March 1, 2023 • 45 mins
On today’s Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Bryce Young’s height is becoming more an issue for teams at the top of the Draft. The Seahawks are doing their due diligence with QB’s they can draft at the No. 5 spot and The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about problems with the Pac-12, flat-tops and Sinead O’Connor.
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It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, So I got asked the question five ten
and a half that that's that's real. I mean we
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said he was short. Yeah, I mean, but you look
like you haven't gone through this. I I but Kyler
Murray felt like it was he had this speed and
this explosion and it was just this difference maker that
you could get past the height. And now all of
a sudden you've got people talking like they're terrified of
taking Bryce Young number one overall, even though odds would
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say he's gonna go number one overall. I just I
didn't say, yeah, it is supposed to beat the odds.
I'm just surprised I didn't. Odds aren't again Bryce Young, though,
when you watch him play, do you look at it
and go, he's really tiny? Like I never got that.
I don't know. I just thought I just thought he
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was a great player. I never is. He's just short.
So is there is it legitimate concern to where there's
an actual possibility somebody's not taking him number one overall? Yes? Okay,
I mean I don't know, I'm a little surprised, to
be honest with you. I just I thought it was
a foregone conclusion he was going to go number one overall.
And then you're getting all these reports about him being
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five ten and a half one ninety five, and he's tiny,
and in comparison, Kyler Murray I think was what two
ten when he came out. I think that was one
of the specs on Kyler Murray. But the five ten
and a half one ninety five was thrown out there
by Todd McShane and others. I mean, Alabama's pro Day's
March twenty third. What do we gotta do to get
him to six one? What surgery? What do we have
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to do to give us a six one? Are you
not more worried about to wait too? Oh? You can
figure that out. I mean, put something in your pockets,
you know. I mean, that's that's like high school light.
Two ten. Two ten at a tailback or at a
running backs position is what maybe standard for par uh
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standard for what the position is maybe two ten. I
mean that's still a little, maybe a little light. Derrick
Henry was two ten at three years old. I mean
he's outlier, though, Kyler Murray, by the way, measured at
five foot ten one eighth seven inch, so Young is
a little bit taller. And he weighed two hundred and
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seven pounds. Oh that's not bad. Two hundred and seven
pounds isn't bad. It's light, but it's not it's not bad. Look,
I'll put it this way. In today's NFL, he can
make it all right. If you would have said this
twenty some years ago, where the quarterbacks didn't get the
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exact same protection in the pocket, the game wasn't as
spread out. RPOs weren't a thing, especially for a quarterback
and shotgun. And I'll get to why that matters in
a second. You'd probably have more reservations. You'd say, like,
I need him to put on more weight. I need
me to be bigger. And by the way, he will
put on more muscle mass. Now, he's never going to
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be a guy who's over two twenty, but he'll be.
He'll be a little bigger by his pro day. He'll
be a little bigger by the time he plays. But
that's that's him, Like, that's his size, that's what he's been,
that's what he was a modern day essentially, it's what
he was at Bama. It's not like he grew considerably.
He's been this way, So if you're taking him, you're
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fully taking on that concern and that risk. But the
reason why I say, you know, today's a good time
in the NFL with how spread it out is the
RPOs are. If you look at Kyler Murray and how
teams play him, they just try to keep in the pocket.
And Leavar just said how electric he is like running
and how quick he is, you know, because they know
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if he gets outside the pocket, that's where he could
be dangerous, running, throwing, whatever the case is. But his
biggest issue is he can't see over the middle, so
he's got to throw. If he's in the pocket, everything's
gonna be in the outside. It's got to be the
outside where he can find a throwing lane either between
the guard and tackle or outside the tackle, and that's
where he's gonna be able to have some vision. Otherwise
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he's got to take a set so deep in shotgun
when he is in the pocket that it's going to
stress those tackles in their pass protection because they're not
going to be able to pass set and not allow
that defenders to run around them. So you find yourself
in this struggle where you've got to find ways of
still being able to tack the middle of the field,
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and you can do that while implementing some creative offense
utilizing RPOs, and that's where you can kind of create
these gaps or these natural passing lanes with the way
you go about reading your RPO, your run pass option.
I'm not run play. So those are all things Bryce
Young's done for a while. He'll be successful doing it.
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But if this is twenty years ago, twenty five years ago,
he's not being talked about as the number one overall
pick it for me, it's the Alabama deal. And listen,
there haven't been crazy successful quarterbacks that have come out
of Alabama to play in the National Football League, but
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they have done well in school. I would say if
size were if that's the one criticism that you're going
to try to use against a quarterback Bryce Young being
at Alabama, I think you have to say that puts
it to bid because those linemen and those players are giants.
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They're big. So whatever it is that he needed to
figure out how to see the field and what he
needed to do to be the passer that he became
in college and has proven to be he had to
do it in college. And and that's something that when
you look at the game film, he's not. Let me
tell you something, it's hard as hell to be considered
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good at playing your your position and playing this sport.
It's it's super hard to be considered elite and it's
almost impossible to become elite in in in the college ranks,
to be the odds on favorite to go number one.
That's that's like you go walk outside, wait there, you
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have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than
you do to have the rank or the odds that
he has in his favor. Right now, that says that
the book has been written on him, and and right
now that book is a there's a positive storyline. He
overcomes what his what they would say is height deficit
or what he doesn't check off in in the eye
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tests column. He checks it off. So I think it's
more so about there's always going to be screwed when
you're having scrutiny driven events that take place. And that's
that's one hundred percent what the combine represents. So he's
the right now we're looking at just props courtesy of
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our friends at DraftKings Quarterbacks to Go, And there's somebody
that's making some ground pretty quickly here, which we can
get to later on. But right now, Bryce Young is
a one eighty five, so an overwhelming favorite CJ. Stroud
plus two seventy five, followed by Will Levis. So the
feeling is, and everybody that's talked or interacted with Bryce
Young and this is I mean, Petro's talked about this,
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you know, months ago, and Brady's brought this up, like
the character, there's no issues there whatsoever. And I think Brady,
you've made the point. If he was six to one,
this is Andrew luck type conversation, Trevor Lawrence generational talent.
It's just the size. It's just taller than that. Well yeah,
I'm just saying, but like even if he was just
six one, the discussions completely different with this guy. And
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so now we just wait to see what the plan is.
Who is going to move up to number one overall
to try and make the make the jump and take
Bryce Young If it's not going to be the Chicago Bears,
but that is the speculation. Five ten and a half,
one ninety or whatever. It is uh for Bryce four inches.
It makes a difference. It definitely does. Just say, hey,
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for those that said, tell me about to make a
difference for you, Uh, I don't know. I mean I
think it makes a difference for everyone. Okay, that's a
certain point. It makes a difference for you. I've watched
them now for a while, so I don't it doesn't
bother me. Um with where he's at. Good. You know
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you were being literally, it was literal. You were being literal.
Oh yeah, going to cheer anybody. I was going to say,
I was going to stay on my storyline, but we
went back to so all right, let's stay serious. It
doesn't matter to me. Okay, I really am okay with
him being the size that he is. I really am.
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All right. So if he's gonna put on weight, all right,
since since you can't do he's too short to drop
all the way to number seven. Yeah, that's who you want.
Burno finally a quarterback. Burno's in on for the Raiders.
You didn't want Derek Carr not a fan of Jared
stid him apparently, Aaron Rodgers. No, you're just building, just
building your excuse bank up, that's all You're going to
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need it. You're going to need it. No faith in
Josh Mith Daniel's here too. Come on, I just don't
have any faith that their turnaround is going to be dramatic.
I just don't. Yeah, like, we've seen what they are,
what are they going to do that? So if anything,
there's the possibility they could go back based off of
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losing their quarterback. We're gonna find out how much of
a player Car was for for Las Vegas. You know,
we might have been like, wow, wow, he's not good enough,
he's not good enough. But think about the other side
of it, like if he wasn't good enough, We're going
to find out how how bad they would have been
if they didn't have, you know, his services. That's what
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I would have say. You know, we need to do
to get to we need to get some weight on
Bryce Young before the pro day. What one of those
uh chopper milkshakes he used to get breaking? Yeah, the
heavy weight in Yeah We two was like a Ribi
steak and peanut butter. Uh No, that wasn't anything close
to that. Okay, well sounds amazing, I mean what was
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I feel like you literally just made that up. Possibly Listen,
I'm just reading this telepod and I don't know um
what was in this substance, but I can only guess
it's it's literally the mixture they use when you're laying bricks,
like you're going making the cubment for the bricks, like
laying between. I think that's part of the big sure.
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So he would put that in there, probably a couple
of heaving scoops, way too big, way more than it
should have been. He'd crack a couple of eggs, he'd
throw in some I think he threw it like a
tad bit of a vanilla extract because he thought that
really tweaked the flavor for me. And then he'd mix
in probably some whole milk, and then from there, I'm
not really sure. He kind of turns back, maybe some
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drops of eye dine, who knows. That's That's what he
would always claim where the height came from. You know,
he's like, oh, I just kind of mixing some I
dine in there. How old were you and when he
started drinking those, god, way too young. I was probably
like seven or eight, you know, because and here's the
thing is, to his credit, I wasn't a great eater,
you know, I would eat like product nineteen or total,
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and that was about it as far as like pretty
much like my meals peanut butter sandwiches, not even jelly,
just peanut butter. And I was I was pretty picky,
and so he was like I was a skinny kid,
and he was just like, I gotta do something to
put some weight on this guy. And he, you know,
went out of his way to make sure I, you know,
I was getting the protein and everything else that I needed.
So that's how job? How much did you add to
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combine two thirty three? At what height? I was six
three and seven eighth something like that, so it's just
under sixty four. Think about that. Yeah, think about how
far away Bright Young is from. And Brady hit a
growth spurt afterwards six nine three fifteen. Now you saw
him at the super Bowl. Damn jacked. Why do you
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do things like it's back on their shape? It's bar
is it not weird? I mean he's just talking about
you know, the thing about Jonas, and I've learned to
appreciate it is he's a very visually driven dude, and
he likes being visually driven through his words. So he
creates these fantasies of what what he envisioned something to be.
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So I've kind of like gotten to the point of
where I appreciate it, you know. I mean, come on,
like in his mind when he saw you at the
super Bowl, you were six nine, three hundred and fifteen pounds,
which that makes you Jersey's off of three hundred. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, I mean listen, I felt like
I was being pretty honest about they should have pained
you go before you put your clothes on. I asked
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you this, LeVar, when when you are with jonas oftentimes,
do you motivate him with visual aid like things like that. Yes,
he's sitting there shaking his head at me, like, yeah
he does, that is correct, I do, yeah, but but
not with me. Not no, no, no, not with me.
We just we just take journeys on browsing. We're browsers. Yeah.
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I didn't say braziers, I say browser. He motivates me
on on what to stay away from, like I'm really
gonna do this, right, that's exactly right. He could for
what to stay close to. Yeah, yeah, there's all that
stuff there. Be sure to catch live editions of Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,
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and Jonas Knox week days at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio all Right,
top of the NFL Draft. We've speculated that maybe this
would be a possibility. Could the Seattle Seahawks take a
quarterback with the number five pick? Overall, you've obviously got
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the Bears, You've got the Texans, You've got the Cardinals
and the Colts ahead of them, and Seattle sitting at five.
And Pete Carroll and the Seahawks were hinting at yesterday
that it's very unique to them picking this high courtesy
of Russell Wilson in that awful season they had in Denver.
And there is the potential that they could look at
quarterback here, and it feels like it might make some sense.
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Geno Smith comes back, maybe you do a franchise tag,
maybe you do a short term deal. And if you've
got an opportunity, and Brady, you've talked about this guy
shooting up the draft boards. If Anthony Richardson is sitting
there at five, how do you not take a peek
at that and want to build around him, make him
the quarterback of the future, that feels like it could
be a home run. Yeah, especially if you're in a
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position where you don't necessarily have to take best player
available at that bought. And I'm not saying that the
Seahawks roster is there, but John Schneider, over the course
of his time in Seattle send such a good job
finding guys in the middle eight rounds to be impact players,
starters for them who've developed end up being Pro Bowl
caliber players that I think he feels confident that if
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he spent that pick on a quarterback, you know, Geno
Smith would be the guy for a year, kind of
a stop gap, and then they'd look to build and
build on with that next quarterback they're looking to get behind.
But he's got so much talent, so much ability to me.
To me, I think the biggest difference when we talk
about guys who have like high upside, but they might
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have a low floor. The low floor comes from lack
of experience and lack of consistency in some of the
things you see on tape. So for example, you know
when he can put together from some throws where he
snaps his feet around in the pocket, he navigates the
pocket well all the things you're gonna be asked to
do at the NFL level and delivered an accurate throw.
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You know, that's just the sort of thing that you
want to see throughout his entire you know tape in season.
Why was at Florida and you wouldn't see that. You
kind of see the ebbs and flows. And I don't
know how much of that had to do with his
supporting cast. I don't know how much of that has
to do with his you know, offensive coordinator and play calling,
and then how much of that has to do with
him and just his growth and mat surety at the position.
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But the times that you see him, whether it's the
arm strength and his ability to you know, navigate the
pocket or scramble out and just flick the ball sixty
sixty five yards down field, which I think is longest
throw on tape, the ball traveling about sixty three sixty
four yards in the air. It's it's special. I mean,
he's got some really really special traits to his ability
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to move and throw, and and he's perfectly suited for
you know, this era of football where you're not asked
to play from the pocket the entire game. You can
get outside the pocket, you can design some quarterback run game,
you can incorporate some RPOs things to make it a
little easier easier on the quarterback now they're seeing the field.
So I think it makes a lot of sense for
Seattle if they went that direction. But that has a
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lot to do too with the fact that Snyder drafted
well last year, He's drafted well in the past, and
I think he knows after that first round pick he
could still find some potential starters and guys to add
depth with the rest of the draft. If it's petty enough,
I will go with you. You draft a quarterback, whoever
it is, at that pick, and you celebrate him as
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the first coming of a real franchise quarterback to league
this team into the future. If you're if you're if
you're subscribing to being totally absurdly petty, and and that's
that's kind of where I would settle in on it.
Like it. It seems as though that would be the
final nail in the proverbial coffin of the relationship between
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Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. And I just don't think
that they've held any punches back against one another in
terms of how they take their little shots at one another.
So to take a franchise possibility caliber guy at that
five position, which I mean there will be one at five,
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I would take them. I would take it. If there's
a franchise caliber guy, I would take them. Now. Now
let me ask you guys this and I could be
off on this. Is Tyler Lockett the only one that
they have to bring back or DK is done? Right? Like?
He's not he's not up yet. Yeah, no, he's not
an extension last year. He's not right right now? What
about Tyler Lockett? I want to say he is? He?
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I don't know. I feel like he could be a
free agent or could be available. Maybe not. Here's the thing.
If you keep those two guys in place, and you
know that Pete Carroll always finds a way to run
the ball, so it's not gonna have You're not going
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to put a tremendous amount of pressure on a quarterback pluts.
You already have success in Gino right now, who could
carry them for for quite some time until that quarterback
is ready. I think it's a win. I think that's
a win to take a quarterback at five. So it
says Tyler Lockett signed a four year extension back in
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March of twenty twenty one, so he's under contract. I mean,
they got the tools, you got Kenneth Walker, Brady point
that you drafted well last year. You've got another pick
in the first round at twenty. I mean, it could
not have gone better for the Seahawks than it did
last year. They could they could really really be a
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competitive team. I mean, they showed to be a better
team than what people maybe expected they would be post
post Russell Wilson. But this really he sets the stage
for them to be a really really different I mean
they'll get don't they get Adams back, like he went
out pretty early in the year, Their their defense will improve.
He went at week one, he went out early. Yeah,
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so I mean good for good for Seattle. Good for Seattle.
I would take a quarterback if I'm them, I would
take a quarterback. I don't know if the pumpkin hit
hit Midnight with Gino Smith. I like Geno Smith. I
think it's a great comeback story. I think he did well.
But you know, these defensive coordinators get paid to do
a job too. They'll have book on him, they'll go
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over it and they'll game plan them and we'll see
if he's still able to have the type of success
he was able to have this season. What do you
think a contract looks like for Gino Smith Brady. Did
they just go franchise or they try and do something
short term and just say, hey, this is what it is.
I don't know why more teams don't use the non
exclusive franchise tag in this case, I mean allow the
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rest of the market to do the bidding for you.
You're knocking to have to pay him the premium that
you are if you're playing the exclusive franchise tag, which
is like another thirteen twelve million something like that. More so,
it saves you a bit of cap space, and I
think you'd be more than willing to say, yeah, we'll
pay you that for a one year guarantee deal because
you've played well enough. And look if you if you
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prove it two years in a row, and we happen
to draft a guy at five, then we could reevaluate
a year from now and maybe he's ready after his
rookie year, maybe he's not, Maybe we do this for
another year. But either way, you know, I'm sure Gino's
looking at cashing in. The hard part is is his age,
the gap of time at the last time at which
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he was able to do it. And I think, much
like Daniel Jones, there's there's people out there you want
to say, like, I want to see you do it
two years in a row, right then they feel much
more confident what you can be as a franchise quarterback
moving forward. The only difference with Gino is that's just
another year getting older, and so your shelf life isn't
quite as long. So you know, he might be frustrated
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by it, but I think it'd be a good, a
good opportunity to at least cash it on thirty some
million guaranteed. But that would be the route that I'd go.
And look, if you're Seattle and someone says we're willing
to pay you know, Gino Smith, this longer term deal,
it's gonna pay X. You say, all right, give me
your first round picks. Go sign into that deal. We'll
take your first round picks and we'll move forward. Now,
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that could be one route they go. Now you alluded
LaVar to the pettiness between Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll.
Pete Carroll yesterday at the Combine in Indianapolis was asked
about that report the courtesy of The Athletic, pointing out
that Russell Wilson mayor may not have tried to get
Pete Carroll and John Schneider fired. And here was Pete
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Carroll's response, a similar response that it's always been with
the guys that I've coach that I'm always going to
hang with them. I'm never going to leave them, and
I'm gonna be there at the end of all of
the good stuff and all of the bad stuff, I'm
gonna still be there. And so you know, I'm hanging on.
And it doesn't matter who the guys. If you look
at all of the guys that have come to our program,
just just not go back to the college which is
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here at Seattle, regardless of what has happened, has taken place,
or the things that have been said at all. If
you hang with them, it all comes back around. And
H I'd like to demonstrate that faith in the relationship
and the depth of what we did together and h
and hang through whatever the growth challenges bring to sit
along the way. So He's definitely the way anybody out. Yeah, what,
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but I did find a flaw though wait, wait huh.
I found a little bit of a flaw though with
Pete Carroll's thinking, um that he's always going to ride
with his guys through thick and thin basically what about
a USC Because when all of a sudden things started
to fall apart and he jumped to the NFL pretty quick.
So I was just trying to figure out whether or
not the thick and thin at USC would do you
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still hang? Yeah? Do you still have the end of
that that sound bite? Berto see, because to me, I
just listened, I look or the things that are giveaways,
and at the end he says something that's pretty interesting.
He said the growth the growth of like like insinuating that, Yeah, like,
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dude's got a lot of growing he's got to do. Like,
to me, that's that's kind of how I interpret it.
You got the end of it. Let's let's listen to
the end of what he's did and hang through whatever
the growth challenges bring to along the way. It's like,
to me, it's almost like he's taking a father. He's
obviously coaches our father figures anyway, but but to interpret it,
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like to finish it off with the growth challenges, like
it's kind of I don't know. For me, that would
be a subliminal shot. I mean, they're both intelligent dudes.
So it's like, oh, he's saying, he's saying there's a
growth thing here. Huh, Like I'm immature or something like
what what exactly do you mean? Like it could be
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again And I don't want to try to like manufact
or anything or anything like that, but I'm just saying,
when you have a coach that sits there and says
during the course of his interview that doesn't answer not
one bit what he was asked, and it's like, well,
I write with my guys. It doesn't matter who the
guy is. I write with my guys. And then you
finish it off with you know, the growth challenges. It's like, Okay,
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he'll come to us since his one day and he'll
realize it and through the good and the bad, he'll
come back and we'll hug it out and we'll be
buddies moving forward. In defense of Russell Wilson or wasn't
there a report that came out whether I think it
might have been in twenty eighteen that they were looking
at and they went and took a visit to look
at Patrick Mahomes and some other quarterbacks and something along
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those lines, and Russell Wilson found out about it and
got pissed, and there was some discussions about do we
move on from him at this point. Ultimately they signed
him to the four year extension. But it's not like
Seattle hadn't poked around at potentially replacing Russell Wilson either.
I mean, I don't know if they explicit Sidley said
he's gone, we're shopping and we don't want any part
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of him, like Russell Wilson did. But I do feel
like Pete Carroll has been guilty of this at certain
points of his career as well too, and as I
mentioned US City where he kind of bull Can we
just be real for a second. It's the NFL, like
it is the pinnacle of competition, and people and teams
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or organizations constantly trying to improve themselves, and it's cutthrought
as hell, definitely is. Even if you have success, everyone's
looking at getting better the next year, like it's nothing's
ever good enough. And even if you're the Kansas City
Chiefs right now, they're looking at how they can improve
their roster. I mean, it sounds crazy to say but
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you know, you know, eventually there might become a quarterback
that comes out that competes with Patrick Mahomes and we
look at him, might say it's better than Patrick Holmes.
You know what, every team is gonna want that guy,
Like every guy every team right now, which they had
Patrick Mahomes, the next guy that comes out that's better
than him, that's who everyone wants, and they would sacrifice
a lot of things for. It's just how it's how
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the NFL works, and so it's not impossible to think
that Seattle, even after winning a seer both Russell and
going to two, at some point didn't look at the
draft class depending on who some of those prospects were,
and didn't do their due diligence or as they should,
by the way, because you never know how things turn
out down the road where you might have the opportunity
to trade for him. You might have the opportunity where
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he becomes a free agent somehow, however that's orchestrated. You
never know what the future holds, so you have to
do all your homework on all those draft classes. No
different than the Chicago Bears right now when Ryan Poles
is like, oh, we're still going to meet with the quarterbacks.
Of course you have to. You have to because as
a general manager, you should be doing that for the
Bears organization, not knowing what two years, three years holds
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from now. And if you're Ryan Poles, you're doing it
for Ryan Poles because you don't know where you're going
to be and you might end up crossing paths with
the team in a situation where you have to have
some in depth knowledge on these players. So of course
they're going to do all their homework on these guys,
and of course they're going to talk about potentially other
quarterbacks because that's what you do. I mean, John Lynch
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has talked about that, you know, pick up the phone
and calling you know, Bill Belichick about Tom Brady back
when he's on New England. That's what good general managers do.
They make you say no, they make you say like, oh, yeah,
did you even ask if Tom Brady was available? You
don't know until you ask, or you know what the
price is until you ask, right, I Mean that's what's
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crazy is people take to heart the reality of what
the NFL is, and that is it is the most
ruthless business that's out there. I'm sure there's some that
are up next to it. But you can't allow your
emotions to get involved, Like you just can't as a player.
You just have to keep trying to do the best
you can. Focus on you focus on getting better, focused
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on winning it, being as successful as you can. But
at some point, like someone's gonna tell you you're not
good enough. Agin Like it's not like they don't tell
you that at some point along your journey, Like every
player has been told that, probably every coach at some
point I was told that. But even after your success,
someone's gonna keep telling you still can't do it again,
or you're not good enough again. Like, I just don't
know why guys get they allow these fractures to happen
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because an organizations doing what's in their best interest. I mean,
it's it just it always confuses me that no one's
real with players. They're like, yeah, dude, they're really appreciate.
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Rich give me a hell yeah right now. We welcome
in the old pe on Twitter. Petros Papadegacy is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Browtorch Am five to seventy LA
Sports also a Fox College football analysts. Good Morning Pee,
Happy Wednesday. Hello, Hello everybody, good morning. He's going on
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not much, Petros, there's a report out that the Big
Ten is now targeting more schools from the PAC twelve.
Oh what a shot? I mean, whatever happened all that
solidarity that the PAC twelve talked about at their meetings
in Arizona the other day? What's going on there? Wasn't
there an allegiance or a pack they made or something. Yeah,
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it reminds me of the Fox Sports Seminar allegiance. Until
somebody more important comes up to talk to you, that
means you're good. You know, jeez, you get who are
you taking a shot out there? Petros? Everybody? Okay, no, no,
it's uh. This was evident, and I just I hated
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doing interviews in Seattle or other places, or traveling or
talking to the Oregon State people or the Fresno State people,
like what are your thank you think they're gonna add
us to the PAC twelve. It's like the PAC twelve
is is dead. The PAC twelve as we know it
as a major conference. How it doesn't matter as much
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when it comes to the college football playoff expansion, which
is great for everybody, I think, except for maybe the SEC.
But I believe the PAC twelve cut off a leg
and then started a ten year race with one leg
bleeding out while everybody else had two feet. I'm serious,
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like it was that stupid the way they handled their
TV deal. And I don't know how many times I've
said it or to who, but the saddest part about
it was it didn't have to happen. They didn't have
to cripple themselves with a terrible TV deal. When this
whole thing started with a terrible executive by the name
of Larry Scott, there were plenty of offers from plenty
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of networks that know how to do TV and almost
more importantly, more importantly, to be honest, have distribution. And
that's not what the PAC twelve did. And for the
last ten years they've killed themselves. Finally, the two smartest
and most recognizable and most lucrative brands in the biggest
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city in the conference jumped off the ship to another
ship right before the PAC twelve was sinking. So revenue wise,
the PAC twelve will never ever be the same. It
might not even have a name like that anymore. And yeah,
those teams are going to play big time college football.
Yeah they're gonna have a TV deal because the time
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slots have to be filled and people have to play
at night, and they're not going to kick it off
at ten o'clock on the East Coast, at least not
right now in our society. Although they did tip a
game at nine o'clock in Utah the other night in
college basketball on the PAC twelve, which is stupid. But
it's over and it's hard for people to accept. But
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when SC and UCLA left, the whole thing ended. In
Oregon and Washington are going to look for a way out.
And the problem with the Big ten is they want
to bake a big new pie before they start slicing people,
like or in Washington in you know what I'm saying.
They don't want to slice off a little slice of
their pie and give it to the freaking ducks. You
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ever been to Eugene, please, Well, I was just gonna
ask you, so, like it always makes sense for Oregon
and Washington say yeah, like we want to join the party,
or for the Big ten to go yeah, the more
of the marry. Let's bring in two bigger brands. They
rate pretty well. And it would make sense too, probably
if you're trying to figure out scheduling to be able
to have like a whole West Coast swing, if you will.
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But we all know traveling partners, right, but we all
know behind this, the TV partners aren't like, well, we're
not gonna pay you, more like you're just gonna have
to divvy up more of what's there. That doesn't work
realistically though, does it. No, so they have to have
a new TV deal. I think it was pretty evident, Brady,
when the guy, the Big ten commissioner that's gone to
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the Chicago Yeah Warren, really early in this process he
said something like, we're gonna add We're gonna add the Stanford,
we're gonna add cow we're gonna add Washington, and we're
gonna add Oregon. And then somebody I'm assuming at Fox
said no, you're not. And then next thing you know,
a month later he's working at the Big ten minute,
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I mean, he's not working there anymore, and he's over
for the Chicago Bears. So everybody's under somebody else's control,
and it's all about big macro dollars moving. It's not
an extra fifty g's for this, it's not an extra
fifty g's for that. We're talking about over the years
of these contracts, billions of dollars so I get it.
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But you're right, Brady, A new pie will have to
be baked for the ducks and the Huskies' delicious to
get it. If you like money, it's real tasty. You
know what's else's tasty is TikTok's you know this dance?
You know what? I'm not posting. I'm not sending you
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anything anymore. What's what do you mean TikTok? No? I
just I can't. I have a hard time understanding why
adult man, Petro, she went to USC aren't you doing TikTok? So?
I know right, there's like a whole school for it.
I just don't understand why adult men have have turned
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to this medium. I mean, I get it that poor
Britney Spears husband has to hold up the camera for
her while she spots and turns around over and over
and over and over. And she go back to that
Shonaed O'Connor haircut anytime soon. By the way, Hey, there's
nothing wrong with shanedo O'Connor. Okay, she's had a few
psychotic episodes as well. But shined O'Connor has a great,
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not a good, A great reggae album from yes from
about fifteen years ago, she went down to Jamaica the
Tough Gong Studios. She got together the best drum based
combo maybe in world history. One of them just died, though,
Robbie Shakespeare in Slyde Dunbar, and put together an all
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star band of musicians. I mean, people don't understand how
integrated reggae music and Jamaican music is with British and
Irish people and the Scots. Yeah, uh and uh. It's
very very relevant, like you know, songs like Uptown, top
Ranking and stuff like that they heard when they were
growing up. So she, I mean she that's a great
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I think it's called throw down Your Arms and she
covers you know, Peter taj Burning Spear, even a Boogei
Bontan song. It's a hell of an album, you Petro.
I would have never thought Janaye O'Connor would have done that.
She's a fabulous musician. I mean, she's you know, she
ripped up the thing of the Pope and it upset
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a lot of Catholicos, of course on Saturday Night Live,
and it made h It made Frank Sinatra mad. Remember
he was like, I'll kick her ass right out of
the country and uh. But but honestly, her music, I
mean her biggest song is a Prince cover. That's a
cover of a Prince song. So she's kind of a voice,
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you know, like she she's written some songs, I'm sure,
but her her voice is really irrelevant. And so yes,
shanide O'Connor, Emperor's New Clothes a good song to look
for with her fabulous artist and with Saint Patty's Day
come up around the corner, it's appropriate. Yeah, And she
just doesn't stand in one place and just rock back
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and forth looking ominous like Britney Spears does. Yeah. Wow, said,
has a good voice. Britney, I don't even know what
to ask. I had a question, but I'm sorry was
about it was about football. But I'll tell you one thing.
Leave arms date came out to the Rose Bowl and
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whooped Kyle Whittingham's asked, I mean they took it to
Kyle Winningham's flat top like no other it was. I
was there, who whoa, whoa? What do you have you
think as a flat top? Is that what you'd call that?
Not now? But he used to hull, I'm used trusting
out with the flat top. I don't know why it's
just the most trustworthy haircut. The flat top came back,
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like really came back. Well, you had the guys in
the Back to the Future, but remember remember Beavis and
butt Head. Yeah they had the flat top pe teacher
guy me in the Jimmy who had the flat top
was a kid er play kid. Yeah that play had
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a flat top two but kids was super high. I
wouldn't consider that like the flattop o' time. I'm talking
more like the kind of high and tight flatsop you're
talking about, like white guy military flat top. Right, Yeah,
Like God, I feel like I grew up and I
feel like every time I see it flat So I'm like, oh,
you can trust this guy. He's you know, probably gonna
be on time, probably gonna be a minute. Dude. I
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was at my sister's yoga studio the other day and
it's probably gonna be on time and exactly and dude,
dude rolled in right on time, I might add you.
And he looked exactly like Guile. So you didn't hear me.
So you did, are like Ivan Drago. You know, it's like,
give me the trustworthy haircut. That's a flat top trustworthy
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to shoot you that's I was about to say, that's cultural.
Then I saw Christopher. I saw Christopher. Kids were different
for an argument community, Well, yeah, you are a dancer,
you are difference flat tops? Does pac Man have a
flat top? And wait does he? No? Sean Pin have
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a flattop? And let's look it up. This important stuff
here all right, doing it live on the air. I mean,
it's a fine line between a short haircut on a
man and a flat top. Money and uh Color, Money
and Neo have flat tops. Let's see, uh Man, he
definitely does not know he does. No, that's too bad.
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He's actually got a nice flow going. Yeah, that's too bad.
I saw Christopher kid read once at the Marley's Bar,
and Phoenix laid out, just laid out, hand on the ball.
He gets it in, Kid gets it in, he stayed.
Did he have the flattop going? No, No, it's like
curly now little steaks. Hey, maybe that's what Bryce Young
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should do. Grow out a flatop. We'll get to six
one in a heartbeat copy that. I mean, we all
saw flatch six four six nine with the affronts. Yeah,
that's not a flattop. That's not a flat that's too bad.
Good hair though. All right, well, all right, Petros, is
there anything else you guys? No, he just were we
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called about Shande O'Connor. We needed that cleared up, literally
putting it on. She's had some problems, sand has had
some issues beyond just ripping the pope's picture. Yeah, she's
had some you know. She she got married for like
two hours. She's kind of a little bit like Britney Spears,
but much more talented. And she has a giant chest
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piece tattoo. Now, yeah she does. I saw that, chess Peace.
There's a picture of her. There's a picture of her
with a lung dart and shut out. Well, there's more
and more people now that like women that'll go to
the tattoo place and just get their whole chest blasted out,
and it's like, dude, what are you? What are you doing?
I mean I had a response for that, Petro. She
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shut out chest piece? She does. Look at that's just
shut out chess piece. Yeah, I mean, look at that thing,
chest piece, chess peace. She got a tattoo on the
side of her head too, I think does she have
a head tattoo? I think so. The neck tattoo was
the real used to be the middle finger to society,
and then the face tattoo came, which is truly the
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middle finger to God. Face tattoo. I mean, you ain't
been in jail, dude, Come on now, I mean she
looks like a remioff hire learning in some of these pictures.
Oh wow, I dare you? I'm just saying she does?
Am I lying? Am I lying? Well? Look, life has
been hard. Okay, Well, I'm gonna stay out of this.
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It's a move or fair that it could incriminate me. Why, well,
you know that's fair. You know, movies used to come out,
you know, and people would not think much about like
what what was in him? I mean remember Revenge of
the Nerds. Look straight up, he raped that girl. Jesus
the freaking fader maask guy? Oh and everybody? Oh, and
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what about the Wasn't that a hate crime if you
put a naked picture out of it? Somebody? Yeah? I mean, dude,
those guys are all going to jail. That's I think
they call. Yeah, the whole Revenge of the Nerds. They
It is interesting no one ever calls out like those
old flicks, you know. Yeah, I mean, if you put
if you put a bunch of nerds calling everyone out.
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If you put a bunch of icy hot, Like if
you put icy hot on everybody's jockstrap on the football team,
you go to jail's hurt. Everybody's pootso off. That's crazy there,
what the pot? It's a Greek wort hey? What would
Don Martin say if he found out there were people
putting icy hot on jockstraps in the locker room? My
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man Alfred real Williams. I mean he sat on the
top for four d eight. Petros, one last question for you.
Is it true that Greeks invented sex? Is that true? No,
we were the first to document anals. Oh wow, yep,
I knew that. I knew that. I knew that one
we wrote it down. We were the first to write
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it down. At the old pe Petros, Papa ac is uh,
he's he going better for that? Petros will do to
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All right, So I got asked the question five ten
and a half that that's that's real. I mean we
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said he was short. Yeah, I mean, but you look
like you haven't gone through this. I I but Kyler
Murray felt like it was he had this speed and
this explosion and it was just this difference maker that
you could get past the height. And now all of
a sudden you've got people talking like they're terrified of
taking Bryce Young number one overall, even though odds would
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say he's gonna go number one overall. I just I
didn't say, yeah, it is supposed to beat the odds.
I'm just surprised I didn't. Odds aren't again Bryce Young, though,
when you watch him play, do you look at it
and go, he's really tiny? Like I never got that.
I don't know. I just thought I just thought he
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was a great player. I never is. He's just short.
So is there is it legitimate concern to where there's
an actual possibility somebody's not taking him number one overall? Yes? Okay,
I mean I don't know, I'm a little surprised, to
be honest with you. I just I thought it was
a foregone conclusion he was going to go number one overall.
And then you're getting all these reports about him being
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five ten and a half one ninety five, and he's tiny,
and in comparison, Kyler Murray I think was what two
ten when he came out. I think that was one
of the specs on Kyler Murray. But the five ten
and a half one ninety five was thrown out there
by Todd McShane and others. I mean, Alabama's pro Day's
March twenty third. What do we gotta do to get
him to six one? What surgery? What do we have
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to do to give us a six one? Are you
not more worried about to wait too? Oh? You can
figure that out. I mean, put something in your pockets,
you know. I mean, that's that's like high school light.
Two ten. Two ten at a tailback or at a
running backs position is what maybe standard for par uh
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standard for what the position is maybe two ten. I
mean that's still a little, maybe a little light. Derrick
Henry was two ten at three years old. I mean
he's outlier, though, Kyler Murray, by the way, measured at
five foot ten one eighth seven inch, so Young is
a little bit taller. And he weighed two hundred and
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seven pounds. Oh that's not bad. Two hundred and seven
pounds isn't bad. It's light, but it's not it's not bad. Look,
I'll put it this way. In today's NFL, he can
make it all right. If you would have said this
twenty some years ago, where the quarterbacks didn't get the
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exact same protection in the pocket, the game wasn't as
spread out. RPOs weren't a thing, especially for a quarterback
and shotgun. And I'll get to why that matters in
a second. You'd probably have more reservations. You'd say, like,
I need him to put on more weight. I need
me to be bigger. And by the way, he will
put on more muscle mass. Now, he's never going to
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be a guy who's over two twenty, but he'll be.
He'll be a little bigger by his pro day. He'll
be a little bigger by the time he plays. But
that's that's him, Like, that's his size, that's what he's been,
that's what he was a modern day essentially, it's what
he was at Bama. It's not like he grew considerably.
He's been this way, So if you're taking him, you're
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fully taking on that concern and that risk. But the
reason why I say, you know, today's a good time
in the NFL with how spread it out is the
RPOs are. If you look at Kyler Murray and how
teams play him, they just try to keep in the pocket.
And Leavar just said how electric he is like running
and how quick he is, you know, because they know
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if he gets outside the pocket, that's where he could
be dangerous, running, throwing, whatever the case is. But his
biggest issue is he can't see over the middle, so
he's got to throw. If he's in the pocket, everything's
gonna be in the outside. It's got to be the
outside where he can find a throwing lane either between
the guard and tackle or outside the tackle, and that's
where he's gonna be able to have some vision. Otherwise
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he's got to take a set so deep in shotgun
when he is in the pocket that it's going to
stress those tackles in their pass protection because they're not
going to be able to pass set and not allow
that defenders to run around them. So you find yourself
in this struggle where you've got to find ways of
still being able to tack the middle of the field,
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and you can do that while implementing some creative offense
utilizing RPOs, and that's where you can kind of create
these gaps or these natural passing lanes with the way
you go about reading your RPO, your run pass option.
I'm not run play. So those are all things Bryce
Young's done for a while. He'll be successful doing it.
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But if this is twenty years ago, twenty five years ago,
he's not being talked about as the number one overall
pick it for me, it's the Alabama deal. And listen,
there haven't been crazy successful quarterbacks that have come out
of Alabama to play in the National Football League, but
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they have done well in school. I would say if
size were if that's the one criticism that you're going
to try to use against a quarterback Bryce Young being
at Alabama, I think you have to say that puts
it to bid because those linemen and those players are giants.
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They're big. So whatever it is that he needed to
figure out how to see the field and what he
needed to do to be the passer that he became
in college and has proven to be he had to
do it in college. And and that's something that when
you look at the game film, he's not. Let me
tell you something, it's hard as hell to be considered
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good at playing your your position and playing this sport.
It's it's super hard to be considered elite and it's
almost impossible to become elite in in in the college ranks,
to be the odds on favorite to go number one.
That's that's like you go walk outside, wait there, you
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have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than
you do to have the rank or the odds that
he has in his favor. Right now, that says that
the book has been written on him, and and right
now that book is a there's a positive storyline. He
overcomes what his what they would say is height deficit
or what he doesn't check off in in the eye
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tests column. He checks it off. So I think it's
more so about there's always going to be screwed when
you're having scrutiny driven events that take place. And that's
that's one hundred percent what the combine represents. So he's
the right now we're looking at just props courtesy of
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our friends at DraftKings Quarterbacks to Go, And there's somebody
that's making some ground pretty quickly here, which we can
get to later on. But right now, Bryce Young is
a one eighty five, so an overwhelming favorite CJ. Stroud
plus two seventy five, followed by Will Levis. So the
feeling is, and everybody that's talked or interacted with Bryce
Young and this is I mean, Petro's talked about this,
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you know, months ago, and Brady's brought this up, like
the character, there's no issues there whatsoever. And I think Brady,
you've made the point. If he was six to one,
this is Andrew luck type conversation, Trevor Lawrence generational talent.
It's just the size. It's just taller than that. Well yeah,
I'm just saying, but like even if he was just
six one, the discussions completely different with this guy. And
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so now we just wait to see what the plan is.
Who is going to move up to number one overall
to try and make the make the jump and take
Bryce Young If it's not going to be the Chicago Bears,
but that is the speculation. Five ten and a half,
one ninety or whatever. It is uh for Bryce four inches.
It makes a difference. It definitely does. Just say, hey,
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for those that said, tell me about to make a
difference for you, Uh, I don't know. I mean I
think it makes a difference for everyone. Okay, that's a
certain point. It makes a difference for you. I've watched
them now for a while, so I don't it doesn't
bother me. Um with where he's at. Good. You know
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you were being literally, it was literal. You were being literal.
Oh yeah, going to cheer anybody. I was going to say,
I was going to stay on my storyline, but we
went back to so all right, let's stay serious. It
doesn't matter to me. Okay, I really am okay with
him being the size that he is. I really am.
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All right. So if he's gonna put on weight, all right,
since since you can't do he's too short to drop
all the way to number seven. Yeah, that's who you want.
Burno finally a quarterback. Burno's in on for the Raiders.
You didn't want Derek Carr not a fan of Jared
stid him apparently, Aaron Rodgers. No, you're just building, just
building your excuse bank up, that's all You're going to
(09:26):
need it. You're going to need it. No faith in
Josh Mith Daniel's here too. Come on, I just don't
have any faith that their turnaround is going to be dramatic.
I just don't. Yeah, like, we've seen what they are,
what are they going to do that? So if anything,
there's the possibility they could go back based off of
(09:48):
losing their quarterback. We're gonna find out how much of
a player Car was for for Las Vegas. You know,
we might have been like, wow, wow, he's not good enough,
he's not good enough. But think about the other side
of it, like if he wasn't good enough, We're going
to find out how how bad they would have been
if they didn't have, you know, his services. That's what
(10:11):
I would have say. You know, we need to do
to get to we need to get some weight on
Bryce Young before the pro day. What one of those
uh chopper milkshakes he used to get breaking? Yeah, the
heavy weight in Yeah We two was like a Ribi
steak and peanut butter. Uh No, that wasn't anything close
to that. Okay, well sounds amazing, I mean what was
(10:33):
I feel like you literally just made that up. Possibly Listen,
I'm just reading this telepod and I don't know um
what was in this substance, but I can only guess
it's it's literally the mixture they use when you're laying bricks,
like you're going making the cubment for the bricks, like
laying between. I think that's part of the big sure.
(10:54):
So he would put that in there, probably a couple
of heaving scoops, way too big, way more than it
should have been. He'd crack a couple of eggs, he'd
throw in some I think he threw it like a
tad bit of a vanilla extract because he thought that
really tweaked the flavor for me. And then he'd mix
in probably some whole milk, and then from there, I'm
not really sure. He kind of turns back, maybe some
(11:14):
drops of eye dine, who knows. That's That's what he
would always claim where the height came from. You know,
he's like, oh, I just kind of mixing some I
dine in there. How old were you and when he
started drinking those, god, way too young. I was probably
like seven or eight, you know, because and here's the
thing is, to his credit, I wasn't a great eater,
you know, I would eat like product nineteen or total,
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and that was about it as far as like pretty
much like my meals peanut butter sandwiches, not even jelly,
just peanut butter. And I was I was pretty picky,
and so he was like I was a skinny kid,
and he was just like, I gotta do something to
put some weight on this guy. And he, you know,
went out of his way to make sure I, you know,
I was getting the protein and everything else that I needed.
So that's how job? How much did you add to
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combine two thirty three? At what height? I was six
three and seven eighth something like that, so it's just
under sixty four. Think about that. Yeah, think about how
far away Bright Young is from. And Brady hit a
growth spurt afterwards six nine three fifteen. Now you saw
him at the super Bowl. Damn jacked. Why do you
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do things like it's back on their shape? It's bar
is it not weird? I mean he's just talking about
you know, the thing about Jonas, and I've learned to
appreciate it is he's a very visually driven dude, and
he likes being visually driven through his words. So he
creates these fantasies of what what he envisioned something to be.
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So I've kind of like gotten to the point of
where I appreciate it, you know. I mean, come on,
like in his mind when he saw you at the
super Bowl, you were six nine, three hundred and fifteen pounds,
which that makes you Jersey's off of three hundred. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, I mean listen, I felt like
I was being pretty honest about they should have pained
you go before you put your clothes on. I asked
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you this, LeVar, when when you are with jonas oftentimes,
do you motivate him with visual aid like things like that. Yes,
he's sitting there shaking his head at me, like, yeah
he does, that is correct, I do, yeah, but but
not with me. Not no, no, no, not with me.
We just we just take journeys on browsing. We're browsers. Yeah.
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I didn't say braziers, I say browser. He motivates me
on on what to stay away from, like I'm really
gonna do this, right, that's exactly right. He could for
what to stay close to. Yeah, yeah, there's all that
stuff there. Be sure to catch live editions of Two
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and Jonas Knox week days at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio all Right,
top of the NFL Draft. We've speculated that maybe this
would be a possibility. Could the Seattle Seahawks take a
quarterback with the number five pick? Overall, you've obviously got
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the Bears, You've got the Texans, You've got the Cardinals
and the Colts ahead of them, and Seattle sitting at five.
And Pete Carroll and the Seahawks were hinting at yesterday
that it's very unique to them picking this high courtesy
of Russell Wilson in that awful season they had in Denver.
And there is the potential that they could look at
quarterback here, and it feels like it might make some sense.
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Geno Smith comes back, maybe you do a franchise tag,
maybe you do a short term deal. And if you've
got an opportunity, and Brady, you've talked about this guy
shooting up the draft boards. If Anthony Richardson is sitting
there at five, how do you not take a peek
at that and want to build around him, make him
the quarterback of the future, that feels like it could
be a home run. Yeah, especially if you're in a
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position where you don't necessarily have to take best player
available at that bought. And I'm not saying that the
Seahawks roster is there, but John Schneider, over the course
of his time in Seattle send such a good job
finding guys in the middle eight rounds to be impact players,
starters for them who've developed end up being Pro Bowl
caliber players that I think he feels confident that if
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he spent that pick on a quarterback, you know, Geno
Smith would be the guy for a year, kind of
a stop gap, and then they'd look to build and
build on with that next quarterback they're looking to get behind.
But he's got so much talent, so much ability to me.
To me, I think the biggest difference when we talk
about guys who have like high upside, but they might
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have a low floor. The low floor comes from lack
of experience and lack of consistency in some of the
things you see on tape. So for example, you know
when he can put together from some throws where he
snaps his feet around in the pocket, he navigates the
pocket well all the things you're gonna be asked to
do at the NFL level and delivered an accurate throw.
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You know, that's just the sort of thing that you
want to see throughout his entire you know tape in season.
Why was at Florida and you wouldn't see that. You
kind of see the ebbs and flows. And I don't
know how much of that had to do with his
supporting cast. I don't know how much of that has
to do with his you know, offensive coordinator and play calling,
and then how much of that has to do with
him and just his growth and mat surety at the position.
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But the times that you see him, whether it's the
arm strength and his ability to you know, navigate the
pocket or scramble out and just flick the ball sixty
sixty five yards down field, which I think is longest
throw on tape, the ball traveling about sixty three sixty
four yards in the air. It's it's special. I mean,
he's got some really really special traits to his ability
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to move and throw, and and he's perfectly suited for
you know, this era of football where you're not asked
to play from the pocket the entire game. You can
get outside the pocket, you can design some quarterback run game,
you can incorporate some RPOs things to make it a
little easier easier on the quarterback now they're seeing the field.
So I think it makes a lot of sense for
Seattle if they went that direction. But that has a
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lot to do too with the fact that Snyder drafted
well last year, He's drafted well in the past, and
I think he knows after that first round pick he
could still find some potential starters and guys to add
depth with the rest of the draft. If it's petty enough,
I will go with you. You draft a quarterback, whoever
it is, at that pick, and you celebrate him as
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the first coming of a real franchise quarterback to league
this team into the future. If you're if you're if
you're subscribing to being totally absurdly petty, and and that's
that's kind of where I would settle in on it.
Like it. It seems as though that would be the
final nail in the proverbial coffin of the relationship between
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Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. And I just don't think
that they've held any punches back against one another in
terms of how they take their little shots at one another.
So to take a franchise possibility caliber guy at that
five position, which I mean there will be one at five,
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I would take them. I would take it. If there's
a franchise caliber guy, I would take them. Now. Now
let me ask you guys this and I could be
off on this. Is Tyler Lockett the only one that
they have to bring back or DK is done? Right? Like?
He's not he's not up yet. Yeah, no, he's not
an extension last year. He's not right right now? What
about Tyler Lockett? I want to say he is? He?
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I don't know. I feel like he could be a
free agent or could be available. Maybe not. Here's the thing.
If you keep those two guys in place, and you
know that Pete Carroll always finds a way to run
the ball, so it's not gonna have You're not going
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to put a tremendous amount of pressure on a quarterback pluts.
You already have success in Gino right now, who could
carry them for for quite some time until that quarterback
is ready. I think it's a win. I think that's
a win to take a quarterback at five. So it
says Tyler Lockett signed a four year extension back in
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March of twenty twenty one, so he's under contract. I mean,
they got the tools, you got Kenneth Walker, Brady point
that you drafted well last year. You've got another pick
in the first round at twenty. I mean, it could
not have gone better for the Seahawks than it did
last year. They could they could really really be a
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competitive team. I mean, they showed to be a better
team than what people maybe expected they would be post
post Russell Wilson. But this really he sets the stage
for them to be a really really different I mean
they'll get don't they get Adams back, like he went
out pretty early in the year, Their their defense will improve.
He went at week one, he went out early. Yeah,
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so I mean good for good for Seattle. Good for Seattle.
I would take a quarterback if I'm them, I would
take a quarterback. I don't know if the pumpkin hit
hit Midnight with Gino Smith. I like Geno Smith. I
think it's a great comeback story. I think he did well.
But you know, these defensive coordinators get paid to do
a job too. They'll have book on him, they'll go
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over it and they'll game plan them and we'll see
if he's still able to have the type of success
he was able to have this season. What do you
think a contract looks like for Gino Smith Brady. Did
they just go franchise or they try and do something
short term and just say, hey, this is what it is.
I don't know why more teams don't use the non
exclusive franchise tag in this case, I mean allow the
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rest of the market to do the bidding for you.
You're knocking to have to pay him the premium that
you are if you're playing the exclusive franchise tag, which
is like another thirteen twelve million something like that. More so,
it saves you a bit of cap space, and I
think you'd be more than willing to say, yeah, we'll
pay you that for a one year guarantee deal because
you've played well enough. And look if you if you
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prove it two years in a row, and we happen
to draft a guy at five, then we could reevaluate
a year from now and maybe he's ready after his
rookie year, maybe he's not, Maybe we do this for
another year. But either way, you know, I'm sure Gino's
looking at cashing in. The hard part is is his age,
the gap of time at the last time at which
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he was able to do it. And I think, much
like Daniel Jones, there's there's people out there you want
to say, like, I want to see you do it
two years in a row, right then they feel much
more confident what you can be as a franchise quarterback
moving forward. The only difference with Gino is that's just
another year getting older, and so your shelf life isn't
quite as long. So you know, he might be frustrated
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by it, but I think it'd be a good, a
good opportunity to at least cash it on thirty some
million guaranteed. But that would be the route that I'd go.
And look, if you're Seattle and someone says we're willing
to pay you know, Gino Smith, this longer term deal,
it's gonna pay X. You say, all right, give me
your first round picks. Go sign into that deal. We'll
take your first round picks and we'll move forward. Now,
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that could be one route they go. Now you alluded
LaVar to the pettiness between Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll.
Pete Carroll yesterday at the Combine in Indianapolis was asked
about that report the courtesy of The Athletic, pointing out
that Russell Wilson mayor may not have tried to get
Pete Carroll and John Schneider fired. And here was Pete
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Carroll's response, a similar response that it's always been with
the guys that I've coach that I'm always going to
hang with them. I'm never going to leave them, and
I'm gonna be there at the end of all of
the good stuff and all of the bad stuff, I'm
gonna still be there. And so you know, I'm hanging on.
And it doesn't matter who the guys. If you look
at all of the guys that have come to our program,
just just not go back to the college which is
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here at Seattle, regardless of what has happened, has taken place,
or the things that have been said at all. If
you hang with them, it all comes back around. And
H I'd like to demonstrate that faith in the relationship
and the depth of what we did together and h
and hang through whatever the growth challenges bring to sit
along the way. So He's definitely the way anybody out. Yeah, what,
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but I did find a flaw though wait, wait huh.
I found a little bit of a flaw though with
Pete Carroll's thinking, um that he's always going to ride
with his guys through thick and thin basically what about
a USC Because when all of a sudden things started
to fall apart and he jumped to the NFL pretty quick.
So I was just trying to figure out whether or
not the thick and thin at USC would do you
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still hang? Yeah? Do you still have the end of
that that sound bite? Berto see, because to me, I
just listened, I look or the things that are giveaways,
and at the end he says something that's pretty interesting.
He said the growth the growth of like like insinuating that, Yeah, like,
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dude's got a lot of growing he's got to do. Like,
to me, that's that's kind of how I interpret it.
You got the end of it. Let's let's listen to
the end of what he's did and hang through whatever
the growth challenges bring to along the way. It's like,
to me, it's almost like he's taking a father. He's
obviously coaches our father figures anyway, but but to interpret it,
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like to finish it off with the growth challenges, like
it's kind of I don't know. For me, that would
be a subliminal shot. I mean, they're both intelligent dudes.
So it's like, oh, he's saying, he's saying there's a
growth thing here. Huh, Like I'm immature or something like
what what exactly do you mean? Like it could be
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again And I don't want to try to like manufact
or anything or anything like that, but I'm just saying,
when you have a coach that sits there and says
during the course of his interview that doesn't answer not
one bit what he was asked, and it's like, well,
I write with my guys. It doesn't matter who the
guy is. I write with my guys. And then you
finish it off with you know, the growth challenges. It's like, Okay,
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he'll come to us since his one day and he'll
realize it and through the good and the bad, he'll
come back and we'll hug it out and we'll be
buddies moving forward. In defense of Russell Wilson or wasn't
there a report that came out whether I think it
might have been in twenty eighteen that they were looking
at and they went and took a visit to look
at Patrick Mahomes and some other quarterbacks and something along
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those lines, and Russell Wilson found out about it and
got pissed, and there was some discussions about do we
move on from him at this point. Ultimately they signed
him to the four year extension. But it's not like
Seattle hadn't poked around at potentially replacing Russell Wilson either.
I mean, I don't know if they explicit Sidley said
he's gone, we're shopping and we don't want any part
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of him, like Russell Wilson did. But I do feel
like Pete Carroll has been guilty of this at certain
points of his career as well too, and as I
mentioned US City where he kind of bull Can we
just be real for a second. It's the NFL, like
it is the pinnacle of competition, and people and teams
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or organizations constantly trying to improve themselves, and it's cutthrought
as hell, definitely is. Even if you have success, everyone's
looking at getting better the next year, like it's nothing's
ever good enough. And even if you're the Kansas City
Chiefs right now, they're looking at how they can improve
their roster. I mean, it sounds crazy to say but
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you know, you know, eventually there might become a quarterback
that comes out that competes with Patrick Mahomes and we
look at him, might say it's better than Patrick Holmes.
You know what, every team is gonna want that guy,
Like every guy every team right now, which they had
Patrick Mahomes, the next guy that comes out that's better
than him, that's who everyone wants, and they would sacrifice
a lot of things for. It's just how it's how
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the NFL works, and so it's not impossible to think
that Seattle, even after winning a seer both Russell and
going to two, at some point didn't look at the
draft class depending on who some of those prospects were,
and didn't do their due diligence or as they should,
by the way, because you never know how things turn
out down the road where you might have the opportunity
to trade for him. You might have the opportunity where
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he becomes a free agent somehow, however that's orchestrated. You
never know what the future holds, so you have to
do all your homework on all those draft classes. No
different than the Chicago Bears right now when Ryan Poles
is like, oh, we're still going to meet with the quarterbacks.
Of course you have to. You have to because as
a general manager, you should be doing that for the
Bears organization, not knowing what two years, three years holds
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from now. And if you're Ryan Poles, you're doing it
for Ryan Poles because you don't know where you're going
to be and you might end up crossing paths with
the team in a situation where you have to have
some in depth knowledge on these players. So of course
they're going to do all their homework on these guys,
and of course they're going to talk about potentially other
quarterbacks because that's what you do. I mean, John Lynch
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has talked about that, you know, pick up the phone
and calling you know, Bill Belichick about Tom Brady back
when he's on New England. That's what good general managers do.
They make you say no, they make you say like, oh, yeah,
did you even ask if Tom Brady was available? You
don't know until you ask, or you know what the
price is until you ask, right, I Mean that's what's
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crazy is people take to heart the reality of what
the NFL is, and that is it is the most
ruthless business that's out there. I'm sure there's some that
are up next to it. But you can't allow your
emotions to get involved, Like you just can't as a player.
You just have to keep trying to do the best
you can. Focus on you focus on getting better, focused
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on winning it, being as successful as you can. But
at some point, like someone's gonna tell you you're not
good enough. Agin Like it's not like they don't tell
you that at some point along your journey, Like every
player has been told that, probably every coach at some
point I was told that. But even after your success,
someone's gonna keep telling you still can't do it again,
or you're not good enough again. Like, I just don't
know why guys get they allow these fractures to happen
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because an organizations doing what's in their best interest. I mean,
it's it just it always confuses me that no one's
real with players. They're like, yeah, dude, they're really appreciate.
If you just won them a Super Bowl. Now they're
gonna try to replace you and if they can, if
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Rich give me a hell yeah right now. We welcome
in the old pe on Twitter. Petros Papadegacy is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Browtorch Am five to seventy LA
Sports also a Fox College football analysts. Good Morning Pee,
Happy Wednesday. Hello, Hello everybody, good morning. He's going on
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not much, Petros, there's a report out that the Big
Ten is now targeting more schools from the PAC twelve.
Oh what a shot? I mean, whatever happened all that
solidarity that the PAC twelve talked about at their meetings
in Arizona the other day? What's going on there? Wasn't
there an allegiance or a pack they made or something. Yeah,
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it reminds me of the Fox Sports Seminar allegiance. Until
somebody more important comes up to talk to you, that
means you're good. You know, jeez, you get who are
you taking a shot out there? Petros? Everybody? Okay, no, no,
it's uh. This was evident, and I just I hated
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doing interviews in Seattle or other places, or traveling or
talking to the Oregon State people or the Fresno State people,
like what are your thank you think they're gonna add
us to the PAC twelve. It's like the PAC twelve
is is dead. The PAC twelve as we know it
as a major conference. How it doesn't matter as much
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when it comes to the college football playoff expansion, which
is great for everybody, I think, except for maybe the SEC.
But I believe the PAC twelve cut off a leg
and then started a ten year race with one leg
bleeding out while everybody else had two feet. I'm serious,
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like it was that stupid the way they handled their
TV deal. And I don't know how many times I've
said it or to who, but the saddest part about
it was it didn't have to happen. They didn't have
to cripple themselves with a terrible TV deal. When this
whole thing started with a terrible executive by the name
of Larry Scott, there were plenty of offers from plenty
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of networks that know how to do TV and almost
more importantly, more importantly, to be honest, have distribution. And
that's not what the PAC twelve did. And for the
last ten years they've killed themselves. Finally, the two smartest
and most recognizable and most lucrative brands in the biggest
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city in the conference jumped off the ship to another
ship right before the PAC twelve was sinking. So revenue wise,
the PAC twelve will never ever be the same. It
might not even have a name like that anymore. And yeah,
those teams are going to play big time college football.
Yeah they're gonna have a TV deal because the time
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slots have to be filled and people have to play
at night, and they're not going to kick it off
at ten o'clock on the East Coast, at least not
right now in our society. Although they did tip a
game at nine o'clock in Utah the other night in
college basketball on the PAC twelve, which is stupid. But
it's over and it's hard for people to accept. But
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when SC and UCLA left, the whole thing ended. In
Oregon and Washington are going to look for a way out.
And the problem with the Big ten is they want
to bake a big new pie before they start slicing people,
like or in Washington in you know what I'm saying.
They don't want to slice off a little slice of
their pie and give it to the freaking ducks. You
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ever been to Eugene, please, Well, I was just gonna
ask you, so, like it always makes sense for Oregon
and Washington say yeah, like we want to join the party,
or for the Big ten to go yeah, the more
of the marry. Let's bring in two bigger brands. They
rate pretty well. And it would make sense too, probably
if you're trying to figure out scheduling to be able
to have like a whole West Coast swing, if you will.
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But we all know traveling partners, right, but we all
know behind this, the TV partners aren't like, well, we're
not gonna pay you, more like you're just gonna have
to divvy up more of what's there. That doesn't work
realistically though, does it. No, so they have to have
a new TV deal. I think it was pretty evident, Brady,
when the guy, the Big ten commissioner that's gone to
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the Chicago Yeah Warren, really early in this process he
said something like, we're gonna add We're gonna add the Stanford,
we're gonna add cow we're gonna add Washington, and we're
gonna add Oregon. And then somebody I'm assuming at Fox
said no, you're not. And then next thing you know,
a month later he's working at the Big ten minute,
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I mean, he's not working there anymore, and he's over
for the Chicago Bears. So everybody's under somebody else's control,
and it's all about big macro dollars moving. It's not
an extra fifty g's for this, it's not an extra
fifty g's for that. We're talking about over the years
of these contracts, billions of dollars so I get it.
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But you're right, Brady, A new pie will have to
be baked for the ducks and the Huskies' delicious to
get it. If you like money, it's real tasty. You
know what's else's tasty is TikTok's you know this dance?
You know what? I'm not posting. I'm not sending you
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anything anymore. What's what do you mean TikTok? No? I
just I can't. I have a hard time understanding why
adult man, Petro, she went to USC aren't you doing TikTok? So?
I know right, there's like a whole school for it.
I just don't understand why adult men have have turned
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to this medium. I mean, I get it that poor
Britney Spears husband has to hold up the camera for
her while she spots and turns around over and over
and over and over. And she go back to that
Shonaed O'Connor haircut anytime soon. By the way, Hey, there's
nothing wrong with shanedo O'Connor. Okay, she's had a few
psychotic episodes as well. But shined O'Connor has a great,
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not a good, A great reggae album from yes from
about fifteen years ago, she went down to Jamaica the
Tough Gong Studios. She got together the best drum based
combo maybe in world history. One of them just died, though,
Robbie Shakespeare in Slyde Dunbar, and put together an all
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star band of musicians. I mean, people don't understand how
integrated reggae music and Jamaican music is with British and
Irish people and the Scots. Yeah, uh and uh. It's
very very relevant, like you know, songs like Uptown, top
Ranking and stuff like that they heard when they were
growing up. So she, I mean she that's a great
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I think it's called throw down Your Arms and she
covers you know, Peter taj Burning Spear, even a Boogei
Bontan song. It's a hell of an album, you Petro.
I would have never thought Janaye O'Connor would have done that.
She's a fabulous musician. I mean, she's you know, she
ripped up the thing of the Pope and it upset
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a lot of Catholicos, of course on Saturday Night Live,
and it made h It made Frank Sinatra mad. Remember
he was like, I'll kick her ass right out of
the country and uh. But but honestly, her music, I
mean her biggest song is a Prince cover. That's a
cover of a Prince song. So she's kind of a voice,
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you know, like she she's written some songs, I'm sure,
but her her voice is really irrelevant. And so yes,
shanide O'Connor, Emperor's New Clothes a good song to look
for with her fabulous artist and with Saint Patty's Day
come up around the corner, it's appropriate. Yeah, And she
just doesn't stand in one place and just rock back
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and forth looking ominous like Britney Spears does. Yeah. Wow, said,
has a good voice. Britney, I don't even know what
to ask. I had a question, but I'm sorry was
about it was about football. But I'll tell you one thing.
Leave arms date came out to the Rose Bowl and
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whooped Kyle Whittingham's asked, I mean they took it to
Kyle Winningham's flat top like no other it was. I
was there, who whoa, whoa? What do you have you
think as a flat top? Is that what you'd call that?
Not now? But he used to hull, I'm used trusting
out with the flat top. I don't know why it's
just the most trustworthy haircut. The flat top came back,
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like really came back. Well, you had the guys in
the Back to the Future, but remember remember Beavis and
butt Head. Yeah they had the flat top pe teacher
guy me in the Jimmy who had the flat top
was a kid er play kid. Yeah that play had
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a flat top two but kids was super high. I
wouldn't consider that like the flattop o' time. I'm talking
more like the kind of high and tight flatsop you're
talking about, like white guy military flat top. Right, Yeah,
Like God, I feel like I grew up and I
feel like every time I see it flat So I'm like, oh,
you can trust this guy. He's you know, probably gonna
be on time, probably gonna be a minute. Dude. I
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was at my sister's yoga studio the other day and
it's probably gonna be on time and exactly and dude,
dude rolled in right on time, I might add you.
And he looked exactly like Guile. So you didn't hear me.
So you did, are like Ivan Drago. You know, it's like,
give me the trustworthy haircut. That's a flat top trustworthy
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to shoot you that's I was about to say, that's cultural.
Then I saw Christopher. I saw Christopher. Kids were different
for an argument community, Well, yeah, you are a dancer,
you are difference flat tops? Does pac Man have a
flat top? And wait does he? No? Sean Pin have
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a flattop? And let's look it up. This important stuff
here all right, doing it live on the air. I mean,
it's a fine line between a short haircut on a
man and a flat top. Money and uh Color, Money
and Neo have flat tops. Let's see, uh Man, he
definitely does not know he does. No, that's too bad.
(41:00):
He's actually got a nice flow going. Yeah, that's too bad.
I saw Christopher kid read once at the Marley's Bar,
and Phoenix laid out, just laid out, hand on the ball.
He gets it in, Kid gets it in, he stayed.
Did he have the flattop going? No, No, it's like
curly now little steaks. Hey, maybe that's what Bryce Young
(41:21):
should do. Grow out a flatop. We'll get to six
one in a heartbeat copy that. I mean, we all
saw flatch six four six nine with the affronts. Yeah,
that's not a flattop. That's not a flat that's too bad.
Good hair though. All right, well, all right, Petros, is
there anything else you guys? No, he just were we
(41:43):
called about Shande O'Connor. We needed that cleared up, literally
putting it on. She's had some problems, sand has had
some issues beyond just ripping the pope's picture. Yeah, she's
had some you know. She she got married for like
two hours. She's kind of a little bit like Britney Spears,
but much more talented. And she has a giant chest
(42:03):
piece tattoo. Now, yeah she does. I saw that, chess Peace.
There's a picture of her. There's a picture of her
with a lung dart and shut out. Well, there's more
and more people now that like women that'll go to
the tattoo place and just get their whole chest blasted out,
and it's like, dude, what are you? What are you doing?
I mean I had a response for that, Petro. She
(42:24):
shut out chest piece? She does. Look at that's just
shut out chess piece. Yeah, I mean, look at that thing,
chest piece, chess peace. She got a tattoo on the
side of her head too, I think does she have
a head tattoo? I think so. The neck tattoo was
the real used to be the middle finger to society,
and then the face tattoo came, which is truly the
(42:47):
middle finger to God. Face tattoo. I mean, you ain't
been in jail, dude, Come on now, I mean she
looks like a remioff hire learning in some of these pictures.
Oh wow, I dare you? I'm just saying she does?
Am I lying? Am I lying? Well? Look, life has
been hard. Okay, Well, I'm gonna stay out of this.
(43:09):
It's a move or fair that it could incriminate me. Why, well,
you know that's fair. You know, movies used to come out,
you know, and people would not think much about like
what what was in him? I mean remember Revenge of
the Nerds. Look straight up, he raped that girl. Jesus
the freaking fader maask guy? Oh and everybody? Oh, and
(43:32):
what about the Wasn't that a hate crime if you
put a naked picture out of it? Somebody? Yeah? I mean, dude,
those guys are all going to jail. That's I think
they call. Yeah, the whole Revenge of the Nerds. They
It is interesting no one ever calls out like those
old flicks, you know. Yeah, I mean, if you put
if you put a bunch of nerds calling everyone out.
(43:54):
If you put a bunch of icy hot, Like if
you put icy hot on everybody's jockstrap on the football team,
you go to jail's hurt. Everybody's pootso off. That's crazy there,
what the pot? It's a Greek wort hey? What would
Don Martin say if he found out there were people
putting icy hot on jockstraps in the locker room? My
(44:15):
man Alfred real Williams. I mean he sat on the
top for four d eight. Petros, one last question for you.
Is it true that Greeks invented sex? Is that true? No,
we were the first to document anals. Oh wow, yep,
I knew that. I knew that. I knew that one
we wrote it down. We were the first to write
(44:36):
it down. At the old pe Petros, Papa ac is uh,
he's he going better for that? Petros will do to
get next week hopefully. There he is asking a question,
you'll get it on his answer to that. We are
(44:57):
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