February 24, 2023 • 52 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and Aaron Rodgers has emerged from his darkness retreat. As of now, Kyle Trask is the starting QB for the Bucs and might be the best QB in the NFC South. And Russell Wilson reportedly asked the Seahawks to fire Pete Carroll and John Schneider before the team ultimately decided to trade him.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on Fox
Sports Radio. I will say this, we do have some
good news though. Okay, what's the good news. It's football Friday. Yeah, yeah, Friday. Yeah, yeah,
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it's all right, Friday. It is football Friday. Here, the
weather is is wow, yeah it is. Hey, it's leaves
forecast right there? Where did that come from to lead
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the lab forecast? What that is? Right there? All right?
So here's uh, here's what we need to start with,
because this is too good to pends up. We talked
yesterday as as the show was closing about Aaron Rodgers.
He emerged from the darkness, his darkness retreat at Sky
Cave or whatever it's called up in Oregon, and that
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was the details that came out, and then we got
further details on what exactly Aaron Rodgers has been up
to over the last several days. Now, I was not
aware that this was the type of training facility that
the elites in the National Football League go to. You
guys have always said Arizona is one of the great
spots because everything's there, A lot of elite facilities and
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places to really work on your game in the off season.
But apparently there's now somebody that's trying to make the
case for why they are the place to go to
if you want to work on your craft in the
off season. Let me just describe these specs for you,
and you tell me if you guys are interested. How's
a partially underground Hobbit like structure with three hundred square
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feet of space, devoid of light, with a queen bed
bathroom and a meditation like matt on the floor, fully
powered so at any point the light can be turned
on from inside the room. How's that? What's the square footage?
Three hundred feet three hundred score feet. So what's the
size of this room? That's like a hotel in Manhattan,
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isn't it without a view? Yeah? The same thing like closet. Yeah,
it's very tiny. You can go to New York and
get that. Yeah, they said Hobbit like. By the way,
in New York, it's probably like twenty five a month.
I'd have to say. I'd have to say the way,
there's a height limit for me if I was a
certain height and I was under that limit of of
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how tall I am maybe that might be interesting because
the moment I hear hobbit, I just think really small
and I'll get out. I'll panic. Panic. It's so weird
in a small, tight space. Like you know how people
like go to like uh you know, like do their
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like journeys and they go like to see like Jerusalem
and stuff like that. You gotta walk down them little
steps that go in and out of like the mountains
and stuff like that. I can't do that. No, I'll panic,
I'll panic. I would like two two two two two
two two Jonas Jonas, I'm stuck, Jonas, I'm a stuck.
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Can y'all grab me? Like no, h no, and I'm
I'm I'm being dead serious. I'll freak out. I'll freak out.
So this wouldn't I need some loop Berto Burt I
needs some loube. I need some loop right down Burto
right now, Burto, I needs some blue. Oh my gosh,
oh my gosh, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. I
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can't breathe. I can't breathe. I mean, if you've seen
the pictures online, it's kind of a cool little spot. Yeah, yeah,
it is, like there's like snow covering it, and then
you walk downstairs and they've got there's you know, like
a bathtub there there. It's not the total darkness that
we were led to believe. It was like there there
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is some stuff that and as they mentioned, I don't
want to go that far. But as they mentioned, you
can turn the lights on at any point in time.
So that is that is something that you are able
to do. It's a battle of willpower, though, you know.
But do you you know, I actually think that's more
of the part of the test, you know, right, I mean,
you've got the ability to right there in your room,
but do you actually do it? Yeah? Hello? Does that
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about come in here? Huh? What's you say? Who's that? Wait?
Was that a mouse? Now? So there's now is there?
There's there? No food? Also, like, what about is there
to give you the food? Right? Don't they bring the food?
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I think or whatever it is? Yeah, so it might
be like a like a four day four or five
day fast. No way, they give you food, water. They
give you food and water, I don't know, might even
give you some wine. Yeah, but if you really want
with that wine some of that wine. Yeah, but if
you really want some of that hippie juice to hit
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you hard. You want to do it on an empty stomach,
don't you. I don't know what hippie juice, but like
you know that like the toad venom or whatever he
like sucks off the ground. I think it might be
like VCR cleaner, the like snorted off. Oh no, like
like so old. No one gets that. Well, I mean,
to live in a three hundred square foot hobbit like
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hole is pretty old. I think as well too. I
mean this, this seems that's actually like mini units like
apartment units are actually becoming more of the fad. Now, well,
he probably did take a pound of that OUI down
there with it though? What is the Uhi? Who we?
And then you're not? And then now I will say this,
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Now that would have me relaxed, Like if I was
going down that mountain and going to no small spaces
of which y'all and and you know, I would be
more like, hey, guys, this is really narrow. You think
we can make it? You think we should try? Look
at my belly, man like, I don't think I'll make it.
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That would be how I'd handled it. Then, Yeah, it
would be less screaming. I'd just be yeah, oh yeah,
because it'd probably be the reason why I don't make it.
You know, you guys would be like slipping in and out,
hey where you have our Like I'll be sitting there like, yeah,
I don't think my belly's gonna allow me to make
it to where you guys are. I'll just see you
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back at the hotel. I mean, I'll go wait at
the van. I'll be at the van. It looks like
someplace it would be at the North Pole the way
it's presented online. If you look at some of the
pictures and some of the videos and the tour. I've
never been to the North Pole. I'm just saying, like,
if you watching all of these Christmas movies where the
elves live, like this is like one of the places
they said Hobbits, you know the Hobbit is right like
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Lord of the Rings Hobbit. It's just so weird. This
whole thing is so weird. You know what? This actually
made me think of twenty twenty three two Pros and
a Cup of Joe team building, Like we go away
to one of these spots for me building, I'm out,
I mean, come on, come out, come on, come on,
var who the whole show the whole show or just show.
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Maybe we stay at night. You know, I have a
team building. This is dangerous enough. This is dangerous enough
being with Lee and Burtoe's ass literally in this room
here with doors separating. Yeah, I feel like Eddie's there,
here's the responsible one. Keep Lee and I just don't
think that you could control their flagelence. Well, I'm more
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worried about Berto not watching porn. Probably be there with him.
That probably oment of bonding until until until he blue
hole though, you know, oh, come on, come on BEI
it's been a while. One of the guy said the word,
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I don't know it was, what word? The S word? No, No,
I don't think i've heard. No. Well, you you're off
of that Olawaska. That's all right, a little morning, that's
all right. It's uh, you didn't have your you know,
your performance enhancing video show. He started thinking about something
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with an S word in it that was in his mind. Yeah,
all right, that works, so a right there. But this
is uh, this is the latest on the Aaron Rode well. Also,
Tom Pella Sero spoke with Rich Eysen and he said
that the packers want Rogers back as long as as
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he's fully bought in. So I don't know what fully
bought in means another. So why is Bob again reporting
one thing and now Pellicero here's something different? Like what?
I don't get it because nobody's on the inner circle.
You know who is in the inner circle though, A
bunch of garden gnomes who was hanging out with for
four days about the little gnomes from Frozen. That's what
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I keep thinking. It's I thought us roll into that.
So I just keep thinking of those little stone people.
That's why I imagine when I saw that hut, I
was like, Oh, they must live there, the stone people
that Disney World. So so where does this rank as
far as weirdest places you guys? What's the weirdest place
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you guys have ever been? What's the weirdest space you
have ever been in? Like weird? Like this is weird?
Oh God, I don't think she's listening. Um, I was
gonna say, uh goodness, I would go I would say
weirdest place. So many different places with that statement you made,
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but go it. Oh. I stayed at a hotel at
a motel near the Charleston Airport in South Carolina when
I first got out there that I don't think I
slept at all because I was too busy worried about
either who was breaking in and who was taken whatever
it was out of my car that was in the
parking lot. It was it was sketchy, it was dirty,
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the I could you could hear everything. It was like
one of those motels that still had a sign up
that said free HBO after eight pm. Like it was
bad like that. That was probably the worst worst decision
I made of amongst many bad decisions I've made as
far as places to stay, Yeah, I'll put that right
at the top of the list. We went on a
mission trip in the Dominican one time, and the initial
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hotel we stayed out, Yeah, it was like a hostel
and that was fine, Like, like the accommodations weren't great,
but I kind of knew that going into it. Well,
for some reason, the group wanted to move hotels to
some of their spot but they couldn't. Really. Basically, one woman,
I'm not gonna say who it was, messed up the
entire thing, like through a fit. We're out of the hostel.
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Now we have nowhere to go, so they have to
find like this hotel kind of in the middle of nowhere,
So like pulling up to it, it didn't look that bad,
and then you started to realize upon check in what
exactly it was. Considering you get a packet of a
couple of condoms and some lubricant. And when I when
I literally went into my room, it's all it's just mirrors, ceilings, mirrors,
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all the walls, arms, and there's neon lights, all this
stuff in the next room. I don't know. All I
know is my my sister and brother in law pulled
up to theirs and like literally two people ran out,
like two people were that that room was in use
and so they had to get a different room. But
like it was, I didn't sleep at all. There was
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like ants in this in the room and all this stuff.
It was very unclept unclean. I like took some of
the towels like laid them down just lit on top
of them. I was. It was one of the grossest,
most uncomfortable places I've ever I don't think I slept
more in three Yeah. Yeah, So upon further review, the
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hobbit like structure didn't sound all that would be way
more comfortable. Yeah, I would agree. I think when I
was fourteen years old, I went to I went to
Europe to play basketball, and we stayed at host homes
in um In Germany, Strasburg, Germany. And the way the
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home was configured, it was almost like an indoor outdoor home.
So it's like you're you're walking outdoors. You're indoors, but
you're walking outdoors to get to where you're going to
the restroom or where you showered, stuff like that. It
was like vegetation every ware hardware store. You go out
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to the lawn and garden area. You know, you leave
the actual story. You go out and you got lawn
and garden. But it was like an older home, like
an older structure, and it just it weirded me out
really bad, really badly, like almost like it's something wild,
like almost like you're exposed to the only thing that's
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really keeping you away from outdoors. Which this sounds really
weird because the way you know, I mean, a door
separates you from outside when you're in a home, right,
but not your bedroom door. I guess that's what makes
it legitimate. Right when you go to your home where
you're gonna stay, you go inside, your front door is
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your this separates me from everything else that shouldn't be
your bedroom door, you know what I mean? Does that
make sense? So it was kind of like the minute
I opened my bedroom door to get to the other rooms,
you had to go through another door to get to
like where they sat down to eat. Like and I'm
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telling you this was like a traditional German family. Like
I was eating chocolate or whatever. It is, like how
you're putting the tell on, like they were getting like
like bread, Like they went and got the bread. You
nice soft pretzel. It was not a pretzel. It was
like a baguette type of deal or whatever. It was
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like they went like got on their bicycle, went and
got it right, had chocolate boom, put the bread together,
all this stuff. Anyway, to get to where I was
eating with my host family, I had to go out
of my door, which put me outside. I'm outside and
it's cold, super cold. Walk down the steps. Turn hair,
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there's a bedroom there. They got a bedroom, right hair,
there's your bathroom right there, and then here's where they eat.
And then you go through that door and you sit
down and you eat, and it's like you're exposed to outside.
I guess it should have been considered cool, like this
is like a cool last structure, but it sounds fun.
It freaked me out. It freaked me out. I was
freaked out, like I was kind of and I think
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we I think I was there, if I recalled correctly,
it was it was multiple days. It's like two or
three days because we were in a basketball camp. It
was an Adidas camp. Yeah, but you probably fit right
in with the rest of the community. I certainly stood out,
so did my teammates. What does that mean, Well, we
were black in Germany. I mean there's no black people
in German, you know. You know Kanye and uh jay
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Z did a song on it. Uh you know what
I mean? What was it called. You're trying to tell
me they were in another part of of of Europe.
You're trying to tell me no member, Yeah, trying to
tell me no member Ramstein was black. One. Well, the
only person who references ramstele one. It's like one of
the great German techno metal bands of all time. What
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are you talking about? Trying to put people up on
a little bit of game. Yeah, yeah, but I didn't
feel uncomfortable being a black man in a German family,
a traditional German family's house. And there's so many different
ways we could have took that one. There's so many
different ways that could go and I don't I don't
ever want to get canceled or you know, end up
like Kyrie or anybody like that. There are so many
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different directions you could go in. But what I will
say is very nice people, very accommodating. It was. It
was a beautiful thing. They're big basketball fans, um, it
had a great time. Nothing to do with that, just
just more so. It was just I had never been
in a structure where like you had to grab like
a handle that came out of the ceiling that's how
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you flushed the toilet like it was. It was. I
don't even want to say it was primitive, because it wasn't.
I don't think it was primitive. It was just different.
It was just the configuration. And I don't know if
that was normal or or not, but it definitely was
a little like like, I don't know, I was like
kind of like, you know, concerned. I mean, if you
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want to be fourteen years old, of course, but you know,
I mean you want to upgrade. There's a three hundred
square foot hobbit like structure up in Oregon. You can
check out Yes ticket your fancy it is two Pros
dressed like a hobbit when you do this, who knows?
I mean maybe gross hair out again, who knows. Be
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Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas
Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So there's a
situation at quarterback going on in the NFC South. You
know that division that was I think maybe the worst
division in all of football. But we're going to find
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out who picked the winners from that division coming up here.
As we look back on our season picks, and there
were some bad ones. I've already gotten a glimpses to
some of my picks from before the year. So we're
gonna get to that later on this hour. But Jeff Darlington,
Brady's drinking Buddy on St. Patty's Day every year of ESPN.
He says that Kyle Trask is likely to be the
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starting quarterback Week one of the season for the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, and that GM Jason Lte believes he's the
best quarterback in the division. And so the current quarterbacks
in the NFC South right now, LeVar your guy, Matt,
Matt Corral, Jacob Eason, Desmond Ritter, Marcus Mariota, Logan Woodside,
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Jameis Winston, Jake Luton, and then Taysom Hill. So that
is the list of quarterbacks. And that is why the
GM for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers feels like Kyle Trask
is the best of the bunch. What about outside of
the South? I'm just saying right now, these are these
are guys that are under contract. What I'm saying is is,
if you're basing what the success of your team is
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going to be during the season, if the list of
quarterbacks are that poor, what are you basing your comparison
off of the list of poor quarterbacks? You know what
I mean? Like, Okay, so you have the best quarterback
in the NFC South, but what about the rest of
the NFC? Well, yeah, I don't. You want to have
a quarterback that can help you compete against the teams
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that don't have a quarterback that's either unproven or just
not considered to be an elite quarterback. But he just
retired so they're they're looking around going and they're the
way their salary cap is at there, I think they're
way over the cap right now. I think they're so.
I don't know what their options are as far as
a quarterback goes. But nonetheless, it looks like it's going
to be Kyle Trask and Tampa Bay to take over
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for Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. So this is Top
Bowls's last year as the hit coach. Oh, come on
a little face. I was asking a question. I wasn't
making a statement. It was a question. Y'all's response answered
my question, So we can move off. Y'all's response was
the answer the good They should feel good about Trask
they draft in the second round, Yes, and I mean
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did they train take him. It's kind of irrelevant it's
where they took him. But if they take him the
second round, you'd think that they feel good enough to
take him there. I mean, bottom line is, eventually he
was gonna get a shot to be the guy. So
this is that opportunity now for him. But so is
this the Top Bowls is last year? If it don't
work out, yeah, probably, I mean I said it to
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you guys before I think there's some teams setting up
to get killable Williams and Drake may I just I
think that's what teams are setting up to do. There
are two of the better prospects we've seen in quite
some time, and I think that's what some of these
teams can be setting up for. It sounds awful, but
I'm telling you right now, that's if you're looking across
the league, and if you don't have a Patrick Mahomes,
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if you don't have a Joe Burrow, if you don't
have a Josh Allen, probably a Justin Herbert falls in
that category, you don't get a shot. That's just the
truth of the matter. Jaylor Hurts, you know, I think
it's developed into that. Although you know that roster, they've
got a ton of free agents, you know, two on
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the offensive line, two on the defensive line, a couple
of players in the secondary, Edwards at linebacker, you know,
Sanders at running back, They've got They've got a Pascal
at wide receiver. They've got a number of guys who
are going to be free agents, and Hurts has to
be extended, so you know they're gonna they're gonna fall
into that category. Of how does Howie Roseman build that
roster around Hurts on his second deal because he's gonna
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get paid. And then we'll see how Hurts is able
to manage all of that, because we've seen Malmes now
for years on his rookie deal and not his rookie
deal be able to manage the whole thing. You know,
the Bengals are about ready to experience that with Burrow.
So what happens with t Higgins? You know that can
they afford to keep more? Is he gonna be traded off?
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You know, there's just there's all those scenarios and how
you're able to do it. And I know a bunch
of people think that you can't pay your quarterback still
win super Bowls. No you can. No one said you
can't do that. But your quarterback's got to be special.
He's got to be the type of guy that can
elevate the level of everyone else side around them. Now,
look in regards to the Bucks, maybe they feel like
Kyle Trask has the ability to do some of that.
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We'll have to wait and see, but I think more
often than not they look at guys like Kittle Williams
and Drake May in college right now and they go
that's who I'd like to set myself up to be
able to go get in the twenty twenty four draft
because they look like that those types of players. The
NFC South is the NFC East of this year, coming up,
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of the season coming up, You're really coming hard at
the NFC South today. I'm just saying the NFC East
was supposed to be considered to be the poorest of
divisions coming into this season, and they actually exceeded expectations.
Right you had the Eagles play in the Super Bowl,
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they played well, the Giants research or re emergence as
as a good team. Washington closed out the season pretty
pretty strong, and you had Dallas that that made it
into the playoffs. So you know, there's the opportunity, there's
the chance that they could, you know, exceed expectations as
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it applies to you know, what the season looks like.
But today today I'm I'm not I'm not high on
the South. They're they're the new to me. I'm projecting
them to be the division that you say is like
the poors division, Like that's the poor division. Well, with
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Tom Brady, the division winner won eight games last year,
so that ought to tell you. And they were an
underdog at home against the Cowboys in a playoff game
and that game got trash. Yeah, and that game wasn't
even close. So I just what happened to Jameis Winston.
I thought Jameis Winston and New Orleans was going to
be the perfect setup. And then the weird stuff that
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was happening last year where Andy Dalton through like three
or four picks against Arizona and still got to keep
his job, and they just rolled with that for the
remainder of the year, and it felt like Taysom Hill
was getting more love at the end of the year.
I know Jameis Winston was dealing with some injuries, but
I thought Jameis Winston in New Orleans was was a
movie I was gonna pay off thinking the same thing.
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What happened to Jameis Winston? Is it because he does
weird offseason workouts. He's not in a hobbit hole like
Aaron Rodgers, and so now he just loses an opportunity
to play again. Its terrible. Maybe because he's in the
cannibalism I mean, didn't try to eat his on hand.
He deal a weird It was a dug his point.
It was a W good point. It was it was
a flesh w. Yeah, and yeah, I just that that
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weird to me out in so many different ways. Yeah,
the little little dahmer going on, there's really going to
do this? It is he really gonnaff you? I mean
he was enjoying it. If you had a teammate do
that in a huddle, would you ever look at him
the same? Again, if he was trying to get you
fired up. If he would have broke out a bottle
of hot sauce, I would have been through like that's like, yeah,
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hot sauce. W. Would you've asked for a trade immediately after?
I would have. I would have wondered, or is your
mental stability okay? Like are we good? You're you're trying
to eat a W like you you literally ate your W?
I mean, is it worse than stealing crabs from a publix?
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Because he did that. I mean he explained that story before,
by the way, which you know, it wasn't as it
wasn't like I kind of feel like it was like,
who thought it was more of a hookup? It was
That's what it was. It wasn't like he went in there.
I was like, all right, I'm trying to sneak him out,
like he had a guy who was hooking him up
and that got caught. He's got a crab deal and
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that happens. That happens at Florida State. I mean, some
guy's got a crab deal coming out of Vegas. It
just depends on what kind of crab do you. Some
people get crab deals no matter where you live. That's
I don't know how you're roll it be Chocolate City.
It's true. That is true. I didn't think about that part.
That's that's a great point again. You guys are on
it today. Man, want them crabs? No, yeah, m m yeah,
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tough to cook. You don't want any of them crabs
in fact? Yeah yeah, so big the lee you if
they're If they're that big, you're in trouble. Yeah, that's
all I'll say. In trouble. Get what you're saying for sure.
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That makes all the sense in the world. Man. All right,
So that is that's an update on the quarterback situation
in the NFC. So well, I mean, like what else?
What else? It's shaping up to be the worst division?
Hold on, let me let me throw this out there.
But the Bucks won on last year eight and nine. Yes,
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just if you guys think that like anyone's gonna finish
better than that this year based on what they have
to one in the season, not based off of what
we're looking at. Eight eight is is pretty What is that?
That's ambitious? I think Carolina is going to win the division. Yeah,
I'm with you on that. That's my early pick. Whatever
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it is. I think Carolina's got talent there. And if
they do land a quarterback in the draft, if that's
the direction they want to go, or they who knows,
go free agency or land one of these veterans that
feels like a team that you look at and go,
they could make a jump. No offense to Matt rule
and what happened last year, but they did they were
in contention. They would of Frank Reich and a young
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quarterback too. He's done it before. He had wentz young
some of his best time there. Um. I just I
feel like he's got experience doing that and I think
if they draft one, they play one right away, that
could work, unless it ends up being a veteran. I'm
just I'm not sure who that venter would be. And
as I said before, they've gone that route. If I'm
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David Tepper, I'm like, man, I'm not sure I want
to do this again. I'd rather just go with a
young guy. We dropped in the top ten investing that guy.
And by the way, Frank Reich went that route in
Indianapolis and got burned. I just think Atlanta is a
Atlanta is a to me, their intriguing team. That's an
intriguing team because they were competitive. They were competitive with
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Mariota at quarterback and and I think Pitts went out
I think he got hurt or something to that effect
this year. I mean, they have some real tools to
be able to win. They show that they can be
a very competitive football team. I think that's the most
intriguing team to look at out depending on who they
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have at quarterback. But I like Atlanta, I don't. I
think they did my guy, Calvin Ridley a little dirty personally.
But you know, guy can't place a parlay or two
for fifteen hundred dollars and then you're just gonna like
send him off to Jacksonville like that. And what will
Tampa Bay's defense look like? I mean, how's the you know,
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what's the retention there, who's coming back, who's leaving. I
think that will play a major party. They kind of
let them down, not not kind of they they they
let their team down this year. They were supposed to
be a better defense than what they showed this year,
especially in that playoff game. They just did not look
like the defense that that helped lead them to all
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the success that they had when Tom Brady got there.
You know, you mentioned Atlanta one of the stories that's
been thrown out there, and again this could all just
be garbage, but this is one of the things that
has been thrown out as a possibility that, uh, you know,
maybe Atlanta calls the Bears and says, how much do
you really like Justin Fields? And maybe they make a
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move and the Bears go ahead and take Bryce Young
at number one. One of the one of the ideas
that's been thrown out there if you want to fix
that quarter back position in Atlantic, because they're sitting at nine,
so are sitting at eight rather so I don't know
who's going to be sitting there for them if they
don't believe in Desmond Ritter, but you could upgrade the
position and grab Justin Field, who is from Georgia if
I'm not mistaken from from the area, So a little
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bit of a homecoming there. Why does everyone, though, always
make it about where the players from. It's important, is it? Yeah?
Hell yeah? Come on? Why is that important? Okay? Like,
why do you and I connect because we're both from Ohio?
Mich LaVar? Like what it like? All this stuff makes sense?
You know. Here's the thing is, On a real note,
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there's probably some people that take a letsit a bit
offense to that because you're definitely not from Ohio are
you talking about I mean, it's like no different than
if he claims from pas from I am not there too,
the big thirty three that was named after me. Nobody
responds to you, though, what are you talking about? Nobody?
If you were there, no one would respond to you.
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I think it's humorous. There's someone out there right now
who would would kick your ass trying to claim this.
Well before they kick my ass and can kiss my ass.
Can be from wherever I want to be from. So
if I want to be from Dublin or from the Burg,
I can do both. I've been to Dublin, all right,
well from's been You've been there one time? One was announced.
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I showed Q how how people are in those situations,
Like you know, when we were at Penn State and
we were doing a big dune show, I showed I mean,
there was a demonstration of it's different when you know
when somebody that isn't from there, they know we know. Yeah.
Rob Stone was trying to get the crowd pumped up.
It was funny and show them what it really meant.
That's right. Rob was like we are. They were like
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we are. They're looking at Rob like a You're not
what they say we are? Rob think he was doing
an MLSAM or something. One more time. How did you
rit Rob South? It was like we are, Hey guys,
we are tend It turned into a question like a
real It wasn't a chance, it turned into a real
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question like we we are? Are we? Then you took
it from there. Well, I just had to help help out.
You know, it hits differently when when you're from where
you say you're from, or if you're part of the
mob that you're part of, we just you know, you
recognize one another, just like when even in the midst
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of a hostile environment, you know, urban throughout the oh
and there were enough people there where it resonated. They
finished it off. You're not from Ohio, You're not from
Pittsburgh or paw Just accept it, man, it's okay. That's
the problem is if you ever made it out a
big noon, they'd be able to sniff out the fact
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that you're not one of them. Well, especially in the Midwest.
I would prepare for the occasion, so I would you
would You would be dressed how you normally dress a church,
stick out like a sore throat. It's not true. I
would love to hear you scream we are okay at
a Penn State gay. I would love to hear it.
I mean, I would show up. First of all, I
would go on the gas immediately after whatever. If we decide,
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all right, we're gonna bring you out to big newon
kickoff like whatever I could possibly get my hands on,
I'd go on the gas and I would be torn
up from the floor up. And I would show up.
I mean, because if I'm going to Ohio, here here
would be the movie. That's how you dress in Ohio. Dockers,
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ferry boat shoes up and aloss up. Why is that
messed up? Maybe I'm made up? Maybe a Hollister coat.
You know, depending on what the weather's like. Who are
you coming at right now? Are you going after to
meet with I'm not going after it now. I know
you're going out now. They know they dressed with class,
all right, that is that wasn't classy what you just said. No,
I'm just saying that I want to. They wouldn't even
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swing at you. They'd slap you. I'm like, you just
get slapped. But that's how disrespectful would be. This is
just I don't think violence is the answer. But again,
I grew up in Pittsburgh, so maybe you guys do.
Now you're gonna switched up. I'm a whore. I'll go
from Ohio to Pittsburgh. You're gonna get that horse slap
right on back to where you came from. The Pittsburgh yo. Ass.
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This is a report that just dropped via The Athletic
that before the Seahawks traded Russell Wilson to the Broncos,
that Russell Wilson requested that the team fire head coach
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Pete Carroll and general manager John Snyder, and the bullet
points on this are as such that Russell Wilson was
convinced that both the head coach and GM of the
Seahawks were getting in the way of his quest to
win additional Super Bowls and individual awards. According to league
sources who spoke to the Athletic, and that the quarterback
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preferred a replacement that guy would be Sean Payton, who
recently who right before that, had stepped down from New Orleans.
So Russell Wilson wanted to work he does, and then
Russell Wilson placed his request to fire the coach and
GM in February of twenty twenty two. Within days of
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the call, top team officials met and decided to pursue
trading the nine time pro bowler and Sean Payton and
Russell Wilson, as you mentioned, are back reunited in Denver.
But now when you look back on how excited Pete
Carroll was to beat Russell Wilson week one, all the
former teammates that came back, how Pete never missed an
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opportunity to take a little bit of a dig at
Russell Wilson this past season. If these reports are true,
now it kind of makes some sense why there was
sort of the animosity that Pete Carroll carried towards Russell
Wilson even after he was gone. According to the Athletic,
how about it, it's a lot a little bit of
spice on a Friday. It hurts me to hear that.
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And the reason why I say this is you know,
I spent half a year there right basically sort of
the offseason to the last cuts in twenty thirteen. Everything
I witnessed during my time there from March until the
end of August that seemed was special, the culture of special,
everything that John Schneider and Pete Carroll had built with
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special and Russell was not the type of player to
make that sort of demand. Now. Granted this is before
you know, they won the Super Bowl, because they won
it that year, made it to back to back, and
he came more in to start him. But it's sad
to hear that because, you know, the conversation that I
had after working out with them and when they invited
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me up and I sat down with John Schneider and
talked about, you know, why they wanted to bring me in.
It really was talking about Russell and he said, you know,
we really feel like we have lightning in a bottle.
We feel like this young man is, you know, everything
that we were hoping for. You know, he's not the
biggest guy, but he checks off every other box. We
feel like we can win a super Bowl with him.
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And he said, we need, you know, a good veteran
presence around him to continue to help him grow, help
him learn how to break down film and prepare and
studying all those things. And Russell was the type that
was very very mature, even though he was going into
a second year in the league. And so you know,
I kind of took it on upon myself to try to,
you know, have that sort of impact on him during
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my time there in Seattle with him. But he really
just came off as a very humble, hard working guy
who was just trying to kind of fit in this
locker room filled with alpha's. I mean, and I mean
alpha's like you talk about guys like a Richard Sherman
for example, you know, Cliff Avril, who were older guys,
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um who led from the defensive side of the ball.
Chris Clemens, you know, coming off the Red Bryant, you know,
I mean, biggest dude in the locker room. You know,
you talk about some of the alpha's that you had
that were really led that from the defensive side of
the ball. You know, that was a place where you know,
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at times when you go out there and compete, man,
you were just trying to survive, like you couldn't have
an off day. That team was so loaded and so
act that like every single drill was always competitive because
every single guy on that roster. If you didn't make
Seattle's roster, you made another roster. That's how competitive it was.
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I mean I remember even like it just in preseason games,
beating the life out of teams, like it wasn't even close,
just because of how talented and deep that roster was
coming into training camp, like I'd never I'd never been
a part of a roster where you looked and you're like,
every single one of these dudes is going to be
on a roster somewhere, like there's none of them, none
of them like this. This is not the end for
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any of these players. And that's so my point is
just it was such a unique culture of competitiveness that
John Schneider and Pete Carroll had built. You know, Russell
was such a m just a very like pleasure to
be around, as far as how he had conducted his business,
how he handled himself, you know, being very mature for
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a guy who's like early on in his career, had
taken a team to the playoffs in his first year
as a rookie, and some of the stuff he was doing.
And so it's it's sad to see what happens, you know,
and maybe it's it's from a you know, success, and
maybe it's ego driven and however you want to look
at it. But you know, when you start to hear
the truth of the matter afterwards, it makes a lot
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of sense for why Pete Carroll, you know, said and
did some of the things he did. I mean, can
you imagine a player, you know, guys coming in and
asking you to be fired, you know, behind your back,
not knowing it. I mean, maybe it's one thing if
for us just said it straight to his face, but
it sounded like he was going to trying to go
behind their back to make this stuff happen. And you know,
I think this past year was a big win for
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Pete Carroll and John Snyder, you know, first off, because
I think John Snyder had the best draft class of anyone.
If you look at the amount of rookies they had
that impact their team too, offensive lineman, a running back
in Kenneth Walker, Um, their their cornerback Terrek Wohlan, who
was phenomenal this year. They had a number of players
actually on defense. But if you really break down which
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you know, which team's rookie draft picks had a big impact.
You know, Casey is up there, but Seattle's right there too,
And and I would I find it hard to believe
that Pete Carroll was looking at the teams and John
sid was looking at this team saying we're not trying
to win a Super Bowl every year, Like that's just
not how Pete's driven. Like from my time being on,
Pete didn't matter what we were doing. It could have
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been tidally, winks, horseshoes, whatever it was. He was trying
to win like that. That's just a competitive guy. So
it's sad to see that that relationship fracture because I
know in the beginning they really really really felt he
was special because those are the conversations that I had
that Russell wasn't in the room, and that was what
was being told to me. So it's sad to see
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it it got to that part at that point. So
it goes on to say in this article from The
Athletic that a lawyer for Russell Wilson wrote a letter
to the Athletic, and he characterized the assertion that Wilson
called for Carroll's and Schneider's firing as quote, entirely fabricated.
The Seahawks declined to comment for the story, so it
went on just to discuss his first year in Denver.
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They talked to more than fifteen Broncos players, coaches, and
staffers about the season, and the way that it was
painted was what a lot of people assume that you
had a quarterback who got way too much power, and
you had a head coach that was way too accommodating,
and it just spun out of control, and it spun
out of control fast. Russ. It strikes me as he's
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the type of guy that always felt like him being
an overachiever would lead to him being to where he
ended up in life. And sometimes that driving factor, that
fuel that motivator can lead you down some dangerous, dangerous paths.
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I know, for me, I probably I can say I'm
not probably. I honestly have experienced what fame, fortune, and
and notoriety can bring your way. You know, I dated celebrities.
I had you know, clout and conversations and and and
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situations where I could dictate things based off of what
my accomplishments had had created. I ended up being on
you know, being around you know, celebrities and being on
sets and stuff like that. I mean, you're talking about
a dude that was in you know, the movie of
Entourage and stuff like that and then ends up marrying
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a you know, a performer, a celebrity. I just think
that when you look at all of the things from
a surface level, because I do not know the the
the guy. I don't know him at all, and I
don't want to like unjustly characterize him, but from from
an outsider's perspect act who has experienced a lot of
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the things that he has experienced, and not as a quarterback,
but I've experienced it. I just think that his success
got the best of him, and I think that you
saw the ultimate sum of some of that success getting
the best to him, and how his performance, you know,
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was this season. You know, sometimes the things that are
best for you aren't the things that you you you know,
you sometimes go for or or end up doing. And
I think that that's I mean, I think this story
doesn't come come across to me as a military secret.
I don't think that I'm shocked by it by any
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any means. I think that Russell Wilson is to his
heart just again observation. I think he's a good dude.
I think Russ is a good dude. I think he's
an upright dude. I think he does things, wants to
do things the right way, and he wants to be
recognized for doing things the right way. I just think
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sometimes when you turn that that type of approach to
what you do in your life, when you turn it
inside out and you look at it, some of the
motivations might be off. You know some of the I
heard you say ego. Sometimes the ego gets into the
way and you're doing great things and you want to
continue to do great things, and you want to be
looked at as the greatest. I mean, I would call
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the conversations that were being had when he was at
the super Bowl that Tom Brady was in that they won,
and how he was with the commissioner, and the biggest
conversations that came out is that Russ wanted to do
the same exact thing that Tom Brady did. He wanted
to have the ability to bring in who he wanted
to bring in and handle things the way that tom
Brady had handled them. And I just I just think
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that he got a little too far at what they say,
too far out over his skis on what he was
thinking that he could have come oomplish and in his
fantasy world versus what you're really able to accomplish in
the world of reality, and you know, sometimes that happens.
Do you believe that he asked for Pete Carroll and
John Schneider to be yes fired? Yes? Yeah, I believe
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it too. And I'm not going to say he said
in that way like I want you fired. I believe
he probably, if anything, would have said, there's the you know,
in order to create a better winning environment, I think
that bringing in someone instead of us continuing to fire
offensive coordinators and try to figure it out that way,
why not bring in a coach that understands it the
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way that is Sean Payton understands it, and let's go
get these super bowls. I believe he presented it in
a way where it made sense to him and it
was worth presenting because otherwise that's that's that's egregious to
do that, to take that approach, that's egregious, which is
why Pete Carroll's got to be coming off last season
going I know we lost in the first round of
the playoffs, but considering what we were dealt in the
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off season that we had somebody calling for my job
and for the GM's job after we were the ones
that drafted this guy in the third round and then
decided to start him go against the quarterback in Matt Flynn,
who we paid. And then they did what they did
this past season revitalized Geno Smith's career. He did a
hell of a job. He's probably looking at a contract extension.
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Brady brought up the rookie draft class was phenomenal in
comparison to you know, the Jets and some of these
other great rookie draft classes. Oh and by the way,
after all that we've got the fifth overall pick because
of the trade with Russell Wilson, I mean, bar outside
of winning a Super Bowl and all the other things
that come along with that. Pete Carroll's got to be
coming off this past season, if this report is true,
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and got to be feeling great about where he stands
in comparison to Russell Wilson. It went as perfect as
possible for Pete Carroll. So that is the story out
from the Athletic that Russell Wilson called for jobs, specifically
John Schneider and Pete Carroll to be fired before last season,
and they made their choice. So there it is just
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Oh man, I wonder, I wonder where it all changed.
If it changed after the super Bowl, if it changed
after some of the consistent success, if it was watching
other guys do it, you know, if there was outside influences,
you know, people who came into his life. I started
talking to him like that because it just it doesn't. Again,
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it wasn't the guy who I remember playing with and
getting to know then. And and that's the sad thing
is is that person I think was best suited helped
lead a team to win because he was so centered
on the team it was. He wasn't centered on himself.
I think there's something to be said for that, and
there's something I think that's a great summing up of it.
And also when you mentioned the comparison and him wanting to,
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you know, have what tom Brady had, Like, yeah, Tom Brady,
you know, celebrity wife, supermodel, family, money, commercials and door
SPAN's fame, all that stuff. But I've never heard a
teammate of Tom Brady's come out with really anything bad
to say about him. Everybody loves the guy that He's
always been pretty consistent through his entire career about who
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he was, and it feels like Russell Wilson just veered off,
wanted to do something different, wanted to have control, and
then you ended up with what you ended up with
in Denver. This past season's crazy late. But I mean
when you look at Tom Brady and I've known Tom
since since college, Tom Brady to look at from the
outside looks like a super arrogant dude, and that could
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be like kind of the conclusion that you draw. You
could look at Russell Wilson and you could draw the
same conclusion. He comes across as an arrogant dude, you know,
over the less, you know, two three years. One thing
about it. And I can't say this about Russ because
I've never met him, but if you ever were around
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Tom Brady, Tom Brady is one of the most graciost
humble dudes that you'll be around. You know. I could
say some names that that are connected to having success
that come across one way, and they're very much that
way in person, like won't even acknowledge your presence, and
that there's someone that should be considered to be a counterpart,
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a comrade of sorts and and they wouldn't even acknowledge
your your presence of being around them. Their arrogance level,
their arrogance meter is on high. So I don't know
which one Russ is, but I just feel like the
things that he does doesn't paint the picture that that's
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still the you know, the person that you said a humble,
you know, kind of team first type of guy. That's
just not you know, when you and I had to say,
it's like obvious stuff like you know, Bear Whitman, you
who you're married. You know, the outfits that you wear
to the game. You know, like when when I saw
the what was it salmon shiny suit, shiny shoes, prom
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prom outfit that he war. This isn't about your team.
This is purely about whatever it is. Your agenda is
for yourself, Thank you us. I think it has become
very apparent. I mean, when you're on the sideline telling
your your your people to scream out run past, and
you're like to understand the culture of football, that's a
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no no. That's a no no. A quarterback can come
over to the defensive side and encourage us, but if
you got an offensive guy that's doing things like that,
that's like you're crossing the line of an unspoken written rule.
You you mow your lawn, and will mow our lawn,
and together we're going to handle our jobs and do
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it's all right, Friday. It is football Friday. Here, the
weather is is wow, yeah it is. Hey, it's leaves
forecast right there? Where did that come from to lead
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the lab forecast? What that is? Right there? All right?
So here's uh, here's what we need to start with,
because this is too good to pends up. We talked
yesterday as as the show was closing about Aaron Rodgers.
He emerged from the darkness, his darkness retreat at Sky
Cave or whatever it's called up in Oregon, and that
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was the details that came out, and then we got
further details on what exactly Aaron Rodgers has been up
to over the last several days. Now, I was not
aware that this was the type of training facility that
the elites in the National Football League go to. You
guys have always said Arizona is one of the great
spots because everything's there, A lot of elite facilities and
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places to really work on your game in the off season.
But apparently there's now somebody that's trying to make the
case for why they are the place to go to
if you want to work on your craft in the
off season. Let me just describe these specs for you,
and you tell me if you guys are interested. How's
a partially underground Hobbit like structure with three hundred square
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feet of space, devoid of light, with a queen bed
bathroom and a meditation like matt on the floor, fully
powered so at any point the light can be turned
on from inside the room. How's that? What's the square footage?
Three hundred feet three hundred score feet. So what's the
size of this room? That's like a hotel in Manhattan,
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isn't it without a view? Yeah? The same thing like closet. Yeah,
it's very tiny. You can go to New York and
get that. Yeah, they said Hobbit like. By the way,
in New York, it's probably like twenty five a month.
I'd have to say. I'd have to say the way,
there's a height limit for me if I was a
certain height and I was under that limit of of
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how tall I am maybe that might be interesting because
the moment I hear hobbit, I just think really small
and I'll get out. I'll panic. Panic. It's so weird
in a small, tight space. Like you know how people
like go to like uh you know, like do their
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like journeys and they go like to see like Jerusalem
and stuff like that. You gotta walk down them little
steps that go in and out of like the mountains
and stuff like that. I can't do that. No, I'll panic,
I'll panic. I would like two two two two two
two two Jonas Jonas, I'm stuck, Jonas, I'm a stuck.
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Can y'all grab me? Like no, h no, and I'm
I'm I'm being dead serious. I'll freak out. I'll freak out.
So this wouldn't I need some loop Berto Burt I
needs some loube. I need some loop right down Burto
right now, Burto, I needs some blue. Oh my gosh,
oh my gosh, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. I
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can't breathe. I can't breathe. I mean, if you've seen
the pictures online, it's kind of a cool little spot. Yeah, yeah,
it is, like there's like snow covering it, and then
you walk downstairs and they've got there's you know, like
a bathtub there there. It's not the total darkness that
we were led to believe. It was like there there
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is some stuff that and as they mentioned, I don't
want to go that far. But as they mentioned, you
can turn the lights on at any point in time.
So that is that is something that you are able
to do. It's a battle of willpower, though, you know.
But do you you know, I actually think that's more
of the part of the test, you know, right, I mean,
you've got the ability to right there in your room,
but do you actually do it? Yeah? Hello? Does that
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about come in here? Huh? What's you say? Who's that? Wait?
Was that a mouse? Now? So there's now is there?
There's there? No food? Also, like, what about is there
to give you the food? Right? Don't they bring the food?
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I think or whatever it is? Yeah, so it might
be like a like a four day four or five
day fast. No way, they give you food, water. They
give you food and water, I don't know, might even
give you some wine. Yeah, but if you really want
with that wine some of that wine. Yeah, but if
you really want some of that hippie juice to hit
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you hard. You want to do it on an empty stomach,
don't you. I don't know what hippie juice, but like
you know that like the toad venom or whatever he
like sucks off the ground. I think it might be
like VCR cleaner, the like snorted off. Oh no, like
like so old. No one gets that. Well, I mean,
to live in a three hundred square foot hobbit like
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hole is pretty old. I think as well too. I
mean this, this seems that's actually like mini units like
apartment units are actually becoming more of the fad. Now, well,
he probably did take a pound of that OUI down
there with it though? What is the Uhi? Who we?
And then you're not? And then now I will say this,
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Now that would have me relaxed, Like if I was
going down that mountain and going to no small spaces
of which y'all and and you know, I would be
more like, hey, guys, this is really narrow. You think
we can make it? You think we should try? Look
at my belly, man like, I don't think I'll make it.
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That would be how I'd handled it. Then, Yeah, it
would be less screaming. I'd just be yeah, oh yeah,
because it'd probably be the reason why I don't make it.
You know, you guys would be like slipping in and out,
hey where you have our Like I'll be sitting there like, yeah,
I don't think my belly's gonna allow me to make
it to where you guys are. I'll just see you
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back at the hotel. I mean, I'll go wait at
the van. I'll be at the van. It looks like
someplace it would be at the North Pole the way
it's presented online. If you look at some of the
pictures and some of the videos and the tour. I've
never been to the North Pole. I'm just saying, like,
if you watching all of these Christmas movies where the
elves live, like this is like one of the places
they said Hobbits, you know the Hobbit is right like
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Lord of the Rings Hobbit. It's just so weird. This
whole thing is so weird. You know what? This actually
made me think of twenty twenty three two Pros and
a Cup of Joe team building, Like we go away
to one of these spots for me building, I'm out,
I mean, come on, come out, come on, come on,
var who the whole show the whole show or just show.
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Maybe we stay at night. You know, I have a
team building. This is dangerous enough. This is dangerous enough
being with Lee and Burtoe's ass literally in this room
here with doors separating. Yeah, I feel like Eddie's there,
here's the responsible one. Keep Lee and I just don't
think that you could control their flagelence. Well, I'm more
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worried about Berto not watching porn. Probably be there with him.
That probably oment of bonding until until until he blue
hole though, you know, oh, come on, come on BEI
it's been a while. One of the guy said the word,
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I don't know it was, what word? The S word? No, No,
I don't think i've heard. No. Well, you you're off
of that Olawaska. That's all right, a little morning, that's
all right. It's uh, you didn't have your you know,
your performance enhancing video show. He started thinking about something
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with an S word in it that was in his mind. Yeah,
all right, that works, so a right there. But this
is uh, this is the latest on the Aaron Rode well. Also,
Tom Pella Sero spoke with Rich Eysen and he said
that the packers want Rogers back as long as as
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he's fully bought in. So I don't know what fully
bought in means another. So why is Bob again reporting
one thing and now Pellicero here's something different? Like what?
I don't get it because nobody's on the inner circle.
You know who is in the inner circle though, A
bunch of garden gnomes who was hanging out with for
four days about the little gnomes from Frozen. That's what
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I keep thinking. It's I thought us roll into that.
So I just keep thinking of those little stone people.
That's why I imagine when I saw that hut, I
was like, Oh, they must live there, the stone people
that Disney World. So so where does this rank as
far as weirdest places you guys? What's the weirdest place
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you guys have ever been? What's the weirdest space you
have ever been in? Like weird? Like this is weird?
Oh God, I don't think she's listening. Um, I was
gonna say, uh goodness, I would go I would say
weirdest place. So many different places with that statement you made,
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but go it. Oh. I stayed at a hotel at
a motel near the Charleston Airport in South Carolina when
I first got out there that I don't think I
slept at all because I was too busy worried about
either who was breaking in and who was taken whatever
it was out of my car that was in the
parking lot. It was it was sketchy, it was dirty,
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the I could you could hear everything. It was like
one of those motels that still had a sign up
that said free HBO after eight pm. Like it was
bad like that. That was probably the worst worst decision
I made of amongst many bad decisions I've made as
far as places to stay, Yeah, I'll put that right
at the top of the list. We went on a
mission trip in the Dominican one time, and the initial
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hotel we stayed out, Yeah, it was like a hostel
and that was fine, Like, like the accommodations weren't great,
but I kind of knew that going into it. Well,
for some reason, the group wanted to move hotels to
some of their spot but they couldn't. Really. Basically, one woman,
I'm not gonna say who it was, messed up the
entire thing, like through a fit. We're out of the hostel.
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Now we have nowhere to go, so they have to
find like this hotel kind of in the middle of nowhere,
So like pulling up to it, it didn't look that bad,
and then you started to realize upon check in what
exactly it was. Considering you get a packet of a
couple of condoms and some lubricant. And when I when
I literally went into my room, it's all it's just mirrors, ceilings, mirrors,
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all the walls, arms, and there's neon lights, all this
stuff in the next room. I don't know. All I
know is my my sister and brother in law pulled
up to theirs and like literally two people ran out,
like two people were that that room was in use
and so they had to get a different room. But
like it was, I didn't sleep at all. There was
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like ants in this in the room and all this stuff.
It was very unclept unclean. I like took some of
the towels like laid them down just lit on top
of them. I was. It was one of the grossest,
most uncomfortable places I've ever I don't think I slept
more in three Yeah. Yeah, So upon further review, the
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hobbit like structure didn't sound all that would be way
more comfortable. Yeah, I would agree. I think when I
was fourteen years old, I went to I went to
Europe to play basketball, and we stayed at host homes
in um In Germany, Strasburg, Germany. And the way the
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home was configured, it was almost like an indoor outdoor home.
So it's like you're you're walking outdoors. You're indoors, but
you're walking outdoors to get to where you're going to
the restroom or where you showered, stuff like that. It
was like vegetation every ware hardware store. You go out
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to the lawn and garden area. You know, you leave
the actual story. You go out and you got lawn
and garden. But it was like an older home, like
an older structure, and it just it weirded me out
really bad, really badly, like almost like it's something wild,
like almost like you're exposed to the only thing that's
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really keeping you away from outdoors. Which this sounds really
weird because the way you know, I mean, a door
separates you from outside when you're in a home, right,
but not your bedroom door. I guess that's what makes
it legitimate. Right when you go to your home where
you're gonna stay, you go inside, your front door is
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your this separates me from everything else that shouldn't be
your bedroom door, you know what I mean? Does that
make sense? So it was kind of like the minute
I opened my bedroom door to get to the other rooms,
you had to go through another door to get to
like where they sat down to eat. Like and I'm
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telling you this was like a traditional German family. Like
I was eating chocolate or whatever. It is, like how
you're putting the tell on, like they were getting like
like bread, Like they went and got the bread. You
nice soft pretzel. It was not a pretzel. It was
like a baguette type of deal or whatever. It was
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like they went like got on their bicycle, went and
got it right, had chocolate boom, put the bread together,
all this stuff. Anyway, to get to where I was
eating with my host family, I had to go out
of my door, which put me outside. I'm outside and
it's cold, super cold. Walk down the steps. Turn hair,
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there's a bedroom there. They got a bedroom, right hair,
there's your bathroom right there, and then here's where they eat.
And then you go through that door and you sit
down and you eat, and it's like you're exposed to outside.
I guess it should have been considered cool, like this
is like a cool last structure, but it sounds fun.
It freaked me out. It freaked me out. I was
freaked out, like I was kind of and I think
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we I think I was there, if I recalled correctly,
it was it was multiple days. It's like two or
three days because we were in a basketball camp. It
was an Adidas camp. Yeah, but you probably fit right
in with the rest of the community. I certainly stood out,
so did my teammates. What does that mean, Well, we
were black in Germany. I mean there's no black people
in German, you know. You know Kanye and uh jay
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Z did a song on it. Uh you know what
I mean? What was it called. You're trying to tell
me they were in another part of of of Europe.
You're trying to tell me no member, Yeah, trying to
tell me no member Ramstein was black. One. Well, the
only person who references ramstele one. It's like one of
the great German techno metal bands of all time. What
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are you talking about? Trying to put people up on
a little bit of game. Yeah, yeah, but I didn't
feel uncomfortable being a black man in a German family,
a traditional German family's house. And there's so many different
ways we could have took that one. There's so many
different ways that could go and I don't I don't
ever want to get canceled or you know, end up
like Kyrie or anybody like that. There are so many
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different directions you could go in. But what I will
say is very nice people, very accommodating. It was. It
was a beautiful thing. They're big basketball fans, um, it
had a great time. Nothing to do with that, just
just more so. It was just I had never been
in a structure where like you had to grab like
a handle that came out of the ceiling that's how
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you flushed the toilet like it was. It was. I
don't even want to say it was primitive, because it wasn't.
I don't think it was primitive. It was just different.
It was just the configuration. And I don't know if
that was normal or or not, but it definitely was
a little like like, I don't know, I was like
kind of like, you know, concerned. I mean, if you
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want to be fourteen years old, of course, but you know,
I mean you want to upgrade. There's a three hundred
square foot hobbit like structure up in Oregon. You can
check out Yes ticket your fancy it is two Pros
dressed like a hobbit when you do this, who knows?
I mean maybe gross hair out again, who knows. Be
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(17:24):
Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas
Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So there's a
situation at quarterback going on in the NFC South. You
know that division that was I think maybe the worst
division in all of football. But we're going to find
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out who picked the winners from that division coming up here.
As we look back on our season picks, and there
were some bad ones. I've already gotten a glimpses to
some of my picks from before the year. So we're
gonna get to that later on this hour. But Jeff Darlington,
Brady's drinking Buddy on St. Patty's Day every year of ESPN.
He says that Kyle Trask is likely to be the
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starting quarterback Week one of the season for the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, and that GM Jason Lte believes he's the
best quarterback in the division. And so the current quarterbacks
in the NFC South right now, LeVar your guy, Matt,
Matt Corral, Jacob Eason, Desmond Ritter, Marcus Mariota, Logan Woodside,
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Jameis Winston, Jake Luton, and then Taysom Hill. So that
is the list of quarterbacks. And that is why the
GM for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers feels like Kyle Trask
is the best of the bunch. What about outside of
the South? I'm just saying right now, these are these
are guys that are under contract. What I'm saying is is,
if you're basing what the success of your team is
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going to be during the season, if the list of
quarterbacks are that poor, what are you basing your comparison
off of the list of poor quarterbacks? You know what
I mean? Like, Okay, so you have the best quarterback
in the NFC South, but what about the rest of
the NFC? Well, yeah, I don't. You want to have
a quarterback that can help you compete against the teams
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that don't have a quarterback that's either unproven or just
not considered to be an elite quarterback. But he just
retired so they're they're looking around going and they're the
way their salary cap is at there, I think they're
way over the cap right now. I think they're so.
I don't know what their options are as far as
a quarterback goes. But nonetheless, it looks like it's going
to be Kyle Trask and Tampa Bay to take over
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for Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. So this is Top
Bowls's last year as the hit coach. Oh, come on
a little face. I was asking a question. I wasn't
making a statement. It was a question. Y'all's response answered
my question, So we can move off. Y'all's response was
the answer the good They should feel good about Trask
they draft in the second round, Yes, and I mean
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did they train take him. It's kind of irrelevant it's
where they took him. But if they take him the
second round, you'd think that they feel good enough to
take him there. I mean, bottom line is, eventually he
was gonna get a shot to be the guy. So
this is that opportunity now for him. But so is
this the Top Bowls is last year? If it don't
work out, yeah, probably, I mean I said it to
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you guys before I think there's some teams setting up
to get killable Williams and Drake may I just I
think that's what teams are setting up to do. There
are two of the better prospects we've seen in quite
some time, and I think that's what some of these
teams can be setting up for. It sounds awful, but
I'm telling you right now, that's if you're looking across
the league, and if you don't have a Patrick Mahomes,
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if you don't have a Joe Burrow, if you don't
have a Josh Allen, probably a Justin Herbert falls in
that category, you don't get a shot. That's just the
truth of the matter. Jaylor Hurts, you know, I think
it's developed into that. Although you know that roster, they've
got a ton of free agents, you know, two on
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the offensive line, two on the defensive line, a couple
of players in the secondary, Edwards at linebacker, you know,
Sanders at running back, They've got They've got a Pascal
at wide receiver. They've got a number of guys who
are going to be free agents, and Hurts has to
be extended, so you know they're gonna they're gonna fall
into that category. Of how does Howie Roseman build that
roster around Hurts on his second deal because he's gonna
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get paid. And then we'll see how Hurts is able
to manage all of that, because we've seen Malmes now
for years on his rookie deal and not his rookie
deal be able to manage the whole thing. You know,
the Bengals are about ready to experience that with Burrow.
So what happens with t Higgins? You know that can
they afford to keep more? Is he gonna be traded off?
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You know, there's just there's all those scenarios and how
you're able to do it. And I know a bunch
of people think that you can't pay your quarterback still
win super Bowls. No you can. No one said you
can't do that. But your quarterback's got to be special.
He's got to be the type of guy that can
elevate the level of everyone else side around them. Now,
look in regards to the Bucks, maybe they feel like
Kyle Trask has the ability to do some of that.
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We'll have to wait and see, but I think more
often than not they look at guys like Kittle Williams
and Drake May in college right now and they go
that's who I'd like to set myself up to be
able to go get in the twenty twenty four draft
because they look like that those types of players. The
NFC South is the NFC East of this year, coming up,
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of the season coming up, You're really coming hard at
the NFC South today. I'm just saying the NFC East
was supposed to be considered to be the poorest of
divisions coming into this season, and they actually exceeded expectations.
Right you had the Eagles play in the Super Bowl,
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they played well, the Giants research or re emergence as
as a good team. Washington closed out the season pretty
pretty strong, and you had Dallas that that made it
into the playoffs. So you know, there's the opportunity, there's
the chance that they could, you know, exceed expectations as
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it applies to you know, what the season looks like.
But today today I'm I'm not I'm not high on
the South. They're they're the new to me. I'm projecting
them to be the division that you say is like
the poors division, Like that's the poor division. Well, with
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Tom Brady, the division winner won eight games last year,
so that ought to tell you. And they were an
underdog at home against the Cowboys in a playoff game
and that game got trash. Yeah, and that game wasn't
even close. So I just what happened to Jameis Winston.
I thought Jameis Winston and New Orleans was going to
be the perfect setup. And then the weird stuff that
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was happening last year where Andy Dalton through like three
or four picks against Arizona and still got to keep
his job, and they just rolled with that for the
remainder of the year, and it felt like Taysom Hill
was getting more love at the end of the year.
I know Jameis Winston was dealing with some injuries, but
I thought Jameis Winston in New Orleans was was a
movie I was gonna pay off thinking the same thing.
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What happened to Jameis Winston? Is it because he does
weird offseason workouts. He's not in a hobbit hole like
Aaron Rodgers, and so now he just loses an opportunity
to play again. Its terrible. Maybe because he's in the
cannibalism I mean, didn't try to eat his on hand.
He deal a weird It was a dug his point.
It was a W good point. It was it was
a flesh w. Yeah, and yeah, I just that that
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weird to me out in so many different ways. Yeah,
the little little dahmer going on, there's really going to
do this? It is he really gonnaff you? I mean
he was enjoying it. If you had a teammate do
that in a huddle, would you ever look at him
the same? Again, if he was trying to get you
fired up. If he would have broke out a bottle
of hot sauce, I would have been through like that's like, yeah,
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hot sauce. W. Would you've asked for a trade immediately after?
I would have. I would have wondered, or is your
mental stability okay? Like are we good? You're you're trying
to eat a W like you you literally ate your W?
I mean, is it worse than stealing crabs from a publix?
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Because he did that. I mean he explained that story before,
by the way, which you know, it wasn't as it
wasn't like I kind of feel like it was like,
who thought it was more of a hookup? It was
That's what it was. It wasn't like he went in there.
I was like, all right, I'm trying to sneak him out,
like he had a guy who was hooking him up
and that got caught. He's got a crab deal and
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that happens. That happens at Florida State. I mean, some
guy's got a crab deal coming out of Vegas. It
just depends on what kind of crab do you. Some
people get crab deals no matter where you live. That's
I don't know how you're roll it be Chocolate City.
It's true. That is true. I didn't think about that part.
That's that's a great point again. You guys are on
it today. Man, want them crabs? No, yeah, m m yeah,
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tough to cook. You don't want any of them crabs
in fact? Yeah yeah, so big the lee you if
they're If they're that big, you're in trouble. Yeah, that's
all I'll say. In trouble. Get what you're saying for sure.
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That makes all the sense in the world. Man. All right,
So that is that's an update on the quarterback situation
in the NFC. So well, I mean, like what else?
What else? It's shaping up to be the worst division?
Hold on, let me let me throw this out there.
But the Bucks won on last year eight and nine. Yes,
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just if you guys think that like anyone's gonna finish
better than that this year based on what they have
to one in the season, not based off of what
we're looking at. Eight eight is is pretty What is that?
That's ambitious? I think Carolina is going to win the division. Yeah,
I'm with you on that. That's my early pick. Whatever
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it is. I think Carolina's got talent there. And if
they do land a quarterback in the draft, if that's
the direction they want to go, or they who knows,
go free agency or land one of these veterans that
feels like a team that you look at and go,
they could make a jump. No offense to Matt rule
and what happened last year, but they did they were
in contention. They would of Frank Reich and a young
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quarterback too. He's done it before. He had wentz young
some of his best time there. Um. I just I
feel like he's got experience doing that and I think
if they draft one, they play one right away, that
could work, unless it ends up being a veteran. I'm
just I'm not sure who that venter would be. And
as I said before, they've gone that route. If I'm
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David Tepper, I'm like, man, I'm not sure I want
to do this again. I'd rather just go with a
young guy. We dropped in the top ten investing that guy.
And by the way, Frank Reich went that route in
Indianapolis and got burned. I just think Atlanta is a
Atlanta is a to me, their intriguing team. That's an
intriguing team because they were competitive. They were competitive with
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Mariota at quarterback and and I think Pitts went out
I think he got hurt or something to that effect
this year. I mean, they have some real tools to
be able to win. They show that they can be
a very competitive football team. I think that's the most
intriguing team to look at out depending on who they
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have at quarterback. But I like Atlanta, I don't. I
think they did my guy, Calvin Ridley a little dirty personally.
But you know, guy can't place a parlay or two
for fifteen hundred dollars and then you're just gonna like
send him off to Jacksonville like that. And what will
Tampa Bay's defense look like? I mean, how's the you know,
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what's the retention there, who's coming back, who's leaving. I
think that will play a major party. They kind of
let them down, not not kind of they they they
let their team down this year. They were supposed to
be a better defense than what they showed this year,
especially in that playoff game. They just did not look
like the defense that that helped lead them to all
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the success that they had when Tom Brady got there.
You know, you mentioned Atlanta one of the stories that's
been thrown out there, and again this could all just
be garbage, but this is one of the things that
has been thrown out as a possibility that, uh, you know,
maybe Atlanta calls the Bears and says, how much do
you really like Justin Fields? And maybe they make a
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move and the Bears go ahead and take Bryce Young
at number one. One of the one of the ideas
that's been thrown out there if you want to fix
that quarter back position in Atlantic, because they're sitting at nine,
so are sitting at eight rather so I don't know
who's going to be sitting there for them if they
don't believe in Desmond Ritter, but you could upgrade the
position and grab Justin Field, who is from Georgia if
I'm not mistaken from from the area, So a little
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bit of a homecoming there. Why does everyone, though, always
make it about where the players from. It's important, is it? Yeah?
Hell yeah? Come on? Why is that important? Okay? Like,
why do you and I connect because we're both from Ohio?
Mich LaVar? Like what it like? All this stuff makes sense?
You know. Here's the thing is, On a real note,
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there's probably some people that take a letsit a bit
offense to that because you're definitely not from Ohio are
you talking about I mean, it's like no different than
if he claims from pas from I am not there too,
the big thirty three that was named after me. Nobody
responds to you, though, what are you talking about? Nobody?
If you were there, no one would respond to you.
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I think it's humorous. There's someone out there right now
who would would kick your ass trying to claim this.
Well before they kick my ass and can kiss my ass.
Can be from wherever I want to be from. So
if I want to be from Dublin or from the Burg,
I can do both. I've been to Dublin, all right,
well from's been You've been there one time? One was announced.
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I showed Q how how people are in those situations,
Like you know, when we were at Penn State and
we were doing a big dune show, I showed I mean,
there was a demonstration of it's different when you know
when somebody that isn't from there, they know we know. Yeah.
Rob Stone was trying to get the crowd pumped up.
It was funny and show them what it really meant.
That's right. Rob was like we are. They were like
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we are. They're looking at Rob like a You're not
what they say we are? Rob think he was doing
an MLSAM or something. One more time. How did you
rit Rob South? It was like we are, Hey guys,
we are tend It turned into a question like a
real It wasn't a chance, it turned into a real
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question like we we are? Are we? Then you took
it from there. Well, I just had to help help out.
You know, it hits differently when when you're from where
you say you're from, or if you're part of the
mob that you're part of, we just you know, you
recognize one another, just like when even in the midst
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of a hostile environment, you know, urban throughout the oh
and there were enough people there where it resonated. They
finished it off. You're not from Ohio, You're not from
Pittsburgh or paw Just accept it, man, it's okay. That's
the problem is if you ever made it out a
big noon, they'd be able to sniff out the fact
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that you're not one of them. Well, especially in the Midwest.
I would prepare for the occasion, so I would you
would You would be dressed how you normally dress a church,
stick out like a sore throat. It's not true. I
would love to hear you scream we are okay at
a Penn State gay. I would love to hear it.
I mean, I would show up. First of all, I
would go on the gas immediately after whatever. If we decide,
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all right, we're gonna bring you out to big newon
kickoff like whatever I could possibly get my hands on,
I'd go on the gas and I would be torn
up from the floor up. And I would show up.
I mean, because if I'm going to Ohio, here here
would be the movie. That's how you dress in Ohio. Dockers,
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ferry boat shoes up and aloss up. Why is that
messed up? Maybe I'm made up? Maybe a Hollister coat.
You know, depending on what the weather's like. Who are
you coming at right now? Are you going after to
meet with I'm not going after it now. I know
you're going out now. They know they dressed with class,
all right, that is that wasn't classy what you just said. No,
I'm just saying that I want to. They wouldn't even
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swing at you. They'd slap you. I'm like, you just
get slapped. But that's how disrespectful would be. This is
just I don't think violence is the answer. But again,
I grew up in Pittsburgh, so maybe you guys do.
Now you're gonna switched up. I'm a whore. I'll go
from Ohio to Pittsburgh. You're gonna get that horse slap
right on back to where you came from. The Pittsburgh yo. Ass.
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This is a report that just dropped via The Athletic
that before the Seahawks traded Russell Wilson to the Broncos,
that Russell Wilson requested that the team fire head coach
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Pete Carroll and general manager John Snyder, and the bullet
points on this are as such that Russell Wilson was
convinced that both the head coach and GM of the
Seahawks were getting in the way of his quest to
win additional Super Bowls and individual awards. According to league
sources who spoke to the Athletic, and that the quarterback
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preferred a replacement that guy would be Sean Payton, who
recently who right before that, had stepped down from New Orleans.
So Russell Wilson wanted to work he does, and then
Russell Wilson placed his request to fire the coach and
GM in February of twenty twenty two. Within days of
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the call, top team officials met and decided to pursue
trading the nine time pro bowler and Sean Payton and
Russell Wilson, as you mentioned, are back reunited in Denver.
But now when you look back on how excited Pete
Carroll was to beat Russell Wilson week one, all the
former teammates that came back, how Pete never missed an
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opportunity to take a little bit of a dig at
Russell Wilson this past season. If these reports are true,
now it kind of makes some sense why there was
sort of the animosity that Pete Carroll carried towards Russell
Wilson even after he was gone. According to the Athletic,
how about it, it's a lot a little bit of
spice on a Friday. It hurts me to hear that.
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And the reason why I say this is you know,
I spent half a year there right basically sort of
the offseason to the last cuts in twenty thirteen. Everything
I witnessed during my time there from March until the
end of August that seemed was special, the culture of special,
everything that John Schneider and Pete Carroll had built with
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special and Russell was not the type of player to
make that sort of demand. Now. Granted this is before
you know, they won the Super Bowl, because they won
it that year, made it to back to back, and
he came more in to start him. But it's sad
to hear that because, you know, the conversation that I
had after working out with them and when they invited
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me up and I sat down with John Schneider and
talked about, you know, why they wanted to bring me in.
It really was talking about Russell and he said, you know,
we really feel like we have lightning in a bottle.
We feel like this young man is, you know, everything
that we were hoping for. You know, he's not the
biggest guy, but he checks off every other box. We
feel like we can win a super Bowl with him.
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And he said, we need, you know, a good veteran
presence around him to continue to help him grow, help
him learn how to break down film and prepare and
studying all those things. And Russell was the type that
was very very mature, even though he was going into
a second year in the league. And so you know,
I kind of took it on upon myself to try to,
you know, have that sort of impact on him during
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my time there in Seattle with him. But he really
just came off as a very humble, hard working guy
who was just trying to kind of fit in this
locker room filled with alpha's. I mean, and I mean
alpha's like you talk about guys like a Richard Sherman
for example, you know, Cliff Avril, who were older guys,
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um who led from the defensive side of the ball.
Chris Clemens, you know, coming off the Red Bryant, you know,
I mean, biggest dude in the locker room. You know,
you talk about some of the alpha's that you had
that were really led that from the defensive side of
the ball. You know, that was a place where you know,
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at times when you go out there and compete, man,
you were just trying to survive, like you couldn't have
an off day. That team was so loaded and so
act that like every single drill was always competitive because
every single guy on that roster. If you didn't make
Seattle's roster, you made another roster. That's how competitive it was.
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I mean I remember even like it just in preseason games,
beating the life out of teams, like it wasn't even close,
just because of how talented and deep that roster was
coming into training camp, like I'd never I'd never been
a part of a roster where you looked and you're like,
every single one of these dudes is going to be
on a roster somewhere, like there's none of them, none
of them like this. This is not the end for
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any of these players. And that's so my point is
just it was such a unique culture of competitiveness that
John Schneider and Pete Carroll had built. You know, Russell
was such a m just a very like pleasure to
be around, as far as how he had conducted his business,
how he handled himself, you know, being very mature for
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a guy who's like early on in his career, had
taken a team to the playoffs in his first year
as a rookie, and some of the stuff he was doing.
And so it's it's sad to see what happens, you know,
and maybe it's it's from a you know, success, and
maybe it's ego driven and however you want to look
at it. But you know, when you start to hear
the truth of the matter afterwards, it makes a lot
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of sense for why Pete Carroll, you know, said and
did some of the things he did. I mean, can
you imagine a player, you know, guys coming in and
asking you to be fired, you know, behind your back,
not knowing it. I mean, maybe it's one thing if
for us just said it straight to his face, but
it sounded like he was going to trying to go
behind their back to make this stuff happen. And you know,
I think this past year was a big win for
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Pete Carroll and John Snyder, you know, first off, because
I think John Snyder had the best draft class of anyone.
If you look at the amount of rookies they had
that impact their team too, offensive lineman, a running back
in Kenneth Walker, Um, their their cornerback Terrek Wohlan, who
was phenomenal this year. They had a number of players
actually on defense. But if you really break down which
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you know, which team's rookie draft picks had a big impact.
You know, Casey is up there, but Seattle's right there too,
And and I would I find it hard to believe
that Pete Carroll was looking at the teams and John
sid was looking at this team saying we're not trying
to win a Super Bowl every year, Like that's just
not how Pete's driven. Like from my time being on,
Pete didn't matter what we were doing. It could have
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been tidally, winks, horseshoes, whatever it was. He was trying
to win like that. That's just a competitive guy. So
it's sad to see that that relationship fracture because I
know in the beginning they really really really felt he
was special because those are the conversations that I had
that Russell wasn't in the room, and that was what
was being told to me. So it's sad to see
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it it got to that part at that point. So
it goes on to say in this article from The
Athletic that a lawyer for Russell Wilson wrote a letter
to the Athletic, and he characterized the assertion that Wilson
called for Carroll's and Schneider's firing as quote, entirely fabricated.
The Seahawks declined to comment for the story, so it
went on just to discuss his first year in Denver.
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They talked to more than fifteen Broncos players, coaches, and
staffers about the season, and the way that it was
painted was what a lot of people assume that you
had a quarterback who got way too much power, and
you had a head coach that was way too accommodating,
and it just spun out of control, and it spun
out of control fast. Russ. It strikes me as he's
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the type of guy that always felt like him being
an overachiever would lead to him being to where he
ended up in life. And sometimes that driving factor, that
fuel that motivator can lead you down some dangerous, dangerous paths.
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I know, for me, I probably I can say I'm
not probably. I honestly have experienced what fame, fortune, and
and notoriety can bring your way. You know, I dated celebrities.
I had you know, clout and conversations and and and
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situations where I could dictate things based off of what
my accomplishments had had created. I ended up being on
you know, being around you know, celebrities and being on
sets and stuff like that. I mean, you're talking about
a dude that was in you know, the movie of
Entourage and stuff like that and then ends up marrying
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a you know, a performer, a celebrity. I just think
that when you look at all of the things from
a surface level, because I do not know the the
the guy. I don't know him at all, and I
don't want to like unjustly characterize him, but from from
an outsider's perspect act who has experienced a lot of
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the things that he has experienced, and not as a quarterback,
but I've experienced it. I just think that his success
got the best of him, and I think that you
saw the ultimate sum of some of that success getting
the best to him, and how his performance, you know,
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was this season. You know, sometimes the things that are
best for you aren't the things that you you you know,
you sometimes go for or or end up doing. And
I think that that's I mean, I think this story
doesn't come come across to me as a military secret.
I don't think that I'm shocked by it by any
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any means. I think that Russell Wilson is to his
heart just again observation. I think he's a good dude.
I think Russ is a good dude. I think he's
an upright dude. I think he does things, wants to
do things the right way, and he wants to be
recognized for doing things the right way. I just think
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sometimes when you turn that that type of approach to
what you do in your life, when you turn it
inside out and you look at it, some of the
motivations might be off. You know some of the I
heard you say ego. Sometimes the ego gets into the
way and you're doing great things and you want to
continue to do great things, and you want to be
looked at as the greatest. I mean, I would call
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the conversations that were being had when he was at
the super Bowl that Tom Brady was in that they won,
and how he was with the commissioner, and the biggest
conversations that came out is that Russ wanted to do
the same exact thing that Tom Brady did. He wanted
to have the ability to bring in who he wanted
to bring in and handle things the way that tom
Brady had handled them. And I just I just think
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that he got a little too far at what they say,
too far out over his skis on what he was
thinking that he could have come oomplish and in his
fantasy world versus what you're really able to accomplish in
the world of reality, and you know, sometimes that happens.
Do you believe that he asked for Pete Carroll and
John Schneider to be yes fired? Yes? Yeah, I believe
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it too. And I'm not going to say he said
in that way like I want you fired. I believe
he probably, if anything, would have said, there's the you know,
in order to create a better winning environment, I think
that bringing in someone instead of us continuing to fire
offensive coordinators and try to figure it out that way,
why not bring in a coach that understands it the
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way that is Sean Payton understands it, and let's go
get these super bowls. I believe he presented it in
a way where it made sense to him and it
was worth presenting because otherwise that's that's that's egregious to
do that, to take that approach, that's egregious, which is
why Pete Carroll's got to be coming off last season
going I know we lost in the first round of
the playoffs, but considering what we were dealt in the
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off season that we had somebody calling for my job
and for the GM's job after we were the ones
that drafted this guy in the third round and then
decided to start him go against the quarterback in Matt Flynn,
who we paid. And then they did what they did
this past season revitalized Geno Smith's career. He did a
hell of a job. He's probably looking at a contract extension.
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Brady brought up the rookie draft class was phenomenal in
comparison to you know, the Jets and some of these
other great rookie draft classes. Oh and by the way,
after all that we've got the fifth overall pick because
of the trade with Russell Wilson, I mean, bar outside
of winning a Super Bowl and all the other things
that come along with that. Pete Carroll's got to be
coming off this past season, if this report is true,
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and got to be feeling great about where he stands
in comparison to Russell Wilson. It went as perfect as
possible for Pete Carroll. So that is the story out
from the Athletic that Russell Wilson called for jobs, specifically
John Schneider and Pete Carroll to be fired before last season,
and they made their choice. So there it is just
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Oh man, I wonder, I wonder where it all changed.
If it changed after the super Bowl, if it changed
after some of the consistent success, if it was watching
other guys do it, you know, if there was outside influences,
you know, people who came into his life. I started
talking to him like that because it just it doesn't. Again,
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it wasn't the guy who I remember playing with and
getting to know then. And and that's the sad thing
is is that person I think was best suited helped
lead a team to win because he was so centered
on the team it was. He wasn't centered on himself.
I think there's something to be said for that, and
there's something I think that's a great summing up of it.
And also when you mentioned the comparison and him wanting to,
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you know, have what tom Brady had, Like, yeah, Tom Brady,
you know, celebrity wife, supermodel, family, money, commercials and door
SPAN's fame, all that stuff. But I've never heard a
teammate of Tom Brady's come out with really anything bad
to say about him. Everybody loves the guy that He's
always been pretty consistent through his entire career about who
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he was, and it feels like Russell Wilson just veered off,
wanted to do something different, wanted to have control, and
then you ended up with what you ended up with
in Denver. This past season's crazy late. But I mean
when you look at Tom Brady and I've known Tom
since since college, Tom Brady to look at from the
outside looks like a super arrogant dude, and that could
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be like kind of the conclusion that you draw. You
could look at Russell Wilson and you could draw the
same conclusion. He comes across as an arrogant dude, you know,
over the less, you know, two three years. One thing
about it. And I can't say this about Russ because
I've never met him, but if you ever were around
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Tom Brady, Tom Brady is one of the most graciost
humble dudes that you'll be around. You know. I could
say some names that that are connected to having success
that come across one way, and they're very much that
way in person, like won't even acknowledge your presence, and
that there's someone that should be considered to be a counterpart,
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a comrade of sorts and and they wouldn't even acknowledge
your your presence of being around them. Their arrogance level,
their arrogance meter is on high. So I don't know
which one Russ is, but I just feel like the
things that he does doesn't paint the picture that that's
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still the you know, the person that you said a humble,
you know, kind of team first type of guy. That's
just not you know, when you and I had to say,
it's like obvious stuff like you know, Bear Whitman, you
who you're married. You know, the outfits that you wear
to the game. You know, like when when I saw
the what was it salmon shiny suit, shiny shoes, prom
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prom outfit that he war. This isn't about your team.
This is purely about whatever it is. Your agenda is
for yourself, Thank you us. I think it has become
very apparent. I mean, when you're on the sideline telling
your your your people to scream out run past, and
you're like to understand the culture of football, that's a
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no no. That's a no no. A quarterback can come
over to the defensive side and encourage us, but if
you got an offensive guy that's doing things like that,
that's like you're crossing the line of an unspoken written rule.
You you mow your lawn, and will mow our lawn,
and together we're going to handle our jobs and do
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