April 20, 2023 • 37 mins
Deshaun Watson discusses the “night-and-day difference” between last offseason and this offseason. Senior NFL Reporter for the MMQB, Albert Breer ranks BIG 10 stadiums and gives insight into the Jalen Hurts contract and upcoming draft. Plus, The People Champ, Calvin Ridley provides Vegas with a golden opportunity.
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The Way tire buying should be. So a familiar name
spoke about the differences between last year at this time
and this year at this time, and that's certain. Somebody
(01:29):
is Deshaun Watson of your Cleveland Browns. Deshaun Watson last
scene having to testify under oath as to his involvement
in a against him.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, what number did he claim? Again?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
What was?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That was the latest from Deshaun Watson. Well, he did
speak with the media.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
On the advice of my lawyer, I assert my rights
under the Fifth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Fifth.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Good have Carl Lewis joining us here on the program.
But we do hear from Deshaun Watson who talked about
just sort of the differences between last year this year,
everything going on as they approach the draft and get
ready for another season in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Here was the Browns QB.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
I mean, honestly, it's night and day. You know, I'm
last year. I've never been to Cleveland, only twice when
I came on a pre visit and when we played.
Outside of that, you know, it was my first time
up here with everything going on. But you know, all
that is in the past, like I said before, and
I'm looking to move forward with my life. And my
career and just being able to really plant myself in
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this community, in this city and then also in this
organization for a very very long time and win a
whole bunch of games.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, So it's definitely not in the past, just so
you know, just so he's aware, because it's still currently
going on. There's still two outstanding situations happening with Shaw
Watson and cases against him last checked, and I would.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Definitely not as intense as it has been though he's
gotten through the eye of the storm.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, although do you think it's a little ill advised
for Deshaun Watson to still be in Houston training during
the offseason. Seems like that's a place where there could
be some problems, you know, like he's had a track
record there, dude.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Just for me, Deshaun Watson is in his mind clear
of any type of culpability to this scenario, Jonas and.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To do anything.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
And this is interesting, I'm about to say, because you
could take it however you want to take it. To
do anything differently than what you did during the time
that you were accused of. What you were accused of
would insinuate guilt. So if you're talking about Deshaun Watson
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is still doing the same exact things he was doing
before all of this, Like we're on the other side
of it. He's still training in Texas. He's still taking
his familiar approach to how he's preparing you work that
math out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Don't believe in the word triggers when it comes to
people who have a problem and certain things can t I.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Have triggers, Okay, I have triggers. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So, like I would say that if you knew somebody
who was an alcoholic, probably would recommend they walk a
different way into work, as opposed to right by the
liquor store they used to get all their booze from
and sink into the office.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Or a breakroom that has liquor in a refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
A great point is a great place if.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
You know that you have someone who struggles with that,
or you know it's a trigger, you know you don't
you pay attention to that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yes, now, now this is we're not speaking on behalf
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
There are no boos in the breakroom here.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I mean this is a not that I've seen, and
I don't know of any alcoholics on our on our
on our roster. No, no, but I don't have all
that personal informason either. Maybe Berto, Yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know, I don't think it's Berto.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
But since we're on the subject of alcohol, the photo
that Lee's sent to us on our group text chain yesterday,
Todd Okay, well we'll get to that here coming up
in just a couple of moments. But the point is
when it comes to Deshaun Watson before we get derailed
on Todd Talk here on Thursday. But the point with
(05:32):
Deshaun Watson, the idea that he's got all these issues
with the city of Houston and there's just problems there.
The fact that he's still there working out is kind
of a to me. If I were advising Deshaun Watson,
I'd say, hey, man, why don't we uh, you know,
should go hang out in Cleveland a little bit? You know,
you don't you don't know the surroundings, The neon lights
(05:52):
might hit it a little different when you walk by him.
Maybe that's not the place you want to hang out in.
But point is he's there.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So you're saying you used to and as his trigger.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Seems like there's a lot going on thereg.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
His trigger for a gun happy. Okay, I was wondering
if you will laugh. I was wondering if he was
going to laugh. I wonder how many people like finish
my sentence for me out there in radio land.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I can't, but I'm sure somebody did.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I am not going to do that Johnson.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
For some reason, Lee nodded his head, though I don't
know why that was.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Feels like he's got a free fast to do so.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But when it comes to the subject of the Browns
next year, this is kind of an interesting off season
into next season for Cleveland because what if, for whatever reason,
there's an issue with Deshaun Watson playing and he doesn't
play at a high level, and he struggled at times
last year certainly, and he can talk about the night
(06:53):
and day differences between learning the offense.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And all that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
If they go out and they have somewhat of a
disappointing season, is Kevin Stefanski going to.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Be there the year after or is this a yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
This just feels like it's approved year and Stefanski's future
in Cleveland rides solely on whether or not Deshaun Watson
can pick up the offense and put down his bad habits.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I'm curious as to who all will go if Deshaun
Watson fails as the quarterback of Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Do you think there's some people that might have an
issue with the transaction and getting to Shaun Watson? They
could be on the hot seat too.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean why not?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I mean that is again, we're looking at all of
the drama that's playing out with Lamar Jackson and it's
based upon Shaun Watson. Yes, now you're looking at the
idea that people don't want to make that type of
commitment in the National Football League, But the Cleveland Browns did.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Who did it? Who made that decision? The Browns? I mean,
but who?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, the office, the general.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
But who whoever is the whoever was a part of
that deal being done. You're at risk. You're at risk.
I'm gonna tell you right now. Wile, while the AFC
North wasn't the the Krim Dela Creme for for once
and in all of the history of the National Football
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League last year, wasn't the most dominant of divisions in
the NFL last year.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But that's still the AFC North.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They play defense in the AFC North, Cleveland they play defense.
Baltimore one hundred percent they played defense. Pittsburgh one hundred percent.
They play defense. And now Cincinnati is the new boss
bully on the block and in the AFC North and
they play defense. And you got a outduel, you gotta
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outduel Joe Burrow, who is considered you know, I mean,
he's a top two, top three quarterback in the National
Football League right now, yep. And if they get Lamar
Jackson back, you have one of the top franchise quarterbacks
in Baltimore in that division right now. So the things
that like the Texans, like, okay, he had a good
(09:19):
career in Texas, but who was he playing, Like what
was his staunch competition?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Like what did he really.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Have to do and deal with playing with the Texas, which,
by the way, they weren't very good.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Their four and twelve final year. They're terrible in Houston.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
To me, it almost it almost lines up that he
will not he first of all, he will not outplay
his contract.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Like let's get that part of it.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Clear, Like you can we can easily like answer that
he will not outplay his contract. You will not look
at Deshaun Watson and be like, Deshaun Watson is showing
why they gave him that contract.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That will not happen.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
There's one player who possibly outplayed that contract. That was
Tom Brady, and that was because he won seven Super Bowls.
Deshaun Watson not happening, not even in the same realm
as far as just the quality of play and what
he brought in returns, as far as return on investment
goes on the contract.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I would agree with you. That's just not going
to happen.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
It's just not going to happen. And I mean you
mentioned Tom Brady. You can throw a Patrick Mahomes into
the mix, but that's probably it. Aaron Rodgers, that's probably it. Yeah,
Like literally, for as good as the other quarterbacks in
this league are, that's probably it. That you're looking at
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names of guys where you'd say their resume says they'll
outplay the contract that they've been given or it'll be
justified that contract. There's nothing about any of these other
quarterbacks in the league that says it's justified to give
that type of a contract to period. But he got it.
(11:08):
So you know who wins no matter how Deshaun Watson
plays next year.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
There you go, and and Andrew Berry the GM he's
been and obviously they had success early on, but this
also points to if this fails with Deshaun Watson, say
they don't make the playoffs this upcoming year, and if
you look at that division right now, depending on what
happens with Lamar Jackson and Baltimore, it's fair to say
(11:33):
that there's a real chance that they could be the
third team in that division because Cincinnati, as you pointed
out as number one, Baltimore feels like you would give
them a little bit of an edge over Cleveland, and
who the hell knows with Kenny Pickett and Alan Robinson
and year two for Kenny Pickett, whether or not the
Steelers make a jumps. It's a tricky division when it
comes to all that. And so you've got Stefanski who
(11:56):
went to the playoffs this first year in the COVID year,
Baker Mayfield was the quarterback, they come back, They had
a sub five hundred year the next year, and then
last year was a below five hundred year again for Cleveland.
And you could say, well, Deshaun Watson missed eleven games,
so you kind of cut him a little bit of
a break. Okay, yes, but him missing eleven games, Andrew
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Berry and the organization, to your point, knew that that
was gonna be on deck here. And so if we
come back another year and he's there a full season,
I just feel like heads are gonna roll and it's
definitely not gonna be Deshaun Watson because of the contract,
and so all those people are gonna be held accountable
and all those people aren't Deshaun Watson. And that's why
I look at this and go He can say it's
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night and day difference, and I get all that off
the field, but if it's not a stark difference to
what his performance was last year, there's gonna be people
out of jobs next year. It's the way it goes.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
But Deshaun Watson can just play within himself. Deshaun Watson
doesn't have to be anything else other than Deshaun Watson. Yeah,
train in Uston, get your get your therapeutic sessions done
in Houston and other places. Have the stand up towel
(13:09):
in the corner back in play. You're just going to
do things differently now, Jonas. You know, like instead of
trusting that that what you're doing and who you're doing
it with and how you're doing it is going to
be perceived and received the right way. You take. You
take all precautions. If you're going to work on me,
(13:32):
you're going to sign an NDA. If you're going to
work on me, you're there are certain assurances that are
going to take place that are going to protect me.
So he's he's this is called adapting and adjusting. So again,
like my original point, he doesn't feel like he's ever
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done anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And for what it's worth, maybe he didn't.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Maybe he didn't, But in the end, that man has
got a whole lot of scratch. And if you think
the pressure is on him, you know, think again, Like
it's a maybe it's a personal pressure to prove it,
but that man got his money.
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Here coming up a little over twenty minutes from now,
we are going to catch up with the Great Albert
Breer here momentarily. I mean, I don't know why we're
playing Michigan's celebration song in ann arborot.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Let's see when we got Albert Breer coming up?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
He says, let's see, Yeah, that toobies.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
But it's just the price we pay tested me.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Calling me.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Right now, we do talk to the Great Albert Brier
senior NFL reporter at the m m QB. You can
get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. Albert, what's happening.
How's your Thursday?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Hi? Well it was good.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
It was good until you guys played that song that
reminded me of that dump.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Okay, all right, Albert?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
How many Big ten stadiums? Since we're just on the
topic now, how many Big ten stadiums have you been to?
And where does ann Arbor and the Big House rank
for you amongst all stadiums you've been to.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Well, i'd have to I mean, I don't know. I
have to think about it. Because when I was in college,
I covered the football team, so I've been to a bunch.
I would say, like, I still say that this is
like unbiased, right, but but I still think Ohio Stadium's
got the most character of all of them. I think
I'll give you this, LeVar. I think Tenna State's the loudest. Okay,
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and I think the one I think the one that
like is probably a little wonder at that people outside
the Big ten wouldn't know as much about Camp Randle. Like,
I think Wisconsin's really cool, Wisconsin. I mean, Michigan's massive
and I'm saying this like, I seriously mean this, like
I've got a lot of family members that went there.
It's massive. There's just not a lot of character to it.
Would you agree with that? LeVar? Serious? I mean, yeah,
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it's just as big.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The ground that the ground and.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
When you drive up to it, when you drive up
to it, you can barely see it, like the one
end of the stadium, legit like, because when you enter
the stadium here at the top of it, like one
end of the stadium legitimately looks like there's nothing there.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
You could climb over it, right, it looks like it's
so low you could climb over the top of the
stadium because it goes so far like under sea level
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Though right right, I agree with you there.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
I mean, I mean I would say, okay, so I
would say, Ohio Stadium is the most character, Penn State
is the most, the loudest, Camp Reynold's probably the coolest,
and then Michigan is the biggest.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So there you go, and and and you would say,
just in and disagree with that. You wouldn't disagree.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
With based on your comments. You would say that the
Big House is the most overrated? Is that we're going
with Albert Well, I mean.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Like if you drive up to like I hope I've
alwready agree with this too, when you drive up to
Ohio State, it feels like you're driving up to the coliseum,
you know what I mean, Like, that's what it feels.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
And it's just and like Michigan's just it's it'shling.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What you want to say.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
It's not that loud either. That's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's not that loud. It's not that loud, right.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
And if you stay and they had this really stupid
thing where like they load quarters into marshmallows and throw
them at you, like that's supposed to hurt really and yeah,
they load quarters into marshmalls and throw them at you.
I mean, you go to Columbus, you go to Columbus
or State College, you're gonna get batteries store.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
You also, so you failed to mention that you get
an ass cheek and a half at Michigan Stadium as well.
That's why they're able to the numbers.
Speaker 9 (19:09):
You don't get a full two che true, that's true.
Ohio Stadium and Penn State and Ohio Stadium and at
Fever Stadium. They kept building the stadium up and up
and up. At Michigan, they just painted the numbers closer together.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Yes, that's how that you get an ass, cheek and
a half.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It better be a family member that you got tickets
next to.
Speaker 10 (19:32):
Hey, let me tell you, and I am on the
record with all of this, and and I think you'll
find people at thirteen or fourteen Big ten schools will
agree with everything.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I just said.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Hey, let me tell you something just off the top
of your head. Impromptu stadium rankings and the Big Ten.
That was as good as it gets right there. That
is well done by Albert Brier because it's going to
make people feel good and it's also going to piss
some people off. I'm sure in listening as well. So
that'll that'll happen there. I did want to ask you this,
though we saw the Jalen Hurts deal get done. I
(20:05):
don't know if it's official yet. I saw that it
hadn't been filed with the NFLPA or with the league yet,
but we saw the deal get done. So does this
help or hurt the chances of a Lamar Jackson deal
getting done with Baltimore soon?
Speaker 9 (20:20):
I don't think it affects it honestly, just because like
I think the Ravens were willing to do what the
Eagles did with with with Jalen Hurts, you know what
I mean. Like, so I I think if you know,
Lamar Jackson said I'll take Jalen Hurts his deal, I
think the Ravens would do it. And I mean, on
top of that, like I think these are two quarterbacks
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who are much different situations. I believe Jalen Hurts' career
earnings at this point it's like five or six million dollars, right, Like,
so you're talking about a guy like having you know,
hundreds of millions of dollars put in front of him
when he's only made six million bucks Lamar Jackson. You know,
if you include this year's franchise tag, his career earnings
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after this year is going to be up over sixty million.
So you know, if you've got tens of millions of
dollars in the bank, it's a lot easier for you
to sit and wait and hold your ground, you know.
And so I think it's two quarterbacks that are much
different positions. And I think that like, you know what
you see Jalen hurtst did is a traditional quarterback contract.
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It's a tick more than the guy's got last year,
which is the way this stuff works. And then you
know Justin Herbert will get a tick more than Ben
Jalen Hurt's got, and Joe Burrow will get a sick
more than than Justin Herbert got. And like, that's just
not the way that Lamar has negotiated this. If Lamar
was willing to play that game, this would have been
(21:42):
done a long time ago. He's obviously looking for something
different than what all these other guys that can get it.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
How does this compare to the Dak Prescott I remember
Dak Prescott's conversation getting pretty contentious, getting very very intense.
How does Lamar Jackson's conversations compare to Dak Prescott's And
in relation to it did take a long time?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
They got the training camp.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Before before uh Dak Prescott's did I believe if I
recall correctly, they had got the training camp? How does
this could they ended up getting a deal done with
Dak and everything was kumbaya and everybody all is forgiven,
all is well. Now, how do you see this comparing
to Lamar's situation?
Speaker 9 (22:30):
It's a little different because Dak wasn't a first round pick,
so you didn't have a fifty year option, which you know,
like now the Ravens and Lamar they're past the fifth
year option, so you're onto a franchise tag, which is
where Dak was. I think the primary difference, LeVar is
I think the Cowboys were looking to win the negotiation,
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and like I think the Cowboys sort of failed to
acknowledge that that market's not going to go down, you know,
like that mark them for the quarterback position. Hey, you know,
if you wait, you're going to wind up paying more.
And so, you know, I think the Cowboys are trying
to win the negotiation and trying to do something that
would help them manage the rest of their roster because
obviously they've got a lot of talent elsewhere in the
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roster they did at the time, you know. So like that,
I think as much as anything else, was the Cowboys
a trying to win the negotiation and be trying to
manage contract around everybody else's contract, and they wind up
losing in the end because of it. And I think
this is different in that, like, like again, like it's
just with the Ravens, it's about like, you know, I
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think it's about trying to do something that's a more
traditional contract structure, and Lamar wants, you know, again to
do something that's going to be groundbreaking. And I think
like the the thing about like Dak's contract is like
he winds up doing a contract that is of traditional
quarterback structure, and at this point, Lamar's not wanting to
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do that, and I think the Ravens are willing to
work with him to some degree on it. I just
don't think the Ravens want to lose in every category.
So yeah, I think it's going to take some level
of compromise from Lamar to get something done. I feel
like the Ravens feel like they've done everything they can
to compromise on their end.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You can get them on Twitter at Albert Briers, Senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. So we're a week away
from the Draft. I got to ask you what's the
most surprising or intriguing draft tidbit you've heard over the
past couple of days as we approach next week's first round.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Well, we've already been over like the idea that Houston
potentially couldn't might not take a quarterback too, which I think,
you know, if you said that to me a month ago,
I would have been a little surprised that I'd be
saying this a week before the draft. But you know,
I think Demiko Ryans, with a six year contract, has
made the case that, you know, there's some value in
(24:53):
taking a defensive player that high he of courses in
San Francisco four years ago when they took Nick Bosa
and you know, we've seen with Scotten them and they've
been to three conference title games in the super Bowl
in the four years since, you know, and you know,
I think the idea is, if you're not fully head
over heels for a quarterback, maybe you're better off taking
the defensive player and waiting until next year when you've
(25:15):
got Drake May and Caleb Williams coming into the draft.
You know, I would say the other thing is sort
of I would say, caught me a little bit off guard.
I can't find anybody who like loves will Levis, and
so you know, if you're talking about somebody potentially really
tumbling on Thursday night, and you know, like the guy
that we're all talking about ten o'clock eleven o'clock on
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Thursday night. It might be the Kentucky quarterback. You know,
I don't. I don't think it's I don't think his
interviews have gone particularly well. And you know, I think
the tape is kind of a little all over the place,
and so you know, I think Anthony Richardson goes in
front of him, and I think there's potential. I think
there's potential that Hendon Hooker could go in front of
him too. Like again, like again, it only takes one, right,
(26:01):
it only takes one. So maybe there's somebody looking in
the top ten that there really loves him. I just
can't find that team. And once you get outside the
top ten, I think, you know, you could be looking
at a guy who really wanted to sliding.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I would have thought that would have been Jayalen Carter,
that you would say these types of things about.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
I mean, I would say this though, you know, like LeVar, right,
I think with Jalen Carter, the talent is so over
the top, you know what I mean that? Yeah, Like
I think I think you can slide a little bit,
but I don't think it's gonna slide out of the
top dozen or so picks. You know, like I think
you know you're eventually And that's the problem with with
Jalen Carr. I mean, like he's I think the best
player in the drafts. The problem he has is like
(26:43):
a guy who's got the talent that he does and
is going to go as high as he should. Like
you look at the teams at the top of the draft,
what are those teams? What? What?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
What?
Speaker 9 (26:52):
What? What would you generally say about teams that are
up there? They're not very good. Sometimes they have new coaches,
maybe they're you know, with coaches who are in their
last legs. The locker room might not be very strong.
A lot of these teams probably do not have the
right environment to bring somebody like Jalen Carter along. That's
why you hear so much about the Eagles Ta gum right,
Like the Eagles had a ten pick. That's the same stick,
(27:15):
and you know, the Eagles have a very strong veteran
locker room. The Eagles have Nikobe Dean and Jordan Davis,
who you know, Jalen Carr played with at Georgia, So
they've got a ton of infrastructure to make it work
for him. I mean, you generally don't see a team
that was in the Super Bowl last year drafting in
the top ten. So that's why you hear them as
a potential suitor. Seattle. You know they're drafting fifth. Well,
(27:37):
they have somebody else's pick too, you know, and they
were in the playoffs last year, and they had the
infrastructure pay potentially to take somebody like that on. You know,
you hear Jalen Carr compared a lot to Warren Sapp,
and you know, I think, you know, it's interesting if
you look at SAP's careers, he went to a place
that maybe you didn't think was that great at the time,
but wound up being fantastic in Tampa where he had
(27:59):
Ton Doungee and Derek Brooks and John Lynch and all
these people around him, and he wound up becoming a
Hall of Famer. Like I think that that's the sort
of swing prospect that Jalen Carter is where basically go
really wrong if he goes to the wrong environment. Players
he goes to the right environment, he could wind up
being a great player for a long time.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Last one for me, Albert, we got about thirty seconds,
but I mentioned the Philadelphia Eagles. They've been looked at
as the team that's the favorite to take Bijon Robinson,
who everybody is the consensus number one running back in
the draft. How high could he go if because everything
you hear is that the talent is there, but it's
the running back position. How high are we talking about
(28:38):
the potential for Bijon Robinson next week?
Speaker 9 (28:40):
I mean, I mean, he might be the cleanest prospect
in the draft, like I you know, it's funny, like
when I was calling around, I was just talking about
Jalen Carter when I was calling around over the last
few weeks, you know, and I say, well, Jalen Carter's
the right the best player in the draft, right like
and the responsible gay is like him in the running backs,
you know what I mean? Like in the running back
the referencing of courses Robinson, everybody I've talked to says
(29:04):
he is in the same category as Ezekiel Elliott and
Sai Kuan Barkley were coming in like one of the
best running back prospects over the last ten years. And
that's why it's going to be so fascinating, you know,
because I think this is going to be a true
litmus test of how far the value of that position's fallen.
Where is there somebody in the top ten? Is there
somebody in the top twenty that's going to be willing
(29:24):
to take them? And the problem isn't that he's not
a great player. He is a great player. Everybody knows
he's a great player. The problem is just too easy
to find answers at running back. Like you look in
the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl champions are starting a
seventh round rookie and Isaiah Picheck out running back, and
then they got their former first round of Clyde Edwards.
Hilaire is a healthy scratch for the game. That's exactly why,
you know what I mean? Like, so you know, I
(29:46):
think that that he his Him and Jamiir Gibbs from
Alabama to a lesser degree, those two guys I think
are gonna be a really good litmus test of where
the running where the league stands on running backs, because
I think in Bijon you've got like a z faq
one type of prospects there. And then you know in
Jamier Gives, I think you have a guy a lot
of people will compare to Alvin Kamara. So how far
(30:08):
they fall, I think it's going to show us sort
of where the league stands on the position.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You know what's crazy you bring that up.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
In two thousand and five, the top five went Ronnie
Brown to Cedric Benson four and Cadillac.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Williams from Williams, you had three running backs in the
top five.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
And now we're to the point where you've got it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
Go and look at two thousand and eight. Two thousand
and eight, I think there were six or seven that
was like Darren mcspadden, Felix Jones, Rishard menden Hall, Like
there was that year and if you look like that
was an interesting year too, eight because if you look
at that year, I think there were six running backs
in the first round and then like some of the
best players in the position were outside of the first round.
It was like Matt Forte and Ray Rice and you
(30:53):
had all these guys that went outside of the first round.
And I mean, like, we don't have the time to
do it now, but I do think that there's a
larger discussion to be had here about like where the
athletes are going now. Like you know, in a lot
of cases, if you know you're a great fifteen year
old athlete, you're probably not playing running backs anymore. Like
whereas when we were all kids, a lot of times
(31:14):
the best athlete in your high school team is going
to be the tailback. Right now, I think you see
those kids gravitating to other positions because they see what's
happening at the upper level.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, you mentioned it, Darren McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones,
Rashard Mendenhall, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, Jamal Charles Kim, high tower.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
In the fifth Yeah, that's crazy, man. Yeah, that's a
that's a.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Really good draft class for running backs and probably never
ever going to see that again. It's it's wild to
think how far that position has fallen. Get him on
Twitter at Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB
and if you have a thought about you know, his
rankings when it comes to big ten stadiums, tough balls.
He said what he said, it's written in stone, and
he would be the guy to know since he's covered
(31:59):
that conference.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
You can send them to my phone's Twitter account.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yeah, I mean yes, that wouldn't be the first time
we have people beefing on Twitter with somebody that's on
our show.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Don't worry about that. Ad not the first one.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
I think I saw some things overnight.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You're not the first one to the party.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Weird now that happens. It is great to talk with Albert.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Albert will do it again next week.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
There he is.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
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brand new Jacksonville Jaguar. I like to refer to him
(34:16):
of our as the people's wide receiver, right. This is
a guy just like the rest of us. Likes to
gamble a little bit. You know, if it cost him
a year of his career, so be it. Guy likes
to throw down a few bets, likes to do seven
leg parlays. To me, that feels like somebody I can
relate to, somebody that I probably bumped into in Las
Vegas or on a cruise ship somewhere wondering why the
(34:37):
penny slot machines aren't paying out like they were the
day before. That's my kind of guy. But Calvin Ridley
did talk with the media about what we can expect
from him. Now, keep in mind, last time we saw
him on the football field, he wasn't exactly healthy. He
got a banged up foot and all that stuff that
was involved. But take a listen to the Jaguars wide receiver.
Speaker 11 (34:58):
I am a fourteen hundred yard type of player. Guy
is gonna determine what type of stats.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I'm going to have.
Speaker 11 (35:04):
And you know, football is not just you know, football
is serious. I mean, you don't just play seventeen games
straight and think you're gonna be in every one of
them and playing healthy in all of them. So what
I'm saying is I am a fourteen hundred yard sie would.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
A broke foot.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Now here's the opportunity at some comedy. If you're a
sports book anywhere in the country, the first thing you
do upon hearing those comments.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Is put money down on the fact that Calvin Ridley's
going to get more than fourteen hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
You make the over under at fourteen hundred yards. If
you are a sports book and you've got a comedic
bone in your body, and I don't want anybody to
take this and say, will you know you're making light
of the fact that he gambled on games, big deal.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
He wasn't affecting the outcomes of games. He wasn't even there.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
The guy put fifteen hundred dollars on a couple of bets,
just like the rest of us and lost the year. Yeah,
he served his time. So if you've got a comedic
bone in your boy, and you're a sports book out
there and you want to make some waves, you want
to make some headlines, set the receiver yardage over under
for Calvin Ridley at fourteen hundred and a half.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
All right, do it.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
For the good of the people and the people's wide receiver.
That's what I say. LeVar Arrington, you know what I'm
talking about here. I put them up on some game.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I hear you, I hear you. Listen. Good for him.
I hope he's healthy.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Calvin Ridley, if you paid attention to his career, is
a fine receiver from Alabama. Yeah, I mean has the
potential to be a whole lot more than what he
already has been even in the league.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, it's going to
be interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
By the way, Jacksonville is going to be a fun
team to watch next year. Like that's I mean, I
have no idea what the hell's going to happen with
Tennessee and Indianapolis and Houston will figure out a way
to screw it up. But as we've talked about, they
were a playoff team a year ago. They had that
incredible comeback against the Chargers. It just feels like Trevor
Lawrence hit another gear and that team's going to be
(37:04):
really fun to watch next season. So good good for
the city of Jacksonville. No more clown outs in week
eighteen of the season.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Either it's a.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Bummer, okay okay.
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The Way tire buying should be. So a familiar name
spoke about the differences between last year at this time
and this year at this time, and that's certain. Somebody
(01:29):
is Deshaun Watson of your Cleveland Browns. Deshaun Watson last
scene having to testify under oath as to his involvement
in a against him.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, what number did he claim? Again?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
What was?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That was the latest from Deshaun Watson. Well, he did
speak with the media.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
On the advice of my lawyer, I assert my rights
under the Fifth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Fifth.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Good have Carl Lewis joining us here on the program.
But we do hear from Deshaun Watson who talked about
just sort of the differences between last year this year,
everything going on as they approach the draft and get
ready for another season in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Here was the Browns QB.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
I mean, honestly, it's night and day. You know, I'm
last year. I've never been to Cleveland, only twice when
I came on a pre visit and when we played.
Outside of that, you know, it was my first time
up here with everything going on. But you know, all
that is in the past, like I said before, and
I'm looking to move forward with my life. And my
career and just being able to really plant myself in
(02:39):
this community, in this city and then also in this
organization for a very very long time and win a
whole bunch of games.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, So it's definitely not in the past, just so
you know, just so he's aware, because it's still currently
going on. There's still two outstanding situations happening with Shaw
Watson and cases against him last checked, and I would.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Definitely not as intense as it has been though he's
gotten through the eye of the storm.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, although do you think it's a little ill advised
for Deshaun Watson to still be in Houston training during
the offseason. Seems like that's a place where there could
be some problems, you know, like he's had a track
record there, dude.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Just for me, Deshaun Watson is in his mind clear
of any type of culpability to this scenario, Jonas and.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To do anything.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
And this is interesting, I'm about to say, because you
could take it however you want to take it. To
do anything differently than what you did during the time
that you were accused of. What you were accused of
would insinuate guilt. So if you're talking about Deshaun Watson
(03:54):
is still doing the same exact things he was doing
before all of this, Like we're on the other side
of it. He's still training in Texas. He's still taking
his familiar approach to how he's preparing you work that
math out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Don't believe in the word triggers when it comes to
people who have a problem and certain things can t I.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Have triggers, Okay, I have triggers. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So, like I would say that if you knew somebody
who was an alcoholic, probably would recommend they walk a
different way into work, as opposed to right by the
liquor store they used to get all their booze from
and sink into the office.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Or a breakroom that has liquor in a refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
A great point is a great place if.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
You know that you have someone who struggles with that,
or you know it's a trigger, you know you don't
you pay attention to that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yes, now, now this is we're not speaking on behalf
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
There are no boos in the breakroom here.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I mean this is a not that I've seen, and
I don't know of any alcoholics on our on our
on our roster. No, no, but I don't have all
that personal informason either. Maybe Berto, Yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know, I don't think it's Berto.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
But since we're on the subject of alcohol, the photo
that Lee's sent to us on our group text chain yesterday,
Todd Okay, well we'll get to that here coming up
in just a couple of moments. But the point is
when it comes to Deshaun Watson before we get derailed
on Todd Talk here on Thursday. But the point with
(05:32):
Deshaun Watson, the idea that he's got all these issues
with the city of Houston and there's just problems there.
The fact that he's still there working out is kind
of a to me. If I were advising Deshaun Watson,
I'd say, hey, man, why don't we uh, you know,
should go hang out in Cleveland a little bit? You know,
you don't you don't know the surroundings, The neon lights
(05:52):
might hit it a little different when you walk by him.
Maybe that's not the place you want to hang out in.
But point is he's there.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So you're saying you used to and as his trigger.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Seems like there's a lot going on thereg.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
His trigger for a gun happy. Okay, I was wondering
if you will laugh. I was wondering if he was
going to laugh. I wonder how many people like finish
my sentence for me out there in radio land.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I can't, but I'm sure somebody did.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I am not going to do that Johnson.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
For some reason, Lee nodded his head, though I don't
know why that was.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Feels like he's got a free fast to do so.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
But when it comes to the subject of the Browns
next year, this is kind of an interesting off season
into next season for Cleveland because what if, for whatever reason,
there's an issue with Deshaun Watson playing and he doesn't
play at a high level, and he struggled at times
last year certainly, and he can talk about the night
(06:53):
and day differences between learning the offense.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And all that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
If they go out and they have somewhat of a
disappointing season, is Kevin Stefanski going to.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Be there the year after or is this a yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
This just feels like it's approved year and Stefanski's future
in Cleveland rides solely on whether or not Deshaun Watson
can pick up the offense and put down his bad habits.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I'm curious as to who all will go if Deshaun
Watson fails as the quarterback of Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Do you think there's some people that might have an
issue with the transaction and getting to Shaun Watson? They
could be on the hot seat too.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean why not?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I mean that is again, we're looking at all of
the drama that's playing out with Lamar Jackson and it's
based upon Shaun Watson. Yes, now you're looking at the
idea that people don't want to make that type of
commitment in the National Football League, But the Cleveland Browns did.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Who did it? Who made that decision? The Browns? I mean,
but who?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, the office, the general.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
But who whoever is the whoever was a part of
that deal being done. You're at risk. You're at risk.
I'm gonna tell you right now. Wile, while the AFC
North wasn't the the Krim Dela Creme for for once
and in all of the history of the National Football
(08:25):
League last year, wasn't the most dominant of divisions in
the NFL last year.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But that's still the AFC North.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They play defense in the AFC North, Cleveland they play defense.
Baltimore one hundred percent they played defense. Pittsburgh one hundred percent.
They play defense. And now Cincinnati is the new boss
bully on the block and in the AFC North and
they play defense. And you got a outduel, you gotta
(08:56):
outduel Joe Burrow, who is considered you know, I mean,
he's a top two, top three quarterback in the National
Football League right now, yep. And if they get Lamar
Jackson back, you have one of the top franchise quarterbacks
in Baltimore in that division right now. So the things
that like the Texans, like, okay, he had a good
(09:19):
career in Texas, but who was he playing, Like what
was his staunch competition?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Like what did he really.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Have to do and deal with playing with the Texas, which,
by the way, they weren't very good.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Their four and twelve final year. They're terrible in Houston.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
To me, it almost it almost lines up that he
will not he first of all, he will not outplay
his contract.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Like let's get that part of it.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Clear, Like you can we can easily like answer that
he will not outplay his contract. You will not look
at Deshaun Watson and be like, Deshaun Watson is showing
why they gave him that contract.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That will not happen.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
There's one player who possibly outplayed that contract. That was
Tom Brady, and that was because he won seven Super Bowls.
Deshaun Watson not happening, not even in the same realm
as far as just the quality of play and what
he brought in returns, as far as return on investment
goes on the contract.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I would agree with you. That's just not going
to happen.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
It's just not going to happen. And I mean you
mentioned Tom Brady. You can throw a Patrick Mahomes into
the mix, but that's probably it. Aaron Rodgers, that's probably it. Yeah,
Like literally, for as good as the other quarterbacks in
this league are, that's probably it. That you're looking at
(10:47):
names of guys where you'd say their resume says they'll
outplay the contract that they've been given or it'll be
justified that contract. There's nothing about any of these other
quarterbacks in the league that says it's justified to give
that type of a contract to period. But he got it.
(11:08):
So you know who wins no matter how Deshaun Watson
plays next year.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
There you go, and and Andrew Berry the GM he's
been and obviously they had success early on, but this
also points to if this fails with Deshaun Watson, say
they don't make the playoffs this upcoming year, and if
you look at that division right now, depending on what
happens with Lamar Jackson and Baltimore, it's fair to say
(11:33):
that there's a real chance that they could be the
third team in that division because Cincinnati, as you pointed
out as number one, Baltimore feels like you would give
them a little bit of an edge over Cleveland, and
who the hell knows with Kenny Pickett and Alan Robinson
and year two for Kenny Pickett, whether or not the
Steelers make a jumps. It's a tricky division when it
comes to all that. And so you've got Stefanski who
(11:56):
went to the playoffs this first year in the COVID year,
Baker Mayfield was the quarterback, they come back, They had
a sub five hundred year the next year, and then
last year was a below five hundred year again for Cleveland.
And you could say, well, Deshaun Watson missed eleven games,
so you kind of cut him a little bit of
a break. Okay, yes, but him missing eleven games, Andrew
(12:19):
Berry and the organization, to your point, knew that that
was gonna be on deck here. And so if we
come back another year and he's there a full season,
I just feel like heads are gonna roll and it's
definitely not gonna be Deshaun Watson because of the contract,
and so all those people are gonna be held accountable
and all those people aren't Deshaun Watson. And that's why
I look at this and go He can say it's
(12:39):
night and day difference, and I get all that off
the field, but if it's not a stark difference to
what his performance was last year, there's gonna be people
out of jobs next year. It's the way it goes.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
But Deshaun Watson can just play within himself. Deshaun Watson
doesn't have to be anything else other than Deshaun Watson. Yeah,
train in Uston, get your get your therapeutic sessions done
in Houston and other places. Have the stand up towel
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in the corner back in play. You're just going to
do things differently now, Jonas. You know, like instead of
trusting that that what you're doing and who you're doing
it with and how you're doing it is going to
be perceived and received the right way. You take. You
take all precautions. If you're going to work on me,
(13:32):
you're going to sign an NDA. If you're going to
work on me, you're there are certain assurances that are
going to take place that are going to protect me.
So he's he's this is called adapting and adjusting. So again,
like my original point, he doesn't feel like he's ever
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done anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And for what it's worth, maybe he didn't.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Maybe he didn't, But in the end, that man has
got a whole lot of scratch. And if you think
the pressure is on him, you know, think again, Like
it's a maybe it's a personal pressure to prove it,
but that man got his money.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe. Here Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Anox with you. You can listen
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Bowl run for one team.
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Speaker 8 (14:56):
Just fine, going on.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
One and all.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
And then and end up like this. It was only
a kiss. Now she's calling a gap and I'm not
in a slope.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with the here coming up in
a little over twenty minutes from now, there's an opportunity
at some comedy in the NFL. I don't know that
anybody will take him up on it, but there's an
opportunity here.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
We will get to that.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Here coming up a little over twenty minutes from now,
we are going to catch up with the Great Albert
Breer here momentarily. I mean, I don't know why we're
playing Michigan's celebration song in ann arborot.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Let's see when we got Albert Breer coming up?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
He says, let's see, Yeah, that toobies.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
But it's just the price we pay tested me.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Calling me.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Right now, we do talk to the Great Albert Brier
senior NFL reporter at the m m QB. You can
get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. Albert, what's happening.
How's your Thursday?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Hi? Well it was good.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
It was good until you guys played that song that
reminded me of that dump.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Okay, all right, Albert?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
How many Big ten stadiums? Since we're just on the
topic now, how many Big ten stadiums have you been to?
And where does ann Arbor and the Big House rank
for you amongst all stadiums you've been to.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Well, i'd have to I mean, I don't know. I
have to think about it. Because when I was in college,
I covered the football team, so I've been to a bunch.
I would say, like, I still say that this is
like unbiased, right, but but I still think Ohio Stadium's
got the most character of all of them. I think
I'll give you this, LeVar. I think Tenna State's the loudest. Okay,
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and I think the one I think the one that
like is probably a little wonder at that people outside
the Big ten wouldn't know as much about Camp Randle. Like,
I think Wisconsin's really cool, Wisconsin. I mean, Michigan's massive
and I'm saying this like, I seriously mean this, like
I've got a lot of family members that went there.
It's massive. There's just not a lot of character to it.
Would you agree with that? LeVar? Serious? I mean, yeah,
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it's just as big.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The ground that the ground and.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
When you drive up to it, when you drive up
to it, you can barely see it, like the one
end of the stadium, legit like, because when you enter
the stadium here at the top of it, like one
end of the stadium legitimately looks like there's nothing there.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
You could climb over it, right, it looks like it's
so low you could climb over the top of the
stadium because it goes so far like under sea level
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Though right right, I agree with you there.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
I mean, I mean I would say, okay, so I
would say, Ohio Stadium is the most character, Penn State
is the most, the loudest, Camp Reynold's probably the coolest,
and then Michigan is the biggest.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So there you go, and and and you would say,
just in and disagree with that. You wouldn't disagree.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
With based on your comments. You would say that the
Big House is the most overrated? Is that we're going
with Albert Well, I mean.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Like if you drive up to like I hope I've
alwready agree with this too, when you drive up to
Ohio State, it feels like you're driving up to the coliseum,
you know what I mean, Like, that's what it feels.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
And it's just and like Michigan's just it's it'shling.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What you want to say.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
It's not that loud either. That's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's not that loud. It's not that loud, right.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
And if you stay and they had this really stupid
thing where like they load quarters into marshmallows and throw
them at you, like that's supposed to hurt really and yeah,
they load quarters into marshmalls and throw them at you.
I mean, you go to Columbus, you go to Columbus
or State College, you're gonna get batteries store.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
You also, so you failed to mention that you get
an ass cheek and a half at Michigan Stadium as well.
That's why they're able to the numbers.
Speaker 9 (19:09):
You don't get a full two che true, that's true.
Ohio Stadium and Penn State and Ohio Stadium and at
Fever Stadium. They kept building the stadium up and up
and up. At Michigan, they just painted the numbers closer together.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Yes, that's how that you get an ass, cheek and
a half.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It better be a family member that you got tickets
next to.
Speaker 10 (19:32):
Hey, let me tell you, and I am on the
record with all of this, and and I think you'll
find people at thirteen or fourteen Big ten schools will
agree with everything.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I just said.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Hey, let me tell you something just off the top
of your head. Impromptu stadium rankings and the Big Ten.
That was as good as it gets right there. That
is well done by Albert Brier because it's going to
make people feel good and it's also going to piss
some people off. I'm sure in listening as well. So
that'll that'll happen there. I did want to ask you this,
though we saw the Jalen Hurts deal get done. I
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don't know if it's official yet. I saw that it
hadn't been filed with the NFLPA or with the league yet,
but we saw the deal get done. So does this
help or hurt the chances of a Lamar Jackson deal
getting done with Baltimore soon?
Speaker 9 (20:20):
I don't think it affects it honestly, just because like
I think the Ravens were willing to do what the
Eagles did with with with Jalen Hurts, you know what
I mean. Like, so I I think if you know,
Lamar Jackson said I'll take Jalen Hurts his deal, I
think the Ravens would do it. And I mean, on
top of that, like I think these are two quarterbacks
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who are much different situations. I believe Jalen Hurts' career
earnings at this point it's like five or six million dollars, right, Like,
so you're talking about a guy like having you know,
hundreds of millions of dollars put in front of him
when he's only made six million bucks Lamar Jackson. You know,
if you include this year's franchise tag, his career earnings
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after this year is going to be up over sixty million.
So you know, if you've got tens of millions of
dollars in the bank, it's a lot easier for you
to sit and wait and hold your ground, you know.
And so I think it's two quarterbacks that are much
different positions. And I think that like, you know what
you see Jalen hurtst did is a traditional quarterback contract.
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It's a tick more than the guy's got last year,
which is the way this stuff works. And then you
know Justin Herbert will get a tick more than Ben
Jalen Hurt's got, and Joe Burrow will get a sick
more than than Justin Herbert got. And like, that's just
not the way that Lamar has negotiated this. If Lamar
was willing to play that game, this would have been
(21:42):
done a long time ago. He's obviously looking for something
different than what all these other guys that can get it.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
How does this compare to the Dak Prescott I remember
Dak Prescott's conversation getting pretty contentious, getting very very intense.
How does Lamar Jackson's conversations compare to Dak Prescott's And
in relation to it did take a long time?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
They got the training camp.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Before before uh Dak Prescott's did I believe if I
recall correctly, they had got the training camp? How does
this could they ended up getting a deal done with
Dak and everything was kumbaya and everybody all is forgiven,
all is well. Now, how do you see this comparing
to Lamar's situation?
Speaker 9 (22:30):
It's a little different because Dak wasn't a first round pick,
so you didn't have a fifty year option, which you know,
like now the Ravens and Lamar they're past the fifth
year option, so you're onto a franchise tag, which is
where Dak was. I think the primary difference, LeVar is
I think the Cowboys were looking to win the negotiation,
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and like I think the Cowboys sort of failed to
acknowledge that that market's not going to go down, you know,
like that mark them for the quarterback position. Hey, you know,
if you wait, you're going to wind up paying more.
And so, you know, I think the Cowboys are trying
to win the negotiation and trying to do something that
would help them manage the rest of their roster because
obviously they've got a lot of talent elsewhere in the
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roster they did at the time, you know. So like that,
I think as much as anything else, was the Cowboys
a trying to win the negotiation and be trying to
manage contract around everybody else's contract, and they wind up
losing in the end because of it. And I think
this is different in that, like, like again, like it's
just with the Ravens, it's about like, you know, I
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think it's about trying to do something that's a more
traditional contract structure, and Lamar wants, you know, again to
do something that's going to be groundbreaking. And I think
like the the thing about like Dak's contract is like
he winds up doing a contract that is of traditional
quarterback structure, and at this point, Lamar's not wanting to
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do that, and I think the Ravens are willing to
work with him to some degree on it. I just
don't think the Ravens want to lose in every category.
So yeah, I think it's going to take some level
of compromise from Lamar to get something done. I feel
like the Ravens feel like they've done everything they can
to compromise on their end.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You can get them on Twitter at Albert Briers, Senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. So we're a week away
from the Draft. I got to ask you what's the
most surprising or intriguing draft tidbit you've heard over the
past couple of days as we approach next week's first round.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Well, we've already been over like the idea that Houston
potentially couldn't might not take a quarterback too, which I think,
you know, if you said that to me a month ago,
I would have been a little surprised that I'd be
saying this a week before the draft. But you know,
I think Demiko Ryans, with a six year contract, has
made the case that, you know, there's some value in
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taking a defensive player that high he of courses in
San Francisco four years ago when they took Nick Bosa
and you know, we've seen with Scotten them and they've
been to three conference title games in the super Bowl
in the four years since, you know, and you know,
I think the idea is, if you're not fully head
over heels for a quarterback, maybe you're better off taking
the defensive player and waiting until next year when you've
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got Drake May and Caleb Williams coming into the draft.
You know, I would say the other thing is sort
of I would say, caught me a little bit off guard.
I can't find anybody who like loves will Levis, and
so you know, if you're talking about somebody potentially really
tumbling on Thursday night, and you know, like the guy
that we're all talking about ten o'clock eleven o'clock on
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Thursday night. It might be the Kentucky quarterback. You know,
I don't. I don't think it's I don't think his
interviews have gone particularly well. And you know, I think
the tape is kind of a little all over the place,
and so you know, I think Anthony Richardson goes in
front of him, and I think there's potential. I think
there's potential that Hendon Hooker could go in front of
him too. Like again, like again, it only takes one, right,
(26:01):
it only takes one. So maybe there's somebody looking in
the top ten that there really loves him. I just
can't find that team. And once you get outside the
top ten, I think, you know, you could be looking
at a guy who really wanted to sliding.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I would have thought that would have been Jayalen Carter,
that you would say these types of things about.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
I mean, I would say this though, you know, like LeVar, right,
I think with Jalen Carter, the talent is so over
the top, you know what I mean that? Yeah, Like
I think I think you can slide a little bit,
but I don't think it's gonna slide out of the
top dozen or so picks. You know, like I think
you know you're eventually And that's the problem with with
Jalen Carr. I mean, like he's I think the best
player in the drafts. The problem he has is like
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a guy who's got the talent that he does and
is going to go as high as he should. Like
you look at the teams at the top of the draft,
what are those teams? What? What?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
What?
Speaker 9 (26:52):
What? What would you generally say about teams that are
up there? They're not very good. Sometimes they have new coaches,
maybe they're you know, with coaches who are in their
last legs. The locker room might not be very strong.
A lot of these teams probably do not have the
right environment to bring somebody like Jalen Carter along. That's
why you hear so much about the Eagles Ta gum right,
Like the Eagles had a ten pick. That's the same stick,
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and you know, the Eagles have a very strong veteran
locker room. The Eagles have Nikobe Dean and Jordan Davis,
who you know, Jalen Carr played with at Georgia, So
they've got a ton of infrastructure to make it work
for him. I mean, you generally don't see a team
that was in the Super Bowl last year drafting in
the top ten. So that's why you hear them as
a potential suitor. Seattle. You know they're drafting fifth. Well,
(27:37):
they have somebody else's pick too, you know, and they
were in the playoffs last year, and they had the
infrastructure pay potentially to take somebody like that on. You know,
you hear Jalen Carr compared a lot to Warren Sapp,
and you know, I think, you know, it's interesting if
you look at SAP's careers, he went to a place
that maybe you didn't think was that great at the time,
but wound up being fantastic in Tampa where he had
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Ton Doungee and Derek Brooks and John Lynch and all
these people around him, and he wound up becoming a
Hall of Famer. Like I think that that's the sort
of swing prospect that Jalen Carter is where basically go
really wrong if he goes to the wrong environment. Players
he goes to the right environment, he could wind up
being a great player for a long time.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Last one for me, Albert, we got about thirty seconds,
but I mentioned the Philadelphia Eagles. They've been looked at
as the team that's the favorite to take Bijon Robinson,
who everybody is the consensus number one running back in
the draft. How high could he go if because everything
you hear is that the talent is there, but it's
the running back position. How high are we talking about
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the potential for Bijon Robinson next week?
Speaker 9 (28:40):
I mean, I mean, he might be the cleanest prospect
in the draft, like I you know, it's funny, like
when I was calling around, I was just talking about
Jalen Carter when I was calling around over the last
few weeks, you know, and I say, well, Jalen Carter's
the right the best player in the draft, right like
and the responsible gay is like him in the running backs,
you know what I mean? Like in the running back
the referencing of courses Robinson, everybody I've talked to says
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he is in the same category as Ezekiel Elliott and
Sai Kuan Barkley were coming in like one of the
best running back prospects over the last ten years. And
that's why it's going to be so fascinating, you know,
because I think this is going to be a true
litmus test of how far the value of that position's fallen.
Where is there somebody in the top ten? Is there
somebody in the top twenty that's going to be willing
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to take them? And the problem isn't that he's not
a great player. He is a great player. Everybody knows
he's a great player. The problem is just too easy
to find answers at running back. Like you look in
the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl champions are starting a
seventh round rookie and Isaiah Picheck out running back, and
then they got their former first round of Clyde Edwards.
Hilaire is a healthy scratch for the game. That's exactly why,
you know what I mean? Like, so you know, I
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think that that he his Him and Jamiir Gibbs from
Alabama to a lesser degree, those two guys I think
are gonna be a really good litmus test of where
the running where the league stands on running backs, because
I think in Bijon you've got like a z faq
one type of prospects there. And then you know in
Jamier Gives, I think you have a guy a lot
of people will compare to Alvin Kamara. So how far
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they fall, I think it's going to show us sort
of where the league stands on the position.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You know what's crazy you bring that up.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
In two thousand and five, the top five went Ronnie
Brown to Cedric Benson four and Cadillac.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Williams from Williams, you had three running backs in the
top five.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
And now we're to the point where you've got it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
Go and look at two thousand and eight. Two thousand
and eight, I think there were six or seven that
was like Darren mcspadden, Felix Jones, Rishard menden Hall, Like
there was that year and if you look like that
was an interesting year too, eight because if you look
at that year, I think there were six running backs
in the first round and then like some of the
best players in the position were outside of the first round.
It was like Matt Forte and Ray Rice and you
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had all these guys that went outside of the first round.
And I mean, like, we don't have the time to
do it now, but I do think that there's a
larger discussion to be had here about like where the
athletes are going now. Like you know, in a lot
of cases, if you know you're a great fifteen year
old athlete, you're probably not playing running backs anymore. Like
whereas when we were all kids, a lot of times
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the best athlete in your high school team is going
to be the tailback. Right now, I think you see
those kids gravitating to other positions because they see what's
happening at the upper level.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, you mentioned it, Darren McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones,
Rashard Mendenhall, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, Jamal Charles Kim, high tower.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
In the fifth Yeah, that's crazy, man. Yeah, that's a
that's a.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Really good draft class for running backs and probably never
ever going to see that again. It's it's wild to
think how far that position has fallen. Get him on
Twitter at Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB
and if you have a thought about you know, his
rankings when it comes to big ten stadiums, tough balls.
He said what he said, it's written in stone, and
he would be the guy to know since he's covered
(31:59):
that conference.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
You can send them to my phone's Twitter account.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yeah, I mean yes, that wouldn't be the first time
we have people beefing on Twitter with somebody that's on
our show.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Don't worry about that. Ad not the first one.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
I think I saw some things overnight.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You're not the first one to the party.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Weird now that happens. It is great to talk with Albert.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Albert will do it again next week.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
There he is.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Albert Briers, Senior enter for reporter at the MMQB. It
is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio.
All right, So coming up next here from the tiraq
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Speaker 1 (32:38):
Will they take it? We'll get into that for you
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brand new Jacksonville Jaguar. I like to refer to him
(34:16):
of our as the people's wide receiver, right. This is
a guy just like the rest of us. Likes to
gamble a little bit. You know, if it cost him
a year of his career, so be it. Guy likes
to throw down a few bets, likes to do seven
leg parlays. To me, that feels like somebody I can
relate to, somebody that I probably bumped into in Las
Vegas or on a cruise ship somewhere wondering why the
(34:37):
penny slot machines aren't paying out like they were the
day before. That's my kind of guy. But Calvin Ridley
did talk with the media about what we can expect
from him. Now, keep in mind, last time we saw
him on the football field, he wasn't exactly healthy. He
got a banged up foot and all that stuff that
was involved. But take a listen to the Jaguars wide receiver.
Speaker 11 (34:58):
I am a fourteen hundred yard type of player. Guy
is gonna determine what type of stats.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I'm going to have.
Speaker 11 (35:04):
And you know, football is not just you know, football
is serious. I mean, you don't just play seventeen games
straight and think you're gonna be in every one of
them and playing healthy in all of them. So what
I'm saying is I am a fourteen hundred yard sie would.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
A broke foot.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Now here's the opportunity at some comedy. If you're a
sports book anywhere in the country, the first thing you
do upon hearing those comments.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Is put money down on the fact that Calvin Ridley's
going to get more than fourteen hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
You make the over under at fourteen hundred yards. If
you are a sports book and you've got a comedic
bone in your body, and I don't want anybody to
take this and say, will you know you're making light
of the fact that he gambled on games, big deal.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
He wasn't affecting the outcomes of games. He wasn't even there.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
The guy put fifteen hundred dollars on a couple of bets,
just like the rest of us and lost the year. Yeah,
he served his time. So if you've got a comedic
bone in your boy, and you're a sports book out
there and you want to make some waves, you want
to make some headlines, set the receiver yardage over under
for Calvin Ridley at fourteen hundred and a half.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
All right, do it.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
For the good of the people and the people's wide receiver.
That's what I say. LeVar Arrington, you know what I'm
talking about here. I put them up on some game.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I hear you, I hear you. Listen. Good for him.
I hope he's healthy.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Calvin Ridley, if you paid attention to his career, is
a fine receiver from Alabama. Yeah, I mean has the
potential to be a whole lot more than what he
already has been even in the league.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, it's going to
be interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
By the way, Jacksonville is going to be a fun
team to watch next year. Like that's I mean, I
have no idea what the hell's going to happen with
Tennessee and Indianapolis and Houston will figure out a way
to screw it up. But as we've talked about, they
were a playoff team a year ago. They had that
incredible comeback against the Chargers. It just feels like Trevor
Lawrence hit another gear and that team's going to be
(37:04):
really fun to watch next season. So good good for
the city of Jacksonville. No more clown outs in week
eighteen of the season.
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