March 13, 2023 • 38 mins
On today’s 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn celebrate the 3 week sport that is the Men’s Basketball Tournament, even though blue bloods are struggling. Mark Murphy makes it clear that Aaron Rodgers time in Green Bay is over. Plus, a golf heavy edition of ICYMI.
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way tire buying should be. Brady Quinn March Madness is
back and the damn brackets are out. How excited are
you the brackets are out? I'm excited. I do think
for someone who didn't really watch a ton of college
basketball this year, I watched the decent amount, but not
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a ton. I do have my opinions on the bracket,
which I think is pretty funny because like, everyone's got
an opinion on the bracket and who should have been
the number one overall seed and who got screwed and
who didn't. Like, everyone's got an opinion on that and
yet no one really watched all of these teams, because
no one it's not possible to watch three hundred plus
teams play basketball this season and really have a true
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opinion in all of this, especially in the middle of
football season. I mean, let's let's just call it what
it is. And for college basketball, who I think is
pretty much resigned itself to the fact that it's, you know,
it's a three week sport now at this point, I mean,
it's about the tournament. Like you got all these NFL stories,
all this stuff popping up, and then you've got obviously
the end season stuff and the playoffs, and then by
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the time you finally catch your breath, all of a sudden,
we're basically in conference in conference play late in the season,
and then we got conference tournaments. Although I do want
to say just first and foremost obviously difficult day yesterday
for Purdue, who really really tried as hard as they
could to lose that game to Penn State. I mean,
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they tried, and so it's unfortunately they were unsuccessful in
doing so, and they actually did hold on to win.
So that's unfortunate. Yeah, we are, Yeah, they're they're dropping
out for full of our there. Yeah, I mean, what
the hell like the late game execution for Purdue was
as bad as it as you could POSSI sound like
someone who had money on Purdue. No, now, listen, broadcast professional,
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I don't gamble on that. I couldn't get a bet
at in time. Basically it's what happened. But I mean
I personally don't really care how you win him and
how as you win them. Yeah, Purdue has been dominant
all season Long's it's no surprise Zach and he has
been phenomenal, So the outcome wasn't a surprise. How they
got there was Again, I personally, especially in tournament time,
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no one remembers the close calls, a close calls you
had on your way to a Final four appearance. So
that's all this is really about at this point. Well,
I mean, listen, it's like your guy John Calipari said
back in the day, just land the plane. Doesn't matter
there's going to be some turbulence in the tournament. Just
land the plane, get the win and then and then
move on to the next round. So I did hear
a lot of conversation over the weekend though, as we
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were ramping up for the brackets to come out. As
far as what really a Final four appearance like, Is
it that creatives of an accomplishment? Is it not that
great of an accomplishment? I personally look at it and
think there's there's probably some years where you've got teams
who are one seeds that have an easy path. But
you know, when when you think about the setup of
the tournament itself, there's no other playoff format that we
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have where the number one seed doesn't have home fielded.
Now they might that might be close to where they're from,
but they don't have home court advantage. And you know, yeah,
you're matched up versus a sixteen seed in some cases
and all that, but after that, the matchups get pretty interesting.
And it's a single elimination, So it only takes one
game where you're not shooting well, the opponent happens to
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be going lights out, and you're in trouble. I actually
think it's one of the reasons why we haven't seen
a repeat champion since what Florida. So the last team
to do it back in the Billy Donovan era and
then the mid two thousands, Yeah, that was the the
al hore for teams back then. Joking. Yeah, yeah, it is.
That That's why when people talk about going to the
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final four, I still like, you don't have buy weeks.
There's no like, it's not like, to your point, like
any other thing that we watch in sports. So if
you can make a run and get hot, and then
you don't have a lot of time to prepare for
these games because you're playing a game and then you
get done, you're waiting to see who you play. You've
got you've got to turn and burn, you know, you're
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you're you're just looking at everything and researching and breaking
everything down, and then you go right back into another game.
And the best case scenario is, well it's in your region. Okay,
well that's cool, but it's not. It's still not a
home game. So to your point, I look at it
and I go, I don't care what year it is.
How strong quote unquote the field is. If you can
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get to a final four, that's accomplishing something like that's
and so when people talk about, well Jim Baheim didn't
do enough, Okay, well five final fours, I don't know,
that's kind of cool, Like you know, I mean, I
know he only won one national title, but to be
able to go on a run like that depending on,
you know, whatever the bracket looks like or whatever teams
you face on your way there. I still think it's
an accomplishment, Okay, And the reason why I bring this
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up is because it comes out of seating, so if
you go through the bracket. Some people feel like Kansas
got host in part because, look, they've played in the
toughest conference, which I think is the opinion of people
buy and large, the Big Twelve this year, which has
been phenomenal, There's no doubt about it. Even though they
obviously got blown out in the Big Twelve championship game,
they still at least got to the championship of that conference. Anyway,
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some people thought they should have been that the second
number one seed overall, which I believe would have given
them a path that would have gotten them to it
the Sweet sixteen in Kansas City, and instead now they're
going to be going to Las Vegas, which you'd imagine
Kansas City, Missouri. There actually is a Kansas City, Kansas
by the way, A lot of people don't know that,
but those Sweet sixteen games would be Kansas in Kansas City, Missouri,
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at least closer Lawrence, Kansas or where the campus is,
and so it would have provided a bit of you know,
I guess you'd say a home court advantage for a
couple more games, but that sort of thing usually very
rarely exists, and in the case of Kansas, because of
the seeding, they now don't have that opportunity. I mean,
it was almost like the committee actually used that against
them to make a case for maybe why they shouldn't
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be the number two overall seed, at least as a
number one seed in this case. But whatever the case is,
I'm excited for it. I know they've talked about expanding
the field past the sixty eight that now get in
with the two playing games. I'm not a fan of that.
I think to your point earlier about you know, the
fact that this has become a three week sport, it
really has to a degree, maybe you'd say a four
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week sport with the convents tournaments added, and only because
it does allow some of those teams to punch their ticket.
But I don't feel like there's as much of a
buzz about this year's tournament as compared to maybe some
years past. And I don't know if that's because you
don't have like a team like North Carolina that's a
blue blood that was a part of the tournament last year,
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playing in the finals and obviously didn't even make it
this year. Not sure what you attribute that too, but
it feels like as college football continues to make itself
more of a national sport, less regionalized basketball hasn't really
followed suit, even though the tournament in itself is more
of a nationally consumed deal. It just it seems like
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there's there's so many teams, there's so many times you
focus on them. Is that maybe one of the problems
with the tournament is you've got in with the exception
of one one seed in Virginia one year that lost
to a sixteen seed. We look at some of those
smaller schools that get an opportunity like hey, thanks for
coming out, but that's the end of it, like that,
that's all you get, And there's maybe some meaningless games
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that are played in this In your mind, to me,
I don't know that they need any I don't know
that there's buzz that they necessarily need going into the
tournament anymore. I think they've got their pocket, they've got
their three to four week stretch in the sports calendar,
and they're going to be successful every single year because everybody,
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even if you haven't watched a single second of college basketball,
somebody you work with, somebody you bump into, everybody's doing
a bracket. Fox Sports Radio has got a bracket challenge.
We're going to give out details on that and how
you can compete against us and other listeners and all that.
I just look at it and I go, it is
what it is like. College basketball is always going to
have this niche. There's been a lot of discussions about
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this season, and you know, Alabama being the one seed
with all the off the court issues and then being
number one overall. I just view it as, yeah, we're
not so caught up in the moment right now. But
the second Thursday rolls around, and you've got all these
men around the country scheduling vasectomes and you know, putting
these fake screen savers at work so people can't figure
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out whether or not you're actually watching the games or
being productive at work. Like all of that stuff just
plays into what it is. And as the week goes on,
it's going to start to ramp up, and once Thursday
gets here, all bets are off I still think it's
going to be the same interest, the same fun, the
same craziness. We're going to see some upsets. It happens
every single year. I just don't look at it with
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any sort of concern. Other sports like the NBA that
are still trying to figure out how they want to
market their league and how they want to brand their
league and when who would they want to cater two
and all that, But when it comes to college basketball,
I just think it is what it is. You get
your three or four week on the sports calendar, on
your sport calendar, you're gonna hit out of the park,
you're gonna have your Final four, and then you just
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disappear and you wait until the NFL cools off next February.
That's it. I don't know. I don't know that I
look at it quite the same. I think the problem
with the sport is it's become a three four week
sport because they haven't necessarily made the adjustments. Are changes
they've needed to in order to make this more than that.
At least that's how I feel about it. I mean,
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when I think about Gonzaga and what Gonzaga used to
be two decades ago and maybe more than that before
Mark Few got there and what he's done, and now
you look at what they are. They were a Cinderella story.
They're not a Cinderella story anymore. They're looked at as
almost a powerhouse. I think some young UN's probably look
at them and say, oh, they're a blue blood and
a disappointment. And they looked at as a disappointment because
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they can't get over the hump. Well I'm not I'm
not going in that direction. What I'm saying is I
don't know that you can get many of the programs
that fall into that category where in two decades from
now we look at and I don't know, maybe you
look at Oral Roberts. Some people call it Bobby Moe.
Maybe maybe you look at an Oral Roberts or said
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the Robert Morris. But but maybe you look at a
smaller school like that and say, okay, they've they've made
the tournament. However many times they've got a reputation. They're
looked at as one of those Hey they're gonna be
a double digit seed, but look out for them. They
can pull off an upset. You know. Sometimes you see
those teams or those programs in the tournament. You go, oh, yeah,
I've heard of them before. Yeah, they could pull off
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an upset here and there. The reality is, with the
direction that college sports are going, you know, these schools
are at such a disadvantage in regards to the resources
that they can provide versus the Power five conferences. And
I know we don't talk about that college basketball because
you have so many schools and now we've adopted the
phrasing of quad one wins quad two wins, and that
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can be an ever changing landscape depending on how a
team's trending. But the majority of quad one wins when
we're talking about those teams are programs that are a
part of conferences that are viewed that Power five are
getting a ton more resources or revenue generated from TV
contracts that are helping out those athletic departments. And I
just think the gap is only get bigger, it's not
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going to get smaller. And if you're a transfer portal,
you know, if you're a kid looking again the transfer
portal from Northern Kentucky, for example, there's gonna be way
more attractive options and much bigger programs. And I think
the differentiator is huge between the small schools who have
nots and the big schools that are the haves. So
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I know you feel like there's no issue with it,
but I think moving forward the tournaments, it's never gonna
fall by the wayside because how special it is and
the moments that it can create. But I think college
basketball is losing its grip on trying to create, especially
as college football looks to expand their playoff and everything
else and they're you know, continuing to grow and getting
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more market share. I don't know that you can say
that college basketball has done that, Like, I don't know
that it's as big as it used to be. When
when I was a little kid buying Final Four t shirts,
I don't even know if I used to like any
of the teams that were in the Final Four. I
just thought it was the coolest thing. Time was one
of the greatest things ever. And now I don't see
kids walking around doing that. I don't see kids as
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invested as they used to be. And look, this could
be a byproduct of you know, kids being a one
and done now. You know, back then you kind of
had a degree of that, but it wasn't as common
and it's a bit more common now. I'm not sure
exactly what you attributed to. I just feel like it's
a great time of the year. It's one of my
favorite times of year. I hope that doesn't change. But
I have this sensor feeling that it might be kind of,
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you know, heading in that direction where it's getting left
but left in the dust compared to some of those sports. Well.
I think it's also that it's another example of why
nerds have ruined so much of what we grew up with. See,
when you grow up like we do on the mean
streets in the Midwest, you know, it's not like nowadays
where these kids go on snap face and TikTok and
tweet out some video dancing about what their favorite team did.
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You know what you and I used to have to do.
We used to have to either print out our bracket
or cut one out of the newspaper and then risk
getting all that newspaper inc all over our hands so
that we could fill out our brackets. And you had
to do it in pen because you didn't want any
scumbag doing it in pencil and then going back afterwards
and erasing it. They don't know what that's like now.
Now they just go on TikTok or some of these
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other lame sites. They do some music videos, some knockoff
dance video that looks like some en Vogue remake from
the nineties, and then they think to themselves, Oh, look
at me, I finally made it to the tournament, and
here are my picks. Not like you and I, they've
ruined it for us. I refuse to let that happen.
Break out those old final four shirts and let's make
the tournament grade again. Brady Quinn, that's what you and
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I need to do, and we could give the charge.
By the way, I did ever tell you I ran
a pool one time in junior high, which was like
completely against did you really? So? So I had to
like go straight under cover with like all my buddies
in doing it, and here was the only issue the rounders.
Wow kind of So I was like collecting money from
all my buddies like in between class and was kind
of like low key. I mean, this is gonna be
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hard for people to believe. But it was before cell phones, folks,
So you actually had to like in between class go
and like try to figure out a way of like
telling my buddy, hey, come on, I saw when you
get a chance, you know, hey, then you need to
pay up being your twenty bucks blah blah blah. So
like I created this whole pool, and as we're going
through the tournament, and I'm obviously keeping track of all this,
and I would give everyone At that point, we did
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have email, so I'd give him everyone from my my
AOL account and email update. The problem was I won
the tournament, and I was like, there's no way I'm
gonna be able to keep the money. Everyone's gonna think
the fixes in. So I literally had to award it
to the second place guy. And I just like basically
just like like, yeah, you jumped on the grenade because
I was like, oh, there's no way I'll be accused
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of cheating in this. I'm not gonna able to take
credit of it. So I literally had to give away
off the money, even though I had the best bracket.
If it was on the up and up, who cares
if they suck at their picks? Why is that your problem?
They didn't stink. But the problem was it was going
to be contestant. I was like, oh, yeah, of course
the guy's running it and has all the cash, You're
just gonna go ahead. And keep it, which at that
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point in time, it would have probably you know, been
a pretty shady move, but the cash would have been great.
I was just like, yeah, I can't do this to
my buddies, like they would accuse me of being a
cheater forever. How much cash were talking about? Um, I
think we had. It was like it was a good
amount because I think we ended up having like twelve
guys do it right, so like two hundred forty bucks.
It was a twenty dollars buying take all. Yeah, and
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at that age that's a lot of money. Yes, that's
probably a new bike back then. Yep. I mean you're talking,
you're talking about this point in my life. That's like
the late nineties. Like that's for sure a nice bike,
maybe even a couple of baseballs or a baseball mid
depending on if it was a nice rawlings that came
out hard of the hide, you wouldn't know anything, Yes,
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heard of the hide. But I was more of a
Mazzuno guy myself. You know, they were really worked well.
I mean that's just the way baseball, baseball gears. Yeah, okay, yeah, um,
but here's what you should have done. And this is
just forward thinking and I feel like you would have
gone in this direction had you kept the money. What
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you should have done is then go buy some knockoff
Final four T shirts and then resell those for like
ten dollars more than you bought them for. And next thing,
you know that two forty turns e and do an
even bigger profit for you. I mean, talk about the
wheeling and dealing in on the street to Dublin that
Brady Quinn look at you. That's how you gotta started. Man. Yeah,
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Fortunately I couldn't find that a knockoff T shirts. You know,
they I'm not really sure how that works, but they
pretty much just had the standard ones at the grocery
store that we go and buy and usually turn it
into a cutoff. Although in those days, not that the
kids would remember this, but remember Carrie Kittles at Villanova
where he'd cut off He'd cut off his off shooting arm,
but then his shooting arm would still have the T
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shirt sleeve. That became the fad, like everyone was doing
what Carry Kittles was doing. But that's what I'm talking about. Like,
think about back in the day, you had a lot
of these like iconic figures or like the cutoff that
Ray Allen wore was like the perfect cutoff, and everyone
wanted to have the yukon like Ray Allen cut off
underneath their jersey the way he did it. But you
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I just I don't feel like the kids have the
same connection to these athletes the way we used to.
And I don't know what exactly to draw that, you know,
draw that conclusion to outside of the fact that I
don't know that college basketball has kept up with other
sports and continuing to kind of grow and relate its
game to the masses, even the younger generations. I mean,
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there was nothing. You knew the tournament was back, see
because you know people are gambling at middle school or
high school in Dublin, Ohio. But also you knew because
you'd have these guys for no reason whatsoever. And I
still have not gotten an explanation that makes any sense
that are wearing T shirts underneath their jerseys while they're playing.
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I still to this day have not gotten an explanation
that makes any sense whatsoever. Why are you wearing a
T shirt underneath your jersey? Yes, just sets a really
easy explace. Okay, what's the explanation? Well, first off, like
the jerseys didn't feel great when you'd sweat in them,
especially when they're like a mesh material, so you'd usually
want a T shirt to absorb some of the sweat.
Sometimes guys didn't like how they felt, you know, on them,
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Like there's just the material in general, or even the look.
And by the way, it gets cold, dude, like when
you're wearing a jersey and shorts and you don't have
much else. That's why you have warmups on sitting on
the bench because you get cold. So usually having another
shirt on another land underneath kind of helps you keep
a little bit warm, feels a little bit better, and
absorb some that sweat so when you're going in and
out of the game it's not as bad. Like that's
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actually the easiest thing. That's like not wearing an undershirt
when you're wearing your football pads and be incredibly uncomfortable.
That's but but again, that's why we're different, all right,
because I operated with no shirt underneath. Just let it
fly and you deal with whatever rash you got coming
to you. About winning, I do with my son every
day every no no, no no outside on a real hoop,
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like in an actual like basketball setting, about a month ago. Yeah,
there's one. There's one of my mom's house. Yeah, we
have one in the backyard. Fired up a little bit. Yeah,
but I mean that's but again, you just let no,
you shoot around for a few minutes, you get them.
You never leave on a miss either. You always make
your last shot and then you walk away. So I
was there for quite some time. Well something too. Let
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me tell you. I'll say this though, I'm I'm entering
like another level when it comes to those little Fisher
Price kids hoops. My son and I get after it
like it's like a three point shootout and he can't
hang at all. It's to the point now where my
lade has grown and now I'm shooting left handed, like
I'm gonna start shooting with my feet pretty soon, just
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to rub it in even more. He's got to pick
up his game. Well. It talks a lot of trash
and how young he is. He talks a lot of Hey,
by the way, I would also like to say that
thing you were telling me about daylight savings messing with kids.
Yeah that's correct, Yeah, that was correct, thank you. Yeah,
how's everyone doing out? They got up a yeah a
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I believe it was the year before, we started a
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fun little game like right around this time, and it
was called Weekend at Murphy's. And it was because Mark Murphy,
the president of the Green Bay Packers, he just has
this ability to just not really consider sometimes how things
that he could say could be construed to the outside
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world and maybe how it might, you know, hurt some
feelings or maybe piss off certain people in the organization.
He just lets it fly. And so this past weekend,
Mark Murphy decided to talk with Fox in Green Bay
on Friday night, and he was asked just a couple
of simple questions about the Aaron Rodgers situation. Normally we
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get some canned responses and canned answers from people in
a position of power like Mark Murphy is and oh, no,
Weekend at Murphy's is back. Take a listen. Is there
a scenario where Aaron is still the starting quarterback of
the Packers next season? Yeah, I mean, unless if things
don't work out the way we would want him. Yeah,
But you know, I think it's trying to find what
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he wants and what we want and hopefully we can
find a win win situation. If he requests the trade,
will you honor it? Yeah? Oh yeah we would yeah, okay, yeah,
all right, there it is. Now, Well would I appreciate
the most? And I want to play the sound again,
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just listen at the tone at which Mark Murphy talks
and again and taking to account these things. Right, you're
talking about a player who's a first ballot Hall of Famer,
four time MVP, won a Super Bowl for you. He
happened to have followed up Brett Farve, and which is
tough to do, right, Like, I think one of the
more underrated things Aaron Rodgers has done, and it probably
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to me, and just as a former player like stands
up there amongst his accomplishments on the field, is like
being the guy to actually fill in for those shoes.
Like It's one thing to be like touted in a
first round pick they traded to to get you, but
it's another thing to actually say, like, oh yeah, and
I played behind Brett Farve who's a Hall of Famer,
first ballot Hall of Famer, and uh yeah, I actually
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also became a whole flamer and brought that same organization
the Super Bowl and won four MVPs. Like that in
and of itself is in probably hard to do, and
I think a lot of people can relate to that.
Who's ever had to step in to fill in for
someone who's just phenomenal in what they do. But listen
to just how and as a matter of fact, Mark
Murphy talks what he's absolutely like a haymaker to the
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chances of Aaron Rodgers being back with Green Bay. Hold
and listen one more time. Is there a scenario where
Aaron is still the starting quarterback of the Packers next season? Um? Yeah,
I mean unless if things don't work out the way
we would want him. Yeah, but you know, I think
it's trying to find what he wants and what we
want and hopefully we can find a win win situation.
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He leads off with a jab and he's like, yeah,
if things that work all the way we want him,
Just after, you want to go out sometime, Yeah, nobody
else comes along. I mean, for sure, I had to
go out with you. Yeah, I know, if everyone else
on the planet dies and you're the only person left, sure,
I think that'd be a yes, you know what, yeah, absolutely,
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of course you'd be my last option. Why not the
lesson ideal choice? It is phenomenal stuff. Rogers also was
at a charity event with Brandon Marshall talking over the weekend,
and he just h he just kind of, you know,
was talking with Brandon Marshall about the scenario, the meeting
with the Jets, and Brandon Marshall tried to really slow
(26:23):
play it at first. He tried to just ask him
some questions about the charity game and how he was performing,
and then he decided, you know, so now that we've
gotten that all out of the way, you know, why
don't we get to some of the other good stuff here.
There's been some rumblings about you maybe meeting with the Jets.
This is obviously on the heels of Aaron Rodgers going
underground for a short time and hanging out with golfers
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and earthworms and the rest of the people that like
to smoke weed underground. And so here was Brandon Marshall
and Aaron Rodgers talking at this charity tournament over the weekend.
How was it meeting Woody Johnson? How was that meetings?
You know, it's always a shouting reporting figures in the sport. Yeah,
it's always interesting. That's all I'm getting from just there.
Now stay yeah, I think I won't be long. There's
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the time as a time limit from Yeah. So that's uh,
this is about wrap it up here. It's over. The
Rogers time in green Bay, the Aaron Rodgers Aaron green
Bay is over, and now it's just a matter of
whether or not he wants to play and whether or
not they he ends up playing for the New York Jets,
because there's no I don't imagine any possible way he
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goes back to Green Bay, especially after Mark Murphy's comments
over the weekend it's over. Yeah. You know what's sad
about all this because we talked about the potential of
this happening last year, and it feels like the only
thing keeping this from happening a year prior is the
fact that he was coming off an MVP season. I mean,
that's the reality how this past season happened two years ago.
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You're probably hearing that same narrative, that same Mark Murphy
comments an interview. Um, it just it felt like they
were waiting for the moment after they drafted Jordan Love.
The running was on the wall. They were waiting for
the moment to move on from him. Yeah, and they
and they couldn't because he had two back to back
MVP seasons and they were a fourteen win team, a
thirteen win team, Like, there's just there's no way they
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could sell that to their fan base. And I think
this year, because the way the season went, they go
eight to nine, they don't make the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers
still had a good year. It wasn't a great year,
but it's a good year, and they had some moving parts.
But that combined with you know, kind of almost playing
into everything that he's become, you know, being so open
(28:44):
off the field, almost pushed that narrative and played into it, right,
the immunization comments, the the you know, iowa Iawuasca or
whatever the hell it was, he's taken, Like they almost
played that up too, to a degree where it made
it for them to move on in this relationship. Yeah,
it just it feels like this is just delayed, delayed, delayed,
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and now's the time and now we go forward. I'm
just I'm curious to see how Rogers plays this because
he's been so he wants to be able to control
the messaging and how this stuff gets out. And that's
not a knock on Aaron Rodgers. He has every right
to do that, especially considering and we've talked about this before,
all the crap that's been said about him publicly, not
even just the immunization stuff, but the coverage of his
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family dynamic and his relationship with his family and all that.
There's he doesn't trust a lot of people in the media,
you can tell, and rightfully so. So I think he
wants to be able to get this out and be
able to control how the message lands because I do
think his relationship and his fondness of the people and
the fans in Green Bay is real, Like, I think
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that that means a lot to him, and he wants
to make sure he goes out and with the proper
respect paid towards them. And I'm just curious when and
how he does it. Does he just go on McAfee
shows starring AJ Hawk and drop it there? Does he do,
you know, his own little tribute video and that's how
he makes the announcement. I'm just curious how that messaging
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gets out because I think that's really important to him.
I think he wants to be I think he wants
to be in charge of how this lands with the
City of Green Bay, and I just don't know how
that happens, or does he just retire because everybody assumes
he's going to come back for the fifty eight fifty
nine million dollars and him just say no, no, no,
this was never about money for me. I'm still on
(30:33):
my journey trying to discover myself. I don't need your money.
I'll just walk away. That's why. That's why I want
to see how this lands. And I think this is
probably maybe the week or and the next couple of
days is going to go down for Aaron Rodgers. But
the one thing that's lingering out there is the idea
that he doesn't want to retire the same year as
Tom Brady. Does You know, if Tom Brady ultimately is
going to go into the Hall of Fame, it'd be
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the same year as Rogers if they retired. And I
don't think he wants to play second fiddle to Tom Brady.
And you know, when you talk about his mentioning to
the fans and maybe the decision of when he wants
to drop whatever news it's going to be It feels
like he's cognisent of his legacy and how this impacts
that and how it looks. You know, this is one
of those I'm gonna take my talents to South Beach
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type moments where you're gonna remember whatever words or however
this is done by Aaron Rodgers, and when he leaves
Green Bay, like Packers fans will never forget it, you know,
Cleveland Cavaliers fans, even though Lebron came back and brought
them a championship, they'll still never forget him leaving the
first time and how it was done and what was said. Right.
So I think Aaron Rodgers is very conscious of that.
(31:39):
I do wonder this because I don't think retiring is
in play here for that reason, amongst the money and
everything else. But what if Tom Brady came back to play?
What of him is if he called Tom and say, Tom,
what are you doing? Are you just sitting this thing
out for a while? Are you trying to come back
and play another year, maybe with the Miami Dolphins or
someone else. And if that was actually in play still,
(32:03):
I wonder if then the possibility of him retiring would
come in where he just says nope, I'm done, and
then that way they would be on separate paths knowing
what he knows moving forward. Yeah, I mean, I think
there's a point zero zero one percent chance of that
being the case. But it would be interesting to think
if those two had talked and they'd be on the
(32:24):
same page in regards to what's happening out there. I
know that Tom Brady said that he doesn't want Aaron
Rodgers to retire. This was a few weeks ago, because
he thinks, you know, he's too good a player and
we need good players in this league. So I know
that Tom Brady was on record saying that. So I
don't know if that. I do think the idea of
either of them retiring, taking a year off and coming
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back to me, I'm just I don't see it. I
don't At their age, I don't think that makes any sense.
So it will see what happens. I think there will
be a decision or something's gonna be made this week.
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Scottie Scheffler reclaimed the number one spot in the golfing
world after winning the Players Championship. He shot seventeen under par,
more than five strokes better than the next guy. What
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Like how old is is Mary? You said her? It
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had she had her um uh. I guess you call
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It's not a stroll or you know, a walking assisting
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what do you call those like like a walker? Walker,
thank you, thank you? A walker? Yeah, there you go.
Talked pretty much there. Um, he played, He's played phenomenal.
He's actually in that era right now. And for people
out there who are golf fans, we're probably not up
right now, um or they've been watching the Netflix series
Full Swing. Um, you heard a lot of the top
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pros in the PGA Tour talk about it like he's
that guy that's in his prime. Now. How long he
can sustain it, we'll see. But he's doing things. For example,
I think I don't know if he's a back to
back winner of that specific tournament, but um, only him
Woods uh And and Jack Nichols had had accomplished something
that he complished. They to rain is both the play
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Years and Masters Champions simultaneously. I mean, he's it's a
pretty good company. He's playing his best golf. He's played
the best golf of anyone in the world. Obviously with
the ranking, but I think anyone the PGA Tour would
tell you it's always just about how can they sustain it?
Like Brooks Kepco is there at one point. George Speth
was there at one point. There's a number of guys
who have been there. It's everybody McElroy that's been it
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there at one point. It just depends on how long
he can sustain the run that he's on. Do you
think you could beat him if he plays if he
played left handed? Uh? Maybe, I don't know how good
he is left handed. Like those guys spend so much
time playing golf, he might be a really really good
golf He imagined that. All right, what else we got?
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Lee keeping it in the golf world. As we all know,
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Herman last year, and there's actually odds out for who
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done from. Yes, of course, I mean look which apparently
it's only grown legs on his comedy tour as his
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you let people take it out, take it out for
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way tire buying should be. Brady Quinn March Madness is
back and the damn brackets are out. How excited are
you the brackets are out? I'm excited. I do think
for someone who didn't really watch a ton of college
basketball this year, I watched the decent amount, but not
(01:46):
a ton. I do have my opinions on the bracket,
which I think is pretty funny because like, everyone's got
an opinion on the bracket and who should have been
the number one overall seed and who got screwed and
who didn't. Like, everyone's got an opinion on that and
yet no one really watched all of these teams, because
no one it's not possible to watch three hundred plus
teams play basketball this season and really have a true
(02:08):
opinion in all of this, especially in the middle of
football season. I mean, let's let's just call it what
it is. And for college basketball, who I think is
pretty much resigned itself to the fact that it's, you know,
it's a three week sport now at this point, I mean,
it's about the tournament. Like you got all these NFL stories,
all this stuff popping up, and then you've got obviously
the end season stuff and the playoffs, and then by
(02:28):
the time you finally catch your breath, all of a sudden,
we're basically in conference in conference play late in the season,
and then we got conference tournaments. Although I do want
to say just first and foremost obviously difficult day yesterday
for Purdue, who really really tried as hard as they
could to lose that game to Penn State. I mean,
(02:50):
they tried, and so it's unfortunately they were unsuccessful in
doing so, and they actually did hold on to win.
So that's unfortunate. Yeah, we are, Yeah, they're they're dropping
out for full of our there. Yeah, I mean, what
the hell like the late game execution for Purdue was
as bad as it as you could POSSI sound like
someone who had money on Purdue. No, now, listen, broadcast professional,
(03:11):
I don't gamble on that. I couldn't get a bet
at in time. Basically it's what happened. But I mean
I personally don't really care how you win him and
how as you win them. Yeah, Purdue has been dominant
all season Long's it's no surprise Zach and he has
been phenomenal, So the outcome wasn't a surprise. How they
got there was Again, I personally, especially in tournament time,
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no one remembers the close calls, a close calls you
had on your way to a Final four appearance. So
that's all this is really about at this point. Well,
I mean, listen, it's like your guy John Calipari said
back in the day, just land the plane. Doesn't matter
there's going to be some turbulence in the tournament. Just
land the plane, get the win and then and then
move on to the next round. So I did hear
a lot of conversation over the weekend though, as we
(03:54):
were ramping up for the brackets to come out. As
far as what really a Final four appearance like, Is
it that creatives of an accomplishment? Is it not that
great of an accomplishment? I personally look at it and
think there's there's probably some years where you've got teams
who are one seeds that have an easy path. But
you know, when when you think about the setup of
the tournament itself, there's no other playoff format that we
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have where the number one seed doesn't have home fielded.
Now they might that might be close to where they're from,
but they don't have home court advantage. And you know, yeah,
you're matched up versus a sixteen seed in some cases
and all that, but after that, the matchups get pretty interesting.
And it's a single elimination, So it only takes one
game where you're not shooting well, the opponent happens to
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be going lights out, and you're in trouble. I actually
think it's one of the reasons why we haven't seen
a repeat champion since what Florida. So the last team
to do it back in the Billy Donovan era and
then the mid two thousands, Yeah, that was the the
al hore for teams back then. Joking. Yeah, yeah, it is.
That That's why when people talk about going to the
(05:02):
final four, I still like, you don't have buy weeks.
There's no like, it's not like, to your point, like
any other thing that we watch in sports. So if
you can make a run and get hot, and then
you don't have a lot of time to prepare for
these games because you're playing a game and then you
get done, you're waiting to see who you play. You've
got you've got to turn and burn, you know, you're
(05:23):
you're you're just looking at everything and researching and breaking
everything down, and then you go right back into another game.
And the best case scenario is, well it's in your region. Okay,
well that's cool, but it's not. It's still not a
home game. So to your point, I look at it
and I go, I don't care what year it is.
How strong quote unquote the field is. If you can
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get to a final four, that's accomplishing something like that's
and so when people talk about, well Jim Baheim didn't
do enough, Okay, well five final fours, I don't know,
that's kind of cool, Like you know, I mean, I
know he only won one national title, but to be
able to go on a run like that depending on,
you know, whatever the bracket looks like or whatever teams
you face on your way there. I still think it's
an accomplishment, Okay, And the reason why I bring this
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up is because it comes out of seating, so if
you go through the bracket. Some people feel like Kansas
got host in part because, look, they've played in the
toughest conference, which I think is the opinion of people
buy and large, the Big Twelve this year, which has
been phenomenal, There's no doubt about it. Even though they
obviously got blown out in the Big Twelve championship game,
they still at least got to the championship of that conference. Anyway,
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some people thought they should have been that the second
number one seed overall, which I believe would have given
them a path that would have gotten them to it
the Sweet sixteen in Kansas City, and instead now they're
going to be going to Las Vegas, which you'd imagine
Kansas City, Missouri. There actually is a Kansas City, Kansas
by the way, A lot of people don't know that,
but those Sweet sixteen games would be Kansas in Kansas City, Missouri,
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at least closer Lawrence, Kansas or where the campus is,
and so it would have provided a bit of you know,
I guess you'd say a home court advantage for a
couple more games, but that sort of thing usually very
rarely exists, and in the case of Kansas, because of
the seeding, they now don't have that opportunity. I mean,
it was almost like the committee actually used that against
them to make a case for maybe why they shouldn't
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be the number two overall seed, at least as a
number one seed in this case. But whatever the case is,
I'm excited for it. I know they've talked about expanding
the field past the sixty eight that now get in
with the two playing games. I'm not a fan of that.
I think to your point earlier about you know, the
fact that this has become a three week sport, it
really has to a degree, maybe you'd say a four
(07:34):
week sport with the convents tournaments added, and only because
it does allow some of those teams to punch their ticket.
But I don't feel like there's as much of a
buzz about this year's tournament as compared to maybe some
years past. And I don't know if that's because you
don't have like a team like North Carolina that's a
blue blood that was a part of the tournament last year,
(07:56):
playing in the finals and obviously didn't even make it
this year. Not sure what you attribute that too, but
it feels like as college football continues to make itself
more of a national sport, less regionalized basketball hasn't really
followed suit, even though the tournament in itself is more
of a nationally consumed deal. It just it seems like
(08:18):
there's there's so many teams, there's so many times you
focus on them. Is that maybe one of the problems
with the tournament is you've got in with the exception
of one one seed in Virginia one year that lost
to a sixteen seed. We look at some of those
smaller schools that get an opportunity like hey, thanks for
coming out, but that's the end of it, like that,
that's all you get, And there's maybe some meaningless games
(08:41):
that are played in this In your mind, to me,
I don't know that they need any I don't know
that there's buzz that they necessarily need going into the
tournament anymore. I think they've got their pocket, they've got
their three to four week stretch in the sports calendar,
and they're going to be successful every single year because everybody,
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I just look at it and I go, it is
what it is like. College basketball is always going to
have this niche. There's been a lot of discussions about
(09:22):
this season, and you know, Alabama being the one seed
with all the off the court issues and then being
number one overall. I just view it as, yeah, we're
not so caught up in the moment right now. But
the second Thursday rolls around, and you've got all these
men around the country scheduling vasectomes and you know, putting
these fake screen savers at work so people can't figure
(09:45):
out whether or not you're actually watching the games or
being productive at work. Like all of that stuff just
plays into what it is. And as the week goes on,
it's going to start to ramp up, and once Thursday
gets here, all bets are off I still think it's
going to be the same interest, the same fun, the
same craziness. We're going to see some upsets. It happens
every single year. I just don't look at it with
(10:05):
any sort of concern. Other sports like the NBA that
are still trying to figure out how they want to
market their league and how they want to brand their
league and when who would they want to cater two
and all that, But when it comes to college basketball,
I just think it is what it is. You get
your three or four week on the sports calendar, on
your sport calendar, you're gonna hit out of the park,
you're gonna have your Final four, and then you just
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disappear and you wait until the NFL cools off next February.
That's it. I don't know. I don't know that I
look at it quite the same. I think the problem
with the sport is it's become a three four week
sport because they haven't necessarily made the adjustments. Are changes
they've needed to in order to make this more than that.
At least that's how I feel about it. I mean,
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when I think about Gonzaga and what Gonzaga used to
be two decades ago and maybe more than that before
Mark Few got there and what he's done, and now
you look at what they are. They were a Cinderella story.
They're not a Cinderella story anymore. They're looked at as
almost a powerhouse. I think some young UN's probably look
at them and say, oh, they're a blue blood and
a disappointment. And they looked at as a disappointment because
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they can't get over the hump. Well I'm not I'm
not going in that direction. What I'm saying is I
don't know that you can get many of the programs
that fall into that category where in two decades from
now we look at and I don't know, maybe you
look at Oral Roberts. Some people call it Bobby Moe.
Maybe maybe you look at an Oral Roberts or said
(11:29):
the Robert Morris. But but maybe you look at a
smaller school like that and say, okay, they've they've made
the tournament. However many times they've got a reputation. They're
looked at as one of those Hey they're gonna be
a double digit seed, but look out for them. They
can pull off an upset. You know. Sometimes you see
those teams or those programs in the tournament. You go, oh, yeah,
I've heard of them before. Yeah, they could pull off
(11:49):
an upset here and there. The reality is, with the
direction that college sports are going, you know, these schools
are at such a disadvantage in regards to the resources
that they can provide versus the Power five conferences. And
I know we don't talk about that college basketball because
you have so many schools and now we've adopted the
phrasing of quad one wins quad two wins, and that
(12:12):
can be an ever changing landscape depending on how a
team's trending. But the majority of quad one wins when
we're talking about those teams are programs that are a
part of conferences that are viewed that Power five are
getting a ton more resources or revenue generated from TV
contracts that are helping out those athletic departments. And I
just think the gap is only get bigger, it's not
(12:34):
going to get smaller. And if you're a transfer portal,
you know, if you're a kid looking again the transfer
portal from Northern Kentucky, for example, there's gonna be way
more attractive options and much bigger programs. And I think
the differentiator is huge between the small schools who have
nots and the big schools that are the haves. So
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I know you feel like there's no issue with it,
but I think moving forward the tournaments, it's never gonna
fall by the wayside because how special it is and
the moments that it can create. But I think college
basketball is losing its grip on trying to create, especially
as college football looks to expand their playoff and everything
else and they're you know, continuing to grow and getting
(13:16):
more market share. I don't know that you can say
that college basketball has done that, Like, I don't know
that it's as big as it used to be. When
when I was a little kid buying Final Four t shirts,
I don't even know if I used to like any
of the teams that were in the Final Four. I
just thought it was the coolest thing. Time was one
of the greatest things ever. And now I don't see
kids walking around doing that. I don't see kids as
(13:36):
invested as they used to be. And look, this could
be a byproduct of you know, kids being a one
and done now. You know, back then you kind of
had a degree of that, but it wasn't as common
and it's a bit more common now. I'm not sure
exactly what you attributed to. I just feel like it's
a great time of the year. It's one of my
favorite times of year. I hope that doesn't change. But
I have this sensor feeling that it might be kind of,
(13:59):
you know, heading in that direction where it's getting left
but left in the dust compared to some of those sports. Well.
I think it's also that it's another example of why
nerds have ruined so much of what we grew up with. See,
when you grow up like we do on the mean
streets in the Midwest, you know, it's not like nowadays
where these kids go on snap face and TikTok and
tweet out some video dancing about what their favorite team did.
(14:21):
You know what you and I used to have to do.
We used to have to either print out our bracket
or cut one out of the newspaper and then risk
getting all that newspaper inc all over our hands so
that we could fill out our brackets. And you had
to do it in pen because you didn't want any
scumbag doing it in pencil and then going back afterwards
and erasing it. They don't know what that's like now.
Now they just go on TikTok or some of these
(14:42):
other lame sites. They do some music videos, some knockoff
dance video that looks like some en Vogue remake from
the nineties, and then they think to themselves, Oh, look
at me, I finally made it to the tournament, and
here are my picks. Not like you and I, they've
ruined it for us. I refuse to let that happen.
Break out those old final four shirts and let's make
the tournament grade again. Brady Quinn, that's what you and
(15:03):
I need to do, and we could give the charge.
By the way, I did ever tell you I ran
a pool one time in junior high, which was like
completely against did you really? So? So I had to
like go straight under cover with like all my buddies
in doing it, and here was the only issue the rounders.
Wow kind of So I was like collecting money from
all my buddies like in between class and was kind
of like low key. I mean, this is gonna be
(15:25):
hard for people to believe. But it was before cell phones, folks,
So you actually had to like in between class go
and like try to figure out a way of like
telling my buddy, hey, come on, I saw when you
get a chance, you know, hey, then you need to
pay up being your twenty bucks blah blah blah. So
like I created this whole pool, and as we're going
through the tournament, and I'm obviously keeping track of all this,
and I would give everyone At that point, we did
(15:45):
have email, so I'd give him everyone from my my
AOL account and email update. The problem was I won
the tournament, and I was like, there's no way I'm
gonna be able to keep the money. Everyone's gonna think
the fixes in. So I literally had to award it
to the second place guy. And I just like basically
just like like, yeah, you jumped on the grenade because
I was like, oh, there's no way I'll be accused
(16:07):
of cheating in this. I'm not gonna able to take
credit of it. So I literally had to give away
off the money, even though I had the best bracket.
If it was on the up and up, who cares
if they suck at their picks? Why is that your problem?
They didn't stink. But the problem was it was going
to be contestant. I was like, oh, yeah, of course
the guy's running it and has all the cash, You're
just gonna go ahead. And keep it, which at that
(16:29):
point in time, it would have probably you know, been
a pretty shady move, but the cash would have been great.
I was just like, yeah, I can't do this to
my buddies, like they would accuse me of being a
cheater forever. How much cash were talking about? Um, I
think we had. It was like it was a good
amount because I think we ended up having like twelve
guys do it right, so like two hundred forty bucks.
It was a twenty dollars buying take all. Yeah, and
(16:50):
at that age that's a lot of money. Yes, that's
probably a new bike back then. Yep. I mean you're talking,
you're talking about this point in my life. That's like
the late nineties. Like that's for sure a nice bike,
maybe even a couple of baseballs or a baseball mid
depending on if it was a nice rawlings that came
out hard of the hide, you wouldn't know anything, Yes,
(17:11):
heard of the hide. But I was more of a
Mazzuno guy myself. You know, they were really worked well.
I mean that's just the way baseball, baseball gears. Yeah, okay, yeah, um,
but here's what you should have done. And this is
just forward thinking and I feel like you would have
gone in this direction had you kept the money. What
(17:31):
you should have done is then go buy some knockoff
Final four T shirts and then resell those for like
ten dollars more than you bought them for. And next thing,
you know that two forty turns e and do an
even bigger profit for you. I mean, talk about the
wheeling and dealing in on the street to Dublin that
Brady Quinn look at you. That's how you gotta started. Man. Yeah,
(17:52):
Fortunately I couldn't find that a knockoff T shirts. You know,
they I'm not really sure how that works, but they
pretty much just had the standard ones at the grocery
store that we go and buy and usually turn it
into a cutoff. Although in those days, not that the
kids would remember this, but remember Carrie Kittles at Villanova
where he'd cut off He'd cut off his off shooting arm,
but then his shooting arm would still have the T
(18:13):
shirt sleeve. That became the fad, like everyone was doing
what Carry Kittles was doing. But that's what I'm talking about. Like,
think about back in the day, you had a lot
of these like iconic figures or like the cutoff that
Ray Allen wore was like the perfect cutoff, and everyone
wanted to have the yukon like Ray Allen cut off
underneath their jersey the way he did it. But you
(18:34):
I just I don't feel like the kids have the
same connection to these athletes the way we used to.
And I don't know what exactly to draw that, you know,
draw that conclusion to outside of the fact that I
don't know that college basketball has kept up with other
sports and continuing to kind of grow and relate its
game to the masses, even the younger generations. I mean,
(18:56):
there was nothing. You knew the tournament was back, see
because you know people are gambling at middle school or
high school in Dublin, Ohio. But also you knew because
you'd have these guys for no reason whatsoever. And I
still have not gotten an explanation that makes any sense
that are wearing T shirts underneath their jerseys while they're playing.
(19:17):
I still to this day have not gotten an explanation
that makes any sense whatsoever. Why are you wearing a
T shirt underneath your jersey? Yes, just sets a really
easy explace. Okay, what's the explanation? Well, first off, like
the jerseys didn't feel great when you'd sweat in them,
especially when they're like a mesh material, so you'd usually
want a T shirt to absorb some of the sweat.
Sometimes guys didn't like how they felt, you know, on them,
(19:40):
Like there's just the material in general, or even the look.
And by the way, it gets cold, dude, like when
you're wearing a jersey and shorts and you don't have
much else. That's why you have warmups on sitting on
the bench because you get cold. So usually having another
shirt on another land underneath kind of helps you keep
a little bit warm, feels a little bit better, and
absorb some that sweat so when you're going in and
out of the game it's not as bad. Like that's
(20:02):
actually the easiest thing. That's like not wearing an undershirt
when you're wearing your football pads and be incredibly uncomfortable.
That's but but again, that's why we're different, all right,
because I operated with no shirt underneath. Just let it
fly and you deal with whatever rash you got coming
to you. About winning, I do with my son every
day every no no, no no outside on a real hoop,
(20:24):
like in an actual like basketball setting, about a month ago. Yeah,
there's one. There's one of my mom's house. Yeah, we
have one in the backyard. Fired up a little bit. Yeah,
but I mean that's but again, you just let no,
you shoot around for a few minutes, you get them.
You never leave on a miss either. You always make
your last shot and then you walk away. So I
was there for quite some time. Well something too. Let
(20:46):
me tell you. I'll say this though, I'm I'm entering
like another level when it comes to those little Fisher
Price kids hoops. My son and I get after it
like it's like a three point shootout and he can't
hang at all. It's to the point now where my
lade has grown and now I'm shooting left handed, like
I'm gonna start shooting with my feet pretty soon, just
(21:08):
to rub it in even more. He's got to pick
up his game. Well. It talks a lot of trash
and how young he is. He talks a lot of Hey,
by the way, I would also like to say that
thing you were telling me about daylight savings messing with kids.
Yeah that's correct, Yeah, that was correct, thank you. Yeah,
how's everyone doing out? They got up a yeah a
(21:32):
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Com studios. But Brady Quinn, you know, last year, and
I believe it was the year before, we started a
(22:40):
fun little game like right around this time, and it
was called Weekend at Murphy's. And it was because Mark Murphy,
the president of the Green Bay Packers, he just has
this ability to just not really consider sometimes how things
that he could say could be construed to the outside
(23:03):
world and maybe how it might, you know, hurt some
feelings or maybe piss off certain people in the organization.
He just lets it fly. And so this past weekend,
Mark Murphy decided to talk with Fox in Green Bay
on Friday night, and he was asked just a couple
of simple questions about the Aaron Rodgers situation. Normally we
(23:26):
get some canned responses and canned answers from people in
a position of power like Mark Murphy is and oh, no,
Weekend at Murphy's is back. Take a listen. Is there
a scenario where Aaron is still the starting quarterback of
the Packers next season? Yeah, I mean, unless if things
don't work out the way we would want him. Yeah,
But you know, I think it's trying to find what
(23:47):
he wants and what we want and hopefully we can
find a win win situation. If he requests the trade,
will you honor it? Yeah? Oh yeah we would yeah, okay, yeah,
all right, there it is. Now, Well would I appreciate
the most? And I want to play the sound again,
(24:08):
just listen at the tone at which Mark Murphy talks
and again and taking to account these things. Right, you're
talking about a player who's a first ballot Hall of Famer,
four time MVP, won a Super Bowl for you. He
happened to have followed up Brett Farve, and which is
tough to do, right, Like, I think one of the
more underrated things Aaron Rodgers has done, and it probably
(24:32):
to me, and just as a former player like stands
up there amongst his accomplishments on the field, is like
being the guy to actually fill in for those shoes.
Like It's one thing to be like touted in a
first round pick they traded to to get you, but
it's another thing to actually say, like, oh yeah, and
I played behind Brett Farve who's a Hall of Famer,
first ballot Hall of Famer, and uh yeah, I actually
(24:53):
also became a whole flamer and brought that same organization
the Super Bowl and won four MVPs. Like that in
and of itself is in probably hard to do, and
I think a lot of people can relate to that.
Who's ever had to step in to fill in for
someone who's just phenomenal in what they do. But listen
to just how and as a matter of fact, Mark
Murphy talks what he's absolutely like a haymaker to the
(25:17):
chances of Aaron Rodgers being back with Green Bay. Hold
and listen one more time. Is there a scenario where
Aaron is still the starting quarterback of the Packers next season? Um? Yeah,
I mean unless if things don't work out the way
we would want him. Yeah, but you know, I think
it's trying to find what he wants and what we
want and hopefully we can find a win win situation.
(25:39):
He leads off with a jab and he's like, yeah,
if things that work all the way we want him,
Just after, you want to go out sometime, Yeah, nobody
else comes along. I mean, for sure, I had to
go out with you. Yeah, I know, if everyone else
on the planet dies and you're the only person left, sure,
I think that'd be a yes, you know what, yeah, absolutely,
(26:01):
of course you'd be my last option. Why not the
lesson ideal choice? It is phenomenal stuff. Rogers also was
at a charity event with Brandon Marshall talking over the weekend,
and he just h he just kind of, you know,
was talking with Brandon Marshall about the scenario, the meeting
with the Jets, and Brandon Marshall tried to really slow
(26:23):
play it at first. He tried to just ask him
some questions about the charity game and how he was performing,
and then he decided, you know, so now that we've
gotten that all out of the way, you know, why
don't we get to some of the other good stuff here.
There's been some rumblings about you maybe meeting with the Jets.
This is obviously on the heels of Aaron Rodgers going
underground for a short time and hanging out with golfers
(26:44):
and earthworms and the rest of the people that like
to smoke weed underground. And so here was Brandon Marshall
and Aaron Rodgers talking at this charity tournament over the weekend.
How was it meeting Woody Johnson? How was that meetings?
You know, it's always a shouting reporting figures in the sport. Yeah,
it's always interesting. That's all I'm getting from just there.
Now stay yeah, I think I won't be long. There's
(27:16):
the time as a time limit from Yeah. So that's uh,
this is about wrap it up here. It's over. The
Rogers time in green Bay, the Aaron Rodgers Aaron green
Bay is over, and now it's just a matter of
whether or not he wants to play and whether or
not they he ends up playing for the New York Jets,
because there's no I don't imagine any possible way he
(27:36):
goes back to Green Bay, especially after Mark Murphy's comments
over the weekend it's over. Yeah. You know what's sad
about all this because we talked about the potential of
this happening last year, and it feels like the only
thing keeping this from happening a year prior is the
fact that he was coming off an MVP season. I mean,
that's the reality how this past season happened two years ago.
(27:58):
You're probably hearing that same narrative, that same Mark Murphy
comments an interview. Um, it just it felt like they
were waiting for the moment after they drafted Jordan Love.
The running was on the wall. They were waiting for
the moment to move on from him. Yeah, and they
and they couldn't because he had two back to back
MVP seasons and they were a fourteen win team, a
thirteen win team, Like, there's just there's no way they
(28:21):
could sell that to their fan base. And I think
this year, because the way the season went, they go
eight to nine, they don't make the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers
still had a good year. It wasn't a great year,
but it's a good year, and they had some moving parts.
But that combined with you know, kind of almost playing
into everything that he's become, you know, being so open
(28:44):
off the field, almost pushed that narrative and played into it, right,
the immunization comments, the the you know, iowa Iawuasca or
whatever the hell it was, he's taken, Like they almost
played that up too, to a degree where it made
it for them to move on in this relationship. Yeah,
it just it feels like this is just delayed, delayed, delayed,
(29:08):
and now's the time and now we go forward. I'm
just I'm curious to see how Rogers plays this because
he's been so he wants to be able to control
the messaging and how this stuff gets out. And that's
not a knock on Aaron Rodgers. He has every right
to do that, especially considering and we've talked about this before,
all the crap that's been said about him publicly, not
even just the immunization stuff, but the coverage of his
(29:30):
family dynamic and his relationship with his family and all that.
There's he doesn't trust a lot of people in the media,
you can tell, and rightfully so. So I think he
wants to be able to get this out and be
able to control how the message lands because I do
think his relationship and his fondness of the people and
the fans in Green Bay is real, Like, I think
(29:51):
that that means a lot to him, and he wants
to make sure he goes out and with the proper
respect paid towards them. And I'm just curious when and
how he does it. Does he just go on McAfee
shows starring AJ Hawk and drop it there? Does he do,
you know, his own little tribute video and that's how
he makes the announcement. I'm just curious how that messaging
(30:13):
gets out because I think that's really important to him.
I think he wants to be I think he wants
to be in charge of how this lands with the
City of Green Bay, and I just don't know how
that happens, or does he just retire because everybody assumes
he's going to come back for the fifty eight fifty
nine million dollars and him just say no, no, no,
this was never about money for me. I'm still on
(30:33):
my journey trying to discover myself. I don't need your money.
I'll just walk away. That's why. That's why I want
to see how this lands. And I think this is
probably maybe the week or and the next couple of
days is going to go down for Aaron Rodgers. But
the one thing that's lingering out there is the idea
that he doesn't want to retire the same year as
Tom Brady. Does You know, if Tom Brady ultimately is
going to go into the Hall of Fame, it'd be
(30:54):
the same year as Rogers if they retired. And I
don't think he wants to play second fiddle to Tom Brady.
And you know, when you talk about his mentioning to
the fans and maybe the decision of when he wants
to drop whatever news it's going to be It feels
like he's cognisent of his legacy and how this impacts
that and how it looks. You know, this is one
of those I'm gonna take my talents to South Beach
(31:16):
type moments where you're gonna remember whatever words or however
this is done by Aaron Rodgers, and when he leaves
Green Bay, like Packers fans will never forget it, you know,
Cleveland Cavaliers fans, even though Lebron came back and brought
them a championship, they'll still never forget him leaving the
first time and how it was done and what was said. Right.
So I think Aaron Rodgers is very conscious of that.
(31:39):
I do wonder this because I don't think retiring is
in play here for that reason, amongst the money and
everything else. But what if Tom Brady came back to play?
What of him is if he called Tom and say, Tom,
what are you doing? Are you just sitting this thing
out for a while? Are you trying to come back
and play another year, maybe with the Miami Dolphins or
someone else. And if that was actually in play still,
(32:03):
I wonder if then the possibility of him retiring would
come in where he just says nope, I'm done, and
then that way they would be on separate paths knowing
what he knows moving forward. Yeah, I mean, I think
there's a point zero zero one percent chance of that
being the case. But it would be interesting to think
if those two had talked and they'd be on the
(32:24):
same page in regards to what's happening out there. I
know that Tom Brady said that he doesn't want Aaron
Rodgers to retire. This was a few weeks ago, because
he thinks, you know, he's too good a player and
we need good players in this league. So I know
that Tom Brady was on record saying that. So I
don't know if that. I do think the idea of
either of them retiring, taking a year off and coming
(32:45):
back to me, I'm just I don't see it. I
don't At their age, I don't think that makes any sense.
So it will see what happens. I think there will
be a decision or something's gonna be made this week.
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Lead lap Mortan Fellas lots happened in this Hey Brady,
(34:34):
good to see you, buddy. Hey, lots happened in this weekend,
So understandable if you missed this. In case you missed it,
Scottie Scheffler reclaimed the number one spot in the golfing
world after winning the Players Championship. He shot seventeen under par,
more than five strokes better than the next guy. What
was even more impressive, though, was that his grandmother, Mary,
walked the entire length of the of the tournament with
(34:56):
him going viral shout outs to Mary, how about that
granny hanging out watching? We have any more like information?
Like how old is is Mary? You said her? It
was her name, She's eighty eight years of age. She
had she had her um uh. I guess you call
it not a I'm not sure of the exact term.
It's not a stroll or you know, a walking assisting
(35:17):
what do you call those like like a walker? Walker,
thank you, thank you? A walker? Yeah, there you go.
Talked pretty much there. Um, he played, He's played phenomenal.
He's actually in that era right now. And for people
out there who are golf fans, we're probably not up
right now, um or they've been watching the Netflix series
Full Swing. Um, you heard a lot of the top
(35:38):
pros in the PGA Tour talk about it like he's
that guy that's in his prime. Now. How long he
can sustain it, we'll see. But he's doing things. For example,
I think I don't know if he's a back to
back winner of that specific tournament, but um, only him
Woods uh And and Jack Nichols had had accomplished something
that he complished. They to rain is both the play
(36:00):
Years and Masters Champions simultaneously. I mean, he's it's a
pretty good company. He's playing his best golf. He's played
the best golf of anyone in the world. Obviously with
the ranking, but I think anyone the PGA Tour would
tell you it's always just about how can they sustain it?
Like Brooks Kepco is there at one point. George Speth
was there at one point. There's a number of guys
who have been there. It's everybody McElroy that's been it
(36:21):
there at one point. It just depends on how long
he can sustain the run that he's on. Do you
think you could beat him if he plays if he
played left handed? Uh? Maybe, I don't know how good
he is left handed. Like those guys spend so much
time playing golf, he might be a really really good
golf He imagined that. All right, what else we got?
(36:42):
Lee keeping it in the golf world. As we all know,
Tiger's single yet again after breaking things off with Erica
Herman last year, and there's actually odds out for who
his next partner might be. Jizelle Bunch and surprisingly at
the top of that list at plus twenty five hundred.
Other notable names Kim Kardashian, Shakira, Jada Pinkett, Smith, Page Sprawnet.
(37:02):
There's some adult actresses on this list, So let's hold
on for a second and think it's Smith. Isn't she
with Will Smith? Yeah? Thats what they want? Open, open relationship? Okay,
and this is obviously where the whole Chris Rock things
done from. Yes, of course, I mean look which apparently
it's only grown legs on his comedy tour as his
(37:23):
comedy special, as my understand he blasted him. I mean, look, heah,
you let people take it out, take it out for
a test drive? Okay, seriously question like and and I
don't know anyone who's in an open relationship, but if
they were, like, can you get possessive if you're in
an open relationship depends on who borrows you, you know,
(37:45):
saying it seems like that's kind of a yeah, could
be a problem. Yeah, I mean it's like it's it's like, hey, dude,
you gave him the car. You can't be upset that
if they come back and you know they've bent on
one of the rims or you know, the inside of
it smells like fast food, Like is that scar car gigy.
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