February 27, 2023 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys recap Tommy Fury handing Jake Paul his first L but the guys agree the Paul Brothers are doing more for the sport of boxing more than anyone else right now. The NFL Combine is now a made for TV event that teams and players see less value in. Plus, a look back on Chris Jones’ famous 40-yard dash.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
joe when Lamar, Rady, Quinn and Jonas knocks on radio,
a little hodgepodge of a sports weekend. Huh, Little college
basketball had some buzzer beaters. Little NBA Dame Lillard scores
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seventy one. Had he had a boxing match, you had
a spring training start. The Pauls finally took a nail. Huh. Yeah.
Fight storyline though, yeah, it was a good fight. Though
it wasn't a good fight. I mean, you watched it,
so I'm curious to have you tell everyone what you
took from it. Because after you said that, I was like,
all right, let's just go see. And this is a
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terrible exercise. So I wouldn't recommend anyone to do this.
Let's just go see a Twitter ask to say there
were people taking victory laps like they were Tommy Fury right,
and they beat Jake Paul right, which my first thing
is like, what do you like him or not? You
have to respect the fact that the kid gets in
the ring, he hasn't been knocked out yet, and he
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has developed into a boxer. Like you might not think
it's good boxing, that's fine, he's young. He just started
doing this. It's not like he was bred his entire
life to go be a boxer. And he was on
Disney like when he was twelve years old. So I mean,
you have to respect the fact that he's willing to
get in the ring. He hasn't been knocked down yet.
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He's obviously a tough kid. He works his tail off
just to put himself in that position. And like it
or not, he's kind of brought back boxing, like we're
talking about it right now. Right, Yeah, let's not get
carried away. But there's some dope boxers out there that
that's carried But you know what, no one care, Like, Okay,
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this passable kid. I think there has to be more.
I know what you're saying. It does cross a cross
is a tyson. Fury called himself the greatest heavyweight of
all time. Yeah, and here's the thing is, you know,
I don't know where you're going. Well, just people, you
know that there's a lot of time fantastic. So here's
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what I'd say, is come, whether he is or he isn't.
Even if he was, there's not many people paying attention
to legit real boxing anymore. It's very seldom, like, come on, man,
like we grew up in the area of Mike Tyson. Yeah,
like there's no like, there's nothing to me that even compares.
Like I don't even go as far as saying like
Floyd Mayweather, like some of the pack, some of the
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guys who have like transitioned. There's some really great fighters
right now. It's just not the same but doesn't have
the same feeling. I'm sorry. Yeah, there's some I mean
Tank Tank Davis and you know there there there's some
guys that that Garcia, that Garcia fight, that's gonna be
Ryan Garcia, that's gonna be I mean, you have to
be into boxing to know, like, you know, Earl Spence
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is out there, Crawford is out there. I mean, they're
smaller guys. It's not I will say, the heavyweights have
always been the ones that people have leaned on for
the sport to be what it is. So I get it.
But hell, Jake Paul isn't a He's not a heavyweight.
They're they're cruisers. Somebody talking about him. Yeah, I mean
we are talking about him. We are talking about him,
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like the Davis, the Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia fight just
got announced for a ye, I'm gonna be there. Here's
the problem. It's so rare now that any of these
fights actually happen that that's not worthy. That's that's gonna happen.
I mean, if it's not Canello or it's not you know,
Ryan Garcia, Tank Davis. I was at the Canelo Floyd fight.
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Imagine that it's fantastic. Oh man, But like those are
your money makers, and those are the guys that draw,
and there's just not a real big draw anymore, and
you can't trust in any of these fights are gonna
get done. The fact that Terence Crawford Errol Spence hasn't
happened is a disgrace. And it's because boxing is fractured.
You've got different promoters. You can, like, people can say
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whatever they want about Dane White in the UFC. You
know the problem with boxing in comparison to the UFC.
Boxing may have a great main event, but the undercard sucks.
It's brutal. In the UFC, you have legitimate undercards because
it's all under the same umbrella. You don't have different
promoters fighting. And we didn't get our deal. We want to.
We want a sixty forty not a fifty fifty all
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the other crap that comes along with it. At least
you know Jake Paul's promoting it. Yes, he's fighting, you know,
some older MMA guys, and now he just fought a
boxer who's got very little experience. But to Brady's point,
he's fighting. These are these are fighting, they're not fighting
with headcar he dropped. He dropped Fury too. Yeah, it
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dropped him. I mean, you know, dropped him yet. But
I didn't think it could have been someone far in
the front row. Did you Guys used to have fight
parties growing up. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I stopped
that save one's last time we had one of those.
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I mean, bum man, I've watched boxing. I'll watch boxing,
I do too. But but but here's the fight. I
had a gathering for the Haney fight for who right,
Devin Haney? That's okay, yea. Honestly, the last time I
can remember is like it might have been the night
before a game, and it was the Floyd Mayweather Ricky
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hadn't fight, and our whole team was down there like
night before a game. They right out the whole ballroom.
We got it, you know, in and all that, like
that was one of the last fights. Like I remember
going to a Floyd Mayweather fight, like I've always been
a big Floyd fan. I just feel like, I don't
know if it's the lack of I shouldn't say it's
a lack of showmanship, because you do have some characters,
you do have some personalities. It just it almost feels
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like they're not the best. And maybe I'm wrong in
assuming that. Yeah, but it's not it's not as as prominent.
I give you that, Like, I definitely agree with you.
It's not it's not as pronounced. I mean, you mentioned
the Mike Tyson era. Some would say the golden Golden
era was with Sugar Ray, and I'm just saying that's
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like what we grew up in. Yeah, I remember Tyson
knocking I remember being out my uncle's with all his buddies.
I was I should have never been there hearing things
you shouldn't hear when you're like nine years old, and
and like witnessing things. You're going this is this is
not a good environment for a kid. But I remember
him knocking out. I can't I can't think of the
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name of who. It was so fast, someone had called
the cable company. They're like, I want to refund this
is BS, Like, you're gonna make us pay one hundred
bucks for this crap? You know, he's going off on
some poor lady at the cable company or a pay
per view because they didn't want to have to pay
for it because it was like a forty five second fight.
But that, like that was part of the entertainment, like
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watching him knockout dudes and then watching people complain about
the fact that they didn't get to watch for very
much longer. The crazy thing is, is Mike in the
beginning HBO. That's all you had to have. Yeah, all
you had to have is HBO. You got to see Mike.
And not only did you get to see who else
did you get to see? I mean whoever he was fighting? Well,
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I been like, who else was doing the broadcasting for? Oh?
Oh yeah Lampley? Yeah? Uh? Harold? What not? Not? Did
you Larry Merchant? No that you huh, we're going to
leap over the line of scrimmage before the game or
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was it in the moment? Huh? You knew when Larry
Merchant liked you? Because that was actually a good question here.
He really liked to insult you. Why he was asking
you the question, Well, because he was a columnist, like
he was a newspaper guy, so he had to get
his digs in because he thought he was writing a
column and he was in the ring. What were you thinking?
Take us through the sequence of when you saw Mike's
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fist hit you in the rib cage but then your
eyes closed? What what were you thinking when you were
laying on the canvas and was there a reason why
you got back up the first time versus uh, the
second time? People be offended, like what what? Like, Larry,
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that's that's the question you're going to ask the guys
behind him who got a question? That's what you're gonna
ask me, Larry. Really see that said you remember that's
why I don't even like doing HBO. That's why I'm
going to show time. I'm seventy years old. I kick
your ass. Yeah they did say that. Yeah, it's but like,
for example, this weekend, John Jones is back. That's a
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big deal and he's fighting in heavyweight. That's fun. Yeah,
but you don't like it's so rare with and I
love boxing. He had so much momentum too. Let's just
said that the hiatus, like it's kind of like, I
don't know, I don't know how I feel about it,
you know what I mean. But it's like anyway, go ahead.
But it just it just it's different now. Man, boxing,
there's not a I would say this is at least fair.
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Jake Paul has done more to promote boxing events over
the last year to two years than just about anybody
in boxing. Ass it's I'll say this, it's definitely more.
It's more mainstream. It's it's crazy to think that what
what was considered to be kind of gimmicky. It was like, oh,
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social media influencers. Yeah, but then you watch to do
you're watching you know, train and stuff like that, you
start to realize, like, oh, they do have a background
and athletics. You call it what you want both of
them Paul brothers is they they bangers. They bang like,
they will bang where they have power from. Ohio have power.
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He's got a good little left hook, he moon. He's
a tough kid like they will bang. Say what you
want like, he's a tough kid man. Yeah. So I
know a lot of people are taking Victor your laps
this morning. They probably don't like the way he goes
around and promotes. But that's his style too, right, Like,
I don't know that, I always love I mean it
was entertainment to see how Floyd promoted. I don't know that.
I always it has to be. But again it's what
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he has to be. Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that
is what it is. Can we get to the point
where we now, I mean this is I mean this
is must see or a must listened radio. Can we
have Jonasco round by Brown with a scoring Oh wow,
I mean give a little bit of an impersonation as
well along with it. Don't act like you didn't score,
You score the whole thing, all right, So i'd ten nine,
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ford on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold hold on, like like Q queued you up. They'll
just get serious on as like you gotta do the
real version of how you call it in between the rounds,
you know. So looking back at the eight rounds here, Jim,
we had we had Tommy Ferry when the first round
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ten nine just thought he was a little bit more active,
found a home with that job. Gave the second round
to Jake. Paul was a little bit more active himself.
I think he felt a little bit of the pressure,
a little bit of the heat. Third round was a
close one. You could see why it would go either way.
But ultimately I gave it to Tommy Furry in the
third round. And then in between the middle rounds there
you had point deductions. You had Tommy Fiery, you get
a point deduction for holding, you had Jake Paul for
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a blow to the back of the head, no warning shot,
just points taken away. Seventh round pops up Tommy Fury
with the lead. I got him leading head into the
eighth round. Then he goes to the canvas in the
eighth round on a stiff chat from Jake Paul. Slip
or not gloves touched the canvas counts as a knockdown.
Tommy Fury came back, bounce back, much like his brother
against Dante Wilder the first fight when he got knocked down,
won the rest of the round. That would be a
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close round to score, but ultimately that to ten aid
for Jake Paul. Nonetheless, he didn't do enough. I've got
it going to Tommy Fury, Tommy Furry winning five rounds
to three over Jake Paul, and I got Tommy Ferry
winning the fight Jim, it's really good. It's well, it's
really good. It's really good. Jim, that's the other name.
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Told me, Yes, that's not how you saw it. You
thought Jake Paul in a close decision will win. Yeah,
I just like anything close would go to him because
he was the moneymaker. And then I was surprised one
judge did have it to Jake Paul the other two
scored it for Tommy Ferry. I was just surprised. And
that's the other thing when you watch the fight and
you know who won, but you still think the judges
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are going to give it to the other guy because
the money involved. Yeah, it's a little bit of a problem.
So well, everybody bitches about the fact that the NFL
has poor officiating. I mean, at least it's not to
that level where you're like, all right, we know who won,
but we know who's also going to win. And look
for those of you that you know, we're smart and
picked Tommy Ferry by decision that paid out six to one.
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I picked Tommy Fury, bad decision, six to one, but
I didn't I didn't bet it yet, you guy, then
I didn't have a dog in the fight this week.
You took that to six to one. Yeah, I picked that. Yeah,
you know how we do it. That's why Joney's allcited
this morning. Yeah, up on games much? How much I went? Well,
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put that nice little five bucks off, Yeah, nice little
thirty bucks in return. Five. Yeah, roll it up, smoke
it up in hell, I got five. Be sure to
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catch live editions of Two Pros and a Cup of
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Radio and the iHeartRadio Whip. Yeah yeah, Brady, I was.
I was in the weight room this morning. Brady, you
gotta hear this one. Yeah, I just but I just
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rip out like fifteen twenty minutes of a good sweat
on the tread. Tell the story. Tell the story, like
how is that Yaw's opening conversation with one another? Like
we're in Arizona, Like, yeah, I held I propped up,
drop the weight room open. I was hoping that you'd
show up, c like what get on there? Yeah, just
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rip out about twenty sets, twenty rips of ten pound
thumbbells above the head before it came in and do
the show. Feel rip Rady. Now we're breaking down the
inside to the fitness center at the hotel. But I
think we were the only two people that you use
what I walked past that dip It looked like a
storage room, like, oh, that's the weight room. All yeah,
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it was. It was serviceable, serviceable. It was funny to conversate. Yeah.
I walked in. You know, it wasn't the treadmill that
I'm used to, but I worked it out. I got
good ten fifteen minutes. Then I'm like, wait, what's that
must have been Jonas doing the talking. It was I don't.
I don't talk about my workouts with anyone. I just
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work out. No, we were both yeah, no, it was
just you. Now you're talking. Now you asked me, did
you go to work out? Yeah? You did? You did
ask him? He works out? Yeah, yeah. We just started
talking about down like yeah, yeah, I prepped the door open.
I thought you were going to come in and get
it out. So it's done. Man jumped on the treadmill.
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It was like, yeah, it wasn't as fast as I'd
like it to be, but I get it done a million, no,
fifteen swinning smooth like Brady told me one time that
his goal is to be ripped up like a bad
report card. Oh and I said, okay, like I don't
really know what that means, but I'll go with you
on it. And then we started to break down different
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variations of your weights, lighter weights, you know, working on
your intermitting fasting, and then working out on that intermitted
lasting and all the other things that come along with it,
you know, a little e s protein afterward, We're done,
two hundred grams of protein and like, yeah, splash of water.
I mean it's like this is the good stunt shop boy. Yeah,
that's what you need. Yeah, that's how it works. Now
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I'm done. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just like epically like
it's legendary dog you do know that, right? Like wellbody
like no, like that's what I knew you for. Now
We're done. The funny thing is like it was a
really effective marketing campaign where like it had brand recognition.
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It reached pretty much every other meat head out there
that was a big Is that why I knew it? God, Lee,
I was big into it back then. Yeah, like like
that was that was what it was more geared for, right,
It was more geared for a serious athlete and then
what happened was is they realized that the market size
of like those serious athletes small. Yeah, and so then
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they were like, wait a second, we need to make
what's called an RTD ready to drink that someone who's
just driving home from work can go grab at a
gas station, which is, you know, it's a different formula,
and you're kind of obviously trying to appeel to a
different audience. You don't want, you know, that guy thinking like, oh,
I have to run through tire and do all this
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different stuff on there. So then they kind of pivoted
to more of like the oh, we just want to
make like healthier choices when we're coming home from work,
tall like the moms and dad's out there. So it
was a fun campaign while I lasted. Man, it was
like a bunch of a bunch of guys that we
got to get together like once a year and do
it um. But then that kind of ended. So you
were running on the treadmill. Oh yeah, I was like, dang,
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that's a key. It didn't wasn't it your knee banged
up or something for that? Yeah, it was like So
that was one of the first deals I did because
Abbot Labs, which made eas or Body as the brand
is right there in Columbus, Ohio, and so I was
fortunate enough where they reached out and they're like, hey,
this is kind of like a good fit. You know,
he's in the fitness and working out, and this is
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what we're looking at doing. And so it was right
after the Sugar Bowl and I tore my PCL and
they're like, hey, okay, here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna have you start off running on this treadmill. But
it wasn't like a normal treadmill, like you had nothing
to grab onto. It was just a tread that was
running on the ground. And so I did kind of
step up onto this thing and run and I was like, well,
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it's like they're like, how fast we crank it up?
I go. Normally I'd let you carry max it out.
I go, right now, I go, I can't really run,
And so they're like, all right, well we'll try to
work work with it as best we can, Joe. We'll
just try to push it. But it was it was
like a I mean, it was a whole it was
a whole day of filming of doing stuff and this
this big, old like you know stage they had, but
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it was it was a weird deal because I was like,
I really can't run. We're gonna have to like make
this up kind of on the way. I mean, that's
kind of interesting because I can remember the scene like
you were moving really really slow. Yeah. For that reason,
like I literally couldn't run. I just thought he was Yeah,
that's what I thought. I thought it was like on
some like kind of like they're studying like the perfect
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male body. Yeah, and he's spians are always you know yeah.
I mean you've seen his work, those Wendy's commercials. I
love them. Is right or Right? And Oscar season as
well too. I mean this is I mean huge stuff here.
It all adds up things I think probably best lead
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DELAPSI executive producer, he probably piece. I mean, I'm glad
somebody caught onto it like three times. You know, I
hear you. Hey, by the way, you guys ready for luck,
You're ready for a little combine shaming? Who wants some
combine here? Um? So this according to Ian Rappaport. He
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says that Ohio State quarterback CJ. Stroud will throw it
at the combine this week, but alab Alabama quarterback Bryce
Young will wait to do so for his pro day.
Young as long pass his ac joint injury from this season,
but he'll just do interviews in Indianapolis. So CJ. Stroud
already clearly taking a lead in the battle to go
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number one overall as far as quarterbacks go, and also
pointed out by Tom hellis there yeah now, but this
is but people are this is what this happen. Happens
during combine week. Everyone looks at this and says, well,
what has he got to hide? I mean, what why
Katie throw in front of people like it? Does he
want to get showed up by everybody else there? Like?
This is where these conversations go. Also Anthony Richardson, who's
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got a Holtzer attached to his right shoulder, he will
he plans to throw and do all testing and drills
per source and a showcase. As Tom Pella Sero points out,
he's one of the guys that everyone's looking to see
perform and put on some of these talents on display.
So that's the quarterback situation at the Combine coming up
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this week. This strout can throw all anyone's gonna talk
about Richardson once he gets done. I mean, the way
he can move, the way he can throw the football,
it's gonna be something special, telling you. And that's look
the combine and throwing at the combines irrelevant. I mean,
these guys can do what they can do. And again,
the game of football, Bryce Young has nothing, nothing to
prove out there. It's just, you know, it's a made
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for TV event. You know, some guys want to go
out there and do it. They feel like they can
help improve their draft stock and that other guys feel
like it's not necessary. For a guy like Anthony Richardson,
he really doesn't have much to lose because he easy
going to come away with everyone talking about so favorably.
Like that's one of the biggest things too. I think
you see nowadays that the combine is they talk pretty
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favorably about all these guys because the guys don't have
to perform. They choose to. I mean, if they really
wanted to, they wouldn't have to do anything other than
the medical evaluations and the interviews like that was the
initial purpose of the combine. So every single time this
time of year, we start trying to make this more
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than it is, and you've got less teams sending coaches
to it. Think about that for a second. If it
was so important, why are more and more teams not
even sending their coaching staffs Because it's not. It used
to be something that was useful or purposeful for coaches
and scouts and everyone alike. And then NFL maybe we're like,
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what what a sucker? Are we gonna make money off this? Huh, Well,
let's just make this a make for T made for
TV event, And and now the whole entire format is
set up to basically showed on TV. It's not in
the best interest of the players performing, who are going
out there and doing drills and running and all that.
It's not in the best interest of the coaches trying
to get information meeting with the kids, and so you see,
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there's less involvement. But that's that's the direction the NFL
wants to head. So when these guys do perform, for
the most part, you are gonna hear every single analyst
talk them up. That's just part of the part of
the deal when they sign up for it. Unless there's
like a you know, you know, Chris Jones situation, what
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happened there, then they might talk him up in a
different way. You may talk him out what you mean well,
or talk talk him out what I mean. Who hasn't
had a bag of tangerines break at the produce and
it's it's difficult when the Indiapolis Zoo has a baby
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elephant that getsine supposed to do. That's let me ask
you a serious question, though serious question. If you're falling
at the bottom of your clothes blows out, are you
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breaking your fall? Or are you or are you? Are
you covering the hole? Like are you filling the gap
or are you breaking your fall? I'm protecting uh downstairs.
So you just gonna get the face out. Yeah, I'll
give the face up and I'll take it another second
and a half off my forty if what you do
what you do. I'm still trying to figure out the
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physics behind how it popped out anyway, Like it's one
thing like man, was he sagging and that's how like
it ended up just sliding down falling off. I mean,
that's spandex. That stuff's on there tight. I mean you
try and you try and wrap a sumo wrestler and
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saran wrap and see whether or not that's going to
burst through the best some things or not, the best
part of that, of the entire commentary, was seeing Chris
Jones get up and tell the guy what happened, and
the guy looked at him kind of like, yeah, Chris,
we know everyone saw it. We're very aware that it
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fell out under the course of we understand answer. We
everybody saw it. Everyone saw it. Yeah, I was actually
fifty yards away. I saw it. My God, sound the alarm.
To answer your question, LaVar, would I would have tried
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to grab my junk and not like, let it just
fall out. Like, I'm not really sure how it all
transpired the way it did. Oh Man, Look at no
point did he realize the whole thing's coming out. I
just feel like I think in that moment, I gotta
go ahead and break my fall. I gotta get my
hands out in front of me and try to break
my fault. I just I really do. And as he's
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adjusting himself, he tells him, yeah, hey, it fell out.
Now we thought you were carrying nun shocks. Thank you, Chris.
That wasn't a barbell, Okay you had in your pants.
We were really sure what's going on. Here's the thing.
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He's a fantastic player. Would you say he's a top
two or three interior alignment in the hop two. Yeah,
and he was the best this year because Donald was
hurting the top two for sure. And all I think
about is that I can't get over history, can't get
over it. I want to be in the meeting after
that combine where someone's like, oh, and by the way,
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should we maybe figure out some clothes to give these
guys where I don't know, that doesn't happen again, like
maybe we should give them a unitard? So like they're
just they're just sitting there like we're taking that guy.
Everybody at the stadium was like, but we could go
get some drinks. Now we're we're taking that guy. I'm
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so good something was there was actually a good forty
up until that point, which I mean it made it
historic at that all right, Chris, do you want to
run another one? I'm good? No, I said, Chris. You
could go back to your room. You don't have to
do anything, no interviews, know nothing. Uh yeah. And with
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the number one overall pick, the short white guy's face
is just shocked, like, yeah, men are real. Wait a second,
well wait saying why are three people running? Who's not
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on the person. Hey, get off that guy's shoulders, rich
eyes and rich eyes and trying to keep it clean lazy.
He ses, whoa, all right, ain't gonna go to break.
We're gonna go to break. That is That's one where
like we need to get Mike mayak On to get
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his whole perspective on that, because that's something like you
just you don't ever think it's gonna happen in broadcasting,
and it happens on live TV, and you how we're
gonna handle this Just there's nothing you can do except
applaud hey man, enjoy the ride. They're going viral. But
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by the way, what if they do a football life
on him after his career is over and he's probably
a Hall of Famer. If that's not part of it,
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get your podcasts. Rich give me a hell. Yeah, So
it is Combine week. You know what that means? Tis
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the season for rumors and reports? Yeah. According to Adam Schefter,
sources have told him that these Chicago Bears have already
been approached by multiple teams about trading the number one
overall pick, and Chicago is said to be quote leaning
towards moving the pick. So the number one pick now
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looks like it's for sale dot dot dot. So there
it is. That is your stunner that the Bears might
actually roll with Justin Fields moving forward and trade out
of that number one pick for another draft spot lower
in the in the first round, potentially the Houston Texans
who are sitting at two. You've also got the Colts
at four, both quarterback needy teams. They've also got teams
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like the Raiders. Anybody from the NFC South could possibly
be interested in wanting to move up to make a
move there. So that is the report and rumor out
of the draft combine from Adam Schefter there. So there
you go. There's these and who are the interested teams? Jonas,
that would be the Indianapolis Colts, the Houston Texans, and
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anybody else that's looking for that quarterback that wants to
jump up there. It feels like if they still wanted
to get Jalen Carter, you'd probably have to move back
one spot because would he even be there at number four? Well,
you can get Jayleen Carter or Will Anderson. I think
you'll have the chance to get one of the two
depending on how the whole thing shakes out. But I
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think the interesting thing about it is, you know, when
you're presented with the number one overall pick, it's a
difficult decision when you've got a quarterback that you didn't draft.
I mean, ultimately, that was Ryan Pace's draft pick, so
you don't have any ties to him, and I think
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you can. You can. You know, you could sit there
and say, well, oh, Bryce Young's a better prospect, and
whatever the case is. It could simply just be like, hey,
it's not the guy that I would have drafted for
this football team. And I appreciate what he's done in
the past couple of years. But if I wanted to
move on from Justin Fields, you know, I'd go that route.
The problem is is, I think he probably couldn't find
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any suitors that looked at Justin Fields as highly as
they might internally because of how Justin Fields has been
able to weather the storm the past couple of seasons
with everything he's gone through, and he has improved and
he is one of the league's best rushers. And even
though his poking passes, you know, pocket passing isn't where
it needs to be. Neither is their protection, neither is
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the supporting cast around him. So I think all those
things would help improve his play. And you know, if
you're sitting there, you're kind of thinking yourself, all right, like,
do we really want to move move on from a
guy just to bring in a younger guy who's not
gonna be as close to that second contract that we
think will work out well? But maybe not. But I
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think the first part of this soul discussion is the
Bears have the chance to, you know, make a decision
with whether they want to use that pick or trade
Justin Fields and go find his replacement. And they've obviously
decided that Justin Fields is their guy and they'd rather
help support him and build out around him as opposed
to starting over with another quarterback. I think whatever side
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anyone were to fall on, that's I mean, if they
decided that they wanted to go in a different direction,
whichever one it is, just give give the young man
the grace and the opportunity to know what he's up
against or what he's got coming down the lane. Because
for all the things you just mentioned, I don't find
him to be culpable for the way this team has
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played over the last you know, a couple of years.
So if you were going to stay with him, this
is the right move you that you let people know.
If you're not going to stay with him, it's the
right move because you let people know so that he
has a fair opportunity in this this situation and and
not to me, that's that's kind of where I fall
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on it. Do you think it is Bryce Young the
type of talent that you would trade Justin Fields right
now to take number one? If if he were, they
would do it. If he were, they would do it.
Because but but again it's it's it's everything that Q
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was saying. Why would you bring a young player, whether
he's a stud franchise guy or not, and bring him
into a scenario where you know that that that quarterback
doesn't have the tools in place to be able to
be the player that that you're drafting. It's it's just
you're wasting another top on top draft pick on on
the same position when you might already have that in
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Justin Fields if you were to just build the team
up where he has a fair opportunity for success. So
I like when people point out we'll look at Justin
Fields win loss record, Okay, well, good for God's sakes,
I mean, what what is it's not it's not a
quarterback stat. It's so funny that we do that with
quarterbacks but no other position on the field. It's like, well, okay, well,
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because they have a big impact on it, they're still
not on the field for deef to play defense or
special teams. I mean, he's on a supporting cast that
I think has probably bottom two in the league. Yes, hey,
I mean well it's look again, in the context of
you know, the NFL. They're all professional football players, all right,
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I'm not trying to say that, you know, they all
can't play football. But to the other teams, yeah, compared
to hey, we we you know, if you want to
compare them to a Super Bowl champ like the Kansa
City Chiefs, they don't have as good of a roster.
I mean it's pretty simple. And by the way, you
remember that Monday night game they won at Foxborough when
they beat the Patriots. Remember that they beat the Patriots
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and there was the Bailey's Appy mac Jones fiasco that
was going on there. Remember Brisker had the interception. Yeah,
that was the last game the Bears won last year.
Like they never won another game afterwards, and Justin Fields
got better as the year went on. And they still
want to ask you, guys this, if Patrick Mahomes we're
playing for the Chicago Bears, how much better would they
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be a couple of games? There's nothing there Q A
couple of games. I think they'd be better, but not
that much better like that. That's the reality is. It's
just they don't you know, you still need talent, you
still need all those pieces around you, you know, a
supportive organization. And that's the tough part is you know, yeah,
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he'd help improve, but it wouldn't It wouldn't be like,
oh they'd be a super Bowl winning team. How far
away are they from being a really good team if
you had If you have a Pat Mahomes on the team,
you still need to know a line sting receivers, Like
I'd worry about his health, but he has a good
old line now and he's hampered by ankle injury. So
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then that proves the point. Then then you keep a
mobile quarterback that has the ability to throw the ball
and you build the rest of your team up Like
there it is. That's the debate settled. Like just think
about what we just said. And look, I think they're
number one in salary cap space because they just shed
it as much as they possibly could, whether it was
Khalil Mack and Roquan Smith and Robert Quinn last year,
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they just gutted everybody and they've got the number one
overall pick and then they've got a bunch of salary
cap space. So they're going to be improved because it's
hard to be that much worse. But yeah, the idea
that's going to be a quick fix there, I think
it's crazy like they this is a full almost a
complete tear down and rebuild for them, and now you
just see who's gonna annie up and want to make
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the move. And the fact that you've got two teams
in the AFC South sitting at two and four that
both need quarterbacks, that could be where the stole thing
gets interesting, a little bidding war there. Yeah, And look,
so my general point is Ryan Pools, the general manager
for the Bears, had a decision to make and he's
coming to the conclusion now where and this is usually
the timing of it because you know, and just so
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people behind the scenes, no going to the combines. Fun
for people in broadcasting, and it used to be fun
for coaches everyone else because you get to mix it up.
You know, late at nights, you're going to steakhouses, you're
having some drinks, you're talking on maybe some coaches, some scouts,
some general managers, and you get to kind of mix
up with them. It's not really like that anymore because
(37:35):
of the timing and testing or all this stuff. So
unfortunately that doesn't work out quite the way it used to.
But one of the things that still does go on
is you bump into a lot of people with other teams,
and so you start discussing potentially what a trade scenario
would look like, whether it be the draft or certain
players on your roster right there might be under contract
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I want to go somewhere else. It all starts at
the combine, you know, even though it's made out to
be about this next year's rookie draft class, it's not.
It's it really starts the business for the NFL, for
the new league year. All those conversations start now. Or
Jay Glazer told us on Fox Sports Radio a few
years ago. He said that he knows multiple times of
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trades that were discussed and agreed to while both parties
were hammered at dinner, and then the next morning they realized, yeah,
I don't think we want to do that deal. Yeah,
I see either. And it just like that's that's where
this stuff happens. There's all sorts of networking and all
these other potential opportunities for trades and movements around the league.
So and by the way, who doesn't who doesn't like
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watching the combine? It's fun, all right, Like it's fun
to see everybody, you know, throw the ball around and
not everybody's going to throw up two twenty five twenty
eight times like Brady Quinn did at his draft day.
But for the people number, I mean, you're making stuff upright, Okay,
how many how many times was it? I don't know,
twenty five twenty six times? Lee? Can we look that up.
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I'm almost positive it was two twenty five, like twenty
six times something like that. That's all right, that doesn't
sound true. It is a lot. It's a lot. Two
twenty five. I mean you get to twenty six. You
if you get to twenty like, that's if you get that.
If you get the eighteen seventeen as a skill guy,
you're a beast. Yeah. Hey, let's go live to our
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I know how many reps Brady Quinn put up at
two twenty five at the Combine Insider lead to lot
for the latest one, that would be officially twenty four
pep patt it man two twenty five, twenty four times,
it's a lot. Now we're done. Berto, Would I get
any praise from you for those sort of reps? Yeah,
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it is two pse. You're not gonna hit the button
on Jonas means yes, I mean what do you mean? Yeah?
I mean but he said it? No, yeah, dump or anything?
Oh wow, yeah, how does that offend you? He just
makes up his own whatever are you talking about? Such
(40:14):
a Hey? First of all, Berto, you know I know
my stuff when it comes to the Mexican culture guy
who's inchecting him the question, Oh gosh, how dare you?
I would touch on what you just said. You but
I've already been dumped once before today. I almost let
(40:38):
something out that was gonna be a dumb bull hipto quota.
There you go, by the way, I got. Somebody responded
on Friday. Remember when there was a question about whether
or not Brady said the S word and he got
dumped early in the show. I went back and listened.
He did not. He did not say these We just,
you know, we wanted to be be careful and be saved.
(41:00):
So I thought he did I said something. Yeah, yeah,
I would have heard it. I'd have been like, oh,
you know me, I like to catch words like that
and just be like, oh, it's been sitting on my
tongue for a while because Jonas keeps going the same
route with the whole Knox skin thing, and I just
I was sitting on Yeah, what's sitting on there? I
(41:22):
just does it rhyme with Knox? No, okay, it rhymes
with like legging? Oh wow, okay, Oh Jesus, oh wow.
I mean, I never mean, I just I've never pegged
(41:48):
you to be like this sort of broadcaster, but now
that we're here, I never I never pegged him be
this one. You know, I think he kind of did.
Well maybe maybe now, maybe I didn't tag you. By
the way, by the way, you are correct. That is
that is absolutely correct. It is two pros and a
(42:08):
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a little hodgepodge of a sports weekend. Huh, Little college
basketball had some buzzer beaters. Little NBA Dame Lillard scores
(00:22):
seventy one. Had he had a boxing match, you had
a spring training start. The Pauls finally took a nail. Huh. Yeah.
Fight storyline though, yeah, it was a good fight. Though
it wasn't a good fight. I mean, you watched it,
so I'm curious to have you tell everyone what you
took from it. Because after you said that, I was like,
all right, let's just go see. And this is a
(00:43):
terrible exercise. So I wouldn't recommend anyone to do this.
Let's just go see a Twitter ask to say there
were people taking victory laps like they were Tommy Fury right,
and they beat Jake Paul right, which my first thing
is like, what do you like him or not? You
have to respect the fact that the kid gets in
the ring, he hasn't been knocked out yet, and he
(01:06):
has developed into a boxer. Like you might not think
it's good boxing, that's fine, he's young. He just started
doing this. It's not like he was bred his entire
life to go be a boxer. And he was on
Disney like when he was twelve years old. So I mean,
you have to respect the fact that he's willing to
get in the ring. He hasn't been knocked down yet.
(01:27):
He's obviously a tough kid. He works his tail off
just to put himself in that position. And like it
or not, he's kind of brought back boxing, like we're
talking about it right now. Right, Yeah, let's not get
carried away. But there's some dope boxers out there that
that's carried But you know what, no one care, Like, Okay,
(01:48):
this passable kid. I think there has to be more.
I know what you're saying. It does cross a cross
is a tyson. Fury called himself the greatest heavyweight of
all time. Yeah, and here's the thing is, you know,
I don't know where you're going. Well, just people, you
know that there's a lot of time fantastic. So here's
(02:10):
what I'd say, is come, whether he is or he isn't.
Even if he was, there's not many people paying attention
to legit real boxing anymore. It's very seldom, like, come on, man,
like we grew up in the area of Mike Tyson. Yeah,
like there's no like, there's nothing to me that even compares.
Like I don't even go as far as saying like
Floyd Mayweather, like some of the pack, some of the
(02:32):
guys who have like transitioned. There's some really great fighters
right now. It's just not the same but doesn't have
the same feeling. I'm sorry. Yeah, there's some I mean
Tank Tank Davis and you know there there there's some
guys that that Garcia, that Garcia fight, that's gonna be
Ryan Garcia, that's gonna be I mean, you have to
be into boxing to know, like, you know, Earl Spence
(02:55):
is out there, Crawford is out there. I mean, they're
smaller guys. It's not I will say, the heavyweights have
always been the ones that people have leaned on for
the sport to be what it is. So I get it.
But hell, Jake Paul isn't a He's not a heavyweight.
They're they're cruisers. Somebody talking about him. Yeah, I mean
we are talking about him. We are talking about him,
(03:16):
like the Davis, the Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia fight just
got announced for a ye, I'm gonna be there. Here's
the problem. It's so rare now that any of these
fights actually happen that that's not worthy. That's that's gonna happen.
I mean, if it's not Canello or it's not you know,
Ryan Garcia, Tank Davis. I was at the Canelo Floyd fight.
(03:37):
Imagine that it's fantastic. Oh man, But like those are
your money makers, and those are the guys that draw,
and there's just not a real big draw anymore, and
you can't trust in any of these fights are gonna
get done. The fact that Terence Crawford Errol Spence hasn't
happened is a disgrace. And it's because boxing is fractured.
You've got different promoters. You can, like, people can say
(03:58):
whatever they want about Dane White in the UFC. You
know the problem with boxing in comparison to the UFC.
Boxing may have a great main event, but the undercard sucks.
It's brutal. In the UFC, you have legitimate undercards because
it's all under the same umbrella. You don't have different
promoters fighting. And we didn't get our deal. We want to.
We want a sixty forty not a fifty fifty all
(04:19):
the other crap that comes along with it. At least
you know Jake Paul's promoting it. Yes, he's fighting, you know,
some older MMA guys, and now he just fought a
boxer who's got very little experience. But to Brady's point,
he's fighting. These are these are fighting, they're not fighting
with headcar he dropped. He dropped Fury too. Yeah, it
(04:41):
dropped him. I mean, you know, dropped him yet. But
I didn't think it could have been someone far in
the front row. Did you Guys used to have fight
parties growing up. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I stopped
that save one's last time we had one of those.
(05:02):
I mean, bum man, I've watched boxing. I'll watch boxing,
I do too. But but but here's the fight. I
had a gathering for the Haney fight for who right,
Devin Haney? That's okay, yea. Honestly, the last time I
can remember is like it might have been the night
before a game, and it was the Floyd Mayweather Ricky
(05:24):
hadn't fight, and our whole team was down there like
night before a game. They right out the whole ballroom.
We got it, you know, in and all that, like
that was one of the last fights. Like I remember
going to a Floyd Mayweather fight, like I've always been
a big Floyd fan. I just feel like, I don't
know if it's the lack of I shouldn't say it's
a lack of showmanship, because you do have some characters,
you do have some personalities. It just it almost feels
(05:47):
like they're not the best. And maybe I'm wrong in
assuming that. Yeah, but it's not it's not as as prominent.
I give you that, Like, I definitely agree with you.
It's not it's not as pronounced. I mean, you mentioned
the Mike Tyson era. Some would say the golden Golden
era was with Sugar Ray, and I'm just saying that's
(06:09):
like what we grew up in. Yeah, I remember Tyson
knocking I remember being out my uncle's with all his buddies.
I was I should have never been there hearing things
you shouldn't hear when you're like nine years old, and
and like witnessing things. You're going this is this is
not a good environment for a kid. But I remember
him knocking out. I can't I can't think of the
(06:32):
name of who. It was so fast, someone had called
the cable company. They're like, I want to refund this
is BS, Like, you're gonna make us pay one hundred
bucks for this crap? You know, he's going off on
some poor lady at the cable company or a pay
per view because they didn't want to have to pay
for it because it was like a forty five second fight.
But that, like that was part of the entertainment, like
(06:53):
watching him knockout dudes and then watching people complain about
the fact that they didn't get to watch for very
much longer. The crazy thing is, is Mike in the
beginning HBO. That's all you had to have. Yeah, all
you had to have is HBO. You got to see Mike.
And not only did you get to see who else
did you get to see? I mean whoever he was fighting? Well,
(07:13):
I been like, who else was doing the broadcasting for? Oh?
Oh yeah Lampley? Yeah? Uh? Harold? What not? Not? Did
you Larry Merchant? No that you huh, we're going to
leap over the line of scrimmage before the game or
(07:38):
was it in the moment? Huh? You knew when Larry
Merchant liked you? Because that was actually a good question here.
He really liked to insult you. Why he was asking
you the question, Well, because he was a columnist, like
he was a newspaper guy, so he had to get
his digs in because he thought he was writing a
column and he was in the ring. What were you thinking?
Take us through the sequence of when you saw Mike's
(08:03):
fist hit you in the rib cage but then your
eyes closed? What what were you thinking when you were
laying on the canvas and was there a reason why
you got back up the first time versus uh, the
second time? People be offended, like what what? Like, Larry,
(08:24):
that's that's the question you're going to ask the guys
behind him who got a question? That's what you're gonna
ask me, Larry. Really see that said you remember that's
why I don't even like doing HBO. That's why I'm
going to show time. I'm seventy years old. I kick
your ass. Yeah they did say that. Yeah, it's but like,
for example, this weekend, John Jones is back. That's a
(08:47):
big deal and he's fighting in heavyweight. That's fun. Yeah,
but you don't like it's so rare with and I
love boxing. He had so much momentum too. Let's just
said that the hiatus, like it's kind of like, I
don't know, I don't know how I feel about it,
you know what I mean. But it's like anyway, go ahead.
But it just it just it's different now. Man, boxing,
there's not a I would say this is at least fair.
(09:10):
Jake Paul has done more to promote boxing events over
the last year to two years than just about anybody
in boxing. Ass it's I'll say this, it's definitely more.
It's more mainstream. It's it's crazy to think that what
what was considered to be kind of gimmicky. It was like, oh,
(09:31):
social media influencers. Yeah, but then you watch to do
you're watching you know, train and stuff like that, you
start to realize, like, oh, they do have a background
and athletics. You call it what you want both of
them Paul brothers is they they bangers. They bang like,
they will bang where they have power from. Ohio have power.
(09:51):
He's got a good little left hook, he moon. He's
a tough kid like they will bang. Say what you
want like, he's a tough kid man. Yeah. So I
know a lot of people are taking Victor your laps
this morning. They probably don't like the way he goes
around and promotes. But that's his style too, right, Like,
I don't know that, I always love I mean it
was entertainment to see how Floyd promoted. I don't know that.
I always it has to be. But again it's what
(10:13):
he has to be. Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that
is what it is. Can we get to the point
where we now, I mean this is I mean this
is must see or a must listened radio. Can we
have Jonasco round by Brown with a scoring Oh wow,
I mean give a little bit of an impersonation as
well along with it. Don't act like you didn't score,
You score the whole thing, all right, So i'd ten nine,
(10:34):
ford on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold hold on, like like Q queued you up. They'll
just get serious on as like you gotta do the
real version of how you call it in between the rounds,
you know. So looking back at the eight rounds here, Jim,
we had we had Tommy Ferry when the first round
(10:54):
ten nine just thought he was a little bit more active,
found a home with that job. Gave the second round
to Jake. Paul was a little bit more active himself.
I think he felt a little bit of the pressure,
a little bit of the heat. Third round was a
close one. You could see why it would go either way.
But ultimately I gave it to Tommy Furry in the
third round. And then in between the middle rounds there
you had point deductions. You had Tommy Fiery, you get
a point deduction for holding, you had Jake Paul for
(11:15):
a blow to the back of the head, no warning shot,
just points taken away. Seventh round pops up Tommy Fury
with the lead. I got him leading head into the
eighth round. Then he goes to the canvas in the
eighth round on a stiff chat from Jake Paul. Slip
or not gloves touched the canvas counts as a knockdown.
Tommy Fury came back, bounce back, much like his brother
against Dante Wilder the first fight when he got knocked down,
won the rest of the round. That would be a
(11:37):
close round to score, but ultimately that to ten aid
for Jake Paul. Nonetheless, he didn't do enough. I've got
it going to Tommy Fury, Tommy Furry winning five rounds
to three over Jake Paul, and I got Tommy Ferry
winning the fight Jim, it's really good. It's well, it's
really good. It's really good. Jim, that's the other name.
(11:59):
Told me, Yes, that's not how you saw it. You
thought Jake Paul in a close decision will win. Yeah,
I just like anything close would go to him because
he was the moneymaker. And then I was surprised one
judge did have it to Jake Paul the other two
scored it for Tommy Ferry. I was just surprised. And
that's the other thing when you watch the fight and
you know who won, but you still think the judges
(12:19):
are going to give it to the other guy because
the money involved. Yeah, it's a little bit of a problem.
So well, everybody bitches about the fact that the NFL
has poor officiating. I mean, at least it's not to
that level where you're like, all right, we know who won,
but we know who's also going to win. And look
for those of you that you know, we're smart and
picked Tommy Ferry by decision that paid out six to one.
(12:42):
I picked Tommy Fury, bad decision, six to one, but
I didn't I didn't bet it yet, you guy, then
I didn't have a dog in the fight this week.
You took that to six to one. Yeah, I picked that. Yeah,
you know how we do it. That's why Joney's allcited
this morning. Yeah, up on games much? How much I went? Well,
(13:02):
put that nice little five bucks off, Yeah, nice little
thirty bucks in return. Five. Yeah, roll it up, smoke
it up in hell, I got five. Be sure to
(13:23):
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Radio and the iHeartRadio Whip. Yeah yeah, Brady, I was.
I was in the weight room this morning. Brady, you
gotta hear this one. Yeah, I just but I just
(13:44):
rip out like fifteen twenty minutes of a good sweat
on the tread. Tell the story. Tell the story, like
how is that Yaw's opening conversation with one another? Like
we're in Arizona, Like, yeah, I held I propped up,
drop the weight room open. I was hoping that you'd
show up, c like what get on there? Yeah, just
(14:07):
rip out about twenty sets, twenty rips of ten pound
thumbbells above the head before it came in and do
the show. Feel rip Rady. Now we're breaking down the
inside to the fitness center at the hotel. But I
think we were the only two people that you use
what I walked past that dip It looked like a
storage room, like, oh, that's the weight room. All yeah,
(14:29):
it was. It was serviceable, serviceable. It was funny to conversate. Yeah.
I walked in. You know, it wasn't the treadmill that
I'm used to, but I worked it out. I got
good ten fifteen minutes. Then I'm like, wait, what's that
must have been Jonas doing the talking. It was I don't.
I don't talk about my workouts with anyone. I just
(14:50):
work out. No, we were both yeah, no, it was
just you. Now you're talking. Now you asked me, did
you go to work out? Yeah? You did? You did
ask him? He works out? Yeah, yeah. We just started
talking about down like yeah, yeah, I prepped the door open.
I thought you were going to come in and get
it out. So it's done. Man jumped on the treadmill.
(15:12):
It was like, yeah, it wasn't as fast as I'd
like it to be, but I get it done a million, no,
fifteen swinning smooth like Brady told me one time that
his goal is to be ripped up like a bad
report card. Oh and I said, okay, like I don't
really know what that means, but I'll go with you
on it. And then we started to break down different
(15:33):
variations of your weights, lighter weights, you know, working on
your intermitting fasting, and then working out on that intermitted
lasting and all the other things that come along with it,
you know, a little e s protein afterward, We're done,
two hundred grams of protein and like, yeah, splash of water.
I mean it's like this is the good stunt shop boy. Yeah,
that's what you need. Yeah, that's how it works. Now
(15:55):
I'm done. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just like epically like
it's legendary dog you do know that, right? Like wellbody
like no, like that's what I knew you for. Now
We're done. The funny thing is like it was a
really effective marketing campaign where like it had brand recognition.
(16:16):
It reached pretty much every other meat head out there
that was a big Is that why I knew it? God, Lee,
I was big into it back then. Yeah, like like
that was that was what it was more geared for, right,
It was more geared for a serious athlete and then
what happened was is they realized that the market size
of like those serious athletes small. Yeah, and so then
(16:39):
they were like, wait a second, we need to make
what's called an RTD ready to drink that someone who's
just driving home from work can go grab at a
gas station, which is, you know, it's a different formula,
and you're kind of obviously trying to appeel to a
different audience. You don't want, you know, that guy thinking like, oh,
I have to run through tire and do all this
(17:00):
different stuff on there. So then they kind of pivoted
to more of like the oh, we just want to
make like healthier choices when we're coming home from work,
tall like the moms and dad's out there. So it
was a fun campaign while I lasted. Man, it was
like a bunch of a bunch of guys that we
got to get together like once a year and do
it um. But then that kind of ended. So you
were running on the treadmill. Oh yeah, I was like, dang,
(17:23):
that's a key. It didn't wasn't it your knee banged
up or something for that? Yeah, it was like So
that was one of the first deals I did because
Abbot Labs, which made eas or Body as the brand
is right there in Columbus, Ohio, and so I was
fortunate enough where they reached out and they're like, hey,
this is kind of like a good fit. You know,
he's in the fitness and working out, and this is
(17:44):
what we're looking at doing. And so it was right
after the Sugar Bowl and I tore my PCL and
they're like, hey, okay, here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna have you start off running on this treadmill. But
it wasn't like a normal treadmill, like you had nothing
to grab onto. It was just a tread that was
running on the ground. And so I did kind of
step up onto this thing and run and I was like, well,
(18:05):
it's like they're like, how fast we crank it up?
I go. Normally I'd let you carry max it out.
I go, right now, I go, I can't really run,
And so they're like, all right, well we'll try to
work work with it as best we can, Joe. We'll
just try to push it. But it was it was
like a I mean, it was a whole it was
a whole day of filming of doing stuff and this
this big, old like you know stage they had, but
(18:26):
it was it was a weird deal because I was like,
I really can't run. We're gonna have to like make
this up kind of on the way. I mean, that's
kind of interesting because I can remember the scene like
you were moving really really slow. Yeah. For that reason,
like I literally couldn't run. I just thought he was Yeah,
that's what I thought. I thought it was like on
some like kind of like they're studying like the perfect
(18:46):
male body. Yeah, and he's spians are always you know yeah.
I mean you've seen his work, those Wendy's commercials. I
love them. Is right or Right? And Oscar season as
well too. I mean this is I mean huge stuff here.
It all adds up things I think probably best lead
(19:07):
DELAPSI executive producer, he probably piece. I mean, I'm glad
somebody caught onto it like three times. You know, I
hear you. Hey, by the way, you guys ready for luck,
You're ready for a little combine shaming? Who wants some
combine here? Um? So this according to Ian Rappaport. He
(19:31):
says that Ohio State quarterback CJ. Stroud will throw it
at the combine this week, but alab Alabama quarterback Bryce
Young will wait to do so for his pro day.
Young as long pass his ac joint injury from this season,
but he'll just do interviews in Indianapolis. So CJ. Stroud
already clearly taking a lead in the battle to go
(19:52):
number one overall as far as quarterbacks go, and also
pointed out by Tom hellis there yeah now, but this
is but people are this is what this happen. Happens
during combine week. Everyone looks at this and says, well,
what has he got to hide? I mean, what why
Katie throw in front of people like it? Does he
want to get showed up by everybody else there? Like?
This is where these conversations go. Also Anthony Richardson, who's
(20:14):
got a Holtzer attached to his right shoulder, he will
he plans to throw and do all testing and drills
per source and a showcase. As Tom Pella Sero points out,
he's one of the guys that everyone's looking to see
perform and put on some of these talents on display.
So that's the quarterback situation at the Combine coming up
(20:36):
this week. This strout can throw all anyone's gonna talk
about Richardson once he gets done. I mean, the way
he can move, the way he can throw the football,
it's gonna be something special, telling you. And that's look
the combine and throwing at the combines irrelevant. I mean,
these guys can do what they can do. And again,
the game of football, Bryce Young has nothing, nothing to
prove out there. It's just, you know, it's a made
(20:58):
for TV event. You know, some guys want to go
out there and do it. They feel like they can
help improve their draft stock and that other guys feel
like it's not necessary. For a guy like Anthony Richardson,
he really doesn't have much to lose because he easy
going to come away with everyone talking about so favorably.
Like that's one of the biggest things too. I think
you see nowadays that the combine is they talk pretty
(21:19):
favorably about all these guys because the guys don't have
to perform. They choose to. I mean, if they really
wanted to, they wouldn't have to do anything other than
the medical evaluations and the interviews like that was the
initial purpose of the combine. So every single time this
time of year, we start trying to make this more
(21:39):
than it is, and you've got less teams sending coaches
to it. Think about that for a second. If it
was so important, why are more and more teams not
even sending their coaching staffs Because it's not. It used
to be something that was useful or purposeful for coaches
and scouts and everyone alike. And then NFL maybe we're like,
(22:01):
what what a sucker? Are we gonna make money off this? Huh, Well,
let's just make this a make for T made for
TV event, And and now the whole entire format is
set up to basically showed on TV. It's not in
the best interest of the players performing, who are going
out there and doing drills and running and all that.
It's not in the best interest of the coaches trying
to get information meeting with the kids, and so you see,
(22:22):
there's less involvement. But that's that's the direction the NFL
wants to head. So when these guys do perform, for
the most part, you are gonna hear every single analyst
talk them up. That's just part of the part of
the deal when they sign up for it. Unless there's
like a you know, you know, Chris Jones situation, what
(22:44):
happened there, then they might talk him up in a
different way. You may talk him out what you mean well,
or talk talk him out what I mean. Who hasn't
had a bag of tangerines break at the produce and
it's it's difficult when the Indiapolis Zoo has a baby
(23:04):
elephant that getsine supposed to do. That's let me ask
you a serious question, though serious question. If you're falling
at the bottom of your clothes blows out, are you
(23:25):
breaking your fall? Or are you or are you? Are
you covering the hole? Like are you filling the gap
or are you breaking your fall? I'm protecting uh downstairs.
So you just gonna get the face out. Yeah, I'll
give the face up and I'll take it another second
and a half off my forty if what you do
what you do. I'm still trying to figure out the
(23:48):
physics behind how it popped out anyway, Like it's one
thing like man, was he sagging and that's how like
it ended up just sliding down falling off. I mean,
that's spandex. That stuff's on there tight. I mean you
try and you try and wrap a sumo wrestler and
(24:08):
saran wrap and see whether or not that's going to
burst through the best some things or not, the best
part of that, of the entire commentary, was seeing Chris
Jones get up and tell the guy what happened, and
the guy looked at him kind of like, yeah, Chris,
we know everyone saw it. We're very aware that it
(24:29):
fell out under the course of we understand answer. We
everybody saw it. Everyone saw it. Yeah, I was actually
fifty yards away. I saw it. My God, sound the alarm.
To answer your question, LaVar, would I would have tried
(24:53):
to grab my junk and not like, let it just
fall out. Like, I'm not really sure how it all
transpired the way it did. Oh Man, Look at no
point did he realize the whole thing's coming out. I
just feel like I think in that moment, I gotta
go ahead and break my fall. I gotta get my
hands out in front of me and try to break
my fault. I just I really do. And as he's
(25:14):
adjusting himself, he tells him, yeah, hey, it fell out.
Now we thought you were carrying nun shocks. Thank you, Chris.
That wasn't a barbell, Okay you had in your pants.
We were really sure what's going on. Here's the thing.
(25:34):
He's a fantastic player. Would you say he's a top
two or three interior alignment in the hop two. Yeah,
and he was the best this year because Donald was
hurting the top two for sure. And all I think
about is that I can't get over history, can't get
over it. I want to be in the meeting after
that combine where someone's like, oh, and by the way,
(25:57):
should we maybe figure out some clothes to give these
guys where I don't know, that doesn't happen again, like
maybe we should give them a unitard? So like they're
just they're just sitting there like we're taking that guy.
Everybody at the stadium was like, but we could go
get some drinks. Now we're we're taking that guy. I'm
(26:22):
so good something was there was actually a good forty
up until that point, which I mean it made it
historic at that all right, Chris, do you want to
run another one? I'm good? No, I said, Chris. You
could go back to your room. You don't have to
do anything, no interviews, know nothing. Uh yeah. And with
(26:45):
the number one overall pick, the short white guy's face
is just shocked, like, yeah, men are real. Wait a second,
well wait saying why are three people running? Who's not
(27:07):
on the person. Hey, get off that guy's shoulders, rich
eyes and rich eyes and trying to keep it clean lazy.
He ses, whoa, all right, ain't gonna go to break.
We're gonna go to break. That is That's one where
like we need to get Mike mayak On to get
(27:30):
his whole perspective on that, because that's something like you
just you don't ever think it's gonna happen in broadcasting,
and it happens on live TV, and you how we're
gonna handle this Just there's nothing you can do except
applaud hey man, enjoy the ride. They're going viral. But
(27:50):
by the way, what if they do a football life
on him after his career is over and he's probably
a Hall of Famer. If that's not part of it,
that is a disgrace. You remember Ice Man, Maybe production
used to ride itself like he created Eyes and just
ride itself. I'm just saying, you know, true, Just imagine surfing,
you know with Joe and now ten dude Chris Jones
(28:14):
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get your podcasts. Rich give me a hell. Yeah, So
it is Combine week. You know what that means? Tis
(29:17):
the season for rumors and reports? Yeah. According to Adam Schefter,
sources have told him that these Chicago Bears have already
been approached by multiple teams about trading the number one
overall pick, and Chicago is said to be quote leaning
towards moving the pick. So the number one pick now
(29:39):
looks like it's for sale dot dot dot. So there
it is. That is your stunner that the Bears might
actually roll with Justin Fields moving forward and trade out
of that number one pick for another draft spot lower
in the in the first round, potentially the Houston Texans
who are sitting at two. You've also got the Colts
at four, both quarterback needy teams. They've also got teams
(30:01):
like the Raiders. Anybody from the NFC South could possibly
be interested in wanting to move up to make a
move there. So that is the report and rumor out
of the draft combine from Adam Schefter there. So there
you go. There's these and who are the interested teams? Jonas,
that would be the Indianapolis Colts, the Houston Texans, and
(30:22):
anybody else that's looking for that quarterback that wants to
jump up there. It feels like if they still wanted
to get Jalen Carter, you'd probably have to move back
one spot because would he even be there at number four? Well,
you can get Jayleen Carter or Will Anderson. I think
you'll have the chance to get one of the two
depending on how the whole thing shakes out. But I
(30:43):
think the interesting thing about it is, you know, when
you're presented with the number one overall pick, it's a
difficult decision when you've got a quarterback that you didn't draft.
I mean, ultimately, that was Ryan Pace's draft pick, so
you don't have any ties to him, and I think
(31:04):
you can. You can. You know, you could sit there
and say, well, oh, Bryce Young's a better prospect, and
whatever the case is. It could simply just be like, hey,
it's not the guy that I would have drafted for
this football team. And I appreciate what he's done in
the past couple of years. But if I wanted to
move on from Justin Fields, you know, I'd go that route.
The problem is is, I think he probably couldn't find
(31:25):
any suitors that looked at Justin Fields as highly as
they might internally because of how Justin Fields has been
able to weather the storm the past couple of seasons
with everything he's gone through, and he has improved and
he is one of the league's best rushers. And even
though his poking passes, you know, pocket passing isn't where
it needs to be. Neither is their protection, neither is
(31:48):
the supporting cast around him. So I think all those
things would help improve his play. And you know, if
you're sitting there, you're kind of thinking yourself, all right, like,
do we really want to move move on from a
guy just to bring in a younger guy who's not
gonna be as close to that second contract that we
think will work out well? But maybe not. But I
(32:09):
think the first part of this soul discussion is the
Bears have the chance to, you know, make a decision
with whether they want to use that pick or trade
Justin Fields and go find his replacement. And they've obviously
decided that Justin Fields is their guy and they'd rather
help support him and build out around him as opposed
to starting over with another quarterback. I think whatever side
(32:32):
anyone were to fall on, that's I mean, if they
decided that they wanted to go in a different direction,
whichever one it is, just give give the young man
the grace and the opportunity to know what he's up
against or what he's got coming down the lane. Because
for all the things you just mentioned, I don't find
him to be culpable for the way this team has
(32:56):
played over the last you know, a couple of years.
So if you were going to stay with him, this
is the right move you that you let people know.
If you're not going to stay with him, it's the
right move because you let people know so that he
has a fair opportunity in this this situation and and
not to me, that's that's kind of where I fall
(33:16):
on it. Do you think it is Bryce Young the
type of talent that you would trade Justin Fields right
now to take number one? If if he were, they
would do it. If he were, they would do it.
Because but but again it's it's it's everything that Q
(33:37):
was saying. Why would you bring a young player, whether
he's a stud franchise guy or not, and bring him
into a scenario where you know that that that quarterback
doesn't have the tools in place to be able to
be the player that that you're drafting. It's it's just
you're wasting another top on top draft pick on on
the same position when you might already have that in
(34:00):
Justin Fields if you were to just build the team
up where he has a fair opportunity for success. So
I like when people point out we'll look at Justin
Fields win loss record, Okay, well, good for God's sakes,
I mean, what what is it's not it's not a
quarterback stat. It's so funny that we do that with
quarterbacks but no other position on the field. It's like, well, okay, well,
(34:21):
because they have a big impact on it, they're still
not on the field for deef to play defense or
special teams. I mean, he's on a supporting cast that
I think has probably bottom two in the league. Yes, hey,
I mean well it's look again, in the context of
you know, the NFL. They're all professional football players, all right,
(34:42):
I'm not trying to say that, you know, they all
can't play football. But to the other teams, yeah, compared
to hey, we we you know, if you want to
compare them to a Super Bowl champ like the Kansa
City Chiefs, they don't have as good of a roster.
I mean it's pretty simple. And by the way, you
remember that Monday night game they won at Foxborough when
they beat the Patriots. Remember that they beat the Patriots
(35:02):
and there was the Bailey's Appy mac Jones fiasco that
was going on there. Remember Brisker had the interception. Yeah,
that was the last game the Bears won last year.
Like they never won another game afterwards, and Justin Fields
got better as the year went on. And they still
want to ask you, guys this, if Patrick Mahomes we're
playing for the Chicago Bears, how much better would they
(35:25):
be a couple of games? There's nothing there Q A
couple of games. I think they'd be better, but not
that much better like that. That's the reality is. It's
just they don't you know, you still need talent, you
still need all those pieces around you, you know, a
supportive organization. And that's the tough part is you know, yeah,
(35:46):
he'd help improve, but it wouldn't It wouldn't be like,
oh they'd be a super Bowl winning team. How far
away are they from being a really good team if
you had If you have a Pat Mahomes on the team,
you still need to know a line sting receivers, Like
I'd worry about his health, but he has a good
old line now and he's hampered by ankle injury. So
(36:07):
then that proves the point. Then then you keep a
mobile quarterback that has the ability to throw the ball
and you build the rest of your team up Like
there it is. That's the debate settled. Like just think
about what we just said. And look, I think they're
number one in salary cap space because they just shed
it as much as they possibly could, whether it was
Khalil Mack and Roquan Smith and Robert Quinn last year,
(36:30):
they just gutted everybody and they've got the number one
overall pick and then they've got a bunch of salary
cap space. So they're going to be improved because it's
hard to be that much worse. But yeah, the idea
that's going to be a quick fix there, I think
it's crazy like they this is a full almost a
complete tear down and rebuild for them, and now you
just see who's gonna annie up and want to make
(36:52):
the move. And the fact that you've got two teams
in the AFC South sitting at two and four that
both need quarterbacks, that could be where the stole thing
gets interesting, a little bidding war there. Yeah, And look,
so my general point is Ryan Pools, the general manager
for the Bears, had a decision to make and he's
coming to the conclusion now where and this is usually
the timing of it because you know, and just so
(37:13):
people behind the scenes, no going to the combines. Fun
for people in broadcasting, and it used to be fun
for coaches everyone else because you get to mix it up.
You know, late at nights, you're going to steakhouses, you're
having some drinks, you're talking on maybe some coaches, some scouts,
some general managers, and you get to kind of mix
up with them. It's not really like that anymore because
(37:35):
of the timing and testing or all this stuff. So
unfortunately that doesn't work out quite the way it used to.
But one of the things that still does go on
is you bump into a lot of people with other teams,
and so you start discussing potentially what a trade scenario
would look like, whether it be the draft or certain
players on your roster right there might be under contract
(37:57):
I want to go somewhere else. It all starts at
the combine, you know, even though it's made out to
be about this next year's rookie draft class, it's not.
It's it really starts the business for the NFL, for
the new league year. All those conversations start now. Or
Jay Glazer told us on Fox Sports Radio a few
years ago. He said that he knows multiple times of
(38:21):
trades that were discussed and agreed to while both parties
were hammered at dinner, and then the next morning they realized, yeah,
I don't think we want to do that deal. Yeah,
I see either. And it just like that's that's where
this stuff happens. There's all sorts of networking and all
these other potential opportunities for trades and movements around the league.
So and by the way, who doesn't who doesn't like
(38:42):
watching the combine? It's fun, all right, Like it's fun
to see everybody, you know, throw the ball around and
not everybody's going to throw up two twenty five twenty
eight times like Brady Quinn did at his draft day.
But for the people number, I mean, you're making stuff upright, Okay,
how many how many times was it? I don't know,
twenty five twenty six times? Lee? Can we look that up.
(39:03):
I'm almost positive it was two twenty five, like twenty
six times something like that. That's all right, that doesn't
sound true. It is a lot. It's a lot. Two
twenty five. I mean you get to twenty six. You
if you get to twenty like, that's if you get that.
If you get the eighteen seventeen as a skill guy,
you're a beast. Yeah. Hey, let's go live to our
(39:26):
I know how many reps Brady Quinn put up at
two twenty five at the Combine Insider lead to lot
for the latest one, that would be officially twenty four
pep patt it man two twenty five, twenty four times,
it's a lot. Now we're done. Berto, Would I get
any praise from you for those sort of reps? Yeah,
(39:52):
it is two pse. You're not gonna hit the button
on Jonas means yes, I mean what do you mean? Yeah?
I mean but he said it? No, yeah, dump or anything?
Oh wow, yeah, how does that offend you? He just
makes up his own whatever are you talking about? Such
(40:14):
a Hey? First of all, Berto, you know I know
my stuff when it comes to the Mexican culture guy
who's inchecting him the question, Oh gosh, how dare you?
I would touch on what you just said. You but
I've already been dumped once before today. I almost let
(40:38):
something out that was gonna be a dumb bull hipto quota.
There you go, by the way, I got. Somebody responded
on Friday. Remember when there was a question about whether
or not Brady said the S word and he got
dumped early in the show. I went back and listened.
He did not. He did not say these We just,
you know, we wanted to be be careful and be saved.
(41:00):
So I thought he did I said something. Yeah, yeah,
I would have heard it. I'd have been like, oh,
you know me, I like to catch words like that
and just be like, oh, it's been sitting on my
tongue for a while because Jonas keeps going the same
route with the whole Knox skin thing, and I just
I was sitting on Yeah, what's sitting on there? I
(41:22):
just does it rhyme with Knox? No, okay, it rhymes
with like legging? Oh wow, okay, Oh Jesus, oh wow.
I mean, I never mean, I just I've never pegged
(41:48):
you to be like this sort of broadcaster, but now
that we're here, I never I never pegged him be
this one. You know, I think he kind of did.
Well maybe maybe now, maybe I didn't tag you. By
the way, by the way, you are correct. That is
that is absolutely correct. It is two pros and a
(42:08):
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