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On today’s 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Rob Gronkowski criticizes Aaron Rodgers for emphasizing MVP’s over Super Bowl rings but is the criticism warranted? And Jim Irsay’s bathroom habits on ICYMI.
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whatever they're gonna call it super duper yeah, or they're
just gonna call it divisional Weekend, but we're getting closer.
Uh and uh listen. You know we're gonna have a
lot of storylines on these games coming up. But I mean,
apparently nobody can have individual goals anymore without getting criticized.
God forbid. Aaron Rodgers wants to have an m v
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P Okay another MVP season. God forbid. Aaron Rodgers looks
at Tom Brady and says, hey, man, he may have
more Super Bowls than me, but we're tied for m
v P s. Maybe I'd like to take a leite
on that. Maybe I'd like to have something over Tom
Brady at the end of my career. But no, Rob
Gronkowski apparently not a fan of the the comments from
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Aaron Rodgers a couple of days ago on the Pat
McAfee show, and so he was very critical of Aaron
Rodgers talking about m v P s and not super bowls.
Find with everything he said except one major part, and
that's the m v P. Again. It's just that I
think I think I could win another super Bowl and
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then that would have been totally fine. Like like, bro,
like why are you thinking m v P, Like don't
you want super Bowls? Like super Bowls are I think
five times greater than than an m v P award
that we all know that you won the m v
P a few times now, but like you know, everyone
would everyone would know even more how many more super
Bowls you've won than m v P. So that that's
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why I'm just a little confused about that, you know,
about that quote that he just had. I mean, it
should be super bowls. You should never be thinking the
m v P when when you want when super Bowls
are twice you have won four, he's won one and
and he's won how many m vps three I think
he's one, four, I think three. Manning's got five and
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him and Brady have three. No, No, that's what I'm saying.
She asked Gronkowski how many super Bowls, not how many
m v ps. Gronkowski doesn't have any m vps. So
you're thinking that, kay, Adams, I just think I think
I'm sure he's won four, by the way, super Bowls,
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not m VP of the league. Rob Gronkowski has been
an MVP of the league four times. No, she was
asking super Bowls. Yes, that's what I said. He's won
four and one with temp, I'm saying Rogers has one
four vs. Right, oh, almost cursed on on radio. That's
a lot four. Here's the thing, right for for why
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am I seeing he's gotten This is odd? I'm saying. No, Now,
I'm saying he's only one three. Ye have no idea. Yeah, listen,
you know what. It's more than Gronk. It's more than grownks.
The point my kids just don't read everything you. It
is weird. I looked at I was like, yeah, I
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guess he's got three, and the same with Brady and Peyton.
Manna's got five. So who knows. I think conventionally, conventional
wisdom of it it is four. Yeah, that's what I
thought I saw, But then there's something else. I always said.
Three is there like a co m VP? Is that why?
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I'm not sure? By the way, I love it, Lee
was quick on that. It's almost like it was a
really quick it's just seeing quick time. It's more shockingly
came to my defense out there did a life raft.
They're looking it up. Only are always like on the
same page. I know baby Lee's got my back now,
And that's the case. I mean, wouldn't wouldn't winning an
m v P beg to say that you're doing everything
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humanly possible to win? Isn't that why you're considered to
be the most valuable player? Okay, here's here's how I'll
try to answer this. Okay, Um, I think it distinguishes
you obviously is the best player in the league. It
kind of elevates you and separates you from everyone else.
And in this case, I think with Aaron Rodgers, he's
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okay with that award and that being distinguished from everyone
else because it gives you this sense of feeling of superiority.
But because he knows he's never gonna catch Tom Brady
with Super bowls, right, he knows ultimately his legacy is
not going to be that because he's too far along
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in his career to be able to come even close
to that. I mean he should, I mean, I think
Gronkowski's point is he should be want to try to
get a second one because other wise, like really with
with four m vps, everyone looks at him and says, yeah,
but only one super Bowl. And I think a lot
of people sit there and go, well, blame the organization,
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blame their Green Bay packers. They didn't do enough out
around him. But did they like, well, when you really
look at it, when you really like kind of digest
all of it, was that the problem? I mean that
that's the hard thing is there's there's no debate about
the greatness of Tom Brady. And and you can use
m vps as an example, super Bowls are used. But
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he's also the type of player that, because he's done
in two separate places too, you see that he's able
to elevate the level of play of everyone else around him.
Like that's the difference. It's like high tides raised all boats.
So Tom Brady is that high tide in Tampa, or
at least was when he got there and he got
them a Super Bowl. You know that. That's That's what
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I think Groun Kelsey is trying to basic articulate, is that,
you know that should be the goal of Aaron Rodgers
at this point in his career. No one's ever gonna
sit there and say he's not one of the most
talented quarterbacks to ever play the game. The problem is
whether it's right, wrong or indifferent or if he disagrees
with it, you're only going to remember the Super Bowls
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that he won. I mean, think about it, we right
now can't. We are proving Gronk's point. We literally can't
even remember they went three four. That's that's the most
distinguishing words you could have at the NFL three and
a half. I wouldn't be able to remember how many
Super Bowls Tom Brady has played in or or has won. Seven.
I wouldn't remember, That's all I'm saying, because he's played
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in that many though, But I'll say this, you're you're
one of the few because most people will be able
to remember that because no one's ever done anything like that.
I know whatever. I know, no one's ever played as
in as many. I know that, and I think that
that's why I don't work to figure out or commit
to memory how many he's won or how many he's
even played in. I don't think I think it's interesting
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when somebody gets criticized for having a I mean, I
think it's a given one one kind of goes with
the other, which success goes with success. It's like, why
does it have to be a criticism that he wants
to be the m v P, Like why is that
such a bad thing? Like I don't understand that, Like
it turns into like this conversation of it being selfish
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or or all kinds of different, you know, connotations about
what that represents. But if he's trying to be the
best that he can be personally, and and that's a
part of what his goal his goal list is, So
what right why I take exception to it because I
think it's the ultimate team sport and I think as
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a quarterback, you're looked at the guy who's supposed to
want to win championships, you know, not not individual. I
think that's kind of cliche. I think it's kind of
not though, like that's the reality. But my opinion is
that it So that's great your opinion, but it's not
out of fact and I'm speaking as a player. I don't.
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I'm a player. You're not different than another player. You're no,
you're You're the same. But guess what, when people want
to hear something said, they don't look to the linebacker.
They don't look to the D line, they don't look
to the old line, they don't look through the receiver.
They look at the quarterback. That's the player they looked to.
Sometimes not all the time. I mean, it doesn't matter
if if you're established a property right now, they don't
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think people want to hear about what he has to
say or what he's I don't know. I don't think so.
Not as a leader, I disagree with that. I wouldn't so.
So I think the point is more just you'd like
to hear him even if that's his individual goal. That's fine,
Like everyone knows that, Like who doesn't want to be that?
But you? But why doesn't anyone know he wants to
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win a super Bowl? So he has to say I
want to win a super Bowl even if what he
feels is I want to win an m v P
like he suld. He should make sure that's part of
the priority when he's communicating that, right, that's all, I
don't have a problem with that. But I just don't
have a problem. I have a problem with people having
a problem when somebody said if if you said something
like that, the first thing people say, Oh, that's so selfish,
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Like he's not thinking, Like why wouldn't he be thinking
about his team. He can't throw the ball to himself,
he can't hand the ball off to himself, he can't
block for himself, like all these things that go into
him being able to win an m v P and
the and the most team oriented sport in all of sports,
which I'll agree with that he can't do it on
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his own. So to me, I think it's just kind
of a foregone conclusion. You need a Gronkowski, if you're
Tom Brady, you need You're kind of making my point though, right,
Like it's the ultimate team sports, so that should be
part of that. Like if you're if you're up for
the Super Bowl, you're up for the m v P.
I mean sometimes sometimes, I mean, he won the m
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v P that two years they made a run to
the NFC Championship Game. He's not up for the m
v P this year. They I mean, he wasn't very
good this year. Like like the m v P doesn't
go to a player who's on a losing team, it
goes to a player In fact, I don't think it
ever has I understand that. But again to be so critical,
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like in that moment, like why isn't he talking about
super Bowls? Sure, you want to win a super Bowl.
I just feel like that's a given. But if he's
speaking on his own terms and how he feels about it,
I don't see why having a high goal and you
say that that's you're high. He didn't say I rather?
Did he say I rather? I don't think I I
I don't think what the other Here's here's the other
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thing is you know, Gronkowski's taking a sound bite and
then and taking and running with it. If you listen
to the entire interview, he's more stating it as a
matter of how what level he wants to play at,
Like that's more what it's it's talking about, like getting
back to the level he was playing at the previous
two years. And in my mind, that's what that's. I mean,
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if somebody's talking about winning m vps versus somebody who
doesn't get recognized so much as a player, Yes, and uh,
super Bowl? Is is your ultimate goal because you're never
going to get recognized on that level anyway. Do you
think if Rogers had his choice, you could give up
one of your m vps for another show that Now
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that's a more relevant question would But if if that
isn't what was asked and as a matter of how
he responded, yeah, we don't even know if it. Listen,
just called three and a half. Can we just call
the Pro Football Reference? And just because it's because there
was a co MVP here, I don't know. I saw
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three No, no co m v P. Let's co MVP
was Brett Farve with Barry sad Verry Sandard. I remember that.
So that's why I was like, maybe he was a
co m VP. That's why I'm seeing it. But like,
by the way, kids just don't trust the internet, all right,
Like clearly I looked up found tutor for results. All right.
So someone's either being lazy out there or there's some
confusing stuff going on. Yeah, there's a there's a lot
to it. But what is confusing is Aaron Rodgers wants
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to win another league m v P. That isn't confusing.
That's what he wants. Are you guys surprised, Like, I know,
he's won the one Super Bowl, Are you surprised he
hasn't even been back to another one? Yes, that's that's
that's what I think. The greater point is probably by
Rob that wasn't really well articulated, is he's always got one.
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And I think if people, if you would have asked
people when Aaron Rodgers won that Super you would have
thought he had three by now. And we think about
Dan Brino d years ago. Dan Barrino went to what
a Super was second year and that was it and
that was it. Like if you would have asked people that,
people have said, no way, Danny Marino doesn't win multiple
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Super Bowls. I mean people still compare everyone's throwing motion,
their arm and all. That's the Dan Marino. I mean
that that's the reality. Is I don't feel like that
to find you because Jim Kelly went to four in
a row. No, I mean, I don't know. I mean,
I don't think anybody's done that yet, right, I don't.
No one's going to row. I mean with a four
in a row and lost all of them, I know.
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And that's and that's and ultimately that's part of the
legacy though, right it is. But but I don't define
Jim Kelly's greatness based off of all them losses. I
define the greatness that he was actually good enough as
the quarterback ticket there four years in a row, no doubt,
same thing. But I think that's gonna be the same
thing with Aaron Rodgers, though he was good enough to
win and talent enough to be a four time m
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v P maybe five if he comes back. But if
you only have one super Bowl, you go man like,
that's part of the legacy. His conversation for greatness is
based off of Super Bowls. He he will never be
in the conversation. So if he wants to be in
the conversation of greatest of all time, he probably is
articulating his only like, and I think you said that earlier,
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his only opportunity to even be in the conversation of
the greatest of all time is through personal accomplishments. So
I mean that's the bottom line of it. Look at
Eli Manning and Philip Rivers Like, there's a question as
to whether or not Eli Manning is going to be
a Hall of Famer based on the Super Bowls. If
you were to go resume for resume, just individual accomplishments.
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Eli Manning is not close to Philip Rivers. But Philip
Rivers is nowhere in the conversation of being a Hall
of Famer because those two damn Super Bowls and other
than those two Super Bowl years, Eli Manning never won
another playoff game. But because of those two, how many
m vps that Philip Rivers win? I don't know. I mean,
I can't think anyone. I don't think any so. But
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as far as all pros and and I don't think
you run all probe, I think he has been a
pro Bowl alveram many times. I'm just saying that's where
that's There's there's levels to this a lot of kids,
there's levels. Well he wins that, he wins the MVP
on there's there. But there you're talking about somebody who
has won the MVP Award, like not, we're not talking
about We're not talking about someone who hasn't versus someone
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who someone else who hasn't. So I could care less
about comparing Eli Manning to Philip Rivers. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
just because to me, their careers in terms of what
they accomplished, is they'rrelevant to the conversation as it applies
to someone like Aaron Rodgers. It just is it peals
in comparison to what Aaron Rodgers has been able to
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to to accomplish. I just don't understand why it's a
big deal. If he wants to try to play at
an m VP level again, and and and if playing
at m VP level leads to me becoming an m
v P, that means that my personal my personal approach
to the game was at so such a high level
that I was recognized for being the most valuable to
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my team or the most valuable player in all of
the league. I just don't see that. While I am
and and listen, I make this point being a team leader,
like I've been a captain of of teams, I don't
put myself ever before my teammates. Ever. I never put
myself before my teammates. In fact, when I'm ready to quit,
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or when I'm tired or I'm ready to throw up
or pass out, I think about my teammates. Somebody else
is ready to do the same thing. Somebody else is
pushing through the pain. I've always been that guy. So
I'm not saying this from a selfish standpoint. I'm just saying,
why such the like the you know, malice towards it,
or why it's such a like an intense criticism towards
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a guy wanting to win a personal award. Make it
either or it doesn't. It doesn't have to be an
either or. He made a point about wanting to play
at the m v P level. I think more often
than not, if you win the super Bowl, inherently, if
you're the quarterback and you probably had a great year, right,
you're probably the number one seed in that conference, you're
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probably um one of the best quarterbacks that year in
the league. So inherently comes the m v P discussion, right,
I mean, go through Matt Ryan's best year went to
the super Bowl. That was the year when the m
v P. Like, if you if you are in the
hunt in contention for a Super Bowl, like Patrick Mahomes,
who's gonna win it this year? Is the number one C?
The a f C will be That inherently kind of
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comes with the m v P converse. So then wouldn't
you agree? I mean, and we can agree to disagree,
but we can agree to agree on possibly wouldn't you agree?
That is making the point that I just made like
it's making the point that you're right, You're right about
saying what you're saying as it applies to the team effort.
And and so my point is, if you let me finish,
is if you talk about a super Bowl inherently that
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comes to the m v P, people don't hear it
as a team goal when you don't include anyone. What
you're saying, well, I want to win the m v P.
You know what I'm saying, Like if Lebron was able
to say that in basketball, right, which is much easier
to do that. In basketball, you're thinking like, well, he
could win the m v P, and they don't have
to win the championship like different sports. When you apply it,
you can win the m v P and they don't
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really even have to be so much in contention for
the championship. I mean, maybe they're a playoff team, maybe
they're not, but it just it doesn't encompass the team.
You know, when you encompassed the team first by saying, well,
I think if we want a super Bowl, if we
want a super Bowl, I know the individual awards and
act lads will come along with that. He's right, But
if you say I just want to win an m
v P. Then it's it's not really giving you that
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that leeway for including like everyone else. Yeah, I mean
I don't like again, I don't disagree with that. I
just don't understand why people would get and I do
I get it, Well, I don't want to do because
someone probably played a sound bite and no one actually
listened to the entire interview to understand the context of
what he was talking about. And that's always, by the way,
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that's what we do in society. We see a thirty
forty second clip and that's it. I mean, he no
no offense to the folks at Fox Sports Radio. Behind
the scenes, everyone does a great job. There are times
we clip off stuff we played on social media just
to get a reaction so people click. And if you
actually listen to the entire segment, you hear like twelve
minutes of it, not two minutes of it. You know, Yeah, well,
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hey listen. I mean Jonas is the most selfish do
he wants to win awards for? My philosophy is you
want to feel like a ten hang out with a
bunch of threes and uh, And that's just the way
I go down I'll have to feel that pressure. And
I'm not threatening and I'm and by the way, I'm
not mad at you fulfilling that way. That's fine. I
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see the way you walk every day. You don't hold
it against him that he's got a show and he
just named it his own name. No, I mean, think
about the difference between you two. You have the up
on Game Network, which you know's a part of your squad,
your team, your company team, and then you've got showing us.
He just has his dame on the show, which, by
the way, I'm glad he brought it up two to
four Eastern time on Saturday Pacific. So just think about. Right,
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there's the difference. And then you got a bunch of
threes leading into him, you know what I mean, it
makes him feel really good good. I mean, Berna, we're
gonna let that fly is called himself threes. I mean,
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am Easter,
three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio. Yeah yeah, yeah, a little Alison Chains, Yeah
yeah yeah. H school weight room, Oh yeahs on each side.
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Probably not at all? Were you that? Were you that
small in high school? Uh? Like true true story. We
are freshman year, by the way, Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio. Our freshman year,
we had to write down our first day of school.
Like we're gonna make a little a time capsule here.
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We're gonna write down your interests, your height, your weight,
things like that, and then when you graduate, before you graduate,
we'll go back and look and see how much has
changed in the last four years and I'd forgotten about it.
And then final week of high school, we go back
and look at this thing in our English class. I
was five three and wade eighty nine pounds my first
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day of high school. Wow, I could I could have
picked you up and held you like a baby when
I when I hear you guys talk about like, oh,
I was dunking at fourteen and I was six ft
two and six three. Yeah, that wasn't me. It's just
but I went to six ft three in the sixth grade. Yeah,
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but I never grew another inch. And there's there's theories
out there about it, but I'll never I started lifting.
I've heard that if you lift too soon. I mean
I went to six three in the sixth grade. I
started lifting. I started lifting hard in the sixth grade.
(23:09):
I started like doing squats and benches and curls and
all that that s. Yeah, you know what's going Well,
I just said, maybe the problem was I started lifting
in like second grade, and so that stuff that could
be what it is. He's you're half joking. But so
when I was nine, I had uh we used to
pitch like every game in baseball, and by the time
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I got to ten, I had like a growth plate
that was out of place my right arm, so I
literally couldn't like they wouldn't let me throw that entire year. Um,
and some part of the rehab that I had to do,
and I don't I don't know how this was part
of the rehab was I literally had to do like
curls and different exercises with dumbbells when I was ten
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years old. So i'd i'd be doing these different types
of curls and like foearm and like arm exercises to
help my growth play go back in place. That was
my rehab, and I did it religiously because I was
so frustrated, Like I had to sit at first base
and I would threaten to throw, like God forbid, we
gotta runner on first and someone rips a groundball at me,
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I can't throw a second to turn the double play,
Like I'm basically running the first tipping the bag and
I'm threatening to throw, and that I underhand the top
of the ball back to the picture. Because we didn't
have like a d H or anything. And so I
made it through the entire year no one realizing this.
Um somehow, as a dumb question, you have to see
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what the funny thing is. It was forced to do curls.
That's what I'm saying. Like that was ten years old.
I'm thinking to myself, like I know that that's what
started me getting into weightlifting, because then I got curious.
My dad was like, all right, let's see if you
could do one rep and on the bench. But the
meat a life chose you. You didn't choose it. I mean, honestly,
(24:58):
he was se he probably sent me to a doctor
that wasn't either a legit doctor. You know, was it
pig Was it pig iron? Waits that because I did
the same the same, the same thing that happened with me.
I used my dad used to work out in the
basement and it was pig iron like uh, like you know,
one with sand in them and stuff like that. It
wasn't like, oh no, these were like these were like
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metal metal that had like like I pinched my finger
on that a couple of times and he would just
look at me and be like, what are you doing?
All you said a growth plate in your army about
They were telling me about the growth plates in my
foot because I kept spraying my ankles because I was
jumping really high and I kept jacking my ankles up
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and they're like, yeah, you you fractured like or you
you you have like something going on. Something was going on,
and they were like, it's where your growth plates are.
So I'm just wondering. I'm just I'm just your growth plate.
I just I just wonder if you had growth plates
in different parts of your body. If you jack one up,
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do you have like short arms or little legs, but
the rest of your body continues because the growth plates
are open and the different like my arm might be longer.
What if you close a growth plate and your left arm,
you know, or you you injure it or whatever, and
your growth plate is just finding your right arm. Like,
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I'm just cured that. I mean when I heard you
say that, because I didn't think about growth plates anywhere
else other than like your legs. Anyways, it's just a
random yeah, No, I just you gotta it's the it's
the growth plates. And and man, if you know, if
you needed information on that back of the day, you
couldn't just google it. Like if we wanted information on
how many m vps rogers wanted, you couldn't google it, Right, Brady,
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you had to like send away for it. What is
the number? Do we have an official number? I don't know.
I mean back in the day, you'd have to send
away in the mail for it. I know that, that's sure.
Do have an official number right now? I believe it's four.
It's four, Yeah, it is four. I guess A b's
growth plate was never interrupted. Never was. But again a
(27:12):
B as well too, if you had to send away
for that, I mean, but he's short, maybe interrupted his
growth plates and other other reasons. Yeah, could have. Maybe
you got hitting that Bengals game. It's stunted something. But
you know. But again, all of this information if you
needed it at one point now, you'd have to send
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pal it was, it was a great tea. It was
behind the scenes radio formattic. Usually usually Jonah gives us
a tease that I can segue into that. But unfortunately
that was a good land that wasn't played. H you know,
I mean, we weren't playing it on hearing. You were
five three as a freshman. Look, you're like literally you're
(28:21):
you're like the second tallest on the show. I'm like, what, dude,
on the on the on the show, I think I
graduate was like five ten or eleven. I didn't really
grow until after high school and then I you know,
added a couple of hours. Were you when you graduate?
Like you're like six three? No, like six too? Maybe? Yeah?
Oh my bad, Brady bad, I think you're six too? Yeah?
(28:47):
I think so? Yeah are you? Yeah? Maybe I'm taller
than you. Man, who cares? I'll be five eleven. I
couldn't care less. I mean, but to come from five three,
I mean you won in high School's what we're saying. Yeah,
just tiny. I mean I don't I don't think we
need to. I mean that's you know, can't you even
(29:11):
say dork and nerd. That's probably a slurred these days too. Yeah,
you probably can't even call nobody. Do you know the
names we used to say in the schoolyard when I
was a kid, that like people would hear and it
was like nobody even thought twice about it? Man, what
about which once we've been We've been down this road alright,
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Do Do Do Do lap Fellas. There's always been speculation
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over why Josh McDaniels backed out of his spoken deal
with the koltspeck In when he was looking to be
the head coach there well. According to a recent report,
it might have all come down to his wife Laura.
After a visit by Jim ever Stay to their house
in Massachusetts, she was a little her red flags went
up by his odd behavior at their house and in
an unusually long bathroom break, So what do we do?
(32:16):
He had to take a quick sour, That's all. I mean,
when you go over somebody's house, you won't. You don't
want to walk around disheveled or you know, bro, you
just want to clean yourself up. So he'd probably just
he well he welcomed himself to a little bit of
a shower. Can I be honest with you guys. So, so,
my dad, like you you know, he's a homebuilder. And
(32:38):
I remember thinking ask him, like, hey Dad, what's a
half bath? What's a full bath? He's like vault Chopper.
He's like, a half bath didn't have like a shower
and all that in it, you know, just has a
sink and soilet. I said, okay, I was like, well
why would why would someone want to have that. He's like, well,
sometimes you don't have, you know, room, and you need
to put in a half bath and that's just where
people go to the bathroom or wash their hands. He's like,
(32:59):
but Chopper, let me tell you something. He's if you
have the chance, you always put a shower in there
because you never know when someone might need to use it.
And I'm like, I don't understand. He goes, well, sometimes
the bathroom is it can get a little messy. He's like,
it's nice for your guests if you've got a shower
in there. Stick a shower off. So he literally was
trying to get me to understand that from here on out,
(33:20):
like to have as many full bathrooms as possible in
case someone craps themselves. So you think might have crapped himself.
I think there's a good chance that he either took
a shower because he crapped himself, or he wishes he
would have had a shower there to shower off after
probably having some issues. You do know the other name
for half bathroom? What's that? Uh? A powder room? Well, listen,
(33:48):
I mean that that's always that is what it's called.
What do you think powder in his nose? Well, that's
what you do in a powder race, Burdo, Is it true?
Is that true? You know about that powder room? Yeah?
They're usually like right in the like Yeah, what about
(34:10):
those Jalisco powder rooms? I mean aren't they right? There
are powder rooms like right near the entry of your
your entry of a house of stuff like that. Yeah,
who could have just been I wasn't making that accusation.
I was just saying he would. That's another name for
a bad lavator. Could have been seeing if it smelled good.
(34:31):
We have no idea. I'm not here to slander the
great name. I had a phone call, Hello, like he
might have needed private and the powder room for a
phone call. Now, let's let's address maybe he was maybe
he was calling dinosaurs on that big white phone. Maybe
let's address the odd behavior I have. I think, because look,
(34:55):
sometimes if you go to a place where you know
you're kind of feeling a little bit, you want to
have couple of drinks, but you know, if you push
it too far, maybe it'll be a bad look. Maybe
on the way there he got nice and looped up,
and by the time he arrived at Josh McDaniel's house,
he was already feeling it. And his wife said, well,
that's interesting. We invited him over for dinner and the
guy already can't stand up straight. So maybe there is
(35:17):
that issue. But when you get into stuff like that,
I mean, there's so many different moving elements, right, like
if it's a Christian family, if it's a Catholic family,
if it's a Muslim family, if it's usually it's like
kind of like religion. A lot of times where you'll
be in an environment. I don't know, McDaniels, I'm gonna
(35:37):
go on and limit say he's not Muslim. I'm just
I mean, you never know, you know, you just never
know that is he just never that is. I mean,
I'm just saying Catholic, I would assume, I mean he
might be you know, he might be Lutheran. You know,
it could have been Jehovah's witness, It could have been.
(35:59):
All I'm saying is is if you don't practice a
lot of the things that exactly, if they don't fit
within the culture, you're considered to be acting a little
you know, worldly. By the way. You know what's great
about this the Colts fans who can't stand the Patriots,
they're they're responsible for the deflate gate. They also complained
(36:22):
because this stuff happened with McDaniels. I love the fact
that it now comes out that potentially it's because your
owners are weirdoy. If you want to blame anybody, blame
your weirdo owner. Maybe he didn't take his his boots
off that he was wearing when he was leaning up
against a tree and singing his song. Some people are
very weird. Me about you can keeping your shoes on
(36:43):
when you walk through through a door. I don't even
leave you booties like you can put in house booty.
If you don't want to take your shoes off, put
some in house booties on your your shoes. But you know,
do you know where the bottoms of your shoes have been? Like?
And then you're gonna walk around where my kids are,
(37:04):
you know, maybe crawling around or they're dropping their toys
and stuff like that, and you just don't you know,
the one thing just just totally off subjects super quick.
The most disrespectful thing I can say, as it applies
the house etiquette is to sit on somebody else's couch
and put your feet up on like their their furniture.
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What's your shoes on? Yeah, Like that's wild to me.
I mean you do that? No, I mean I would
say overflowing the toilet's probably worse than that. I mean,
that's out of your control. I mean, I look, I
put my feet wherever I want to put them. I
will never invite you over my home. Will never be invited.
(37:47):
What else we got? Never invited over to his house.
We're gonna let that fly here this early. Thank you.
I accept that one. I received that, guys, and he missed.
Trevor Lawrence recently opened up about his uh the viral
videos and photos that showed him partying at the waffle house.
After that come back against the Chargers, he had talked
(38:09):
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at the waffle house. They said they tried to help
him out. He also opened up about his order, saying
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Brown's cheese and a Peak Con waffle. That's good and
good eating man post game like that. But do they
serve booze at waffle house anywhere? Think at some Denny's.
Sorry what you say, booze? I never heard of booze,
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whatever they're gonna call it super duper yeah, or they're
just gonna call it divisional Weekend, but we're getting closer.
Uh and uh listen. You know we're gonna have a
lot of storylines on these games coming up. But I mean,
apparently nobody can have individual goals anymore without getting criticized.
God forbid. Aaron Rodgers wants to have an m v
(01:45):
P Okay another MVP season. God forbid. Aaron Rodgers looks
at Tom Brady and says, hey, man, he may have
more Super Bowls than me, but we're tied for m
v P s. Maybe I'd like to take a leite
on that. Maybe I'd like to have something over Tom
Brady at the end of my career. But no, Rob
Gronkowski apparently not a fan of the the comments from
(02:06):
Aaron Rodgers a couple of days ago on the Pat
McAfee show, and so he was very critical of Aaron
Rodgers talking about m v P s and not super bowls.
Find with everything he said except one major part, and
that's the m v P. Again. It's just that I
think I think I could win another super Bowl and
(02:28):
then that would have been totally fine. Like like, bro,
like why are you thinking m v P, Like don't
you want super Bowls? Like super Bowls are I think
five times greater than than an m v P award
that we all know that you won the m v
P a few times now, but like you know, everyone
would everyone would know even more how many more super
Bowls you've won than m v P. So that that's
(02:50):
why I'm just a little confused about that, you know,
about that quote that he just had. I mean, it
should be super bowls. You should never be thinking the
m v P when when you want when super Bowls
are twice you have won four, he's won one and
and he's won how many m vps three I think
he's one, four, I think three. Manning's got five and
(03:13):
him and Brady have three. No, No, that's what I'm saying.
She asked Gronkowski how many super Bowls, not how many
m v ps. Gronkowski doesn't have any m vps. So
you're thinking that, kay, Adams, I just think I think
I'm sure he's won four, by the way, super Bowls,
(03:36):
not m VP of the league. Rob Gronkowski has been
an MVP of the league four times. No, she was
asking super Bowls. Yes, that's what I said. He's won
four and one with temp, I'm saying Rogers has one
four vs. Right, oh, almost cursed on on radio. That's
a lot four. Here's the thing, right for for why
(04:00):
am I seeing he's gotten This is odd? I'm saying. No, Now,
I'm saying he's only one three. Ye have no idea. Yeah, listen,
you know what. It's more than Gronk. It's more than grownks.
The point my kids just don't read everything you. It
is weird. I looked at I was like, yeah, I
(04:21):
guess he's got three, and the same with Brady and Peyton.
Manna's got five. So who knows. I think conventionally, conventional
wisdom of it it is four. Yeah, that's what I
thought I saw, But then there's something else. I always said.
Three is there like a co m VP? Is that why?
(04:43):
I'm not sure? By the way, I love it, Lee
was quick on that. It's almost like it was a
really quick it's just seeing quick time. It's more shockingly
came to my defense out there did a life raft.
They're looking it up. Only are always like on the
same page. I know baby Lee's got my back now,
And that's the case. I mean, wouldn't wouldn't winning an
m v P beg to say that you're doing everything
(05:07):
humanly possible to win? Isn't that why you're considered to
be the most valuable player? Okay, here's here's how I'll
try to answer this. Okay, Um, I think it distinguishes
you obviously is the best player in the league. It
kind of elevates you and separates you from everyone else.
And in this case, I think with Aaron Rodgers, he's
(05:30):
okay with that award and that being distinguished from everyone
else because it gives you this sense of feeling of superiority.
But because he knows he's never gonna catch Tom Brady
with Super bowls, right, he knows ultimately his legacy is
not going to be that because he's too far along
(05:51):
in his career to be able to come even close
to that. I mean he should, I mean, I think
Gronkowski's point is he should be want to try to
get a second one because other wise, like really with
with four m vps, everyone looks at him and says, yeah,
but only one super Bowl. And I think a lot
of people sit there and go, well, blame the organization,
(06:12):
blame their Green Bay packers. They didn't do enough out
around him. But did they like, well, when you really
look at it, when you really like kind of digest
all of it, was that the problem? I mean that
that's the hard thing is there's there's no debate about
the greatness of Tom Brady. And and you can use
m vps as an example, super Bowls are used. But
(06:34):
he's also the type of player that, because he's done
in two separate places too, you see that he's able
to elevate the level of play of everyone else around him.
Like that's the difference. It's like high tides raised all boats.
So Tom Brady is that high tide in Tampa, or
at least was when he got there and he got
them a Super Bowl. You know that. That's That's what
(06:56):
I think Groun Kelsey is trying to basic articulate, is that,
you know that should be the goal of Aaron Rodgers
at this point in his career. No one's ever gonna
sit there and say he's not one of the most
talented quarterbacks to ever play the game. The problem is
whether it's right, wrong or indifferent or if he disagrees
with it, you're only going to remember the Super Bowls
(07:17):
that he won. I mean, think about it, we right
now can't. We are proving Gronk's point. We literally can't
even remember they went three four. That's that's the most
distinguishing words you could have at the NFL three and
a half. I wouldn't be able to remember how many
Super Bowls Tom Brady has played in or or has won. Seven.
I wouldn't remember, That's all I'm saying, because he's played
(07:39):
in that many though, But I'll say this, you're you're
one of the few because most people will be able
to remember that because no one's ever done anything like that.
I know whatever. I know, no one's ever played as
in as many. I know that, and I think that
that's why I don't work to figure out or commit
to memory how many he's won or how many he's
even played in. I don't think I think it's interesting
(08:01):
when somebody gets criticized for having a I mean, I
think it's a given one one kind of goes with
the other, which success goes with success. It's like, why
does it have to be a criticism that he wants
to be the m v P, Like why is that
such a bad thing? Like I don't understand that, Like
it turns into like this conversation of it being selfish
(08:22):
or or all kinds of different, you know, connotations about
what that represents. But if he's trying to be the
best that he can be personally, and and that's a
part of what his goal his goal list is, So
what right why I take exception to it because I
think it's the ultimate team sport and I think as
(08:43):
a quarterback, you're looked at the guy who's supposed to
want to win championships, you know, not not individual. I
think that's kind of cliche. I think it's kind of
not though, like that's the reality. But my opinion is
that it So that's great your opinion, but it's not
out of fact and I'm speaking as a player. I don't.
(09:04):
I'm a player. You're not different than another player. You're no,
you're You're the same. But guess what, when people want
to hear something said, they don't look to the linebacker.
They don't look to the D line, they don't look
to the old line, they don't look through the receiver.
They look at the quarterback. That's the player they looked to.
Sometimes not all the time. I mean, it doesn't matter
if if you're established a property right now, they don't
(09:25):
think people want to hear about what he has to
say or what he's I don't know. I don't think so.
Not as a leader, I disagree with that. I wouldn't so.
So I think the point is more just you'd like
to hear him even if that's his individual goal. That's fine,
Like everyone knows that, Like who doesn't want to be that?
But you? But why doesn't anyone know he wants to
(09:47):
win a super Bowl? So he has to say I
want to win a super Bowl even if what he
feels is I want to win an m v P
like he suld. He should make sure that's part of
the priority when he's communicating that, right, that's all, I
don't have a problem with that. But I just don't
have a problem. I have a problem with people having
a problem when somebody said if if you said something
like that, the first thing people say, Oh, that's so selfish,
(10:10):
Like he's not thinking, Like why wouldn't he be thinking
about his team. He can't throw the ball to himself,
he can't hand the ball off to himself, he can't
block for himself, like all these things that go into
him being able to win an m v P and
the and the most team oriented sport in all of sports,
which I'll agree with that he can't do it on
(10:31):
his own. So to me, I think it's just kind
of a foregone conclusion. You need a Gronkowski, if you're
Tom Brady, you need You're kind of making my point though, right,
Like it's the ultimate team sports, so that should be
part of that. Like if you're if you're up for
the Super Bowl, you're up for the m v P.
I mean sometimes sometimes, I mean, he won the m
(10:52):
v P that two years they made a run to
the NFC Championship Game. He's not up for the m
v P this year. They I mean, he wasn't very
good this year. Like like the m v P doesn't
go to a player who's on a losing team, it
goes to a player In fact, I don't think it
ever has I understand that. But again to be so critical,
(11:12):
like in that moment, like why isn't he talking about
super Bowls? Sure, you want to win a super Bowl.
I just feel like that's a given. But if he's
speaking on his own terms and how he feels about it,
I don't see why having a high goal and you
say that that's you're high. He didn't say I rather?
Did he say I rather? I don't think I I
I don't think what the other Here's here's the other
(11:32):
thing is you know, Gronkowski's taking a sound bite and
then and taking and running with it. If you listen
to the entire interview, he's more stating it as a
matter of how what level he wants to play at,
Like that's more what it's it's talking about, like getting
back to the level he was playing at the previous
two years. And in my mind, that's what that's. I mean,
(11:53):
if somebody's talking about winning m vps versus somebody who
doesn't get recognized so much as a player, Yes, and uh,
super Bowl? Is is your ultimate goal because you're never
going to get recognized on that level anyway. Do you
think if Rogers had his choice, you could give up
one of your m vps for another show that Now
(12:14):
that's a more relevant question would But if if that
isn't what was asked and as a matter of how
he responded, yeah, we don't even know if it. Listen,
just called three and a half. Can we just call
the Pro Football Reference? And just because it's because there
was a co MVP here, I don't know. I saw
(12:35):
three No, no co m v P. Let's co MVP
was Brett Farve with Barry sad Verry Sandard. I remember that.
So that's why I was like, maybe he was a
co m VP. That's why I'm seeing it. But like,
by the way, kids just don't trust the internet, all right,
Like clearly I looked up found tutor for results. All right.
So someone's either being lazy out there or there's some
confusing stuff going on. Yeah, there's a there's a lot
to it. But what is confusing is Aaron Rodgers wants
(12:57):
to win another league m v P. That isn't confusing.
That's what he wants. Are you guys surprised, Like, I know,
he's won the one Super Bowl, Are you surprised he
hasn't even been back to another one? Yes, that's that's
that's what I think. The greater point is probably by
Rob that wasn't really well articulated, is he's always got one.
(13:18):
And I think if people, if you would have asked
people when Aaron Rodgers won that Super you would have
thought he had three by now. And we think about
Dan Brino d years ago. Dan Barrino went to what
a Super was second year and that was it and
that was it. Like if you would have asked people that,
people have said, no way, Danny Marino doesn't win multiple
(13:38):
Super Bowls. I mean people still compare everyone's throwing motion,
their arm and all. That's the Dan Marino. I mean
that that's the reality. Is I don't feel like that
to find you because Jim Kelly went to four in
a row. No, I mean, I don't know. I mean,
I don't think anybody's done that yet, right, I don't.
No one's going to row. I mean with a four
in a row and lost all of them, I know.
(14:00):
And that's and that's and ultimately that's part of the
legacy though, right it is. But but I don't define
Jim Kelly's greatness based off of all them losses. I
define the greatness that he was actually good enough as
the quarterback ticket there four years in a row, no doubt,
same thing. But I think that's gonna be the same
thing with Aaron Rodgers, though he was good enough to
win and talent enough to be a four time m
(14:22):
v P maybe five if he comes back. But if
you only have one super Bowl, you go man like,
that's part of the legacy. His conversation for greatness is
based off of Super Bowls. He he will never be
in the conversation. So if he wants to be in
the conversation of greatest of all time, he probably is
articulating his only like, and I think you said that earlier,
(14:44):
his only opportunity to even be in the conversation of
the greatest of all time is through personal accomplishments. So
I mean that's the bottom line of it. Look at
Eli Manning and Philip Rivers Like, there's a question as
to whether or not Eli Manning is going to be
a Hall of Famer based on the Super Bowls. If
you were to go resume for resume, just individual accomplishments.
(15:06):
Eli Manning is not close to Philip Rivers. But Philip
Rivers is nowhere in the conversation of being a Hall
of Famer because those two damn Super Bowls and other
than those two Super Bowl years, Eli Manning never won
another playoff game. But because of those two, how many
m vps that Philip Rivers win? I don't know. I mean,
I can't think anyone. I don't think any so. But
(15:28):
as far as all pros and and I don't think
you run all probe, I think he has been a
pro Bowl alveram many times. I'm just saying that's where
that's There's there's levels to this a lot of kids,
there's levels. Well he wins that, he wins the MVP
on there's there. But there you're talking about somebody who
has won the MVP Award, like not, we're not talking
about We're not talking about someone who hasn't versus someone
(15:51):
who someone else who hasn't. So I could care less
about comparing Eli Manning to Philip Rivers. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
just because to me, their careers in terms of what
they accomplished, is they'rrelevant to the conversation as it applies
to someone like Aaron Rodgers. It just is it peals
in comparison to what Aaron Rodgers has been able to
(16:11):
to to accomplish. I just don't understand why it's a
big deal. If he wants to try to play at
an m VP level again, and and and if playing
at m VP level leads to me becoming an m
v P, that means that my personal my personal approach
to the game was at so such a high level
that I was recognized for being the most valuable to
(16:33):
my team or the most valuable player in all of
the league. I just don't see that. While I am
and and listen, I make this point being a team leader,
like I've been a captain of of teams, I don't
put myself ever before my teammates. Ever. I never put
myself before my teammates. In fact, when I'm ready to quit,
(16:55):
or when I'm tired or I'm ready to throw up
or pass out, I think about my teammates. Somebody else
is ready to do the same thing. Somebody else is
pushing through the pain. I've always been that guy. So
I'm not saying this from a selfish standpoint. I'm just saying,
why such the like the you know, malice towards it,
or why it's such a like an intense criticism towards
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a guy wanting to win a personal award. Make it
either or it doesn't. It doesn't have to be an
either or. He made a point about wanting to play
at the m v P level. I think more often
than not, if you win the super Bowl, inherently, if
you're the quarterback and you probably had a great year, right,
you're probably the number one seed in that conference, you're
(17:39):
probably um one of the best quarterbacks that year in
the league. So inherently comes the m v P discussion, right,
I mean, go through Matt Ryan's best year went to
the super Bowl. That was the year when the m
v P. Like, if you if you are in the
hunt in contention for a Super Bowl, like Patrick Mahomes,
who's gonna win it this year? Is the number one C?
The a f C will be That inherently kind of
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comes with the m v P converse. So then wouldn't
you agree? I mean, and we can agree to disagree,
but we can agree to agree on possibly wouldn't you agree?
That is making the point that I just made like
it's making the point that you're right, You're right about
saying what you're saying as it applies to the team effort.
And and so my point is, if you let me finish,
is if you talk about a super Bowl inherently that
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comes to the m v P, people don't hear it
as a team goal when you don't include anyone. What
you're saying, well, I want to win the m v P.
You know what I'm saying, Like if Lebron was able
to say that in basketball, right, which is much easier
to do that. In basketball, you're thinking like, well, he
could win the m v P, and they don't have
to win the championship like different sports. When you apply it,
you can win the m v P and they don't
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really even have to be so much in contention for
the championship. I mean, maybe they're a playoff team, maybe
they're not, but it just it doesn't encompass the team.
You know, when you encompassed the team first by saying, well,
I think if we want a super Bowl, if we
want a super Bowl, I know the individual awards and
act lads will come along with that. He's right, But
if you say I just want to win an m
v P. Then it's it's not really giving you that
(19:06):
that leeway for including like everyone else. Yeah, I mean
I don't like again, I don't disagree with that. I
just don't understand why people would get and I do
I get it, Well, I don't want to do because
someone probably played a sound bite and no one actually
listened to the entire interview to understand the context of
what he was talking about. And that's always, by the way,
(19:28):
that's what we do in society. We see a thirty
forty second clip and that's it. I mean, he no
no offense to the folks at Fox Sports Radio. Behind
the scenes, everyone does a great job. There are times
we clip off stuff we played on social media just
to get a reaction so people click. And if you
actually listen to the entire segment, you hear like twelve
minutes of it, not two minutes of it. You know, Yeah, well,
(19:48):
hey listen. I mean Jonas is the most selfish do
he wants to win awards for? My philosophy is you
want to feel like a ten hang out with a
bunch of threes and uh, And that's just the way
I go down I'll have to feel that pressure. And
I'm not threatening and I'm and by the way, I'm
not mad at you fulfilling that way. That's fine. I
(20:09):
see the way you walk every day. You don't hold
it against him that he's got a show and he
just named it his own name. No, I mean, think
about the difference between you two. You have the up
on Game Network, which you know's a part of your squad,
your team, your company team, and then you've got showing us.
He just has his dame on the show, which, by
the way, I'm glad he brought it up two to
four Eastern time on Saturday Pacific. So just think about. Right,
(20:31):
there's the difference. And then you got a bunch of
threes leading into him, you know what I mean, it
makes him feel really good good. I mean, Berna, we're
gonna let that fly is called himself threes. I mean,
we're gonna we're gonna let that fly what. By the way,
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am Easter,
three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio. Yeah yeah, yeah, a little Alison Chains, Yeah
yeah yeah. H school weight room, Oh yeahs on each side.
(21:42):
Probably not at all? Were you that? Were you that
small in high school? Uh? Like true true story. We
are freshman year, by the way, Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio. Our freshman year,
we had to write down our first day of school.
Like we're gonna make a little a time capsule here.
(22:03):
We're gonna write down your interests, your height, your weight,
things like that, and then when you graduate, before you graduate,
we'll go back and look and see how much has
changed in the last four years and I'd forgotten about it.
And then final week of high school, we go back
and look at this thing in our English class. I
was five three and wade eighty nine pounds my first
(22:24):
day of high school. Wow, I could I could have
picked you up and held you like a baby when
I when I hear you guys talk about like, oh,
I was dunking at fourteen and I was six ft
two and six three. Yeah, that wasn't me. It's just
but I went to six ft three in the sixth grade. Yeah,
(22:47):
but I never grew another inch. And there's there's theories
out there about it, but I'll never I started lifting.
I've heard that if you lift too soon. I mean
I went to six three in the sixth grade. I
started lifting. I started lifting hard in the sixth grade.
(23:09):
I started like doing squats and benches and curls and
all that that s. Yeah, you know what's going Well,
I just said, maybe the problem was I started lifting
in like second grade, and so that stuff that could
be what it is. He's you're half joking. But so
when I was nine, I had uh we used to
pitch like every game in baseball, and by the time
(23:30):
I got to ten, I had like a growth plate
that was out of place my right arm, so I
literally couldn't like they wouldn't let me throw that entire year. Um,
and some part of the rehab that I had to do,
and I don't I don't know how this was part
of the rehab was I literally had to do like
curls and different exercises with dumbbells when I was ten
(23:51):
years old. So i'd i'd be doing these different types
of curls and like foearm and like arm exercises to
help my growth play go back in place. That was
my rehab, and I did it religiously because I was
so frustrated, Like I had to sit at first base
and I would threaten to throw, like God forbid, we
gotta runner on first and someone rips a groundball at me,
(24:13):
I can't throw a second to turn the double play,
Like I'm basically running the first tipping the bag and
I'm threatening to throw, and that I underhand the top
of the ball back to the picture. Because we didn't
have like a d H or anything. And so I
made it through the entire year no one realizing this.
Um somehow, as a dumb question, you have to see
(24:36):
what the funny thing is. It was forced to do curls.
That's what I'm saying. Like that was ten years old.
I'm thinking to myself, like I know that that's what
started me getting into weightlifting, because then I got curious.
My dad was like, all right, let's see if you
could do one rep and on the bench. But the
meat a life chose you. You didn't choose it. I mean, honestly,
(24:58):
he was se he probably sent me to a doctor
that wasn't either a legit doctor. You know, was it
pig Was it pig iron? Waits that because I did
the same the same, the same thing that happened with me.
I used my dad used to work out in the
basement and it was pig iron like uh, like you know,
one with sand in them and stuff like that. It
wasn't like, oh no, these were like these were like
(25:20):
metal metal that had like like I pinched my finger
on that a couple of times and he would just
look at me and be like, what are you doing?
All you said a growth plate in your army about
They were telling me about the growth plates in my
foot because I kept spraying my ankles because I was
jumping really high and I kept jacking my ankles up
(25:42):
and they're like, yeah, you you fractured like or you
you you have like something going on. Something was going on,
and they were like, it's where your growth plates are.
So I'm just wondering. I'm just I'm just your growth plate.
I just I just wonder if you had growth plates
in different parts of your body. If you jack one up,
(26:04):
do you have like short arms or little legs, but
the rest of your body continues because the growth plates
are open and the different like my arm might be longer.
What if you close a growth plate and your left arm,
you know, or you you injure it or whatever, and
your growth plate is just finding your right arm. Like,
(26:27):
I'm just cured that. I mean when I heard you
say that, because I didn't think about growth plates anywhere
else other than like your legs. Anyways, it's just a
random yeah, No, I just you gotta it's the it's
the growth plates. And and man, if you know, if
you needed information on that back of the day, you
couldn't just google it. Like if we wanted information on
how many m vps rogers wanted, you couldn't google it, Right, Brady,
(26:48):
you had to like send away for it. What is
the number? Do we have an official number? I don't know.
I mean back in the day, you'd have to send
away in the mail for it. I know that, that's sure.
Do have an official number right now? I believe it's four.
It's four, Yeah, it is four. I guess A b's
growth plate was never interrupted. Never was. But again a
(27:12):
B as well too, if you had to send away
for that, I mean, but he's short, maybe interrupted his
growth plates and other other reasons. Yeah, could have. Maybe
you got hitting that Bengals game. It's stunted something. But
you know. But again, all of this information if you
needed it at one point now, you'd have to send
(27:34):
away in the mail for it. And the only way
you can send away in the mail for that stuff
is if you include a little something on the in
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(27:59):
was waiting for or your your Tea store a segment
pal it was, it was a great tea. It was
behind the scenes radio formattic. Usually usually Jonah gives us
a tease that I can segue into that. But unfortunately
that was a good land that wasn't played. H you know,
I mean, we weren't playing it on hearing. You were
five three as a freshman. Look, you're like literally you're
(28:21):
you're like the second tallest on the show. I'm like, what, dude,
on the on the on the show, I think I
graduate was like five ten or eleven. I didn't really
grow until after high school and then I you know,
added a couple of hours. Were you when you graduate?
Like you're like six three? No, like six too? Maybe? Yeah?
Oh my bad, Brady bad, I think you're six too? Yeah?
(28:47):
I think so? Yeah are you? Yeah? Maybe I'm taller
than you. Man, who cares? I'll be five eleven. I
couldn't care less. I mean, but to come from five three,
I mean you won in high School's what we're saying. Yeah,
just tiny. I mean I don't I don't think we
need to. I mean that's you know, can't you even
(29:11):
say dork and nerd. That's probably a slurred these days too. Yeah,
you probably can't even call nobody. Do you know the
names we used to say in the schoolyard when I
was a kid, that like people would hear and it
was like nobody even thought twice about it? Man, what
about which once we've been We've been down this road alright,
(29:37):
and I will not say it on air. It is
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Do Do Do Do lap Fellas. There's always been speculation
(31:47):
over why Josh McDaniels backed out of his spoken deal
with the koltspeck In when he was looking to be
the head coach there well. According to a recent report,
it might have all come down to his wife Laura.
After a visit by Jim ever Stay to their house
in Massachusetts, she was a little her red flags went
up by his odd behavior at their house and in
an unusually long bathroom break, So what do we do?
(32:16):
He had to take a quick sour, That's all. I mean,
when you go over somebody's house, you won't. You don't
want to walk around disheveled or you know, bro, you
just want to clean yourself up. So he'd probably just
he well he welcomed himself to a little bit of
a shower. Can I be honest with you guys. So, so,
my dad, like you you know, he's a homebuilder. And
(32:38):
I remember thinking ask him, like, hey Dad, what's a
half bath? What's a full bath? He's like vault Chopper.
He's like, a half bath didn't have like a shower
and all that in it, you know, just has a
sink and soilet. I said, okay, I was like, well
why would why would someone want to have that. He's like, well,
sometimes you don't have, you know, room, and you need
to put in a half bath and that's just where
people go to the bathroom or wash their hands. He's like,
(32:59):
but Chopper, let me tell you something. He's if you
have the chance, you always put a shower in there
because you never know when someone might need to use it.
And I'm like, I don't understand. He goes, well, sometimes
the bathroom is it can get a little messy. He's like,
it's nice for your guests if you've got a shower
in there. Stick a shower off. So he literally was
trying to get me to understand that from here on out,
(33:20):
like to have as many full bathrooms as possible in
case someone craps themselves. So you think might have crapped himself.
I think there's a good chance that he either took
a shower because he crapped himself, or he wishes he
would have had a shower there to shower off after
probably having some issues. You do know the other name
for half bathroom? What's that? Uh? A powder room? Well, listen,
(33:48):
I mean that that's always that is what it's called.
What do you think powder in his nose? Well, that's
what you do in a powder race, Burdo, Is it true?
Is that true? You know about that powder room? Yeah?
They're usually like right in the like Yeah, what about
(34:10):
those Jalisco powder rooms? I mean aren't they right? There
are powder rooms like right near the entry of your
your entry of a house of stuff like that. Yeah,
who could have just been I wasn't making that accusation.
I was just saying he would. That's another name for
a bad lavator. Could have been seeing if it smelled good.
(34:31):
We have no idea. I'm not here to slander the
great name. I had a phone call, Hello, like he
might have needed private and the powder room for a
phone call. Now, let's let's address maybe he was maybe
he was calling dinosaurs on that big white phone. Maybe
let's address the odd behavior I have. I think, because look,
(34:55):
sometimes if you go to a place where you know
you're kind of feeling a little bit, you want to
have couple of drinks, but you know, if you push
it too far, maybe it'll be a bad look. Maybe
on the way there he got nice and looped up,
and by the time he arrived at Josh McDaniel's house,
he was already feeling it. And his wife said, well,
that's interesting. We invited him over for dinner and the
guy already can't stand up straight. So maybe there is
(35:17):
that issue. But when you get into stuff like that,
I mean, there's so many different moving elements, right, like
if it's a Christian family, if it's a Catholic family,
if it's a Muslim family, if it's usually it's like
kind of like religion. A lot of times where you'll
be in an environment. I don't know, McDaniels, I'm gonna
(35:37):
go on and limit say he's not Muslim. I'm just
I mean, you never know, you know, you just never
know that is he just never that is. I mean,
I'm just saying Catholic, I would assume, I mean he
might be you know, he might be Lutheran. You know,
it could have been Jehovah's witness, It could have been.
(35:59):
All I'm saying is is if you don't practice a
lot of the things that exactly, if they don't fit
within the culture, you're considered to be acting a little
you know, worldly. By the way. You know what's great
about this the Colts fans who can't stand the Patriots,
they're they're responsible for the deflate gate. They also complained
(36:22):
because this stuff happened with McDaniels. I love the fact
that it now comes out that potentially it's because your
owners are weirdoy. If you want to blame anybody, blame
your weirdo owner. Maybe he didn't take his his boots
off that he was wearing when he was leaning up
against a tree and singing his song. Some people are
very weird. Me about you can keeping your shoes on
(36:43):
when you walk through through a door. I don't even
leave you booties like you can put in house booty.
If you don't want to take your shoes off, put
some in house booties on your your shoes. But you know,
do you know where the bottoms of your shoes have been? Like?
And then you're gonna walk around where my kids are,
(37:04):
you know, maybe crawling around or they're dropping their toys
and stuff like that, and you just don't you know,
the one thing just just totally off subjects super quick.
The most disrespectful thing I can say, as it applies
the house etiquette is to sit on somebody else's couch
and put your feet up on like their their furniture.
(37:27):
What's your shoes on? Yeah, Like that's wild to me.
I mean you do that? No, I mean I would
say overflowing the toilet's probably worse than that. I mean,
that's out of your control. I mean, I look, I
put my feet wherever I want to put them. I
will never invite you over my home. Will never be invited.
(37:47):
What else we got? Never invited over to his house.
We're gonna let that fly here this early. Thank you.
I accept that one. I received that, guys, and he missed.
Trevor Lawrence recently opened up about his uh the viral
videos and photos that showed him partying at the waffle house.
After that come back against the Chargers, he had talked
(38:09):
about trying to clear out space to reserve a spot
at the waffle house. They said they tried to help
him out. He also opened up about his order, saying
he got a Texas Bake and Cheese steak with Hash
Brown's cheese and a Peak Con waffle. That's good and
good eating man post game like that. But do they
serve booze at waffle house anywhere? Think at some Denny's.
Sorry what you say, booze? I never heard of booze,
(38:38):
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