April 3, 2023 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian Noe and Geoff Schwartz fill-in for Jonas, Brady and LaVar, recapping LSU’s win over Iowa in the Women’s College Basketball Championship, including Angel Reese taunting Caitlin Clark. There are some similarities between Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving but the Jets hope Rodgers doesn’t bring the same bad mojo Kyrie does to his teams. Plus, a breakdown of the new NBA CBA including the dumb, in-season tournament.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros in a couple of
Joe with Lamar Rady Win and Jonas Knocks on Fox
Sports Radio. Jeff Schwartz, how do you like to start
your day? Huh? You get a little coffee, You got
a bagel or two? Maybe a little drama with what
happened in the Women's National Championship Game last night and
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that how you get it going? Who are supposed to
be angry at? I want to be angry this morning?
Who who we are we angry at? Like Angel Reees
or Caitlin Clark. I want to be angry this morning.
Look who who's supposed to be angry at? Brian let
me know. I want to know. I want to be
I'll tell you who I'm angry at. Anybody who's making
a horrible argument, and it could be on either side.
That's who I'm angry at. I'm really not angry at
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either girl. It's just some of these arguments, man, they
are freaking brutal. So the deal is the Women's National
Championship Game yesterday LSU beat IOWA one O two to
eighty five. And it's a big story to start off
because Caitlin Clark, for Iowa. She's this mega star. She's
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just been ripping it up. In the tournament, Iowa beat
h South Carolina, who was undefeated national champions, like defending
champs from last season. And so Iowa takes South Carolina
down in the semi finals in the final four, and
so with LSU about to beat Iowa, that's a big story.
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And then Angel Reese from LSU, she does the you
can't see me thing. It's like the John Cena thing.
Shout out WrestleMania. Maybe we'll break that down at some
point today, Jeff, But I watched exactly zero seconds of WrestleMania,
zero seconds of wrestling since the Attitude era, since it's
been a long time, so we will not be breaking
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down wrestletia from last two days. That's fine, no problem. Yeah,
so sorry, sorry about that. I have I have kids
and things to do. Hey, man, I get it, I
trust me, I get it. But the little you can't
see me thing, for the people who don't know, it's
kind of like waving your hand in front of your
own face. It's just a mannerism that John Cena made famous.
Caitlin Clark did it earlier in the tournament. In the
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Louisville game. She did a little she made a bunch
of threes and did a little hat, a little hat,
a little quick. You can't see me to Louisville, And
so Caitlyn Clark she dug in, she dug in, and
she did it at the foul line, right next to Caitlyn,
like you can't see me. And then as the game
was ending, she was walking past Caitlyn making sure that
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she saw her. What she's doing, that you can't see me,
and then pointing to her ring finger like I got
me a ring baby, got a championship over here. I
give you the floor just because I set it up
for a couple of minutes. Jeff, your first thought on
this thing? Man, Oh my god, what a weird thing
to be so angry about. Okay. I have said for
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the longest time that an athlete's superpower, okay, is the
ability to turn anything into motivation. All Right, So after
the game, Angel Reese on LSU, who is their best player? Okay?
Who who didn't play her best game on yesterday? But
it was the fourth leading scorer, But is their best player?
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Like she's the best player. She makes a bazillion dollars
in nil money like she's a legit star for LSU.
After the game, she said that the reason she felt
disrespected was because Caitlin Clark was, in her mind disrespectful
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to South Carolina the game before because South Carolina iowa's
game plan was We're going to pack the middle of
the paint because South Carolina can't shoot. And that's true,
but but there was a moment where Caitlin Clark specifically
kind of like waved off one of the point guards
on South Carolina. I said, I might even guard to you,
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like kind of like like physically kind of waved her off,
and it was disrespectful, absolutely disrespectful. And Angel Reese said,
that's the reason why I felt personally disrespected, and I
had to let Caitlyn Clark know about it at the
end of the game. Okay, think about that. Think about that.
So I am a I'm a pro taunting and trash
talking person. Be my guest, dude. I go for Angel
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res have the most fun possible, Cavin Clark, you want
trash talk, have the most fun, do it. I'm pro taunting.
The explanation is ludicrous taunting just that pro explanation. I
don't know. I don't like I'd rather U should not
explain it, like just be like, yeah, I did it.
Sure the explanation is Ludacris Brian. That would be like
that would be like, um, you're a Notre Dame fan, right, yeah,
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that would be like someone who was Notre Dame's best
player last season. Michael Mayer, the tight end okay, okay,
draft pick, saying that like he felt disrespected because someone
trash talked someone at USC and like he saw on
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film and then you and then they played Stanford. Let's
say it's a Stanford a Stanford player trash talk USC
and then you played Stanford. No Dame did, and Michael
Mayer took disrespect because the Stanford defensive end trash talk
to USC linebacker on film. You'd be like what what what? Wait?
What what what? What? Just like just to be like, yeah,
I did it, and and I think so look good.
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Good for Angel Reece, Congratulations, she's fabulous. She won the championship.
LSU played I mean one hundred and two points yesterday
they had one had Brazilion bench points admitted Brazilion threes.
They normally shoot thirty six percent from three. I believe
they was I think it was sixty five percent from three.
That's starting Kim Mulkee's fantastic coach um one or second year,
their fourth championship. I think it's great for the game
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that we're talking about women's called basketball. The ratings have
been have been through the roof, um, and we're still
talking about it obviously this morning. But UM, the explanation
was really really funny to me and again the billy
for athlete to find this this motivation, right, no one
believed in us, No, they disrespected us. You're like, well, actually,
you know, actually, Georgia football, we thought you were in
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the championship again, Like, no one actually thought you're gonna
be seven and five. Okay, like no one no one
thought that, actually thought that. Maybe one person did. Um,
But you know again, Kaylin Clark, didn't disrespect you, but
you respecting your friend. So I love, I love the
athletes have to do this all the time. It's what
athletes do constantly. The only weird part about the taunting,
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the only weird part about it again pro taunting, is
that is that she did it like while her team
was celebrating the championship. That was a little That part
was a tiny bit weird. But other than that, I
think it was like they were celebrating the championship and
she went like made a point to do it again
in her face to make sure, Hey Kayla and I'm here.
I did it again. Well, let you know I'm still here.
I'm still taunting you. Um. That was kind of an
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odd thing. Other than that, I was like, did you
know it's that too? Right? Like the game was over, ye,
that we're celebrating and she was still doing it. That's
the thing to is that, Like the arguments, because this
was a steady dose on Twitter is well, hey Caitlyn
did it and it was okay, Angel does it and
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it's classless. What's up with that? And the first thing
I would say is it's not the same thing, Like,
let's not act like it's apples to apples. That's the
one thing I would bring out here is Angel followed
Caitlyn around. She followed her like, hey, Kitlyn, you can't
see me, Caitlyn, Caitlyn, you still can't see me. Hey Caitlyn,
guess what, you still can't see me? And ring me
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ring me over here? Like Angel acted like she was
a wide receiver and like, you know, a like a quarterback.
Angel was the cornerback just shadowing a wide receiver. That
was like Dion Sanders at his prime, covering a white house.
That's not the same thing Caitlyn did, you know. And
the other thing is Caitlyn wasn't pointing to her finger,
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which she could have earlier in the tournament, whether it's
Louisville or could have done it against South Carolina, right,
Like that didn't happen either, So it's a bad argument
to say it's the same exact thing. It's not the
end of the world. I just thought it was excessive,
And I do think there's something lame about really talking
trash when the game is decided. I'd have more respect
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for it if it's first half, third quarter, the game
is still in doubt, But when it's one, when you're
up by fifteen in the final minute, I just don't
think that's great trash talking. But again, not a gigantic deal.
Just don't tell me it's the same thing that Caitlin did,
because it's not. Yeah, well, look, people have a lot
of have a lot of problem with nuance, right, and
it's it's certainly not the same that Calen Clark did.
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Caitlyn Clark. It did it for all of a second
and a half walking away from a player and Angel
we still did talk all game. It's not something that
she pulled out at the last second, but she specifically
did target obviously. I love your analogy of the cornerback
falling water exactly. It looked like at the end of
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the game, she looked like reevas island over there and
specifically and like Caitleen Clark was like weaving around her
to make sure that like she didn't acknowledge it either. Um,
oh god, so good hum. People Yeah, people cant like
so I can't tell if it's Internet angry, like really angry,
like who cares? Who cares? Yeah, I think we're not
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even talking about Caitlin and Angel. I think it just
someone gets triggered and we're talking about life experiences at
some point, you know what I mean. I think it
just turns into something like I mean, there certainly is
you know a little bit of a race component to
this obviously, right that that rolls people up, especially on
the Internet. Um, you know, and that's part of it
as well, But it's just like it is. It's so look,
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I think that any publicity is good for a sport
that are continuing to get very popular. Right, the numbers
this weekend are out of control. They're gonna be so high.
Caitlyn Clark has been musty television. She had two forty
point games in a row. The first one was a
forty point triple double. They took down South Carolina. Even
yesterday she put up over thirty points. The fishing was
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her rentous yesterday it was brutal. It costs her an opportunity,
I think in the fourth court to really be aggressive
on offense because she couldn't drive to the lake because
she wouldn't worry about getting of her her fifth foul um.
And nonetheless, it's going to break viewing records for women's
college basketball. It's gone higher ratings than the than the
NBA at ESPN this season. Um so it's been fun
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to watch and I'm glad women's college basketball and I
do cover it from other radio job on the PAC twelve.
You know, is getting the attention I think it deserves. Obviously,
I think they would they would rather not have the
attention like this, but yeah, it's still publicity. You know,
It's not all bad. It's just so you know, One
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of the part of this as well is like no
one really talked about Caitlin Clark doing that. You can't
see me against against Iowa, against Louisville. It was and
we kind of like laughed at her doing the kind
of the hand gesture South Carolina. Like it was like
it was like an after thought to the game. And
but people got so angry over this. It's you know,
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it's like it's let it. It's not that big of
a deal man, like Colon, Yeah, it's yea to me,
it overshadowed. I think it was a really good basketball game.
And again, one hundred and two points, that's a lot
in the championship game, especially yeah, forty minutes on forty
minute game. It just was an odd reaction flashback to
like the end game over. I should have hit that up,
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you know, it's it's like one fifty nine and a
half before the game and then like one seventy two
at one point, and I didn't even think about it
until now, Jeff Schwartz, we had one hundred eighty seven
total points. I should have made some catafy Caitlin Clark
prop to bet over and I think I would have lost.
You would have Yeah, it was like thirty two and
a half or thirty three and a half for a
point total, So yeah, I would. I would have totally
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done it. Um by the way, real fast. How about
the fouling thing where this has been talked about quite
a bit where in basketball it's just such a unique
thing where you literally foul out of game games and
Caitlin Clark didn't file out, but like you said, Jeff,
she was in foul trouble. She had three files at
the first half, like by halftime, and then she picked
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up a personal file because it was a technical foul.
Like technical files. She threw the ball out of bounds
during a time out, let's stop at your play, and
she got a technical for it, so that counted as
her fourth personal foul, which is crazy. But I mean,
it's just another little chapter in the argument of the
book of Hey, should we be ejecting players if they
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pick up their fifth file? I did't. It makes sense.
Olden Polonies who did a show yesterday, he brought this up.
It's been talked about before. But instead of ejecting a
player or disqualifying them, I should say, if you pick
up your fifth file, if you leave that player in
if they pick up another file, the other team gets
two free throws and possession and you still get drama.
So I don't I'm more open to that than I
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used to be. I used to push back like crazy
on that. Well, I think because when you look at
a game like that and you say yourself, well, I
was three best players are all in foul trouble. If
we really want to watch the championship game where it
seemed like the referees we're making a you know, their
personality was like, we're going to call fouls today, you
know what I mean, Like, I guess I understand the
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argument if it's like a game where you, I guess
you really wouldn't have this if the refs don't call
all the fouls. But it felt like yesterday they were
they were on a mission to foul everyone out. Yesterday.
It was so weird. It went both ways. It was
the most fouls ever called Championship game by fall thirty
seven and a lot of Tikie tech stuff, and you're like,
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and then you know, and then the technical on on
Kaylin Clark. I mean they said it was a delay
of game um because she threw the ball backwards not
to an official after a stoppage, and they said, because
there was a delay game already called earlier in the game,
did that cost to your technical foul? It's like, can
we can we not do that? Maybe, like do we
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have to give that to Kaylin the Clark? Can we
can we not? I mean anyone like, can we just
give it to the team? Maybe? Um giving it to
the player? Um. So it just seemed that would be
it would make it more fun at least because he
would allow players to stay in the game. I am
I'm a weird person where I want to see the
best players playing championship games. Yeah, I like when you
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have you know, angel Re set out most of the
first half with fouls. Iowa center, who's our second best
players set out most of the first half with fouls.
I'd rather than play and it'd be you know, if
you call as you mentioned, you know, two shots and
the ball. Yeah, you still have to you still have
to pull off a little bit if you're one of
those players with fouls, but you will still be in
the game. I think it makes more sense that way.
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It's a dramatic shift if they ever do something like that,
but you still have it'd be entertaining, and you still
have a big talking point and it's a significant penalty
if you do pick up another foul. So I don't know, Yeah,
I think it makes more sense. How do you feel
about the men's game adopting quarters. I wouldn't be opposed
to that. It's uh, it's the last of the Mohicans kind,
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you know, like where you have two halves. I'm cool
with quarters. I like, you know, maybe you get a
buzzer beater at the end. You got four chances for
that instead of just two. You know, you were used
to quarters. It breaks it up a little bit more like, Yeah,
I like quarters more than just halves. The other thing
that I think the men's game should have adopt, and
this is very specific, but it's interesting, is you know,
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in the in the women's game and in the NBA,
if you call time out, you can advance the ball
to half court. I would love that the college basketball
you can't. Seems so awtimate that you still can't do
that for those things when you when you call time out,
like at the end of the game, right like like tonight,
Yukon and sanuol State are gonna play. If if you
call time out after a made basket, like with if
Sanuol State called timeout the end of that game on
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on Saturday nights, they would after the miss by Fau,
they would have gotten the ball right at the baseline, right,
I don't think so. I think they would have gotten
it at half court like the NBA does it. They
would have inbounded it from half court there if they
called time out, yeah, that's when they got the rebound.
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They'd advance it to half court since wayn in college basketball, No, no, no,
I'm saying if if the men's game was like yes,
you're right, right, right right, I say, I'm saying the
men's game was like that, they would advance at the
half court, but they can't in college basketball, which just
seems which men's college But it seems silly to me,
like why would you not be able to advance it? No,
I'm with just does this. I totally agree with you.
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I think you would get a lot more chances at
buzzer beaters and legitimate shots at the end for every
Bryce Drew you know shot, or you have that awesome
play by Valpareizo, the Christian Latner shot at the free
throw line. Now everybody has a grant Hill. You get
a lot of awful shots. I think you have way
more drama if you advance it to half agree after
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a time I would take I think the men's game
should have adopted out. I totally agree with that, no
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morning One Pro and a no today. Jeff Schwartz, Right, No,
you like that? Where? Yeah? Filling in for the guys?
What am I proing? And in sports? In sports and
losing money? And yeah, ye, then I recognize faces. Didn't
you play for the Giants as we were told in
Mississippi one time? Yeah? I've never seen someone hustle her
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husband quite like that in public before. That was impressive.
If that lady's listening to our radio show right now. So, Brian,
I had dinner. We did a radio show all year
on Sunday mornings. We had dinner in Mississippi this year
on on a remote location. It was a lot of fun.
And this lady just hustled her husband out of a
bracelet part pretending to know who I was. And it
was incredible in real time to see it happen. Yeah,
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the story was she got some intel. I think she
overheard our conversation. We were talking to like the owner
of the restaurant, and I think she overheard our conversation.
And then she bet her husband a bracelet that she
knew who you were. And she came over and it's like,
didn't she used to play for the Giants And You're like, yeah, yeah,
that was one of my stops. And she's like, you
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all be a bracelet, honey. That it was a hustle job. Man,
it was a con job. We're convinced that was the case. No,
not the slice idea who I was. I wasn't wearing
a Giants T shirt. I played there for two years,
I mean Mississippi right for dinner? Like does he know
there who it was? It was incredibly, it was all
I love that. Then she was like, I recognize faces.
I'm big on faces. I thought, yea great, awesome, Yeah, hey,
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I just think of the truck commercial. I don't know
if there's ever been a song that's been as synonymous
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with a commercial as Bob Seegers Like a Rock, But Um,
that definitely describes the Dallas Mavericks right now, who are
just falling in the standings. They make a trade for
Kyrie Irving all this hope. They were fourth in the
West at the time, Jeff. They just lost again last
night to the Atlanta Hawks. They're four and eleven. When
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both Luca and Kyrie play, they're four and eleven. Now
they're eleventh in the West and they might not even
make the play in. This has been a disaster man. Um. Look,
you know Kyrie Irving has been a saboteur for a
couple of years on teams now right like his personality,
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you know the way he conducts himself. I think that, Um,
you know his presence in locker rooms has not been
good for teams. He's a fantastic basketball player, like there's
no doubt about it, But sometimes it's more than that.
In sports, right, it's it's how do you get along
with your teammates? It's how do you you know, is
there a little bit of of teamwork? There's a little
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bit of just like, hey, how do we get you know,
how do we how do we here? You know, how
do we get along the locker room? Right? Like I mean,
can you imagine like on a road trip, like what
do you talk to Kyrie about? Like how does that?
How does that work? Because part of you know, people
talk about chemistry all the time in sports, right, and
it's very important. Right. The teams I played on that
are good. I was talking even yesterday. I was at
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my son's baseball practice, and my son's on his first
good team. He's eight and a half years old. He's
in you know, literal league team and he's playing literal
league for you know, a couple of years down. It's
he's a good he's a good team. I was talking
to the coaches about it, just like, man, you know,
we're off to good start, like we have a good team.
And when when we coach said, yeah, like the kids
just like each other, like it's a good good it's
a good group of kids. First I'm like, you know what,
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it's a good point. I've been to every game. I
help out of practice when I can, like, yeah, the
kids seem to all like each other. It's not like
a bad kid on the team. There's not a bad
ad Dulan team that I'll just like me around each other.
And that's what chemistry is, right. It's not like it's
not typically on the court or on the field or
on the baseball field. It's off the it's off the field, right,
it's a it's you build that up on the locker room.
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You build that chemistry up on the plane, in the hotel,
you know, before practice, after practice, and just by getting along,
by by by having sometimes shared interest. Even you don't
have to. You don't have to, you don't have to
like enjoy the same thing specifically, but most often if
you have sort of like the same the same sort
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of interest in life, the same sort of goals in life,
the same kind of things that fuel you in life,
do those things get kind of make the chemistry work?
Now at times. You can have players you play with
it you don't get along with all the time, but
are good, you know, good basketballers. But there's something about
those players that make it work. Right Kyrie, it doesn't
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work with Kyrie. It just doesn't right. And we've seen
it now for a couple of years, even go back
to to the Cave dates, like Lebron really made that
work more than anything else, right, he was kind of
the glue that made that team work, obviously, and it
just seems like Kyrie is the problem right now. Yeah,
And that's the thing that's interesting because Kyrie's putting up numbers.
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He scored forty one points, had five rebounds, four assists
last night. He doesn't play defense. That's really the problem.
And the pieces just fit better when they had Jalen Brunson.
Jalen Brunson is not as good of an individual player's
Kyrie Irving is, but he fit better with Dallas because
he actually defends. And also in that Kyrie deal, they
traded Dorian Finney Smith, who's a versatile defender really good.
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And with Luca you gotta have someone play defense. That's
just not Kyrie Irving. So it doesn't fit the same way.
But I think the larger issue here is also with
you talking about chemistry. I can't help but think of
Aaron Rodgers, don't. Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving have a
lot in comments where they're both incredibly talented. They're both
very productive, but they're not exactly the players that just unify.
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They're not like mister chemistry respective sports, and I think
when you look at the tail of the tape, there
are a lot more similarities where they're just different guys.
They're difficult at times, they can be side shows. You've
got Kyrie saging the court, You've got whatever, Aaron Rodgers
and his darkness retreats. They both have one championship. Kyrie
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didn't get the shot. You've got Aaron Rodgers misleading us
saying yeah, I've been immunized, like you've got all of
those things. And I just think that they create challenges
instead of alleviate challenges. And they're not team guys. They're
much more individual guys in team sports. I think there
are a lot of similarities between Kyrie and Aaron Rodgers.
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It's a good point. I will say. The one the
one thing I don't follow maybe the NBA's closely as
the NFL is that the players who play with Aaron
Rodgers don't really have bad things to say about him. Yeah,
like most talked to most of them. I mean there's
the two in the media most most often getting Jamichael
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Finley or Greg Jennings right now and then yeah Jennings
and like James Jones. It feels like the two right
and um, but like but even then, like, I'm not
sure that they really dislike Aaron Rodgers. They might say,
you know, he's not you know, things like that. But
for the most part, if you talk to like David
back Yard right like their left tackle, or obviously Jordy
Nelson or or or Randall Cobb or or Mercedes Lewis,
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and these guys that you know play with forever obviously
like Alan Lazard must like playing with Rodgers. He signed
with the Jets, right, Like, yeah, these guys, they must,
they must like him. And I've talked to players who
play with Aaron Rodgers. They say, yeah, cool, dude, I'm
good with him. Yeah, is there I just searched, like
Kyrie Irving, good teammate on the people, not one story
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about that, Yeah, Like who's the guy, where's Jason Tatum
or Jalen Brown like, no, it was solid. Yeah, No,
we don't anyone else saying, you know, we don't hear
a mass player coming out now being like, guys, look
behind the scenes, man, Kyrie is doing everything possible, like
we're trying to make this work. We're trying to do
this and that. With Rogers, we at least hear that
from teammates, right like, hey man, like like, we're working
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on this, it's gonna be okay, Rogers leading us. We
don't hear that with Kyrie. We don't hear teammates coming
to the defense of Kyrie and saying, hey man, he's
our guy, like he know we're working through and blah
blah blah blah, and so that that's we just don't
hear that about Kyrie. And I do think that that Matt,
You're right, he again great basketball player. No one is
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debating how good a basketball player he is. We know
he's an elite basketball player. He's a supremely talented one
of the best in the NBA right now. But we
keep putting him on these teams and those teams keep failing,
and there has to be something that's happening with him
as the reason why. And I think it's just because
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there's a little bit of just just not friendly like it.
It's like, it's just it's hard to play with someone
that you're not friendly with. Manifests it manifests itself in
many ways on the on a court, on a football field,
it's little small things. It's a lack of trust. Sometimes
it's just a lack of there's bad energies and vibes,
(26:13):
and Jude was just, yeah, it's hard to put into
like examples on the basketball court of what that is.
Certain think your point about defense is obviously very true.
They played no defense there. Um, but um, it's just uh,
Jason Kidd seems obviously very upset. Oh man, he's he's
(26:34):
like pulling is he doesn't have any here, but if
he did, he'd be pulling it out because they just
do not defend. And look, man, I I thought that
Kyrie going to Dallas. I'm like, oh wow, Like, let's
see what happens over here. I didn't have them as
title favorites because of that, but I certainly didn't have
them falling to eleventh in the West. That's insane. And
that's the deal, is it? Can't all just be a coincidence.
(26:56):
It can't be a coincidence that Boston got way better
once Kyrie Irving was gone, you know what I mean.
It can't be a coincidence that Kyrie joined Dallas and
they went from fourth to eleventh. Like, I don't think
that Kyrie is the only reason that's the case. But
to make it sound like, well, he's putting up offensive numbers,
it's not a Kyrie thing. It's too much of a
coincidence for it not to be in some way, shape
(27:18):
or form Kyrie thing. I guess I'm thinking about, like,
you know, you get on the bus and you only
have a small NBA team and there's like and this
is gonna be you know, you mentioned the Warriors, and
I do wonder if there's a little bit of this
with like the Warriors where they're just not you know
that the older players, younger players might not be getting
along as much anymore, and there's just not that kind
(27:38):
of that jelly on the road. I mean, it's only
only that's only reason why I can't I can explain
they're losing on the road. It's like maybe you know,
the young young players, other players just don't see I
I since that you know Draymond Green punch right practice.
There's just like not the unity on the road. Yeah,
I don't know. You hop on the bus and you
like you see Kyrie or you see Draymond, You're like, oh,
(28:02):
I don't want to see this guy on the bus. Right,
You're just like, you know, like you just like you
sit away from that guy. Is there a little bit
with Rogers there too? Where think about last year where
he wasn't there for offseason workouts and then he was
calling out some of his wide receivers you gotta run
the right routes, you gotta catch the ball, and there
were some of those quotes not on the record, but
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the young wife receivers weren't feeling that. It's like, dude,
where were you in offseason workouts? They don't remember you
being There's a little bit that with Rogers, I know,
but the but the guys that are Rogers guys, Yeah,
speak highly of him now that you know what he
reminds me of Jeff. He reminds me of Bill Parcels,
the old Giants head coach. Well we know him mostly
from being the Giants head coach with the other teams
(28:45):
to Patriots Jets, YadA YadA. But it was like, I'll
play you some audio, you'll love this. As a former
Giants player, remember Carl Banks who was just as he's
radio analysts for them. Yeah. Yeah, So he was on
a NFL and that work. This was called America's Game.
He was on one of those shows where they chronicle
a Super Bowl winning team season and he talked about
(29:07):
Bill Parcels. Listen to what he says about Bill parselves
and just think of Aaron Rodgers and how it's split
with some players love this guy, other players not so much.
Here's Carl Banks. That is sort of the relationship Bill
had with his players. He would do something or say
something crazy to you. It affected players differently. I went
(29:28):
through a long period for Parcels and I we literally
hated each other for about an hour a day. I
know some players to this day that just don't like
Bill Parcels, but they played hard for him. It just
it reminds me a bit of Aaron Rodgers, where it's split.
You're right, Like, it's like Parcels. Parcels had his guys,
(29:49):
you know, and so does Aaron Rodgers. But not everybody
feels it. The same way. I just think that he's
one of those dudes where some are gonna like him,
some are gonna hate him. I think Rodgers a lot
like Parcels that way. And when you're in, you're in,
and when you're out, you're out. That's right, Yeah, And
that I think is why, Um, you know we're seeing
you know, the uh, the disconnect. But but again we
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don't when are we seeing to the point keep making like,
when are we seeing any of Kyrie's teammates? That's right,
that's true. Maybe it's a roster size thing. Maybe if
he had fifty two teammates, we'd we'd get a couple
of dudes who like him. I don't know, right, but
you don't hear it. It's a good point. I look again,
(30:35):
I'm not following NBA insiders. I'm not reading the athletic
articles on like on the long you know, the the
the breakdowns on like from behind. You know, there's always
like the debrief on every NFL team by the athletic.
You know, someone on the athletic gets like twenty seven
anonymous sources to talk about in NFL teams. I don't
know if they have that in the NBA and maybe
(30:55):
they will for for the mask. But again, we don't
have just like someone you know, some someone behind the
scenes me like, you know what, he's a great teammate,
he's just you know, just it just didn't work this year.
He's misunderstood. We don't have any of that, ane of that,
and so I think that's a big part of this.
It's just and you look, it's okay to be it's
okay to be different. So I'm gonna have different thoughts
and think differently. Um, but you have to get on
(31:18):
with your teammates and you have to be able to um,
you'll make it essentially make it work as a simplest
way to put in and um, it doesn't seem to
be happening in Dallas. I really think the roster mismanagement,
UM is uh, it's killed. I saw a great tweet
this weekend where Mark Cuban, I guess he had saidy
(31:39):
to pay for Twitter blue, and someone said, my man,
I could pay for Twitter blue, but we can't play
for you can't pay for Jalen Brunson. That was pretty fun.
That's good. Man should chief to pay for Jalen Brunson.
But but but not cheap enough. To pay for uh
for Twitter blue so um pretty for exact good life
(32:01):
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you get your podcast. So, we've got a new CBA
agreement in the NBA for seven years over here, and
they're a couple of interesting bullet points here, Jeff. One
of them is there's gonna be the one and done rule. Continuing,
there's a lot of talk about lowering the minimum age
requirement where you've got kids that could go straight from
(33:09):
high school to the NBA, and it's like, no, just
forget about that, we're not gonna do it. There was
on the ownership and executive side, they're not thrilled with
maybe going back to high school gyms and evaluating players.
On the player's side, the NBPA, their stances soften because
of nil name, image and likeness. These college kids can
make a buck off of their name, image and likeness,
(33:33):
and so they weren't as aggressive saying let's lower this
thing so these kids can be draft eligible. But it's
how I find it interesting. There was so much talk
about that being the case, and then it was just like, oh,
no one, and Dune's continuing. So there's that. Yeah. I
think that the players obviously would rather competition remain, you know,
(33:53):
away from the league from their year, right. I mean, yeah,
it's just self preservation, right. I mean there's a real
good reason. Um. I think it's just a matter of Okay,
well let's just keep kind of the talent and you know,
out of the NBA for one more year. Yeah, and
that I can totally understand that side. I get where
they do it. Yeah, yeah, how about this and in
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season tournament? Jeff. You know who's all over this, our
technical producer, Roberto Flores. He cannot wait for the NBA
in season We're stupid. Yeah, yeah, there's no way, Roberto.
We agree with you that. Yeah, no, it's the opposite.
He is the what is the point of this? Like,
who's who needs this? Like? What is this? What's the
(34:35):
purpose of this? It's basically it's let's just do something
than just play eighty two games? Is a little different. Yeah, okay,
So so they're gonna play eighty two games and then
have in season tournament. Well, the way I had I
had read it being written like a long time ago,
was depending on how far you advanced, like everybody plays
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I think seventy eight games something like at and then
it depends on how far you advance. You might get
to eighty two games. It just depends on how far
you go in the in season tournament. I don't know
all the ins and outs of it, but it's basically
to just not do eighty two games. Do something a
little different. So then do players get paid less if
they only play in seventy nine games instead of eighty
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two games as a team. I don't know. It's a
great question. I know you get incentivized for winning the
in season tournament where you get about, you know, half
a mill per player, But like you're saying, Jeff, if
i make forty two million dollars and I've maken a
little bit less, that doesn't work out. So yeah, I'm
not sure how that. We're just trying to do the
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soccer thing, and I think it's gonna be largely a joke.
For the firsthand, what the soccer thing. They do an
in season tournament and it works great. Not everything can
be replicated in other sports. Now you're European soccer, like
the Champions League, so it's like it's like a tournament
with all the top leagues in Europe. But the different
(36:00):
there is that there's no playoffs there within their own league.
So where's on top at the end of the season
is a is a champion of their league. So this
is a way of them having like a tournament. But
they also but they also played so you said, so
like the English Premier League plays another league in another country. Yeah, yeah,
they played, they played, They played the Italian league. Yeah, okay,
so right, but this country prying that right, It's like
(36:21):
the w Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. That's why it
makes no sense. It makes no sense. Yeah a Lakers fan,
why do I care if they win in mid season? Exactly,
it makes no sense. It makes no sense. I care
if they win the championship, like, oh yeah, are they
gonna raise like a half banner Staple Center with an Exactly,
it makes thing. It's gonna be more of a joke initially,
what they haven't won the finals or haven't had great success.
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Let's say the Clippers when the season tournament for that, Yeah,
they can't win a championship, but they won the season tournament.
Let's I get. I get if you do like a
WBC thing where like you split into countries, that I
think would makes but not not that, not just the
NBA teams pucking each other. Hey, by the way, no
(37:06):
weed testing. Huh okay, well call the married jay you want.
We're not testing, So congratulations. The same things will continue,
and also the the load management provision, if you will,
you got to play at least sixty five regular season
games to be eligible for postseason awards. Kind of interesting
right there. Sure, yeah, that doesn't change anyone's opinion on
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Sports Radio. Jeff Schwartz, how do you like to start
your day? Huh? You get a little coffee, You got
a bagel or two? Maybe a little drama with what
happened in the Women's National Championship Game last night and
(00:24):
that how you get it going? Who are supposed to
be angry at? I want to be angry this morning?
Who who we are we angry at? Like Angel Reees
or Caitlin Clark. I want to be angry this morning.
Look who who's supposed to be angry at? Brian let
me know. I want to know. I want to be
I'll tell you who I'm angry at. Anybody who's making
a horrible argument, and it could be on either side.
That's who I'm angry at. I'm really not angry at
(00:44):
either girl. It's just some of these arguments, man, they
are freaking brutal. So the deal is the Women's National
Championship Game yesterday LSU beat IOWA one O two to
eighty five. And it's a big story to start off
because Caitlin Clark, for Iowa. She's this mega star. She's
(01:06):
just been ripping it up. In the tournament, Iowa beat
h South Carolina, who was undefeated national champions, like defending
champs from last season. And so Iowa takes South Carolina
down in the semi finals in the final four, and
so with LSU about to beat Iowa, that's a big story.
(01:26):
And then Angel Reese from LSU, she does the you
can't see me thing. It's like the John Cena thing.
Shout out WrestleMania. Maybe we'll break that down at some
point today, Jeff, But I watched exactly zero seconds of WrestleMania,
zero seconds of wrestling since the Attitude era, since it's
been a long time, so we will not be breaking
(01:47):
down wrestletia from last two days. That's fine, no problem. Yeah,
so sorry, sorry about that. I have I have kids
and things to do. Hey, man, I get it, I
trust me, I get it. But the little you can't
see me thing, for the people who don't know, it's
kind of like waving your hand in front of your
own face. It's just a mannerism that John Cena made famous.
Caitlin Clark did it earlier in the tournament. In the
(02:08):
Louisville game. She did a little she made a bunch
of threes and did a little hat, a little hat,
a little quick. You can't see me to Louisville, And
so Caitlyn Clark she dug in, she dug in, and
she did it at the foul line, right next to Caitlyn,
like you can't see me. And then as the game
was ending, she was walking past Caitlyn making sure that
(02:29):
she saw her. What she's doing, that you can't see me,
and then pointing to her ring finger like I got
me a ring baby, got a championship over here. I
give you the floor just because I set it up
for a couple of minutes. Jeff, your first thought on
this thing? Man, Oh my god, what a weird thing
to be so angry about. Okay. I have said for
(02:51):
the longest time that an athlete's superpower, okay, is the
ability to turn anything into motivation. All Right, So after
the game, Angel Reese on LSU, who is their best player? Okay?
Who who didn't play her best game on yesterday? But
it was the fourth leading scorer, But is their best player?
(03:12):
Like she's the best player. She makes a bazillion dollars
in nil money like she's a legit star for LSU.
After the game, she said that the reason she felt
disrespected was because Caitlin Clark was, in her mind disrespectful
(03:32):
to South Carolina the game before because South Carolina iowa's
game plan was We're going to pack the middle of
the paint because South Carolina can't shoot. And that's true,
but but there was a moment where Caitlin Clark specifically
kind of like waved off one of the point guards
on South Carolina. I said, I might even guard to you,
(03:52):
like kind of like like physically kind of waved her off,
and it was disrespectful, absolutely disrespectful. And Angel Reese said,
that's the reason why I felt personally disrespected, and I
had to let Caitlyn Clark know about it at the
end of the game. Okay, think about that. Think about that.
So I am a I'm a pro taunting and trash
talking person. Be my guest, dude. I go for Angel
(04:15):
res have the most fun possible, Cavin Clark, you want
trash talk, have the most fun, do it. I'm pro taunting.
The explanation is ludicrous taunting just that pro explanation. I
don't know. I don't like I'd rather U should not
explain it, like just be like, yeah, I did it.
Sure the explanation is Ludacris Brian. That would be like
that would be like, um, you're a Notre Dame fan, right, yeah,
(04:39):
that would be like someone who was Notre Dame's best
player last season. Michael Mayer, the tight end okay, okay,
draft pick, saying that like he felt disrespected because someone
trash talked someone at USC and like he saw on
(05:00):
film and then you and then they played Stanford. Let's
say it's a Stanford a Stanford player trash talk USC
and then you played Stanford. No Dame did, and Michael
Mayer took disrespect because the Stanford defensive end trash talk
to USC linebacker on film. You'd be like what what what? Wait?
What what what? What? Just like just to be like, yeah,
I did it, and and I think so look good.
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Good for Angel Reece, Congratulations, she's fabulous. She won the championship.
LSU played I mean one hundred and two points yesterday
they had one had Brazilion bench points admitted Brazilion threes.
They normally shoot thirty six percent from three. I believe
they was I think it was sixty five percent from three.
That's starting Kim Mulkee's fantastic coach um one or second year,
their fourth championship. I think it's great for the game
(05:47):
that we're talking about women's called basketball. The ratings have
been have been through the roof, um, and we're still
talking about it obviously this morning. But UM, the explanation
was really really funny to me and again the billy
for athlete to find this this motivation, right, no one
believed in us, No, they disrespected us. You're like, well, actually,
you know, actually, Georgia football, we thought you were in
(06:08):
the championship again, Like, no one actually thought you're gonna
be seven and five. Okay, like no one no one
thought that, actually thought that. Maybe one person did. Um,
But you know again, Kaylin Clark, didn't disrespect you, but
you respecting your friend. So I love, I love the
athletes have to do this all the time. It's what
athletes do constantly. The only weird part about the taunting,
(06:29):
the only weird part about it again pro taunting, is
that is that she did it like while her team
was celebrating the championship. That was a little That part
was a tiny bit weird. But other than that, I
think it was like they were celebrating the championship and
she went like made a point to do it again
in her face to make sure, Hey Kayla and I'm here.
I did it again. Well, let you know I'm still here.
I'm still taunting you. Um. That was kind of an
(06:50):
odd thing. Other than that, I was like, did you
know it's that too? Right? Like the game was over, ye,
that we're celebrating and she was still doing it. That's
the thing to is that, Like the arguments, because this
was a steady dose on Twitter is well, hey Caitlyn
did it and it was okay, Angel does it and
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it's classless. What's up with that? And the first thing
I would say is it's not the same thing, Like,
let's not act like it's apples to apples. That's the
one thing I would bring out here is Angel followed
Caitlyn around. She followed her like, hey, Kitlyn, you can't
see me, Caitlyn, Caitlyn, you still can't see me. Hey Caitlyn,
guess what, you still can't see me? And ring me
(07:32):
ring me over here? Like Angel acted like she was
a wide receiver and like, you know, a like a quarterback.
Angel was the cornerback just shadowing a wide receiver. That
was like Dion Sanders at his prime, covering a white house.
That's not the same thing Caitlyn did, you know. And
the other thing is Caitlyn wasn't pointing to her finger,
(07:53):
which she could have earlier in the tournament, whether it's
Louisville or could have done it against South Carolina, right,
Like that didn't happen either, So it's a bad argument
to say it's the same exact thing. It's not the
end of the world. I just thought it was excessive,
And I do think there's something lame about really talking
trash when the game is decided. I'd have more respect
(08:14):
for it if it's first half, third quarter, the game
is still in doubt, But when it's one, when you're
up by fifteen in the final minute, I just don't
think that's great trash talking. But again, not a gigantic deal.
Just don't tell me it's the same thing that Caitlin did,
because it's not. Yeah, well, look, people have a lot
of have a lot of problem with nuance, right, and
it's it's certainly not the same that Calen Clark did.
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Caitlyn Clark. It did it for all of a second
and a half walking away from a player and Angel
we still did talk all game. It's not something that
she pulled out at the last second, but she specifically
did target obviously. I love your analogy of the cornerback
falling water exactly. It looked like at the end of
(08:56):
the game, she looked like reevas island over there and
specifically and like Caitleen Clark was like weaving around her
to make sure that like she didn't acknowledge it either. Um,
oh god, so good hum. People Yeah, people cant like
so I can't tell if it's Internet angry, like really angry,
like who cares? Who cares? Yeah, I think we're not
(09:17):
even talking about Caitlin and Angel. I think it just
someone gets triggered and we're talking about life experiences at
some point, you know what I mean. I think it
just turns into something like I mean, there certainly is
you know a little bit of a race component to
this obviously, right that that rolls people up, especially on
the Internet. Um, you know, and that's part of it
as well, But it's just like it is. It's so look,
(09:41):
I think that any publicity is good for a sport
that are continuing to get very popular. Right, the numbers
this weekend are out of control. They're gonna be so high.
Caitlyn Clark has been musty television. She had two forty
point games in a row. The first one was a
forty point triple double. They took down South Carolina. Even
yesterday she put up over thirty points. The fishing was
(10:02):
her rentous yesterday it was brutal. It costs her an opportunity,
I think in the fourth court to really be aggressive
on offense because she couldn't drive to the lake because
she wouldn't worry about getting of her her fifth foul um.
And nonetheless, it's going to break viewing records for women's
college basketball. It's gone higher ratings than the than the
NBA at ESPN this season. Um so it's been fun
(10:23):
to watch and I'm glad women's college basketball and I
do cover it from other radio job on the PAC twelve.
You know, is getting the attention I think it deserves. Obviously,
I think they would they would rather not have the
attention like this, but yeah, it's still publicity. You know,
It's not all bad. It's just so you know, One
(10:43):
of the part of this as well is like no
one really talked about Caitlin Clark doing that. You can't
see me against against Iowa, against Louisville. It was and
we kind of like laughed at her doing the kind
of the hand gesture South Carolina. Like it was like
it was like an after thought to the game. And
but people got so angry over this. It's you know,
(11:05):
it's like it's let it. It's not that big of
a deal man, like Colon, Yeah, it's yea to me,
it overshadowed. I think it was a really good basketball game.
And again, one hundred and two points, that's a lot
in the championship game, especially yeah, forty minutes on forty
minute game. It just was an odd reaction flashback to
like the end game over. I should have hit that up,
(11:27):
you know, it's it's like one fifty nine and a
half before the game and then like one seventy two
at one point, and I didn't even think about it
until now, Jeff Schwartz, we had one hundred eighty seven
total points. I should have made some catafy Caitlin Clark
prop to bet over and I think I would have lost.
You would have Yeah, it was like thirty two and
a half or thirty three and a half for a
point total, So yeah, I would. I would have totally
(11:48):
done it. Um by the way, real fast. How about
the fouling thing where this has been talked about quite
a bit where in basketball it's just such a unique
thing where you literally foul out of game games and
Caitlin Clark didn't file out, but like you said, Jeff,
she was in foul trouble. She had three files at
the first half, like by halftime, and then she picked
(12:08):
up a personal file because it was a technical foul.
Like technical files. She threw the ball out of bounds
during a time out, let's stop at your play, and
she got a technical for it, so that counted as
her fourth personal foul, which is crazy. But I mean,
it's just another little chapter in the argument of the
book of Hey, should we be ejecting players if they
(12:31):
pick up their fifth file? I did't. It makes sense.
Olden Polonies who did a show yesterday, he brought this up.
It's been talked about before. But instead of ejecting a
player or disqualifying them, I should say, if you pick
up your fifth file, if you leave that player in
if they pick up another file, the other team gets
two free throws and possession and you still get drama.
So I don't I'm more open to that than I
(12:53):
used to be. I used to push back like crazy
on that. Well, I think because when you look at
a game like that and you say yourself, well, I
was three best players are all in foul trouble. If
we really want to watch the championship game where it
seemed like the referees we're making a you know, their
personality was like, we're going to call fouls today, you
know what I mean, Like, I guess I understand the
(13:13):
argument if it's like a game where you, I guess
you really wouldn't have this if the refs don't call
all the fouls. But it felt like yesterday they were
they were on a mission to foul everyone out. Yesterday.
It was so weird. It went both ways. It was
the most fouls ever called Championship game by fall thirty
seven and a lot of Tikie tech stuff, and you're like,
(13:33):
and then you know, and then the technical on on
Kaylin Clark. I mean they said it was a delay
of game um because she threw the ball backwards not
to an official after a stoppage, and they said, because
there was a delay game already called earlier in the game,
did that cost to your technical foul? It's like, can
we can we not do that? Maybe, like do we
(13:54):
have to give that to Kaylin the Clark? Can we
can we not? I mean anyone like, can we just
give it to the team? Maybe? Um giving it to
the player? Um. So it just seemed that would be
it would make it more fun at least because he
would allow players to stay in the game. I am
I'm a weird person where I want to see the
best players playing championship games. Yeah, I like when you
(14:16):
have you know, angel Re set out most of the
first half with fouls. Iowa center, who's our second best
players set out most of the first half with fouls.
I'd rather than play and it'd be you know, if
you call as you mentioned, you know, two shots and
the ball. Yeah, you still have to you still have
to pull off a little bit if you're one of
those players with fouls, but you will still be in
the game. I think it makes more sense that way.
(14:37):
It's a dramatic shift if they ever do something like that,
but you still have it'd be entertaining, and you still
have a big talking point and it's a significant penalty
if you do pick up another foul. So I don't know, Yeah,
I think it makes more sense. How do you feel
about the men's game adopting quarters. I wouldn't be opposed
to that. It's uh, it's the last of the Mohicans kind,
(15:00):
you know, like where you have two halves. I'm cool
with quarters. I like, you know, maybe you get a
buzzer beater at the end. You got four chances for
that instead of just two. You know, you were used
to quarters. It breaks it up a little bit more like, Yeah,
I like quarters more than just halves. The other thing
that I think the men's game should have adopt, and
this is very specific, but it's interesting, is you know,
(15:20):
in the in the women's game and in the NBA,
if you call time out, you can advance the ball
to half court. I would love that the college basketball
you can't. Seems so awtimate that you still can't do
that for those things when you when you call time out,
like at the end of the game, right like like tonight,
Yukon and sanuol State are gonna play. If if you
call time out after a made basket, like with if
Sanuol State called timeout the end of that game on
(15:42):
on Saturday nights, they would after the miss by Fau,
they would have gotten the ball right at the baseline, right,
I don't think so. I think they would have gotten
it at half court like the NBA does it. They
would have inbounded it from half court there if they
called time out, yeah, that's when they got the rebound.
(16:02):
They'd advance it to half court since wayn in college basketball, No, no, no,
I'm saying if if the men's game was like yes,
you're right, right, right right, I say, I'm saying the
men's game was like that, they would advance at the
half court, but they can't in college basketball, which just
seems which men's college But it seems silly to me,
like why would you not be able to advance it? No,
I'm with just does this. I totally agree with you.
(16:23):
I think you would get a lot more chances at
buzzer beaters and legitimate shots at the end for every
Bryce Drew you know shot, or you have that awesome
play by Valpareizo, the Christian Latner shot at the free
throw line. Now everybody has a grant Hill. You get
a lot of awful shots. I think you have way
more drama if you advance it to half agree after
(16:43):
a time I would take I think the men's game
should have adopted out. I totally agree with that, no
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(17:04):
morning One Pro and a no today. Jeff Schwartz, Right, No,
you like that? Where? Yeah? Filling in for the guys?
What am I proing? And in sports? In sports and
losing money? And yeah, ye, then I recognize faces. Didn't
you play for the Giants as we were told in
Mississippi one time? Yeah? I've never seen someone hustle her
(17:26):
husband quite like that in public before. That was impressive.
If that lady's listening to our radio show right now. So, Brian,
I had dinner. We did a radio show all year
on Sunday mornings. We had dinner in Mississippi this year
on on a remote location. It was a lot of fun.
And this lady just hustled her husband out of a
bracelet part pretending to know who I was. And it
was incredible in real time to see it happen. Yeah,
(17:46):
the story was she got some intel. I think she
overheard our conversation. We were talking to like the owner
of the restaurant, and I think she overheard our conversation.
And then she bet her husband a bracelet that she
knew who you were. And she came over and it's like,
didn't she used to play for the Giants And You're like, yeah, yeah,
that was one of my stops. And she's like, you
(18:07):
all be a bracelet, honey. That it was a hustle job. Man,
it was a con job. We're convinced that was the case. No,
not the slice idea who I was. I wasn't wearing
a Giants T shirt. I played there for two years,
I mean Mississippi right for dinner? Like does he know
there who it was? It was incredibly, it was all
I love that. Then she was like, I recognize faces.
I'm big on faces. I thought, yea great, awesome, Yeah, hey,
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I just think of the truck commercial. I don't know
if there's ever been a song that's been as synonymous
(18:52):
with a commercial as Bob Seegers Like a Rock, But Um,
that definitely describes the Dallas Mavericks right now, who are
just falling in the standings. They make a trade for
Kyrie Irving all this hope. They were fourth in the
West at the time, Jeff. They just lost again last
night to the Atlanta Hawks. They're four and eleven. When
(19:14):
both Luca and Kyrie play, they're four and eleven. Now
they're eleventh in the West and they might not even
make the play in. This has been a disaster man. Um. Look,
you know Kyrie Irving has been a saboteur for a
couple of years on teams now right like his personality,
(19:35):
you know the way he conducts himself. I think that, Um,
you know his presence in locker rooms has not been
good for teams. He's a fantastic basketball player, like there's
no doubt about it, But sometimes it's more than that.
In sports, right, it's it's how do you get along
with your teammates? It's how do you you know, is
there a little bit of of teamwork? There's a little
(19:56):
bit of just like, hey, how do we get you know,
how do we how do we here? You know, how
do we get along the locker room? Right? Like I mean,
can you imagine like on a road trip, like what
do you talk to Kyrie about? Like how does that?
How does that work? Because part of you know, people
talk about chemistry all the time in sports, right, and
it's very important. Right. The teams I played on that
are good. I was talking even yesterday. I was at
(20:18):
my son's baseball practice, and my son's on his first
good team. He's eight and a half years old. He's
in you know, literal league team and he's playing literal
league for you know, a couple of years down. It's
he's a good he's a good team. I was talking
to the coaches about it, just like, man, you know,
we're off to good start, like we have a good team.
And when when we coach said, yeah, like the kids
just like each other, like it's a good good it's
a good group of kids. First I'm like, you know what,
(20:40):
it's a good point. I've been to every game. I
help out of practice when I can, like, yeah, the
kids seem to all like each other. It's not like
a bad kid on the team. There's not a bad
ad Dulan team that I'll just like me around each other.
And that's what chemistry is, right. It's not like it's
not typically on the court or on the field or
on the baseball field. It's off the it's off the field, right,
it's a it's you build that up on the locker room.
(21:03):
You build that chemistry up on the plane, in the hotel,
you know, before practice, after practice, and just by getting along,
by by by having sometimes shared interest. Even you don't
have to. You don't have to, you don't have to
like enjoy the same thing specifically, but most often if
you have sort of like the same the same sort
(21:24):
of interest in life, the same sort of goals in life,
the same kind of things that fuel you in life,
do those things get kind of make the chemistry work?
Now at times. You can have players you play with
it you don't get along with all the time, but
are good, you know, good basketballers. But there's something about
those players that make it work. Right Kyrie, it doesn't
(21:45):
work with Kyrie. It just doesn't right. And we've seen
it now for a couple of years, even go back
to to the Cave dates, like Lebron really made that
work more than anything else, right, he was kind of
the glue that made that team work, obviously, and it
just seems like Kyrie is the problem right now. Yeah,
And that's the thing that's interesting because Kyrie's putting up numbers.
(22:09):
He scored forty one points, had five rebounds, four assists
last night. He doesn't play defense. That's really the problem.
And the pieces just fit better when they had Jalen Brunson.
Jalen Brunson is not as good of an individual player's
Kyrie Irving is, but he fit better with Dallas because
he actually defends. And also in that Kyrie deal, they
traded Dorian Finney Smith, who's a versatile defender really good.
(22:32):
And with Luca you gotta have someone play defense. That's
just not Kyrie Irving. So it doesn't fit the same way.
But I think the larger issue here is also with
you talking about chemistry. I can't help but think of
Aaron Rodgers, don't. Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving have a
lot in comments where they're both incredibly talented. They're both
very productive, but they're not exactly the players that just unify.
(22:57):
They're not like mister chemistry respective sports, and I think
when you look at the tail of the tape, there
are a lot more similarities where they're just different guys.
They're difficult at times, they can be side shows. You've
got Kyrie saging the court, You've got whatever, Aaron Rodgers
and his darkness retreats. They both have one championship. Kyrie
(23:20):
didn't get the shot. You've got Aaron Rodgers misleading us
saying yeah, I've been immunized, like you've got all of
those things. And I just think that they create challenges
instead of alleviate challenges. And they're not team guys. They're
much more individual guys in team sports. I think there
are a lot of similarities between Kyrie and Aaron Rodgers.
(23:42):
It's a good point. I will say. The one the
one thing I don't follow maybe the NBA's closely as
the NFL is that the players who play with Aaron
Rodgers don't really have bad things to say about him. Yeah,
like most talked to most of them. I mean there's
the two in the media most most often getting Jamichael
(24:03):
Finley or Greg Jennings right now and then yeah Jennings
and like James Jones. It feels like the two right
and um, but like but even then, like, I'm not
sure that they really dislike Aaron Rodgers. They might say,
you know, he's not you know, things like that. But
for the most part, if you talk to like David
back Yard right like their left tackle, or obviously Jordy
Nelson or or or Randall Cobb or or Mercedes Lewis,
(24:24):
and these guys that you know play with forever obviously
like Alan Lazard must like playing with Rodgers. He signed
with the Jets, right, Like, yeah, these guys, they must,
they must like him. And I've talked to players who
play with Aaron Rodgers. They say, yeah, cool, dude, I'm
good with him. Yeah, is there I just searched, like
Kyrie Irving, good teammate on the people, not one story
(24:47):
about that, Yeah, Like who's the guy, where's Jason Tatum
or Jalen Brown like, no, it was solid. Yeah, No,
we don't anyone else saying, you know, we don't hear
a mass player coming out now being like, guys, look
behind the scenes, man, Kyrie is doing everything possible, like
we're trying to make this work. We're trying to do
this and that. With Rogers, we at least hear that
from teammates, right like, hey man, like like, we're working
(25:09):
on this, it's gonna be okay, Rogers leading us. We
don't hear that with Kyrie. We don't hear teammates coming
to the defense of Kyrie and saying, hey man, he's
our guy, like he know we're working through and blah
blah blah blah, and so that that's we just don't
hear that about Kyrie. And I do think that that Matt,
You're right, he again great basketball player. No one is
(25:30):
debating how good a basketball player he is. We know
he's an elite basketball player. He's a supremely talented one
of the best in the NBA right now. But we
keep putting him on these teams and those teams keep failing,
and there has to be something that's happening with him
as the reason why. And I think it's just because
(25:52):
there's a little bit of just just not friendly like it.
It's like, it's just it's hard to play with someone
that you're not friendly with. Manifests it manifests itself in
many ways on the on a court, on a football field,
it's little small things. It's a lack of trust. Sometimes
it's just a lack of there's bad energies and vibes,
(26:13):
and Jude was just, yeah, it's hard to put into
like examples on the basketball court of what that is.
Certain think your point about defense is obviously very true.
They played no defense there. Um, but um, it's just uh,
Jason Kidd seems obviously very upset. Oh man, he's he's
(26:34):
like pulling is he doesn't have any here, but if
he did, he'd be pulling it out because they just
do not defend. And look, man, I I thought that
Kyrie going to Dallas. I'm like, oh wow, Like, let's
see what happens over here. I didn't have them as
title favorites because of that, but I certainly didn't have
them falling to eleventh in the West. That's insane. And
that's the deal, is it? Can't all just be a coincidence.
(26:56):
It can't be a coincidence that Boston got way better
once Kyrie Irving was gone, you know what I mean.
It can't be a coincidence that Kyrie joined Dallas and
they went from fourth to eleventh. Like, I don't think
that Kyrie is the only reason that's the case. But
to make it sound like, well, he's putting up offensive numbers,
it's not a Kyrie thing. It's too much of a
coincidence for it not to be in some way, shape
(27:18):
or form Kyrie thing. I guess I'm thinking about, like,
you know, you get on the bus and you only
have a small NBA team and there's like and this
is gonna be you know, you mentioned the Warriors, and
I do wonder if there's a little bit of this
with like the Warriors where they're just not you know
that the older players, younger players might not be getting
along as much anymore, and there's just not that kind
(27:38):
of that jelly on the road. I mean, it's only
only that's only reason why I can't I can explain
they're losing on the road. It's like maybe you know,
the young young players, other players just don't see I
I since that you know Draymond Green punch right practice.
There's just like not the unity on the road. Yeah,
I don't know. You hop on the bus and you
like you see Kyrie or you see Draymond, You're like, oh,
(28:02):
I don't want to see this guy on the bus. Right,
You're just like, you know, like you just like you
sit away from that guy. Is there a little bit
with Rogers there too? Where think about last year where
he wasn't there for offseason workouts and then he was
calling out some of his wide receivers you gotta run
the right routes, you gotta catch the ball, and there
were some of those quotes not on the record, but
(28:22):
the young wife receivers weren't feeling that. It's like, dude,
where were you in offseason workouts? They don't remember you
being There's a little bit that with Rogers, I know,
but the but the guys that are Rogers guys, Yeah,
speak highly of him now that you know what he
reminds me of Jeff. He reminds me of Bill Parcels,
the old Giants head coach. Well we know him mostly
from being the Giants head coach with the other teams
(28:45):
to Patriots Jets, YadA YadA. But it was like, I'll
play you some audio, you'll love this. As a former
Giants player, remember Carl Banks who was just as he's
radio analysts for them. Yeah. Yeah, So he was on
a NFL and that work. This was called America's Game.
He was on one of those shows where they chronicle
a Super Bowl winning team season and he talked about
(29:07):
Bill Parcels. Listen to what he says about Bill parselves
and just think of Aaron Rodgers and how it's split
with some players love this guy, other players not so much.
Here's Carl Banks. That is sort of the relationship Bill
had with his players. He would do something or say
something crazy to you. It affected players differently. I went
(29:28):
through a long period for Parcels and I we literally
hated each other for about an hour a day. I
know some players to this day that just don't like
Bill Parcels, but they played hard for him. It just
it reminds me a bit of Aaron Rodgers, where it's split.
You're right, Like, it's like Parcels. Parcels had his guys,
(29:49):
you know, and so does Aaron Rodgers. But not everybody
feels it. The same way. I just think that he's
one of those dudes where some are gonna like him,
some are gonna hate him. I think Rodgers a lot
like Parcels that way. And when you're in, you're in,
and when you're out, you're out. That's right, Yeah, And
that I think is why, Um, you know we're seeing
you know, the uh, the disconnect. But but again we
(30:13):
don't when are we seeing to the point keep making like,
when are we seeing any of Kyrie's teammates? That's right,
that's true. Maybe it's a roster size thing. Maybe if
he had fifty two teammates, we'd we'd get a couple
of dudes who like him. I don't know, right, but
you don't hear it. It's a good point. I look again,
(30:35):
I'm not following NBA insiders. I'm not reading the athletic
articles on like on the long you know, the the
the breakdowns on like from behind. You know, there's always
like the debrief on every NFL team by the athletic.
You know, someone on the athletic gets like twenty seven
anonymous sources to talk about in NFL teams. I don't
know if they have that in the NBA and maybe
(30:55):
they will for for the mask. But again, we don't
have just like someone you know, some someone behind the
scenes me like, you know what, he's a great teammate,
he's just you know, just it just didn't work this year.
He's misunderstood. We don't have any of that, ane of that,
and so I think that's a big part of this.
It's just and you look, it's okay to be it's
okay to be different. So I'm gonna have different thoughts
and think differently. Um, but you have to get on
(31:18):
with your teammates and you have to be able to um,
you'll make it essentially make it work as a simplest
way to put in and um, it doesn't seem to
be happening in Dallas. I really think the roster mismanagement,
UM is uh, it's killed. I saw a great tweet
this weekend where Mark Cuban, I guess he had saidy
(31:39):
to pay for Twitter blue, and someone said, my man,
I could pay for Twitter blue, but we can't play
for you can't pay for Jalen Brunson. That was pretty fun.
That's good. Man should chief to pay for Jalen Brunson.
But but but not cheap enough. To pay for uh
for Twitter blue so um pretty for exact good life
(32:01):
I really was from. If you've said that tweet out,
I'll can give you credit. I'll go find it. But
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you get your podcast. So, we've got a new CBA
agreement in the NBA for seven years over here, and
they're a couple of interesting bullet points here, Jeff. One
of them is there's gonna be the one and done rule. Continuing,
there's a lot of talk about lowering the minimum age
requirement where you've got kids that could go straight from
(33:09):
high school to the NBA, and it's like, no, just
forget about that, we're not gonna do it. There was
on the ownership and executive side, they're not thrilled with
maybe going back to high school gyms and evaluating players.
On the player's side, the NBPA, their stances soften because
of nil name, image and likeness. These college kids can
make a buck off of their name, image and likeness,
(33:33):
and so they weren't as aggressive saying let's lower this
thing so these kids can be draft eligible. But it's
how I find it interesting. There was so much talk
about that being the case, and then it was just like, oh,
no one, and Dune's continuing. So there's that. Yeah. I
think that the players obviously would rather competition remain, you know,
(33:53):
away from the league from their year, right. I mean, yeah,
it's just self preservation, right. I mean there's a real
good reason. Um. I think it's just a matter of Okay,
well let's just keep kind of the talent and you know,
out of the NBA for one more year. Yeah, and
that I can totally understand that side. I get where
they do it. Yeah, yeah, how about this and in
(34:13):
season tournament? Jeff. You know who's all over this, our
technical producer, Roberto Flores. He cannot wait for the NBA
in season We're stupid. Yeah, yeah, there's no way, Roberto.
We agree with you that. Yeah, no, it's the opposite.
He is the what is the point of this? Like,
who's who needs this? Like? What is this? What's the
(34:35):
purpose of this? It's basically it's let's just do something
than just play eighty two games? Is a little different. Yeah, okay,
So so they're gonna play eighty two games and then
have in season tournament. Well, the way I had I
had read it being written like a long time ago,
was depending on how far you advanced, like everybody plays
(34:57):
I think seventy eight games something like at and then
it depends on how far you advance. You might get
to eighty two games. It just depends on how far
you go in the in season tournament. I don't know
all the ins and outs of it, but it's basically
to just not do eighty two games. Do something a
little different. So then do players get paid less if
they only play in seventy nine games instead of eighty
(35:17):
two games as a team. I don't know. It's a
great question. I know you get incentivized for winning the
in season tournament where you get about, you know, half
a mill per player, But like you're saying, Jeff, if
i make forty two million dollars and I've maken a
little bit less, that doesn't work out. So yeah, I'm
not sure how that. We're just trying to do the
(35:39):
soccer thing, and I think it's gonna be largely a joke.
For the firsthand, what the soccer thing. They do an
in season tournament and it works great. Not everything can
be replicated in other sports. Now you're European soccer, like
the Champions League, so it's like it's like a tournament
with all the top leagues in Europe. But the different
(36:00):
there is that there's no playoffs there within their own league.
So where's on top at the end of the season
is a is a champion of their league. So this
is a way of them having like a tournament. But
they also but they also played so you said, so
like the English Premier League plays another league in another country. Yeah, yeah,
they played, they played, They played the Italian league. Yeah, okay,
so right, but this country prying that right, It's like
(36:21):
the w Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. That's why it
makes no sense. It makes no sense. Yeah a Lakers fan,
why do I care if they win in mid season? Exactly,
it makes no sense. It makes no sense. I care
if they win the championship, like, oh yeah, are they
gonna raise like a half banner Staple Center with an Exactly,
it makes thing. It's gonna be more of a joke initially,
what they haven't won the finals or haven't had great success.
(36:45):
Let's say the Clippers when the season tournament for that, Yeah,
they can't win a championship, but they won the season tournament.
Let's I get. I get if you do like a
WBC thing where like you split into countries, that I
think would makes but not not that, not just the
NBA teams pucking each other. Hey, by the way, no
(37:06):
weed testing. Huh okay, well call the married jay you want.
We're not testing, So congratulations. The same things will continue,
and also the the load management provision, if you will,
you got to play at least sixty five regular season
games to be eligible for postseason awards. Kind of interesting
right there. Sure, yeah, that doesn't change anyone's opinion on
(37:28):
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