January 3, 2023 • 40 mins
The guys try to lend perspective to Bills Safety Damar Hamlin suffering cardiac arrest in Monday Night Football. Is Brock Purdy more Tom Brady or Joe Namath? Roberto cheers on Raiders QB Jarrett Stidham. A Pacman sighting and an all-time bad beat from a Bowl game.
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buying should be. So the big story in the world
of sports and beyond that we have been covering and
discussing here on the show throughout the course, is what
happened last night in Cincinnati. Tomar Hamlet of the Buffalo
Bills who collapsed on the field about midway through the
first quarter after making a play and a tackle on
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Tee Higgins. He sort of stood up, fell back down
to the ground. It's being reported that he suffered a
cardiac arrest on the field. UM. Just a jarring scene. UM,
players really shaken up by the whole thing. He was
taken away after they were able to get his heart
going again off the field in an ambulance to the
local hospital in Cincinnati. And the latest that we have
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for you is he still is in critical condition, but
did go into that cardiac arrest. And so we will
keep you posted as to any developments and how this
whole thing transpires with DeMar Hamlet. And and obviously, I
mean the Bills have had sort of a a weird
season just with the travel schedule and the snow game
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that got moved and three straight road games, and they
got snowed in in Chicago when they were trying to
leave there a couple of weeks ago. It just been
kind of a kind of an odd year for the
Buffalo Bills, who have been, you know, continuing on with
this windstreak and now this on top of all of
that that supersedes everything. UM, just another another layer to
a really unique season for the Buffalo Bills, who opened
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up the year with obviously that big win over the
l A Rams, so tough spot for everybody there in
Buffalo with all and it just kind of puts everything
into perspective too when you think about the Bills being
that team looked at as the favorite UM and a
lot of a lot of books, a lot of places
to go win the Super Bowl, and with all the
adversity they've faced already up to this point, and then
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to have this happen, which completely puts football in the
back of anyone's mind right now. UM. I think that
was the thing about watching that last night is we
we've seen and when you play the game, you see
guys get hurt. You see at times guys suffer head injuries,
neck injuries where they're taking off the field on a stretcher. Um,
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I've never witnessed a player, and in my entire life
in any sport, whether it's professional or youth or whatever,
be laying on the field going into cardiac arrest and
have to be have CPR performed immediately in order to
save the young man's life. I mean that, that to
me is just horrifying. I think for those who are
there that witnessed it, teammate or not, whether you knew
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him or not, having to watch that play out over
the course of live television. And I know we see
some tragic things in the on the news every day sometimes,
but that was something that I think had a sobering
effect on everyone realizing what really the true priority is.
And and I'm just I'm glad to see the NFL
finally came to the right decision to not play that game.
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There's not one player coach that's on that field that's
a part of either of those organizations that was in
the right frame of mind to be able to move
forward with something that felt extremely meaningless in that moment
and honestly still feels a pretty meaningless today. And the
only thing that ultimately matters is Damore Hamlin's health and
hopefully he's able to come back out from all this.
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You know that when situations happened like this, sometimes it's
it's in the in the moment, it's I don't know.
I think that it's hard to measure and weighs sometimes.
You know you mentioned earlier in the show and shouts
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out to to everyone who's been listening, but welcome in
the new the new audience. You know you mentioned earlier
in the show que about how you don't know how
much social media might have played a part and in
the game ultimately being canceled. I don't know how much
it may have played a part either. I just know
that coverage is lightening fast anymore. And and what's even
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more interesting is not not so much just the coverage
being lightning fast, but the responses, maybe more so, more
than anything else, the interactive um audience that now exists
due to social media. You don't just have the information
going out, you have the reactions coming back in. And
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it's just interesting to me every single thing that happened
during that moment. It was just to to the second,
you know, to the minute, in terms of what reactions were,
what people had to say, We saw what skip Bayliss
had to say, I'm curious, like, oh man, people trying
to cancel him. Now you know he didn't. He didn't
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fell onto the cancel lists, and you know, it's just
it's just interesting how intense the reactions because we wouldn't
have known what what people were thinking in years past,
you know. Like I I also stated this early on
in the show. I happened to be on the sideline
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in nine seven when when uh Stevenson our tight end
got hit. I still don't remember the player's name. I
guess I should have looked it up. Um, but the
the idea of seeing that that was a horrific collision.
You know, this wasn't even a bad like. This wasn't
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a tackle where you would have thought to yourself, man,
like that led to cardiac arrest. It wasn't It didn't
seem to be that out of the scene. For Yeah,
it wasn't a vicious head. So this was, you know,
to me, almost more of like I don't know, like
it was it a reaction? Was it was it a
heart condition that now showed itself in the game. I
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don't and I don't even want to try to figure
you know, go down that that lane and try to
figure it out. Let me ask you, this, just doesn't
that kind of at the same time as a player
make it more scary because we see hits and plays
like that all the time, and now you see a
guy who gets up and literally falls right back down
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to his feet and goes into cardiac arrest like That's
the scary thing I think for a lot of players
is when you don't know and you're trying to figure
out answers as to you know, why this took place,
and who else is potentially subject to to this potential
thing happening, whether it was an underlying condition that was missed,
whether it was something else. I mean, who knows. I mean,
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and I don't want to speculate at the moment, but
I think the major point is that's what's scary about
is when you see guys get hits like the Josh
Sweat injury. There's not a player who was on that
field for Philadelphia on defense that didn't think to themselves,
we're gonna play another play after this, and that could
happen to me When you see that kind of thing
happened and you don't have answers and all that it's
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going off in your mind, like, well, what happens if
that happens to me? When when I was a vomb
next like your your first thought is obviously for the
well being of that player, but then it also has
internalized and you start start worrying about your own health
and well being. And that's the that's the hard thing
about you know, witnessing something like that is again I'm
just I'm thankful of the NFL is you know, eventually
came to the right decision, as I said earlier, Probably
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not if if not for Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott
dictating that to them, Which kudos to those guys for
being leaders of men and leaders in this league to
stand up to Roger Goodell and Troy Vincent whoever else
wants to act like, oh, there was never a five
minute warm up period. Why would ESPN communicate that. Why
would ESPN on their broadcast communicate something that when they
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just make it up. I mean, clearly the NFL had
communicated that to them and then backed off of it
once Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott came to the agreement
that there is no reason any player, coach anyone involved
either organization should we should want to play a meaningless
game in that moment. I shouldn't say the games meaningless,
but given the circumstances, it felt meaningless. Your your buddies
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fighting for his life over there. But a five minutes,
get a couple of patent goal lines go and we'll
get this thing started. Like, yeah, that's that's what that
riverside is. The when so there's an injury practice, right,
turn around the other way. That's not an injury. It
just you know, they turned the drill around, go the
other way. Um. There was a so a wrestler, Jerry Lawler.
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He was actually a commentator. This was back in and
he actually tweeted out after this incident happened last night
because in he competed in a match and then went
back to continue calling the rest of the matches from
the desk and started snoring on the air and collapsed
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in had a heart attack. And the cause of the
heart attack was during the match, he took some shots
to the chest and it did something to him. And
so he was actually one of the people that tweeted
out last night. I wonder if this is similar to
what happened to me, took a blow to the chest
and just your body and look, maybe a delayed reaction
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and then all of a sudden the heart just stops.
And then so Dr Chow actually he does a tremendous job,
and I know you know him well. He actually laid
this out pretty well last night in a post and
you could find his information on Twitter. Um. But what
he talked about was a potential um contusion, a heart
contusion basically, And if you look at the way the
hit initially occurred from te Higgins, it did look like
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it kind of hit Tamar hambling to the chest then
where they went to the ground. And his explanation was
is when you know, have a hit like that, your
heart gets out of rhythm. You're gonna a rhythmia and
it may not start back up. And he said that's
most likely what occurred is the impact of the hit
to his chest potentially caused him to go out of
rhythm and or didn't start back up. And then as
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he stood up, as the blood still slowly, then at
that point going through your body, there's no blood going
to your brain and you and that's where you saw
him collapse. So that was how he kind of diagnosed
it from a far and I know, again not knowing
all the medical information, it's it's it's wild speculation to
a degree. But he's also a former team physician. He's
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a medical expert who's you know, been through and seeing
some of this stuff up in his experience, and that
was what he had had potentially guessed it it might
have been, but was still obviously waiting for more details.
I also thought they'll talk about the double concussion in boxing,
to where you'll get hit, knocked out and then fall
back and hit your head on the canvas afterwards. He
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hit his head hard when he fell to the terror falls,
so he dropped. He didn't there was no breaking his fault.
He he dropped, so I I didn't know if he
got his bell rung and then suffered you know, the
double concussion or whatever. But it just yeah, that was
that was just an awful situation, man. And and those
guys just seeing all the players that were really shook,
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really really bothered, players crying just all the things that
they've seen and they've never seen anything like that. Just
to see how shocked and it just really disturbing. And
then to see a play out nationally like that, and
you know this is obviously the same field where you
know to a tungue by loa that happened in Cincinnati,
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Ryan chazy Er happened in Cincinnati, and then to see
this play out last night on National TV is just um,
it's just crazy. So again, we're gonna keep you posted
on all the latest developments on this situation with Tamar
Hamlin as of right now in critical conditions, still at
the hospital there in Cincinnati, and we'll keep you posted
on the developments of that throughout the course of the show.
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and in critical condition. Um, but he has sedated right now,
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dot com code at two pros. Uh brock party. I mean,
at what point is he going to get exposed or
is this just gonna be Tom Brady version to Is
that what this is? I'm just saying, like he's like
he just keeps going out there and doing what nobody
thought he was gonna do. Not Tom Brady, A right,
(14:53):
Joe Namath, all right, I got that's fine, But it
just that game, by the way, that that was the
hell of a game against the Raiders over the weekend.
And uh and uh, you know, I don't know what
happened to Derek car I didn't see him on the
field for some reason. But I was more by the way,
if you had to take away from a quarterback in
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that game, it was you stid him and he looked
like he was the one that played with Davanta Adams
in college for a quarterback who could throw in the
red zone. Yeah, he turns out in the red zone. Beautiful.
I said that in nine years. Wow, man Berna, I
just can't wait to get rid of Derek Carr. He
loves it. Still found the way to lose that game though.
(15:38):
That helps Berta with the drafts excited. Yeah, yours stid
him now as your back up the future if Garo,
if Garoppolo comes back, he can't write. He can't go back.
He can't. I mean, he can't go back to him.
Up until this past week, like this game was different
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for me than the others because he did have to
go out and win it. Now, granted, christ ms McCaffrey
still had a great game. He is a beast, but
that defense was not holding up the way it has
in previous weeks where they haven't given up more than
twenty points in any time that Brock Purdy has stepped
on the field. Uh for them, I guess I should
(16:21):
say as a starter. So the defense has played well,
the running game has been there. That wasn't the case
this past week. You know, Jared Stidham and the Raiders
lip up that number one ranked defense and he had
to go to a degree kind of throw for throw
with Jared's did, even though I thought Stidham played better
between the two um, but he had to prove himself
there and make some big time throws, big time plays.
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That was another step And in my opinion of watching him,
I think before this, you know, he hasn't had to
really do a ton in order to to you know,
carry this team offensively. He had to a miss game
on the road versus Las Vegas. That to me was
not only a big win I think in the eyes
of everyone in that Fortnight's organization, but I think also
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a step two with all the guys he's playing with
and in these guys now looking at him like all right,
like this guy can go in there and winns some
games too, because he played a major role and then
winning this one, I didn't catch Christian McCaffrey pass Roger Craig.
Um was it most catches? I want to say, I
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feel like he set a record and they they highlighted
it and it had to do with Roger Craig. I
want to say, I'm looking it up right now. Passes
Roger Craig for most RB catches and hold on, hold on,
hold on, var Jones, do you guys stay with the show? Lead?
Could you could you look that up for us? I'm
just I'm looking up. Can we have Lead do this
(17:47):
for us while well we continue the show and kind
of tap dance around here full you want to hear
two funny bits? Sorry one and now I'm sure they're
both listening. One one one fellow came up to me
at the game, and you know he made reference to
to Lee's research abilities and how quickly are they able
(18:09):
to turn it around? And then to the other one
I was in I do have this answer already, but okay,
well at you yeah, what is it with? Christian McCaffrey,
with four thirty five catches in his career, has surpassed
Roger Craig's mark for most receptions in his first six
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NFL seasons And that was on Sunday. Impressively, Good job,
buddy or whenever they play what when was that? That
was Sunday? More than just a round of applause, Burdo,
give him a hand, you know. By the way, good
luck getting this research done next Monday after the Packers
played night. Good luck with that, by the way, Just
(18:51):
on the note of of fans um. So I got
the call the game that Jonas described as meaningless or
I think who cares? I put in his email Cardinals
Falcon and there's there's some meeting in there for those teams.
But our stage manager, Karen, she listens to the show.
She she told me she actually lives um where she
says somewhere in near near Clemson, but um in South Carolina.
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But she she she drove four hours to Atlanta. She
was our stage manager. And she says, she's like, hey,
I'm a big fan of the show. I said, all right,
I'll make sure to give you a shout out. Then
once the show comes around here on Tuesday, when I
appreciate it. Well, then let's say one more that we
were in sacks and was the department store, and I
(19:36):
didn't want to be there. I'm just there to be
there so so relatable of our I didn't want to Yeah,
I wasn't. I didn't want to be there, but I
was there and I was in the shoe section, and
a dude goes, what about me, pac man? And I
got what? I turned at first? Did I didn't dist
(20:01):
I didn't register at first. I don't know why. I
didn't register, you know, but I looked at him because
here's what happened. What happened was I thought he called
me pac Man, and I got offended, Like I was like,
hold on, I'm not I'm not pac Man. You were
the guy. I love how this bit's got so many legs.
(20:28):
That was Var gets offended when people were still like,
might have I broke up that relationship we've got so
we've got so many layers to this now that and
a hypothetical var almost beat a guy up in a shoe.
(20:51):
I didn't almost beat him up. I did not, but
I will say like I thought he would, like, he
was like, I know you, but he knew my voice.
He didn't know what I look like. I guess at
first he's He's like, I know your voice. He's like,
I know you. He was like, what about me pac Man?
Like I was like, are you calling me pac Man?
Like you know, I'm thinking he's calling me pac Man
Jones and I'm thinking it's football related. He was like, no, no,
(21:14):
you know pac Man. I was like, oh man, you
listen to the show. And then he showed me and
he showed like he doubled down on it to improved that.
He pulled his phone out immediately and pulled up like
all the episodes you could see, like when you've listened
to something you kid showed you, you've already listened to it.
It was only like one one episode that he didn't
(21:34):
listen to so shots out. I didn't even get his name,
but shouts out to you that the shoe guy, the
shoe salesman and sacks in Atlanta shouts out to you man.
It was pretty cool. It was like, you know pac Man.
I was like, oh wow. I was like, look, I
ain't pac Man, bro, but apparently from Jonas and Berto
I am. I am pacing am not to get off
(21:57):
because it just hit me. We were in the lant
at the same time, where yeah, okay, so but by
the way, not only did I like not realize that
with you, my sister and brother in law went down
to that game. So they were there for the Peach Bowl.
I wasn't made aware of it until my wife told me.
She's like, hey, you know, your sister and brother in
law are there. I was like, oh crap, all right,
all right, so I we've met with the Cardinals and
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then I came back. You do a production meeting all
this stuff, and my my sister's texting me, so dude,
they drove down ten hours from Columbus to Atlanta. I
think it's not or ten hour or something like that.
All four kids right a J park somewhere. Their car
gets broken into, smashed the driver's side window. So granted
they've got this like sprinter van they've rented, and it's
(22:39):
like completely They're like what do we do at this
point because they rented it from I think someone up
in like Columbus. It wasn't even like an Avis or
Hurts or anything like that. So my sister goes to
get suran rap to suran wrap the driver's side window
that's now busted open. There's nothing they can do. So
before the game, a J goes to get a haircut
(23:01):
somewhere in Atlanta. He loses the keys to the van
in the uber. So at this point, like the entire
trip is just in a state of disarray, like it's
it's just he I think he made it just in
time to be able to be part of the broadcast
and all. That's why I didn't see him on the field,
but he did. He did hit the goal post with
the football though, I mean, he did maintain his focus
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to deliver on the football field when he got there though.
So see I didn't even see that. Yeah, yeah, they
he had. They got a video of it. He just
he just you know, he stepped down away from what
he was doing, grabbed the ball through boom, hit the
hit the goal post like yeah, you know yeah, and
then walked away. All I know is they drove nine
hours the next morning when the suran Rap came off
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in like the first thirty minutes of the drive, and
so they just had a window a little bit traveling
through thirty and forty three weather from you really think
suran Rap was gonna stay on on the interstate to
get back, you can, you can go And chocked it
up to my sister, who's some I thought that was
gonna be the case. I'm gonna talking about I R story. Hey,
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But what was it? What was the crowd split LaVar
at that at that game? Was it majority Georgia Vans
or what whoeveryone was? It's quite hard to tell. It
was hard to tell, but you could tell by the
the amount of showers. Yeah it was it was Georgia,
but Ohio was up in there. Though, and they started
started cranking up that age, and I think, do they
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do it in three different places? Like do they go
they go oh h? And then I guess does one
part to go I and then the other gulp part
goes oh no, it's just too okay, because I could
have sworn I heard three different parts of of the
stadium during the chain it was oh age I and
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then the other the other group will go oh. So
I wasn't sure how I always remember it. They either
do every single letter so before or they just do
too when they say oh h I, oh okay. I heard.
Now they've changed it now to l O S S
for some reason that just helos. I don't know, you know,
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it seems like they've done took it on the chin man.
I'm so I'm so happy that L S you produce?
Who drew brees that money on? How that game? It was?
Everybody ever place a wager on that? Oh wait, wait
a second, No, we can love to do, would love
to do, but unfortunately their assistant coach was filming some
(25:37):
fake lightning strike in Venezuela, so it cost everybody the
opportunity to bet on L S U. Unbelievable well, some
upset to get out some picks. Man, I think that
what they hold the betting on it, I believe was
what the case was in Jearsey. So if you had
to get in early when the line was fourteen and
a half, you were pretty happy about that. Talk about
a seamless, smooth transition into post NFL life For Drew Brees, man,
(25:59):
things have gone well. I feel like, what about you,
Drew Brees for the first time, first ballot Hall of
Famer and then just not much as Yeah, that's uh,
you literally can't do anything right. Hey, Drew Brees coming
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to the staff, all right, We're gonna have five opt outs.
Our quarterback are our leading wide receiver, are leading tight end,
one of our best defensive players, lacked by l s
U the better teams right now in SEC just mutilated,
but it could be whereas it could be USC. So
there's there's that we want to go through the end
of that game and someone probably choking on their cigarette
(26:44):
at one point. We do have a coming up with
the USC game coming coming up in about in about
fifteen minutes from now. We do have uh, we do
have the the sound from one of the worst moments
in betting history for some for poor folks here, so
we do have have some special sound. That's a different
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game though, uh you know the the USC game. I mean,
talk about it for a second. Their defense is terrible. Well,
but anyone who's watched them has known that all year.
I mean I witnessed that in person in the Patrol
Championship game. They couldn't tackle. But okay, bigger, bigger discussion point,
because here's the thing. Willie Fritz in Tulane and I
(27:26):
know no one Nashally probably it's the greatest turnaround in
college football history. They were to win team last year.
They just won the Cotton Bowl and beat the USC
a blue blood. They won their conference championship like to
twelve and two. Like. Think about that is ridiculous to
think what he's done in one year's time. So give
him a ton of credit for what he's done. And
I also think it would further call for expansion the playoffs,
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which we will get not next year but the year after.
But as far as us see big picture, let me
ask you this this, how different is USC in the
way they operated this year year? For what Lincoln Riley
was as a head coach at Oklahoma or not. Like,
remember when Oklahoma early in the season, they're like, man,
this is a different Oklahoma team because Brent Venables has
(28:10):
him playing defense, Like this has been Oklahoma and Lincoln
Riley's resume and his reputation for a while, and like
one of the bail I'd think about how much worse
their defense would be. Remember when they were leading the
country in takeaways in this halfway this season, Yeah, and
it was like, if not for some of those takeaways
in big moments, who the hell knows where this team
would have been. Like this, they struggled all year. I'll
(28:33):
go as far as saying this to Caleb Williams, because
he's a generational talent, is going to cover up and
has covered Lincoln Riley's ass this year and next year
because he's just that good, Like he's that good of
a player where until he leaves, you're not going to
see how exposed Lincoln Riley may get because I don't
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care what five star he brings it after Kyle Williams,
he's not Caleb Williams. So unless Lincoln Riley ken in
one year's time build up their offensive line, who's losing
some pieces to the NFL. They didn't have some of
that game too due to injury and their defensive line
and their defense for that matter. I think he's in
a world of her because when he gets to the
Big Ten, even though they struggled in the Bull season,
(29:14):
that is a much more difficult path going through Michigan,
going through Ohio State, going through Penn State to try
to win a conference title than what they've encountered. No,
no disrespect to Oregon or you know, in Utah for
that matter, but you're talking about recruiting and standards on
a different level in the Big Ten, and and he
better be ready to be able to handle that challenge.
(29:34):
So I just I look at it right now and think,
and I said this before the season started, After all
the money you spent to go get him, after all
the money you spent in N I L and everything
else that came along with that, it has to be
viewed only as a disappointment. Like that's the only I know.
They want to say lots of a ton of progress
from Clay Helton. Look, they weren't that down. You know,
(29:55):
they weren't a two win team a year ago. Yes,
they struggled, and that's gonna happen. We've got a coach
is gonna be fired. But this is a program that
I think is having a lot of things covered up
because of the greatest of Caleb Williams. Like that's that's
where they're at right now, and they've got a lot
of things that they need to take a look under
the cover of the hood of the car and realize,
like this stuff isn't working well. Like I don't know
(30:16):
how they're they're running because without Caleb Williams, this team
can't beat and I don't know if they could beat anyone.
I don't know that they've really progressed much from what
they were a year ago. Of Caleb Williams is in
their quarterback. It's two pros and a cup of Joe
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I mean, you talk about a way to lose a game,
We'll have that for you here coming up shortly. But
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Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise to a man who
got rid of his loyalties to Fresno State put on
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We are, by the way, It's one thing for you
guys to get recognized. I'm not making this up. Somebody
recognized me at the Chargers Rams game. I'm like, how
in the hell is that possible, because you're on TV
every Chargers game. Well that is there is that, But
I guess he saw some pictures on on Twitter or whatever.
So shout out to Craig who recognized me. And I
couldn't believe it. But anyway, we did have some money
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and night football last night sort of game between the
Bengals and Bills did not end up being completed a
matter of fact, postponed in the first quarter after a
very scary incident with Bill's defensive back Tomorrow Hamlin Uh.
He had a tackle looked like a relatively routine play.
Apparently they took a blow to the chest and suffered
a cardiac arrest, was given CPR before his heartbeat was restored,
(31:46):
and then he was taken off the field by ambulance
to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, where he is
currently listed in critical condition. As for the status of
the game, no word on when or if they will
try and resume at the Bengals word leading seven three
in the first quarter. College football, as you mentioned, at
the Rose Bowl, Penn State over Utah thirty five to
twenty one. That game was tied at the half, and
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then the knitting Lions had a couple of huge plays
in the second half. Citrus Bowl l s U all
over produced sixty three to seven Cotton Bowl to Lane
sixteen points in the final four minutes to beat USC five.
And in the Relia Quest Bowl there was Mississippi State,
their first game without their head coach, of course, passed
away Mike Leach. They beat Illinois nineteen to ten. In
the NBA, we had Donovan Mitchell scoring a franchise record
(32:29):
seventy one points in the Cavaliers one one thirty four
overtime went over the Bulls. It's the most points in
the NBA game since Kobe scored eighty one back in
two thousand and six. Nets make it twelve wins in
a row, beating the Spurs one thirty nine, one oh three.
They're a game back of Boston for the best record
in the NBA. Now college basketball top rank Perdue loses
the Rutgers for the second straight year while ranked number one.
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Scarlett Knights with the s sixty four win in West
Lafayette and in the NHL, it was the annual outdoor
game in Boston Winter Classic. Bruins beat the peg and
two to one. The Bruins are now twenty nine four
and four on the season, best record in the NHL.
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(34:17):
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Throughout the course of the day, we'll have the the
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So we'll have that for you. Also, UM, we're talking
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about college football and UH, if you're a sports bettor
you know, sometimes things just don't go your way, you know,
don't I know, as Brady likes to remind me of
all the time. And then there's situations like what happened
yesterday in the bowl game between Mississippi State in Illinois,
(35:00):
where Illinois was getting three and a half points, they
were down thirteen to ten. So if you bet on
Illinois feeling great about things, and then uh, the old
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five touchdown. That's an awful, awful way to lose your
as with Illinois plus three and a half and they
lose on some laterals and and hearing the sound of
it doesn't even do it justice as to how crazy
(36:06):
and chaotic that became and just to think about all
those poor bastards to bet Illinois plus three and a
half only to watch their bet go bye bye on that.
That is an awful way to start out your three
from a betting standpoint. So condolences to Illinois fans. We've
got to kind of give a little more backstory to
this because you have to understand that missing me State
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kicked a field goal with what seven seconds left? Four
seconds left, I believe, Yeah, there's a little bit of
time left, maybe a little more than that, but they
go ahead by three. So if you're watching the game,
you're thinking yourself, this is good. I like, I'm on
the side of Illinois here, like it's gravy, I'm great,
Like everything's everything's all good. And then to see that
(36:51):
and witness that the way it all transpired, I just
I mean, man, that was That was one of Jonas
most famously as someone choked on their cigarette, Like walking
around a sports book the casino, someone literally swallow a cigarette. Yeah,
like that's the that's the one where you walk out
of the sports book and uh, you tash your keys,
(37:13):
your phone, your wallet just in a trash can nearby
where they're handing out those little pamphlets to get you know,
like a you know, a lady of the night to
come to your room for like eighty five dollars, and
then you just simply disrobe and you just jump right
into the Bellaggio fountain and uh and hope that somehow,
some way you don't have to deal with the reality
that you just blew your entire life savings on Illinois
(37:35):
plus three and a half only to see it go
out like that. The bright side of this game, though,
it was nice to see Miss Simi State get a win. Yeah, obviously,
in the passing of Mike Leach recently Zack Garnett took
over his head coach Um. The way they began the
game as a tribute to Mike Leach, and it just
seemed like how appropriate, you know, the decal on their
helmet they're playing a stadium with a pirate ship, given
(37:57):
the swing your sword book that that was a out
Mike Leach and his his love for kind of pirates
and all those things. It was just a very very
appropriate way for that game to end. And then the
chaotic craziness that sometimes it was, you know, working with
Coach LEAs talking with coach Leech. You know, Clip Kingsbury
told me stories past week, how like when the game
(38:18):
would be on the line, you know, they'd be sitting
there in the time out and he's just looking and go, oh,
why don't you call it play that? He just like,
it's like what So he'd empower the quarterbacks to be
the ones based on what the deep ends did to
go up there within their system and call the play.
And he just said that was how it was. Man.
He's he's like you would talk about all kinds of stuff.
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So it was awesome to see them get a get
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I mean Georgia, Georgia O. How state was? That was
an amazing game. Just the environment was amazing. It was
a well played game. They fought I almost in a
lot of ways. I felt like I left the National
Championship game. I don't know that that this TCU Georgia
(39:24):
game will live up to what what the Ohio State
Georgia game was. And and you know, I feel like
if TCU were to somehow David the goliath of of
this game this year, then I'd eat my words. But
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and it maybe even if it's a close game, I'll
eat my words. But to see too heavyweight programs go
out at the way Ohio State and and Georgia did
was phenomenal. And um, I just really enjoyed being there
with the other Hall of famers. Congrats to all the
other inductees. It was. It was really cool getting you know,
acknowledged at the game and getting our jackets, but also
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the Penn State and Utah game, and Utah came out
there to play, and Penn State withstood the physicality of
the approach and ended up doing well. So I had
a great time. Not to mention what with Long Island's
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of sports and beyond that we have been covering and
discussing here on the show throughout the course, is what
happened last night in Cincinnati. Tomar Hamlet of the Buffalo
Bills who collapsed on the field about midway through the
first quarter after making a play and a tackle on
(01:25):
Tee Higgins. He sort of stood up, fell back down
to the ground. It's being reported that he suffered a
cardiac arrest on the field. UM. Just a jarring scene. UM,
players really shaken up by the whole thing. He was
taken away after they were able to get his heart
going again off the field in an ambulance to the
local hospital in Cincinnati. And the latest that we have
(01:47):
for you is he still is in critical condition, but
did go into that cardiac arrest. And so we will
keep you posted as to any developments and how this
whole thing transpires with DeMar Hamlet. And and obviously, I
mean the Bills have had sort of a a weird
season just with the travel schedule and the snow game
(02:09):
that got moved and three straight road games, and they
got snowed in in Chicago when they were trying to
leave there a couple of weeks ago. It just been
kind of a kind of an odd year for the
Buffalo Bills, who have been, you know, continuing on with
this windstreak and now this on top of all of
that that supersedes everything. UM, just another another layer to
a really unique season for the Buffalo Bills, who opened
(02:31):
up the year with obviously that big win over the
l A Rams, so tough spot for everybody there in
Buffalo with all and it just kind of puts everything
into perspective too when you think about the Bills being
that team looked at as the favorite UM and a
lot of a lot of books, a lot of places
to go win the Super Bowl, and with all the
adversity they've faced already up to this point, and then
(02:53):
to have this happen, which completely puts football in the
back of anyone's mind right now. UM. I think that
was the thing about watching that last night is we
we've seen and when you play the game, you see
guys get hurt. You see at times guys suffer head injuries,
neck injuries where they're taking off the field on a stretcher. Um,
(03:15):
I've never witnessed a player, and in my entire life
in any sport, whether it's professional or youth or whatever,
be laying on the field going into cardiac arrest and
have to be have CPR performed immediately in order to
save the young man's life. I mean that, that to
me is just horrifying. I think for those who are
there that witnessed it, teammate or not, whether you knew
(03:37):
him or not, having to watch that play out over
the course of live television. And I know we see
some tragic things in the on the news every day sometimes,
but that was something that I think had a sobering
effect on everyone realizing what really the true priority is.
And and I'm just I'm glad to see the NFL
finally came to the right decision to not play that game.
(03:59):
There's not one player coach that's on that field that's
a part of either of those organizations that was in
the right frame of mind to be able to move
forward with something that felt extremely meaningless in that moment
and honestly still feels a pretty meaningless today. And the
only thing that ultimately matters is Damore Hamlin's health and
hopefully he's able to come back out from all this.
(04:19):
You know that when situations happened like this, sometimes it's
it's in the in the moment, it's I don't know.
I think that it's hard to measure and weighs sometimes.
You know you mentioned earlier in the show and shouts
(04:39):
out to to everyone who's been listening, but welcome in
the new the new audience. You know you mentioned earlier
in the show que about how you don't know how
much social media might have played a part and in
the game ultimately being canceled. I don't know how much
it may have played a part either. I just know
that coverage is lightening fast anymore. And and what's even
(05:05):
more interesting is not not so much just the coverage
being lightning fast, but the responses, maybe more so, more
than anything else, the interactive um audience that now exists
due to social media. You don't just have the information
going out, you have the reactions coming back in. And
(05:28):
it's just interesting to me every single thing that happened
during that moment. It was just to to the second,
you know, to the minute, in terms of what reactions were,
what people had to say, We saw what skip Bayliss
had to say, I'm curious, like, oh man, people trying
to cancel him. Now you know he didn't. He didn't
(05:50):
fell onto the cancel lists, and you know, it's just
it's just interesting how intense the reactions because we wouldn't
have known what what people were thinking in years past,
you know. Like I I also stated this early on
in the show. I happened to be on the sideline
(06:13):
in nine seven when when uh Stevenson our tight end
got hit. I still don't remember the player's name. I
guess I should have looked it up. Um, but the
the idea of seeing that that was a horrific collision.
You know, this wasn't even a bad like. This wasn't
(06:34):
a tackle where you would have thought to yourself, man,
like that led to cardiac arrest. It wasn't It didn't
seem to be that out of the scene. For Yeah,
it wasn't a vicious head. So this was, you know,
to me, almost more of like I don't know, like
it was it a reaction? Was it was it a
heart condition that now showed itself in the game. I
(06:57):
don't and I don't even want to try to figure
you know, go down that that lane and try to
figure it out. Let me ask you, this, just doesn't
that kind of at the same time as a player
make it more scary because we see hits and plays
like that all the time, and now you see a
guy who gets up and literally falls right back down
(07:18):
to his feet and goes into cardiac arrest like That's
the scary thing I think for a lot of players
is when you don't know and you're trying to figure
out answers as to you know, why this took place,
and who else is potentially subject to to this potential
thing happening, whether it was an underlying condition that was missed,
whether it was something else. I mean, who knows. I mean,
(07:40):
and I don't want to speculate at the moment, but
I think the major point is that's what's scary about
is when you see guys get hits like the Josh
Sweat injury. There's not a player who was on that
field for Philadelphia on defense that didn't think to themselves,
we're gonna play another play after this, and that could
happen to me When you see that kind of thing
happened and you don't have answers and all that it's
(08:02):
going off in your mind, like, well, what happens if
that happens to me? When when I was a vomb
next like your your first thought is obviously for the
well being of that player, but then it also has
internalized and you start start worrying about your own health
and well being. And that's the that's the hard thing
about you know, witnessing something like that is again I'm
just I'm thankful of the NFL is you know, eventually
came to the right decision, as I said earlier, Probably
(08:24):
not if if not for Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott
dictating that to them, Which kudos to those guys for
being leaders of men and leaders in this league to
stand up to Roger Goodell and Troy Vincent whoever else
wants to act like, oh, there was never a five
minute warm up period. Why would ESPN communicate that. Why
would ESPN on their broadcast communicate something that when they
(08:45):
just make it up. I mean, clearly the NFL had
communicated that to them and then backed off of it
once Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott came to the agreement
that there is no reason any player, coach anyone involved
either organization should we should want to play a meaningless
game in that moment. I shouldn't say the games meaningless,
but given the circumstances, it felt meaningless. Your your buddies
(09:09):
fighting for his life over there. But a five minutes,
get a couple of patent goal lines go and we'll
get this thing started. Like, yeah, that's that's what that
riverside is. The when so there's an injury practice, right,
turn around the other way. That's not an injury. It
just you know, they turned the drill around, go the
other way. Um. There was a so a wrestler, Jerry Lawler.
(09:29):
He was actually a commentator. This was back in and
he actually tweeted out after this incident happened last night
because in he competed in a match and then went
back to continue calling the rest of the matches from
the desk and started snoring on the air and collapsed
(09:49):
in had a heart attack. And the cause of the
heart attack was during the match, he took some shots
to the chest and it did something to him. And
so he was actually one of the people that tweeted
out last night. I wonder if this is similar to
what happened to me, took a blow to the chest
and just your body and look, maybe a delayed reaction
(10:10):
and then all of a sudden the heart just stops.
And then so Dr Chow actually he does a tremendous job,
and I know you know him well. He actually laid
this out pretty well last night in a post and
you could find his information on Twitter. Um. But what
he talked about was a potential um contusion, a heart
contusion basically, And if you look at the way the
hit initially occurred from te Higgins, it did look like
(10:33):
it kind of hit Tamar hambling to the chest then
where they went to the ground. And his explanation was
is when you know, have a hit like that, your
heart gets out of rhythm. You're gonna a rhythmia and
it may not start back up. And he said that's
most likely what occurred is the impact of the hit
to his chest potentially caused him to go out of
rhythm and or didn't start back up. And then as
(10:55):
he stood up, as the blood still slowly, then at
that point going through your body, there's no blood going
to your brain and you and that's where you saw
him collapse. So that was how he kind of diagnosed
it from a far and I know, again not knowing
all the medical information, it's it's it's wild speculation to
a degree. But he's also a former team physician. He's
(11:17):
a medical expert who's you know, been through and seeing
some of this stuff up in his experience, and that
was what he had had potentially guessed it it might
have been, but was still obviously waiting for more details.
I also thought they'll talk about the double concussion in boxing,
to where you'll get hit, knocked out and then fall
back and hit your head on the canvas afterwards. He
(11:38):
hit his head hard when he fell to the terror falls,
so he dropped. He didn't there was no breaking his fault.
He he dropped, so I I didn't know if he
got his bell rung and then suffered you know, the
double concussion or whatever. But it just yeah, that was
that was just an awful situation, man. And and those
guys just seeing all the players that were really shook,
(12:00):
really really bothered, players crying just all the things that
they've seen and they've never seen anything like that. Just
to see how shocked and it just really disturbing. And
then to see a play out nationally like that, and
you know this is obviously the same field where you
know to a tungue by loa that happened in Cincinnati,
(12:21):
Ryan chazy Er happened in Cincinnati, and then to see
this play out last night on National TV is just um,
it's just crazy. So again, we're gonna keep you posted
on all the latest developments on this situation with Tamar
Hamlin as of right now in critical conditions, still at
the hospital there in Cincinnati, and we'll keep you posted
on the developments of that throughout the course of the show.
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(13:05):
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(13:51):
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dot com code at two pros. Uh brock party. I mean,
at what point is he going to get exposed or
is this just gonna be Tom Brady version to Is
that what this is? I'm just saying, like he's like
he just keeps going out there and doing what nobody
thought he was gonna do. Not Tom Brady, A right,
(14:53):
Joe Namath, all right, I got that's fine, But it
just that game, by the way, that that was the
hell of a game against the Raiders over the weekend.
And uh and uh, you know, I don't know what
happened to Derek car I didn't see him on the
field for some reason. But I was more by the way,
if you had to take away from a quarterback in
(15:14):
that game, it was you stid him and he looked
like he was the one that played with Davanta Adams
in college for a quarterback who could throw in the
red zone. Yeah, he turns out in the red zone. Beautiful.
I said that in nine years. Wow, man Berna, I
just can't wait to get rid of Derek Carr. He
loves it. Still found the way to lose that game though.
(15:38):
That helps Berta with the drafts excited. Yeah, yours stid
him now as your back up the future if Garo,
if Garoppolo comes back, he can't write. He can't go back.
He can't. I mean, he can't go back to him.
Up until this past week, like this game was different
(16:00):
for me than the others because he did have to
go out and win it. Now, granted, christ ms McCaffrey
still had a great game. He is a beast, but
that defense was not holding up the way it has
in previous weeks where they haven't given up more than
twenty points in any time that Brock Purdy has stepped
on the field. Uh for them, I guess I should
(16:21):
say as a starter. So the defense has played well,
the running game has been there. That wasn't the case
this past week. You know, Jared Stidham and the Raiders
lip up that number one ranked defense and he had
to go to a degree kind of throw for throw
with Jared's did, even though I thought Stidham played better
between the two um, but he had to prove himself
there and make some big time throws, big time plays.
(16:42):
That was another step And in my opinion of watching him,
I think before this, you know, he hasn't had to
really do a ton in order to to you know,
carry this team offensively. He had to a miss game
on the road versus Las Vegas. That to me was
not only a big win I think in the eyes
of everyone in that Fortnight's organization, but I think also
(17:04):
a step two with all the guys he's playing with
and in these guys now looking at him like all right,
like this guy can go in there and winns some
games too, because he played a major role and then
winning this one, I didn't catch Christian McCaffrey pass Roger Craig.
Um was it most catches? I want to say, I
(17:25):
feel like he set a record and they they highlighted
it and it had to do with Roger Craig. I
want to say, I'm looking it up right now. Passes
Roger Craig for most RB catches and hold on, hold on,
hold on, var Jones, do you guys stay with the show? Lead?
Could you could you look that up for us? I'm
just I'm looking up. Can we have Lead do this
(17:47):
for us while well we continue the show and kind
of tap dance around here full you want to hear
two funny bits? Sorry one and now I'm sure they're
both listening. One one one fellow came up to me
at the game, and you know he made reference to
to Lee's research abilities and how quickly are they able
(18:09):
to turn it around? And then to the other one
I was in I do have this answer already, but okay,
well at you yeah, what is it with? Christian McCaffrey,
with four thirty five catches in his career, has surpassed
Roger Craig's mark for most receptions in his first six
(18:29):
NFL seasons And that was on Sunday. Impressively, Good job,
buddy or whenever they play what when was that? That
was Sunday? More than just a round of applause, Burdo,
give him a hand, you know. By the way, good
luck getting this research done next Monday after the Packers
played night. Good luck with that, by the way, Just
(18:51):
on the note of of fans um. So I got
the call the game that Jonas described as meaningless or
I think who cares? I put in his email Cardinals
Falcon and there's there's some meeting in there for those teams.
But our stage manager, Karen, she listens to the show.
She she told me she actually lives um where she
says somewhere in near near Clemson, but um in South Carolina.
(19:14):
But she she she drove four hours to Atlanta. She
was our stage manager. And she says, she's like, hey,
I'm a big fan of the show. I said, all right,
I'll make sure to give you a shout out. Then
once the show comes around here on Tuesday, when I
appreciate it. Well, then let's say one more that we
were in sacks and was the department store, and I
(19:36):
didn't want to be there. I'm just there to be
there so so relatable of our I didn't want to Yeah,
I wasn't. I didn't want to be there, but I
was there and I was in the shoe section, and
a dude goes, what about me, pac man? And I
got what? I turned at first? Did I didn't dist
(20:01):
I didn't register at first. I don't know why. I
didn't register, you know, but I looked at him because
here's what happened. What happened was I thought he called
me pac Man, and I got offended, Like I was like,
hold on, I'm not I'm not pac Man. You were
the guy. I love how this bit's got so many legs.
(20:28):
That was Var gets offended when people were still like,
might have I broke up that relationship we've got so
we've got so many layers to this now that and
a hypothetical var almost beat a guy up in a shoe.
(20:51):
I didn't almost beat him up. I did not, but
I will say like I thought he would, like, he
was like, I know you, but he knew my voice.
He didn't know what I look like. I guess at
first he's He's like, I know your voice. He's like,
I know you. He was like, what about me pac Man?
Like I was like, are you calling me pac Man?
Like you know, I'm thinking he's calling me pac Man
Jones and I'm thinking it's football related. He was like, no, no,
(21:14):
you know pac Man. I was like, oh man, you
listen to the show. And then he showed me and
he showed like he doubled down on it to improved that.
He pulled his phone out immediately and pulled up like
all the episodes you could see, like when you've listened
to something you kid showed you, you've already listened to it.
It was only like one one episode that he didn't
(21:34):
listen to so shots out. I didn't even get his name,
but shouts out to you that the shoe guy, the
shoe salesman and sacks in Atlanta shouts out to you man.
It was pretty cool. It was like, you know pac Man.
I was like, oh wow. I was like, look, I
ain't pac Man, bro, but apparently from Jonas and Berto
I am. I am pacing am not to get off
(21:57):
because it just hit me. We were in the lant
at the same time, where yeah, okay, so but by
the way, not only did I like not realize that
with you, my sister and brother in law went down
to that game. So they were there for the Peach Bowl.
I wasn't made aware of it until my wife told me.
She's like, hey, you know, your sister and brother in
law are there. I was like, oh crap, all right,
all right, so I we've met with the Cardinals and
(22:19):
then I came back. You do a production meeting all
this stuff, and my my sister's texting me, so dude,
they drove down ten hours from Columbus to Atlanta. I
think it's not or ten hour or something like that.
All four kids right a J park somewhere. Their car
gets broken into, smashed the driver's side window. So granted
they've got this like sprinter van they've rented, and it's
(22:39):
like completely They're like what do we do at this
point because they rented it from I think someone up
in like Columbus. It wasn't even like an Avis or
Hurts or anything like that. So my sister goes to
get suran rap to suran wrap the driver's side window
that's now busted open. There's nothing they can do. So
before the game, a J goes to get a haircut
(23:01):
somewhere in Atlanta. He loses the keys to the van
in the uber. So at this point, like the entire
trip is just in a state of disarray, like it's
it's just he I think he made it just in
time to be able to be part of the broadcast
and all. That's why I didn't see him on the field,
but he did. He did hit the goal post with
the football though, I mean, he did maintain his focus
(23:23):
to deliver on the football field when he got there though.
So see I didn't even see that. Yeah, yeah, they
he had. They got a video of it. He just
he just you know, he stepped down away from what
he was doing, grabbed the ball through boom, hit the
hit the goal post like yeah, you know yeah, and
then walked away. All I know is they drove nine
hours the next morning when the suran Rap came off
(23:45):
in like the first thirty minutes of the drive, and
so they just had a window a little bit traveling
through thirty and forty three weather from you really think
suran Rap was gonna stay on on the interstate to
get back, you can, you can go And chocked it
up to my sister, who's some I thought that was
gonna be the case. I'm gonna talking about I R story. Hey,
(24:07):
But what was it? What was the crowd split LaVar
at that at that game? Was it majority Georgia Vans
or what whoeveryone was? It's quite hard to tell. It
was hard to tell, but you could tell by the
the amount of showers. Yeah it was it was Georgia,
but Ohio was up in there. Though, and they started
started cranking up that age, and I think, do they
(24:30):
do it in three different places? Like do they go
they go oh h? And then I guess does one
part to go I and then the other gulp part
goes oh no, it's just too okay, because I could
have sworn I heard three different parts of of the
stadium during the chain it was oh age I and
(24:53):
then the other the other group will go oh. So
I wasn't sure how I always remember it. They either
do every single letter so before or they just do
too when they say oh h I, oh okay. I heard.
Now they've changed it now to l O S S
for some reason that just helos. I don't know, you know,
(25:16):
it seems like they've done took it on the chin man.
I'm so I'm so happy that L S you produce?
Who drew brees that money on? How that game? It was?
Everybody ever place a wager on that? Oh wait, wait
a second, No, we can love to do, would love
to do, but unfortunately their assistant coach was filming some
(25:37):
fake lightning strike in Venezuela, so it cost everybody the
opportunity to bet on L S U. Unbelievable well, some
upset to get out some picks. Man, I think that
what they hold the betting on it, I believe was
what the case was in Jearsey. So if you had
to get in early when the line was fourteen and
a half, you were pretty happy about that. Talk about
a seamless, smooth transition into post NFL life For Drew Brees, man,
(25:59):
things have gone well. I feel like, what about you,
Drew Brees for the first time, first ballot Hall of
Famer and then just not much as Yeah, that's uh,
you literally can't do anything right. Hey, Drew Brees coming
(26:21):
to the staff, all right, We're gonna have five opt outs.
Our quarterback are our leading wide receiver, are leading tight end,
one of our best defensive players, lacked by l s
U the better teams right now in SEC just mutilated,
but it could be whereas it could be USC. So
there's there's that we want to go through the end
of that game and someone probably choking on their cigarette
(26:44):
at one point. We do have a coming up with
the USC game coming coming up in about in about
fifteen minutes from now. We do have uh, we do
have the the sound from one of the worst moments
in betting history for some for poor folks here, so
we do have have some special sound. That's a different
(27:04):
game though, uh you know the the USC game. I mean,
talk about it for a second. Their defense is terrible. Well,
but anyone who's watched them has known that all year.
I mean I witnessed that in person in the Patrol
Championship game. They couldn't tackle. But okay, bigger, bigger discussion point,
because here's the thing. Willie Fritz in Tulane and I
(27:26):
know no one Nashally probably it's the greatest turnaround in
college football history. They were to win team last year.
They just won the Cotton Bowl and beat the USC
a blue blood. They won their conference championship like to
twelve and two. Like. Think about that is ridiculous to
think what he's done in one year's time. So give
him a ton of credit for what he's done. And
I also think it would further call for expansion the playoffs,
(27:49):
which we will get not next year but the year after.
But as far as us see big picture, let me
ask you this this, how different is USC in the
way they operated this year year? For what Lincoln Riley
was as a head coach at Oklahoma or not. Like,
remember when Oklahoma early in the season, they're like, man,
this is a different Oklahoma team because Brent Venables has
(28:10):
him playing defense, Like this has been Oklahoma and Lincoln
Riley's resume and his reputation for a while, and like
one of the bail I'd think about how much worse
their defense would be. Remember when they were leading the
country in takeaways in this halfway this season, Yeah, and
it was like, if not for some of those takeaways
in big moments, who the hell knows where this team
would have been. Like this, they struggled all year. I'll
(28:33):
go as far as saying this to Caleb Williams, because
he's a generational talent, is going to cover up and
has covered Lincoln Riley's ass this year and next year
because he's just that good, Like he's that good of
a player where until he leaves, you're not going to
see how exposed Lincoln Riley may get because I don't
(28:53):
care what five star he brings it after Kyle Williams,
he's not Caleb Williams. So unless Lincoln Riley ken in
one year's time build up their offensive line, who's losing
some pieces to the NFL. They didn't have some of
that game too due to injury and their defensive line
and their defense for that matter. I think he's in
a world of her because when he gets to the
Big Ten, even though they struggled in the Bull season,
(29:14):
that is a much more difficult path going through Michigan,
going through Ohio State, going through Penn State to try
to win a conference title than what they've encountered. No,
no disrespect to Oregon or you know, in Utah for
that matter, but you're talking about recruiting and standards on
a different level in the Big Ten, and and he
better be ready to be able to handle that challenge.
(29:34):
So I just I look at it right now and think,
and I said this before the season started, After all
the money you spent to go get him, after all
the money you spent in N I L and everything
else that came along with that, it has to be
viewed only as a disappointment. Like that's the only I know.
They want to say lots of a ton of progress
from Clay Helton. Look, they weren't that down. You know,
(29:55):
they weren't a two win team a year ago. Yes,
they struggled, and that's gonna happen. We've got a coach
is gonna be fired. But this is a program that
I think is having a lot of things covered up
because of the greatest of Caleb Williams. Like that's that's
where they're at right now, and they've got a lot
of things that they need to take a look under
the cover of the hood of the car and realize,
like this stuff isn't working well. Like I don't know
(30:16):
how they're they're running because without Caleb Williams, this team
can't beat and I don't know if they could beat anyone.
I don't know that they've really progressed much from what
they were a year ago. Of Caleb Williams is in
their quarterback. It's two pros and a cup of Joe
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox can
hang out with us. Is always on the I Heart
Radio app. So we are going to get to a
moment in the world of football over the weekend. Just
(30:39):
I mean, you talk about a way to lose a game,
We'll have that for you here coming up shortly. But
for all the latest from around the world of sports,
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise to a man who
got rid of his loyalties to Fresno State put on
that state. Damn right. He became a Rose Bowl champion,
the one and only bringing them on Stine next year.
(31:02):
We are, by the way, It's one thing for you
guys to get recognized. I'm not making this up. Somebody
recognized me at the Chargers Rams game. I'm like, how
in the hell is that possible, because you're on TV
every Chargers game. Well that is there is that, But
I guess he saw some pictures on on Twitter or whatever.
So shout out to Craig who recognized me. And I
couldn't believe it. But anyway, we did have some money
(31:24):
and night football last night sort of game between the
Bengals and Bills did not end up being completed a
matter of fact, postponed in the first quarter after a
very scary incident with Bill's defensive back Tomorrow Hamlin Uh.
He had a tackle looked like a relatively routine play.
Apparently they took a blow to the chest and suffered
a cardiac arrest, was given CPR before his heartbeat was restored,
(31:46):
and then he was taken off the field by ambulance
to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, where he is
currently listed in critical condition. As for the status of
the game, no word on when or if they will
try and resume at the Bengals word leading seven three
in the first quarter. College football, as you mentioned, at
the Rose Bowl, Penn State over Utah thirty five to
twenty one. That game was tied at the half, and
(32:07):
then the knitting Lions had a couple of huge plays
in the second half. Citrus Bowl l s U all
over produced sixty three to seven Cotton Bowl to Lane
sixteen points in the final four minutes to beat USC five.
And in the Relia Quest Bowl there was Mississippi State,
their first game without their head coach, of course, passed
away Mike Leach. They beat Illinois nineteen to ten. In
the NBA, we had Donovan Mitchell scoring a franchise record
(32:29):
seventy one points in the Cavaliers one one thirty four
overtime went over the Bulls. It's the most points in
the NBA game since Kobe scored eighty one back in
two thousand and six. Nets make it twelve wins in
a row, beating the Spurs one thirty nine, one oh three.
They're a game back of Boston for the best record
in the NBA. Now college basketball top rank Perdue loses
the Rutgers for the second straight year while ranked number one.
(32:51):
Scarlett Knights with the s sixty four win in West
Lafayette and in the NHL, it was the annual outdoor
game in Boston Winter Classic. Bruins beat the peg and
two to one. The Bruins are now twenty nine four
and four on the season, best record in the NHL.
Now back to Rady Quinn, Laura Rington, and Jonas Stocks
at the tire Ract dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Thanks Eddie, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
(33:12):
on Fox Sports Radio coming up next. You talk about
a way to lose. This is an all timer. We'll
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(34:17):
Damar Hamlin still in the hospital in Cincinnati there in
critical condition, but keep it here on Fox Sports Radio.
Throughout the course of the day, we'll have the the
updates for you on that and just the plan moving
forward for the NFL and rescheduling the game or whatever
the situation is as far as the a f C goes.
So we'll have that for you. Also, UM, we're talking
(34:37):
about college football and UH, if you're a sports bettor
you know, sometimes things just don't go your way, you know,
don't I know, as Brady likes to remind me of
all the time. And then there's situations like what happened
yesterday in the bowl game between Mississippi State in Illinois,
(35:00):
where Illinois was getting three and a half points, they
were down thirteen to ten. So if you bet on
Illinois feeling great about things, and then uh, the old
later will start. And that brings us to the progressive
play of the day. This courtesy from Learfield. De Vito
(35:24):
throws hooking ladder Williams up the right sideline, Williams with room,
looking to throw back. He does, this is caught by
the tide end. The ball is three picked up in
the backfield or picked up front by another ladder, and
again to the left side, looking for the throwback across
the field. It's on the debt. It's picked up my
stake the bags left the right. It's Brents plenty ten
(35:45):
five touchdown. That's an awful, awful way to lose your
as with Illinois plus three and a half and they
lose on some laterals and and hearing the sound of
it doesn't even do it justice as to how crazy
(36:06):
and chaotic that became and just to think about all
those poor bastards to bet Illinois plus three and a
half only to watch their bet go bye bye on that.
That is an awful way to start out your three
from a betting standpoint. So condolences to Illinois fans. We've
got to kind of give a little more backstory to
this because you have to understand that missing me State
(36:28):
kicked a field goal with what seven seconds left? Four
seconds left, I believe, Yeah, there's a little bit of
time left, maybe a little more than that, but they
go ahead by three. So if you're watching the game,
you're thinking yourself, this is good. I like, I'm on
the side of Illinois here, like it's gravy, I'm great,
Like everything's everything's all good. And then to see that
(36:51):
and witness that the way it all transpired, I just
I mean, man, that was That was one of Jonas
most famously as someone choked on their cigarette, Like walking
around a sports book the casino, someone literally swallow a cigarette. Yeah,
like that's the that's the one where you walk out
of the sports book and uh, you tash your keys,
(37:13):
your phone, your wallet just in a trash can nearby
where they're handing out those little pamphlets to get you know,
like a you know, a lady of the night to
come to your room for like eighty five dollars, and
then you just simply disrobe and you just jump right
into the Bellaggio fountain and uh and hope that somehow,
some way you don't have to deal with the reality
that you just blew your entire life savings on Illinois
(37:35):
plus three and a half only to see it go
out like that. The bright side of this game, though,
it was nice to see Miss Simi State get a win. Yeah, obviously,
in the passing of Mike Leach recently Zack Garnett took
over his head coach Um. The way they began the
game as a tribute to Mike Leach, and it just
seemed like how appropriate, you know, the decal on their
helmet they're playing a stadium with a pirate ship, given
(37:57):
the swing your sword book that that was a out
Mike Leach and his his love for kind of pirates
and all those things. It was just a very very
appropriate way for that game to end. And then the
chaotic craziness that sometimes it was, you know, working with
Coach LEAs talking with coach Leech. You know, Clip Kingsbury
told me stories past week, how like when the game
(38:18):
would be on the line, you know, they'd be sitting
there in the time out and he's just looking and go, oh,
why don't you call it play that? He just like,
it's like what So he'd empower the quarterbacks to be
the ones based on what the deep ends did to
go up there within their system and call the play.
And he just said that was how it was. Man.
He's he's like you would talk about all kinds of stuff.
(38:39):
So it was awesome to see them get a get
a win in the memory of Mike Leach, and it
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Two bowl games this weekend, too great bowl games? Yeah,
(39:03):
I mean Georgia, Georgia O. How state was? That was
an amazing game. Just the environment was amazing. It was
a well played game. They fought I almost in a
lot of ways. I felt like I left the National
Championship game. I don't know that that this TCU Georgia
(39:24):
game will live up to what what the Ohio State
Georgia game was. And and you know, I feel like
if TCU were to somehow David the goliath of of
this game this year, then I'd eat my words. But
(39:46):
and it maybe even if it's a close game, I'll
eat my words. But to see too heavyweight programs go
out at the way Ohio State and and Georgia did
was phenomenal. And um, I just really enjoyed being there
with the other Hall of famers. Congrats to all the
other inductees. It was. It was really cool getting you know,
acknowledged at the game and getting our jackets, but also
(40:09):
the Penn State and Utah game, and Utah came out
there to play, and Penn State withstood the physicality of
the approach and ended up doing well. So I had
a great time. Not to mention what with Long Island's
during so we could probably go to a burn unit
after after the show, but listen to the podcast that
(40:33):
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