January 24, 2023 • 47 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Patrick Mahomes plans on playing through his high ankle sprain, the Bengals will continue to play boogey-man or kryptonite to the Chiefs and Zac Taylor is an example of why teams should be patient with coaches. The guys side with Ed Reed who was disrespected by Bethune-Cookman. The Patriots hire Bill O’Brien as their new OC, reuniting with Mac Jones, and Sean Payton gets some competition in his hunt for a head coaching job.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
He's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Area, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
four Radio. So the big story injury wise heading into
the Conference championship games this weekend is the situation with
Patrick Mahomes, who suffered the high ankle sprain in Sunday
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or excuse me Saturdays when over the Jacksonville Jaguars and
so Andy Reid, the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs,
he updated the media on the status of Patrick Mahomes yesterday.
As far as injuries go, really Patrick is the main one,
and as you guys know, he hurt his ankle, so
it's uh, that's uh, you know, it's been a report
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of this high ankle sprain so pre accurate. He's uh
worked hard um in the treatment and is doing okay.
He told you guys, I mean he mentioned it to
you that he's gonna play, So I mean that's uh,
that's his mindset. Then we'll just take a day by
day and see how he does. So that's the plan.
It looks like Patrick Mahomes is gonna play this weekend
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against the Cincinnati Bengals. The Boogeyman of the Kansas City Chiefs.
But I don't know, man, I just look at the
situation and I go history. Joe Burrow Mahomes on one
leg doesn't feel too promising for Kansas City heading into
this weekend. You always see the Boogeyman. You know, the
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Boogeyman is not real. What Cincinnati has been to Casey
is like their kryptonite. Like Casey has kind of been
like Superman, and it's been Cincinnati every time goes in there,
and all of a sudden, Casey just doesn't look the
same for whatever reason. Why it's Joe Burrow the defense
stepping up, Like That's how I kind of described this matchup. More.
Are you saying that Kryptonite's more real than the Boogeyman? Yes?
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I am. And this instance he's saying, yes, I understood
what he was saying. Let let him finish his point
continue on. It was a valid question though, it really was. Um,
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this is the only team that Casey plays that makes
you like watch them and go oh, they feel the
pressure of it, like they feel like they can't beat
this team and they haven't been able to since Burrows
got there. It's it's whatever it is, it's just a kryptonite.
But from homes and the injury. You know, he went
through this high a spring. I want to say, what nineteen, um,
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So he's been through it before. You know. Andy Reid
said yesterday that that one was actually worse. They don't
feel like this one was to that extent before anyone
who's who's played. Like, when you go through an injury
at the time it happens in the game, it can
be bad, but you can make it through because of
all that adrenaline rushing through your body. Once you get
out after that game, the next couple of days, that's
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when it gets sore. That's when it's difficult because you're
gonna have to go through all that treamant stinks. I
don't imagine he's gonna practice much this week, um, and
so the preparation is gonna feel a little different for him.
But as long as he can get out there, sit
in that pocket and throw it around, that's all that matters.
Because he can play on one leg. Like, he's one
of the most unique talented players who can throw the
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football because of his arm, his upper body towrdso his
ability to make those throws, he can do it. You
wouldn't say that about almost every quarterback, but you'd say
that about Patrick Mahome was because of his unique talent,
skill set, and probably all the different pieces they have too.
I even think Andy Reid can game planning around it
to a certain degree as well. Yeah, I don't count
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him out. I'm I'm curious. Like they said, he didn't
have to use a walking boot when he left the stadium,
which to me is probably was the best best piece
of information to get once once you start coming down
off of off of that stional high after the game
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is over, they generally if if it's if it's a
really really severe high ankle spring, he's going to need
a boot. In fact, if it was a severe ankle spring,
he probably would not have been able to return to
that game. And I mean he he was. He was
definitely hobbled really bad, but he still finished and he
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was able, Like as as the game went on, he
got a little bit more adjusted to, you know, being
able to move on on that that foot. But I
still go back to the original point that you guys made,
is that Cincinnati plays Kansas City so well, but they're
playing them, they do get him at home, and I
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think that that is Wait wait, wait is this a
neutral Sade game. No, that's that's what they get they
it would have been right right right, Okay, I get confused.
Sometimes they do get him out. But the uh on
the weekend, which by the way, which by the way,
I got called all kinds of bad things saying that
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I like neutral sites until all you you know out
there that supported home game home field advantage, I mean,
good for you. Um uh. But yeah, you know, I
think that that will play a part. That he doesn't
have to travel, right, I mean, if you take into
consideration having to fly, you know, he's not gonna have
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to get on the airplane. That could play a major
part at the circulation. Um. Yeah, it could make It
could take a uh, it could play a part in this.
So there's there are little things that are wins for
Kansas City going into this this week and going into
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this game. Um. And I think I think the fact
that they have been Kansas City's kryptonite. I think that
that kind of lais into the advantage of Kansas City
this week. I just had that feeling, um in terms
of what Andy Reid and and Eric b Enemy and
and and Spagnola, you know this is gonna be a
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Spags game. You know, his defense is gonna have to
step up. They're they're going to have to play some
inspired football and it'll be interesting to see if they
can slow down this Bengals d I mean this Bengal's
offense because I don't I have to watching them last week,
and and I'll say this, the one caveat that I
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have coming into this week is what will the weather be?
Because I don't I don't think that Kansas City will
be impacted by the weather the way that Buffalo was.
I just think that the Bengals were more suited to
handle that game than than what the Buffalo Bills were.
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I don't see that being the case with Kansas City.
I feel like the playing field will still be even
if if there is snow. But I do think that
this is one of those games where the defenses are
going to be critical. The Kansas City defense will be
tremendously critical to to the success or failure of Kansas
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City this week. As far as the odds go, the
gambling odds yesterday when we opened the show, you had
the Kansas City Chiefs and one and a half point
favorite in most places it's now gone on the reverse,
so it's now gone back over the even point, and
now Cincinnati is a one and a half point favorite
on their side. So took about twenty four hours for
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people to say, you know what, that's a good point.
Kryptonite or the boogeyman. This could be a problem for
Kansas City with a one lady to revisit it. You
had to revisit it. He had to go back ten dollars.
I'm bringing it all. Then that's that's called book ending
the topic here right that that is the radio roadcasting.
One O one quick question you guys, um Zach Taylor,
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what do you think his record is as a head coach?
And you have to answer, you can't look it up, Jonas,
I'm come like I'm gonna cheat, please, I would have
I wouldn't have any idea. But if you were to
ask me as he over five hundred, I would say
it's very close. I would say not, so I'll cut
it off before Jonas can look it up. I wasn't
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looking it up. He's under five hundred, even even if
you included the playoffs, which he's been incredible in the playoffs. Right,
he's five and one thus far um. But it's just
crazy to think about how Cincinnati, like you got to
give their ownership structure a lot of credit. There were
to win team in they were a four win team
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the next year, and then they stayed the course. They
saw the light at the end of the tunnel Tenant seven,
twelve and four. Now they're here in back to back
a championship game games with another chance to go to
a super Bowl and potentially win one. Like the only
reason I bring that up is because you know, at
some point we'll talk about Sean Payne today, because he
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keeps interviewing for jobs and make sure his name is
out there. But there are teams looking for head coaches,
and it's because they pull out the rug from underneath
them relatively soon, and they never let him get even
to year three where they see what they're capable of doing,
or allow them to have a plan put in place
and then find the players they need to be successful.
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And I think Zach Taylor is an example of what
a lot of owners need to look at and say,
maybe maybe we were lacked impatience. Maybe this next guy
we hire or we need to give some time to
actually go out there and win some games and provide
him with what he needs to go out there and
win some games. I mean, obviously a lot of it
has to do with Joe Burrow being there, but I
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mean he was six and twenty five and one his
first two years. Today he's NFL with some of these owners.
David Tepper, you probably yeah, And now you look at
him in if you include playoffs, he's thirty three seven
at one. And there were a lot of people, by
the way, that early on in Zach Taylor's time there,
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they said, oh, so you thought Marvin Lewis was the problem.
Like there were people that were already taking their victory laps, going,
this is a terrible higher, this is a bad move.
This is one of these Sean McVeigh knockoffs. He's a young,
offensive minded head coach, and you you sent Marvin Lewis packing,
and now this is what you get. And they've completely
turned around the course of the franchise. By the way,
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Lavari asked about the weather, I did reach out a
couple of sources. Uh in the six four, one to nine,
that is the location of Arrowhead Stadium. Brady quinnoses legendary Kansas. Yeah,
come on, that's what I do here. I mean this
is usually people go with the area coach. Well, I mean, well,
I do this zip coach here because obvitually, like Lavarno's,
you got codes, you know, yeah, I got pros. Yeah,
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in different area code nine to be exact. Eleven degrees
on Sunday night. Eleven degrees winds right now north north
by the way north to northeast. That's the direction of
the wind flow eleven miles as well too. Oh yeah,
there's there's gonna be a win there a little wait
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impact the kicking game war in Passing. So we're gonna
get some frigid temperature that's gonna be bone chilling cold.
It's not that cold, but it's it's cold. Eleven degrees
it is. I don't need to say, just say stick city, yeah,
sticks city degrees. Yeah. Hey, I got off the plane
last night in in northern Virginia and uh, it's not
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even that cold in Virginia and I'm freezing. I got
so soft, guys, like I used to be somebody man.
Now now yeah, I'm hard anymore at all. Jonas Jonas
told me that he said you should see last time
you guys been student. He said, you should see how
soft lavars. Well, now that's that's not true. I did
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think you bring it in the heater. Problem, do you
bring it in the heater was a little bit of
an issue like that. That seemed like a clearly clearly
you clearly took issue with it the entire time. Oh
I'm burning up, Oh I'm sweating. It was hot. I'll
be well. First of all, I will be freezing in that.
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If you hadn't noticed, I had been wearing my super
super super winter eyes big coat coming up in there. Um,
but imagine I'm cold there, So imagine being somewhere else,
especially on the East coast. You've seen my pale complexion.
You know I burned easily. I got a sunburned two
days ago that I'm stealing a denial with. If you
shined a flashlight in my eyes, I'd have to go
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into surgery. So you bring it in the heater causes problems,
especially this yar you you were I mean que He
was complained. He was very passive, impressive. He wanted he
wanted me to turn it off. So he wanted to say,
for the love of God, please turn off the space eater.
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After we after what I saw you and burt O
do on your way out of the studio yesterday. That
kind of might have been the funniest deal. It was like,
I can't even I didn't kind it was like dueling. Yeah,
it was dueling fireworks, you know, like everybody. Everybody wanted
to fly theirs off. And you guys just right at
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each other at the Okay Corral and then left, and
I couldn't breathe. I was laughing so hard. Couple of
adult men taking turns against each other all the way out.
I turned my cheek and then you turn your cheek.
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We let him aimed at each other, you know, like
when you know, like in those cartoons when the Sorceress
they start shooting their powers and you gotta see which one,
which one is stronger than the other, and eventually somebody's
power takes over to other person's. I just got out
of the room. I wasn't staying there to see we
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could overpower anybody. I got fired and rolled out. You
just unbelievable. It is too person. He was catching the
off guard like he thought he was. But I was
ready for it, hey, Q, I was ready for You
guys are just dirty human It's just dirty human being
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. So what the
hell happened with Ed Read and Bethune Cookman. I'm really
confused because there's too much? How are you confused? He
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pretty much laid it out. So he's upset that, like
his office wasn't clean and some others. So he went
to social media and complained about the conditions. Watch the
whole video. Well, yeah, like, but I don't understand if
he signed the deal. He didn't sign the deal. Okay,
so the deal hadn't been signed yet, but he was
already moving everything in and being a part of the
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program and taking things over. Like that's correct. So who
got cold feet? It's not cold feet. I think he
agreed to do it. I think he was, um. He's
the type of man that wants to impact young men
and wanted to go the route of an HBCU and
help out. And I think when he got there, you know,
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there was probably an agreement in principle to what his
contract was going to be. There was a lot of
people who didn't tell him how bad it was, how
bad the facilities were, how bad the condition of the
campus was, and all the things they were dealing with.
I mean, there, here's the reality. Is Ed Reid hall
of famer, Like he's he wants to come coach at
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your school, and you can't even have the decency to
clinton the dude's office. I mean, I know it sounds
like petty or small, but you should have a damn
band and a welcoming committee and like this. This is
this is be the biggest greatest moment potentially in Bethune
Cookman's history in football. I mean, look what Dion did
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for Jackson State during his time there, and the attention
it got and probably the additional revenue they were able
to generate and attention and all that. You don't think
Ed Reid couldn't do that in Bethune Cookman. He's the
greatest I'll put it this way. He's the greatest player
that I ever played against. He changed everything that you
did as a quarterback. When you went out there on
the field. There was times you couldn't tell what damn
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covers they were playing because Ed Reid and literally we
would go about looking at our own film and we
predict because because our o c when I was in
Cleveland Robins, he had been with Ed in Miami. Because
you have to understand how Ed thinks, how he works.
He's gonna watch what you did earlier in the season,
and if we showed that same route concept, it doesn't
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have to be with even the same personnel. If we
showed the same thing, he's gonna jump and he's gonna
pick it off. And he because he knows exactly what
you're gonna do, He's like, So we would literally set
up double moves where we put in a play that
we had showed once before and showed enough Ed would
see it, and we try to run a double move
off that try to get a big play. Like our
entire game plan was based around trying to trick head read.
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That's how good he was. Do you understand the impact
he would have of a Thune Cookman and and whoever
the administrators are, the president, all the people involved, they
didn't want to show him the sort of respect he
deserves when he gets there. It's crazy to me, it,
I mean it's disrespectful. It's taken for granted what I
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think Ed could bring to that program. And I'm sure
he was shocked surprised because he he he deserves that
sort of welcoming. But he's probablyful too to agree. Like
I think we all can understand when you are undertaking something,
you're trying to build it back up, that the difficulties
of the challenges. But then to not even have any
appreciation or not even have all the people that said
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they want you and want to bring you in and
they're they're on your team, they're on your side to
that help you build it up, and they can't even
clean your office when you get there. I mean, it's
just it's sad, man, it is really sad. And so
I think, you know, I don't know that it's not cold,
feat that's not what this is. This is a matter
of just two people, you know, kind of realizing like
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we're probably not gonna work, you know, going down the line.
Because Ed is very transparent and he wants excellence, that's
all he will will accept. And I don't think that
Bethune Cookman and and the you know, all the powers
that be there are are aligned with him. And how
he thinks they need to get there and how he
wants to go achieve that. And there's been protests at
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the school. You've got players who have come out who
are upset about the way the whole thing is gone,
and like, that's that's pretty mind boggling that you would
have this sort of a come up as far as
your program goes. That Ed Reid, who, by the way,
everybody loves Bill Belichick loves him like every like anybody
that talks about him, and he's actually like he's been
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an assistant, he's been like he's almost been borderline and
intern on certain staffs at the NFL level and in college,
and then he has an opportunity to go there to
improve the program. And they got a bunch of craft
line around in his office. Like it's pretty that's that's
pretty wild that that they would let it get the
point I would ask the question and and and just
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just based off, you know, like adding on to what
you said if you don't care about me, like if
I showed up with with your daughter to your home
and your home was filthy and and and just trash everywhere,
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You're not only telling me you don't care about you
know what I got going on. You don't care about
what you have going on. It's more of an indictment
on on the leadership. And I don't know if it's
the a D. I say this, even if it goes this,
this goes all the way up the flagpole. Because if
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you're talking about the leadership of the entire institution, if
you have a football field where and listen, it's not
it's not It's not new for a coach to take
his players to the facilities and pick up trash. Joe
may guys do that one time after a game. They
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went through the stadium, the stadium and and they picked
up trash after the game. You know, I mean trash
gets on gets on the ground after their games. I mean,
this is what it is, right, That's not that's not
something that's unique. What's what's unique to this situation is
that trash was going to get picked up at Beaver Stadium.
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They were going to clean that stadium. I think the point,
I think the point at Reid is making is this
is your home, and if this is how you treat
your home that, how do you expect or anticipate that
I'm going to come in put my name, my brand,
my reputation. You just named some of his accolades. Uh
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Jonas right, Like, I'm gonna put my name, my reputation
on the line, and you know what they'll say. They'll say, oh,
only Dion Sanders was able to come in and crack
the code the way that he did. Well, you know
what they did, roll out the band when Dion came in.
They had they had the state police there, the sheriffs there,
that the school, the president like you name it, the school,
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the community leaders, this, etcetera, etcetera. They rolled out whatever,
however the extent and the magnitude of what they could go,
they rolled it out at Jackson State to Dion Sanders.
And Dion Sanders still dealt with a lot of issues
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of a lack of resources. But there's one thing to
deal with a lack of resources. It's another thing to
deal with a lack of care. And I think that
that's the biggest issue here. And I think what upset
him and what you saw in that video and all
that anger that came out of them is that I
know I know ad real well, I know him real well.
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That's a disappointment that he had because he had probably
started to build relationship with the players. He knew that
this was going to cost him the opportunity to be
able to coach those kids. And he's one of those
types of dudes. It will upset him to let those
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kids down. Nothing else mattered. So that's what you gotta understanding.
The anger that that people saw and heard in the
video that that he released. He's been his his foundation.
He's been helping kids since forever, you know, uh in
in New Orleans and Louisiana. He helps He helps kids,
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That's what he does. Like, that's his thing for a really, really,
really long time. And I think that that anger that
he had was that, like, you bring me into a
situation where you're telling me immediately before I even coach
one game, before I coach one practice, before I before
I do pretty much anything, this is how much you
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care about the success of this program. And that's a problem.
It's like when they tell you the honeymoon and the
honeymoon phases over, Well, if the honeymoon phase sucks, isn't
that kind of the the indicator things aren't heading in
the right direction. He did, he did, He did apologize
on social media for the rant and you know, said
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it was unacceptable as a coach, as a father, as
a leader. But then this video also came out over
the weekend where he was talking with his team explaining
the situation that they weren't going to ratify his contract.
And here was Ed Reid talking to the Bethune Cookman
football team. Yeah, curse and you already heard cursed words
before they got parents in here the lead. And like
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I told you, I want all these recruits, but they
have some corrupt people in this world, some people that
don't care about kids like I do. So I want
to talk to here too from me. So that was
Ed Reid fired up, and he went. He went a
whole lot further. And by the way, you know, Dion
even came in and shod you know, in that video,
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Dion came into He kind of could sold to a degree,
but well, I thought awesome, Dion supported Ed and and
because he knows the difficulties of it, right, like he
knows from his experience at Jackson State. And Ed alluded
to that too in the video that one viral where
he was kind of going off on the administration of
a Thune Cookman for the difficulties and how Dion basically,
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you know, opened up a conversation about the tough conversations
that need to be had about HBCUs and all of that,
and Ed just continued to shine a light on it.
And I think the hard thing is is, you know,
now you've got a group of young men who don't
have a head coach anymore. They don't have that that leader,
that figure. A bunch of kids who have been recruited
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to especially given the timing of all this, that throws
a wrench in their life in their football careers. And
I hate that for them. I hate this for Ed
Reid because I was excited. I really was excited not
only to see what he could do there, but to
see where this was going to translate to down the
road as a head coach, because I just I think
that much of him as a player and as a
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person as far as every encounter that I've ever had
with them or just going up against the playing against them. Yeah,
it's crazy, man. They talked so crazy about Dion when
he left Jackson State. Think about that. People have criticized him,
They have called him everything but his name. Some people
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said he set HBC used back about what he did
well yeah, I mean LaVar, I mean literally, he left
for you know, a team that won one game last year.
How dare he? How dare he take you know, one
of these primo jobs and leave everybody else behind? God,
God forbid. A guy wants to improve a situation and
takes over a legitimate rebuild at the next level, and
everybody wants to criticize him, for God forbid. I just
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think it's kind of it's crazy the judgment of some
of these situations, Like Dion Sanders is supposed to coach
at Jackson State until until he retires, Like that's wishful thinking. People.
People do this at at major levels all the time.
Somebody will leave Rutgers and go to Michigan. Somebody will
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leave Michigan and go to Notre Dame. Somebody will leave
this place and go to USC. It happens all the time,
and and and for what it's worth, be clear, Dion
was trying to get the Florida State job. So all
the people that were talking crazy about him, you should
understood Dion was trying to get a major coaching coach,
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Power five coaching job out the gate. He had to go,
He had to go a different direction. Because people didn't
they were skeptical about if he could do or not
or not didn't Deon have to come out of his
own pocket to pay for certain things that there was
a whole lot of things Michael straight hand donated. Um
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what what airline donated? Uh, there were a lot of
different different resources that Prime but to the table. And
these are things that people don't even know right not
don't even know Dr dre They gave him head if
I was like he was spoiling them kids, But what
he was doing was he was showing them what the
standard is, you know. And and I thought that Prime
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was exceptional and how he handled a situation where if
he had really shined to light on it from the
jump the way that that at Reid did. Now, I
don't know if Jackson State was as bad a condition
as as what what be thim Cookman is, but I
will say this, I know it was bad. I know
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Dion was frustrated and dealing with a lot of different
issues that never even touched the surface of media to
even be discussed, you know, and it would have been
embarrassing just like right now, but film Cookman should be
embarrassed more than anything else. They should be embarrassed because
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to me, if you if you are in a trash
rat infested place and this is what you have those
kids using as their sports facility, and this is what
you think it's supposed to be. And like you said,
you you can't even clean that man's office. I don't
care if it's a hall of fame or not. You're
bringing in a leader of these young men. You can't
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clean that man's office for him to come in and
bring his own stuff. You use a different example. I
would just say it like this, if I had you
were Jonas over as a guest in my house and
I didn't set up like the guest bedroom, Like imagine
if like the beds are done, the sheets are dirty
from the last time someone else had been there, like
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picture that concept. There's like tissues and stuff on the floor.
Lord knows what's in those I was thinking more congestion,
because I've been a little congested this week. But maybe
something else. But in all seriousness, like think about the
pants on the floor, like like, come on, man, but
in all seriously, you'd walk into you'd walk into one
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of our house. You'd be like, man, you you must
not want me to stay here, like you didn't prepare
a spot for me to come. And and all these
people talking crazy, they would think the same exact thing
if they were in the same situation. You don't want
me here. You must not want me here. You said
it exactly exactly the way anyone would sensibility would be
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thinking in that moment, you must not want me here.
That's that? Like? Is that what it is? Like? Man?
You want read to go? Huh? Like you can't even
clean the man's office, like like wow, Like this is
up to you. This is your job. Like I get
painting lines on the field, I get being the equipment manager.
I've had to do all those things as a head coach.
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But I'll tell you, even at a high school level,
when I got hired as a head coach, my office
was clean. They even got me a new chair and
a new computer monitor. By the way, by the way
that they the computer with the last and and that's
not even the that's not even a football thing. That's
a school thing. There's no separate janitor for just the
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football team and then the rest of the school, Like
there's there. So you're telling me there's no janitor anywhere
on campus, Like no custodian anywhere on campus. And groundskeeper.
You don't have a groundkeeper just to pick up trash.
Like like I said, I could get I could understand
lines on the field, you know, getting the equipment like
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you got old beat up equipment, like I could like.
That's things that you say, Okay, that's frustrating, but you know,
we can figure it out. Old uniforms, we can figure
those things out. Okay, they don't have apparel, they don't
have spikes, data. We can figure those things out. But
there are some things that have fundamental values to it.
And if you're sitting there and you're saying this is
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a higher higher education institution, then there should be a
higher standard in terms of how you handle little things.
You get up in the morning, you make your bid,
You make sure that your bid is and your your
room is clean. They say the most successful people in
life cleaning their rooms. You know that. I just I
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think that the example that that's set and it being
exposed away that it exposed. But Bill Cookman should be
embarrassed and everybody else that may fall under that that
line that late should take a good heart look at
it as well and make sure they handle things differently
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have a little bit of bad news for Sean Payton,
who has been on the lookout wanting every job that
was open in the NFL, telling everybody he was available,
telling everybody that he was open to coming back to
coach in the NFL. We've got some bad news for
Sean Payton because of one of those spots was to
(33:41):
be offensive coordinator of the New England Patriots. It's over
because according to Adam Schefter and Chris Lowe of ESPN,
bill O'Brien is back, Bob as they called him in Houston.
He is back with the New England Patriots. He will
be the O C and quarterback CO for the Pats
and he will reunite with one Mac Jones and Bill
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Belichick there in New England. So how about that start
off your hour three of the program. Yeah, a little
Bill O'Brien. Um, So all that teasing for Bill O'Brien, Well, look, man,
it's important stuff. I mean, it's you know, there's an
art to this. It was like Collinsworth for a second.
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Collinsworth almost came, there's an art to this. Look, I'm sorry.
You know, I like to do this stuff and really
play it up. This is called radio, man, like some
people have lost the ability to do. Personally, I would
like to hear Harry Carey say the breaking news to
Bill O'Brien going back to its New England personally, Hi,
wonderful for doing the Patriots have Founder Bath. It's not
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Sean Playot, and the Patriots have hired Bill O'Brien. The
acklanym for Bill o brian and his Bob but spell backwards.
So if you're Mac Jones, are you happy about this?
I mean Bill O'Brien over, do you feel like this
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is an upgrade over what was in place last year?
Without a doubt, Without a doubt, I mean, this is
an upgrade for Mac Jones. It's great for him. That's
one side of the conversation. I think. The other side
is this is the sixth different offensive cord inner for
Alabama now in the past eight years. Think about that
for a second. I think about the attrition that Nick
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Saban has to go through losing coaches on his staff
every single year. And it's odd because I look at
it in two ways. As a recruit, you gotta be
thinking like, I'm gonna be like, I guess I'm just
coming for Nick Saban because whoever the O C is
is probably something different by year two, year three that
I'm there. That'd be tough to deal with. A different
(36:00):
guy calling plays, a different personality, a different guy, and
what he's trying to accomplish him do or how he's
looking at my technique and my fundamentals that'd be difficult
to deal with. So and one way, I think this
is a great thing for a legend and Bill Belichick
and the Patriots and what this means for Matt Jones,
a former Alabama quarterback. But on the flip side, I
think if you look for Nick Saban, it only makes
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his job that much more difficult at a time where
they're no longer the top of the SEC. It's Georgia
and Kirby Smart after winning back to back national championships.
So it's kind of my two cents on it. I
think they've still maintained being very competitive and putting putting
a lot of players into the league, and I think
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that that's something that probably works to his his advantage
and to his favor. He also has like ten thousand
coaches on staff, Like I mean, he has regular code
assistant to that coach and assistant to that assistant coach,
UH quality control coach to that those coaches, a quality
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control coach to that coach that's a quality control coach,
like I mean, he has created a system that works
for him at Alabama, And I think that that's what's
been able to keep him maintaining even though he continues
to have coaches elevate. I think it's been accepted that, Look,
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Mike Locksley came, he left, went took overhead coaching job.
Kiff and came, he left, he took overhead coaching job.
Bill O'Brien. He's left, He's going to take over a job. Yeah,
it's so, I mean, it's so many of them, right,
and and so I think that it actually if there's one,
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if there's one program that actually you could say is
immune to the idea of not having the coach that
would be able to fulfill the needs of the incoming recruits,
I would say it's Alabama. I would say that's one
of the only places where I would say you could
get away with something like this happening and it not
being too debilitating to the program. Promise. They again, they're
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struggling now, you know, just to stay on top of
the sec So it may not seem because we still
look at them as one of the top teams in
college football, there's still the element of, well, they haven't
won a national championship now in a couple of years,
and it seems like they're not the team to beat anymore.
So I would just argue that I think that the
attrition that that's been, you know, with the constant turnover
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has started to catch up to them. And if I'm
not mistaken, their d C left to god, I think
old miss as well. You're talking about replacing both coordinators. Now, yeah,
I mean I would say I add this real quick, Jones.
I'll say this to to that that point. It has
been Kirby Smart, and it has been Georgia, but they've
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still Alabama has still been fiercely competitive and and so
I would give it a little bit more time. I mean,
you know, you got one of the best quarterbacks in
in the game coming out this year. They got you know,
Jaffrey Brooks and and company. They got they have they
still continue to have guys that are making an impact.
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I just I will say that is a tough thing
to overcome when you lose multiple coordinators. But I just
I don't I don't count Alabama out until until they're out.
I think Nick Saban has kind of earned that right.
I mean, he was right there at it. I mean,
how many losses did you have this year too? Was
it too. That's not I'm not gonna say that. That's
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that's like you're out of the running to to get
back to the top of the sec I think we
just got to wait and see if he's able to
do it again. Now, if it's like two or three
more seasons where he can't get it done, then you
probably got to start having a conversation, like you know,
but maybe that's why Nick Saban was freaking out this
offseason about how, you know, the n i L has
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changed things and you know what what that represents. I
don't know, but I'm not going to count them out yet,
So I'll let me put it this way. They won
in a span of four years three national championships from
oh nine to two thousand and twelve, and then as
we got into the College Vall playoffs, obviously it's it
gets harder and that to that extent, right, Um, But
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even like when you go through where they lost the
buck Eyes who ended up winning it, they won then
two of the next three and they went to three straight.
You now look at the fact, actually, excuse me, they
went to four straight. You now look at since uh,
not quite the same. I mean, they missed the playoffs altogether.
They now haven't won the UH, haven't been able to
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get past Georgia in the past couple of years, and
the only national championship they can claim in that span
out is off that COVID year, which impacted teams a
lot differently. I mean, Jonah stores an asterisk next to
the Lakers that year. I'm just saying people kind of
look at that season a little differently than you know,
maybe maybe they do other seasons, so I would just
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argue the difference. I think it's it is starting to
catch up with them, and I think it's hard for
any head coach. I think it's one of the reasons
why you look at the Patriots taking a step back
this past year and Bill Belichick hiring guys he knows
and Joe Judge and Matt Patricia to come back. Ultimately,
it was a mistake, which is why they're now bringing
in Bill O'Brien, a guy they're familiar with who's part
of that family and coaching tree. But um, I just
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I think that eats at you after a while, and
it's what it's. It's one of the reasons why I
think Saban is looking at trying to bring back a
guy like Jeremy pruittt and something like that to coach
the defense. Because you lose so many of those guys,
you have to retrain them, you have to re coach them.
It's incredibly difficult, and it's a lot of times spent
on that side of things when you're still trying to
recruit and you're still trying to develop young men compete.
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So I would just argue the opposite, I think of
anything over the past you know, four years, we've seen
a little bit of a decline, and in part because
of all the attrition, they're still getting top players. You know,
they got arguably the two best players in the draft,
and Will Anderson and Bryce Young, but it's they're not
getting the consistent coaching. And I think those minor differences
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make the difference when you're on the road and you
lose the Tennessee and you know, you end up some
other tight and close games. Well, as LaVar laid out,
if you want to revitalize your career, go be a
correcinator in Alabama. So let me just throw this out
at to you, all right, because there's somebody who probably
needs to revitalize their career. So I'm just gonna no, no,
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no, no no, no, from from Thailand to Tuscaloosa. Come on, Cliff,
you can't ride an elephant and hang out with a
rocket ship forever. Go to Alabama, go to the SEC
all right, bring bring your guest with you, all right,
Come all the way out to Alabama. Little Cliff Kingsbury
and Nick Saban in the same same coaching room there. Huh.
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How about that for Alabama if you want to get
back on track in both ways, Cliff Kingsbury and Nick
Saban and the Alabama program who's now playing second fiddle
to Georgia, who's got a couple of national championships in
a row. That's the move. You want to go get somebody,
Go get yourself a Cliff Kingsbury, guy who travels well
and takes the best. Yeah, I know, let's just take
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take take a Yeah, he's fine. He's gonna god thing
out there. Now. On the subject of the Sean Payton yeah,
I could things usually do. But on the subject of
the Sean Payton front, he is getting a second interview
with the Cardinals. But interesting. Tom Pelosero reported a little
while ago that so is Dan Quinn. So all of
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a sudden Sean Payton's got some competition for some of
these jobs because seemingly he wants every single job that's
ever existed out there. That according to uh, Sean Payton himself,
who has talked about it multiple times. So I'm not
sure what direction he goes in here. The Denver Broncos
have also are going to get a second interview with
Sean Payton. It just feels like this is a formality.
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It's gonna be the Broncos. I'm just not quite sure
what I agree. I agree unless Jerry Jones versus course
and makes a move in Dallas, I just can't happen.
That ain't happen. That I can't tell. I don't know
if Sean Payton's you know, slow playing this or just
going through the process because that's what he feels like
it's the right thing to do, or if he's you know,
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using this to gather information and compare and potentially, you know,
use against some of his opponents in the future. It's
hard to get a sense. I feel like, if if
he really felt like one of these jobs was it
and he's highly sought after is we all perceive him
to be, he would pull the trigger by now right.
I mean that way you can start getting working. And
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I know he's got his staff, he's got lined up,
But like the Denver one, makes it interesting because you know,
I don't know how you're convincing Vic Fangio to come
back there. And Fangio has been in discussions with what
the Dolphins and the Falcons. I've seen and I would
love to see Vic Fangio with with the Dolphins. Obviously Dolphins,
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you look at that roster, with their secondary and some
of the edge players they've got, right, they traded for
Bradley Chub and I think some people down to South
Florida a little disappointed with the immediate results. But there's
there's a lot to work with their you know, and
obviously he's got experience from uh, you know, being in
Denver and and you know, seeing some of how that
scheme was able to work and operate. But I think
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there's they're almost similar built in the sense of what
they're trying to do in Miami and what I think
they could do with that personnel. Some of that pies
on Passion down the South Beach. Huh company there turn
up the heat too much? All right, all right, don't
turn up the heat too much there in South Beach
by the pool or lived by the pool of the beach.
(45:52):
Come on, now, yeah, what's what's the spot down there?
What's the what's the Italian spot to go through? Uh?
Thousand of him? I'm there's a there's there's too many, Yeah,
just pick one. So not like it's because like, by
the way, I just did figure out why I lead
the Lab had an all Oscars themed edition of would
you Rather? Because the countdown to the nominations for the
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Oscars is coming up? Condown, it's actually count there. Really,
there really is a countdown right now, isn't there? Yes,
the local news stations here in l A. There is
a countdown unless it's going to result in Will Smith
slapping the hell out of somebody. Again, I couldn't care
less about the Oscars. I'm not interested, So they can
kiss our ass collected. Yeah, it's gotta be. Are we
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sure that wasn't all fake and made up? And I
don't think yeah, I don't think that was fake at
By the way, Will Smith, it's been a rough year
since then. He looked like his aged dirty years since then?
Have you seen Will Smith but a crack a joke,
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get cracked. That's the way things work, I guess. So
we'll keep you updated. By the way hour for the program,
lead to app will breakdown the Oscars nominations here, so
we're looking forward to that. On Two Pros and a
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Joe with Lamar Area, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
four Radio. So the big story injury wise heading into
the Conference championship games this weekend is the situation with
Patrick Mahomes, who suffered the high ankle sprain in Sunday
(00:24):
or excuse me Saturdays when over the Jacksonville Jaguars and
so Andy Reid, the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs,
he updated the media on the status of Patrick Mahomes yesterday.
As far as injuries go, really Patrick is the main one,
and as you guys know, he hurt his ankle, so
it's uh, that's uh, you know, it's been a report
(00:45):
of this high ankle sprain so pre accurate. He's uh
worked hard um in the treatment and is doing okay.
He told you guys, I mean he mentioned it to
you that he's gonna play, So I mean that's uh,
that's his mindset. Then we'll just take a day by
day and see how he does. So that's the plan.
It looks like Patrick Mahomes is gonna play this weekend
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against the Cincinnati Bengals. The Boogeyman of the Kansas City Chiefs.
But I don't know, man, I just look at the
situation and I go history. Joe Burrow Mahomes on one
leg doesn't feel too promising for Kansas City heading into
this weekend. You always see the Boogeyman. You know, the
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Boogeyman is not real. What Cincinnati has been to Casey
is like their kryptonite. Like Casey has kind of been
like Superman, and it's been Cincinnati every time goes in there,
and all of a sudden, Casey just doesn't look the
same for whatever reason. Why it's Joe Burrow the defense
stepping up, Like That's how I kind of described this matchup. More.
Are you saying that Kryptonite's more real than the Boogeyman? Yes?
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I am. And this instance he's saying, yes, I understood
what he was saying. Let let him finish his point
continue on. It was a valid question though, it really was. Um,
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this is the only team that Casey plays that makes
you like watch them and go oh, they feel the
pressure of it, like they feel like they can't beat
this team and they haven't been able to since Burrows
got there. It's it's whatever it is, it's just a kryptonite.
But from homes and the injury. You know, he went
through this high a spring. I want to say, what nineteen, um,
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So he's been through it before. You know. Andy Reid
said yesterday that that one was actually worse. They don't
feel like this one was to that extent before anyone
who's who's played. Like, when you go through an injury
at the time it happens in the game, it can
be bad, but you can make it through because of
all that adrenaline rushing through your body. Once you get
out after that game, the next couple of days, that's
(02:57):
when it gets sore. That's when it's difficult because you're
gonna have to go through all that treamant stinks. I
don't imagine he's gonna practice much this week, um, and
so the preparation is gonna feel a little different for him.
But as long as he can get out there, sit
in that pocket and throw it around, that's all that matters.
Because he can play on one leg. Like, he's one
of the most unique talented players who can throw the
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football because of his arm, his upper body towrdso his
ability to make those throws, he can do it. You
wouldn't say that about almost every quarterback, but you'd say
that about Patrick Mahome was because of his unique talent,
skill set, and probably all the different pieces they have too.
I even think Andy Reid can game planning around it
to a certain degree as well. Yeah, I don't count
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him out. I'm I'm curious. Like they said, he didn't
have to use a walking boot when he left the stadium,
which to me is probably was the best best piece
of information to get once once you start coming down
off of off of that stional high after the game
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is over, they generally if if it's if it's a
really really severe high ankle spring, he's going to need
a boot. In fact, if it was a severe ankle spring,
he probably would not have been able to return to
that game. And I mean he he was. He was
definitely hobbled really bad, but he still finished and he
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was able, Like as as the game went on, he
got a little bit more adjusted to, you know, being
able to move on on that that foot. But I
still go back to the original point that you guys made,
is that Cincinnati plays Kansas City so well, but they're
playing them, they do get him at home, and I
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think that that is Wait wait, wait is this a
neutral Sade game. No, that's that's what they get they
it would have been right right right, Okay, I get confused.
Sometimes they do get him out. But the uh on
the weekend, which by the way, which by the way,
I got called all kinds of bad things saying that
(05:08):
I like neutral sites until all you you know out
there that supported home game home field advantage, I mean,
good for you. Um uh. But yeah, you know, I
think that that will play a part. That he doesn't
have to travel, right, I mean, if you take into
consideration having to fly, you know, he's not gonna have
(05:29):
to get on the airplane. That could play a major
part at the circulation. Um. Yeah, it could make It
could take a uh, it could play a part in this.
So there's there are little things that are wins for
Kansas City going into this this week and going into
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this game. Um. And I think I think the fact
that they have been Kansas City's kryptonite. I think that
that kind of lais into the advantage of Kansas City
this week. I just had that feeling, um in terms
of what Andy Reid and and Eric b Enemy and
and and Spagnola, you know this is gonna be a
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Spags game. You know, his defense is gonna have to
step up. They're they're going to have to play some
inspired football and it'll be interesting to see if they
can slow down this Bengals d I mean this Bengal's
offense because I don't I have to watching them last week,
and and I'll say this, the one caveat that I
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have coming into this week is what will the weather be?
Because I don't I don't think that Kansas City will
be impacted by the weather the way that Buffalo was.
I just think that the Bengals were more suited to
handle that game than than what the Buffalo Bills were.
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I don't see that being the case with Kansas City.
I feel like the playing field will still be even
if if there is snow. But I do think that
this is one of those games where the defenses are
going to be critical. The Kansas City defense will be
tremendously critical to to the success or failure of Kansas
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City this week. As far as the odds go, the
gambling odds yesterday when we opened the show, you had
the Kansas City Chiefs and one and a half point
favorite in most places it's now gone on the reverse,
so it's now gone back over the even point, and
now Cincinnati is a one and a half point favorite
on their side. So took about twenty four hours for
(07:42):
people to say, you know what, that's a good point.
Kryptonite or the boogeyman. This could be a problem for
Kansas City with a one lady to revisit it. You
had to revisit it. He had to go back ten dollars.
I'm bringing it all. Then that's that's called book ending
the topic here right that that is the radio roadcasting.
One O one quick question you guys, um Zach Taylor,
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what do you think his record is as a head coach?
And you have to answer, you can't look it up, Jonas,
I'm come like I'm gonna cheat, please, I would have
I wouldn't have any idea. But if you were to
ask me as he over five hundred, I would say
it's very close. I would say not, so I'll cut
it off before Jonas can look it up. I wasn't
(08:26):
looking it up. He's under five hundred, even even if
you included the playoffs, which he's been incredible in the playoffs. Right,
he's five and one thus far um. But it's just
crazy to think about how Cincinnati, like you got to
give their ownership structure a lot of credit. There were
to win team in they were a four win team
(08:48):
the next year, and then they stayed the course. They
saw the light at the end of the tunnel Tenant seven,
twelve and four. Now they're here in back to back
a championship game games with another chance to go to
a super Bowl and potentially win one. Like the only
reason I bring that up is because you know, at
some point we'll talk about Sean Payne today, because he
(09:11):
keeps interviewing for jobs and make sure his name is
out there. But there are teams looking for head coaches,
and it's because they pull out the rug from underneath
them relatively soon, and they never let him get even
to year three where they see what they're capable of doing,
or allow them to have a plan put in place
and then find the players they need to be successful.
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And I think Zach Taylor is an example of what
a lot of owners need to look at and say,
maybe maybe we were lacked impatience. Maybe this next guy
we hire or we need to give some time to
actually go out there and win some games and provide
him with what he needs to go out there and
win some games. I mean, obviously a lot of it
has to do with Joe Burrow being there, but I
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mean he was six and twenty five and one his
first two years. Today he's NFL with some of these owners.
David Tepper, you probably yeah, And now you look at
him in if you include playoffs, he's thirty three seven
at one. And there were a lot of people, by
the way, that early on in Zach Taylor's time there,
(10:15):
they said, oh, so you thought Marvin Lewis was the problem.
Like there were people that were already taking their victory laps, going,
this is a terrible higher, this is a bad move.
This is one of these Sean McVeigh knockoffs. He's a young,
offensive minded head coach, and you you sent Marvin Lewis packing,
and now this is what you get. And they've completely
turned around the course of the franchise. By the way,
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Lavari asked about the weather, I did reach out a
couple of sources. Uh in the six four, one to nine,
that is the location of Arrowhead Stadium. Brady quinnoses legendary Kansas. Yeah,
come on, that's what I do here. I mean this
is usually people go with the area coach. Well, I mean, well,
I do this zip coach here because obvitually, like Lavarno's,
you got codes, you know, yeah, I got pros. Yeah,
(11:01):
in different area code nine to be exact. Eleven degrees
on Sunday night. Eleven degrees winds right now north north
by the way north to northeast. That's the direction of
the wind flow eleven miles as well too. Oh yeah,
there's there's gonna be a win there a little wait
(11:23):
impact the kicking game war in Passing. So we're gonna
get some frigid temperature that's gonna be bone chilling cold.
It's not that cold, but it's it's cold. Eleven degrees
it is. I don't need to say, just say stick city, yeah,
sticks city degrees. Yeah. Hey, I got off the plane
last night in in northern Virginia and uh, it's not
(11:48):
even that cold in Virginia and I'm freezing. I got
so soft, guys, like I used to be somebody man.
Now now yeah, I'm hard anymore at all. Jonas Jonas
told me that he said you should see last time
you guys been student. He said, you should see how
soft lavars. Well, now that's that's not true. I did
(12:10):
think you bring it in the heater. Problem, do you
bring it in the heater was a little bit of
an issue like that. That seemed like a clearly clearly
you clearly took issue with it the entire time. Oh
I'm burning up, Oh I'm sweating. It was hot. I'll
be well. First of all, I will be freezing in that.
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If you hadn't noticed, I had been wearing my super
super super winter eyes big coat coming up in there. Um,
but imagine I'm cold there, So imagine being somewhere else,
especially on the East coast. You've seen my pale complexion.
You know I burned easily. I got a sunburned two
days ago that I'm stealing a denial with. If you
shined a flashlight in my eyes, I'd have to go
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into surgery. So you bring it in the heater causes problems,
especially this yar you you were I mean que He
was complained. He was very passive, impressive. He wanted he
wanted me to turn it off. So he wanted to say,
for the love of God, please turn off the space eater.
(13:12):
After we after what I saw you and burt O
do on your way out of the studio yesterday. That
kind of might have been the funniest deal. It was like,
I can't even I didn't kind it was like dueling. Yeah,
it was dueling fireworks, you know, like everybody. Everybody wanted
to fly theirs off. And you guys just right at
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each other at the Okay Corral and then left, and
I couldn't breathe. I was laughing so hard. Couple of
adult men taking turns against each other all the way out.
I turned my cheek and then you turn your cheek.
(13:59):
We let him aimed at each other, you know, like
when you know, like in those cartoons when the Sorceress
they start shooting their powers and you gotta see which one,
which one is stronger than the other, and eventually somebody's
power takes over to other person's. I just got out
of the room. I wasn't staying there to see we
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could overpower anybody. I got fired and rolled out. You
just unbelievable. It is too person. He was catching the
off guard like he thought he was. But I was
ready for it, hey, Q, I was ready for You
guys are just dirty human It's just dirty human being
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and I Catch all the strings. Be sure to catch
live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington and Jonas Knocks week days
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. So what the
hell happened with Ed Read and Bethune Cookman. I'm really
confused because there's too much? How are you confused? He
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pretty much laid it out. So he's upset that, like
his office wasn't clean and some others. So he went
to social media and complained about the conditions. Watch the
whole video. Well, yeah, like, but I don't understand if
he signed the deal. He didn't sign the deal. Okay,
so the deal hadn't been signed yet, but he was
already moving everything in and being a part of the
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program and taking things over. Like that's correct. So who
got cold feet? It's not cold feet. I think he
agreed to do it. I think he was, um. He's
the type of man that wants to impact young men
and wanted to go the route of an HBCU and
help out. And I think when he got there, you know,
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there was probably an agreement in principle to what his
contract was going to be. There was a lot of
people who didn't tell him how bad it was, how
bad the facilities were, how bad the condition of the
campus was, and all the things they were dealing with.
I mean, there, here's the reality. Is Ed Reid hall
of famer, Like he's he wants to come coach at
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your school, and you can't even have the decency to
clinton the dude's office. I mean, I know it sounds
like petty or small, but you should have a damn
band and a welcoming committee and like this. This is
this is be the biggest greatest moment potentially in Bethune
Cookman's history in football. I mean, look what Dion did
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for Jackson State during his time there, and the attention
it got and probably the additional revenue they were able
to generate and attention and all that. You don't think
Ed Reid couldn't do that in Bethune Cookman. He's the
greatest I'll put it this way. He's the greatest player
that I ever played against. He changed everything that you
did as a quarterback. When you went out there on
the field. There was times you couldn't tell what damn
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covers they were playing because Ed Reid and literally we
would go about looking at our own film and we
predict because because our o c when I was in
Cleveland Robins, he had been with Ed in Miami. Because
you have to understand how Ed thinks, how he works.
He's gonna watch what you did earlier in the season,
and if we showed that same route concept, it doesn't
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have to be with even the same personnel. If we
showed the same thing, he's gonna jump and he's gonna
pick it off. And he because he knows exactly what
you're gonna do, He's like, So we would literally set
up double moves where we put in a play that
we had showed once before and showed enough Ed would
see it, and we try to run a double move
off that try to get a big play. Like our
entire game plan was based around trying to trick head read.
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That's how good he was. Do you understand the impact
he would have of a Thune Cookman and and whoever
the administrators are, the president, all the people involved, they
didn't want to show him the sort of respect he
deserves when he gets there. It's crazy to me, it,
I mean it's disrespectful. It's taken for granted what I
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think Ed could bring to that program. And I'm sure
he was shocked surprised because he he he deserves that
sort of welcoming. But he's probablyful too to agree. Like
I think we all can understand when you are undertaking something,
you're trying to build it back up, that the difficulties
of the challenges. But then to not even have any
appreciation or not even have all the people that said
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they want you and want to bring you in and
they're they're on your team, they're on your side to
that help you build it up, and they can't even
clean your office when you get there. I mean, it's
just it's sad, man, it is really sad. And so
I think, you know, I don't know that it's not cold,
feat that's not what this is. This is a matter
of just two people, you know, kind of realizing like
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we're probably not gonna work, you know, going down the line.
Because Ed is very transparent and he wants excellence, that's
all he will will accept. And I don't think that
Bethune Cookman and and the you know, all the powers
that be there are are aligned with him. And how
he thinks they need to get there and how he
wants to go achieve that. And there's been protests at
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the school. You've got players who have come out who
are upset about the way the whole thing is gone,
and like, that's that's pretty mind boggling that you would
have this sort of a come up as far as
your program goes. That Ed Reid, who, by the way,
everybody loves Bill Belichick loves him like every like anybody
that talks about him, and he's actually like he's been
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an assistant, he's been like he's almost been borderline and
intern on certain staffs at the NFL level and in college,
and then he has an opportunity to go there to
improve the program. And they got a bunch of craft
line around in his office. Like it's pretty that's that's
pretty wild that that they would let it get the
point I would ask the question and and and just
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just based off, you know, like adding on to what
you said if you don't care about me, like if
I showed up with with your daughter to your home
and your home was filthy and and and just trash everywhere,
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You're not only telling me you don't care about you
know what I got going on. You don't care about
what you have going on. It's more of an indictment
on on the leadership. And I don't know if it's
the a D. I say this, even if it goes this,
this goes all the way up the flagpole. Because if
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you're talking about the leadership of the entire institution, if
you have a football field where and listen, it's not
it's not It's not new for a coach to take
his players to the facilities and pick up trash. Joe
may guys do that one time after a game. They
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went through the stadium, the stadium and and they picked
up trash after the game. You know, I mean trash
gets on gets on the ground after their games. I mean,
this is what it is, right, That's not that's not
something that's unique. What's what's unique to this situation is
that trash was going to get picked up at Beaver Stadium.
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They were going to clean that stadium. I think the point,
I think the point at Reid is making is this
is your home, and if this is how you treat
your home that, how do you expect or anticipate that
I'm going to come in put my name, my brand,
my reputation. You just named some of his accolades. Uh
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Jonas right, Like, I'm gonna put my name, my reputation
on the line, and you know what they'll say. They'll say, oh,
only Dion Sanders was able to come in and crack
the code the way that he did. Well, you know
what they did, roll out the band when Dion came in.
They had they had the state police there, the sheriffs there,
that the school, the president like you name it, the school,
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the community leaders, this, etcetera, etcetera. They rolled out whatever,
however the extent and the magnitude of what they could go,
they rolled it out at Jackson State to Dion Sanders.
And Dion Sanders still dealt with a lot of issues
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of a lack of resources. But there's one thing to
deal with a lack of resources. It's another thing to
deal with a lack of care. And I think that
that's the biggest issue here. And I think what upset
him and what you saw in that video and all
that anger that came out of them is that I
know I know ad real well, I know him real well.
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That's a disappointment that he had because he had probably
started to build relationship with the players. He knew that
this was going to cost him the opportunity to be
able to coach those kids. And he's one of those
types of dudes. It will upset him to let those
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kids down. Nothing else mattered. So that's what you gotta understanding.
The anger that that people saw and heard in the
video that that he released. He's been his his foundation.
He's been helping kids since forever, you know, uh in
in New Orleans and Louisiana. He helps He helps kids,
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That's what he does. Like, that's his thing for a really, really,
really long time. And I think that that anger that
he had was that, like, you bring me into a
situation where you're telling me immediately before I even coach
one game, before I coach one practice, before I before
I do pretty much anything, this is how much you
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care about the success of this program. And that's a problem.
It's like when they tell you the honeymoon and the
honeymoon phases over, Well, if the honeymoon phase sucks, isn't
that kind of the the indicator things aren't heading in
the right direction. He did, he did, He did apologize
on social media for the rant and you know, said
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it was unacceptable as a coach, as a father, as
a leader. But then this video also came out over
the weekend where he was talking with his team explaining
the situation that they weren't going to ratify his contract.
And here was Ed Reid talking to the Bethune Cookman
football team. Yeah, curse and you already heard cursed words
before they got parents in here the lead. And like
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I told you, I want all these recruits, but they
have some corrupt people in this world, some people that
don't care about kids like I do. So I want
to talk to here too from me. So that was
Ed Reid fired up, and he went. He went a
whole lot further. And by the way, you know, Dion
even came in and shod you know, in that video,
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Dion came into He kind of could sold to a degree,
but well, I thought awesome, Dion supported Ed and and
because he knows the difficulties of it, right, like he
knows from his experience at Jackson State. And Ed alluded
to that too in the video that one viral where
he was kind of going off on the administration of
a Thune Cookman for the difficulties and how Dion basically,
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you know, opened up a conversation about the tough conversations
that need to be had about HBCUs and all of that,
and Ed just continued to shine a light on it.
And I think the hard thing is is, you know,
now you've got a group of young men who don't
have a head coach anymore. They don't have that that leader,
that figure. A bunch of kids who have been recruited
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to especially given the timing of all this, that throws
a wrench in their life in their football careers. And
I hate that for them. I hate this for Ed
Reid because I was excited. I really was excited not
only to see what he could do there, but to
see where this was going to translate to down the
road as a head coach, because I just I think
that much of him as a player and as a
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person as far as every encounter that I've ever had
with them or just going up against the playing against them. Yeah,
it's crazy, man. They talked so crazy about Dion when
he left Jackson State. Think about that. People have criticized him,
They have called him everything but his name. Some people
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said he set HBC used back about what he did
well yeah, I mean LaVar, I mean literally, he left
for you know, a team that won one game last year.
How dare he? How dare he take you know, one
of these primo jobs and leave everybody else behind? God,
God forbid. A guy wants to improve a situation and
takes over a legitimate rebuild at the next level, and
everybody wants to criticize him, for God forbid. I just
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think it's kind of it's crazy the judgment of some
of these situations, Like Dion Sanders is supposed to coach
at Jackson State until until he retires, Like that's wishful thinking. People.
People do this at at major levels all the time.
Somebody will leave Rutgers and go to Michigan. Somebody will
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leave Michigan and go to Notre Dame. Somebody will leave
this place and go to USC. It happens all the time,
and and and for what it's worth, be clear, Dion
was trying to get the Florida State job. So all
the people that were talking crazy about him, you should
understood Dion was trying to get a major coaching coach,
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Power five coaching job out the gate. He had to go,
He had to go a different direction. Because people didn't
they were skeptical about if he could do or not
or not didn't Deon have to come out of his
own pocket to pay for certain things that there was
a whole lot of things Michael straight hand donated. Um
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what what airline donated? Uh, there were a lot of
different different resources that Prime but to the table. And
these are things that people don't even know right not
don't even know Dr dre They gave him head if
I was like he was spoiling them kids, But what
he was doing was he was showing them what the
standard is, you know. And and I thought that Prime
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was exceptional and how he handled a situation where if
he had really shined to light on it from the
jump the way that that at Reid did. Now, I
don't know if Jackson State was as bad a condition
as as what what be thim Cookman is, but I
will say this, I know it was bad. I know
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Dion was frustrated and dealing with a lot of different
issues that never even touched the surface of media to
even be discussed, you know, and it would have been
embarrassing just like right now, but film Cookman should be
embarrassed more than anything else. They should be embarrassed because
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to me, if you if you are in a trash
rat infested place and this is what you have those
kids using as their sports facility, and this is what
you think it's supposed to be. And like you said,
you you can't even clean that man's office. I don't
care if it's a hall of fame or not. You're
bringing in a leader of these young men. You can't
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clean that man's office for him to come in and
bring his own stuff. You use a different example. I
would just say it like this, if I had you
were Jonas over as a guest in my house and
I didn't set up like the guest bedroom, Like imagine
if like the beds are done, the sheets are dirty
from the last time someone else had been there, like
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picture that concept. There's like tissues and stuff on the floor.
Lord knows what's in those I was thinking more congestion,
because I've been a little congested this week. But maybe
something else. But in all seriousness, like think about the
pants on the floor, like like, come on, man, but
in all seriously, you'd walk into you'd walk into one
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of our house. You'd be like, man, you you must
not want me to stay here, like you didn't prepare
a spot for me to come. And and all these
people talking crazy, they would think the same exact thing
if they were in the same situation. You don't want
me here. You must not want me here. You said
it exactly exactly the way anyone would sensibility would be
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thinking in that moment, you must not want me here.
That's that? Like? Is that what it is? Like? Man?
You want read to go? Huh? Like you can't even
clean the man's office, like like wow, Like this is
up to you. This is your job. Like I get
painting lines on the field, I get being the equipment manager.
I've had to do all those things as a head coach.
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But I'll tell you, even at a high school level,
when I got hired as a head coach, my office
was clean. They even got me a new chair and
a new computer monitor. By the way, by the way
that they the computer with the last and and that's
not even the that's not even a football thing. That's
a school thing. There's no separate janitor for just the
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football team and then the rest of the school, Like
there's there. So you're telling me there's no janitor anywhere
on campus, Like no custodian anywhere on campus. And groundskeeper.
You don't have a groundkeeper just to pick up trash.
Like like I said, I could get I could understand
lines on the field, you know, getting the equipment like
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you got old beat up equipment, like I could like.
That's things that you say, Okay, that's frustrating, but you know,
we can figure it out. Old uniforms, we can figure
those things out. Okay, they don't have apparel, they don't
have spikes, data. We can figure those things out. But
there are some things that have fundamental values to it.
And if you're sitting there and you're saying this is
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a higher higher education institution, then there should be a
higher standard in terms of how you handle little things.
You get up in the morning, you make your bid,
You make sure that your bid is and your your
room is clean. They say the most successful people in
life cleaning their rooms. You know that. I just I
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think that the example that that's set and it being
exposed away that it exposed. But Bill Cookman should be
embarrassed and everybody else that may fall under that that
line that late should take a good heart look at
it as well and make sure they handle things differently
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your podcasts. Give me the hell Yeah. So we may
(33:21):
have a little bit of bad news for Sean Payton,
who has been on the lookout wanting every job that
was open in the NFL, telling everybody he was available,
telling everybody that he was open to coming back to
coach in the NFL. We've got some bad news for
Sean Payton because of one of those spots was to
(33:41):
be offensive coordinator of the New England Patriots. It's over
because according to Adam Schefter and Chris Lowe of ESPN,
bill O'Brien is back, Bob as they called him in Houston.
He is back with the New England Patriots. He will
be the O C and quarterback CO for the Pats
and he will reunite with one Mac Jones and Bill
(34:04):
Belichick there in New England. So how about that start
off your hour three of the program. Yeah, a little
Bill O'Brien. Um, So all that teasing for Bill O'Brien, Well, look, man,
it's important stuff. I mean, it's you know, there's an
art to this. It was like Collinsworth for a second.
(34:26):
Collinsworth almost came, there's an art to this. Look, I'm sorry.
You know, I like to do this stuff and really
play it up. This is called radio, man, like some
people have lost the ability to do. Personally, I would
like to hear Harry Carey say the breaking news to
Bill O'Brien going back to its New England personally, Hi,
wonderful for doing the Patriots have Founder Bath. It's not
(34:52):
Sean Playot, and the Patriots have hired Bill O'Brien. The
acklanym for Bill o brian and his Bob but spell backwards.
So if you're Mac Jones, are you happy about this?
I mean Bill O'Brien over, do you feel like this
(35:15):
is an upgrade over what was in place last year?
Without a doubt, Without a doubt, I mean, this is
an upgrade for Mac Jones. It's great for him. That's
one side of the conversation. I think. The other side
is this is the sixth different offensive cord inner for
Alabama now in the past eight years. Think about that
for a second. I think about the attrition that Nick
(35:38):
Saban has to go through losing coaches on his staff
every single year. And it's odd because I look at
it in two ways. As a recruit, you gotta be
thinking like, I'm gonna be like, I guess I'm just
coming for Nick Saban because whoever the O C is
is probably something different by year two, year three that
I'm there. That'd be tough to deal with. A different
(36:00):
guy calling plays, a different personality, a different guy, and
what he's trying to accomplish him do or how he's
looking at my technique and my fundamentals that'd be difficult
to deal with. So and one way, I think this
is a great thing for a legend and Bill Belichick
and the Patriots and what this means for Matt Jones,
a former Alabama quarterback. But on the flip side, I
think if you look for Nick Saban, it only makes
(36:23):
his job that much more difficult at a time where
they're no longer the top of the SEC. It's Georgia
and Kirby Smart after winning back to back national championships.
So it's kind of my two cents on it. I
think they've still maintained being very competitive and putting putting
a lot of players into the league, and I think
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that that's something that probably works to his his advantage
and to his favor. He also has like ten thousand
coaches on staff, Like I mean, he has regular code
assistant to that coach and assistant to that assistant coach,
UH quality control coach to that those coaches, a quality
(37:08):
control coach to that coach that's a quality control coach,
like I mean, he has created a system that works
for him at Alabama, And I think that that's what's
been able to keep him maintaining even though he continues
to have coaches elevate. I think it's been accepted that, Look,
(37:30):
Mike Locksley came, he left, went took overhead coaching job.
Kiff and came, he left, he took overhead coaching job.
Bill O'Brien. He's left, He's going to take over a job. Yeah,
it's so, I mean, it's so many of them, right,
and and so I think that it actually if there's one,
(37:53):
if there's one program that actually you could say is
immune to the idea of not having the coach that
would be able to fulfill the needs of the incoming recruits,
I would say it's Alabama. I would say that's one
of the only places where I would say you could
get away with something like this happening and it not
being too debilitating to the program. Promise. They again, they're
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struggling now, you know, just to stay on top of
the sec So it may not seem because we still
look at them as one of the top teams in
college football, there's still the element of, well, they haven't
won a national championship now in a couple of years,
and it seems like they're not the team to beat anymore.
So I would just argue that I think that the
attrition that that's been, you know, with the constant turnover
(38:39):
has started to catch up to them. And if I'm
not mistaken, their d C left to god, I think
old miss as well. You're talking about replacing both coordinators. Now, yeah,
I mean I would say I add this real quick, Jones.
I'll say this to to that that point. It has
been Kirby Smart, and it has been Georgia, but they've
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still Alabama has still been fiercely competitive and and so
I would give it a little bit more time. I mean,
you know, you got one of the best quarterbacks in
in the game coming out this year. They got you know,
Jaffrey Brooks and and company. They got they have they
still continue to have guys that are making an impact.
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I just I will say that is a tough thing
to overcome when you lose multiple coordinators. But I just
I don't I don't count Alabama out until until they're out.
I think Nick Saban has kind of earned that right.
I mean, he was right there at it. I mean,
how many losses did you have this year too? Was
it too. That's not I'm not gonna say that. That's
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that's like you're out of the running to to get
back to the top of the sec I think we
just got to wait and see if he's able to
do it again. Now, if it's like two or three
more seasons where he can't get it done, then you
probably got to start having a conversation, like you know,
but maybe that's why Nick Saban was freaking out this
offseason about how, you know, the n i L has
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changed things and you know what what that represents. I
don't know, but I'm not going to count them out yet,
So I'll let me put it this way. They won
in a span of four years three national championships from
oh nine to two thousand and twelve, and then as
we got into the College Vall playoffs, obviously it's it
gets harder and that to that extent, right, Um, But
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even like when you go through where they lost the
buck Eyes who ended up winning it, they won then
two of the next three and they went to three straight.
You now look at the fact, actually, excuse me, they
went to four straight. You now look at since uh,
not quite the same. I mean, they missed the playoffs altogether.
They now haven't won the UH, haven't been able to
(40:52):
get past Georgia in the past couple of years, and
the only national championship they can claim in that span
out is off that COVID year, which impacted teams a
lot differently. I mean, Jonah stores an asterisk next to
the Lakers that year. I'm just saying people kind of
look at that season a little differently than you know,
maybe maybe they do other seasons, so I would just
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argue the difference. I think it's it is starting to
catch up with them, and I think it's hard for
any head coach. I think it's one of the reasons
why you look at the Patriots taking a step back
this past year and Bill Belichick hiring guys he knows
and Joe Judge and Matt Patricia to come back. Ultimately,
it was a mistake, which is why they're now bringing
in Bill O'Brien, a guy they're familiar with who's part
of that family and coaching tree. But um, I just
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I think that eats at you after a while, and
it's what it's. It's one of the reasons why I
think Saban is looking at trying to bring back a
guy like Jeremy pruittt and something like that to coach
the defense. Because you lose so many of those guys,
you have to retrain them, you have to re coach them.
It's incredibly difficult, and it's a lot of times spent
on that side of things when you're still trying to
recruit and you're still trying to develop young men compete.
(41:58):
So I would just argue the opposite, I think of
anything over the past you know, four years, we've seen
a little bit of a decline, and in part because
of all the attrition, they're still getting top players. You know,
they got arguably the two best players in the draft,
and Will Anderson and Bryce Young, but it's they're not
getting the consistent coaching. And I think those minor differences
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make the difference when you're on the road and you
lose the Tennessee and you know, you end up some
other tight and close games. Well, as LaVar laid out,
if you want to revitalize your career, go be a
correcinator in Alabama. So let me just throw this out
at to you, all right, because there's somebody who probably
needs to revitalize their career. So I'm just gonna no, no,
(42:39):
no, no no, no, from from Thailand to Tuscaloosa. Come on, Cliff,
you can't ride an elephant and hang out with a
rocket ship forever. Go to Alabama, go to the SEC
all right, bring bring your guest with you, all right,
Come all the way out to Alabama. Little Cliff Kingsbury
and Nick Saban in the same same coaching room there. Huh.
(43:01):
How about that for Alabama if you want to get
back on track in both ways, Cliff Kingsbury and Nick
Saban and the Alabama program who's now playing second fiddle
to Georgia, who's got a couple of national championships in
a row. That's the move. You want to go get somebody,
Go get yourself a Cliff Kingsbury, guy who travels well
and takes the best. Yeah, I know, let's just take
(43:22):
take take a Yeah, he's fine. He's gonna god thing
out there. Now. On the subject of the Sean Payton yeah,
I could things usually do. But on the subject of
the Sean Payton front, he is getting a second interview
with the Cardinals. But interesting. Tom Pelosero reported a little
while ago that so is Dan Quinn. So all of
(43:45):
a sudden Sean Payton's got some competition for some of
these jobs because seemingly he wants every single job that's
ever existed out there. That according to uh, Sean Payton himself,
who has talked about it multiple times. So I'm not
sure what direction he goes in here. The Denver Broncos
have also are going to get a second interview with
Sean Payton. It just feels like this is a formality.
(44:06):
It's gonna be the Broncos. I'm just not quite sure
what I agree. I agree unless Jerry Jones versus course
and makes a move in Dallas, I just can't happen.
That ain't happen. That I can't tell. I don't know
if Sean Payton's you know, slow playing this or just
going through the process because that's what he feels like
it's the right thing to do, or if he's you know,
(44:27):
using this to gather information and compare and potentially, you know,
use against some of his opponents in the future. It's
hard to get a sense. I feel like, if if
he really felt like one of these jobs was it
and he's highly sought after is we all perceive him
to be, he would pull the trigger by now right.
I mean that way you can start getting working. And
(44:48):
I know he's got his staff, he's got lined up,
But like the Denver one, makes it interesting because you know,
I don't know how you're convincing Vic Fangio to come
back there. And Fangio has been in discussions with what
the Dolphins and the Falcons. I've seen and I would
love to see Vic Fangio with with the Dolphins. Obviously Dolphins,
(45:09):
you look at that roster, with their secondary and some
of the edge players they've got, right, they traded for
Bradley Chub and I think some people down to South
Florida a little disappointed with the immediate results. But there's
there's a lot to work with their you know, and
obviously he's got experience from uh, you know, being in
Denver and and you know, seeing some of how that
scheme was able to work and operate. But I think
(45:30):
there's they're almost similar built in the sense of what
they're trying to do in Miami and what I think
they could do with that personnel. Some of that pies
on Passion down the South Beach. Huh company there turn
up the heat too much? All right, all right, don't
turn up the heat too much there in South Beach
by the pool or lived by the pool of the beach.
(45:52):
Come on, now, yeah, what's what's the spot down there?
What's the what's the Italian spot to go through? Uh?
Thousand of him? I'm there's a there's there's too many, Yeah,
just pick one. So not like it's because like, by
the way, I just did figure out why I lead
the Lab had an all Oscars themed edition of would
you Rather? Because the countdown to the nominations for the
(46:14):
Oscars is coming up? Condown, it's actually count there. Really,
there really is a countdown right now, isn't there? Yes,
the local news stations here in l A. There is
a countdown unless it's going to result in Will Smith
slapping the hell out of somebody. Again, I couldn't care
less about the Oscars. I'm not interested, So they can
kiss our ass collected. Yeah, it's gotta be. Are we
(46:37):
sure that wasn't all fake and made up? And I
don't think yeah, I don't think that was fake at
By the way, Will Smith, it's been a rough year
since then. He looked like his aged dirty years since then?
Have you seen Will Smith but a crack a joke,
(46:57):
get cracked. That's the way things work, I guess. So
we'll keep you updated. By the way hour for the program,
lead to app will breakdown the Oscars nominations here, so
we're looking forward to that. On Two Pros and a
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