April 17, 2023 • 41 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar Arrington shares stores from his weekend at College Station. The 1st round of the NB playoffs was plagued by injuries to a number of stars. The NFL doesn’t invite TCU WR Quentin Johnston to Kansas City in order to spare him embarrassment if he falls in the draft and Brady talks about how to incentivize players to attend. Arch Manning is already off to a bad start at Texas, but he’ll get his shot down the line.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar Arrington, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
Box Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So there was a little bit of a I don't
know if we can call it a world tour, but
a Northeastern tour, the LeVar Express uh m hm.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
LeVar Islands, Baby, Var Allen, that is a place too.
You don't want to venture there too often though. Stick
City is a cool place to go any day, you know,
But LeVar Allen, that's that's a well, that's a that's
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a different Uh, that's a different approach.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
How did Penn State look in the spring game?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I didn't go, do you I didn't go to the game.
Oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait. I thought that was
the whole purpose or one of the biggest amount You're
going out there. No, So you know, I do do
a ton of work. I told you guys. I do
stuff with first responders and small businesses. So the reason
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why I was there, the real reason why I was
there was we were kicking off a campaign for the
fire departments, and so we raised money. We create awareness
around the understanding that volunteer fire departments need a ton
of help from the residents and from the businesses, because
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if you don't have them then you know, we all
know what that leads to when you need someone in
an emergency situation. So anyway, I was there raising awareness
on just how much money it costs for a fire
department to run. And this is our second year actually
doing it, so that was the real reason why I
was there. It just happened to fall, you know the
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schedule makers. That just happened to fall on Blue White weekend,
so there was a little rain. There was a little
rain Saturday morning, and plus I had to do my
radio show, so my radio show ran all the way
up until the kickoff game. Yes, yeah, so it was
a good show this yeah too, but uh so, so
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it was raining. I finished up and I was like,
I'm LeVar Islands goes with it.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's like, let's go LeVar isl in it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And and that's I just watched it on the Big
ten Network while I was at the bar with friends,
so I did see the game, just not in person.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And by the way, I realized that was a stupid
question for me to ask after the fact.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I probably should have thought that went through.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
But it's you know, more fun to not think it
through sometimes, does anybody ever look bad during a spring game?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You cannot look impressive?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, you cannot look how so you can't how it
compat of that game.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
It could be set up for you to succeed and
you cannot succeed.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I mean all you got to do is throw
the ball or run the ball, like we had a
guy fumble. I think like you could do things like
make mistakes that could not be you know, favorable in
terms of what your your public reception and kind of
reputation could be, you know what I mean, So you
can make a splash, you know, like I know, for me,
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just thinking back to my spring games. My first spring game,
I was you know, obviously had a reputation anyway, but
that this was supposed to be the year that I
was able to take over the starting job and I
still wasn't starting. So I was on the second team.
You have a first team and a second team going
into the spring game. So I was on the second
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team defense and I was just trying to knock everybody
to f out, like literally body slamming dudes clothes. They
took me out pretty quick, but everybody was you know,
they walked away like that's the guy. And I wasn't
even on the starting team. So you can. You can
make a name, but you can miss too, You definitely
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can miss.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, but our team looks pretty good, man, I know
I've been saying it. I spent a lot of time
with our athletic director as well while I was there
on some some other affairs. I tell you what, Pat
Craft is a pretty impressive dude, man, justify. He's pretty
crafty to to say the least. Yeah, it's no pun intended,
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pun intended, it's pretty crafty, dude. I think I'm still tipsy, y'all.
So anyway, the bottom line is it's it's it's a
changing culture.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It's an evolving culture in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It's funny because it's almost like it's almost like politics,
and in a sense it's blue versus red, and in
state college and in the Penn State community, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Literally like very much that. But it seems to be.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
A progressively evolving type of culture there, and it's it's
pretty exciting. Drew Aller is the deal, man. Yeah, he's
the deal. I'm telling you, dude. He looks kind of
like Ben Ben Roethlisberger. Like that's who he reminds me of,
but a little more like refined.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
You know, Big Ben was just a really good athlete
when it was when he was coming out of Findley,
Ohio to My Ohio and a bit raw and maybe
always kind of played that way to a degree. I mean,
all these kids, I feel like are more refined now.
But that's who he reminds me. He's big, he's athletic,
he's got a good arm. I mean it's he's this
tole package man. He's got a good personality about, good
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demeanor too. Like he's got that very like calm settle
way about him.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Like he just just the way he looks. He's just
got the look he just oozes. Like franchise. I don't
think we've had a franchise QB since Carry Collins. You know,
I love Trace I love uh Man. What what was
my guy's name? Se I love Cliff cliff Dog. I
hung out with Cliff Dog. Not mcglowing, not glowing, Like,
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what was my guy? He was a UA All American.
I'm blanking on his name right now. He was with O'Brien.
He was with O'Brien. Oh Hackenberg's Hackenberg. There you go.
Hackenberg had a chance, a dog. Hack had a chance.
He had a chance. I think he was let down
by the offense. Well before then, get in a line, right, yeah,
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before then, the Jets have led a.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Lot of guys. Ye, speaking of not Gin get off
with a narrative. It is always funny to talk about
this time of year. You get like all these front
office guys who are like, well, you know, it should
work out unless the guy's bust. And I'm like, how
do how do we like, how do we determine? Like
when everyone who drafts the guys go on in a
year or two, like will those guys bus like was
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the coach was the general manager of bust like the Jets.
For example, like Hackenberg got there, he didn't by the way,
he didn't have much protection. It's like final two or
three years at Penn State. They didn't do him any
much help to get into New York. He needed to
sit and he needed to learn, which never ultimately really
worked out for him.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
But the same thing with Donald to.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
A degree, Like Donald had things he needed to work on,
yet you know he was He's thrust it right in
right away to play and you just go, oh, well,
that guy's a bus It's like, well, no, it's just
maybe your organization stinks. Maybe maybe it's your organization, your
inability for an owner or anyone in the organization to
be able to make it work.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Maybe the Jets busted. Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Though, Well, that's the thing is, like, no fan base
will ever look at the organization. They'll just blame the player,
because you can get rid of a player, you can't
get rid of the team, which you don't want to
get rid of your team.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You want to get your team beway.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
But it's funny because it's a word that's thrown around
by like draft analysts people and folks.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
No such thing well, and such thing as people who
were in the front office.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
And so the funny thing about people who are part
of these draft groups.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And I don't care what we.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Want to talk, I'm talking about all of them, guys
I work with, guys I don't I'm talking specifically to
all of them, all right. The funny thing about him
is you're in the front office, so they make a pick,
and they might be putting that kid into a bad spot.
He doesn't fit this game, doesn't fit, you know, what
they do, or they're with a coach that doesn't even
develop him or doesn't and doesn't want to even do
any of that.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, you just have a different scheme every year. Well
there's that too, different in your room every year.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
There's so many nuances that make a football play work
that when we step back from looking at football in
that respect, we then don't go, oh, no, the player
just didn't work out, you know, like like there wasn't
anything else that was going on, the fact that the
whole front office got fired, or they coaching staff got
fired everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Or they didn't know what they were doing right, one
or two just didn't know what they were doing. I mean,
would some guys be incoherent? Man, I'd be like, how's
this guy still coaching?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Man?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Like I remember one time, man, when Joe Gibbs came back,
that joint was like the return of Cocoon.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh god, it was dudes out there in wheelchairs, walkers
like the dudes with dementia, all kinds of stuff, man,
just out there.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Coaching, dentures in mouthpieces, dentures.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
All kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Man, Like, got the old gang back, got to get
this w return of the hogs.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Like, man, if y'all don't go sit somewhere with your
jaritol and.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Play some backgammon, man like, you don't if you don't
let somebody else coach this team. Yeah, dudes, their ligaments
were so stretched out they was both They gave new
meaning to bow legg it. That'd be like a couple
man like, this is our coaching staff, all right here, okay,
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alrighty yeah. I had one dude couldn't even lift his
head up. It was down, shut hook hand down.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
He s hey.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
By the way, speaking of hand down, man down, what
did you guys think of the opening weekend of the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I gotta ask you real quick.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I thought it was entertaining.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Man, I'm not an injury.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I'm big on it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
There were yeah, injuries.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Main dudes, all that it might be the same dudes.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, John Morans banged up, he's got a hand. He's honest,
he's not optimistic. Yannis Tyler hero even think a little
managing the regular season?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Yeah right, yeah, why Leonard?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But got these guy's got more rest of this season?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Kawhi, Leonard looking at everybody laughing, got my my points, bitches,
little management.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I'm ready to go Clip City. Hey LeVar, you don't
like the.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Under the under the uniform like rib protectors and back
and all that. Yeah, like the basketball players wear that
now too, Yeah they do.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
They wear like a whole outfit to protect like back
in the day they weren't wearing that.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
And it's just it's funny to me that guys get
so banged up in today's game.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
You're going you guys can't hand check.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
It's not even close to us physical and you were
in more padding than you had before and you're taking
off more time in the regular season to prepare for this,
but you're still getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
They were showing I saw somebody like there.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I didn't see the video, but they tweeted it out
like things are getting chippy between the Tea Wolves and
the Nuggets, and I'm thinking, oh, we're gonna have a
nice little Donnybrook. There was nothing like somebody went down
to the ground, things got separated.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
And next thing you know that that was it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And people tried to play it up like it's do
all of it's playoff time. This is the most physical
time of year, and this is when things are gonna
get hippy. Wait a second, nothing happened. There was no brawl.
I remember Bulls Knicks back in the day. Was it, uh,
Derek Harper and Jojo English or somebody like that.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Order each other.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, And and you had Stern sitting the commissioner of
the NBA was sitting like two.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Roses and Scottie Pippen and Nixon Bulls.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
No.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But it wasn't Scottie Pippen. It was God, I want
to say, I want to say it was Joe Jo.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You know who it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
They got, they got real tippy.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That is the the the early look at weekend one
of the NBA playoffs here on two pros and.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It was competitive though honestly, on a serious note, it
was good.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It was a good watch.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, it was fine.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I mean the Lakers pulled it out against the Grizzlies.
It could have gotten interesting with them, and I mean,
you know, looking at all the other games, I.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Mean, dude, little Reeves is good.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
He's making a statement. You know, I didn't think he'd be.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
The standout player on that roster, but hold him through, Ye,
Jimmy Butler pulled him through playoff, Jimmy like the King,
surprising the Warriors the Sun's letting the.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Clips, I mean, letting the clips do it.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They come on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean, you know, I was expecting a little more
from Brady's Cavaliers.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But you know, I mean that was that was That
was a shocker too.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I mean, but so is Jaylen Brunson. Like no one
thought he was gonna be as good of a player
as he is.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Meanwhile, the MAVs are sitting, you know, sitting everybody out
except Luca for thirteen minutes on Slovenian Night, just so
they can protect their top ten pick. Jalen Brunson's in
New York playing in the postseason winning.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
By the way, how many teams had Slovenia.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
You don't know he has.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Well, it's a special night for the MAVs though.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah, very special.
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Speaker 2 (14:08):
So, the NFL Draft is coming up in a couple
of weeks from now from Kansas City, and you're going
to have seventeen prospects reportedly on hand at the NFL Draft.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Waiting to hear their name called.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But one that will not be there, apparently is Quintin Johnston,
the stud wide receiver out of TCU. The report is
the NFL wants to avoid and need an embarrassing moment
for him if he happens to wait a little bit
longer than anybody else or who knows happens to know,
wait until day two of the draft if that were
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the case. So they have decided to go ahead and
not invite Quintin Johnston from TCU. He will not be
one of the seventeen on hand at the NFL Draft,
so Lisa are looking out for his well being.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
So there's that little TCU update for you.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
The interesting thing is how would they know? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
How would they?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Always wondered that? How do you invite who you're inviting?
I always wonder at that.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Which which again, like if you're looking at it from
this standpoint, a lot of people had Quinn Johnston, and
if you look at all the mock drafts or even
some of the prognosticators out there, people who do this
for a living, they've got them rated as a top three,
top four wide receiver. At a bear minimum, right, I
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guess at the worst. So it's a bit surprising that
the NFL would would make this claim because there's only
one wide receiver from the people that I've talked to
with teams that have kind of just looked the other
way on what happened this past season.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's Jackson Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Everyone feels like as far as the skill set roulet
running ability, he's fast enough. They have no concerns about
the fact that he missed the entire season basically off
a soft tissue injury. They only a lot of teams
only view him as the first round guy, or at
least I have only had him as a first round great
on him. So if that's the case, why would you
invite Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison who are also invited
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along with Jackson Smith and jig But I believe that
have accepted the invite I mean, are you subjecting them
to the same thing. So unless the NFL somehow already
has a really good idea of where some of these
teams are going, which seems nearly impossible because it's not
like they're going to disclose that with the league and
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then have that not get around other teams or not
leak out potentially, There's just so many things that can happen.
And you also don't know if teams trade day off.
You know, those scenarios are circumstances don't present themselves until
the draft happens and teams are under the clock and
then stuff starts happening, so they would not be able
to know. I mean, look, I hadn't met with a
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team outside the top ten. I getting taken at the
twenty second pick, and I remember it was the year after,
or maybe it was two years after or but the
NFL brought me in league offices there at Park Avenue
and we talked for a while about what they could
do to try to entice players to want to come
to the draft, and I just flat outside. I said, look,
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for me, it was more of a you know, a
personal thing. Some of my family had never been to
New York, that probably will never go back to New York.
It was just like a once in a lifetime experience.
And I full well knew that, you know, there was
the chance of that happening. A lot of guys have
agents who convince them otherwise, or a lot of guys
put in their head that they're not going to drop
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or they should be taken, you know, in a certain spot.
And instead of like focusing so much on that, they
don't look at it, say it's just a starting point,
which is all it really is. It's just a starting
point for your you know, journey in the league and
hopefully you go to a good franchise and organization that
knows what they're doing. And and so they said, well,
what can we do to get more guys to come
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in here?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I said, well, there's two things.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
I mean. The first is you got to incentivize them.
Like a lot of times the league will have these
guys come and they won't have them with any money
making opportunities. So if you're not financially incentivizing them, imagine
the costs that's associated with their entire family coming into
New York for the draft. Like you got to comp
them some hotel rooms, some travel, some all this stuff
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to take care of not just them, but they're family
and all the other people who want to be a
part or have been a part of this process the
entire way. Like you got to hook them up a
little bit and maybe even find them a league sponsor
for on of these marketing deals so they get a
little money in their pocket. Like, that's the first thing
to me. And then the last thing is really just
you know, and it's hard to control it, but you know,
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you've got to make sure they're informed and they're aware
of what may take place. And as long as you
go around, you know, trying to you know, helping to
craft the narrative, which the league has the power to do.
With the teams that have the rights to the draft,
you know, they're not going to like they're constantly you know,
on camera constantly a part of that. Now, some of
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that's just again it's part of the situation in the conversation.
You know, mel Kiper's not going to shy away from
a guy that he thinks should be drafted higher or
maybe in the first round. It's part of the drama
of the draft. There's nothing better than that. So that's
the odd thing is, you know, I don't know why
the NFL would take the stance on a player that
seemingly looks to be one of the top receivers in
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this draft. And also it plays into the drama that
is the draft. I mean, I guess they can film
him wherever he's at, but it makes for a better
case if he's in Kansas City and they have the
opportunity to see him there live, like that's part of it,
is them putting you on camera and and people just
watching his picks go by and you're not getting picked.
It's how it was for Aaron's how was for me.
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It's hell was for a lot of other people who
are in that spot. That's what creates some of the
intrigue to it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I'll just get this feeling that the organizations have to
the organizations have to probably give probably give a list
of who they're planning on taking. There has to be
some way of knowing, you think, so there has to
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be type.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Don't they try and keep everything?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't well, I don't think that they I don't
think that they have to take like that. I don't
think it's a we're taking this one with our first
our first pick, because they if that person may not
be there. And I don't think that the NFL gets
involved in like, Okay, this team is looking at these
players and it's all disclosed to other teams. I just
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think that in order to be able to coordinate all
of the things that are coordinated around the NFL Draft.
There has to be a path forward, a plan understanding.
It's still production, it's still a it's it's and it
includes people.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
So I would I would. I would assume you gotta
put like, all right, for at least.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
For the first round, for the first round picks, you like,
here's your list, like, here's our list of who we're
planning on taking, and then I would assume you just
take what those names are, and the names that keep
popping up, you invite them, like, I'm not saying you're
saying you're like, again, I'm not saying there's a definitive
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we're taking this person with our first pick. I'm just saying,
these are the guys that we see going if we
had the opportunity we're taking right, there has to be something.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
There has to be some form of reference. It has
to be They.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Probably get like a consensus of the teams that have
first round grades on players. I think that's most likely
what it is. They they've got some assortment of teams
that have said, hey, these guys all first round grades,
and so it helps the NFL. Then in the process
of saying which guys do we want to put in
these spots where even if they doesn't like I think
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there's common logic with people on the outside that if
a team has a need, they're going to draft that
guy in the first round. Now, the problem with that
is most people on the outside don't understand how organizations
think they If they have an immediate need for a starter,
they're going to go find a veteran, and that veteran
might not always be a top veteran, you know, a
top paid veteran. It might be another guy they end
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up signing later on that they trust can come in
do the job and be the guy for a period
of time or even the first year while the rookie
gets his feed underneath them. Even sometimes with first round picks,
you know, they'll they'll want to work them into the
starting lineup or work them into being a pro before
they you know, just throw them out there. So a
lot of times the pick might not make sense to
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people on the outside. But they might have a guy
who's going into the final year of his contract and
they have to eventually replace him, and so they're drafting
his replacement.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But the point is this is.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
They'll get in a you know, an idea of who
those first round greted players are, and so they can
at least invite them, knowing that, hey, if so and
so team doesn't take them because it'd be a good fit,
it's a need for them. There's a couple teams behind
them to have a first round grade and up two
they might take them.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I would just be.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Highly concerned as an NFL team, knowing how the NFL
office leaks like a sieve when it comes to these
sorts of things, and wanting to supply them a list
of potential players that we take, knowing that you could
have some people who've got some connections to other teams
that leak that stuff out and that would obviously could
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be harmful to a trade scenario, to certain teams picking
certain players, that would be incredibly frustrating. So even that
list I provide, I don't even know how accurate what
would be. Instead of providing them a list of you know, hey,
we've got first round grades on twenty guys, I might
provide them a list of forty. I say, hey, we
have a list of forty guys we have first round
(23:53):
grades on this year, and let them figure out the
rest and they're okay, we got to work with another team. Then,
I mean, that's how I would handle it because I
wouldn't want to provide them anything. I still remember being
going to the NFL combine being on camera people asking
you know, hey.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Have you you ever smoked weed? You know, you ever
smoked the Old Greenwolf?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And I was I mean, I could answer it honestly,
I'd never done anything like that in my life. Still
have never smoked weed to this day. But there's other
players who did answer honestly, and it got out, like
literally we left the combine and it leaked out that
certain players in our draft class had smoked weed. I'm like, well,
there you go. Why would you trust anything with the
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NFL because it always gets out, there's always a leak
at some point.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's like remember when Darius Hayward Bay went number seven
to the Raiders. Nobody had him being a top ten pick,
Nobody had him going that high, and so he probably
didn't show up to the draft thinking well, there's no
chance that I'm going to be taken as high as
one of these guys that's going to be drafted, that
would walk up to the stage get his jersey et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
But he didn't even have the choice.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He didn't even have the option, and the Raiders went
ahead and made a pick for a guy that nobody
probably expected was going to be there. I would just
rather not take any chances. If a guy wants to
go and he's projected to be a top thirty or
a top forty pick, just let him go. And the
fact that they don't even cover the hotel room costs
for the families, I didn't know that. I thought that
was something that came with, Hey, how many people are
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you with?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
And it was a while ago, and so I think
they maybe do it for like two rooms or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Geez, come on.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
And that's where like when I when they asked me
to like consult, I basically said to them, look like,
you guys got to realize, you know, for a lot
of these guys, it's hard for them. It's gonna be
hard for them to overcome, you know, some of that
in their mind. And I think there's a lot of
guys who, you know, they get frustrated at their agent
because their agents tell them they're gonna drafted higher than
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they probably actually are. It's like so you know, you
have to kind of be the voice of reason if
you're presenting them this opportunity and just flat out say
to them, hey, if you don't get taken in this spot,
you know, like what we got you. You know, we'll
make sure to take care of you. But that's the
tough part. I think there's some players who want to go,
they want to have the experience regardless, you know, they
don't care as much, and there's some players who really
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do care.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
But either way, there has to be some incentivization.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
You can't just like say, here's the opportunity, you know,
come on down if you want. You got to provide
them with some chances to make some money off.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
This whole thing.
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Speaker 6 (27:10):
Rich give me a hell.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Yeah, we do have some bad news.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We have some bad news for many people out there
that were propping up the next great Manning quarterback in
the world of football, Arch Manning. We've been hearing NonStop
about arch Manning, all of these grainy videos that have
popped up of somebody holding a sideline cell phone and
just seeing Arch Manning dropping dimes against world class competition,
(27:36):
as you would be led to believe. And then all
of a sudden, the spring game for Texas pops up,
and well, not all that hot. Arch Manning was outplayed
by both quarterbacks in Texas, obviously Quinn Ewers, who was
the starter last year, and then you've also got Malik
Murphy who was the backup and he was competing with
(27:57):
arch Manning as well too. He outplayed arch Manning get
the spring game. There are some numbers and statistics to
go along with that, but it led Steve Sarkejian, the
head coach of the Texas Longhorns, to make the no
brainer choice that Quinn Yours is back at starting quarterback
for the Texas Longhorns. So the arch Manning hype train
hits a little bit of a bump in the road
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there for the Texas quarterback.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah. I mean, I think if you watched some of
the spring game, which I had the opportunity to see
some of it, you know, there's a few things that
stood out. Let me just say this in defense of
arch Manning. He didn't get much time or protection. You know,
he didn't force the ball throw it into harm's way,
and so that would have been one thing that I
think you had been really concerned by, only because of
his pedigree and you know, his coaching growing up, being
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that he's a Manning that if he was under duress
and he was putting the ball in bad spots and
turn the ball over a bunch, that would have been
a problem.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He didn't necessarily do that.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
It's just his stat line's not going to match what
Malik Murphy or what Quinn Ewers had, And that's okay.
He's he's a freshman, he's young, he's adapting to a
faster speed of the game, and it's going to take
him a little time. But I would be willing to
bet his learning curve is one that you know the
next time he's out and he's gonna get better, and
he's going to keep getting better from there. He's a
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better athlete than people, you know, give him credit. I
think one of the things I was tough watching his
high school film is he wasn't playing versus the best competition.
Like that was pretty apparent when you'd watch the clips. However,
you know, that doesn't mean he doesn't have a ton
of ability and he's not gonna be able to utilize
the guys around him. But what was on display was,
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you know, Quinn, you weres clearly who's been in the system.
Now it looks like he's in command of the offense.
And furthermore, he's just got a unique arm talent. There's
a reason why he was so highly rated. He could
change his arm angles. He's got a strong arm. He
cleaned up I thought some of his footwork. I know
that people have talked about his diet. He's eating better,
he's taking care of himself better. Those are all Those
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are all mature, good things you'd like to see of
a quarterback who's tried to be the first overall pick
in the future, which is what quinn Ewrs has the
ability to be. He reminds me of as far as
the arm ability of someone like Matt Stafford. You know
where he's got this really strong arm. He doesn't have
to necessarily always address his throats. He can just kind
of whip his arm around and sling that football. Who
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really stood out the most of is Malik Murphy. I mean,
he's got to extremely live arm, probably the strongest of
every quarterback on that roster. Dude, he's big and he's athletic.
He can move for that size. So you know, if
you're arch manning, it might be a while before you
get that opportunity to go in there and play. And
he's gonna have to be patient. And I think the
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tough thing is for Steve Sarkegian is you've got three
really capable quarterbacks and depending on how this whole thing
plays out, you're probably gonna lose one. And that's only
because everyone wants to play. They want to get in there,
they want to play, They're want to go in the NFL,
and so in order to do that, you know, they've
got to be able to have the opportunity in the REPS. So,
(31:02):
you know, for these guys are set on the bench anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
It's just it's not a reality.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
And with the transfer portal the way it's set up,
you know, in May it's actually open right now, they
moved to date up. It used to be from May
first to the fourteenth, I believe. Now it's April fifteenth
to the thirtieth, So I mean, guys are putting their
name in the portal now and trying to see what
other opportunities are out there. And then obviously it starts
to get in December through January, so it's it's going
to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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He's a big name because of the Manning last name,
and he's at a one of the blue bloods of
college football at the University of Texas, and it might
not be his time this year, but eventually there'll come
a time where he's going to be in that quarterback battle,
and we'll see how he competes against a guy like
Malig Murphy who's got, like I said, a ton of ability.
I mean you you talk about a guy who again
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looks to be the part and looks to be like
another first round prospect both viewers, but obviously Mlig Murphy
as well.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I would just I would just add when you have
three guys that are of elite level status at one college,
and yes, the sentiment that you're going to lose at
least one, you might lose two. But the idea of
it is is that when you have that type of talent,
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you have to you have to know and you have
to accept as a player sometimes that it's the competition
that that is going to make you national champs. Right Like,
if I don't have anybody that's any good that's behind me,
then how much better am I really going to get?
If I'm running one hundred meters against somebody, you know,
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against my teammates in practice and they can only run
an eleven flat. But we're going to have to get
to the Nines to be able to win a national title.
You know, somebody's got to be pushing each other to
be able to push to those numbers. And so sometimes
I feel like the transfer portal and sometimes even you know,
the popularity of recruits or the pressure on coaches doesn't
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really allow for the true development of that elite player,
you know. And then sometimes that whole the brand of
the player, like the Manning brand, is such a bohemoth
brand and to be there that amount of pressure, you
should be people should be applauding that that there are
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guys that are actually standing in and standing up to
the pressure of arch being there and not bowing down
to it, because in the end.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That's a lot of pressure to be under when when
knowing that, okay, he chose to come here and this
is who you have to compete against. So in some
instances I hope that these guys accept that it's okay
to have two three good elite quarterbacks on a roster.
You may need one one more in the initial you
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may need one more outside further out and take your turn.
Like I can recall, you can recall at all the
top programs. I mean, if you think about like back
when Florida State was Florida State, that was every position
and they weren't reloading, right, or they weren't rebuilding. They
were reloading. You think about notre dame. They weren't reloaded,
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or they weren't rebuilding, they were reloading. It was just
somebody was coming in at quarterback, at running back, at receiver,
at linebacker, at there was always someone and if somebody
got hurt, somebody else popped in and they blew up
because you knew that they.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Were good enough to be starting to begin with.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like there's something to be said about having an elite roster.
Like we've gotten so far away from talking about playing
your role and waiting your turn and earning your keep
because the transfer portal says that it's easy to just
walk away from a situation, a circumstance and instead of
growing the muscle, y'all talked about hacked squats and all
(35:05):
that stuff, instead of really forcing the muscle to grow.
Because you got a tear and rip and build and
all those different things, you're not putting any type of
pressure on yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Can I ask you guys a question though, as guys,
who were you know, six star recruits? You guys weren't
even five star, you were six stars. That's not sure,
six and a quarter. In fact, that was bar was
a five star. I was a four star. Well, they
didn't even have stars when I was coming.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I'm too old, you know what, Brady, You're a six
star to me.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
There you about that, I'll take.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
But the log jam at a position.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
So if you were arch Manning and you're looking at
Texas and you see Quinn yours is coming back, and
there was already a ton of hype about him and
where he was going to end up going. He had
showed a lot of promises past year. The game against Oklahoma,
he was fantastic, and then you see Malik Murphy him,
he was awesome.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah, like he got hurt, they would have beat Bama.
Hat he stayed healthy in that game.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Agreed and Milik Murphy who's six ' five what two
thirty and was he nineteen years old? So if you're
arch Manning, why would you go there? Well, why if
you wanted to play, why wouldn't you go somewhere else
where there wasn't a log jam?
Speaker 6 (36:12):
I think some of the tough thing for Arches you
might want to carve out his own way and at
least in the short term, you know, Texas will be
a part of the SEC they're currently not now. You know,
Eli went to Old Miss Peyton went to Tennessee, and
you kind of had all of that potential for him
to go to another SEC school, But you know, maybe
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he just felt like Austin was a better place for
him to grow and develop as an individual. Steve Sarkejian
being there as the head coach could have a lot
to do with it too. There's a number of things.
But I always tell kids, you know, make this more
than just about football. Make it more than just about
the head coach. The head coach will come and go
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even football if things don't work out, you get injured,
God forbid. You want to have at least a degree
to start building the foundation of what you're going to
be doing moving forward. You know, I was fortunate enough
to go to Notre Dame because I sure as hell
wouldn't have gotten in if I was just a normal
student there. And you surround yourself with so many, so
many incredibly bright, intelligent people, like one of the things
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I'm most jealous of.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
And I'll say this.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
To another buddy who played for Shoot twelve, thirteen, fourteen
years whatever it was, and he's like, man, he's like
some of these guys I talked to, like, I know
they went through their lumps early after they got done
playing and trying to figure out what they wanted to do,
but now they're on a career path or they're just
building from here. He's like, it's kind of tough as
an athlete sometimes where you leave and then you've got
to figure out like what's next. And honestly, like they're
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earning potential after you get out of the league, you're
probably never going to make the same type of money
the rest of your career, and so for a lot
of players, like they don't realize it. And I think
the hard thing about the transfer portal, just to bring this,
you know, full circle, is you got kids transferring who
don't care about their degree, they don't even care about finishing.
They're just trying to make sure they're eligible and they're
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trying and make sure they have a spot to go
play football somewhere. And that's great. I'm not trying to
deter anyone from their dream or getting an opportunity to
go play and finishing it out. But when it's all
said and done, like you still have to come back
and have a foundation and you still have to have
a network and the ability to go provide for yourself
and eventually for a family and all that. And when
you keep bouncing around school to school or you when
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you truly don't ever sign up and have any sort
of commitment to any school or anyone, it makes it
hard for you to do that once you get out
into the job market. So it's hard. I mean, look,
we could go on and on and on about this.
I mean, the NCAA just approved unlimited official and unofficial
visits like now, these kids can go as much as
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they want, however many times they want. And so for
people out there to understand, there's so many issues with this,
the first being the cost associated. So obviously, you only
have so many scholarships a year if you're a university,
and you can finagle that a little bit, but you know,
you're having a bunch of kids in on official visits
that aren't even probably possible to be there, and it
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costs the university a good amount. I mean, Georgia spend
four point six million this year just for their football
recruiting alone. I have no idea how much they spent
in other ways if you're catch my drill. But that's
just four point six million on the books. So imagine
everything else that went into nil efforts or other recruiting efforts,
and you know what I mean. But I'm just saying
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like it's I mean that amongst the fact that like
these staffs and these universities aren't built out to just
have an unlimited amount of visits. I mean, someone popped
in on an unofficial visit all of a sudden, you
got to make sure you're touring this kid around. I mean,
it's so so dumb and short sighted on the side
of the NCAA.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I have no idea what they're thinking.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
And furthermore, when you're supposed to be a governing body
that oversees all of this, would you think that if
you shouldn't be able to have an unlimited amount because
if a school was cheating, if they were providing improper
benefits and everything else that they shouldn't be doing. How
are you gonna have this robust department that's gonna be
able to check this or are you really gonna ask
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schools to be accountable when schools who have been accountable
in the past, you've brought down unfair punishment. I mean,
I really thought with the new president. When a Baker
I think is his name, the guy who's the governor
of Massachusetts, I really thought, okay, we might be headed
into better direction. He's got some friends in Congress. Maybe
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they'll create some federal legislation. If this is one of
your first moves and they're gonna oversee this. This is
one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. Like,
instead of like tightening things up and creating more boundaries
and restrictions, Yeah, it's like, oh, yeah, do whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Visit as much as you want. Someone's gonna pay for it.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
We don't know who. Like, And by the way, don't
worry if something wrong happens, we won't check either.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Like you won't get in trouble for it.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
It's like, hey, we're gonna make weed legal. And you know,
while we're at it, how about crystal math. You do
what you gotta do. Everybody have a good time with it. Yeah,
it's pretty Uh, it's gonna be practice.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
You just compare high school recruiting.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
No, I'm just saying, you know what I mean, You
know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Really he did he really just shoot from the hit man.
Jonahs just will bring this stuff out.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
And I'm just you know what I mean, It's.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Like, I don't there's a correlation between crystal metals.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
It's like it's like you'll allow one thing within, you
just go way over the top with allowing everything else.
You know, Like that was that was the whole point.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So there was a little bit of a I don't
know if we can call it a world tour, but
a Northeastern tour, the LeVar Express uh m hm.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
LeVar Islands, Baby, Var Allen, that is a place too.
You don't want to venture there too often though. Stick
City is a cool place to go any day, you know,
But LeVar Allen, that's that's a well, that's a that's
(00:51):
a different Uh, that's a different approach.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
How did Penn State look in the spring game?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I didn't go, do you I didn't go to the game.
Oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait. I thought that was
the whole purpose or one of the biggest amount You're
going out there. No, So you know, I do do
a ton of work. I told you guys. I do
stuff with first responders and small businesses. So the reason
(01:18):
why I was there, the real reason why I was
there was we were kicking off a campaign for the
fire departments, and so we raised money. We create awareness
around the understanding that volunteer fire departments need a ton
of help from the residents and from the businesses, because
(01:39):
if you don't have them then you know, we all
know what that leads to when you need someone in
an emergency situation. So anyway, I was there raising awareness
on just how much money it costs for a fire
department to run. And this is our second year actually
doing it, so that was the real reason why I
was there. It just happened to fall, you know the
(02:02):
schedule makers. That just happened to fall on Blue White weekend,
so there was a little rain. There was a little
rain Saturday morning, and plus I had to do my
radio show, so my radio show ran all the way
up until the kickoff game. Yes, yeah, so it was
a good show this yeah too, but uh so, so
(02:25):
it was raining. I finished up and I was like,
I'm LeVar Islands goes with it.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's like, let's go LeVar isl in it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And and that's I just watched it on the Big
ten Network while I was at the bar with friends,
so I did see the game, just not in person.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And by the way, I realized that was a stupid
question for me to ask after the fact.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I probably should have thought that went through.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
But it's you know, more fun to not think it
through sometimes, does anybody ever look bad during a spring game?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You cannot look impressive?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, you cannot look how so you can't how it
compat of that game.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
It could be set up for you to succeed and
you cannot succeed.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I mean all you got to do is throw
the ball or run the ball, like we had a
guy fumble. I think like you could do things like
make mistakes that could not be you know, favorable in
terms of what your your public reception and kind of
reputation could be, you know what I mean, So you
can make a splash, you know, like I know, for me,
(03:30):
just thinking back to my spring games. My first spring game,
I was you know, obviously had a reputation anyway, but
that this was supposed to be the year that I
was able to take over the starting job and I
still wasn't starting. So I was on the second team.
You have a first team and a second team going
into the spring game. So I was on the second
(03:50):
team defense and I was just trying to knock everybody
to f out, like literally body slamming dudes clothes. They
took me out pretty quick, but everybody was you know,
they walked away like that's the guy. And I wasn't
even on the starting team. So you can. You can
make a name, but you can miss too, You definitely
(04:11):
can miss.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, but our team looks pretty good, man, I know
I've been saying it. I spent a lot of time
with our athletic director as well while I was there
on some some other affairs. I tell you what, Pat
Craft is a pretty impressive dude, man, justify. He's pretty
crafty to to say the least. Yeah, it's no pun intended,
(04:36):
pun intended, it's pretty crafty, dude. I think I'm still tipsy, y'all.
So anyway, the bottom line is it's it's it's a
changing culture.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It's an evolving culture in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It's funny because it's almost like it's almost like politics,
and in a sense it's blue versus red, and in
state college and in the Penn State community, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Literally like very much that. But it seems to be.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
A progressively evolving type of culture there, and it's it's
pretty exciting. Drew Aller is the deal, man. Yeah, he's
the deal. I'm telling you, dude. He looks kind of
like Ben Ben Roethlisberger. Like that's who he reminds me of,
but a little more like refined.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
You know, Big Ben was just a really good athlete
when it was when he was coming out of Findley,
Ohio to My Ohio and a bit raw and maybe
always kind of played that way to a degree. I mean,
all these kids, I feel like are more refined now.
But that's who he reminds me. He's big, he's athletic,
he's got a good arm. I mean it's he's this
tole package man. He's got a good personality about, good
(05:48):
demeanor too. Like he's got that very like calm settle
way about him.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Like he just just the way he looks. He's just
got the look he just oozes. Like franchise. I don't
think we've had a franchise QB since Carry Collins. You know,
I love Trace I love uh Man. What what was
my guy's name? Se I love Cliff cliff Dog. I
hung out with Cliff Dog. Not mcglowing, not glowing, Like,
(06:16):
what was my guy? He was a UA All American.
I'm blanking on his name right now. He was with O'Brien.
He was with O'Brien. Oh Hackenberg's Hackenberg. There you go.
Hackenberg had a chance, a dog. Hack had a chance.
He had a chance. I think he was let down
by the offense. Well before then, get in a line, right, yeah,
(06:39):
before then, the Jets have led a.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Lot of guys. Ye, speaking of not Gin get off
with a narrative. It is always funny to talk about
this time of year. You get like all these front
office guys who are like, well, you know, it should
work out unless the guy's bust. And I'm like, how
do how do we like, how do we determine? Like
when everyone who drafts the guys go on in a
year or two, like will those guys bus like was
(07:03):
the coach was the general manager of bust like the Jets.
For example, like Hackenberg got there, he didn't by the way,
he didn't have much protection. It's like final two or
three years at Penn State. They didn't do him any
much help to get into New York. He needed to
sit and he needed to learn, which never ultimately really
worked out for him.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
But the same thing with Donald to.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
A degree, Like Donald had things he needed to work on,
yet you know he was He's thrust it right in
right away to play and you just go, oh, well,
that guy's a bus It's like, well, no, it's just
maybe your organization stinks. Maybe maybe it's your organization, your
inability for an owner or anyone in the organization to
be able to make it work.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Maybe the Jets busted. Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Though, Well, that's the thing is, like, no fan base
will ever look at the organization. They'll just blame the player,
because you can get rid of a player, you can't
get rid of the team, which you don't want to
get rid of your team.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You want to get your team beway.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
But it's funny because it's a word that's thrown around
by like draft analysts people and folks.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
No such thing well, and such thing as people who
were in the front office.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
And so the funny thing about people who are part
of these draft groups.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And I don't care what we.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Want to talk, I'm talking about all of them, guys
I work with, guys I don't I'm talking specifically to
all of them, all right. The funny thing about him
is you're in the front office, so they make a pick,
and they might be putting that kid into a bad spot.
He doesn't fit this game, doesn't fit, you know, what
they do, or they're with a coach that doesn't even
develop him or doesn't and doesn't want to even do
any of that.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, you just have a different scheme every year. Well
there's that too, different in your room every year.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
There's so many nuances that make a football play work
that when we step back from looking at football in
that respect, we then don't go, oh, no, the player
just didn't work out, you know, like like there wasn't
anything else that was going on, the fact that the
whole front office got fired, or they coaching staff got
fired everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Or they didn't know what they were doing right, one
or two just didn't know what they were doing. I mean,
would some guys be incoherent? Man, I'd be like, how's
this guy still coaching?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Man?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Like I remember one time, man, when Joe Gibbs came back,
that joint was like the return of Cocoon.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh god, it was dudes out there in wheelchairs, walkers
like the dudes with dementia, all kinds of stuff, man,
just out there.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Coaching, dentures in mouthpieces, dentures.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
All kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Man, Like, got the old gang back, got to get
this w return of the hogs.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Like, man, if y'all don't go sit somewhere with your
jaritol and.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Play some backgammon, man like, you don't if you don't
let somebody else coach this team. Yeah, dudes, their ligaments
were so stretched out they was both They gave new
meaning to bow legg it. That'd be like a couple
man like, this is our coaching staff, all right here, okay,
(10:04):
alrighty yeah. I had one dude couldn't even lift his
head up. It was down, shut hook hand down.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
He s hey.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
By the way, speaking of hand down, man down, what
did you guys think of the opening weekend of the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I gotta ask you real quick.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I thought it was entertaining.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Man, I'm not an injury.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I'm big on it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
There were yeah, injuries.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Main dudes, all that it might be the same dudes.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, John Morans banged up, he's got a hand. He's honest,
he's not optimistic. Yannis Tyler hero even think a little
managing the regular season?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Yeah right, yeah, why Leonard?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But got these guy's got more rest of this season?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Kawhi, Leonard looking at everybody laughing, got my my points, bitches,
little management.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I'm ready to go Clip City. Hey LeVar, you don't
like the.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Under the under the uniform like rib protectors and back
and all that. Yeah, like the basketball players wear that
now too, Yeah they do.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
They wear like a whole outfit to protect like back
in the day they weren't wearing that.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
And it's just it's funny to me that guys get
so banged up in today's game.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
You're going you guys can't hand check.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
It's not even close to us physical and you were
in more padding than you had before and you're taking
off more time in the regular season to prepare for this,
but you're still getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
They were showing I saw somebody like there.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I didn't see the video, but they tweeted it out
like things are getting chippy between the Tea Wolves and
the Nuggets, and I'm thinking, oh, we're gonna have a
nice little Donnybrook. There was nothing like somebody went down
to the ground, things got separated.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
And next thing you know that that was it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And people tried to play it up like it's do
all of it's playoff time. This is the most physical
time of year, and this is when things are gonna
get hippy. Wait a second, nothing happened. There was no brawl.
I remember Bulls Knicks back in the day. Was it, uh,
Derek Harper and Jojo English or somebody like that.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Order each other.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, And and you had Stern sitting the commissioner of
the NBA was sitting like two.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Roses and Scottie Pippen and Nixon Bulls.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
No.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But it wasn't Scottie Pippen. It was God, I want
to say, I want to say it was Joe Jo.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You know who it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
They got, they got real tippy.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That is the the the early look at weekend one
of the NBA playoffs here on two pros and.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It was competitive though honestly, on a serious note, it
was good.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It was a good watch.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, it was fine.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I mean the Lakers pulled it out against the Grizzlies.
It could have gotten interesting with them, and I mean,
you know, looking at all the other games, I.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Mean, dude, little Reeves is good.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
He's making a statement. You know, I didn't think he'd be.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
The standout player on that roster, but hold him through, Ye,
Jimmy Butler pulled him through playoff, Jimmy like the King,
surprising the Warriors the Sun's letting the.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Clips, I mean, letting the clips do it.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They come on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean, you know, I was expecting a little more
from Brady's Cavaliers.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But you know, I mean that was that was That
was a shocker too.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I mean, but so is Jaylen Brunson. Like no one
thought he was gonna be as good of a player
as he is.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Meanwhile, the MAVs are sitting, you know, sitting everybody out
except Luca for thirteen minutes on Slovenian Night, just so
they can protect their top ten pick. Jalen Brunson's in
New York playing in the postseason winning.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
By the way, how many teams had Slovenia.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
You don't know he has.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Well, it's a special night for the MAVs though.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah, very special.
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Speaker 2 (14:08):
So, the NFL Draft is coming up in a couple
of weeks from now from Kansas City, and you're going
to have seventeen prospects reportedly on hand at the NFL Draft.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Waiting to hear their name called.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But one that will not be there, apparently is Quintin Johnston,
the stud wide receiver out of TCU. The report is
the NFL wants to avoid and need an embarrassing moment
for him if he happens to wait a little bit
longer than anybody else or who knows happens to know,
wait until day two of the draft if that were
(14:41):
the case. So they have decided to go ahead and
not invite Quintin Johnston from TCU. He will not be
one of the seventeen on hand at the NFL Draft,
so Lisa are looking out for his well being.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
So there's that little TCU update for you.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
The interesting thing is how would they know? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
How would they?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Always wondered that? How do you invite who you're inviting?
I always wonder at that.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Which which again, like if you're looking at it from
this standpoint, a lot of people had Quinn Johnston, and
if you look at all the mock drafts or even
some of the prognosticators out there, people who do this
for a living, they've got them rated as a top three,
top four wide receiver. At a bear minimum, right, I
(15:26):
guess at the worst. So it's a bit surprising that
the NFL would would make this claim because there's only
one wide receiver from the people that I've talked to
with teams that have kind of just looked the other
way on what happened this past season.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's Jackson Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Everyone feels like as far as the skill set roulet
running ability, he's fast enough. They have no concerns about
the fact that he missed the entire season basically off
a soft tissue injury. They only a lot of teams
only view him as the first round guy, or at
least I have only had him as a first round great
on him. So if that's the case, why would you
invite Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison who are also invited
(16:07):
along with Jackson Smith and jig But I believe that
have accepted the invite I mean, are you subjecting them
to the same thing. So unless the NFL somehow already
has a really good idea of where some of these
teams are going, which seems nearly impossible because it's not
like they're going to disclose that with the league and
(16:29):
then have that not get around other teams or not
leak out potentially, There's just so many things that can happen.
And you also don't know if teams trade day off.
You know, those scenarios are circumstances don't present themselves until
the draft happens and teams are under the clock and
then stuff starts happening, so they would not be able
to know. I mean, look, I hadn't met with a
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team outside the top ten. I getting taken at the
twenty second pick, and I remember it was the year after,
or maybe it was two years after or but the
NFL brought me in league offices there at Park Avenue
and we talked for a while about what they could
do to try to entice players to want to come
to the draft, and I just flat outside. I said, look,
(17:14):
for me, it was more of a you know, a
personal thing. Some of my family had never been to
New York, that probably will never go back to New York.
It was just like a once in a lifetime experience.
And I full well knew that, you know, there was
the chance of that happening. A lot of guys have
agents who convince them otherwise, or a lot of guys
put in their head that they're not going to drop
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or they should be taken, you know, in a certain spot.
And instead of like focusing so much on that, they
don't look at it, say it's just a starting point,
which is all it really is. It's just a starting
point for your you know, journey in the league and
hopefully you go to a good franchise and organization that
knows what they're doing. And and so they said, well,
what can we do to get more guys to come
(17:57):
in here?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I said, well, there's two things.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
I mean. The first is you got to incentivize them.
Like a lot of times the league will have these
guys come and they won't have them with any money
making opportunities. So if you're not financially incentivizing them, imagine
the costs that's associated with their entire family coming into
New York for the draft. Like you got to comp
them some hotel rooms, some travel, some all this stuff
(18:21):
to take care of not just them, but they're family
and all the other people who want to be a
part or have been a part of this process the
entire way. Like you got to hook them up a
little bit and maybe even find them a league sponsor
for on of these marketing deals so they get a
little money in their pocket. Like, that's the first thing
to me. And then the last thing is really just
you know, and it's hard to control it, but you know,
(18:44):
you've got to make sure they're informed and they're aware
of what may take place. And as long as you
go around, you know, trying to you know, helping to
craft the narrative, which the league has the power to do.
With the teams that have the rights to the draft,
you know, they're not going to like they're constantly you know,
on camera constantly a part of that. Now, some of
(19:05):
that's just again it's part of the situation in the conversation.
You know, mel Kiper's not going to shy away from
a guy that he thinks should be drafted higher or
maybe in the first round. It's part of the drama
of the draft. There's nothing better than that. So that's
the odd thing is, you know, I don't know why
the NFL would take the stance on a player that
seemingly looks to be one of the top receivers in
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this draft. And also it plays into the drama that
is the draft. I mean, I guess they can film
him wherever he's at, but it makes for a better
case if he's in Kansas City and they have the
opportunity to see him there live, like that's part of it,
is them putting you on camera and and people just
watching his picks go by and you're not getting picked.
It's how it was for Aaron's how was for me.
(19:47):
It's hell was for a lot of other people who
are in that spot. That's what creates some of the
intrigue to it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I'll just get this feeling that the organizations have to
the organizations have to probably give probably give a list
of who they're planning on taking. There has to be
some way of knowing, you think, so there has to
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be type.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Don't they try and keep everything?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't well, I don't think that they I don't
think that they have to take like that. I don't
think it's a we're taking this one with our first
our first pick, because they if that person may not
be there. And I don't think that the NFL gets
involved in like, Okay, this team is looking at these
players and it's all disclosed to other teams. I just
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think that in order to be able to coordinate all
of the things that are coordinated around the NFL Draft.
There has to be a path forward, a plan understanding.
It's still production, it's still a it's it's and it
includes people.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
So I would I would. I would assume you gotta
put like, all right, for at least.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
For the first round, for the first round picks, you like,
here's your list, like, here's our list of who we're
planning on taking, and then I would assume you just
take what those names are, and the names that keep
popping up, you invite them, like, I'm not saying you're
saying you're like, again, I'm not saying there's a definitive
(21:25):
we're taking this person with our first pick. I'm just saying,
these are the guys that we see going if we
had the opportunity we're taking right, there has to be something.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
There has to be some form of reference. It has
to be They.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Probably get like a consensus of the teams that have
first round grades on players. I think that's most likely
what it is. They they've got some assortment of teams
that have said, hey, these guys all first round grades,
and so it helps the NFL. Then in the process
of saying which guys do we want to put in
these spots where even if they doesn't like I think
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there's common logic with people on the outside that if
a team has a need, they're going to draft that
guy in the first round. Now, the problem with that
is most people on the outside don't understand how organizations
think they If they have an immediate need for a starter,
they're going to go find a veteran, and that veteran
might not always be a top veteran, you know, a
top paid veteran. It might be another guy they end
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up signing later on that they trust can come in
do the job and be the guy for a period
of time or even the first year while the rookie
gets his feed underneath them. Even sometimes with first round picks,
you know, they'll they'll want to work them into the
starting lineup or work them into being a pro before
they you know, just throw them out there. So a
lot of times the pick might not make sense to
(22:44):
people on the outside. But they might have a guy
who's going into the final year of his contract and
they have to eventually replace him, and so they're drafting
his replacement.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But the point is this is.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
They'll get in a you know, an idea of who
those first round greted players are, and so they can
at least invite them, knowing that, hey, if so and
so team doesn't take them because it'd be a good fit,
it's a need for them. There's a couple teams behind
them to have a first round grade and up two
they might take them.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I would just be.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Highly concerned as an NFL team, knowing how the NFL
office leaks like a sieve when it comes to these
sorts of things, and wanting to supply them a list
of potential players that we take, knowing that you could
have some people who've got some connections to other teams
that leak that stuff out and that would obviously could
(23:32):
be harmful to a trade scenario, to certain teams picking
certain players, that would be incredibly frustrating. So even that
list I provide, I don't even know how accurate what
would be. Instead of providing them a list of you know, hey,
we've got first round grades on twenty guys, I might
provide them a list of forty. I say, hey, we
have a list of forty guys we have first round
(23:53):
grades on this year, and let them figure out the
rest and they're okay, we got to work with another team. Then,
I mean, that's how I would handle it because I
wouldn't want to provide them anything. I still remember being
going to the NFL combine being on camera people asking
you know, hey.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Have you you ever smoked weed? You know, you ever
smoked the Old Greenwolf?
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And I was I mean, I could answer it honestly,
I'd never done anything like that in my life. Still
have never smoked weed to this day. But there's other
players who did answer honestly, and it got out, like
literally we left the combine and it leaked out that
certain players in our draft class had smoked weed. I'm like, well,
there you go. Why would you trust anything with the
(24:33):
NFL because it always gets out, there's always a leak
at some point.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's like remember when Darius Hayward Bay went number seven
to the Raiders. Nobody had him being a top ten pick,
Nobody had him going that high, and so he probably
didn't show up to the draft thinking well, there's no
chance that I'm going to be taken as high as
one of these guys that's going to be drafted, that
would walk up to the stage get his jersey et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
But he didn't even have the choice.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He didn't even have the option, and the Raiders went
ahead and made a pick for a guy that nobody
probably expected was going to be there. I would just
rather not take any chances. If a guy wants to
go and he's projected to be a top thirty or
a top forty pick, just let him go. And the
fact that they don't even cover the hotel room costs
for the families, I didn't know that. I thought that
was something that came with, Hey, how many people are
(25:21):
you with?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
And it was a while ago, and so I think
they maybe do it for like two rooms or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Geez, come on.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
And that's where like when I when they asked me
to like consult, I basically said to them, look like,
you guys got to realize, you know, for a lot
of these guys, it's hard for them. It's gonna be
hard for them to overcome, you know, some of that
in their mind. And I think there's a lot of
guys who, you know, they get frustrated at their agent
because their agents tell them they're gonna drafted higher than
(25:49):
they probably actually are. It's like so you know, you
have to kind of be the voice of reason if
you're presenting them this opportunity and just flat out say
to them, hey, if you don't get taken in this spot,
you know, like what we got you. You know, we'll
make sure to take care of you. But that's the
tough part. I think there's some players who want to go,
they want to have the experience regardless, you know, they
don't care as much, and there's some players who really
(26:10):
do care.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
But either way, there has to be some incentivization.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
You can't just like say, here's the opportunity, you know,
come on down if you want. You got to provide
them with some chances to make some money off.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
This whole thing.
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Speaker 6 (27:10):
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Speaker 5 (27:12):
Yeah, we do have some bad news.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We have some bad news for many people out there
that were propping up the next great Manning quarterback in
the world of football, Arch Manning. We've been hearing NonStop
about arch Manning, all of these grainy videos that have
popped up of somebody holding a sideline cell phone and
just seeing Arch Manning dropping dimes against world class competition,
(27:36):
as you would be led to believe. And then all
of a sudden, the spring game for Texas pops up,
and well, not all that hot. Arch Manning was outplayed
by both quarterbacks in Texas, obviously Quinn Ewers, who was
the starter last year, and then you've also got Malik
Murphy who was the backup and he was competing with
(27:57):
arch Manning as well too. He outplayed arch Manning get
the spring game. There are some numbers and statistics to
go along with that, but it led Steve Sarkejian, the
head coach of the Texas Longhorns, to make the no
brainer choice that Quinn Yours is back at starting quarterback
for the Texas Longhorns. So the arch Manning hype train
hits a little bit of a bump in the road
(28:18):
there for the Texas quarterback.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah. I mean, I think if you watched some of
the spring game, which I had the opportunity to see
some of it, you know, there's a few things that
stood out. Let me just say this in defense of
arch Manning. He didn't get much time or protection. You know,
he didn't force the ball throw it into harm's way,
and so that would have been one thing that I
think you had been really concerned by, only because of
his pedigree and you know, his coaching growing up, being
(28:45):
that he's a Manning that if he was under duress
and he was putting the ball in bad spots and
turn the ball over a bunch, that would have been
a problem.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He didn't necessarily do that.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
It's just his stat line's not going to match what
Malik Murphy or what Quinn Ewers had, And that's okay.
He's he's a freshman, he's young, he's adapting to a
faster speed of the game, and it's going to take
him a little time. But I would be willing to
bet his learning curve is one that you know the
next time he's out and he's gonna get better, and
he's going to keep getting better from there. He's a
(29:16):
better athlete than people, you know, give him credit. I
think one of the things I was tough watching his
high school film is he wasn't playing versus the best competition.
Like that was pretty apparent when you'd watch the clips. However,
you know, that doesn't mean he doesn't have a ton
of ability and he's not gonna be able to utilize
the guys around him. But what was on display was,
(29:37):
you know, Quinn, you weres clearly who's been in the system.
Now it looks like he's in command of the offense.
And furthermore, he's just got a unique arm talent. There's
a reason why he was so highly rated. He could
change his arm angles. He's got a strong arm. He
cleaned up I thought some of his footwork. I know
that people have talked about his diet. He's eating better,
he's taking care of himself better. Those are all Those
(29:58):
are all mature, good things you'd like to see of
a quarterback who's tried to be the first overall pick
in the future, which is what quinn Ewrs has the
ability to be. He reminds me of as far as
the arm ability of someone like Matt Stafford. You know
where he's got this really strong arm. He doesn't have
to necessarily always address his throats. He can just kind
of whip his arm around and sling that football. Who
(30:19):
really stood out the most of is Malik Murphy. I mean,
he's got to extremely live arm, probably the strongest of
every quarterback on that roster. Dude, he's big and he's athletic.
He can move for that size. So you know, if
you're arch manning, it might be a while before you
get that opportunity to go in there and play. And
he's gonna have to be patient. And I think the
(30:40):
tough thing is for Steve Sarkegian is you've got three
really capable quarterbacks and depending on how this whole thing
plays out, you're probably gonna lose one. And that's only
because everyone wants to play. They want to get in there,
they want to play, They're want to go in the NFL,
and so in order to do that, you know, they've
got to be able to have the opportunity in the REPS. So,
(31:02):
you know, for these guys are set on the bench anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
It's just it's not a reality.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
And with the transfer portal the way it's set up,
you know, in May it's actually open right now, they
moved to date up. It used to be from May
first to the fourteenth, I believe. Now it's April fifteenth
to the thirtieth, So I mean, guys are putting their
name in the portal now and trying to see what
other opportunities are out there. And then obviously it starts
to get in December through January, so it's it's going
to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
(31:28):
He's a big name because of the Manning last name,
and he's at a one of the blue bloods of
college football at the University of Texas, and it might
not be his time this year, but eventually there'll come
a time where he's going to be in that quarterback battle,
and we'll see how he competes against a guy like
Malig Murphy who's got, like I said, a ton of ability.
I mean you you talk about a guy who again
(31:49):
looks to be the part and looks to be like
another first round prospect both viewers, but obviously Mlig Murphy
as well.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I would just I would just add when you have
three guys that are of elite level status at one college,
and yes, the sentiment that you're going to lose at
least one, you might lose two. But the idea of
it is is that when you have that type of talent,
(32:18):
you have to you have to know and you have
to accept as a player sometimes that it's the competition
that that is going to make you national champs. Right Like,
if I don't have anybody that's any good that's behind me,
then how much better am I really going to get?
If I'm running one hundred meters against somebody, you know,
(32:40):
against my teammates in practice and they can only run
an eleven flat. But we're going to have to get
to the Nines to be able to win a national title.
You know, somebody's got to be pushing each other to
be able to push to those numbers. And so sometimes
I feel like the transfer portal and sometimes even you know,
the popularity of recruits or the pressure on coaches doesn't
(33:05):
really allow for the true development of that elite player,
you know. And then sometimes that whole the brand of
the player, like the Manning brand, is such a bohemoth
brand and to be there that amount of pressure, you
should be people should be applauding that that there are
(33:27):
guys that are actually standing in and standing up to
the pressure of arch being there and not bowing down
to it, because in the end.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
That's a lot of pressure to be under when when
knowing that, okay, he chose to come here and this
is who you have to compete against. So in some
instances I hope that these guys accept that it's okay
to have two three good elite quarterbacks on a roster.
You may need one one more in the initial you
(34:03):
may need one more outside further out and take your turn.
Like I can recall, you can recall at all the
top programs. I mean, if you think about like back
when Florida State was Florida State, that was every position
and they weren't reloading, right, or they weren't rebuilding. They
were reloading. You think about notre dame. They weren't reloaded,
(34:25):
or they weren't rebuilding, they were reloading. It was just
somebody was coming in at quarterback, at running back, at receiver,
at linebacker, at there was always someone and if somebody
got hurt, somebody else popped in and they blew up
because you knew that they.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Were good enough to be starting to begin with.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like there's something to be said about having an elite roster.
Like we've gotten so far away from talking about playing
your role and waiting your turn and earning your keep
because the transfer portal says that it's easy to just
walk away from a situation, a circumstance and instead of
growing the muscle, y'all talked about hacked squats and all
(35:05):
that stuff, instead of really forcing the muscle to grow.
Because you got a tear and rip and build and
all those different things, you're not putting any type of
pressure on yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Can I ask you guys a question though, as guys,
who were you know, six star recruits? You guys weren't
even five star, you were six stars. That's not sure,
six and a quarter. In fact, that was bar was
a five star. I was a four star. Well, they
didn't even have stars when I was coming.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I'm too old, you know what, Brady, You're a six
star to me.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
There you about that, I'll take.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
But the log jam at a position.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
So if you were arch Manning and you're looking at
Texas and you see Quinn yours is coming back, and
there was already a ton of hype about him and
where he was going to end up going. He had
showed a lot of promises past year. The game against Oklahoma,
he was fantastic, and then you see Malik Murphy him,
he was awesome.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah, like he got hurt, they would have beat Bama.
Hat he stayed healthy in that game.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Agreed and Milik Murphy who's six ' five what two
thirty and was he nineteen years old? So if you're
arch Manning, why would you go there? Well, why if
you wanted to play, why wouldn't you go somewhere else
where there wasn't a log jam?
Speaker 6 (36:12):
I think some of the tough thing for Arches you
might want to carve out his own way and at
least in the short term, you know, Texas will be
a part of the SEC they're currently not now. You know,
Eli went to Old Miss Peyton went to Tennessee, and
you kind of had all of that potential for him
to go to another SEC school, But you know, maybe
(36:32):
he just felt like Austin was a better place for
him to grow and develop as an individual. Steve Sarkejian
being there as the head coach could have a lot
to do with it too. There's a number of things.
But I always tell kids, you know, make this more
than just about football. Make it more than just about
the head coach. The head coach will come and go
(36:53):
even football if things don't work out, you get injured,
God forbid. You want to have at least a degree
to start building the foundation of what you're going to
be doing moving forward. You know, I was fortunate enough
to go to Notre Dame because I sure as hell
wouldn't have gotten in if I was just a normal
student there. And you surround yourself with so many, so
many incredibly bright, intelligent people, like one of the things
(37:15):
I'm most jealous of.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
And I'll say this.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
To another buddy who played for Shoot twelve, thirteen, fourteen
years whatever it was, and he's like, man, he's like
some of these guys I talked to, like, I know
they went through their lumps early after they got done
playing and trying to figure out what they wanted to do,
but now they're on a career path or they're just
building from here. He's like, it's kind of tough as
an athlete sometimes where you leave and then you've got
to figure out like what's next. And honestly, like they're
(37:39):
earning potential after you get out of the league, you're
probably never going to make the same type of money
the rest of your career, and so for a lot
of players, like they don't realize it. And I think
the hard thing about the transfer portal, just to bring this,
you know, full circle, is you got kids transferring who
don't care about their degree, they don't even care about finishing.
They're just trying to make sure they're eligible and they're
(37:59):
trying and make sure they have a spot to go
play football somewhere. And that's great. I'm not trying to
deter anyone from their dream or getting an opportunity to
go play and finishing it out. But when it's all
said and done, like you still have to come back
and have a foundation and you still have to have
a network and the ability to go provide for yourself
and eventually for a family and all that. And when
you keep bouncing around school to school or you when
(38:22):
you truly don't ever sign up and have any sort
of commitment to any school or anyone, it makes it
hard for you to do that once you get out
into the job market. So it's hard. I mean, look,
we could go on and on and on about this.
I mean, the NCAA just approved unlimited official and unofficial
visits like now, these kids can go as much as
(38:43):
they want, however many times they want. And so for
people out there to understand, there's so many issues with this,
the first being the cost associated. So obviously, you only
have so many scholarships a year if you're a university,
and you can finagle that a little bit, but you know,
you're having a bunch of kids in on official visits
that aren't even probably possible to be there, and it
(39:07):
costs the university a good amount. I mean, Georgia spend
four point six million this year just for their football
recruiting alone. I have no idea how much they spent
in other ways if you're catch my drill. But that's
just four point six million on the books. So imagine
everything else that went into nil efforts or other recruiting efforts,
and you know what I mean. But I'm just saying
(39:30):
like it's I mean that amongst the fact that like
these staffs and these universities aren't built out to just
have an unlimited amount of visits. I mean, someone popped
in on an unofficial visit all of a sudden, you
got to make sure you're touring this kid around. I mean,
it's so so dumb and short sighted on the side
of the NCAA.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I have no idea what they're thinking.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
And furthermore, when you're supposed to be a governing body
that oversees all of this, would you think that if
you shouldn't be able to have an unlimited amount because
if a school was cheating, if they were providing improper
benefits and everything else that they shouldn't be doing. How
are you gonna have this robust department that's gonna be
able to check this or are you really gonna ask
(40:12):
schools to be accountable when schools who have been accountable
in the past, you've brought down unfair punishment. I mean,
I really thought with the new president. When a Baker
I think is his name, the guy who's the governor
of Massachusetts, I really thought, okay, we might be headed
into better direction. He's got some friends in Congress. Maybe
(40:32):
they'll create some federal legislation. If this is one of
your first moves and they're gonna oversee this. This is
one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. Like,
instead of like tightening things up and creating more boundaries
and restrictions, Yeah, it's like, oh, yeah, do whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Visit as much as you want. Someone's gonna pay for it.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
We don't know who. Like, And by the way, don't
worry if something wrong happens, we won't check either.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Like you won't get in trouble for it.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
It's like, hey, we're gonna make weed legal. And you know,
while we're at it, how about crystal math. You do
what you gotta do. Everybody have a good time with it. Yeah,
it's pretty Uh, it's gonna be practice.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
You just compare high school recruiting.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
No, I'm just saying, you know what I mean, You
know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Really he did he really just shoot from the hit man.
Jonahs just will bring this stuff out.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
And I'm just you know what I mean, It's.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Like, I don't there's a correlation between crystal metals.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
It's like it's like you'll allow one thing within, you
just go way over the top with allowing everything else.
You know, Like that was that was the whole point.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
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