybe they want to
roll with Jared's did him. I'm just curious to see
what their move is next to quarterback because if cars
not it after you gave him a contract extension this offseason,
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what's the plan. It just feels like we're we're back
to the same old mess that they've been for the
last twenty years. It just that's that's what stands out
to me in regards to you know, victafor reporting that
what's Mark David's decision, Well, that's two bad decisions that
because you extend to them and now you're just gonna
go ahead and bench them. And and by the way,
for a guy who you know, was was everything for
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this organization last season, which mind you, as a playoff
organization in large part because of him, and took all
the bullets and stood him there for the media and
try to handle everything as best you could with grace.
You know you now just said yeah, you can go home,
like you don't need to be a part of the
steam in the last two weeks, and and maybe Derek
Carr was was so ticked off. He was like, I
don't want to be around you guys. This how you're gonna,
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you know, handle things. And that's what I'm sort of
hearing from some of the guys who've been around the organization.
It's just a bad look, man, It really is. I
think for Mark Davis if that's how he's handling it,
but even for Josh McDaniels, because you'd have to think
that you know him and Ziegler. Obviously, their general manager
had had to have come up and said, hey, Mark,
we want to make sure you're aware of this, and
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and this is the risk that you would run. You know,
by the way we're drafting ninth currently, we we could
be drafting the seven or six s pop if we
lose the next two games. So let's go ahead and
make sure we could do that in order to preserve
our future and what we feel like it's gonna be
best for this roster. I mean, and for a guy
who walks around with doll hair calling it a bad
look for Mark Davis, that's saying something, you know, like
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that really is saying something. So it's unfortunate for Raiders fans.
And and sorry, Burto, I know you're disappointed. Before Burto says,
they think he's gonna say good, get out of here.
You want to want to take guesses what you guys
want to guess? Right, all right, let's guess what Burno
is gonna say. All right, so you got bum Brady,
I'm gonna say about damn time? What do you got LaVar? Oh? No, no, okay,
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I don't know. Well that died on the vine, all right,
So Berta what is it. I don't care. That's kind
of close to what I said. Yeah, so Burto, You're okay,
losing the last two games to get a better draft
kick and they're not gonna make the playoffs. Yeah, I
get I get that, but this so then you lose
the next two games, you get a better draft pick.
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Do you really trust them to draft a guys who
would change the fortune of your franchise or you back
to Brady? Well, uh, it's not John Gruden is doing
the drafting, right, So obviously it was John Gruden the
old administration doing the draft, And yeah, I would definitely
be worried about it. So I want to see what
Brad Zieler can do in the draft. Are you Are
you on the uh the Tom Brady bandwagon? Do you
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think they're getting a side up? I think they're gonna
get Tom Brady or I think it's gonna be Jimmy
g one of those two guys, and then they'll probably
draft the quarterback. What about Josh McDaniels. I'm not on
the job. I'm not on the Josh McDaniels train, but
I want to see what he can do. But I
want to see what I want to see what Brad
Ziegler and him could do in the draft. See how
about that? Trying to be positive? Yeah, Josh McDaniels, his
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track record speaks for itself, but we gotta see what
he does with a different quarterback. What about this though,
You get Brady and you get drunk, and then Gronk
all of a a sudden starts to roll out a new
club in Vegas. Do it? Yeah, you got the whole
grog amply out there, fist pumping, rusting clol t working
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on the statue of Liberty. Uh, New York, New York.
Just I mean, come on, man, Burt, let's make this
happ whole gron Kowski family like ground climbing up the
side of the luxe or and doing like a crowd
dive off it. I mean, come on, this is this
is perfect for the Raiders than you guys might not
win any games perfect. Thank you Derek carn for your service,
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but you were pure trash left. The defense only gave
up eighteen points during that stretch, and they've been they've
been better than last six games. Hey. By the way,
if gron comes in, so now you've got Gronk, you've
got Foster Morrow, and you've got Darren Waller. I mean,
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that's a hell of a three headed monster, and tight
end Adam Hunter renfro Yeah, come on, man, anybody out
there this year. Yeah, but let's not talk about that
Derek Carr, not at all. Let's let's give Derek car
more excuses. Yeah. Years, Yeah, I mean you honestly say,
I'll go as far as eye has injuries, right, everything,
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that they've had the worst defense since Derek car has
been there. That's not even debatable. It's fact. They're thirty
second over the period of time that Derek car has
been there, they've had the worst defense. Yeah. Yeah, let's
let's get their defensive pass. I'm not giving their defensive pass.
And I just saying it's okay, but bo, it's been
the worst defense over his entire career with the Raiders
that he's been there, and then the worst Derek cars
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played in his career, which is not that bad considering again,
other quarterbacks have thrown in the season. But the way,
but can we just say, well we just say also,
by the way, that's a good point. Can we also
give a little bit of credit and a round of
applause that fourteen interceptions is now the leader in the
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NFL because back in the day, really remember Eli Manning
through like twenty two and that was in a shorter season.
Brett Farr through like twenty two. Guys are throwing into
twenties all the time. Four teens were at four teams were.
By the way, it's gonna be where we end at
least for car because he's not playing the last Go
look at Aaron Rodgers stats right now and compared with
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Derek carrs they're not you can get for Derek Carr
about him not. It's a new system. How come mag
Jones was good last year and as a rookie under
that system on there Josh mc daniels, was he good
that last year, but he was better than all those
other rookie quarterbacks. He played pretty well in it. But
they also had a lot of things going for them.
Were they running the football better last year? Too? Was
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their offensive wasn't their offensive line play? But watch off
like the lee in the league. Yeah, And also the
Raiders offensive line was actually worse laster than it is
this year. He's been stacked more times last year. I'm
asking the question though, that wasn't wasn't the Patriots offense
better last year, But was it due to a lot
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of other things too that they had a more consistent
running game, better offensive line play. I think the whole
thing is unfortunate. I mean, I don't even care that
the like six games ago. Yeah, and that's the most
important thing here. All right, let's started wasting eight dollars
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The Miami Dolphins have made a decision. Not the most
surprising storyline here based on the recent events of two
Ottacko Byloa and the concussion protocol, etcetera, etcetera, and this
is the second known time he's at a concussion this season,
but Mike McDaniel made the announcement that there will be
a new starting quarterback this week for the Dolphins. Here
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was the Dolphins head coach. The whole idea of taking
day to day is kind of rough on coaches who
have to plan for you know, a bunch of people.
So the approach that I'm unequivocally taken today. You know,
I was on the phone. I met with him yesterday.
I met with Teddy yesterday. I was exchanging ideas and
talking through some stuff all the way until like ten
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fifteen last night. Um, there was his bedtime and so
moving forward today and you know the whole team's approaches, Uh,
Teddy Bridgewater as the starter. So there it is, Teddy
Bridgewater will start for the Dolphins with Uh. It was
a bit. Uh, we just exchanged ideas and unequivocally we
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came to glee and come on, it just gets me
every time bad. That's that's hipster laning. That's hipster lingo. Man,
I could guarantee you if we asked him offline, bro,
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are you a hipster? I could guarantee you his answer
be yes. You think gay coach, But I'm a hipster. First.
I don't think hipsters can be football coaches players, you
think so. I think McVeigh is a hipster. A hipster.
I mean he's, you know, maybe a little fashion forward.
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I don't know if he's a hipster though. When I
think hipster, I think Beanie I think Doc Martin boots,
I think you know flannels. Yeah, you might might throw
that in there too. That makes you a hipster, No, no, no,
but it can be a part of your attire. You
can you can be a hipster with some Lulu lemons on.
You could get away with it. That's not that's not
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all the way down the lane of hipster. But you
know it's there's a look, there's definitely, I mean, hipster
is a look. I mean some would say Robert Salo's
got a hipster to hm because he wears that long beanie.
She only coach in the league that wears a long beanie,
like one of those slouch beanies, as opposed to just
the old school hipster. Just saying if we're talking fashion,
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this is the important stuff we gotta break down here.
Might be right, though I don't. I don't want to
discredit your your claim. But Mike McDaniel, and and and
and while we're on the conversation, point right, I mean,
could they have done anything differently? I mean, honestly, what
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with to a situation are you like? If you play him,
what what are you know? What are the ramifications you know,
taking that chance? And maybe maybe you shouldn't have to
take these things into consideration. Maybe in a perfect world
you can say, all right, you know, he's clear to play.
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He's clear protocols, so if if we need them, we're
going to use them. Like we're going to clear him
to play, we're gonna play him. But I just get
the feeling that the pressure would be overwhelmingly uncomfortable, and
and the scrutiny and and the backlash of him playing
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based off of having his second concussion probably holds more
weight than playing him even if he were clear to play. Yeah,
they're in a tough spot. And and I don't know,
I mean, like the idea and also you get the
NFL p A is going to look into the handling
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of this. And it just goes back to what we've
talked about before. If to us says he's fine and
he's not showing symptoms during the game, what are they
supposed to do? Like, I don't like, I don't understand
why why they should be held accountable. It's like you had,
you had the outrage the first time around where they
had to fire the independent neurologists or whatever that guy's
responsibility was. Well, here we are again, and he went
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out and he finished the game supposedly after he suffered
this concussion, but nobody knew anything, Like they weren't talking
about it during the broadcast. They weren't. So the the
idea that the Dolphins should be be responsible and held
accountable if this stuff happens. I just I don't understand that.
I don't I don't get how that works. You know,
Mike McDaniel should get a lot more credit for being
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the one to catch it. He's the one that reportedly
told to would go see a doctor. They're in a
film session together on Monday, and based on to his
responses to him, he said, this is not normal protocol. Usually,
he's he's better working through this talking about this. You
need to go see someone. Something sums off. So it's
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good that at least Mike McDaniel was able to identify it.
I know a lot of people weren't, you know, happy
with with how things went down previously. Obviously, the independent
neurologist sends up taking the fall for everyone there, but
he does care. He obviously trying to look out for
the best interest of two and it's it's why they've
thrown the towel on this week's him. Now next week
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is really really gets interesting because there's a chance to
is cleared. And I think the question would be, since
this is his second concussion, some would say it's his third,
right because everyone thought the week before the initial concussion
took place, he got concussed, right, and that's what led
to the outrage in the following week's game where he
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got knocked out. So some would say he's already had
you know, three this year based on the one that
wasn't diagnosed, or you know he ended up playing after
and now he's gotten too, So what happens if you
have another next week, if he's clear to play, Like
that's that's the slippery slope that we're on here. You're
talking about a player that could end up maybe you know,
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deciding that in the off season or depending on how
things go, like this isn't worth it. It's not worth
all these head injuries for my long term life down
the road. Um, I mean there could even be an
issue in moving forward. The team can't commit to him.
And this isn't the sound crude, but the reality is
if he gets one more, maybe he is done, you know,
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for the rest of his career. So It's a hard
spot for all parties to be in, and it's hard
for players because you know, you've got a warrior mentality
out there, and as a leader, you want to be
out there. He wants to be out there. I mean,
he wants this is as good a football as to
has played in his NFL career. He's now got the
chance potentially go to the playoffs, and he's got a
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coach that loves him and has helped. I mean, you
don't think he wants to start and play for this team,
and you're the thing he loves. Like people think it's
an easy decision. It's not like you try to play
through other injuries all the time, and so mentally you're thinking,
I can play through this too. Even though it is
interesting if you go back and and I guess the
supposed play that caused the concussion, there is a significant
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drop off in his play from that point moving forward
in the game. So take that for what it's worth
in regards to last week's performance. But I just, you know,
I think there's a lot on the line for him personally,
for the franchise, everything else beyond just this season's you know,
goal of getting the playoffs. And trying to make a run.
And there's also like people forget that the injury he
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suffered at Alabama, the hip issue, there was some talk
that his career could have been done then, like there
was no guarantee he was going to be able to
come back because of the significance of the injury. So
then he works and works himself back. He becomes a
starting quarterback, he's a top five pick, and then he's
got a coach who basically airs him out in Brian Flores.
Finally he gets somebody who rallies around him. They add
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pieces around him. Hell, yes, he wants to be out there.
That's that's why he hasn't self reported during these games
when when it when he probably should have spoken up
and said, hey, there's something going on here. So I
just I feel like the Dolphins are kind of in
this tough spot because you know, he wants to be
out there and he wants to play, and he's already
made that choice and come to that understanding as a player.
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But who was in the tough spot to or Miami?
I think I think two is because you know, this decision,
like if he makes the decision to say, like I
can't come back and play this year because of my
my personal health and my long term health. I feel
like he's gonna feel like everyone's gonna hate him. And
you know how it is too when you're out with
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an injury, like no one cares, no one wants to
be around you, like everyone's moving on the next guy,
and it's just it's a tough spot to being personally,
especially if you know they feel like, hey, look, if
you feel like you can go, go, Like I feel
like he's in a tough spot because he might have
to weigh his potential personal well being over the well
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being of the team, since, at least based on how
things have worked out this season, when he's the starter,
they have a chance of winning. Their offense is entirely different.
You guys that know this better than I would. If
is he more likely to suffer another concussion if he
comes back next week or okay, so then he should
probably sit out the rest of the year. Yeah, I
mean that. That's that's one of the reasons why you
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look at why he's able to suffer a concussion this
past week. You're more susceptible to it. Once you have one,
you're more susceptible to it, especially that short time frame.
I think he's a sympathetic figure. So if he sits
out the rest of the season, I think it's more
he's more in jeopardy of of losing his his job
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as as a quarterback, because I don't know that for
the sake of caring about him as a person, that
you want to go that direction again during the course
of an entire season. I'll say, do you do you
feel like he's in jeopardy regardless? Yes, And and this
makes it even It jeopardizes him way way more because
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now you're not talking about the merits of his game.
You're talking about if if I can live with myself,
if this guy goes out here and gets hit and
it messes him up for the rest of his life, well,
that's something you got to take into consideration. You ask
me that question, do you feel like the organizations in
a tougher spot for that predicament, because if they put
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them out there and it happens, it's on their watch,
I think they're I think they're in a tougher predicament
because sometimes you have to protect a guy from themselves.
And and like you know, Jonas was saying, like he
didn't want to report it. He was ready to play.
He wanted to play. Well, what does that look like
if he gets out there? He cleared protocol and he
gets out there and it's worse than the one we
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saw that that showed up the first time. You know,
I just think that that puts Mike McDaniel and in
a tough situation, and probably the toughest for him. It's
probably the toughest for him because you're you, you have
an opportunity to have a good year um and and
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continue it on and and at the same time, you
know the severity of what could happen after having suffrage
your second concussion and that's this I can concussion that
we're speaking of Q you know, you know for it
ain't too it's not two. There's there's there have been
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more scenarios play out with him than just the two
that we know about. So and whether it's all the
way concussion or whatever it is, you can just tell like, like,
that's not normal to hear hear somebody say he had
to report him or tell him to go see somebody
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because of the way he's reacting in meetings. That's not good.
That's not good. That's not everyday lingo. You know, I
could see a guy limping around and be like, bro,
like go get that checked out. What is it hang
now or what like? That's different. You see a guy
limping around, that's different. But when you're talking about I
can noticeably tell that you need to go get checked out. Mentally,
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that ain't good man, That just ain't. That doesn't sit well.
And that's a that that is a that is a true
dilemma because where does science of you clearing protocol versus
you taking a humanistic approach to how you you because
sometimes you gotta protect your guys. Where is the fine
line he wanted to play he cleared protocol, we're playing
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him boom. Now he's laying on the ground and he
ain't getting up. Imagine that playing out. Yeah, I think
that's pretty That's a pretty compromising position to be in,
and I I just don't think I would be willing
to take that risk. I look at too and be like, Bro,
you're a sympathetic figure. People love you. Let's just get
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to the offseason. Let's let's get you as help as
we possibly can with with how you're feeling. Get a
plan moving forward, and and hope for the best, but
just know another concussion on my watch. I can't play you, Doc,
that's next season two. I just I just can't play you.
That means the last two times, if the Dolphins were
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to make the play else, did that backup quarterback starting
the walk cart round? Yeah, I remember the last one
to Matt Moore. He got annimated. Like this organization short
term with concussions, he always got decapitated. Did he finish
that game? By the way he came back in that
was Jesus Man for people, he and he By the
way he looked concussed, that was one remember he was.
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I mean there was some bad play down the stretcher
like that. Dude doesn't look right. And for anybody who
thinks the NFL still has a long way to go
with their concussion handling, go back to that game and
asked yourself, why was Matt Moore still in the game? Like,
why did he Why was he? That was against Pittsburgh. Yeah,
he got destroyed. I've got to forget drill bail it.
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Oh you know who it was. It was bud Dupree.
I think it was bud Dupree, wasn't it. Yeah, he
got destroyed. I was gonna go Carnel Lake, but again
just talking, you know, just four one two here, Vin,
We're doing here, Earl Holmes, Earl Holmes. Got be sure
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to the man himself, Albert Brier, senior NFL reporter at
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Albert Brier Albert Daffy. Thursday to you hope all as well.
I'm good. I'm good. How you got John? You're good
just hanging out, man. What's your Christmas? Albert? Yeah, come on,
I was good, It was good. It was good. I
got the kids kid the PlayStation five, so I got
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to be fifteen years old again, which was cool. And yeah,
so you really got it for you kind of Well,
I mean, I I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
say that. I uh, you know, I'm excited to get
my kids n c A when that comes out again,
you know, and it's excited to get them Madden. And yeah, yeah,
I uh, I think I think it was a great
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gift for them, Brady. So I got I got a
question for you if you're if you start playing Madden
next year, what team is Derek are going to be on? Well,
first of all, Madden is really freaking complicated now. It's
not the same as it was. And uh, guys, I
I think like the this has sort of been in
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the worst for a while. Um and I think what's
interesting about where this goes next is just the number
of arterbacks are gonna be available, you know. And you know,
I think Jimmy Garoppolo is another one where um, you know,
you tie both those guys to the Jets. Both those
guys have experience in the background in the system the
Jets run. Um. You know, Jimmy obviously could wind up
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going to the Raiders, and so you know, I I
think right now, UM, you're starting to see where we're
gonna have a fair amount of quarterback movement in general again.
And so, um, the upside for Derek Carr here is
that he's going to get a jump on the market
because of the way his contract is structured. Um that
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you know that that that money, that forty four million
dollars vests in the middle of February, three days after
the Super Bowl. So Derek Carr is essentially gonna get
a one month head start on everybody. So if you're
a team like the Jets, you know, and you're saying,
we gotta bring in competition for Zack Wilson or we
gotta replace Jack Wilson, do you take the burden to
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hand over to the bush? You know? Do you take
a car um in February so you know who you've
got and you can go forward and build with them,
or do you wait for Jimmy Garoppolo in March? You know,
I think that that's what's interesting about it is that
Derek Carr is gonna have a one month head start
on everybody on the quarterback market. Do you think more
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quarterbacks should put that in their contract? The timing of it,
it seems like it's it's a little bit of maybe obviously,
as you said, it like an advantage to get on
the market, but it seems it's a smart move in
general for both the player and the team to be
able to find more clarity this time of year where
you can say, hey, we don't want the guy to
get hurt and have to own him that money, and
obviously if you're gonna move on, might as well move
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on and figure out a destination for him And who's
the right guy for us? Yeah, Brady, I think it'd
be optiable for any player, honestly. I mean, and we've
seen the late triggers before too, right Like if you
guys remember Colin Kaepernick had I think they were April
triggers in his contract, where like the Niners could literally
like wait the quarterback market out through March, see what
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they might have, and then make a later decision on
Colin Kaepernick. So these things have been sort of elements
and contracts for a while. Um, and I think for
Derek Carr, a huge part of it was, well, if
you're not going to guarantee me the money, then you
at least need to let me know early on. So
when they did it, it it was sort of a compromise
you know where um, you know, I think the Raiders
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you know from our office basically said well, because of
our cash flow issues, we don't want to have to
fund fifty or sixty million dollars, and you know, Carside
came back and said, well, if we're gonna expose ourselves
to that sort of risk where you're not gonna guarantee
anything past year one, you're gonna give yourself the out, well,
then you've gotta let us know ahead of time. So
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that's sort of how that one worked out rightly, where
it was, you know, compromising the fully guaranteed money and
if you're gonna make us do that, then you've got
to give us an easier path to the market. So
I'm sure if you if you want the clock back, um,
you know, nine months, and asked Derek carrback then, he'd
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take the full of guaranteed money over the early trigger.
The early trigger was sort of the compromise. Let's let's
stay with quarterbacks and and move over to Denver. What
what is what's next in Denver? I mean, I know
Sean Payton's name is is out there, but I mean
who who will take this? Is this considered to be
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a volatile situation to step into because of Russell Wilson.
There are pluses and minds is too. I mean, I
think one thing that's a big plus is like what
the structure is going to be like in the resources
of ownership. There has um you know, I I for
everything that's gone wrong this year, I do think there's
a feeling the Waltons are going to be good owners
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and that Greg Tenner um the CEO, and you know
Cole owner, He's gonna do a good job in that role.
And obviously you know the ability to spend on staff
and facilities and and and players like everything that you
have everything you need there. But there's the albatross to
the quarterback in his contract, and so that's just really
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interesting about this one. LaVar is like, is this Sean
Payton gonna want to go there? Like, if you're Sean Payton,
you know I probably am only gonna do this one
more time, right, do you want to hit your wagon
to Russell Wilson? And I think the answer is probably no,
you know. And I think what's gonna be difficult about
that for the new Broncos ownership is I think the
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main thing here is finding somebody who can stand up
to Russell Wilson and not just stand up to him,
but have the leverage to play a feed feed in
the ground and stay there, you know. And so that's why,
like I think, you know, you have to look at
somebody who's either been a head coach before, who has
been a prominent player in the league. And that's where
I think like a Dan Quinn or Jim Harbaugh would
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make sense there. That's where I think, you know, even
look at Amiko Ryan or a Gerard Mayo would make sense.
Like they've already tried the young offensive guru route and
Russell quite frankly walked all over, walked walked all over
that walked all over to Sandel Hackey, you know. So
I think the main thing now finding somebody who's got
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the ability to leverage the strength to stand up to
Russell Wilson and tell him no on a bunch of
things and Um, the hard thing about that is a
lot of guys who do have that sort of leverage,
you do have that kind of strength, aren't gonna want
to go there because of Russell Wilson. So that's where
I think you have to sort of figure things out.
Greg Penner the Broncos. Albert Brier joining us here on
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Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter at the m MQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. Speaking
of Sean Payton. So we've heard rumblings about you know,
the Rams, the Chargers, the Cowboys, is like all the
and the more you start looking at a lot of
these places, like there's no guarantee that some of these
jobs are going to be open. So where's a realistic
destination for Sean Payton at this point in time? Him?
(40:01):
You know, I think if like he gave truth serum
a month ago and asked him where he would have
wanted to go, would have been the Charters because of
the location, because of the quarterback. Um, you know, obviously
now they're in the playoffs, that's probably not happening. You know, Um,
I I do think, you know, provided Matthew Stafford doesn't
reverse course and I know Matthew Staffords told people in
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that building he's coming back. Fore Um, I think Sean
McVeigh will be back for another year. Not certain, but
I think he will be back for another year. And
that sort of leaves to me, like the Cardinals, the Broncos,
and in both those places, the questions if you want
to hitch his while into those quarterbacks, and I think
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that's where the idea of New Orleans comes up again,
and I don't think it's gonna happen. I think Dennis
Allen's probably back for a second year. But I do
think it's interesting that that speculation hasn't been stamped out
by anybody yet, you know, so I think that's just
sort of one worth mirth worth monitoring. Was I think
now the very real and growing possibility that he spends
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another year at fought and wait until for the right
one to come along. I was gonna just kind of
explore the Saints possibility, only because I know they have
their rights, so no matter what he does, if he
comes back, they have to trade him. They have to
figure that out. But I mean, how would Dennis Allen
handle that? It sounds like, you know, Sean Payton already
has maybe Vic Fangio tabbed as his defensive coordinator. This
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All Stars, All Stars staff we keep hearing about, which
I'm sure makes current head coaches at those places that
our potential destinations feel great. Um. But I mean, I
assume Dennis Allen would just be like, Okay, I'm stepping
aside and letting this new staff and Sean Payton come back.
If that was that was the case, it'd be weird too,
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because he's not. You know. The funny thing about this
is I do think I do think Sean feels a
little awkward about it, you know, the way all this
and you know with people. I mean, he's friends with
some of these guys, you know, but I mean he's there.
I mean, like I think he does. I like, honestly,
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like I just tell you, I think there is a
little bit of an awkwardness to a for him. But again,
like he's not stamping it out right, like he's not like,
you know, he's not going he's got a for him.
He's not going on the air in box and saying,
you know, like like no, I'm not doing that. And
you know, obviously it's very close to Dennis Allen. Dennis
Allend coached under him twice, you know, in New Orleans,
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and he grew m downis Allend for that job? So
I'm I mean, yeah, it is really weird. And I think,
like to something great, Brady, we all knew we were
gonna be here anyway, right Like I think when when
Sean walked away last year, uh in January, I think
we all knew, like eleven twelve months down the line,
like Sean Payton would be hovering over every opening the
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way the way it is right now. Um. But yeah,
I mean I I it's certainly awkward, and I think
it can't be comfortable if you're somebody in that New
Orleans organization who co stunder hum for all those years. Now,
seeing all these headlines out there, I got one more
for you, Albert, Um, the Hugs, the Hogs are are
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going after Dad Snyder and and the Washington commanders. I mean,
is this is this the proverbial nail in the coffin?
So to speak with with Dan? I mean, I still
think he's going to try to get out of selling
its team. Um, but it seems like every time things
kind of kind of settled down or you know, get
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a little quiet, something else happens and this is a
big something else. Yeah. You know what though, are I
think in these sources of situations, you always follow the money,
and um, you know, I always feel like I think
that there is that element of Snyder maybe being you know,
Lucy pulling the foot football all the way at the
very end and saying, no, I'm keeping the team. Um.
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And I think like his way of doing that was
gonna be setting the price exponentially high and then and
then hoping that nobody would match it. Um. If it's
true what Forbes reported at the end of last week,
and I haven't independently verified every one of the bids,
but if it's true that there are several bids that
are well over seven billion dollars, then I think it's
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over because I think if, like, if the bidding gets
over seven billion dollars and you have multiple suitors over
seven billion dollars, there's gonna be exponential pressure to sell
from other owners, you know, and you other owners gonna
look at that and say, this is an opportunity for
us to reset the market for our teams. This is
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an opportunity for us to rid ourselves of Dan Snyder.
And so I think like his plan all along here,
to some degree at least, was to set the price
so exponentially high that you could say, no one's gonna
match it. And I think where the bidding seems to
be going now is sort of ruining that plan for him.
And so I would think at the bidding is where
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everybody where people are saying it is, and this thing
is probably over Albert before we let you go. We
got about minute left here, and again, like, I know
what you're thinking. All right, it's just gonna go back
to the same old Ohio State six and a half
point underdogs, the over under at sixty two and a half.
This has nothing to do with gambling. I was just curious,
do you do you envision c. J. Stroud throwing for
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more than two and seventy nine and a half yards
in this game against Georgia coming up? Do you think
or what? Well? I just I mean, based on everything
I've heard, I hope our guys just get their their shoes,
lay stuff right and get there, because there you get
their ankles tape and and and get out there and
play right. I mean, have you heard like a lot
of people, have you heard a lot of people doubting
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the buck Eys or something. What's going on here. I
decided that I'm going to keep a low profile for
this one. Didn't work out for me, h five six
weeks ago. Yeah, talking around, Yeah, you thought you thought
you had that one in the bag against Michigan. How
about this the sc one in three so far in
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Bowl games. So yeah, I mean that's I guess that's
I guess that's encouraging. But I mean George's um. George
has got a lot of dude, so I'll put it
that way. So I, uh, yeah, I think I think
it's best if I keep a low profile ahead of
this one, and then maybe you'll see a tacock in
a few days. So there it is. Albert. We appreciate
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it again. Get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. Have
a good week, have a good weekend. We'll do it
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It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on radio yesterday in the final hour of the program,
we talked about it's just like a little hypothetical, you know,
a little hypothetical. Hey, what if you know, if a
team wanted to make a move in the NFL, they
(00:23):
wanted to go in a different direction. What if, you know, like,
for example, what if the Raiders decided, you know what,
we've had enough of this whole Derek Carr experience, and
maybe we could save some money if we keep him
healthy towards the end of the season and we don't
have to you know, guarantee is forty million dollars or
whatever it is because of an injury. And then you know,
(00:45):
if we could we take a little like five point
six million dollar cap hit if we end up dealing him,
but he's got a passive physical Simply just a what
if scenario. What's the plan to finish out the season.
Because Josh McDaniels was a little critical about the passing
game following the Christmas Eve disaster at Acupuncture Stadium in Pittsburgh,
in which Derek Carr through three interceptions, just simple hypothetical question,
(01:07):
just to what if. Then a few hours later, Joshua
Daniel stepped up to the podium and he had this
to say, I had a good conversation with the quarterbacks
this morning. We're gonna go ahead and and start Jared
on the last couple of games of the season here.
None of us is happy with where we're at, but
we think it's an opportunity to you know, evaluate a
younger player who hasn't had much time to pluck into Derek,
(01:30):
who was great. You know, he understands, uh, the scenario
that we're in and the situation and um very supportive
of the two young guys that those three guys of
us have worked together hand in hand all year, and
you know he'll do anything he can to help him. Well,
I mean, where do you start, Hey, you gotta follow
(01:53):
what Q said yesterday. Though right like he said, we
said it when the conversation point came up with Heineke
and went and it's like why do you even bring
it up? And then boom, Josh McDaniels brings up the
quarterback situations like okay, why even bring it up? And
even though it didn't seem believable, you know, foreseeable maybe perceivable. Um,
(02:17):
he brought it up and and his prex conference and
and so we should have just followed follow what the
standard protocol of we're going to bench our starting quarterback now,
and and that seems to be um how it all
played out. All right, let me lay this out for
you guys. First up, I was dead wrong because look,
Josh mddaniel was traded for me back when he was
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in Denver, and I always felt like, regardless of the circumstances,
he was always trying to be competitive. This is not
that move to be competitive. This is a business move
in two ways. It's a business move to eliminate any
potential chance. They've got to pay the forty point four
million dollars that would be owed to Derek Carr if
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if he couldn't pass a physical. I believe it's three
or four days after the Super Bowl. Okay, so that's
what stated within his contract. So has everything to do
with that, Very similar to why Matt Ryan's not playing Indianapolis.
Even though he's had a bad year, he still gives
them a better chance than the alternatives there. But it's
all about not having to pay him a huge sum
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of money if he can't about pass a physical. So
that's what this is about. And and they obviously can
move on from him after the season, whether it's you know,
releasing him or potentially trading him. And we can get
to that later. But you can't tell me that Derek
Carr doesn't give them the best chance to win football
games and that Jared Stidham gives them a better chance.
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I don't care that Derek Carr's leading the league and
interceptions at fourteen. By the way, right now, fourteen we've
seen guys throw thirty Okay, I mean Jamis Winston led
the league in passing yards and through thirty interceptions. This
doesn't even half that, all right, And and again he's
in the new sys them all that stuff, So let's
(04:02):
you know, he's played bad. But guess what, he has
been the worst quarterback this year in that division? Has he?
Probably not? I think that title goes to Russell Wilson
this year. So we could say whatever we want about
Derek Carr's play. He's the career leader in passing yards,
in touchdowns. Last year in that place was a flipping circus.
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You know who stepped up in front of mic every
single time. Derek Carr, that's the guy who represented that team.
I think this is such a bad, bad way and
move of handling this and handling him because it's unfair
for everything that he's been through. You know, he's had
the worst defense over his career in Las Vegas, not
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even a number one receiver consistently until this year, and
maybe a Marie Cooper one year, and he's dealt with
all that crap in a bad organization. I hope he
goes somewhere where he's got a chance for success to
see what if he can do it, but too just
at least give him the ability to have a send
off that way, because this is not the way you
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treat a guy who literally reset the record books and
helped you, you know, maintain any sort of competitiveness whatsoever,
given all the lack of help, talent, whatever you wanna
call it around him throughout his career there. So it's
a it's an ugly move, and it obviously keeps them,
you know, not only with the ability to sign a
guy like I don't know, Tom Brady, who's gonna become
(05:26):
a free agent, but it also gives them a top
ten pick, and if they lose the next two games,
it was squarely give them maybe a top eight pick,
top seven or six pick, depending on how things finish out.
So you can see from the business standpoint why they
did it, But it's so disrespectful to me, to Derek
Carr and everything he's given them. Vic Tafer of The
Athletic reported that his understanding is that Josh McDaniels and
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the front office there when they had come together and
talked about what to do at quarterback, and they wanted
to continue with Derek cars the Star her and this
is more of a Mark Davis move that Mark Davis
stepped in and said, no, we're going to go in
this direction here. So you think that that's true, that
that that's that's because you don't want to take the
blame as a as a you know, coach, because you
(06:13):
talked with those players more than the owner. The owner
can do whatever they want, they don't, for the most part,
not really have to take those pullets. I I don't
know that I believe a lot of that. That's a
bad look if if that's what it is. Um, here's
my thing, Like I said about coach Slah and how
he handled Zach Wilson's situation. People respect you more if
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they feel like there's some genuineness connected to what it
is that that's taking place. Derek Carr has not played
well and and and that's just it is what it is.
The team has not played well. If if Josh McDaniels
wants to be in preservation self preservation mode or even
team preservation mode by saying I want to, you know,
(07:00):
identify what we have in our young talent and and
this is the direction we're going in, can't I can't
say I'm I'm terribly like set off by it. And
I guess he did say that. I guess he did
say it, and in his press conference. I'm not terribly
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upset because they're not going to make the playoffs. They
did have a disappointing year. And I think what's more
more in in debate than anything else is if Josh
McDaniels has the ability to be a head coach. I
think that's the biggest question right now, and to make
a move and make a decision that almost in a way,
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it places the disappointment of this season at at your
quarterback's feet. By by benching him the way that you did.
I mean, are you benching everybody else on the team?
You know. The one thing that I've always find to
be kind of curious is, oh, we're gonna bench him
so we can see what our younger talent has. Well,
you have that at every position. So are you going
(08:07):
to do that with with everybody? Are you gonna do
that with all your starters? Like we're gonna just bench
all our starters. It's been a disappointing year, you know,
we all could have did better. We're we're going to
test out some new talent and see what we have
on this team. We're gonna activate guys off the practice
squad roster. We're just gonna we're gonna play. We're just
gonna play all younger players and see what we have
(08:28):
on our roster. And in theory, that should be how
you handle a situation like this. It's not pinpointing one position,
the most important position, the leader of your team, the
pillar in your community, the guy who has has been
there and has weathered all the storms with this team.
But that's what he did, and and so to me,
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the team has underperformed. You have underperformed as a coach,
if you're doing self preservation, just you're not gonna say
I'm I'm not doing well as hey, coach, so you
know whatever whatever for the rest of the rest of
the season. Is this is a focal point of placing
the blame solely at Derek Car's feet and saying this
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season didn't go the way that it went because of
poor play by our quarterback. That's what it says to me.
You're you're you're trying to give yourself a little bit
more time by yourself, a little bit more runway if
you're to hey, coach, And what's the move for Car?
Because there's gonna be suitors, correct, I mean, there's gonna
be teams out there. They're gonna be interested in wanting
to acquire Derek car I would imagine, because if you
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look at the other options that are out there, Tom Brady,
he's significantly younger than Brady. He's got, you know, more
more left in the tank, so to speak, than Tom
Brady does like some of the other veteran options that
are out there, it feels like there's gonna be a
market for Derek Carr. But if that's the case, what
what what is the Raiders move here, is it you
go and bringing a Brady or are you trying to
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move up in the draft and try and get one
of these teams who's looking for a quarterback, whether it
be Indianapolis or somebody else that's picking in the top
five of the draft, because you want to take one
of these young quarterbacks. It feels like if that's the
If that's the case, then all of a sudden, whatever
you've been building in Las Vegas now you kinda are
throwing it all in the hands of a younger quarterback.
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I'm just curious to see what their plan is, like
what the move is this offseason for the Raiders as
far as where they go in this direction, because I
can imagine it's probably not gonna be Jared's did hum,
But who knows, maybe he wows him in the final
two games of the regular season. Maybe they want to
roll with Jared's did him. I'm just curious to see
what their move is next to quarterback because if cars
not it after you gave him a contract extension this offseason,
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what's the plan. It just feels like we're we're back
to the same old mess that they've been for the
last twenty years. It just that's that's what stands out
to me in regards to you know, victafor reporting that
what's Mark David's decision, Well, that's two bad decisions that
because you extend to them and now you're just gonna
go ahead and bench them. And and by the way,
for a guy who you know, was was everything for
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this organization last season, which mind you, as a playoff
organization in large part because of him, and took all
the bullets and stood him there for the media and
try to handle everything as best you could with grace.
You know you now just said yeah, you can go home,
like you don't need to be a part of the
steam in the last two weeks, and and maybe Derek
Carr was was so ticked off. He was like, I
don't want to be around you guys. This how you're gonna,
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you know, handle things. And that's what I'm sort of
hearing from some of the guys who've been around the organization.
It's just a bad look, man, It really is. I
think for Mark Davis if that's how he's handling it,
but even for Josh McDaniels, because you'd have to think
that you know him and Ziegler. Obviously, their general manager
had had to have come up and said, hey, Mark,
we want to make sure you're aware of this, and
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and this is the risk that you would run. You know,
by the way we're drafting ninth currently, we we could
be drafting the seven or six s pop if we
lose the next two games. So let's go ahead and
make sure we could do that in order to preserve
our future and what we feel like it's gonna be
best for this roster. I mean, and for a guy
who walks around with doll hair calling it a bad
look for Mark Davis, that's saying something, you know, like
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that really is saying something. So it's unfortunate for Raiders fans.
And and sorry, Burto, I know you're disappointed. Before Burto says,
they think he's gonna say good, get out of here.
You want to want to take guesses what you guys
want to guess? Right, all right, let's guess what Burno
is gonna say. All right, so you got bum Brady,
I'm gonna say about damn time? What do you got LaVar? Oh? No, no, okay,
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I don't know. Well that died on the vine, all right,
So Berta what is it. I don't care. That's kind
of close to what I said. Yeah, so Burto, You're okay,
losing the last two games to get a better draft
kick and they're not gonna make the playoffs. Yeah, I
get I get that, but this so then you lose
the next two games, you get a better draft pick.
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Do you really trust them to draft a guys who
would change the fortune of your franchise or you back
to Brady? Well, uh, it's not John Gruden is doing
the drafting, right, So obviously it was John Gruden the
old administration doing the draft, And yeah, I would definitely
be worried about it. So I want to see what
Brad Zieler can do in the draft. Are you Are
you on the uh the Tom Brady bandwagon? Do you
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think they're getting a side up? I think they're gonna
get Tom Brady or I think it's gonna be Jimmy
g one of those two guys, and then they'll probably
draft the quarterback. What about Josh McDaniels. I'm not on
the job. I'm not on the Josh McDaniels train, but
I want to see what he can do. But I
want to see what I want to see what Brad
Ziegler and him could do in the draft. See how
about that? Trying to be positive? Yeah, Josh McDaniels, his
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track record speaks for itself, but we gotta see what
he does with a different quarterback. What about this though,
You get Brady and you get drunk, and then Gronk
all of a a sudden starts to roll out a new
club in Vegas. Do it? Yeah, you got the whole
grog amply out there, fist pumping, rusting clol t working
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on the statue of Liberty. Uh, New York, New York.
Just I mean, come on, man, Burt, let's make this
happ whole gron Kowski family like ground climbing up the
side of the luxe or and doing like a crowd
dive off it. I mean, come on, this is this
is perfect for the Raiders than you guys might not
win any games perfect. Thank you Derek carn for your service,
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but you were pure trash left. The defense only gave
up eighteen points during that stretch, and they've been they've
been better than last six games. Hey. By the way,
if gron comes in, so now you've got Gronk, you've
got Foster Morrow, and you've got Darren Waller. I mean,
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that's a hell of a three headed monster, and tight
end Adam Hunter renfro Yeah, come on, man, anybody out
there this year. Yeah, but let's not talk about that
Derek Carr, not at all. Let's let's give Derek car
more excuses. Yeah. Years, Yeah, I mean you honestly say,
I'll go as far as eye has injuries, right, everything,
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that they've had the worst defense since Derek car has
been there. That's not even debatable. It's fact. They're thirty
second over the period of time that Derek car has
been there, they've had the worst defense. Yeah. Yeah, let's
let's get their defensive pass. I'm not giving their defensive pass.
And I just saying it's okay, but bo, it's been
the worst defense over his entire career with the Raiders
that he's been there, and then the worst Derek cars
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played in his career, which is not that bad considering again,
other quarterbacks have thrown in the season. But the way,
but can we just say, well we just say also,
by the way, that's a good point. Can we also
give a little bit of credit and a round of
applause that fourteen interceptions is now the leader in the
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NFL because back in the day, really remember Eli Manning
through like twenty two and that was in a shorter season.
Brett Farr through like twenty two. Guys are throwing into
twenties all the time. Four teens were at four teams were.
By the way, it's gonna be where we end at
least for car because he's not playing the last Go
look at Aaron Rodgers stats right now and compared with
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Derek carrs they're not you can get for Derek Carr
about him not. It's a new system. How come mag
Jones was good last year and as a rookie under
that system on there Josh mc daniels, was he good
that last year, but he was better than all those
other rookie quarterbacks. He played pretty well in it. But
they also had a lot of things going for them.
Were they running the football better last year? Too? Was
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their offensive wasn't their offensive line play? But watch off
like the lee in the league. Yeah, And also the
Raiders offensive line was actually worse laster than it is
this year. He's been stacked more times last year. I'm
asking the question though, that wasn't wasn't the Patriots offense
better last year, But was it due to a lot
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of other things too that they had a more consistent
running game, better offensive line play. I think the whole
thing is unfortunate. I mean, I don't even care that
the like six games ago. Yeah, and that's the most
important thing here. All right, let's started wasting eight dollars
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The Miami Dolphins have made a decision. Not the most
surprising storyline here based on the recent events of two
Ottacko Byloa and the concussion protocol, etcetera, etcetera, and this
is the second known time he's at a concussion this season,
but Mike McDaniel made the announcement that there will be
a new starting quarterback this week for the Dolphins. Here
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was the Dolphins head coach. The whole idea of taking
day to day is kind of rough on coaches who
have to plan for you know, a bunch of people.
So the approach that I'm unequivocally taken today. You know,
I was on the phone. I met with him yesterday.
I met with Teddy yesterday. I was exchanging ideas and
talking through some stuff all the way until like ten
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fifteen last night. Um, there was his bedtime and so
moving forward today and you know the whole team's approaches, Uh,
Teddy Bridgewater as the starter. So there it is, Teddy
Bridgewater will start for the Dolphins with Uh. It was
a bit. Uh, we just exchanged ideas and unequivocally we
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came to glee and come on, it just gets me
every time bad. That's that's hipster laning. That's hipster lingo. Man,
I could guarantee you if we asked him offline, bro,
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are you a hipster? I could guarantee you his answer
be yes. You think gay coach, But I'm a hipster. First.
I don't think hipsters can be football coaches players, you
think so. I think McVeigh is a hipster. A hipster.
I mean he's, you know, maybe a little fashion forward.
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I don't know if he's a hipster though. When I
think hipster, I think Beanie I think Doc Martin boots,
I think you know flannels. Yeah, you might might throw
that in there too. That makes you a hipster, No, no, no,
but it can be a part of your attire. You
can you can be a hipster with some Lulu lemons on.
You could get away with it. That's not that's not
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all the way down the lane of hipster. But you
know it's there's a look, there's definitely, I mean, hipster
is a look. I mean some would say Robert Salo's
got a hipster to hm because he wears that long beanie.
She only coach in the league that wears a long beanie,
like one of those slouch beanies, as opposed to just
the old school hipster. Just saying if we're talking fashion,
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this is the important stuff we gotta break down here.
Might be right, though I don't. I don't want to
discredit your your claim. But Mike McDaniel, and and and
and while we're on the conversation, point right, I mean,
could they have done anything differently? I mean, honestly, what
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with to a situation are you like? If you play him,
what what are you know? What are the ramifications you know,
taking that chance? And maybe maybe you shouldn't have to
take these things into consideration. Maybe in a perfect world
you can say, all right, you know, he's clear to play.
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He's clear protocols, so if if we need them, we're
going to use them. Like we're going to clear him
to play, we're gonna play him. But I just get
the feeling that the pressure would be overwhelmingly uncomfortable, and
and the scrutiny and and the backlash of him playing
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based off of having his second concussion probably holds more
weight than playing him even if he were clear to play. Yeah,
they're in a tough spot. And and I don't know,
I mean, like the idea and also you get the
NFL p A is going to look into the handling
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of this. And it just goes back to what we've
talked about before. If to us says he's fine and
he's not showing symptoms during the game, what are they
supposed to do? Like, I don't like, I don't understand
why why they should be held accountable. It's like you had,
you had the outrage the first time around where they
had to fire the independent neurologists or whatever that guy's
responsibility was. Well, here we are again, and he went
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out and he finished the game supposedly after he suffered
this concussion, but nobody knew anything, Like they weren't talking
about it during the broadcast. They weren't. So the the
idea that the Dolphins should be be responsible and held
accountable if this stuff happens. I just I don't understand that.
I don't I don't get how that works. You know,
Mike McDaniel should get a lot more credit for being
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the one to catch it. He's the one that reportedly
told to would go see a doctor. They're in a
film session together on Monday, and based on to his
responses to him, he said, this is not normal protocol. Usually,
he's he's better working through this talking about this. You
need to go see someone. Something sums off. So it's
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good that at least Mike McDaniel was able to identify it.
I know a lot of people weren't, you know, happy
with with how things went down previously. Obviously, the independent
neurologist sends up taking the fall for everyone there, but
he does care. He obviously trying to look out for
the best interest of two and it's it's why they've
thrown the towel on this week's him. Now next week
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is really really gets interesting because there's a chance to
is cleared. And I think the question would be, since
this is his second concussion, some would say it's his third,
right because everyone thought the week before the initial concussion
took place, he got concussed, right, and that's what led
to the outrage in the following week's game where he
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got knocked out. So some would say he's already had
you know, three this year based on the one that
wasn't diagnosed, or you know he ended up playing after
and now he's gotten too, So what happens if you
have another next week, if he's clear to play, Like
that's that's the slippery slope that we're on here. You're
talking about a player that could end up maybe you know,
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deciding that in the off season or depending on how
things go, like this isn't worth it. It's not worth
all these head injuries for my long term life down
the road. Um, I mean there could even be an
issue in moving forward. The team can't commit to him.
And this isn't the sound crude, but the reality is
if he gets one more, maybe he is done, you know,
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for the rest of his career. So It's a hard
spot for all parties to be in, and it's hard
for players because you know, you've got a warrior mentality
out there, and as a leader, you want to be
out there. He wants to be out there. I mean,
he wants this is as good a football as to
has played in his NFL career. He's now got the
chance potentially go to the playoffs, and he's got a
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coach that loves him and has helped. I mean, you
don't think he wants to start and play for this team,
and you're the thing he loves. Like people think it's
an easy decision. It's not like you try to play
through other injuries all the time, and so mentally you're thinking,
I can play through this too. Even though it is
interesting if you go back and and I guess the
supposed play that caused the concussion, there is a significant
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drop off in his play from that point moving forward
in the game. So take that for what it's worth
in regards to last week's performance. But I just, you know,
I think there's a lot on the line for him personally,
for the franchise, everything else beyond just this season's you know,
goal of getting the playoffs. And trying to make a run.
And there's also like people forget that the injury he
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suffered at Alabama, the hip issue, there was some talk
that his career could have been done then, like there
was no guarantee he was going to be able to
come back because of the significance of the injury. So
then he works and works himself back. He becomes a
starting quarterback, he's a top five pick, and then he's
got a coach who basically airs him out in Brian Flores.
Finally he gets somebody who rallies around him. They add
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pieces around him. Hell, yes, he wants to be out there.
That's that's why he hasn't self reported during these games
when when it when he probably should have spoken up
and said, hey, there's something going on here. So I
just I feel like the Dolphins are kind of in
this tough spot because you know, he wants to be
out there and he wants to play, and he's already
made that choice and come to that understanding as a player.
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But who was in the tough spot to or Miami?
I think I think two is because you know, this decision,
like if he makes the decision to say, like I
can't come back and play this year because of my
my personal health and my long term health. I feel
like he's gonna feel like everyone's gonna hate him. And
you know how it is too when you're out with
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an injury, like no one cares, no one wants to
be around you, like everyone's moving on the next guy,
and it's just it's a tough spot to being personally,
especially if you know they feel like, hey, look, if
you feel like you can go, go, Like I feel
like he's in a tough spot because he might have
to weigh his potential personal well being over the well
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being of the team, since, at least based on how
things have worked out this season, when he's the starter,
they have a chance of winning. Their offense is entirely different.
You guys that know this better than I would. If
is he more likely to suffer another concussion if he
comes back next week or okay, so then he should
probably sit out the rest of the year. Yeah, I
mean that. That's that's one of the reasons why you
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look at why he's able to suffer a concussion this
past week. You're more susceptible to it. Once you have one,
you're more susceptible to it, especially that short time frame.
I think he's a sympathetic figure. So if he sits
out the rest of the season, I think it's more
he's more in jeopardy of of losing his his job
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as as a quarterback, because I don't know that for
the sake of caring about him as a person, that
you want to go that direction again during the course
of an entire season. I'll say, do you do you
feel like he's in jeopardy regardless? Yes, And and this
makes it even It jeopardizes him way way more because
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now you're not talking about the merits of his game.
You're talking about if if I can live with myself,
if this guy goes out here and gets hit and
it messes him up for the rest of his life, well,
that's something you got to take into consideration. You ask
me that question, do you feel like the organizations in
a tougher spot for that predicament, because if they put
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them out there and it happens, it's on their watch,
I think they're I think they're in a tougher predicament
because sometimes you have to protect a guy from themselves.
And and like you know, Jonas was saying, like he
didn't want to report it. He was ready to play.
He wanted to play. Well, what does that look like
if he gets out there? He cleared protocol and he
gets out there and it's worse than the one we
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saw that that showed up the first time. You know,
I just think that that puts Mike McDaniel and in
a tough situation, and probably the toughest for him. It's
probably the toughest for him because you're you, you have
an opportunity to have a good year um and and
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continue it on and and at the same time, you
know the severity of what could happen after having suffrage
your second concussion and that's this I can concussion that
we're speaking of Q you know, you know for it
ain't too it's not two. There's there's there have been
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more scenarios play out with him than just the two
that we know about. So and whether it's all the
way concussion or whatever it is, you can just tell like, like,
that's not normal to hear hear somebody say he had
to report him or tell him to go see somebody
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because of the way he's reacting in meetings. That's not good.
That's not good. That's not everyday lingo. You know, I
could see a guy limping around and be like, bro,
like go get that checked out. What is it hang
now or what like? That's different. You see a guy
limping around, that's different. But when you're talking about I
can noticeably tell that you need to go get checked out. Mentally,
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that ain't good man, That just ain't. That doesn't sit well.
And that's a that that is a that is a true
dilemma because where does science of you clearing protocol versus
you taking a humanistic approach to how you you because
sometimes you gotta protect your guys. Where is the fine
line he wanted to play he cleared protocol, we're playing
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him boom. Now he's laying on the ground and he
ain't getting up. Imagine that playing out. Yeah, I think
that's pretty That's a pretty compromising position to be in,
and I I just don't think I would be willing
to take that risk. I look at too and be like, Bro,
you're a sympathetic figure. People love you. Let's just get
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to the offseason. Let's let's get you as help as
we possibly can with with how you're feeling. Get a
plan moving forward, and and hope for the best, but
just know another concussion on my watch. I can't play you, Doc,
that's next season two. I just I just can't play you.
That means the last two times, if the Dolphins were
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to make the play else, did that backup quarterback starting
the walk cart round? Yeah, I remember the last one
to Matt Moore. He got annimated. Like this organization short
term with concussions, he always got decapitated. Did he finish
that game? By the way he came back in that
was Jesus Man for people, he and he By the
way he looked concussed, that was one remember he was.
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I mean there was some bad play down the stretcher
like that. Dude doesn't look right. And for anybody who
thinks the NFL still has a long way to go
with their concussion handling, go back to that game and
asked yourself, why was Matt Moore still in the game? Like,
why did he Why was he? That was against Pittsburgh. Yeah,
he got destroyed. I've got to forget drill bail it.
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Oh you know who it was. It was bud Dupree.
I think it was bud Dupree, wasn't it. Yeah, he
got destroyed. I was gonna go Carnel Lake, but again
just talking, you know, just four one two here, Vin,
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Albert Brier Albert Daffy. Thursday to you hope all as well.
I'm good. I'm good. How you got John? You're good
just hanging out, man. What's your Christmas? Albert? Yeah, come on,
I was good, It was good. It was good. I
got the kids kid the PlayStation five, so I got
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to be fifteen years old again, which was cool. And yeah,
so you really got it for you kind of Well,
I mean, I I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
say that. I uh, you know, I'm excited to get
my kids n c A when that comes out again,
you know, and it's excited to get them Madden. And yeah, yeah,
I uh, I think I think it was a great
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gift for them, Brady. So I got I got a
question for you if you're if you start playing Madden
next year, what team is Derek are going to be on? Well,
first of all, Madden is really freaking complicated now. It's
not the same as it was. And uh, guys, I
I think like the this has sort of been in
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the worst for a while. Um and I think what's
interesting about where this goes next is just the number
of arterbacks are gonna be available, you know. And you know,
I think Jimmy Garoppolo is another one where um, you know,
you tie both those guys to the Jets. Both those
guys have experience in the background in the system the
Jets run. Um. You know, Jimmy obviously could wind up
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going to the Raiders, and so you know, I I
think right now, UM, you're starting to see where we're
gonna have a fair amount of quarterback movement in general again.
And so, um, the upside for Derek Carr here is
that he's going to get a jump on the market
because of the way his contract is structured. Um that
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you know that that that money, that forty four million
dollars vests in the middle of February, three days after
the Super Bowl. So Derek Carr is essentially gonna get
a one month head start on everybody. So if you're
a team like the Jets, you know, and you're saying,
we gotta bring in competition for Zack Wilson or we
gotta replace Jack Wilson, do you take the burden to
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hand over to the bush? You know? Do you take
a car um in February so you know who you've
got and you can go forward and build with them,
or do you wait for Jimmy Garoppolo in March? You know,
I think that that's what's interesting about it is that
Derek Carr is gonna have a one month head start
on everybody on the quarterback market. Do you think more
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quarterbacks should put that in their contract? The timing of it,
it seems like it's it's a little bit of maybe obviously,
as you said, it like an advantage to get on
the market, but it seems it's a smart move in
general for both the player and the team to be
able to find more clarity this time of year where
you can say, hey, we don't want the guy to
get hurt and have to own him that money, and
obviously if you're gonna move on, might as well move
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on and figure out a destination for him And who's
the right guy for us? Yeah, Brady, I think it'd
be optiable for any player, honestly. I mean, and we've
seen the late triggers before too, right Like if you
guys remember Colin Kaepernick had I think they were April
triggers in his contract, where like the Niners could literally
like wait the quarterback market out through March, see what
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they might have, and then make a later decision on
Colin Kaepernick. So these things have been sort of elements
and contracts for a while. Um, and I think for
Derek Carr, a huge part of it was, well, if
you're not going to guarantee me the money, then you
at least need to let me know early on. So
when they did it, it it was sort of a compromise
you know where um, you know, I think the Raiders
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you know from our office basically said well, because of
our cash flow issues, we don't want to have to
fund fifty or sixty million dollars, and you know, Carside
came back and said, well, if we're gonna expose ourselves
to that sort of risk where you're not gonna guarantee
anything past year one, you're gonna give yourself the out, well,
then you've gotta let us know ahead of time. So
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that's sort of how that one worked out rightly, where
it was, you know, compromising the fully guaranteed money and
if you're gonna make us do that, then you've got
to give us an easier path to the market. So
I'm sure if you if you want the clock back, um,
you know, nine months, and asked Derek carrback then, he'd
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take the full of guaranteed money over the early trigger.
The early trigger was sort of the compromise. Let's let's
stay with quarterbacks and and move over to Denver. What
what is what's next in Denver? I mean, I know
Sean Payton's name is is out there, but I mean
who who will take this? Is this considered to be
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a volatile situation to step into because of Russell Wilson.
There are pluses and minds is too. I mean, I
think one thing that's a big plus is like what
the structure is going to be like in the resources
of ownership. There has um you know, I I for
everything that's gone wrong this year, I do think there's
a feeling the Waltons are going to be good owners
(37:50):
and that Greg Tenner um the CEO, and you know
Cole owner, He's gonna do a good job in that role.
And obviously you know the ability to spend on staff
and facilities and and and players like everything that you
have everything you need there. But there's the albatross to
the quarterback in his contract, and so that's just really
(38:12):
interesting about this one. LaVar is like, is this Sean
Payton gonna want to go there? Like, if you're Sean Payton,
you know I probably am only gonna do this one
more time, right, do you want to hit your wagon
to Russell Wilson? And I think the answer is probably no,
you know. And I think what's gonna be difficult about
that for the new Broncos ownership is I think the
(38:34):
main thing here is finding somebody who can stand up
to Russell Wilson and not just stand up to him,
but have the leverage to play a feed feed in
the ground and stay there, you know. And so that's why,
like I think, you know, you have to look at
somebody who's either been a head coach before, who has
been a prominent player in the league. And that's where
I think like a Dan Quinn or Jim Harbaugh would
(38:56):
make sense there. That's where I think, you know, even
look at Amiko Ryan or a Gerard Mayo would make sense.
Like they've already tried the young offensive guru route and
Russell quite frankly walked all over, walked walked all over
that walked all over to Sandel Hackey, you know. So
I think the main thing now finding somebody who's got
(39:17):
the ability to leverage the strength to stand up to
Russell Wilson and tell him no on a bunch of
things and Um, the hard thing about that is a
lot of guys who do have that sort of leverage,
you do have that kind of strength, aren't gonna want
to go there because of Russell Wilson. So that's where
I think you have to sort of figure things out.
Greg Penner the Broncos. Albert Brier joining us here on
(39:38):
Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter at the m MQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. Speaking
of Sean Payton. So we've heard rumblings about you know,
the Rams, the Chargers, the Cowboys, is like all the
and the more you start looking at a lot of
these places, like there's no guarantee that some of these
jobs are going to be open. So where's a realistic
destination for Sean Payton at this point in time? Him?
(40:01):
You know, I think if like he gave truth serum
a month ago and asked him where he would have
wanted to go, would have been the Charters because of
the location, because of the quarterback. Um, you know, obviously
now they're in the playoffs, that's probably not happening. You know, Um,
I I do think, you know, provided Matthew Stafford doesn't
reverse course and I know Matthew Staffords told people in
(40:22):
that building he's coming back. Fore Um, I think Sean
McVeigh will be back for another year. Not certain, but
I think he will be back for another year. And
that sort of leaves to me, like the Cardinals, the Broncos,
and in both those places, the questions if you want
to hitch his while into those quarterbacks, and I think
(40:43):
that's where the idea of New Orleans comes up again,
and I don't think it's gonna happen. I think Dennis
Allen's probably back for a second year. But I do
think it's interesting that that speculation hasn't been stamped out
by anybody yet, you know, so I think that's just
sort of one worth mirth worth monitoring. Was I think
now the very real and growing possibility that he spends
(41:05):
another year at fought and wait until for the right
one to come along. I was gonna just kind of
explore the Saints possibility, only because I know they have
their rights, so no matter what he does, if he
comes back, they have to trade him. They have to
figure that out. But I mean, how would Dennis Allen
handle that? It sounds like, you know, Sean Payton already
has maybe Vic Fangio tabbed as his defensive coordinator. This
(41:27):
All Stars, All Stars staff we keep hearing about, which
I'm sure makes current head coaches at those places that
our potential destinations feel great. Um. But I mean, I
assume Dennis Allen would just be like, Okay, I'm stepping
aside and letting this new staff and Sean Payton come back.
If that was that was the case, it'd be weird too,
(41:47):
because he's not. You know. The funny thing about this
is I do think I do think Sean feels a
little awkward about it, you know, the way all this
and you know with people. I mean, he's friends with
some of these guys, you know, but I mean he's there.
I mean, like I think he does. I like, honestly,
(42:07):
like I just tell you, I think there is a
little bit of an awkwardness to a for him. But again,
like he's not stamping it out right, like he's not like,
you know, he's not going he's got a for him.
He's not going on the air in box and saying,
you know, like like no, I'm not doing that. And
you know, obviously it's very close to Dennis Allen. Dennis
Allend coached under him twice, you know, in New Orleans,
(42:29):
and he grew m downis Allend for that job? So
I'm I mean, yeah, it is really weird. And I think,
like to something great, Brady, we all knew we were
gonna be here anyway, right Like I think when when
Sean walked away last year, uh in January, I think
we all knew, like eleven twelve months down the line,
like Sean Payton would be hovering over every opening the
(42:49):
way the way it is right now. Um. But yeah,
I mean I I it's certainly awkward, and I think
it can't be comfortable if you're somebody in that New
Orleans organization who co stunder hum for all those years. Now,
seeing all these headlines out there, I got one more
for you, Albert, Um, the Hugs, the Hogs are are
(43:10):
going after Dad Snyder and and the Washington commanders. I mean,
is this is this the proverbial nail in the coffin?
So to speak with with Dan? I mean, I still
think he's going to try to get out of selling
its team. Um, but it seems like every time things
kind of kind of settled down or you know, get
(43:32):
a little quiet, something else happens and this is a
big something else. Yeah. You know what though, are I
think in these sources of situations, you always follow the money,
and um, you know, I always feel like I think
that there is that element of Snyder maybe being you know,
Lucy pulling the foot football all the way at the
very end and saying, no, I'm keeping the team. Um.
(43:54):
And I think like his way of doing that was
gonna be setting the price exponentially high and then and
then hoping that nobody would match it. Um. If it's
true what Forbes reported at the end of last week,
and I haven't independently verified every one of the bids,
but if it's true that there are several bids that
are well over seven billion dollars, then I think it's
(44:15):
over because I think if, like, if the bidding gets
over seven billion dollars and you have multiple suitors over
seven billion dollars, there's gonna be exponential pressure to sell
from other owners, you know, and you other owners gonna
look at that and say, this is an opportunity for
us to reset the market for our teams. This is
(44:37):
an opportunity for us to rid ourselves of Dan Snyder.
And so I think like his plan all along here,
to some degree at least, was to set the price
so exponentially high that you could say, no one's gonna
match it. And I think where the bidding seems to
be going now is sort of ruining that plan for him.
And so I would think at the bidding is where
(44:58):
everybody where people are saying it is, and this thing
is probably over Albert before we let you go. We
got about minute left here, and again, like, I know
what you're thinking. All right, it's just gonna go back
to the same old Ohio State six and a half
point underdogs, the over under at sixty two and a half.
This has nothing to do with gambling. I was just curious,
do you do you envision c. J. Stroud throwing for
(45:20):
more than two and seventy nine and a half yards
in this game against Georgia coming up? Do you think
or what? Well? I just I mean, based on everything
I've heard, I hope our guys just get their their shoes,
lay stuff right and get there, because there you get
their ankles tape and and and get out there and
play right. I mean, have you heard like a lot
of people, have you heard a lot of people doubting
(45:40):
the buck Eys or something. What's going on here. I
decided that I'm going to keep a low profile for
this one. Didn't work out for me, h five six
weeks ago. Yeah, talking around, Yeah, you thought you thought
you had that one in the bag against Michigan. How
about this the sc one in three so far in
(46:01):
Bowl games. So yeah, I mean that's I guess that's
I guess that's encouraging. But I mean George's um. George
has got a lot of dude, so I'll put it
that way. So I, uh, yeah, I think I think
it's best if I keep a low profile ahead of
this one, and then maybe you'll see a tacock in
a few days. So there it is. Albert. We appreciate
(46:22):
it again. Get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. Have
a good week, have a good weekend. We'll do it
again in the new year. All right, thanks guys, Happy
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