March 29, 2023 • 45 mins
On today’s 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the sale of the Commanders inches closer as two groups bid $6billion for the team. The NFL looks into flexing games to Thursday Night Football, but could it do more harm than good? And The Old P, Petros Papadakis jumps on to talk Bachelor finale, reality TV and Bronny James.
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It's the best of two pros and a couple of joe.
When Lamar, dy Quinn and Jonas knocks on radio, good
morning high Yeah, Hi, good morning, my neighbor. Somebody's recovering,
somebody's getting their voice back. Yeah, that's coming around. Yeah,
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come around. That's what I'm talking. It's that kind of
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and you said kiss it, and then you walked right
through the smoke, walked right through the fire, and now
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How about honestly, if if you want me to be
honest with you, Um, I think it was Scotch. I
got tired of just taking medicine one point, and I
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was like, you know what, I have a couple of
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really that that was the way they called Grandpa's cough
medicine for a reason. So I was like, I haven't
tried this yet, Let's let's give this a try. I
remember my buddy who's a German. His family's like from Germany,
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and they told me that Yeager was the German cough syrup,
and he said I got the flu one time and
he said, do a shot of Yeager. I was like, no,
I'm not doing a shot of Yeager. I feel like crap.
So now I'm telling you, like, do a shot. It
really helped, like it really, yes, really help sharing this
information with me. You know, three days ago, why didn't
know you like Jager? And it feels like it's kind
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of thick, so it would actually cause more problems to
your to your throat. Like just like I'm Irish, Jonas,
even though you don't like to think I'm not, I am.
So we we pretty much you know, we don't discriminate
against any alcohol. Okay, now I know. There you go,
little scotch, Little scotch for you, and well people might
be breaking out the scotch at the NFL offices. A
lot of owners could be really really relieved, probably looking
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around going dodged a bullet, because apparently the long standing
nightmare in the National Football League that is the Dan
Snyder era in Washington could be coming to an end because,
according to several reports out there, there are two bids
in for the Washington Commandos slash football team slash commander
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slash former team of a guy wearing the hat and
the logo that Kyrie Irving had kicked out of a
basketball game the other night. There are two bids now
in at six billion dollars apiece, and Adam Schefter of
ESPN is saying that it looks like Dan Snyder could
sell the team and that a purchase agreement could be
in place by next month's draft. How about it finally
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after all this time? Yeah, scotch LaVar ye. I don't know,
celebration for me, but hey, listen, if if it's true,
then I think it's pretty interesting. And the first thing
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I think about is what what happens once once the
seal is approved? Like this, this seal is is it
has to be approved obviously by by the by the
other owners. But then what what recourse? What action is
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going to be taken against Dan Snyder with everything that
has transpired, Because even though you sell the team, it's
not like, Okay, I get to sell the team. I
get to collect this six billion dollars and go about
my business. There's more to it. There's more to the story,
and I'm just curious as to where does this all
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go like? And and for what it's worth, it may
get quiet after, you know, after the seal of the
team takes place, things may you know, happen more more obscurely.
But I'm you know, I don't know. I'm curious as
to if it is over once once he sells the team,
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or is it just really beginning, you know, because I
just I don't see him walking away getting having the
ability to walk away from everything that that he's been
a part of, you know, Scotch Free, good point Wait, wait,
sweet to stick, You're landing. So you think that there's
still gonna be something down the pike as far as
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him having a deal with some of the issues that
went on for his time there, because as a stands
right now, he bought this team for eight hundred million
dollars with some investors back in nineteen ninety nine, and
he's going to cash out with about six billion, so
it looks like double Yeah, well that's all more than
more than a little yeah, I mean, I mean eight
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hundred million, eight hundred million, right, one point one point
six one point six six, Yeah, But I'm saying he's
selling it for more than double, So yeah, it's more
than but it's more than double anyway. It's like, yeah,
it's crazy, man, Yeah that's crazy. But hey, little Danny's
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getting it done and he's going to see a big
fat check in his pocket for his yacht or whatever
property he's going to be selling him forward, so to
because there was some speculation that he was trying to
figure out a way that if he sold the team,
he wouldn't be held accountable and there would be no
more investigations going on. If he gets the six billion
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and also gets that in return, what a what a
way to get out of all the craft that he
went through the past couple of decades only to come
out with this much, with this much return on his
investment and then not have to deal with any of
the backlash moving forward. And yeah, I just don't see
that happening. But I don't know that the public will
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know how it all plays out, is what I think?
You know, I don't know, Yeah, what do you mean
by that? Like again, I don't I don't know if
if whatever happened and is going to be publicized, Like
I'm just I'm curious as to if it will be publicized,
if if there is recourse that that takes place, if
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if this further continues to come out, or if it
just goes away. No, this just go away. I mean,
here's the reality they had. Remember when Jerry Richardson sold
the team in Carolina. That's how obviously David Tepper got it.
And if I'm not mistaken, he was accused or alleged
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that I had said, was it was a racial remark,
yea sexual harassments, all that stuff. Okay, did you notice
how quick they turned that into a sale the NFL?
When I say that, and then David Tepper takes over
and whoever talks about that now never, no one. It's
it's gonna be the same exact thing with Dan Snyder.
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They're trying to facilitate this sale, whether it's Josh Harris's
group or the he asked a PAPIs you know yeah whatever?
This last name is way too many vowels. Can that
guy figure it out before he actually takes his team?
Figure out? How about this? How about this? You're not
a part of it? All right. We can act like
your big counts, but it doesn't because your name is
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too long, you have too many vows. I believe it's
a postalapabolus. Yeah, something like that, all right, But seriously,
like he's got one, two, three, four or five, six,
seven eight vowels? He's got eight vowels in his name. Well, Steven,
it's a way too long, Steven Apocalypse whatever his name is.
Figured that out before you want to take the take
the rains from Danny Snyder please, Yeah, I just he
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can't own the team. He can't win this bid purely
because no one's gonna be able to pronounce his last name, agreed.
And there's already a stephen A, so he is. He's
a Steve. He can't be Steve A. That's gonna be confusing, right, Yeah,
you've got Steven A Smith. You can't have another stephen A. Agreed.
So he's gonna have to just not be a part
of this anyway, you know, definitely can't. That's like, you know, yeah,
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it's defensive. Yeah, I gotta I gotta push back a
little bit on this. I don't see this being the
same scenario that played out in Carolina. It's a smaller market,
and and and for what it's worth, Dan Snyder is
has become a notorious person in the media, much more
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than than pretty much any any owner that that really
outside of maybe what took place in LA with the
Clippers owner, I think he's he's been infamous for so
long that I don't think that people are going to
let it go. That's what that's why. Okay, But but
but take the Clippers into account. Who talks about that anymore? Yeah,
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I mean not too much at all. Right, Well, that's
what I'm saying. That's the whole point. Like the league's
incentivized to move on from it. The organization is incentivized
to move on from it unless he's facing any sort
of federal charges, which you would have thought that happened
by now. And by the way, he just hops on
his yacht and heads to international water where he just
lives on his yacht, and then I guess he's he's
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able to circle. You had this report that came out
over the weekend where owners were something along the lines
of they're going to go ahead and pull back on
their vote to try and get him out if he
is indeed planning on selling the team. Say, okay, that's
what this is all about. I don't think owners or
anybody in the NFL has the balls to try and
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go after him after he's gone, because he knows where
everybody's bodies are buried, and he's known it this entire time.
And the idea that after he's gone and they finally
get their wish and everybody can move on and just
go let's everybody, let's be hush hush here. And they've
had twenty plush years of evidence and twenty plush years
of a landing strip to try and figure out how
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they can go after him and everybody be safe on
the other side, and nobody's been able to do it,
and nobody's wanted to do it, and they're not doing
it anytime soon. Telling you, I'm telling you that they
don't want that heat. I just don't know if it's
going to come. I just don't know if it's going
to come from the owners, That's what I'll say. I
don't know if the pressure or promise six billion hour
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whatever he makes from it to kind of you to
make it go away. Yeah, yeah, I mean that. That's
the reality too, is he's got a lot more money
to kind of make it go away or just go
away and make sure it goes away. By the way,
the Broncos got what four point was a four point six.
The Broncos went four point yeah six, something like that.
Jesus wash, the Commandos are terrible. And here we are
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six billion dollars, all the negative stuff attached to it,
all everything attached to it, and six billion dollars they're
going to go for her seven seven eight market. Good market.
The interesting thing is, I wonder how much they make
per year like that. That's what I'm curious to see.
And obviously you get a glimpse into Green Bay. But
as um as Lavara touched on, you know, DC is
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a much bigger market. So you would assume that even
as bad as the tendance has been and some of
the other things, their value would still be higher than
than Green Bay, and they'd still be earning more money
in a bigger market like that. But I mean, it's
you know, look, it's a big payout, it's a bit,
it's a golden parachute, however you want to look at it.
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And at the end of the day, it's a step
moving in the right direction for the NFL. And that's
why I just I think it's gonna go away. I
think they wanted to go away. Dan Schneyder wants it
to go away, and as you know, Jonas so artfully
pointed out, Dan Snyder does know where the bodies are buried.
You know, I mean, you come at him, He's gonna
be coming at your necktie. You better believe it. I
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get I get it. For the owners, I just don't know,
if you know, I don't know. There may be because
more cocause they're gonna say, like, what do you want?
We took away his team, took away give him six billion.
We took away his team. And then they they've already tried,
like some have already tried to take some these cases.
It hasn't got anywhere. Yeah, I hear you listen. It
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may go away, it may disappear. I'm just saying I'm
curious to will it because I just got this feeling
it ain't gonna be over. I just got a feeling.
I mean, it could be a good feeling. I got
a feeling that have been that, like's not gonna be
all over food last night, like Thai food or Chinese
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or Needing food or some I did have Asian food,
Like did you really see? That's what I'm thinking. I
think you need to go to the bathroom, buddy. I
think that's what the feeling is. Hey, little Danny's got
to shovel, and I don't feel any sudden nits or anything.
I swear to you. I had a bad meal like
that once and I was just like back in high
school and I almost broke up with my girlfriend and
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I realized, like it was just I needed to go
to the bathroom. I was like, man, I got this
pit in my stomach. I don't know what I'm doing.
I don't know I'm thinking. And then I went to
the bathroom. I was like, Oh, I feel better. I
was like, I don't know. Great point, I mean, we
are hitting into a break, so yeah, I'll try. You know,
maybe that's exactly what this is. Because about things. Be
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sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas
Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So there's been
a lot of pushback from players and people who cover
the NFL just about Thursday games in the NFL. Is
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it really good for the league, you know, the health
of the players, all of that involved. If we care
about concussions and the physical damage that football does. And
then you had Amazon Prime take over this past season,
and yet Al Michaels and Kirk curve Street openly complaining
about the quality of football that was there. Though there's
been a lot of discussion about how do you improve it,
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and one of the things that's been thrown out there's
the possibility of flexing Thursday day night football games later
in the season to where you can just all of
a sudden throw a team in on a Thursday night game. Now,
the idea was that you're going to give them about
fifteen days notice, so it's not going to be like
the week of or anything like that. They're going to
give them some time and that's when they would look
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to go ahead and maybe make a switch. They've tabled that.
They did not vote on that yesterday. Apparently there was
just a little bit of a vote that was put
together and they need twenty please do not do this. Yeah, well,
there's there's twenty four votes you need to pass any
of these rules. And the numbers I saw were twenty
two owners voted for it. Then you had another eight
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owners that were against it and another two that were uncommitted.
They were, they weren't really ready to go ahead and
make a decision either way. So that'll be discussed potentially
in May. They're going to have that discussion again at
the next meetings. But one of the things that was
announced yesterday that could be a small step towards that
direction is that the NFL is now allowing teams and
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pointing out that teams can play not one Monday and
Thursday night game like it has been over the past
few years, but now they can qualify to play for
two Thursday nights, so and that the Thanksgiving games those
don't count as a Thursday. So you've got teams that
will be picked to play twice on Thursday night. A
lot of people not happy about it. John Mara of
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the New York Giants, the owner there, he spoke out
against the Thursday flexing and all that. You had Patrick
Mahomes take to social media showing his displeasure about Thursday
night games and multiple times having to play a Thursday
night game. If you're one of these better teams in
the league. Jackson Mahomes, No, that was no. Jackson Mahomes
was on TikTok. I believe with you say he might
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have been on TikTok, saying that he was disgusted by them. No.
But Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, he did
talk about the decision to add a second Thursday night
game to the slate of several of these teams yesterday
and also the potential of some flexing on Thursday night,
and he was asked specifically, is the NFL looking at
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Amazon's best interest over the best interest of some of
the player's health and other f factors that are playing
into this. Here was the commissioner. I don't think we
are putting Amazon over player's interests. You know, we've always
been looking at the data with respect to injuries and
the impact on players. That was drove our decisions throughout
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the first twelve or so years of Thursday night football
and how it's evolved. And I think we have data
that's very clear. It doesn't show higher injury rate, but
we recognize shorter weeks. We went through this in COVID too.
It's you know, we had to have a lot of
flexibility in those areas, so those are obviously different circumstances,
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but we work very closely on that. I hear from
a lot of players directly too. They love the ten
days afterwards. In fact, they call it a mini buy,
and so there's some benefits on that side. You have
different views. You want to consider all of them. But
players have different views, coaches have different views, and we
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have to try to balance all them. So away we
go little little al Michael's bitching and moaning last year,
and look how far we've come, God forbid love it.
Have you guys ever heard Roger Goodell raised his voice?
But I've also never been scolded by Roger, So I'm
just saying, have you ever heard him speak in the
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public with like he has this? It's it's there's a
lot there. There's like in you know, in churches, you
know you have you know people that speak that way.
You know in like psychology, you know people speak that way.
Counselors they speak that way. He has that voice where
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he speaks in a disarming tone, and it's pretty interesting.
I don't I can't recall ever hearing him raise his
voice like like, I've never heard him say something like
sternly like like what do you mean we're not doing
this or we're looking into it, so just just calm
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down or any He's never, he's always very like I
don't want to say it's monotone, but I think it's
interesting because this is one of those conversations a Thursday
night schedule flex schedule. It to me, it doesn't make sense,
but that's my opinion. I just don't think it makes
sense at all. But regardless of what side you fall on,
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Roger Goodell approaches and I guess this is why he
gets pays the big dollars to be a commissioner. He
just he's he's disarming in the way that he speaks
about things. It's like, it's gonna be okay, you know,
let's let's let's just get up off of the ground.
Let's uh, let's clean up that scrape on your knee,
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and you know, we'll put put some you know, some
bandages on it and it's all going to be okay.
Like is that like what it comes down to? Like
really like just being able to manage conversations because generally speaking,
how many times do we really hear solutions really like
like definitive solutions really being discussed, Like did he say
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anything that was definitive and that that sound bite? Did
you take anything away from it that was definitive towards it,
he mean, not really didn't. He pointed out the pros
of playing two Thursday night games now, which is the
mini buy on the back end, so that players are
more important than Amazon. Yeah, that was what I took
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from it, Yes, which is interesting because I mean, obviously
Patrick Mahomes had a reaction to it. He wasn't a fan.
I think you asked most players, and they like to
be in a routine, you know, they like to be
able to have the ability to have that full week
to recover. You know. You hear people like George Kittle
talk about, Hey, when I go out there and play,
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I'm getting into car Rex like tens of car recks
every game, and so it takes me, you know, in
the mid end of the season, and LaVar you know
this as well as anyone like just to be able
to recover. And so I think the fact that you
could be having and I would assume these are gonna
be the top teams in the league, the fact that
you could be having them play multiple games on short weeks,
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even with the quote unquote mini buy, that doesn't matter
for players, Like a lot of those guys aren't gonna
be ready for it. Like, I think that's where you
fall into an instance where you want to have the
top talent out there playing well. If they don't have
sufficient time to be able to recover, you might not
get them out there. I mean that includes quarterback, that
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includes all of them. We just talked about a minute ago,
how the NBA is going an issue with load management.
You start playing a bunch of games on short weeks,
you're gonna have an issue in the NFL with guys
not soon. And that's where I've said this forever. You
had your m during COVID. Move the schedule around the
entire week, save Friday nights for high school football, save
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Saturdays until college football is over with for high school
because some high school teams play on Saturdays and college football.
Take Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Use them all, put
them all in primetime. I promise you. It will rate
better than what is currently on in those hours. Yes,
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and it's gonna be better for the overall product. It
will be better for the players and rest because the
schedule makers can bake in more rest time for these players.
And so instead of playing a Sunday game and turning
around and playing Thursday night. They could sit there and say, Okay,
they played on Monday last week. This week, now they're
going to play on a Tuesday. The following week. We
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might have them play again on Wednesday, and then they'll
have their buy and then after week coming back, they
get back on track on a Sunday. You can mess
with all those You could figure this out to be
able to actually have the best interest of the player's
health in mind, and not even at an additional buye week.
I don't know why the NFL is so hesitant to
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do this if I'm a TV partner, and especially broadcast
as you look at the streaming services and obviously people
binge watch what they want to watch, when they want
to watch it, so there's not very much appointment television
anyone anymore. Well, if that's the case, and you're spending
all this money on rights for these leagues, move them
around the week with the exception of Friday and Saturday,
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and move them around like to me, it makes all
the sense in the world. I don't know why they
don't explore it, but players can't be happy with this.
And if you're the players Union, once again you took
another l You apparently didn't want to put in the
last CBA that you couldn't have multiple teams playing Thursday
night football games and guys playing on short weeks, putting
in harm's way. Yeah, because all they did was tweaked
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the rule right and just say yeah, we're gonna go
ahead and now allow you to add that second one.
This wasn't anything that was voted on. They just tweaked
a rule. That's it. That's what the owners do every
time and then and the players unions always like, oh yeah,
but they're letthers smoke weed more. Yeah, they're let us
smoke weed more and get away with this and that
it just I And also the thought of playing games
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on all those other days that you've talked about flexing
Thursday night games I'm not crazy about. But if you
were to present an NFL product that would have games
on the Sunday all the way through the Thursday, I
don't know anybody that could find the negative in that.
I don't know what the con is to that, because
a network's not going to say no. I mean, it's
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live programming, and it's it's you know, if NFL's King,
Football's King, network's not going to say no. If players
have rest before or afterwards, they're probably not going to
push back on it. The only pushback you might hear
from some people is, well, our fans really gonna want
to go crowd a stadium on a Wednesday night? What
are you talking about? They're doing twelve thousand and some
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of these basketball venues. You don't think people would want
to come out and see an NFL game and go
out there, and knowing we have a limited number of
these during the course of the week, now we got
something to do on a Wednesday. If you've got crappy
NBA teams bringing fans into arenas, the idea that you
wouldn't bring a stadium full of football fans in with
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all of the notoriety the NFL gets, all the game,
everything that comes along with it, there's no con to it.
The only con in all of this is flexing Thursday
night games. And now you're making it to where players
can play multiple Thursday night games. And as I said before,
a team like the Cowboys, all of a sudden, the
Cowboys are going to have to play three Thursday night
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games because they're not even counting Thanksgiving as a Thursday
night game. That's already baked into the schedule, So now
the Cowboys are looking at it going okay, so now
we got to worry about having a short week multiple
times a year, and on top of it, a third
week to go along with it. Same with the Lions.
I just the flexing, I don't get Everything else to
me makes sense, But it's the flexing that you've got
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a lot of people pushing back on now, which and
there's a feeling that it is going to be passed
in May when they bought on it again. I mean,
that's all I was gonna say. Though it's been tabled
for now, so it's not to me really a discussion point.
And just because it's tabled for May doesn't mean it
it will necessarily come back around what it will work.
I mean, I think it would make sense to pair
it up. If you're going to have teams play multiple
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Thurst to night games, it would make sense to have
the ability to flex teams into it. But it calls
into a question again. It's a nightmare for the NFL
to be able to try to make that work, especially
when you take into account, and I think one of
the reasons why flexing some of these teams into those
windows or into Thursday night football specifically is tough, is
because nothing's happened with Aaron Rodgers and you know, the
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Jets and Packers. Nothing's happened with Lamar Jackson. So you've
got Baltimore and whatever their potential partner. That schedule could
look a lot different of Lamar's not playing for them.
Same same thing with the Jets until that's for sure,
which even though we think it's it's going to be
until Aaron Rodgers in New York, Jet, you know, you
don't know. So I'm sure the schedule makers have a
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schedule right now in mind with a Lamar goes back
to Baltimore. This is what it looks like Aaron Rodgerson,
because you know it's finally on the Jets. This is
what that schedule looks like. Or is that right? Like
I would be putting together every possible scenario to prepare
for what could take place when this whole thing rolls out.
That's crazy, man, But hey, that's the NFL. We're gonna
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get more NFL. There's nothing wrong, and we're gonna get
good NFL games and Al Michael is going to be happy,
which is the most important thing in all this, Yeah positive.
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Right now, we turn it over to the man himself,
the old p on Twitter, Petros Papadakis, the co host
at the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear
on a sports and a Fox College football analyst and
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also a bachelor and bachelorette expert. Petros Welcome in, Good morning,
Good morning, Hello to everybody. Hello. I want to get
the bachelor thing out of the way. I mean, it's
up to you. Guys. Come on, pee, What's what's? Why
do you like The Bachelor? So I don't like the Bachelor?
Why did you say that? It seems like you do.
Jonas has been saying this like a week or two.
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Jonas likes to say things over and over, and he's
got like a impish grant on his face, acting like
it's something of note. No, I don't like the Batchel.
I can understand why somebody would make that mistake, just
about Jonas, who knows better. What about Vanderpump Rules? You
like Vanderpump kind of do like that show? Actually I
(28:21):
haven't watched. I haven't sat there an episode in years.
What I'll do now is like I'll put my wife
in bed and then I'll like put it on and
walk out of the room. But yeah, but uh, I
used to watch Vanderpump Rules back in the day, and
I am upset about the controversy, the scandival. But none
(28:43):
of you are. None of your listeners know that at all.
But the Bachelor they probably don't cover either. What happened?
How did I start doing The Bachelor? I haven't told
this story in so long. Oh, it was because of
my wife. When my wife and I were dating, I
guess her and her girlfriends on Monday night used to
(29:03):
have like the thing where they would sit together and
watch The Bachelor and drink white wine or whatever girls do.
And I was living in sam Pedro, which is considerably
far away from my wife who was living on the
West Side when we were dating, So she'd come over
(29:24):
on a Monday night and she'd want to watch the show,
and I would watch with her, and I would get
so upset watching the show and so cringe e during
the show. I would just talk throughout the show and
really piss her off. Yeah, And like I'd get upset
(29:46):
about things and stick my face and the pillow creases
and kick my legs in the air and just really
put on a show myself while watching the show. And
then I would start going on Kevin and Bean, which
was a really popular morning show in LA for decades
on k Rock, which was a really popular station in
(30:09):
LA for decades, and all that's gone now. But I
would go on Kevin and Bean and talk about it
because it would bug them. But one of them liked
that the other one did, and then it started becoming
a report on Kevin and Bean that I would do,
and then with Ralph Garman, and then I started doing
(30:30):
my own report on the show. And that was like,
I don't know, fourteen fifteen years ago, and now I'm
stuck doing the goddamn Bachelor. I mean, dude, a three
hour finale of just bs and the show is an
amazing manipulation of people, because well, no, it really is
(30:53):
a long time ago. Like what was the very first
reality show where people were in a place in acting
on camera? Real World World correct, Real World and Survivor
gets all the credit, but Real World was the original
Survivor was like a competition. Like the interesting thing about
Survivor is you got it? Well, yeah, that part of it,
(31:17):
but just the logistical show part, like you have guys
in the trees, climbing up grips, putting lights in the jungle,
you know, weird stuff like that the Real World And
that's an interesting point because it was a controlled environment.
But the Real World, New York, Real World. The first
few seasons they watched TV and they had you know,
(31:39):
access to the world telephones and things like that, you know,
before email and the internet was prevalent. But when Real
World Boston came around, they were all stoners and they
would smoke weed and stare at the TV and they
had a really Seriously, the production had a really hard
time creating content because they weren't interacting. And that is
(32:03):
when Reality TV and it came through the real real world,
and then it came through the real world Boston. Reality
TV figured out, if we take these people's access to media,
ie television, email, your phone, all the different stuff that's
(32:24):
developed over the years, we will have them completely and
totally in our control and they'll have nothing but the production. Basically,
the production becomes like a deity or a place of worship.
Like whenever you watch The Bachelor and you see somebody
in the back of a car after they got rejected,
(32:46):
and they always say, I don't think I'll ever find love.
I don't know, this is it. No one loves me.
I'm unlovable. I'm not you know, it's because there's some
producers screaming at them or goading them on, sitting across
from them in the limousine. Do you think you'll ever
find love? I mean, you're twenty three, You're you might
(33:07):
as well be done. You're a spinster. I mean, they
just go it's just it's a it's an amazing emotional
manipulation of people that should know better, but they just
so desperately want to be on TV and so desperately
want to be talked about, and our weird celebrity culture,
which is almost like completely backward at this point, it's
(33:28):
gone so far the other way. So that's the interesting
part of it, that they stripped these people of their
identity in their contacts with the rest of the world
and then just manipulate the hell out of them through production,
And that part of it is actually pretty interesting. Now, Petros,
did you happen to I know you were breaking down
(33:49):
all the coverage of Browny James and the the McDonald's
second game. Yeah, media, a giant puff piece in the
La Times about Brownie James and not one quote from
Bronni James. I mean, unbelievable expose about a guy that
(34:12):
doesn't have No one's ever talked to Bronnie James in town.
I mean, we have the best high school writer in
the world, Eric Sondheimer, who anybody like from Darryl Strawberry
on has come through over the years of competing here,
and he was never given access to Bronni James. Sierra
(34:33):
Canyon has their own media day, and no one had
access to Bronnie James. He's a McDonald's All American even
though he's not All first Team All League here in
Southern California, and no one had access to Bronni James
at the McDonald's All American game. And he wouldn't wear
(34:54):
the the Adidas Yeah, so he had to. You know,
It's just it's much. I wish the young man luck,
but it does feel as if his father's doing him
a great disservice. I want to go back to reality TV,
just I want to go back to reality TV, one
of my favorites. I'm curious if you watch this and
(35:15):
how you feel about it. I'm a big naked and
afraid guy. Oh I've never watched that, but you know,
I worked up I worked with I worked on a
reality show called Pros Versus Joe's. Yeah. And the reason
I call it a reality show, and it was even
more so than like a game show, which is what
Survivor is too, and also a reality show, is that
(35:38):
it was all the reality people and that's how I
kind of learned about it. Like all of these people
now the actual shows are trash, right, like the actual
it is. It's just it's just fodder, you know, the
rock of love, the flavor of love. It's all be
as right, but the art and it really is interesting
(36:01):
if you think about it. I mean, if you're doing
a reality show and there's like twenty people involved, and
you're shooting in the field in different places around the
city or wherever, all those people are miked up, all
those people are on camera for hours, and somebody has
to collect that information right and then sync it up
(36:24):
and make a story out of it. That is hard
to do. To keep all of those streams of information
going and actually make a story with the beginning in
the middle and an end out of it is pretty brilliant.
And it's all the same people. I mean, these guys
were like, oh yeah, this one camera guy and this
(36:44):
one audio guy, they married each other's sisters, this one
guy slept on this guy's couch with an amazing race
season five, and Morocco like they really they're like this
weird band of gypsies. And it's only a certain amount
of people that can actually do TV like that. So
I'd imagine it's all that A lot of the people
(37:05):
I worked with on Broth versus Joe's are involved in
all of these shows. And uh, it is pretty wild
because the protocol that's come to exist and like the
last twenty years of how they go about doing it,
it's pretty amazing if you ever see it up close.
But the actual final product, as we say, it's trash.
I like naked the frame because sometimes you get to
(37:26):
see a big ass. I love them. What's wrong with that?
I mean, did they show the behind? It's not they didn't.
It's not they had. They have had the blur out
in between the legs, but they show the beer back. Yeah,
(37:48):
you see the toilet? You what was that allowed? On
twenty twenty three, Brady, wake up, we get to see ass.
I mean, I'm not necessarily against it. I'm just there's
there's a lot of things right now. I'm trying to
I'm trying to explain to my kids, all right that, well,
here's something you can explain to him. Here we go
on European TV. Oh geez, they'll show boobs, they'll say
(38:11):
the S word. Huh, you know they'll do that. They
do that. And here sports radio studios too, well, come
on virto here every day. A lady's boob flopped out
during the Super Bowl twenty years ago, Janet Jackson. Janet
Jackson and we went into like a weird like media
(38:32):
morality freeze for six months. Did it flop out or
was it pulled out? We kind of, well it whatever
happened doing it kind of went like a bloop, Yeah,
kind of it did bloop kind of like that's what
it was, by the way, you know. But we'll show
a guy, like we'll show a guy a cadaver on
a on a table in any of these murder shows
(38:55):
just splayed open. We'll show people get their heads blown
clean off. We'll show people get their limbs blown off.
We'll deal with violence. I mean we but god forbid
you show somebody's nipples, you know, God forbid we see
somebody's ass crack the whole way. You know, we have
to blur it out because they're wearing a certain kind
of g string. It's like we're such a backward society.
(39:17):
It's it's it's really funny. I mean, we just the
fact that you can see like in these murder shows
and these uh different adult like uh what do they
call them? Series, like blue Bloods you know, it's like
people die all the time, horribly violent deaths, live on TV,
watching all the time, watching God jump out of a
(39:37):
car yesterday. Yeah, well your buddy jumping out of the
car like that, Well yeah I was my boy told
him about to steal that police cruiser and drive the
Lancaster and jump out of the car and dine from everybody.
But who did it? The point is we'll show that,
but God forbid. Oh my god, are boob popped out? Now?
You better watch what you see on the radio for
the next six what it's like, My god, what a joke.
(40:00):
I didn't realize that. So when y'all were saying it
was over when he jumped out, that's which he died.
Oh yeah, I was watching the one when I was
in college on my old tube TV. God knows, you know,
there was no HD but the guy that shot himself
(40:20):
on the one oh five on the overpass, and that's
why they paying way out. Now. You know, it's funny
when we're doing the show and it's like we're talking
about it, it's like, oh yeah and this and that,
uh oh, and then we heard it out so uh
him jinu pitch, Can you go back? To something. Yes,
(40:41):
plus Petros. Obviously you were on Pros versus shows and
leavor did you say you were on that. We were
the first My group was the first group to lose
to some jos. That was after they fired me. Yeah,
but I did. I did three seasons and they never
saw Did you ever see that the pros lose of
(41:01):
the Joe's, Oh sure all the time. Well, when you
were doing it, they did. When I did it, we
did it like when I did it, it was a
different show. When I did it. We we did stuff. Yeah.
When when I did it, we did stuff that was
totally illegal and should have been like when they when
LEVARD did it, they changed the production. It became a
(41:23):
one day shoot as opposed to like a week long shoot.
They were in more of a controlled environment as opposed
to just like outside at RFK Stadium before they knocked
it down fighting giant rats like the Nutcracker. Uh. It was.
It was an interesting thing. Uh. We had like you
know our Turro gotta gotta the great body. Yes, we
(41:46):
must have fought him. He must have fought like thirty
rounds against dudes and was just knock and do like
and I was like this, we're gonna kill something at
least maybe God. We had all kinds of stuff. But
my favorite story ever from Pros versus Joe's is I
(42:07):
think from the first season. We got herschel Walker out
there and this is I don't know, eighteen years ago,
herschel Walker and he swollen, he's jacked, and he's just
breathing through his nostrils nostrils, not talking to anybody, and
they're like, Okay, we're gonna do this thing where you
tackle herschel Walker on the goal line. And I was like,
(42:28):
we haven't. I'm going to do a what oh no?
And they literally, I mean they didn't understand football. I mean,
these are the guys that worked on Survivor. So they
were like, okay, so we're gonna put a cone at
the five and we're gonna start him at the ten,
and you're going to start and you tackle herschel Walker
and I'm like and I'm looking at him and he's
(42:50):
breathing out of his nose like that Lebron emoji. And
the first guy was like this goofy, long, kind of
tall guy and he's like, what did I do? And
I mean, I'm just a post I'm just a guy
in jeans and like yeah, And I was like, well,
I was like, keep your head up, you know, don't
don't put your head down, you know, whatever you do,
(43:12):
keep your head up, you know, because you're gonna break
your neck. Look at him and he's over there like
already freaking out. And uh the first guy, I thought
he broke his neck. He got burney out right, I
mean right. It was horrible, Like this is the reality
of what happens. This was I mean, that show was
(43:33):
That show was really special. Uh, no one will ever
do that kind of stuff again. And I was I
was this guy's gonna die. I was like, this is
And then the next guy was like a flying little
Mexican guy and he I could not believe it. He
was like one centimeter off the ground like a missile
(43:56):
and he blew herschel walker, I mean herschel walker in
the end zone. But he literally launched, like almost tumbled
into the goalpos because he hit him like so low
and like on the tops of his shoes. That was
pretty good. Oh man, get him on Twitter at the
old pe Petros Papa dagas the co host of the
(44:20):
Petros and Money Show on the Blowtorch Am five seventy
LA Sports, which, by the way, you guys will be
at Dodger Stadium for the season opener. Correct, Petros, What
the hell is that? Yeah, it's a bummer. Whatever happened
to opening Day? No kidding? Seriously, yeah, no kidding. But
you can see Petris. I want everybody to see the
hobos driving downtown. Yeah, that's true. Apparently it's much safer
(44:43):
at night. And Petro's always a Wednesday tradition. We'll do
it again next week. P Thanks, all right, I'll be
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When Lamar, dy Quinn and Jonas knocks on radio, good
morning high Yeah, Hi, good morning, my neighbor. Somebody's recovering,
somebody's getting their voice back. Yeah, that's coming around. Yeah,
(00:23):
come around. That's what I'm talking. It's that kind of
Midwest tough perseverance. Right. You looked it in the eyes
and you said kiss it, and then you walked right
through the smoke, walked right through the fire, and now
you're back out on the other side and everything's looking up.
How about honestly, if if you want me to be
honest with you, Um, I think it was Scotch. I
got tired of just taking medicine one point, and I
(00:45):
was like, you know what, I have a couple of
glasses of Scotch. Let's see what this does. Let's just
try to kill off everything, everything possible in my body. Wait,
really that that was the way they called Grandpa's cough
medicine for a reason. So I was like, I haven't
tried this yet, Let's let's give this a try. I
remember my buddy who's a German. His family's like from Germany,
(01:07):
and they told me that Yeager was the German cough syrup,
and he said I got the flu one time and
he said, do a shot of Yeager. I was like, no,
I'm not doing a shot of Yeager. I feel like crap.
So now I'm telling you, like, do a shot. It
really helped, like it really, yes, really help sharing this
information with me. You know, three days ago, why didn't
know you like Jager? And it feels like it's kind
(01:27):
of thick, so it would actually cause more problems to
your to your throat. Like just like I'm Irish, Jonas,
even though you don't like to think I'm not, I am.
So we we pretty much you know, we don't discriminate
against any alcohol. Okay, now I know. There you go,
little scotch, Little scotch for you, and well people might
be breaking out the scotch at the NFL offices. A
lot of owners could be really really relieved, probably looking
(01:49):
around going dodged a bullet, because apparently the long standing
nightmare in the National Football League that is the Dan
Snyder era in Washington could be coming to an end because,
according to several reports out there, there are two bids
in for the Washington Commandos slash football team slash commander
(02:12):
slash former team of a guy wearing the hat and
the logo that Kyrie Irving had kicked out of a
basketball game the other night. There are two bids now
in at six billion dollars apiece, and Adam Schefter of
ESPN is saying that it looks like Dan Snyder could
sell the team and that a purchase agreement could be
in place by next month's draft. How about it finally
(02:36):
after all this time? Yeah, scotch LaVar ye. I don't know,
celebration for me, but hey, listen, if if it's true,
then I think it's pretty interesting. And the first thing
(02:57):
I think about is what what happens once once the
seal is approved? Like this, this seal is is it
has to be approved obviously by by the by the
other owners. But then what what recourse? What action is
(03:18):
going to be taken against Dan Snyder with everything that
has transpired, Because even though you sell the team, it's
not like, Okay, I get to sell the team. I
get to collect this six billion dollars and go about
my business. There's more to it. There's more to the story,
and I'm just curious as to where does this all
(03:40):
go like? And and for what it's worth, it may
get quiet after, you know, after the seal of the
team takes place, things may you know, happen more more obscurely.
But I'm you know, I don't know. I'm curious as
to if it is over once once he sells the team,
(04:01):
or is it just really beginning, you know, because I
just I don't see him walking away getting having the
ability to walk away from everything that that he's been
a part of, you know, Scotch Free, good point Wait, wait,
sweet to stick, You're landing. So you think that there's
still gonna be something down the pike as far as
(04:24):
him having a deal with some of the issues that
went on for his time there, because as a stands
right now, he bought this team for eight hundred million
dollars with some investors back in nineteen ninety nine, and
he's going to cash out with about six billion, so
it looks like double Yeah, well that's all more than
more than a little yeah, I mean, I mean eight
(04:45):
hundred million, eight hundred million, right, one point one point
six one point six six, Yeah, But I'm saying he's
selling it for more than double, So yeah, it's more
than but it's more than double anyway. It's like, yeah,
it's crazy, man, Yeah that's crazy. But hey, little Danny's
(05:05):
getting it done and he's going to see a big
fat check in his pocket for his yacht or whatever
property he's going to be selling him forward, so to
because there was some speculation that he was trying to
figure out a way that if he sold the team,
he wouldn't be held accountable and there would be no
more investigations going on. If he gets the six billion
(05:26):
and also gets that in return, what a what a
way to get out of all the craft that he
went through the past couple of decades only to come
out with this much, with this much return on his
investment and then not have to deal with any of
the backlash moving forward. And yeah, I just don't see
that happening. But I don't know that the public will
(05:48):
know how it all plays out, is what I think?
You know, I don't know, Yeah, what do you mean
by that? Like again, I don't I don't know if
if whatever happened and is going to be publicized, Like
I'm just I'm curious as to if it will be publicized,
if if there is recourse that that takes place, if
(06:11):
if this further continues to come out, or if it
just goes away. No, this just go away. I mean,
here's the reality they had. Remember when Jerry Richardson sold
the team in Carolina. That's how obviously David Tepper got it.
And if I'm not mistaken, he was accused or alleged
(06:31):
that I had said, was it was a racial remark,
yea sexual harassments, all that stuff. Okay, did you notice
how quick they turned that into a sale the NFL?
When I say that, and then David Tepper takes over
and whoever talks about that now never, no one. It's
it's gonna be the same exact thing with Dan Snyder.
(06:54):
They're trying to facilitate this sale, whether it's Josh Harris's
group or the he asked a PAPIs you know yeah whatever?
This last name is way too many vowels. Can that
guy figure it out before he actually takes his team?
Figure out? How about this? How about this? You're not
a part of it? All right. We can act like
your big counts, but it doesn't because your name is
(07:15):
too long, you have too many vows. I believe it's
a postalapabolus. Yeah, something like that, all right, But seriously,
like he's got one, two, three, four or five, six,
seven eight vowels? He's got eight vowels in his name. Well, Steven,
it's a way too long, Steven Apocalypse whatever his name is.
Figured that out before you want to take the take
the rains from Danny Snyder please, Yeah, I just he
(07:37):
can't own the team. He can't win this bid purely
because no one's gonna be able to pronounce his last name, agreed.
And there's already a stephen A, so he is. He's
a Steve. He can't be Steve A. That's gonna be confusing, right, Yeah,
you've got Steven A Smith. You can't have another stephen A. Agreed.
So he's gonna have to just not be a part
of this anyway, you know, definitely can't. That's like, you know, yeah,
(07:58):
it's defensive. Yeah, I gotta I gotta push back a
little bit on this. I don't see this being the
same scenario that played out in Carolina. It's a smaller market,
and and and for what it's worth, Dan Snyder is
has become a notorious person in the media, much more
(08:23):
than than pretty much any any owner that that really
outside of maybe what took place in LA with the
Clippers owner, I think he's he's been infamous for so
long that I don't think that people are going to
let it go. That's what that's why. Okay, But but
but take the Clippers into account. Who talks about that anymore? Yeah,
(08:45):
I mean not too much at all. Right, Well, that's
what I'm saying. That's the whole point. Like the league's
incentivized to move on from it. The organization is incentivized
to move on from it unless he's facing any sort
of federal charges, which you would have thought that happened
by now. And by the way, he just hops on
his yacht and heads to international water where he just
lives on his yacht, and then I guess he's he's
(09:07):
able to circle. You had this report that came out
over the weekend where owners were something along the lines
of they're going to go ahead and pull back on
their vote to try and get him out if he
is indeed planning on selling the team. Say, okay, that's
what this is all about. I don't think owners or
anybody in the NFL has the balls to try and
(09:27):
go after him after he's gone, because he knows where
everybody's bodies are buried, and he's known it this entire time.
And the idea that after he's gone and they finally
get their wish and everybody can move on and just
go let's everybody, let's be hush hush here. And they've
had twenty plush years of evidence and twenty plush years
of a landing strip to try and figure out how
(09:48):
they can go after him and everybody be safe on
the other side, and nobody's been able to do it,
and nobody's wanted to do it, and they're not doing
it anytime soon. Telling you, I'm telling you that they
don't want that heat. I just don't know if it's
going to come. I just don't know if it's going
to come from the owners, That's what I'll say. I
don't know if the pressure or promise six billion hour
(10:12):
whatever he makes from it to kind of you to
make it go away. Yeah, yeah, I mean that. That's
the reality too, is he's got a lot more money
to kind of make it go away or just go
away and make sure it goes away. By the way,
the Broncos got what four point was a four point six.
The Broncos went four point yeah six, something like that.
Jesus wash, the Commandos are terrible. And here we are
(10:36):
six billion dollars, all the negative stuff attached to it,
all everything attached to it, and six billion dollars they're
going to go for her seven seven eight market. Good market.
The interesting thing is, I wonder how much they make
per year like that. That's what I'm curious to see.
And obviously you get a glimpse into Green Bay. But
as um as Lavara touched on, you know, DC is
(10:58):
a much bigger market. So you would assume that even
as bad as the tendance has been and some of
the other things, their value would still be higher than
than Green Bay, and they'd still be earning more money
in a bigger market like that. But I mean, it's
you know, look, it's a big payout, it's a bit,
it's a golden parachute, however you want to look at it.
(11:19):
And at the end of the day, it's a step
moving in the right direction for the NFL. And that's
why I just I think it's gonna go away. I
think they wanted to go away. Dan Schneyder wants it
to go away, and as you know, Jonas so artfully
pointed out, Dan Snyder does know where the bodies are buried.
You know, I mean, you come at him, He's gonna
be coming at your necktie. You better believe it. I
(11:43):
get I get it. For the owners, I just don't know,
if you know, I don't know. There may be because
more cocause they're gonna say, like, what do you want?
We took away his team, took away give him six billion.
We took away his team. And then they they've already tried,
like some have already tried to take some these cases.
It hasn't got anywhere. Yeah, I hear you listen. It
(12:06):
may go away, it may disappear. I'm just saying I'm
curious to will it because I just got this feeling
it ain't gonna be over. I just got a feeling.
I mean, it could be a good feeling. I got
a feeling that have been that, like's not gonna be
all over food last night, like Thai food or Chinese
(12:27):
or Needing food or some I did have Asian food,
Like did you really see? That's what I'm thinking. I
think you need to go to the bathroom, buddy. I
think that's what the feeling is. Hey, little Danny's got
to shovel, and I don't feel any sudden nits or anything.
I swear to you. I had a bad meal like
that once and I was just like back in high
school and I almost broke up with my girlfriend and
(12:48):
I realized, like it was just I needed to go
to the bathroom. I was like, man, I got this
pit in my stomach. I don't know what I'm doing.
I don't know I'm thinking. And then I went to
the bathroom. I was like, Oh, I feel better. I
was like, I don't know. Great point, I mean, we
are hitting into a break, so yeah, I'll try. You know,
maybe that's exactly what this is. Because about things. Be
(13:10):
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Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So there's been
a lot of pushback from players and people who cover
the NFL just about Thursday games in the NFL. Is
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it really good for the league, you know, the health
of the players, all of that involved. If we care
about concussions and the physical damage that football does. And
then you had Amazon Prime take over this past season,
and yet Al Michaels and Kirk curve Street openly complaining
about the quality of football that was there. Though there's
been a lot of discussion about how do you improve it,
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and one of the things that's been thrown out there's
the possibility of flexing Thursday day night football games later
in the season to where you can just all of
a sudden throw a team in on a Thursday night game. Now,
the idea was that you're going to give them about
fifteen days notice, so it's not going to be like
the week of or anything like that. They're going to
give them some time and that's when they would look
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to go ahead and maybe make a switch. They've tabled that.
They did not vote on that yesterday. Apparently there was
just a little bit of a vote that was put
together and they need twenty please do not do this. Yeah, well,
there's there's twenty four votes you need to pass any
of these rules. And the numbers I saw were twenty
two owners voted for it. Then you had another eight
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owners that were against it and another two that were uncommitted.
They were, they weren't really ready to go ahead and
make a decision either way. So that'll be discussed potentially
in May. They're going to have that discussion again at
the next meetings. But one of the things that was
announced yesterday that could be a small step towards that
direction is that the NFL is now allowing teams and
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pointing out that teams can play not one Monday and
Thursday night game like it has been over the past
few years, but now they can qualify to play for
two Thursday nights, so and that the Thanksgiving games those
don't count as a Thursday. So you've got teams that
will be picked to play twice on Thursday night. A
lot of people not happy about it. John Mara of
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the New York Giants, the owner there, he spoke out
against the Thursday flexing and all that. You had Patrick
Mahomes take to social media showing his displeasure about Thursday
night games and multiple times having to play a Thursday
night game. If you're one of these better teams in
the league. Jackson Mahomes, No, that was no. Jackson Mahomes
was on TikTok. I believe with you say he might
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have been on TikTok, saying that he was disgusted by them. No.
But Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, he did
talk about the decision to add a second Thursday night
game to the slate of several of these teams yesterday
and also the potential of some flexing on Thursday night,
and he was asked specifically, is the NFL looking at
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Amazon's best interest over the best interest of some of
the player's health and other f factors that are playing
into this. Here was the commissioner. I don't think we
are putting Amazon over player's interests. You know, we've always
been looking at the data with respect to injuries and
the impact on players. That was drove our decisions throughout
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the first twelve or so years of Thursday night football
and how it's evolved. And I think we have data
that's very clear. It doesn't show higher injury rate, but
we recognize shorter weeks. We went through this in COVID too.
It's you know, we had to have a lot of
flexibility in those areas, so those are obviously different circumstances,
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but we work very closely on that. I hear from
a lot of players directly too. They love the ten
days afterwards. In fact, they call it a mini buy,
and so there's some benefits on that side. You have
different views. You want to consider all of them. But
players have different views, coaches have different views, and we
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have to try to balance all them. So away we
go little little al Michael's bitching and moaning last year,
and look how far we've come, God forbid love it.
Have you guys ever heard Roger Goodell raised his voice?
But I've also never been scolded by Roger, So I'm
just saying, have you ever heard him speak in the
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public with like he has this? It's it's there's a
lot there. There's like in you know, in churches, you
know you have you know people that speak that way.
You know in like psychology, you know people speak that way.
Counselors they speak that way. He has that voice where
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he speaks in a disarming tone, and it's pretty interesting.
I don't I can't recall ever hearing him raise his
voice like like, I've never heard him say something like
sternly like like what do you mean we're not doing
this or we're looking into it, so just just calm
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down or any He's never, he's always very like I
don't want to say it's monotone, but I think it's
interesting because this is one of those conversations a Thursday
night schedule flex schedule. It to me, it doesn't make sense,
but that's my opinion. I just don't think it makes
sense at all. But regardless of what side you fall on,
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Roger Goodell approaches and I guess this is why he
gets pays the big dollars to be a commissioner. He
just he's he's disarming in the way that he speaks
about things. It's like, it's gonna be okay, you know,
let's let's let's just get up off of the ground.
Let's uh, let's clean up that scrape on your knee,
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and you know, we'll put put some you know, some
bandages on it and it's all going to be okay.
Like is that like what it comes down to? Like
really like just being able to manage conversations because generally speaking,
how many times do we really hear solutions really like
like definitive solutions really being discussed, Like did he say
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anything that was definitive and that that sound bite? Did
you take anything away from it that was definitive towards it,
he mean, not really didn't. He pointed out the pros
of playing two Thursday night games now, which is the
mini buy on the back end, so that players are
more important than Amazon. Yeah, that was what I took
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from it, Yes, which is interesting because I mean, obviously
Patrick Mahomes had a reaction to it. He wasn't a fan.
I think you asked most players, and they like to
be in a routine, you know, they like to be
able to have the ability to have that full week
to recover. You know. You hear people like George Kittle
talk about, Hey, when I go out there and play,
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I'm getting into car Rex like tens of car recks
every game, and so it takes me, you know, in
the mid end of the season, and LaVar you know
this as well as anyone like just to be able
to recover. And so I think the fact that you
could be having and I would assume these are gonna
be the top teams in the league, the fact that
you could be having them play multiple games on short weeks,
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even with the quote unquote mini buy, that doesn't matter
for players, Like a lot of those guys aren't gonna
be ready for it. Like, I think that's where you
fall into an instance where you want to have the
top talent out there playing well. If they don't have
sufficient time to be able to recover, you might not
get them out there. I mean that includes quarterback, that
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includes all of them. We just talked about a minute ago,
how the NBA is going an issue with load management.
You start playing a bunch of games on short weeks,
you're gonna have an issue in the NFL with guys
not soon. And that's where I've said this forever. You
had your m during COVID. Move the schedule around the
entire week, save Friday nights for high school football, save
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Saturdays until college football is over with for high school
because some high school teams play on Saturdays and college football.
Take Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Use them all, put
them all in primetime. I promise you. It will rate
better than what is currently on in those hours. Yes,
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and it's gonna be better for the overall product. It
will be better for the players and rest because the
schedule makers can bake in more rest time for these players.
And so instead of playing a Sunday game and turning
around and playing Thursday night. They could sit there and say, Okay,
they played on Monday last week. This week, now they're
going to play on a Tuesday. The following week. We
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might have them play again on Wednesday, and then they'll
have their buy and then after week coming back, they
get back on track on a Sunday. You can mess
with all those You could figure this out to be
able to actually have the best interest of the player's
health in mind, and not even at an additional buye week.
I don't know why the NFL is so hesitant to
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do this if I'm a TV partner, and especially broadcast
as you look at the streaming services and obviously people
binge watch what they want to watch, when they want
to watch it, so there's not very much appointment television
anyone anymore. Well, if that's the case, and you're spending
all this money on rights for these leagues, move them
around the week with the exception of Friday and Saturday,
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and move them around like to me, it makes all
the sense in the world. I don't know why they
don't explore it, but players can't be happy with this.
And if you're the players Union, once again you took
another l You apparently didn't want to put in the
last CBA that you couldn't have multiple teams playing Thursday
night football games and guys playing on short weeks, putting
in harm's way. Yeah, because all they did was tweaked
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the rule right and just say yeah, we're gonna go
ahead and now allow you to add that second one.
This wasn't anything that was voted on. They just tweaked
a rule. That's it. That's what the owners do every
time and then and the players unions always like, oh yeah,
but they're letthers smoke weed more. Yeah, they're let us
smoke weed more and get away with this and that
it just I And also the thought of playing games
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on all those other days that you've talked about flexing
Thursday night games I'm not crazy about. But if you
were to present an NFL product that would have games
on the Sunday all the way through the Thursday, I
don't know anybody that could find the negative in that.
I don't know what the con is to that, because
a network's not going to say no. I mean, it's
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live programming, and it's it's you know, if NFL's King,
Football's King, network's not going to say no. If players
have rest before or afterwards, they're probably not going to
push back on it. The only pushback you might hear
from some people is, well, our fans really gonna want
to go crowd a stadium on a Wednesday night? What
are you talking about? They're doing twelve thousand and some
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of these basketball venues. You don't think people would want
to come out and see an NFL game and go
out there, and knowing we have a limited number of
these during the course of the week, now we got
something to do on a Wednesday. If you've got crappy
NBA teams bringing fans into arenas, the idea that you
wouldn't bring a stadium full of football fans in with
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all of the notoriety the NFL gets, all the game,
everything that comes along with it, there's no con to it.
The only con in all of this is flexing Thursday
night games. And now you're making it to where players
can play multiple Thursday night games. And as I said before,
a team like the Cowboys, all of a sudden, the
Cowboys are going to have to play three Thursday night
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games because they're not even counting Thanksgiving as a Thursday
night game. That's already baked into the schedule, So now
the Cowboys are looking at it going okay, so now
we got to worry about having a short week multiple
times a year, and on top of it, a third
week to go along with it. Same with the Lions.
I just the flexing, I don't get Everything else to
me makes sense, But it's the flexing that you've got
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a lot of people pushing back on now, which and
there's a feeling that it is going to be passed
in May when they bought on it again. I mean,
that's all I was gonna say. Though it's been tabled
for now, so it's not to me really a discussion point.
And just because it's tabled for May doesn't mean it
it will necessarily come back around what it will work.
I mean, I think it would make sense to pair
it up. If you're going to have teams play multiple
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Thurst to night games, it would make sense to have
the ability to flex teams into it. But it calls
into a question again. It's a nightmare for the NFL
to be able to try to make that work, especially
when you take into account, and I think one of
the reasons why flexing some of these teams into those
windows or into Thursday night football specifically is tough, is
because nothing's happened with Aaron Rodgers and you know, the
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Jets and Packers. Nothing's happened with Lamar Jackson. So you've
got Baltimore and whatever their potential partner. That schedule could
look a lot different of Lamar's not playing for them.
Same same thing with the Jets until that's for sure,
which even though we think it's it's going to be
until Aaron Rodgers in New York, Jet, you know, you
don't know. So I'm sure the schedule makers have a
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schedule right now in mind with a Lamar goes back
to Baltimore. This is what it looks like Aaron Rodgerson,
because you know it's finally on the Jets. This is
what that schedule looks like. Or is that right? Like
I would be putting together every possible scenario to prepare
for what could take place when this whole thing rolls out.
That's crazy, man, But hey, that's the NFL. We're gonna
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get more NFL. There's nothing wrong, and we're gonna get
good NFL games and Al Michael is going to be happy,
which is the most important thing in all this, Yeah positive.
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Right now, we turn it over to the man himself,
the old p on Twitter, Petros Papadakis, the co host
at the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear
on a sports and a Fox College football analyst and
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also a bachelor and bachelorette expert. Petros Welcome in, Good morning,
Good morning, Hello to everybody. Hello. I want to get
the bachelor thing out of the way. I mean, it's
up to you. Guys. Come on, pee, What's what's? Why
do you like The Bachelor? So I don't like the Bachelor?
Why did you say that? It seems like you do.
Jonas has been saying this like a week or two.
(28:00):
Jonas likes to say things over and over, and he's
got like a impish grant on his face, acting like
it's something of note. No, I don't like the Batchel.
I can understand why somebody would make that mistake, just
about Jonas, who knows better. What about Vanderpump Rules? You
like Vanderpump kind of do like that show? Actually I
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haven't watched. I haven't sat there an episode in years.
What I'll do now is like I'll put my wife
in bed and then I'll like put it on and
walk out of the room. But yeah, but uh, I
used to watch Vanderpump Rules back in the day, and
I am upset about the controversy, the scandival. But none
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of you are. None of your listeners know that at all.
But the Bachelor they probably don't cover either. What happened?
How did I start doing The Bachelor? I haven't told
this story in so long. Oh, it was because of
my wife. When my wife and I were dating, I
guess her and her girlfriends on Monday night used to
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have like the thing where they would sit together and
watch The Bachelor and drink white wine or whatever girls do.
And I was living in sam Pedro, which is considerably
far away from my wife who was living on the
West Side when we were dating, So she'd come over
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on a Monday night and she'd want to watch the show,
and I would watch with her, and I would get
so upset watching the show and so cringe e during
the show. I would just talk throughout the show and
really piss her off. Yeah, And like I'd get upset
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about things and stick my face and the pillow creases
and kick my legs in the air and just really
put on a show myself while watching the show. And
then I would start going on Kevin and Bean, which
was a really popular morning show in LA for decades
on k Rock, which was a really popular station in
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LA for decades, and all that's gone now. But I
would go on Kevin and Bean and talk about it
because it would bug them. But one of them liked
that the other one did, and then it started becoming
a report on Kevin and Bean that I would do,
and then with Ralph Garman, and then I started doing
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my own report on the show. And that was like,
I don't know, fourteen fifteen years ago, and now I'm
stuck doing the goddamn Bachelor. I mean, dude, a three
hour finale of just bs and the show is an
amazing manipulation of people, because well, no, it really is
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a long time ago. Like what was the very first
reality show where people were in a place in acting
on camera? Real World World correct, Real World and Survivor
gets all the credit, but Real World was the original
Survivor was like a competition. Like the interesting thing about
Survivor is you got it? Well, yeah, that part of it,
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but just the logistical show part, like you have guys
in the trees, climbing up grips, putting lights in the jungle,
you know, weird stuff like that the Real World And
that's an interesting point because it was a controlled environment.
But the Real World, New York, Real World. The first
few seasons they watched TV and they had you know,
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access to the world telephones and things like that, you know,
before email and the internet was prevalent. But when Real
World Boston came around, they were all stoners and they
would smoke weed and stare at the TV and they
had a really Seriously, the production had a really hard
time creating content because they weren't interacting. And that is
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when Reality TV and it came through the real real world,
and then it came through the real world Boston. Reality
TV figured out, if we take these people's access to media,
ie television, email, your phone, all the different stuff that's
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developed over the years, we will have them completely and
totally in our control and they'll have nothing but the production. Basically,
the production becomes like a deity or a place of worship.
Like whenever you watch The Bachelor and you see somebody
in the back of a car after they got rejected,
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and they always say, I don't think I'll ever find love.
I don't know, this is it. No one loves me.
I'm unlovable. I'm not you know, it's because there's some
producers screaming at them or goading them on, sitting across
from them in the limousine. Do you think you'll ever
find love? I mean, you're twenty three, You're you might
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as well be done. You're a spinster. I mean, they
just go it's just it's a it's an amazing emotional
manipulation of people that should know better, but they just
so desperately want to be on TV and so desperately
want to be talked about, and our weird celebrity culture,
which is almost like completely backward at this point, it's
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gone so far the other way. So that's the interesting
part of it, that they stripped these people of their
identity in their contacts with the rest of the world
and then just manipulate the hell out of them through production,
And that part of it is actually pretty interesting. Now, Petros,
did you happen to I know you were breaking down
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all the coverage of Browny James and the the McDonald's
second game. Yeah, media, a giant puff piece in the
La Times about Brownie James and not one quote from
Bronni James. I mean, unbelievable expose about a guy that
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doesn't have No one's ever talked to Bronnie James in town.
I mean, we have the best high school writer in
the world, Eric Sondheimer, who anybody like from Darryl Strawberry
on has come through over the years of competing here,
and he was never given access to Bronni James. Sierra
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Canyon has their own media day, and no one had
access to Bronnie James. He's a McDonald's All American even
though he's not All first Team All League here in
Southern California, and no one had access to Bronni James
at the McDonald's All American game. And he wouldn't wear
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the the Adidas Yeah, so he had to. You know,
It's just it's much. I wish the young man luck,
but it does feel as if his father's doing him
a great disservice. I want to go back to reality TV,
just I want to go back to reality TV, one
of my favorites. I'm curious if you watch this and
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how you feel about it. I'm a big naked and
afraid guy. Oh I've never watched that, but you know,
I worked up I worked with I worked on a
reality show called Pros Versus Joe's. Yeah. And the reason
I call it a reality show, and it was even
more so than like a game show, which is what
Survivor is too, and also a reality show, is that
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it was all the reality people and that's how I
kind of learned about it. Like all of these people
now the actual shows are trash, right, like the actual
it is. It's just it's just fodder, you know, the
rock of love, the flavor of love. It's all be
as right, but the art and it really is interesting
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if you think about it. I mean, if you're doing
a reality show and there's like twenty people involved, and
you're shooting in the field in different places around the
city or wherever, all those people are miked up, all
those people are on camera for hours, and somebody has
to collect that information right and then sync it up
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and make a story out of it. That is hard
to do. To keep all of those streams of information
going and actually make a story with the beginning in
the middle and an end out of it is pretty brilliant.
And it's all the same people. I mean, these guys
were like, oh yeah, this one camera guy and this
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one audio guy, they married each other's sisters, this one
guy slept on this guy's couch with an amazing race
season five, and Morocco like they really they're like this
weird band of gypsies. And it's only a certain amount
of people that can actually do TV like that. So
I'd imagine it's all that A lot of the people
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I worked with on Broth versus Joe's are involved in
all of these shows. And uh, it is pretty wild
because the protocol that's come to exist and like the
last twenty years of how they go about doing it,
it's pretty amazing if you ever see it up close.
But the actual final product, as we say, it's trash.
I like naked the frame because sometimes you get to
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see a big ass. I love them. What's wrong with that?
I mean, did they show the behind? It's not they didn't.
It's not they had. They have had the blur out
in between the legs, but they show the beer back. Yeah,
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you see the toilet? You what was that allowed? On
twenty twenty three, Brady, wake up, we get to see ass.
I mean, I'm not necessarily against it. I'm just there's
there's a lot of things right now. I'm trying to
I'm trying to explain to my kids, all right that, well,
here's something you can explain to him. Here we go
on European TV. Oh geez, they'll show boobs, they'll say
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the S word. Huh, you know they'll do that. They
do that. And here sports radio studios too, well, come
on virto here every day. A lady's boob flopped out
during the Super Bowl twenty years ago, Janet Jackson. Janet
Jackson and we went into like a weird like media
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morality freeze for six months. Did it flop out or
was it pulled out? We kind of, well it whatever
happened doing it kind of went like a bloop, Yeah,
kind of it did bloop kind of like that's what
it was, by the way, you know. But we'll show
a guy, like we'll show a guy a cadaver on
a on a table in any of these murder shows
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just splayed open. We'll show people get their heads blown
clean off. We'll show people get their limbs blown off.
We'll deal with violence. I mean we but god forbid
you show somebody's nipples, you know, God forbid we see
somebody's ass crack the whole way. You know, we have
to blur it out because they're wearing a certain kind
of g string. It's like we're such a backward society.
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It's it's it's really funny. I mean, we just the
fact that you can see like in these murder shows
and these uh different adult like uh what do they
call them? Series, like blue Bloods you know, it's like
people die all the time, horribly violent deaths, live on TV,
watching all the time, watching God jump out of a
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car yesterday. Yeah, well your buddy jumping out of the
car like that, Well yeah I was my boy told
him about to steal that police cruiser and drive the
Lancaster and jump out of the car and dine from everybody.
But who did it? The point is we'll show that,
but God forbid. Oh my god, are boob popped out? Now?
You better watch what you see on the radio for
the next six what it's like, My god, what a joke.
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I didn't realize that. So when y'all were saying it
was over when he jumped out, that's which he died.
Oh yeah, I was watching the one when I was
in college on my old tube TV. God knows, you know,
there was no HD but the guy that shot himself
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on the one oh five on the overpass, and that's
why they paying way out. Now. You know, it's funny
when we're doing the show and it's like we're talking
about it, it's like, oh yeah and this and that,
uh oh, and then we heard it out so uh
him jinu pitch, Can you go back? To something. Yes,
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plus Petros. Obviously you were on Pros versus shows and
leavor did you say you were on that. We were
the first My group was the first group to lose
to some jos. That was after they fired me. Yeah,
but I did. I did three seasons and they never
saw Did you ever see that the pros lose of
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the Joe's, Oh sure all the time. Well, when you
were doing it, they did. When I did it, we
did it like when I did it, it was a
different show. When I did it. We we did stuff. Yeah.
When when I did it, we did stuff that was
totally illegal and should have been like when they when
LEVARD did it, they changed the production. It became a
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one day shoot as opposed to like a week long shoot.
They were in more of a controlled environment as opposed
to just like outside at RFK Stadium before they knocked
it down fighting giant rats like the Nutcracker. Uh. It was.
It was an interesting thing. Uh. We had like you
know our Turro gotta gotta the great body. Yes, we
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must have fought him. He must have fought like thirty
rounds against dudes and was just knock and do like
and I was like this, we're gonna kill something at
least maybe God. We had all kinds of stuff. But
my favorite story ever from Pros versus Joe's is I
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think from the first season. We got herschel Walker out
there and this is I don't know, eighteen years ago,
herschel Walker and he swollen, he's jacked, and he's just
breathing through his nostrils nostrils, not talking to anybody, and
they're like, Okay, we're gonna do this thing where you
tackle herschel Walker on the goal line. And I was like,
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we haven't. I'm going to do a what oh no?
And they literally, I mean they didn't understand football. I mean,
these are the guys that worked on Survivor. So they
were like, okay, so we're gonna put a cone at
the five and we're gonna start him at the ten,
and you're going to start and you tackle herschel Walker
and I'm like and I'm looking at him and he's
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breathing out of his nose like that Lebron emoji. And
the first guy was like this goofy, long, kind of
tall guy and he's like, what did I do? And
I mean, I'm just a post I'm just a guy
in jeans and like yeah, And I was like, well,
I was like, keep your head up, you know, don't
don't put your head down, you know, whatever you do,
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keep your head up, you know, because you're gonna break
your neck. Look at him and he's over there like
already freaking out. And uh the first guy, I thought
he broke his neck. He got burney out right, I
mean right. It was horrible, Like this is the reality
of what happens. This was I mean, that show was
(43:33):
That show was really special. Uh, no one will ever
do that kind of stuff again. And I was I
was this guy's gonna die. I was like, this is
And then the next guy was like a flying little
Mexican guy and he I could not believe it. He
was like one centimeter off the ground like a missile
(43:56):
and he blew herschel walker, I mean herschel walker in
the end zone. But he literally launched, like almost tumbled
into the goalpos because he hit him like so low
and like on the tops of his shoes. That was
pretty good. Oh man, get him on Twitter at the
old pe Petros Papa dagas the co host of the
(44:20):
Petros and Money Show on the Blowtorch Am five seventy
LA Sports, which, by the way, you guys will be
at Dodger Stadium for the season opener. Correct, Petros, What
the hell is that? Yeah, it's a bummer. Whatever happened
to opening Day? No kidding? Seriously, yeah, no kidding. But
you can see Petris. I want everybody to see the
hobos driving downtown. Yeah, that's true. Apparently it's much safer
(44:43):
at night. And Petro's always a Wednesday tradition. We'll do
it again next week. P Thanks, all right, I'll be
staying on to listen to the BAQ News. Alright. Yeah.
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