April 11, 2023 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar react to Rudy Gobert being suspended for the play-in vs the Lakers, after punching his teammate, Kyle Anderson. Teams are calling the Cardinals for their No. 3 pick in the Draft. Plus, trash talk and more on “You In or Out?”
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the way tire buying should be Hey for our intro, Brady,
do you remember what you were referring to when you
said that most people are idiots? Do you remember? I don't.
I'm hoping maybe you do. I also I also feel
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like that's like, really like, of all the things, I'm gon,
who did that veto? I think so. I mean, it's
like Leavargut said, let's have a twos to the College
of Football all favor get one comment that was made
probably two years ago. Most people are idiots? Yeah, um,
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people kind of well you know what it was. I
think I was like looking at social media too much
and then I just kind of went with my initial reaction. Well,
that's probably what it was, speaking of idiotic. Can can
we please very quickly and briefly talk about the punch
that wasn't with Rudy Gobert, Like, like, why is it?
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Is it like because they're so tall and they're so
long that they look awkward doing things like throwing punches
street fighter he got, I mean, he used to punch
from all over the place. Can I ask this though?
Why did he back away? Like you're the bigger guy,
You've got the reach advantage. I mean totally did not
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want to smoke. Yeah, he he backed up a good
seven feet before there was a yeah, because that's why,
oh hit the button. You went out for a whole country. Yeah.
Are you? Are you free to us bailing out the
French and multiple world wars? Yeah? Geez? I mean, what
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do you rou your fruit? Call it France soft? I mean, wow? Why?
I mean, we do like French fries here though. That's
like part of all our less true that is, I mean,
you sure to elaborate about the French. I mean, and
it's not like they're gonna get said about any comments
you make because they're the French. But soft. Oh man,
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that's just so you're saying all Euros are just the
French heros. Uh yeah, French heroes. Okay, that's terrible. Wow,
just I didn't know we were going to take that
approach here. We're gonna attack a guy like they have
a they have a street in France named Theodore Roosevelt. Yes,
the least you can do, right, I mean, he's so
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shocked by the way. By the way, who knew Berto
had it in for the French like this? Burtos some
credit too for knowing history. I mean, well, yeah, I'm
just saying, if you're gonna get suspended for throwing a punch,
can you like make the punch count, like like can
you catch him in the face or like, you know,
if you hit him in the ribs, could he could
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he drop down to one knee and then you got
this the other dude, he punches the wall and fracture.
At least he did some real damage. Like that's my
whole thing. You're gonna get in trouble for it. Do
it right, like break your hand, you know, make it
full speed, go hand break, just crack your ass right
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on up, you know what I mean, Like, come on,
I just don't understand how he punched that man in
his ribs and got suspended. But and with that kind
of frame, wouldn't you look at him as like a
muy Thai guy who could specialize in that just with
that long range, you know, light on the front foot,
you know what I mean. Think about it. Kareem Abdul
Jabbar was fighting Bruce Lee like he was training with
Bruce Lee all that good stuff, right, like he should
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have just like you said, dossil him like he should
have like came with like a roundhouse kick like his
seven foot like you could kick around the whole entire
team and still kick that dude like on his on
his air, like kick his air ring out of his air.
There's a question kick, a little question mark kick right
over the top, you know, the side of the head.
Kyle Anderson's looking around like what hit him? Oh, they
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kick the caps off of they kick the caps off
of those those water bottles. That water bottle would challenge
like he should have, like Rudy Gobert should be able
to have that type of skill in terms of like
pugilistically going after somebody and in the art of hand
to hand combat. Yeah, I didn't know Abdul Jabbar training
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with Bruce Lee that he really four years back in
sixty seven. Yeah, yeah, he was in the movie. Apparently
SVP brought this up and with an interview with Abdul Jabbar,
that's how it became like common knowledge. See Kareem abdul Jabbar,
Bruce Lee just confirming what I just said. Yeah, no,
I'm looking up pictures. I want to see for myself.
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I sometimes you can't be trusted. I want to be
able to see this for myself, right, I mean it
looks I mean some of the photos are a little
bit awkward. Yeah. I mean Kareem's seven two, Bruce Lee's
like five one. Yeah, and so it's very awkward. Yeah,
because he comes up to like Kareem's knee. Yeah, like literally,
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like he's just above Kareem's knee is a Yeah, it's
a bit strange. But I mean, you know, sometimes if
you're gonna train with people from another sport, like did
you guys ever train with anybody from another sport? Or
think you know that would be somebody I'd like to
get together with. I'd like to work with that guy.
I know Brady was big into Lance Armstrong for some reason.
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He wanted to really work out with Lance Armstrong. I
don't know why that was that in jose Can Saco,
I don't know what that was all about, but was there.
I mean to answer your question that you're posing without
all the propaganda, m I know, like there were some
baseball players, so Dustin Pedroia, who was an absolute legend
for the Boston Red Ox. He was training out in
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Arizona when I first came in there as a rookie
to prepare for the Combine, and then I went out
to Arizona. It was a place called Athletes Performance. I
think it's now called EXOS, but a lot of the
baseball guys would go out there, Dustin, I believe it
played at Arizona State, so kind of like some old
stopping grounds. But you know, those guys would be like
playing ping pong and whatnot, like in between workouts. Just
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good dudes, I mean, honestly like they were. They had
a great crew during that time, during that run with
the Boston Red Sox. But he was one of the
cooler guys you're You're like, I wish I could play
baseball just to be on his team. He was just
that type of personality and player like he you wanted
to you wanted to be on his team, Like the
way he chirped at dudes, you know, to motivate him,
the way he just has naturally carried himself as like
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an undersized guy who was an overachiever, just a ton
of fun to be around. What about you, Labar, what
about me? Would you? I mean, did you want to
train with any athletes from another sport, anybody in and
around decent. It could be anything like cycling. Just point
out tennis. I've trained with other Sean Day Mitchell, my homie,
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shots out to DC. I used to train with him.
He was chat chat back in the day. We used
to I went. I went with him a few times
and that was it. And I realized that boxing was
not the sport for me. You know, uh, this is
how you prepare for a fight. And he's like yeah,
Like I was like, yeah, no, this ain't gonna work
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for me, Like this this just isn't no, it's no good. This,
this is no good for LaVar what do you mean?
And we was boys and we hang out and all
kinds of stuff, but I would never work out with him.
After a Yeah, I knew what was wrong with the
one on know. It was just too much cardiovasculars that
were different than Like I'm okay with basketball, like I
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was a basketball player anyway, track, I was okay with that,
but the movements that you gotta do in boxing, it's
it's t is, it's it's it's um, I don't know
it just like for me, I get into my head
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really quickly on things sometimes. So when we were using
the jump rope, I was this was when I was
first introduced to weighted jump ropes too, by the way,
like the handles and stuff like that. And I was
doing it and I was like, why is it? Why
does this feel so heavy? Like like we're going like
like why is it so heavy? Like Sean Bay like,
what what's up? He like, man, they're weighted, and I
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dropped him. I was like, oh, yeah, like, LaVar don't
do weighted like jump broke up rope? Hold are you
supposed to be third person? Yeah, Leavar don't do that. Like, oh, man,
like what are we doing here, bro Ricky Henderson move? Yeah.
I was like, man, come on man. We was on
like slot little whatfense for demanding something? And and I
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gave them slot them Yeah, Oh it's LaVar. I thought
I was going in the gym to be Ivan Drago.
I'll tell you that. I thought I was going to
be like coming out to football games like as the captain,
be like looking at him at the coin toss like
I must break you, you know. And then I did
a couple of workouts with him and I was like,
I'm just good being your friend. I don't need to
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work out with you for us to be able to
say we're friends. I'll be okay over here, I do
think we can touch on the fact that Gobert. I
know this isn't exactly what you would to talk about, Jonnas,
but Jiebert is going to be suspended for a playing game.
It's kind of an interesting move by the t Wolves
coaching staff or maybe even front office to make this decision.
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Well I don't know about tanking, but like, oh oh,
I'm sorry. You're setting a precedent, right, Like you're basically saying, look,
we're not gonna like this is one of those moments
I think in sports where your you create culture and
to your point, Leavar like a very well could impact
their opportunity to obviously move on to the playoffs, but
if anything else ever happens like this again, they're saying precedent,
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We're like, look, we're not We're not We're not handling
this moving forward. And I think the other interesting thing
is you know their their ownerships group's going to change.
You know, a Rod is eventually going to be a
majority owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves. You know he set
himself up to be that, and now I wonder how
much influence he has on that, you know, that decision too,
to set the precedent now that like this is not
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something that you know, we're going to allow to happen
and represent the Minnesota Timber Bowls. Our organization is when
you guys are out there fighting with one another. I mean,
so you're you know, your most important defender is now
suspended for what is a one and done game. I
just I think from an organizational standpoint, it feels like
they're trying to send a message, whether it's for this
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year's team or what about What message was Jayden McDaniels
trying to send to that wall when he punched it
now and now he's trying to show him whose boss,
and it you know, backfired on him a little bit,
you know. So he tried, he tried to hit the
wall with a scorpion come here. Lesson learned then he
realized that the wall just wasn't you know, it just
wasn't going to cooperate. I do wonder though, if Minnesota
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suspends Rudy Gobert, if this is the nine ten matchup
and not the seven eight, because if they lose this,
they still have an opportunity to play the winner of
the nine ten to get into the eighth seed. If
this was a nine ten winner take all or winner
you know, stays alive and the other one goes home.
I wonder if they would have suspended Rudy Gobert. That's
what I wonder, because I think they do it regardless,
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because you don't even give yourself the opportunity to get
to that next game. Yeah, but they could justify it
by saying, listen, he didn't hit him in the face.
It was a solar plex shot, and clearly he needs
to work on his stand up and then correct, and
then you could let him play that nine ten matchup
and go, we've talked to him, we've addressed this internally.
There's been an undisclosed fine, and then we're gonna move
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on because they've got not even have to say I've disclose.
You could disclose that fine and say we we we
heavily fined team like that that will not be tolerated,
and go for them. There. I agree, Jonas, I agree
with you. They TANKI so well, I mean, well he
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is gonna be I mean they're eight point underdogs, so
they're gonna lose to the Lakers. By the way, Lebron
gets another break, so congratulations, the Lakers get all the
breaks in the world. Just continues on there. But they
are gonna you know, they'll play the nine ten winner
and then that team will get the eight seed and
get to be eliminated in five games in the first round.
But you know, it is interesting not to like touch
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on the Lakers now as we're kind of highlight this matchup.
I mean, the original Lakers team that Lebron built was
going nowhere, and I don't know if you want to
give Rob Polinka credit for the moves he made, and
obviously the trade of Russell Westbrook where they got back
in return with D'angela, Russell and Beasley, but it turned
on their entire season. I mean, at one point, you know,
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Lebron had an injury that we thought he was going
to make it back, and then because he's Lebron and
he's got super you know, power, healing, you know abilities,
he's able to come back now and play with a
team that seems to have chemistry and be jelling and
now sets itself up to maybe be able to make
a run, especially with the current circumstances and where they're at.
So it is like when I look at the success
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Lebron's had, you know, you go back to Miami, that
team was set up by pat Riley. You know, you
now look at the Lakers and if they are able
to go on a run and win it this year,
you know, it's in large part due to other people
around him helping to construct a team that allows them
to be successful. Yeah. I think he's you know, the
years that where he hasn't been successful in large part.
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I think it's because he's meddled sometimes and trying to
make some of those front office decisions, and I just
I never feel like that works out for players, So
like every time they do it, it ends up blown
up back in their face. Are you taking a shot
at Lebron James in Ohio alum same class as you,
Brady Quinn? Are you trying to say that Lebron James
is a bad GM? Is that what you're trying to say?
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Metal He's not a gem? And I just feel like
that's probably better off now until the day he becomes one,
which I'm sure he's got that in his future. He
should just focus on, you know, being the best teammate
and basketball player he can be, which he's the best
in the world right now what he wants to be.
So that's all I'm saying is I just feel like
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when you look through the history of when they tried
to construct a team hasn't really worked out. I think
the way he had hoped, or at least not to
the amount of success. You know, he has hoped. It's
two prosy. I know, we got to go to break
But he said meddling. And you know, the first thing
I thought about when he said meddling, What cartoon did
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you think about to bring up a cartoon to memory now?
Oh no, it would have been Scooby Doo. Every single
time they caught like what seemingly was a monster or
a ghost, and at the end they would take the
hat off and they'd be like, oh, it was mister
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such as such. And he was like, I almost got
away with it, And I would have if it weren't
for you, meddling kids. That's true. He used to always
say that that's Scooby right there. By the way, you're member, Lee,
Am I right? Helee? Yeah, am I right? Lee? Of course, Hey,
by the way, I would have been able to do
it if it hadn't been for you meddling kids. By
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the way, let's go live too. Are I have an
update on Kareem abdul Jabbar and Bruce Lee, who's his
tall as Kareem's kneecaps inside lead to laugh for the
latest Lee Well, of course, I mean if you guys
have seen the footage from that from the last movie
Bruce Lee was filming, which was Game of Death that
he wrote and directed, where he was fighting Kareem abdul
Jabbar right in his famous yellow jumpsuit. Yeah, means that's
when they were training together, when they were training, yeah,
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for the movie Game of Death. Yeah. Yeah, them kicks
was crazy too. Kareem abdul Jabbar's kicks were crazy. My
My whole thing is, and I've seen that those that
that movie, I believe. I'm pretty certain I've seen the
movie or the clips whatever it was. But Kareem was
kicking the hell out of Bruce Lee. And my whole
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thing is, if he's that big and he's kicking a
dude that's small. If Kareem ain't kicking Bruce Lee into
the walls every single time he kicks him, something right, Yeah,
I'm just saying it's gifted as Bruce Lee was, and
I know he could turn his whole body into one
muscle and all this old other stuff. But you seven
foot and if you see that movie a young Kareem
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at that point, his legs were jacked like he was
he was ripped up, and he was just kicking him
like like it looked like they were ankle kicks, but
he was like kicking him in the head, you know
what I mean. Like that's how much taller he is
than than what it was than Bruce Lee, like it was.
He just should have been kicking him way like he
should have been kicking him out of the frame. Yeah, anyway,
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go ahead, I'm sorry now doesn't seem right. Medling kids,
all right, So coming up next here from the Tirac
dot Com studios, we are going to talk about the
potential trade that could be happening very very soon in
the NFL. And no it's not the one that you've
been hearing about for weeks and weeks, it's yours. Next
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You Out as we close up shop here on a
Tuesday morning. So again a little over twenty minutes from now.
For that, let's get into some NFL conversation, if you will,
because we've got some speculation out there, some rumblings about
a potential trade in the NFL Draft, because, according to
Adam Schefter of Ess Hungry Stop, at least six teams,
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according to Schefter, have inquired with the Arizona Cardinals about
moving up to number three. Now, my assumption would be
those are teams that are interested in taking a eight quarterback.
There at three teams, you think, okay, well, let's I
would say the Raiders, Well, hold on, let's just go
buy the closest in proximity to them, right, Well, what
would you think the Colts? Yes, the Colts at four
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up Seattle maybe at five, yes, yeah, absolutely, say Detroit
at six. No, I don't think Detroit. I don't know
you're gonna have a hard time getting to six then,
because we've got two right now. So let's say no,
one Detroit. Let's keep counting Las Vegas at seven. Absolutely, okay,
Atlanta at eight, atlant at eight, not Chicago at nine,
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not Philly at ten, Tennessee at eleven, Tennessee, Yeah, okay,
that's five. Who's the other ten? The Texans at twelve?
The Texans are drafting? Well, yeah, so you can't include
the Texans. Why can't you? Because they're already there, You're
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already gonna take Okay, let's let's assume though that. Yeah,
the idea that they're not going to take a quarterback
at two and then try to find their guy at
twelve is a huge risk and to me, not really
worth it if on the Texans, Like, I think, that's
where you know, the running is already on the wall
for Nickossaria. So that's how I would view New England
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at fourteen. That's an interesting one. I mean, we can
go back to Detroit at six if you want, because
it's not like Jared Goff has that much left on
his current contract. It's not like Jared Goff is that
type of player where you're gonna be like, ah, we
don't need to take a guy. And if there's a
guy the name of Jared Goff after I'm not trying
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to shame him. I'm not, I promise. I just don't
think why would you pass up on? I mean, think
about Las Vegas got Garoppolo. Yeah, they're looking to get
a quarterback. Now, hold on for a second. In regards
to Goff, he has two years left on his deal.
You know, his dead cap hit would be if they
did draft a quarterback and just wanted to cut him
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and move on. What's that? Oh that's too high. No,
it's not, because you could do a post June one
designation and cut that in half over the next time.
Oh well then if you could. And here's the other
thing that people have to take into account. So Minnesota
is another team that could potentially be looking to take
a quarterback, but they're not trading from what twenty two,
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twenty three wherever they're at to three. But that's a
team that you have cousins under his contract in his
final year. Now he's got voidable years after it, which
all that really means is they spread out obviously a
portion of the bonus for accounting purposes. But this is
his last year in Minnesota. They didn't extend him. They
can't cut him because the dead cap is so significant.
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But it's it's become it's become really common now, and
it goes back to Drew Brees towards the end of
his career. Teams will put on avoidable years, meaning years
where they're spreading over the port and they paid out
in a bonus right, and so it hits future cap
years for two or three years maybe and after the
guy's gone, but the guy's no longer on the roster.
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That's that's become a lot more common now than probably
ever before, especially with quarterbacks. So it's not that uncommon
to be paying for a guy who's not on your team, well,
you know, while you're moving on to another player at
that position, especially a rookie, it's a lot cheaper. There's
also the reality that the six teams at Schefter's reporting
on that have inquired about trading up to number three,
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that maybe it's not really six. Maybe that's the Cardinals
who are full of crap, and maybe it's like more
like three or four, and they're trying to get other
other teams interested in somebody to pull the trigger at
number three if they really won that quin. But really,
in reality, one is enough. I mean, let's just be
quin two you need to but one is enough. Market.
You can create the market. But because because let me
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ask you, if there was more than one team that
was actively involved right now, Faron Rodgers, yes, you can
run the value up one not the value, it just
it speeds up everything like the deal is getting done.
Otherwise the other team's gonna do it right. Yes, you
can always correct that, but but you could always play
the idea of Aaron Rodgers value being what it is
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and it's solidified, and everybody plays by that rule like
his value is his value, this is what we want,
this is what we're going to give, and then it
works out. You know. I mean people posture, you know
what I mean, Like teams are going to posture. So
even if there's three teams involved or four teams involved,
they're still going to be posturing. That takes place. I mean,
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that just is what it is. So I mean, you
just gotta have like you just have to have one
that is seriously interested and and that's what you gotta
You gotta really play on who you feel maybe and
especially if you do have the one, then you focus
in on how do you get that done? You know,
if there's more than one, then you sit there and
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you can I guess you can allow for it to
play out and say, well, they're offering this, what are
you going to offer? Well, they're offering this. I mean,
I don't know how all of that works in terms
of negotiations with the draft trades. I mean, how outrageous
can you get? I mean, I know the whole Ricky
Williams or the hirschel Walker deal, But how ridiculous can
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you really get in terms of trading out of a
high pick? Like is that stuff kind of slotted to?
Is there a value like almost like a fixed market value?
A number two overall pick? This is what you should expect? Like,
how does that even work? Do you? Are you aware
of that? Yeah? I mean you, yeah, you've got your
your you know if you're referring to like trading up
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in the drafts or what a specific are your meany? Yeah? Yeah?
So so say, for instance, you're at the number two pick, right,
number three pick, number three pick you want to give
you want to trade that pick away, like they were
a set value to what that pick has, Like we
get a number one pick, and this year's draft we
get a number one pick, and next year's draft we
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get two overall, Like is that slotted? Yeah, we talked
about this yesterday. So there's essentially a chart that for
every single pick in the draft there's an assigned value.
So for the first pick of the draft, the values
assigned a three thousand points. For the very last pick,
it's two points. And every draft, every team has their
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own draft value that they associate. This is based off
Jimmy Johnson's that used to be what the you know,
in the NFL industry, everyone used, right because it made
trading picks a lot faster. So you call up a team,
they're using the same draft chart. You guys obviously are
looking at. The values for each pick is the same.
It makes a lot easier. And so if you're at
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the number like three pick in this point and it's
twenty two hundred points and you're the Minnesota Vikings who
are selecting at what twenty three, twenty two something like that, John,
let me double check. Yeah, it's it's it's seven, seven
hundred and eighty points, seven and sixty points. So if
you're the Cardinals, you're like, all right, go ahead and
give me that first round pick later in the draft.
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But now you've got to come up with another fourteen
hundred approximate points at least to make up for the
difference for the Vikings. Yeah, twenty four, okay, so seven forty,
So you know you've got to come up with eighteen
what is it, eighteen hundred points? Excuse me? Was it
like fourteen hundred points? Yeah, approximately of what you would
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need in order to make up for the difference in
you know, going from three to twenty four. And what
are their conversations there? So the interesting thing becomes when
you mentioned future picks. Teams look at future picks and
they value them around less than what they are. So
let's say, for example, you know, Leavar, you're trading with
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me and you say, hey, i'll give you next year's
second round pick. Well, we don't really know what exactly
that's going to be. And so the safest way or
the most conservative way to make an assumption on where
that would be right. Let's say, in a perfect draft,
because this year is not like this, you got thirty
two picks in the first round, thirty two picks in
the second round, so you would say conservatively, well, you know,
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we're probably picking somewhere around sixty four, right, we can
bet on that. But what teams really do is they say,
we're going to view that as a third round pick,
so that's how we value it. So any future pick,
it's around less than what it's actually stated as, at
least in the minds of the teams when they're trading picks.
Right now. God, it was so much simpler when the
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Saints just traded up all that draft capital to take
Ricky Williams and then he showed up on the cover
of a magazine in a wedding dress. There's just so
much What do you mean it was the draft right
before me? Well, that trade was the reason why Washington
got the two and three picks. Really, so, Ricky williams
wedding dress is the reason you're a commando. Yeah, don't
(27:59):
you think if you're a Dick Kell, You're like, what
the hell am I doing? Right? They should have but hey,
Ricky Williams had a good career. I mean, I know
it was a little bit strange, but if you go back,
I think he's he's part of the ten thousand yard club.
I'm not mistaken. Definitely had a good career yet just
very kind of a lot of twists and turns there.
But when he got to Miami he was really good.
(28:19):
So actually I think he was on the Baltimore Ravens
team that lost in the playoffs to the Patriots, and
then the year after they won the Super Bowl. So
I remember seeing that and he was actually on the
field as a photographer actually filming the Venns. No, the
Ravens winning the Super Bowl against San Francisco. So that
(28:42):
was I remember that back in the day. Just copious
research here, that's what I do. Cosy Brady called me
years ago. He said, you know, I'm gonna start calling
you show prep Jesus like, that's what he called. You
didn't say that. I could have sworn you said that. Yeah,
I've actually called the question. How during a show you
will say things that you don't think through and then
it just falls apart on live air. No, No, no no,
(29:06):
it's it's not really that. It's just you. You just
on the you know, in a moment's notice, you just, oh,
I get an idea, I'm gonna talk about this. Didn't
think it through. Yeah, but that's the fun stuff though. Yeah. Yeah.
And then like if somebody calls me out and I'll
just say I never said it, it's called accountability. Yes,
like saying, for example, if Tony Romo makes over what
ten million dollars, you're gonna sex change And I never
said that. I never said that on the air. I've
(29:27):
never said that on the air. Then to provide the
proof if I actually said that, as a broadcast professional,
Tony Romo gets ten million dollars a year, I'm getting
a sex change. Wow. I mean it's it's it's it's
now kind of widely acceptable. So yeah, it does, go
ahead and do it. You don't even have to make
a bet. You don't even have to pi up your
(29:48):
bet anymore. Jonas. You know, the thing is, why is
it that part of the open for our show? You know,
why why is it whatever Jonas is says in the open?
Why isn't that what we're leading the show? Because I'm
a professional, and that was Those are outtakes and I'm
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Do you ever have a syrup sandwich? Too much sugar?
What a lot of sugar? I call it French toast
if you ask me, Oh, you know, it's just meat though, Yeah,
I hear you. Man. Roberto that is one of the
easiest things to make is Roberto doesn't call it that. Yeah,
(32:18):
it's too soft, you know, was an American toast or
Mexican too right? A web ball, it's a little harder ball,
something that's not as runny, you know what I'm saying.
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shoe What you enough? If they're in, h please four?
If they're out, all right, leave the lab. What do
we got guys? Roberto was talking about talking crap on
(33:23):
the French start this hour might not be the best
day to do it, because it's it's poutine day. Poutine,
the famous dish from Quebec, French Quebec good hat poutine.
What is poutine? Poutine? It's like gravy on top of fries.
Yeah that's good. Oh yeah, that is good. That seems good.
(33:43):
It is good poutine. Thank you appreciate it. So I'll
go ahead and sit this one out. I'm all in
on the poutine. Yeah. What do you want us to
do when you don't eat food and we're talking about
foods out? I said, I was gonna sit this one out.
I know. Why are you're talking to me? Talk to
the bar so you're at We'ready says he's really into
the pootine. Why are you gonna bring me into it?
(34:05):
What I said, I'm into the pootin' s right, I'm
into the pot I'm into the pootin. I'm into the
I really love me some pootine. Yeah, I know, I'm
more of a I'm more of a protest right there
with you, not really pootine protein for me. You guys
like chili cheese fries. I'm a chi chili cheese fries. Yeah,
(34:26):
which would you rather be in on? But which would
you rather be in on? The pootine or? Um, Tommy's
Tommy's not even close? Yeah, um, I don't studio holding up?
Please flash on, Ali? Did you have chili cheese fries?
And I just said, yeah, I had yesterday a little
(34:47):
some schnitzel. I mean you would notice snitzel. You should
have been able to notice this. Remember he's been uh
you haven't even walked outside yet. Yeah, I don't know
what my best behavior today? Baked beans the day before
that was pretty bad. Oh no, you went in baked
beans and chile on back to back days. Yeah, who
(35:08):
are you punishing? Like? What is this happen? Bang? Godly,
poor Todd. That's like, that's two scoops of nothing. So
I was sleeping on the couch. What are you gonna
have to pay? Indian Food air League? All right, that's funny.
(35:30):
That's my my grandmom's name. Actually, anyways, Arie League grabs
she's she's passed away. She's not here. Any top shots
out to you up top? You know, Okay, go ahead, guys.
It's the start of the play in tournament. As we
talked about earlier. In the three years of the play
in existence, either as a one game format in twenty
(35:52):
twenty or multi game brackets starting twenty twenty one, not
a single team has made it out and won the
first round of the playoff series. Are you in her
out on playing tournament? I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
I got a reason to watch now. Someone's going home tonight.
He's appointment television in that regard, So I'm I'm in.
It's just a rip off. It's a rip off of
(36:14):
the first four game in college basketball. It's more unoriginal
scheduling by the NBA. It's just what are they going
to do next? Change the NBA Finals to Super Bowl?
I mean, this is all they do. They just copy
whatever other leagues do that are successful and try and
pretend it's their own. They expand their playoffs to this
faster than the NFL did with their seventh team they added. Yeah,
(36:36):
but I'm talking about college basketball. I know, but you
mentioned the Super Bowl and the NBA ripping off other stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
for the NBA made the first move with expanded Well,
it was just it was a comp to what their
championship is called gotch But thank you, thank for breaking
that down again. I'll sit this one out too, the
all right, go ahead, le guys. If you have an Instagram,
you probably know of the super bloom. If you don't
(36:57):
know what super bloom is, it's the term given to
the above average number of blooms in the desert wildflowers. Uh,
you know, when all the beautiful flowers bloom in the
desert here in southern California. Are you in or out
taking those Instagram photos for your significant other out? Well? Yeah,
or a superloom season itself, you know. I mean I
(37:19):
do have a little bit of understand what the questions out. Yeah,
it's when all the girls now it was in the flowers,
and you get are you in? Is that why you
brought the We're all out? But I'm out, I'm out.
I mean now, I happen to be a bit of
a green thumb, all right. I did just plant some
stuff at my house last week. But I don't go
on Instagram to post photos or anything like that, so
(37:40):
I don't really, I'm out. It's not my thing. No,
it's more of an Ohio thing. Always putting end to
that at the beginning of a relationship. Not gonna take photos. Yeah,
I'll take photos and instagram them. Fries and gravy. Baby
you got you got another one, lady? Sure, one last one.
I don't know if you guys are Stranger Things fans,
(38:01):
but they have announced that they're doing an animated spinoff
on Netflix. You in or out on that. Stop always
trying to like take something that's great and make it
into something more. Oh ut, appreciate it for what it
is exactly. Te outo o ut out Hey J Yeah,
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do you remember what you were referring to when you
said that most people are idiots? Do you remember? I don't.
I'm hoping maybe you do. I also I also feel
(01:38):
like that's like, really like, of all the things, I'm gon,
who did that veto? I think so. I mean, it's
like Leavargut said, let's have a twos to the College
of Football all favor get one comment that was made
probably two years ago. Most people are idiots? Yeah, um,
(01:59):
people kind of well you know what it was. I
think I was like looking at social media too much
and then I just kind of went with my initial reaction. Well,
that's probably what it was, speaking of idiotic. Can can
we please very quickly and briefly talk about the punch
that wasn't with Rudy Gobert, Like, like, why is it?
(02:24):
Is it like because they're so tall and they're so
long that they look awkward doing things like throwing punches
street fighter he got, I mean, he used to punch
from all over the place. Can I ask this though?
Why did he back away? Like you're the bigger guy,
You've got the reach advantage. I mean totally did not
(02:47):
want to smoke. Yeah, he he backed up a good
seven feet before there was a yeah, because that's why,
oh hit the button. You went out for a whole country. Yeah.
Are you? Are you free to us bailing out the
French and multiple world wars? Yeah? Geez? I mean, what
(03:09):
do you rou your fruit? Call it France soft? I mean, wow? Why?
I mean, we do like French fries here though. That's
like part of all our less true that is, I mean,
you sure to elaborate about the French. I mean, and
it's not like they're gonna get said about any comments
you make because they're the French. But soft. Oh man,
(03:30):
that's just so you're saying all Euros are just the
French heros. Uh yeah, French heroes. Okay, that's terrible. Wow,
just I didn't know we were going to take that
approach here. We're gonna attack a guy like they have
a they have a street in France named Theodore Roosevelt. Yes,
the least you can do, right, I mean, he's so
(03:50):
shocked by the way. By the way, who knew Berto
had it in for the French like this? Burtos some
credit too for knowing history. I mean, well, yeah, I'm
just saying, if you're gonna get suspended for throwing a punch,
can you like make the punch count, like like can
you catch him in the face or like, you know,
if you hit him in the ribs, could he could
(04:12):
he drop down to one knee and then you got
this the other dude, he punches the wall and fracture.
At least he did some real damage. Like that's my
whole thing. You're gonna get in trouble for it. Do
it right, like break your hand, you know, make it
full speed, go hand break, just crack your ass right
(04:33):
on up, you know what I mean, Like, come on,
I just don't understand how he punched that man in
his ribs and got suspended. But and with that kind
of frame, wouldn't you look at him as like a
muy Thai guy who could specialize in that just with
that long range, you know, light on the front foot,
you know what I mean. Think about it. Kareem Abdul
Jabbar was fighting Bruce Lee like he was training with
Bruce Lee all that good stuff, right, like he should
(04:55):
have just like you said, dossil him like he should
have like came with like a roundhouse kick like his
seven foot like you could kick around the whole entire
team and still kick that dude like on his on
his air, like kick his air ring out of his air.
There's a question kick, a little question mark kick right
over the top, you know, the side of the head.
Kyle Anderson's looking around like what hit him? Oh, they
(05:17):
kick the caps off of they kick the caps off
of those those water bottles. That water bottle would challenge
like he should have, like Rudy Gobert should be able
to have that type of skill in terms of like
pugilistically going after somebody and in the art of hand
to hand combat. Yeah, I didn't know Abdul Jabbar training
(05:37):
with Bruce Lee that he really four years back in
sixty seven. Yeah, yeah, he was in the movie. Apparently
SVP brought this up and with an interview with Abdul Jabbar,
that's how it became like common knowledge. See Kareem abdul Jabbar,
Bruce Lee just confirming what I just said. Yeah, no,
I'm looking up pictures. I want to see for myself.
(05:59):
I sometimes you can't be trusted. I want to be
able to see this for myself, right, I mean it
looks I mean some of the photos are a little
bit awkward. Yeah. I mean Kareem's seven two, Bruce Lee's
like five one. Yeah, and so it's very awkward. Yeah,
because he comes up to like Kareem's knee. Yeah, like literally,
(06:20):
like he's just above Kareem's knee is a Yeah, it's
a bit strange. But I mean, you know, sometimes if
you're gonna train with people from another sport, like did
you guys ever train with anybody from another sport? Or
think you know that would be somebody I'd like to
get together with. I'd like to work with that guy.
I know Brady was big into Lance Armstrong for some reason.
(06:40):
He wanted to really work out with Lance Armstrong. I
don't know why that was that in jose Can Saco,
I don't know what that was all about, but was there.
I mean to answer your question that you're posing without
all the propaganda, m I know, like there were some
baseball players, so Dustin Pedroia, who was an absolute legend
for the Boston Red Ox. He was training out in
(07:01):
Arizona when I first came in there as a rookie
to prepare for the Combine, and then I went out
to Arizona. It was a place called Athletes Performance. I
think it's now called EXOS, but a lot of the
baseball guys would go out there, Dustin, I believe it
played at Arizona State, so kind of like some old
stopping grounds. But you know, those guys would be like
playing ping pong and whatnot, like in between workouts. Just
(07:24):
good dudes, I mean, honestly like they were. They had
a great crew during that time, during that run with
the Boston Red Sox. But he was one of the
cooler guys you're You're like, I wish I could play
baseball just to be on his team. He was just
that type of personality and player like he you wanted
to you wanted to be on his team, Like the
way he chirped at dudes, you know, to motivate him,
the way he just has naturally carried himself as like
(07:46):
an undersized guy who was an overachiever, just a ton
of fun to be around. What about you, Labar, what
about me? Would you? I mean, did you want to
train with any athletes from another sport, anybody in and
around decent. It could be anything like cycling. Just point
out tennis. I've trained with other Sean Day Mitchell, my homie,
(08:06):
shots out to DC. I used to train with him.
He was chat chat back in the day. We used
to I went. I went with him a few times
and that was it. And I realized that boxing was
not the sport for me. You know, uh, this is
how you prepare for a fight. And he's like yeah,
Like I was like, yeah, no, this ain't gonna work
(08:27):
for me, Like this this just isn't no, it's no good. This,
this is no good for LaVar what do you mean?
And we was boys and we hang out and all
kinds of stuff, but I would never work out with him.
After a Yeah, I knew what was wrong with the
one on know. It was just too much cardiovasculars that
were different than Like I'm okay with basketball, like I
(08:48):
was a basketball player anyway, track, I was okay with that,
but the movements that you gotta do in boxing, it's
it's t is, it's it's it's um, I don't know
it just like for me, I get into my head
(09:09):
really quickly on things sometimes. So when we were using
the jump rope, I was this was when I was
first introduced to weighted jump ropes too, by the way,
like the handles and stuff like that. And I was
doing it and I was like, why is it? Why
does this feel so heavy? Like like we're going like
like why is it so heavy? Like Sean Bay like,
what what's up? He like, man, they're weighted, and I
(09:31):
dropped him. I was like, oh, yeah, like, LaVar don't
do weighted like jump broke up rope? Hold are you
supposed to be third person? Yeah, Leavar don't do that. Like, oh, man,
like what are we doing here, bro Ricky Henderson move? Yeah.
I was like, man, come on man. We was on
like slot little whatfense for demanding something? And and I
(09:52):
gave them slot them Yeah, Oh it's LaVar. I thought
I was going in the gym to be Ivan Drago.
I'll tell you that. I thought I was going to
be like coming out to football games like as the captain,
be like looking at him at the coin toss like
I must break you, you know. And then I did
a couple of workouts with him and I was like,
I'm just good being your friend. I don't need to
(10:18):
work out with you for us to be able to
say we're friends. I'll be okay over here, I do
think we can touch on the fact that Gobert. I
know this isn't exactly what you would to talk about, Jonnas,
but Jiebert is going to be suspended for a playing game.
It's kind of an interesting move by the t Wolves
coaching staff or maybe even front office to make this decision.
(10:39):
Well I don't know about tanking, but like, oh oh,
I'm sorry. You're setting a precedent, right, Like you're basically saying, look,
we're not gonna like this is one of those moments
I think in sports where your you create culture and
to your point, Leavar like a very well could impact
their opportunity to obviously move on to the playoffs, but
if anything else ever happens like this again, they're saying precedent,
(11:00):
We're like, look, we're not We're not We're not handling
this moving forward. And I think the other interesting thing
is you know their their ownerships group's going to change.
You know, a Rod is eventually going to be a
majority owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves. You know he set
himself up to be that, and now I wonder how
much influence he has on that, you know, that decision too,
to set the precedent now that like this is not
(11:22):
something that you know, we're going to allow to happen
and represent the Minnesota Timber Bowls. Our organization is when
you guys are out there fighting with one another. I mean,
so you're you know, your most important defender is now
suspended for what is a one and done game. I
just I think from an organizational standpoint, it feels like
they're trying to send a message, whether it's for this
(11:43):
year's team or what about What message was Jayden McDaniels
trying to send to that wall when he punched it
now and now he's trying to show him whose boss,
and it you know, backfired on him a little bit,
you know. So he tried, he tried to hit the
wall with a scorpion come here. Lesson learned then he
realized that the wall just wasn't you know, it just
wasn't going to cooperate. I do wonder though, if Minnesota
(12:06):
suspends Rudy Gobert, if this is the nine ten matchup
and not the seven eight, because if they lose this,
they still have an opportunity to play the winner of
the nine ten to get into the eighth seed. If
this was a nine ten winner take all or winner
you know, stays alive and the other one goes home.
I wonder if they would have suspended Rudy Gobert. That's
what I wonder, because I think they do it regardless,
(12:27):
because you don't even give yourself the opportunity to get
to that next game. Yeah, but they could justify it
by saying, listen, he didn't hit him in the face.
It was a solar plex shot, and clearly he needs
to work on his stand up and then correct, and
then you could let him play that nine ten matchup
and go, we've talked to him, we've addressed this internally.
There's been an undisclosed fine, and then we're gonna move
(12:49):
on because they've got not even have to say I've disclose.
You could disclose that fine and say we we we
heavily fined team like that that will not be tolerated,
and go for them. There. I agree, Jonas, I agree
with you. They TANKI so well, I mean, well he
(13:09):
is gonna be I mean they're eight point underdogs, so
they're gonna lose to the Lakers. By the way, Lebron
gets another break, so congratulations, the Lakers get all the
breaks in the world. Just continues on there. But they
are gonna you know, they'll play the nine ten winner
and then that team will get the eight seed and
get to be eliminated in five games in the first round.
But you know, it is interesting not to like touch
(13:31):
on the Lakers now as we're kind of highlight this matchup.
I mean, the original Lakers team that Lebron built was
going nowhere, and I don't know if you want to
give Rob Polinka credit for the moves he made, and
obviously the trade of Russell Westbrook where they got back
in return with D'angela, Russell and Beasley, but it turned
on their entire season. I mean, at one point, you know,
(13:54):
Lebron had an injury that we thought he was going
to make it back, and then because he's Lebron and
he's got super you know, power, healing, you know abilities,
he's able to come back now and play with a
team that seems to have chemistry and be jelling and
now sets itself up to maybe be able to make
a run, especially with the current circumstances and where they're at.
So it is like when I look at the success
(14:16):
Lebron's had, you know, you go back to Miami, that
team was set up by pat Riley. You know, you
now look at the Lakers and if they are able
to go on a run and win it this year,
you know, it's in large part due to other people
around him helping to construct a team that allows them
to be successful. Yeah. I think he's you know, the
years that where he hasn't been successful in large part.
(14:37):
I think it's because he's meddled sometimes and trying to
make some of those front office decisions, and I just
I never feel like that works out for players, So
like every time they do it, it ends up blown
up back in their face. Are you taking a shot
at Lebron James in Ohio alum same class as you,
Brady Quinn? Are you trying to say that Lebron James
is a bad GM? Is that what you're trying to say?
(14:59):
Metal He's not a gem? And I just feel like
that's probably better off now until the day he becomes one,
which I'm sure he's got that in his future. He
should just focus on, you know, being the best teammate
and basketball player he can be, which he's the best
in the world right now what he wants to be.
So that's all I'm saying is I just feel like
(15:20):
when you look through the history of when they tried
to construct a team hasn't really worked out. I think
the way he had hoped, or at least not to
the amount of success. You know, he has hoped. It's
two prosy. I know, we got to go to break
But he said meddling. And you know, the first thing
I thought about when he said meddling, What cartoon did
(15:40):
you think about to bring up a cartoon to memory now?
Oh no, it would have been Scooby Doo. Every single
time they caught like what seemingly was a monster or
a ghost, and at the end they would take the
hat off and they'd be like, oh, it was mister
(16:02):
such as such. And he was like, I almost got
away with it, And I would have if it weren't
for you, meddling kids. That's true. He used to always
say that that's Scooby right there. By the way, you're member, Lee,
Am I right? Helee? Yeah, am I right? Lee? Of course, Hey,
by the way, I would have been able to do
it if it hadn't been for you meddling kids. By
(16:24):
the way, let's go live too. Are I have an
update on Kareem abdul Jabbar and Bruce Lee, who's his
tall as Kareem's kneecaps inside lead to laugh for the
latest Lee Well, of course, I mean if you guys
have seen the footage from that from the last movie
Bruce Lee was filming, which was Game of Death that
he wrote and directed, where he was fighting Kareem abdul
Jabbar right in his famous yellow jumpsuit. Yeah, means that's
when they were training together, when they were training, yeah,
(16:46):
for the movie Game of Death. Yeah. Yeah, them kicks
was crazy too. Kareem abdul Jabbar's kicks were crazy. My
My whole thing is, and I've seen that those that
that movie, I believe. I'm pretty certain I've seen the
movie or the clips whatever it was. But Kareem was
kicking the hell out of Bruce Lee. And my whole
(17:06):
thing is, if he's that big and he's kicking a
dude that's small. If Kareem ain't kicking Bruce Lee into
the walls every single time he kicks him, something right, Yeah,
I'm just saying it's gifted as Bruce Lee was, and
I know he could turn his whole body into one
muscle and all this old other stuff. But you seven
foot and if you see that movie a young Kareem
(17:29):
at that point, his legs were jacked like he was
he was ripped up, and he was just kicking him
like like it looked like they were ankle kicks, but
he was like kicking him in the head, you know
what I mean. Like that's how much taller he is
than than what it was than Bruce Lee, like it was.
He just should have been kicking him way like he
should have been kicking him out of the frame. Yeah, anyway,
(17:51):
go ahead, I'm sorry now doesn't seem right. Medling kids,
all right, So coming up next here from the Tirac
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potential trade that could be happening very very soon in
the NFL. And no it's not the one that you've
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You Out as we close up shop here on a
Tuesday morning. So again a little over twenty minutes from now.
For that, let's get into some NFL conversation, if you will,
because we've got some speculation out there, some rumblings about
a potential trade in the NFL Draft, because, according to
Adam Schefter of Ess Hungry Stop, at least six teams,
(19:00):
according to Schefter, have inquired with the Arizona Cardinals about
moving up to number three. Now, my assumption would be
those are teams that are interested in taking a eight quarterback.
There at three teams, you think, okay, well, let's I
would say the Raiders, Well, hold on, let's just go
buy the closest in proximity to them, right, Well, what
would you think the Colts? Yes, the Colts at four
(19:22):
up Seattle maybe at five, yes, yeah, absolutely, say Detroit
at six. No, I don't think Detroit. I don't know
you're gonna have a hard time getting to six then,
because we've got two right now. So let's say no,
one Detroit. Let's keep counting Las Vegas at seven. Absolutely, okay,
Atlanta at eight, atlant at eight, not Chicago at nine,
(19:45):
not Philly at ten, Tennessee at eleven, Tennessee, Yeah, okay,
that's five. Who's the other ten? The Texans at twelve?
The Texans are drafting? Well, yeah, so you can't include
the Texans. Why can't you? Because they're already there, You're
(20:09):
already gonna take Okay, let's let's assume though that. Yeah,
the idea that they're not going to take a quarterback
at two and then try to find their guy at
twelve is a huge risk and to me, not really
worth it if on the Texans, Like, I think, that's
where you know, the running is already on the wall
for Nickossaria. So that's how I would view New England
(20:29):
at fourteen. That's an interesting one. I mean, we can
go back to Detroit at six if you want, because
it's not like Jared Goff has that much left on
his current contract. It's not like Jared Goff is that
type of player where you're gonna be like, ah, we
don't need to take a guy. And if there's a
guy the name of Jared Goff after I'm not trying
(20:50):
to shame him. I'm not, I promise. I just don't
think why would you pass up on? I mean, think
about Las Vegas got Garoppolo. Yeah, they're looking to get
a quarterback. Now, hold on for a second. In regards
to Goff, he has two years left on his deal.
You know, his dead cap hit would be if they
did draft a quarterback and just wanted to cut him
(21:11):
and move on. What's that? Oh that's too high. No,
it's not, because you could do a post June one
designation and cut that in half over the next time.
Oh well then if you could. And here's the other
thing that people have to take into account. So Minnesota
is another team that could potentially be looking to take
a quarterback, but they're not trading from what twenty two,
(21:33):
twenty three wherever they're at to three. But that's a
team that you have cousins under his contract in his
final year. Now he's got voidable years after it, which
all that really means is they spread out obviously a
portion of the bonus for accounting purposes. But this is
his last year in Minnesota. They didn't extend him. They
can't cut him because the dead cap is so significant.
(21:55):
But it's it's become it's become really common now, and
it goes back to Drew Brees towards the end of
his career. Teams will put on avoidable years, meaning years
where they're spreading over the port and they paid out
in a bonus right, and so it hits future cap
years for two or three years maybe and after the
guy's gone, but the guy's no longer on the roster.
(22:15):
That's that's become a lot more common now than probably
ever before, especially with quarterbacks. So it's not that uncommon
to be paying for a guy who's not on your team, well,
you know, while you're moving on to another player at
that position, especially a rookie, it's a lot cheaper. There's
also the reality that the six teams at Schefter's reporting
on that have inquired about trading up to number three,
(22:37):
that maybe it's not really six. Maybe that's the Cardinals
who are full of crap, and maybe it's like more
like three or four, and they're trying to get other
other teams interested in somebody to pull the trigger at
number three if they really won that quin. But really,
in reality, one is enough. I mean, let's just be
quin two you need to but one is enough. Market.
You can create the market. But because because let me
(22:59):
ask you, if there was more than one team that
was actively involved right now, Faron Rodgers, yes, you can
run the value up one not the value, it just
it speeds up everything like the deal is getting done.
Otherwise the other team's gonna do it right. Yes, you
can always correct that, but but you could always play
the idea of Aaron Rodgers value being what it is
(23:21):
and it's solidified, and everybody plays by that rule like
his value is his value, this is what we want,
this is what we're going to give, and then it
works out. You know. I mean people posture, you know
what I mean, Like teams are going to posture. So
even if there's three teams involved or four teams involved,
they're still going to be posturing. That takes place. I mean,
(23:42):
that just is what it is. So I mean, you
just gotta have like you just have to have one
that is seriously interested and and that's what you gotta
You gotta really play on who you feel maybe and
especially if you do have the one, then you focus
in on how do you get that done? You know,
if there's more than one, then you sit there and
(24:04):
you can I guess you can allow for it to
play out and say, well, they're offering this, what are
you going to offer? Well, they're offering this. I mean,
I don't know how all of that works in terms
of negotiations with the draft trades. I mean, how outrageous
can you get? I mean, I know the whole Ricky
Williams or the hirschel Walker deal, But how ridiculous can
(24:25):
you really get in terms of trading out of a
high pick? Like is that stuff kind of slotted to?
Is there a value like almost like a fixed market value?
A number two overall pick? This is what you should expect? Like,
how does that even work? Do you? Are you aware
of that? Yeah? I mean you, yeah, you've got your
your you know if you're referring to like trading up
(24:47):
in the drafts or what a specific are your meany? Yeah? Yeah?
So so say, for instance, you're at the number two pick, right,
number three pick, number three pick you want to give
you want to trade that pick away, like they were
a set value to what that pick has, Like we
get a number one pick, and this year's draft we
get a number one pick, and next year's draft we
(25:09):
get two overall, Like is that slotted? Yeah, we talked
about this yesterday. So there's essentially a chart that for
every single pick in the draft there's an assigned value.
So for the first pick of the draft, the values
assigned a three thousand points. For the very last pick,
it's two points. And every draft, every team has their
(25:30):
own draft value that they associate. This is based off
Jimmy Johnson's that used to be what the you know,
in the NFL industry, everyone used, right because it made
trading picks a lot faster. So you call up a team,
they're using the same draft chart. You guys obviously are
looking at. The values for each pick is the same.
It makes a lot easier. And so if you're at
(25:51):
the number like three pick in this point and it's
twenty two hundred points and you're the Minnesota Vikings who
are selecting at what twenty three, twenty two something like that, John,
let me double check. Yeah, it's it's it's seven, seven
hundred and eighty points, seven and sixty points. So if
you're the Cardinals, you're like, all right, go ahead and
give me that first round pick later in the draft.
(26:11):
But now you've got to come up with another fourteen
hundred approximate points at least to make up for the
difference for the Vikings. Yeah, twenty four, okay, so seven forty,
So you know you've got to come up with eighteen
what is it, eighteen hundred points? Excuse me? Was it
like fourteen hundred points? Yeah, approximately of what you would
(26:32):
need in order to make up for the difference in
you know, going from three to twenty four. And what
are their conversations there? So the interesting thing becomes when
you mentioned future picks. Teams look at future picks and
they value them around less than what they are. So
let's say, for example, you know, Leavar, you're trading with
(26:52):
me and you say, hey, i'll give you next year's
second round pick. Well, we don't really know what exactly
that's going to be. And so the safest way or
the most conservative way to make an assumption on where
that would be right. Let's say, in a perfect draft,
because this year is not like this, you got thirty
two picks in the first round, thirty two picks in
the second round, so you would say conservatively, well, you know,
(27:14):
we're probably picking somewhere around sixty four, right, we can
bet on that. But what teams really do is they say,
we're going to view that as a third round pick,
so that's how we value it. So any future pick,
it's around less than what it's actually stated as, at
least in the minds of the teams when they're trading picks.
Right now. God, it was so much simpler when the
(27:35):
Saints just traded up all that draft capital to take
Ricky Williams and then he showed up on the cover
of a magazine in a wedding dress. There's just so
much What do you mean it was the draft right
before me? Well, that trade was the reason why Washington
got the two and three picks. Really, so, Ricky williams
wedding dress is the reason you're a commando. Yeah, don't
(27:59):
you think if you're a Dick Kell, You're like, what
the hell am I doing? Right? They should have but hey,
Ricky Williams had a good career. I mean, I know
it was a little bit strange, but if you go back,
I think he's he's part of the ten thousand yard club.
I'm not mistaken. Definitely had a good career yet just
very kind of a lot of twists and turns there.
But when he got to Miami he was really good.
(28:19):
So actually I think he was on the Baltimore Ravens
team that lost in the playoffs to the Patriots, and
then the year after they won the Super Bowl. So
I remember seeing that and he was actually on the
field as a photographer actually filming the Venns. No, the
Ravens winning the Super Bowl against San Francisco. So that
(28:42):
was I remember that back in the day. Just copious
research here, that's what I do. Cosy Brady called me
years ago. He said, you know, I'm gonna start calling
you show prep Jesus like, that's what he called. You
didn't say that. I could have sworn you said that. Yeah,
I've actually called the question. How during a show you
will say things that you don't think through and then
it just falls apart on live air. No, No, no no,
(29:06):
it's it's not really that. It's just you. You just
on the you know, in a moment's notice, you just, oh,
I get an idea, I'm gonna talk about this. Didn't
think it through. Yeah, but that's the fun stuff though. Yeah. Yeah.
And then like if somebody calls me out and I'll
just say I never said it, it's called accountability. Yes,
like saying, for example, if Tony Romo makes over what
ten million dollars, you're gonna sex change And I never
said that. I never said that on the air. I've
(29:27):
never said that on the air. Then to provide the
proof if I actually said that, as a broadcast professional,
Tony Romo gets ten million dollars a year, I'm getting
a sex change. Wow. I mean it's it's it's it's
now kind of widely acceptable. So yeah, it does, go
ahead and do it. You don't even have to make
a bet. You don't even have to pi up your
(29:48):
bet anymore. Jonas. You know, the thing is, why is
it that part of the open for our show? You know,
why why is it whatever Jonas is says in the open?
Why isn't that what we're leading the show? Because I'm
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Do you ever have a syrup sandwich? Too much sugar?
What a lot of sugar? I call it French toast
if you ask me, Oh, you know, it's just meat though, Yeah,
I hear you. Man. Roberto that is one of the
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(32:18):
it's too soft, you know, was an American toast or
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shoe What you enough? If they're in, h please four?
If they're out, all right, leave the lab. What do
we got guys? Roberto was talking about talking crap on
(33:23):
the French start this hour might not be the best
day to do it, because it's it's poutine day. Poutine,
the famous dish from Quebec, French Quebec good hat poutine.
What is poutine? Poutine? It's like gravy on top of fries.
Yeah that's good. Oh yeah, that is good. That seems good.
(33:43):
It is good poutine. Thank you appreciate it. So I'll
go ahead and sit this one out. I'm all in
on the poutine. Yeah. What do you want us to
do when you don't eat food and we're talking about
foods out? I said, I was gonna sit this one out.
I know. Why are you're talking to me? Talk to
the bar so you're at We'ready says he's really into
the pootine. Why are you gonna bring me into it?
(34:05):
What I said, I'm into the pootin' s right, I'm
into the pot I'm into the pootin. I'm into the
I really love me some pootine. Yeah, I know, I'm
more of a I'm more of a protest right there
with you, not really pootine protein for me. You guys
like chili cheese fries. I'm a chi chili cheese fries. Yeah,
(34:26):
which would you rather be in on? But which would
you rather be in on? The pootine or? Um, Tommy's
Tommy's not even close? Yeah, um, I don't studio holding up?
Please flash on, Ali? Did you have chili cheese fries?
And I just said, yeah, I had yesterday a little
(34:47):
some schnitzel. I mean you would notice snitzel. You should
have been able to notice this. Remember he's been uh
you haven't even walked outside yet. Yeah, I don't know
what my best behavior today? Baked beans the day before
that was pretty bad. Oh no, you went in baked
beans and chile on back to back days. Yeah, who
(35:08):
are you punishing? Like? What is this happen? Bang? Godly,
poor Todd. That's like, that's two scoops of nothing. So
I was sleeping on the couch. What are you gonna
have to pay? Indian Food air League? All right, that's funny.
(35:30):
That's my my grandmom's name. Actually, anyways, Arie League grabs
she's she's passed away. She's not here. Any top shots
out to you up top? You know, Okay, go ahead, guys.
It's the start of the play in tournament. As we
talked about earlier. In the three years of the play
in existence, either as a one game format in twenty
(35:52):
twenty or multi game brackets starting twenty twenty one, not
a single team has made it out and won the
first round of the playoff series. Are you in her
out on playing tournament? I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
I got a reason to watch now. Someone's going home tonight.
He's appointment television in that regard, So I'm I'm in.
It's just a rip off. It's a rip off of
(36:14):
the first four game in college basketball. It's more unoriginal
scheduling by the NBA. It's just what are they going
to do next? Change the NBA Finals to Super Bowl?
I mean, this is all they do. They just copy
whatever other leagues do that are successful and try and
pretend it's their own. They expand their playoffs to this
faster than the NFL did with their seventh team they added. Yeah,
(36:36):
but I'm talking about college basketball. I know, but you
mentioned the Super Bowl and the NBA ripping off other stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
for the NBA made the first move with expanded Well,
it was just it was a comp to what their
championship is called gotch But thank you, thank for breaking
that down again. I'll sit this one out too, the
all right, go ahead, le guys. If you have an Instagram,
you probably know of the super bloom. If you don't
(36:57):
know what super bloom is, it's the term given to
the above average number of blooms in the desert wildflowers. Uh,
you know, when all the beautiful flowers bloom in the
desert here in southern California. Are you in or out
taking those Instagram photos for your significant other out? Well? Yeah,
or a superloom season itself, you know. I mean I
(37:19):
do have a little bit of understand what the questions out. Yeah,
it's when all the girls now it was in the flowers,
and you get are you in? Is that why you
brought the We're all out? But I'm out, I'm out.
I mean now, I happen to be a bit of
a green thumb, all right. I did just plant some
stuff at my house last week. But I don't go
on Instagram to post photos or anything like that, so
(37:40):
I don't really, I'm out. It's not my thing. No,
it's more of an Ohio thing. Always putting end to
that at the beginning of a relationship. Not gonna take photos. Yeah,
I'll take photos and instagram them. Fries and gravy. Baby
you got you got another one, lady? Sure, one last one.
I don't know if you guys are Stranger Things fans,
(38:01):
but they have announced that they're doing an animated spinoff
on Netflix. You in or out on that. Stop always
trying to like take something that's great and make it
into something more. Oh ut, appreciate it for what it
is exactly. Te outo o ut out Hey J Yeah,
(38:23):
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