February 15, 2023 • 45 mins
On today’s Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Aaron Rodgers calls out the insiders before his darkness retreat. The Raiders release Derek Carr before his contract deadline, so who’s most likely to sign the veteran QB? The Old P, Petros Papadakis lets loose on LeBron, the Chiefs ‘war chant’ and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Areas, Brady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox Sports Radio. So Aaron Rodgers was on with
Pat McAfee with Darkness and the star of that show
a j Hawk, the brother in law Brady Quinn, and
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he was talking about this report that came out that
he was supposed to go into his Darkness retreat on Monday.
It was a report from Ian Rapp Report, and so
Aaron Rodgers gave some thoughts on Ian Rapp Report and
Adam Schefter and also what the plan is when it
comes to sitting in the dark. I have no problem
that Rapport Schefter. I think they're really good their jobs.
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When it comes to me, they don't know, they really don't.
They don't have people in my inner circle who are sources.
I can promise you that, and anybody who would talk
to them is not in my inner circle. It's that
simple that I'm not in my Darkness retreat yet. What, oh, yesterday? Nope,
this thing has been planned for about four months and
it was always the same date, always the end of
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this week. So anybody would knowledge to the opposite of
that it's fake news. So let me just reiterate one
more time. There's an inner circle, right, and in my
inner circle, nobody talks to Ian Rappaport, to Adam Schefter
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or to any of those people. Okay, So if you're
one of those people who's talking to those people, it's
a great reminder for you you're not in the inner circle.
And if anybody else is out there saying stuff, or
if they're just making it up, which is also those
are both likely to stop with the fake news. So
there was Aaron Rodgers talking about his Darkness retreat. Can
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I can I ask you this does the fake news
when someone says that, I feel like that's triggering for people? Yeah,
because they ink Trump and they think all the other things.
Don't you think republican when you say when you say that,
I mean not to make it political, but fake news
became like almost like a Republican saying yeah basically aired
out CNN and listen. As some evidence has shown, it's
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a little bit fine around. But I guess my point
is is is like Aaron's very savvy, very calculated, like
he knows exactly what he's saying, why saying it, and
who he's saying that too. I mean even the second
part where he kind of reiterated it and said, anyone
who would be talking to them, you know, they're not
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a part of my inner circle. So I do wonder
if there's a degree of someone maybe close to him
or in proximity to him, maybe said something to someone
and they just got out sted out of the circle.
They thought they're in the circle, but they're not in
the circle anymore. Like maybe that invite has now been
taken back. So the reason he does these interviews is
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because he wants to be able gets paid. Well, oh
it does he really? Do you think that's for free?
Oh yeah, I thought it was. He's getting paid. Wow,
good for him. I don't know. Listen, I do stuff
for free Fox Sports Radio, That's what I do. I
do that for free. But when Aaron Rodgers, he wants
to be able to control the narrative. He wants to
be able to control what the messaging is. He you know,
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he wants to be able to tell his side of
the store and get his messaging out. And the fact
that he was so hell bent on making it a
point that nobody knew when this retreat was going to happen,
and that it wasn't gonna happen on Monday leads me
to believe it absolutely was playing for Monday, and it
pissed him off that that stuff got out, and so
now he's pushed it back a week. I think they
were right. I think that bothered him and I think
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that's why he had a red ass during the interview yesterday.
How's that that? That's very well put that in, you know.
I think it's interesting is he's making sure that he's
his own exclusive and I'm not mad at that. I'm
not mad at him for protecting that. I mean that
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that means he can command a premium on whatever it
is that he's doing. I mean, really, he's important enough,
and he's polarizing enough and entertaining enough where people want
to know what looks like to wear his Woldo type
deal with with Aaron Rodgers. What's what's Aaron Rodgers? Aaron
Rodgers is not as as far out, I guess as
we would consider uh Kyrie Irving in basketball, but in
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a lot of senses, he's kind of like the Kyrie
Irving of football. And also, in fairness to Rogers, there's
a lot of people that have run their mouth for
years about his family dynamic and all the other crap
that goes along with it, which is to me totally
out of line. Nobody has any idea what their time. Again,
I think he's working to become his own exclusive. So basically,
you have a handful of guys that break news before
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the news hits and and and they are the ones
that have built up this reputation. They get the inside info,
they get it out there, boom boom boom. He doesn't
want that for himself. He doesn't want anyone but Aaron
Rodgers breaking that news. So he goes on his his
which is a tremendously large and successful platform with Pat
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McAfee's show with A J. Hawk, the star of the show.
And and he makes it plain and clear that these
insiders do a great job. I'm not taking anything away
from the job that they do. They just don't know
what they're talking about. As it applies to me. You're
establishing the baseline of information that says there's plausible deniability
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for for Aaron Rodgers and anything that that comes from them,
which means that if any point in time, somebody like
aid Uh Insider rapp report gets uh, you know some
type of trade trade rumor or something like that that's
about to happen. He's basically creating the amount of doubt
in people's minds where he might ultimately be able to
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use that as as a tool of negotiation, where Okay,
you're not going to pressure me, or you're not going
to create this, or you're not going to create something
that he's not comfortable with because he's already discredit you're
basically reporting on me. You can't report on me and
it be accurate because no one that I know would
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be talking to you to me, That's how I would
interpret it. Well, I guess I'd put it this way.
Not that even that anyone that knows Aaron. It's just
you know, Aaron wouldn't tell anyone that would talk to
those folks, right, Like that inner circle I think is
is that he would say anything to or even go
on this trip with, Like it's probably not a group
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that's gonna have Adam Schefter or even wrap before on
speed dial. That's just my guess. Now, is he going
on this darkness or treat is this alone or are
people from his inner circle going? Is that the darkness
or treat. That's what I mean, that's what I've seen
being thrown out their darkness or treat darkness? And how
long is he end the dark or four days? That's man,
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that's a long ass time to be in the darkness. Yes,
Now where do you go? Like is this like? Uh,
how does that work? Do you have? Do you have
a bit? Do you have blackout curtains? Like? Is your
squatty potty and the floor? Like what? Like? How does
that work? Jonas? Is the squatty potty? Can you even
see your squatty potty? Because it's dark, so a whole
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darky do you see the whole? Thinking you're on your
squatt potty could be on something else completely And then
if you had to make that type of mistake, then
now you're smelling that you're sitting in that in the darkness,
you don't be able to see stink stink, stink is stinking.
How long is this his dark day retreat? Four? It's
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four days. It's a four day retreat. So he does he?
I think he starts on Friday and then it goes
till Monday. I mean, I'll do it day. I found
a five day for a thousand hundred and seven dollars?
Did you really bucks for fire? You're looking at it
right now, give us the rundown. What's the rundown of it? Like?
What are the amenities? If you want a darkness to treat,
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just go hang out with Lee. Oh I'm wreing. I'm
wondering why Bertoe hasn't hit the button yet? How was
this bad? What do you mean? What are you talking about?
Really strong? Right there? Bro that that was really strong
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with what you just offended me? Right, but that name
is Tyrone. That offended My brother's name is Tyrone. I
can get away with it. He was living in the
dark to five days. What's the amenities? Like? What's the
package here? I can't be much two nights before and
two nights after in a private, private room with food included,
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nine days total? How how all right? It's what food included?
How exactly are you able to get to the food
if you can't see it? I think that's after Yeah,
you're not allowed to eat, right, This is a cleansing,
That's what I'm looking at. It's not like completely and
it's not completely in the dark, so you get that. Actually,
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candle candles are not candles is different. I could I
could do life. I could do my life. And candles
scented or unscented candle, Yeah, I could do that. I
burned my face with a candle once. Yeah. I drink
too many Long Islands and I used to. I used
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to have a whole bunch of college when I was
in college. I used to have literally like almost like
some living on a prayer Madonna type video type stuff
like I used to have candles everywhere in my room,
like everywhere, like it relaxed me. I don't know, I
just felt relaxed. Candles are great. Yeah, they relaxed me
pretty much. And then one night I fell asleep faded.
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I was faded from the Long Islands and I kN
one of them candles onto my pillow. Oh she and
my drunk ass was trying to blow the blow blow
the flame out. I was sitting there like and some
of the cotton flew out of and and this is crazy,
because I had to go do to Walter cap All
American Awards like literally that that weekend or whatever. So
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I'm I'm at the Walter camp Awards with a big
as burnt face, like Crispy burnt face called me crunchy
black man. I was. I was burnt and in anyway
it worked out. But I used to always living candles
like I didn't even use lights. I used candles, like
throughout my house candles. You want a candle pro tip
when you when you go to buy a scented candle,
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smell the inside of the lid, not the actual candle.
That's how it smells when it burned. About that about
that solving problems just in time there, well it wasn't
just in time, a little late some money. But but
I'm with you though, I'm going to do that from you?
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Radio and the I Heart Radio. So the Derek Car
era with the Oakland slash Las Vegas slash Los Angeles
and whatever other city they've called home is over. Derek
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Carr is gone. He was officially released yesterday, and now
the big question becomes, the hell of the Raider is
going to do a quarterback? And where the hell is
Derek car gonna end up playing quarterback. And as we
talked about yesterday, the NFC South's got a couple of
potential teams out there, one of which, I mean the
fact that he already spent time with New Orleans that
would that would kind of give them the a little
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bit of a head start here on this whole thing. Correct,
he already I mean, you spent a couple of days
in New Orleans touring the facility and all that. It
feels like like New Orleans would be the team you
would think would have the lead here Or am I
crazier now? No? I mean, and I think he should
be looking at that roster wanting to play there. That's
a talented roster. They've got a great defense, They've got
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playmakers on offense when healthy, as solid offensive line. That
would be a place that would be a tremendous destination.
You're in a division that a team that was eight
nine last year one it so it feels a bit
wide open. I mean, you're either you're gonna be go
going at an Atlanta team that could could sign a
veteran right they could be in the mix for a
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Jimmy g or whoever else you know, maybe even Derek
Carr for that matter. Um Or they could have Desmond
Ritter as their starter coming back, could potentially be another
draft pick this year. So kind of question marks there.
Carolina is probably drafting one if they're not in on
Derek Carr. So you start kind of looking around that division.
Tampa Bay, same thing. Maybe it's Jimmy g maybe it's not.
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If it's not Derek Carr, they might be drafting one
very wide open division to go in have success. That's
a talented roster. New Orleans. I think a lot of
those NFC South teams would make some sense for Derek
Carr if he's looking at going in and trying to
have some success right away. I mean Tampa is another
one and already kind of throw in there, Carolina. Let's
just start with, for me, the brilliance of how he
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handled the scenario. Instead of being in a situation where
you know, potentially it's all based upon how the trade
value fits and works out for the teams involved with
the trade, he not only gets what he's owed from
the scenario with with the Las Vegas Raiders, but now
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he can approach any team. There's there's nobody that's off
the table, and there's no situation that's off the table.
His his his opportunities are are basically limited to the
amount of teams that are interested in him. I mean,
he could actually approach team that might not even have
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an interest in a quarterback and still ask them, you know,
is there any interests There's no there's no rules or
regulations to what he had put to you that he
is a free agent. Put it to you that way,
and I think that that's pretty pretty awesome for him
to have a free opportunity for his his team to
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negotiate a landing space for him. So regardless of where
that is, there's not going to be well, the price
tag was too high based upon what they wanted back
in compensation um for Derek Carr. Derek Carr has the
opportunity and the ability to be able to do a
deal from scratch with the team that he goes to.
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And that's probably the best scenario that you can have
playing out. Being what He's the only one that that
of of note in terms of of high profile quarterbacks
that's openly on the market right now. So he has
his choice. He has it's big, it could be Atlanta,
it could be the Saints. It could be Tampa Bay,
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you know, hell, it could be Carolina, right, it could
be a couple of other teams, that could be New York.
He's got a whole division that absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And
then it feels like, what Jimmy Garoppolo's next in line?
He would be the guy after Derek Carr. They would
look at. But it's but Jimmy, I just don't Jimmy
Garoppolo isn't as attractive as a scenario as as Derek
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Carr in my opinion. He asked, well, I mean, it
just depends on his health. If his health is isn't
in question, then then there's the idea. I mean, you
gotta keep in mind he left the season again with
an injury, and that's always it's for what it's worth,
whether it's warranted or not. That's just the book that's
out on Jimmy Garoppolo is that he gets hurt. You know,
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Derek Carr doesn't have any of those those kind of
stigmas on him. There's no real stigmas on him other
than he's almost like uh a Matthew Stafford almost, I
mean almost would say it's comparable in some in some
regards because Matthew Stafford is one of those guys said, well,
was it the organization or was it him? And you?
Some would say it's probably a little bit of both,
but I don't. I don't think for what is worth
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Derek carr Is is probably the most attractive free agent,
I'll say, or quarterback available, maybe outside of what you
assume may happen with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, who else
would you put above him? Outside I mean Jimmy Garoppolo.
I don't put him above Derek carr do you put
I put him. I could put him in the same class,
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but not not above. I don't know. That's you gotta,
you gotta, I don't you know. For me, I think
that it's a safe pick, especially as a free agent.
I think that it's a it's a it's a win
situation for you as a team. Yeah. Look, I I
think just going back to the initial point, the you
probably won't see this done again. I can't imagine it
don't happen. I get at least, you know, putting in
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this this this particular date to have an option bonus
as well as a poor just have salary guaranteed. You know,
at that point because it basically sped up when free
agency starts, at least for one player. I don't imagine
you'll see many franchises and clubs doing this moving forward.
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It seemed to be a precedent that I guess only
Las Vegas was willing to make. But whatever the case is,
it does give Derek Carr a nice jump on the
rest of the free agents out there. So even if
you view Jimmy Garoppolo and Derek Carr as even car,
you know, Car still has the opportunity to kind of
basically figure this all out before the start of the
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new league, gear which there's you know, there's power and
meet able to have the freedom to do that. So
that's that's the first thing. Derek Carr's health. His production
is one thing. His health and and the fact that
he stayed relatively healthy and as compared to Jimmy Garoppolo.
I think it's the other reason why most people would
view Derek Carr as, you know, a step above Jimmy Garoppolo,
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because when Popolo has played, he's played well, and he's
for the most part been really successful. Granted playing on
a great team in San Francisco, but you know, you
can't take that away from Jimmy g But at the
same time, you feel like you need to have a
viable backup because you know, he's a guy that's gotten
banged up. Is that a hard time staying healthy and
and one of the most underrated attributes any player could have.
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But most importantly a quarterback is durability. You know, abilities
one thing, but but durability being able to be out
there every single Sunday is is something that's probably goes
underrated because you know, people don't you know, take that
and appreciate it. But at least you're giving your team
a chance to go out and have a shot of
winning with with you back there. So I think he's
gonna be the top rated free agent quarterback, although I'll
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be curious. I said that silier this week, like if
teams are interested in both you know, car but also
exploring like, hey, what would it cost to get Aaron Rodgers? Okay?
You know the difficulty there though, is he played Rogers
place for an NFC team and so you only get
some a f C suitors and which would make sense
for the Packers standpoint, and maybe even from Roger standpoint,
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where in the Raiders you play with Tavanta Adams or
the Jets. You've got a stack roster at o c
that you know and Nathaniel Hackett, and they've already openly
said they're willing to pay and do whatever. Well, if
there's any team that's willing to pay Aaron Rodgers sixty
million this year to be their quarterback, maybe it would
be Woody Johnson the Jets, you know, because he's got
that under contracts, so maybe they don't have to rework it.
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But you know, I would say Derek Carr, at least
among the free agent quarterbacks, is at the top of
the list. I can't believe that it ended up at
this point. With the Raiders. It was last March they
traded for Davante Adams, last April he signed his new extension.
And yet here he is February and he's looking around
the NFC South for jobs like it got like just
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like that, less than a year. It went from we're
gonna pair these guys up there, close friends, their college buddies,
this is going to be the future. He finally has
some help, finally has some weapons to work with, and
less than a year later he's gone released and now
looking for work in the NFC or somewhere else. I
just can't. I don't know how this ended up at
this point. I don't get it. I don't. I don't
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understand what appened with the Raiders. Josh mc daniels is
brought in. There was supposed to be some stability there
and it was going to be and it just and
which makes me wonder, was it always going to end
up at this point where they never believers in Derek Carr?
Because if that was the case, why did they give
him the extension last year? Like that's that I just wondered.
Did Josh McDaniels really buy into Derek Carr? Was that
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all just fluff to try and you know, see how
he would perform this year? And this was always the
plan they were going to move off like a scapegoat situation.
To me, I just can't, especially the all the crap
that he took or had to deal with over the
course of the whole John Gruten, you know, debacle. I
don't get it. And before Yeah, that's the tough part
is I would hope people can understand the fact that,
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like he's only trying to do his best and then
he gets that crap thrown on his plate and he
handles it with grace and handled it extremely well. And
yet on the way out there's really no thank you
for anything. And and look, I realized people only really
will will care if they win super Bowls. But the
reality is that team, and no point in time during
his career was ever built to help and win a
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Super Bowl. Defensively, they've been awful. Offensively, they haven't provided
him with what he needs. So the truth is, even
though he hasn't played always his best football, and I
think he's accountable for that. Sometimes, Um, you know, he
was Bowl Skills challenge. I'm just saying he was what
he said that I'd still be yeah, yeah, But I
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guess the just whole point is that that it came
down to this. But you know, look, you at a
new head coach, the general manager and they want to
go in a different direction. I'm kind of more curious
to see who they get because as we've talked about
the Rodgers trade there, it makes sense because he's gotta
familiar face in Adams, but that offense, it's not that
Aaron Rodgers can't to it. He's a really smart guy,
but it's just the whole, all the verbage and all
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that stuff is different. You know. I remember being in
Kansas City with Matt Castle and Brian Dable as R O. C.
And even just from the time that I had been
with Brian Dable like three years prior, he had changed
a lot of his terminology. Like some stuff was the same,
some stuff wasn't. It was probably like a third of
what I had just three three years prior with him.
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And some of the hard part was Matt had been
in New England with Brian and so some of the
New England terms he had changed. And I'll never forget
during the course of a game, like there was a
couple of things that I think Matt had kind of
mixed up out there in the field, and you know,
coming to the sidelines and talking about it, like it
can be one of the most frustrating things because in
the heat of the moment, you're always going to resort
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to your greatest form of training. And so obviously Matt
has spent so much time with New England that you know,
he had had that ingrained in his mind. And and
for this like to have to learn a new offense,
like there's little things like that that become difficult, Like,
I don't Roger's gonna want to do that going to
the Las Vegas fraders. I mean, I don't know those are.
It's always a bigger hurdle than people realize. I just
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wonder how much runway Josh McDaniel has. McDaniels has. Now,
like you've gotten you probably can scape goat zero. You
say zero, Burno, I mean, uh, listen, BeRTOS disgusted absolutely
discussed your escape goat was car? This year? Escape goat
his car? Car is gone? Who's your escape goat? And
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by the way, Mark Davis, Uh, he may or may
not have shaved his. So there's that. That's no more
Bucky Larson, he's gone up for you. The great Bolo
cut is gone. I mean that's speculation. Yeah, look at
this britty David Carr was saying that a car wasn't
allowed to change plays the Land of Scrimmages, that McDaniels
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do that with veteran quarterbacks, or there's some seeds who
will be restrictive like that. Like I remember being with
Brian that year and we had a look at one
of our running plays and I literally like looked back
over at him because obviously I can't like talk at
that point a lot of scrimmage, like saying this isn't
gonna work, Like this guy is a free runner off
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the edge, we have no mechanism to help protect him
from running down the running back from the back side,
and so random play handed off. The exact thing happened.
I talked about it that week in meetings, and so
I went over the sidelines, and I bet we kind
of got into it a little bit because I just said, like,
what do you want us to do? So those are
called carry runs, call and run it and and the
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problem with that is is some ocs, you know, they
want to have complete control and that's how they want
to operate things. And they think that just because it's
a bad look, it doesn't mean you can't block it
up or things won't work out in your favor after
the snap of the football, because there is some luck
to it, right, Like there's been some really bad play
goals that have worked out, some really good ones that
should have worked out that didn't. But there are times
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when you're gonna have play callers who don't want you
to change it. They don't care, you know, if it's
a usually the run game pass games a little different
because you can tweak the protections, routes things like that.
But in the run game, like, yeah, you'll get some
stuff where that O C is, especially if he's got
an ego he wants you to call and run it. Yeah,
it's uh sorry, Bernoh. That's why I think Aaron Rodgers
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not gonna play. He's not. He's not McDaniels not gonna
want Aaron Rodgers with the Raiders. I mean, I'm telling you, man,
that's tough. Like McDaniels has had a lot of success
as a play caller, and when you bring in a
guy like that who wants to be out there and
have his own ability to call whatever he wants, it's
something different. Like I remember when when the Broncos were
recruiting Peyton Manning to go to Denver and John Fox
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is the head coach. He basically said to Mike McCoy
and Adam Gates and those guys like, hey, if Peyton
comes into his offense, you know he's gonna run what
he's gonna run, like, we're all gonna learn that and
not trying to make him learn what we've been doing.
And that made it a lot easier for Peyton, and
I think, you know, obviously it got going. Two thousand
and twelve was a good season, thirteen was record breaking,
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you know, and they end up winning a Super Bowl
later on. But it was just it was it was
one of those deals where you see how some head
coaches and some play callers are you know, humble enough
to kind of understand that. And Mike McCoy play quarterback,
so he completely understood Payton Manning's perspective in wanting to
come over and do that. You know, Adam Gates had
been around a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of great
offensive minds like Mike Martz. He understood it too. I
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must be doing something right because I run into so
many people that are like I listen every week at
five in the morning. Honestly, I have no idea why
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all people are doing is listening for you guys to
say and then they're sitting here and like argue about
who's gonna say it or how it's gonna be said.
And after we do that for three minutes, I'm gonna
do with Dawn Martin impression maybe about most people don't
know who Don Martin is. Uh, and then we'll talk
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about Lebron. He is a finally dressed man. No, we're
not talking about Lebron today. Why would we because we're
getting constantly nailed by the king. Whoa did he start
read a new book and he's on the first page again?
Oh that you guys don't know about getting nailed by
the king. I don't want to get nailed. You kind
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of have to, though, Petro, if you have no choice
but to get nailed by the king because thetorch, do
you remember? Yeah, the blowtorch. Thank god on the doesn't
have the Laker contract like we did when I started
working at so I don't have to like what about
the bluetorch. I don't have to like flate the Lakers
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all the time like I used to when I started
working there, and it was Kobe, not Lebron, but Lebron.
You guys remember the movie American Beauty. Yeah, with the
King a real estate and she becomes enamored with the
King of real Estate because she was like a minor.
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Well that was the daughter I'm talking about, the mom
and that banning was attractive woman, and she she let
the King a real Estate, uh meet with her in
a motel and in the very famous scene, she's got
her legs up in the air and the King a
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real Estate is saying, you like getting nailed by the King? Yeah,
and that is basically us in Los Angeles. Yeah, We're
just getting nailed by the King every single day. I mean,
it's just he doesn't play. I mean, there was all
this great sense of urgency to break the record because
all his famous friends were there, and then just stopped playing. Uh,
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the team desperately needs wins. They make a trade that
he was bitching about even though he forced the first trade,
and he still doesn't play. He's just posted out. And
you know, Arizona is only a hop, skip and a
jump on them privates, you know what I mean. That's
that's a quick turnaround. A lot of people was upset
that he was at the super Bowl, but I mean,
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he wasn't far away, you know, he wasn't He wasn't
that far away from the optics of not traveling with
the team, not playing, crowding yourself with an invisible crown
while you're being rained with booze. It does not it
just does not. It feels like this guy's not getting
great advice. I don't think this guy's gotten great advice
since he tried to act like he made up Taco
(30:43):
Tuesday or people talking in a barbershop. Uh, it's it's
it is confounding to follow this athlete. Great athlete, no doubt.
I'm sure he does some good works with people. In fact,
I know he does. But man, what a narcissist. Very
difficult to follow, and I do not like getting nailed
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by the king. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of
him just balding head laboring over the l a sports
media while we lay on our back waiting for him
to finish. And he's never gonna finish stamina, that's for sure.
I just I mean, I'm tired of it, Brady. I
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can imagine. I'm tired of the King of Rella Estate
taking advantage of me like that. Huh you like getting
from the king? Give it to me, your majesty. Yeah,
take it from the guy. How is your Valentine's Day?
That's getting nailed by the kidgarette though Valentine's Yeah, it
(31:51):
was all right. You know, it's such a big well.
I do have a confession to make. Last night, I
dug into my son when they went to bed, I
dug into his Valentine's and stole a giant Hershey bar.
And well, I would eating anything I was in there. Uh,
I mean no, I'm not chocolate dials or something stupid
like that. But I got the I got the Hershey bar,
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and then I put peanut butter on it and I
ate it really quickly. That's so funny. This this is
a peanut butter show. Yeah. Was it skippy or was
it talking about here Patros? Was it crunchy or was
it smooth? It's smooth. I think it's skippy. But it's
like the brown natural skippy of course, so it's better
(32:33):
for you. Yeah, it's good for you. It's like American
spirit cigarettes. They're good for you. You don't see the
Indian Chief. You see the Chief friend on the pack.
It's gotta be good natural, let's go cheap. You know.
People were upset about that, you know about the champion. Yes,
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there were a lot of don't know, Bill Plashky. There
were a lot of people up in arms about the music.
And people hate the chant. I remember the chat the
o G part The o g place for the chant
was was Florida State, right, it's still going, Oh yeah,
Dope Campbell and that in the Bobby Bowden days and
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there was a terrible hurricane in Florida. We we played
there anyway in Dope Campbell at USC bring a bunch
of mostly Southern California guys to the Panhandle at that time.
It was horrifying. And you know that guy throws that.
You know, they had Peter Warwick and and Chris Wanky
and yeah they were they were daunting. They had Lavernius
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who was who was the gold toothed linebacker because name
was green. There was younger but like Wadsworth jumped over
me in ninety seven when they came out to sc
But anyway, we're playing out there and you know, the
dude comes out the seminole, And I believe seminoles are
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like a race of a race of of a Native
Americans that are like an amalgamation of other tribes that
were moved into different places. But anyway, the guy's like
a seminole, a real dude, and he has the flaming
spear and he throws down right on the fifty and
they're doing the and it's not the it's when they
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all take a collective breath, like eighty thousand people although
and it's just it's they really just top yeah, and
we're just like Toad. That was my favorite in the
in the same in the same vein as Brady likes
to say, the blowtorch. You know, I think I turned
(34:47):
to one of our my teammates and said, we got
to get out of here. It sucks. The only guy
that showed up to play that game was Chris Clayboard.
He freaking played great. The rest of us, you know,
(35:12):
he might have been. Burt Reynolds was a running back
for Florida State, and I think when Reynolds, yeah, and
when he did that, I believe the fullback was literally
an alligator, like for real? Did Lee Corso played at
Florida State too? Yeah? And they weren't. I mean, they
were just fully in totally built by Bounden, you know,
(35:34):
because when they fell off, man, did they fall back yet?
Norvelle has got to go on a little bit. But
it doesn't exactly like it doesn't feel the same as
it did at ninety eight. Let's just put it like that.
He knew how to recruit Florida, Like that's the bottom line. Yeah,
and they would get guys from here. You know, they
wouldn't always pan out, but they would get guys from here.
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You know. Chris Ricks was a guy from here with
Abouten Tricks former Fox Sports radio host dude man, very
nice coach. Rix, Chris Ricks, Lorenzo Booker, the running back,
was a big time recruit from here. Uh he was.
He was something else and that was the place to go. Everybody,
like LaVar, everybody wanted to be. Yeah, they had the
(36:19):
uniforms going Florida's Flora Is You're really good at that, man,
I'm telling you. He was after. Yeah, he was after.
That's the first time I ever saw water. Burger was
at the floor. We were in Tallahassee and I was like,
what is that. They were like, that's the water they had.
Travis Minor during our time, he was the tabe Travis
(36:42):
was And when I was a kid, it was Ward
done Ruck Press And I remember watching that Thursday Night
game back right. He's a little older, but yeah, he
remember the Thursday Night and the Derrek Brooks. Of course,
you remember the a Night game where the Barbers from
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Virginia beat Florida State when Florida State was like number
one back and forth game and that was like when
Thursday night games were never played. I remember watching that
game and Peter Warwick and uh amp Lee mean they
had the amp Lee year that that they would have
(37:24):
had like tell us in or not tell us in
uh e G. Green I think would have been And
they had a lot of dudes. Osceola Osceola that's the
name of the Derrick Alexander with the flaming spear. Huh So, yeah,
we played at Florida State and they were doing the
chant too. But the chant at Florida State and the
(37:47):
chant at Atlanta and the chant at Kansas City really
upsets us, upset a lot of people. And we have
a columnist here in Los Angeles, like our number one
column this for decades, Bill Plashky, and he set him
on around the horn. And he is a friend, a
longtime friend and collaborator of ours. And Bill hates the chant.
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You know, Bill is a very bleeding hearted type of guy,
a real Catholic, you know, who goes to Mass every day.
And Bill who talks like this, it's racist. I can't believe,
you know, Like, so you know, if he's he's covering
the Dodgers and they're in Atlanta and playing in the
divisional series or what. I can't believe these racist people.
(38:31):
I can't, I can't, you know, And then they start
hating on him, and then uh it happens with uh,
well not so much the Chiefs, I guess when they
come to play the Chargers once a year or something.
But but yeah, he hates it and he always I can't,
I just can't they stop him. But it just feels
like the chant won't be stopped. They've been raining down
(38:52):
the chopping champ for decades now. Well, it doesn't think
like Mahomes and Andy really gonna be stopped at any
point in time soon, no, you know. And Andy Reid,
we've talked about his local ties and I'm just watching
the game and what sets him apart because there's so
many play callers and so many great play callers, but
there's just creativity in the red zone. There's something he
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always does in the red zone. There's a little wrinkle,
some attention to detail that wins. And it's pretty remarkable
that he's been able to do it this long and
relate this long to many different generations of players and
be beloved this long. And I think it's just the
play calling that sets him apart. And you know, look,
(39:36):
we all try to act like we saw everything coming.
But I did a bunch of my homes's games in college.
None of us saw my homes coming to like this.
None of us, I mean nobody except for Andy Reid,
and that alone he should get credit for. What do
you think about tweet? I mean, he tweet somebody sent
me a thing, and what did he what happened? He
(39:56):
kind of pushed out a Valentine's car that brad Berry
on their Yeah, I'll hold you when it matters most whatever.
You know, it's clever and that's the only reason why
I'm asking. But it's it was if you think about it,
it is clever. It's just I mean, not just that's
(40:17):
like the thing, you know, you tweet out a picture
of Freddie Freeman and you know, you know, and you write,
you know, I'm free to have sex with you today.
You know, I mean something stupid, you know, like that's
like you know that that's like the new thing like
all these yeah, well they're not doing the I'm free
to have sex with you? You know, it's a little
bit more they're not I mean, no, Brady, are we
(40:43):
sure petrols? They're a little less. They're a little more
benign and less pointed as the one Juju sent out. Yeah,
but I don't really care. But he did hold him
when it mattered the most. I mean he did, he did,
he held and when it mattered the most. We had
prera on. We we'd disgusted. It was creative, It was
very creative. And what he did, it just was I mean,
(41:05):
was it too soon? Was it was it poor time?
Or are people just being too freaking sensitive? I don't know.
I mean, do you think it Philly won the game
that they would be uh worried about Kansas City's feelings? No? No,
not Philly fans whatever. I mean, you know, and Jackson
Mahomes isn't worried about anybody's feelings or dancing around and
doing all that stuffing his long ass arms. Yeah, he
(41:27):
was getting it in. You know, it's just it's just fun.
How do you feel about Jackson Mahomes? Though? It's pretty
like what you think of I have a red blooded
America and I find him annoying. Is there anybody that
likes that? Guy I've I've never met anybody that likes it,
does anybody like it? I don't know him. Well, I
don't know him either, for God's sakes, lamar. But I
(41:50):
don't think any of us know him. I'm saying I
don't even know, Like I texted him like, hey, I'm
I went after you a little bit too. I'm saying
I don't even know. I don't even know his stack, like,
I don't. I don't know him. He's a TikTok dancer,
He's a knob. I don't see any of his stuff,
so I don't Well, I would say he's a knob
because he's kind of long. He's more like a javelin. Yeah,
(42:13):
probably to find what a knob is. I just kind
of a kind of a geek, you know, a tool.
I'm looking at him right now. He's a good looking kid. Oh,
he's very good. Look he's good. He's got sneaker game.
He's got some sneaker gag going on. What about him
doing a TikTok on Sean Taylor's logo in Washington. I
(42:34):
don't know how to feel about that. Don't be an instigator. Yeah,
that's what he did. It was this ignorance. That was
his darkest moment. I believe probably he really did. He
danced on Sean Taylor. He went over the partition and
danced on it because he probably didn't understand why there
was a partition, but thought it would be cool to
(42:56):
dance on that. I don't know if he apologized for
it or anything. I'm sure he had to as people
will be on site over that. Yes, people are still upset.
Obviously Jonas is is apoplectic. Uh, it's a It's a
very tough thing to to watch him succeed as his
brother succeeds, because you know, the guy that never says
anything wrong, He handles himself wonderfully. He's a great mate.
(43:20):
But then the brother. You almost root against Mahomes because
you don't want to see the brother. It's kind of
like Matt Stafford. A lot of people are annoyed with
his wife. And how do you feel about she trying
(43:41):
to come into l A and trying to do her
podcast and act like she was going to do the dude,
how's it going, Kelly? She breaks news? Oh yeah she does.
She broke the news that her husband was coming back.
They can break wide out of town in a couple
of years too. But I'll tell you what you know
where you can't find her on the low torch hell
(44:01):
a sports where you can find Petro's Getting rid of
Me Petros and Money Show. Petro Football analysts. Might see
you on Friday, Petros. Maybe, Yeah, we'd like to see
you out there. We have a big show in jonas
Is hometown. Thousand Oaks to rant Hill Brewing three o'clock
to seven, four hour remote and wrap your balls up.
(44:23):
Let's go get your balls in gear. McClain is gonna
be there. Mark Gubaza is gonna be there. Ye, Dave,
are the are the Jonas Docks? Are the money girls
going to be there? Matt's daughters like the show, money
girls like the show? Probably not never. I don't know
what that bid is. Did right, that's all right? Petros,
(44:46):
TikTok House, TikTok House out there, they might show up. Yeah, yeah,
we need that. Hey, pac Man, we'll see you Friday.
Bang All right, I'm a home girl, Danny. It is
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It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Areas, Brady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox Sports Radio. So Aaron Rodgers was on with
Pat McAfee with Darkness and the star of that show
a j Hawk, the brother in law Brady Quinn, and
(00:22):
he was talking about this report that came out that
he was supposed to go into his Darkness retreat on Monday.
It was a report from Ian Rapp Report, and so
Aaron Rodgers gave some thoughts on Ian Rapp Report and
Adam Schefter and also what the plan is when it
comes to sitting in the dark. I have no problem
that Rapport Schefter. I think they're really good their jobs.
(00:45):
When it comes to me, they don't know, they really don't.
They don't have people in my inner circle who are sources.
I can promise you that, and anybody who would talk
to them is not in my inner circle. It's that
simple that I'm not in my Darkness retreat yet. What, oh, yesterday? Nope,
this thing has been planned for about four months and
it was always the same date, always the end of
(01:08):
this week. So anybody would knowledge to the opposite of
that it's fake news. So let me just reiterate one
more time. There's an inner circle, right, and in my
inner circle, nobody talks to Ian Rappaport, to Adam Schefter
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or to any of those people. Okay, So if you're
one of those people who's talking to those people, it's
a great reminder for you you're not in the inner circle.
And if anybody else is out there saying stuff, or
if they're just making it up, which is also those
are both likely to stop with the fake news. So
there was Aaron Rodgers talking about his Darkness retreat. Can
(01:51):
I can I ask you this does the fake news
when someone says that, I feel like that's triggering for people? Yeah,
because they ink Trump and they think all the other things.
Don't you think republican when you say when you say that,
I mean not to make it political, but fake news
became like almost like a Republican saying yeah basically aired
out CNN and listen. As some evidence has shown, it's
(02:16):
a little bit fine around. But I guess my point
is is is like Aaron's very savvy, very calculated, like
he knows exactly what he's saying, why saying it, and
who he's saying that too. I mean even the second
part where he kind of reiterated it and said, anyone
who would be talking to them, you know, they're not
(02:37):
a part of my inner circle. So I do wonder
if there's a degree of someone maybe close to him
or in proximity to him, maybe said something to someone
and they just got out sted out of the circle.
They thought they're in the circle, but they're not in
the circle anymore. Like maybe that invite has now been
taken back. So the reason he does these interviews is
(02:58):
because he wants to be able gets paid. Well, oh
it does he really? Do you think that's for free?
Oh yeah, I thought it was. He's getting paid. Wow,
good for him. I don't know. Listen, I do stuff
for free Fox Sports Radio, That's what I do. I
do that for free. But when Aaron Rodgers, he wants
to be able to control the narrative. He wants to
be able to control what the messaging is. He you know,
(03:19):
he wants to be able to tell his side of
the store and get his messaging out. And the fact
that he was so hell bent on making it a
point that nobody knew when this retreat was going to happen,
and that it wasn't gonna happen on Monday leads me
to believe it absolutely was playing for Monday, and it
pissed him off that that stuff got out, and so
now he's pushed it back a week. I think they
were right. I think that bothered him and I think
(03:41):
that's why he had a red ass during the interview yesterday.
How's that that? That's very well put that in, you know.
I think it's interesting is he's making sure that he's
his own exclusive and I'm not mad at that. I'm
not mad at him for protecting that. I mean that
(04:02):
that means he can command a premium on whatever it
is that he's doing. I mean, really, he's important enough,
and he's polarizing enough and entertaining enough where people want
to know what looks like to wear his Woldo type
deal with with Aaron Rodgers. What's what's Aaron Rodgers? Aaron
Rodgers is not as as far out, I guess as
we would consider uh Kyrie Irving in basketball, but in
(04:26):
a lot of senses, he's kind of like the Kyrie
Irving of football. And also, in fairness to Rogers, there's
a lot of people that have run their mouth for
years about his family dynamic and all the other crap
that goes along with it, which is to me totally
out of line. Nobody has any idea what their time. Again,
I think he's working to become his own exclusive. So basically,
you have a handful of guys that break news before
(04:49):
the news hits and and and they are the ones
that have built up this reputation. They get the inside info,
they get it out there, boom boom boom. He doesn't
want that for himself. He doesn't want anyone but Aaron
Rodgers breaking that news. So he goes on his his
which is a tremendously large and successful platform with Pat
(05:12):
McAfee's show with A J. Hawk, the star of the show.
And and he makes it plain and clear that these
insiders do a great job. I'm not taking anything away
from the job that they do. They just don't know
what they're talking about. As it applies to me. You're
establishing the baseline of information that says there's plausible deniability
(05:36):
for for Aaron Rodgers and anything that that comes from them,
which means that if any point in time, somebody like
aid Uh Insider rapp report gets uh, you know some
type of trade trade rumor or something like that that's
about to happen. He's basically creating the amount of doubt
in people's minds where he might ultimately be able to
(05:59):
use that as as a tool of negotiation, where Okay,
you're not going to pressure me, or you're not going
to create this, or you're not going to create something
that he's not comfortable with because he's already discredit you're
basically reporting on me. You can't report on me and
it be accurate because no one that I know would
(06:21):
be talking to you to me, That's how I would
interpret it. Well, I guess I'd put it this way.
Not that even that anyone that knows Aaron. It's just
you know, Aaron wouldn't tell anyone that would talk to
those folks, right, Like that inner circle I think is
is that he would say anything to or even go
on this trip with, Like it's probably not a group
(06:41):
that's gonna have Adam Schefter or even wrap before on
speed dial. That's just my guess. Now, is he going
on this darkness or treat is this alone or are
people from his inner circle going? Is that the darkness
or treat. That's what I mean, that's what I've seen
being thrown out their darkness or treat darkness? And how
long is he end the dark or four days? That's man,
(07:02):
that's a long ass time to be in the darkness. Yes,
Now where do you go? Like is this like? Uh,
how does that work? Do you have? Do you have
a bit? Do you have blackout curtains? Like? Is your
squatty potty and the floor? Like what? Like? How does
that work? Jonas? Is the squatty potty? Can you even
see your squatty potty? Because it's dark, so a whole
(07:25):
darky do you see the whole? Thinking you're on your
squatt potty could be on something else completely And then
if you had to make that type of mistake, then
now you're smelling that you're sitting in that in the darkness,
you don't be able to see stink stink, stink is stinking.
How long is this his dark day retreat? Four? It's
(07:45):
four days. It's a four day retreat. So he does he?
I think he starts on Friday and then it goes
till Monday. I mean, I'll do it day. I found
a five day for a thousand hundred and seven dollars?
Did you really bucks for fire? You're looking at it
right now, give us the rundown. What's the rundown of it? Like?
What are the amenities? If you want a darkness to treat,
(08:07):
just go hang out with Lee. Oh I'm wreing. I'm
wondering why Bertoe hasn't hit the button yet? How was
this bad? What do you mean? What are you talking about?
Really strong? Right there? Bro that that was really strong
(08:28):
with what you just offended me? Right, but that name
is Tyrone. That offended My brother's name is Tyrone. I
can get away with it. He was living in the
dark to five days. What's the amenities? Like? What's the
package here? I can't be much two nights before and
two nights after in a private, private room with food included,
(08:53):
nine days total? How how all right? It's what food included?
How exactly are you able to get to the food
if you can't see it? I think that's after Yeah,
you're not allowed to eat, right, This is a cleansing,
That's what I'm looking at. It's not like completely and
it's not completely in the dark, so you get that. Actually,
(09:15):
candle candles are not candles is different. I could I
could do life. I could do my life. And candles
scented or unscented candle, Yeah, I could do that. I
burned my face with a candle once. Yeah. I drink
too many Long Islands and I used to. I used
(09:35):
to have a whole bunch of college when I was
in college. I used to have literally like almost like
some living on a prayer Madonna type video type stuff
like I used to have candles everywhere in my room,
like everywhere, like it relaxed me. I don't know, I
just felt relaxed. Candles are great. Yeah, they relaxed me
pretty much. And then one night I fell asleep faded.
(09:57):
I was faded from the Long Islands and I kN
one of them candles onto my pillow. Oh she and
my drunk ass was trying to blow the blow blow
the flame out. I was sitting there like and some
of the cotton flew out of and and this is crazy,
because I had to go do to Walter cap All
American Awards like literally that that weekend or whatever. So
(10:21):
I'm I'm at the Walter camp Awards with a big
as burnt face, like Crispy burnt face called me crunchy
black man. I was. I was burnt and in anyway
it worked out. But I used to always living candles
like I didn't even use lights. I used candles, like
throughout my house candles. You want a candle pro tip
when you when you go to buy a scented candle,
(10:43):
smell the inside of the lid, not the actual candle.
That's how it smells when it burned. About that about
that solving problems just in time there, well it wasn't
just in time, a little late some money. But but
I'm with you though, I'm going to do that from you?
Are you really going to do? Be sure to catch
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Radio and the I Heart Radio. So the Derek Car
era with the Oakland slash Las Vegas slash Los Angeles
and whatever other city they've called home is over. Derek
(11:28):
Carr is gone. He was officially released yesterday, and now
the big question becomes, the hell of the Raider is
going to do a quarterback? And where the hell is
Derek car gonna end up playing quarterback. And as we
talked about yesterday, the NFC South's got a couple of
potential teams out there, one of which, I mean the
fact that he already spent time with New Orleans that
would that would kind of give them the a little
(11:50):
bit of a head start here on this whole thing. Correct,
he already I mean, you spent a couple of days
in New Orleans touring the facility and all that. It
feels like like New Orleans would be the team you
would think would have the lead here Or am I
crazier now? No? I mean, and I think he should
be looking at that roster wanting to play there. That's
a talented roster. They've got a great defense, They've got
(12:11):
playmakers on offense when healthy, as solid offensive line. That
would be a place that would be a tremendous destination.
You're in a division that a team that was eight
nine last year one it so it feels a bit
wide open. I mean, you're either you're gonna be go
going at an Atlanta team that could could sign a
veteran right they could be in the mix for a
(12:32):
Jimmy g or whoever else you know, maybe even Derek
Carr for that matter. Um Or they could have Desmond
Ritter as their starter coming back, could potentially be another
draft pick this year. So kind of question marks there.
Carolina is probably drafting one if they're not in on
Derek Carr. So you start kind of looking around that division.
Tampa Bay, same thing. Maybe it's Jimmy g maybe it's not.
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If it's not Derek Carr, they might be drafting one
very wide open division to go in have success. That's
a talented roster. New Orleans. I think a lot of
those NFC South teams would make some sense for Derek
Carr if he's looking at going in and trying to
have some success right away. I mean Tampa is another
one and already kind of throw in there, Carolina. Let's
just start with, for me, the brilliance of how he
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handled the scenario. Instead of being in a situation where
you know, potentially it's all based upon how the trade
value fits and works out for the teams involved with
the trade, he not only gets what he's owed from
the scenario with with the Las Vegas Raiders, but now
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he can approach any team. There's there's nobody that's off
the table, and there's no situation that's off the table.
His his his opportunities are are basically limited to the
amount of teams that are interested in him. I mean,
he could actually approach team that might not even have
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an interest in a quarterback and still ask them, you know,
is there any interests There's no there's no rules or
regulations to what he had put to you that he
is a free agent. Put it to you that way,
and I think that that's pretty pretty awesome for him
to have a free opportunity for his his team to
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negotiate a landing space for him. So regardless of where
that is, there's not going to be well, the price
tag was too high based upon what they wanted back
in compensation um for Derek Carr. Derek Carr has the
opportunity and the ability to be able to do a
deal from scratch with the team that he goes to.
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And that's probably the best scenario that you can have
playing out. Being what He's the only one that that
of of note in terms of of high profile quarterbacks
that's openly on the market right now. So he has
his choice. He has it's big, it could be Atlanta,
it could be the Saints. It could be Tampa Bay,
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you know, hell, it could be Carolina, right, it could
be a couple of other teams, that could be New York.
He's got a whole division that absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And
then it feels like, what Jimmy Garoppolo's next in line?
He would be the guy after Derek Carr. They would
look at. But it's but Jimmy, I just don't Jimmy
Garoppolo isn't as attractive as a scenario as as Derek
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Carr in my opinion. He asked, well, I mean, it
just depends on his health. If his health is isn't
in question, then then there's the idea. I mean, you
gotta keep in mind he left the season again with
an injury, and that's always it's for what it's worth,
whether it's warranted or not. That's just the book that's
out on Jimmy Garoppolo is that he gets hurt. You know,
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Derek Carr doesn't have any of those those kind of
stigmas on him. There's no real stigmas on him other
than he's almost like uh a Matthew Stafford almost, I
mean almost would say it's comparable in some in some
regards because Matthew Stafford is one of those guys said, well,
was it the organization or was it him? And you?
Some would say it's probably a little bit of both,
but I don't. I don't think for what is worth
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Derek carr Is is probably the most attractive free agent,
I'll say, or quarterback available, maybe outside of what you
assume may happen with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, who else
would you put above him? Outside I mean Jimmy Garoppolo.
I don't put him above Derek carr do you put
I put him. I could put him in the same class,
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but not not above. I don't know. That's you gotta,
you gotta, I don't you know. For me, I think
that it's a safe pick, especially as a free agent.
I think that it's a it's a it's a win
situation for you as a team. Yeah. Look, I I
think just going back to the initial point, the you
probably won't see this done again. I can't imagine it
don't happen. I get at least, you know, putting in
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this this this particular date to have an option bonus
as well as a poor just have salary guaranteed. You know,
at that point because it basically sped up when free
agency starts, at least for one player. I don't imagine
you'll see many franchises and clubs doing this moving forward.
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It seemed to be a precedent that I guess only
Las Vegas was willing to make. But whatever the case is,
it does give Derek Carr a nice jump on the
rest of the free agents out there. So even if
you view Jimmy Garoppolo and Derek Carr as even car,
you know, Car still has the opportunity to kind of
basically figure this all out before the start of the
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new league, gear which there's you know, there's power and
meet able to have the freedom to do that. So
that's that's the first thing. Derek Carr's health. His production
is one thing. His health and and the fact that
he stayed relatively healthy and as compared to Jimmy Garoppolo.
I think it's the other reason why most people would
view Derek Carr as, you know, a step above Jimmy Garoppolo,
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because when Popolo has played, he's played well, and he's
for the most part been really successful. Granted playing on
a great team in San Francisco, but you know, you
can't take that away from Jimmy g But at the
same time, you feel like you need to have a
viable backup because you know, he's a guy that's gotten
banged up. Is that a hard time staying healthy and
and one of the most underrated attributes any player could have.
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But most importantly a quarterback is durability. You know, abilities
one thing, but but durability being able to be out
there every single Sunday is is something that's probably goes
underrated because you know, people don't you know, take that
and appreciate it. But at least you're giving your team
a chance to go out and have a shot of
winning with with you back there. So I think he's
gonna be the top rated free agent quarterback, although I'll
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be curious. I said that silier this week, like if
teams are interested in both you know, car but also
exploring like, hey, what would it cost to get Aaron Rodgers? Okay?
You know the difficulty there though, is he played Rogers
place for an NFC team and so you only get
some a f C suitors and which would make sense
for the Packers standpoint, and maybe even from Roger standpoint,
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where in the Raiders you play with Tavanta Adams or
the Jets. You've got a stack roster at o c
that you know and Nathaniel Hackett, and they've already openly
said they're willing to pay and do whatever. Well, if
there's any team that's willing to pay Aaron Rodgers sixty
million this year to be their quarterback, maybe it would
be Woody Johnson the Jets, you know, because he's got
that under contracts, so maybe they don't have to rework it.
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But you know, I would say Derek Carr, at least
among the free agent quarterbacks, is at the top of
the list. I can't believe that it ended up at
this point. With the Raiders. It was last March they
traded for Davante Adams, last April he signed his new extension.
And yet here he is February and he's looking around
the NFC South for jobs like it got like just
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like that, less than a year. It went from we're
gonna pair these guys up there, close friends, their college buddies,
this is going to be the future. He finally has
some help, finally has some weapons to work with, and
less than a year later he's gone released and now
looking for work in the NFC or somewhere else. I
just can't. I don't know how this ended up at
this point. I don't get it. I don't. I don't
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understand what appened with the Raiders. Josh mc daniels is
brought in. There was supposed to be some stability there
and it was going to be and it just and
which makes me wonder, was it always going to end
up at this point where they never believers in Derek Carr?
Because if that was the case, why did they give
him the extension last year? Like that's that I just wondered.
Did Josh McDaniels really buy into Derek Carr? Was that
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all just fluff to try and you know, see how
he would perform this year? And this was always the
plan they were going to move off like a scapegoat situation.
To me, I just can't, especially the all the crap
that he took or had to deal with over the
course of the whole John Gruten, you know, debacle. I
don't get it. And before Yeah, that's the tough part
is I would hope people can understand the fact that,
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like he's only trying to do his best and then
he gets that crap thrown on his plate and he
handles it with grace and handled it extremely well. And
yet on the way out there's really no thank you
for anything. And and look, I realized people only really
will will care if they win super Bowls. But the
reality is that team, and no point in time during
his career was ever built to help and win a
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Super Bowl. Defensively, they've been awful. Offensively, they haven't provided
him with what he needs. So the truth is, even
though he hasn't played always his best football, and I
think he's accountable for that. Sometimes, Um, you know, he
was Bowl Skills challenge. I'm just saying he was what
he said that I'd still be yeah, yeah, But I
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guess the just whole point is that that it came
down to this. But you know, look, you at a
new head coach, the general manager and they want to
go in a different direction. I'm kind of more curious
to see who they get because as we've talked about
the Rodgers trade there, it makes sense because he's gotta
familiar face in Adams, but that offense, it's not that
Aaron Rodgers can't to it. He's a really smart guy,
but it's just the whole, all the verbage and all
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that stuff is different. You know. I remember being in
Kansas City with Matt Castle and Brian Dable as R O. C.
And even just from the time that I had been
with Brian Dable like three years prior, he had changed
a lot of his terminology. Like some stuff was the same,
some stuff wasn't. It was probably like a third of
what I had just three three years prior with him.
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And some of the hard part was Matt had been
in New England with Brian and so some of the
New England terms he had changed. And I'll never forget
during the course of a game, like there was a
couple of things that I think Matt had kind of
mixed up out there in the field, and you know,
coming to the sidelines and talking about it, like it
can be one of the most frustrating things because in
the heat of the moment, you're always going to resort
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to your greatest form of training. And so obviously Matt
has spent so much time with New England that you know,
he had had that ingrained in his mind. And and
for this like to have to learn a new offense,
like there's little things like that that become difficult, Like,
I don't Roger's gonna want to do that going to
the Las Vegas fraders. I mean, I don't know those are.
It's always a bigger hurdle than people realize. I just
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wonder how much runway Josh McDaniel has. McDaniels has. Now,
like you've gotten you probably can scape goat zero. You
say zero, Burno, I mean, uh, listen, BeRTOS disgusted absolutely
discussed your escape goat was car? This year? Escape goat
his car? Car is gone? Who's your escape goat? And
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by the way, Mark Davis, Uh, he may or may
not have shaved his. So there's that. That's no more
Bucky Larson, he's gone up for you. The great Bolo
cut is gone. I mean that's speculation. Yeah, look at
this britty David Carr was saying that a car wasn't
allowed to change plays the Land of Scrimmages, that McDaniels
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do that with veteran quarterbacks, or there's some seeds who
will be restrictive like that. Like I remember being with
Brian that year and we had a look at one
of our running plays and I literally like looked back
over at him because obviously I can't like talk at
that point a lot of scrimmage, like saying this isn't
gonna work, Like this guy is a free runner off
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the edge, we have no mechanism to help protect him
from running down the running back from the back side,
and so random play handed off. The exact thing happened.
I talked about it that week in meetings, and so
I went over the sidelines, and I bet we kind
of got into it a little bit because I just said, like,
what do you want us to do? So those are
called carry runs, call and run it and and the
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problem with that is is some ocs, you know, they
want to have complete control and that's how they want
to operate things. And they think that just because it's
a bad look, it doesn't mean you can't block it
up or things won't work out in your favor after
the snap of the football, because there is some luck
to it, right, Like there's been some really bad play
goals that have worked out, some really good ones that
should have worked out that didn't. But there are times
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when you're gonna have play callers who don't want you
to change it. They don't care, you know, if it's
a usually the run game pass games a little different
because you can tweak the protections, routes things like that.
But in the run game, like, yeah, you'll get some
stuff where that O C is, especially if he's got
an ego he wants you to call and run it. Yeah,
it's uh sorry, Bernoh. That's why I think Aaron Rodgers
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not gonna play. He's not. He's not McDaniels not gonna
want Aaron Rodgers with the Raiders. I mean, I'm telling you, man,
that's tough. Like McDaniels has had a lot of success
as a play caller, and when you bring in a
guy like that who wants to be out there and
have his own ability to call whatever he wants, it's
something different. Like I remember when when the Broncos were
recruiting Peyton Manning to go to Denver and John Fox
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is the head coach. He basically said to Mike McCoy
and Adam Gates and those guys like, hey, if Peyton
comes into his offense, you know he's gonna run what
he's gonna run, like, we're all gonna learn that and
not trying to make him learn what we've been doing.
And that made it a lot easier for Peyton, and
I think, you know, obviously it got going. Two thousand
and twelve was a good season, thirteen was record breaking,
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you know, and they end up winning a Super Bowl
later on. But it was just it was it was
one of those deals where you see how some head
coaches and some play callers are you know, humble enough
to kind of understand that. And Mike McCoy play quarterback,
so he completely understood Payton Manning's perspective in wanting to
come over and do that. You know, Adam Gates had
been around a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of great
offensive minds like Mike Martz. He understood it too. I
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some noise for the old p Petro's papach is. He
is the cost of the Petros and Money Show. But
where can you hear that Petros and Money show? Brady?
What's that place called? You can actually find on the
bluetorch yeah five yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish I could say,
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right right in the nuts, yeah, LaVar, where's that station
at yah yeah five seven l a sports pet You
guys must be doing I don't know, but you guys
must be doing something right because I run into so
many people that are like I listen every week at
five in the morning. Honestly, I have no idea why
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all people are doing is listening for you guys to
say and then they're sitting here and like argue about
who's gonna say it or how it's gonna be said.
And after we do that for three minutes, I'm gonna
do with Dawn Martin impression maybe about most people don't
know who Don Martin is. Uh, and then we'll talk
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about Lebron. He is a finally dressed man. No, we're
not talking about Lebron today. Why would we because we're
getting constantly nailed by the king. Whoa did he start
read a new book and he's on the first page again?
Oh that you guys don't know about getting nailed by
the king. I don't want to get nailed. You kind
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of have to, though, Petro, if you have no choice
but to get nailed by the king because thetorch, do
you remember? Yeah, the blowtorch. Thank god on the doesn't
have the Laker contract like we did when I started
working at so I don't have to like what about
the bluetorch. I don't have to like flate the Lakers
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all the time like I used to when I started
working there, and it was Kobe, not Lebron, but Lebron.
You guys remember the movie American Beauty. Yeah, with the
King a real estate and she becomes enamored with the
King of real Estate because she was like a minor.
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Well that was the daughter I'm talking about, the mom
and that banning was attractive woman, and she she let
the King a real Estate, uh meet with her in
a motel and in the very famous scene, she's got
her legs up in the air and the King a
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real Estate is saying, you like getting nailed by the King? Yeah,
and that is basically us in Los Angeles. Yeah, We're
just getting nailed by the King every single day. I mean,
it's just he doesn't play. I mean, there was all
this great sense of urgency to break the record because
all his famous friends were there, and then just stopped playing. Uh,
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the team desperately needs wins. They make a trade that
he was bitching about even though he forced the first trade,
and he still doesn't play. He's just posted out. And
you know, Arizona is only a hop, skip and a
jump on them privates, you know what I mean. That's
that's a quick turnaround. A lot of people was upset
that he was at the super Bowl, but I mean,
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he wasn't far away, you know, he wasn't He wasn't
that far away from the optics of not traveling with
the team, not playing, crowding yourself with an invisible crown
while you're being rained with booze. It does not it
just does not. It feels like this guy's not getting
great advice. I don't think this guy's gotten great advice
since he tried to act like he made up Taco
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Tuesday or people talking in a barbershop. Uh, it's it's
it is confounding to follow this athlete. Great athlete, no doubt.
I'm sure he does some good works with people. In fact,
I know he does. But man, what a narcissist. Very
difficult to follow, and I do not like getting nailed
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by the king. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of
him just balding head laboring over the l a sports
media while we lay on our back waiting for him
to finish. And he's never gonna finish stamina, that's for sure.
I just I mean, I'm tired of it, Brady. I
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can imagine. I'm tired of the King of Rella Estate
taking advantage of me like that. Huh you like getting
from the king? Give it to me, your majesty. Yeah,
take it from the guy. How is your Valentine's Day?
That's getting nailed by the kidgarette though Valentine's Yeah, it
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was all right. You know, it's such a big well.
I do have a confession to make. Last night, I
dug into my son when they went to bed, I
dug into his Valentine's and stole a giant Hershey bar.
And well, I would eating anything I was in there. Uh,
I mean no, I'm not chocolate dials or something stupid
like that. But I got the I got the Hershey bar,
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and then I put peanut butter on it and I
ate it really quickly. That's so funny. This this is
a peanut butter show. Yeah. Was it skippy or was
it talking about here Patros? Was it crunchy or was
it smooth? It's smooth. I think it's skippy. But it's
like the brown natural skippy of course, so it's better
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for you. Yeah, it's good for you. It's like American
spirit cigarettes. They're good for you. You don't see the
Indian Chief. You see the Chief friend on the pack.
It's gotta be good natural, let's go cheap. You know.
People were upset about that, you know about the champion. Yes,
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there were a lot of don't know, Bill Plashky. There
were a lot of people up in arms about the music.
And people hate the chant. I remember the chat the
o G part The o g place for the chant
was was Florida State, right, it's still going, Oh yeah,
Dope Campbell and that in the Bobby Bowden days and
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there was a terrible hurricane in Florida. We we played
there anyway in Dope Campbell at USC bring a bunch
of mostly Southern California guys to the Panhandle at that time.
It was horrifying. And you know that guy throws that.
You know, they had Peter Warwick and and Chris Wanky
and yeah they were they were daunting. They had Lavernius
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who was who was the gold toothed linebacker because name
was green. There was younger but like Wadsworth jumped over
me in ninety seven when they came out to sc
But anyway, we're playing out there and you know, the
dude comes out the seminole, And I believe seminoles are
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like a race of a race of of a Native
Americans that are like an amalgamation of other tribes that
were moved into different places. But anyway, the guy's like
a seminole, a real dude, and he has the flaming
spear and he throws down right on the fifty and
they're doing the and it's not the it's when they
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all take a collective breath, like eighty thousand people although
and it's just it's they really just top yeah, and
we're just like Toad. That was my favorite in the
in the same in the same vein as Brady likes
to say, the blowtorch. You know, I think I turned
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to one of our my teammates and said, we got
to get out of here. It sucks. The only guy
that showed up to play that game was Chris Clayboard.
He freaking played great. The rest of us, you know,
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he might have been. Burt Reynolds was a running back
for Florida State, and I think when Reynolds, yeah, and
when he did that, I believe the fullback was literally
an alligator, like for real? Did Lee Corso played at
Florida State too? Yeah? And they weren't. I mean, they
were just fully in totally built by Bounden, you know,
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because when they fell off, man, did they fall back yet?
Norvelle has got to go on a little bit. But
it doesn't exactly like it doesn't feel the same as
it did at ninety eight. Let's just put it like that.
He knew how to recruit Florida, Like that's the bottom line. Yeah,
and they would get guys from here. You know, they
wouldn't always pan out, but they would get guys from here.
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You know. Chris Ricks was a guy from here with
Abouten Tricks former Fox Sports radio host dude man, very
nice coach. Rix, Chris Ricks, Lorenzo Booker, the running back,
was a big time recruit from here. Uh he was.
He was something else and that was the place to go. Everybody,
like LaVar, everybody wanted to be. Yeah, they had the
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uniforms going Florida's Flora Is You're really good at that, man,
I'm telling you. He was after. Yeah, he was after.
That's the first time I ever saw water. Burger was
at the floor. We were in Tallahassee and I was like,
what is that. They were like, that's the water they had.
Travis Minor during our time, he was the tabe Travis
(36:42):
was And when I was a kid, it was Ward
done Ruck Press And I remember watching that Thursday Night
game back right. He's a little older, but yeah, he
remember the Thursday Night and the Derrek Brooks. Of course,
you remember the a Night game where the Barbers from
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Virginia beat Florida State when Florida State was like number
one back and forth game and that was like when
Thursday night games were never played. I remember watching that
game and Peter Warwick and uh amp Lee mean they
had the amp Lee year that that they would have
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had like tell us in or not tell us in
uh e G. Green I think would have been And
they had a lot of dudes. Osceola Osceola that's the
name of the Derrick Alexander with the flaming spear. Huh So, yeah,
we played at Florida State and they were doing the
chant too. But the chant at Florida State and the
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chant at Atlanta and the chant at Kansas City really
upsets us, upset a lot of people. And we have
a columnist here in Los Angeles, like our number one
column this for decades, Bill Plashky, and he set him
on around the horn. And he is a friend, a
longtime friend and collaborator of ours. And Bill hates the chant.
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You know, Bill is a very bleeding hearted type of guy,
a real Catholic, you know, who goes to Mass every day.
And Bill who talks like this, it's racist. I can't believe,
you know, Like, so you know, if he's he's covering
the Dodgers and they're in Atlanta and playing in the
divisional series or what. I can't believe these racist people.
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I can't, I can't, you know, And then they start
hating on him, and then uh it happens with uh,
well not so much the Chiefs, I guess when they
come to play the Chargers once a year or something.
But but yeah, he hates it and he always I can't,
I just can't they stop him. But it just feels
like the chant won't be stopped. They've been raining down
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the chopping champ for decades now. Well, it doesn't think
like Mahomes and Andy really gonna be stopped at any
point in time soon, no, you know. And Andy Reid,
we've talked about his local ties and I'm just watching
the game and what sets him apart because there's so
many play callers and so many great play callers, but
there's just creativity in the red zone. There's something he
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always does in the red zone. There's a little wrinkle,
some attention to detail that wins. And it's pretty remarkable
that he's been able to do it this long and
relate this long to many different generations of players and
be beloved this long. And I think it's just the
play calling that sets him apart. And you know, look,
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we all try to act like we saw everything coming.
But I did a bunch of my homes's games in college.
None of us saw my homes coming to like this.
None of us, I mean nobody except for Andy Reid,
and that alone he should get credit for. What do
you think about tweet? I mean, he tweet somebody sent
me a thing, and what did he what happened? He
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kind of pushed out a Valentine's car that brad Berry
on their Yeah, I'll hold you when it matters most whatever.
You know, it's clever and that's the only reason why
I'm asking. But it's it was if you think about it,
it is clever. It's just I mean, not just that's
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like the thing, you know, you tweet out a picture
of Freddie Freeman and you know, you know, and you write,
you know, I'm free to have sex with you today.
You know, I mean something stupid, you know, like that's
like you know that that's like the new thing like
all these yeah, well they're not doing the I'm free
to have sex with you? You know, it's a little
bit more they're not I mean, no, Brady, are we
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sure petrols? They're a little less. They're a little more
benign and less pointed as the one Juju sent out. Yeah,
but I don't really care. But he did hold him
when it mattered the most. I mean he did, he did,
he held and when it mattered the most. We had
prera on. We we'd disgusted. It was creative, It was
very creative. And what he did, it just was I mean,
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was it too soon? Was it was it poor time?
Or are people just being too freaking sensitive? I don't know.
I mean, do you think it Philly won the game
that they would be uh worried about Kansas City's feelings? No? No,
not Philly fans whatever. I mean, you know, and Jackson
Mahomes isn't worried about anybody's feelings or dancing around and
doing all that stuffing his long ass arms. Yeah, he
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was getting it in. You know, it's just it's just fun.
How do you feel about Jackson Mahomes? Though? It's pretty
like what you think of I have a red blooded
America and I find him annoying. Is there anybody that
likes that? Guy I've I've never met anybody that likes it,
does anybody like it? I don't know him. Well, I
don't know him either, for God's sakes, lamar. But I
(41:50):
don't think any of us know him. I'm saying I
don't even know, Like I texted him like, hey, I'm
I went after you a little bit too. I'm saying
I don't even know. I don't even know his stack, like,
I don't. I don't know him. He's a TikTok dancer,
He's a knob. I don't see any of his stuff,
so I don't Well, I would say he's a knob
because he's kind of long. He's more like a javelin. Yeah,
(42:13):
probably to find what a knob is. I just kind
of a kind of a geek, you know, a tool.
I'm looking at him right now. He's a good looking kid. Oh,
he's very good. Look he's good. He's got sneaker game.
He's got some sneaker gag going on. What about him
doing a TikTok on Sean Taylor's logo in Washington. I
(42:34):
don't know how to feel about that. Don't be an instigator. Yeah,
that's what he did. It was this ignorance. That was
his darkest moment. I believe probably he really did. He
danced on Sean Taylor. He went over the partition and
danced on it because he probably didn't understand why there
was a partition, but thought it would be cool to
(42:56):
dance on that. I don't know if he apologized for
it or anything. I'm sure he had to as people
will be on site over that. Yes, people are still upset.
Obviously Jonas is is apoplectic. Uh, it's a It's a
very tough thing to to watch him succeed as his
brother succeeds, because you know, the guy that never says
anything wrong, He handles himself wonderfully. He's a great mate.
(43:20):
But then the brother. You almost root against Mahomes because
you don't want to see the brother. It's kind of
like Matt Stafford. A lot of people are annoyed with
his wife. And how do you feel about she trying
(43:41):
to come into l A and trying to do her
podcast and act like she was going to do the dude,
how's it going, Kelly? She breaks news? Oh yeah she does.
She broke the news that her husband was coming back.
They can break wide out of town in a couple
of years too. But I'll tell you what you know
where you can't find her on the low torch hell
(44:01):
a sports where you can find Petro's Getting rid of
Me Petros and Money Show. Petro Football analysts. Might see
you on Friday, Petros. Maybe, Yeah, we'd like to see
you out there. We have a big show in jonas
Is hometown. Thousand Oaks to rant Hill Brewing three o'clock
to seven, four hour remote and wrap your balls up.
(44:23):
Let's go get your balls in gear. McClain is gonna
be there. Mark Gubaza is gonna be there. Ye, Dave,
are the are the Jonas Docks? Are the money girls
going to be there? Matt's daughters like the show, money
girls like the show? Probably not never. I don't know
what that bid is. Did right, that's all right? Petros,
(44:46):
TikTok House, TikTok House out there, they might show up. Yeah, yeah,
we need that. Hey, pac Man, we'll see you Friday.
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