01/18/2023 – Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

On today’s Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Aaron Rodgers waffles back and forth about his decision to return but how does it compare to Brett Favre? Jalen Hurts is off the injury report but expect the Giants to target his shoulder. The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by to talk about problems with college football, Thailand and JT Daniels. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar area. Brady Quinn and Jonas knocks on
Foorts Radio. You are unbelievable, Hey man, I took the
crown yesterday, y'all the king everybody out there. I'm the
kang with a do you know that, Brady we got

(00:24):
I'm the kang around here. Well you know those two
wee back there crop dusting all day time to keep
the door cropped open. It's so it's just so crazy
valent of how much turbulence takes place in that room.
So I just said I'm going to join the party
one day, and I decided yesterday was the day that

(00:45):
it was really gonna go down, and I took the
crown and I walked up out of that room the kang. Yeah.
And here's the problem. Because Lee and Bird of the
Bar are are in this war, I'm gonna catch strange, Okay,
I'm gonna get caught in the line of fire because

(01:06):
you guys are foul and start bringing for breeze and hey,
you can't even breeze kills the particles that bad bad smells.
Is that true? I mean, that's what they said. Lightsol
kills germs. I guess for breeze does too. But for
breeze kills the odor. The odor in the air I

(01:27):
thought killed bacteria. Yeah it does. I mean Berto was
spitting into a trash. What happened? And then chang that
is a true? Yeah, that's okay. Yeah it was bad.

(01:48):
It was bad. Yeah. It was closed the door and
stood in front of the door. I didn't allow for then,
so they opened the door to the studio. Was going
into the studio. I mean it was it was thick. Yeah.
I had to just show them, you know, they're playing
playing around, you know. I had to show him how
pro does it it? Yeah? It was yeah, that is true.

(02:15):
Well okay, so that's the So that's the news here
on the studio front. Now we do have some bad
news to also share with somebody in the broadcasting world.
That bad news goes to Sean Payton because it looks
like Brandon Staley is going to stay as head coach
at the Chargers. I mean, that's the that's the feeling

(02:36):
there after the changes that were made yesterday, we talked
about what's going to happen. Could there be some staff changes?
Is he really get to just say, you know, gotta
gotta survive here and gotta make some moves. And so
because of that, it's gonna be a new offensive coordinator
and a quarterbacks coach. Joe Lombardi and Shane Day are
both out with the l A Chargers, and so now

(02:57):
they'll be on the lookout for a brand new o C.
A a new quarterbacks coach, but not a new head coach,
if we can read into what this means. And they're
going to have a meeting with the media later on
today to explain sort of the direction of the organization
from there. So yeah, too bad. This is Uh. The
toughest part about this is if you think about Justin Herbert,

(03:20):
usually when you're o C and your quarterback coach get fired,
you're not doing a good enough job. But I don't
know that anyone would say that about the job he's
done since he's been there, like he's he's been incredible.
And that's the hard part for however, that message is
being portrayed to Justin Herbert. I'm sure he was close

(03:41):
with Shane Day. I'm sure he was close with Joe Lombardi,
and it's it's got to be tough on him. Because
you know, their offense um, you know, has not exceeded expectations.
They never they haven't been to run the football for
whatever reason. Austin ekelers a heck of a back, and
their offensive line act she is capable of running the ball.
They just they don't really do it. And maybe that's

(04:03):
because of how how good Herbert can be, but there's
just a lot to be desired within that offense this year.
One stat I thought was really really interesting that I
was kind of going through the past couple of days
was they've got the ability to track how often you know,
guys are covered where you know, instead of guys like

(04:25):
kind of breaking open free and so forth. And the
league average for for on pass plays everyone being covered's
like thirty six. Right, so offenses league average about a
third of the time. There's just nowhere to go to
the football, you know, credit the defense covering everyone down
and all that. This past week the Chargers and the

(04:47):
Bucks on six and fifty percent of the plays everyone
was covered, and it was like there's just an outlier
where it kind of reflected poorly on Joe Lombardi, who's
now fired, and then Byron Leftwich, who may or may
not be, which we'll get to at some point, but
it's just kind of interesting this offseason that everyone is

(05:09):
getting clipped right now. If there's issues with the team,
it's it's an offensive coordinator, and if teams are thriving,
it's an offensive minded head coach. It all seems to
be right now made all about the offensive side of
the ball and whether a team sinks or swims, or
whether whether they excel or if they struggle. It's all
really being blamed on appointed to the people who are

(05:32):
who are handing that side of the football. I think
Justin Herbert saved Brandon Brandon Staley's job, and I think
the firings are basically a reprieve to Staley. And your
quarterback loves you, and once you hear you got one

(05:52):
more chance, you get one more chance. So they better
make these these picks, these these next decisions for see
and whatever other coaches that it is that they're bringing in,
you better make it work this time. That's kind of
how I I kind of walked away from it. And
you know, for me, I enjoyed listening to like kind

(06:16):
of like the breakdowns of how it applies to the
exs and ose in the on field. I don't think
there's anybody in the business that does it better than
Brady Quinn. Yeah, definitely not you, which makes it easy
for me to kind of come from the more um,
you know, I guess the perspective of how I think
a coach would be feeling in in the moment, or

(06:38):
you know, how how it feels from from the emotional standpoint.
More so, have you ever had to fire as I
have that conversation like, um, it was and get out
of here. Now there's a box. No, no, it's not volatile.
It's it's definitely not volatile. It's it's it's more me
than it is you. And and that was kind of

(07:00):
the conversation I had when I had to let my
OC go was yeah, it's more me than it's you. Yeah,
it's me, it's not you. I failed you. Okay, So
so can I ask you this, like, at what point
do you know there had a big time You look
back and you go, this guy's not gonna be like
game three, game to how many how many games later

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do you fire him? We finished the season games and
with knowing that he wasn't gonna be back, we were
on the other side of five hundred. We weren't. We
weren't up five hundred. We we were a winning team.
We were a successful team, but our offense was it
was just too painful for me to endure it for

(07:43):
another season. So I took over the offensive play calling
duties and and A signed my what what has all?
He's been my defensive assistant for since I started coaching.
So that was that was how we ran it, and
you know, then we went undefeated. So you know, and
people know I'm known as a defender, but you know,

(08:05):
I played a lot of offense when when I was
growing up. But that's not the point. The point is
that when I knew that are like you're talking about
guys not running open or not seeing what and we're
talking high school. We're not talking pros or college, you
know not. And and I mean, maybe I'm wrong for
having that type of expectation, but it's like, look at

(08:26):
what the defense are giving you look at the sets
there in you know, how many guys do they have
up front? Why are you throwing the ball when they're
sitting back and they have three men lined up up front,
like we should be running the ball. You know, just
just certain little things that, you know, in terms of
adjustments that I just didn't see us making the adjustments.

(08:48):
We were making things way harder than what we needed to.
So did you buy that coach and one way to
ticket the Thailand? You know? If I knew what I
know now. Now, I'll tell you what he didn't have.
He didn't have any trouble with with with the ladies.
I'll tell you that he's a good looking dude. So
maybe he did get a ticket to Thailand. I don't know. Yeah,

(09:12):
I mean, after yesterday, I look at Thailand very differently.
I'll tell you that, who don't I had a different
idea what Thailand was. Maybe didn't even care. But now
I'm a fan, a fan of Thailand just based on
the luggage Cliff brought with. I mean, based on Cliff
Kingsbury wanting to be in Thailand. I think that he
has a fan club of people who support him. Yeah,

(09:35):
and I'm in it. I club. I support him, I
support his message. I don't know. There could be a
lot of people jerking around over there based on how
things went, so you know I'm aware of one. I'll
tell you that. Well. All right, So on on the

(09:58):
subject of and in Staley, if you just were to
look at this and and and just take away some
of the I guess the situations here, But if you
were just to look at Brandon Staley's time with the Chargers,
he probably doesn't deserve to be fired. Definitely. So he
they've improved every year. He's four games over five hundred

(10:19):
as a head coach, and they just went to the playoffs. Okay,
can we pause there for a second and ask you
guys a question. I feel like we say that now
because we just look at the results on paper and
we go, oh, he's a good coach, right, Like, he's
what is the nineteen to fifteen and he's been to
the playoffs. Now granted they didn't win, but you know,

(10:40):
he's gotten in the playoffs. I feel like we're able
to say he's you know, he doesn't deserve to get
fired now. Yet if someone were to come in, if
he was to get fired and someone came in and
they immediately excel next year, I feel like we might
look back and be like, oh, he might have been
holding them back to a degree, right yeah, Because I

(11:02):
feel like the roster is one of the more talented rosters,
like when healthy, which is another issue. But I don't
know that. That's how I kind of see is like
we kind of don't know until someone else goes in there,
like what they're capable of, right, Yeah, And I just
think that, you know, the the health issues and all
of that stuff, Like his problem is the things that
played out that just looked bad, Like they probably should

(11:24):
have gone to the playoffs twice. They shouldn't have lost
that game. The Mike Williams handling of the injury. We
were talking about this on Monday, like the other the
other game that doesn't get brought up when it comes
to clock management. Remember that situation at Cleveland earlier in
the year where they were at midfield, they had a
fourth and one and Brandon Staley went for it on

(11:46):
fourth and one with like under a minute left, and
and the conventional wisdom would be pumped the ball away.
Jacoby Pursett was having a hard time going down the field,
and instead they went for it. They got stopped, and
the only reason they won that game is because KD.
York missed the kick. Like that's a That's another one
of those situations. So I just I wonder what the
conversations are like with him and the front office with it.

(12:08):
Come when it comes to his clock management and his
thinking in those situations. I said to you guys before,
like he's either going to win and do something special
because how aggressive he is, or he'll be fired because
of it because his philosophy tends to be this, And
tell me if I'm wrong. He wants to make decisions
to win the game and be aggressive instead of making

(12:28):
decisions that won't lose them the game. And I think
there's a fine line between the two where like Bill
Belichick has been one of the greatest of all time
and at a quarterback who understood that where they never
beat themselves and Bill Belichick rarely ever made a decision
that would allow them to beat themselves. I think Brandon
Staley puts his team in a position where they go

(12:50):
out and win it. But there's also times like just
like that, where he's given the other team an opportunity
if they miss step, if they fail to easily win
the game, and and and or if they make a
mistake right that the games out of their hands. I mean,
it's it's fun to cover. You just never know what

(13:10):
you're gonna get with Brandon Staley. So there's a lot
of entertainment. Was definitely a lot of profane language going
over text messaging during that game. Second half of that game,
in fact, there was a lot of profanity going across
the the text messaging in the first half, like God,
Dany Chargers is real. These boys came up out here,

(13:33):
Herbert's ready, Trevor Lawrence isn't the moments too big? Do
you understand how bad Trevor Lawrence was being talked about
in the first half of that game was historically bad?
He was getting tour up. I'm I mean, I'm a
part of like three group chats of like former former pros.

(13:56):
He was getting tour up and and the way it
changed from one half by the time now all of
the curs and is going towards Brandon Stately, everybody was
cutting Brandon. He talking to Yo. Yeah. Just completely changed.
And then all of a sudden, it's like we forgot

(14:17):
about talking about how poorly Trevor Lawrence played because they
want The Chargers totally redeemed themselves, took the spotlight off
of Trevor Lawrence. It was almost like the Chargers said, oh,
you think you know how to have a meltdown, watch
this Yeah, we'll show you how to have a meltown. Hey, well,
show you pretty that was brutal. Be sure to catch

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live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington and Jonas Knocks week days
at six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. So, Jalen Hurts
and the Philadelphia Eagles have got a big time game
this weekend again stee New York Giants and the division
around there the one seed in the NFC. There's been

(15:04):
some conversations about Jalen Hurts and his health and his
shoulder and all that. He spoke yesterday with the media
about being a target in this game coming up football, Um,
I gotta I got a bounty on me every week
I go out there on the field, So um, go
out there and just play my game. You know, whatever
happens happened. So there it is the Eagles quarterback with

(15:24):
your quarterbacks ever had bounties going into games? Brady? Did
you know you're saying a bounty on their head? Yeah?
Did you ever go and you remember bounty game? And
Brett far did you go out with one? Not one?
Against you. Did you ever go out with a bounty like, yeah,
I'm gonna get that dude. Yeah, I'm gonna collected cash
on him. It's kind of hard to do it unless

(15:47):
she's just being like purely offensively. I mean, I think
I always think of that. It's like a physical thing,
you know, like in this case, like will there be
defenders targeting you know, his shoulder hurts his shoulder when
he runs. Yes, And I was being sarcastic, by the way,
and he's he is right there. I don't know that
the bounties are real anymore, like in terms of how

(16:11):
how real they were before bounty Gate hit. But I
know when I played, and I was a part of that,
you know that defensive coordinators. I was in his meeting rooms.
And when I tell you, Cigam, some of the conversations
that were had in those those rooms and what the
prices were placed on would be considered to be, now

(16:32):
that I'm a parent, um disturbing to say the least,
it would be disturbing because he wanted more, he wasn't
offering enough. No, it wasn't that it wasn't that we
wanted more. It was just that what the dollar amounts
that were connected to what what took place? That like
that's something's just you know that you know what was it?

(16:59):
What was the you can't handle the truth? What was
the name? It out? You don't want to hear the
truth of that. I mean, I'm sure some of the
details came out and bounty Gate anyway, but yeah, they
did just to hear some of just the way you know,
he would discuss So like if we were going into
this game with Jalen Hurts, just the way in which
he would be discussed in that room is disturbing, Like

(17:24):
like I'm not even going for a laugh or for effect.
I'm like being did serious. Well, yeah, I mean, but
that's just part of the deal, right if you know
he's coming in because they're trying to say that he's
full go, ready to go everything. But there was a
report that came out a few days ago that said
that he's just gonna have to play with pain in
the postseason, Like it's not gonna heal this year the

(17:46):
injury that he's got. And it feels like that's kind
of been a little under the radar and a little
bit dismissed because when he did come back, it wasn't
all that great, and the only reason I think they
brought him back is because they clinched home field. Yet,
so I feel like Jalen Hurts isn't in a spot
to where we're talking about the same guy six seven

(18:07):
weeks ago who was in the m v P conversation,
Like he's got a legitimate injury that I just wonder
how much that impacts him. What the plan is in
this game coming up seven and a half point favorites.
By the way, in most places, those Eagles, well they've
handled They've handled the Giants in there and their two
matchups against them. I mean back in the middle of
the season when you would say it was strength on strength, Um,

(18:30):
you know, they handled him. But the last game looked
a little closer. Daniel Jones don't even play that one.
So that's a different team. That Giants team is a
different team. They're they're hitting a different stride than than
what they were during the course of the season. They
they have steadily climbed and have have kind of evolved
into a formidable, formidable team. Well, I'll say this about

(18:53):
Jalen Hurts. The one thing I'm curious about is when
you're when You're going into a game as big as
this and you are dealing with an injury that's still
continuing to heal. Do you do you have any do
you have any thought in terms of how you approached
the gang qute? Like if this were you, the things

(19:16):
that you normally do, are you still going to normally
do or are you going to think more about some
of the things that could happen if you do the
same exact things Like if Jalen Hurts has the opportunity,
they run a lot of read quarterback sneaks, like read sneaks,

(19:36):
stuff like that. They run a lot of They're able
to create a rhythm of calling plays based upon their
usage of of Jalen really reading defenses and getting out
there and running. If he's really trying to avoid getting
his shoulder hurt, is he is he thinking about that
going into the game And how does that impact the

(19:58):
game plan? Because that has made them more of a
dynamic running team and it opens up their passing game. Yeah. No,
I mean I think they need him to be able
to run, and they need the threat of him running
in order to be truly effective. Um, the problem is is,
like I still think what the personnel they have on
the outside, they're still gonna be effective. You know, he's

(20:20):
in a position where they've got speed, they've got playmakers,
um and so he doesn't have to carry this team.
And Miles Sanders is a heck of a running back.
Like half the time, I'm I'm always asking myself, why
aren't they running the football more with him? But with
his shoulder, with Lane Johnson, what he's dealing with, there's
not in full strength. We've seen what the the Eagles
look like when their offensive line doesn't play at a

(20:41):
high level. I think I think it's gonna be a
tough game like that. That spread as a tough number,
because if you watch the entire season, you can see
this game going, you know, the way of which Philly
at home kind of controls all of it. But to
to LaVar's point, the Giants are planned at a high level,
and they they've got nothing to lose. No one thought
they were gonna be here. Uh, they weren't even the

(21:01):
favorite obviously in Minnesota back to back weeks in the
road that they probably feel fine about it. But but
they're gonna need I mean, think about this, They're gonna
need Daniel Jones to play the best game of his
life again. He was phenomenal last week. They're gonna need
him to do it again. Can he do it again
like this? He I don't want to say he bet

(21:21):
on himself because he wasn't really at the position to
beat on himself. They just didn't pick up the fifth
ter option. It's almost like they bet against him and
he kind of proved them wrong. And now the Giants
are are potentially gonna have to pay him, so he's
he's gonna have to continue to play well and earn
himself some more money. I think that's what this game
is more about. To me. This game is more about

(21:43):
whether or not Daniel Jones can play the way he
showed us last week again, more so than Jalen Hurts,
because I don't think the Eagles have to play their
best game to beat the Giants. I do think Daniel
Jones has to play his best game to beat the Giants,
and I think they're going to stop him and all
that does Daniel jones situation remind you of Alex Smith

(22:03):
when everyone thought they had him penned is well, this
guy is not going to amount to anything that he
was drafted at he's you know, he's going to be
quote unquote bust. And then Jim Harbaugh got there, figured
out a way to to sort of build an offense
around around Alex Smith. The next thing you know, they're
making a deep run in the playoffs. He ends up
in Kansas City, helped turn around that franchise. In the

(22:27):
m v P conversation, the only tough thing is he
got replaced by Kaepernick. So it's a it's a little different, right,
I mean, what's he up to by the way, we
have any uh, I don't know, but that's that's the
difference is like the team, you know, he led him
to a certain point than kind of Kaepernick came over,
and that was because he got hurt in the one game, right,

(22:47):
and Kaepernick came in us was kind of history. Which,
by the way, this would be the time of the
year for them to bring in Kaepernick or oh b J.
I mean, you know, considering how his workouts have gone
when he's gone to work out, this would be the
time to bring in cat. Yeah, you know, reliever. Yeah,
like let's let's get it done in the playoffs. Yeah,

(23:08):
that's what you need. Just got the line go straight
to the postseason. Um, but I did a regular season.
I mean, if Brian dave Ball is not coach Coach
of the Year, we should protest outside the NFL. Peterson
gets it that, come on, man, not based on where
the organization was at with those two players. Doug Peterson

(23:29):
took over and it's been it's been fun, but the
Giants were it's been pretty traumatic. Yeah, bro, like way
more had they had the number one pick this year,
It's way more traumatic. I get it. But he also
had two players, did Brian day Ball and Daniel Jones
and say Kwan Barkley that everyone thought it was over
and those two guys are starting in the post necessily

(23:50):
agree with that. I don't know that anyone thought it
was over saw Barkley. Maybe for Daniel Jones, Like, yeah,
the the organization was the one that made that decision,
by the way, like that's their own doing. But and look,
they might sign into an extension. Um, we'll see what
that number looks like. But I'm not so sure. I'm
I'm sold on that working out long term. Like if

(24:10):
you could get Aaron Rodgers, if you're if you're the
New York Chiants, you get Aaron Rodgers. Would you take
Rodgers over Daniel Jones? Yes, I would. Yeah, it wouldn't
been close. That's I mean, I want to you're really
gonna throw dirt on Daniel Jones, like th dirt. I
just kind of pointed out a logical quarter leading leading rusher.

(24:34):
So you think there's a chance CYANIW. Jones is not
the quarterback for the Giants next year? No, he He's
going to be the quarterback there next year. They're probably
have the franchise tag if they can't agree to a
long term contract. But you know, he'll he'll. I wouldn't
be shocked if you didnt signed like a three year
extension where he gets paid thirty five million a year
and he gets like seventy sixty million up front, and

(24:56):
then they play this out for another couple of years
and then then they see at that point it like
that would be ideally I think how this all plays out. Yeah, well,
good for Dave Balls. By the way, the latest odds
have Nick Sirianni as the coach of the Year, followed
by Kyle Shannon and then Brian Dave all So Sirianni.
Sirianni is a plus one five. Kyle Shannon two one
and the favorite. Then we're just going with like the

(25:19):
good teams, yeah, the Giants, but Sirianni really has taken
I mean not the least the last year they were,
but they're better. They were better this year, like they
were convincedly differently. Yeah, they were different better this year. Yeah.
So they're different different, just different, just different, just different,

(25:40):
just different different. Did we say they were different? They're different.
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and
Jonas Knocks week days at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Polly Foust go here with Tony Fosco. As you all know,
we're the host of the number one rated show in

(26:00):
all the sports talk, The Folly and Tony Foods Show
Numero No. Yeah, and we know why millions of people
tune in every week. They want to hear us talk sports,
not idiot guests who think they know more about sports
than we do. He listened to the dummies crap about
this is the worst thing the shop that you don't know.

(26:24):
If you want to hear how sports talk should be done,
listen to the Folly and Tony Fusco Show on the
I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get
your podcasts. We welcome in a friend of the program
known as the Old p on Twitter. He is Petros Papadakis,
Fox college football analyst, also the co host of the

(26:45):
Petros and Money Show, which can be heard. Where's that
can it? Where can it be heard? Again? Brady? What's
that place called the bluetur Am five seventy l A Sports.
It's Petros Papa is Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hello, Hello, hey Petros.
Why is it the Old Pie? Uh? I don't know.
I just started saying that when I was a football

(27:08):
player because I was old because I had a medical
red shirt. I mean, now I feel like a young
ass dude because I was only twenty three when I finished.
But these dudes are like Van Wilder now, like they don't.
I mean, I've just got a list of guys that
were coming back from Boise State and they were all

(27:28):
guys that did the Senior Day and all guys that
we're all done and hugged everybody, and it's like, no,
let's run it back, and it's like Boise State okay,
And I'm just like wow, like everybody gets to run
it back now and just stay in school and delay
their lives forever. And in a certain way, I almost
feel like I feel like Bruce Hornsby, you know. Bruce Hornsby, No,

(27:53):
I don't know. Bruce Hornsby was like a singer piano player,
and he had that song. In that song he said,
get a job. You're talking to get a job. I
mean that's impacting recruiting terribly, like it's hurting the high
school kids. It's really these guys are making money, you know,

(28:16):
and as at a certain point they're gonna have to
move on, right, does it doesn't ever doesn't ever stabilize?
You think? I hope so, but I don't. It's a
great point you make, LaVar, and it's a big problem,
and you would know about it because you're closer to
that than the rest of us are knowing kids. And
it's not hurting the five star recruit, right the guy

(28:38):
that everybody wants, and even the four star, but kind
of like the middling guy, the guy who's holding out
for a Power five offer because he doesn't want to
play for the Hilltoppers, that that guy should take the
Hilltoppers right now. He's got to do it and didn't transfer.

(28:58):
That's how that's the new that's the new way of recruiting.
You have to go to a lesser school is somebody said,
it's turning into what is that like? You got to
do that in like soccer or something like that, premier
You gotta go to a smaller spot and then you
gotta show that you're good, be good there, and then
you'll get recruited by the bigger the bigger schools or
the bigger clubs or whatever it may be. Now kids

(29:20):
center holding out, yeah, or ending up at Blinn College. Now,
but let me ask you this. Let let me ask
you this. I'm gonna let you guys. I'm gonna let
you guys have it. With that being said, do you
think that in some type of way and Q you
can weigh in on this too, where I mean, yeah,
you can, you can't to. But at the lower levels

(29:44):
we talk about parody a lot of times. We said,
all right, there's a lot of great players that go
to smaller schools out of ducos and stuff like that. Well,
they're going to be a lot of great players that
go to smaller schools that are high schoolers. And now
Juco guys and and sometimes a lot rule movements from
other you know, other smaller schools. Do you think that
that's great for college football as a whole in terms

(30:06):
of the product that some of these smaller schools, the FCS,
the the FBS schools are are able to actually put
on the field these days. I guess I mean that
that type of football. Once you get to know a
football team, right you you're into that football team. Unless
they have no chance on offense or defense, then it's

(30:27):
kind of a frustrating thing. But if it's Calou, if
it's freaking uh Redlands, if it's Holy Cross, I mean
Gordy Loch Bomb, let's go. But uh, I mean all
of that kind of football is all good and fun football.
I mean I did a U. T. Martin game this

(30:49):
year and they weren't that bad. It was always uh
just kind of I don't know. I guess you're just
kind of a prisoner of what you're watching, at least
I am when it comes to football. But yes, if
the if the Power five is going to be packed
with a bunch of dudes with it's like all like
b y U or half your team is married with

(31:11):
gray hair, then somebody's gonna have to It's like it's
like a river flowing right like that water has got
to go somewhere if somebody built a damn where it
was normally going, So where where is it gonna go?
It's it's gonna go to Blend, It's gonna go to
to uh saddle Back, It's gonna yeah, all of these

(31:34):
different places and smaller colleges. Some of the problem is
though a smaller college doesn't make it very easy for
you to get in and go play football in a
lot of these situations. Some of them will, but like
they'll actually make you apply and stuff. And these football
players that have been looking through a face mask that

(31:54):
all of high school are like, I gotta do what
you know, I don't want to write an essay. I
want to I just want to cover my uh my, my,
you know, my my flat route. I mean, it is
interesting you bring that up because you know, they proposed
the rule of limiting um the transfer or the ability

(32:17):
to transfer after one time if you haven't graduated, which
I'm a huge advocate of, just because I think it
it helps limit some of the impact of you know,
the portal and I l all that stuff, and more
than anything else, it forces the kids to get closer
to getting a degree. You know, hopefully at least they
have something to take away from it, because I mean,

(32:38):
my thought is, all these kids are looking to transfer
and there's not necessarily enough spots and some of these
kids get lost in the wind and they don't have
a degree to take away from their experience in football.
Whatever that ends. So it's it's kind of a scary territory.
I mean, I don't know, there's no doubt, I don't
I'm not a fan of it. I mean, there needs
to be stabilization, but where is it gonna come from?

(33:01):
And how the n C Double A has lost their teeth.
They can't do anything to anybody anymore because they're scared
out of their mind that they're gonna lose their biggest
revenue cow in college football, because college football has outgrown
their model. And that's been glaringly clear at least especially

(33:23):
in the last ten fifteen years. But for guys like
us who played before that, not well, Brady, you're around there,
But for guys like us that played in the nineties,
I mean, it was glaringly clear when you're super close
to it. But now, even from far away, everybody can
tell that the scales are all screwed up, and we

(33:46):
need to find a way to figure out transferring, figure
out the n I L figure out how I mean,
because it's not I don't know, it's hard because you
look at a team like Cal they have a rough
year but promising young people offensively, and right when the
season ends, the head coach in Wilcox has got to

(34:09):
rerecruit half his team as opposed to actually going and
trying to better the program with staff and finding an
online coach and you know, all the stuff that people
used to do in the offseason, actually recruiting high school kids.
You've got to rerecruit your own players and and and
that is new. And then you've got to find money

(34:31):
for him. And now you're on the phone with the
guy from Smart and Final to see if he you know,
I mean, it's uh, I mean, it's it's an understatement
to say it's a brave new world. And I don't
know where that regulation comes from, because the n C
double A has just barely The n C double as
like holding onto a trophy wife, and it can no

(34:52):
longer get a boner. You know what, I'm saying that's
a great By the way, I'm glad you transition, because
I was gonna ask you if one way of retaining
some of those players and your roster, it's just give
him a one way ticket to Thailand. Isn't that one?
Do it? You know, we all know a guy who
goes to Thailand by himself once a year, right, we

(35:16):
all know that person, Like, Hey, where so and so.
I don't he's on his trip, He's on his I mean,
I worked in a restaurant, so I hear all kinds
of things, but I'd always i'd always hear about that. Well,
I go once a year. Will do you bring your wife? No? No,
she doesn't enjoy it like I do. It's like, oh,
so when I heard Uncle Cliff was out here, now

(35:39):
I was out in Thailand. I was, And then I
saw the picture of the woman he was out there
with in her shapely bottom rocket ship. Yeah, And I
was like, all right, Cliff, I guess he's eating Patsy
you off a special plate. Yeah, but at some point
he's gonna have to come back, you know. Yeah, Hey,

(36:01):
you can't just eat Patsy. You are like the backside
of island. Do you have to come back? Yeah, you
can't stay in Thailand forever. That would get old. Not
like living on a house belt in the middle of nowhere.
That's those those elephants. Elephants return on you in a heartbeat. Yeah,
that's right. You're standing in the jungle and next to
you know, you're eaten by a tigrero. Way go, Petro's,

(36:28):
Papa Vegas. Way this here on fs are Petris. This
is you know, I know it's all funny games here,
but this is a really important question. I need you
to answer to get a job. What's wrong with him?
He's a long right, get a job? What's wrong with him? Longer?

(36:50):
I don't have a tuberculosis? All right, So early out here,
Petro's this is like really important. I know we're all
having fun, but this is a serious topic. We go, Um,
who's J T. Daniels going to claim as his alma mater?
Because there's a lot going on here, is it? Ri? Yeah,

(37:10):
it's the best school, okay, USC Georgia West Virginia. I mean,
we're dude, I went to Rice. I know that, but
I mean he could use that. See, he's just gonna
go like the last team he played for that. I
would go with Rice just because it's the best institution educationally,
and I would be like, hey, Rice, does it Does

(37:30):
it bother you that he's now on his fourth team? Well,
I think I made this point on your show, but
I'll make it again because it's a crazy point. Uh.
And it just goes to show and brings us back
to the original topic. J T. Daniels, who was held
back in his eighth grade year so he only had
to play three years of high school and then acted

(37:52):
like he did something leaving high school early when he
just sat around in eighth grade doing five step drops
for four months. He will have played at all these places.
The guy who followed him at Modern Day, his high
school alma mater, who played for four years there and started,

(38:13):
Bryce Young, is going to be in the NFL while
j T. Daniels is in college. Then the guy who
played behind Bryce Young at Modern Day and played another
four years, another Big five star recruit, Elijah Brown, will
also be in college while j T. Daniels, literally eight

(38:36):
years later, is playing quarterback at Rice or somewhere else.
Because we all know JT has got two years, so
the saga is not done. I mean he can go academic,
maybe he can transfer Northwestern to finish an offer or something,
or I don't know. I just don't know where it

(38:57):
leads from here, but it is. It's it's a wild
tree to follow. Oh man, well, listen, Petros. We appreciate you.
Get him on the old P at the old p
on Twitter rather Petro's. It was fun last Friday getting
to hang with you, and we had a great time.
I did. Yeah, Jonas really talked me off the ledge.

(39:21):
Oh and I chuckle of oars advice. Yeah, I bought
a hot rock. How about that lizard? How about it? Oh,
how's the lizard doing? Guy, he's still alive and he
stays and it says it's hotter. He's got a hot
side and a cold side of his cage now like
a mc d LT and uh, because you gotta keep

(39:43):
the hot side hot the cold side coal. And uh.
But he's still splayed in the corner like I think
it's called splooting. Now, if Don Martin was giving you
advice on how to handle that lizard and take care
of it, how would it sounds? Man? I knew you, Petro,
but I didn't know it was a real reptile. Petros

(40:07):
would do it again next week. We were in Alsado
the other day and Don Martin was just so surprised
at the town of Elsa Gundo. I didn't even know
this was here. It's a town, it's trap request, it's
a main street. It's like, it's like main street us. I.

(40:30):
Petro's uh, I'm sorry, we'll do it now. We're good.
Listen it's the old p on Twitter. I love it alright.
So that was always a fun chat with Petros there.
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