May 2, 2023 • 35 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to the NFL Draft bringing in record breaking viewership. Aaron Rodgers is already throwing in New York and there’s no way he’s not in the MVP conversation this season. Plus, a debate between football movies and baseball movies on “Would You Rather…?”
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Arrington, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here Tuesday? Huh, Hey, Coop,
Hey Eddie. Everyone just looking around waving hey.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
For How do you like the new studio? Yeah? I
like it.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's definitely a much better set up than the older one,
A little bit more spacious. I heard you more, you
can see more, yeah everything, Yeah, yeah. I grew up
a fan of Seymour yea for some reason.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I think he was my starter kit, to be honest,
if I'm recollecting.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Correct, I've heard that about you.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I mean that was my special I guess that's why
I became my specialty, you know, because he ruined me.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'll say this though, it is pretty cool to be, uh,
you know, doing a show in the presence of some
of the foundational pieces of the fel's popularity, you know,
a couple like the founding fathers of one of the
great NFL events, just you know, just feel like this.
You know, it's a real opportunity here to do this
show with you guys, because you see the ratings and
(01:13):
the number of people that watch the draft. How does
it feel to know that you guys paved the way
as a couple of first round draft picks for the
fifty four point four million people that tuned in to
watch the draft over the past the past few days.
Then how many people want yesterday? You think? Not that many?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, NBA, not that many, NHL combined, nothing, not even combined,
not even close to fifty four point four million. That's amazing. Yeah,
So how much do you think they generated? Knowing that
they would, you know, kind of project those numbers for viewing?
What do you think like the sales were for that, the.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
All revenue like sponsorship and all that stuff. I'd have
no idea. I wouldn't even know how to they did,
Okay that I'd be curious to know what they're trying
to look.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Up, like what ESPN pays for the rights of the draft.
I'd be curious.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, And I mean I would probably tell you the
story right there, and it was.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The joint broadcast because you had NFL network, He had ESPN.
Tell me if this is a crazy thought, because I
was actually thinking about this looking at the numbers, I
think that the draft, I think if you were to
ask people listening right now on Fox Sports Radio, you
have your choice. You can watch pick any of the
other three sport major sporting event. It could be the
(02:36):
World Series, it could be the NBA Finals, the Stanley
Cup Final. You could watch that, or the NFL Draft.
What would you pick? I think they choose the NFL Draft,
and it's a non sporting event, there's no actual game
attached to it. But I think majority of the people
would choose the NFL Draft. You're probably the other one.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You're probably I mean a boy a sound of the numbers,
I mean it sounds like you're not incorrect. I mean,
you're they were battling other other sporting events.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
If that's the case of Super Bowl is king and
the NFL Draft is second over those other sports. That
ought to show you just the hold that the NFL has.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, what was the National Championship ratings? Were they high
towards the end of the game. Towards the end of
the game, probably not that high.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
There are somewhere there, Some are pretty high up there.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So I mean, when we put NCAA championship like the
football Championship.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I think though that's what the glory of the draft is.
It's a combination of the intrigue from college football fans
and NFL fans, which is why it probably ends up
being Again, this is over a three day period, though
this wasn't like just Thursday.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They did a little over eleven million just for Thursday combined. Yeah,
that's a lot. Yeah, so they did it. Just sounds
like our numbers. It's a great part our show.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, shouts out to all are people out there that
eleven million or so, you know, give or take that.
Listen to us and tune in and support us.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Tell another person too, like let's double this up, get
to twenty two million.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, let's get there. Appreciate y'all, let's make it happen
to that. But I just I look at it and
then also look some of the buzz, some of the
drama that led into the draft, some of the storylines
you know, maybe you know that might have involved members
of this show, you know, and just their thoughts on
on answering a question about a certain quarterback that might
have gone number two overall of the Houston Texans. I
(04:32):
feel like those storylines helped some of the draft buzz
going into Oh No, I'm just saying, like you as
somebody who's a foundational piece to the NFL draft, a
former NFL draft pick, never a first round pick, both
of you guys, and who.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Also enjoys taking pictures with agents that are connected to
the players that are going in the draft.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But mind you, what do you shots out? Shots out
to you? Q? What are you talking about that?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I love how you enjoy the selfie picks, you know,
with your agent And so me and David, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It was c J.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Strouds.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
What a guy?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
What a guy? What an absolute.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
So I get caught up in the middle of him
trying to, you know, act like he's protecting his player,
and I'm like, well, I'm a fan of your players,
so it's kind of interesting that I get you get
put me in the crossfire.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Just an absolute d bag.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I mean, does does anybody take more selfies with their
players than that dude?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Geez or the media that helps defend his dudes. Hey,
So here's the research on ESPN. So they're the rights
to the draft are wrapped up in what they pay
uh for the NFL as well, which what got kind
of talked about when they when they redid the licensing rights,
uh for the NFL was the Monday Night Football kind
(05:49):
of flexibility They talked about potentially maybe some some flex
scheduling for what they get.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
From Monday Football.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
They put a ton of money into it, but they
also get the draft as part of it. So if
you think about it from ESPN standpoint, it makes a
lot of sense. They obviously have invested heavily in college football,
in particular the SEC. And who has the most players
drafted this year? The SEC, I think was tied with
the Big Ten, but it's had the most for the
past seventeen years.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So it really makes sense.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
From being someone who focuses a lot on college football
to take in to the draft and then also have
the rights to the NFL as well.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
What a bonanza man the NFL. And look, I don't
know if it was Roger Goodell who came up with
the idea, let's start moving this thing around. If it
was him that was really pushing it, he gets a
lot of criticism. Whoever's idea was to go from let's
move it from New York, go to Chicago for a
couple of years, go to Philly. I believe they went
to Dallas, Nashville, now Kansas City. It's turned into one
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of those Yeah, we want the draft as well too.
I can't like, I've never been to Kansas City, but
I would imagine some of the local establishments, some of
the local businesses there. Paul made a killing. Had to um.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, so just to see it for you, shouts out
the KC and the barbecue.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, just to see the NFL tour? Now, Now, how
do they figure out a way to make the NFL
schedule release kind of as big of a deal? Like,
how do they figure out that as far as they
can make a production and announce the schedule at a location,
because they have figured out the art of setting benchmark
moments throughout the course of the year that have nothing
to do with the actual regular season as far as
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games go, and the NFL has just figured out a
way to continue to be in the conversation. They'll give
you about ten days off, then we've got the schedule release,
and then it feels like it slows down a little bit,
and then we get into training camp and next thing
you know, the season's here.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
The problem with the schedule release is everyone leaks it.
I mean with the NFL Draft, they're so protective of it,
and you really only could leak I mean either the
first pick, which I mean we all know is any
Bryce Young leading up to the draft, but then the
picks after that. You only have that window of time
where a peak or excuse me, a pick could be leaked.
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You don't have that opportunity with outside a fifteen minute window.
So people, even if they are being leaked onto social media,
they still are going to watch. There's trades that are
involved too, sometimes where nothing's happening for five seven minutes
of that pick, then there's a trade.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
So it's just a great reality TV.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I don't know how you create that sort of content
or that sort of.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Drama for a schedule release.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I mean, it's almost like you'd have to figure out
a way of doing it with all thirty two teams,
and it just seems rather complicated, Like I'm not sure
that's one that you're really gonna, you know, plant your
flag and say this is the next big thing.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know, they'll figure out something. Yeah, the NFL's had
figured out the art of coming up with the next
big thing as far as what they do. And to
your point on how it involves two sports, it involves
two interests because you get the NFL and you got
college football. Man like the number of fans who are
die hard college football fans who track where their players
(08:59):
from there school go, I think also is an element
to this.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
You know, what should happen? There should be a merger
between the National Football League and a created body within
the college football arena. What do you mean it should
be a merger? What kind of merger? Like some type
of a merger where the NFL is connected to college football.
(09:22):
That's what I think that's like to me. The NFL
is always looking to expand its brand and expand its borders.
And now that you have the NIL situation in college
and it's going to further have to develop into a
work force situation, it's going to have it's going to
happen to happen now. So the best I mean to me,
(09:46):
why not adopt a pro model in college football? And
if you're going to adopt a pro model in college football,
why not? And I'm loving the way I'm waiting to hear.
What kes the.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Difficulty with that? Because obviously this is you know, it's
been talked about and discussed, is is what do you
do with title nine?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Title nine's law, and because you know, there has to
be an equal amount of scholarship opportunities for women. You know,
you take away eighty five scholarships for football, that crushes
then the opportunity for women on the other side, because
now universities are no longer going to have eighty five
other scholarships for women to counter when football is the
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biggest revenue driving sport. So what happens is athletic departments,
you know, end up having to make really really difficult.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Tough decisions.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
And it's one of the reasons why I'm not a
fan necessarily of a pro model. I think there's probably
a hybrid model of something in between. But you know,
there's there's really no other sport from a collegiate standpoint
that has implemented that sort of model. And you could
say that, you know, well, what about you know, look
at other sports like hockey, baseball, et cetera. You know,
(10:57):
you you have college, you have a minor league system
that feeds up to the major league system, and it's
it's effective and it works. So I don't know that
there needs to be per se a pro model or
even a hybrid model at college. I think the USFL,
the XFL, these these spring leagues. I think that's the
(11:20):
next step is there needs to be more of like
an NFL europe type where I look, if there's a
kid who wants to go from high school or he
wants to go after a year or two in college,
so be it. Let him go to a minor league
or in the case of you know, college basketball, you
go to the G league.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Let them go that route.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
There's no point in them trying to entertain it a
college degree if.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's not meaningful to them.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
You know, they could try to come back around and
do that, but I personally feel like that's much better
suited because you know, the whole idea of NIL is
more of an issue right now for I think colleges
with how it's it's being implemented and utilized. And I'm
not saying it shouldn't exist, but I think the general
thought is, you know, I don't think an NFL team
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wants any piece of having to deal with more labor issues.
I think they'd rather say, let's have some other league
that we oversee for development and players who we feel
like are promising that you know, maybe they want to
work on, you know, getting their degree online and they
can focus on unplaying football and they don't have to
be a part of what you know, Penn State offers
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or Notre Dame offers as a school. Because that's the
other part of the equation is as much as you
want to create a system that allows players to be
compsated after nil, which that's what you have right now,
you also want to still maintain the integrity of the degree.
Like you don't want a kid just to be able
to transfer into Penn State for you know, a final
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year not even take the majority of his classes there
and get a Penn State degree. That's not fair not
only to the other athletes that have been to the
four years to get their degree from it, but it's
also not fair to every other student that it went
to Penn State and gets a prestigious degree.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It's a very complex issue because when you start, when
you start talking about like what the future looks or
it's going for football and basketball and everything else, you
have to take into account there's a general student body
that's impacted by some of those decisions. There's the female
athletes who are impacted by those decisions because of Title nine.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And how does that work?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
And that's why I think it's easier just to say, hey,
the NFL should really look at buying up these leagues,
the XFL, USFL. You make them competing like they are
the AFC NFC right at one point in time, and
there's your developmental league.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Be fun, man, they are helping the XFFL Rock versus
Joel Klatt. Come on, man, who's not into that interesting?
It's a main event battle there. Yeah. Do you think
that you think that they would actually ever consider that
the NFL they would look at it and go, let's
kind of try and keep this all in house and
(14:07):
just turn these NFL Europe.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The problem was is they didn't feel like they were
making money from it. And now the irony is they
go to London every year. It's like, hey, NFL, where
do you think all those young kids who are in
the stands now when you first started NFL Europe, where
do you think football was introduced to them? All those
international players, all the outreach, where did you think they
watched They saw it at one point in time when
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they were young and they were introduced to the game
of football through NFL Europe and now they're grown adults
who love the game. They go to London to watch,
to watch, you know, however, they watch or consume.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But that's how it started. And that's what's funny to me,
is like they don't want to take the time to.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Make this a global sport, Whereas I think that's one
of the biggest you know, next steps is if they
you know, invested back into the outreach of doing what
they did with NFL Europe with almost like a quasi
developed mental league. That high tide raised all boats. Executive
you know, TV executives were able to try out talent,
they were able to work on their cameraman, directors, producers, referees,
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got better training. You got players who got better training,
better coaching. You prepared minority coaches to be coordinators and
head coaches. It literally was the best case for everyone involved,
and they still they for whatever reason, don't see any
value in that moving forward.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I think there's a ton of value in it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, that would be a lot of fun.
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Speaker 2 (15:45):
So, the New York Jets have begun phase two of
their off season program and Aaron Rodgers was there. He
is there. It's May. He's practicing. He's shown up at
Knicks games as we talked about yesterday. He's showing up
at Rangers games as we talked about, even though the
Rangers just got eliminated in seven games. Aaron Rodgers is
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there making his presence felt for the New York Jets
and ready to take on this season as the starting
quarterback of the Jets. And in my mind right now,
despite what the odds tell you, that is your MVP
for this upcoming season. Aaron Rodgers call my shot right now?
Oh wow, that was bold?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Is that? Sixteen to one? Right now?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Sixteen to one?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I see you, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's a narrative driven award. And if the Jets go
from a seven win team.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
The media, would you imagine.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's going down Aaron Rodgers sixteen to one.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
He's the biggest name in sports if he has success, God,
the biggest games.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Last year, remember last year the way the media treated
the Jets, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Just fawning over them, and even Zack.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Wilson just all the and I got criticized for criticizing
the media for making up so much high before we
saw anything.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
This is actually justified though, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
This is a four time NFL MVP of Super Bowl champion,
a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You can hype this up like.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
This, It's okay to blow this out of proportion with
his expectations. One hundred percent is justified, like this is real.
And to that point, I just hope he gets the
benefit of the doubt and the same treatment that you
gave your your Jets quarterback last year around this time
heading into the season, they're not well. And that's my
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concern because you know, he's done some things and said
some things that doesn't necessarily align with them. And so
I think, if anything, this is just going to expose
more of the people that have an agenda as opposed
to who are just running about the Jets as a
sports freak.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Do you think that's still going to persist though next
year with the Jets?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That hope not.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I mean, if it does, then we got to take
we got to start questioning who's covering sports if they
can't let go of somebody's decision they make a couple
of years ago, and they're gonna let it linger and
carry on to a new team. And what because he's
aloof because he wants to be a little bit private,
and because he outsmart the media, now they're gonna hold
on to grudges all these years later. I mean, come on, man,
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for God's sake, sixteen to one, sixteen to one, you
can get it right now, courtesy of our friends of
draft wins this year in New York.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's a rap like he's he's like the man, he's
the man, like you gonna see him on more TV shows.
You gonna see him might make an appearance in a movie.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
He might get to actually host Jeopardy. He might get
the host Jeopardy. What he might deuced SNL. I'm just saying, Oh,
he'll do Saturday a life.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I'm just telling you. It's it's nothing. It's like it's
full steam a hit. It's like all systems go. If
he wins in New York this year, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Mean, he'd be what would it be fair to say
if he won a Super Bowl with the Jets, what
have You'd be bigger than Joe Namath.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Easily easily, let me tell you, historically speaking the NFL, NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Bruh, the merger.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
If he won a Super Bowl with the New York Jets,
he's easily man name a figure in New York sports
that he isn't bigger than outside of the Yankees. That's
what I would challenge you to say. I mean challenge
you on because you could go Eli Manning, you know,
but in reality, I mean you can always say, well,
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look at what look at what Aaron Rodgers did to
come in and win that one Super Bowl with the Jets.
I don't know that there's anyone LT. You know, maybe
LT from a football stand from a football standpoint in
New York, because I'm a larger figure if he goes
in and wins the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, you guys have played there. The Giants have a
grasp on the football market still.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
But the Jets, but the Jets have a very strong
contingency of fans as well.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's very strong, it's very pronounced. The Giants seem to
be more pop culture.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
The Jets are more like grit gritty, Yeah, yeah, like
more the blue collar version of it. It's like the
Giants are like the superstar like a listers, whereas it's
like the Jets are like I bang with the.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Jets, Like it's it's different.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's a different type of deal, but they're they're all
popular though.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Oh yeah, it's the new it's the number one media
market in the country. It's it doesn't matter if it's divided,
it's still it's powerful. So I think the one thing
he has going for him as opposed and name, at
least in regards to like the popularity that would come with.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
It is you're playing in the day and age of
social media.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So to like Levar's point, and really what we're talking
about is everything a single thing he wants to do,
could I mean, it's all gonna be amplified because of
the day and age in which you know, we're he's
playing and what he'd be bringing to the Jets, And
you're talking about there's older generations who remember a Joe
name of Super Bowl, but not younger generations, and they're
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gonna be the ones who are amplifying it because they
live in that world of social media and social you know,
Internet platforms and all that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's wild to think how long it's been since they've
been actually good. We'd like, like, they haven't had a
winning season since twenty fifteen, so it's been a significant amount.
And that year they didn't they didn't even go to
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I know you're like, oh, but that's just because we're
getting old. That's what happens when it's twenty twenty three
and you're like, no, that was like three Oh no,
that's going on almost eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Jeez. Yeah, you got to go all the way back
to last time. I mean, Rex Ryan, they went to
those back to back conference championship games. But and then
they're twenty ten, and there is the potential that I
think they're one if I have this correct, they're one
of the handful of teams that qualify for Hard Knocks.
I wonder if it's the best. I mean, there's so
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many storylines attached to it. But Rogers getting there with
the Jets. You throw him on Hard Knocks, like they
might actually break the Hard Knocks curse. They might actually
go out and have a decent season. And I hope
he stays healthy because the more that I think about this,
the more that I go, I don't understand. I don't
know how this doesn't work if he's healthy. I just
don't know how this doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They were good early on last year when they were healthy,
they were good, and you'd assume they're going to be
better this year. So they won games, they won games, well,
they won games, they won games, and then they fell off.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You know, I mean, we kind of go back to
the Cleveland game that was one of the most improbable
comebacks ever that was aided largely by Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Very true, very true. I mean a willing participant in
that game where the Cleveland Browns who who was it?
They gut? Was it? Why am I missing? Who's the
receiver that Joe Flacco found late in that game? Was
it Gear Will's? I think it was Garrett Wilson? And
then wide open and the crowd was like, what happened here? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
How did this? How did all this happen? Yeah? I
just they So there was that game, and there were
some other improbable spots that they were in. And then,
if you remember, Jets fans kept every time they won
a game that they shouldn't have won, Jets fans kept
tweeting at Brady Quinn letting them know you said, they
wouldn't do this. You said they weren't going to win
this game. You said they weren'ting to win that game
fell off a cliff. Did you get more heat for
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the CJ. Stroud stuff or for the Jets last year?
Was Zach Wilson bring? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
I mean the Jets thing obviously lasted a while, well
not that long, because they fell off like.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I thought they would.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
But and the other thing is I kind of played
into it because I did donate five thousand dollars. So
I donated a thousand bucks for every win they had
after the first two. Because so many people on social media,
Jets fans in particular, you know, thought that they were
like proving a point. I was like, all right, well
let's make some let's have some fun, let's make some
good about this. I'll donate a thousand bucks. And I
called on Jets fans to to help, you know, donate, participated,
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did nothing, which is exactly what you'd expect from Jets fans.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
They would be all.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Talk and actually no action behind that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It was just it was exactly what I thought. So again,
you know, they felt.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Hilarry.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
They fell off like I thought they would, and they
didn't do anything to kind of ride that gravy train
for a while, which we helped out a lot of
pretty cool, uh pretty cool charities and foundations. The whole
thing with the Stroud stuff ended when David Mulugeta, his agent,
who is behind the scenes, who put forth all of
that to take place, like once, he basically was like, Okay,
(24:46):
let's just put out the social media hit once you guys,
are you know?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Once you say your piece, and that's kind of it.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
So that that's how that kind of ended, because it
was largely just orchestrated by his agent to even prop
it up in the first place.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
That like, you can't look.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
At I don't know social media of any photos that
he posted out there with with anyone else who was
you know, Caples in.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
That Wait a second, are you trying to sit here
and make an erroneous statement on the air, Brady Coin
that David Mullaghetto was taking a picture with Ryan Clark,
who was heavily involved in the narrative, c J. Stroud,
Is that what you're trying to say here on the air.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Is what you get, especially as someone who said he
should go number two overall to the Houston, Texans. It
was odd that I was the person that that that
narrative was picked to point out.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's a little bit of weird, a little bit weird.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
What do you think that was about? What do you
think was there some other agenda going on? There was there?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Well, I will tell you as far as what I've
heard on from multiple different things that have gone on, Uh,
there's there's some there's some conversations about the draft boards
looked like and all that.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, we won't get into that world.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
But okay, that's interesting. By the way.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Uh, I'm cure, like, who's Jayalen Ramsey's agent?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Who is David muligat?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Oh, okay, are those the two people that came out
that that came out and hollered at you, Condrey Quandary Diggs.
Didn't he come out as well too? He's not really
what hold on a second, this is just so coincidental. See,
like this confirmed some real irony here. This is why
Levarn and I were saying during the break hashtag team
will look ato. Yeah, we were all about you know,
(26:23):
David Latta during the break. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And this hasn't this doesn't even have anything to do
with Q. I just don't like him. I don't and
you know I don't play no cut cards, you know,
Varr don't do the cut cards. I just don't like
the du cut cards. I don't like the way he moves,
you know. And I'm sure that's like totally if when
(26:50):
this gets out, there's going to be a hole because
I know a whole you know, you know he represents
Micah and all that different. You want to be clear,
that was LeVar that said that. LeVar said, we didn't
say it, so Brady and I say that people are
gonna take it the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Oh I'm a for all the smoke.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
And as much as I love rc RC, don't need
to ever poke that beer either, Like none of them.
I feel the way that I feel about certain things,
and I'm the OG. So call it what you want.
But you got to be ready to deal with like
you gotta be ready to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, I don't play that game. I don't either at all.
Get a problem with me and get me at lead
to lap on Twitter around, kiss my ass. What I
say it is two pros and a cup of joe.
Here though, On fox Portradio, Samari Arrington Brady Quinn Jonasnox
that you can listen to this show as always irritates you. Man.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah, he certain words and certain names, and it just
irritates the smile.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
He's one of them all smiles. Dude just irritates me, man,
just irritates.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Something about the look, just something about the social media,
something about like it's just something about when a dude
that you know isn't cool outside of the athletes that
make it about themselves. With those athletes, Like if you
look at his page, man, like you just see him
with so many like it's just Synroy.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's just so many selfies of him trying to look
hard with all these other like.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Dudes like like look, look like look that way by yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Nah, I can't though, you know That's what that's the point.
That's the point.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Like as many people as I know, you're not going
to see my social media flooded with all these dudes
standing around me, and I got my arms crossed, like
I'm that dude. Like, bro, you're an agent, you work
for them. You know what I hate about this whole
narrative of agents and athletes is that for some strange,
weird ass reason, athletes don't realize that agents are merely
(28:49):
their employee, right, Like that's like, like, why are you
becoming my best friend? Why are we why are why
are you acting like you're my brother or my uncle
or my father figure? Like, betch you work for me,
take this money and do what I tell you to do.
Like I'm getting drafted, so you're not as an agent.
(29:11):
The terminology of agent is to find something. If I'm
getting drafted, what are you finding? You're not finding anything,
so so be happy that you have this job and
work for me, like you work for me. I pay you,
you don't pay me two day to day. I just
(29:33):
don't like it, man, I don't like the agency game.
There's like two or three agents that I bang with
that I say, are good dudes. You could trust it.
Some agencies that I like that do credible work. But
for the most part I think they're pimps. Honestly, Okay,
I do.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I do hate the fact that we're like an agent
takes credit for a player's success. It's weird, man, That's
what I don't get it. We're dude, the player is
the one putting in the sacrifice. He's the one that
get to this point.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
The agent. It's just they're representing you. They should stay
behind the scenes. They don't need to be out in
the forefront. It's the player that deserves the credit for
everything they've done. You know. That's that's the thing that
I think stands out to me the most.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, you know, I just don't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Then they just they work so hard. They have this
mastery of separating these kids from their fend, these young
men from their families, man like people that are part
of their lives. Like, they have this systematic approach of
how they get to them and then they.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Just separate them.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I've watched it, like you know, and again I've mentored
a lot of dudes, and there are some dudes direct
that I'm talking about connected with Mula Getta Direct that
they just they just separate these dudes from their families.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Man, it's swack whacks man for real, Divide and conquer
its whack to men. Here we go, That's what I said.
Hashtag team Mullagetta. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. They'll coming up
next speaking to teams. I'm getting text messages right now.
I mean, like, because people know these agents be on
(31:04):
some whack s bro Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Here
we go, Yeah, I hear you, all right, we're done.
To realize we're.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
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Speaker 6 (31:21):
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
Let's make and.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
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Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yes, that different from in or out. It's kind of
just a different way to post the question, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, yeah, just all about the question. It's the art
of the questionnaire. There's a nuance to it, guys.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
One.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I've been wanting to ask you guys for a while now,
would you rather watch only football movies or only baseball movies?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Come on? Baseball?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Football?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
What baseball is better?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Which is one of your favorite movies of all time?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So just you have to back me into a corner
like that, a baseball They're going to go baseball. There's
just better movies like name it major League, Bull Durham,
Major League is number one? Kind of false dreams?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Moneyball? Are you not baret of a movie?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I wouldn't put money money Ball in the same level,
but moneyballs off.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Remember the title, Yeah, it kind of falls apart after
the Varsity Blue.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And I kind of remember the Varsity Program, Rudy's Fake
Any given Sunday the guy had an eyeball on the
shower floor or on the field, and Kimodo Dragon.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
You said Major League as your first movie. Hell, yes,
come on, man, it's not that good of a movie.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
It's not You said Major League as your leadoff movie.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes, you say, remember the Titans Oul Durham.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I'll give you necessary roughness to match yours. Necessary roughness
matches your your major league like eight man out their
spoof Calmon gambling. I don't know, man, it's easily football.
But good good for love.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Of the game. Bad news bears, bad news bears.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Okay, little giants. I mean we could do the giants.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, we could, little giants. I'll league it their own.
Damn right, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.
That one. Dang it, that's coming. Fellas.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Would you rather be giving a million dollars right now
or have all day to sink a hole in one
on one hundred and twenty two yards for twenty five
million dollars?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I take a whole one.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm taking a million. I wish you guys golfed m
I'll take a million because I don't want to make
people feel bad. I just want the bird in hand.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I got all twenty four hours, though, right, all twenty
four hours?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yep, give me the whole And how far is the
shot on the whole?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
One for me too?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Hell?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
No wind conditions or no?
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Uh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Half to day's windy half No, I mean what kind.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Of win we talk about like ten twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Miles talking about it cool knots. I mean it's gonna
change the approach shops, all right, what sober when it's windy,
but drinking when it's not?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
There you go it shrinking, not wendy done. Easy to
be twenty fours of shrinking that windy it'll hap.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think you'd rather be intoxicated than deal with mother nature,
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Mean for golf, yes, I think most people would agree.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I'm taking that million in running. Yeah, I am too.
Go to the bar. Why even no stress? You gotta
pay taxes on that million?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
All right, I'll buy you guys around after I hit it.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I mean, I'm your best friend, so you know, if
you hit it, you know, let me get two million.
Then that that was very mathematics for me. You didn't
feel anything.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
You were just shooting ball, you know, Kay, you didn't
feel it. You didn't feel that. Cherry Red Cherry Red.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here Tuesday? Huh, Hey, Coop,
Hey Eddie. Everyone just looking around waving hey.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
For How do you like the new studio? Yeah? I
like it.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's definitely a much better set up than the older one,
A little bit more spacious. I heard you more, you
can see more, yeah everything, Yeah, yeah. I grew up
a fan of Seymour yea for some reason.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I think he was my starter kit, to be honest,
if I'm recollecting.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Correct, I've heard that about you.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I mean that was my special I guess that's why
I became my specialty, you know, because he ruined me.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'll say this though, it is pretty cool to be, uh,
you know, doing a show in the presence of some
of the foundational pieces of the fel's popularity, you know,
a couple like the founding fathers of one of the
great NFL events, just you know, just feel like this.
You know, it's a real opportunity here to do this
show with you guys, because you see the ratings and
(01:13):
the number of people that watch the draft. How does
it feel to know that you guys paved the way
as a couple of first round draft picks for the
fifty four point four million people that tuned in to
watch the draft over the past the past few days.
Then how many people want yesterday? You think? Not that many?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, NBA, not that many, NHL combined, nothing, not even combined,
not even close to fifty four point four million. That's amazing. Yeah,
So how much do you think they generated? Knowing that
they would, you know, kind of project those numbers for viewing?
What do you think like the sales were for that, the.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
All revenue like sponsorship and all that stuff. I'd have
no idea. I wouldn't even know how to they did,
Okay that I'd be curious to know what they're trying
to look.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Up, like what ESPN pays for the rights of the draft.
I'd be curious.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, And I mean I would probably tell you the
story right there, and it was.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The joint broadcast because you had NFL network, He had ESPN.
Tell me if this is a crazy thought, because I
was actually thinking about this looking at the numbers, I
think that the draft, I think if you were to
ask people listening right now on Fox Sports Radio, you
have your choice. You can watch pick any of the
other three sport major sporting event. It could be the
(02:36):
World Series, it could be the NBA Finals, the Stanley
Cup Final. You could watch that, or the NFL Draft.
What would you pick? I think they choose the NFL Draft,
and it's a non sporting event, there's no actual game
attached to it. But I think majority of the people
would choose the NFL Draft. You're probably the other one.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You're probably I mean a boy a sound of the numbers,
I mean it sounds like you're not incorrect. I mean,
you're they were battling other other sporting events.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
If that's the case of Super Bowl is king and
the NFL Draft is second over those other sports. That
ought to show you just the hold that the NFL has.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, what was the National Championship ratings? Were they high
towards the end of the game. Towards the end of
the game, probably not that high.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
There are somewhere there, Some are pretty high up there.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So I mean, when we put NCAA championship like the
football Championship.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I think though that's what the glory of the draft is.
It's a combination of the intrigue from college football fans
and NFL fans, which is why it probably ends up
being Again, this is over a three day period, though
this wasn't like just Thursday.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They did a little over eleven million just for Thursday combined. Yeah,
that's a lot. Yeah, so they did it. Just sounds
like our numbers. It's a great part our show.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, shouts out to all are people out there that
eleven million or so, you know, give or take that.
Listen to us and tune in and support us.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Tell another person too, like let's double this up, get
to twenty two million.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, let's get there. Appreciate y'all, let's make it happen
to that. But I just I look at it and
then also look some of the buzz, some of the
drama that led into the draft, some of the storylines
you know, maybe you know that might have involved members
of this show, you know, and just their thoughts on
on answering a question about a certain quarterback that might
have gone number two overall of the Houston Texans. I
(04:32):
feel like those storylines helped some of the draft buzz
going into Oh No, I'm just saying, like you as
somebody who's a foundational piece to the NFL draft, a
former NFL draft pick, never a first round pick, both
of you guys, and who.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Also enjoys taking pictures with agents that are connected to
the players that are going in the draft.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But mind you, what do you shots out? Shots out
to you? Q? What are you talking about that?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I love how you enjoy the selfie picks, you know,
with your agent And so me and David, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It was c J.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Strouds.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
What a guy?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
What a guy? What an absolute.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
So I get caught up in the middle of him
trying to, you know, act like he's protecting his player,
and I'm like, well, I'm a fan of your players,
so it's kind of interesting that I get you get
put me in the crossfire.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Just an absolute d bag.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I mean, does does anybody take more selfies with their
players than that dude?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Geez or the media that helps defend his dudes. Hey,
So here's the research on ESPN. So they're the rights
to the draft are wrapped up in what they pay
uh for the NFL as well, which what got kind
of talked about when they when they redid the licensing rights,
uh for the NFL was the Monday Night Football kind
(05:49):
of flexibility They talked about potentially maybe some some flex
scheduling for what they get.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
From Monday Football.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
They put a ton of money into it, but they
also get the draft as part of it. So if
you think about it from ESPN standpoint, it makes a
lot of sense. They obviously have invested heavily in college football,
in particular the SEC. And who has the most players
drafted this year? The SEC, I think was tied with
the Big Ten, but it's had the most for the
past seventeen years.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So it really makes sense.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
From being someone who focuses a lot on college football
to take in to the draft and then also have
the rights to the NFL as well.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
What a bonanza man the NFL. And look, I don't
know if it was Roger Goodell who came up with
the idea, let's start moving this thing around. If it
was him that was really pushing it, he gets a
lot of criticism. Whoever's idea was to go from let's
move it from New York, go to Chicago for a
couple of years, go to Philly. I believe they went
to Dallas, Nashville, now Kansas City. It's turned into one
(06:50):
of those Yeah, we want the draft as well too.
I can't like, I've never been to Kansas City, but
I would imagine some of the local establishments, some of
the local businesses there. Paul made a killing. Had to um.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, so just to see it for you, shouts out
the KC and the barbecue.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, just to see the NFL tour? Now, Now, how
do they figure out a way to make the NFL
schedule release kind of as big of a deal? Like,
how do they figure out that as far as they
can make a production and announce the schedule at a location,
because they have figured out the art of setting benchmark
moments throughout the course of the year that have nothing
to do with the actual regular season as far as
(07:27):
games go, and the NFL has just figured out a
way to continue to be in the conversation. They'll give
you about ten days off, then we've got the schedule release,
and then it feels like it slows down a little bit,
and then we get into training camp and next thing
you know, the season's here.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
The problem with the schedule release is everyone leaks it.
I mean with the NFL Draft, they're so protective of it,
and you really only could leak I mean either the
first pick, which I mean we all know is any
Bryce Young leading up to the draft, but then the
picks after that. You only have that window of time
where a peak or excuse me, a pick could be leaked.
(08:03):
You don't have that opportunity with outside a fifteen minute window.
So people, even if they are being leaked onto social media,
they still are going to watch. There's trades that are
involved too, sometimes where nothing's happening for five seven minutes
of that pick, then there's a trade.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
So it's just a great reality TV.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I don't know how you create that sort of content
or that sort of.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Drama for a schedule release.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I mean, it's almost like you'd have to figure out
a way of doing it with all thirty two teams,
and it just seems rather complicated, Like I'm not sure
that's one that you're really gonna, you know, plant your
flag and say this is the next big thing.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know, they'll figure out something. Yeah, the NFL's had
figured out the art of coming up with the next
big thing as far as what they do. And to
your point on how it involves two sports, it involves
two interests because you get the NFL and you got
college football. Man like the number of fans who are
die hard college football fans who track where their players
(08:59):
from there school go, I think also is an element
to this.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
You know, what should happen? There should be a merger
between the National Football League and a created body within
the college football arena. What do you mean it should
be a merger? What kind of merger? Like some type
of a merger where the NFL is connected to college football.
(09:22):
That's what I think that's like to me. The NFL
is always looking to expand its brand and expand its borders.
And now that you have the NIL situation in college
and it's going to further have to develop into a
work force situation, it's going to have it's going to
happen to happen now. So the best I mean to me,
(09:46):
why not adopt a pro model in college football? And
if you're going to adopt a pro model in college football,
why not? And I'm loving the way I'm waiting to hear.
What kes the.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Difficulty with that? Because obviously this is you know, it's
been talked about and discussed, is is what do you
do with title nine?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Title nine's law, and because you know, there has to
be an equal amount of scholarship opportunities for women. You know,
you take away eighty five scholarships for football, that crushes
then the opportunity for women on the other side, because
now universities are no longer going to have eighty five
other scholarships for women to counter when football is the
(10:26):
biggest revenue driving sport. So what happens is athletic departments,
you know, end up having to make really really difficult.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Tough decisions.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
And it's one of the reasons why I'm not a
fan necessarily of a pro model. I think there's probably
a hybrid model of something in between. But you know,
there's there's really no other sport from a collegiate standpoint
that has implemented that sort of model. And you could
say that, you know, well, what about you know, look
at other sports like hockey, baseball, et cetera. You know,
(10:57):
you you have college, you have a minor league system
that feeds up to the major league system, and it's
it's effective and it works. So I don't know that
there needs to be per se a pro model or
even a hybrid model at college. I think the USFL,
the XFL, these these spring leagues. I think that's the
(11:20):
next step is there needs to be more of like
an NFL europe type where I look, if there's a
kid who wants to go from high school or he
wants to go after a year or two in college,
so be it. Let him go to a minor league
or in the case of you know, college basketball, you
go to the G league.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Let them go that route.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
There's no point in them trying to entertain it a
college degree if.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's not meaningful to them.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
You know, they could try to come back around and
do that, but I personally feel like that's much better
suited because you know, the whole idea of NIL is
more of an issue right now for I think colleges
with how it's it's being implemented and utilized. And I'm
not saying it shouldn't exist, but I think the general
thought is, you know, I don't think an NFL team
(12:07):
wants any piece of having to deal with more labor issues.
I think they'd rather say, let's have some other league
that we oversee for development and players who we feel
like are promising that you know, maybe they want to
work on, you know, getting their degree online and they
can focus on unplaying football and they don't have to
be a part of what you know, Penn State offers
(12:29):
or Notre Dame offers as a school. Because that's the
other part of the equation is as much as you
want to create a system that allows players to be
compsated after nil, which that's what you have right now,
you also want to still maintain the integrity of the degree.
Like you don't want a kid just to be able
to transfer into Penn State for you know, a final
(12:53):
year not even take the majority of his classes there
and get a Penn State degree. That's not fair not
only to the other athletes that have been to the
four years to get their degree from it, but it's
also not fair to every other student that it went
to Penn State and gets a prestigious degree.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It's a very complex issue because when you start, when
you start talking about like what the future looks or
it's going for football and basketball and everything else, you
have to take into account there's a general student body
that's impacted by some of those decisions. There's the female
athletes who are impacted by those decisions because of Title nine.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And how does that work?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
And that's why I think it's easier just to say, hey,
the NFL should really look at buying up these leagues,
the XFL, USFL. You make them competing like they are
the AFC NFC right at one point in time, and
there's your developmental league.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Be fun, man, they are helping the XFFL Rock versus
Joel Klatt. Come on, man, who's not into that interesting?
It's a main event battle there. Yeah. Do you think
that you think that they would actually ever consider that
the NFL they would look at it and go, let's
kind of try and keep this all in house and
(14:07):
just turn these NFL Europe.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The problem was is they didn't feel like they were
making money from it. And now the irony is they
go to London every year. It's like, hey, NFL, where
do you think all those young kids who are in
the stands now when you first started NFL Europe, where
do you think football was introduced to them? All those
international players, all the outreach, where did you think they
watched They saw it at one point in time when
(14:31):
they were young and they were introduced to the game
of football through NFL Europe and now they're grown adults
who love the game. They go to London to watch,
to watch, you know, however, they watch or consume.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But that's how it started. And that's what's funny to me,
is like they don't want to take the time to.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Make this a global sport, Whereas I think that's one
of the biggest you know, next steps is if they
you know, invested back into the outreach of doing what
they did with NFL Europe with almost like a quasi
developed mental league. That high tide raised all boats. Executive
you know, TV executives were able to try out talent,
they were able to work on their cameraman, directors, producers, referees,
(15:11):
got better training. You got players who got better training,
better coaching. You prepared minority coaches to be coordinators and
head coaches. It literally was the best case for everyone involved,
and they still they for whatever reason, don't see any
value in that moving forward.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I think there's a ton of value in it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, that would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
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Speaker 2 (15:45):
So, the New York Jets have begun phase two of
their off season program and Aaron Rodgers was there. He
is there. It's May. He's practicing. He's shown up at
Knicks games as we talked about yesterday. He's showing up
at Rangers games as we talked about, even though the
Rangers just got eliminated in seven games. Aaron Rodgers is
(16:06):
there making his presence felt for the New York Jets
and ready to take on this season as the starting
quarterback of the Jets. And in my mind right now,
despite what the odds tell you, that is your MVP
for this upcoming season. Aaron Rodgers call my shot right now?
Oh wow, that was bold?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Is that? Sixteen to one? Right now?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Sixteen to one?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I see you, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's a narrative driven award. And if the Jets go
from a seven win team.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
The media, would you imagine.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's going down Aaron Rodgers sixteen to one.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
He's the biggest name in sports if he has success, God,
the biggest games.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Last year, remember last year the way the media treated
the Jets, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Just fawning over them, and even Zack.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Wilson just all the and I got criticized for criticizing
the media for making up so much high before we
saw anything.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
This is actually justified though, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
This is a four time NFL MVP of Super Bowl champion,
a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You can hype this up like.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
This, It's okay to blow this out of proportion with
his expectations. One hundred percent is justified, like this is real.
And to that point, I just hope he gets the
benefit of the doubt and the same treatment that you
gave your your Jets quarterback last year around this time
heading into the season, they're not well. And that's my
(17:33):
concern because you know, he's done some things and said
some things that doesn't necessarily align with them. And so
I think, if anything, this is just going to expose
more of the people that have an agenda as opposed
to who are just running about the Jets as a
sports freak.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Do you think that's still going to persist though next
year with the Jets?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That hope not.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I mean, if it does, then we got to take
we got to start questioning who's covering sports if they
can't let go of somebody's decision they make a couple
of years ago, and they're gonna let it linger and
carry on to a new team. And what because he's
aloof because he wants to be a little bit private,
and because he outsmart the media, now they're gonna hold
on to grudges all these years later. I mean, come on, man,
(18:14):
for God's sake, sixteen to one, sixteen to one, you
can get it right now, courtesy of our friends of
draft wins this year in New York.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's a rap like he's he's like the man, he's
the man, like you gonna see him on more TV shows.
You gonna see him might make an appearance in a movie.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
He might get to actually host Jeopardy. He might get
the host Jeopardy. What he might deuced SNL. I'm just saying, Oh,
he'll do Saturday a life.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I'm just telling you. It's it's nothing. It's like it's
full steam a hit. It's like all systems go. If
he wins in New York this year, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Mean, he'd be what would it be fair to say
if he won a Super Bowl with the Jets, what
have You'd be bigger than Joe Namath.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Easily easily, let me tell you, historically speaking the NFL, NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Bruh, the merger.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
If he won a Super Bowl with the New York Jets,
he's easily man name a figure in New York sports
that he isn't bigger than outside of the Yankees. That's
what I would challenge you to say. I mean challenge
you on because you could go Eli Manning, you know,
but in reality, I mean you can always say, well,
(19:30):
look at what look at what Aaron Rodgers did to
come in and win that one Super Bowl with the Jets.
I don't know that there's anyone LT. You know, maybe
LT from a football stand from a football standpoint in
New York, because I'm a larger figure if he goes
in and wins the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, you guys have played there. The Giants have a
grasp on the football market still.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
But the Jets, but the Jets have a very strong
contingency of fans as well.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's very strong, it's very pronounced. The Giants seem to
be more pop culture.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
The Jets are more like grit gritty, Yeah, yeah, like
more the blue collar version of it. It's like the
Giants are like the superstar like a listers, whereas it's
like the Jets are like I bang with the.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Jets, Like it's it's different.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's a different type of deal, but they're they're all
popular though.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Oh yeah, it's the new it's the number one media
market in the country. It's it doesn't matter if it's divided,
it's still it's powerful. So I think the one thing
he has going for him as opposed and name, at
least in regards to like the popularity that would come with.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
It is you're playing in the day and age of
social media.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So to like Levar's point, and really what we're talking
about is everything a single thing he wants to do,
could I mean, it's all gonna be amplified because of
the day and age in which you know, we're he's
playing and what he'd be bringing to the Jets, And
you're talking about there's older generations who remember a Joe
name of Super Bowl, but not younger generations, and they're
(21:06):
gonna be the ones who are amplifying it because they
live in that world of social media and social you know,
Internet platforms and all that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's wild to think how long it's been since they've
been actually good. We'd like, like, they haven't had a
winning season since twenty fifteen, so it's been a significant amount.
And that year they didn't they didn't even go to
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I know you're like, oh, but that's just because we're
getting old. That's what happens when it's twenty twenty three
and you're like, no, that was like three Oh no,
that's going on almost eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Jeez. Yeah, you got to go all the way back
to last time. I mean, Rex Ryan, they went to
those back to back conference championship games. But and then
they're twenty ten, and there is the potential that I
think they're one if I have this correct, they're one
of the handful of teams that qualify for Hard Knocks.
I wonder if it's the best. I mean, there's so
(22:02):
many storylines attached to it. But Rogers getting there with
the Jets. You throw him on Hard Knocks, like they
might actually break the Hard Knocks curse. They might actually
go out and have a decent season. And I hope
he stays healthy because the more that I think about this,
the more that I go, I don't understand. I don't
know how this doesn't work if he's healthy. I just
don't know how this doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They were good early on last year when they were healthy,
they were good, and you'd assume they're going to be
better this year. So they won games, they won games, well,
they won games, they won games, and then they fell off.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You know, I mean, we kind of go back to
the Cleveland game that was one of the most improbable
comebacks ever that was aided largely by Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Very true, very true. I mean a willing participant in
that game where the Cleveland Browns who who was it?
They gut? Was it? Why am I missing? Who's the
receiver that Joe Flacco found late in that game? Was
it Gear Will's? I think it was Garrett Wilson? And
then wide open and the crowd was like, what happened here? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
How did this? How did all this happen? Yeah? I
just they So there was that game, and there were
some other improbable spots that they were in. And then,
if you remember, Jets fans kept every time they won
a game that they shouldn't have won, Jets fans kept
tweeting at Brady Quinn letting them know you said, they
wouldn't do this. You said they weren't going to win
this game. You said they weren'ting to win that game
fell off a cliff. Did you get more heat for
(23:29):
the CJ. Stroud stuff or for the Jets last year?
Was Zach Wilson bring? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
I mean the Jets thing obviously lasted a while, well
not that long, because they fell off like.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I thought they would.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
But and the other thing is I kind of played
into it because I did donate five thousand dollars. So
I donated a thousand bucks for every win they had
after the first two. Because so many people on social media,
Jets fans in particular, you know, thought that they were
like proving a point. I was like, all right, well
let's make some let's have some fun, let's make some
good about this. I'll donate a thousand bucks. And I
called on Jets fans to to help, you know, donate, participated,
(24:04):
did nothing, which is exactly what you'd expect from Jets fans.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
They would be all.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Talk and actually no action behind that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It was just it was exactly what I thought. So again,
you know, they felt.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Hilarry.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
They fell off like I thought they would, and they
didn't do anything to kind of ride that gravy train
for a while, which we helped out a lot of
pretty cool, uh pretty cool charities and foundations. The whole
thing with the Stroud stuff ended when David Mulugeta, his agent,
who is behind the scenes, who put forth all of
that to take place, like once, he basically was like, Okay,
(24:46):
let's just put out the social media hit once you guys,
are you know?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Once you say your piece, and that's kind of it.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
So that that's how that kind of ended, because it
was largely just orchestrated by his agent to even prop
it up in the first place.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
That like, you can't look.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
At I don't know social media of any photos that
he posted out there with with anyone else who was
you know, Caples in.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
That Wait a second, are you trying to sit here
and make an erroneous statement on the air, Brady Coin
that David Mullaghetto was taking a picture with Ryan Clark,
who was heavily involved in the narrative, c J. Stroud,
Is that what you're trying to say here on the air.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Is what you get, especially as someone who said he
should go number two overall to the Houston, Texans. It
was odd that I was the person that that that
narrative was picked to point out.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
It's a little bit of weird, a little bit weird.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
What do you think that was about? What do you
think was there some other agenda going on? There was there?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Well, I will tell you as far as what I've
heard on from multiple different things that have gone on, Uh,
there's there's some there's some conversations about the draft boards
looked like and all that.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, we won't get into that world.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
But okay, that's interesting. By the way.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Uh, I'm cure, like, who's Jayalen Ramsey's agent?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Who is David muligat?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Oh, okay, are those the two people that came out
that that came out and hollered at you, Condrey Quandary Diggs.
Didn't he come out as well too? He's not really
what hold on a second, this is just so coincidental. See,
like this confirmed some real irony here. This is why
Levarn and I were saying during the break hashtag team
will look ato. Yeah, we were all about you know,
(26:23):
David Latta during the break. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And this hasn't this doesn't even have anything to do
with Q. I just don't like him. I don't and
you know I don't play no cut cards, you know,
Varr don't do the cut cards. I just don't like
the du cut cards. I don't like the way he moves,
you know. And I'm sure that's like totally if when
(26:50):
this gets out, there's going to be a hole because
I know a whole you know, you know he represents
Micah and all that different. You want to be clear,
that was LeVar that said that. LeVar said, we didn't
say it, so Brady and I say that people are
gonna take it the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Oh I'm a for all the smoke.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
And as much as I love rc RC, don't need
to ever poke that beer either, Like none of them.
I feel the way that I feel about certain things,
and I'm the OG. So call it what you want.
But you got to be ready to deal with like
you gotta be ready to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, I don't play that game. I don't either at all.
Get a problem with me and get me at lead
to lap on Twitter around, kiss my ass. What I
say it is two pros and a cup of joe.
Here though, On fox Portradio, Samari Arrington Brady Quinn Jonasnox
that you can listen to this show as always irritates you. Man.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah, he certain words and certain names, and it just
irritates the smile.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
He's one of them all smiles. Dude just irritates me, man,
just irritates.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Something about the look, just something about the social media,
something about like it's just something about when a dude
that you know isn't cool outside of the athletes that
make it about themselves. With those athletes, Like if you
look at his page, man, like you just see him
with so many like it's just Synroy.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's just so many selfies of him trying to look
hard with all these other like.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Dudes like like look, look like look that way by yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Nah, I can't though, you know That's what that's the point.
That's the point.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Like as many people as I know, you're not going
to see my social media flooded with all these dudes
standing around me, and I got my arms crossed, like
I'm that dude. Like, bro, you're an agent, you work
for them. You know what I hate about this whole
narrative of agents and athletes is that for some strange,
weird ass reason, athletes don't realize that agents are merely
(28:49):
their employee, right, Like that's like, like, why are you
becoming my best friend? Why are we why are why
are you acting like you're my brother or my uncle
or my father figure? Like, betch you work for me,
take this money and do what I tell you to do.
Like I'm getting drafted, so you're not as an agent.
(29:11):
The terminology of agent is to find something. If I'm
getting drafted, what are you finding? You're not finding anything,
so so be happy that you have this job and
work for me, like you work for me. I pay you,
you don't pay me two day to day. I just
(29:33):
don't like it, man, I don't like the agency game.
There's like two or three agents that I bang with
that I say, are good dudes. You could trust it.
Some agencies that I like that do credible work. But
for the most part I think they're pimps. Honestly, Okay,
I do.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I do hate the fact that we're like an agent
takes credit for a player's success. It's weird, man, That's
what I don't get it. We're dude, the player is
the one putting in the sacrifice. He's the one that
get to this point.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
The agent. It's just they're representing you. They should stay
behind the scenes. They don't need to be out in
the forefront. It's the player that deserves the credit for
everything they've done. You know. That's that's the thing that
I think stands out to me the most.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, you know, I just don't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Then they just they work so hard. They have this
mastery of separating these kids from their fend, these young
men from their families, man like people that are part
of their lives. Like, they have this systematic approach of
how they get to them and then they.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Just separate them.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I've watched it, like you know, and again I've mentored
a lot of dudes, and there are some dudes direct
that I'm talking about connected with Mula Getta Direct that
they just they just separate these dudes from their families.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Man, it's swack whacks man for real, Divide and conquer
its whack to men. Here we go, That's what I said.
Hashtag team Mullagetta. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. They'll coming up
next speaking to teams. I'm getting text messages right now.
I mean, like, because people know these agents be on
(31:04):
some whack s bro Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Here
we go, Yeah, I hear you, all right, we're done.
To realize we're.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
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Speaker 6 (31:21):
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
Let's make and.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
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Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yes, that different from in or out. It's kind of
just a different way to post the question, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, yeah, just all about the question. It's the art
of the questionnaire. There's a nuance to it, guys.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
One.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I've been wanting to ask you guys for a while now,
would you rather watch only football movies or only baseball movies?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Come on? Baseball?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Football?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
What baseball is better?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Which is one of your favorite movies of all time?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So just you have to back me into a corner
like that, a baseball They're going to go baseball. There's
just better movies like name it major League, Bull Durham,
Major League is number one? Kind of false dreams?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Moneyball? Are you not baret of a movie?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I wouldn't put money money Ball in the same level,
but moneyballs off.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Remember the title, Yeah, it kind of falls apart after
the Varsity Blue.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And I kind of remember the Varsity Program, Rudy's Fake
Any given Sunday the guy had an eyeball on the
shower floor or on the field, and Kimodo Dragon.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
You said Major League as your first movie. Hell, yes,
come on, man, it's not that good of a movie.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
It's not You said Major League as your leadoff movie.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes, you say, remember the Titans Oul Durham.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I'll give you necessary roughness to match yours. Necessary roughness
matches your your major league like eight man out their
spoof Calmon gambling. I don't know, man, it's easily football.
But good good for love.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Of the game. Bad news bears, bad news bears.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Okay, little giants. I mean we could do the giants.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, we could, little giants. I'll league it their own.
Damn right, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.
That one. Dang it, that's coming. Fellas.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Would you rather be giving a million dollars right now
or have all day to sink a hole in one
on one hundred and twenty two yards for twenty five
million dollars?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I take a whole one.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm taking a million. I wish you guys golfed m
I'll take a million because I don't want to make
people feel bad. I just want the bird in hand.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I got all twenty four hours, though, right, all twenty
four hours?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yep, give me the whole And how far is the
shot on the whole?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
One for me too?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Hell?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
No wind conditions or no?
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Uh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Half to day's windy half No, I mean what kind.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Of win we talk about like ten twenty.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Miles talking about it cool knots. I mean it's gonna
change the approach shops, all right, what sober when it's windy,
but drinking when it's not?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
There you go it shrinking, not wendy done. Easy to
be twenty fours of shrinking that windy it'll hap.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think you'd rather be intoxicated than deal with mother nature,
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Mean for golf, yes, I think most people would agree.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I'm taking that million in running. Yeah, I am too.
Go to the bar. Why even no stress? You gotta
pay taxes on that million?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
All right, I'll buy you guys around after I hit it.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I mean, I'm your best friend, so you know, if
you hit it, you know, let me get two million.
Then that that was very mathematics for me. You didn't
feel anything.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
You were just shooting ball, you know, Kay, you didn't
feel it. You didn't feel that. Cherry Red Cherry Red.
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