January 27, 2023 • 45 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to the Jets hiring Nathaniel Hackett as their next OC, possibly in an effort to lure Aaron Rodgers. Dan Quinn withdrawing his name from head coaching consideration is because he’s waiting for a better opportunity, including Dallas in the future. Plus, a preview of the Conference Championships, from line movement to the best possible Super Bowl matchups.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. By the way, I don't know if
you guys will aware of this. What it is a
football Friday? Yeah, Friday, alright, come on Friday, Burn Burn
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take that, Take those, take those football Friday. It is
a It is a football Friday here on Fox Sports Radio.
Always a fun and joyous time, despite the middle fingers
that were thrown up two minutes into the show. But
we're often running here and uh, you know, we mu
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must start with, you know, just some real confidence, real
confidence and support being shown by a recent hire. Because
let me tell you something. If you thought Robert Sala
trying to sell you on Zack Wilson as his starting
quarterback with something, you ain't heard nothing yet. Here was
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Robert Sala talking about the higher of his brand new
offensive coordinator, Nathaniel Hackett. When it came back to a
certain checklist that I was trying to go through, just
checking boxes on what we're looking for with regards to
his next offensive coordinator. Just kept circling back to him.
He checks every box, really really excited about this being
able to get Nathaniel here. There's a lot of strengths
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with him. His commitment to complimentary football, the experience, the
innovative teacher he's got. He's got a laundry list of
stuff that we're all really really excited about. He's got
a proven history of being able to develop a heck
of a run game and every stop that he's ever
been in. Got a proven track record of tremendous relationships
with all the quarterbacks as he's ever working with, and
he's gotten great had success with all the quarterbacks that
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he's worked with. I mean, I'm sold. I'm sold. That
was the missing piece. That was the missing piece, and
now he's the quarterback whisper he's needed for Zach Wilson. Well, yeah,
I mean, you know, I mean Nathaniel Hackett. Also, according
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to Robert Sala, he said that, you know, the plan
is they're going to bring in a veteran quarterback, but
you know he's still standing behind Zach Wilson. That's that's
still his guy here. So it's interesting. I mean, I want,
I would love to have Robert Sala as my coach
because that guy would throw some support behind me even
in my downtime. So apparently, Brady Quinn, you're New York Jets,
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a one time member. The New York Jets have found
themselves an O C and we're off and running. So
the first thing I saw when I saw this news
being reported was the media stepping up stating they're very complementary.
UM view on the hiring of Nathaniel Hackett with the Jets.
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I mean, I'm not gonna name names. It got to
the point where I was like, Okay, here we are.
I've said this to you guys before throughout the course
of the season. Was anyone as complementary of the Jets
and their team and the way they would defend Zach
Wilson and the way they tried to defend this team
when they went into a tail spin. When I tried
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to tell people that's what I kind of foresaw happening.
They're a young team, talented but young, and they were
gonna try to rely on a lot of young players
to step up and make the playoffs, and the quarterback
situation was not good there. So we've seen this story before.
We've seen how I don't know if it's the relationship
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that Robert Sala has with the media. I don't know
if it's the front office and the relationship they have
with the media, or if it's New York Jets. And
and there's so many people who are around that organization
that are dying for them to be successful, and dying
for all the people who are there to maintain the job,
because you do feel like going into this year, if
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they don't figure this out, they could be one of
those teams you're looking at with the new head coach, right,
I mean That's how I see it at least. And
so I'm watching all of this, I'm going, what is
going on? It came off like a coordinated effort that
you like see on Twitter, you know, when you get
all those bots who are like, you know, you say, um,
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you know whatever, You're like, you know, I'm hungry for
a hamburger. Next thing, you know, you see all these
different ads for like a hamburger pop up in your email,
pop up like Twitter or something else. I'm going, why
are there so many people who are being so complimentary
about this higher And it wasn't because look, Nathaniel Hackett
is by all accounts a great guy, and everyone will
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say that about him. He's a great guy. He does
have good relationships with his players. He is unique in
the manner of which he coaches. But there wasn't one
media person, not one that pointed out the fact that
he has struggled as a play caller. There was one
that actually the only thing he didn't point out to
me was his one year that he actually really excelled
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as a play caller, and that was the year in
the seventeen I believe with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Like that
was the one thing he pulled. What about the two
seven to the Jaguars. I'm like, wasn't that Leonard four Nett?
And he didn't for at every one of his best
years and have his career running the football? Was that
that they don't Hackett? But you go, you go back
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to the years in Green Bay. He wasn't. He wasn't
calling plays. And so the one year he's got really
to hang his hat on is two thousand and seven
with the Jacksonville Jaguars and Blake Barrels, which I guess
you'd say that was his best season, but I I
just look at it, Well, I don't know about that,
but but what I'm doing is I'm just trying to
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pay a more objective picture to it, and I think
the objective side of it is And this is what
one of the media members had said to me. I said,
help me on a stand where all the compliments and
everything is coming from. And eventually we got to the
point where he said to me, if Robert Salos on
the hot seat, what who else was he gonna hire?
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What offensive coordinator is available, has a track record, has
experienced doing it, that you can hire and not feel
like you're experimenting if you've got one year to prove yourself.
I'm like, valid point. You know, I can't think of
many other names on top of my head of guys
who are a young budding star that but to have
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a track record and could leave their current OC position
to then come be offensive coordinator for the Jets. Like that,
you can't move for a lateral move in the NFL.
You have to move up if you want to leave.
So anyone you're you're bringing on is gonna be a
guy who's probably unproven. It might be a great offensive mind,
but you don't really know when you might go through
some growing pains there. So I can understand why rist
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sala hired Nathaniel Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett will have a good
relationship with that Wilson Um. You know, he's he's called
plays before, he's he's gonna try to, you know, do
exactly what Robert Salo want him to do. And then
the final pieces if they are putting together a package. Again,
Aaron Rodgers doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to have a
guy that he's familiar with, an offensive system he's familiar with,
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to then go try to lure him away and maybe,
you know, make a trade with the Green Bay Packers.
If they're thinking that in the back of their head,
why couldn't they just hire him and let that be it?
You know what I mean? Like, why can't you just
make a hire of a coordinator and let that be
of the cell job just reeks of an organization that's sensitive?
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Am I wrong? By the way, did you guys notice
the same thing? It's been all year though, But like
all the all the pushback you got because you you
were talking about the schedule, like all of that, and
and it was like if you made one comment about
the Jets, all of a sudden people got bombarded with
what it was. It was like you were speaking out
against the COVID vaccine or something like. People just couldn't
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handle it and they went just has anything to do
with well, no, not at all. One and done with
that one, by the way. But it's just the whole thing.
Was it just reeks of an organization that's sensitive. They
know that they've been the dormat of the NFL and
the butt of jokes for years and years and years,
and they can they can try and sell everybody on
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Nathaniel Hackett all they want. Fact of the matter is,
the problem wasn't the quarter quarterback or a coordinator. Rather,
the problem was the quarterback. The defense was fine, They've
got the Rookie of the Year, who's up for the
the award. They've got the defensive Rookie the Year potentially,
like the roster is growing. They're in a good place.
They did win games. Once Hall went out with the
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injury against Denver, you saw that the team went in
a different direction. To me, this just is like them
selling everybody on Nathaniel Hackett. But if you don't land
a quarterback, you're still back to the same point. That's
that's the quarterback. Yes, I don't think I don't think
a coordinator. Was the issue was ck Wilson. He everybody
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to every to a man, everybody says he works really hard,
he shows up, puts the time in. It's the fact
that it became a thing. Robert Salom made it a thing,
and then Zach Wilson started to melt down publicly, and
then he started to get the yips or whatever you
want to call it. They can say, well, you know
it's it's the coordinator and try and make whatever excuse
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they want. This has got to be a play for
Rogers asked to be wow, Well, I mean what he
came out and said he wanted to put up some
big time money to to get a big time quarterback
in there. I just I just felt like the way
Robert slo talked about the development and the maturity that
he was looking for out as Zach Wilson, him talking
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about Hackett, the way that he's talking about Hackett and
in the in the press conference sounds as though he's
bringing in a quarterbacks coach. He's bringing in someone who
can build a relationship and cracked the coat with Zach Wilson.
That's what if. That's what I took from it. Can
we touch it well mean and that and that that
might be part of it, right, and part of it's
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to be developing Zach Wilson only st that's what they
keep saying. Someone explained to me, Let's play out the
hypothetical of Aaron Rodgers as a New York Jet. He
currently has two years left on his deal, so if
any team trades for him, he's at least getting traded
for two years left on his deal. As far as
what the money looks like, that's up for negotiation. And
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obviously Aaron Rodgers has a no trade clause. He would
have to agree to whatever team he's being traded to.
But let's say, for example, he gets traded to the
New York Jets. Zack Wilson has played two years in
the league. He's got two years left on his deal
after this upcoming season because he was a first round pick,
they have to decide on his fifth year option. Assuming
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you trade for Aaron Rodgers, he has two years left
on his deal, how does this work out where you're
developing Zach Wilson. It's the same thing I said about
Jordan Love, who's a year ahead of Zach Wilson, Like,
you're not developing him. You're not saying what you have
in him, You're trying to figure out a way to win.
Yeah and so and so you've got Rogers for two years. Meanwhile,
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how could you ever pick up a fifth year option
on the quarterback you saw and the last time you
saw you had benched numerous times because he wasn't developed enough,
right and so and so, then like you're saying, oh,
he's not done here, It's like, what do you mean?
You got Rogers here for the next two years, And
by the time Rogers has done with that porst of
his contract will be a free agent. So I just
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I don't really see the whole logical path to developing
Zach Wilson with the Jets and having him there. As
I said before, and as much as I didn't see
things working out for the Jets this season, I also
hated how they handled things for Zach. I wish they
would have let him stay in there, fight through the
adversity and see if he can build from that, and
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and if he can't, so be it. But jerking him
in and out of the lineup that doesn't help. So
now you find yourself in no man's land, And I
just I feel like they'd be better off trading him
somewhere else, giving him a chance to go compete, go
play somewhere else with the two years left on his deal,
instead of sitting behind Aaron Rodgers. I just I don't
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think that's the best thing for him. And then he
becomes a free agent, then what do you do? Well,
I'd say this, it puts Nathaniel Hackett in a position
to get back to being a head coach if he
can be successful with whoever the quarterback is. That's it's
it's a it's a prime opportunity because of how big
the market is, and if they are able to win
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it does it does position him to be able to
put his name back in that hat eventually. So it
could be. I mean, there's a lot of incentive value
for Hackett to come in and be the guy that
salvages a top draft pick for for the franchise. I
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wonder what would be the most advantageous situation for him though,
I mean, clearly it would be if you were able
to get Aaron Rodgers in there. That would clearly be
what what would be most advantageous? But I just I'm
curious as too is Nathaniel Hacket there as the guy
to come in that they think can help Zach Wilson
get on track. Not to bring it back up, but
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I mean, I mean it is kind of odd though,
to think, like Woody Johnson, Johnson Johnson, the whole COVID vaccine.
I mean, I would be pretty funny. How is that?
I just I don't know, you know, I just that
would be pretty funny. That's connecting the dots here. That's like, well, listen,
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this could be a locker room also. You remember I
was thinking about this and because we brought it up
at the time because we thought it was a little
bit strange. So when they drafted Zack Wilson the Jets
and they were just going to roll with him as
their starting quarterback, Remember we were having the conversation, it's
a little odd they didn't have a veteran backup behind him,
like because Joe Flacco wasn't there yet. It was a
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little odd that they were just going to roll into
the season and it was just gonna be Zach Wilson
and then you had Mike White as the backup, especially
because you remember the tragedy with Greg Knapp, who was
the quarterbacks coach there who that offseason before Zach Wilson's
rookie year passed away in a bike accident. It felt
like there was a lot of stuff going on there
and they could have used that veteran presence for Zach Wilson.
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And what do they do, you know, weeks later into
the season, like week ten or something like that, they
traded for Joe Flacco. If you actually look at the
timeline of this, Brady Robert Sale hasn't handled this whole
thing great. Was Zach Wilson throughout? Like if you just
go from the start, because I remember we were having
the conversation going, don't you want somebody there just in
case or maybe a start the year? He all Zach
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Wilson had to show for it was a weird schedule
in a COVID year, Like wouldn't you want some veteran
there to at least start the season and then you
transition to Zack Wilson And that wasn't the plans. If
you go back from the impetus of Zach Wilson's time
with the Jets, this thing started off on an odd
foot with Robert it's the most important position, and I
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think again LaVar is probably one of the few defensive
minds that I know that would be an exception to this.
But in the NFL, I think there's a lot of
examples of defensive coaches who do not handle the quarterback position. Well.
Brian Flores was one, Robert Salo was one. How about this,
Bill Belichick was one last year. Like, if if we're
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really going to start kind of pulling out the different
defensive minds who didn't handle their quarterback situation, well I
would put Bill Belichick into that situation with hiring Matt
Patricia to then call plays when you're trying to make
a pivotal decision on whether or not Mac Jones can
play and be the guy, and you're bringing the guy
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just because you trust him. He's the first time I
was seeing. Now, granted, they've made up for that mistake
in hiring Bill O'Brien Bob as they call him in Boston. Yeah,
but the reality is there are callous, defensive minded head
coaches who do not understand how to help with that
match raction process grow the quarterback to get the most
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out of him, especially when you draft them as a rookie.
I mean, there's callous examples of it as defensive mind
head coaches. And this is another one, like based on
some of the things you've laid out, but I think
even just this year and how he handled the kind
of the need to say, we need to win now.
I need to put in Mike White, I need to
put in Joe Flacco, I need to put in these
other guys instead of saying, look, if you believe in
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your quarterback, then go let him fight for you. Go
let him play through it. You know, see how mentally
tough to you to see if he could fight through
all this stuff and go playing and get better. He's
not gonna get better sitting on the bench. Be sure
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app so Um.
Dan Quinn sniffs around the open coaching opportunities in the league,
does a couple interviews, and decides, Yeah, I'm gonna go
ahead and stay back in Dallas yet again. Dan Quinn
returns to the Dallas Cowboys to be their defensive coordinator
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for another season. Apparently didn't like what he saw. And
I don't know Indianapolis or Denver or you name it.
And dan Quinn is back, uh in in in the
Dallas Cowboys locker room, in the Dallas Cowboys coaches office.
He's gonna be coaching up that defense again. What you
gotta think is a is a big win for the
Cowboys this offseason after they let go of a bunch
of assistants. So there it is. Dan Quinn's back, Brady's cousin,
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dan Quinn back right. Yeah, probably surprised by this, Yes,
I I just assumed that he went through the interviews
last year he decided to come back. All he did
was grow his resume and and increase his stock this
year with the way that defense played. And yet he
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just decides he wants to go back. Maybe that's more
telling of whatever the hell he saw from the interviews
that he was on what's out there. I mean, you
gotta figure he saw the name tag on the door
when he came into Denver's facility. You know, there's the
rest of his office, you know, stuff like that. I mean,
you just got to believe that he's looking at this
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this opportunity the same way we've been I mean the
same way we're discussing Sean Payton, right and and to
that point, que Que talked about it earlier. He's a
defensive coach. I'm not gonna walk into a situation with
Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson and I don't have the
support or or the understanding of what what my relationship
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would be with the GM. I'm not coming into one
of those conference sational situations. Just not you. You already
have established yourself where you're at. So outside of anything borring,
anything crazy taking place, He's going to continue to build
that equity and and grow his opportunity to get another
job the type that he would want to leave and take.
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I mean, he's taking the interview, so he's already he's
he's allowed everyone to know he does want to be
a head coach. So it's not that he's staying in
Dallas because he you know, he just would rather be
in Dallas. He's staying in Dallas because of what you
just said, Jonas. There's something that he's seen and and
he felt with the interviews that maybe we're the most
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most attractive jobs to take, and he didn't want to
do it too big of a risk. I think you
have to be selective when it's your second time becoming
a head coach. I mean, we we tend to forget
this man took a team to his Super Bowl and
theyve and should have won, unfortunately, should have one. Unfortunately
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blew one of the biggest leads we've ever seen the
Super Bowl, so the biggest um and so we tend
to kind of cast that off because of what happened afterwards.
But I look at it and I think, as any
candidate who's been a head coach once, you know how
rare it is to get a head coaching opportunity the
second time, and so you better pick the right one,
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you know, you better pick one where you can have
a chance for success. The ownership, the general manager, the
head coach is in alignment, and you feel good about
everything going into it, because at one point in time,
this was a team that had the m v P
at quarterback in Atlanta, had won a NFC championship, goes
to a Super Bowl, and then once they were hit
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with adversity, things started to fall apart a bit in Atlanta.
And it's frustrating because that was I mean one they
were a really good team was fun to watch while
he was there, but it's got to be frustrated to
watch sometimes. You know when people when when adversity strikes,
people start looking for life. This people start getting out
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pick axes and they're even looking to save themselves or
they're looking to take the ship down, and and that
could be a hard thing to be a part of.
So he's wise, he's been there before. He knows, I
think what he's looking for or has much better idea
of what he's looking for this time around. And I
just think he's gotta be he knows, he's got to
be careful about it because he's also not that old.
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I mean, he can coach for a long time. And
I would say, look coaching in Dallas. One part of
me thought when I saw this that maybe and you
guys tell me if this is wrong. Jerry didn't pull
him besides, hey, now, hey, I want I want you
to listen to me. Now. Things don't work out with
Mr Michael McCarthy, He's like, I will, I'll just make
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you the head coach, so you stay here. We can
elevate you into that spot. All right, you're my guy.
Things don't work out, You're You're a guy here. I
mean they're kind of I kind of feel like there's
like a wink nod nod agreement there is there not.
Jerry was saying that out loud basically this offseason, which
McCarthy had to answer for and got frustrated with, and
then Jerry Jones trying to say, well, I don't know
why that's even a discussion here. Mike McCarthy's are head coach, dude,
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because you bring up these other names all the time.
You were the one talking about dan Quinn should be
a head coach. So if he's saying that out loud,
d percent, I believe he's had those conversations with dan Quinn. Yeah,
that's him live from Jalisco. Lose, lose dan Quinn. What
does the Dallas Cowboys have. I don't know. Michael Parsons
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da remember somehow? Thank you, thank you, Jerry uh. I
just they're going to Mexico. They lose dan Quinn right now?
Who doesn't mean I know, I know a lot of
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people are high on Kellen Moore, but there are I mean,
I don't Well, you seld the most face of report
they said he might not even be back, and well,
I mean that's, by the way, that's an odd one.
How could you have a guy's interviewing for head coaching
jobs lose his current job. Yeah, aren't they saying the
same thing at the enemy too, that he may not
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be back in Kansas City Because it was there was
some question he was going to even be back last year,
and then I think he's done interviews, if I'm not mistaken,
this year, he's done a couple, and now there's some
questions he's going to be back. I just think I
think this is also pretty damning of Russell Wilson, because
dan Quinn U should be running coaches should be clamoring
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to coach Russell Wilson and Broncos. Dan Quinn was part
of that staff that coached Russell Wilson in Seattle. He
was a defensive coordinator when they won that Super Bowl. Yeah.
The fact that he looks at it and goes no, no, yeah,
even all the all the money they've got a let
me see what y'all got here. Let me think. Let
me see office. We must be some really big, nice office.
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It must be the nicest one in there. Okay, do
you do you think do you think Russell Wilson has
a picture of Russell Wilson in Russell Wilson's office, like multiples, yeah,
like all over him and him, I mean him in
the family. You have to assume, like what do you
what do you like? Now? What kind of pictures are
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we talking about? Says? I mean maybe some maybe some
like you know, like during the pregnancy we got to
do You don't Seattle, You guess they do, Seattle. You
got a high draft pick is what you got? That?
That's what you got, Seattle. So like the fact that
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he didn't even want any part of it. You know what,
I'm gonna set this one out because the owners of
the Broncos could offer more than anybody else, correct as
far as the team's available, like they can they can
write a check for any amount to bring whatever code
they want. In to the fact that, you know, dan
Quinn looked at that and I I was like, I don't know,
you have to you have to keep in mind again
the coaches salaries are not subject at the salary cap,
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So it really comes down to how much money you
want allocates your coach, how much do you value the
job that he does? And that's essentially what you know,
anyone would have to decide he wants to hire Sean
Payton because he's already floated out there, like you know,
the asking price going into it, and that that's He's
another interesting one you got to talk about. As far
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as it's it's looking like a reality. He might not,
you know, coach, you might just go back into uh
in the broadcasting again. Can I issue this about the
Cowboys if they come back this next season and it's
one and done in the playoffs, or they get to
the same point divisional round and they lose again and
it looks bad and the optics are bad and the
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final play is bad, or even if they for whatever
reason don't make the playoffs, they deal with some injuries,
they take a step back. There's always turn over from
playoff teams to non playoff teams. Like we're looking at
tearing it down and going in a different direction. Correct,
Because I would assume Mike McCarthy's not back, The Dak
Prescott conversation is gonna get louder and louder. We don't
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even know if Zeke is going to be back this
upcoming season. You're gonna have to pay Michael Parsons sooner
rather than later. It just it feels like this is
it for Dallas as far as this era of Cowboys football.
And they may have already gotten as far as they
could possibly go when in Das rookie year they were
hosting that Divisional round game and they lost to the
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Packers and that great game. It just feels like it's
all cards in the middle of the table. You're going
all in this season, and if it doesn't get done
this year, there's gonna be massive overhaul and just changes
there with the Dallas Cowboys, not only on the coaching staff,
but on the roster as well too. I mean, you're
already kind of there, right might not come back, your
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DC is coming back. You moved on from five coaches already,
your old line whether you want to say they weren't fired,
their contracts expired, okay, at semantics to a degree, Um,
they already have to some degree. I think after next year,
it's on Mike McCarthy, but it's also on dak you know.
I think at that point then you're really gonna get
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the heat turned on as to if he's gonna be
there or not. Um, And if they're not going to
try to find someone to supplant him like, that's that's
who the pressure is on now, and the reality is
that's how it always is. It's always the head coach,
it's always the quarterback. But next year, if they can't
get further, if they can't do more, that's who all
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the you know, fingers are gonna point to it. It's
gonna be about Dak Prescott of what his ceiling is
as their quarterback. Be sure to catch live editions of
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By the way, I feel like a little bit of
an a hole for not bringing this up to you guys.
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It's a football Frido, Football Friday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, alright, alright,
alright your face right, come on dahn alright, brno perno
fo yeah yeah, two pros and a cup of joe here.
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It is a football Friday. We've got the conference championship
games that are taking place, uh this weekend. By the way,
last call, we're gonna make our picks against the spread
coming up later on this hour. So we're gonna give
one last statement on these games and let it ride
into the weekend. Let it rip. And by the way,
you see, Christian McCaffrey said there's a zero percent chance
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he misses this game. I know, Brady, you were concerned
about him missing this game with that calf issue, but
he sensors zero percent chance. Well it wasn't someone's notes yesterday.
They were bloviating about how this Philly just runs with
the more I see this, more I like Philly and
this someone point you know, it's funny you bring it up.
I actually feel the same way. I don't know who
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you were talking about, but I feel the same way. Also,
I think Philly's gonna roll and then then and they
might like I go back to what we said yesterday.
This was the seventeen Pro Bowlers or Pro Bowl arthurnates. Yeah,
that's for teacherous. I think, are we being serious? Is
that the most for one team? Um? I think it's
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gotta be because in Indianapolis had what last year seven
or eight? But I think I don't think they had
that many alternates, but they had seven or eight because
that was the big discussion that like Jonathan Taylor and
those guys were sitting at the Pro Bowl right what happened.
It's like, wow, Carson Wantz, you know, you guys melted
down in the clown. But but but the funny thing
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about it is, and Lee counted this sub yesterday, so
I'm surely knows how the top of his head, what
do we count like twelve? As far as for San Francisco,
there there Pro Bowlers and Pro Bow alternates, I think
thirteen six plus I think they had seven alternates. So
think about that. You've got like possibly thirty players who
either Pro Bowls starters are altered it on these two teams.
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What's the most number of Pro Bowlers starters in one year?
And yeah, like, what would you guess? What do you
think it is? Because this has got to be in
the contemplation when they won the Super Bowl. Maybe you
think a couple of years ago. No, no, the first
one Brooks and Simeon Rice and warrants. You know, I'm
gonna stop doing that. You don't disrespectful every time we
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say that Tampa Bay Bucks team, like we never say
that Brad Johnson team. We always just say all the
Derrek Brooks team. I'm gonna stop doing that. You mean
the Brad Johnson bocks that what you mean those guys?
I'm not gonna go for your bait. What do you mean?
I'm not a hooking real type of dude. What are
you talking your base? Say? I throw some respect on
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Brad Johnson's name teammates when you talking about the Ravens
that was my quarterback and the way they treated him that, Yeah,
it's Joe Flacco Ravens. They put Georgia and over top
of quarterbat. So I'm not trying to be the bearer
of bad news. Uh, the money is starting to move
on Philadelphia. I'm even seeing it at three in some places.
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The betting line the Eagles are up to a minus three.
But no rookie quarterback has ever won a conference championship game.
There's been five that have been there, and no rookie
quarterback has ever won a conference title game. So and
the and the money is moving on. Who on Philadelphia
it is? You mean you mean the percentage of bets,
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not actually the sharp money. No, the money About sev
of the bets that are placed are on Philly. So
you know how this works, right for for people out
there don't understand how this works is line movements based
off the amount of money coming in, not the amount
of bets placed. So think about it this way. If
you've got a line that currently, hypothetically speaking, sits at
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two and a half, and let's just say it happens
to be the Philadelphia Eagles laid two and a half
first to San Francisco, If seventy of those bets are
coming in on Philly roughly approximately, that means there on
the other side, well that then obviously are placing higher
bets or more money on the line even though it's
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only according to get it to stay at that number.
Does that make sense, Yes, that's yeah, so minus one
fift in some places for Philadelphia at the minus two
and a half, So it feels like we're on the
move here to three. That's sort it feels like to me,
all right, And wherever the money's coming from, the money
on the other side on San Francisco is the wrong
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place to be because Philadelphia is going to win this
game and history says so. And and the fact that
you're not being a little bit more supportive of your guy,
Nick Sirianni, I think it's a disgrace to your newfound
Italian heritage. I think it's no that looked they very
well could win this can there's no doubt about it.
I think if you look at who has been the
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hottest team who has been playing gray labits, but's San Francisco.
Philly has to but they kind of went through that
low period with with Minshew in there. And we'll see,
we'll see how thinks. I think those defense is dominant, man,
They're so dominant, and I think we might be overlooking,
like the Giants were a great story this year that
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was not as tough as an opponent as I think
some realized. It's almost how we looked at Dallas beating Tampa,
like here it comes to Dallas, they're gonna beat San Francisco,
and you're like, that's a pretty good point, are they?
But but but, but I will say this, Dallas was
nowhere near as dominant a team this season as Philly
has been. So that's where I would say that that
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that falls off the rails. But but let's be clear here,
the offense of San fran was not there. And that's
what's to me the biggest concern is they may need
more points this week. That defense may very well show
that they're going to travel, that defense is going to travel,
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but they still may need some more points than nineteen.
They may need more than that. That they may need
more than that. What do you What do you guys
think is the best matchup in the Super Bowl? That
would that would mean the best game. Honestly, I just
think they all work. I don't think there's a loss
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in this. I really don't. If San Fran or Philly
goes to the Super Bowl, that's not a loss. If
if Kansas City or Cincinnati goes to the super Bowl.
It's not a loss. There's not a there's not a
loss team in the running right now. I think that
that's what makes this weekend so it is such an
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amazing weekend slate of games. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
was good that. Yeah, run it back. It's not like
a run back. There is not a loser of a
game or of a team to go into. From my perspective,
I think all of them, it's like I wouldn't be like,
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oh that's a let down, God darn Sam friend made
it in or oh my gosh, can you believe that
Kansas City and Pat Mahomes made it in? Like, name
one name one other than brock Purty where you're like,
can you believe that that Jalen Hurts made it into
the super Bowl? Now, I'm okay with that. Check off
the box. Can you believe that Joe Burrow made it
into the super Bowl? I'm okay with that. Check off
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the box. Can you believe that Patrick Mahomes made it
into to the super Bowl? Check off the box. I'm
okay with that. And for real, for real, a rookie Mr.
Irrelevant making it into the super Bowl, I'm all right
with that. Because we haven't seen it. I think it's
a win for everybody. I think it's a win. Yeah,
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it's kidding about the think about the storylines. Like jonas
you said at the other day, you got the Andy
Reid Red Bowl at the Andy Reid Bull there. If
you if if you're a true diehard football fan and
you're are probably age, you remember those you know Bengals
forts like you remember those matchups heartbreakers. There's John Candy
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right there. That's right, that's right, that's right. You know,
if you if you don't get that, let's see you
get a combination of you know, Cincinnati versus Philly or
however and ends up working out. I just I still
look at I think there's there's gonna be some big
storylines either way. Like there's gonna be like these matchups,
you can't go wrong. So I said it before the
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beginning of the week. You have the two best teams
in each conference as far as looking at the entire season,
the entire body of work, and you have the two
hottest teams in the NFL, the teams with the longest
winning streets coming into the playoffs, and now they're in
their conference championship games. And I know that. Look, Cincinnati
was the three seed. I think as we've seen, they
were better than Buffalo, so I mean they dominated Buffalo.
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I do think this is the one in two. The
factor wanted two seeds from each conference in the conference
title games, which is going to be fantastic. And that
that Bengals Chiefs game with all the trash being talked,
And in my mind, Burrow and my Homes are the
two best quarterbacks in the NFL right now, correct, I'll
take Burrow. Yeah, So you're getting the two best quarterbacks
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in the NFL playing it out on Sunday. And you
made the point Brady Manning Brady part two. Maybe we
get that again for the next several years. And we're
getting it for a second year in a row. I mean,
if you're the NFL, I know, maybe you'd like some
more star power. Don't under sell brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts.
Maybe you're getting a Manning Brady on that side of it.
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They're young, and Brock Purdy could turn out to be
one of those talents that he's that one diamond in
the rough like Tom Brady. And granted, Jalen Hurts wasn't
a top draft pick. What where do you go? What
number that man like? And they're both there. I mean,
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I just think it's it. Brock Party makes it to
the super I mean, let let me ask you guys this.
I feel like he should have already solidified being the
starting quarterback for this team by being in the championship
round up. Great, he wasn't dominant, he wasn't dominant in
in the last game, but he did what he was
supposed to do. Some quarterbacks would have lost that game
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trying to do well. Think about it, Dak Prescott, Dak Prescott, listen,
he just broke up with his girlfriend too. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, but what was the differential in that game? Six?
Seven point? Seven points? Okay, seven point and and we
said that three points each for both turnovers? Right, it
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was six total at six points a total at six
points on the turnovers and I missed extra point. There's
your difference in the game. So I'm just saying, even
though brock Party didn't have this amazing like blow you
away game, he had more yards throwing than than Dak Prescott,
who was paid as and considered to be a franchise quarterback.
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A lot of people debate the whole idea of how
good Dak Prescott is on the He's a franchise good quarterback.
So Brod Purdy outdueled him, He'll do him, uh stat wise,
and they won the game. So he played his part.
Some would say that's more valuable than the dude that
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goes out there like an Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady
and goes out there and wins the game, just saying
because he's not making mistakes, he might be the starter.
He might be like a future star. He might be
a star of this league, and Jalen Hurts might not be.
It's two years in a row now for Jalen Hurts. Yeah,
it's it's hard to protect with Purdy because every quarterback
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that plays that system hasn't great here. I mean it's
it's it's fair, but there's not many systems that have
that much talent around the position and to sort of
play caller that just has a really i mean a
track record from Houston and Washington, in Atlanta, in San Francisco,
like even Brian Horrier, I think his best year is
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in Cleveland when he was there for a year. Josh
Gordon's best year at Cleveland that year, Like you start
coming through and you go, man, this dude knows how
to get production and knows how to get the best
out of his players. That's why I've always been a
fan of his. Man that dude played he played r
G three on differently than the way he played Kirk
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Pussons in the same exact flipping season. I watched it
with my own two eyes. He's a genius man, so
different ways. I think the more interesting storyline is going
to be is if Jimmy Garoppolo is healthy, Like do
you even contemplate that or do you say we're riding
the hot hat, Because the reality is we've seen Jimmy
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g get to a super but we've seen him before,
so you know, you've got that experience factor. And it's
not like the teammates don't love Garoppolo like they love
that guy. No way, ain't no way you get there
with him. You gotta stick. Ain't no way. What if
I kind of get that sense, what if they get
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there despite him? He throws a couple of picks, he
has a bad game, but but that defense balls out
and San Francisco goes to the super Bowl. It's a
risk in general, though, think about the rust, I mean
think about your you want to Garoppolo to come in
the first game back he gets, coming to the super Bowl,
it's a super Bowl like, that's a that's such a
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big risk. I almost think you have to go with
thirty and if he struggles and you just look at Jim,
you go, hey, man, you were talked about. We've talked
about how Zach Wilson has been derailed by the way
they they should have just kept him in there and
let him Well, I'll tell you what, Hey, Brock, thanks
for getting us to the super Bowl. Uh, we'll take
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it from here. Appreciate Here's the difference. Zach Wilson was
drafted number two. That's part of the truth. Mr Irrelevant.
He was the third option this year. They've already got
through two other quarterbacks. Um, So let me ask you
guys this before we get to break. Who's got the
right to claim Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow? All right?
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Because Joe Burrow started at Ohio State and then he
went to l s U. Can Ohio State claim him
and can Alabama claim Jalen Hurts even though he finished
his career in Oklahoma. It's always the last school that
I personally don't feel like Ohio State nor Alabama can
claim it. That's why I think the transfer portal was
a bunch of class So the last school can be
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the only one to claim it. I mean, it can't
be the only one to claim them, but it's the
only one that's valid. It's the only one that's legit,
because you're basically like, this isn't working for us, so
we have to break up. I mean, do you claim
your your ex girlfriend? Do you claim them? You claim
your exes? Depends on who you don't claim. I don't play.
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I don't claim not a one. Hell no. If you
en act you an ex, I can't claim you. We
could be cool, but we've got I can't like, how
am I claiming? And are they claiming you? And why
would they claim your sticks? You're weird. You're a Hall
of Famer claim me and you're weird? What's that Cuntr's song?
It's like all my exes live in Texas or something
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like that, right there? So do why the same old
house as how? Now? That's how I heard it in
my head. All mine live in Tijuana. It's a different uh,
and they cost it just a nice little that's not
a lie. And there wasn't very many paceos that I
had to pay, that is correct. And that was at home,
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that's correct. That was called twenty bucks will get you
a bucket of beer. And then it was called Hong
Kong Hong Kong, which I never understood that. Why would
Hong Kong be in Tijuana? Well, I don't know. I've
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never been, but people said it's legit. Why you never go?
That's what I heard. Back when the Chargers used to
play in San Diego used to be a little reader.
Fans in there asked Barrett Robbins, that's where he watched
the Super Bowl. App got caught up. They said, he's
still there. You may as well be. Why not? The
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Thailand just never came back. I ain't never coming back.
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Always a fun and joyous time, despite the middle fingers
that were thrown up two minutes into the show. But
we're often running here and uh, you know, we mu
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must start with, you know, just some real confidence, real
confidence and support being shown by a recent hire. Because
let me tell you something. If you thought Robert Sala
trying to sell you on Zack Wilson as his starting
quarterback with something, you ain't heard nothing yet. Here was
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Robert Sala talking about the higher of his brand new
offensive coordinator, Nathaniel Hackett. When it came back to a
certain checklist that I was trying to go through, just
checking boxes on what we're looking for with regards to
his next offensive coordinator. Just kept circling back to him.
He checks every box, really really excited about this being
able to get Nathaniel here. There's a lot of strengths
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with him. His commitment to complimentary football, the experience, the
innovative teacher he's got. He's got a laundry list of
stuff that we're all really really excited about. He's got
a proven history of being able to develop a heck
of a run game and every stop that he's ever
been in. Got a proven track record of tremendous relationships
with all the quarterbacks as he's ever working with, and
he's gotten great had success with all the quarterbacks that
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he's worked with. I mean, I'm sold. I'm sold. That
was the missing piece. That was the missing piece, and
now he's the quarterback whisper he's needed for Zach Wilson. Well, yeah,
I mean, you know, I mean Nathaniel Hackett. Also, according
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to Robert Sala, he said that, you know, the plan
is they're going to bring in a veteran quarterback, but
you know he's still standing behind Zach Wilson. That's that's
still his guy here. So it's interesting. I mean, I want,
I would love to have Robert Sala as my coach
because that guy would throw some support behind me even
in my downtime. So apparently, Brady Quinn, you're New York Jets,
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a one time member. The New York Jets have found
themselves an O C and we're off and running. So
the first thing I saw when I saw this news
being reported was the media stepping up stating they're very complementary.
UM view on the hiring of Nathaniel Hackett with the Jets.
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I mean, I'm not gonna name names. It got to
the point where I was like, Okay, here we are.
I've said this to you guys before throughout the course
of the season. Was anyone as complementary of the Jets
and their team and the way they would defend Zach
Wilson and the way they tried to defend this team
when they went into a tail spin. When I tried
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to tell people that's what I kind of foresaw happening.
They're a young team, talented but young, and they were
gonna try to rely on a lot of young players
to step up and make the playoffs, and the quarterback
situation was not good there. So we've seen this story before.
We've seen how I don't know if it's the relationship
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that Robert Sala has with the media. I don't know
if it's the front office and the relationship they have
with the media, or if it's New York Jets. And
and there's so many people who are around that organization
that are dying for them to be successful, and dying
for all the people who are there to maintain the job,
because you do feel like going into this year, if
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they don't figure this out, they could be one of
those teams you're looking at with the new head coach, right,
I mean That's how I see it at least. And
so I'm watching all of this, I'm going, what is
going on? It came off like a coordinated effort that
you like see on Twitter, you know, when you get
all those bots who are like, you know, you say, um,
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you know whatever, You're like, you know, I'm hungry for
a hamburger. Next thing, you know, you see all these
different ads for like a hamburger pop up in your email,
pop up like Twitter or something else. I'm going, why
are there so many people who are being so complimentary
about this higher And it wasn't because look, Nathaniel Hackett
is by all accounts a great guy, and everyone will
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say that about him. He's a great guy. He does
have good relationships with his players. He is unique in
the manner of which he coaches. But there wasn't one
media person, not one that pointed out the fact that
he has struggled as a play caller. There was one
that actually the only thing he didn't point out to
me was his one year that he actually really excelled
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as a play caller, and that was the year in
the seventeen I believe with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Like that
was the one thing he pulled. What about the two
seven to the Jaguars. I'm like, wasn't that Leonard four Nett?
And he didn't for at every one of his best
years and have his career running the football? Was that
that they don't Hackett? But you go, you go back
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to the years in Green Bay. He wasn't. He wasn't
calling plays. And so the one year he's got really
to hang his hat on is two thousand and seven
with the Jacksonville Jaguars and Blake Barrels, which I guess
you'd say that was his best season, but I I
just look at it, Well, I don't know about that,
but but what I'm doing is I'm just trying to
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pay a more objective picture to it, and I think
the objective side of it is And this is what
one of the media members had said to me. I said,
help me on a stand where all the compliments and
everything is coming from. And eventually we got to the
point where he said to me, if Robert Salos on
the hot seat, what who else was he gonna hire?
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What offensive coordinator is available, has a track record, has
experienced doing it, that you can hire and not feel
like you're experimenting if you've got one year to prove yourself.
I'm like, valid point. You know, I can't think of
many other names on top of my head of guys
who are a young budding star that but to have
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a track record and could leave their current OC position
to then come be offensive coordinator for the Jets. Like that,
you can't move for a lateral move in the NFL.
You have to move up if you want to leave.
So anyone you're you're bringing on is gonna be a
guy who's probably unproven. It might be a great offensive mind,
but you don't really know when you might go through
some growing pains there. So I can understand why rist
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sala hired Nathaniel Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett will have a good
relationship with that Wilson Um. You know, he's he's called
plays before, he's he's gonna try to, you know, do
exactly what Robert Salo want him to do. And then
the final pieces if they are putting together a package. Again,
Aaron Rodgers doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to have a
guy that he's familiar with, an offensive system he's familiar with,
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to then go try to lure him away and maybe,
you know, make a trade with the Green Bay Packers.
If they're thinking that in the back of their head,
why couldn't they just hire him and let that be it?
You know what I mean? Like, why can't you just
make a hire of a coordinator and let that be
of the cell job just reeks of an organization that's sensitive?
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Am I wrong? By the way, did you guys notice
the same thing? It's been all year though, But like
all the all the pushback you got because you you
were talking about the schedule, like all of that, and
and it was like if you made one comment about
the Jets, all of a sudden people got bombarded with
what it was. It was like you were speaking out
against the COVID vaccine or something like. People just couldn't
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handle it and they went just has anything to do
with well, no, not at all. One and done with
that one, by the way. But it's just the whole thing.
Was it just reeks of an organization that's sensitive. They
know that they've been the dormat of the NFL and
the butt of jokes for years and years and years,
and they can they can try and sell everybody on
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Nathaniel Hackett all they want. Fact of the matter is,
the problem wasn't the quarter quarterback or a coordinator. Rather,
the problem was the quarterback. The defense was fine, They've
got the Rookie of the Year, who's up for the
the award. They've got the defensive Rookie the Year potentially,
like the roster is growing. They're in a good place.
They did win games. Once Hall went out with the
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injury against Denver, you saw that the team went in
a different direction. To me, this just is like them
selling everybody on Nathaniel Hackett. But if you don't land
a quarterback, you're still back to the same point. That's
that's the quarterback. Yes, I don't think I don't think
a coordinator. Was the issue was ck Wilson. He everybody
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to every to a man, everybody says he works really hard,
he shows up, puts the time in. It's the fact
that it became a thing. Robert Salom made it a thing,
and then Zach Wilson started to melt down publicly, and
then he started to get the yips or whatever you
want to call it. They can say, well, you know
it's it's the coordinator and try and make whatever excuse
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they want. This has got to be a play for
Rogers asked to be wow, Well, I mean what he
came out and said he wanted to put up some
big time money to to get a big time quarterback
in there. I just I just felt like the way
Robert slo talked about the development and the maturity that
he was looking for out as Zach Wilson, him talking
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about Hackett, the way that he's talking about Hackett and
in the in the press conference sounds as though he's
bringing in a quarterbacks coach. He's bringing in someone who
can build a relationship and cracked the coat with Zach Wilson.
That's what if. That's what I took from it. Can
we touch it well mean and that and that that
might be part of it, right, and part of it's
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to be developing Zach Wilson only st that's what they
keep saying. Someone explained to me, Let's play out the
hypothetical of Aaron Rodgers as a New York Jet. He
currently has two years left on his deal, so if
any team trades for him, he's at least getting traded
for two years left on his deal. As far as
what the money looks like, that's up for negotiation. And
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obviously Aaron Rodgers has a no trade clause. He would
have to agree to whatever team he's being traded to.
But let's say, for example, he gets traded to the
New York Jets. Zack Wilson has played two years in
the league. He's got two years left on his deal
after this upcoming season because he was a first round pick,
they have to decide on his fifth year option. Assuming
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you trade for Aaron Rodgers, he has two years left
on his deal, how does this work out where you're
developing Zach Wilson. It's the same thing I said about
Jordan Love, who's a year ahead of Zach Wilson, Like,
you're not developing him. You're not saying what you have
in him, You're trying to figure out a way to win.
Yeah and so and so you've got Rogers for two years. Meanwhile,
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how could you ever pick up a fifth year option
on the quarterback you saw and the last time you
saw you had benched numerous times because he wasn't developed enough,
right and so and so, then like you're saying, oh,
he's not done here, It's like, what do you mean?
You got Rogers here for the next two years, And
by the time Rogers has done with that porst of
his contract will be a free agent. So I just
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I don't really see the whole logical path to developing
Zach Wilson with the Jets and having him there. As
I said before, and as much as I didn't see
things working out for the Jets this season, I also
hated how they handled things for Zach. I wish they
would have let him stay in there, fight through the
adversity and see if he can build from that, and
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and if he can't, so be it. But jerking him
in and out of the lineup that doesn't help. So
now you find yourself in no man's land, And I
just I feel like they'd be better off trading him
somewhere else, giving him a chance to go compete, go
play somewhere else with the two years left on his deal,
instead of sitting behind Aaron Rodgers. I just I don't
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think that's the best thing for him. And then he
becomes a free agent, then what do you do? Well,
I'd say this, it puts Nathaniel Hackett in a position
to get back to being a head coach if he
can be successful with whoever the quarterback is. That's it's
it's a it's a prime opportunity because of how big
the market is, and if they are able to win
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it does it does position him to be able to
put his name back in that hat eventually. So it
could be. I mean, there's a lot of incentive value
for Hackett to come in and be the guy that
salvages a top draft pick for for the franchise. I
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wonder what would be the most advantageous situation for him though,
I mean, clearly it would be if you were able
to get Aaron Rodgers in there. That would clearly be
what what would be most advantageous? But I just I'm
curious as too is Nathaniel Hacket there as the guy
to come in that they think can help Zach Wilson
get on track. Not to bring it back up, but
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I mean, I mean it is kind of odd though,
to think, like Woody Johnson, Johnson Johnson, the whole COVID vaccine.
I mean, I would be pretty funny. How is that?
I just I don't know, you know, I just that
would be pretty funny. That's connecting the dots here. That's like, well, listen,
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this could be a locker room also. You remember I
was thinking about this and because we brought it up
at the time because we thought it was a little
bit strange. So when they drafted Zack Wilson the Jets
and they were just going to roll with him as
their starting quarterback, Remember we were having the conversation, it's
a little odd they didn't have a veteran backup behind him,
like because Joe Flacco wasn't there yet. It was a
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little odd that they were just going to roll into
the season and it was just gonna be Zach Wilson
and then you had Mike White as the backup, especially
because you remember the tragedy with Greg Knapp, who was
the quarterbacks coach there who that offseason before Zach Wilson's
rookie year passed away in a bike accident. It felt
like there was a lot of stuff going on there
and they could have used that veteran presence for Zach Wilson.
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And what do they do, you know, weeks later into
the season, like week ten or something like that, they
traded for Joe Flacco. If you actually look at the
timeline of this, Brady Robert Sale hasn't handled this whole
thing great. Was Zach Wilson throughout? Like if you just
go from the start, because I remember we were having
the conversation going, don't you want somebody there just in
case or maybe a start the year? He all Zach
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Wilson had to show for it was a weird schedule
in a COVID year, Like wouldn't you want some veteran
there to at least start the season and then you
transition to Zack Wilson And that wasn't the plans. If
you go back from the impetus of Zach Wilson's time
with the Jets, this thing started off on an odd
foot with Robert it's the most important position, and I
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think again LaVar is probably one of the few defensive
minds that I know that would be an exception to this.
But in the NFL, I think there's a lot of
examples of defensive coaches who do not handle the quarterback position. Well.
Brian Flores was one, Robert Salo was one. How about this,
Bill Belichick was one last year. Like, if if we're
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really going to start kind of pulling out the different
defensive minds who didn't handle their quarterback situation, well I
would put Bill Belichick into that situation with hiring Matt
Patricia to then call plays when you're trying to make
a pivotal decision on whether or not Mac Jones can
play and be the guy, and you're bringing the guy
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just because you trust him. He's the first time I
was seeing. Now, granted, they've made up for that mistake
in hiring Bill O'Brien Bob as they call him in Boston. Yeah,
but the reality is there are callous, defensive minded head
coaches who do not understand how to help with that
match raction process grow the quarterback to get the most
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out of him, especially when you draft them as a rookie.
I mean, there's callous examples of it as defensive mind
head coaches. And this is another one, like based on
some of the things you've laid out, but I think
even just this year and how he handled the kind
of the need to say, we need to win now.
I need to put in Mike White, I need to
put in Joe Flacco, I need to put in these
other guys instead of saying, look, if you believe in
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your quarterback, then go let him fight for you. Go
let him play through it. You know, see how mentally
tough to you to see if he could fight through
all this stuff and go playing and get better. He's
not gonna get better sitting on the bench. Be sure
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app so Um.
Dan Quinn sniffs around the open coaching opportunities in the league,
does a couple interviews, and decides, Yeah, I'm gonna go
ahead and stay back in Dallas yet again. Dan Quinn
returns to the Dallas Cowboys to be their defensive coordinator
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for another season. Apparently didn't like what he saw. And
I don't know Indianapolis or Denver or you name it.
And dan Quinn is back, uh in in in the
Dallas Cowboys locker room, in the Dallas Cowboys coaches office.
He's gonna be coaching up that defense again. What you
gotta think is a is a big win for the
Cowboys this offseason after they let go of a bunch
of assistants. So there it is. Dan Quinn's back, Brady's cousin,
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dan Quinn back right. Yeah, probably surprised by this, Yes,
I I just assumed that he went through the interviews
last year he decided to come back. All he did
was grow his resume and and increase his stock this
year with the way that defense played. And yet he
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just decides he wants to go back. Maybe that's more
telling of whatever the hell he saw from the interviews
that he was on what's out there. I mean, you
gotta figure he saw the name tag on the door
when he came into Denver's facility. You know, there's the
rest of his office, you know, stuff like that. I mean,
you just got to believe that he's looking at this
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this opportunity the same way we've been I mean the
same way we're discussing Sean Payton, right and and to
that point, que Que talked about it earlier. He's a
defensive coach. I'm not gonna walk into a situation with
Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson and I don't have the
support or or the understanding of what what my relationship
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would be with the GM. I'm not coming into one
of those conference sational situations. Just not you. You already
have established yourself where you're at. So outside of anything borring,
anything crazy taking place, He's going to continue to build
that equity and and grow his opportunity to get another
job the type that he would want to leave and take.
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I mean, he's taking the interview, so he's already he's
he's allowed everyone to know he does want to be
a head coach. So it's not that he's staying in
Dallas because he you know, he just would rather be
in Dallas. He's staying in Dallas because of what you
just said, Jonas. There's something that he's seen and and
he felt with the interviews that maybe we're the most
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most attractive jobs to take, and he didn't want to
do it too big of a risk. I think you
have to be selective when it's your second time becoming
a head coach. I mean, we we tend to forget
this man took a team to his Super Bowl and
theyve and should have won, unfortunately, should have one. Unfortunately
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blew one of the biggest leads we've ever seen the
Super Bowl, so the biggest um and so we tend
to kind of cast that off because of what happened afterwards.
But I look at it and I think, as any
candidate who's been a head coach once, you know how
rare it is to get a head coaching opportunity the
second time, and so you better pick the right one,
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you know, you better pick one where you can have
a chance for success. The ownership, the general manager, the
head coach is in alignment, and you feel good about
everything going into it, because at one point in time,
this was a team that had the m v P
at quarterback in Atlanta, had won a NFC championship, goes
to a Super Bowl, and then once they were hit
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with adversity, things started to fall apart a bit in Atlanta.
And it's frustrating because that was I mean one they
were a really good team was fun to watch while
he was there, but it's got to be frustrated to
watch sometimes. You know when people when when adversity strikes,
people start looking for life. This people start getting out
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pick axes and they're even looking to save themselves or
they're looking to take the ship down, and and that
could be a hard thing to be a part of.
So he's wise, he's been there before. He knows, I
think what he's looking for or has much better idea
of what he's looking for this time around. And I
just think he's gotta be he knows, he's got to
be careful about it because he's also not that old.
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I mean, he can coach for a long time. And
I would say, look coaching in Dallas. One part of
me thought when I saw this that maybe and you
guys tell me if this is wrong. Jerry didn't pull
him besides, hey, now, hey, I want I want you
to listen to me. Now. Things don't work out with
Mr Michael McCarthy, He's like, I will, I'll just make
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you the head coach, so you stay here. We can
elevate you into that spot. All right, you're my guy.
Things don't work out, You're You're a guy here. I
mean they're kind of I kind of feel like there's
like a wink nod nod agreement there is there not.
Jerry was saying that out loud basically this offseason, which
McCarthy had to answer for and got frustrated with, and
then Jerry Jones trying to say, well, I don't know
why that's even a discussion here. Mike McCarthy's are head coach, dude,
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because you bring up these other names all the time.
You were the one talking about dan Quinn should be
a head coach. So if he's saying that out loud,
d percent, I believe he's had those conversations with dan Quinn. Yeah,
that's him live from Jalisco. Lose, lose dan Quinn. What
does the Dallas Cowboys have. I don't know. Michael Parsons
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da remember somehow? Thank you, thank you, Jerry uh. I
just they're going to Mexico. They lose dan Quinn right now?
Who doesn't mean I know, I know a lot of
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people are high on Kellen Moore, but there are I mean,
I don't Well, you seld the most face of report
they said he might not even be back, and well,
I mean that's, by the way, that's an odd one.
How could you have a guy's interviewing for head coaching
jobs lose his current job. Yeah, aren't they saying the
same thing at the enemy too, that he may not
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be back in Kansas City Because it was there was
some question he was going to even be back last year,
and then I think he's done interviews, if I'm not mistaken,
this year, he's done a couple, and now there's some
questions he's going to be back. I just think I
think this is also pretty damning of Russell Wilson, because
dan Quinn U should be running coaches should be clamoring
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to coach Russell Wilson and Broncos. Dan Quinn was part
of that staff that coached Russell Wilson in Seattle. He
was a defensive coordinator when they won that Super Bowl. Yeah.
The fact that he looks at it and goes no, no, yeah,
even all the all the money they've got a let
me see what y'all got here. Let me think. Let
me see office. We must be some really big, nice office.
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It must be the nicest one in there. Okay, do
you do you think do you think Russell Wilson has
a picture of Russell Wilson in Russell Wilson's office, like multiples, yeah,
like all over him and him, I mean him in
the family. You have to assume, like what do you
what do you like? Now? What kind of pictures are
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we talking about? Says? I mean maybe some maybe some
like you know, like during the pregnancy we got to
do You don't Seattle, You guess they do, Seattle. You
got a high draft pick is what you got? That?
That's what you got, Seattle. So like the fact that
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he didn't even want any part of it. You know what,
I'm gonna set this one out because the owners of
the Broncos could offer more than anybody else, correct as
far as the team's available, like they can they can
write a check for any amount to bring whatever code
they want. In to the fact that, you know, dan
Quinn looked at that and I I was like, I don't know,
you have to you have to keep in mind again
the coaches salaries are not subject at the salary cap,
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So it really comes down to how much money you
want allocates your coach, how much do you value the
job that he does? And that's essentially what you know,
anyone would have to decide he wants to hire Sean
Payton because he's already floated out there, like you know,
the asking price going into it, and that that's He's
another interesting one you got to talk about. As far
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as it's it's looking like a reality. He might not,
you know, coach, you might just go back into uh
in the broadcasting again. Can I issue this about the
Cowboys if they come back this next season and it's
one and done in the playoffs, or they get to
the same point divisional round and they lose again and
it looks bad and the optics are bad and the
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final play is bad, or even if they for whatever
reason don't make the playoffs, they deal with some injuries,
they take a step back. There's always turn over from
playoff teams to non playoff teams. Like we're looking at
tearing it down and going in a different direction. Correct,
Because I would assume Mike McCarthy's not back, The Dak
Prescott conversation is gonna get louder and louder. We don't
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even know if Zeke is going to be back this
upcoming season. You're gonna have to pay Michael Parsons sooner
rather than later. It just it feels like this is
it for Dallas as far as this era of Cowboys football.
And they may have already gotten as far as they
could possibly go when in Das rookie year they were
hosting that Divisional round game and they lost to the
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Packers and that great game. It just feels like it's
all cards in the middle of the table. You're going
all in this season, and if it doesn't get done
this year, there's gonna be massive overhaul and just changes
there with the Dallas Cowboys, not only on the coaching staff,
but on the roster as well too. I mean, you're
already kind of there, right might not come back, your
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DC is coming back. You moved on from five coaches already,
your old line whether you want to say they weren't fired,
their contracts expired, okay, at semantics to a degree, Um,
they already have to some degree. I think after next year,
it's on Mike McCarthy, but it's also on dak you know.
I think at that point then you're really gonna get
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the heat turned on as to if he's gonna be
there or not. Um, And if they're not going to
try to find someone to supplant him like, that's that's
who the pressure is on now, and the reality is
that's how it always is. It's always the head coach,
it's always the quarterback. But next year, if they can't
get further, if they can't do more, that's who all
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the you know, fingers are gonna point to it. It's
gonna be about Dak Prescott of what his ceiling is
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By the way, I feel like a little bit of
an a hole for not bringing this up to you guys.
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It's a football Frido, Football Friday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, alright, alright,
alright your face right, come on dahn alright, brno perno
fo yeah yeah, two pros and a cup of joe here.
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It is a football Friday. We've got the conference championship
games that are taking place, uh this weekend. By the way,
last call, we're gonna make our picks against the spread
coming up later on this hour. So we're gonna give
one last statement on these games and let it ride
into the weekend. Let it rip. And by the way,
you see, Christian McCaffrey said there's a zero percent chance
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he misses this game. I know, Brady, you were concerned
about him missing this game with that calf issue, but
he sensors zero percent chance. Well it wasn't someone's notes yesterday.
They were bloviating about how this Philly just runs with
the more I see this, more I like Philly and
this someone point you know, it's funny you bring it up.
I actually feel the same way. I don't know who
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you were talking about, but I feel the same way. Also,
I think Philly's gonna roll and then then and they
might like I go back to what we said yesterday.
This was the seventeen Pro Bowlers or Pro Bowl arthurnates. Yeah,
that's for teacherous. I think, are we being serious? Is
that the most for one team? Um? I think it's
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gotta be because in Indianapolis had what last year seven
or eight? But I think I don't think they had
that many alternates, but they had seven or eight because
that was the big discussion that like Jonathan Taylor and
those guys were sitting at the Pro Bowl right what happened.
It's like, wow, Carson Wantz, you know, you guys melted
down in the clown. But but but the funny thing
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about it is, and Lee counted this sub yesterday, so
I'm surely knows how the top of his head, what
do we count like twelve? As far as for San Francisco,
there there Pro Bowlers and Pro Bow alternates, I think
thirteen six plus I think they had seven alternates. So
think about that. You've got like possibly thirty players who
either Pro Bowls starters are altered it on these two teams.
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What's the most number of Pro Bowlers starters in one year?
And yeah, like, what would you guess? What do you
think it is? Because this has got to be in
the contemplation when they won the Super Bowl. Maybe you
think a couple of years ago. No, no, the first
one Brooks and Simeon Rice and warrants. You know, I'm
gonna stop doing that. You don't disrespectful every time we
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say that Tampa Bay Bucks team, like we never say
that Brad Johnson team. We always just say all the
Derrek Brooks team. I'm gonna stop doing that. You mean
the Brad Johnson bocks that what you mean those guys?
I'm not gonna go for your bait. What do you mean?
I'm not a hooking real type of dude. What are
you talking your base? Say? I throw some respect on
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Brad Johnson's name teammates when you talking about the Ravens
that was my quarterback and the way they treated him that, Yeah,
it's Joe Flacco Ravens. They put Georgia and over top
of quarterbat. So I'm not trying to be the bearer
of bad news. Uh, the money is starting to move
on Philadelphia. I'm even seeing it at three in some places.
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The betting line the Eagles are up to a minus three.
But no rookie quarterback has ever won a conference championship game.
There's been five that have been there, and no rookie
quarterback has ever won a conference title game. So and
the and the money is moving on. Who on Philadelphia
it is? You mean you mean the percentage of bets,
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not actually the sharp money. No, the money About sev
of the bets that are placed are on Philly. So
you know how this works, right for for people out
there don't understand how this works is line movements based
off the amount of money coming in, not the amount
of bets placed. So think about it this way. If
you've got a line that currently, hypothetically speaking, sits at
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two and a half, and let's just say it happens
to be the Philadelphia Eagles laid two and a half
first to San Francisco, If seventy of those bets are
coming in on Philly roughly approximately, that means there on
the other side, well that then obviously are placing higher
bets or more money on the line even though it's
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only according to get it to stay at that number.
Does that make sense, Yes, that's yeah, so minus one
fift in some places for Philadelphia at the minus two
and a half, So it feels like we're on the
move here to three. That's sort it feels like to me,
all right, And wherever the money's coming from, the money
on the other side on San Francisco is the wrong
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place to be because Philadelphia is going to win this
game and history says so. And and the fact that
you're not being a little bit more supportive of your guy,
Nick Sirianni, I think it's a disgrace to your newfound
Italian heritage. I think it's no that looked they very
well could win this can there's no doubt about it.
I think if you look at who has been the
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hottest team who has been playing gray labits, but's San Francisco.
Philly has to but they kind of went through that
low period with with Minshew in there. And we'll see,
we'll see how thinks. I think those defense is dominant, man,
They're so dominant, and I think we might be overlooking,
like the Giants were a great story this year that
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was not as tough as an opponent as I think
some realized. It's almost how we looked at Dallas beating Tampa,
like here it comes to Dallas, they're gonna beat San Francisco,
and you're like, that's a pretty good point, are they?
But but but, but I will say this, Dallas was
nowhere near as dominant a team this season as Philly
has been. So that's where I would say that that
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that falls off the rails. But but let's be clear here,
the offense of San fran was not there. And that's
what's to me the biggest concern is they may need
more points this week. That defense may very well show
that they're going to travel, that defense is going to travel,
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but they still may need some more points than nineteen.
They may need more than that. That they may need
more than that. What do you What do you guys
think is the best matchup in the Super Bowl? That
would that would mean the best game. Honestly, I just
think they all work. I don't think there's a loss
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in this. I really don't. If San Fran or Philly
goes to the Super Bowl, that's not a loss. If
if Kansas City or Cincinnati goes to the super Bowl.
It's not a loss. There's not a there's not a
loss team in the running right now. I think that
that's what makes this weekend so it is such an
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amazing weekend slate of games. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
was good that. Yeah, run it back. It's not like
a run back. There is not a loser of a
game or of a team to go into. From my perspective,
I think all of them, it's like I wouldn't be like,
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oh that's a let down, God darn Sam friend made
it in or oh my gosh, can you believe that
Kansas City and Pat Mahomes made it in? Like, name
one name one other than brock Purty where you're like,
can you believe that that Jalen Hurts made it into
the super Bowl? Now, I'm okay with that. Check off
the box. Can you believe that Joe Burrow made it
into the super Bowl? I'm okay with that. Check off
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the box. Can you believe that Patrick Mahomes made it
into to the super Bowl? Check off the box. I'm
okay with that. And for real, for real, a rookie Mr.
Irrelevant making it into the super Bowl, I'm all right
with that. Because we haven't seen it. I think it's
a win for everybody. I think it's a win. Yeah,
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it's kidding about the think about the storylines. Like jonas
you said at the other day, you got the Andy
Reid Red Bowl at the Andy Reid Bull there. If
you if if you're a true diehard football fan and
you're are probably age, you remember those you know Bengals
forts like you remember those matchups heartbreakers. There's John Candy
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right there. That's right, that's right, that's right. You know,
if you if you don't get that, let's see you
get a combination of you know, Cincinnati versus Philly or
however and ends up working out. I just I still
look at I think there's there's gonna be some big
storylines either way. Like there's gonna be like these matchups,
you can't go wrong. So I said it before the
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beginning of the week. You have the two best teams
in each conference as far as looking at the entire season,
the entire body of work, and you have the two
hottest teams in the NFL, the teams with the longest
winning streets coming into the playoffs, and now they're in
their conference championship games. And I know that. Look, Cincinnati
was the three seed. I think as we've seen, they
were better than Buffalo, so I mean they dominated Buffalo.
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I do think this is the one in two. The
factor wanted two seeds from each conference in the conference
title games, which is going to be fantastic. And that
that Bengals Chiefs game with all the trash being talked,
And in my mind, Burrow and my Homes are the
two best quarterbacks in the NFL right now, correct, I'll
take Burrow. Yeah, So you're getting the two best quarterbacks
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in the NFL playing it out on Sunday. And you
made the point Brady Manning Brady part two. Maybe we
get that again for the next several years. And we're
getting it for a second year in a row. I mean,
if you're the NFL, I know, maybe you'd like some
more star power. Don't under sell brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts.
Maybe you're getting a Manning Brady on that side of it.
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They're young, and Brock Purdy could turn out to be
one of those talents that he's that one diamond in
the rough like Tom Brady. And granted, Jalen Hurts wasn't
a top draft pick. What where do you go? What
number that man like? And they're both there. I mean,
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I just think it's it. Brock Party makes it to
the super I mean, let let me ask you guys this.
I feel like he should have already solidified being the
starting quarterback for this team by being in the championship
round up. Great, he wasn't dominant, he wasn't dominant in
in the last game, but he did what he was
supposed to do. Some quarterbacks would have lost that game
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trying to do well. Think about it, Dak Prescott, Dak Prescott, listen,
he just broke up with his girlfriend too. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, but what was the differential in that game? Six?
Seven point? Seven points? Okay, seven point and and we
said that three points each for both turnovers? Right, it
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was six total at six points a total at six
points on the turnovers and I missed extra point. There's
your difference in the game. So I'm just saying, even
though brock Party didn't have this amazing like blow you
away game, he had more yards throwing than than Dak Prescott,
who was paid as and considered to be a franchise quarterback.
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A lot of people debate the whole idea of how
good Dak Prescott is on the He's a franchise good quarterback.
So Brod Purdy outdueled him, He'll do him, uh stat wise,
and they won the game. So he played his part.
Some would say that's more valuable than the dude that
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goes out there like an Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady
and goes out there and wins the game, just saying
because he's not making mistakes, he might be the starter.
He might be like a future star. He might be
a star of this league, and Jalen Hurts might not be.
It's two years in a row now for Jalen Hurts. Yeah,
it's it's hard to protect with Purdy because every quarterback
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that plays that system hasn't great here. I mean it's
it's it's fair, but there's not many systems that have
that much talent around the position and to sort of
play caller that just has a really i mean a
track record from Houston and Washington, in Atlanta, in San Francisco,
like even Brian Horrier, I think his best year is
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in Cleveland when he was there for a year. Josh
Gordon's best year at Cleveland that year, Like you start
coming through and you go, man, this dude knows how
to get production and knows how to get the best
out of his players. That's why I've always been a
fan of his. Man that dude played he played r
G three on differently than the way he played Kirk
(41:31):
Pussons in the same exact flipping season. I watched it
with my own two eyes. He's a genius man, so
different ways. I think the more interesting storyline is going
to be is if Jimmy Garoppolo is healthy, Like do
you even contemplate that or do you say we're riding
the hot hat, Because the reality is we've seen Jimmy
(41:53):
g get to a super but we've seen him before,
so you know, you've got that experience factor. And it's
not like the teammates don't love Garoppolo like they love
that guy. No way, ain't no way you get there
with him. You gotta stick. Ain't no way. What if
I kind of get that sense, what if they get
(42:14):
there despite him? He throws a couple of picks, he
has a bad game, but but that defense balls out
and San Francisco goes to the super Bowl. It's a
risk in general, though, think about the rust, I mean
think about your you want to Garoppolo to come in
the first game back he gets, coming to the super Bowl,
it's a super Bowl like, that's a that's such a
(42:35):
big risk. I almost think you have to go with
thirty and if he struggles and you just look at Jim,
you go, hey, man, you were talked about. We've talked
about how Zach Wilson has been derailed by the way
they they should have just kept him in there and
let him Well, I'll tell you what, Hey, Brock, thanks
for getting us to the super Bowl. Uh, we'll take
(42:56):
it from here. Appreciate Here's the difference. Zach Wilson was
drafted number two. That's part of the truth. Mr Irrelevant.
He was the third option this year. They've already got
through two other quarterbacks. Um, So let me ask you
guys this before we get to break. Who's got the
right to claim Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow? All right?
(43:18):
Because Joe Burrow started at Ohio State and then he
went to l s U. Can Ohio State claim him
and can Alabama claim Jalen Hurts even though he finished
his career in Oklahoma. It's always the last school that
I personally don't feel like Ohio State nor Alabama can
claim it. That's why I think the transfer portal was
a bunch of class So the last school can be
(43:41):
the only one to claim it. I mean, it can't
be the only one to claim them, but it's the
only one that's valid. It's the only one that's legit,
because you're basically like, this isn't working for us, so
we have to break up. I mean, do you claim
your your ex girlfriend? Do you claim them? You claim
your exes? Depends on who you don't claim. I don't play.
(44:01):
I don't claim not a one. Hell no. If you
en act you an ex, I can't claim you. We
could be cool, but we've got I can't like, how
am I claiming? And are they claiming you? And why
would they claim your sticks? You're weird. You're a Hall
of Famer claim me and you're weird? What's that Cuntr's song?
It's like all my exes live in Texas or something
(44:24):
like that, right there? So do why the same old
house as how? Now? That's how I heard it in
my head. All mine live in Tijuana. It's a different uh,
and they cost it just a nice little that's not
a lie. And there wasn't very many paceos that I
had to pay, that is correct. And that was at home,
(44:47):
that's correct. That was called twenty bucks will get you
a bucket of beer. And then it was called Hong
Kong Hong Kong, which I never understood that. Why would
Hong Kong be in Tijuana? Well, I don't know. I've
(45:08):
never been, but people said it's legit. Why you never go?
That's what I heard. Back when the Chargers used to
play in San Diego used to be a little reader.
Fans in there asked Barrett Robbins, that's where he watched
the Super Bowl. App got caught up. They said, he's
still there. You may as well be. Why not? The
(45:30):
Thailand just never came back. I ain't never coming back.
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