March 31, 2023 • 40 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe and Lamar Jackson continues to confuse everyone with his negotiation tactics. RG3 says he’s in talks with the Josh Harris Group bidding for the Washington Commandos. And a potential new power couple is rumored on “In Case You Missed It.”
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buying should be. You know a farm a long time
ago in Thousand Oaks, California. There is a young, slender
built man who wanted to get big you wanted to
get stronger, and he thought, man, I wish I could
go out there and play football one day. So he
got in the weight room and he lifted and he
lived hard, lifted, and he was told he couldn't do it.
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He was told his arms are too small, his calves
were too small, too small. And guess what what happened?
One day after all that hard work, he still realized
that his casts were too small. But that's not going
to take us away from big a football Friday, right, alright, alright, alright,
come on, come on, j all Friday, little cash, It's
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okay to keep playing snocks. You know. Oh that's just
you and me. I know there's a lot of people
wondering where Jonas is the guy. He's probably in trouble.
You know, he never takes the day off. He's actually
those calves that he's always been trying to perfect. He's
getting calf surgery today. He's getting the calfine plants put in. Fortunately,
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couldn't do the show. He's having surgery early this morning,
so we wish him the best. We hope the caffine
plants go well. And uh, you know he comes out
the way he's hoping he's gonna look right, rumors, are
you got a duy? That's that's the thing. No, no
cafine plants, just all caffine plants. But why is it
always the first thing out of the gate when somebody
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misses the show or isn't on the show? What's wrong?
What happened? Did he get fired? Did he quit? Did
he leave? He hates you? Guys? Like what happened? Like?
Why is that always the first conclusion people go to?
It's like, are we really classically conditioned to be that
negative about things? Yes? We all are. Yes, I think
our society has become that now. Instead of being like
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hopeful and wishing well, we just always think about the bad.
And maybe that has something to do with the news.
The news is mostly negative, right, Twitter, very negative. I
mean it seems like everywhere we look, it's it's a
lot of negativity. Yeah, but again, we wish Jonas well.
He's he's obviously getting the caffine plants put in this morning.
Hopefully he'll look the way he'd liked him. That Good
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luck Jonas, You're good luck Jonas. But you know one
thing I can guarantee you. And speaking of guaranteed, By
the way, there is a you know NFL quarterback who's
who's He's not looking for the biggest contract all right
in NFL history. He's not saying he wants it fully guaranteed.
He just wants more guaranteed money than the Shawn Watson got.
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And that's Lamar Jackson. That I hate to start off
today's show talking about a subject that I know you're
tired of, LaVar ye fatigued, but it keeps giving us
more content to discuss. And I'd love to pick your
brain about this in regards to he doesn't want to
be again that the fully guaranteed contract and all that,
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but he just he wants to have the most guaranteed
money ever put in a contract. Apparently, do you not
see like the disconnect right now with Lamar and understanding reality.
It does seem like there is a a failure to
understand the magnitude the gravity of the situation that he's in.
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That's what I would say, that's it's not going to happen.
It's it's just it's not going to happen. So now,
the question to me, when I when I read this,
it became to me, at what cost, Like what is
he costing himself. And because again we always make it
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a point to throw this out there, I am pro player.
I am pro player because pro players have very very
short shelf life. Whereas owners, they own, like they have
their franchise, it's their business, and you know, you you,
you know they're going to be able to pull through
and they're gonna have players over and over and over again.
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So I'm like, and I was a player, so I'm
pro player. I would love to have a conversation with
Lamar Jackson because maybe I'm missing maybe I'm missing something,
you know, maybe there's there's something here, there's a perspective
that I'm not I'm not seeing. I'm not understanding why
why he's approaching this the way that it's being approached.
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It was interesting Dion came out and was in support
of Lamar and you know, basically said to stand stand
your ground and stand for what you believe in and
different things like that. But Q, I'm sitting here thinking
to myself, when the market has spoken, it's spoken, you're
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not even like for me, You're not even in a
negotiation situation right now. It's just kind of like your
your numbers are too outrageous. We don't want to pay it.
We're not going to pay it. We put you as
an unrestricted UH You're you're not protected, non exclusive, You're
a you're not a protected uh franchise tag player, which
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means we're telling you we respect you enough to say,
you know what, test the market right like, if what
we're telling you is incorrect, then then you should be
able to get that contract from someone else and no
one is touching the situation. At some point, you've got
to decide do I want to play and make money
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or if I ride out this this horse, this one
right here, to try to win the race. Where is
that going to leave me? I have no I have
the slightest idea where I think he's going to have
to end up playing on this contract, this this this
franchise tag. They're not going to get a deal done. Like,
they're not going to get a deal done. That's what
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it sounds like to me. So, I mean, it sounds
like it'd be difficult to get a deal done. If
you already turned down a three year, fully guaranteed deal,
that's one hundred and thirty three million that would have been,
by the way, the second most next to the Shaan
Watson at signing and I can understand Lamar's perspective if
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he says, I've won an MVP, I've been really successful.
I do hate everyone toss around the win loss stat
right of forty five wins and sixteen losses in the
regular season. The most damning stat we talked about this,
touched about this earlier this week is in the playoffs.
He's got a playoff win, but that's it. Yeah, he
hasn't been great in the playoffs. In fact, he's been
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a completely different player once they've gotten to the playoffs.
And so maybe there's a sense of like, have we
hit the ceiling of what we're capable of with Lamar Jackson. Yeah,
we can win regular season games, we get in the playoffs,
but we can't get much further because everyone wants to
blame the Baltimore Ravens. Look when Joe Flacco was there, Okay,
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Joe Flacco's win percentage was close to six hundred during
the course of the regular season. In fact, if you
look at the first four or five seasons that he
was there starting quarterback, he had a hell of a
win loss record, very similar to Lamar. And so when
you start comparing the two, especially like the first four
or five years, you kind of go, well, this has
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been the Baltimore Ravens, like until the last couple of
years that kind of trailed off where they needed to
make the transition from Joe Flacco to Lamar. You know,
this organization has been successful. And I said, yes, this yesterday.
Since they came to Baltimore, they've been a successful organization.
So spare me the win loss record. That's just that's
just facts. It's not an opinion, like they've just been
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a good organization since they've gotten to Baltimore and become
the Ravens. And so you could spout out the win
loss record, but that that's meaningless. Every player should be
looking at that, going so what we didn't you include
the defense, and that you do include the running back.
Mark Andrews has been one of the better tight ends.
I mean, it's a team effort. So when you start
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breaking down the stats and looking at the passing stats
and looking at maybe a little regression from him playing
from the pocket, and that's always been part of it,
you know, you can see where there's been some hesitancy
of hey, how far can he take us? How much
more canny developed or is this player going to become
a player that we have to change our entire roster
on offense to make it help him and match him.
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We have to change our entire scheme and system offensively
as far as what we want to do to make
it work. Oh and then on top of that, he
wants over two hundred and thirty total guaranteed at signing.
I mean, it's a big ask. I think it's more
than people realize. And you've already been when you've already
been offered one hundred and thirty three million, which is
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the second most I would have ever been signed, you know,
at signing at least, and even if I was a
part of a five year deal, that's a significant chunk
of guaranteed money for a player who hasn't finished the
last two seasons. Let me, I think I'll ask you this.
If he has an agent, is he signed to a
long term deal? By now? All right? That's so funny, Okay,
so you won't to take my question and flip it
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on meat, I'm wondering the same. Like to me, it's
a no, you don't think so. I think I think
he's got a long term deal, and I think it
was done a year ago. I think he has a
long term deal, and I think it's probably done before now.
I believe that. But where we are, where we are
right now, if he were to get an agent, does
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he get now? I mean it feels like he's dug
his feet in and it's pride now any ego. If
it feels like now, it's tough because Baltimore has played
this for a player who doesn't have an agent or
whoever is helping him, whether it's the NFLP or whatever else,
they're obviously not able to communicate to him, like this
is the market value? You know, we've talked about this right,
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Like you go to sell your home. You put all
this money in your home. Your home is the best
looking home in the neighborhood. You think it should be
worth X you put on the market. Guess what interest
rates are high? Right now? That you know there's a
big inventory of homes that are out there for sale
too in the neighborhood. People get other options. Your home
is not as worth as much as you think. Market
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value is not what we think someone is worth based
on their stats, based on their achievements, based on it's
what someone's willing to pay. And right now we don't
have another suitor that's willing to pay for Lamar Jackson's
services what he wants and even furthermore anything at the moment,
as well as give up two first round picks. What
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about when people say, well, he's the next one up,
which he is the next one up. I mean, if
you're talking about franchise quarterbacks to get their contracts done,
he's the next guy up. So then what do you
say to that thought process, he's a quarterback, he's the
next guy up. There was a lot of conversation around
Dak Prescott when he was trying to get his contract
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and it took two years, like he got to injury.
They still ended up giving him the contract after it
dragging out a really really long time. What what do
you say to the thought process that he's one of
a handful of franchise quarterbacks in the National Football League
and he's the next one up, so he should be
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in the running for that type of contract. What do
you say to that? My response to that would be
he should be. But if he's looking at Deshaun Watson's contract,
that's just it's not gonna it's not gonna be their
for him. It's an outlier, you know, very similar to
the Kirk Cousins deal. No one else followed suit in
signing of a fully guaranteed deal. And that's not even
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for just quarterbacks, you know, as Richard Sherman blamed, you know,
Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes for their deals. No one
else has followed suit. And and that's the progative. There's
nothing wrong with that, right when you when you come
to an agreement with a you know, a team on
a contract, you better feel good about it. However long
it takes you and whatever negotiations, you got to feel
good about it. And that's the one thing about this
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for Lamar where it's like, all right, dude, if you
don't feel good about what's being offered you, they don't
sign a long term deal. But you also can't complain
about then having the non exclusive franchise tag placed on
you and not even making the forty five million you
would have made if it was an exclusive franchise tag.
Like throughout this entire negotiation process, you just left thirteen
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million on the table because of how difficult things have
become between you and the organization or you and your representatives,
whoever that is, and things have only gotten harder, I think,
to get that offer if you will, if he's next up,
because you've got some of their guy who's potentially going
to get teams fined fifty thousand dollars if they've even
talked to him. I mean, that's my response is if
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you want to have that next deal and be the
next one up, be professional about it. Either find the
right representation that's an attorney and certified by the NFLPA,
or an that's certified by the NFLPA, or talk to
the NFLPA and say, okay, you know what's your advice
at this point, because I can promise you this. The
NFLPA can't be sitting there with their hands are sitting
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on their hands going we're okay with him giving up
a nine figure contract over one hundreds of millions guaranteed,
and we're okay with him passing up on that. Yeah,
because it's impacting more than him, and that's what the
NFLPA has taken the consideration. This is impacting other quarterbacks,
This is impacting the market, because that's how it works. Right.
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If you get one guy that doesn't handle it the
right way. You get one situation, one situation that isn't
handled the right way. That in theory, if I'm the NFLPA,
that's impacting the market for all the other players as well.
So now it becomes that is now a point of
reference right as we're moving forward, whether whether it's handled
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you know which, it will be handled differently by the
other quarterbacks that that end up coming up for their contracts.
But with that being said, this is still a market
play and people have to understand that as well. That's
at stake right now as well. The negotiation impacts the
market of the other quarterbacks that are going to do
their contracts. I mean, is that inaccurate or is that?
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Is that safe to say that that's that's correct, and
that would be what I think, that's what the nfl
PA would be thinking outside of just the welfare and
well being of Lamar Jackson getting a deal done. Yeah, no,
I mean there's no doubt it. Obviously everything plays hand
in hand and without effects. One of the problem is is,
you know, the risk involved. The players are all different, right,
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I mean, with with someone like Joe Burrow, he's got injury,
you know, risk there's there's been injuries in the past,
you know where you've got to take that into account
of here Cincinnati and Joe Burrow doesn't want to hear
that because that he's gonna say his style of play
doesn't put himself at risk. I mean, Josh Allen doesn't
have an injury history really, and yet he plays a
style that you think the Buffalo Bills, you know, and
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the next time he wants to redo a contract that
would be a concern. So you know the thing with
Lamar is and everyone's been pointing out, oh, he got
hurt in the pocket. Okay, folks, we get it. His
style of play though, is conduce if' getting hurt outside
the pocket. You watch enough football, you see it enough,
you come to that realization that the way he plays,
eventually he will have a soft tissue injury that keeps
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him out. He will get hurt. Like it's just a
matter of fact. It's it's it's a matter of watching
the game of football and not acting like, oh, we
haven't seen someone do this before. Yeah, you know, go
back through the Michael Vickiers, go back through anyone else.
Do you want to point to you that had that
sort of athleticism, they eventually get hurt. I mean, what's
the first thing they say to us is, rookies, when
you get in there, it's not it's not if it's
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when it's one hundred percent injury, right, Eventually you're going
to get hurt. You're gonna miss time. And that's obviously
part of it. So you know, I look at it.
I look at it, LaVar, and I'd say, yeah, he's
the next one up. But also within that, if you're
gauging everything off the Deshaun Watson contract, you're gonna you're
gonna have a hard time ultimately, you know, according to
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that value, because the scenario that's there for you, there's
not three teams, four teams, however many it was bidding,
you know, for Lamar Jackson like there was Deshaun Watson. Yeah,
it's just a it's a different scenario and it may
be a tough pill to swallow ultimately, but you know, LaVar,
there's another tough pill that swell that's coming out next.
On Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Live from
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the ti iraq dot com Studios, We've got another potential bidder,
another potential buyer, if you will, for the one Washington Commandos,
the command You don't want to hear who this is
gonna be, and there might be some fireworks on the
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weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Berto Plants of
the Jams today. I feel like he's doing this because
join assistn't here. I'm not sure there's some battle going
on behind the scenes. But you jacked up for the weekend.
Huh yeah, it's gold baby, Yeah, get drunk tomorrow. Dodgers
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damn yeah. Speaking of Dodgers, stay well, we gotta do station.
You go, we gotta We're good, go ahead. Did you
see the dude proposed to his chicken the outfield? Yeah? Yeah,
get obliterated. Oh no, yeah, he got. He got speared
like like Goldberg, like that Goldberg steer. Yeah. Music would
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fit the highlight of help getting knocked that dude man,
the security took him down. Good. Yeah. And then and
then the ring went flying, So I don't even know
if he got the ring. They got the ring back.
God man, you know, so I don't know how that works.
I mean, if you lose personal property when you're trespassing
exactly exactly, who knows. I'm not sure. It's a good question.
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We have to call up. I feel like that's a
question for Albert Breer, like that is that is a
great question. Yes, you're listening to two pros and a
cup of Joe. I'm Brady Quinn. That's LaVar Arrington Jonas.
Jonas couldnt be here today and unfortunately Lee our executive
producer and lead the lap If you couldn't mind, what
was it? What was it that you heard? Because he
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had told me caffine plants he was having surgery for
that this morning. What was it that you heard Jonas
is doing? Why he's missing not only today but also Monday. Well,
I heard System of a Down is doing a couple
of shows in Glendale this weekend and then and then
he might, uh you know, bent the elbow a little
too hard last night. That's a great call, and that's
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you know, he's so he's so careful about like telling
us when he likes to have any fun, you know,
hard hat, lunch pill type of guy. That's how that's
what he likes to say. So normal guy, you know,
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Well DONEQ looking at this this, you know, paying off
the tease we've talked about a moment ago. Yeah, speaking
of there's a new detect. I'm trying not to laugh
at this before I tell you, LeVar. Yeah, but do
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you just want me to go to the sound before
may I even get into this. It's up to you.
But you know, we have a good time with it.
We'll have a good time with it. Okay, here's what
we'll do, Lee, We're gonna go to the sound too
before I even get into this topic. Because there's another
potential buyer, another potential owner that's in the mix. Now
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for the Washington Commanders and uh, well, let's just go
to the Rich Eyes and Show, who were getting this
sound courtesy of I've been having some really great conversations
with this group um led by Josh Harris and having
an opportunity to come in on that ownership group. So
I'm I'm like head over heels excited about that process.
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You know, to be a player for that team. To
not have my career go the way that I wanted
it to or the fans wanted it to U in
that city would be a full circle type of moment
to come back and try to help uh that team,
that organization build the winner that the fans deserve. So
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that's something I'm really excited about. You know, it's nothing
I can announce at this point. It's uh, it's it's
the conversations are happening, and I'm really really excited about
the potential there. That is uh one RG three courtesy
again of The Rich Show. And yeah, apparently uh far
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he's he's gonna be a minority owner of this group,
that Josh Harris group. So what way do you mean
minority minority the sense of he's obviously not the principal
he's obviously the majority or the Yeah. Has nothing to
do with race. That's do with money. So people out
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there understand this. When you have a group of investors, Okay,
we got to explain this for some of the folks
out there. If you are not the guy with the
most money in the deal, you are what's considered a
minority investor. Okay, has nothing to do with race or
any of that stuff. That has to do with the
amount of money you're putting in. And RG three don't
have the type of capital to be considered anything other
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than you know that within this the Josh Harris group.
But the interesting thing to me is that he's now
part of this group as a former player of the
Washington Commanders. Obviously that's not the case of what they're
we're called back when you were playing for him or
he was playing for him, But he's buddied up and
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got close to this group. I mean, LaVar, I'm just
gonna kind of pass the ball to you and let
you take this because I'm curious to get your thoughts
on it. Well, first of all, minority minority contributor would
be probably laughable at best. I mean, he's just not
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I mean he didn't make enough money. He's he's not.
He's not. That's not he doesn't have enough liquidity unless
they're looking at it from the standpoint, Uh put in
a couple million and and be a kind of a
spokesperson for us. But then, now, as a former ridskin
excuse me now, commanders, uh commandos on the show, I
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would que I'm sitting here wondering to myself, if I'm
on an ownership group, is RG three so beloved as
a former Washington player that I would see the value
in him putting in a couple million dollars so that
I could have his brand as a part of our
ownership group. Because I'll say this, Darryl Green is the
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first name that would come to mind if you're doing
it just for for the you know, kind of the
cachet of having a former player that would represent the
interest of the team, that would represent the interest of
the community. There's just as there's a long list of
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guys that I would assume would come long before RG three.
Now that's not to say I'm not I don't want
to take anything or like seem like I'm throwing shade
towards towards RG three. I think he had as fine
a career in the moment that he came into the
league as you could possibly have to put him on
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the road to being, you know, a great for the team.
But I don't que I don't even know that he
goes down in history is one of the greatest rate
Washington football players of all time. I don't know, though.
And he play long enough, and I don't know if
that's a prerequisite in their mind or not. I don't
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know if this is purely born out of a relationship.
I mean, what else, Harris, or what else would it be?
What else? And and And that's the thing that it's
hard to understand sometimes to um, you know what the
purpose is behind it? Because because you brought the best
point you just made was what value does it bring
to an investor group? Like you've got competing bids now right,
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you got the Canadian billionaire, you know, Steve and blah
blah blah blah blah bla blah Opopus you know whatever
its name is blah. Yeah, Um, he's a part of
that mix. People still think Jeff Bezos is gonna make
an offer that could blow those two six billion dollars
offers out of the water, even with the potential that
him and little Danny Snyder aren't you know, he'd like
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that not to be the case. You know, if you
guys willing to pay you a seven billion and everyone
else sitting at six, I'll put our personal differences. Yeah, yeah,
I think I think it's gonna be okay. I think
I'll take your seven bill. So again, the question becomes,
you know, what's the value? What's the value for you're
going to be part of this group. I could pay you,
I could give you a lot less than equity of
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this team to have your services if that's the case, Like,
what's the value? Does he know how to navigate the
politics of DC? No? Does he know how? Does he?
Does he know how to pull in the people that
have played for this team and do the things that
would come along with being that kind of I guess
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front and center focal point if you if you will
to be on the ownership group. I mean, I know
if RG three called me, like, first of all, I'll
be like, why are you calling me? That'd be the
first thing that and I'd already know the reason why
you're calling. But why are you calling me? Right? So?
And how many other alumni would be like, look, young man, like,
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I'm happy for you get an ownership of the team,
but I have absolutely no interest in what you're calling
me for. So before you say one word, good luck
and God bless man, take take care. I hope your
family is doing well. I wish you all the luck
in the world. But man, I got I got other
things to do. Man, I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna push, like,
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have a good one. Let me give you a personal
experience to how I think this most likely came about
a lot of times when putting out of these ownership groups,
you will get an agency that helps kind of get
involved and maybe there'll be some stakeholders of as a
limited partner of that agency, right that that starts to
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becoming and they'll say, hey, we would have put together
a group of athletes who we feel like would be
good people to be a part of this, you know,
kind of as not spokes you know, spokesperson if you will,
but along those lines, you know, I had the opportunity
to invest as a minority owner into an MLS team,
and for me, I just look at it and go, Okay,
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what what's what's the return on you know my income.
What's the ROI Well, there really is none, right, because
you're not looking to kind of sell off that's the key. Yeah,
Well it's part of it, right, Like if you can't
take that equity that you've bought into and at some
point sell it at a higher value, well there's not
that much value unless you just really want to be
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involved with that team, with that sport, with that organization. Right,
I think I passed. There's there's an element of cloud
two with it, right, Like there's an element of like, hey,
I get to walk around the sidelines because I'm I'm
a part owner, you know, I'm I'm a part of this, right.
You know, it's so different than owner to restaurant s
something else. You take over ownership of it, which some
people like that. Some people like being able to say, hey,
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I've got a piece of ownership of this. And so
that's what's enticing probably for RG three or anyone else
who's a part of this. But a lot of times
you'll get an agency that that's actually the one talking
to the ownership group. It's not that's not the player, right.
You know, players don't have much experience at all negotiating
as to like how to get involved at this magnitude
(29:09):
of a sort of deal and what's called tag along
drag along rights. Right, So a lot of times when
you're not like I talked about before, when you're not
the general partner like the GP, the guy who's really
putting in all the capital, or if you're not the
principle of it, right the guy's leading like Josh Harrison
this case, when you're not that guy, there's a thing
(29:29):
called tag along drag along rights, meaning whatever that guy
decides as the owner is what you've got to do. Like,
that's how it works, and so you're just along for
the ride. And a lot of times, you know, that
could be something that Josh Harris might have a completely
different idea of how he wants to run this team.
Sell you know, if guys can sell, but you know
their portion of equity, who he wants to invite in.
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There's a lot more restrictions than you think. So it
ends up being not as good of a deal at
least as an investor, as you'd like it to be,
and ends up being more about all the other things
that come along with that sort of ownership. Yeah, I
just think that it's just in all of the education
of how it works. Financially speaking, I'll just say this,
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if he does have an opportunity to get into a
minority share opportunity with this team, you know, good for him.
You know, good for him. And if he has an
idea and a strategy as to how he's going to
leverage it, good for him. That's what I would say
first and foremost. And you know what, you know, people
(30:32):
make things happen all the time. Sometimes you move in silence.
They say what killers moving? Silence and violence? You know,
and to kind of keep it to yourself until you
get it done. I wonder coming out and speaking on it,
like are you just clout chasing or were you really
trying to get in on this? And if you're put
(30:53):
if it's a six billion dollar purchase or more that
that takes place, how much how much do you have
to come up with cash to be able to get
that that that deal? Right? That's it. It's a great
it's a great point, great question. I mean, um, you
know Lee was was giving me some of the numbers
(31:14):
from the stats, right, so you know RG three made
thirty three million. I think his career in the NFL
UM and so you'd assume, like, you know, sixteen and
a half millions what you have after taxes. You'd assume
he's he's you know, hopefully invested well Bob well that
sort of thing, and he's got at least that, and
then you you know, would tack on whatever he's making
and broadcasting, which the hard thing with broadcasting is none
(31:34):
of the numbers are you know, legitimate, right, um, because
you can't go back and necessarily see what that what
exactly those numbers are. There's numbers that are floated out there.
Let's just say but let's just say he's making I
don't know, let's just say he's making eight hundred to
a million dollars. Hell, let's just say he's making a
million dollars. Makes it even so, we're not enough money? Man,
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that's enough? Look it, if you ask me, that's that's
the thing is. You know, he's gonna have to put
in us a substantial portion of what he's worth. He
would have to give up all his money. He would
have to give he would have to give all his money.
I mean, actually, I don't even know that that's enough.
We're talking about six billion dollars what like, it's a
(32:21):
valid point. And look, call my people at rack all right,
look look right at rat rat to call by people
at rat mad like due to financial service that we're
offering on our show bad, that would be a better idea.
So here's the thing. I'll say that I am a
little bit surprised of all the people it is RG
three as opposed to other Washington like yourself, right, yeah,
(32:44):
I like yourself trying to do that or Darryl Green,
as you'd point out. I'm just saying like there's other
legends that that could be involved in all this, but
it's connected. I'm disconnected from from that organization. And and
you know, I love the city. I always always tell
people I love to see I love the fans. I
wish I wish them the best. I really do. They
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really deserve that cue. But that's just not you know,
for me. One of my hard lessons is don't get
involved in things that you don't learn from the ground up.
You know, I just don't. I just have no interest
in placing my dollars into something that I know absolutely
nothing about. And it's like, well you play you know
all about it, Like, yeah, no, I'm not going to
(33:29):
do that because now I understand the value of the dollar,
and I've worked way too hard to build what I
built and get what I got. If I don't understand it,
from getting gum off the bottom of a table to
putting lines on the field, I don't want to do it.
And for what it's worth, I don't have the energy
or the time to want to do all of that
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to learn the business well enough where I put my
money into it. So good luck to whoever does it,
and God bless. I mean, it's a great investment if
you can get a significant can amount because it's something
that you can leave for your family. It's a generational
thing if it works out. But that's it's just not
something that interests me. Well that's fine, but it doesn't
change the fact that you still are a legend there
(34:11):
in Washington. And speaking of legends, by the way, let's
go to a sand Pedro legend. How about see what's
trending with Eddie Garcia. Eddie. Hey, guys, how's up right? Good?
We had an opening day in Major League Baseball? Yeah
we did. In addition to security, yeah, security guards, you're
dropping bombs on fans who run on the field. But
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uh wow, yeah, it was every game in the major
leagues are in the every team in the major leagues.
It was in action yesterday. We'll run through it as
fast as we can here with the Yankee shutting out
the Giants five nothing, Garrett Cole and three relievers combining
on the four it shutout, and Aaron Judge in his
first time under the season solo shot of the first
ending four New York. The Cubs blank the Brewers for nothing.
It was and Twins shutting out the Royals to zip
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Rays take down the Tigers four nothing. It was the
Mariners over the Guardians for nothing as well. White Sox
score two in the ninth to beat the defending World
Series champion Astros in their home opener in the Houston
three two is the final. Mets down the Marlins five three.
Max Suers are getting the win for New York. Show
Hey Otani tossed six shutout innings he struck out ten,
but the Angels lose to the A's two to one.
Otani gets a no decision. Dodgers to beat the Diamondbacks
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eight to two. Was the Braves over the National seven two,
but Atlanta starter Max Freed left the game of a
hamstring injury. They'll say he's going to miss at least
one start. The Orioles down the Red Sox ten to nine.
Baltimore catcher ad Lee Rushman five for five at home
run in four Urbi Rockies beat the Padres seven two.
Blue Jays outscore the Cardinals ten to nine, Rangers beat
the Phillies eleven and seven, and the Pirates down the
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Reds five to two. Just two games in the NBA,
but a showdown between the top two teams in the
East and in the NBA, and it turned out to
be a laugher as the Celtics crushed the Bucks in
Milwaukee one forty to ninety nine. Jason Tatum forty points
for Boston. Pelicans beat the Nuggets in Denver one oh
seven to eighty eight Denver starting to Kolok did not
play in this one. In the NHL, the Bruins beat
the Blue Jackets two one and overtime, Boston clinching the
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President's Trophy. They'll have the best record for this season.
That'll get my home misadvantage throughout the playoffs as long
as they're in there. And the Penguins shut out the
Predators to nothing. That Nashville loss has clinched the playoff
spot for the Vegas Golden Knights. Now back to LaVar
Arrington and Brady Quinn and the Tirerac dot Com Fox
Sports Radio Studios. Thanks Eddie, as always, I can't believe
you were able to get through all that in a
little amount of time that we had, but without much time,
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be in his in his crosshairs? According to Duma, another
celebrity website, there's a A List celebrity, A List actress
dating an a list NFL athlete. They wouldn't say who. Well,
people are speculating putting those together that Reese Witherspoon just
announced her divorce after an eleven year marriage, and that
she and Tom Brady might be the next A List
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couple out. Tom Brady and Reese Witherspoon they're close in
age legally blah and tom Brady. She's a big she's
a big hitter man. I mean, this could be our
next rom com, could it not? No? No, Reese Witherspen
Tom Brady movie Easy. He is dipping his toes in
the movie. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, come on far
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on board for that tom Brady. I mean, I'm not
in on this. Nope, I'm not. No, She's she's a
she's a big hitter man. That would that would that
would if he's why he don't need the cloud chase.
He's Tom Brady. Mm, but I don't know. You know,
you Hollywood people though, man, y'all do things a little
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differently man like that that matters. I mean, Riese Witherspent
does seem very sweet, like I have no idea, I've
never met her. I'm just saying she seems like a sweetheart.
You know, I'm not trying to be if I'm new.
Come on, Berto, all right, if you had the opportunity,
you're gonna do it burto If you're Tom Brady, that's
what you're gonna do. That's where you're going with it. No,
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probably not okay, exactly, I go to the Bunny Ranch.
She's well, I mean you're gonna beat Jimmy g two.
You're gonna have some competition there, now. Huh. That's right.
He's gotta let him. Don't think you're gonna make that
comment and just walk off, just right scall out, bro
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just risk it all. I mean, well, you're not really
risking anything. I mean, I mean, maybe you come up
with a couple of baby mamas. That would be the room.
You know, well, coming up after this, we'll tell you
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buying should be. You know a farm a long time
ago in Thousand Oaks, California. There is a young, slender
built man who wanted to get big you wanted to
get stronger, and he thought, man, I wish I could
go out there and play football one day. So he
got in the weight room and he lifted and he
lived hard, lifted, and he was told he couldn't do it.
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He was told his arms are too small, his calves
were too small, too small. And guess what what happened?
One day after all that hard work, he still realized
that his casts were too small. But that's not going
to take us away from big a football Friday, right, alright, alright, alright,
come on, come on, j all Friday, little cash, It's
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okay to keep playing snocks. You know. Oh that's just
you and me. I know there's a lot of people
wondering where Jonas is the guy. He's probably in trouble.
You know, he never takes the day off. He's actually
those calves that he's always been trying to perfect. He's
getting calf surgery today. He's getting the calfine plants put in. Fortunately,
(02:19):
couldn't do the show. He's having surgery early this morning,
so we wish him the best. We hope the caffine
plants go well. And uh, you know he comes out
the way he's hoping he's gonna look right, rumors, are
you got a duy? That's that's the thing. No, no
cafine plants, just all caffine plants. But why is it
always the first thing out of the gate when somebody
(02:43):
misses the show or isn't on the show? What's wrong?
What happened? Did he get fired? Did he quit? Did
he leave? He hates you? Guys? Like what happened? Like?
Why is that always the first conclusion people go to?
It's like, are we really classically conditioned to be that
negative about things? Yes? We all are. Yes, I think
our society has become that now. Instead of being like
(03:05):
hopeful and wishing well, we just always think about the bad.
And maybe that has something to do with the news.
The news is mostly negative, right, Twitter, very negative. I
mean it seems like everywhere we look, it's it's a
lot of negativity. Yeah, but again, we wish Jonas well.
He's he's obviously getting the caffine plants put in this morning.
Hopefully he'll look the way he'd liked him. That Good
(03:27):
luck Jonas, You're good luck Jonas. But you know one
thing I can guarantee you. And speaking of guaranteed, By
the way, there is a you know NFL quarterback who's
who's He's not looking for the biggest contract all right
in NFL history. He's not saying he wants it fully guaranteed.
He just wants more guaranteed money than the Shawn Watson got.
(03:48):
And that's Lamar Jackson. That I hate to start off
today's show talking about a subject that I know you're
tired of, LaVar ye fatigued, but it keeps giving us
more content to discuss. And I'd love to pick your
brain about this in regards to he doesn't want to
be again that the fully guaranteed contract and all that,
(04:09):
but he just he wants to have the most guaranteed
money ever put in a contract. Apparently, do you not
see like the disconnect right now with Lamar and understanding reality.
It does seem like there is a a failure to
understand the magnitude the gravity of the situation that he's in.
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That's what I would say, that's it's not going to happen.
It's it's just it's not going to happen. So now,
the question to me, when I when I read this,
it became to me, at what cost, Like what is
he costing himself. And because again we always make it
(04:52):
a point to throw this out there, I am pro player.
I am pro player because pro players have very very
short shelf life. Whereas owners, they own, like they have
their franchise, it's their business, and you know, you you,
you know they're going to be able to pull through
and they're gonna have players over and over and over again.
(05:13):
So I'm like, and I was a player, so I'm
pro player. I would love to have a conversation with
Lamar Jackson because maybe I'm missing maybe I'm missing something,
you know, maybe there's there's something here, there's a perspective
that I'm not I'm not seeing. I'm not understanding why
why he's approaching this the way that it's being approached.
(05:38):
It was interesting Dion came out and was in support
of Lamar and you know, basically said to stand stand
your ground and stand for what you believe in and
different things like that. But Q, I'm sitting here thinking
to myself, when the market has spoken, it's spoken, you're
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not even like for me, You're not even in a
negotiation situation right now. It's just kind of like your
your numbers are too outrageous. We don't want to pay it.
We're not going to pay it. We put you as
an unrestricted UH You're you're not protected, non exclusive, You're
a you're not a protected uh franchise tag player, which
(06:21):
means we're telling you we respect you enough to say,
you know what, test the market right like, if what
we're telling you is incorrect, then then you should be
able to get that contract from someone else and no
one is touching the situation. At some point, you've got
to decide do I want to play and make money
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or if I ride out this this horse, this one
right here, to try to win the race. Where is
that going to leave me? I have no I have
the slightest idea where I think he's going to have
to end up playing on this contract, this this this
franchise tag. They're not going to get a deal done. Like,
they're not going to get a deal done. That's what
(07:04):
it sounds like to me. So, I mean, it sounds
like it'd be difficult to get a deal done. If
you already turned down a three year, fully guaranteed deal,
that's one hundred and thirty three million that would have been,
by the way, the second most next to the Shaan
Watson at signing and I can understand Lamar's perspective if
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he says, I've won an MVP, I've been really successful.
I do hate everyone toss around the win loss stat
right of forty five wins and sixteen losses in the
regular season. The most damning stat we talked about this,
touched about this earlier this week is in the playoffs.
He's got a playoff win, but that's it. Yeah, he
hasn't been great in the playoffs. In fact, he's been
(07:46):
a completely different player once they've gotten to the playoffs.
And so maybe there's a sense of like, have we
hit the ceiling of what we're capable of with Lamar Jackson. Yeah,
we can win regular season games, we get in the playoffs,
but we can't get much further because everyone wants to
blame the Baltimore Ravens. Look when Joe Flacco was there, Okay,
(08:08):
Joe Flacco's win percentage was close to six hundred during
the course of the regular season. In fact, if you
look at the first four or five seasons that he
was there starting quarterback, he had a hell of a
win loss record, very similar to Lamar. And so when
you start comparing the two, especially like the first four
or five years, you kind of go, well, this has
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been the Baltimore Ravens, like until the last couple of
years that kind of trailed off where they needed to
make the transition from Joe Flacco to Lamar. You know,
this organization has been successful. And I said, yes, this yesterday.
Since they came to Baltimore, they've been a successful organization.
So spare me the win loss record. That's just that's
just facts. It's not an opinion, like they've just been
(08:51):
a good organization since they've gotten to Baltimore and become
the Ravens. And so you could spout out the win
loss record, but that that's meaningless. Every player should be
looking at that, going so what we didn't you include
the defense, and that you do include the running back.
Mark Andrews has been one of the better tight ends.
I mean, it's a team effort. So when you start
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breaking down the stats and looking at the passing stats
and looking at maybe a little regression from him playing
from the pocket, and that's always been part of it,
you know, you can see where there's been some hesitancy
of hey, how far can he take us? How much
more canny developed or is this player going to become
a player that we have to change our entire roster
on offense to make it help him and match him.
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We have to change our entire scheme and system offensively
as far as what we want to do to make
it work. Oh and then on top of that, he
wants over two hundred and thirty total guaranteed at signing.
I mean, it's a big ask. I think it's more
than people realize. And you've already been when you've already
been offered one hundred and thirty three million, which is
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the second most I would have ever been signed, you know,
at signing at least, and even if I was a
part of a five year deal, that's a significant chunk
of guaranteed money for a player who hasn't finished the
last two seasons. Let me, I think I'll ask you this.
If he has an agent, is he signed to a
long term deal? By now? All right? That's so funny, Okay,
so you won't to take my question and flip it
(10:17):
on meat, I'm wondering the same. Like to me, it's
a no, you don't think so. I think I think
he's got a long term deal, and I think it
was done a year ago. I think he has a
long term deal, and I think it's probably done before now.
I believe that. But where we are, where we are
right now, if he were to get an agent, does
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he get now? I mean it feels like he's dug
his feet in and it's pride now any ego. If
it feels like now, it's tough because Baltimore has played
this for a player who doesn't have an agent or
whoever is helping him, whether it's the NFLP or whatever else,
they're obviously not able to communicate to him, like this
is the market value? You know, we've talked about this right,
(10:59):
Like you go to sell your home. You put all
this money in your home. Your home is the best
looking home in the neighborhood. You think it should be
worth X you put on the market. Guess what interest
rates are high? Right now? That you know there's a
big inventory of homes that are out there for sale
too in the neighborhood. People get other options. Your home
is not as worth as much as you think. Market
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value is not what we think someone is worth based
on their stats, based on their achievements, based on it's
what someone's willing to pay. And right now we don't
have another suitor that's willing to pay for Lamar Jackson's
services what he wants and even furthermore anything at the moment,
as well as give up two first round picks. What
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about when people say, well, he's the next one up,
which he is the next one up. I mean, if
you're talking about franchise quarterbacks to get their contracts done,
he's the next guy up. So then what do you
say to that thought process, he's a quarterback, he's the
next guy up. There was a lot of conversation around
Dak Prescott when he was trying to get his contract
(12:02):
and it took two years, like he got to injury.
They still ended up giving him the contract after it
dragging out a really really long time. What what do
you say to the thought process that he's one of
a handful of franchise quarterbacks in the National Football League
and he's the next one up, so he should be
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in the running for that type of contract. What do
you say to that? My response to that would be
he should be. But if he's looking at Deshaun Watson's contract,
that's just it's not gonna it's not gonna be their
for him. It's an outlier, you know, very similar to
the Kirk Cousins deal. No one else followed suit in
signing of a fully guaranteed deal. And that's not even
(12:46):
for just quarterbacks, you know, as Richard Sherman blamed, you know,
Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes for their deals. No one
else has followed suit. And and that's the progative. There's
nothing wrong with that, right when you when you come
to an agreement with a you know, a team on
a contract, you better feel good about it. However long
it takes you and whatever negotiations, you got to feel
good about it. And that's the one thing about this
(13:07):
for Lamar where it's like, all right, dude, if you
don't feel good about what's being offered you, they don't
sign a long term deal. But you also can't complain
about then having the non exclusive franchise tag placed on
you and not even making the forty five million you
would have made if it was an exclusive franchise tag.
Like throughout this entire negotiation process, you just left thirteen
(13:28):
million on the table because of how difficult things have
become between you and the organization or you and your representatives,
whoever that is, and things have only gotten harder, I think,
to get that offer if you will, if he's next up,
because you've got some of their guy who's potentially going
to get teams fined fifty thousand dollars if they've even
talked to him. I mean, that's my response is if
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you want to have that next deal and be the
next one up, be professional about it. Either find the
right representation that's an attorney and certified by the NFLPA,
or an that's certified by the NFLPA, or talk to
the NFLPA and say, okay, you know what's your advice
at this point, because I can promise you this. The
NFLPA can't be sitting there with their hands are sitting
(14:13):
on their hands going we're okay with him giving up
a nine figure contract over one hundreds of millions guaranteed,
and we're okay with him passing up on that. Yeah,
because it's impacting more than him, and that's what the
NFLPA has taken the consideration. This is impacting other quarterbacks,
This is impacting the market, because that's how it works. Right.
(14:33):
If you get one guy that doesn't handle it the
right way. You get one situation, one situation that isn't
handled the right way. That in theory, if I'm the NFLPA,
that's impacting the market for all the other players as well.
So now it becomes that is now a point of
reference right as we're moving forward, whether whether it's handled
(14:55):
you know which, it will be handled differently by the
other quarterbacks that that end up coming up for their contracts.
But with that being said, this is still a market
play and people have to understand that as well. That's
at stake right now as well. The negotiation impacts the
market of the other quarterbacks that are going to do
their contracts. I mean, is that inaccurate or is that?
(15:16):
Is that safe to say that that's that's correct, and
that would be what I think, that's what the nfl
PA would be thinking outside of just the welfare and
well being of Lamar Jackson getting a deal done. Yeah, no,
I mean there's no doubt it. Obviously everything plays hand
in hand and without effects. One of the problem is is,
you know, the risk involved. The players are all different, right,
(15:37):
I mean, with with someone like Joe Burrow, he's got injury,
you know, risk there's there's been injuries in the past,
you know where you've got to take that into account
of here Cincinnati and Joe Burrow doesn't want to hear
that because that he's gonna say his style of play
doesn't put himself at risk. I mean, Josh Allen doesn't
have an injury history really, and yet he plays a
style that you think the Buffalo Bills, you know, and
(15:58):
the next time he wants to redo a contract that
would be a concern. So you know the thing with
Lamar is and everyone's been pointing out, oh, he got
hurt in the pocket. Okay, folks, we get it. His
style of play though, is conduce if' getting hurt outside
the pocket. You watch enough football, you see it enough,
you come to that realization that the way he plays,
eventually he will have a soft tissue injury that keeps
(16:20):
him out. He will get hurt. Like it's just a
matter of fact. It's it's it's a matter of watching
the game of football and not acting like, oh, we
haven't seen someone do this before. Yeah, you know, go
back through the Michael Vickiers, go back through anyone else.
Do you want to point to you that had that
sort of athleticism, they eventually get hurt. I mean, what's
the first thing they say to us is, rookies, when
you get in there, it's not it's not if it's
(16:43):
when it's one hundred percent injury, right, Eventually you're going
to get hurt. You're gonna miss time. And that's obviously
part of it. So you know, I look at it.
I look at it, LaVar, and I'd say, yeah, he's
the next one up. But also within that, if you're
gauging everything off the Deshaun Watson contract, you're gonna you're
gonna have a hard time ultimately, you know, according to
(17:04):
that value, because the scenario that's there for you, there's
not three teams, four teams, however many it was bidding,
you know, for Lamar Jackson like there was Deshaun Watson. Yeah,
it's just a it's a different scenario and it may
be a tough pill to swallow ultimately, but you know, LaVar,
there's another tough pill that swell that's coming out next.
On Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Live from
(17:27):
the ti iraq dot com Studios, We've got another potential bidder,
another potential buyer, if you will, for the one Washington Commandos,
the command You don't want to hear who this is
gonna be, and there might be some fireworks on the
other side of this break. Stick around here with us
on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Be sure
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of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington, and Jonas Knox
(17:50):
weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Berto Plants of
the Jams today. I feel like he's doing this because
join assistn't here. I'm not sure there's some battle going
on behind the scenes. But you jacked up for the weekend.
Huh yeah, it's gold baby, Yeah, get drunk tomorrow. Dodgers
(18:11):
damn yeah. Speaking of Dodgers, stay well, we gotta do station.
You go, we gotta We're good, go ahead. Did you
see the dude proposed to his chicken the outfield? Yeah? Yeah,
get obliterated. Oh no, yeah, he got. He got speared
like like Goldberg, like that Goldberg steer. Yeah. Music would
(18:34):
fit the highlight of help getting knocked that dude man,
the security took him down. Good. Yeah. And then and
then the ring went flying, So I don't even know
if he got the ring. They got the ring back.
God man, you know, so I don't know how that works.
I mean, if you lose personal property when you're trespassing
exactly exactly, who knows. I'm not sure. It's a good question.
(18:57):
We have to call up. I feel like that's a
question for Albert Breer, like that is that is a
great question. Yes, you're listening to two pros and a
cup of Joe. I'm Brady Quinn. That's LaVar Arrington Jonas.
Jonas couldnt be here today and unfortunately Lee our executive
producer and lead the lap If you couldn't mind, what
was it? What was it that you heard? Because he
(19:17):
had told me caffine plants he was having surgery for
that this morning. What was it that you heard Jonas
is doing? Why he's missing not only today but also Monday. Well,
I heard System of a Down is doing a couple
of shows in Glendale this weekend and then and then
he might, uh you know, bent the elbow a little
too hard last night. That's a great call, and that's
(19:39):
you know, he's so he's so careful about like telling
us when he likes to have any fun, you know,
hard hat, lunch pill type of guy. That's how that's
what he likes to say. So normal guy, you know,
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Well DONEQ looking at this this, you know, paying off
the tease we've talked about a moment ago. Yeah, speaking
of there's a new detect. I'm trying not to laugh
at this before I tell you, LeVar. Yeah, but do
(20:22):
you just want me to go to the sound before
may I even get into this. It's up to you.
But you know, we have a good time with it.
We'll have a good time with it. Okay, here's what
we'll do, Lee, We're gonna go to the sound too
before I even get into this topic. Because there's another
potential buyer, another potential owner that's in the mix. Now
(20:42):
for the Washington Commanders and uh, well, let's just go
to the Rich Eyes and Show, who were getting this
sound courtesy of I've been having some really great conversations
with this group um led by Josh Harris and having
an opportunity to come in on that ownership group. So
I'm I'm like head over heels excited about that process.
(21:04):
You know, to be a player for that team. To
not have my career go the way that I wanted
it to or the fans wanted it to U in
that city would be a full circle type of moment
to come back and try to help uh that team,
that organization build the winner that the fans deserve. So
(21:25):
that's something I'm really excited about. You know, it's nothing
I can announce at this point. It's uh, it's it's
the conversations are happening, and I'm really really excited about
the potential there. That is uh one RG three courtesy
again of The Rich Show. And yeah, apparently uh far
(21:46):
he's he's gonna be a minority owner of this group,
that Josh Harris group. So what way do you mean
minority minority the sense of he's obviously not the principal
he's obviously the majority or the Yeah. Has nothing to
do with race. That's do with money. So people out
(22:06):
there understand this. When you have a group of investors, Okay,
we got to explain this for some of the folks
out there. If you are not the guy with the
most money in the deal, you are what's considered a
minority investor. Okay, has nothing to do with race or
any of that stuff. That has to do with the
amount of money you're putting in. And RG three don't
have the type of capital to be considered anything other
(22:28):
than you know that within this the Josh Harris group.
But the interesting thing to me is that he's now
part of this group as a former player of the
Washington Commanders. Obviously that's not the case of what they're
we're called back when you were playing for him or
he was playing for him, But he's buddied up and
(22:49):
got close to this group. I mean, LaVar, I'm just
gonna kind of pass the ball to you and let
you take this because I'm curious to get your thoughts
on it. Well, first of all, minority minority contributor would
be probably laughable at best. I mean, he's just not
(23:13):
I mean he didn't make enough money. He's he's not.
He's not. That's not he doesn't have enough liquidity unless
they're looking at it from the standpoint, Uh put in
a couple million and and be a kind of a
spokesperson for us. But then, now, as a former ridskin
excuse me now, commanders, uh commandos on the show, I
(23:37):
would que I'm sitting here wondering to myself, if I'm
on an ownership group, is RG three so beloved as
a former Washington player that I would see the value
in him putting in a couple million dollars so that
I could have his brand as a part of our
ownership group. Because I'll say this, Darryl Green is the
(24:00):
first name that would come to mind if you're doing
it just for for the you know, kind of the
cachet of having a former player that would represent the
interest of the team, that would represent the interest of
the community. There's just as there's a long list of
(24:23):
guys that I would assume would come long before RG three.
Now that's not to say I'm not I don't want
to take anything or like seem like I'm throwing shade
towards towards RG three. I think he had as fine
a career in the moment that he came into the
league as you could possibly have to put him on
(24:46):
the road to being, you know, a great for the team.
But I don't que I don't even know that he
goes down in history is one of the greatest rate
Washington football players of all time. I don't know, though.
And he play long enough, and I don't know if
that's a prerequisite in their mind or not. I don't
(25:06):
know if this is purely born out of a relationship.
I mean, what else, Harris, or what else would it be?
What else? And and And that's the thing that it's
hard to understand sometimes to um, you know what the
purpose is behind it? Because because you brought the best
point you just made was what value does it bring
to an investor group? Like you've got competing bids now right,
(25:27):
you got the Canadian billionaire, you know, Steve and blah
blah blah blah blah bla blah Opopus you know whatever
its name is blah. Yeah, Um, he's a part of
that mix. People still think Jeff Bezos is gonna make
an offer that could blow those two six billion dollars
offers out of the water, even with the potential that
him and little Danny Snyder aren't you know, he'd like
(25:49):
that not to be the case. You know, if you
guys willing to pay you a seven billion and everyone
else sitting at six, I'll put our personal differences. Yeah, yeah,
I think I think it's gonna be okay. I think
I'll take your seven bill. So again, the question becomes,
you know, what's the value? What's the value for you're
going to be part of this group. I could pay you,
I could give you a lot less than equity of
(26:11):
this team to have your services if that's the case, Like,
what's the value? Does he know how to navigate the
politics of DC? No? Does he know how? Does he?
Does he know how to pull in the people that
have played for this team and do the things that
would come along with being that kind of I guess
(26:35):
front and center focal point if you if you will
to be on the ownership group. I mean, I know
if RG three called me, like, first of all, I'll
be like, why are you calling me? That'd be the
first thing that and I'd already know the reason why
you're calling. But why are you calling me? Right? So?
And how many other alumni would be like, look, young man, like,
(27:01):
I'm happy for you get an ownership of the team,
but I have absolutely no interest in what you're calling
me for. So before you say one word, good luck
and God bless man, take take care. I hope your
family is doing well. I wish you all the luck
in the world. But man, I got I got other
things to do. Man, I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna push, like,
(27:22):
have a good one. Let me give you a personal
experience to how I think this most likely came about
a lot of times when putting out of these ownership groups,
you will get an agency that helps kind of get
involved and maybe there'll be some stakeholders of as a
limited partner of that agency, right that that starts to
(27:43):
becoming and they'll say, hey, we would have put together
a group of athletes who we feel like would be
good people to be a part of this, you know,
kind of as not spokes you know, spokesperson if you will,
but along those lines, you know, I had the opportunity
to invest as a minority owner into an MLS team,
and for me, I just look at it and go, Okay,
(28:04):
what what's what's the return on you know my income.
What's the ROI Well, there really is none, right, because
you're not looking to kind of sell off that's the key. Yeah,
Well it's part of it, right, Like if you can't
take that equity that you've bought into and at some
point sell it at a higher value, well there's not
that much value unless you just really want to be
(28:25):
involved with that team, with that sport, with that organization. Right,
I think I passed. There's there's an element of cloud
two with it, right, Like there's an element of like, hey,
I get to walk around the sidelines because I'm I'm
a part owner, you know, I'm I'm a part of this, right.
You know, it's so different than owner to restaurant s
something else. You take over ownership of it, which some
people like that. Some people like being able to say, hey,
(28:47):
I've got a piece of ownership of this. And so
that's what's enticing probably for RG three or anyone else
who's a part of this. But a lot of times
you'll get an agency that that's actually the one talking
to the ownership group. It's not that's not the player, right.
You know, players don't have much experience at all negotiating
as to like how to get involved at this magnitude
(29:09):
of a sort of deal and what's called tag along
drag along rights. Right, So a lot of times when
you're not like I talked about before, when you're not
the general partner like the GP, the guy who's really
putting in all the capital, or if you're not the
principle of it, right the guy's leading like Josh Harrison
this case, when you're not that guy, there's a thing
(29:29):
called tag along drag along rights, meaning whatever that guy
decides as the owner is what you've got to do. Like,
that's how it works, and so you're just along for
the ride. And a lot of times, you know, that
could be something that Josh Harris might have a completely
different idea of how he wants to run this team.
Sell you know, if guys can sell, but you know
their portion of equity, who he wants to invite in.
(29:50):
There's a lot more restrictions than you think. So it
ends up being not as good of a deal at
least as an investor, as you'd like it to be,
and ends up being more about all the other things
that come along with that sort of ownership. Yeah, I
just think that it's just in all of the education
of how it works. Financially speaking, I'll just say this,
(30:11):
if he does have an opportunity to get into a
minority share opportunity with this team, you know, good for him.
You know, good for him. And if he has an
idea and a strategy as to how he's going to
leverage it, good for him. That's what I would say
first and foremost. And you know what, you know, people
(30:32):
make things happen all the time. Sometimes you move in silence.
They say what killers moving? Silence and violence? You know,
and to kind of keep it to yourself until you
get it done. I wonder coming out and speaking on it,
like are you just clout chasing or were you really
trying to get in on this? And if you're put
(30:53):
if it's a six billion dollar purchase or more that
that takes place, how much how much do you have
to come up with cash to be able to get
that that that deal? Right? That's it. It's a great
it's a great point, great question. I mean, um, you
know Lee was was giving me some of the numbers
(31:14):
from the stats, right, so you know RG three made
thirty three million. I think his career in the NFL
UM and so you'd assume, like, you know, sixteen and
a half millions what you have after taxes. You'd assume
he's he's you know, hopefully invested well Bob well that
sort of thing, and he's got at least that, and
then you you know, would tack on whatever he's making
and broadcasting, which the hard thing with broadcasting is none
(31:34):
of the numbers are you know, legitimate, right, um, because
you can't go back and necessarily see what that what
exactly those numbers are. There's numbers that are floated out there.
Let's just say but let's just say he's making I
don't know, let's just say he's making eight hundred to
a million dollars. Hell, let's just say he's making a
million dollars. Makes it even so, we're not enough money? Man,
(31:58):
that's enough? Look it, if you ask me, that's that's
the thing is. You know, he's gonna have to put
in us a substantial portion of what he's worth. He
would have to give up all his money. He would
have to give he would have to give all his money.
I mean, actually, I don't even know that that's enough.
We're talking about six billion dollars what like, it's a
(32:21):
valid point. And look, call my people at rack all right,
look look right at rat rat to call by people
at rat mad like due to financial service that we're
offering on our show bad, that would be a better idea.
So here's the thing. I'll say that I am a
little bit surprised of all the people it is RG
three as opposed to other Washington like yourself, right, yeah,
(32:44):
I like yourself trying to do that or Darryl Green,
as you'd point out. I'm just saying like there's other
legends that that could be involved in all this, but
it's connected. I'm disconnected from from that organization. And and
you know, I love the city. I always always tell
people I love to see I love the fans. I
wish I wish them the best. I really do. They
(33:05):
really deserve that cue. But that's just not you know,
for me. One of my hard lessons is don't get
involved in things that you don't learn from the ground up.
You know, I just don't. I just have no interest
in placing my dollars into something that I know absolutely
nothing about. And it's like, well you play you know
all about it, Like, yeah, no, I'm not going to
(33:29):
do that because now I understand the value of the dollar,
and I've worked way too hard to build what I
built and get what I got. If I don't understand it,
from getting gum off the bottom of a table to
putting lines on the field, I don't want to do it.
And for what it's worth, I don't have the energy
or the time to want to do all of that
(33:50):
to learn the business well enough where I put my
money into it. So good luck to whoever does it,
and God bless. I mean, it's a great investment if
you can get a significant can amount because it's something
that you can leave for your family. It's a generational
thing if it works out. But that's it's just not
something that interests me. Well that's fine, but it doesn't
change the fact that you still are a legend there
(34:11):
in Washington. And speaking of legends, by the way, let's
go to a sand Pedro legend. How about see what's
trending with Eddie Garcia. Eddie. Hey, guys, how's up right? Good?
We had an opening day in Major League Baseball? Yeah
we did. In addition to security, yeah, security guards, you're
dropping bombs on fans who run on the field. But
(34:33):
uh wow, yeah, it was every game in the major
leagues are in the every team in the major leagues.
It was in action yesterday. We'll run through it as
fast as we can here with the Yankee shutting out
the Giants five nothing, Garrett Cole and three relievers combining
on the four it shutout, and Aaron Judge in his
first time under the season solo shot of the first
ending four New York. The Cubs blank the Brewers for nothing.
It was and Twins shutting out the Royals to zip
(34:54):
Rays take down the Tigers four nothing. It was the
Mariners over the Guardians for nothing as well. White Sox
score two in the ninth to beat the defending World
Series champion Astros in their home opener in the Houston
three two is the final. Mets down the Marlins five three.
Max Suers are getting the win for New York. Show
Hey Otani tossed six shutout innings he struck out ten,
but the Angels lose to the A's two to one.
Otani gets a no decision. Dodgers to beat the Diamondbacks
(35:16):
eight to two. Was the Braves over the National seven two,
but Atlanta starter Max Freed left the game of a
hamstring injury. They'll say he's going to miss at least
one start. The Orioles down the Red Sox ten to nine.
Baltimore catcher ad Lee Rushman five for five at home
run in four Urbi Rockies beat the Padres seven two.
Blue Jays outscore the Cardinals ten to nine, Rangers beat
the Phillies eleven and seven, and the Pirates down the
(35:36):
Reds five to two. Just two games in the NBA,
but a showdown between the top two teams in the
East and in the NBA, and it turned out to
be a laugher as the Celtics crushed the Bucks in
Milwaukee one forty to ninety nine. Jason Tatum forty points
for Boston. Pelicans beat the Nuggets in Denver one oh
seven to eighty eight Denver starting to Kolok did not
play in this one. In the NHL, the Bruins beat
the Blue Jackets two one and overtime, Boston clinching the
(35:58):
President's Trophy. They'll have the best record for this season.
That'll get my home misadvantage throughout the playoffs as long
as they're in there. And the Penguins shut out the
Predators to nothing. That Nashville loss has clinched the playoff
spot for the Vegas Golden Knights. Now back to LaVar
Arrington and Brady Quinn and the Tirerac dot Com Fox
Sports Radio Studios. Thanks Eddie, as always, I can't believe
you were able to get through all that in a
little amount of time that we had, but without much time,
(36:20):
without further ado, we've got to get to encased you
missed it coming up here after the break and let
me just tease this as we come to you live
from the ti irac dot Com Studios. Okay, he's a goat,
all right, this person is the goat, and you're gonna
go absolutely wild. Your mind will be blown when you
hear what we're gonna talk about. Coming up next, be
(36:41):
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Well you don't know is for my entire life. I
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in the first hour, and there's no one better to
do that than our executive producer, Lee Delap. Sometimes you
can't get to everything in the world of sports or entertainment,
the guys are here to bring you in case you
missed it, Ailey, what do you got for us, brother Fellas?
(38:08):
In case more than Fellas, Hey, LaVar, I almost did
call you Joe and Lappy. That's Lappy Fellas. In case
you missed this, Page six is reporting that Tom Brady
is apparently out and about out dating again, which it
has a lot of people speculating for him. Who could
(38:30):
be in his in his crosshairs? According to Duma, another
celebrity website, there's a A List celebrity, A List actress
dating an a list NFL athlete. They wouldn't say who. Well,
people are speculating putting those together that Reese Witherspoon just
announced her divorce after an eleven year marriage, and that
she and Tom Brady might be the next A List
(38:53):
couple out. Tom Brady and Reese Witherspoon they're close in
age legally blah and tom Brady. She's a big she's
a big hitter man. I mean, this could be our
next rom com, could it not? No? No, Reese Witherspen
Tom Brady movie Easy. He is dipping his toes in
the movie. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, come on far
(39:14):
on board for that tom Brady. I mean, I'm not
in on this. Nope, I'm not. No, She's she's a
she's a big hitter man. That would that would that
would if he's why he don't need the cloud chase.
He's Tom Brady. Mm, but I don't know. You know,
you Hollywood people though, man, y'all do things a little
(39:35):
differently man like that that matters. I mean, Riese Witherspent
does seem very sweet, like I have no idea, I've
never met her. I'm just saying she seems like a sweetheart.
You know, I'm not trying to be if I'm new.
Come on, Berto, all right, if you had the opportunity,
you're gonna do it burto If you're Tom Brady, that's
what you're gonna do. That's where you're going with it. No,
(39:55):
probably not okay, exactly, I go to the Bunny Ranch.
She's well, I mean you're gonna beat Jimmy g two.
You're gonna have some competition there, now. Huh. That's right.
He's gotta let him. Don't think you're gonna make that
comment and just walk off, just right scall out, bro
(40:17):
just risk it all. I mean, well, you're not really
risking anything. I mean, I mean, maybe you come up
with a couple of baby mamas. That would be the room.
You know, well, coming up after this, we'll tell you
about one team who look they're not trading up. They're
not traded up, and they need to and they should
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